#Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

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trim harbor
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Yup

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I might just fly Air China again with a self transfer

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Could be worse I dare say

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Surreal

dusky leaf
hollow oracle
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i got my trackir out again, im still not really interested in using it

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its cool technology, and im sure in the name of accessibility its a massive tool, but for my uses i dont really see a point

untold finch
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For airliner stuff it isn't that crucial

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For GA moreso, for air combat very much so

reef isle
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I can't really fly without it

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Even airliners

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I did a flight recently without it and it was such a huge chore having to rotate the view every single time with the mouse

hollow oracle
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im using the default profile, so that might be why, i hate how it "sticks" to the main axis'

untold finch
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Ah, that's pretty customisable

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You can reduce or completely remove that effect

hollow oracle
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its just a lot of trial and error to find out what i like though, because too smooth and stiff isnt fun, but too loose and its a lot of movement

untold finch
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Yeah, it's a pain to set up at first, but it's one-and-done i find

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I used to use VR for airliner startup and takeoff, the MSFS feature to switch between VR and 2D was super helpful for cruise though, then back to VR for the landing

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Ain't nothing like feeling the sense of scale

hollow oracle
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VR really does give you a sense of depth that completely changes the sim

untold finch
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I still need to try out the new Oasis driver for my reverb

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Apparently it's better than WMR ever was

hollow oracle
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i really wanted to see if i could get flyinside working for FSX, but it seems like it doesnt want to play ball

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i've only ever tried out VR in MSFS a little bit for takeoff in the PMDG 737, and it went pretty good, but i think i had issues when it came to switching back to 2D for cruise

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i never realized that the MCP stuck out so far from the displays and main panel, it was pretty cool to see, and it made me realize how much you miss playing on a flat screen

hollow oracle
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you know what i really love

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doing a flight, forgetting to check that your destination airport isnt broken, and then on approach you realize that your runway is sunk like 30ft into the ground

reef isle
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The settings are quite annoying and the way the VR controllers work seem quite annoying

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But other than that it was just a matter of setting a few binds

hollow oracle
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i might try it again, i forget what error i had gotten, i think it was something to do with oculus

hollow oracle
reef isle
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But that's fair enough, we don't have to be the same

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In that case even FlyInside is even better

reef isle
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But a few friends of mine that have more recent headsets have had a lot more problems

hollow oracle
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im using a quest 2, which at this point is an ancient artifact compared to the 3

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it probably isnt helping that i pulled a muscle in my upper right back too, i can barely sit up straight, let alone look all over the place to use trackir/VR right now

trim harbor
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crazy to think its 'old' now

dusky leaf
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The new JF\Thranda Archer

trim harbor
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@runic hare

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u think i can just ask for them to NOT check my baggage thru and leave the airport

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because theres no way in hell im sitting at the airport for 12 hours

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like the hell will happen w my bag

runic hare
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yeah

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just ask for it to be sent to vienna and check it for the return

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ive done this before in stockholm

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19h layover 11am-6am

dusty sky
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can someone fact check my fmc?

trim harbor
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And leave

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I‘ll have the tickets already

runic hare
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your gonna have to pay for a locker

trim harbor
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nono i meant like

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not even collect the bag

runic hare
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oh

trim harbor
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check it through to LEJ

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and just leave the airport

runic hare
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yeah you can check it through

trim harbor
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its non shengen to shengen soo

runic hare
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or well

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you should

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check with whoever your flying with

trim harbor
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ANA and braathens

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whoever the hell braathens is

runic hare
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well AUA op by bra

trim harbor
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ah

runic hare
trim harbor
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2 hours on that

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am i cooked

runic hare
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nah ur gonna be alright

trim harbor
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first time on a prop plane

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i am quite excited

runic hare
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yeah check with ana then with aua as well

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i could have checked a bag through all the way from WAW-MAN and that was with SAS

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if its one itinerary then it should be ok?

trim harbor
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it is one ticket ye

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just scared that if i leave they'll send my bag into the abyss

runic hare
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i mean you need to clear security again anyway at VIE

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so in theory they should send it through but it isnt standard so check with the airlines

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worst comes to worst send the bag to a locker in the airport and leave it for a few hours while you explore

trim harbor
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wait so is braathens star alliance then

runic hare
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Austrian flight operated by braathens

runic hare
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replacement for the ancient Q400's while they have yearly maintenance

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the flight is austrian so its up to them to sort it

trim harbor
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the flight doesnt even exist rn

runic hare
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winter schedules innit

trim harbor
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oh yeah i forgot abt that

runic hare
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see what the airlines say then ask when you get to haneda as well

trim harbor
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ofc

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when i went in feb i caused chaos because i asked them to check my bag thru on another star alliance carrier

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surreal

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check in literally took an hour

runic hare
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yeah it depends on who you have as a checkin agent as well

rustic charm
runic hare
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the older ones usually know exactly what you want to do and how to do it

rustic charm
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If Ethiopian managed to find a lost suitcase somewhere between Cairo and Zanzibar (I still don't know where and how exactly it got lost), I'm sure in Europe it'll be no problem

trim harbor
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zanzibar looks like a cool place to go to

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how was ethiopian

rustic charm
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It is a cool place indeed tbf

rustic charm
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Those were also short hops in the middle of the night, so not much to judge from

trim harbor
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what routes did u fly

rustic charm
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I was mostly just a bit negatively surprised by how dirty their interiors were on planes that were essentially brand new (I don't remember exactly but I think it was twice A350 twice 787? Some mix of those 2 anyway)

rustic charm
trim harbor
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Cairo airport is a mess

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The entirety of egypt is a big mess outside of the hotel areas

rustic charm
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Although one thing I will note is the connection through HAAB, they do wait for passengers. Especially from late-running flights. On the way to Zanzibar we had a total of like 30 minutes from arrival to scheduled departure in the end. And we got parked on a remote stand on the inbound flight. I was rather sure about missing a flight for the first time, but on that one not only did we make it in time, we also waited for a bunch of people to board after us, and they even reloaded all the baggage onto the new plane

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(The lost suitcase was my brother's, he was flying in a day later on the same route, but his inbound flight got even more delayed)

trim harbor
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god

rustic charm
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So I checked on my flightradar records

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It was indeed twice 350 and twice dreamliner

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350s were both on the way to Zanzibar, 788s on the way back

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And an ATR-72 from Zanzibar to Arusha inbetween XD

trim harbor
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I wanna fly on an a350

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90% of my flights were dreamliners

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Crj and dreamliners

rustic charm
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My most-flown widebody is the 777 and I'm proud

runic hare
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you have not lived until you have flown an ATR 42 into heathrow

trim harbor
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:(

rustic charm
trim harbor
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I dislikey the 777

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Personally

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As a passenger

rustic charm
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Okay now that's definitely a serious take XD

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But I do respect the opinion

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Plus it really depends on your experience with the type

trim harbor
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I‘ve flown ANA,JAL,EK 77s and hated it

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Old and loud, IFEs were meh at best

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787 is nice but boring af

runic hare
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777's are cool but this is cooler

rustic charm
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The worst long haul experiences I had were on A330s, so I dislike 330s, it really comes down to that

trim harbor
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I do have a collection of greenland tho l o l

trim harbor
runic hare
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ofc

rustic charm
runic hare
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I like A330's

rustic charm
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And with Aeroflot, the 777 is easily the best in the long haul fleet

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The best cabin by far

trim harbor
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Turkish a330s sucked so mich 😭

runic hare
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however I have only flown shorter routes on them

trim harbor
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Mine was 6 hours

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Those were enough

runic hare
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2h's to madrid and back a few times

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iberia 332

trim harbor
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Holy shit

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Og

rustic charm
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I think the flight that ultimately decided that I don't like 330s was Moscow to Male, which is... 8-ish hours?

runic hare
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BA 767 once as well

trim harbor
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I only did JAL 767

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That was aight

trim harbor
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My condolences

rustic charm
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Tbf it wasn't bad

trim harbor
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Construction site of an airport

rustic charm
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And then boarding a twin otter on floats was cool

trim harbor
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In 2022 atleast

runic hare
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BA had a 2-4-2 shorthaul config so it wasnt great

trim harbor
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Flying twotters was amazing

rustic charm
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Ngl I wish I experienced Aeroflot Il-96s

trim harbor
runic hare
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madrid as well

trim harbor
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Oh bruh

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When did they get retired even

runic hare
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like 2016?

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maybe earlier

trim harbor
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I dont think I‘ve eve seen a BA767

trim harbor
runic hare
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never fitted them with sharklets

trim harbor
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BMIII

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rustic charm
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Not just because it's Il-96 only one of the coolest planes ever, but because iirc they had the 4th widest fuselage and cabin (behind 380s, 747s and 777s) overall, and they were configured as 3-3-3

runic hare
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yeah that was a cool day

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AGP-MAD-LHR
CRJ 1000-767

trim harbor
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Lucky

runic hare
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landor 767

trim harbor
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Im hunting for a dash flight rn

runic hare
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they are quite rare now unfortunately

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in central europe at least

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Flybe, AirBerlin, LHRegional all no longer flying

trim harbor
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Im happy I was fortuante enough for a 717 flight tho

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And a cockpit tour

rustic charm
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That's cool

trim harbor
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Lh regional my love

rustic charm
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I've never had a cockpit tour

trim harbor
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I will never forget you

trim harbor
rustic charm
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Strict with those in Russia

trim harbor
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The american and european ones are open about it

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I had no success in asia thus far

runic hare
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also ultra rare 767-200 US Airways lease to BA for gatwick routes to south america

trim harbor
rustic charm
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I asked after the flight on the 747 with Rossiya, got told that they don't even allow flight attendants into the cockpit

rustic charm
trim harbor
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Makes sense for russia, esp at this current moment

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They gifted me this as well

rustic charm
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Happy enough I got to fly on a 747-400 in 2025 overall

trim harbor
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Very very kind people

rustic charm
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Like

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That's not a Boeing cockpit alright

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Not at all

trim harbor
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744 is still on my bucket list

rustic charm
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Well

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Not many of those

trim harbor
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Only LH flying them in europe still

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And LH is dogshit

rustic charm
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I think your only chances are in fact Lufthansa, Air China or Rossiya

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Sooo

trim harbor
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I hate that airline with all my life

rustic charm
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Just Lufthansa XD

trim harbor
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Rossiya w livery

runic hare
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ACF should have been the boeing flight deck of choice instead of whatever the fuck the NG's had

rustic charm
runic hare
trim harbor
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Rossiya and old Aeroflot are my fav

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Oh

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I agree

runic hare
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common between the MD11 and 717(MD90)

rustic charm
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I love the Rossiya livery, and tbh I love all the Aeroflot liveries too, and there were many

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Shame that my only chance at an Il-96 now is Cubana

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And an Il-86... completely gone

runic hare
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for now.....

rustic charm
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I WISH

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I WISH THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT ITS A GOOD DESIGN AND WE SHOULD RESTART PRODUCTION

trim harbor
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Cubana based

rustic charm
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Like literally the main problem of both the Il-96 and the Tu-204 is the need for a flight engineer

trim harbor
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At this point I‘d visit NK and Cuba and not care that I cant ever get ESTA anymore

rustic charm
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Yeah

runic hare
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I've got the Saab 2000, ATR 42/72, Q300/400. I just wanna fly on an IL114 now

trim harbor
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Wtffffff

rustic charm
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Yet guess what, we build Superjets that don't need an FE, why not just apply the same concept onto the other planes. We clearly can do it, we just don't want to

runic hare
trim harbor
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What the hell

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Where do they fly

runic hare
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UK regoinal

rustic charm
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Just scrap the whole MC-21 project already, admit defeat, it's not needed. Just take the cockpit developments from that plane and apply them to a Tu-204

trim harbor
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Maybe I do have to go to the UK again

runic hare
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not anymore i think

trim harbor
runic hare
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im not sure if its all ATR's yet but that was there plan

rustic charm
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Well

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Not probably

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Definitely

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They're gone

runic hare
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flew HUY-ABZ on a Saab2000 with them

rustic charm
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But a Tu-95... technically the chance is not 0

runic hare
rustic charm
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Of the 114? Definitely not

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Oh wait

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No

runic hare
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fle PLH-LCY when i was a young boy with AirSouthwest on a Q300

rustic charm
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I am stupid

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I thought you were talking about the tu-114

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I think il-114 is indeed planned to be restarted

runic hare
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nahhh the russian Saab 2000

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Q400 with flybe a few times

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ATR 42 LHR-DND

trim harbor
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Wasnt flybe supposed to restart

runic hare
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ATR 72's everywhere

trim harbor
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Am I remembering wrong

runic hare
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then covid happened

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again

trim harbor
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Oh

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Pity

rustic charm
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Ngl I've never flown on any turboprops other than the ATR-72-500 once

runic hare
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turboprops cool

trim harbor
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Scary planes

runic hare
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nooooo

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cool planes

rustic charm
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I do agree they're cool

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Would love to fly on some older ones too

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An-24

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(Can we pls pls pls have one in MSFS)

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Those are still in service too

trim harbor
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Wish russia was open :(

rustic charm
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In the more forgotten regions, but they still fly

trim harbor
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Im too scared to go

runic hare
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@trim harbor Eastern Airways Saab 2000 operating for British Airways

trim harbor
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Thats cool but weird

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I never knew

runic hare
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this did LCY routes to silly places like Prestwick, Inverness, Sumburugh, Derry

rustic charm
# trim harbor Wish russia was open :(

Technically the borders are not closed, but it's expensive now, and there will be questions both when you enter Russia ("Who do you work for? Who sent you here?!") and when you go back home ("Now what exactly have you been doing in Russia? What have you told them?!")

trim harbor
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London city cool airport

runic hare
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also i think to plymouth as well before it closed

trim harbor
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Shitty immigration tho lol

trim harbor
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But I‘ve read up on it

runic hare
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air southwest my beloved

trim harbor
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They search ur phone etc

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Not up for the gamble or buying a second phone

runic hare
rustic charm
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Oh yeah, now it's really tough for "unfriendly" foreigners

runic hare
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the better southwest airlines

trim harbor
runic hare
rustic charm
trim harbor
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The colors r goated

trim harbor
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I dont like them looking at it nor do anything w it

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I understand it but noty

rustic charm
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I absolutely understand

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I wouldn't want my phone being searched for no reason either

trim harbor
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When russia reopens ill visit it tho

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Its in the top5

rustic charm
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If

trim harbor
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It will eventually

rustic charm
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Yeah

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I just don't know when

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Seemingly no stopping in sight...

trim harbor
rustic charm
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Ngl would love for it all to be over myself. Would finally visit Europe again, and would finally go to the US and Canada. Always wanted to visit, but never got the chance

reef isle
# trim harbor

Please please please please tell me there's a livery for FJS

rustic charm
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I had a trip to US planned and booked for summer 2020

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And then it all started

trim harbor
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Or maybe u did

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I (big) think that they had similiar routes to JTA now

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They even habe a retro livery for it

rustic charm
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Ngl Japan seems cool

dusty sky
reef isle
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But it's right up my alley

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It's so stupid but I love these kinds of tiny airlines that are named very closely to huge airlines

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Same thing with the Alaskan Ryan Air

trim harbor
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It is not the heaven everyone makes it to be

rustic charm
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Fair

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Tbf I've never been neither heard or know much

trim harbor
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I dont know why it blew up so much either

hollow oracle
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im getting this extremely annoying bug in MSFS where the camera skips around all over the place

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in that clip im moving my mouse smoothly

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it seems like its related to chaseplane, when i disable chaseplane in the options the default camera is smooth

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its related to chaseplane bridge module apparently

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normally its pretty consistent with its uptime, but occasionally it spikes to +/-50ms, and thats when the camera skips around

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i had to kill the flight because i was going to go insane from this camera

rustic charm
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Ah lovely, takeoff weight of 284 tons, the MTOW is 286 dogelul

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Love such takeoffs

dusty sky
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this 2

untold finch
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They'll be out of Lakenheath, not Mildenhall - the bases are pretty much right next to one another so it's just flightradar guessing

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But yeah, they go up pretty much every day other than weekends and holidays

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Unrestricted climbs on fridays too

dusty sky
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mach 1 ground speed is crazy

rustic charm
rustic charm
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Under 2 hours left

dusky leaf
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Following the NDB into Bella Bella

reef isle
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I need to get auto ortho back online and do some more GA Flying

rustic charm
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Almost in Moscow

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The more I fly this plane, the more I like it

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Amazing thing tbh

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Welp, could be worse

dusky leaf
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Wet Bella Bella

rustic charm
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It's nice going to an airport that you know how to approach exactly even without any charts

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Altitude restrictions, speed restrictions, I know it XD

dusty sky
reef isle
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the example below is a bad, but the actual meaning stands

rustic charm
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Always fun landing this thing

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Broke through the clouds early enough, around 2000 agl

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But the problem of me being just 2 knots below the normal 160kt limit on approach remained kekw

reef isle
dusty sky
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what is this warning?

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no master caution or anything it just appeared

rustic charm
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It's most likely just an advisory tbf

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Could be that the plane started automatically crossfeeding or moving fuel

reef isle
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I know nothing about the 747 sorry 😅

dusty sky
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all the stuff I found online were about the reserve tanks but those were empty the whole flight

rustic charm
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Does the 74 have fuel tank heating?

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In case not, quite likely it started recirculating cold fuel

dusty sky
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it does

rustic charm
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The 11 does that, I constantly get a mini heart attack when I'm just cruising normally and suddenly yellow "FUEL" pops up on the screen

dusty sky
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also finally seeing light after 7 hours

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oh I'm in the artic now

trail monolith
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Yeah that explains it lol

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Whatcha flying?

rustic charm
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Something that has 3 autopilots XD

dusty sky
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747-8

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tokyo to frankfurt

rustic charm
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The 747s actually are the only ones like that, right? All the other airliners have 2 APs

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Or even 1 in some cases tbf

dusky leaf
rustic charm
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"Or"?

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That's not an option

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With those 3

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You must use all of them XD

dusty sky
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at once

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why can't I put the camera down on the outside?

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I tried

rustic charm
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Press C and try again

dusty sky
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c doesn't do anything

rustic charm
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Still doesn't move?

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C is the keybind for switching between controlling the camera and the plane in external view

dusty sky
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every other axis works

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and it's fine in the cockpit

dusty sky
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and ofc that also means the 757 has 3 as well

rustic charm
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It does?

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Guess I haven't paid enough attention to the 767s in the end

dusty sky
rustic charm
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Fair

dusty sky
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I'm so far from the 80th parallel that I can't even see my plane on the screen anymore

hollow oracle
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how is it that literally every single flight sim on earth, its better if you use at least a controller

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but in war thunder, the meta is keyboard and mouse

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i got like 8 kills in tank mode with controller, so im absolutely cracked with that, but all i was able to do with flying was crash into the ground and then ragequit

trail monolith
reef isle
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with keyboard and mouse you can just tell the plane where you want to point the nose and let it do everything else for you

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aiming guns and dumb munitions is infitely easier in WT compared to any other flying game/sim for this very reason 😄

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If you notice, even the pro players still use keyboard and mouse, tapping w and s to fine tune their circle and speed managment and a/d to fine tune roll

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the only instance I've seen of good players using direct control was to go beyond the envelope (i.e. pull cobras and stuff)

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I don't play war thunder btw, I just enjoy watching war thunder content

rustic charm
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As someone who played war thunder

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Don't

reef isle
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not making that mistake ever again

rustic charm
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Ngl, I used to really enjoy tank battles on low ranks

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And by low ranks I mean literally just 1-2

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Soviet starter tanks, especially BT-5, are very overpowered

reef isle
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I'm sure it can be fun, but for my money's and mental health's sake I'm never ever going to play grind based free to play games

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Ace Combat's tech tree is as far as I'm willing to go kekw

rustic charm
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It literally drives somewhat like a sports car, reloads in an instant and manages to break any opposing tank

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But then rank 3 is decent, and on rank 4 you start simply grinding, not unlocking anything new, and the game becomes instantly so much harder

reef isle
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After 10 years I've got to a place in WoT where I'm sort of "post scarcity", I have enough tanks and they give away enough stuff that I can play 100% free to play and don't feel any kind of pressure to play to unlock X or get Y done

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and that's just because the devs have not been good enough at making the game misreable enough to force me to spend more money, only at that point it started to become actually fun

rustic charm
hollow oracle
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its kind of funny, war thunder is famous for its extreme accuracy, but you cant fly it like a flight simulator

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though, i guess thats kind of down to the playerbase, if you had an entire match with everyone on controller its probably significantly more balanced

reef isle
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but compared to DCS it has its advantages and disadvantages

hollow oracle
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im ripping absolute ass in tanks though, ive played 3 rounds without even taking damage

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aircraft not so much, ive gotten 0 hits and crashed 3 aircraft

reef isle
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I've heard suprisingly good things about WT Air SIm

But

reef isle
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WT Air Sim you're forced to cockpit view and you can't fly with keyboard and mouse

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it's very unfortunate that it's the one and only option to fly many planes 🫤

hollow oracle
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war thunder has a great controls setup (it just takes a while to figure it out), and you can "fly" it like a sim, but as far as combat goes you pretty much have to use keyboad + mouse if you want any sort of success

reef isle
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in Sim no

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because I think you can't

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Or if you can't it will be a rubbish experience, because you have direct control of the plane

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In this comprehensive guide on War thunder Sim, we will walk you through the essential steps to help beginners take to the skies confidently with a mouse and keyboard setup. From mastering flight controls to prioritizing safety, we'll provide you with the necessary knowledge for a smooth experience. Additionally, we'll delve into the intricacies...

▶ Play video
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you have a sort of "mouse yoke" (like FSX)

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that's definitely not competive against a good stick

hollow oracle
reef isle
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yes, sorry 😅

hollow oracle
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im still in the diaper baby game modes, ive had the game since 2016 but ive played like 10 minutes total

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im not at a high enough level yet to where i have to really grind, id like to unlock the B-17 because autism, but im just enjoying playing bideo james right now

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as a video game, i am indeed having fun

reef isle
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I wish my brain had the ability to function in this manner 😭

hollow oracle
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idk, i dont really get into the whole microtransactions thing until i really like a game

hollow oracle
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if DLC counts as microtransactions then i am not correct kekw

reef isle
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I meant more about the idea of just having fun without any other goal

dusty sky
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last time I played sim I used a 4.3 bomber at 9.3

rustic charm
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N E A T

rustic charm
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This kinda feels not real

rustic charm
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10 seconds later:

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Before anyone asks, it is, in fact, a real approach

reef isle
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Tivat?

rustic charm
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Decided to do it now because landing in that direction allowed better winds, even though in reality this approach is used very rarely

rustic charm
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Love that airport

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It kinda feels weird to not have been there last summer

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Parked up the best I can but in this airport it's the most challenging part XD

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I hope Ablomis and the dev he's working with (My guess is still JF) make good work of the 154 but don't take too much time, I kinda want to do this stuff

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So many Russian planes I want in this game 😭

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And half of them flew to Tivat at some point

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Also I probably need to get to grips with JF's F28, cause Montenegro Airlines had those

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Oh and just as I remembered that thing, there's an update to it dogelul

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Neat

trim harbor
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isnt that the oil aviation company thing

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tivat is an interesting destination for them

rustic charm
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I think they used to fly actual commercial flights

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But yeah Gazprom is the big oil/gas company

dusty sky
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after almost 8 hours of vatsim I'm at jfk

hollow oracle
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ive only ever done 1 flight in the A380, it still runs really bad on my new PC

dusty sky
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it runs like shit on mine as well

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but then again I'm playing 4K on a 3060

hollow oracle
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im playing 1080p on a 4070 myeyes

dusty sky
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Lmao

hollow oracle
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i kind of want to fly into houghton county airport, but the only aircraft that flies into there modern-day is CRJ-200s

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ive thought about learning the aerosoft CRJ, but even then that wouldnt be entirely accurate, the smallest they have for that is the 550

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ive thought about just doing the flight but with another regional aircraft, like an e-jet, but idk

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i really need to fly the aircraft i have even more, instead of constantly learning new ones

rustic charm
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What's the airport code

hollow oracle
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KCMX

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i wouldnt be against doing a DC-3 flight into there, but the only DC-3s that flew into KCMX were from KMQT, which is a defunct airport now

rustic charm
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Yeah, can't find anything other than a DC-3, a Saab 340 and some CRJ-200s

hollow oracle
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i actually did the CRJ-200 flight irl, outside of driving for actual days into northern michigan, flying is the only way in and out

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i havent flown the x-crafts e-jets ever since my landing gear collapsed that one time, so id like to try that out again

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that is by far my most expensive flight sim addon that i have purchased in one go, it was $120 for the full x-crafts pack ugly

trim harbor
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hope the md11 comes to msfs24 asap

trim harbor
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i like them

rustic charm
full plank
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no no don't mention them engines here

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FSL have yet to bring out theirs

rustic charm
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I just hate how PWs always get ignored

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MD-11: no PWs
A310: neither PW4000s nor JT9s which I'm pretty sure some had
A300: no PWs at first

hollow oracle
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plus the dev is cool, im signed up for his mailing list and its pretty cool

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oops

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nationwide alaskan airlines ground stop again

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it looks like skywest may be unaffected? at least at KSEA there's a skywest aircraft lined for departure right now

trail monolith
trim harbor
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i might have to install p3d or fsx

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for some a2a B377 or super connie

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
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nice, i forgot to update my e-jets before the flight

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so if i have a shitty landing, i have something to blame at least kekw

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i had a weird takeoff, my controls felt way too sensitive, plus the airport scenery i was using is outdated so the navigraph taxi charts werent accurate and i had to do a u-turn and some offroading

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im also trying out my first RNAV landing, though im not too intimidated because its a pretty modern aircraft

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horrible landing

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the aircraft decided it didnt want to follow VNAV or LNAV into the approach, so i had to fly it by hand, and then even though i had autothrottle on it didnt want to try and match speed either, so i was stalling out like 200yds from the runway threshold

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and then when i disabled autothrottle to give myself more throttle, i started gaining altitude and floating again, and of course when i cut the throttle to bring it back down, i land like a falling rock

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they even have a video on their youtube demonstrating an RNAV landing, and it is nothing like i saw in-game

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the aircraft decided to just stay at the same altitude and heading as the transition waypoint

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now im just going to be pissed off and trying to fall asleep, because i decided to do this right before bed

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
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It’s more of a mental thing

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First RNAV approach, in an aircraft I spent $120 for, that I’ve had constant issues with, that I haven’t flown in ages, and that I haven’t flown much at all

rustic charm
rustic charm
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It really doesn't want to climb

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Or accelerate

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I guess a full cargo load is heavy XD

rustic charm
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Beautiful thing, finally got it up to cruise

rustic charm
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Now that was moderately terrifying

reef isle
# rustic charm Now that was moderately terrifying

hahahahahah that reminds me of one time I flew the Tu-154 in Miami for a big VATSIM event, and it was pretty bad weather, at night so I spent a bunch of time totally IFR (outside the plane it was just black), and one of my friends on discord that was watching came out of the blue and asked "isn't that terrifying, flyin IFR with that plane, and VOR only?" kekw

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I was so focused that night that I didn't have the mental capacity to be scared kekw

rustic charm
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That must've been fun

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Can we have Tu-154 NOW

dusty sky
echo gorge
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Also actual imc ifr /a in unpressurised GA can get super scary (but a lot easier than in the tubes because of the lower speed)

rustic charm
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Tbh I love the flights that leave you no mental capacity to think of literally anything else

trim harbor
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thats what flyiong is all about tbh

rustic charm
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Indeed

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Wish I could do it irl XD

trim harbor
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flying isnt as fun anymore i feel

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well it still is but it's less hands on and overall abit less skill

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the dangerous airports are almost all gone and planes are really automated nowadays (which is good)

rustic charm
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Yeah

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No Kai Tak 😭

trim harbor
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kai tak bad weather at night must've been funny

rustic charm
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I just wish I could've been born in like 1965, become a pilot with FedEx, run DC-10s and MD-11s to Kai Tak

trim harbor
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born in the 40s and then pilot by the 60s

rustic charm
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Or with BA and do that in 747s

trim harbor
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fly some pan am shitters around

rustic charm
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In your prime on 707s and DC-8s

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Or Il-62s and Il-86s 🥹

trim harbor
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oh man

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il62s yum

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goddamn

rustic charm
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On the JF store they're slightly more expensive

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But you still get a discount on the other variant for owning one of them

trim harbor
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20% yup

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toobad the super 27 isnt free

rustic charm
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Well it's a shame yeah

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Still don't have it

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Tbh I think I should now stop buying planes and instead start getting a bit of hardware

trim harbor
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just wait till one plane that u like comes out

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smug

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JF PLEASE F70/100 :(((((((((

rustic charm
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L-1011, 747s, F70/100, A3B4...

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There are a lot that I like

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Though tbf

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JF and ini planes are hard to fly without hardware

trim harbor
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dont u have a joystick?

rustic charm
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Nope

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I have a grand total of nothing

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Keyboard warrior here

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Well, keyboard pilot

trim harbor
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jesus man

echo gorge
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I salute you

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That's not easy

rustic charm
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It really depends on the plane tbh

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PMDG/Fenix/TFDi fly very nicely

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With JF planes really the only problem is the tiller, the only way I can control the nosewheel on the 146 is though moving the handle in the cockpit with a mouse

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And ini planes are a bit less responsive to control inputs on keyboard and also have some weird nosewheel steering issues

rustic charm
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That's essentially why I haven't flown the 146 and the F28 at all

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I really need to sort my lack of hardware cause those planes are lovely

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F28 into Tivat...

trim harbor
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speaking of the a330 a few days ago

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bad luck

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i was looking forward to an a321 neo

rustic charm
reef isle
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You used WhiskeyThrottle's livery instead of mine 😭

dusty sky
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wait you make liveries?

rustic charm
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Just used the first one I saw

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I'll get yours then too XD

reef isle
reef isle
rustic charm
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Over Ireland now

hollow oracle
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speaking of liveries, my current project

trail monolith
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No bullets fly starts playing

hollow oracle
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that's another fucked up fact, the commemorative air force was the confederate air force up until 2001

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not like, it was a confederacy of museums or something, no it was literally the 1860-1865 confederate states of america

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with the flag and everything

reef isle
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welp

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downgraded from SU4 beta to SU3 and had my first MSFS2024 crash crabrave

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guess I'm going back to SU4 kekw

hollow oracle
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doing B-17 repaints is a lot of fun, you usually end up learning a ton of history while doing them

rustic charm
hollow oracle
rustic charm
hollow oracle
hollow oracle
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holy god the xcrafts ejets are horrible

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a departure from KLAX has you holding at 8000ft for a waypoint, and for some reason the aircraft does not handle autothrotle with that waypoint, so it levels off and then overspeeds

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ive adjusted my control curves way down too, and the aircraft still jolts all over the place even with the smallest inputs

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like, on takeoff, it was like binary, either i was pulling up extremely hard and skyrocketing to 20+ degrees ANU, or not enough to get off of the ground

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i think i actually slammed into the runway on takeoff because i deflected up so high that it scared me, and i moved the yoke back down and it caused me to drop again

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i think xcrafts forgot about XP11 users too, the weather radar for XP12 was just implemented recently, and the XP11 version is just bugged out now

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i love how i was fired at literally the most perfect time, to where i cant upgrade sims because theyre too expensive

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it's overshooting waypoints too

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
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though i dont know why the autothrottle wouldnt try to keep speed regardless

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you have to arm approach even on RNAV for the aircraft to go into glidepath/LNAV mode

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im guessing the aircraft kind of knows that its a programmed RNAV approach, and what the transition waypoint is, so if APP isnt armed when you cross that waypoint it thinks you're still just flying normally and that you don't want to be on approach yet

hollow oracle
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i dont know why boise idaho of all airports doesn't have an ILS approach, there are only VOR and RNAV approaches

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its literally flat and the runways are parallel to the mountains

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GOOD LANDING!!!

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i deadened the absolute shit out of my controls too, but now it feels pretty good to hand-fly, i think im on like 25% sensitivity and a wicked axis curve

full plank
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Holy waffle

dusty sky
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yesterday, for a period, bucharest became the busiest airport on vatsim

rustic charm
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Going back to Moscow from 'Frankfurt but not really'

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Again an almost full MD-11, it'll be a fun landing

trim harbor
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xplane looks great

trim harbor
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i am experiecing a heap of issues too with the vnav lol

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funny

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i wonder why though

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quite a weird issue

hollow oracle
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is that the payware one?

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i dont know much about e-jets, but i know that the top two right ones should be magenta if its controlled by the FMS

trim harbor
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the ap randomly switched frm LNAV /FLCH to ROLL/FLCH (green)

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upon reengagement it still continued its terroristic maneuvers

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funny plane

hollow oracle
#

yeah...

trim harbor
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also FMS speed to 1

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i dont think i've ever seen that in my life 💀

hollow oracle
#

the x-crafts e-jets is definitely the best representation of e-jets in any sim right now, but that doesnt make it good lol

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the FSS one is an extremely low bar

trim harbor
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they're good when they work

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toobad because their 727 is baller

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
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when xplane works, its phenomenal

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when it doesnt work, i would rather a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear

hollow oracle
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here's a question: on an RNAV approach, if you're misaligned with the runway, do you correct immediately, or can you stick with it for a bit to get to a lower altitude?

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i was quite misaligned, but i corrected pretty early and landed safely

reef isle
rustic charm
reef isle
rustic charm
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Yup

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Flying it to Gibraltar

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Might've not been the best idea to do it at night, my first flight there too XD

reef isle
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That livery was one of the biggest reasons why I bought the 319/321 expansion

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it's so cool

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I love it

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Now I only need the Trident 🥲

rustic charm
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Not even just the expansion

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The Fenix overall

reef isle
#

fair enough that's also really cool

rustic charm
#

I was walking home from driving school once, it was right nearby Vnukovo

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Saw a Rossiya A319 depart to St. Petersburg and fly right overhead

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Said "I want"

reef isle
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hahahahahaha that's really cool

rustic charm
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Next thing I know 80 quid down and I'm doing test/learning flights in Toulouse

reef isle
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that's how it always goes lol

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we (as in flight simmer) lack any form of self control

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hahahahhah

rustic charm
#

TRUE

reef isle
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I did the same with the 777-200, as soon as they dropped the Rainbow JAS livery on fs.to, I had the exact same thought process and suffered the same consequences kekw

rustic charm
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Saw a Rossiya 319
I want

Saw how AAL bare metal sits on widebodies
Now I have the MD-11 and I haven't even flown AAL apart from one delivery

Saw a video about the MD-80
Now I have the DC-9, a poor man's MD-80

reef isle
#

we're simple creatures

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hahahah

rustic charm
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I really need to fly the DC-9 more though

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Only 2 flights in it yet

reef isle
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yeah same

rustic charm
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Not a single complete delivery either

reef isle
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oh, did I give you my flight model?

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You can try it out if you'd like

rustic charm
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I think you did

reef isle
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it's not on fs.to because it's not really mine, it's mostly the MD-80 one

reef isle
#

I'd really like to figure out what causes the stupid wing flex though 😭

rustic charm
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Tbf the reason why I haven't flown the DC-9 is pretty much the same as why I don't fly the DC-6 that much - it does actually require a fair bit of action from you, not having any stanby navigation or anything...

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Oh yes, the DC-6...

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Saw Everts
Now I have the DC-6

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I have no idea how to land that thing either, every single one of my landings in it ended up in me sending it to maintenance kekw

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Uhh can anyone show how to engage VOR mode on teh 320

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(Please don't throw rocks at me for flying a modern plane by VORs, I have no idea how else to approach Gibraltar)

hollow oracle
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jesus, i was playing around with the C-47 a bit, and its insane how low they flew on paratrooper drop missions

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500ft AGL is the drop height, 1000-1500ft is "cruise", and 3000ft is the highest they went in the mission plan

rustic charm
#

Definitely could've been better but not bad for a first time and for a completely eyeballed approach in the dark

untold finch
hollow oracle
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for a second i thought that was illegal under the geneva convention, but its only illegal if its theyre parachuting from a disabled aircraft, you can shoot paratroopers because theyre deploying combat units

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so yeah, most likely

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also, i forgot that you can clear the cache in MSFS, so i did that and my game is running a lot better psa_smile

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i really wish the aeroplane heaven C-47 could get the duckworks DC-3 enhancement, because by default its borderline unflyable

untold finch
#

Shooting down bailed out pilots sadly did still happen in the war, there were some pilots like Adolf Galland who were famously against it, but it was a mercy rarely given

hollow oracle
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id like to do a DC-3 flight some day

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apparently its all dead reckoning, a max cruise of 5000-8500, and visually circling to land

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its like flying a GA aircraft, but instead its an unpressurized airliner

hollow oracle
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wtaf, this does NOT need to be fully modeled

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a 2D image would be perfectly fine there

hollow oracle
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i want to do a flight, but i dont know what aircraft or where to fly NOOO

trail monolith
#

Take a Long hauler if you have it

hollow oracle
#

Skurup?

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i really should probably do a long haul, i need to clean my room, and i could do that during cruise KirbDance

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shoPog i found a good flight

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US airways did A320 flights between philly and bermuda

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i still need to get used to flying the fenix with a controller now that my desk setup doesnt allow me to use the full airbus hardware anymore

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well, i could use it, but i really dont feel like figuring out a solution for something i would rarely use anyway

trail monolith
rustic charm
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Alright, did a passenger flight once yesterday, time to go back to freight

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Destination: Hong Kong

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That was a fun takeoff XD

rustic charm
rustic charm
#

Less than 2 hours to go

rustic charm
rustic charm
#

Oh flying into default airports is fun...

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VHHH by default has no current 07L/25R

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It only has 07R/25L and 07L/25R (current 07C/25C)

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But well, not having a runway is fine, they were landing centre right now anyway

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But when choosing the approach in the FMC, I obviously don't have an for 07C, cause the game doesn't have that runway - in its mind it's 07L

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So I just select the 07L approach and fly normally, thinking that well, considering it has no actual 07L, and the game thinks that 07C is 07L, it should take me to the correct runway

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Wrong, both the LNAV and the ILS align me with the modern day 07L

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Which, ahem

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Does not exist

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Good thing I had perfect visibility so I just flew it down manually

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Now if this was a 0 viz situation and I were doing an autoland...

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Well the plane would've flared normally, except there'd be no runway

alpine coral
hollow oracle
#

you really have to trust your gauges sometimes elmo_fire

hollow oracle
#

wow, that is extremely strange

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europe only does regional airlines duing the day?

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right now there are 0 e-jets over europe, but just a handful of hours ago it was almost full of e-jets

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nevermind, the united states is the same, all of the e-jets dissapear at night, weird

rustic charm
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Narita doesn't have the taxiway that connects the shorter runway, you literally have to go off road

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Memphis by default misses the bridges over the road

#

Sheremetyevo's missing Terminal C...

hollow oracle
#

RKSI doesn’t exist by default

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Which is annoying, considering it’s the largest airport in South Korea

rustic charm
#

It does

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I've flown into it not too long ago

hollow oracle
#

In 2020 or 2024?

rustic charm
#

2020

hollow oracle
#

I might have missed a world update then

rustic charm
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I don't think I've installed any mods for it

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Yeah, there aren't any even I think

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I don't think it's part of a world update either?

hollow oracle
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Aw man :(

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Today was the last ever Hawaiian callsign flight

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From now on, it’s all Alaska callsigns and codes

rustic charm
#

Just wings and the tail, no fuselage XD

#

On my way from Hong Kong to Karaganda, just under an hour until I start descending

rustic charm
#

Descending, the fuselage still is nowhere to be seen

rustic charm
#

Everything's pitch black

dusty sky
#

so yeah that flight went well

trail monolith
#

It was feeling green

hollow oracle
#

makes me realize that even though im pretty okay at flying in a simulator, i still am not cut out to be a real pilot

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some day id like to do a discovery flight just to say ive flown in a GA aircraft, but i have no interest in getting a PPL either

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
agile oak
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rip the old one

#

F

dusty sky
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Just unplug the flight stick for a millisecond and it just dies

runic hare
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The bug is incredibly hard to uncatch

rustic charm
#

Wish I had the money to fly irl

#

Just $182k and I can have an ATPL... meanwhile for 150-170 you can buy an apartment

runic hare
#

In the uk we are lucky to have a really decent modular pathway

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Give or take £55k-£80k depending on how fast you wanna do it

rustic charm
rustic charm
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Plus I think academies offer scholarships?

runic hare
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Nope

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Not here

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Airline do recruitment but that’s like 20000 applicants and 20 people get in per year

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Ryanair do it but it’s a down payment of €30000

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And you have to live in cork for 2 years

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Shithole

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If you want to do an integrated course with a school it’s between £110k-£150k

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Financing will cover half that cost

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But at the end of that there is no guarantee of a job

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So if after 6 months you don’t have something your ATPL expires

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Modular is way better but it’s also way more work because you can work at your own pace and you can do the final licences when airlines are accepting applicants for positions as FO’s

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You also aren’t tied down to an airline

rustic charm
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Fair, sounds like it's much better indeed

#

How does it even work?

reef isle
#

Transferring to a dispersion field

untold finch
#

Vulcan is the first thing I am installing when I get back into flightsimming

echo gorge
#

They really did knock it out of the park

runic hare
# rustic charm How does it even work?

Get PPL, train for CPL and do the exams yourself, then train for ATPL and do that all yourself and then you can either get a type rating yourself or go to an airline like Ryanair or EasyJet who will pay for a 737/320 type rating for you

rustic charm
#

You can just train yourself for CPL and ATPL?

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Cause if so I'll really have to think of gettingn a PPL and then doing that

dusty sky
#

it looks way better in the actual game

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discord compresion

runic hare
#

The exams are expensive as is hour building

dusty sky
mint whale
#

a group of people told me to put my photos here because they didnt like the fact that i put it in the "wrong channel" however

trail monolith
#

Ah public transport

trail monolith
mint whale
#

im headed to bratislava

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from dalaman

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got another hour left before arrival

rustic charm
#

All done!

mint whale
#

same here! all done for today, will be back tomorrow after an adventure break

hollow oracle
hollow oracle
#

ALERTA ITS NAVIGRAPH CYCLE UPDATE DAYALERTA

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AAAA PANIC

hollow oracle
#

how do they even do this irl on an entire fleet of aircraft

#

is it downloaded wirlessly or are they still using physical media to do it

dusty sky
#

I don't even have a navigraph subscription so I get SID's that no longer exist

rustic charm
dusty sky
#

Wdym AIRAC 2511, I'm still on 2403 💀

hollow oracle
#

goes so hard

dusty sky
#

AC-130 is legendary

untold finch
#

Iunno, the AC-130 definitely epitomises the "fighting the last war" problem for me
It's great against a bunch of goat herders who have an SKS or an AKM, but there's a reason they only flew at night in incredibly low-threat environments

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A standard C-130J with the rapid dragon standoff cruise missile system is a much more capable strike platform these days

hollow oracle
#

every time i encounter a problem that could be solved by upgrading to XP12, i think about the guy in the xplane server said that i was financially irresponsible, and that xplane was the cost of a few lunches, and if i just saved up for a week i could afford to buy it

untold finch
#

Yeesh

#

Simboomers gonna simboom

hollow oracle
#

im not going to deny the finanically irresponsible part, but regardless, that is an insanely shitty take

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ill try to find his original message later

rustic charm
#

Like, as far as I know a 737/320 would even be able to fly further, faster and higher while carrying a higher payload

rustic charm
#

This plane is going to Tahiti

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That was a scary takeoff roll

mint whale
#

gonna do an overnight flight today on the a350 again

#

this time im gonna do heathrow to phoenix

dusty sky
#

I'm finally doing manchester to toronto

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best time as well cuz oceanic is online

rustic charm
#

Almost in Tahiti

dusty sky
rustic charm
hollow oracle
#

today marks exactly 1 year since the FBW A380X released

rustic charm
#

Dutch is happy

dusty sky
#

what the hell is default toronto, the runway lights are floating like cmon man sadcat

rustic charm
#

Get used to it, that's defaults for you XD

dusty sky
#

but it's never been that bad before

rustic charm
#

Sooo many of them are awful

#

And in big airports it's even more evident

dusty sky
#

only modded airport I have is belgrad but I haven't flown there

#

what's a good freeware scenery mod for toronto

rustic charm
#

And this btw is why the point of "Well MSFS made the whole world automatically" that people make in regards to TSW/TSC/whatever other train sim is completely invalid XD

rustic charm
dusty sky
#

aren't the airports actually hand crafted?

rustic charm
#

Oh no

#

I mean, a few are

#

Those that are specifically mentioned in deluxe/premium editions

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Plus those from world updates

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Although most of the time even those hand-crafted ones are not too amazing

#

But 99.999% of them are autogenerated from whatever data was available to Microsoft at the time

#

That's why we get missing airports (Istanbul... literally one of the biggest world hubs), missing bits (Missing runway at VHHH, missing taxiways in RJAA and KMEM, missing terminal C stands at UUEE, and those are just the ones that I remember off the top of my head) and things that do exist but are a total mess (CYOW is, also I've seen someplace where the taxi markings were all over the place but don't remember where exactly it was)

hollow oracle
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EGLL looks fun to fly into right now

hollow oracle
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i was like, "oh itll be cute to do an A380 flight on its one-year anniversary", and its still as laggy as it ever was

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there is a reason why i was only able to do 1 flight with the A380 in a year since it released

runic hare
hollow oracle
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they should put VATSIM controllers in charge of US airspace now that we're losing controllers like crazy because they arent being paid kekw

echo gorge
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When the controller tells you to disconnect irl realdoge

hollow oracle
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genuinely how is it possible that the A380X performs this bad, not even the inibuilds a350 performs nearly as bad as the a380

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it might be better when you get into the air, and i am in inibuilds dubai, but the lag spikes are pain

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still no takeoff calculator too?

hollow oracle
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i was curious what flying with FSLTL would be like in the A380, and it almost took my entire PC down with it kekw

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and don't take my criticisms for ungratefulness, i am very happy that it exists, and im very thankful that it's free and open source, but it also just runs pretty awful

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we're flying i guess, i'll see how this goes

hollow oracle
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i love seeing all of those closed airports due to staffing

hollow oracle
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going through and looking at recent landings for EGLL on volanta, and all 3 have veered off of the runway

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in an A350, 777, and A320

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currently at 19kts of crosswind

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and im coming in an A380

hollow oracle
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fuck it, we ball

hollow oracle
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shitty weather indeed, but we made it

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i did almost veer off the runway, and it wasnt smooth, but considering its an A380 in a stiff crosswind and low visibility, ill allow it

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if all porkchops were perfect, we wouldnt have hot dogs

nimble sphinx
rustic charm
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Welp

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I guess it's time for another plane endurance test

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Hawaiian used to have DC-9s, including DC-9-10s, and I wanna deliver one

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And even LA to Hawaii would be cutting it very close for that plane dogelul

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In fact I think even empty it can't make it

trim harbor
rustic charm
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Oh definitely, there's no other way they could make it

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Can't do that in MSFS though kekw

rustic charm
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Also well, no instrumentation or any kind of standby nav, heading mode for 6 hours... this is going to involve a lot of math

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Soooo...

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But that's calculated based on a DC-9-30 profile, so I'll burn a bit less in cruise in reality

rustic charm
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I think I can rightfully be scared

rustic charm
reef isle
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Pure dead reckoning

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I think I used an online plotter to do some of the math

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And it worked out quite well, but it was a shorter flight than what you want to do

rustic charm
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My flight plan XD

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Best part is

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I don't even have a wind or ground speed indication

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I'll have to calculate all of those too lol

reef isle
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I can't find it now 😭

rustic charm
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Welp, my first and final mainland VOR behind me now, now it begins

reef isle
rustic charm
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Thanks

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Tbh I do kinda want to try to do it myself too

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Cause it's useful stuff to know

reef isle
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in that case you can use this kekw

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I think at school we never did it using math

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it was always either graphically (scale drawing and measuring) and then with the plotter

rustic charm
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Fair

reef isle
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but cool that you want to do it yourself

rustic charm
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Well hopefully in 5 hours I'll be in Hawaii