Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[hollow oracle]

https://youtu.be/zuu0P2FAsI4?si=pFnFwZihaRojSVYz

FINALLY

YES

[dusky leaf]

Am hearing the recently released msfs Huey is 💩

Anyone tried?

[lethal jasper]

As if I could fly a heli with a logitech extreme 3dpro xD

[shadow burrow]

Different team

It's actually in beta and you can sign up to test it. It's pretty good but the LNAV conflicts with it as of now

To be fair it's a tiny team and the fact that they have pushed an E170, 175, 190, 195, 195P2F and are now pushing a Lineage 1000 is crazy.

I think I'm gonna stick with my £1400 Virpil setup which definitely didn't almost put me in debt 💀

About time I've been waiting for the RJ series since 2021

Depends what you fly. Airbus has a very light feel. And it's got no feel on their new NEO and modern aircraft. Boeing is a bit stiffer because of the yoke. Old airbus and old Boeing are quite hard. But what's the hardest is russian aircraft. Like a TU-154 for example that's like a workout to fly. As for airbus and Boeing you'd probably not have to worry about your arm getting snapped off 😂

https://youtu.be/rZBMmapOOJ0?si=6f8JeA2F3eS7wy-Z

We also got this

So far from what I know.
The 777-300ER will release on the 25th
The MD-11 from TFDi on the 2nd
And the A388 from FBW in the foreseeable future

[untold finch]

Interesting. Taog's Hangar usually puts out great work. I've not heard anything but praise for the Huey so far.

I bought it as I was in the market for a new Huey, not tried it yet though.

[reef isle]

I can't wait for the Mercure, Air Inter was such a cool and interesting airline

[shadow burrow]

Failed ahhh airliner

Air Inter also operated the A320-100

[reef isle]

It's very successful in my heart ❤️

[shadow burrow]

Didn't they make like 5?

[reef isle]

I think 7?

[shadow burrow]

Good lord

[reef isle]

10 production examples, plus 2 prototypes that were converted to be used by Air Inter in service

[reef isle]

it's only 2 less than Concorde 😭

(although BAC/Aerospatiale didn't build 4 final assembly lines expecting to sell more than 300 aircraft)

[shadow burrow]

They made 20 or so Concorde's tho didn't they?

[reef isle]

wasn't it 14? 7 for BA and 7 for AF?

[shadow burrow]

Yeah but they had multiple test aircraft and multiple built simply for show

[reef isle]

yeah that's fair enough

so I guess it could be near 20?

[shadow burrow]

Yeah they built exactly 20

[reef isle]

cool 😄

[shadow burrow]

I know a pre production one is on the south of England

[reef isle]

In Le bourget they have 1 production and 1 protype as well

[shadow burrow]

The first Concorde had a badly designed nose cone

[reef isle]

yeah it looks a bit weird

[shadow burrow]

Also this exists 🤣

[reef isle]

where?

[shadow burrow]

This was at Heathrow I believe

[dusky leaf]

I wont take an opinion from folk who havent flown DCS or XP helis. For example the guy from helisimmer used to extol the virtues of the fsx heli flight model 😆

[echo gorge]

I've flown xp and dcs helos, the taog birds are actually pretty decent, yeah msfs has issues with helicopters but they're pretty decent, nothing on dcs or xp but decent

[untold finch]

And I'd be surprised if it's as fucked as the DCS Huey is since the engine "rework"

[wide zenith]

DD krakow is insane

[hollow oracle]

777 day tomorrow

[rustic charm]

Indeed is

Super excited

[wide zenith]

I've been scooped up in the hype, I said I wasn't gonna buy it but I've reconsidered

I probably won't do many long hauls in it, just non sensical hops around various places because big plen go brrr

[hollow oracle]

american does 9 flights daily with the 777 between charlotte and miami, which is absolutely going to be the first flight i do

ANA uses them on a ton of short domestic flights in japan too

[wide zenith]

Yup, various Emirates flights between kuwait, muscat, doha ect

bahrain too iirc

[trim harbor]

emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates emirates

im hyped

cant wait to fly ULR

just need the F now and im settled

[hollow oracle]

the A380 is going to kill me though, i cant put into words how excited i am to do the ANA flights with the turtle A380s between tokyo and honolulu

[trim harbor]

hifly charters w

i truly an happy for long haul to finally be a thing

4 years later

QOTS would be nic etoo

[hollow oracle]

https://www.anahd.co.jp/ana_news/en/2022/06/16/20220616.html

THEY HAVE MASCOTS, THE TURTLE PLANES HAVE MASCOTS

[echo gorge]

that's adorable

[wide zenith]

that is so cute

lil toorts

I can't wait for someone to do this

[trim harbor]

y cant i change them

cant disable it

horrible

cant fly like that fr

where da database

[rustic charm]

Well those planes aren’t only on long haul either, high capacity short haul works too

I’m gonna buy it and then keep flying the 737 until someone makes the Aeroflot livery for the 777 though

[tired pond]

I'm holding out for the 200 and F for the 777

[hollow oracle]

i bought the C-47 pack because i liked how they were donating 100% of proceeds to USO

it turns out i suck at flying both the DC-3 and C-47

it constantly wants to veer off to the left and down, i have no idea how you fly it and do other things at the same time

plus takeoff freaks me out, with how the tail rises up so fast and it just goes on its own

the sounds are also horrible, from the cockpit it sounds like the propellers were recorded from the ground, barely audible

even though your in a military aircraft from 1942

i saw theres an audio pack for the DC-3, but im not sure if that applies to the C-47

like, heres my first flight (that teleport back to the airport is a bug)

heres my second one, which is a little bit better with keeping it straight

[hollow oracle]

nevermind, thats intentional, the C-47 is encrypted so nobody can even mod the sounds or anything

also means the avionics are HORRIBLE

the proper DC-3 with the duckworks mod is a lot easier to fly, and sounds proper too

[lethal jasper]

PMDG's 777-300ER, The absolute trolls 🤣

[rustic charm]

Yeah

And it actually lets you proceed to checkout with that

Not even just to checkout, to payment

You can get it to paypal, it'll genuinely show "324.999.999.99" as the to be paid amount

Imagine if some billionaire just goes and buys that. What PMDG gonna do, deliver a real 777?

[untold finch]

Any idea what time it's expected to drop?

[full plank]

sometime during evening zulu

[untold finch]

Neat

Should be enough time to run from Renton to one of the big California airports

[full plank]

week off for me, so might just be a standard hop of the pond

[trim harbor]

goddamn in the evening

[rustic charm]

Folks don’t forget that on release the servers might be rather slow

So might take a bit to download too

[trim harbor]

i wonder how expensive it'll be

[rustic charm]

The price is on there already

324.999.999.99

[lethal jasper]

[trim harbor]

cheapst pmdg product

[rustic charm]

Aka, the price of a real -300ER

Though really I expect around $80-100

[tired pond]

Based on the fact it'll be 3 packs and not expansions like they've done before I'm expecting 69.99 tbh

[rustic charm]

Yeah to be honest it’ll probably be around what you pay for the 737s

[lethal jasper]

I assume they'll be released like the 737 as separate packs?

[wide zenith]

Don’t think they’re doing the normal 300?

at least they didnt for p3d

[rustic charm]

Yeah, gonna be separate packs probably

[rustic charm]

Yeah they didn’t do the regular 300 and iirc no regular 200 either

[untold finch]

Gib 777F

[wide zenith]

Wonder which one they’ll price lower

[trim harbor]

200 prob

um

did it release?

[eager moon]

1800z is what I've heard

[wide zenith]

website is traffic limited and plane isnt even released yet

[eager moon]

Pmdg haven't upgraded their servers since 2001

[hollow oracle]

can i say how much i hate zulu time

the railroads invented this awesome system of time zones, and the airline industry went "ahaha, nope", and now we have to convert times everywhere

[eager moon]

blinks

[hollow oracle]

to save 3 extra characters of typing out the time zone

[eager moon]

You apparently don't know what zulu time is lol

[hollow oracle]

i know that its GMT, and its to keep everyone on the same clock so theres no miscommunications

i get why it exists, but that doesnt stop me from hating it

[eager moon]

Could you hate something reasonable instead

[hollow oracle]

never

[eager moon]

Like daylight savings

[hollow oracle]

daylight savings is an affront to god

[untold finch]

Remind me, which airfield do 777s get delivered from?

Is it Paine, Renton or Boeing Field?

[untold finch]

It's Paine (everett)

[hollow oracle]

tutorial flight for the 777-300ER is out

https://777.pmdg.com/tutorial-flight/#/

tokyo haneda to sydney, it includes reccomended scenery packs, as well as the simbrief flight plan

[trim harbor]

where the actual plane

[hollow oracle]

wouldnt it be fucked up if they just delay it

[trim harbor]

i will actual kill myself

whey 24 more minutes for the 5th round am i right guys

[hollow oracle]

euro pilots got fucked

[trim harbor]

gonna skip uni frfr

[wide zenith]

or just don't have a sleep scheule

[hollow oracle]

i re-activated my navigraph subscription for this too

its not cheap

wouldnt it be funny if the actual price is 350mil though, and its just been out for the whole day and nobody realized it

[full plank]

hate my kidneys anyway, wonder who would buy them

[hollow oracle]

i think youd have to sell more than your kidneys to get 325 mil

[full plank]

nah its just about finding the right buyer

or just sell other peoples kidneys

[trim harbor]

time to take a few loans from g'ole bank

open a fake charity 😭

[hollow oracle]

"hi, i need a 325 million dollar loan to buy a 777"
"a real 777?"
"no, a simulator one"

atleast its giving me time to download the reccomended addons for the flight, i didnt have the global AI ships, and its like 3GB

[trim harbor]

im starting to loose hope

[untold finch]

they've probably pushed it back to tomorrow at this rate

[hollow oracle]

they better not have

or if they have, there better be an extremely good excuse

[untold finch]

Maybe RSR meant evening US time

[trim harbor]

nah they keep updating the profile banner

on facebook

prob same shenanigans as 737

[hollow oracle]

all of their P3D products were taken down

the idea being that they probably didnt want people accidentally buying the P3D 777

[untold finch]

9pm in the UK now, what a dud

[hollow oracle]

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/305521-hey-we-like-selling-the-737-but-not-when-you-want-the-777

maybe thats a sign you fucking release it?????????

[untold finch]

yeah they cause 90% of their own problems

[hollow oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb9LEgnjgIY

[trim harbor]

must be the most annoying launch by a mile

seriously

wont make it in time for a domestic

[untold finch]

yep, i have the week off but i don't really feel like staying up until 2 in the morning just to fly to KLAX

just going to wait for PMDG to finish pleasuring themselves over all the hype they've built up and release it, will probably just buy it tomorrow

[hollow oracle]

ITS COMING

[untold finch]

maybe he heard me

[trim harbor]

MFG ABOUT TIME

[untold finch]

https://tenor.com/view/well-we-are-waiting-come-on-bring-it-gif-18944947

[trim harbor]

5 mINUTES ITS BEEN 4

WHERE IS IT

[untold finch]

all that money and they still can't afford a watch smh

[trim harbor]

5 minutes

where...

[trim harbor]

we were fouled.

[hollow oracle]

someone keeps meowing on KPAE

SOMETHING IS HAPPENING

SALE IS OFF

THEY UPDATED THEIR BANNER OF THE 777 TAKING OFF

[alpine coral]

gg

[hollow oracle]

ITS OUT

ITS OUIT

$77.73

[alpine coral]

We good

[trim harbor]

ITS OUT

w bought

[alpine coral]

7773
I understand now 💀
Lol

[dusky leaf]

https://il2-korea.com/dd_1

[trim harbor]

i also am looking forward to that

[full plank]

bought the 777

excited to give it a fly

[trim harbor]

where email

[echo gorge]

ooh that's awesome

[wide zenith]

is out

anyone got their key yet

[trim harbor]

nope 😭

they're sending them out in batches

[full plank]

no amount of infrastructure upgrades can save PMDG

[trim harbor]

like someone said: pmdg is the only company that doesnt direclty give u a key and download

lol\

[alpine coral]

Nada

[wide zenith]

why they can't just have the key be in your account, and use the ops centre for downloads i'll have no idea

DRM moment or smth ig

[alpine coral]

Just got the download link

[trim harbor]

pissy system fr

[wide zenith]

today was great cause I bought the 777-300er and got access right away and i'm now totally sending it on a long haul

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[hollow oracle]

same

[untold finch]

still waiting for my email

how can we be in 2024 and still PMDG work like this

[hollow oracle]

triple seven acquired

for some reason, no ANA livery inthe PMDG operations center

[trim harbor]

i too noticed the exact same thing

rancid company

[hollow oracle]

vr???

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonald's-ice-cream-ice-cream-machine-machine-explode-gif-13882234145229312383

[alpine coral]

Yuup

Mad laggy at SFO but smooth at altitude

[wide zenith]

43 KPAE deps

damn

[eager moon]

20 sales per second

And their system couldn't handle it

That's crazy tbh

[wide zenith]

hopefully the 7 figures they just got will make them sort it out for the future, wishful thinking

because i bought idk 25 mins after, i'm still waiting 3 hours later

[hollow oracle]

they made almost half a million in 4 minutes off of the 777

that would be 369,600 just by that alone, and i didnt even count the 73 cents

[alpine coral]

Damn

[wide zenith]

yup

wouldn't be surprised if they've already covered dev costs

[hollow oracle]

wasnt the 777 in development for several years?

id say that just those 4 minutes alone would cover the dev costs, even over several years

[wide zenith]

3 hours 20 mins later

[hollow oracle]

very similar operation to a 737, some minor overhead panel changes

time scaling makes my game go at 1FPS though, but it does auto pause at TOD

time scaling managed to disable autopilot somehow, and im currently plummeting into the pacific, thanks boeing!

i actually cant tell if i am or not, because my camera is stuck facing upwards from the 1FPS, but i can hear the autopilot alarm and my camera is moving in ways it should not be as if im experiencing severe gforces

LOL, YEP, I JUST DIED FROM GLOC

[rustic charm]

So performance can be bad

[hollow oracle]

i havent found much performance difference between the inibuilds a320v2 or the fenix, definately heavier than their 737s though

[rustic charm]

I honestly don’t even know if my laptop’s gonna be able to handle the 777 xD

[hollow oracle]

my definition of a "good" FPS is far below standards though, so im not a good gauge of performance

[hollow oracle]

awesome, i cant even run the inibuilds a320 anymore

for some reason it wont power on with batteries or GPU, sometimes the flypad is turned off, and then the systems just never start up

fire tests dont chime either, and i cant use any controllers to control, and the FCDU is frozen

nevermind, spamming the "on gpu" panel state seemed to fix it

its really weird how live weather has no performance impact, but even just AI traffic halves my FPS, live traffic quarters it

i found out why the 777 took so long to release, you can click the pen

[alpine coral]

I saw it and had a feeling you could 😂

[hollow oracle]

the 777 is completely dead now, which is probably related

yoke is frozen to the side, throttles are stuck in TOGA, no tablets and i cant activate the tablet at all, no avionics work, but i can move the sun screens and stuff

[hollow oracle]

white woman jumpscare

[hollow oracle]

seriously...

the news of alaska and hawaiis statehood hasnt reached europe yet apparently, its taken 60 years to get there

it makes it even more embarrassing that, on their website, it says PMDG is in las vegas...

[trim harbor]

oh

considering how far north i am thats no suprise

[untold finch]

triple 7 installed, look forward to flying that later

[shadow burrow]

wow

PMDG fucked it up?

this really suprises me

I can't believe it

I'll stop clowning now but I did call it

[trim harbor]

In pmdg fashion ofc

Im kinda interested in getting the FF 777 ngl

[shadow burrow]

I don't have it but from what I've heard there is still some stuff thats non functional but there aim is to fix all the bugs they can before attempting a full release

everything key works

[trim harbor]

Does vnav work yet

[shadow burrow]

VNAV, FMC, ADIRU, EFB

[trim harbor]

O w

Im interested to see who'll finish their 777 lineup first

Pmdg or FF

[shadow burrow]

PMDG will because its like what 20 people?

FF have 2 plus someone working on textures

but having them work well

its gonna be ff

[shadow burrow]

also look at the texture work on this

the fucking freeware yak40 from xp9 has about the same level of detail

idk if its just the quality of this persons graphics or what but Its not a great look for them

[trim harbor]

What i noticed (maybe its just the livery?) that the wings are a grey asf and the livery is white asf

Flying rn but not at home i'll send some examples of what i mean in a few

[trim harbor]

Thats crazy lol

I thought FF had a team

[shadow burrow]

"team"

[full plank]

I hope PMDG does something about the sounds, right about now my washing machine would be a pretty good stand in for the engines

[shadow burrow]

FF are a tiny studio

thats why releases take so much time

[trim harbor]

Ftsim is my hope

[shadow burrow]

A320 and A350 have avionics made by toliss

I mean what the FF757v1 took 3 years to make

[full plank]

certainly made the 737 far nicer, hope that'll be the case with the t7

[trim harbor]

I dont doubt them

They made sounds for the CS777 so

[trim harbor]

The 757 good memories

[full plank]

thank fuck I didn't fly that

[trim harbor]

The 757/767 arent too bad even nowadays

[shadow burrow]

both work really well

[trim harbor]

They fly weirdly tho imo

Or i just suck

The 767 atleast

[shadow burrow]

are you on 11 or 12?

because they were made for 10

floatfactor my beloved on landing s

[trim harbor]

12

[shadow burrow]

yeah 2 generations of xp releases since they came out

the toliss 319 was the same when it came out for 11

had some strange control behaviour

[trim harbor]

Toliss so good

Msfs still no good 321/319

Atleast i can leave p3d for good now

[shadow burrow]

I still want them to release a 767 with different door configs

[trim harbor]

MSFS crahsed

bit annoying but is fine

[wide zenith]

the sounds are a big let down, everything else is great though

https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/s/dkGBW8sVyE

[alpine coral]

Facts 😂

[untold finch]

Seems to be behaving itself quite well 🙂

[wide zenith]

looks great

[untold finch]

Poor choice of callsign though
AAL1777
not fun trying to read out american seventeen-seventy-seven heavy quickly

oh you can click the pen!

[wide zenith]

stim toy!

[untold finch]

butter

[dusky leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ewbZItEbEU

[untold finch]

On the one hand, it's Jason Williams
On the other hand, actual pacific theatre stuff...

Cautiously optimistic

[dusky leaf]

Could just as easily come to nothing though

[hollow oracle]

wher ANA livery :(

ANA found :)

[trim harbor]

flightsim.to

[neat stirrup]

the 324,999,999.99 dollar price tag was a joke it seems

[trim harbor]

of course

[echo gorge]

that's always how they launch their store page

[trim harbor]

effiecieny

[hollow oracle]

i managed to blow up on the runway somehow

i was lined up, i went into TOGA, and then i got an overstress game over

[echo gorge]

honestly I'd really recommend turning damage off

you can get gameovered by so much stupid crap

[trim harbor]

thast super based

aeroflot has a hot livery

[alpine coral]

I opened a window with a modded C172 on a bush flight leg and it said I overstressed it

[wide zenith]

https://flightsim.to/file/76782/pmdg-777-300er-klm-royal-dutch-airlines-ph-bva-orange-pride-2019

[rustic charm]

Someone already made an aeroflot livery? That’s nice

[rustic charm]

Didn’t expect to see one this quick

[hollow oracle]

there are a ton of liveries already

[trim harbor]

hate the stupid tokyo approaches and their low altitude

[hollow oracle]

i havent been brave enough to land the 777 yet

from what ive seen though, it looks like its pretty much just a normal descent and approach, like the 737

[trim harbor]

yup

[rustic charm]

The operations shouldn’t really be that different from a 737 tbf

[trim harbor]

golden hour over yokohama

[trim harbor]

it's 1:1 the same

[hollow oracle]

getting the aircraft set up is closer to the 787, but the actual flying is similar to the 737 it seems

autostart, the hydraulics systems are different, packs and stuff are automated

[rustic charm]

It should handle much differently though, but that’s about it. And it really shouldn’t matter too much if you go ILS, cause you have almost no manual flight. But even then, just gotta get used to how it handles anyway and it should be just fine

[trim harbor]

it feels way better than the 787

[rustic charm]

Tbh I haven’t really tried flying the 787 much

[rustic charm]

I’ve flown just the 737 and the 738 for the past couple months

[trim harbor]

that was a really short flight

[trim harbor]

still the best plane in msfs imo

[rustic charm]

Short hauls on big planes is a nice thing tbh, if you don’t have too much time to do a long flight

[trim harbor]

i dont like the fenix too much

[rustic charm]

I myself don’t have the fenix, but I heard it takes a hit on fps

[trim harbor]

i dont like it running on an external software

absolutely horrile

[hollow oracle]

the external software eats any CPU available

and causes issues with connecting to the sim

[wide zenith]

idm the external stuff I just hate how it flies

[rustic charm]

Well, that’s a bit off putting

[wide zenith]

I love it all the way up till the point it lands

[hollow oracle]

the fenix is SUPER floaty

[rustic charm]

But to be honest, I prefer flying Boeing anyway

[hollow oracle]

im a diehard airbus fan, but with the 777 coming out, im realising how much better boeing is simulated in MSFS

both in variety and FPS

[trim harbor]

longest 777 flight

[rustic charm]

Tbh I should more appropriately say though, I prefer Boeing overall, but flying I just prefer having a yoke

[trim harbor]

@shadow burrow

[rustic charm]

Well, to be honest, we only really have the PMDG stuff and the Asobo 787/747. I guess the maddogs if you count them, but it’s not really Boeing. The rest is mostly rather bad. But truly, Airbus is represented even worse, cause you have the Fenix, the iniBuilds 300/310, and that’s about it for the good ones

[untold finch]

FSS 727 next month at least

and it'll be feature complete rather than EA like the e-jets

[wide zenith]

back into heathrow

[wide zenith]

Probably be closer to the end of the year

ini a350, aerosoft and ini a330, fbw 380

i'd be surprised if we didn't have the 319/321 soon

[rustic charm]

Plus potentially the JF 300. Potentially

But we’ll also get the 727 soon (although only the freighter for now)

And the Bluebird 757 is probably gonna be out towards the end of the year. At least I sure hope so

[eager moon]

I want an a318

[hollow oracle]

we really need an A321

hopefully the fenix one in the works can pull through

[alpine coral]

GFA: Shows a convective SIGMET with thunderstorms up to FL390
MSFS: At FL370

[wide zenith]

p42 777 immersion pack inc

[shadow burrow]

Shit really?

Gonna be honest I don’t think it’s 100% ready

The 742 still has a large amount of cross intergration issues

In fact all Quadjets do

[alpine coral]

Link?

[shadow burrow]

Xplane only

Oh no links

Uhhh

https://sharedflight.com/

[alpine coral]

Ah, gotcha 👍

[rustic charm]

MSFS live weather is very often clearer than should be in my experience

I’ve been flying Alaska a bit, almost every flight there should’ve been rather stormy, or at least rainy, weather. MSFS however each time gave me nothing more than fair cloud weather

The only time it gave me weather I’m certain was more or less true to life was my latest landing at Sheremetyevo, and even then I’d argue the storm in game was not as powerful as it was in reality

[mild zenith]

Source? Link, trying to find informations

[trim harbor]

@mild zenith

Xplane only

[mild zenith]

Thank you mate

[untold finch]

This might be one of the best helicopters in MSFS now

[untold finch]

It's more tame than the DCS one for sure, but it's probably about 80% of the way there, felt familiar
looked a lot nicer, sounded good too

[dusky leaf]

Its decent? Im aware of your DCS chops, would absolutely take your opinion

[dusky leaf]

Different attitudes to simming. I dislike anything where there are no consequences for not doing it right. Neither of us are right or wrong, just different perspectives

[dusky leaf]

Does it feel “sassy”? (stability augmentation)

Most msfs aircraft feel that way to me

[untold finch]

It definitely feels more "dampened" than the DCS one, yeah

That said, the fact that MSFS has gusty, changeable winds means that you have to work a little bit harder in the hover

My main hope is that 2024 has better helicopter FM modelling, and this should be fairly straightforward for devs to update to

[mild zenith]

PMDG 737 if it was on mobile

[trim harbor]

geez

[untold finch]

Shame BATC doesn't have any weather divert stuff yet, that'd be fun to try.

I wish they'd added more than just "perfect day, take the approach you're given, no traffic" to start with

[echo gorge]

I want consequences, I don't want the sim deciding I died because gsx was overzealous on pushback or I opened a window that's permitted to be opened in flight irl

I left damage on in x-plane because it generally felt sensible (and it actually damaged you instead of just giving a game over) but the way msfs does it is bs

[alpine coral]

Damn, I'm hoping they improve this in 2024 at least

[reef isle]

airliners can survive some situations that go beyond what common sense would make you think. Thinking of things like Icelandair 315 and Dynasty 006.

I don't need the sim to tell me I did something bad, I'm good enough to judge by myself, and end the flight myself in that case

I'm often my worst critic anyway

[trim harbor]

last flight for the day at okinawa

[ocean trellis]

[dusky leaf]

There was a good aircraft in XP that would fail the engine if you overtorqued for even a second, just as unrealistic as one you could overtorque all dsy long

day

[glass totem]

Hmmm

[echo gorge]

Yeah that sort of stuff is dumb, I like the wear based (and ti some level random) failures of stuff like the REPs and a2a

[hollow oracle]

how do you get a boeing to register a new altitude anyway?

the only way i know is disabling and then re-activating vnav, but there has to be a better way

[wide zenith]

alt intv next to altitude select

on the 777 you just click the altitude knob

[hollow oracle]

another buttery* landing

*the butter thats like frozen solid and rips up your bread when trying to spread it

my OBS didnt want to die while recording that too, which is nice

a few lag spikes during encoding though

that was a -345fpm landing apparently, really doesnt look or feel like it though

[hollow oracle]

They actually made an Otto pilot cockpit crew mod

[rustic charm]

Only thing, if your desired altitude is below your current, that sometimes can result in the plane deciding “Well they probably want that altitude NOW” and going for a controlled, yet still steep 5k+ fpm dive

While that may not be accurate or correct, I usually do the descend just with v/s or level change

[glass totem]

Virtual airline stuff with an a320 neo and a a310

[shadow burrow]

fuck

I can't fly 737's in sim anymore

I'm seeing too many inaccuracies

[rustic charm]

I thought those were more or less correct

[shadow burrow]

no

[trim harbor]

volantaa just randomy lost connection lo

[lethal jasper]

I just saw the taxiway Y bridge at DFW in MSFS 💀

[hollow oracle]

https://youtu.be/gXQQ1YC-JyY?si=3pV__WT7QowHIr_V

its good to know that im already qualified to be a ryanair pilot with my -400fpm landings

[dusky leaf]

Flight simmers tend to go for “greasers” The definition of a hard landing is aircraft dependant

Generally speaking you should fly the aircraft down. Greasers waste runway length

[hollow oracle]

personally, because flight simming is just a side hobby for me, if my wheels touch the ground and i can exit the runway safely, its a successful flight

which, coincidentally, is also ryanairs standards policy

[reef isle]

have you become a rl 73 pilot?

Congratz 😄

[hollow oracle]

i was going to say, i dont think PMDG would be as popular as they are if their planes were inaccurate, even real pilots regard it as pretty accurate

unless if theyre referring to the bredok3d 737 max, that plane is horrible

[hollow oracle]

MSFS decided turning on the packs was too much, and crashed after this screenshot

[shadow burrow]

no no no

cabin crew

[reef isle]

still cool 🙂

https://youtu.be/-cNeMi9GiAY?si=f_gbzQ2jLPhpuVOv

only 4 days left ❤️

[hollow oracle]

im only now discovering how useful sim rate is

laggy, but it makes doing long haul flights in one sitting actually possible

[rustic charm]

Is that the thing basically speeding up the game?

Never tried it tbh

Also I see Alaska, nicey

Love me some Alaska action. Wanna do a milk run soon

[hollow oracle]

yeah, its seperate from the jump thing

[hollow oracle]

i forgot how much i absolutely love the fenix a320 (this is sarcasm)

external software doesnt want to connect, if you lag too much the plane gets phantom turbulence enough to take you out of the sky, and the lag is usually caused by the external software itself

that is, if the software even wants to launch

[hollow oracle]

for some reaosn i thought it was a good idea to fly out of LGA in the fenix too, im getting under 10FPS sitting at the gate facing the skyline

[green egret]

stayed up till 4am to do this flight

[hollow oracle]

i like to call this piece "well, shit"

i got frustrated by the fact that doing a TOGA takeoff put me into go around mode

so i cut the engines, put out all flaps, speed brakes, and landing gear, and then went into a nosedive to land it in the nevada desert

i also realized that the "comfortable" FPS i was playing this game at, was actually 20-24, not 30+

and i also realized that my PC is not powerful enough to run the fenix A320 regardless

AMD RX 570 8GB
16GB RAM (8x2)
Intel i5-6400 3.3GHz
HP 2B47 Motherboard
2TB HDD + 4TB HDD
Windows 10 Home Edition

[rustic charm]

Tbh never tried the fenix, I don’t have it, but this even puts me off further xD

[hollow oracle]

i managed to optimize my MSFS settings a ton, because my PC is so CPU bottlenecked, im actually able to go up to almost ultra and maintain 20FPS

[rustic charm]

I have a laptop and the only thing that limits it really is overheating

When it’s not overheated, I run MSFS on high-ultra fine, I run TS with good stock fine, I run RDR2 on high-ultra fine

[hollow oracle]

I just get so hyper fixated on FPS, and it usually leads me down a spiral of being burnt out of playing video games entirely

Even though I’m fine with 20FPS, and I’ve done like 3 hour flights with that framerate, all of a sudden it’s not good anymore because people have better PCs and standards than I do

And it gets to the point where every game doesn’t perform good at all, and just my PC overall doesn’t perform good, and then I just can’t even be on my PC because I get so much anxiety that my performance is so bad

[rustic charm]

Well to be honest 20 is not too bad

[hollow oracle]

Yeah, but 20FPS maxes out my CPU and now my GPU, and I’m worried about parts wear because I cannot afford to replace any parts in my PC, even though most of them are from 2015-2016

[rustic charm]

Yeah, it’s understandable

[hollow oracle]

So it’s like, do I even play to risk breaking my GPU or CPU or motherboard?

And then tomorrow afternoon I’ll be back playing MSFS like I was this morning, with nothing wrong at all and not worrying about FPS

I’m just always tormented by YouTube videos of people playing literally any game at ultra settings with no issues, but my PC, laptop, and Xbox one can’t even manage to run most games at 60

It seems like it’s just unachievable to me, yet every where I go it’s like “I’m getting 60 FPS when I usually get 120, how do I fix this”

[tired pond]

Tbh I don't know why but I can never get to grips with how it flies, I'm very much a non fbw person

[rustic charm]

Always flying yoke myself too

Tried flying A320s, pretty much all but Fenix - the default, the ini one, the FBW one - but never really enjoyed it tbh

[shadow burrow]

I prefer it honestly

Sidestick just feels right to me

[wide zenith]

Same, its also convenience and smaller so if i want to play smth else its easy to swap over. I'd only get a yoke if there was an affordable FFB yoke

[trim harbor]

scary ap

[hollow oracle]

ive hit a breaking point with MSFS

i need to switch back to FSX

but i cant, because the aerosoft airbus is the only thing worth flying, and that doesnt even support an xbox controller

and im not setting up my throttle and joystick every single time i want to play FSX

and im not downloading malaware from flight sim labs,i cant even afford it anyway

[trim harbor]

14.41 hours till munich 😭

[hollow oracle]

when 2 days worth of depression and mental suffering culminates in "i guess thats just how it is"

FSX runs at 20FPS because its CPU bound like railworks is, MSFS runs at 20 because its CPU bottlenecked, and i dont have the money to move over to xplane, plus xplane doesnt get any of the media attention or mods that MSFS gets

[reef isle]

I ran into similar issues recently with MSFS

Have you tried to fiddle with the settings to at least sort of balance out CPU/GPU?

[hollow oracle]

i have, i found that i can go up to almost high settings and still maintain a constant 20FPS

[reef isle]

Have you tried switching between Dx11 and Dx12? Although it's not going to help greatly I think it could be worth checking Frame Gen/DLSS

[hollow oracle]

tried both, DX11 works the best because it has less memory draw, that one framegen software on steam doesnt work that great because it gives artifacting

[reef isle]

I see, well, I'd personally start with everything set to the lowest it can possibly be, if that's still 20fps then that would be a problem, but if it isn't try to then mess around and see what setting impact CPU or GPU

But I suppose you already did that

[hollow oracle]

already did that, using the dev settings you can see the sims CPU and GPU draw, and even on the lowest my CPU is maxing out at around 20

going up to high is about the highest for my GPU

[reef isle]

Hmmm, I noticed the same since SU15, but just assumed it was msfs messing around with my settings (again) I wanted to go through them properly again, but I don't think I'll bother, I'll just wait for 24

[reef isle]

That's fair enough, although it's weird that FSX doesn't run any better

I have FSX and it runs a lot faster on my system

[hollow oracle]

i was getting 20FPS on the aerosoft A320s, which are like the best in the sim

[reef isle]

Ah... I only fly the Mercure in FSX, so that might be the reason

Although I flew the JF L1011 for a while

But sorry, not sure how to help

[hollow oracle]

there is no solution but to come up with the $600 to upgrade my PC

and thats just the CPU

well, i think i did find one of my FPS issues, atleast with the A320s

i had the south oak co pack for the A320

im not sure if it applies to the fenix too, but it seems like it did, because im noticing a noticable FPS boost without it

just as i say that, the game crashes, great

[hollow oracle]

its only the A320neo

i dont know why im seeing an FPS boost, i did get rid of a few global improvements though, mostly the runway lights, the improved jetways, and the high res taxi signs

im sure cleaning up my MSFS community folder is good too

im feeling a lot better atleast, hopefully after i force myself through a full flight using the fenix, i should be okay

[wide zenith]

joining the flight everyone and their nan has done, KPAE-KSFO

[hollow oracle]

I haven’t done a delivery flight yet, but I got that KPAE add on for it, I’m impressed as hell with how detailed that airport is

[tired pond]

Have you tried autofps?

[trim harbor]

super north

[tired pond]

I'm loving flying the mini 73 atm

[trim harbor]

omg clouds cleared up

[glass totem]

Is it the PMDG one

[tired pond]

There's others?

[trim harbor]

boooo

[trim harbor]

finally descending

[glass totem]

I only use aircraft off the in game marketplace so they are the only ones I know

[rustic charm]

There is another one on the marketplace too, the whoever it was 737MAX

Quite bad though I heard

[rustic charm]

I don't have the real mini 737, but I do have the -700, and it's quite nice to fly the slightly smaller one too

Very used to the 738 myself since I've been flying pretty much just that, but the 737 also feels nice. It isn't so much smaller that it flies completely differently, but it is still different in how it feels. Slightly, but imo it can be noticed

[glass totem]

Was considering buying it but the new game will have a max in it

[rustic charm]

Well I heard it's so bad that considering buying it should be out of consideration

[reef isle]

Not that max

Asobo Is going to make one, and it's going to be a default aircraft in MSFS24.

PMDG is making them as well, they should release in between the 777 variants

iFly is also doing them, they showed some screenshots recently

[rustic charm]

I knew about Asobo and PMDG are doing them

[trim harbor]

it's gonna be good

the ifly for p3d is already really really good

[rustic charm]

Tbh I wish PMDG did classics though

-400 combi would be awesome for MSFS

(I fly Alaska, how could you guess)

[trim harbor]

maybe cs will do the 737 classic 💀

they have it for p3d so i dont see why not l o l

[rustic charm]

I own nothing of CS and given the reviews I don't really want to either tbh

But well, can't have everything made in good quality

[reef isle]

I really thought BlueBird was going to do it, as the systems are extremely similar to the 75 and 76, but apparently their next project is the 787... 🙄

[rustic charm]

Still could be a possibility at some point

[reef isle]

Considering how far away the 787 is, it would be so remote, even thinking about it would be a waste of time

[rustic charm]

True

The 787 is a couple years away I reckon

For now I'm gonna be happy with the 757

[trim harbor]

not another 787

[reef isle]

Welcome to MSFS, we have:

3x A320neos
2x B727s
3x B73M
2x B787
2x A330s

Yet no TriStar, no Bac 1-11, no Trident, no Comet, no Convair, no DC-8 and no DC-9

[rustic charm]

Eh, we kinda only have one yet I think? There are of course the -9 and -8 but I don't count them since they're based on the Asobo dreamliner

[rustic charm]

We have 2 727s?

I thought there was just the FSS one

[reef isle]

FSS and FsReborne

FSS will initially only do freight. FSR will only do the -200adv AFAIK

[rustic charm]

And also shouldn't it be 4x 73Ms:
Whatever one is available rn on the marketplace
Eventual PMDG
MSFS2024 one
iFly

[reef isle]

Let's not count the bredok

Otherwise I'd also have to count all the LVFR fleet

[rustic charm]

True

Also, overall, shouldn't it be more A330s if we count everything

[reef isle]

Without the LVFR, it would be 2xA330s (ini and Aerosoft), plus the Beluga XL

[trim harbor]

dont we too have 2x a350s

ini and this one freeware one

and 2x a380

[reef isle]

The freeware One Is dead IIRC

[reef isle]

Ah yeah, that as well...

WHY

[trim harbor]

wait why

[rustic charm]

Also technically PMP 333 and Headwing 339

[reef isle]

I haven't heard of them in a while I think?

[trim harbor]

the pmp 333 is dog

[rustic charm]

I heard so, yeah

[reef isle]

And headwind isn't really any better than a LVFR

[trim harbor]

idk abt the 339 so

[rustic charm]

Headwind is better than LVFR at least with one aspect: it's free

[trim harbor]

the cockpit looks so awful so i dont really wanna try

[wide zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGK1l43S2BQ there was a dev update a month ago

[reef isle]

That's fair enough, the systems are also better, they're just not the ones of an A330

[reef isle]

I just missed it then

[tired pond]

There's more unique aircraft coming tbh though

[reef isle]

Cool. 2x A350s as well 😄

[tired pond]

Honestly can someone please make a 73 classic

[rustic charm]

Still, I only installed it to try it out and have an attempt at a widebody really

[wide zenith]

the problem is all the modern stuff just sells better

[rustic charm]

Exactly

[trim harbor]

has anyone tried the ini a320

[rustic charm]

True, the MD11 is almost here

It's what, 2 days left?

[reef isle]

Yep

2nd of July

[rustic charm]

No idea if I will pick it up right away, but eventually - for sure

[trim harbor]

good plane

[reef isle]

I preordered it when they had the FSexpo sale

[rustic charm]

Rn I'm in a choice between the 777 and the MD11, and I really can't choose....

[trim harbor]

idk how much i spent on the CE again

too much probs

[reef isle]

First thing to do with the MD-11 is make the Alitalia livery 😛

[tired pond]

I think i'll hold on both as I'm more a short haul guy who sometimes does long hauls and we've got something which I'll fully have to learn coming anyway with the RJ

[rustic charm]

I'm more short haul too tbh

[reef isle]

Unfortunately the RJ is planned for August I think, which means it'll probably be out in September (hopefully)

[tired pond]

Yeah, want to save money though 😛

[rustic charm]

The RJ and F70/100 are gonna be nice too

[tired pond]

I cannot wait for the Fokkers myself, fully my era of aircraft lmao

Very similar system wise to the 737 classic

[rustic charm]

I have both the 146 and the F28, so for me getting those is gonna be a direct evolution xD

[reef isle]

I don't think I'll really fly long haul with the MD-11, I'm planning to fly a lot with the charter/travel agency's airlines in Europe, I think mostly LTU and Martinair (I hope I'll also find some other dead airlines).

Only long hauls I've planned are Alitalia routes to Kai Tak and Osaka

[reef isle]

I'm thinking of skipping the RJ, as I think I'll find the 146 more fun, but I'll definitely get the F70/100, mostly for some cool airlines in Europe and USAirways/American regional ops

[rustic charm]

Honestly with MD-11 I'll probably do freight hops around US mostly once I get it

[reef isle]

I'd rather do that with the 727

[rustic charm]

Why not both?

[reef isle]

Because I don't want to get burned out

[rustic charm]

Fair

[reef isle]

But fair, I think that's what most people are going to do with the MD11

Although given the choice I would have taken a TriStar

[rustic charm]

Oh a Lockheed would be wonderful

[reef isle]

Why do we get the stupid inferior trijet 😭

[rustic charm]

Oy, all trijets are nice

With my bias though I'd take a tu-154 above all

[reef isle]

The MD-11 only exists because MD didn't have enough money to do anything else.

Imagine if they would have made the DC-10-Twin, and the "MD-11" would have been an evolution of that, competing with the 777

What a different world we'd live in

[rustic charm]

Yeah, would be really different indeed

[reef isle]

That, and the Tu-134 are the reasons why X-plane11 will remain installed

What a big shame we don't have more russian aircraft

[rustic charm]

Wouldn't mind a tu-114 either tbh

[reef isle]

I'd love an IL-96, 86, 76. Or an AN-74

[reef isle]

Tu-114 would be AMAZING, But no... Let's do another 787

[rustic charm]

And for more modern a tu-204

[rustic charm]

ILs would be amazing indeed

Honestly I'm rather sad Aeroflot retired theirs and I never got to fly on one

[reef isle]

I think Aeroflot has started to take new IL-96-400Ms

[rustic charm]

Nope

They're sticking to Boeings and Airbuses for now

[reef isle]

Oh really? Did they refuse?

[rustic charm]

At least no ILs in service yet, and I've not heard of plans to purchase any

[reef isle]

I haven't followed this thing in a long while, but I thought Aeroflot didn't want them because 3-man cockpit (lol), but they were going to be more or less forced to get them anyway

They are in production currently, right?

[rustic charm]

I think so, yeah

[trim harbor]

il62m PLEASE

[rustic charm]

Well, as in, I believe production lines exist in functioning state

[reef isle]

Best I can do is another A320ceo

[trim harbor]

what i would do for a proper il62 😭

we have never had a good one i believe

[rustic charm]

Cause I doubt any are being made right now really, no demand for them, at least yet

[reef isle]

Yeah, There are loads of soviet planes that are missing in both msfs and xplane

[rustic charm]

Yeah

To be honest I can understand why kinda, it's probably a challenge to develop them

[reef isle]

I think there just isn't enough customer base

I'm fairly sure that making a "decent" plane like those wouldn't be too hard

Which is why we're getting a 707 with the world update

[rustic charm]

More precisely there isn't a lot of paying base

[reef isle]

It's just that people don't bother

Also, honestly, in a world were we got the freaking Latecoere before a Caravelle, do you expect people to do a Tu-114?

[rustic charm]

Ehh, it depends. Retired soviet aircraft, probably yeah. Currently active ones like IL-76/96? I doubt getting reference would be easy

[reef isle]

Yeah that's fair enough

[rustic charm]

Even if you manage to get visual reference, all the technical stuff is probably behind a lock

[trim harbor]

because 80% of the people are children of the magenta line

too retarded to do anything with a plane that doesnt have a fmc and purple line with it

[rustic charm]

Plus as you said, not enough customer base. Developing a plane isn't really easy, and especially for a new dev, very tough financially. And considering that, to be fair, most of the Russian players would see a shiny new plane released and go quickly aquire it in an illegal way which wouldn't generate any income for the dev

[rustic charm]

Nah, to be honest, there's plenty of pilots in Russia who can manage a less computerised plane. After all, a bunch of them are still in service with the government, for example a bunch fly for MChS (ministry of emergency situations, our fire rescue)

[trim harbor]

well pilots in russia but

i'm talking about the entire community

[rustic charm]

Ah, you're talking about the flight sim xD

Yeah, to be honest, I myself don't really like not having an FMC, although still can fly

[trim harbor]

yeye i didnt mean irl

im fine w not having an fmc, adds a challenge

at the very least i'd like an efb toh

[rustic charm]

Well I don’t mind not having one occasionally for a challenge

But for most of the flights, I prefer having both LNAV and VNAV

Depends on the flight though. If it’s some small hop, I don’t care. If it’s over an hour, I’d prefer more automated planes

[hollow oracle]

is this a known bug or am i slow?

the legs dont show up either, yet the flight plan is loaded

found it, you have to hit load route and THEN activate and execute

also, theres a PRMUS waypoint somewhere inbetween charlotte and miami, and i have no idea if it relates to the band primus or not

theres also TUPAC into miami

[hollow oracle]

i also want to mention how night and day my performance is between airbusses and PMDGs boeings

im not going to look at the FPS for fear of another mental breakdown, but it feels MUCH smoother

[tired pond]

737 runs really nice

same with maddog

[hollow oracle]

not only is it smoother, i have spotify and a twitch stream open in the background while im setting up the 777, and im very comfortable with the performance im getting

i am going to finally land this bitch too, now that i know how the sim speed settings work

[tired pond]

How's everyone else finding beyondatc now it's been out like a month btw?

I've only had 1 bad approach out of like 12 now and tbh the airport had a really weird setup so (was KGSP, look at the charts and you'll see what I mean for some runways)

[hollow oracle]

nevermind, the sim doesnt want to recognise my controller because of vjoy, so i have to reboot

[hollow oracle]

in the few flights ive done, i dont feel like its particularly outstanding, which is both good and bad i guess

its very on-par with their 737s, with a few features i wish they would go back and add to their 737s, like the movable tablet and the better ground services app

[wide zenith]

I haven't used it in weeks, however my main two grievances were that a lot of the time beyondatc wouldn't use the same runways as irl (which is incredibly difficult as its always ever changing and airport dependent), and that speech recognition didn't work well with my voice. I need to give it a go with auto respond and see how it fairs

[hollow oracle]

(my brain is cooked, i thought it said the 777 )

[wide zenith]

I agree with this take tho on the 77w, I like it, planning on doing more flights with it this week, but the sounds are just a huge let down imo mostly on spoil up

[hollow oracle]

BATC is okay, i dont really feel like launching it and getting it set up for most flights, but it is far superior to the default ATC

plus its kind of annoying having to trial-and-error your way through which airport addons work, and which ones dont

which is especially frustrating, because the one chicago ohare addon that i have does not work with BATC, the taxi routes and runway layouts are completely messed up, which eliminates a ton of flights that i could use BATC for

[trim harbor]

Better than on release, i dont use it too often either right now because im lazy

I‘m waiting for AI to drop

[hollow oracle]

i have no clue what happened

i think i was on the ILS, but it didnt acquire for whatever reason, and i dont know how to check i was on the right freq

for some reason the waypoint at the beginning of the final was 3000, and it locked me to that altitude even though i had approach on for the glideslope

not to mention the final for some reason was extremely short and twisting

the nav is completely fucked up for some reason too, it says i havent even hit the runway yet, tohugh im literally right above it

now i had an alarm for autopilot, LNAV shut off

the plane has a mind of its own now, the missed approach should have been to the left, but now its flying me to the right

[trim harbor]

777 autotunes

your ILS is in stby, you were too high for the GS to capture

[hollow oracle]

i dont trust autotune, especially after that one approach i had in the inibuilds a320, it can just be completely wrong sometimes

[hollow oracle]

atleast i know i was too high because of the extremely short final, i think somewhere in programming the route, the approach got cut off somewhere

[trim harbor]

it should've still compensated the direct

[hollow oracle]

?

[trim harbor]

if the approach got cut off, by either the computer or yourself, vnav still compensates for such

from what i can see is that you probably tried to intercept the GS at 3000ft

it didnt capture and you remained at that altitude

because the waypoints' saying 2500ft while you were at 3000ft

or 1500 i cant really read

i don't believe that the plane itself made a mistake there

[hollow oracle]

on the approach plate, it says that it should have captured at 3000ft at the waypoint before that

the waypoint i was on was for 1500ft, but thats on the glideslope

is the little X on the approach chart the intercept point?

i think i read it wrong

what would the arrow be indicating then?

i think i was supposed to be at 1500 by LAWNN to intercept there, i thought i was intercepting all the way back at COPRA at 3000ft, i had assumed the beginning of the arrow was the intercept, but i now see that the X is

[trim harbor]

GS intcp 1500ft

This is why I just set the MCP alt to 0 when flying offline

[shadow burrow]

Pretty much. You shouldn't expect a glide slope before that. You must step down to 1500. If you manage to capture then your fine

[hollow oracle]

big update to the 777-300ER

question, what flight numbers do airlines use for delivery flights?

considering its empty and not a regularly scheduled flight, i dont really know how that works with flight plans

huh, atleast with simbrief, its not required to have either an airline ICAO or flight number in a plan

[hollow oracle]

that KPAE addon is fucking incredible

that 777 gets towed from the factory floor building, to the paint hangar

[shadow burrow]

That’s fairly standard for Boeing FMC’s

At least 75,76,77

[hollow oracle]

in their 737s its different, you just hit the rte uplink, and then execute

[shadow burrow]

Thats wrong tho?

You either input the route manually then press activate and execute or you co-route/acars uplink then execute

Oh

Ignore me

[hollow oracle]

I’m talking about in-sim

I don’t mind inaccuracies in the sake of convenience

[shadow burrow]

nah I just can't read

[alpine coral]

Yeah, I realized the same thing
Lol

[trim harbor]

Depends on the airline

Some use a 5 and them 3 numbers

Others a number 9 and them 3 numbers

[glass totem]

Are they bad cuz i own the 318,319 and 321 neo

[reef isle]

sorry?

[glass totem]

Honestly no clue what my phone wants to say anymore

[reef isle]

fair enough

[glass totem]

Was typing it with my dog in my other hand

[reef isle]

Oh I see now, I don't think they're too bad, they're just very mediocre, they're not much better than the default planes, I just know NoOne and LewdNekos and I know that we usually spend our time in ""better"" aircraft, but I don't think there's anything particularly bad about them, IMO they're a bit overpriced, I wouldn't pay more than 10/15€ for one of them, but as long as you enjoy them it's fine

[rustic charm]

What I heard about the whole LVFR fleet is it's basically the default Asobo A320 inside

So like, they're not bad I guess, they're "default quality" I'd say

[reef isle]

To be fair to them, they have introduced some of their own quality of life improvements (like the EFB), and you can merge the FBW systems in at least part of their fleet, so it's not too bad

[rustic charm]

I honestly think if LVFR started later and did all the stuff they have but basing it off ini's 320, it would be even kinda good?

Cause like, I heard ini's 320 is a nice middle between the default and the performance-heavy Fenix

And even not looking at it as a nice middle, I quite doubt Fenix are ever gonna do an A318, mostly because why

[trim harbor]

i actually really like the ini a320

it feels heavy to fly

not light

which is a welcome change

[wide zenith]

escorted by a tug

auto cruise is a neat feature, done this in about half the time it would have taken irl which makes these longer flights a lot more accessible now

6 hour flight turned into a 2-3 hour

[shadow burrow]

Random ones

Landing at Manchester is a bit of a challenge. Good thing I'm a good pilot

[rustic charm]

Seems like a regular landing more or less regular landing, but done quite fine

[shadow burrow]

Pretty stronger crossing and then again Manchester has a mountain range of a runway

[spare coral]

does BeamNG count as a flight sim, cus, you see, there are plane mods, and a few maps have airports...

[rustic charm]

Uhh, I doubt xD

[spare coral]

thats unfortunate

[rustic charm]

BeamNG has a thread too though, just a different one

[spare coral]

yeah I know

[shadow burrow]

I wish BeamNG had more planes. The AN-12B is probably the best addon in the game.

[hollow oracle]

okay, i think im done with the 777

2nd try at landing at miami, didnt get on the ILS AGAIN

i was at 1500 this time, i had APP turned on, VNAV and LNAV

i did everything that i normally do in the landing of the 737

[trim harbor]

it captured the loc but not gs

lol

thats weird

[hollow oracle]

im usin the BMworld and amsim KMIA

i said fuck it and landed it myself too

[hollow oracle]

for the record this ended up being a successful landing too

[tired pond]

Try next time only arming loc first and then app as if I remember you have to do that with the 777

[trim harbor]

paralell taxi looks cool ngl

[glass totem]

It’s hurricane chasing time

[hollow oracle]

im going to assume its hte airport because i cant figure out why i cant get the glideslope even though i have the localizer

unless if theres some specific setting or procedure in the aircraft or something that im not realizing

but i cant imagine its much different than the 737 though

[rustic charm]

Some airports may be like that

Failed a flight earlier today because ILS was wrong at Wrangell

Couldn’t catch the glideslope, even though I did everything according to the LOC/DME chart for the airport

And the localizer might be wrong there too, but I’m not sure

I am sure it’s wrong at Sitka though, it leads you to the side of the runway into the water. But at least glideslope was working there

[alpine coral]

Round two of flying towards a Convective SIGMET
This time the conditions showed up in the sim

[glass totem]

Didn’t end well

[shadow burrow]

Skill issue

[shadow burrow]

How much wanna bet the ILS Freq wasn't in there

[hollow oracle]

i dont know how to check where the ILS frequency is in the 777

i know where it is in the 737

[shadow burrow]

Press INIT PERF where you put your VREF speeds in. It should be on the left

Of not it's RAD NAV

Or COMM

You gotta babysit the 777 it's not like the 737. It won't go on the glide slope of its more than 3⁰ of pitch to get to. Which is funny because some glide slopes are more than that

And unlike the 737 where you can enter on an angle you can't in the 777

You got to be facing it unless it will say fuck you

Happened to me today doing an Aeroflot flight from UUEE to KJFK

[hollow oracle]

thats just boeing quality right there

[shadow burrow]

To be fair most planes in this size range are like this

I hear the A380 can be a pain in the arse to capture ILS sometimes

[rustic charm]

It's the MD-11 day today

I honestly really don't know which one I want more, the MD or the 777 xD

[trim harbor]

777 for variety and huge usage

Md because it‘s a classic

[rustic charm]

Yup

Tough choice

I’ll get both eventually

[tired pond]

I will definetly think about the MD

[rustic charm]

And there's a 727 coming rather soon as well... July's a nice month I guess

I think there should be a 707 popping up too sometime now, doubt it's gonna be much awesome, but it is what it is

Actually yeah, that one should also be releasing today apparently

[trim harbor]

oh i wish for a 707

[rustic charm]

Well there is one releasing today it seems, but it's gonna be bad

One of the "Famous Flyers"

[trim harbor]

oh wait rlly

[rustic charm]

Yeah

At least it was said to be releasing today

[trim harbor]

msfs crashing must be one of the most painful things ever

right as i was about to pb

[reef isle]

hope I can make it before the plane releases 🤞

[trim harbor]

whens it due anyway

[reef isle]

today

sometime

[trim harbor]

ohboy

pmdg fiasco all over again

[reef isle]

why?

[trim harbor]

no set time makes people quite mad

refrehsing page all the time etc

i understand to why its better not having a set release time but i still think it'd be better

they pushed the release repo yesterday

[reef isle]

yeah, well it's just a matter of checking the installer if you want it the second it's available

[trim harbor]

u prebought and preloaded it right

[reef isle]

yep

[trim harbor]

oh yeah then it doesnt really concern u

idk how that works

[reef isle]

oh you mean for the people that didn't pre order

yeah that sucks

[trim harbor]

ye

do u just have to press a button to activate it?

\

[reef isle]

pretty much, I'll have to run the installer, and if there's an update it will show up there