Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[topaz geyser]

You're saying words, not sure you know what they mean.

[rustic charm]

Enjoy!

[hollow oracle]

i would get the TFDi MD-11, but i have the skysim one and ive never actually quite figured it out yet

[topaz geyser]

MD-11, from a surface glimpse, isn't that different from something like a 73CL or MD-80.

At least in terms of logic.

It's my next thing to learn since the PAX variant was just released by Rotate.

[hollow oracle]

no, i might get the MD-11, considering its the more expensive option and my current positive financial situation, plus the A321/A319 are different but very, very similar to the base A320

if im going to get a new plane, id prefer getting one to learn

[rustic charm]

The MD-11 seems rather nice in terms of systems

[hollow oracle]

plus, i dont entirely trust the simulation of skysim

[rustic charm]

I am frankly not the biggest fan of how it looks from the outside, but that’s not overly important

[hollow oracle]

i have that enhancement pack, but i think id rather fly the TFDi one, because then im 100% confident the systems are accurate enough that i wont encounter a bug that throws me off learning it

[topaz geyser]

Why? No account for taste, but I absolutely love the look of the MD-11.

[rustic charm]

There are only 2 reasons why I haven’t bought the thing yet - I usually do short haul, like, the longest of my flights are US transcontinentals, and I’ve only done 2 (although one was in a 738…). The other reason is that I kinda dislike the way TFDi handled the ER variant. Locking an airframe behind a preorder, and only for a limited amount of those preorders, is a no way in my book.

[topaz geyser]

Oh, by the "looks from the outside" you mean the TFDi modeling, not the plane itself?

[rustic charm]

Idk something just irks me about the texturing on the exterior. The cockpit looks brilliant. The exterior, there’s just something that looks bit eh to me. I can’t really pinpoint what. Could be the weathering

[topaz geyser]

Fair enough.

The only TFDi product I ever used was SmartCARS 3 and I have nothing but bad impressions and promblems about it.

Time to install software that literally lists Pentium 4 as minimum system specs... Fligth sim can get weird.

(PFPX for the reference... Does anyone even remember that?)

[hollow oracle]

i ended up buying the MD-11

plus the passenger variant

i dont plan on flying the passenger version all too much, but its nice to have, i like the american airlines bare aluminum on it

[topaz geyser]

Huh, funny, it was the last thing I bought before today...

https://i.imgur.com/lIomGZf.png

[topaz geyser]

I gotta say, when flying IRL, one of my favorite things is to watch trains go about their business.

[naive nova]

I imagine tracks are great for VFR; you can just follow the track and not worry about navigating.

[topaz geyser]

You know the joke? "Yes, I fly IFR - I Follow Roads/Rivers/Rails."

[naive nova]

ahahaha.

[shadow burrow]

Because Subsidy = Communism

Communism is when the government pays for stuff

[topaz geyser]

You really want to reengage that offtopic discussion in which no one will convince anyone but everyone will end up hating on each other?

[shadow burrow]

Nah I just work up for work and saw funny comment

Btw has anyone seen the new Toliss ISCS? Directly implemented into the tablet

It seems to me like new cockpit textures again as well?

[topaz geyser]

I heard about it. Does it have a pop-up?

[topaz geyser]

Actually, knowing ToLiss, it should.

[shadow burrow]

Yeh the tablet has been in for a while but the ISCS was always a popup

With Ground Services accessible by the radios

Can’t tell if it’s just shitty quality Facebook screenshots or new textures

[topaz geyser]

No, my question is, can one pop-up the ISCS from the tablet.

I think before it was only AVITAB, and it wasn't pop-up.

But I haven't flown ToLiSS in... Hot damn, years at this point.

[shadow burrow]

Nah it was perf and avitab

No popup

[topaz geyser]

Ah, they moved performance to the tablet from ISCS?

That's good.

[shadow burrow]

I’m just guessing the ISCS is gonna be another page where the menu is still accessible via the xp menu system

[shadow burrow]

Kinda?

[topaz geyser]

Wdym?

[shadow burrow]

But most people use “perf request” in the FMC

More accurate

[topaz geyser]

For known fields, that is... ISCS calculator a few times calculated me numbers for runways not existing in databases.

That's something that super annoys me about... what's its face... the VPT.

It only calculates for a specific set of most used airports.

And doesn't allow to just feed in random numbers and get them calculated.

[shadow burrow]

Again this is why perf req is better

Doesn’t do that

Takes what it knows, winds, runway length and perf then calculates based on that

[topaz geyser]

Okay. Sorry, I'm not familiar with it enough.

Looking forward to figuring it our tho.

[topaz geyser]

So I was figuring out what to do with stutters in XP12. I have sort of a weird contraption called i9-12950HX for the CPU. It's a laptop high-end CPU with 8 hyperthreading high-performance cores and 8 efficiency cores (totaling in 8*2+8=24 logical cores).
I have most things almost maxed out, so in an environment with a mix of a lot of clouds and a lot of buildings, even at around 40 FPS in general, on any significant change of view or even a sharp turn, I had CPU spikes to 100% and as a result FPS drops to like 20 if not 10. Because it mostly was happening when maneuvering, it caused a few significant issues in terminal environment, and (I suspect) caused at least one crash (mix of flight model going bonkers and my inability to correct due to stutters).

First thing I did is tried turning both on and off threaded optimization. On Auto or Global it was reverting to Off, so I forced it to On. And surprisingly, it already made it better. Stutters weren't gone, but they got much shorter.

Then I set (first) num_workers to 8, half the number of performance cores. And oh miracle, stutters were completely gone, because it put whatever the CPU was doing on specific cores and freed up the remaining ones to do the rest of the calculations. After experimenting, I stopped at -num_workers=10 as a good compromise between FPS and stutters reduction (at =16 all the performance cores were still getting loaded so still bad), and the experience is much smoother.

[alpine coral]

Same

I see them here and there

Only commuters though, I bet freight would look cooler

[reef isle]

#535249224254619648 message

Has anyone else here had this problem with the ini A320neo roll deadzone?

I brought it up on their server but ended up talking to a brick wall that only acknowledged pitch (which I said more than once was fine)

There doesn't seem to be any option to reduce it (unlike the Fenix), and I seem the only person in the world to ever complain or even notice that 😭

[hollow oracle]

im in love with the MD-11

coming from an airbus, it is SO similar

the jump from the A320 to the MD-11 was significantly easier than the jump from the A320 to the A300

toolbar pushback was not happy with the MD-11 though, i might need to update some things with it, not sure

[hollow oracle]

oops

[echo gorge]

Suboptimal

[woeful elbow]

wtf

[woeful elbow]

Im trying to think of a good flight to do

[rustic charm]

Alaska 65

Seattle - Anchorage

Via Ketchikan, Wrangell, Petersburg and Juneau

Wrangell, Petersburg and Juneau are rather challenging approaches in bad weather

[woeful elbow]

my attention spam will not last that long

[rustic charm]

Could just do part of it

Ketchikan - Wrangell - Petersburg - Juneau is the most interesting part

[woeful elbow]

hmm

[rustic charm]

If you don’t actually wait for all the ground operations and start setting up for the departure right after the arrival, the 3 flights can take as little as 2:30

Even 2:00 tbh

Let me just load up volanta and see how much time I recorded the last time I did those

[woeful elbow]

I usually have no issues doing flights up to 4h+ but for some reason today Im just not in the mood..

[rustic charm]

So my total block time for those 3 legs was 1:50

[woeful elbow]

I would but I wanna fly a max, and ive got the max on xp11

[rustic charm]

Welp, with a max, yeah, MSFS is a no go for now

[woeful elbow]

Ive got sick of the pmdg 737's sounds

[rustic charm]

Tbh I don’t mind sounds too much. But I am overall not as critical of sounds anywhere

[woeful elbow]

Ive got an idea

brb

hmm, MKJP - KMCO

yeah doing that

[trim harbor]

get ftsim

it's like 3 euros a month

[woeful elbow]

might do so

[trim harbor]

it's worth it

cannot imagine flying without

[woeful elbow]

doing a flight on xp rn to kmco

[trim harbor]

the 737 doesnt sound like a literal hairdryer

and the 777 sounds like an actual 777

[woeful elbow]

uhhh

wth

gulp

[woeful elbow]

why did it auto asign this route!!!

[echo gorge]

Safety last

[woeful elbow]

[woeful elbow]

wasnt my idea to fly in it. brother wants to learn to fly a319 so im teaching him

[woeful elbow]

also he did the simbreif plan on his own so hes learning..

[rustic charm]

Doing another coast to coast

Of course, in a 737

[woeful elbow]

damm

this decent rate is mental

well he did it

[topaz geyser]

How?

Looks like plenty of speed to recover at 3200 tbh.

[hollow oracle]

i shut off the engines too, no hydraulics to control anything

[topaz geyser]

What did autoassign this route?

Also, in the end of the day, you are the captain. If you don't like the enroute or arrival weather, it's your responsibility to say "no."

[topaz geyser]

Eh... I think you guys went to master degree material straight from grade school.

[topaz geyser]

Ah, just screwing around.

Carry on.

[hollow oracle]

thats how i end my flights that i dont have the time to finish, i dont just exit to the menu, i cut all engines, i put it into a dive, and watch

[topaz geyser]

Oh. No, I can't afford that mindset. Each of my flights is training for IRL in one way or another.

If the engines are cut, I still need to at least get it on the ground safely.

Or on water. Whatever is more serviceable.

[hollow oracle]

the good news is that the closest i will ever get to flying an aircraft is those foam gliders you get at the dollar store

[honest ether]

Aerosoft's A330 makes Rivet look competent

[hollow oracle]

i love spending like 3 hours on a flight, risking being late for class, only for the glideslope to not lock on, trying to use FPA and that also doesnt put me in the right spot, localizer not centering me with the runway

i thought that you just armed approach/land on the FCU in the MD-11, but that didnt work

it showed both the glideslope and the localizer on the display, but it just didnt follow either

go-around did not work either, i tried physically pushing the throttles, did not work, i also tried the TOGA button, also did not work

when i touched down, off center and above glideslope, i was getting GPWS alarms and the engines were trying to push me back up

the minimums didnt work either, i set it to baro 747 as is on the approach plate, yet it called out minimums at radio 200

[woeful elbow]

English please?

[topaz geyser]

Creo que usé ingles, ¿no?

What I mean is, initial training is done in clear skies in a GA plane, not in an airliner through a freaking hurricane.

Which you are supposed to know if you hold a Private.

[woeful elbow]

Right but a kid who's just turned 13 ain't gonna do a private at his age..

And yh hurricane situation was just bc he was bored

[rustic charm]

Just completed my first transcontinental flight

San Diego to Boston

In a 738 as an Alaska flight

Thought it would be my longest flight, but turns out not. My first transcontinental (Newark - LA) was 5:10, just a couple minutes longer than today

[alpine coral]

KTPA attempt in Milton

[hollow oracle]

the MD-11 is starting to get on my nerves

GSX pushback is the only pushback tool that works with it, you cant use toolbar pushback

if you dont have GSX, shift+P is your only option to pushback, and thats straight out only

[shadow burrow]

aint much longer than this

or this

[rustic charm]

Yep

Might do one of those at some point

[shadow burrow]

take 10 or so min off because of some MSFS kid

[rustic charm]

Doesn’t surprise me xD

[shadow burrow]

full stop on the runway when I was on a 5 mile

[hollow oracle]

thats the top reason why i dont use vatsim, i am that MSFS kid

[shadow burrow]

didn't move

had to do a go around

[rustic charm]

Yeah

I always try to not even stop on the runway at all, just get everything set up beforehand and start the takeoff roll as soon as lined up

[hollow oracle]

third time's the charm i guess 🥲

[rustic charm]

Of course I have a lot more freedom and choice due to not having any ATC or traffic. But if I’m not ready, can just hold short after all.

[hollow oracle]

first ever landing in the MD-11, -304fpm, not bad at all

no bounce either, took a second for the nose gear to touch down but by that point the rear gear was already braking so i wasnt too worried

some daytime screenies too

[dusky leaf]

Landing rate plugins and simmers obsession with fpm on landing annoys me. Its not how its done. A decent firm landing on the right spot is the way to do it.

Pick a spot and judge your landing by how close to that spot you get

[hollow oracle]

at the very least, its an indication of how hard of a landing it was

very obviously a -200fpm landing is going to be good, a -700fpm one is going to be extremely hard

[rustic charm]

But a smooth landing doesn’t equal a good landing

A good landing is a safe landing

If you landed smooth as butter but then overrun the runway and ended up in a nearby river, that’s not a good landing

[mild zenith]

I just try to land safely within the touchdown zone

Also the plugins that rate the landing with FPM are all saying something different

[rustic charm]

That’s cause they calculate differently

And many aren’t exactly accurate

Volanta for example iirc averages the last few seconds before landing

[rustic charm]

My previous 2 flights, JFK - Boston and San Diego - Boston

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/djkhaled-another-one-anotherone-gif-4905376

today is MD-11 day for me i guess

[trim harbor]

https://fselite.net/content/microsoft-updates-expert-series-atr-42-600-72-600-expansion-for-msfs/

[hollow oracle]

im getting my $80 worth out of the MD-11 today

no plans to finish the AAL flight outside of just some screenshots and checking out the passenger version, but i did do 2 full flights today

[alpine coral]

Anyone recommend this?

https://secure.simmarket.com/aerosoft-flightsim-studio-e-jets-175-msfs.phtml

[echo gorge]

No

It's got potential, but at present it's woefully incomplete

[alpine coral]

Got it, are there any solid embarers for the sim right now?

[hollow oracle]

no

[alpine coral]

Damn 😔

[full plank]

I bought the freighter & pax versions & aside from 1 test flight I haven't flown it

mainly due lack of time

[hollow oracle]

my favorite thing ever is flying for an hour and then realizing you fucked up the landing last second

i could have gone around, but im not acquainted enough the systems in boeing aircraft to do it safely

same weird situation as the MD-11 actually, it was showing the localizer and glideslope on the display, wouldnt lock onto either, freq was wrong and when i tried to enter in the correct one, it kept thinking it was a VOR

both happened in toronto, different runways, and i did manage to land in the MD-11 eventually, so i have no clue if the airport data is bad or not, could easily just be that my last flight in a boeing 737 was almost a full month ago (i have flown the 787 since then, but different levels of simulation)

[full plank]

think most of my sim flying has been equally with the A321 & 777

lots of short ish hops in the 321 & my entire sunday spent on a London to Hong Kong flight

the latter of which I endeavour to continue this evening

[woeful elbow]

morning

[untold finch]

honestly regret buying it
it was something like twice the price of the Fenix
it's maybe half as refined and detailed
VR somehow doesn't work properly, only on the MD-11
the attitude their devs seem to have toward their community isn't exactly positive either

[trim harbor]

@shadow burrow

ryanair is stopping ops to leipzig

[shadow burrow]

Doesn’t surprise me

[trim harbor]

its too expensive apparently

[shadow burrow]

Expensive landing fees

[trim harbor]

and i doubt theres much traffic

yea

[shadow burrow]

Yes

No the flights get busy

[trim harbor]

The low-cost airline Ryanair is drastically reducing its offering in Germany. The company says it will stop all operations in Dortmund, Dresden and Leipzig and reduce the number of flights in Hamburg by 60%, resulting in a loss of 1.8 million seats. Ryanair's CEO Eddie Wilson speaks of a “failure by the government to reduce extremely high access costs”. That's why Germans pay the highest airfares in Europe.

[woeful elbow]

Trying to teach my younger brother to fly a a319 is chaos

[trim harbor]

hes not wrong

germany has abysmal fees

in terms of taxes of fuel and such

[shadow burrow]

Yeah

[trim harbor]

im not too suprised that airlines are starting to leave

[shadow burrow]

We deleted Frankfurt Main in 2020, Berlin is getting reduced the only ones that aren’t are Hahn, Memmingen and Karlsruhe

[trim harbor]

wait hahn isnt serviced anymore?

damn

[shadow burrow]

Köln will probably b next on the chopping block

[trim harbor]

oh wait

i misread

[shadow burrow]

Nah it’s one of the ones that’s maintaining the amount of flights lmao

[trim harbor]

u meant main

when the hell did ryanair fly to main

[shadow burrow]

For like 15 years

[trim harbor]

bruh i missed something big clearly

[shadow burrow]

2005 - 2020

Was never a base but we flew there from a lot of places

[trim harbor]

im suprised berlin is being reduced

because thats a REALLY big hub isnt it?

[shadow burrow]

We need the Dutch government to fix up soon because we want lelystad flights for Amsterdam

[trim harbor]

EJ and RYR own that place

[shadow burrow]

I don’t think it’s even in the top 10 bases tbh

[trim harbor]

terrible airport

failure even

capital city and somehow 0 intl flights

[trim harbor]

wow im actually suprised

thats crazy

pity that no direct flights to london anymore

[shadow burrow]

Casually 151 destinations from Stansted

[trim harbor]

they were really expensive though

250 pounds one way LEJ-STN was mad

[shadow burrow]

DHL own that place

They dictate the fees

Weeze is even getting smaller

There were talks to operate a new base at Geilenkirchen Air Base a few years ago to replace Köln, Weeze and Dortmund

Would also probably delete Maastricht

[trim harbor]

which is good

dhl does good stuff for the region

[rustic charm]

Seen the LVFR 330 pop up and am wondering which one is worse, that or Aerosoft 330

[trim harbor]

aerosoft

u can atleast land the lvfr a330

[rustic charm]

Is the aerosoft one that unflyable

[trim harbor]

ohh yess

[rustic charm]

I haven’t looked at it almost at all, ain’t the plane I’m interested in. But sounds like it’s just awful

[trim harbor]

it bumps like up

and then down

and sometimes it likes to go 350 kts

upon touchown

[rustic charm]

Unflyable indeed

Or well, unlandable at the very least

But I expect unflyable too

I’ve seen that it can’t even give you an ETA

[trim harbor]

https://youtu.be/8SChUa145WY?t=1954

watch from timestamp for like

10-20 secs?

[rustic charm]

That’s so sad…

It just went up

Because it wanted to

The plane be like “I say we go around now”

[trim harbor]

https://youtu.be/kb_I8Ql8i5M?t=5271

here it just jumps up again

lol

[rustic charm]

Yeah…

No idea how the LVFR one is but I’m also rather sure that it got released mainly just to get some sales before MSFS 2024, which has its own 330, drops

[trim harbor]

toliss a330-900 released as well

system superb

trash modelling

$90

lo

[rustic charm]

Just watched it… “We are accelerating… in maximum reverse…”

[shadow burrow]

hmmmmm

[hollow oracle]

how the fuck did this even get released

just from that video alone, a regular flight has bugs in every single stage

and not even like "you wouldnt realize this is a bug unless if you know the aircraft extremely well irl". like glaring actual bugs even casual players would spot

[hollow oracle]

okay, this really takes the cake

you cant even input holds????

you MUST land otherwise, good luck holding for a go around

[rustic charm]

Well, sometimes you don’t need to hold for a goaround, which would be lucky in this case

But the lack of holds is…

Disturbing to say the least

[trim harbor]

u cannot do rnav

[dusky leaf]

It should be implemented, of course, but you could always shock horror just fly it manually. Not remotely realistic, but fun

[rustic charm]

Flying something big manually is fun

[topaz geyser]

The endless landsea of the Midwest...

[topaz geyser]

Visual into KSUS.

[hollow oracle]

one other huge thing i really enjoy with the MD-11, i rarely use the EFB with it

i use it for takeoff/landing calculations and setup, outside of that, i actually hide it for 99% of the flight

it does have navigraph integration, but for some reason it keeps logging me out (like a few other aircraft too), so i dont bother re-logging in every flight

[alpine coral]

TNCM in 2024

[hollow oracle]

i did my first ever flight between the same two airports, honolulu and LAX

i did it in the 77W not too long ago, and now i did it in the MD-11F

technically my second longest flight too, i didnt use much sim rate at the beginning, so i got a solid 2 hours in

[hollow oracle]

i like flying freight because it means i can have an exceptionally shitty landing and not have any customer complaints

[shadow burrow]

F3 dep out of an intersection

weird one

[trim harbor]

a landing is just a landing

even if its a space shuttle landing

[rustic charm]

How

[topaz geyser]

I haven't met a real world pilot who'd be against a smooth landing, conditions permitting. Firm has its place and time.

[topaz geyser]

Not necessarily.

[dusky leaf]

Depends very much on the airframe

[topaz geyser]

The firmness of a landing is much less defined by the vertical speed than by the touchdown g-force.

So touchdown at 700-fpm-and-decreasing might be about the same as at 200-and-increasing.

Anyway, the main criteria of a good landing are the stability and the spot (centerline and distance). Stable approach on final means no parasitic forces nor excessive corrections. Centerline means good directional control. Distance means at least sufficient runway and at most a perfect turnoff.

If you manage to do it smoothly, it's a nice addition, but it never should be the goal.

[topaz geyser]

That's... a T16kM for Xbox.

[topaz geyser]

Correction, T.Flight. I didn't know about this thing admittedly.

Yeah, looks like a different color limited edition.

[full plank]

reminds me I need a new Hotas

[shadow burrow]

After 5h10 Landing in GCLA

[trim harbor]

old livery is peak

[shadow burrow]

it really is

[echo gorge]

You've never met a navy pilot then

[rustic charm]

On an aircraft carrier, a smooth landing would basically equal testing out the plane’s swimming abilities

[hollow oracle]

Ngl, I want to get the A321/A319 eventually, but I’m so glad I went with the MD-11 before it

My most popular screenshot so far

[full plank]

A321 is definitely my most flown aircraft as of late, with the 777 coming in 2nd

I bought the MD11 but haven't flown either much, perhaps that may change

[mild zenith]

😂😂😂

[naive nova]

Get out the aircraft is cool, but really disappointed I cant steal another plane from the ramp

[shadow burrow]

as someone who flys in planes daily this isn't true lmao

90% of the time its get down and get out

[topaz geyser]

Are you flying for a low coster, perchance?

Also, it's not mutually exclusive. Also, if you don't care, it doesn't mean no one in the company cares. My knowledge/experience comes from people who fly daily as well.

[hollow oracle]

He works for ryanair, which makes complete sense

I’m surprised they haven’t snapped a 737 in half with how hard they land

[topaz geyser]

Huh, I see. I'm around the industry for over 15 years now, so...

Let's say, it's hard to feed me subjective things.

[hollow oracle]

Look up any rough landing compilation and 3/4 will be ryanair winglets

https://youtu.be/Qsb-6vQqhvc?si=m1e6mTuIs0qJ0HlC

[hollow oracle]

They operate with this ideology, hard landings, but that means you can stop quicker, get to the ramp quicker, turn around and leave quicker

[topaz geyser]

My favorite thing to say is, there're at least 1000 ways to fly any airframe in existence, and every pilot that flew for a single company all their life thinks that theirs is the only permitted one.

"Flied." I invent word

[hollow oracle]

I mean, quick & stiff landings are literally ryanair policy, not the individual pilot

[topaz geyser]

Anyways... Associated with it is my favorite story I saw happening on a Russian forum, where two RW pilots on the same type got into a fight and called each other "dumb simmers" over differences in the SOPs.

Can't make that up.

When both learned that each one is a line pilot, the argument ended abruptly and awkwardly.

[alpine coral]

That'd be funny
Lol

[hollow oracle]

i thought i was going to have an aerosucre takeoff, i was in taxi and i was really struggling to accelerate, even going like 30kts felt like i was crawling

turns out the sim had somehow gone into sub-1x sim rate

"sorry sir zhe cargo door es closed"
"well cant you just open it"
"nien"

[hollow oracle]

i dont get it, this is a real approach

how does any airliner do this

im still having issues with the plane wanting to loop around waypoints 180deg when encountering a steep turn too

i tried correcting it and almost went into an uncontrolled spin by a too extreme bank angle

this has happened on almost every single flight ive done

i didnt even know initial approaches existed before right now

ill be crushing like 3 flights a day, and then i get a few devastating errors in one flight and all of my confidence in flying is completely gone

[full plank]

Ayy En Ayy

uneventful as most long hauls but decent

[shadow burrow]

Very common misconception

I can assure you for the majority of pilots I’ve spoken to at Ryanair, Lauda, BA, ITA, along with my experiences flying with all these carriers it’s usually just get it down and get out

There is a time and a place for smooth landings

Not when you have just finished a 12h shift and want to get home

[topaz geyser]

The most beautiful livery in existence.

All Nippon current livery is just perfect. I hope they won't change.

[topaz geyser]

That is all I was arguing. Everything else is circumstantial.

[rustic charm]

Depends. Looks rather nice if you consider just the modern liveries. If you take into account liveries from back in the day, it’s barely in the top.

[hollow oracle]

The only retro livery that beats out any modern ones is the US airways livery

The rest are yucky, I puke every time I see them

[rustic charm]

That’s quite an opinion

Especially that half of the modern liveries are plain white planes with just painted engines and tails

And a further quarter of modern liveries is just that plus painted bottom of the fuselage

[full plank]

my first time ever doing a ANA flight. It was either this one or taking a Cathay 777 out of Hong Kong

[reef isle]

bought a new plane ❤️

[rustic charm]

AAL retro beats the majority of modern liveries. AAL Astrojet does too. Alaska’s 70s does. BOAC does. BEA does. United Tulip does. Delta Widget does. And I’m too lazy to remember further

[rustic charm]

That livery is…

Interesting

[reef isle]

still, could be worse

https://www.v1images.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/TAT_VFW-614_D-BABF_19760209_HAJ.jpg

[shadow burrow]

how is it?

[reef isle]

It's... usable sort of

First, I'd like to say, I love the guy that made the plane, because out of all the planes in the world he could have made for Xplane, he decided to make that plane. I'll always appreciate that.

But, engine power seems a little odd? Seems like most of the power is between 95 and 100% (about a 2/3% N2), I was crushing at about 96/97% N2 and climbing at 98/99% N2 (for comparison the F28's climb power is 96%, 732 is 91% N2).

Some things in the cockpit don't light up when they should (most notably the UFC/MCP buttons.

The interaction system is AWFUL. No scrolling with the mouse wheel, just have to hunt for the TINY click spot that turns the knob the direction you want to, and either spam left mouse click, or hold, forget to try and do what while you have head tracking active. I always have to toggle it to stay still

Some features are not modelled, some are understandable, especially as they were only used in the military version, but I don't see why TACAN doesn't work.

Flight model is a bit odd, especially stalling. You can get to 80/90kts, and it will just keep more or less the same deck angle, but will just sink, but in normal operations is OK, although flaps seem to have a tiny effect on trim (opposite of the 732 and 727, no idea if it's realistic), Drag seems really high, both on the ground and in the air it always feels like you're keeping the throttles at a pretty high setting during all phases of flight

Everything looks kind of dated and low Res

But it's a VFW-614 😍 so we can forget those niggly little faults

[trim harbor]

looks like the airbus test livery lol

[shadow burrow]

its peter hager

I think his dad used to fly them thats why he made it

other than the fact its hager I probably wouldn't mind it tbh

[reef isle]

Nice, whatever the reason, I'm happy I can fly that plane in something more modern than FSX 🙂

and yeah, it's overpriced, but considering how tiny the customer pool is, I'm OK with giving him that much money

[hollow oracle]

does anyone else ever get that issue where they accidentally right click on a display to move the camera, which selects a text box, and then you cant unselect it because its not in camera anymore

how do i fix that

[hollow oracle]

the MD-11 is starting to get o nmy nerves

no pushback system has worked, every one is broken, and i cant find a profile for toolbar pushback for the MD-11

plus the bug of it looping around waypoints with tight turns 180deg is a known bug with no fix

for some reason, frankfurt's cargo area doesnt have pushback tugs by default, so im kind of fucked, i have to start and then just taxi out myself

awesome, now im getting no tiller movement, rudder is moving

nothing changed, i set up the aircraft as normal, no settings for "rudder controls tiller" in the EFB

[topaz geyser]

Yeah, I guess "currently used" would be more accurate.

Departure from KMFR.

I can really recommend when the 32 is in ops, it includes an interesting climbing hold.

Well, not interesting, but at least something to spice things up.

[hollow oracle]

what do people even use for pushback, i cant find a single solution that works reliably

outside of just pushing straight out using shift+P

[topaz geyser]

BetterPushback is still the best for XP12.

[hollow oracle]

id rather fucking eat broken glass than spend $30 on GSX

https://tenor.com/view/pou-sad-rain-shower-depressed-gif-670686772125037083

i might buy GSX and just deal with the financial hit later

is there any performance impact with GSX?

[topaz geyser]

Welcome to sim life aviation, hope you like instant ramen.

[green egret]

kinda feel the same, should have chosen the rotate one instead

[topaz geyser]

That is a 737 setup. I know, I know...

The weirdest MCP in existence.

[trim harbor]

Sounds like gsx

Terrible program

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/whip-gif-4480509

[reef isle]

Shift+P and default ATC to turn

Tune ground frequency > Ground Services and then you can tell it go left or right.

[mild zenith]

Awesome program imo

[woeful elbow]

anyone know when the iflymax might release?

[full plank]

nobody knows but iFly

[woeful elbow]

fe

[trim harbor]

if the pushback wouldnt break every single time yes

[mild zenith]

It doesn't for me so 🤷‍♂️

[rustic charm]

For now all I’ve heard about GSX is literally that it’s wonderful in what it adds, but likes to break xD

[full plank]

for those who wanna know the iFly sevenhundred & thirtyseven MAX number 8 is out now in pre-release

[trim harbor]

https://fselite.net/content/pre-release-ifly-737-max8-for-msfs-now-available/

neat

[rustic charm]

Looks nice

Hope anyone who gets it enjoys it

[hollow oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POD9Hq0EqXA

every time i buy something expensive, get ready for another thing that i want to also release

[trim harbor]

lmfao

[hollow oracle]

atleast i have the PMDG one

[trim harbor]

ohno

we ARE not LANDING with autopilot

[hollow oracle]

looks fun

thats an approach where i scream the entire way down

[trim harbor]

i take it back

it fixed itself

and it unfixed itself lmao

[hollow oracle]

i like

kinda wish it would actually load the aircraft during the visual loading processes, but its whatever

(also, is there any good scenery for the freight apron at EDDF )

[mild zenith]

aerosoft eddf

[echo gorge]

It does that with the md-80, not sure of any other aircraft that happens with though

[shadow burrow]

No MED

Disappointed

First time doing this in a MAX cockpit as well today

[mild zenith]

what

[shadow burrow]

Middle Exit Door

The emergency exit between the overwings and the rear galley

[mild zenith]

Oh

Does the pmdg have that option

[shadow burrow]

It’s just on the -8200

The max

Oh is that not the iFly?

I’m blind

[mild zenith]

Nope

[shadow burrow]

Ignore me

Long day

[mild zenith]

I learned a new thing about the max though so 😂

never noticed that door

[rustic charm]

(I mean, tbf, I wouldn’t be able to visually distinguish the 2 )

[shadow burrow]

It’s only an option selected by Ryanair due to the high capacity config on our max’s

-900er also has them

On some planes

[mild zenith]

At least there's no jump seat on that one

[shadow burrow]

There is

I was sat in it today

[shadow burrow]

This is wrong

Row 1 is only 1bc

[mild zenith]

Omg

Pain

[shadow burrow]

No a and no def

Actually this is very wrong

27 a and f doesn’t exist because emergency exit

And 26 F doesn’t exist because there is a jumpseat

This is correct

Holy shit haha they actually modeled it

[hollow oracle]

I think the fenix does too, on loading there’s a GSX option

Wish that was the standard rather than the exception

I need to slow down with setting up my aircraft anyway, so I don’t mind having a cool animation to keep me occupied

[echo gorge]

I do find it very annoying that you can't load bags while loading fuel, but otherwise when it's working I do like the addon

[shadow burrow]

This is semi accurate

US only thing

We can’t do it in the UK either

You can in some other places

Depends on Airline Choice I would presume

[shadow burrow]

I’m looking at some videos of the ifly max and I’m really liking it

There are a couple really peeving problems mainly the ACP is quite wrong in terms of design

Also the really annoying thing is the fucking Night mode lights is the wrong shade of blue

Can you tell I have a touch of the tism?

[hollow oracle]

where is the cargo apron at EDDF?

i thought it was red, but apparently its blue?

both have passenger and freight aircraft parked

GSX said that the gates in the red area were "isolated" and had no ground service for some reason

[topaz geyser]

There're at least two.

[hollow oracle]

just one, the bottom right is the rwy07L/25R view

im not surprised i got it completely wrong

[topaz geyser]

Oh. Right.

[hollow oracle]

airports are extremely, extremely chaotic in their layout, regardless of how sophisticated or unsophisticated they are

[topaz geyser]

Sorry, I'm falling asleep.

[topaz geyser]

Don't ever, ever, ever go to KORD.

[hollow oracle]

ohare is a nightmare for literally everbody

it sucks for pilots, it sucks for ground crew and maintenance, it sucks for passengers

I can’t remember what twy it is that’s literally off-roading

[topaz geyser]

Today on stream we were chatting about confusing airports, I mentioned KJFK, then someone mentioned KORD, and I realized that I've experienced it, but my brain just completely blocked out that nightmare.

JFK is not very complex, but it's very dense and saturated.

A rush hour roundabout.

IMO the best layout is groups of runways with terminals stretched in-between, think KATL or KDFW.

KMSP as a smaller example.

[full plank]

never had any issues with Dallas Fort Worth aerodrome

looks chaotic as fuck but never had any issues arriving or departing

[topaz geyser]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a very logical layout.

[mild zenith]

Red is where terminal 3 is being built

[woeful elbow]

MAX 8 is out

[hollow oracle]

this game just violently refuses me to fly lufthansa cargo flights

this is the 4th or 5th attempt? still havent taken off

this time engine 2 wouldnt start, even though engines 1 and 2 were started

going out of sequence and doing 3-2-1 rather than 3-1-2 worked

[hollow oracle]

make that 6

i forgot volanta doesnt like simbrief flight plans that are older than a few days, plus its good practice to actually re-submit after a few days to get up-to-date numbers

and MSFS crashed

[hollow oracle]

does the ifly 737 max have realistic MCAS nosedive/engine heater catastrophic failure/random speedbrake deployment simulation?

did they ever find out what made that ryanair flight nosedive too? that wasnt MCAS related but it was a boeing failure

[shadow burrow]

aaib still aint figured that one out

not MCAS

either gonna be a crew fuckup or a control system failure

[hollow oracle]

control system failure

[mild zenith]

you dont know that 🤷‍♂️

[hollow oracle]

it was a max 8 involved

[mild zenith]

doesn't need to mean anything

[hollow oracle]

finally, turkiye time

[hollow oracle]

holy shit

-790fpm landing

it would NOT go down, for some reason engines would not throttle back, so i ended up having to push down the nose really hard towards the runway

the aircraft went way below the glideslope too, i was getting a sink rate warning

i dont know if i want to delete it and redo the flight for the 9th time

[hollow oracle]

that ties for my worst landing ever

i mean, it was right inside of the touchdown zone, centered

[rustic charm]

Just a reminder that those -790 may well not be your actual landing ‘hardness’

The value could be big because you had a steeper descent rate before touchdown. Those numbers ain’t really all accurate, and a landing shouldn’t be judged just by that

[shadow burrow]

odds are its not an issue with the max

if it was then we would have seen a lot more from the AAIB

[mild zenith]

That's way more important

[hollow oracle]

probably because i had to pitch down pretty hard, the engines wouldnt roll back and it started floating and gaining altitude again

also, on an unrelated note, i love flight control replay

funnily enough this is actually my first successful lufthansa flight, literally every single one before this (including this flight) would refuse to work properly, in several different aircraft

really just europe in general i dont land well in, but lufthansa specifically is an issue

just to prove it, im going to do a UPS flight, and i would almost bet money that itll go significantly smoother

[trim harbor]

and homebound thru the night

guys

i think my engines broken

[mild zenith]

ENG 1 INOP

[trim harbor]

but aye

its startin

[hollow oracle]

normal max 8 behavior

[trim harbor]

yea im not really too suprised

it started somehow

this might be a very interesting flight

?

[rustic charm]

nan

[mild zenith]

The EFB doesn't fit the Max imo 😭

[hollow oracle]

nan's in the engine

[tired pond]

Get her out

[hollow oracle]

i get extremely jealous when i see the ifly max, and then i realize its the ifly max and you get stuff like this

[alpine coral]

"All together now!" ahhhh AI

[trim harbor]

its a public beta

im not complaining

i got it for $30 or something, which is fine to me

they advised it as such as well

[hollow oracle]

i really want to like the inibuilds a320neo, but its just not there

GSX is really fun with it atleast

okay, dont use sim rate with it and tab out

[woeful elbow]

yoyo

[lethal jasper]

the efb on the iFly max for msfs really needs the hybrid system for calculations, can't be bothered to maths conversions between F and C 😆

[woeful elbow]

fr

[lethal jasper]

nvm have to go into the efb "application preferences" page and "set seperate"... roundabout imho

but how to change hPa to inHg for calc ;-;

nvm enter the .
kek

[lethal jasper]

Heh, it updated with navigraph but didnt have any alt/spd restrictions into Atlanta 😂

[trim harbor]

cloudy ahh

[trim harbor]

vnav is terribly glitched

[trim harbor]

@reef isle https://fselite.net/content/big-radials-to-release-lockheed-jetstar-in-early-access/

mandatory ping for you

classic plane

[reef isle]

thank you so much

[mild zenith]

@trim harbor would you recommend the max

[trim harbor]

depends

the max is not a finished aircraft

i've had a few issues along the way

if you know that you're essentially paying for an alpha/beta test - sure

imho it's better than pmdgs' ng , sounds and visual wise

[hollow oracle]

i feel like the early access should be discounted tbh, judging by how very much in beta it is

[trim harbor]

very in beta is a hot topic

i wouldnt say so

[hollow oracle]

lesser price, you get it early, but your going to 100% encounter bugs

[trim harbor]

the bugs arent gamebreaking per se, just a bit annoying

e.g vnav (or lnav) calcs wrong and you have to do extra steps

nothing a good aviator cant do

i got it for $30 so maybe i am biased for the fact i didnt have to pay much

[rustic charm]

I mean, to be fair, discounted early access has never been a thing

In fact I only know of early access being more expensive than the release

[tired pond]

I think there's been a few random steam games

Like I think Factorio might have been

[hollow oracle]

Idk, just my personal 2¢

[untold finch]

Every single early access DCS module, Kerbal Space Program, Minecraft

I'm used to early access being discounted

[rocky prism]

I’d be truly surprised if they did that again, when you consider the costs of basing an aircraft over there, booking the crew hotels for the stay and extra security, it isn’t worth it. Besides, people complain about the new NEO seating after 2 hours let alone 8 hours to America 😂

I’m going to be careful as to what I say here, as I work for them myself, but I have not read of any plans to return to New York and it’s certainly not been mentioned at Leeds which did them before COVID. Don’t think they proved popular enough to bring back afterwards

Ok, we haven’t got any NEOs at Leeds, but we still get info on this stuff

[shadow burrow]

this was months ago lmao

they were in enterprise house and i cant remember what they said

[rocky prism]

I haven’t opened the chat for months and it just opened me there

[shadow burrow]

lmao

it was something about 321neo's doing transatlantic

[rocky prism]

Maybe next year, but definitely not this year

And if they are then they’re holding it close to the chest to the point where it’s not even on sale lol

[shadow burrow]

It wouldn't suprise me

most crews I speak to do overnights fairly regularly in cyprus, greece, india, canaries

so costs for hotels wouldn't really be anything more than they pay for anyway

[rocky prism]

I know LBA want long distance routes through airlines with NEOs like to Dubai and America, and Jet2 have got a deal with Air Transat now for connecting flights in Paris

Yeah, but the crew would be in New York the 4 nights as well and then fly them back

If they did it like they did prior, the aircraft flew out, the aircraft and the crew stayed there for 4 nights, then did the trip home

Something like 3 or 4 nights anyway

[shadow burrow]

this seems like some really bad crew scheduling

can be avoided easily

[rocky prism]

They’d definitely have to do it differently, but like I said I have no knowledge of this and I get emails with new routes a month or 2 in advance of public announcements

Saying that, rumours fly around like hot cakes

We were supposedly getting a 757 at Leeds for 2025 but their current final date is January 5th unless something changes

[shadow burrow]

would be nice to see

we don't get them at stansted anymore

its just the titan 321's and 738's

rare to see a neo

[rocky prism]

Yeah Stansted is mainly leased aircraft isn’t it?

Never been down that neck of the woods or looked into it

[shadow burrow]

yeah titan crews mainly

big base for u lot as well

[rocky prism]

We just get 737-800s owned by us and have the last few 300s

757s left here in early 2020 and A321s I don’t know when we’ll see them

[shadow burrow]

you see them coming in with the weird uniforms

[rocky prism]

We’ll be low on the pecking order

[shadow burrow]

kinda jet2?

kinda not?

[rocky prism]

Never seen a Titan crew before

They stopped using the Titan 757 at Leeds before I started

Seen Smartlynx ones before, had an A320 from them in 2019

God I hated that thing

But yeah Jet2 is good, service is great and they won’t just dump you in another country like some other airlines do. New York however, I’ve heard of nothing in terms of going back but if that’s a plan for the future, then fair enough

I know a lot of the 2026 season is finalised already I think, don’t know about being on sale yet

I’m just some unseen ramp agent so what do I know 😂

[shadow burrow]

at least you don't have to deal with stansted ground control

LBA has some good shit because its pretty much just one airline

[rocky prism]

Leeds is a chaotic hell in summer, way too small for the capacity they try to push

And we had less aircraft in from RyanAir and Wizz than planned thanks to problems on their side. Don’t even want to think how bad it would’ve been with original plans 😂

I only deal with Jet2 of course, but Swissport lads get some right grief

[shadow burrow]

we ran out of space on the ground at stansted this summer

slots meant aircraft had to taxi out to remotes to open the gate for other aircraft

[rocky prism]

We had a few days like that, couple of aircraft would land some days and sit 30 minutes for a stand

I think the post covid boom has just hit airlines so hard with everyone going away again, airports can’t expand quick enough

[shadow burrow]

we would just taxi out here and sit for hours on end

[rocky prism]

Stansted is getting a billion pounds investment now isn’t it?

[shadow burrow]

worst one was 2h 30 sat here

[shadow burrow]

just terminal improvements

[rocky prism]

Jesus Christ

[shadow burrow]

more bus gates

[rocky prism]

Slots seem to be bad this year for everywhere

Manchester some mornings is apparently really bad

[shadow burrow]

even now

got held up in lodz last week for 1h20 because germany was full

[rocky prism]

All the war zone diversions innit

[shadow burrow]

atm this is all the bus space we have

its 4 gates

you can only board 2 at a time as well

the new plans will increase it to 10 gates at least

meaning we can actually use the remotes

[rocky prism]

Our bus drop off is Stand 5, which rarely gets used as a stand

Not that I’m complaining, it’s too small

Can get a 300 on but it’s tight, equipment is a nightmare

[shadow burrow]

for drop of they just dump them here and they walk to passport

[rocky prism]

I expected Stansted to be a bit bigger for some reason

[shadow burrow]

doesn't help that the people mover keeps breaking

[shadow burrow]

its not small

we just get more traffic than any airport of our size should

[rocky prism]

Well, bigger in a sense of better set up for the operations

[shadow burrow]

we were built for 7 million a year

[rocky prism]

How many do you get?

[shadow burrow]

got 22 in 2022

this year im rekoning about 30

[rocky prism]

Yeah, that’s not good 😂

[shadow burrow]

probably more actually looking at pre covid figures

[rocky prism]

Don’t know what Leeds figures are, but they’re getting on with building the extension which will see arrivals. After that, I think departures is getting redone

[shadow burrow]

I mean when stansted expansion is done we will have capacity for 35 roughly

but we are gonna be way past that by the time its finished

10 years they are gonna have to build something new or start refusing flights

[rocky prism]

Actually not as many as I expected

Felt like more

[shadow burrow]

leeds is tiny tho

[rocky prism]

Oh yeah, but Jet2 through peak has about 15, sometimes 16 out in a morning and then 15 or 16 back out in afternoon alone

Which given the size is pretty tight

Wizz didn’t have as much traffic thanks to engine problems

Ryanair didn’t either because of their falling out with Dublin airport

[shadow burrow]

i mean this is me tmrw

insane headways

when there is fog at stansted it can fuck everything up

[rocky prism]

You guys are still pretty busy this time of year then

We had really bad fog today, well yesterday

[shadow burrow]

all year its like this

[rocky prism]

Didn’t get an aircraft in until half 11

[shadow burrow]

you get blocks where only out of base aircraft land

buzz, malta air or out of base RUK or DAC aircraft

[rocky prism]

On Tuesdays and Wednesdays it’s currently 6 back out in afternoon, other 5 stay

[shadow burrow]

fucking hell haha

[rocky prism]

Is malta another in the ryanair group?

Think we had one for first time other day

[shadow burrow]

even up to here we have small headways

[shadow burrow]

yeah

mainly italy and germany

as well as malta ofc

always get a big block of aircraft landing around midnight in the winter

like fucking picadilly circus around that time of night

[rocky prism]

Our 6 come back between 1 am and 3 am. Another month or so though will be back to flights down by 11 pm

A lot of pressure from the council though about noise pollution past 11 pm but think 737-800s are safe from it

[shadow burrow]

yeah you can tell its been a bad shift always when you see the jet2 crews walking out of the terminal haha

[rocky prism]

I think they’re brave, doing a 5 hour flight out, 1 hour turn and then straight back to get home at 5 am

No thanks

[shadow burrow]

half the people in stortford work at the airport so they are either used to it or are at work

[shadow burrow]

hour turnarounds are a luxury lmao

[rocky prism]

There’s a very expensive part of Horsforth/Leeds right at the end of runway 32 so, that goes well

Yeah we get 45, 50 minutes mainly through summer. Better than Ryanairs 35 at Leeds pfff

[shadow burrow]

35? we have 25 at stansted

[rocky prism]

This time though you usually get an hour at least

Yeah I’ve heard of those, I just think it’s stupid

[shadow burrow]

have the benefit of 40 min in barcelona tmrw

[rocky prism]

If you asked us to do a 25 minute turn, it’d take 20 to do the unload given how many bags we have

It’s depressing that a 40 minute turn is long to you

[shadow burrow]

3 min lofo

managed to do it in 19 min in ancona mid summer

[rocky prism]

Mad

[shadow burrow]

had a nasty slot

miss it and 3h on the ground

barely made it

[rocky prism]

We had a tail swap that led to a 20 minutes turn and it was 160 off and 120 back on

Funnily enough that didn’t happen

[shadow burrow]

nasty

its getting worse now at stansted

we don't get any of the "good" aircraft

so most times they are broken in some way

and we only have 2 standby aircraft available

[rocky prism]

Same, our fleet is pushed to hell through summer. But given the lack of space more than 2 go on a certain day which has happened, you’re done

We actually had 4 757s come in on standby, well looked after at Manchester and God I missed working on them

[shadow burrow]

ive done 3 days with 4 sectors where we don't have an APU

[rocky prism]

So much more room to play with

[shadow burrow]

running shit like faro, bari, athens in the summer with those is hellish

[rocky prism]

Yeah no APU sucks

[shadow burrow]

its common as shit now as well because they get beaten to hell with usage

[rocky prism]

I’ve only done an airstart twice but last time we needed to load another plane straight away, so that was a rush

And when the pilot looked at me dauntless as hell about hand signals that just added to the pressure

You’re on like 80k a year can’t you just remember them

[shadow burrow]

the summer as well, you get in at what 2-3am due to slots, they get sent to maintenance and have to be out by 550 at the latest to operates flights

the expansion is good tho

we can actually use the remote stands for more than 2 flights at once

[rocky prism]

We still just use remotes for inbounds, double we ever will for out. Unless they do they get the new terminal that end permitted and built

I had to do a turn at 9 pm this year, very strange for us

Managed to do it in 30 minutes to be told we’d be pushing at 11 pm 💀

[shadow burrow]

gg

no built in airstairs either

just realised that

[rocky prism]

Nope, all manual and boy does my back know it

Don’t even have the ones at Leeds with the motors on them

[shadow burrow]

nor do we for the rear

[rocky prism]

Well, we have 4 but no one has been trained on them yet

[shadow burrow]

but its just a tug that pulls them in

already preset to the right height

[rocky prism]

Yeah we drive close with rear stairs, then turn away

[shadow burrow]

we had a collision about 2 weeks ago because the water/waste truck drove into the tug pulling the airstairs in

[rocky prism]

Pull on last few feet

[shadow burrow]

oof

nasty

[rocky prism]

Wasn’t it Stansted where that caterer got taken out by the Ryanair

[shadow burrow]

yeah haha

[rocky prism]

After he drove into the thing 🤐

How do you not see a moving plane man 😭

[shadow burrow]

idk

we got some real idiots working here

especially the PRM geezers

[rocky prism]

Preach, some of our guys this year

[shadow burrow]

they don't understand what assistance means

[rocky prism]

I think it’s a rule that PRM at every airport is useless

They turn up to flights after it should’ve gone 😩

[shadow burrow]

drive up to the plane then sit there on there phones while the crew has to actually do the assistance bit

did helsinki on monday, picked up the aircraft from a crew doing 4 sectors, we still had a charlie onboard who was incapable of walking

assistance was booked

took them 35 min to show up

then when they did they stood at the entrance to the lift and asked us to help them with there luggage

then when that was done we had to carry them to the lift

actually ridiculous how shit they are

[rocky prism]

That takes some cheek my God

Even ours aren’t that rude although I’ve had to hold my tongue a few times

[shadow burrow]

we don't have a separate crew line at passport control

its assistance/crew

crew take 2 seconds to pass through since its just an ID check

I've had the ABM people push past crew who are queueing up waiting to get out of the airport

thats what takes some cheek

I posted about this in one of my rants in this channel lmao

[hollow oracle]

im trying so hard to make the inibuilds a320neo work, but it just wont

it blows past set altitudes in managed mode for literally 0 reason

its on an ascent profile to cruise, so it just sees the set altitude and blows past it on its way to cruise, does not hold

pressing in the altitude knob sets it into descent mode, because it has to descend to fucking match your set altitude

it was in purple altitude for some reason? that means its following an altitude restriction too, the last one was like 5 waypoints ago at the initial climb

my REALLY bold prediction is that the inibuilds a330 isnt going to be much better than the aerosoft one, unless if the A320 was just a fluke

the NWS with the inib one is INSANE too, its like fucking driving a formula one car, its 1:1 with the rudder control, so you can just jackknife the shit out on turns if you take it too quick

which makes takeoffs in any crosswind borderline impossible, just a tiny bit of steering to try and center it will make your aircraft ping-pong all over the place

[hollow oracle]

nope, it blew past my cruise atltitude too, i had to press the altitude knob again, descended and put my aircraft back into descent mode

[hollow oracle]

its really sad too, i love the FBW but just the basic fact that its the old asobo model, no interior, really does detract from the experience compared to other aircraft

[hollow oracle]

aaaand great, the worst thing possible that could have happened, happened

had to go around, put the throttle into TOGA, no go around

throttle was still auto throttle, even though the display said manual TOGA, still following glideslope and localizer, i had to turn off approach mode manually to start the go around (and even then i dont think it worked)

[lethal jasper]

I find the only issue with the ini 320n is the crz to decent sometimes freaks out and likes to think my descend alt is the new crz alt xD
other than that. its works fine for me

and it did it with fenix too, but was able to work around after resolving it. it was my own skill issue lol

[rocky prism]

Fenix is probably the only study level aircraft tha I've jumped into and being comfortable with the systems straight away

Still getting used to hand flying it though, as I haven't done much in the game in general since I'm still low on game hours

Need to just load up in some light aircraft and practice

[shadow burrow]

@rocky prism as if to prove my point a crew has been waiting to offload a PRM for 40 min already today

[rocky prism]

If I was the passengers I'd be giving the airport proper grief

[mild zenith]

My fenix a320 doesn't work properly, when I tab out the game the plane goes crazy for whatever reason

[shadow burrow]

I got a plane coming off Bremen today

So we will see if it’s the same

Barcelona Cork

Usually not many PRM’s

[hollow oracle]

Are you in the 2x speed perchance?

Because the weird way of how the aircraft interacts with a completely independent external software, the external software does not recognize lag spikes (both regular and caused by tabbing out) or active pause, and when both are over the plane will have phantom turbulence ranging from being brushed off as realistic, to roll and nosedive and unrecoverable

It’s even worse in 2x, because all of a sudden the plane tries to correct the lag spike, over corrects, tries to correct for the over correct, loop and repeat until your literally spinning out of control, quite literally a death wobble

When I tab out, I’ll usually get the cabin pressure vertical speed skyrocketing, to the point where it shoots above 10k in the cabin

[woeful elbow]

Full day of ops ended and lowi

[topaz geyser]

I didn't know MAX uses nuclear fusion engines.

[mild zenith]

What do you mean

[topaz geyser]

Salt Lake is quite... salty today.

[hollow oracle]

boing 737

[topaz geyser]

Worth it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561567814293520388/1293210749254242406/20241008_085314.jpg?ex=6713121d&is=6711c09d&hm=bdbc2d55cb1b24d68e169d612b77eb1c789b279c6289d233ebd2d61275cf8c5d&

(Me recently.)

[hollow oracle]

pretty awesome actually, its just that they take forever to load and have horrible LODs (the same can be said for the rest of GSX stuff though)

performance is pretty good though, obviously takes a little bit of a hit, but once you close the cockpit door they all cull out, so it really doesnt even feel like theyre there

and they load in the external view too, so you dont get a completely hollow cabin

i havent decided if im going to keep it on, adding them in an already extremely performance-heavy aircraft like the fenix does not help whatsoever, but it probably works great in the PMDG boeings

[shadow burrow]

vatsim down?

I cant login

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfxuirDjEg

[mild zenith]

@hollow oracle

[rustic charm]

Is Volanta down or something

Stopped tracking my flight

Shows me in the place where I was quite a while ago

[trim harbor]

it might be glitched still

unless they fixed it

try restarting volanta

[rustic charm]

If I restart it, I think the part of the flight will be gone 🥲

[trim harbor]

it should just eleport u to ur current location

[rustic charm]

Ah

Well, guess gonna try

It stopped tracking anyway so how could it get worse

[hollow oracle]

2x sim rate

I’ve had the phantom turbulence before, but only in 2x sim rate does it actually go out of control

[mild zenith]

I dont think so

Normal speed when I tab out and the game loses focus

Maybe its something to do with the settings in the software

[hollow oracle]

There’s no fix for it

[topaz geyser]

I feel like this video was made to address someone's very specific fear.

Unwarranted that is.

ED is a part of Pentagon supply chain, DCS World is their hobby.

[echo gorge]

One does get the feeling though something skeevy is going on behind the scenes

[hollow oracle]

normal for government related things actually

[rustic charm]

Welp, just completed my first transatlantic

BAW239 from Heathrow to Boston

My new longest yet with 5:59 flight time

Real life flight time is around 6:45 usually

[hollow oracle]

This is the second time the fenix has blue screened my PC today

It gets to about 3/4 loaded just fine, and then it completely freezes my PC

[topaz geyser]

https://i.imgur.com/bQknG2S.png

Weird, both inner runways are closed for some reason.

Or unused at least.

[trim harbor]

this has to be an early april fools

no fucking way

@untold finch

😭

[untold finch]

yeeeep

You know how many patches they've put out for Afghanistan since they released it 4 months ago? Even single-line bugfixes?

hint: it's less than 1

[trim harbor]

ed is such a fucking joke

[rustic charm]

Is it -2?

[trim harbor]

this is actually terrible lmfao

[untold finch]

if you count the fact that performance has gotten worse in the whole sim, which i guess affects afghanistan too, then yes 😉

[rustic charm]

[trim harbor]

i cant get over the fact that they're pushing a new map

same principle

while the other one literally hasnt even been touched

[untold finch]

yeah, it really comes off as a bit desperate to release this months after releasing another barely-ready map which already had a bunch of criticism

[rustic charm]

That’s genuinely upsetting

[trim harbor]

y'know instead of a NON desert map

where the fuck

is fulda gap

[untold finch]

They'll probably announce that next week at this rate

[trim harbor]

let me rewrite this

one moment

"Be among the first to be ripped off and see another deserts' diverse terrain and landmark like syria and PG by taking advantage of a special pre-purchase price of $48.99 instead of $69.99 before the official release. Watch the preview video!"

[untold finch]

i mean the feature list speaks volumes

"Full Aircraft Compatibility: Compatible with all existing DCS World aircraft modules."
"Multiplayer Support: Full integration with DCS multiplayer for expansive cooperative and competitive play."
if you have to pad your features out with "it works with your planes" and "it works in multiplayer" then something is a bit off

[trim harbor]

i was thinking of reinstalling dcs

i dont think i will

maybe ill spend that time towards bms

$40 for half a map is a crazy price