In Maldives really one of the main points of going there is that you'll just be alone
#Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)
rustic charm
trim harbor
All so expensihe though, idk if I wanna shell out so much money
trim harbor
In Maldives really one of the main points of going there is that you'll just be ...
That kinda bothers ne
You are quite isolated and once youve walked around twice the island
Then what
Pay a fortune for each activity
rustic charm
Well I think the main point is you either buy a lot of stuff so they earn a lot of money, or you just sit at your villa, sleep, relax, drink, and as a result you don't cost them too much money and since you already paid a lot for the hotel, they still earn a lot from you
But yeah, if you don't want something that expensive, look into Bali. Especially if you can get a decent deal on flights, the rest won't be too bad
Also I really don't remember if it was expensive or not, but I did like Tanzania. We flew in to Zanzibar, stayed some time there. The beaches were quite nice. Then we flew over to mainland Tanzania, close to Kilimanjaro, and went for safari
Sri Lanka and Goa are not too bad either, but obviously no safaris there
rustic charm
Okay this is sad, looks like Aeroflot didn't fly A310s to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
Why can't we have an Il-96 😭
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What did I come back to 😭
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Letters are scary
Aaaaaa
I love that I've seen a kc-135 and a Jordan air force C-130 before an A330
trim harbor
But yeah, if you don't want something that expensive, look into Bali. Especially...
Just gonna scoot my way there
rustic charm
Scoot is definitely an option
rustic charm
Alternatively AirAsia/LionAir
Although out of the 2 I liked AirAsia more (but LionAir has much better departure times out of Bangkok)
trim harbor
I would never fly scoot fr
I usually prefer legacy carriers as well
Because miles and points
rustic charm
I mean, we all prefer them don't we 
trim harbor
Ehh, I have some friends who unironically love EJU/RYR and would pick em ocer legacy all day
trim harbor
Also I really don't remember if it was expensive or not, but I did like Tanzania...
Zanzibar was recommended to me, I was also looking into it
runic hare
Ehh, I have some friends who unironically love EJU/RYR and would pick em ocer le...
Can’t argue with £15 flight
trim harbor
It was a close one
Jesus
They boarded us and forgot to unload the bags from the previous flight
Created a huge delay
We were the last plane to takeoff from FRA
They announced that if we wouldve waited 5 min longer they would‘ve not given us clearance
Christ
hollow oracle
something is still not right with the levelup 737
my VR was 143, and i rotated late at 148 kts, but i was still full yoke back to get it to climb out
rustic charm
They announced that if we wouldve waited 5 min longer they would‘ve not given us...
Ngl such strict curfew is something I don't really understand about European airports
hollow oracle
the MCDU is still showing the wrong fuel too, it says i have 31.1 FOB, even though the EFB and fuel display are correct at 25
as far as i know, rotating on takeoff in a 737 should be a gentle nose back input, but every single takeoff in the levelup 737 has been full yoke back input
hollow oracle
yeah, i tried it with the default livery, same issues
hollow oracle
same weights, same weather, same runway, but in the zibo 737, significantly more accurate
i did rotate a little too hard because i was honestly expecting the same issue, but other than that, it climbs out easy, you can even see around 170kts when i drop the pressure off the yoke and it continues climbing
reef isle
same weights, same weather, same runway, but in the zibo 737, significantly more...
Yes the Zibo has a significantly better flight model
hollow oracle
the levelup has always worked at the very least for me though
reef isle
Yeah, it works
But the flight model is not nearly as good throughout the whole flight
I've heard that most of the pitch and power settings are wrong as well
hollow oracle
takeoff in the levelup is completely wrong for me though, borderline unusable
reef isle
Yeah it has been wrong for me as well
Maybe there are some weight/speed combinations that make that highlight that more
That's why whenever I'm flying the -800 I'd always rather fly the Zibo
hollow oracle
is the -700 or -900 that bad?
reef isle
No, it's flyable and enjoyable still, but you can tell the flight models isn't nearly as good 😅
Being Xplane it still has a good feel to it, but it's definitely a bit weird
hollow oracle
i'm tired enough of the levelup that i uninstalled it, and i really dont even want to test the -700 or -900, so ill take your word for it and just assume that the takeoff is as bad as the -800
maybe once they release the flight model update eventually i'll come back to it
it really sucks though, visually it looks as good as the PMDG 737s, but the flight model just isnt there
reef isle
That's fair enough. Flight model is good enough for me - I don't really care too much about the 737NG anyway
hollow oracle
full yoke back for takeoff on a 737 is just dumb, even if it does fly, it's enough of an annoyance to turn me off, especially when the zibo -800 exists, and i have the -700 and -900 in MSFS already
reef isle
Oh if you have the PMDG then absolutely
For me full back stick on takeoff is not annoying enough to pay 150 odd euros 😄
hollow oracle
Meh, I had the PMDG ones long before I got into xplane, so I had it the other way around
I definitely prefer xplane first over any other sim though, the default airports are so much better that it’s not even a competition
trim harbor
@runic hare aye
where can i find award flights to use w avios?
any specific website?
trim harbor
ya
runic hare
Should just be able to do it through the BA website
If your logged into your avios account
rustic charm
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tired pond
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Oh funny thing, for some reason this thing didn't have any STARs and approaches for UUDD
So I'm about to just do it all in heading mode
rustic charm
Okay
This is weird
This is the most confusing airport I've flown into lol
Best part is, I seemingly won't have ILS, so going visual
rustic charm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHY
WHY DO I HAVE THE TERRAIN ISSUES
EVERY SINGLE AIRPORT WHERE I FLY TO
I can only assume now that Domodedovo clashes with Moscow Landmarks, so if that doesn't fix it, idk
hollow oracle
wtf
just did a takeoff in the zibo 737 and had the same issue, full yoke back, and i didnt lift off until over 15 knots over rotate speed, heavy controls and i was overspeeding quite rapidly because of the speeds being crazy
could i be using too high of a flaps setting???
i was using flaps 15, and i didnt takeoff until about 3/4 through the 12000ft runway
dusty sky
My guy
At the pilot training centre over here for 737's the person there told me to use flaps 5
5
hollow oracle
that's most likely not my issue though, i had no issue accelerating, the issue is on takeoff and if anything lower flaps would only give it more lift
actually its kind of funny, because a higher flap setting would have made takeoff impossible, at 5 i would have definitely overrun the runway because of a lack of lift from what i've seen
i'm using the EFB for loading the aircraft, and the trim value that the aircraft gives me, but maybe something is wrong in there?
wtf
the default XP12 W&B menu says my CG is 29.4%
i dont know if that's calculated differently from the EFB or something, but that is definitely considerably different from the 21% that the EFB gives me
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I feel like it's time for a reinstallation
hollow oracle
already tried that several times
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If anything the v speeds it gives me are too high on the 737
I can takeoff at like 130 knots
hollow oracle
At flaps 5? What weight and fuel?
rustic charm
# 5
To be fair the takeoff range on the 737 is I think from 5 to 15
In fact 2 might be in takeoff range as well
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At flaps 5? What weight and fuel?
Idk like 9 tons of fuel and 14 tons of payload, metric
Apparently it's from 2-25
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25 is a bit excessive from people's sayings
rustic charm
Yeah 25 is not gonna be used much
You just don't need it
Like technically 727s could and would take off with flaps 40, but generally you didn't do it simply because you didn't have to
Only a few operators did that
And those were usually Aerosucre kind of operators
Flying to tiny fields in the middle of nowhere with overloaded planes
hollow oracle
i have to be doing something wrong with the 737s
do you have to mess with the XP12 W&B menu or something? does it have to be completely 0 before you load the aircraft? am i loading it wrong by using the EFB?
hollow oracle
i'm curious, very often the MCDU will show a wrong, higher fuel number in the INIT PERF page than what's actually loaded in the aircraft
i wonder if its using that fuel number to calculate takeoff performance? a TOW with double the fuel the aircraft actually has on board could be causing issues similar to this, especially with trim calculation
rustic charm
Well, if the FMC shows you wrong weight, that's very bad
hollow oracle
it only shows wrong sensed fuel weight, everything else is normal becuase it's manually inputted
rustic charm
Is the gross weight correct too?
Cause that's what is used for takeoff calculations
But quite often planes will automatically determine it based on the ZFW you input plus the FOB
And if the FOB is wrong, then gross weight is also gonna be wrong
hollow oracle
here's a screenshot from the levelup, though i'm getting an identical issue in the zibo too, gauges show 25.0 lbs loaded, EFB is set to 25.0 lbs loaded, but the MCDU is showing 31.1 lbs sensed loaded
and yeah, its using the incorrect fuel number for GW calculation
hollow oracle
a whole 6100lbs above what's actually loaded
though i think on the latest zibo flight i tried, it was almost double what was actually loaded
rustic charm
Emirates almost wrote off an A340 in Australia on a takeoff like that
Except in their case the data in the plane was much lower than the actual weights
hollow oracle
the only issue is that I don't know how to fix it, because you can't manually override the fuel number in the MCDU, and the fuel gauges and EFB are showing the right weights, i havent checked the W&B menu in that condition though
rustic charm
Try to edit it through the sim's weight & balance tools
hollow oracle
i'm not sure how fuel would effect TOW CG though, i guess it would push it forward, especially if its sensing a massive amount of fuel in the center tank that isnt there
rustic charm
Yeah, the centre of gravity will most likely be affected too
hollow oracle
more forward, less nose up trim, harder to rotate on takeoff
at least that's where my mind goes
reef isle
So that's gonna cause issues
Is it?
That's not used for anything take off related I don't think
Unless you use the FMS numbers for V-Speeds
rustic charm
Well tbf both of those aren't fun, but they're not critical
Having 1 pack out would affect the maximum allowed cruise altitude though, I think it's 17k?
At least in the 737 it is I think
trim harbor
Well tbf both of those aren't fun, but they're not critical
i'd divert with an IDG2 failure though
but atp diverting would've taken equally as long as just descending
trim harbor
Having 1 pack out would affect the maximum allowed cruise altitude though, I thi...
PACK1 failure wasnt that bad and not necessarily diversion needed, psi is fine, it's just gonna take longer iirc
sucks if idg1 flops tho
then we're on that RAT level that i dont wanna reach
rustic charm
Fair, tbh I just usually fly for as long as the plane is capable of flying
Like, I think the only time I decided to divert in an A320 was when I, ahem, forgot to load the fuel so just after climbing to my cruise altitude I got the beautiful "Land ASAP" message on the ECAM
trim harbor
Fair, tbh I just usually fly for as long as the plane is capable of flying <:dog...
bro 
rustic charm
Hahahah
Are you per chance flying redwings?
(There was a video from the cockpit of an A321 iirc that Redwings leased back in 2021 and half of the whole cockpit was marked inop)
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bro's plane was falling apart
trim harbor
still is
it's fine, still in normal law mode, autoflgiht not working is kinda ergh but managable
no speedbrake suck
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what's the flight number
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that's not very normal sorry to say
trim harbor
wym
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the plane falling apart
rustic charm
the plane falling apart
That's the most interesting kind of flight for flight sim tbh
full plank
its all fun & games till both engines die & you plummet to your demise
rustic charm
Oh, you mean like this?
reef isle
CCA006 moment
full plank
me crashing my PMDG 747 into the side of a mountain killing all passengers onboard BAW32
trim harbor
Lemme enable high failures fr
reef isle
How does running out of fuel cause such a severe upset?
trim harbor
Wondee what shit show that‘ll happen
rustic charm
Had to glide it down to a random runway on the coast of Myanmar
rustic charm
How does running out of fuel cause such a severe upset?
I didn't even run out of fuel
I still had around 5 tons
reef isle
So how did you end up upside down pointing straight at the ground though?
rustic charm
The plane just fully died, and since I had a rather high crosswind from the left, by the time I extended the RAT and got flight controls back, it was like this
reef isle
Huh, interesting, I'd think you'd have enough hydraulic fluid trapped inside the lines to last enough until the RAT deploys
rustic charm
Well I think if it was an intentional failure, it would go differently. But I'm pretty sure it was some bug, so the plane just completely died
reef isle
Yeah fair enough
rustic charm
So the flight controls were completely off
reef isle
Of course Volanta always picks up whatever random thing I do (even if I just spawn 2 seconds to check that a livery works), but when I ACTUALLY FLY it's unable to see the sim
Thanks Volanta 🙏
trim harbor
for anyone intersted in the v2 erjs from xcrafts
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Of course Volanta always picks up whatever random thing I do (even if I just spa...
so real
reef isle
Going go back to Kai Tak this evening
trim harbor
lovely weather for innsbruck tonite
i dont think i can actually land this
i might have to call it quits for safety and just fly to munich
i see 0
rustic charm
You're flying to Innsbruck, but not the circle to land?
trim harbor
You're flying to Innsbruck, but not the circle to land?
nah idrc that much
i've done it a few times
and im happy to not have done it in this weather
trim harbor
rustic charm
I'm not sure this is the optimal route from Louisville to Detroit
hollow oracle
we're getting pretty crazy weather in the northeast right now, headed through that midwest area
we had thunderstorms the other day, and now we're projected to get snow again, yesterday we had crazy winds but a clear day
rustic charm
Well one thing for sure, I don't see any adverse weather in MSFS
rustic charm
trim harbor
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Uhm, this is not that fun now
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😐
rustic charm
Okay, not fun at all
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Good thing I'm almost on approach
rustic charm
Uh, the AP just disconnected randomly while I was turning onto final
But it didn't fail
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Call mentor pilot
rustic charm
Nah, don't distract him from working on videos
rustic charm
I mean, tbf, I didn't have any accident, incident or near miss here
rustic charm
Uhh, I think something's missing
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💀
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When did it come out
rustic charm
Could've just as easily sent any cargo by road lol
rustic charm
When did it come out
Idk to be honest
dusty sky
Google says December 2nd 2022
Now here's the bigger question
When did that ramp get built
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Oh, and in the end I had a total of 6 different faults lol
reef isle
ooooooooooof
I had to "side step" the localiser and take a wider turn in Kai Tak because there are tall building now I guess 
I'll try to get sorted at some point, I alrady spent half a day to get the scenery and navaids working
was worth it though, even if it wasn't 100% accurate being wider made it a little easier and man the IXEG on XP11 is sooooooooo easy to fly compared to the Zibo and the LevelUp, no idea why really, probably just XP11 having a somehow simpler flight model?
no screenshots because night time unfortunately
that was fun, I recreated most of the procedure using just the fix page and flew it manually, the 737 ND is so much better than the AIrbus for this stuff, it's not even a comparison really
actually I think with Track/FPA it would have been fairly similar maybe?
had the radial going out of the VOR, and then the ABEAM (to know when to start the turn) and the 45/225 line on the NDB to intercept the loc, while I just had the IGS ready
Next time I go to Kai Tak will be with the 1011 or something in Xplane 12
rustic charm
that was fun, I recreated most of the procedure using just the fix page and flew...
Tbh any Airbus apart from the A300/A310 is a huuuge pain to fly without an LNAV path
Anything which doesn't have a separate nav tuning module is a pain for it imo to begin with. So even the 777 and the MD-11. I don't like having to go into the FMC to tune a VOR
But tbh, the best planes for such things are still just non-RNAV planes anyway
Also ngl, I need to get one of the Continental 727s delivered so I can do runs from Guam to Kai Tak
Both passenger and freighters
civic aspen
hollow oracle
yeah... that's no good, the aircraft is sensing 25,300lbs of fuel when there is only 11,760lbs loaded
the weight and balance menu is showing the proper amount of fuel
though for some reason, its using the correct fuel for gross weight calculation?
why is it using the plan fuel for gross weight and not the actual sensed fuel?
also, i loaded 13,240lbs of fuel for 25,000lbs, and the sensed fuel number went up accordingly
going into the W&B menu, setting the fuel to 0, and then going back and refueling via the EFB seemed to fix it
the default W&B menu is showing 22.8% CG, and the EFB is showing 22.6%, which is a lot different from the ~4% difference before
fickle oar
fickle oar
i have quite the cruise ahead of me too
civic aspen
You fly on VatSim?
fickle oar
nah, cba
fickle oar
gg
civic aspen
Was like that on my flight from Heathrow to Charlotte yesterday
runic hare
for anyone intersted in the v2 erjs from xcrafts
Standard XCrafts but tbf 70usd isn’t awful
Give it like a year and the Black Friday sale will make it about 65 for the whole family
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Next time I go to Kai Tak will be with the 1011 or something in Xplane 12
In the M Wilson one?
reef isle
if ini doesn't release theirs by the time I want to go back yes
rustic charm
civic aspen
Now I have a choice of what plane to fly this evening
It’s either the 777-200ER, 777-200ER or 777-200ER
Because I’m not flying the Asobo 787 again
trim harbor
Standard XCrafts but tbf 70usd isn’t awful
im probably gonna end up buying it anyway
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Because I’m not flying the Asobo 787 again
the -10?
civic aspen
Yeah
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why not the -9
civic aspen
It's the same thing
dusty sky
fair
civic aspen
I flew the 9 earlier and it wasn't great either compared to the 777
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I mean to be fair it's a shortened default plane so what do you expect
civic aspen
Apparently the MSFS 2024 version seems to be better
But I would like a proper study level one really
trim harbor
xplanes' your best bet if FF hurries up
reef isle
Last time I flew the 787 in MSFS2020, I started to descend from like 40.000ft, in idle to keep speed I had to go at like -5000fpm
and that was that
never again
trim harbor
fslabs support remains the worst one there is
rustic charm
Last time I flew the 787 in MSFS2020, I started to descend from like 40.000ft, i...
You descend with throttle in idle?
At cruise altitude that will make pretty much every plane nosedive
reef isle
You descend with throttle in idle?
well from that high altitude usually not immediately
but still, it just dropped like a brick
trim harbor
Did u land with your front landing gear 😭
rustic charm
Nope
Will need to redo it later
The flight is actually MSP - Madison - Detroit Wayne - Ronald Reagan National in full
Just was looking at NWA departures from MSP to DCA and found that cool thing
1984 timetable
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civic aspen
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rustic charm
Jeez what's going on in New York
Everything is cancelled
I load up MSFS, look at flightradar to see which runway to use and it's just empty
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reef isle
First time I'm flying an A32x with Sharklets
I was randomly browsing the Fenix Livery manager (as one often does of course), saw this livery and it was love at first sight
reef isle
Hahah sure
trim harbor
Would be funny if ini maye it an actual thing
5th engine transport would be baller
*4th
reef isle
Yeah that'd be fun
reef isle
https://external-preview.redd.it/fexynvQAP10A2a5MAHShBQjRx7t6ryODOOhk530FIlo.jpg...
Haters will say it's AI generated
rustic charm
https://external-preview.redd.it/fexynvQAP10A2a5MAHShBQjRx7t6ryODOOhk530FIlo.jpg...
I was about to say "I think ini showed the AirLanka livery" but then noticed
hollow oracle
going into the W&B menu, setting the fuel to 0, and then going back and refuelin...
yep, after trying a second flight, this seems to be the fix for this issue
if the fuel is desynced, go into the default W&B menu, zero everything (preferrably before you have started the APU or engines), and then refuel via the EFB
improving my takeoff technique fixed a majority of the overspeeding too, making sure that i actually rotate all the way up to that 15 degrees on takeoff instead of just stopping when i start climbing, i'll take the blame for that partially
i got the ftsim soundpack installed for the zibo too, me likie
rustic charm
A340: check
Dubai: check
FPS: some
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The FPS issue seems to only happen when the plane is stationary, weird
The most beautiful Airbus plane ngl
reef isle
@trim harbor what's the story behind this?
Aaaaaaaaaaah, it was a regional subsidiary
rustic charm
Cruising
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Less than 800 messages until this thread is at 50k messages
reef isle
Less than 800 messages until this thread is at 50k messages
Most of it is caused by me not having a life tbh
Hahaha
rustic charm
Most of it is caused by me not having a life tbh
Taking credit for other people's work is wrong
reef isle
Taking credit for other people's work is wrong
Alright fair enough hahahah
Then I guess it's mostly us spending all of time chatting here 😛
rustic charm
It's crazy I'm responsible for almost 20% of the messages in this thread lol
And I'm still not even playing flight sim for 2 years
reef isle
It's crazy I'm responsible for almost 20% of the messages in this thread lol
I mean, if you think about it it's probably 3 or 4 that are actually active here
rustic charm
True
Most of the people only appear here occasionally, we're here always
Time to descend
reef isle
Most of the people only appear here occasionally, we're here always <:kekw:10639...
🥲
I'm going to move my address to
#1165354616993632397
trim harbor
Most of the people only appear here occasionally, we're here always <:kekw:10639...
Cute little couple u two
rustic charm
Cute little couple u two <:ArtiaSmug:1013643446336094208>
You're here always too
dusty sky
How many do I have
rustic charm
I wonder if anyone has more messages in here than me
rustic charm
How many do I have
dusty sky
That is still not good
When was my first message here anyway
Asking cuz discord mobile is poo
dusty sky
That's like 4 messages a day minimum
hollow oracle
its funny, part of the FS survey for this year is what was the best addon released in 2025, and i couldnt think of a single one that wasn't ass
the A350 released in a horrible state and still isnt good, the A380 was 2024 (and also released in a poor state), the microprose B-17 was 2024 only and also an early access and incomplete
rustic charm
The A340 didn't release in a poor state either tbh
I bought it (and FS24 as well) on release day iirc
Could fly it normally starting day 1
Plus we've had much more than 3 planes in 2025
The A350 started the year, then we had the FSS 722 pax which I have no issues with whatever, CSS 735 which had a bad release but was later finetuned, we also got the PMDG 772 and 77L, then the ini 340-300 which I've not had any issues with, technically also the MD-80v2 which is amazing
And that's me only counting airliners
trim harbor
the a350 is genuinely very good
trim harbor
it's probably the best modern airliner for msfs
i find it on par with the fenix but it performs and feels better to me
trim harbor
Could fly it normally starting day 1
yea that
the a340 was goated from day 1
the a380 is free so i dont expect too much from them
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And I'm stuck with the shitty x works A340
rustic charm
the a380 is free so i dont expect too much from them
But it wasn't released in 2025 was it?
I thought it was mid-2024 or something
Last time I flew it, it was fine enough
trim harbor
yuh
it was mid 24s
the plane itself is great its just the performance is abit quirky at times
rustic charm
But that was a while ago, and I only flew it a grand total of 2 times lol
reef isle
its funny, part of the FS survey for this year is what was the best addon releas...
I feel like most of that survey was AI generated lol
A lot of it didn't really make any sense to me
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https://www.youtube.com/live/ikJv2TWrbI0?si=9_SfrQS7jqqg038G
Holy shit it's happening
I can't wait bro I won't buy it
This joke is getting old
reef isle
its funny, part of the FS survey for this year is what was the best addon releas...
I wonder how many people put the PilotNL Sud Aviation Caravelle as plane of the year lol
Nearly put the Starship in there
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I would love the caravelle and I know it's cheap
rustic charm
Just opened the survey
Question 2.6
Which of the following aircraft, if any, do you think you could land in real life, if necessary?
Is there anyone who didn't choose all?
Tbf I'm only selecting 3 - 320, 737 and MD-80. I'm sure if I had to, I'd be able to land those in some way or another. At the very least I'd know how to set up an autoland. Plus I've not tried any of the other ones in sims, so idk. Even a C172, since I've not tried it at all, I would probably try to land it at 120kts or something lol
reef isle
Probably I could set up an autoland
that's about it
so I chose none of the above
I wouldn't risk landing a real plane if hundreds of lives depended on it
trim harbor
I wouldn't risk landing a real plane if hundreds of lives depended on it
thats my opinion on it as well
unless i can autoland it and with assistance of atc (vectoring etc) i wouldnt dare
even if i had my ppl idk if i'd wanna land a packed a320
dusky leaf
Chose none also. Only sane answer
rustic charm
Well I did consider setting an autoland as an option
Wouldn't want to hand-fly anything
dusty sky
Guys we need another A320
rustic charm
Can never have enough A320s
hollow oracle
A lot of it didn't really make any sense to me
only one question was kind of weirdly worded, but i cant remember what it was
dusky leaf
I thought a few were eh what?
dusky leaf
Still waiting to be able to afford the damn felis 742
Not to rub salt in the wound, but its a fantastic aircraft 😆
alpine coral
dusky leaf
X-crafts ERJ v2 is looking decent. Will most likely get the 145 next week
rustic charm
Welp, back with my most-flown plane
tired pond
Verticalsim announcing KMCO was not on my radar but I'm very happy about it
tired pond
KSNA I'd assume?
Orange County is a fun airport tbh, I've got UK2000's but I'd prefer a Verticalsim's rendition
rustic charm
KSNA I'd assume?
Makes sense
I don't have much of Verticalsim I think
They did Ontario didn't they?
I have that one, but that's it
Tbh wouldn't mind if they did a bit more in LA area. We don't have any decent Long Beach tbh
Haven't used Ontario much yet either, but it'll be very nice to have once we get the 757 freighters
Tbh I should deliver an A300 to UPS, surely will find some flights to do, and those are now mostly on just domestic US routes
rustic charm
Are the restrictions in European airports genuinely that strict? Midnight and that's it, can't depart? https://youtube.com/shorts/e-xE8sL63TY?si=es9jd0sTT4TV5mqs
An airport, especially one that is located far away from the city, having any kind of time restrictions is quite unbelievable to me
I'm used to normal airports having departures at any time of day. How is it even remotely acceptable that a slight delay can force an airline to cancel the flight simply because it's going to depart after midnight?
I mean, I can consider 3 places my home airports - Sheremetyevo, Tivat and DXB. Sheremetyevo and DXB both have arrivals and departures during every hour of the day, they never stop, that's it. And Tivat shuts down for the night, but the only reason for that being the terrain which makes it simply unsafe to use after sunset. Plus it doesn't really get enough traffic to require 24-hour operation
rustic charm
Few things are more satisfying than flight paths of Russian far east flights
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funny erj
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shortbus
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really gotta invest into chaseplane
full plank
flying something that isn't a A321neo for a change
dusty sky
@hollow oracle do you have the 747-300 and SP for the felis
hollow oracle
i have seen them, but i dont have them installed
dusty sky
I wanted to know if they're good
hollow oracle
they look cool
tbh, if i'm flying a SP or -300 flight i'm just going to fly the regular -200
dusty sky
Decently remote airports in Australia?
And idk some dumb flights like Haneda to Tehran
rustic charm
tbh, if i'm flying a SP or -300 flight i'm just going to fly the regular -200
But the SP is prettier
dusty sky
I just wonder how it flies
rustic charm
Probably thanks to its wings
rustic charm
Tbh the SP will probably feel quite light and powerful, more responsive than a regular 747
Roughly 60 tons lighter than a -100 after all
dusty sky
I need this bro how am I gonna fly to random 1500 meter long runways in Australia
civic aspen
rustic charm
Pretty
rustic charm
Time for a roadtrip
civic aspen
That an A300?
777-200ER
civic aspen
MD11?
rustic charm
Yep
rustic charm
Oh, United, nice
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fickle oar
dusty sky
Are you sure that's not a volcano?
hollow oracle
That’s the Milky Way
Humans have gone for so long in massively light polluted areas that people have forgotten that you can see the Milky Way at night with no light pollution
rustic charm
Don't think I've ever spent a night somewhere away from any light pollution at all
And even small cities etc make it impossible to see the sky
rustic charm
Are you sure that's not a volcano?
Also generally volcanic ash at high altitudes doesn't stand out much as far as I know, it kinda looks like regular clouds and at night is practically invisible
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Descending into Pyongyang, I probably won't be allowed to post any more pictures
hollow oracle
i wanted to do one of those flights so bad, but its basically the entirety of siberia/china/mongolia
maybe now that i have the Tu-154 installed for XP i can do an air koryo flight
rustic charm
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The scenery decided to disable itself for whichever reason 🫠
So landed into default
Hopefully in 2 days I'll be taking off out of a normal thing
rustic charm
Ngl, the new flightsim.to is worse now
Wish we had an option to go back to previous website versions
reef isle
It's crazy work.
Every update you think "this is already the worst website in the entire world"
But every update they still manage to make it worse, somehow
That's seriously impressive work
rustic charm
Yeah
It's impressive how they manage to constantly and consistently make it worse lol
Honestly
What the fuck is this
Firstly, AI, awful
Secondly
Why are these slightly different but way too similar to be passed off as different
Also why does every one have an icon on top of the image other than new uploads?
reef isle
Firstly, AI, awful
AI for anything flight simulator is absolutely wild to me.
People take so many screenshots that will, realistically, have no purpose apart from sharing it immediately with a few friends, the VERY FEW opportunities to use flight sim screenshots for anything actually useful you use AI
reef isle
The only reason you do that is because you're either an idiot, or extremely lazy
rustic charm
Like, iirc Swiss made a commercial some time ago where they used FS24 to get in-flight A350 shots instead of the usual expensive air-to-air photography
reef isle
I generally try to not insult based on someone's work, because we all do something we're not proud of, or end up in bad circumstances, tight deadlines, etc... But I'm definitely making an exception for anything AI in a flight sim context
rustic charm
So literally, what's stopping you from using screenshots on community websites...
This just doesn't make sense
reef isle
You literally open ANY popular flight sim server, go in the media channel, see a screenshot that fits what you want, you ask "hey, can I use this for flightsim.to?" And 99% of the time you'll hear "yes of course"
rustic charm
Yeah
rustic charm
People won't even ask for money in return lol, most of the people don't really care where their screenshot gets used. And people that do care will most likely be happy to brag about their screenshot being featured on the main MSFS modding website lol
reef isle
Because you know, the "proper" alternative is to open up the flight sim, have the plane in a particular pose and take a screenshot.
Huge time sink, extremely hard, I get why they'd rather use AI honestly
100% justified
rustic charm
Yeah, because obviously it would take hours to do that
reef isle
Yeah, because obviously it would take hours to do that
Yeah, and the effort
Ugh
Have you ever taken A SCREENSHOT before?
That was a pain
I still remember the last time I did
I couldn't do anything for the rest of day
That's how utterly exhausting that was
rustic charm
Can you imagine how much effort it would take to use slew mode to position the aircraft correctly?
reef isle
My arms already feel weak by your mentions of "slew mode"
My head hurts
No man, I'd rather ask AI
rustic charm
Yeah, so much easier ngl
reef isle
Actually, being serious, you know the absolute worst part about this?
I have a feeling that the reason is that they don't really have an idea of what to put in there
So they just go "generate an image that would fit well as a background for this element of my hopelessly horrible website"
rustic charm
Yeah
I mean, you could still easily get a generic-looking flight sim screenshot... but no, too much effort
reef isle
And this is the exact AI use that totally invalidates the "iT's JuSt A tOoL" argument.
Because it's not a tool that helps you achieve what you want, it replaces the entire thinking and decision process
A tool helps a person to do what the person wants.
AI does what IT wants, if used like this
Which is fundamentally different
It removes all creativity, uniqueness and "soul" from your already hopelessly horrible website
I'd take this over any vibe coded cookie cutter website
I want the internet from the 2000s and early 2010s back 🙁
And that's the case that's covered by "being an idiot" instead of "being lazy"
rustic charm
https://l1011.homestead.com/
I'd take this over any vibe coded cookie cutter we...
That looks proper ngl
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reef isle
Guest book, random colours, different fonts all thrown together without any care for how it looks.
But it has some drawbacks too...
rustic charm
Of course you can feel the year 2007 when looking at it, but, you could easily have a modern website that still uses similar elements
reef isle
Of course you can feel the year 2007 when looking at it, but, you could easily h...
Feeling 2007 is the best part though
Hahaha
For me at least
rustic charm
Well, I'm not gonna argue, but I'm unable to confirm either
dusty sky
Bro is trying to make me cry 😭
full plank
discord really doing wonders with the picture quality
rustic charm
Oh yeah night/dark pictures suffer from it a lot
dusty sky
Why can't I have it 😭
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full plank
nice just seeing good ass planes instead of just 1 screenshot followed by a mega wall of text
hollow oracle
nice just seeing good ass planes instead of just 1 screenshot followed by a mega...
i hate that shit, i do not need a novel written about a single video game screenshot
rustic charm
Well tbf this chat isn't screenshot-only, so here there's gonna be a lot of text and general discussion
But I do think when there is a chat specifically for screenshots, a whole bunch of text doesn't help
full plank
Well tbf this chat isn't screenshot-only, so here there's gonna be a lot of text...
thats true & im not saying it shouldn't be there
but people that post 1 screenshot & writes a star wars intro thing about their flight
like good lord man
rustic charm
Oh yeah, I know what you mean
full plank
I'm not as active in here as I'd like, partly cause work prohibits long flight sim sessions, but jeez some people need to tone it down
anyway, enough waffle. Heres some JBU tails
trim harbor
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but people that post 1 screenshot & writes a star wars intro thing about their f...
volanta discord b like
o have u all heard about the new 787 coming this year supposedly
from some random dev
full plank
good to know, im already in 1 server filled with a gaggle of mongs (fenix discord)
trim harbor
thats brand new apparently
rustic charm
o have u all heard about the new 787 coming this year supposedly
Actually nope, is there any announcement page or anything?
hollow oracle
eh... part of the reason why i like the 737 is the x-aviation one is so highly regarded
dusky leaf
That looks…. Absolutely awful 😆
The XA 737 isnt all that tbh. Was just a bare bones “make it fly” patch for 12
hollow oracle
The XA 737 isnt all that tbh. Was just a bare bones “make it fly” patch for 12
eh... true, but in terms of 737 classics its definitely by far the best in any sim
but in the competitive market of 737s overall, it falls kind of flat
dusky leaf
Didnt realise the flight course was freeware. Shouldnt slag freeware, but…
hollow oracle
oh, for freeware that's not half bad, though then again, its competing with the zibo and levelup
trim harbor
The XA 737 isnt all that tbh. Was just a bare bones “make it fly” patch for 12
the vnavs broken i swear
rustic charm
True
But tbf
It feels nicer because like 2 versions earlier it was as well as nonexistent
Idk how they even initially managed to make it so broken lol
A year ago it worked fine, then at some point they just completely broke it so it wouldn't actually show you what you're searching for
For a while it was easier to just search for liveries in google and it would simply give the relevant fs.to links
reef isle
The XA 737 isnt all that tbh. Was just a bare bones “make it fly” patch for 12
Yeah, I'm even thinking of keeping it on XP11 indefinitely
because first, no RG mod on 12, and second, I've heard it's not very nice
especially the flight model
I could potentially wait out until the russian people figure out their 737 classic and get that in FS24 if I really want to ditch XP11 at some point
dusty sky
I just started descending
Stop bullying me
tired pond
but in the competitive market of 737s overall, it falls kind of flat
The IXEG has just lagged behind with a lot of promises that haven't happened really
trim harbor
rustic charm
Want to use the worldport, have no worldport, forced to use T4
I'm ATC's worst nightmare
dusty sky
I'm ATC's worst nightmare
Fly vatsim trust me bro
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"Clipper 9094 WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
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"Clipper 9094 expedite turn left you are about to intercept a 747!!!!"
Well tbf, I do think I would probably do quite well with ATC. In these cases it's just bit tough to fly the jet and vector yourself at the same time
reef isle
I'm ATC's worst nightmare
an N90 controller would get an actual heart attack if they looked at this
a friend of mine is a VATUSA controller and got to N90 approach on VATSIM
I'm a bit scared to send that to him lol
rustic charm
Would it make the situation better if I say that Simbrief made me use a STAR that doesn't exist
reef isle
IGN1?
RIP, you'll always continue to ignite in my hear (even if IGN never was ignition)
rustic charm
LENDY8
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I'm ATC's worst nightmare
My idea with this was "Well, overfly Newark directly above to not interfere with Newark traffic, then same for LaGuardia"
Only one issue
I planned to be at 8000 above LGA
But I got distracted because my family called me
First to check whether I'm still alive because, well, you know. Secondly to wish me happy birthday
So I started descending very late and was above LGA at like 16k
So instead of continuing from LaGuardia and intercepting the ILS directly, I had to add track miles
reef isle
Verdict: You forgot about robinsville and should go to jail /s
also probably islip too
rustic charm
And I decided that the safest way to do that is to go east of JFK cause that area was seemingly empty at the time within the altitude I used up (departures were 31L so they face away from that area, and arrivals were 22L so mostly coming from the north)
Welp
From the data I found
The wind favours runway 17
Which means that it's gonna be a fun departure
Cause almost everything south and southeast of the airport is restricted airspace
It's so restricted that it's marked as prohibited from ground to unlimited
So you can't even overfly it in cruise
trim harbor
rustic charm
And as usual
rustic charm
Time for controlled rest
trim harbor
i hit my gear switch by accident
the aps borked
why am i losing speed now
it all worked fine just a min ago
and why am i banking
idk why the plane doesnt have any power on toga whatsoever
hollow oracle
Real pilots have never know the struggle that is GSX 😭
rustic charm
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Descending
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An average Sheremetyevo arrival
Also
This is just perfect
I've flown into North Korea before I've flown into France
rustic charm
Ngl, this was a very fun rotation though
Landing in Pyongyang was fun with us trying to figure out what the hell is even going on in that airport
For context, the airport has 2 runways - an old, original one, and a newer one off to the side. From what I understand now, they constructed the new one, closed the old one after that but still kept it in operational condition, then realised the costs of maintaining the new runway were too high and just abandoned it and reverted to using the old one
trim harbor
finally got it working
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reef isle
I've flown into North Korea before I've flown into France
Wait
haven't you done loads of deliveries from Tolouse?
rustic charm
Volanta only counts when it when you've landed in a country
So takeoffs don't count
rustic charm
And I've never landed in France. I only leave France, never go to France
This is about to change anyway
Since I'm gonna need to get an A321 into LFPG and then do an LFBG - LTFM - LFBG rotation as a group flight with a friend at some point in the near future
An airport I really don't wanna go to, and the airport I hate the most in the entire world, together
Flown with Air France
In exchange for later doing a rotation of Varig's Rio de Janeiro - Hong Kong route
dusky leaf
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idk tbh, im subbing it for an a330 in the va i fly for
rustic charm
Ah, fair
Still
Proper
Don't forget to get a screenshot with open reversers on landing
trim harbor
i took the plunge and got chaseplane
worth it even tho its buggy for me
keeps resetting upon restarting msfs
trim harbor
Does it really improve it that much
ibr, no
the camera shake feels great
the cinematic is good too
but it isnt a day or night like it was in p3d imho
trim harbor
Btw, which VA?
qvirtual
rustic charm
Fair
reef isle
Flown with Air France
I think almost exclusively with Air Inter lol
The FSX Mercure is so good
I can't wait for the guy to make it for FS24
I want an A320-100 so bad 😭
My virtual museum hangar is sorely missing F-GGEA and F-GGEB 😭
reef isle
whats the big diff
EIS-1, no wingfence, some had a slightly different very early FCU, and a few other things
trim harbor
oh wait yea
i didnt notice that it doenst have the wingtips
thats very trippy
eis1 over eis2 tho
reef isle
this is why the FCU was changed btw 😅
it used to omit the two zeros after the vertical speed, and the crew didn't recognize they were in V/S instead of FPA
rustic charm
So it showed it the same as the A300/310 then
Except the A300/310 don't have a FPA mode iirc, so there can't be confusion
Meanwhile the 320 does have a FPA mode
Tbh I would love an earlier A320
Except for some reason I doubt Fenix will make them
trim harbor
Except for some reason I doubt Fenix will make them
Yea probably not
They wont make EIS1 as well
rustic charm
Yeah
Ngl
Would be lovely to have EIS1
Firstly it's just better
And anyone who disagrees is wrong
Secondly a lot of -200s also have EIS1, I think most of BA's fleet is on EIS1
reef isle
Oh yeah loads
rustic charm
Oh
trim harbor
rustic charm
That's cool
rustic charm
Tbh imo the A340 might for now be ini's best
rustic charm
Try to fly to Dubai with real-world jamming enabled
trim harbor
ig to wasm'd
hollow oracle
ig to wasm'd
iran got you 💔
runic hare
GSX Who?
rustic charm
Abu Dhabi is slowly reopening the airspace
A cargo 777 left to Hong Kong earlier today, and a Lufthansa 380 just left to Munich
runic hare
a lot of airlines are currently panicking as the usually do trying to get aircraft and crews away from being blown up
rustic charm
Yeah, but also there are several actual passenger flights
I think the Lufthansa 380 was just the plane being evacuated
But Etihad has several flights to different countries scheduled for today
trim harbor
I think the Lufthansa 380 was just the plane being evacuated
Correct
fleet pilot
is any of flight sims available for casuals?
trim harbor
is any of flight sims available for casuals?
msfs
rustic charm
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is any of flight sims available for casuals?
Default MSFS aircraft are pretty easy
fleet pilot
ty
runic hare
realops is cool
trim harbor
realops is cool
How much is it though
runic hare
I think it’s 25 usd?
It’s better than jar GHD
That was outdated in 2017
And Simple Ground Services while it is free is limited with what it can do
It also annoys me
trim harbor
Jar ghd 💀
Jar as a whole is a terrible company
I started on their A320 in xplane
And their terrible a330
runic hare
i dont mind the 330
it was the best 330 in any sim for a considerable amount of time
The 320 is just dated
very dated
rustic charm
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And it broke
trim harbor
And it broke
Wasm‘d?
rustic charm
Probably
The plane just became completely unresponsive, I couldn't interact with any controls
And I mean that quite literally
Couldn't switch autopilot modes, couldn't disable the autopilot, couldn't move the throttles or anything
trim harbor
Ye it was wasm then
rustic charm
Interestingly it didn't give me the orange screens
full plank
2020 or 2024? Pretty sure 2020 doesn’t give the orange screens
I had a WASM crash in the 772 & displays just froze
rustic charm
That was 24
I really almost never have issues with 2020. Only had WASM crashes on the 727 back when it released but those were fixed relatively quickly
Wish the 340 was available in 2020
civic aspen
reef isle
It's that time again
fickle oar
make sure to clear the planes wasm folders after they get updated etc. maybe im just lucky but i assume cuz of this ive had like max 3 wasm crashes in total in fs2024
trim harbor
make sure to clear the planes wasm folders after they get updated etc. maybe im ...
i funnily enough did
it's kinda sucky
the a350 became more unstable after it updated more and more for me
i didnt have wasm issues prior
full plank
I think out of both sims, I've only had a WASM crash in the 772
trim harbor
looks funny now but atleast autosave worked flawlessly
full plank
actually tell a lie, the first A350 pond hop I did it WASM'ed sometime during the night so I just plummeted to my demise shortly after 7 am
reef isle
looks funny now but atleast autosave worked flawlessly
Nice, I usually just respawn somewhere close and slew to the right place
Hahah
fickle oar
it's kinda sucky
oof
trim harbor
rustic charm
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@balmy forge sorry for pinging you, but idk who else to ask about OnAir. Is there any way to skip a day of a certain flight when you create your own schedules? The route reliability system for the schedules says "Reliability is decreased by 5% when you skip a flight" which makes me assume it's possible, but I literally can't find any option to skip a specific flight from a specific day. And it becomes a problem because one of my planes was on maintenance so now all the routes it is supposed to do are a whole day late, and the only way I see to return it back to being on time is to deactivate the routes and that would reset them to 50% reliability, which isn't quite ideal
In IFR conditions now
balmy forge
Can you skip here?
rustic charm
Wait what menu is that
I've never seen that lol
Oh that's the freelance dashboard
Nope, can't skip there, doesn't show your own route
balmy forge
According to the OnAir discord, apparently the options are either run delayed or use another plane
rustic charm
Ah...
Well that's unfortunate
Guess I'm gonna need to reset the routes then
It's interesting that it mentions a 5% reliability reduction for skipping... when it's impossible to skip lol
Guess I'm gonna need to get some reserve planes
I'm sure I can afford it, 727s are a literal gold mine
balmy forge
At some point I'll buy the 727 in sim
rustic charm
Very fun thing to fly
rustic charm
Oh jeez I forgot from my DC-9 delivery that Atlanta literally has no conventional nav STARs, at all
Fully RNAV
rustic charm
Piston operation is really fun, but it also is basically:
Take off at sunrise
Cruise the whole day, land at sunset
Moved a total of 50 miles
rustic charm
civic aspen
rustic charm
Perfect, my flight to Moscow (was supposed to be on the 18th) got cancelled today. Looks like the airlines expect that the issues won't be resolved in 2 weeks
trim harbor
reef isle
It's that time again (for real this time)
