Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[hollow oracle]

At least from my experience, buggy to the point of being unflyable

I don’t know if the XP12 version is any better, but I was on the latest version of the sparky in XP11

[dusty sky]

I can't start it

probably doing something wrong but idk what

or it could just be broken idk

like the gear lever is stuck in off

no clue if that's a problem just cuz it's on the ground

[hollow oracle]

It is extremely picky about the conditions you start it up in

Make sure your fuel set up is accurate, your startup setup is accurate, everything has to be correct for the engines to start

[dusty sky]

.

ok yeah I'm cooked

is it even possible to get an ASU with it

can the 747 even use an ASU?

ok yeah no the gear lever is straight up stuck in the off position

[hollow oracle]

Are you in XP11 or XP12?

[dusty sky]

11

like when I pull it out of the off position the lever just pulls itself back in

[hollow oracle]

That might be why, I’m on XP11 too and I’ve had the same issues your having

The XP12 version might be working, which is why some people say it’s good, I don’t know

[dusty sky]

alr so I more or less had to force the gear up by holding the gear lever

[runic hare]

dont use latest XP11 @hollow oracle @dusty sky use the version before

when I was on 11 that was what I was using and from what I recall it worked a hell of alot better than the newest version

[dusty sky]

xp itself or the 744?

[rustic charm]

BA babybus 🫀

[dusty sky]

thing is I'm using the steam version so I kinda can't do that

[runic hare]

the 744

i can't type

[dusty sky]

cool

[runic hare]

not gonna say its gonna fix everything but if my memory serves me right then thats the version you want to use

all other versions are ports from XP12 > XP11 so are buggy asf

[dusty sky]

uh

where do I get the previous version?

[runic hare]

https://github.com/mSparks43/747-400/releases

you want this one

I think

[dusty sky]

if it works I'm doing schipol to princess juliana

wait did 747-200's operate at princess juliana?

[trail monolith]

747-228BM did

[dusty sky]

oooo

[trail monolith]

Is that what you're searching for?

[runic hare]

https://flightsimdispatch.com/

use this

very very very good tool

[dusty sky]

ok so the landing gear lever issue was fixed

acceleration still feels really slow

I still don't know what's up with the brakes

like

I wasn't pressing on them and the parking brake was off but I have brake temp and I blew tires

[dusty sky]

I'd love to actually have the 747-200

[hollow oracle]

I think I tried that, but it still had issues with VNAV

[trim harbor]

@runic hare

did u ever fly business long haul somewhere

[runic hare]

Yo

[trim harbor]

is it worth the upgrade

[runic hare]

Oh

No never

[trim harbor]

i have the option to upgrade (for miles) on LEJ-FRA-PEK-HND

[runic hare]

The full route?

[trim harbor]

FRA-HND only, LEJ is operated under a diff carrier

[runic hare]

Ahhhhh

Depends

[trim harbor]

im skeptical because its goddamn air china

[runic hare]

Idk if air china business is gonna be any good

That’s the thing

It might be awful

[trim harbor]

i could fly direct with ANA for 900 bucks

but spending 400 more seems usless

[runic hare]

If it was with Lufthansa or SAS then I would say yeah do it but idk if air china is worth the miles

[runic hare]

Plus Beijing capital is cool

It’s only 4h 10 min

[trim harbor]

theres the option for a 1.25hr layover too

but thats super risky

[trim harbor]

ye

jesus christ lol

[hollow oracle]

it was so bad, that i (literally) dusted off my copy of the PMDG 747-400 for FSX to fly some 744s

[hollow oracle]

i cant reccomend FSdispatch highly enough, its my go-to when flight planning now

that, and just searching up flights on flightradar

[hollow oracle]

that's a bummer, no modern RKSI scenery for FSX

its only versions missing the new terminal

it doesnt really matter i guess, i just cant use the new terminal, everything else is accurate

[hollow oracle]

it is worth every penny, even off-sale

especially if you like (and know how to fly) old airliners

it's definitely not the easiest aircraft to learn, but it is extremely fun

[hollow oracle]

the IXEG is so pretty

[hollow oracle]

landed the flight, unfortunately i had to can the flight because the autopilot bugged out

unfortunately i dont think im going to get tech support for an aircraft thats almost 18 years old, so i might need to do some trial and error

[trail monolith]

Can't you fly manually otherwise? Sure it might be a pain in the *** but yeah

[hollow oracle]

I guess, or heading mode

I asked on the avsim forums, hopefully it’s something easy I missed

[rustic charm]

Overflying Guatemala, can't even post a screenshot because it's literally pitch black

Approximately 8 hours left

[rustic charm]

I will admit, I got really scared

Come back to the plane, and all I see out of the cockpit is bloo

I thought I was over an ocean, and I am not at all supposed to be over an ocean

But turns out that's just the way South America looks in MSFS from 41k

[rustic charm]

An hour left!

[rustic charm]

On descent now

[rustic charm]

Another delivery done

Honestly I may not be the biggest fan of TFDi for keeping the ER to preorders, and I sure am annoyed by the fact we don't yet have PW4400s cause that limits the available airlines a fair bit, but I do love the MD-11

[trim harbor]

Decided to go doe it

For

Hope I wont regret it

Flying eco and hoping for a biz upgrade at the counter

[trim harbor]

220 euros for a 30 min domestic flight

i hate lufthansa so much

[dusty sky]

Uh

Ryanair?

Or wizz if you don't want hell but for a bit of a higher price

If you're in Europe

Also does anyone know if chartfox is owned by vatsim?

[trim harbor]

frankfurt - leipzig isnt operated by anyone but lufthansa

[dusty sky]

Oh

Then uh

Isk

Idk

I was gonna say train but DB

[runic hare]

train

just get one that arrives at frankfurt airport 6h before the flight

[trim harbor]

i really dont trust db

maybe thats an L from me

[runic hare]

if you do that you should have about 2h at the airport

[trim harbor]

im doing a 9.45 am arrival in frankfurt and an onwards flight of 2.40p to peking

should be alright

[dusty sky]

The wait for the train is gonna be longer than the whole flight with screening and all

[trim harbor]

Fr

Gonna be a shitty day with 3 flights

[rustic charm]

It’s DB, would be delayed for around 4 years

[trim harbor]

it's this and plus

the ride is about 4 or 5 hours long

with at most 3 trains per day

im not risking that

[rustic charm]

Weird how I keep going between old non-Boeing widebodies for some reason

But the A310 is cute

But every time I load the A310 I get so angry that we don't have PWs

[rustic charm]

Tbh the ini 310 is a bit weird

The nosewheel steering on keyboard is very quirky

And also this time it decided to idle the engines automatically 30ft above ground and for some reason that loss of power seriously slowed down the plane and it basically dropped

Like, I was at 120kts at 30ft, I didn’t float or anything (in fact the opposite, that was a slam) and touched down at 100, while expected would be 115-ish

[runic hare]

These boxes are probably older than about 80% of people in this server

Old continental logo as well

So it’s pre “Continental Globe”

[reef isle]

That's really old

Meatball era?

Haven't checked but I believe that'd be 1990s or earlier

[runic hare]

Probably

Yeah

The Sabena one is at latest 2002

I have seen “SN Brussels Airlines” boxes as well

But the continental one is wild

[reef isle]

Yeah for sure

Yeah probably very early 90s or late 80s

[runic hare]

These two are pretty good as well

JetBlue atlas boxes from a Spanish barset on a Ryanair aircraft

[hollow oracle]

Update: I think I have found out what the issue is, it seems like the aircraft occasionally bugs out and tries to follow the heading for a few seconds before turning back to the flight path

It’s especially bad in areas with tight turns and waypoints in quick succession, the only real fix is to keep changing the heading knob to follow the LNAV path, so if it does go crazy, it isn’t super far off

[agile oak]

Can confirm

The A310 is pretty fucking awesome

[rustic charm]

I am flying to Schipol

Tried to stay away from there for as long as possible

But this livery is actually nice, and I do need more MD-11s

Now since obviously it's Schipol, guess which runway is planned as arrival. Is it:
A) 18R
B) 18R
C) 18R

[full plank]

Unsure, think its 18R

[rustic charm]

Correct, it's 18R....

[agile oak]

MD-11 my beloved

[rustic charm]

6 hours in, over the Atlantic now

[rustic charm]

8 hours in, 2 to go

[rustic charm]

Descending now

And of course

It's still 18R

So yeah, time for me to experience this awful place

[rustic charm]

Have I mentioned that I hate Schipol

[dusty sky]

I mean

I've never actually taxied to/from that runway so idk how it's like

I've only ever used 09

[dusky leaf]

How is the CSS 737? Still too early access?

[reef isle]

all things considered it's not too bad

but yeah...

it's not as bad as Barcelona or some US airports

[trim harbor]

apparently getting better

their updating it bi-weekly i think

[tired pond]

Yeah I'm keeping a good eye on it

[rustic charm]

Tbh on release it wasn't bad imo to begin with, but they are updating it quite often, fixing bugs and stuff

I think they added eyebrow windows and winglets not too long ago

Admittedly I haven't renewed it after getting the one-month subscription, but that's more so because I don't really know what to even do with the -500. I mostly need -300 and -400 freighters (plus -400 Combi for Alaska, I really really hope they'll do it)

[rustic charm]

Well, tbh it's the worst airport I've flown into in the sim

Of course that's because I absolutely refuse to do anything that would involve LTFM

[reef isle]

Ah yeah the default scenery is bad

[rustic charm]

Cause LTFM will always from me take the crown as the single worst airport ever, in the whole world

There is a separate, reserved spot for LTFM at the top of the list of the airports I hate

Any other airport tries to take it - "Nope, sorry, this is a reservation for Istanbul International"

[rustic charm]

Tbf I did download some enhancements beforehand

And it's not even as much about it being default scenery as about 18R

[balmy forge]

https://www.flythemaddog.com/site/msfs/

https://contrail.shop/products/flightsim-studio-727-200-passenger-msfs

Anyone have these two? If so, what's your opinions?

[trim harbor]

727 is good

I love it

[rustic charm]

727 is great, I second that

Quite a few liveries too

And liveries are being actively made

Also, FSS was planning to release the Super27 expansion this year too (newer avionics, more powerful engines)

And that'll be an expansion, so you'll have to own either passenger or the freighter

[rustic charm]

I've heard great things about the Maddog simulation-wise, but it's not that good in terms of modelling and texturing. I've also heard some complaints about the sounds. But I can't say anything for sure, don't have it. Definitely close to the top of my purchase list though

[hollow oracle]

the 727 is good, but very tempermental to fly, i would personally suggest the MD-80, much more forgiving and fun to fly

[balmy forge]

Is that quite prototypical of the 727s, or more that it is buggy?

[rustic charm]

Well, the 727 definitely isn't very forgiving, I can second that. Fun, idk, can't compare. But it's not an easy bird

[rustic charm]

Personally I haven't really encountered any game-breaking bugs in it, apart from once me just teleporting underground from 37k ft, but I think that was an MSFS thing and not a 727 thing. Anyway, I'd say it's more so prototypical. The 727 is made for 3 pilots, you'll be taking it to the skies alone most likely. It's easy to forget things. And the fact that of course it doesn't really have any flight computers only adds to that

[balmy forge]

So what you're saying is that the 727 is not a logical second plane after the Cesna?

[rustic charm]

Well

Really the only difference between them is that the 727 has 2 more engines

Other than that, same thing basically

[hollow oracle]

I would say it’s quite prototypical, being an older aircraft, there is a lot of quick thinking and general aviation sense involved in flying it, unlike other aircraft

If your only other experience is a Cessna, I would recommend a more popular aircraft like the fenix or PMDG 737, once you learn the magenta line and everything, it’s a little bit easier to take pieces of it away and learn their older counterparts

[rustic charm]

My first plane was the 738

Not even after the cessna

Just the first

But

I would recommend taking the A320 as that much more

[balmy forge]

I'm pro though obviously

[rustic charm]

Oh, FS24?

[balmy forge]

Yup

[rustic charm]

Then I think 737s aren't even an option

[hollow oracle]

I think the ifly max 8 works well enough in 24? I think the PMDGs work too but they don’t have any new features

[rustic charm]

Well I meant the PMDGs, I think they're not 24-compatible at all

[hollow oracle]

The fenix A320 is what I learned to fly on, Airbus logic is very easy to learn and understand, and it is 24 compatible now

[rustic charm]

^^

The A320 is a perfect plane basically

I refused to fly one for over a year

Then finally got it around a month ago

And after 1 flight said that it should be the standard for an airplane

[hollow oracle]

The A320 is very forgiving too, because it’s a flying computer, it can’t put itself in a dangerous situation, it won’t even let the pilot put it into a dangerous situation

[rustic charm]

Well, it will do its best to prevent the dangerous situation

It's not like it'll completely stop you from doing anything dangerous

But it has things like flight envelope protection, so it won't let you pitch and roll further than set limits, so stalling it is pretty much impossible

[hollow oracle]

Ive definitely stalled the 727 way more times than the A320, that’s for sure

[rustic charm]

Yeah, the 727 can basically stall itself

And I mean that literally

It can stall while being fully in autopilot if you ask it to do more than it can

[hollow oracle]

I don’t think the stick shaker activates on an approach stall too? It’ll just fall out, or autopilot will try to pitch the nose up too high until it can’t keep up

[rustic charm]

Actually I don't even remember

It must have a stick shaker, right

But at the same time, I don't think I've ever heard it in the 727

[echo gorge]

I adore the maddog

It's got some rough spots but is really lovely imo

[rustic charm]

I gotta get it at some point

I just wish they did the freighters

Cause Everts flies MD-83 freighters

[hollow oracle]

my biggest issue with the maddog is that right click is used to move some controls, including the landing gear

so you REALLY have to make sure your mouse isnt over the landing gear on accident before you right click to move the camera

[reef isle]

I have the maddog. It's really cool but overpriced, you also very definitely need a sound pack for it as well, the sounds it comes with are beyond terrible

If the MD-82 was between 60-70€ I could wholeheartedly recommend it, for 90€, it's a bit harder to do so

In terms of soundpack the cheapest option is to subscribe to FTsim for 1 month and download the pack, then unsubscribe

https://www.patreon.com/FTSIM

But, if you're happy to spend more this is better (as far as I've been told)

https://orbxdirect.com/product/immersive-audio-maddogx-msfs

And you really need one of these. As I said, the default sounds are genuinely awful, the FTsim pack for the MD82 is the only soundpack I've ever owned on any flight sim

Systems and flight model are excellent, texture/3D less so, but acceptable, and there is an update on the way that will help on that front, sound I already told you. It's unfortunate that they priced it like that

[dusty sky]

Y'all posting about these great msfs add-ons is just making me cry that I can't play msfs

[tired pond]

The issue they had is they were first

They went with P3D pricing whereas everyone else afterwards tested a new pricing model

And if you change the pricing you'll then piss off all existing

[rustic charm]

That's true

Also VAT adds like 30 euros to the price

[tired pond]

Rip

[balmy forge]

I didn't realise the price of the Maddog, that's at least made the decision easier. I'll pick up the Fenix and the 727

Has anyone used Onair?

[dusty sky]

hey can someone help me out with vatsim

[reef isle]

It depends

But I can try

[dusty sky]

hold up I'm following tutorial

[reef isle]

Cool, feel free to ping me if you need something

[rustic charm]

Welp, found some airport sceneries for Russia... it's such a shame there isn't much high quality stuff

How do we still not have Vladivostok 😭

[reef isle]

speaking of Russian AIrports, I've found quite a few missing airpots from both Xplane11 and MSFS

have you found any?

on the VatRUS website the only scenery is for FSX

[rustic charm]

Which ones?

Tbh if it's not on VATRUS it might well be missing

[reef isle]

It was a long time ago, but I found 3 or 4

to be fair they were quite rural

one was definitely closed

[rustic charm]

Yeah rural stuff might not exist

I know some airports even in the US don't exist by default

I think Unalakleet is one

[rustic charm]

Tbf if I show you my Volanta you'll probably be surprised as to how little I've flown domestically in Russia

I've been to a total of 9 airports in Russia, 3 of them are in Moscow lol

[reef isle]

hah fair enough 😅

Those were all Yak-40 flights from the '80s from Krasnoyarsk IIRC

[rustic charm]

Well, Yak-40... that means it could be pretty much any airport, that thing has basically the same landing capabilities as a DC-3 XD

[tired pond]

https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/31909-inibuilds-a340-airliner-systems-development-update-2/

[dusky leaf]

For vatsim make sure you can fly your aircraft - fly a holding pattern, route direct to a point not on your flight plan and can use current real world procedures you are good.

[trim harbor]

so happy for a eis1

[rustic charm]

Wish it wasn't 24-only

[trail monolith]

Just upgrade from 20 to 24 instead

[rustic charm]

Really other than 3 planes there is no reason for me to upgrade

A343, B707 and B747 are the upcoming 24-only stuff

If we disregard them and just look at pros and cons of upgrading to 24... I don't see any significant pros

Pay 1.5 times what RDR2 costs in order to admittedly get better graphics, although 2020 ones are absolutely enough for me. Then you get worse performance too. And not all planes are available in 2024 either, and with some you need to pay for upgrades. Who knows how many bugs there still are and how many airports will break in 2024

[rustic charm]

Welp, setting up to repeat last weekend now, a full milk run, in real time, except this time in a group flight with a friend

[rustic charm]

The weather in Wrangell is way below minimums, will have to wait on the ground at Ketchikan until it improves

[dusky leaf]

Im happy to “god mode” the weather. I just change the bit that is stopping me.

But a lot of folk not happy to do that

[rustic charm]

Oh I don't mind waiting a bit

Plus I forgot about daylight savings again

Thankfully my friend reminded me

But the scheduled departure is only in 10 minutes

Who even came up with daylight savings

And pushing back now

The METAR wasn't yet updated, but the flight irl is going so we should be good

[rustic charm]

Things you don't wanna see out of a plane window part 1

[hollow oracle]

ive done that before

funnily enough, ive done that in ireland of all places

probably the flattest country on earth and i almost managed to crash it in IFR conditions

[trail monolith]

Isn't the flattest holland?

[rustic charm]

Yeah that would be the flattest and the lowest

Looking at the charts for Schipol... "Runway elevation: -17"

[rustic charm]

And just landed at Petersburg

Sorry for my lack of GSX and that annoying pushback tug, it's a no-pushback stand...

[dusky leaf]

Great area to fly, Im a regular round there

[rustic charm]

Yeah, it's amazing

My mainstay lol

[rustic charm]

Juneau done

47 minutes until the departure to Anchorage

[rustic charm]

The final leg

[rustic charm]

Aaand done

Real-time ASA65

With full ground times too

[tired pond]

Worse performance?

I'm getting better

[rustic charm]

Seriously?

[runic hare]

From what I’ve heard it the same as XP11-XP12

It’s a wild difference

[tired pond]

Yeah, the memory leak in longer flights needs fixing but yeah I'm getting better performance

I can run with BATC traffic at KJFK with the Fenix

[runic hare]

Some people with 3090TI’s and a like 5k pc have worse performance than me on a 3080 and a banged up Ryzen 7

[tired pond]

3080TI here

[rustic charm]

Yeah tbh it might be really different for hardware

[runic hare]

It’s really weird that both sims have the same issues

[rustic charm]

Tbh me being with a laptop, even a beefy one, the limiting factor will always be the heating

[runic hare]

Regarding performance

[tired pond]

VRAM is the main issue

If you don't have more than 8GB don't go over

[rustic charm]

Welp, that I don’t

I’ve got 8GB

I’ll have to move over eventually anyway

Cause I can live without either an A343, all 747s or a 707, but not without all of those

[tired pond]

I generally use 6GB for 1440p

about 6.5

[runic hare]

I was using my full 8GB on MSFS2020 ultra and XP11 but for some reason coming over to XP12 it just decided to run at a steady 6GB under load

But I have no clue why

[tired pond]

lmao

[runic hare]

But some people say it’s worse performance despite the fact I have fewer stutters and drops in performance

Also runs at a steady 40-60 depending on the aircraft and scenery

[runic hare]

There is another leak in the crew room ceiling

Ffs

It stinks of damp in here

[rustic charm]

Which other plane will let you take off with flaps 17 and still require a rotation speed of 162 knots

First time I'm flying it loaded too, so can't wait to do something close to mach 1 on approach

[reef isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Borf-Nu2W3Q

Our first public appeareance at an airshow

[rustic charm]

Just over an hour to Princess Juliana now

[dusky leaf]

New F33

[rustic charm]

Starting another delivery, an Aurora 319

Back in the cute plane

[rustic charm]

Over Russia already, soon will start descending into Moscow

To be honest if I pushed it a bit I would've probably been able to do it in 2 legs, Hamburg - Novosibirsk - Khabarovsk

But since I set up for Moscow, it's gonna be Hamburg - Moscow - Krasnoyarsk - Habarovsk I reckon

Descending now

[rustic charm]

Doing 114kts on approach. Established early too. By the schedule, a 777-300ER and an A330-300 should be right behind me. The ATC is either crying or packing up to quit.

This is the first landing during which I didn't have to use either reversers or brakes

Literally just spoilers

[untold finch]

Almost looks like sector 3 at COTA lol

[rustic charm]

Tbf That not a normal Moscow approach, I gave myself a bunch of delay vectors

Wanted to not exceed -1200fpm

But it looks quite realistic for Moscow lol

[dusty sky]

Ok so from what I understand the CIVA is actually pretty simple

Like you just input coordinates instead of waypoints basically

[rustic charm]

Yeah

It’s very simple

You have several slots for waypoints, you just input coordinates directly

Normally it will automatically cycle through them

Once it reaches the last activated waypoint (so either the 9th if all slots are filled, or whichever one is the last non-0 waypoint) and passes it, just turns back towards the very first one

[hollow oracle]

It’s actually kind of awesome in that you can input custom waypoints that way too

And if your doing an oceanic route, the waypoint names are traditionally just the coordinates, which makes it even easier

[glossy kraken]

People still play FSX? 😂

[trail monolith]

Sadly not although i miss the missions system

[rustic charm]

Leg 2, Moscow to Krasnoyarsk

[rustic charm]

Also at least I found some sceneries

Ngl, I really forced myself to just dig through and find some freeware that would look remotely good, otherwise I wouldn’t be delivering this plane at all

But now will at least be able to do flights between Khabarovsk, Vladivostok and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk

I mean, if I go for pre-Covid (and obviously pre-2022) timetable, can even do flights to Sapporo and Tokyo cause I think Aurora did those

Then at some point once I buy it, I can deliver the CSS 735. A Classic would be able to make it from Anchorage to Vladivostok empty I’m pretty sure, so that delivery would even be simpler

[rustic charm]

Yeah I'm not sure what happened here

Why could the plane have turned away and started descending

Time to restart I guess

[hollow oracle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1uX1V2wlKo8

[dusky leaf]

Ferrying my new F33 from WA to BC KBLI next stop

[hollow oracle]

that reminds me, i did a little scoot in the A2A comanche last night

i'm an A2A fanboy now, their accu-sim stuff is literally second to none, both FSX and MSFS

it literally physically simulates each engine cylinder

the part I struggle with the most with GA flying is flight plans, there is literally so many options I have no idea where i want to fly

[rustic charm]

Just pick whatever seems the most interesting at the time

GA means you'll basically have no limits

You can land pretty much anywhere

I guess the only thing off limits would be some big airports, like Heathrow, cause no way a GA plane is getting a slot there

That said, those would be still quite rare, cause even LaGuardia accepts GA planes

[hollow oracle]

that's the weird part, because your range is extremely limited, and you kind of have to come up with airports that are small enough to take GA aircraft, but big enough to be represented in MSFS at least somewhat accurately

i think the comanche has GPS options, but i like flying old school with VORs and headings, which kind of limits the range too

[rustic charm]

Well it doesn't really have to be small enough, the majority of international airports would still accept you I think, it's just the really slot-locked ones like EGLL that would be off limits

Now descending into Krasnoyarsk

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

the jurassic world thing is only for FS2024 :(

volanta is doing an event with it too

[rustic charm]

That's a shame tbh

[rustic charm]

115kts on approach today

Yesterday was 114

I love flying the 319 light

[hollow oracle]

VOR flying is so much fun

it works so well and is so accurate and good

oops, you accidentally put 285 on the dial instead of 286? your going to the next state over to catch the radial now

literally 1mm off on the course dial and you're left confused

[dusty sky]

Yeah ok

FMC flying it is then lmao

[nocturne thunder]

KORD

I recommend the FBW

a320 and a380

ANY X-PLANE SIMMERS HERE???

[primal herald]

Thanks!

[nocturne thunder]

👍🏿

i dont know any other freeware

but if you're willing to put down $50 id recommend the FENIX A320

best plane addon for MSFS

and probably one of the fairest priced

[primal herald]

Nah I already read about the fly by wire a32nx and thought about it, thank You very much!

[echo gorge]

A2A and blacksquare are absolutely the best ga in the sim, with a2a taking the crown

[balmy forge]

I'm wondering at what point I should take the leap from flying my Cesna to something bigger

I can generally not crash now

[echo gorge]

Try the a2a Comanche if you want a faster small ga plane

If you want big ga, the blacksquare starship is probably the best in sim

[hollow oracle]

i guess VOR navigation isnt meant to be that precise, but still

[reef isle]

Depends on the plane

For example the F28 and BAe146 all follow VORs perfectly in MSFS

[hollow oracle]

i think im just going to slap the GTN750 in it or something

i know how to actually operate that, the older GPS options are still pretty confusing

[hollow oracle]

nevermind, GNS430 isnt too bad

far more accurate than trying to go VOR to VOR too

and still low tech enough to where i dont feel like im cheating

not exactly from the same era as the aircraft, but still old enough to where it it would kind of naturally be in a modern indepedently owned PA-24

[hollow oracle]

for some reason i almost stalled out while cruising?

over time im bleeding off speed, i got down to 98knots before i decided to quit, because nothing i did was working, i couldnt regain speed even though i was at 9,000ft and changing mixture and prop settings

ive only ever flown cessnas and stuff, never an aircraft with a prop control

i am starting to hate GA flying

found it, carb heat wasnt on, so there was literally no manifold pressure because of icing

i sort of get the concept of prop control now too after watching a tutorial, its all about sort of balancing manifold pressure with rpms

9,000ft is way too high for fully loaded too

[echo gorge]

I generally like cruising at 5000 or 6000 ish with it, you get quite good cruise speed and good views

[rustic charm]

And back in the cute plane today too

Final leg of the delivery, Krasnoyarsk (UNKL) to Khabarovsk (UHHH)

[trail monolith]

Nice ICAO lmao

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[dusky leaf]

FSS 727 is pretty decent 👍

[rustic charm]

Dark

[untold finch]

https://fselite.net/content/black-square-tbm-850-gets-new-update/
One of my favourite GA aircraft, good to see it getting more love.

[rustic charm]

Almost there

Done

[rustic charm]

The 727 refuses to activate for some reason

[hollow oracle]

they did a few updates within the last few months, might be related to that idk

[rustic charm]

Well tbf I haven't updated it in a while

So it might also be related to that

Just got the newest version, time to see

Nope, it still ain't wanna

Although I don't really know if I'm even using the right key

It's the same thing I put into contrail, right?

Actually wait

The error is "Could not reach servers"

...don't tell me FSS servers for whichever reason are inaccessible in Dubai

[hollow oracle]

going to see how many missions i can get done with the midnight miss

previous attempts at a career mode have been mired by issues, both accidental and bugs

[rustic charm]

Back in the cute plane

12th flight in the 319

Meanwhile the 320 has 6, the 321 has 5, the 310 has 2 and the 380 has 1

[trail monolith]

Where A350

And A330, A321LR, etc

[rustic charm]

Well

I can say where every single other airbus is

A300: just haven't bought it yet, kinda interested in the B4 more than the -600 so waiting for JF
A318: doesn't exist
A320neo: waiting for Fenix to do theirs
A321neo/LR/XLR: no XLR, no LR, FSL 21N exists but I already started with Fenix, so waiting for theirs. Plus it'll be cheaper in the end probably
A330: doesn't exist
A340: doesn't exist yet, waiting for Aerosoft/Toliss with the -600 and ini with the -300
A350: I ain't paying $80 for something that I'll probably only fly 3 times just because I did fly on one with Aeroflot once

[trail monolith]

What's this? https://a330.aerosoft.com/

[rustic charm]

Oh no, that doesn't equal to 'exists'

That equals to 'shows up occasionally in nightmares'

Oh wait no, that's the new one

Well

It's the neo

With the A330 I only really look for the ceo

[rustic charm]

Welp, MSFS bugged out, so another flight now

Undoubtedly the best way to see sunset

[dusky leaf]

Trialling the CSS too early for an opinion, just fired her up and on my second traffic pattern

[trail monolith]

SAS

[dusky leaf]

Where am I ?

FM seems reasonably decent (for msfs) from just doing a few patterns at ENBR, cant speak for systems yet

[rustic charm]

Nice, let me know how it is generally pls

I tried it upon release but haven’t renewed

Mostly waiting for 733/734, freighters particularly

They’ve refined it a bunch since then so idk how it is now

Although even upon release I found it generally decent

Just don’t have much use for the -500

[rustic charm]

Older 737 MCP, nice

Don't even remember when I last flew with that one

[runic hare]

well "older"

if i remember correctly this was fitted as an option on 737ng's until like 2010ish

[rustic charm]

Yeah, but originated from the Classics

At least if I remember it right anyway

[rustic charm]

Once this flight is done, I'll have the same amount of flights in the 319 as in all my other Airbus planes combined

[rustic charm]

There we go

14 flights in the 319

And 14 flights in all other Airbus planes

[hollow oracle]

almost forgot my rule of never flying easyjet

[hollow oracle]

ive found the A319 to be so hard to land, i have no idea why

[hollow oracle]

going from xplane and FSX to MSFS makes you realize how garbage the physics are

[untold finch]

XPlane I get, but rating FSX physics higher than MSFS is madness in my mind. MSFS is a vastly more complex simulation than FSX was, it's doing CFD live for starters.

[rustic charm]

Well, with Xplane I think 99% of the people agree physics are better than MSFS. I'm in the other 1% simply because I've not tried Xplane (going for 2 sims? How many kidneys would I need to sell?)

But if FSX had better physics than FS20, considering that FS20 is direct evolution of FSX... that'd be very weird to start with

[full plank]

I had 3 sims installed on my system at one point & I only used 1

& now I only have 2, 1 fully fledged set up one (MSFS) & P3D just sitting there waiting for me to install Concorde & related scenery

[rustic charm]

Fair, tbh I wanted to get some older sim (P3D, FSX or XP11) for the sake of flying planes that we'll likely not get in MSFS for years to come (anything Soviet, VC-10, L-1011, Mercure, 732, you get it)

But that'd still be quite a lot of money. And while obviously the planes would be different, there'd still be a large overlap in airports that I need, so would still have to basically buy some things for the second time

[full plank]

oh yea, I was pondering reinstalling XP11 again simply for the A346 or the A21N (primarily the PWs) but nah cba dealing with it again

& whilst P3D is older & people give me alot of shit for reinstalling it, its really the only sim where I have a good Concorde, so I can accept the outdated scenery

& you know, chanting some spells & curses to actually get the thing to work

[rustic charm]

Tbh, I don't see why people would get angry over which sim others fly in

Firstly, having P3D for the Concorde is fully understandable

Second, even if you just used it full time, I don't see why that would be a problem for anyone else

Also the A346 is a good shout, but at this point I'd just wait for the MSFS one

Yes it's Aerosoft, but it's also Toliss

And I've heard good things about Toliss

So I'm not even too worried about that one, in fact I'm more worried about the ini 343

[full plank]

after the fucking fiasco that was the 350, im not having high hopes even though it would be lovely due SAS 343s

[rustic charm]

I don't have high hopes either, but if they butcher it...

The 343 is probably the airbus I want the most

[full plank]

but yea up until like a year ago I primarily used P3D for all my flying, I don't care for all the visual gimmicky crap that most other people care for, I get the fleet I want (which is pretty much also available in MSFS bar the 744) & I don't need about 50 other programs running on the side

[rustic charm]

The fact MSFS is however many years old and we still don't have a 744 is quite criminal ngl

How am I supposed to fly Rossiya and Transaero

[full plank]

tbh ToLiss planes look visually ass, but they fly really well

KOSP soundpack is the cherry on top, not the BSS schizo stuff

[rustic charm]

That's the thing though

That's what I heard too

Good systems, fly good, but look bad

Meanwhile Aerosoft?

Look generally good enough, systems aren't that great though

So if Aerosoft does the visuals, while Toliss takes the systems and flight, the result I feel would be amazing

[full plank]

not to open the can of worms because most people say the same fucking thing like its a tic, but im glad I chose FSL over Aerosoft for P3D

I own pretty much all FSL shit for P3D bar the 319 & its just been a good experience throughout

[rustic charm]

Tbf (I'll have to use the same phrase again, but mind you're speaking with someone who started flying under 2 years ago, and that was right away in FS20) I've heard that FSL is generally excellent in terms of quality, as much as people saying their 320s are the best A320 rendition ever, in any flight sim

[reef isle]

It depends

On MSFS if you can't properly do a flight model it will feel worse than FSX IMO

That's mostly because of the SDK and because MSFS doesn't really have inertia.

Xplane is excellent mostly because as long as you give it all the right dimensions and aerofoil it WILL feel good and be within a decent margin of the real performance

On MSFS on the contrary, making a FM is an art, not really a science

And to get a plane that feels good to fly and hits the right performance numbers you might have to sacrifice some W&B

FSX is sort of in-between

I feel like inertia is genuinely better on many of the planes I fly

A very quick and dirty test you can do is to fairly sharply pull up, on most MSFS planes you'll start climbing IMMEDIATELY as soon as the nose comes up, that's not the case in all the FSX planes I've flown, and it's certainly not the case on Xplane

[full plank]

yea I've flown the FSL busses for the past 5 years or so & much like ToLiss they're not the visual beasts as people might think but systems are quite good & sounds for the most part in MSFS are alright

[reef isle]

There are some values and some "tricks" you can do on the MSFS flight model to work around this issue, and both the MD80, the iFly MAX and the PMDG do this, using various different methods, but if you just don't bother, it's not going to feel good to fly.

[rustic charm]

Don't you generally need to write a full flight model for MSFS planes? Like isn't that just one step of the development process

[full plank]

not going to open up a debate about what addon is the best because im not a pilot & because I quite frankly don't care. I fly both developers' Airbus addons & both have their strengths & weaknesses but in terms of systems they're immersive enough to keep me interested

[rustic charm]

Fair. Tbh I can't even really judge airbus planes, I barely know them

Generally just was recommended the Fenix, bought the Fenix, and it definitely lived up to the expectations and feels more than good enough

[full plank]

I've had my ups & downs (lol) with Fenix aircraft, but now they're stable enough to make me fly them regularly

& thanks @rustic charm for being able to see both sides of the coin instead of just falling into the ''test.exe'' traphole as most other people do once I say I fly the FSL

[rustic charm]

I mean, I bought them (the full pack) 50 days ago, clocked 25 flights across all 3 by now, so that's a flight every 2 days xD

[rustic charm]

Welp I've heard about that, but generally I don't think that one issue fully invalidates a developer, especially when said developer does make high quality stuff

If it was some repeated stuff (for example if similar things were found within their MSFS releases) then I'd understand having an absolutely negative stance, but this isn't the case

[full plank]

I own the entire Fenix suite, I've certainly enjoyed flying them but alot of the times I've also been plagued with issues which are mostly resolved after I upgraded my system

wouldn't call them perfect by any means, but people need to stop putting Fenix on a pedestal

[rustic charm]

Yeah. I just honestly don't think that choosing one developer to praise and disregarding everyone else is right

Plus I can't wait until FSL do the MSFS Concorde

London to Kai Tak will be the ultimate challenge

Can't even quite imagine doing that approach in the concorde

[full plank]

someone on youtube did it in the AF conc

[rustic charm]

Also I still haven't done a single flight to Kai Tak... will need to change that eventually

[full plank]

can't imagine flying the AF concordes, couldn't stomach listening to french for a few hours

[rustic charm]

Tbh I was really surprised when I saw photos of Concordes at that airport

[full plank]

I had an FSL developer help me get charter routes from Heathrow to Copenhagen & Billund

so thats one for the cards eventually

[rustic charm]

(I mean, to begin with, I never quite realised that Concordes flew a fair few routes, I always really considered them purely transatlantic birds)

It's a bit annoying there isn't really any mention of when (at least which year) we'll get the Concorde in MSFS

[full plank]

one of my favourites was BAW189/188 BNF189/188

EGLL-KIAD-KDFW

[rustic charm]

That sounds cool

[full plank]

used to fly the LHR-IAD portion fairly often

& it was always really fun cause most controllers just said ''yea direct acceleration point, climb 270 & free speed''

don't mind if I do

[rustic charm]

Sounds fun xD

[hollow oracle]

in MSFS, i land like a rock, in FSX i've gotten landings equal in smoothness to xplane

[dusty sky]

Well it's msfs physics so yeah

[hollow oracle]

just my personal experience that FSX landing physics feel much closer to xplane than MSFS

the only logged flights i have done so far in FSX are with the TFDi 717 and PMDG 744, so both high quality aircraft, which might have something to do with it

though, the accusim B-17 lands as good as both of those too, i just dont have any logged flights

[dusty sky]

When will there be a high quality 717 for msfs

[hollow oracle]

i gave up hoping for one, thats why i have FSX re-installed

microprose has been doing a lot of work with their MSFS B-17, theyre aiming to get it out before the end of the year, so hopefully that can live up to the A2A accusim one

that might be the aircraft to get me to move to 2024, its releasing for 2024 first, then 2020 after

theyve been showing increasingly more photos of it in their discord, and right now theyre trying to fasttrack being approved for the marketplace so they can release it on consoles. they said there's a few features that need worked on, some liveries need to be made, but they want to get it released ASAP so they can release updates after the fact

[dusty sky]

I kinda have a bucket list of things to do to play msfs again

1. Get my 3060 to give a signal so I can actually play the game
2. Get the high quality freewares

Yummy

[rustic charm]

Tbf not that much freeware in MSFS

[dusty sky]

Flybywire stuff and that A330 based on the fbw A320

Mostly

But man I actually don't want to play flight gear anymore

[rustic charm]

Yeah, that'd be about it

FBW 380 to be fair is nice

Haven't tried the 32N

The Headwind 339 also idk, haven't tried, but I've seen they've been working on it a fair bit

There's also the Fokker F27 on flightsim.to I think

[untold finch]

the quality of your landings is not necessarily indicative of the quality of the physics engine in the game, would be my point here

MSFS took some getting used to for me after years of DCS, which has "the greatest physics of all flight sims" according to a fair few but has fuck all air simulation, still uses lookup tables for performance, etc

[hollow oracle]

managed to make it back to base with 2 engines and a half-dead crew

and 7 confirmed fighter kills

[rustic charm]

It feels good to be back

My last flight in the 727 was just over 2 months ago

[rustic charm]

And we at Boeing Field

[dusty sky]

So what was wrong?

[rustic charm]

Idk

It didn't work

I reinstalled

It work

[dusty sky]

Probably some corrupted file who knows

[full plank]

in the sim again after some time away

sadly not the pond hop I planned on doing, but a NEO flight nonetheless

[dusty sky]

I hate you

[full plank]

?

[dusty sky]

I can't play msfs bro

[hollow oracle]

the quine of the skyes

(thats not a -8 either)

[trail monolith]

Just a fyi if you right click the picture i believe you can copy it to clipboard

[hollow oracle]

(I took a screenshot because I was referring to the comment)

[dusty sky]

I just realized that he spelled great and greate

[dusty sky]

Would you guys say the salty 747 is better than the default one?

[hollow oracle]

The default one is better

I’ve done a few flights with the default -8 and it works good

[hollow oracle]

not only "a few flights", my first flight in it was a trans-atlantic lufthansa flight, completely untested beforehand

so, if i can do a full transatlantic flight in it with no issues, it is a good aircraft

[rustic charm]

Does anyone know Hughes Airwest's ICAO code?

Wikipedia and rzjets only have the IATA code, Volanta doesn't know what Hughes Airwest is overall, idk where else to look

[full plank]

don't think they had an ICAO code

Hughes Airwest ceased operations in 1980, the current 3 letter system came into being in 1982

to quote Wikipedia ''In 1982 ICAO introduced the current three-letter system due to the increasing number of airlines. After a transitional period of five years, it became the official new ICAO standard system in November 1987''

[rustic charm]

Wait so before 1982 it wasn't a thing at all?

Is it really my first time flying an airline that was gone before then

[full plank]

don't appear to be, tried researching several Hughes registrations but all either came up as other aircraft entirely or missing

so i'd imagine it would simply just be RW, the IATA code across the board

[dusky leaf]

New Heli 🥳 The 902, about to take her for a spin

[runic hare]

The big orange bastard has left

Another C-32 is waiting to take off

[rustic charm]

Stealthy A319 now

Descending into Munich

Not me constantly flying this ultra-automated plane in VS and speed set, at least this time it's not in heading mode XD

[rustic charm]

Anyone knows what kind of navigation units are those?

And what would be realistically the closest to them, CIVA (I assume not), GNS 530 or GNSXLS (since those are what the FSS 727 has)

[rustic charm]

Time to go to Ottawa

[rustic charm]

POV: you leave a no-autothrottle 727 unattended for 30 seconds while almost at FL390

(It dropped to 130kts IAS)

[reef isle]

All of these are fairly different unfortunately

The closest would be the XLS, as those IIRC were GPS units

[rustic charm]

Fair

For this flight I just went with CIVA

But I guess I'll use XLS for the future

Plus tbf I've never tried any other nav module in the 727 so it might be fun

[reef isle]

Use whatever you want

They're both wrong

[rustic charm]

Yeah, ik

But the thing in the pic looks bit more advanced than the CIVA

Plus again, I might as well try it, and if I don't like it - just will go back

[reef isle]

I had the same problem with flying European operators with the 732

I just ended up not flying any of them

[rustic charm]

That's an interesting solution xD

I assume the majority didn't use CIVA?

[reef isle]

Almost no one used civa in the 727 and 737

[rustic charm]

That's understandable

Tbf the majority initially were just flown VOR-to-VOR as far as I know

And then when airlines decided they need something GPS-based, more advanced things were available

[reef isle]

In the US they were VOR only until the end in the 2000s

And yes

In Europe they mostly went with those early GPS units

That's why I almost exclusively fly the 732 and 727 in the US tbh

Dan Air London is the only carrier I know for sure had CIVA in the 727

I believe Air Nauru had it too

[rustic charm]

I've been planning to fly some Dan Air in the 727 for like months now lol

[reef isle]

Yeah I just gave up and only fly those in the US 😅

If I fly in Europe I usually fly the Beluga, 737 Classic or Dassault Mercure

Not having one of those early navigational units is too big of a problem for me

[rustic charm]

Well, if I fly in Europe, usually it involves Moscow lol

And since obviously there's nothing Soviet in MSFS, it's either 738s, A320s or 777s

[reef isle]

735 was fairly common right?

[rustic charm]

Can someone just go and make a Tu-204/214 pretty please

[rustic charm]

Not too common, but they still fly

Utair still has a couple classics active

[reef isle]

Oh right you're talking about current day flights

[rustic charm]

735s for sure, and I think 733s?

[reef isle]

I have no idea then

[rustic charm]

Well I don't think many other companies in Russia used 735s in the past

[reef isle]

I think I saw a couple?

But it was a while ago now

So might be misremembering

[rustic charm]

Aeroflot Nord must've had some

I think it was a -500 that they crashed near iirc Perm

[reef isle]

Right yeah those weren't too long after Aeroflot was split up right?

So probably a few changed hands a lot

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[rustic charm]

And that's right, it was a -500, and it was in Perm

S7 must've had -500s too

I know Aurora also did, but they don't fly to Moscow (the whole reason the airline was set up was for service in the far east)

-400s saw more use though

I think pretty much everyone had them

I really can't wait until CSS releases the 734 and the 733, freighters are gonna be so useful

[reef isle]

Agreed

[dusty sky]

What plane is that?

Oh it is a 727

Why does it look like that

[rustic charm]

Well depends on what exactly you mean by 'like that' XD

Through all this time I generally learned 1 thing about 727s

Each one has a different cockpit

[trim harbor]

https://css.aero/post/news190925

exciting

[rustic charm]

Yeah

I don't have a payware Ottawa and that upsets me

The default one is terrible

[trim harbor]

love seeing traffic

[rustic charm]

Yeah, tbf it's cool

I should fly with BATC more to see traffic, really kinda want to have a TCAS activation at some point (although that's not something you get often)

Going to Anchorage now

[rustic charm]

Guess how many engines are operating? That's right, not 3

Engine 2 was playing up for some reason, so I took off on just 1 & 3 and did an inflight relight on 2

Now all 3 are alive and well

[trim harbor]

poor guy had to go around

i was too slow

[hollow oracle]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna225270

This is why I fly flight sims

Glass of wine, or a couple of beers, and I’m still fit to fly

[trim harbor]

there was a british airline

that owned an AN124

thats actually very interesting

well, sorta 'owned'

[rustic charm]

And seemingly it was registered in the USSR?

Reading a bit about it, apparently they operated an Il-76 as well

[trim harbor]

all sorts of interesting planes

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[trim harbor]

very cool tbh

[rustic charm]

Yep

And of course we don't have a single one of these in MSFS

Honestly

Making an An-124 would be so easy for ini

They did the 225 already

And afaik the 124 and the 225 have literally the same cockpits

And An-124 would sell well

And it wouldn't even result in any politics-driven negative reviews because it's Antonov, it's Ukrainian

(I mean tbf, it's neither Ukrainian nor Russian, it's Soviet, but most of the people now disregard that fact)

Anyway, mini-rant concluded, ini please make an An-124 it will take you literally 3 months to do so

[rustic charm]

Sooo, guys, what's the funniest mistake you've ever made while flying? I'll go first:

• Forgetting to load the cargo before departure

Or should I word it as "Flying 6 hours to Anchorage only to realise close to the top of descent that the plane is empty"

So we'll say that this was simply a positioning flight

(I swear I clicked load though... and it did load fuel after all...)

[dusty sky]

Wait fr?

I never knew that

[dusty sky]

You're in a cargo plane how do you forget lmao

[dusty sky]

When are they adding the blue air livery

[rustic charm]

Kinda, not in the sense that each cockpit is truly different of course, but the 727s had something like a million billion different navigation units throughout their lifetime, also Advanced ones had different layouts, also you could have aux tanks/no aux tanks, then I'm pretty sure you had several different autopilot modules that all were equally ancient, some also were equipped with autoland and autothrottle (rarely though), some weren't, and basically as a result you had just so many different options

[rustic charm]

Thing is, I genuinely input the fuel and the cargo data into the EFB and clicked load, but for whichever reason it only loaded the fuel and not the cargo

[dusty sky]

The plane was scared of the banana radiation

[rustic charm]

And the funniest thing ever is I only realised because I was chatting with a friend in DMs and mentioned that the plane tells me that the recommended flight level is 430 (the service ceiling literally) and he was like "With almost full payload? That plane must be drunk"

And I took a screenshot of the PFD showing that I'm not anywhere near the plane's limit while at FL400, and then realised that this performance does look really weird

So I went to the FMC, checked the weights... and realised I'm empty

[rustic charm]

Almost there

Nav stopped working for some reason, sooo... revert to VOR

It works on the FO ND but my ND just went blank for some reason

[rustic charm]

Welp, time to go to Kai Tak

Wait does this plane really not have auto step climbs

[echo gorge]

That livery just hits

[rustic charm]

It absolutely does

[rustic charm]

Also I just found out that it's not a separate feature like in the PMDG planes because the MD-11 apparently does it by default

Gross weight - 620klbs

Definitely loaded this time

[rustic charm]

My Vr is literally 174kts

Kai Tak, here I go

[hollow oracle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSExposed/comments/1nmczpy/asc_lead_offer_to_bankroll_lawsuit_for_razbam_vs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[mortal furnace]

Ah yes like the zoom call leaks from 20 years ago 🤣 🤣 🤣

Easier way to resolve this just dont part money with edging guynamics

I wont buy anything again from them personally

[trim harbor]

what the hell is up w the engines

[rustic charm]

Still flying

40 minutes to Kai Tak

Also ngl

How does it happen that I climbed to 2000 over what simbrief asked me for the whole flight

I did 300 > 320 > 340 > 360 instead of 280 > 300 > 320 > 340

And somehow I'm still below what the plane says is the optimal flight level

It says FL400 is optimal lol

And descending now

[rustic charm]

Kai Tak done

What's the best version of this airport that we have?

[echo gorge]

The asobo one with mods

[rustic charm]

Seriously? Not one of the paywares?

[dusty sky]

Do I buy an msfs plane for Christmas?

[rustic charm]

If you want to

You don't have to lol

Idk if any MSFS devs really do christmas sales

Pretty sure PMDG don't

JustFlight most likely will?

[dusty sky]

Something cheaper

Yk how Romanian currency is like

[rustic charm]

Well tbf with a sale, JustFlight stuff will be reasonably priced

At least if you want an airliner

For GA, you'll most likely be able to find something cheaper than that

[dusty sky]

For GA the default planes are enough for me

[rustic charm]

Well for airliners you most likely won't find anything under $40-45

[dusty sky]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

Bro at that money I'm better off buying msfs 24 on sale lmao

[trim harbor]

idk why its so unsharp

[trim harbor]

idk why im getting a tcas warning

[echo gorge]

Having seen the leaked razbam zoom call I must say that seems entirely inexcusable.

As much as I've wanted a mig 29 for years, I think this is pretty much the final nail in the dcs coffin for me and I can only hope that one day we get a better sim for cold war combat airplanes and helicopters

[trim harbor]

whatsup

[echo gorge]

I'm a bit behind the curve as it seems to have leaked a few days ago

I'm struggling to find the full video, but here's enigma's video on it that contains significant portions https://youtu.be/FkVpxzZklLM?si=Z3mdtAROW2E4jGQF

It's such a shame, without razbam products the cold war scene gets pretty destroyed, the f100 with no mig 19 is kinda useless and the mig 29s only real peer competitor in era is the m2k (yes yes modernized I know but still) and the f4e desperately needs the canceled mig 23. And all of this just hurts the germany map to no fault of its devs

[mortal furnace]

its a year old allegedly

[echo gorge]

Yes

But only recently leaked

[mortal furnace]

its a nothing burger

[echo gorge]

It's not though? It's confirmation of razbams claims

Yes they've been claiming things for a year, but it's just been claims that weren't really varifiable

[mortal furnace]

same way nick said stuff about heatblur BUT DONT TELL NO ONE lol

enigma will get his click bait views and youtube money funny if ED told him to take it down 🤣

[echo gorge]

Ok? I'm genuinely not sure what your point is

[mortal furnace]

it should not of been leaked anyway

thats the point

[echo gorge]

Well yeah, but it's out there now and it pretty much confirms razbam's account of things

[mortal furnace]

might well do but still

[echo gorge]

Like yeah I'm sure the leaker is breaking an nda, but that doesn't change the contents of the leak

[mortal furnace]

ed can still have a request to remove it

alot of money has benn lost

[echo gorge]

They can sure, and it does seem like it's been scrubbed from a lot of subreddits, but I don't think that matters at this point

[untold finch]

It's definitely Ron lol, he's got nothing to lose at this point

[echo gorge]

Almost certainly

[untold finch]

It feels like the last hurrah of RAZBAM before their modules are fully removed from the game

Drop a grenade then dip sorta thing

RAZBAM definitely did stuff wrong but Nick openly admitting that he was extorting them to get them to sign a contract is all the proof I needed to confirm my opinions

[trim harbor]

the ini a330 sucks for msfs2024

its buggy as hell

disappointing to say the least

[hollow oracle]

its really a shame that DCS is dying too, there really isnt any competition in the space because theyve been the standard for so long

i was really looking forward to the C-130 too, but i guess ill just start looking at other options

same with the A-10, i was still interested in buying that eventualyl

[trim harbor]

vtol vr

bro come on

what is this quality

[hollow oracle]

apparently the xplane store is unofficial, and run by a guy who is very easily angered and who will ban you on very little evidence

which is terrifiying

[hollow oracle]

i love simbrief, probably like 90% of the flight plans i make i never end up doing

[trim harbor]

Yes

Because xp is run by boomers

[runic hare]

This is true

It is also why it’s all a bit antiquated in the way the store and the forums work

[hollow oracle]

razbam/microprose are apparently working together now as well?

[trim harbor]

Ngl makes sense

Razbam is an S tier dev

It‘d be dumb not to pick up a potential success for probably very little

[rustic charm]

At 410 over northern Canada

[dusky leaf]

The .org is unofficial and known for knowingly selling stuff that doesnt work and every time they update their forum they make it worse

Not heard of them banning people? think that might be x-aviation you are thinking of? Roll on the official store, but devs will chose which store they use on a number of factors

[full plank]

vine boom

[trim harbor]

i really dont get why ts shit so unsharp 🥀

[full plank]

welcome to Bahrain, 3 hours 56 minutes after departure from Heathrow

[rustic charm]

Good concorde in MSFS wen

Descending into Heathrow

It's a Gatwick reg, but I set up for Heathrow initially, so going there

[balmy forge]

From the FS2024 server. I see Career mode has some quirks

[hollow oracle]

it has had massive bugs like that since release, and they havent been addressed at all

[balmy forge]

Biggest bug is that it's not a 5* difficulty

[hollow oracle]

i wonder what a floats equipped 737 would look like

bring back the clippers

[trim harbor]

busy

[rustic charm]

Well, Frankfurt lol

[rustic charm]

I'm just collecting planes in Sheremetyevo by now

I have 9 already there lol

All delivered

[trim harbor]

lots of fun to fly into though

with traffic

i think i fly w traffic setting on 7 or 8 which is hefty

[rustic charm]

Is that with BATC?

[trim harbor]

ye

[rustic charm]

Nice

I think the last time I used it I had traffic on full 10

But obviously not in Frankfurt lol

Actually don't quite remember what was the last flight I did with BATC

KPAE - Portland - KSFO was with BATC (Portland is only there because I forgot kgs to lbs and ended up in a fuel emergency 30 minutes after takeoff lol)

But I don't remember if I did any after that one

[full plank]

back to Heathrow from Bahrain

& then a KJFK-CYVR later cause I accidentally spent an hour or two messing around with custom routes in navigraph charts

[rustic charm]

Aaaand back into the night we go!

3 left

[full plank]

no nighty night here

[rustic charm]

Lucky, being able to see your own airplane... 😄

I'm in real time and close to Norway now

Between Svalbard and mainland Norway

Gotta fly to Svalbard at some point

Wonder what's the biggest jet that ever went there

[trim harbor]

idk why it struggles so much

[rustic charm]

Yeah it sometimes struggles a fair bit with understanding taxi readbacks

[trim harbor]

thats the only thing where it struggles

i dont have any accent either

weird

[rustic charm]

It never understands me when I'm leaving KBFI lol

Cause it always tells to taxi via ramp

I read back ramp

"Negative, taxi via ramp"

[rustic charm]

And I like to think I don't either

But it still struggles to understand sometimes

[trim harbor]

very weird

[rustic charm]

(I can have a really strong Russian accent if I want to of course, it's fun)

[rustic charm]

I guess it's really just imperfections of AI, I know they're working on fixing it a lot

[rustic charm]

Can you see Norway? I can't, but it's there

2 hours left

[rustic charm]

My 11th delivery to Moscow, 10th to Sheremetyevo

[full plank]

off to Vancouver

[agile oak]

https://tenor.com/view/concorde-plane-supersonic-avion-air-france-gif-15254780812831484007

my beloved

[rustic charm]

Lovely

Never was the biggest Concorde fan (I like it, but just not too much), but it's gonna be so nice when (if) FSL makes it for MSFS finally

Wish there at least was a chance for us to see its Soviet brother too

[runic hare]

oops

[rustic charm]

Looks like fun

[runic hare]

fl110 and a 56kt tailwind

[trim harbor]

return journey with a sinking nose gear?

[rustic charm]

Over Persian Gulf now

Almost done

[full plank]

off on the next leg of the world tour. Las Vegas to Honolulu

[dusty sky]

I can't wait to fly this friday

[hollow oracle]

lmao

microsoft flight sim 2024 coming to ps5

[trail monolith]

https://youtu.be/1u5F-I1GH90?si=rjbdG82brG8H6Y_p

XB-1 appeared in the trailer fyi

[hollow oracle]

i did notice that, but because its possibly made by asobo, i really dont care lmao

XB-1, made by fenix? i might shit my pants

XB-1, made by asobo? i sleep

[reef isle]

I'm so sad