Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[reef isle]

I think the BAe146 should be higher up but it shows up as different aircraft types

"737" is that the iFly MAX?

Or the PMDG 737-700?

[lethal jasper]

B73W, B37H or B38M 🧠

[trim harbor]

both

73MAX and 738

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp8kHthK-gk

cool video

[rustic charm]

Wait Volanta gives you a review?

[wide zenith]

Theyre sending them out, haven't got mine yet

[rustic charm]

Oh

Seems I don’t have one yet either

But I kinda know what it’ll say

Cause my first flight with Volanta was on 5th March 2024 xD

So out of my 98 flights, 87 were done in 2024

[dusky leaf]

Never used volanta, is it a flight tracking/logbook kinda thing?

My map would be a mess of lines as I only ever fly in BC and Alaska

[trim harbor]

Ye

[rustic charm]

I think more than a quarter of my total flights are fully within Alaska lol

Also, were there any reviews on the DC-9 yet?

[echo gorge]

They seem very negative from what I've seen

It's quite unfortunate

[runic hare]

that thrust reverse

my god

[reef isle]

You know what @runic hare I'll give the Colimata another chance

I'll report back

couldn't resist

If I like it I'll buy it

[trim harbor]

thats a funny routing

[reef isle]

seems a bit sketchy, thoughts?

[trim harbor]

y

i mean you're flying that route because you're expected to go sonic

sounds and stuff

i'd assume atleast

[reef isle]

Yeah

[trim harbor]

imo it looks fine considering it's concorde

seen from a perspective of you flying sonic it seems reasonable

[reef isle]

Excellent, thanks 😄

[reef isle]

Off to a good start... 🙄

[reef isle]

Supersonic

(Reheat was just for show, I 100% didn't need them), amazing Flight Model

Mach 2 at 51k

It's amazing, across all publications of Concorde that I've come across, 60.00ft / Mach2 is the ultimate goal that can be reached only in the most optimal circumstances, and granted I am doing a shorter flight compared to a transatlantic crossing, and granted I decided to not load the aircraft up (I have about 50% of max payload), but man...

I had to put literally 0 effort or brain power in this climb and cruise it still ended up perfectly

Flying the free Tu-144 in FSX feels more rewarding 🫤

Genuinely flying the 737-200 and 727 are more challenging.

Like, IIRC somewhere they say that they would alter the in cabin display to say "mach 2" even though they were going 1.9 something

I guess that's what happens when aerodynamic heating isn't a thing 🤷

[reef isle]

Flight completed, it's not as bad as I remembered, still not good enough to be really enjoyable IMO, I'd rather fly the freeware Tu-144

I quite enjoyed the subsonic low speed handling, landing felt a bit "off" compared to what I've read about real landing technique but it could have been a skill issue on my part

I might do another flight now that I'm a little bit more familiar with it, then I'll decide wether or not to buy it

[rustic charm]

Welp, just seeing my recap

87 flights, 148 hours, top 30%

[runic hare]

not too shabby

[rustic charm]

50 airports across 6 countries, 23 different regs. Didn’t think I had that many airports

[untold finch]

I think that makes me the "gentlest lander" so far, which is pretty funny as I've definitely got some Tomcat landings in there

[glass totem]

Got fed up with flight sim 2024 so I’ve reinstalled 2020 and all my addons

[rustic charm]

Oh wait, I looked at the wrong screenshot LOL

Don’t mind me having a dumb moment

Yeah I have no idea how you have it under 200

Mine’s -296

[wide zenith]

Pretty proud of 232 means i'm not bottling it every flight

[rustic charm]

Well, currently actually -299

[wide zenith]

mines definitely padded by the pmdg flight model with the 737 lol

whenever I get to the 20-30ft mark the a320 would always drop out on me

[rustic charm]

Out of my 2025 flights, the majority are around -300. There is also that one Halifax landing in the 737: -97.85fpm at 0.97G

But

I’ve done one flight on 12th January

-1040

1.93G

185 knots

[runic hare]

oh god thats a lot

[rustic charm]

It was simply just a “I have to land NOW” situation, I was in a 727 with no fuel even for a goaround xD

[reef isle]

I think so far I'm the only person with more flights than hours

[untold finch]

The power of Virpil controls 😉

[rustic charm]

I’m not sure if your math is mathing right mate

Your screenshot says 225 flights, 241 hours

[runic hare]

It’s not surprising that I have way more hours than flights

I like a good medium haul route

[reef isle]

Uh I'm dumb

I meant

That they were that close

(this is what happens when I try to multitask)

[runic hare]

I’m trying to think, would Antalya - Tromsø be considered medium haul?

In my eyes it wouldn’t be

But EASA regs say it is

[rustic charm]

When I just started out I actually had more flights than hours. I would normally do 20-30 minute hops. Now I’m much more out there in long haul

[runic hare]

5h 30 min

[rustic charm]

I’d call everything 4-6 medium haul

Earlier I’d say everything 4-8 is, but Moscow to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk is 7:40 and it is not medium for sure, it’s like a third of the world

[runic hare]

For flight hours and Max FFP it’s over 5 is medium

[trim harbor]

the tu is so good

i love it

i need it for xp12

:(

[rustic charm]

Need the creations of Andrey Nikolayevich in MSFS

[hollow oracle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mHQOssoTmIQ?si=jgJ8Aizd16Mxuc5h

real

flaring at 45 degrees and making an immediate 90 degree turn straight to the gate, no taxi

[runic hare]

Let’s see just how bad this storm is today

FR2746 & FR2745

[runic hare]

Oh for the love of god

[dusty sky]

Uh what

[untold finch]

https://www.justflight.com/articles/just-flight-avro-vulcan-msfs-2024-compatibility-update

One of the best planes released for flight simming in the past 5 years imo

[dusty sky]

Can't it also drop bombs?

[echo gorge]

Yes

Not that they do anything

[runic hare]

I stg every day something bad happens to me

Like I’m cursed

Seriously

This isn’t even physically possible and yet it happened

If you see me operating your flight with Ryanair, offload yourself because shits about to go down 😂😂😂

[rustic charm]

I think I actually have never flown with Ryanair

Did 1 on EasyJet long ago iirc, 2 flights on Wizz too a couple years back, but none on Ryanair

[wide zenith]

scotland is getting hammered with traffic

[rustic charm]

I wonder if Scottish ATCs have background bagpipe music

[wide zenith]

lmao

the boris soundpack released for the 737 today

[rustic charm]

Oh, a 737 soundpack

That is good

[wide zenith]

https://orbxdirect.com/product/baw-pmdg-737-msfs

its really good

SU1 beta came out for 24 today too and apparently the 77w works in it

[rustic charm]

Jem finally able to play something that isn’t an A320?!?!

[wide zenith]

Nah fuck 2024 I've been using 2020 still for months

well fuck 2024 till it actually gets updated and fixed

[rustic charm]

Fair

[hollow oracle]

I really want the beluga and C-17, but i hate 2024 even more

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don’t-need-it-i-definitely-don’t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

under $10USD too

i just wish that you could use orbs to get discounts, that would definitely push me over to get it

[full plank]

why do you have the poo role

& I ended up buying it, think the asking price is completely fair

[hollow oracle]

i dont even know anymore

it comes and goes

[hollow oracle]

100%, im just broke rn

[echo gorge]

Wait you got it again? That stupid bot istg

[dusty sky]

Are you talking about Freddy or some other bot?

Speaking of I haven't seen him in a while

[wide zenith]

😩

[wide zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/new-amsterdam-lauren-bloom-you-really-need-it-you-need-it-janet-montgomery-gif-27547169

[glass totem]

Time for a flight

Manchester to Honolulu

[glass totem]

A nice and relaxing cruise over Greenland

[hollow oracle]

when i file for bankruptcy, simulator DLC will be the #1 cause 🥲

[hollow oracle]

i love the tiny detail of how the BAW audio pack has the stick shakers on startup

[runic hare]

I cite further evidence

wtf is this

What the actual fuck

[hollow oracle]

that BAW soundpack makes the PMDG 737 feel like a brand new aircraft

[reef isle]

@runic hare tried the colimata again with this mod
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/52508-concorde-heritage-avionics-package-upgrade/

and it's so much better

I had to DM the guy to get the XP11 version of the mod

I might actually end up buying it

[trim harbor]

awee manneee

[reef isle]

Yeah I don't have any of the premium stuff

it's still a big upgrade from the stock plane

[trim harbor]

honestly

then the upgrade might b worth

[reef isle]

I think so as well

but not going to pay, I can't live with the idea that Colimata drops a random update that breaks this mod and then it'd be wasted money

[rustic charm]

The FE panel on PMDG’s 741 was shown

Of course it’s WIP but imo it looks just too clean. And consider it’s PMDG, I won’t be surprised if they keep it so

[reef isle]

I'm not overly interested in the 747

I can't really explain why

At first I would have said it doesn't really satisfy my interesed for niche and weird aircraft, but I'd love a DC-9 and the 737-200 was one of my most flown aircraft last year, so I don't know, perhaps I'm not aware of any interesting flights to do with it 🤷

[rustic charm]

Honestly I’m very interested in a 747 classic, but I’m more interested in JustFlight’s version

Though overall, in the list of classic aircraft I want, the 747 would rank rather low

The 732 crowns the list. It is just everywhere. Plus gravel? Hell yeah

L-1011 is a strong second. That thing was good

Also I just don’t entirely trust PMDG to do it

[reef isle]

Didn't JF sell their project and everything they did so far to PMDG?

Did I misunderstand everything?

[rustic charm]

I haven’t heard anything of that 🤔

[reef isle]

Hm, I definitely remember people talking about that when it was first announced

but I don't remember the details tbh

might have just been rumours 🤷

[rustic charm]

It probably was just rumours

Especially considering that JF were doing a -200

And PMDG initially only said about -100

[rustic charm]

Anyone ordered a screenshot dump? I finally stopped being awfully lazy and now I finally have the screenshots from my several latest trips on my phone so I can post them xD

Starting with a TUI 737 delivery (KRNT - KBFI - CYHZ - EGKK), although interestingly I haven’t taken a single screenshot on the last leg, so only up to Halifax here

Then a Canadian North 737 delivery (KRNT - KBFI - CYEG) where I went around 2 times trying to land in Boeing Field…

Ngl Renton is just lovely, so is Boeing Field

One of the next sales I sure as hell need to get Paine so I can deliver triples nicely

[wide zenith]

TUI!

[rustic charm]

Yep indeed

Well technically TOM since it’s the British one

Just prepared the plane for a group flight I’m planning to do with a friend in some time

[dusty sky]

My wallet is looking at this knowing it won't get emptied

[wide zenith]

tomjet ops down to the canaries is so fun in the summer months

[rustic charm]

Oh

So

That is interesting

[wide zenith]

makes sense why we're seeing the 741 before 744/8

[rustic charm]

I assume that’s not even something new but just something I missed completely

[wide zenith]

Gloomy san diego

BAW spotted

[runic hare]

It got worse

I’ve just finished

[trim harbor]

What is that routing

[runic hare]

no direct flights between two of the biggest bases on the ryanair network

because why would there be

[rustic charm]

Makes total sense, yeah…

[hollow oracle]

i dont know why, but ive been getting some severe lag spikes in MSFS recently, especially on approach

never got any of that before, just started recently

[hollow oracle]

sunny and bright hawaiian day

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSVYpoQ1Ro

ladies

all the p3d ogs will scream

[runic hare]

YOOOOOOOOO

I forgot chaseplane was even a thing

[rustic charm]

Honestly looks really nice

[trail monolith]

Not really a flight sim but https://www.youtube.com/live/-qisIViAHwI?si=71cIE0zi52OSJ3HY

[hollow oracle]

fuck, i forgot that was today, i wanted to get up early and watch that

[hollow oracle]

"camera with real physics"?

like, does it replace the cockpit camera as well?

[tired pond]

Yeah

[hollow oracle]

very cool, definitely going to be a day 1 buy for me

especially if it gives you more flexibility on the look of the cockpit camera

[tired pond]

I used it in the p3d days and it was so handy

[trim harbor]

who remembers ezdok tho

[hollow oracle]

huh, the headwind A330 got a MASSIVE update

a completely new cockpit

its no longer just the A320neo cockpit with the weird dash additions

fully 3d, custom from front to back

it just sucks that its the 900neo of all aircraft, like 5 airlines actually fly it

delter

[hollow oracle]

the best part of new york is leaving it

and going as far away from it as possible, like seattle

[runic hare]

It breaking on flights over 4h

Idk why but whenever I set it up it wouldn’t account for the earths rotation so I would somehow start in the captains seat and end up in the FO’s chair

Would have to completely reset it

When I got XP10 I remember going “WOW THIS SHITS BUILT IN!?!?!?!”

I had to really harangle to get MSFS cameras to work sometimes

Still think XP does it best

Same with Simcoders Headshake I went “FUCK THIS SHITS FREE?!?!?!”

[hollow oracle]

MSFS in VR is on another level, but after like 20 mins, it just makes me motion sick and gives me a headache

at the end of the day its kind of just another gimmick, i cant see replacing good old monitors with a VR headset

[rustic charm]

Honestly though them 3 airports have some fire arrivals

[runic hare]

Ehhhhhh

Not really

LGA river visual is the only one that comes to mind as being sick

[rustic charm]

KEWR stadium visual is cool too

[alpine coral]

[reef isle]

Thank god Azzura for some reason had 1 BAe146 for one year (that onl god knows why they decided to paint) among all the RJs

[tired pond]

I cannot stop flying the 737 since the soundpack

[hollow oracle]

https://www.ktsm.com/news/national/small-aircraft-crashes-into-potomac-river-officials-say/

AAL 5342 from Kansas, CRJ-700

Mid-air collision with a US army Blackhawk helicopter

[rustic charm]

Well, fuck

[hollow oracle]

DCA has officially become my absolute least favorite airport (unrelated to recent events)

the RNAV arrivals into it are fucking beyond insane

maybe in like a prop plane??? not in an A321

the final is like a quarter mile

it says its a 3.16deg glideslope, which is absolutely a lie, i was WAY under the PAPI the entire approach

and if you deviate off of the approach, you get shot down for violating DC airspace

i had to do a go-around, but i just elected to cancel the flight, im not going to attempt that again

you might as well just go to dulles, landing is a quadrillion times easier

[echo gorge]

It's so much fun though

The river visual is great, the mount Vernon visual or ils 1 circle to land 33 is also super fun

Not easy at all but a really fun challenge for if you've truly become competent with an aircraft

[hollow oracle]

not easy and not fun

[trail monolith]

Try it with a AN225

[echo gorge]

I suppose it's not for everyone, but at least to me they're very fun challenges

[alpine coral]

Same

[rustic charm]

On a flight not too long ago was going visual for runway 1 (BATC as always cleared me for a visual at night) and it was really fun actually

2 goarounds, but tbh the first one was entirely due to my inability to handle crosswinds. The second one was called for by BATC

[rustic charm]

PAPIs and glideslopes don’t always align either

[trim harbor]

river visual is bang

i dont find it hard either really

[rustic charm]

Welp, just started my 100th flight

Moscow to Bangkok

[runic hare]

this is a 9 year old sim

I could probably put this on jetphotos

[rustic charm]

My 100th done. 8:19 from Moscow to Bangkok, actually among the faster times on this route

[hollow oracle]

damn, you beat me by 8 flights

[rustic charm]

Welp, the tiny hops in Alaska boost the flight count xD

[rustic charm]

Back in the 737 now.
TOM7VG: EGKK (Gatwick) to LOWI (Innsbruck)

[reef isle]

second ever flight with the A321

[rustic charm]

I should’ve done a 727 delivery to Eastern today… turns out just 61 years ago that plane had its first service flight. Wish I knew it in the morning

[hollow oracle]

hong kong, here i come

[trail monolith]

Kai tak or the other one?

[hollow oracle]

VHHH

[trail monolith]

I can't ICAO so much but i suppose that's the modern era airport

[hollow oracle]

i wouldnt dare flying on vatsim, especially during an event, but i thought it would be fun to at least play along

[rustic charm]

Yeah, VHHH is the new one

Well

Actually

It’s both

[hollow oracle]

navigraph doesnt have charts for kai tak

[rustic charm]

The modern one, Chep Lap Kok International Airport, is HKG/VHHH

And Kai Tak… it also is HKG/VHHH

But I’m pretty sure on Volanta it is written as VHHX in order to distinguish it from the other one

[runic hare]

it technically was VHHX when they were testing the ILS for the new chep lap kok

[rustic charm]

Oh, that’s why

[runic hare]

also X is usually an identifier used for airports that are closed

Templehof was EDDX for the few months after it was closed

[rustic charm]

Kai Tak’s closure is sad

The end of an era really

Those landings were something else

It was really cool how they closed Kai Tak and opened Chep Lap Kok on one day though

Really quite impressive

[reef isle]

BER really puts into perspective how impressive that is

(or maybe the other way around?)

[hollow oracle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/1ieon1p/sayintentions_ai_are_using_bot_accounts_to/

i completely forgot about the cake thing lmao

[runic hare]

I mean with BER they moved everything from tegel in one night

It was just 10 years late… 😂😂😂

I still think to this day they should have kept the old SXF terminal as a Ryanair terminal

Even if we are closing our base there

[reef isle]

https://youtu.be/4UsPp5TuebU?si=VTEJAFzDjIIlW_Zt

I want MiG-23 😭

on that channel there are a few very interesting video

that guy is one of the US Pilots that flew the Flogger in Constant Peg

[echo gorge]

I know. It's just so frustrating

[runic hare]

FD at night is gooooood

[dusty sky]

Erm, actually that's not a flight simulator ☝️🤓

[runic hare]

Nah it’s MSFS 2025

[trim harbor]

Someone explain this bs

[tired pond]

Orbs are their rewards points

https://orbxdirect.com/orbs they have an orb shop

[trim harbor]

I know I know

But why the hell does shit like that expire

Actual bs

[tired pond]

Quite a few places do that tbh

[tired pond]

Only issue I see is that they're making all from 2023 expire at the same time

As my april and september ones all expire the same day

[untold finch]

Yeah, I just got the same thing

[rustic charm]

A flight I did yesterday. Anyone wanna try to guess the origin and the destination? I will post the pics of those later. Hint: the flight was 5 hours long

[wide zenith]

heathrow moscow?

altho that might be more like 3-4hours

[rustic charm]

That would be around 5 hours I think, but I would’ve done that in a triple xD

And I gotta say, you’re slightly in the wrong hemisphere lol

[trail monolith]

Are Aeroflot even allowed to fly into the EU?

[rustic charm]

Well, most of the European countries banned them from their airspace temporarily

[wide zenith]

historically tho

[rustic charm]

Doesn’t mean Aeroflot didn’t fly there before

[wide zenith]

dubai moscow then

[rustic charm]

Nope, still the wrong hemisphere xD

[wide zenith]

OH

I know

but my brain isn't working

[trail monolith]

And more than 5 hours?

[wide zenith]

somewhere alaska?

[rustic charm]

Plus Dubai to Moscow is actually 6 hours, and I wouldn’t use a 737 either lol

[rustic charm]

Almost

This was Boeing Field to Halifax

[trail monolith]

Lotta fires in florida lol

[wide zenith]

takeoff time

[wide zenith]

this is america

[rustic charm]

Nice

[rustic charm]

This is all part of a delivery of this 737. Of course it’s not entirely correct, I have no idea what route they actually delivered it over, Halifax is just my go to for transatlantic deliveries. Also the registration isn’t accurate, when it was delivered it would be VP-BRF

Also this was Aeroflot’s first 737 NG

Idk what’s my luck with that

I chose a random Aeroflot 737 to fly - it turned out to be the oldest one they have

I again then chose a random BA 77W to fly - again, it was the oldest one they have

[wide zenith]

wiiii

climbing like a rocket

[dusky leaf]

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/94212-boeing-stearman-–-xp12-mod/

Proper stick and rudder flying

[hollow oracle]

something broke with the ifly max 8 vnav

i struggled to hold altitudes on departure (it overshot both 8000 and 11000 by 400ft+), and then now im getting airspeed warnings on descent while its also struggling to keep up with the vnav path

its also just more laggy than usual ive noticed

it is REALLY struggling on approach right now

[hollow oracle]

never flying the ifly again

landed really smoothly, but for some reason it was pulling left EXTREMELY hard, i tried going around once i went off of the runway and tailstruck

i also went around with my reversers open somehow

it wasnt even a hard landing, -323 at 1.02g

i think the autopilot was still trimming the rudder for the wind somehow???

even though i disconnected AP and had been firmly touched down with reversers and autobrakes deployed

[dusky leaf]

The huey updated for xp12

https://youtu.be/5uaznuYe7Go

❤️ them sounds

[dusky leaf]

https://youtu.be/Q_XA6SNx46g

Couple of weeks from release 🥳

[reef isle]

getting overtaken 😭

cya

[trail monolith]

https://youtu.be/3cjLdfEfTow?feature=shared

[runic hare]

Oh hell yeah

That’s what people should be flying for CTL

Not a shitty A380 or A32x

[rustic charm]

Proper aircraft

[reef isle]

LGA7 Whitestone climb

I missed flying in the US

Also the Flight Model of both the FJS 732 and 727 is just sooooooooo good

probably one of the very very few planes outside of DCS that I could just aimlessly fly for a bit just for the joy of flying them

don't get me wrong, i enjoy flying the Tu-134, 154 and a lot of other planes, but there's just something about their 73 and 72 that just sets them apart for some reason

[trail monolith]

I really gotta wash my plane lol

[rough wolf]

anyone from Canada?

[trail monolith]

@hollow oracle https://www.youtube.com/live/gcMB5kb-PUM?si=Iy0QGsSYId_0O7t-

[trim harbor]

@runic hare

lmao hi

[runic hare]

Yes

Yes

Nah

But it

[trim harbor]

I didnt think I‘d find you on reddit

[runic hare]

Really really really is the shit

[trim harbor]

I know

I owned them myself

Fsx days were golden

[runic hare]

Oh they were

I have an itch to fly the PMDG 744 again

[trim harbor]

1 or 2

[runic hare]

1

[trim harbor]

Based pöane

Plane

[runic hare]

I think I only have 1

I haven’t played P3D/FSX in ages

And it’s a ballache to set up

[trim harbor]

I remember the -8i being released

That was good times

[runic hare]

Oh yeah

[trim harbor]

I‘d install it for the NGX fr

[runic hare]

Nah

It takes like a decade to set up

There are some really good ones

[trim harbor]

I just hate the dx3d crashes or wtvr it was

Pmdg md11 is another classic

Or QWs stuff

[runic hare]

Yeahhhh

Back when Captain Sim was good as well

[trim harbor]

Real good rimes

Flight sim was another level of gold back then

Cant be said abt today anymore

Imo

[woeful elbow]

Windy Flight Back to Gatwick from Innsbruck

[hollow oracle]

jackson's hole

[rustic charm]

I remember flying in there

Did it with the 727

On the first attempt I ran out of fuel and crashed in the mountains northeast of the airport

[reef isle]

🤞 finally got round to it

hope it goes well

Thanks again @rustic charm

[rustic charm]

No problem at all mate, ask anytime

Meanwhile I just opened instagram and I think I know where I’m gonna be flying tomorrow 😆

[hollow oracle]

i fucked up departure pretty bad because i havent flown in almost a full week

its also the first time i tried a flaps 3 takeoff, so i was getting yelled at about my airspeed the entire time because i didnt know what i was doing

just airspeed low rather than stall, so i was able to continue

https://airlinegeeks.com/2025/02/10/faa-adopts-gulf-of-america-reverses-notam-naming/

[trail monolith]

Yeah no

[alpine coral]

FAA lore

[rustic charm]

Now don’t get me wrong

But the name ‘Gulf of America’ suits it more

Cause the whole continent is called that

[hollow oracle]

while i agree with this reasoning, it is not because of the continent that it got changed

[rustic charm]

The Mexican shore is only some half of it, the shore belonging to the USA is only some half of it. ‘Gulf of the USA’ wouldn’t work. But Gulf of America does. Although what would make even more sense is ‘Gulf of North America’

[rustic charm]

Oh yeah that I know

[hollow oracle]

the intention behind it is the big issue

im going to be honest, i didnt even know the meaning of NOTAM had even changed in the first place, ive always been calling it notice to airmen

[rustic charm]

Wait, is NOTAM not?

[hollow oracle]

joe biden changed it to "notice to air missions"

[rustic charm]

Well, interesting

I didn’t even know that

[hollow oracle]

its because "airmen" has "men" in it, and "air missions" is gender-neutral

which, i dont mean to stir the pot, is silly to change it over that

[rustic charm]

I don’t think you’d be stirring the pot with that, it’s just so nitpicky at that point

[hollow oracle]

[rustic charm]

Welcome to post-2022 Russia

[trail monolith]

How many hours does it increase if i may ask?

[hollow oracle]

1

should take 1 hour, the diversion adds another

[reef isle]

Yooo I'll fly with the russians in about 10 days 😄

can't wait

[dusky leaf]

CYPU the red stains are blood from my previous landings

[reef isle]

https://youtu.be/sMSxobFK_mY?si=P9edCCjUtVqcmayU

[rustic charm]

TUI from Innsbruck to Gatwick?

It’s funny I did that same flight with the exact same livery yesterday

[wide zenith]

Yup lol!

I did the first leg on tuesday

no circle to land tho

[rustic charm]

I did the first leg a while ago, made myself a makeshift circle to land lol

Was following the valley for 08, then just went past the field according to the visual approach chart and landed 26

Also planning to do the TUI Gatwick - Innsbruck - Gatwick rotation with a friend on Saturday, real time as with the flight in reality

[wide zenith]

Getting those final winter schedule hops in :(

summer schedule so soon already

[rustic charm]

Most of the time I fly without a schedule xD

And sometimes I even swap out planes

Yesterday did Moscow to Kaliningrad in an Aeroflot 77W

Kaliningrad in reality has never accepted 77Ws

The biggest it took was the A330-200/767-300/Il-96, and those are 15-20 metres shorter than the 77W. And even those require special ground navigation within the airport, with only a few taxiways being allowed

Now needless to say I didn’t do any research beforehand so this came as a bit of a surprise

Had to go on the grass to turn around. Although to be fair, that’s a poor job on MSFS end, cause in reality the paved area is much bigger and is absolutely enough to turn a 77W around

[trail monolith]

Can't you just slew otherwise?

[rustic charm]

Slew?

[trail monolith]

Slew mode

[rustic charm]

Never used it

[wide zenith]

vortices

[rustic charm]

Nice

[wide zenith]

greased it

[rustic charm]

Nicely done

Mine was somewhere around 1.15G touchdown iirc

In my defence… uh, there was a crosswind, and… yeah

[wide zenith]

most of the time i'll go by an airlines schedule on flight radar 24, this was specific flight was a max but I wanted to hear the boris sounds

[rustic charm]

Most of the time I do real routes, also majority of the time real planes, but not real times

Maybe if I went into FS by starting with Aeroflot’s short hauls, I would’ve stuck with real times too. But I started with Alaska. And AK is exactly -12 hours from me, so flying any milk run would mean going for no sleep at all xD

[wide zenith]

I find doing exactly real times quite stressful but fun sometimes

its cool seeing the aircraft on fr24 at the same time but it also limits a lot ig

[rustic charm]

Oh it’s fun

In fact my friend I’m flying with on Saturday only does that

Resulting in sleepless nights and stuff

But all his flights are real route, real plane (not the exact registration of course, it’s hard to predict, but the same type) and real time

And he only flies out of airports on planes he has in those airports. If he doesn’t, he will first deliver those planes or do other flights that would get the plane to the correct spot if it’s already delivered

Last autumn I was flying from Moscow to Bali with a layover in Bangkok. He did a 10-hour flight to deliver an Aeroflot 777. Then he delivered an AirAsia 320 by going 7 hours Toulouse - Sharjah and the next day 6 hours Sharjah - Suvarnabhumi (he messed it up and delivered it to the wrong Bangkok airport xD) And then real time he did 9 hours of Moscow - Bangkok overnight and less than a day later an additional 5 hours of Bangkok - Denpasar. I gotta say, I would not be able to do any of that lol

[reef isle]

I don't really get overnight flights

I think they're a waste of electricity

[rustic charm]

Don’t think I’ve actually had any overnights myself

But well, out of all my flights, only 3 were over 8 hours

[reef isle]

those are still my longest

and I remember for IRM102 about halfway I already lost all my will to live

for JCI because I was trying to fix the plane while enroute it was more fun

I did it with the Xplane IL-76 and that was a BIG mistake, should have used the FSX one

[rustic charm]

My longest one was 11:49 xD

[reef isle]

while enroute I adjusted some autopilot values so that I wouldn't actually need to monitor it every second and then before landing I had to disconnect from vatsim for about 30/40 seconds to reload the plane

[rustic charm]

A full haul Moscow to Denpasar, almost 5800 miles

[reef isle]

Yeah, only way you'll get me to do this kinds of distances is with the Tu-144 or CONC

[rustic charm]

To be fair I was home only a fraction of that time xD

[reef isle]

yeah but that's the thing I don't really get, I know some friends of mine leave the sim going when they're home and working in their PC so at least from time to time they change view and make sure everything goes well

but otherwise I can't really justify it to myself

but of course lots of people do it, and it's not a big deal, do whatever makes you happy 😄

[rustic charm]

Yeah it’s fair

Everyone has an own play style, and frankly I don’t judge anyone’s

Apart from the people who take the A380 and fly it to the dumbest of places like JUNEAU WHY THE HELL

[runic hare]

its a slight sense of accomplishment?

[reef isle]

If you weren't there for most of it, how is it different from a 30 minute flight?

it doesn't feel different to me

[runic hare]

flying a heavy

on a heavy route

I like doing stuff like this

[reef isle]

if you like it that's nice, I don't judge

[runic hare]

yeah

it is a bit of a timewaste if your just sat watching the screen

if your not then its fun

takeoff

do work

come home

land

[reef isle]

I find it just as nice flying the MD11F between EDDF and LIMC compared to LIMC to somewhere in South America

the lenght of the flight contributes very little to how satisfied I am

even after that 5 hours flight I did with the IL-76 I didn't feel any differently compared to many of my 30/40 minutes flights

[runic hare]

need more africa flying

[reef isle]

As I said, if you work on your PC and it serves as a screen saver or something to occupy you if you have a dull moment (even just chaning views and stuff like that) I get it

but if you're not even paying the slightest amount of attention to it for me it's not any different than the flight not happening at all

once I mismanaged my time and had to leave a plane going on its own (and even had to set Pause at TOD) and when I got back I barely had any will to finish the flight 🫤

I did, but to this day it was one of my worst experiences tbh

[runic hare]

its nice to take off

leave

and then land

if you don't have that much time that day

or your doing stuff in the afternoon

then you come home and you land

its the same with overnights

I like to wake up and have to prep for landing

[reef isle]

I find that really "hollow" might as well, leave, shut down the PC and then spawn in the air the following day/afternoon 🤷

[runic hare]

but you didn't thats the thing

[reef isle]

Yeah but nothing you did contributed to that

the AP was flying, and you weren't even making sure it wasn't doing anything crazy

if anything it takes even less effort then to go away and then spawn in the air 😅

If you find that satisfying I'm happy, I just can't see it that way myself

[runic hare]

i have some very good speakers and when you hear the AP disconnect it will wake you and everyone in your postcode up

if its not your thing its not your thing

I still quite like it

[hollow oracle]

i am going to attempt to fly an airplane today

the first tine in 2 weeks

[hollow oracle]

i have consistent bad luck when it comes to flying lufthansa

[hollow oracle]

hm, main thread is the reason why ive been getting extremely bad stutters

thats killed my last few flights, ive never had any issues with it before, but now im getting massive spikes that make it extremely difficult to land

its happening in cruise and stuff too, not just landing, but especially landing

[hollow oracle]

awesome, huge lagspike, the fenix almost literally nosedived, and now my flight is fucked

almost nosedived earlier in the flight too, but it was almost like the wind was blowing it around like it was paper, i was getting 60 while it was happening

i uninstalled the last few mods i installed into MSFS, hopefully one of those was causing the microstutters

i didnt get anything on my flight into hong kong, so it was anything during or after that

[runic hare]

@trim harbor what u think of the FF777 Engine Packs?

Because there has been uproar about them

I don’t really get why

It’s not like flight factor are making a shitty product and then adding a very expensive product on top of that

[rough wolf]

some Scandinavian people?

[rough wolf]

Stockholm

[hollow oracle]

Flight sim awards are a joke

Best airliner for MSFS is literally this with the PMDG 777 vs everybody else

Their competition is literally the TFDi MD-11 and the FSS 727

[reef isle]

How is the FSS 727 even in the same league? 😭

like, it's decent but...

come on

they haven't even released the pax variant

[rustic charm]

And tbf, the thing has bugs

Not having airspeed is very annoying

If you wanna fly fully realistically, that bug basically means “We’re going back to the gate”. If you don’t look at regulations too much or ignore certain issues like me, you rotate and pray that airspeed gauge cones alive before it’s time to land. Oh and really gotta work with alternative autopilot modes, IAS hold is the only way you can climb more or less safely, vertical speed will almost certainly cause you to stall

[reef isle]

Oh interesting

in the 737-200 (xplane) I only climb in IAS below 250kts

once I go above 10k I revert to just pitch hold to maintain 280kts and then let the speed slowly drop while maintaining M.65/.7

[rustic charm]

I pretty much everywhere just go vertical speed lol

Both for climb and for the descent

On the 737/777 the climb is mostly just VNAV, but the descent is still always in vspeed

[hollow oracle]

i voted for the MD-11, but compared to the 777 its nothing, you cant even do holds in the md-11 yet

[green egret]

honestly id put the md11 last on that list

[reef isle]

I think right at launch it would only do one lap and then it would exit
but I seem to remember to see that on a changelog some time ago

[green egret]

if fenix was a new aircraft it would definitely be a winner but i think pmdg or ifly deserve it the most

[reef isle]

I think I'd rather vote the iFly than the PMDG

[green egret]

havent tried it yet so i dont know how good it is but it looked nice

[reef isle]

the TFDi has a terrible, maddog-level 3d model, fortunately I don't care 😄

[reef isle]

Best Airliner flight model in MSFS

by far

One of the very few planes that is really enjoyable to hand fly in MSFS, not as good as the FlyJSim birds on Xplane, but it's the closest you can get in MSFS

the JustFlight planes are decent, but they feel quite same-y

[green egret]

been saving for it but a350 is releasing and i already have the 738 so ill have to wait a bit before i get it

sounds great though

[rustic charm]

The A350 is gonna be nice but mf that price is steep as fuck

[trail monolith]

I want the A350 but not sure if it will work in career mode or not

[hollow oracle]

inconclusive, it seems better, but im still getting some very, very minor spikes that have me concerned that i didnt fix it

and the PMDG 737 just performs better than the fenix, so it could just be that

i uninstalled the freeware VHHH, and another mod that i thought might be causing it is the A330 engine animation and retexture mod that came out the other day

[reef isle]

I don't want the A350

[hollow oracle]

welp

i thought i would have gotten back home before top of descent but i guess not

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-to-america-borat-subsequent-moviefilm-borat-i-go-to-america-im-going-to-america-gif-18651197

thankfully it wasnt that long of a flight anyway, so even though i missed it i can just redo it

[hollow oracle]

it kind of sucks, i really do enjoy flying the FSS e-jets, but the experience is so railroaded that it almost destroys any fun

if something goes wrong, might as well just throw out the flight

they did fix one of the biggest and silliest bugs atleast, the cabin door not closing once the batteries are turned on

taxi feels a bit better too, before it would take off like an F1 car once your brakes were released on idle, though i guess that might not be entirely unrealistic considering its size, weight, and engines

[hollow oracle]

Apparently the custom FMS isn’t far out too, they said they would have a working public demo at FSweekend, and if that goes good, a public release shortly after

[crisp adder]

Is MSFS 2024 still as bad as when it was released?

[reef isle]

Yes

[crisp adder]

So still a no-buy for now?

[reef isle]

For me, yes

[rustic charm]

Same here, 2024 just doesn’t seem worth it

Plus as of yet only a handful of planes are available

[crisp adder]

Ok, I see, thanks. I was just wondering about the state of the game as I haven´t been too much involved in the flight simming news loop, lately.

[reef isle]

They only did 3 hotfixes (the third was mostly to fix the second), and now people are waiting for SIM Update 1

Which shouldn't be too far away

[trim harbor]

ewrES

whoops

retarded

while i do understand it

i also didnt get why pmdg did it w their 200ER for p3d

depends on th eprice

$10 is okay

i wouldnt really buy it myself as idrc but still

[full plank]

tbf im happy that PMDG just does the variants seperately instead of base packs & shi

I bought the 200ER/LR shit & I never flew the latter & I don't think a shiny new sim is gonna change that

[runic hare]

It’s 20 I think when everything is done

But I mean

It’s like 20 different engine variations

[rustic charm]

Separate variants model is only beneficial if you want just a specific variant

If you want all the planes, base pack + expansions would mostly be cheaper

At least with PMDG’s 737s it was

[runic hare]

so they were saying:

• Individual models -200ER/-200LR/-F/-300/-300ER (each one comes with one type of engine)
• "Global Pack" with all of them and the engine expansion

thats how they are gonna sell them

they also mentioned no -300 maybe

[rustic charm]

Tbh I don’t think that sounds too bad

[runic hare]

but its kinda shitty

because currently the -200ER is running with GE90's and the RR/PW engines are part of the expansion

and the GE90's are what you get as the base engine for the 200ER

even tho it should be the RR

[rustic charm]

Well yeah, only having GEs on the 200ER isn’t too nice

[runic hare]

well if you don't buy the expansion

[rustic charm]

Well yea, but imo, engines shouldn’t need expansions. Well, depends on the price they charge for the plane itself, but if it isn’t cheap, then the engines should be part of the base plane

[runic hare]

so if you only want the 200ER with RR engines you need to buy the -200ER and then the engine expansion so about 110usd

[rustic charm]

Especially if you’re locking really popular engines, that’s not nice. I get something niche that would barely be seen, but that’s not the case

[rustic charm]

Yeah, tad bit much tbh

[runic hare]

but if you want all of them then you get 20 different fully custom engine models with all off the different perf specs

[rustic charm]

In which case it’s a good deal really

But that’s if you want all of them

[runic hare]

exactly

I think thats why people were shitting on it so much

so for release and until the -300 is out its gonna be 10usd for the engine expansion

[trail monolith]

https://youtu.be/NPOE-rmn1yk?si=qdPZ2enNeJN-WZwv

[hollow oracle]

never done a LOT flight before, this is my first one

[rustic charm]

This made me realise how few airlines I’ve flown

Just 17, and like, I’ve not even done a single Lufthansa flight

[hollow oracle]

why do planes do this

my worst landing to-date

needless to say im not keeping this flight

lag spikes right as i was landing meant i couldnt flare, but i was able to throttle off

[reef isle]

This is what my average Fenix landing looks like

[rustic charm]

When you can land a Tu-154 better than an A320 xD

[reef isle]

Oh much better, it's not even a competition

It's just the combination of the weird FBW behaviour and the fact I fly it once or twice every 3 months

[rustic charm]

Yeah that is fair

Tbh I’ve never even tried the A320

[runic hare]

That thing is a butter machine I stg

It’s so easy to fly down to final

[reef isle]

Totally forgot the TAT schedule with this thing was available, I'll fly with the yellow one next

such a cute plane

[rustic charm]

What even is that

Wing-mounted engines… above wings?

[runic hare]

We love exhaust blown elevators 😍😍😍

[runic hare]

The green one is the better livery

Or the luftwaffe one

That’s nice

[reef isle]

That's why I'll fly the yellow one

[reef isle]

You might not like it, but this is what peak aircraft design looks like

[rustic charm]

It is certainly interesting

I will have to say though in my opinion peak aircraft design looks slightly differently

[reef isle]

ahah it was a joke

I do genuinely think that given their objective it was very ingenious and it made sense, but yeah...

[echo gorge]

vfw 614s are so cute

[runic hare]

I’m gonna actually try and do some flying today

Haven’t done anything not GA since the 8th

Hold on is this livery accurate?

Because my shitty understanding of how aircraft registrations work that’s not allowed

Oh apparently it is

[reef isle]

Yes I think so

I think some of them were leased so TAT could ""try"" them

IIRC

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/VFW-Fokker_VFW-614%2C_TAT_-_Touraine_Air_Transport_AN0670158.jpg

Yellow one was D-BABG

I think the only ones that ended up with a different reg were the Cimber ones (which got OY-xxx), and one that was given an US registration (N614GB), I think they had plans for it to be privately owned/used in the US, but it never happened

https://cdn.jetphotos.com/400/2/49894_1283020995.jpg?v=0

oh, and of course, the Air Alsace planes got a proper French reg

[woeful elbow]

EXS90VG LPMA-EGKK

[full plank]

from like 2 weeks ago when I actually bothered with doing custom routes

ran out of fun shit to do so Honolulu to Las Vegas

[rustic charm]

A flight from a bit ago, Moscow to Kaliningrad. Finally bothered to get the screenshots onto my phone so I can post them

Lovely approach, the arc takes you right over the centre of the city

Also these from yesterday’s flight, HTZA to HAAB. Not many screenshots cause it was dark and I couldn’t see anything

And this is from almost 7 hours ago, when I departed on my current flight. A 737 from Halifax to Moscow. Quite a journey. I pushed back before sunrise, have already passed sunset and still have around an hour to go

Actually around 2 hours

[rustic charm]

Welp, 100 miles to the top of descent

[green egret]

climbout from riyadh

[full plank]

mmm MD11, haven't flown that in forever

[rustic charm]

Virgin

[trail monolith]

https://youtu.be/927Kotgj0RA?si=Z4TxcxTwIrnLTB7k

[trail monolith]

How many crashes has occurred this year by now?

[hollow oracle]

i believe this is either 8 or 9

4th or 5th fatal i believe

all hull losses except 1

[rustic charm]

This year? I don’t think we had that many

As for airliner crashes, there have been 2 as far as I know - the Delta crash in Toronto and the KDCA collision. Plus there were several other deadly accidents that were not airliners

[runic hare]

BX391
The oilfield crash in Sudan
AA5342
MTS056
BRG445
EDV4819

3 in the US, 1 in Canada, Sudan and Korea

[runic hare]

I think the main thing that’s happened is that it’s all related to America

That’s why it’s so surprising

America usually doesn’t have issues like this

[hollow oracle]

Plus that one in Alaska

That didn’t even get any attention at all here, even though it was 10 people on board

[runic hare]

BRG445

That was the one in Alaska

I think the lack of CRMS in America is really showing

[rustic charm]

There was another one in Korea?

[runic hare]

Yeah

BX391

[hollow oracle]

Not crashes, but some extremely serious ground incidents too, that one fatality from a bizjet collision on the ground in Arizona, and that JAL Dreamliner slicing a delta 737s vertical stabilizer

Honestly, I think it’s just extreme stress catching up to people globally, exponentially sped up by a certain countries president rapidly signing executive orders that have a broad and extensive global geopolitical and economic impact

ESPECIALLY in the US, if you aren’t stressed to the point of crashing out, then you aren’t a living human being

Living here is becoming actively hostile and only rapidly getting worse, it doesn’t matter if you’re a private pilot, airline pilot, controller, military pilot, everybody is at their limit mentally right now

Both right and left too, no matter your political affiliation

[runic hare]

That plays a factor but another way to look at it is the fact that North America in general is a much less safer place to fly compared to Europe. You get mental weather and airport procedures that haven’t been changed since the 90’s. Stuff like apron and pushbacks not being controlled at some fields is crazy but it’s SOP for a lot of places still.

[hollow oracle]

True, it’s like death by 1,000 cuts, it’s not one single factor but just a ton of tiny ones that are adding up to fatal consequences

[runic hare]

With cuts and stress being pushed on the US aviation sector and the FAA by the oranje man this really doesn’t ease it

I mean shit even at shorehan a GA airport down on the south coast you need tower permission to even start your engine

And you have 330’s in America that can push without anyone’s permission

That’s crazy

[hollow oracle]

It’s like the railroad industry, everybody says that it’s a ticking time bomb, when - not if - it’ll catastrophically fail

[runic hare]

I want to note as well. Over in Europe we have incidents as well, but no where near as bad as what’s currently happening in America. I think it doesn’t help as well that you guys put everything on CNN or whatever

Like you get slide deployments on the news

We have had 2 already this year at Stansted alone

[hollow oracle]

Don’t even get me started, ever since the East Palestine explosion, if an axle derails on a railcar in a yard it becomes state-level news

The media hyper-focuses on topics (like the aviation issues right now) which makes it seem way worse than it actually is

In the next month or so, we’ll probably forget this weird phase of air disasters even happened because the news would have moved on

[runic hare]

I don’t think it will honestly. I think these incidents are gonna keep happening

3 major incidents in a month and a half

This stuff is gonna keep happening I think

The FAA needs to take some pages out of EASAs book

[hollow oracle]

Idk, part of me thinks that there’s definitely going to be more major crashes like this and that this is completely off the rails, but the other part of me thinks that most of this is blown out of proportion

[runic hare]

So as someone who works on planes all day. This shit ain’t normal

Every single incident in the US can be attributed to human error

None are mechanical issues

Well

Technically the bering air accident was

But in the end they made errors

[hollow oracle]

I was going to say, I’m just not sure if these numbers so far were a normal thing or not from a layman’s perspective

[runic hare]

So North America will naturally have more incidents because of the weather

But this is far above average

Even the amount of light aircraft crashing has gone up

CRMS not being mandated anymore in training doesn’t help

In fact I think this is the single stupidest thing that’s happened

Almost every incident can be attributed to it

[hollow oracle]

Here’s a funny statistic, so far, on average, in the US, 2.8 people have died per day from plane crashes since Trump took office

[runic hare]

I wouldn’t put it all on trump either

That’s the thing

[hollow oracle]

That’s definitely true, but it is just funny timing how it all happened, as soon as he gets elected this all starts

[runic hare]

I don’t think all of this is his fault I think it’s just the lackluster procedures and outdated protocols that have been the same since the 90’s

But

[hollow oracle]

The stress from it all is absolutely a factor though

[runic hare]

His cuts are gonna permanently damage the FAA

I hate to say it but it’s everything

Even Boeing

Shocking

This is also quite funny

We have the old ACP’s on the non BSI aircraft and they are solid chunks of good plastic

This stuff you can fit your whole finger behind sometimes

Pin joints in the galleys as well

Also I’ll be taking bets on what’s wrong with the plane we are picking up in Malaga today

[hollow oracle]

1.6 per day on average since the beginning of the year, in just the US alone

[runic hare]

My money is on an APU INOP

Oh the online CTL hasn’t been updated

So idk what’s wrong with it yet

Last updated 20th Jan

Great

Thanks Ryanair

[reef isle]

Oh yeah

Most things related to the US govt are done

He just destroyed most of the DOJ yesterday

[runic hare]

Wheelchairs at emergency exits

[reef isle]

It's just a matter of time, I think this is going to be much longer than 4 years...

[runic hare]

Oh yeah at least 10 years

It’s good because they are doing it to themselves so they can’t blame the rest of the world on there fuckups

[reef isle]

You think it'll end? I think at the end of this the US will have elections that are as fair and democratic as Russia

[reef isle]

They are and people are buying it, so...

Maybe I'm just too much of a doomer, I hope I'm wrong

[runic hare]

No no

I think your right

There is no point in being all happy and positive about it because that’s dangerous

Everything might not be ok

[trail monolith]

Perfect landing

https://youtu.be/-7UvCPqnfP8?si=FSQLHrmCUE017Um6

[hollow oracle]

this is a hardware question, so im not sure if anyone would have an answer

but is there a way to reduce the centering springs on the thrustmaster airbus stick?

i feel like it is a lot stronger than it is irl, it takes quite a bit of force to overcome the center, especially when it comes to small movements

[rustic charm]

Tbh it’s probably possible but you’d have to actually tweak the thing itself. Changing the springs for weaker ones for example, or if there are multiple, reducing the number of springs it uses

[hollow oracle]

i cant find any teardown videos that show the insides, so im not sure if they use doubled stprings

[reef isle]

No unfortunately

The biggest reason is because there are no actual springs

If you have the TCA

It's just like the T16000

If you had the Ursa Minor, probably

I can on my Virpil, and I'm sure you also can with WinWing

I guess there's the big spring you could try to replace

But I don't think it's going to make a big difference

If your problem is overcoming the center you'll need to get one of the sticks I listed above

If you want to get a lighter spring I'm fairly sure you can take the stick apart, give the spring to a DIY store (or whatever they're called) and tell them if they have it, or if they can make you one

Sorry if it's gross (stick is like 4 years old, last year just being "in storage"), but before the sprint engages you have to take up some slack

That's why it's awkward around the center

@hollow oracle sorry it's awkward to show on video but hopefully you see the "issue", the first "bump" you have to overcome to get out of the center detent is caused by the way the joystick is built, a weaker spring might help, but it's not going to solve the issue

Also they added a stupid Deadzone to the Airbus sticks (or so I've heard) so that's going to make it feel worse out of the box

I'd personally recommend getting the Ursa Minor

I haven't found any exploded diagrams but I think the Ursa Minor has a very similar mechanism to the other WinWing and my Virpil stick, which is something more like this

Which doesn't have that center bump/detent

Also maybe look at the AvA if you want to remain with Thrustmaster, definitely better than the god awful Warthog

And has a very interesting mechanism, which supposedly works very well, it just has one damper in the middle, but it translates movement much better

[dusky leaf]

The virpils are lovely kit best things I ever bought for flightsim

[hollow oracle]

CRT moment

[hollow oracle]

its really awesome how fenix shut off their discord completely

im interested in just some easy peer-to-peer troubleshooting, but nope

nevermind, for some reason i wasnt a registered user

[hollow oracle]

the fenix just makes me feel happy all of the time

when it works, it works awesome, when it doesnt work, it makes me want to eat glass

i seemed to have fixed my main thread lag spikes with the fenix, which is good, but im not sure if its temporary, or if its going to last until landing

[hollow oracle]

it turns out that an airport that just had a weather-related accident is hard to land at

[hollow oracle]

what voltage do these giant hairdryers run at?

[reef isle]

doing some Air Nauru flying, currently doing RJFK-PGUM, second leg of this trip 😄

Guam-Nauru next (maybe tomorrow)?

so happy finally someone made the livery 😄

I think after I'm done with this I'll take a small break and then I'll do this, every excuse is good to land in Kai Tak 😄

also finally a good opportunity to fly with an airline that actually had the CIVA INS AFAIK

The only other one I'm aware of was Dan Air London (on the 727)

[rustic charm]

Wouldn’t all the older ones have it?

Also, does the plane work good for you?

[reef isle]

The FlyJsim?

yeah always had, lovely plane 😄

[reef isle]

No it was actually surprisingly rare on the 73s and 72s

most of them went straight from conventional to basic FMCs/GPS

[rustic charm]

Yeah don’t mind me, I thought it was the MSFS one at first lol

[reef isle]

in the US most remained conventional up until the '90s/2000s

[rustic charm]

Oh didn’t know they just remained as such

[reef isle]

yeah and in Europe as I said they got all kinds of weird retrofits, this is a RYR 732

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/8/6/7/0962768.jpg?v=v40

[rustic charm]

I guess then my common refusal to use INS (most of the time I just cba to enter all the waypoints, going VOR to VOR is often simpler) is justified

[reef isle]

INS existed mostly to cross oceans or big empty landmasses

[rustic charm]

That most certainly is weird

[reef isle]

that's why it was very common on many long haul planes (i.e. 747-100/200, L-1011, etc...) but it wasn't really needed on a 727 or 737

[rustic charm]

Well yeah, makes sense, no VORs there

Also that’s a wonderful new name to call Canada

[reef isle]

To be completely honest I've no idea why Dan Air has them, perhaps they planned to go to some weird places? Air Nauru flew this big transpacific routes

Before then they were fully dead reckoning with the F28

[rustic charm]

Dan Air did run 727s from the UK to Tenerife, a fair bit of that is overwater

[reef isle]

Yeah that's fair enough

yeah so, you either operated this kind of flights, or it wasn't really necessary

[rustic charm]

You can do it with barely any overwater operations, but that’s a fair detour

[reef isle]

even without the MCP that FMS seems to be a fairly common retrofit that loads of EU based 737-200s had fairly early (I want to say early/mid '80s)

and that's a lot more capable than the CIVA INS

and then of course in the late '80s they also had the modern honeywell FMC/UNS-1, some even got a ND

[rustic charm]

Makes sense they would already retrofit them, Classics entered service in ‘84 iirc, so making older things as close as possible to at least that was an option

[reef isle]

yeah, with time the remaining -200s became sort of a "steam gauge" classic in terms of avionics/navigation

(in Europe that is, as I said, in the US they didn't bother until they were pretty much out of service AFAIK)

[rustic charm]

And glass cockpits were a thing even earlier than classics after all

MD-80s were some of the first iirc, introduced in ‘80 and already had navigation displays I’m quite sure

[reef isle]

yeah just for my convience I kind of like to think that '50s/ early 60s were the first/second gen (Caravelle, Comet, 707), then from the mid/late '60s up until the mid/late '70s you had the "second" generation (727s, 737s, Trident, BAC 1-11, F28, etc...), then starting from the late '70s early '80s you start to get things like the A320, 737 Classic, MD-80s, etc...

[reef isle]

Uh I think the early MD-80s didn't

they had pretty much the DC-9 cockpit

[rustic charm]

Possibly tbh, I don’t know too much on that

[reef isle]

https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/3/83155_1396469720.jpg

[echo gorge]

Yeah the glass cockpit in the maddogs was introduced with the md88

Until that point it's was basically just a normal dc9 cockpit

[rustic charm]

Is the default MSFS 747 any flyable? I wanna do some freight but I don’t have the 77F/MD11 and the 727 is a bit broken

[hollow oracle]

https://www.azfamily.com/2025/02/19/2-dead-after-2-planes-crash-marana/

[hollow oracle]

It is very flyable, I had some issues with fuel but I’m 99% sure I had set it up incorrectly

I did a trans-Atlantic EDDF-KJFK flight in it, and a UPS flight in it too, the only real downside to the freight version is that no doors are animated, it’s just decals for the panel seams

[rustic charm]

Wish it was a -400 and not an -8 tbh

[hollow oracle]

i think everybody does, barely anyone actually operates the -8

[rustic charm]

Well no tbf a fair few airlines fly the -8, I just wish it was a -400 to properly fly Rossiya, since they returned 2 into service

[hollow oracle]

15 operators (8 with more than 1) of the -400 vs 13 (5 with more than 1) for the -8,

[full plank]

im still clinging on to the PMDG 747 & P3D.. just for the 744 & sometimes the 748

[hollow oracle]

i am scared of flying gauges, but if its PMDG, i will really consider it

im not against learning an aircraft im not familiar with if its made by a competent dev (aside from the embraers)

[rustic charm]

Tbh if you wanna learn gauges, go JF. The F28 is wonderful

[reef isle]

Just Flight is just as good, if not better than PMDG.

iFly is better than PMDG too

they haven't been at the top for a long time

[hollow oracle]

I said this on Reddit and got absolutely dunked on

[reef isle]

No it's definitely right hahah

That Flight Model is leaps and bounds above any other MSFS airliner

I think the iFly isn't quite as polished and refined

[hollow oracle]

I’m planning on doing another max 8 flight now that I got some settings figured out, so hopefully I can learn to love it again

[runic hare]

Yeah PMDG have just gone downhill since P3D v3 I would say

It used to be momentous to have and purchase a PMDG product now it’s just shit

The PMDG 737 was leaps and bounds above anything else in P3D

Same with the 777

And the 747

[trail monolith]

If yall don't mind me asking what's yall opinion on inibuilds aircraft's?

[hollow oracle]

I’ve flown their A300 and A320neo, and the A300 is great, the 20neo is a really weird miss

[rustic charm]

The A300 is great I’ve heard, the A310 is also quite good

The A350 to be honest seems bit overpriced, that’s a steep number to ask overall

But well, of course I’m only gonna actually judge the A350 once (if) I try it

[rustic charm]

PMDG is not at the top for a long time now, but there are people who claim they still are and refuse to let anyone think otherwise. Plus of course, PMDG themselves think they’re the one and only, the single best

I remember opening PMDG facebook, seeing “Our Fearless Leader Robert Randazzo” and thinking “That’s some DPRK kind of stuff”

[reef isle]

Mediocre

[trail monolith]

They have alot pf Airbuses in the FS24 The A310 A320 the A330 series The Beluga The Atlas then as payware the A300 and soon the A350 and in the future possibly the A380

[dusky leaf]

Pain - spent 3 days installing ortho on an x-plane reinstall after a hd upgrade. Thats just for BC and Alaska. No wonder msfs 💩 is popular 😆

[hollow oracle]

i still am extremely tempted to get the MSFS premium delux epic gamer cyberpunk edition extended 2024 just for the beluga/A330/A321/C-17, but im still too scared to make the jump

im genuinely worried about how reliant it is on having an internet conenction, MSFS already takes up about 100GB/month, and MSFS 2024 is probably like 10x as bad

[trail monolith]

https://youtu.be/kCtHeokbrtY?si=vs-HkEh4pMIiPvtQ

[rustic charm]

Seems like it is only today, around a year after starting to fly, I can now say I have experienced MSFS. This was the first time that I had my game just give up right before landing