Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[topaz geyser]

"My Gulfstream is in the shop, hate when it happens." — "Just fly Yak-42!"

[full plank]

funny how they do all sorts of documents for the 5 people that are gonna read it

& the trillion others that are too retarded to understand & jump on the network anyway

[topaz geyser]

IVAO were assholes to me, so I responded in kind tenfold and proud of it.

Of course I'll never be let on anymore, but it's like being banned from McDonald's when you can afford an upscale place next to it.

[topaz geyser]

It's not funny, it's tragic.

At least I know that in my community people read documentation, and use it. So it's about picking your crowd.

[full plank]

I might just join Vatsim tomorrow, just to see everything going to shit

[topaz geyser]

Please don't.

Don't make it worse than it already is.

[full plank]

I will either way tbh, I never said anything about flying the A380

I've been on the network long enough to know how to act

[topaz geyser]

Okay. We need more sane people on the network.

So if you're up for actually reading stuff, you're more than welcome.

Wait, by "join" you mean "login"?

I interpreted it as "register."

[full plank]

oh nah nah, just login

like I said, I've been on Vatsim for long enough to know what to do/what not to do

[topaz geyser]

Okay. Pardon my wariness.

Carry on.

[full plank]

took me god knows how long to be comfortable enough flying the Concorde to fly that bad boy on Vatsim

the IAD controllers were very pleased with my performance

[topaz geyser]

Fair enough.

[hollow oracle]

I’m going to do my first ever VATSIM flight specifically for the A380

[trim harbor]

vatsim is not hard if you arent an idiot and u can read

just log in as an obeserver a few times and listen along

[shadow burrow]

No VNAV, No GLS, half the fail modes don’t work

I mean….

[trim harbor]

i havent had issues with vnav

but

freeware
alpha

theres a difference in it being $80 and free

so cant be harsh

[topaz geyser]

Speaking of no GLS, one thing I actually love about MD-11 is that it can't do RNP, not the version by Rotate at least.

I mean, it's technically selectable, but you can't even check ANP, so it's not authorized.

[echo gorge]

No vnav on a modern tube is pretty killer

But it's a freeware that will be updated over time which is fair enough

[trim harbor]

false

@shadow burrow what u talm about

GLS is a bummer but i cannot remember ever flying one

[lethal jasper]

Vnav available. Yet can only prec app in fpa? Okay 🫠

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/average-ryanair-flight-plane-crash-ryanair-ryanair-landing-plane-ryanair-gif-27175275

(i know the front is supposed to be airstairs, i dont know how to get it to work with GSX)

[shadow burrow]

Oh I ain’t played it read it wasn’t functional?

[shadow burrow]

GLS is cool

It’s a shame I’m working today would love to sit in observer mode at EGLL with some Pringles and watch the chaos unfold

[topaz geyser]

FPA is not vertical guidance, wtf?

My respect for those people was at neutral zero, now it kinda leaned into the negative.

Before A380 was a curse of the developer community, now it's a curse of eberyone.

[hollow oracle]

im just kind of happy that my hypothesis that this release was going to be an utter mess was validated

fixed, for some reason when auto-importing a flight plan, it uses the wrong cruise altitude, most likely it auto-inputs the calculated best cruise and not the planned

starting to descend from an altitude under cruise, the plane freaks out and is like "dont you want to climb to cruise actually before you start descent?"

it only just occured to me, that its meant to mirror the actual built-in EFB in the dreamliner

a screenshot from xplane, but you get the idea

[shadow burrow]

I mean you have IRL ones like this tho

The built in ones from the 777 and 787 aren’t really “efb’s”

They don’t usually connect to the pilots network to grab perf data

Pilots will still have an iPad as there own personal Crew Device

[mild zenith]

Extract air stairs and then call the stairs

[shadow burrow]

Oh great our plane is fucked

[shadow burrow]

Cool

It’s not that foggy tbf

[trim harbor]

lmfao

oh don't worry

u have a few days

[woeful elbow]

rip vatsim a380 is out

[trim harbor]

servers down

rip vatsim in a few hours

[woeful elbow]

Might just abort flight

gatwicks going to be riddled

[rustic charm]

Just divert to Luton, ain’t nobody wanna go there

[full plank]

hell yea

[trim harbor]

where liveries : (

[full plank]

aw hell nah

[trim harbor]

emirates is out

[woeful elbow]

Nahh

[spare coral]

I fly planes in BeamNG. can I post my stuff here or should I move to the BeamNG channel?

[woeful elbow]

[spare coral]

same bro

[dusty sky]

my lord the A380 is huge

[dusty sky]

holy

that's amazing

[woeful elbow]

Im considering diverting

[rustic charm]

I’d quite like to try it out once I can but my laptop probably won’t handle it lol

[untold finch]

Yes

[dusty sky]

was talking in gb but still

[untold finch]

You could pretty much feed the 737 through an A380 engine nacelle

[spare coral]

you guys, I shouldve kept MSFS in my library

A380 making me drool fr

[trim harbor]

logo lights still broken

[untold finch]

Hope it's a quick and easy process for FBW to get it running in FS24

I don't wanna get my simpit back out of storage until then

[dusty sky]

what plane?

[woeful elbow]

737 max

ofc

[rustic charm]

Tbf it looks like that but it doesn’t entirely fit

[rustic charm]

The 737 fuselage is iirc around 3 3/4m in diameter, and both variants of the fans on the 388 are just short of 3m in diameter

[trim harbor]

either i forgot to turn hyd on or they're broken

[dusty sky]

I chose a bad airport for this

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

Still no flying honu, why even live

[woeful elbow]

can yall not fly into gatwick 🙏

[dusty sky]

I'm not

I'm on the other side of the world lmao

[woeful elbow]

im actually consdering diverting

[trim harbor]

pretty

[hollow oracle]

theres a new a320neo update too guys

[dusty sky]

yeah I got it

[woeful elbow]

Hopefully within the hour the 380's get outta london gatwick

🙏

[trim harbor]

you're forgetting that planes arrive it seems

[woeful elbow]

well atm theres none due to arrive

[woeful elbow]

well fuck sake

[hollow oracle]

LMAO

[woeful elbow]

AJAHAHA

[trim harbor]

holy fuck

[woeful elbow]

yeahhhhhhh gonna be logging off vatsim before gatwick

100%

acc gonna do it now atp

[dusty sky]

why the hell is there a C17 at perth

also how do I close the window

[woeful elbow]

alt+f4

vatsim is fucked for the next 4 days

until it calms down

xd

[dusty sky]

lol

wdym alt f4

[woeful elbow]

if on vatsim just alt+f4

[dusty sky]

on the A380

[woeful elbow]

yes

100%

dont use vatsim

xd

[dusty sky]

huh

[woeful elbow]

omfg ur acc so unable to use your eyes?!

@hollow oracle explain wht im saying please

xd

[dusty sky]

bro I opened the pilot window on the A380 and I don't know how to close it

I'm not talking about vatsim

[hollow oracle]

?

ah yes, the famous american A380s, and their route between denver and minneapolis

[woeful elbow]

💀

[dusty sky]

💀

[woeful elbow]

LMFAOO

[full plank]

didn't know Emirated did domestic US flights

[woeful elbow]

RIP EGLL

@hollow oracle

LMAO

[dusty sky]

what about heathrow?

[hollow oracle]

not as bad as dubai

actually, here's europe sorted by just A380, both volanta and VATSIM traffic

[woeful elbow]

[dusty sky]

why are there A380's in bucharest

[hollow oracle]

no idea

[dusty sky]

they're too fat for the airport there

[trim harbor]

welp 5 hours till i land

boring now

[dusty sky]

you can program the MCDU?

[woeful elbow]

Im about to wake the cabin up

[hollow oracle]

*bing-bong* hey the FBW A380 just released yall mind if i max this max 8 so i can switch to that

[woeful elbow]

Over the alps rn

seatbelts on

meal service xd

[dusty sky]

I'm so dumb I can't program the MCDU 👍

[hollow oracle]

[woeful elbow]

[dusty sky]

huh

[limber spire]

finally

A380

[hollow oracle]

actually, heres something really funny, this is what it actually looks like irl

weather

[woeful elbow]

55 mins to landing into LGW

[woeful elbow]

disconnected from vatsim

[dusty sky]

lmao

[trim harbor]

goddamn

[dusty sky]

0.1% of the planes on that map aren't the flybywire A380

maybe less

[woeful elbow]

I managed to do the flight from LCPH To EGKK in under 4 hours

RIGHT Time to go do a barrel roll in a 380

BRUH

SIMBREIF IS DOWN

LMFAO

xd

Ok

[dusty sky]

how do I know the cruise wind?

and what do I put in CO RTE

can someone help me program this damn FMC 😭

[dusty sky]

europe is filled with them god damn

what about america?

[hollow oracle]

not nearly as bad, but still pretty bad

[dusty sky]

oh my lord the A380's at atlanta

no wonder

am I even there?

[trim harbor]

i see myselfff

[hollow oracle]

im waiting for a flying honu livery

[trim harbor]

one of my friends has it i think

wouldnt be suprised

[hollow oracle]

i tried my hand at the paint kit but its pretty bad

its basically the external shell of the model, and a single 8k white square

[trim harbor]

isnt that all u need l

lol

just do it in blender

[hollow oracle]

yes, but theres really no like, what texture goes where

i guess i could group all of the models by material, but still

[dusty sky]

why the hell can't I steer on the ground

[woeful elbow]

Man ran out of engines

[dusty sky]

bru

[hollow oracle]

sully moment

[dusty sky]

ngl weather in atlanta isn't very good

bruh my auto pilot is kinda funny

[untold finch]

Happens in real life

[dusty sky]

actually?

[untold finch]

Yeah

https://youtu.be/TeOo_6uW4Ro

I think the RCAF once landed one at Heathrow
They can land in 2/3rds of the runway length that an A320 needs so it's not too bad at it

[dusty sky]

how do I turn off the little waypoints?

nevermind

hey hey

hope I don't end up in the Everglades

it's so choppy bruh

oh lord

[glass totem]

Did the a380 release today

[hollow oracle]

no

[dusty sky]

well I died

[full plank]

we're all flying the bredok 380

[hollow oracle]

taking off and landing exclusively from aircraft carriers

i was going to lose my A380 virginity with the ANA flight, but i think im going to do emmy rats to get it started i guess

its hard to judge if liveries are actually good or rushed by just the thumbnails too, but that emirates old livery one is pretty damn good

hues by horizon just uploaded a few liveries too, so those are instant downloads

[dusty sky]

pitch trim 1 and 2 fault but they aren't turning on

bruh why is a C17 parking at my gate

[hollow oracle]

i think the a380 is easily the worst performing thing ive ever seen for this sim

currently averaging less than 1 FPS

[dusty sky]

Wonder why that is

Totally not because it's a massive plane with a lot of detail

[trim harbor]

gamer keyboard

[trim harbor]

r u running 4 or 8k

because 4k runs smooth as hell for me

i'd argue the fenix runs worse

[hollow oracle]

4k

though, it was first time load i guess

[dusty sky]

How do you get the keyboard?

And how do I make it rgb

[untold finch]

A380 🤷‍♂️
B-1B 👍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7UjXKThjDA

truly the golden age of flight simming

[trim harbor]

ayo it looks good as hel

[untold finch]

I guess Dyess AFB is going to be busy on Volanta for a few days

[reef isle]

why modern cockpit

all my interested in this plane wanished in a second

I was about to write, if the flight model is decent it seems like fun

then I got to 1:03 on the trailer, and I was just like. Ugh

[untold finch]

i will agree that this was cooler

[trim harbor]

on approach

[reef isle]

I fucking hate this awful trend of only making retroffit planes

P180, OBVIOUSLY flightFX is only doing the II and the Evo

[untold finch]

tbf the B-1B has had a glass cockpit for over a decade now

so it's not new new

but yeah, desert storm era would have been nice

[reef isle]

In terms of aircraft "over a decade" is quite new

https://i0.wp.com/www.fromtheskies.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Piaggio-P.180-14°-Stormo-Aeronautica-Militare-6.jpg?ssl=1

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

who wants that

[untold finch]

me i do

i like old i like new

[reef isle]

If I see an avionic package that is not a G1000 or G3000 (or equivalment) I'm going to vomit

-every flight sim developer apart from JF and Blacksquare

Even blackbird wanted to do the 737-200 with the full glass cockpit Nolinor retrofit

WTF

Why

what's the point

[untold finch]

i can forgive blackbird

they are doing the blackbird after all

can't glass cockpit that

[hollow oracle]

It appears I won’t be flying the A380 tonight

It’s so bad performing that it completely disables my PC, as well as being extremely laggy

i took a nap, just got back, and it looks like it finally is running at 10-15FPS

my PC is bad, but its playable with the fenix, this is unplayable

sorry for the ping, im dumb

keyboard is under tray table

i will be making an RGB gamer keyboard mod

i lost where you click on the tray table to fold it down

ah, i broke the tray table animation, thats why its not working

[lethal jasper]

Did you install the 4k or 8k FBW A380

[hollow oracle]

4k

aaaand my game just crashed

no, it didnt, its so laggy that it keeps going on the verge of death but then it revives for a single frame

i dont think my game is performing fast enough to fly this

it needs atleast 17fps and im easily getting 5 and under

[trim harbor]

4k

[hollow oracle]

i just want to preface it by saying: i know its freeware, open source, and in an inital alpha release but, if your looking for an A380 to fly, its not the right aircraft for that, im very much not satisfied with the performance

they really have everybody by the balls when it comes to the A380, because you cant complain about a product thats intentionally being worked on and free, but im going to say it, it just doesnt really fill the A380 void quite yet

it can be free and alpha, and also be not satisfiying, both can be true

though, i will say that my performance has very gradually gotten better as this flight has gone on, most likely from things getting slowly worked on in the background, and as i use systems and sounds and things, those are getting loaded in too

[dusty sky]

Any medium-ish haul flight I can do in the A380?

[woeful elbow]

Going to do a test flight

from EGLL TO LFPG

[lethal jasper]

define medium

[dusty sky]

hmmmm

idk 5-ish hours

maybe

[lethal jasper]

to name a few

One of those weird gaps tbh, anything less than 5h30m is 3hr flights

[shadow burrow]

wtf are vatsim doing? Like actually?

I’ve seen zero bans handed out so far and I’ve found just this morning looking on my phone 10-15 aircraft running A388’s into or out of airports they cannot handle?

I think it may be time to re subscribe to pilotedge…..

You can say whatever you want, remind people of the rules but if you don’t actually enforce them then what’s the point

[lethal jasper]

Fair, did you see Orlando for Cross The Pond? 77W at gates that can't handle them irl

[shadow burrow]

CTP is always like this

When you specifically say your gonna enforce these rules

Then don’t

What’s the point of having the rules to begin with

[rustic charm]

Tbh gates that can’t handle them isn’t that big of a deal imo. I constantly fly into airports I don’t know and I often have no idea where you would realistically park a specific plane. It’s a different story when you’re trying to fly an approach normally and a dozen 380s decide to attack the airport

[woeful elbow]

^^

[woeful elbow]

messed up something lol

[trim harbor]

@hollow oracle

https://flightsim.to/file/83879/all-nippon-airways-ana-green-turtle-ja382a-flybywire-airbus-a380x-8k

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppet-muppets-sesame-street-gif-17065988936300853353

^ me after flying the flying honu to hawaii

[trim harbor]

@hollow oracle here

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/18ieCJH9x20SlrB4ysPPP07E4Ik_WMme9soT08bqsIDw/mobilebasic?pli=1

take this as well

[hollow oracle]

PC died trying to do this lol

Tried converting the 8K textures, blew up my RAM and killed my PC instantly

No blue screen, it just stops responding and the monitors time out because they’re getting no signal from the GPU anymore

[trim harbor]

u should conver the 4k textures

not hthe 8k

[hollow oracle]

You convert 8K down to 4k right?

And then down the list, 4k to 2k, 2k to 1024

[mild zenith]

There is a 4k version on the flybywire installer no need to convert

[hollow oracle]

I have the 4k version installed

[mild zenith]

Oh ok

[hollow oracle]

the 4k version still has 8k textures for some reason

[hollow oracle]

doing the 8k texture conversion in small chunks worked

[hollow oracle]

this helped MASSIVELY

hoping they actually work that into the official release soon

still on the laggier side, comparing to the PMDG 777 atleast, but its way better now

well, either that helped, or just the fact that its the second time ive run it and its loaded in even further

🥲

[full plank]

see if it wasn't for the fact I had work tomorrow, i'd set up a long haul

ideally a continuation of the Heathrow-Dubai-Sydney shit I did last night, ended up landing in haram country this morning

[shadow burrow]

A380 this.... Superjumbo that....

Where my 744 fans at?

[full plank]

please don't make me reinstall P3D

[shadow burrow]

One thing I'm well chuffed we have in XP

[full plank]

I genuinely considered it a few days ago

[shadow burrow]

don't

everything you see in this screenshot bar the sim is freeware

[full plank]

yeh but that involves reinstalling x-plane

& I cannot be bothered with that

[shadow burrow]

easier than P3D

[full plank]

true, but still

[shadow burrow]

and you wont brick it by installing a livery

[full plank]

its tempting, but i'll have to hold out till PMDG releases theirs

would be the only aircraft i'd actually install the sim for anyway

[shadow burrow]

fair enough

the sparky isn't great anyway

[full plank]

same with P3D & the Concorde.. only just the basic shit to fly it & nothing more

[shadow burrow]

very functional but very buggy

also done in the old P3D way of ground services in the 3rd FMC 😭

why was this a thing btw?

[full plank]

oh yea that was some bullshit, always forgot the chocks annoyingly

atleast with the Concorde, everything seemed to work alright

only shit thing is GSX, but eh nothing surprises me anymore

[shadow burrow]

oh god

GSX Level 2

oh

I have work in 7h

gg

no sleep for me ig

[trim harbor]

sleep in the plane

during to n lnd

[dusty sky]

I finally got a rug to put my rudder pedals down again

Finally I won't have to use the rudder axis on the flight stick

[hollow oracle]

gambling time

im really getting my money's worth with the max 8, like i did with the MD-11, 6 flight hours in 5 days

[shadow burrow]

They changed my shift

I am now going to Morocco again

[dusty sky]

why did I have to ignite my engines twice

[mild zenith]

why does my simbrief not work 😭

[dusty sky]

I hate that is takes 5 years for the instruments to align

[tardy hedge]

Might re download MSFS just for the a380

[tardy hedge]

True

[trim harbor]

everyones' expecting msfs2024 to work with everything instantly

just use 2020 for a while

[woeful elbow]

on-route to egkk

[trim harbor]

i like btv

[trim harbor]

@hollow oracle https://flightsim.to/file/83938/flybywire-a380x-downscaled-cockpit-textures-fps-stutter-improvement

[hollow oracle]

This is a stupid ass question, but should 1TB be enough to install MSFS + addons?

I have an external drive that should be quicker than my current one, that should fit MSFS

My current one goes at a snails pace, like 10mb/s, barely manages to update steam games it’s so slow

[tardy hedge]

Yes

That should be more than enough

[rustic charm]

I mean, depends on how much stuff you will eventually install, but should be enough if you don’t go all crazy installing every single aircraft and scenery

[hollow oracle]

I was going to say, I think my main MSFS install folder on my PC is almost 1TB

[green egret]

if you have trouble finding routes, i recommend installing flightsimdispatch, you can find weekly schedules for any aircraft and any time period all for free

[lethal jasper]

Pretty much the same with SimBitWorld's random flight generator

[topaz geyser]

Certified YouTube Comments moment.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560976424010383365/1302515189324972124/Screenshot_20241103_030923_YouTube.jpg?ex=6728654c&is=672713cc&hm=c742c5912bfe6d0edd2b35cc18583379fb3fa94343fbae2aeec678f1749f3099&

Somehow the level of ignorance, delusion, and hate beats Twitter.

[trim harbor]

i like thranda

their stuff is good imo

[topaz geyser]

Oh, Thranda made some of my favorite products.

[dusty sky]

Third party devs don't exist now I see

[topaz geyser]

Hm?

Not sure what are you saying.

[dusty sky]

Nevermind

[dusty sky]

is that FSX?

[reef isle]

Xplane 11

My FSX is completely stock in terms of visuals, so you'd definitely recognise it 😄

[dusty sky]

X-plane 11 looks so bad now because of X-plane 12

[shadow burrow]

Nah this is just stock XP11

[shadow burrow]

What CSL is that btw?

[reef isle]

What is CSL?

Some model matching?

[shadow burrow]

Ye

[reef isle]

I have none of that stuff

I just have the planes I fly and Active Sky

[shadow burrow]

No the A380

What is it from?

[reef isle]

Default

Or at least I didn't do anything for that to be there

[shadow burrow]

Uhhhhhh

Hmmmmm

Interesting

If you want to fly on vatsim I would recommend X-CSL

[reef isle]

Yeah, I was surprised I could actually see people as A380s (and the livery was correct too)

[shadow burrow]

https://csl.x-air.ru/?lang_id=43

[reef isle]

Nah, don't care, if I need to follow people at airports I just see the callsigns, or watch vatsim radar

[shadow burrow]

It’s probably bluebellCSL, I think it comes with Xpilot now for free

[reef isle]

Could be 🤷‍♂️

[shadow burrow]

It doesn’t include anything old

[reef isle]

Neither does VATSIM hahaha

[shadow burrow]

[reef isle]

But yeah, jokes apart, yeah I remember seeing 742s as 744s and stuff like that so it's probably that

I essentially don't care much about things that are not the plane I fly and the weather around me

Ahahah

[shadow burrow]

Fair enough

I got the Rotate MD11P last night was gonna send it on a long haul decided against it

Might do something fun today but I have some busy business

[reef isle]

As always, I need to fly the MD11 more 😭

But not now that it's crazy with all the 380s

[rustic charm]

Folks anybody here uses simfx in msfs? Is it worth it? I kinda wanna buy the base pack and the 737 pack, but idk

[full plank]

I mean if you like effects then sure?

I own simfx + 777 + 737 & they look nice I guess

[trim harbor]

whats a good GA plane for msfs

[rustic charm]

Yeah, already got the base pack and the 737, they sure do look great

Hopefully eventually they will do a pack for the 727. Would be lovely

[full plank]

I think its not too bad a price, converted to my local currency its pretty much pennies as far as flight sim is concerned

looks nice whenever the effects are there, not much in gameplay department but for what it costs its alright I suppose

[rustic charm]

I’ll agree there tbh

Doesn’t cost too much compared to other stuff

[trim harbor]

aaa the 727 is $40

goddamnit

dont really wanna spend money on aerosoft either

[rustic charm]

$40 is a wonderful price tbh

And as for the other problem

It’s sold on JustFlight too

[trim harbor]

is it_

[rustic charm]

And it will get you JustFlight reward points too

[trim harbor]

oh

bruh thats good then

[rustic charm]

Was really positively surprised when I noticed it on the website

So tempted to get it myself but am trying to wait for the passenger variant

[trim harbor]

im really tempted as well

lemme see the range of a 727 though

[rustic charm]

Quite short

[trim harbor]

i'd really want a 732

atleasti n xp12

[rustic charm]

I’d love one too

So tiny

Pretty much a racecar

[topaz geyser]

Impossible, there's no A380 in default XP11 in any shape or form.

[reef isle]

@topaz geyser

[topaz geyser]

Ah hm.

Fair enough.

[reef isle]

I certainly didn't install anything

[topaz geyser]

It's very much coming.

FJS is progressing, slower than expected, but it is, I can't share details.

It's not already out yet partially because of Jack's pride, there're few issues he absolutely wants to fix before the release.

[trim harbor]

as long as the performance isnt as terrible

as the q400 is

im fine w waiting

[shadow burrow]

crying

can you guess what they were flying?

[rustic charm]

A trijet

I’d have to say MD11

[shadow burrow]

Rotate MD11P

but the comm

[dusty sky]

My ears

What airline may I ask?

Oh nevermind

I really need to try to get vatsim to run, main problem is that I don't really know how to program the fmc/mcdu

[trim harbor]

the most important thing on vatsim is to know ur plane inside out

how to fly every approach type

how to do holdings

how to do directs

and cope with manual MCP flying

[dusty sky]

Oh no I'm cooked

I can't even pull off a random approach properly

[hollow oracle]

Personally, the C172 + the enhancement mod

A lot of good features and stuff for a free mod, classic Cessna overwing, it just works™️

[topaz geyser]

The absolute best one is obviously A2A Comanche.

Nothing beats AccuSim, period.

[echo gorge]

Have to second that, the a2a Comanche is a joy

Beyond that I'd recommend blacksquare's planes they're excellent as well

[topaz geyser]

I think the only thing that is on par or beats AccuSim for any sim is the products by HotStart for X-Plane, for 12 only the Challenger, for 11 also a TBM900.

[echo gorge]

If only hotstart made the older versions of their planes

[shadow burrow]

the challenger is in both 11 and 12

[topaz geyser]

Yes, that's what I meant.

For 11 both, for 12 only Challenger.

[shadow burrow]

ooga booga A220 when

ah i see

[topaz geyser]

I need to get the thing already.

Will finally get the bonus next week, and I haven't made myself a proper Birthday present, so I guess I should.

[rustic charm]

I mean, to be honest, what’s the issue?

Really you just have to know how to change it in the FMC quickly, that’s it pretty much

Approaches themselves? If you’re confused by anything, just read the chart for the approach

[topaz geyser]

The guy on comms? A380 I imagine.

[alpine coral]

After 800 hours and nearly 3 years of playing this sim, it was only today I realized that lens correction makes things more blurry and more difficult to to interact with instruments

[topaz geyser]

Why would you even have it on?

Lens flare doesn't exist in real life. You only see it on bad photos.

[alpine coral]

I don't know

Never crossed my mind

[topaz geyser]

Inadequte A380 count: 3.

Two at KSEA (shouldn't be there, period), and one at PHNL (was stopping on each taxiway for 2-3 minutes and wasn't talking on CTAF at all).

[trim harbor]

@shadow burrow yooo

[dusty sky]

747-400 my beloved

[shadow burrow]

Yeah ikr

Wasn’t even that good of a shot

[rustic charm]

Welp, I bought the 722F

Time to test it out

[trim harbor]

lmk how it is

[rustic charm]

Alrighty, I will

I already loaded in once, and the cockpit looks quite nice. It’s just very dark, that’s why I decided to reload somewhere where it’s daytime lol

[trim harbor]

@rustic charm any news?

[rustic charm]

So after a couple test laps I can say some things. Although I haven’t yet tried out any systems really.

• The model looks brilliant in my opinion. I genuinely like it.
• The sounds I can’t really comment on in terms of accuracy, since I’ve never heard it in reality. But I can say that it does sound old, which does enough for me.
• Flight model is… definitely a change from the 737s. Now again, I can’t comment on accuracy - I’ve never flown these in reality, and probably, even though I’d love to, never will. But I can note some things. 1) You’ll genuinely have to pull back a fair bit on takeoff. That feels realistic. With underwing engines like on 737s the thrust would push you forward and pitch you up. With the 727s engine configuration, the thrust would push you directly forward and maybe even just a slight bit down. It doesn’t rotate nearly as easily. 2) This might be my hardware issue because I am still on keyboard (It’s been a year now), but it doesn’t like changing the pitch too much. I gotta really push the keys for it to change, but again, probably a keyboard issue.

Oh and another thing - you can have a fair bit of differences on the plane. From proper old airframes, to retrofitted ones. There is an option for autothrottle, you can obviously select between 2 navigation systems (original INS and modern GPS) for now, with the third being in development. You can even have winglets on it if you want to.

The clipboard (your EFB) is quite nice too. I like that they went and did it as an actual clipboard and not an ipad - that would’ve felt very out of place. It does allow you to change the state of the plane, calculate takeoff/descent/landing, and lots you view charts too if you have access to those

Also a tiny detail which takes barely any effort, but a nice one at that - the plane has custom loading screens. None of the other planes I have do that. Does nothing really, but still nice I guess

[tardy hedge]

uh?

[tardy hedge]

This shit is the most complicated thing i have ever used

Even the 737 one is easier

[naive nova]

Makes me want a GARMIN airliner ahahahaha. Airbus got fancy screens but software design stuck in the 80s.

[tardy hedge]

at least on the a320 you can type on the keyboard and put in which airway you want next

[tardy hedge]

if anyone can help me fix this id be pleased

[hollow oracle]

im so confused how real airlines do flights like KSAN-RJAA

like, my TOW is way over whats allowed, simbrief is like "meh, youll make it", but i had to reject takeoff because i was just not gaining enough speed

dropped the flaps even lower this time around, if i cant do it second try then im going back to the gate

worked fine the second time around

[rustic charm]

You can also select higher thrust too

[trim harbor]

thank youi!!!!!

im really thinking of buying it

[rustic charm]

No problem

It really is a nice plane, but it most definitely will take some adjusting

[hollow oracle]

can you? i was already at max TO

i thought the TO-20 and TO-10 were derates

[rustic charm]

I’ve completed my first flight in it, and I can say, I genuinely got task saturated. Managing the throttles (cause the autothrottle was not on the plane) while trying to follow all the gauges (screens definitely make it easier) and trying to capture the glideslope… I can only say that resulted in me coming within 250ft of the ground around a mile before threshold due to a stall

[rustic charm]

Those do sound like derates

Honestly I’m not familiar with the dreamliner at all

[hollow oracle]

i mean, you didnt crash, which is instantly better than any aerosucre flight

[rustic charm]

But sometimes there’s the full thrust, derated thrust but also bump thrust. I am not sure if that would ever be used in normal operation tbh. But basically, you can squeeze more than full thrust out of the engines sometimes

[rustic charm]

I mean, we don’t have FDRs so I can’t say exactly, but it sure felt like I came within 50ft from crashing

[hollow oracle]

it makes me feel happy knowing that, even just flying in MSFS with an xbox controller, i am already more qualified than most pilots at aerosucre

[rustic charm]

MD11?

[dusty sky]

Looks like it

That looks like x plane

Could be mistaken though

[full plank]

no thats msfs

[shadow burrow]

EGSS - RKSI Any% new WR sub 9h

idk what the fuck has been up with the winds recently

121 tail is mental

[topaz geyser]

Probably the most curious thing about MD-11 is how she trims the CG with the tail fuel tank.

Basically the same thing that Concorde needs the FE to do constantly.

[topaz geyser]

Bay Visual into SEA again.

[mild zenith]

No you're not

[hollow oracle]

I was being funny, because their safety record is so insanely bad

[lethal jasper]

iFly...max8

[green egret]

yes tfdi

[trim harbor]

fenix sharks this week

[hollow oracle]

have they said if sharklets will be free or not

because im good financially to finally get the A321/A319, and i dont want to get it now and find out i have to pay even more for the sharklets

[trim harbor]

@hollow oracle

[dusty sky]

Ah yes, that £50 plane that has working circuit breakers

Still can't believe it's only £50

Me staring at all of those high quality planes that are too expensive for me to get

[rustic charm]

My second flight in the 727 done. For now got bit more feedback, cause this time it was with a full startup from cold & dark. The systems seem to be working fine. Also has some little nueances that really differenciate it from the 73NG in terms of startup. I initially thought I would be able to do it with just my knowledge from the 73. And to be fair, in terms of actions.... it's similar, but still different. The main thing that killed me was the cockpit layout - spent waaayyy too much time looking for everything. Very different from the NG obviously.

I did not really like how it taxied. Feels bit too sluggish. Plus for me it was constantly veering off to the side, even though there wasn't anything that would've really prompted it to. Turning around in it is a bit painful, you gotta almost stop in order to get at least some ability to turn. Not ultra big issues, but a bit annoying. Personally wouldn't really count those as bad points, but wanted to put it out here.

I have a thing to say about ILS... firstly, if you go ILS, expect to be absolutely TERRIFIED. I have no idea, maybe it's accurate? Or maybe I've done something wrong? I never exclude that option, I make mistakes quite a lot. But it did not do an ILS approach as we are used to. It would just drop the nose down crazily, and then level off. And then repeat. Genuinely, scary.

A thing to say about LOCs too. It does not really tolerate going away from the path. I feel like that is realistic. But at the same time, wanna just put it here. I tried going for the localizer 3 times. First 2 times, approaching it at a 90-degree angle, as you would quite often do to be fair. But if you do that, genuinely watch the speed - if you are going too fast (I was doing around 160kts IAS with gear down and flaps 40) it can easily start turning, then not have enough space, shoot through the localizer and go off it on the other side. It will just keep the heading it left on, and you're not gonna be landing.

[hollow oracle]

doing the alaskan milk run sounded fun today, i completely forgot that involves doing RNAV landings

not an issue in airbus, it is an issue in boeing, because i dont know how to do go arounds in boeing aircraft

[shadow burrow]

oh thats cool

[rustic charm]

It doesn’t

I’ve flown to each and every milk run airport

Every single one has an ILS/LDA

You can avoid RNAV at all

[hollow oracle]

whats an LDA?

i saw RNAV at juneau

[rustic charm]

I’ve only flown RNAV once I’m pretty sure overall, and that’s the circular RNAV into Anchorage

[rustic charm]

A type of approach. Pretty sure it’s a precision approach too. Involves a localizer and a glideslope

[hollow oracle]

id honestly prefer to just do an RNAV rather than try to figure out the LDA, it looks like its essentially an ILS that isnt lined up with the runway basically, you can take the ILS down, but then you have to correct to land

[rustic charm]

The only thing about LDAs is that they’re pretty much always not gonna bring you exactly to the runway. They can be offset, either by a certain degree or distance

[rustic charm]

None of the RNAVs in the LDA airports will bring you directly down either

Well maybe Sitka might, idk, haven’t even looked at the chart there

But at Juneau/Petersburg/Wrangell you will have to align the plane with the runway by hand anyway

[hollow oracle]

if im going to land by hand, id prefer to do it the whole way down rather than try to regain control last minute

[rustic charm]

You can still do that with an LDA? I mean, tbh, you wouldn’t hand-fly an RNAV either usually after all

[hollow oracle]

rnav is just non-precision using waypoints right?

like, instead of a localizer directly lining you up, you just follow the waypoints, descent via the descent angle, and then you can take over to land visually

[rustic charm]

Also taking control not long before landing isn’t problematic either, only really helps me usually

[rustic charm]

Well yeah, as far as I know. But I genuinely have no idea about RNAVs, don’t fly them

Also if you get good visibility it’s your very lucky day. Out of all the times I’ve flown into Juneau, only one or 2 were on a clear day

The rest of time it gives me hell. It can be as bad as no visibility down to 500

[hollow oracle]

the minimums for either landing arent great anyway

actually, the rnav landing has significantly lower minimums

[rustic charm]

Also a quick advice: don’t ignore minimums. In some of those airports they can be crazy high, but they are reasonable. Juneau (at least on LDA) has minimums over 3000. Gotta turn the knob quite a bit. But trying to land in bad visibility while ignoring them isn’t a great idea. You most likely won’t land, especially if it’s your first attempt and you’re unfamiliar with the field. And after EEF you won’t have a properly safe missed approach path, as then you’ll be rather seriously surrounded by mountains. Goarounds are still possible, but they’re not that nice from my experience

[hollow oracle]

im completely lost on the LDA approach goaround too, it says to do a right turn to 310deg, and then following VORs which arent marked on the map portion on the plate

[rustic charm]

Both the NDB and the VOR are marked there

[hollow oracle]

im so lost

thats the missed approach, right?

[rustic charm]

Yep

[hollow oracle]

got it, the coghlan island VOR kind of blended in with the mountains

[rustic charm]

Coghland Island is an NDB, worse than a VOR lol

[hollow oracle]

you loop around, intercept the outbound 251 on CGL, until you intercept the 27 on SSR, and then you can hold at either the SSR or EEF VOR/NDB

[rustic charm]

In case what, when you set up the route in the FMC, it should automatically put in the missed approach, and LNAV/VNAV will take you all through it

[hollow oracle]

yeah, i have no idea how to track radials on a VOR manually whatsoever

i very roughly understand how they work, but i dont know how to set up to follow them, especially in a boeing

[rustic charm]

Just tune the VOR, choose the course and that’s it

[hollow oracle]

does it do it automatically in LNAV?

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[hollow oracle]

do you have to do anything to get it to follow that rather than the NAV path? im kind of confused as to how you get it to switch between the two

or is that at a point where there literally is no nav path for it to follow, or inserting a break/vectors in the plan or something

[rustic charm]

For the plane to follow the missed approach just push toga

[hollow oracle]

im just waiting for the inevitable outcome where i crash on the approach into juneau and i have to deal with the crushing ego death

flight sims are currently the only thing i have any confidence with right now

[rustic charm]

I’d suggest to try something other than Juneau first

Depends on which run you do, there are better options

[hollow oracle]

ive done a few non-precision approaches in the MD-11 and max 8, i have some experience, i just have to do it and learn

[rustic charm]

Cordova and Yakutat are both just ILS

Wrangell is kinda like Juneau but gives you more room for error

Sitka is quite easy

Ketchikan is just an ILS

[hollow oracle]

cordova is ILS too

how is it that literally every airport except the one i want to do first is ILS

just the terrain alone in juneau is insane for an airport at all

[rustic charm]

That’s the exact reason

No safe ILS path

Which of the milk runs do you want to do?

[hollow oracle]

really any, just sounds like a fun flight, plus gets you the acchievement in volanta

every single one stops in juneau though, so you cant avoid it

[rustic charm]

Tbh I don’t really know how to get that achievement, still don’t have it myself

Probably because I do them in parts

[hollow oracle]

i was going to say, i have no idea how the acchivement works either, if you have to do it in 1 flight with multiple landings, or broken up

ive considered doing gibraltar too, considering BAW does A320s on that route, and doing non-precision approaches in an A320 is extremely easy for me

[rustic charm]

I honestly can’t even tell. The most I’ve done in one sitting is Anchorage - Juneau and Ketchikan - Juneau so I never truly completed a full one

Plus even them I split those up so every leg is a separate flight

[topaz geyser]

I'm proudly and confirmably consider myself a 722 expert, so feel free to ask if you got any questions.

I have a thing to say about ILS... firstly, if you go ILS, expect to be absolutely TERRIFIED. I have no idea, maybe it's accurate? Or maybe I've done something wrong? I never exclude that option, I make mistakes quite a lot. But it did not do an ILS approach as we are used to. It would just drop the nose down crazily, and then level off. And then repeat. Genuinely, scary.
That sounds a bit worse than in my experience, but yes, autopilot guidance on ILS in 727 is quite crude. Remember that it doesn't have autothrottle, so you'll have to adjust the thrust. It also likes to overcorrect and oscillate as a result. I generally prefer to fly ILS with the flight director. On the 72, FD is a completely separate system from AP, not linked in any way, and is more precise.

First 2 times, approaching it at a 90-degree angle, as you would quite often do to be fair.
Never do that. It'll try to intercept it immediately.

Only standard 30 degree intercept, or less.

[topaz geyser]

I don't believe there were 72s authorized for terminal RNAV at all.

[hollow oracle]

737-700

i dont own the 727, and i honestly dont really plan on it either

[topaz geyser]

Oh, I misread, sorry.

[trim harbor]

727 with the CIVA is just pure love

im too retarded for VOR to VOR but CIVA slaps

[topaz geyser]

Does not compute... In my experience, VOR to VOR is like the easiest thing ever.

But yes, CIVA is indeed fun.

[topaz geyser]

LDA is, essentially, an offset ILS.

[trim harbor]

its the issue with not alot of VORs or DMEs existing

well in the EU atleast

and i have no clue how to fly approaches w VOR to VOR

[topaz geyser]

https://www.pilotedge.net/pages/i-ratings I recommend doing those.

Even if you don't have subscription, it has a good explanation of everything about conventional approaches.

So you can just go over it offline.

[trim harbor]

PE looks great, ive only heard good

ive been wanting to try it since vatsim is so terrible now

[topaz geyser]

PE is good, but very limited, both in terms of coverage and ops they support.

[trim harbor]

its W coast US only isnt it

[topaz geyser]

Also, it's much stricter than even real life, every flight is like a checkride.

I don't like that.

Anyway, got myself a Birthday present.

[trim harbor]

chally

w

[topaz geyser]

Yep.

[rustic charm]

Is it genuinely a standard? Cause from all of my experience in milk run airports I’m quite used to 90 degrees

I mean… at Cordova you have to intercept it technically at a near 180 angle. You approach from an almost directly opposite direction and then have to do either a full hold as charted or a teardrop shape to turn around and intercept the ILS

At Ketchikan you have to fly a DME arc for a bit iirc and then intercept at 90

Petersburg is also a DME arc and 90-degree intercept, same for sitka if you don’t do a quick approach via CLUCK

[lethal jasper]

Generally 30 is the most agreed irl

[dusty sky]

Is there an F-104 on the marketplace (if there's an mscenery one just say no)

[abstract mural]

If you would need to choose between the Rotate md11, ff777 or ffA350, wich would you choose?
Kinda pulled towards the MD, cause that's different from being and Airbus, but then there's the A350 which is a real modern Airliner with modern systems etc. and it's made together with toliss, so it can't be that bad. And the 777 is iconic on its own +v2

[dusky leaf]

Msfs folks. Is gyroscope drift simulated? I dont see a command for setting

[shadow burrow]

777 by far

A350 is just the XP10 version with toliss systems stapled onto it

MD11 is cool but the 777 is excellent

[echo gorge]

Yeah, not entirely sure if it's a default thing or only decent aircraft have it

I expect it's default as there's a default keybind to correct the compass (k iirc)

[dusky leaf]

Back garden leaf clearing 😆

[shadow burrow]

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/320153-airfoillabs-737-max-in-development/

Complete out of the blue

How the fuck have they kept this hidden

[dusky leaf]

The stuff they make IS decent, but if you need support, or it needs an update, forget it

[shadow burrow]

Eh

The majority of the stuff I’ve used from them is mostly bug free and works well

But they don’t update

It’s sure as shit gonna be better than the WW Max

[dusky leaf]

Aye good stuff as I said

[shadow burrow]

AFL King Air is a beauty

I should fly that thing again

Love it

But a 737max is a bit of a step away from there regular stuff

[reef isle]

Depends on the Add-on I think

[dusky leaf]

Found it. Its the D key 😅

[hollow oracle]

i havent regretted buying GSX, i actually wish i bought it earlier, but i really hate how long it takes to update

it takes easily like 30 mins to do just a simple update

[hollow oracle]

make sure your not nacking resources, or distracted pierracres

fatraiged pressure

[mild zenith]

If you first installed it there was a prompt telling you if you want to download additional files that will make future update downloads faster.

[hollow oracle]

yes, and i did

[mild zenith]

Ok

What's your internet speed

[hollow oracle]

good enough to download an update

drive speeds are good too

its the actual installer software thats extremely slow

[mild zenith]

Ok I got slower speeds than you and never had to wait more than 10 mins for an update to install 🤔

You could try asking about it in the GSX discord

[trim harbor]

bruh

i did not

expect that

not from afl atleast

[tardy hedge]

nice beautiful afternoon take off from JFK

time to fly to orlando

omg

[tardy hedge]

oh well that flight didnt last long

i decided it was a good idea to "instant refuel" in the sky

both of my engines turned off

[hollow oracle]

Are sharklets out already?

Or is that a neo

[hollow oracle]

im really curious if anyone else is having issues with the cabin altitude in the fenix, because every time i tab out of the game, it skyrockets up to like 1500+fpm, if i do it enough itll exceed 10k ft and basically put the plane into emergency

the performance is okay i guess, and no simrate is really a dealbreaker for any flight over 2 hours, but the cabin vertical speed is like an actual game-breaking bug that makes it not possible to complete an A-B flight

my performance has been a LOT smoother since i learned that i was like 10 versions out of date, and with my new gaming PC (hopefully) on the way, my CPU should be able to handle the external software, but i have a feeling that cabin altitude will still be an issue

[shadow burrow]

Idk if msfs uses Lua… but this seems exactly the same as an old bug with the jar A332 where the lua code would just fuck itself into a loop and kill performance for a few seconds while it figures out cabin alt

This was like XP10 days tho haha

Right when it first came out

[hollow oracle]

its an issue with how the sim interacts with fenix's external software, the sim loses focus when you tab out and goes into a state where its not calculating everything very fast, and then the external software tries to interperet that slow data feed still thinking its running normally, which then sends back that data to the aircraft to show on the displays

[shadow burrow]

Yeah that’s kinda how the jar bug worked. It wouldn’t interpret the data the sim was giving it correctly causing the lua to shit itself

[hollow oracle]

as much as ive warmed up to the fenix, i still absolutely DESPISE how they decided to use an external software

i see no benefits from it

obviously i am wrong, there is some benefit im sure, but from just my firsthand experience, i see none

[hollow oracle]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12gb-2tb-ssd-white/6575113.p?skuId=6575113

i dont think i actually ever asked here, how does that look for running MSFS?

im hoping i can atleast get like 30FPS with the fenix, enough to very comfortably fly it without any issues

benchmark videos show that you can run MSFS at a solid 60FPS with that setup

[lethal jasper]

Havent had any issues with fenix, but i dont use simrate so...

[hollow oracle]

fenix is only limited to 2x simrate, which is really not much of an issue, i think it needs 17FPS to function properly

[lethal jasper]

The only jumpy stuff was bc 8k livery and real turb inside msfs disagreeing.

[hollow oracle]

san diego is the worst airport i have ever tried to take off from, ive had to reject takeoff TWICE now, one in the 787 and one in the a320

and now the A320 is showing a fuel pump mode select fault (part of why i decided to abort takeoff), i think because i tried using the default MSFS weights panel to add more fuel for takeoff (taxi took so long that i was under my minimum takeoff fuel) default weight & balance panel distributes fuel evenly between center and wing tanks, which the a320 does NOT like, you have to empty the center tank and manually put your fuel in the wing tanks

great, now the auto brake keeps triggering when i try to set it up for the second takeoff attempt, and now im under my minimum takeoff fuel again because it took so long to taxi back around, so i have to add more fuel

[hollow oracle]

i really want to enjoy the fenix, and i really want to agree that its the best aircraft for the sim, but just cant when every time i fly it, it falls out of the sky or the cabin goes above 10kft

sorry for the ghetto recording, but OBS will crash my GPU, or just overload my PC even worse

there we go, now it finally happened

my cabin is at 13000ft now and still rapidly climbing

the best thing to talk me out of buying the A321/A319 is just flying the fenix

[lethal jasper]

Idk why it only seems to have issues with you.

[hollow oracle]

I don’t know either, and I am 100% genuine when I say that I want to love the fenix, I literally have the airbus sidestick and full throttle set up, but it’s just not working at all

It’s like a 3/4 chance that the fenix has a catastrophic unrecoverable failure that kills the entire flight, which is unacceptable, I paid more for the TFDi MD-11 and it’s literally in alpha, and it performs better

I’m just hoping that my new PC will fix all this, and I can actually fly the fenix, and just completely uninstall the latinvfr/horizon sim stuff

[lethal jasper]

My fenix falls 1,000 ft when i used the realistic turbulance setting in msfs, am now on low, no trouble.

[hollow oracle]

I flew with the realistic turbulence setting for a while with the fenix before realizing that’s not recommended, and I never experienced any issues whatsoever

I fly it with low turbulence now

[dusty sky]

Fenix A320 omg

[crisp adder]

I´m a bit late to the party, but after coming back home I want to give the FBW A380 a try. Tried setting up a flight from EDDF to KJFK. I vaguely remember the FBW EFB has a take-off performance calculator, but for some reason it doesn´t show up in the A380? User error or does the EFB just simply not have one? 🤔

[dusty sky]

Me when all the good addons are way too expensive for me to buy

[trim harbor]

the a380 doesnt have one

you're gonna have to use simbrief

[crisp adder]

Ah, I see, thanks. Well, that's a bummer, I find the EFB-integrated calculators more convenient to use.

[lethal jasper]

True, but some EFBs need work as they miscalculate the performance to be a "stall climb t/o"

[lethal jasper]

I trust Simbrief's more than built-in EFBs

[tardy hedge]

Oh my god

I hate NAVIGRAPH SO MUCH

I JUST WANNA USE THE UPLINK IN THE FENIX A320

This whole airac thing is bullshit

Why does every plane support the flight plan uplink on every airac UNLESS the fenix a320

[dusty sky]

Real

[hollow oracle]

just fenix things™️

[dusty sky]

also me who doesn't have the money to buy an addon plane

[hollow oracle]

oh, shartlets are out

[topaz geyser]

Standard intercept of localizer or VOR radial is 30 degrees. 90 is not forbidden, but my point was specifically about the 727 autopilot.

It freaks out if you try to intercept at steep angles.

[topaz geyser]

A350 is pretty poor (as anything Airbus from FF). I think it at least isn't outright broken nowadays, but there's nothing good about it.
FF777v2... Well, I saw people complaining about it, but I also saw people calling it the best thing ever, so idk.
MD-11 IMO is a safe buy, it isn't like the best thing in the world, but what it does, it does perfectly.

[topaz geyser]

Well, in my community someone pointed out that they also never released the DC-3 they promised ages ago, BUT. My initial reaction was, "it's not April 1st."

Knowing AFL, they got it commissioned for commercial and decided to make a consumer version as a side gig.

[hollow oracle]

i really dont know why people give the FBW A32NX so much garbage

performs great, flies great, i just wish they would work on the both the external and cockpit model a bit more

does FPA in the A320 let you follow a degree descent path rather than a fpm descent path?

im curious if that's what your supposed to do with localizer approaches, using FPA and setting the approach angle in degrees rather than eyeballing the FPM value from the chart

[rustic charm]

I don’t think you can set the path in degrees, in any plane pretty much. I think you need to go fpm, and there should I think be a table on the chart telling you which descent you need for your speed

[hollow oracle]

FPM worked, the chart said it was a 3.5deg glideslope, and i set it to 3.5, and i took it down past minimums actually because i was so comfortable with how it was doing

i did touch down quite late, but well enough to fully stop and turn off, so it wasnt that big of a deal

[rustic charm]

Today's flight is, greatly unfortunately, one of those rare ones that do not end well. It was almost all good, but everything went wrong in just several seconds

And I had under 20 miles to go. Was turning into final

[rustic charm]

Looks nice

[hollow oracle]

las vegas is super fun to fly in/out of, the flytampa scenery is great

[rustic charm]

Oh yeah, I've been looking at it for a while ngl

I've got FlyTampa Boston and it's definitely the best airport I have

[hollow oracle]

performance definitely takes a hit, but not bad at all, my potato can run it

[rustic charm]

Well, tbh I have bought Sochi and haven't flown to it yet, so idk, but that probably isn't as good

[rustic charm]

For me Boston doesn't even affect performance really

Compared to ini JFK it's nothing

[hollow oracle]

thats because JFK/EWR/LGA are right in downtown new york, theyre always going to be extremely laggy to fly in/out of regardless of scenery

[rustic charm]

Nah, default JFK wasn't really

Plus for Boston, not only do I have the ultra detailed airport, but also the scenery pack for the city

And for NY, I don't have one

And iniJFK takes like 10 minutes to just load in. When I spawn in, the terminals don't even show up usually. They then just appear over time while everything loads

[full plank]

we do a little simulated flying

[hollow oracle]

the penix

[tardy hedge]

I just wanted to differ it from the fenix one

It seems like FBW has won itself over for me cuz when i need to pay a additional monthly price off 10 fucking euros just to use then f-pln uplink then no thank you

maybe ill get the A321

but that depends

[hollow oracle]

im just going to wait for my new PC to get the A321

[tardy hedge]

TCAS just sppooked the hell out of me

thought i was about to collide

[tardy hedge]

wtf

it tells me my min efob is too low

i think 0.9 is more than plenty for this

[hollow oracle]

https://flightsim.to/file/65064/fps-4-msfs-simple-fps-tweak-tool

i saw that tool, and i was like "theres no way its that easy", and it is

easily boosted my FPS upwards of 10FPS, just have to remember to do it every month

[hollow oracle]

huh, since when did the PMDG 737s have FO speed callouts?

that has to be the update from the other day

[abstract mural]

Is the A350 poor even though they contributed with Toliss?
That kinda un-poored it for me

In the end I decided for the Md11 as everyone told me not the A350 and the choice of the 777 and MD was both based on me Cargo flying, buuuuut since the V2 doesn't have the cargo plane yet, it got to be the Md11. Which is, let's say interesting. System wise kinda similar to an Airbus, more than I thought, but with yokes. Kinda cool. It's fun!

[topaz geyser]

You can only fix so much. I don't know the current state of the A350 in details and I plan to study it, but if the choice is between FFA350 and Rotate MD-11, MD-11 wins by far.

[abstract mural]

In the end it's probably a lot like my DCS planes, you don't decide which one to get and which one not to get, you just decided about the order in which you get them

[topaz geyser]

M, not necessarily.

[lethal jasper]

Been there forever

[hollow oracle]

is it an option that you can select?

would explain if thats so, being that some liveries wouldnt have it selected by default

[lethal jasper]

Its in the FMC pmdg setup

[hollow oracle]

got it, good to know

[lethal jasper]

Have to turn headset audio off in msfs settings to hear them

[topaz geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561569844760150049/1304265029125935187/CL650_-_2024-11-07_22.37.27.png?ex=672ec2f7&is=672d7177&hm=3f48f62c8a18623df9f56c7a58d7ed3119fd6a13e4af0be56b0e4261baeef8b9&

[hollow oracle]

the most handy thing i have learned, is that the slower you land, the less energy you slam into the ground with essentially, and it took me 60 flights to figure this out

the trick is balancing a speed that wont piss off ATC, and slow enough to get a comfortable landing

landing is really just a controlled stall

[hollow oracle]

my first JAL flight surprisingly

[lethal jasper]

The trick is to touchdown around vref where applicable.

[topaz geyser]

The biggest lie in history of flight simulation.

[lethal jasper]

Lol

[dusty sky]

Lmao

[lethal jasper]

FSS Embraer A/P... mind boggling on how to use it 😅

[rustic charm]

The RJ is out

https://www.justflight.com/product/rj-professional-msfs

For those who have neither RJ nor BAe, there is a bundle containing the 2 too. They cost £52.49 each standalone, the bundle is £94.45, so you’d be saving 10 quid

[shadow burrow]

niceeee

I love vatsim

[rustic charm]

Average vatsim experience?

[lethal jasper]

Average 122.8 / 121.5

[hollow oracle]

i literally just realized

SSW is split-scimitar winglets,

BW are blended winglets

[dusty sky]

may I ask how I get onto vatsim?

can someone please help me file a flightplan for vatsim, I'm a bit confused

[mild zenith]

congrats 😂

[dusty sky]

so what do I do if there's no ground controller

oh lord this is scary

I'm so scared that my idiot self will say something stupid

is vatsim just for extroverts or something

this is the most scared I've ever been

not to be offensive

[rustic charm]

You’re not being offensive lol

That’s entirely the reason why I still haven’t tried it

Plus often nobody’s controlling Alaska anyway

[dusty sky]

I'm in denver right now

scariest part is that I don't know when I can talk because sometimes I just don't hear anything

like right now it says someone is talking but I don't hear a thing

[rustic charm]

Honestly, starting in a bit of a quieter area would probably be better

[dusty sky]

good point

now question is where

[rustic charm]

Looking at Volanta right now, in US you have San Diego which is moderate traffic, and Nashville which right now looks rather empty

[dusty sky]

the sound is backish

constant start stops

gonna go to nashville

mostly I'm just scared that I'm going to sound strange

[rustic charm]

Every person probably does when just starting

[dusty sky]

the controller at nashville is actually chill omg

and there also a real pilot at the airport as well

[hollow oracle]

get beyondATC!!!!

it has voice recognition, practice with BATC for a handful of flights, and you should be set to go with VATSIM

the voice recognition is very good too, im a very quiet person and it picks up my voice pretty great

[rustic charm]

Today’s flight done. Same route as yesterday’s failed one

[dusty sky]

You think I've got the money?

Gonna try again tomorrow, just gotta pray that there are controllers at the airports I want to fly at

[rustic charm]

I bought BATC and turns out it can’t be used in Russia. But I at least have it, so could be worse

[dusty sky]

Sad

[topaz geyser]

Transmit on advisory your intentions.

For other traffic to know.

Well, if there's higher level controller, contact them.

VATSIM uses top down coverage, CTR -> APP/DEP -> TWR -> GND -> (RMP).

So Center controls everything unless there's a separate staffed position, Tower does runways and Ground.

[topaz geyser]

Well, you have to be able to talk to people, but I mean...

You're doing it here, right now.

On this very server.

[topaz geyser]

VPN could help.

[full plank]

if you find an airport that has controllers on, connect as an observer & just listen to what people ask for & what they get given

its an easy way to get an idea on what to do to get going

& you won't be in anyones way, so can just chill at the gate

[hollow oracle]

its a real thing

i do plan on making the kamala/walz campaign 737BBJ as well, the idea being a "2024 campaign pack"

[hollow oracle]

im not sure if ill get the kamala/walz livery done this weekend because i have a few things planned, but it is coming next

[shadow burrow]

Campaign aircraft make me laugh

It’s so fucking American

You come over here in election season and you have a big bus usually with a lie plastered across the side of it

You guys have 737’s

[lethal jasper]

BoeingBusJet 🤣

[hollow oracle]

not only that, all politicans go on and on about how theyre "fighting for the working class" while flying private 737s everywhere

[shadow burrow]

This one is rare actually it has 5 lies on the side!

And this one has some beans!

[hollow oracle]

i really fucked up the landing so i only really did this flight for the screenshots

thats fucking wild, from the MSFS discord

[young hazel]

Where's RFK's jet?

[hollow oracle]

he actually doesnt have one aparently, just red and blue

https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-rfk-barefoot-aisle-floor-first-class-flight/

there is that though, and politics aside, what the fuck

[shadow burrow]

as someone who works on planes this is really really not recomended

[hollow oracle]

thats him walking back from the bathroom too lmao

[shadow burrow]

yeah

barefoot in an aircraft toilet is really bad

don't do this

people talk about MERSA

this is a really good way to contract it

[shadow burrow]

Early morning BEL hop

[dusty sky]

Well I'm not using my actual voice am I?

[crisp adder]

That´s as far as I got. Under 10 FPS at FRA is just no fun. The plane looks good, I just FBW will improve its performance, soon.

So instead I took the new A320 with winglets for a "late afternoon" (local time) flight.

[hollow oracle]

The A380s performance is very underwhelming, I had so many plans for flights in it, but never got further than takeoff because of how awful it performs