Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[reef isle]

Just fly the Mi24. No need to be accurate with the 30mm

[echo gorge]

I've looked a little, probably should check them out a bit more.

[dusty sky]

X plane?

[echo gorge]

Msfs

[wide zenith]

did y’all see the winwing airbus fcu

[dusty sky]

I have X-plane 11 and msfs

[merry mason]

Once I tried using my loadcell pedals as makeshift rudder pedals after removing the springs from the brake and that was certainly a not so fun 5 minutes before I quit and went back to using the twist

[reef isle]

If I flew Airbus I would have bought it already

Seems like much better value than the miniFCU thingy

[wide zenith]

defo, I think its properly sized too

[reef isle]

Yeah, I think it's worth a look. Can't go wrong with the 16000 either, so much better than the X56 and not much more expensive, but if you want to look at higher end stuff then WinWing or Virpil is the way to go. just avoid the TM Warthog

[wide zenith]

if I had space i’d pick it up

Whats up with the warthog?

curious

[reef isle]

It's not much cheaper than WinWing and Virpil stuff but it has a terrible mechanism in comparison

If you spend just a bit more you gen an infinitely better product

[wide zenith]

ah okay interesting, i’ll keep that in mind

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-money-ha-danny-devito-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-15954739

I got desk mounts for them too, so they’re not sitting on my desk and blocking my monitor and stuff

[trim harbor]

holy smokes its $320

i didnt know it was that expensive

[hollow oracle]

That’s the captains pack, it comes with the speed brake and flaps extras

There’s another version that has just the throttles and side stick that’s $200

[agile oak]

I tried the A330 on P3D and it needs more than 20FPS for it's FBW to work which is bullshit\

[hollow oracle]

There’s the one freeware A330-900in MSFS that’s really good

not exactly 100% accurate, but it is an A330

[wide zenith]

https://a330.aerosoft.com/ new lil update

fwiw 😅

[dusky leaf]

The TM Warthog is overpriced rubbish. Hated it since the day I got it.

[trim harbor]

huh rlly

i found it nice honestly

[reef isle]

[trim harbor]

what in the cursed am i seeing

[reef isle]

just a normal formation eheh

[agile oak]

Aeroshit A330

[echo gorge]

An AWACS and its escorts

[merry mason]

All Airbus cockpits are the bloody same anyway so it’s probably accurate enough

[agile oak]

Except the A350*

[merry mason]

Doesn’t count lmao

U know what I meant

Reject modernity, return to CRTs and steam gauges

[agile oak]

A300/A310 then

[merry mason]

Early 744 >

[rustic charm]

There’s also a freeware A330-300 I think

Not sure how it’s in quality, don’t really fly airbuses

[agile oak]

True but

All of em are great

[merry mason]

Agreed

I wanna install MSFS again for A300 cargo ops

But idk if the inibuilds has the retrofit cockpits or if they went for as delivered

[trim harbor]

Crt a320 w the old gpws sounds

One can dream tbh

[merry mason]

Hell yeah

[reef isle]

As delivered

[shadow burrow]

320, 330, 340 the only ones that resemble each other

That’s before even talking about the old CRT display variants

[merry mason]

That’s what I meant the freeware 330 uses the FBW A320 neo cockpit afaik, pretty sure it’s similar to the 330?

[merry mason]

Ah well, still will probably try it

[shadow burrow]

330neo

320

330 displays are larger, the console is wider and the outer frame is a different shape

[reef isle]

biggest difference is the overhead

[shadow burrow]

Yes

[reef isle]

because the systems are quite different

also some of the FBW logic is different, so should be the flight model on the ones in the sim (obviously)

[shadow burrow]

ETOPS requires better hydraulic systems

Or well

It did

[reef isle]

I honestly think they can leave the console alone as long as they do the overhead and FBW

it's similar enough to not be really noticeable, but it would be a nice to have

[shadow burrow]

I don’t think so honestly

Console is just that different

Extra Radios, wider spacing

If you get the 320 console and 330 overhead your gonna run into the issue of the overhead being too big

[reef isle]

fair enough. It's probably just me not really caring too much about the modern airbuses so they all look very similar to me

even with the two pictures you sent I have to stare at them for a while to find the differences 😅

[shadow burrow]

Oh yeah

They are very similar

But once you see the differences you can tell the difference

Funnily enough the only reason I know the console is so wide is because for some odd reason BA have a 330 Simulator in there Heathrow training centre

It’s wide as fuck

Has “american” sized seats as well

[untold finch]

warbirds i'd say as well, especially the dang Bf 109

it's bad enough having to sit with one leg tensed the whole flight, wouldn't want to have to do it with my wrist

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwd1K65b3yQ

also new AIRAC day

[echo gorge]

I hate it so much, it looks so good but is a plane I have practically 0 interest in

[untold finch]

it's bizarre looking, absolute cone of a plane

and it's not like we're short of cool twin props at this point

idk though, i like Black Square stuff

[echo gorge]

I really like their TBM and really wish it had the duke's features (most specifically the boris sounds)

[rustic charm]

I gotta say it looks great

Only I’m pretty much not interested in such stuff at all

Just a kind of plane I don’t think I would fly in MSFS

Would love to fly one in reality. In MSFS? I’ll stick to airliners, because I can

[echo gorge]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/8a53b9baafb8473116ad05970cd8a761/

some news about the 29

seems it won't have iff in early access, which is certainly a choice

and this is the early access afghanistan map

[wide zenith]

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-update-15-beta-release-notes-1-37-9-0-march-22nd-2024/635165

ini neo out

[untold finch]

can only hope that they mean it won't get one of the fancier IFF interpretations that, say, Razbam and Aerges are doing at launch, it'll just include the standard base game "simple IFF" mode

but this is ED we're talking about so for all I know they'll launch it without a key feature at launch

[untold finch]

Yeah, had a few discussions about this on other discords; it's certainly a choice

probably the side of afghanistan nobody really wanted other than Brits like me (Camp Bastion yay)

[wide zenith]

dublin

[reef isle]

Ugh

[reef isle]

Yay... More desert

[trim harbor]

that seems to be a trend

with EA aircraft

i'm inclined to know the reason

or interested rather

[echo gorge]

it's quite frustrating, especcially for a genuinely BVR capable plane like the 29

[trim harbor]

now which is better

ini a320 or fbw a320

[wide zenith]

ini neo probably

[trim harbor]

instead of a 321 neo or something

[reef isle]

I'd guess FBW for everything but the 3D model

[shadow burrow]

Do the whole lot like aerosoft

318, 319, 320, 321

[trim harbor]

in like 20 years probably

[shadow burrow]

I’m waiting for the Toliss A318 haha

[trim harbor]

whats the 2 secret projects from toliss \

isnt one an a350

what's the other

[shadow burrow]

Yeah one is FF/Toliss 350 V2

I think the 2nd one is A330

But I’m not sure

Would be cool to see 332 and 333 in one addon

[trim harbor]

hot take but

the normal a330 isnt that bad

[hollow oracle]

Aer dingus

[wide zenith]

Their boarding music goes hard tho

https://youtu.be/j9T59WvLF1U?si=MuEN0ojnnKnTHlzo

[hollow oracle]

thats me, i am the merry ploughboy

[wide zenith]

the merry ploughboys

[shadow burrow]

Nah it’s not, if it weren’t for the static FMS it would be excellent

It’s a single system rather than 2 individual ones

Flight model and just generally could be better tho

The external model is also slightly vexing

[trim harbor]

the flights i did with it were fine

i agree with your points very much

i also feel li ke theres no ins or whatever

[untold finch]

i'd be surprised, the FBW neo has tonnes of cool features

KCLT -> KGSP... I'm amazed that this flight is real, I think it'd legit take longer to go through all the airport security stuff, board the plane, fly the half-hour route and then deboard than it'd take to just drive the 75 miles

Had to test out the new Boris sounds though 😎 so good

Looks like we're getting inibuilds London Luton

[wide zenith]

They seem to be pretty onpar feature wise, although FBW does have some cool stuff with simbridge

why couldn't ini have done the PW's tho smh

[wide zenith]

Excited for this

[shadow burrow]

This should be a burned husk

[untold finch]

I don't like Luton either but that's a bit far 😉

but yeah, i imagine they modelled it before the fire, and i guess it will probably be rebuilt?

[trim harbor]

why couldnt ini have done anything but a a320 neo

[wide zenith]

real

[tired pond]

microsoft money tbh

[trim harbor]

still tho 😭

[untold finch]

i imagine they wanted to un-crud the base game one

I imagine the base game one won't make it into FS2024

will be curious to see whether all the existing aircraft do, especially the premium deluxe ones

[wide zenith]

lin gussy

[agile oak]

That staredown though

[trim harbor]

convoy

[shadow burrow]

Nah they could actually do something quite cool with it

[hollow oracle]

so pissed

i was trying to get this air lingus flight in the air for 4-5 hours now, and only just now did i get to taxiing after bugs

only to find out that runway 28R in dublin was just finished a few months ago, but it hasnt been updated in-game

so im trying to take off from a runway that isnt finished and has no taxiway

heres me trying to figure out why theres no runway

[hollow oracle]

it was finished almost 2 fucking years ago and its still not in-game, you have to be joking

this is like the 4th or 5th time ive had to restart this flight, and not once have i been able to even get onto this damn runway 28R

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/2022/08/24/dublin-airport-s-north-runway-(10l-28r)-opens-on-time-and-on-budget

[echo gorge]

The default airports haven't been updated to incorporate layout changes since the launch of the sim

[hollow oracle]

wow

youd think, even just layout changes for major international airports would be worth incorporating

how hard could it even be to slap on a few more runways to a pre-existing airport?

[full plank]

scenery innit

default airports usually aren't flashy

[hollow oracle]

aer lingus is cursed or some shit, almost crashed at takeoff

i think i went too far one direction when steering during takeoff and swerved off the wet runway

[merry mason]

||Aer Dingus|| jk

[untold finch]

RKSI -> RJAA, probably my smoothest 747 landing yet, remembered to take the height into account this time

[agile oak]

hot

[reef isle]

Just seen the trailer, it has the KLN90B

that's interesting

[trim harbor]

great weather to fly in

[wide zenith]

got out of gatwick relatively stress free 😅

off to tenerife, time to go do human things and hope atc doesn't call me up

[hollow oracle]

Human or AI ATC

Because over the past few days I’ve been extremely frustrated with the AI ATC

[untold finch]

I play along with the AI one when it tells me to do something reasonable, and I ignore it when it doesn't 😄

[hollow oracle]

It’ll tell me to get to cruising altitude like 20 miles before the runway and I have to constantly hear “please expedite your climb to flight level 310”

[untold finch]

yeah that's when you ignore it

[hollow oracle]

I like how it’ll clear you up altitudes realistically though

[untold finch]

it was trying to tell me to climb back up to FL370 when I was at an @9000 STAR point

[hollow oracle]

I know, it’s like the plane won’t even let me get that high lmao

[wide zenith]

down in tenerife!

[wide zenith]

Human ATC, Vatsim

my goal for getting back into flight sim was learning how to properly communicate IFR and I just finished my first flight with all ATC

Ground + London centre then full top down canarias control into Tenerife

I haven't tried the ingame ATC, I never did with Xplane either

[tired pond]

I'm waiting for beyondatc myself

[trim harbor]

me as well

i cant wait

[wide zenith]

beyondATC?

[echo gorge]

some AI atc thing

[wide zenith]

o

I did briefly look into it, huge scope for a product for a simulator built for entertainment purposes

AI voice though 😔

[trim harbor]

anything over vatsim atp

rip poscon ✊

real ogs will remember that project

[wide zenith]

I remember that before I left the flight sim scene for a while

I'm guessing it never got off the ground

[hollow oracle]

Plane pun

[hollow oracle]

whats P3D like?

performance any better than MSFS? realism about the same?

im realizing that buying a $300 controller for a game that i average 20FPS in might not have been a good idea, im interested in trying out P3D if it means i can have a sort of middle ground between both sims

good performance, middle of the road graphics, and extreme operational realism is what would be ideal for me

[dusky leaf]

You could just turn the graphics down?

P3D to me always seemed like FSX wearing the emperors new clothes

[hollow oracle]

im on like medium graphics and still doing horrible

its a CPU issue more than anything

[dusky leaf]

Not so good. You should get better performance from fsx/p3d, but I wouldnt recommend either of them

[hollow oracle]

it just bothers me that i dont have a flight sim that i can actually fly realistically FPS-wise

MSFS lags so bad for me that the fenix A320 will basically fall out of the sky because autopilot cant function

[dusky leaf]

20 FPS isnt enough for flightsim, no

[hollow oracle]

i just dont know if i should go through the effort pursuing xplane or p3d, both are extremely expensive and i have no idea if itll even have any benefit

i have the aerosoft A3xx packs for FSX, but you need a physical throttle to use them, so i cant even use them, but i get really good FPS in FSX

[dusky leaf]

Not XP 12. absolutely great sim, but heavy on resources

Try the free demo and see

[hollow oracle]

honestly id be interested in getting the aerosoft stuff in FSX working, but i cant figure out how tf vjoy and stuff works

itll only respond to a throttle axis and not the buttons, so i need to find a way to create an axis thatll get progressively moved up/down with button presses, like how its done in MSFS

its not even like i need precise throttle control when flying a civil airliner anyway, you literally only need it to set it to autothrottle and then turn it off at landing

like, i have nothing against flying FSX, its not as clean as MSFS but as long as its as realistic im fine with it, its literally just the single issue of that throttle thats stopping me

i cant believe that im the only person having this issue, when i try to search it on google my reddit post from a few hours ago is the only to come up

https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/42579-keyboard-throttle-solution/

theres this, but i cant make sense of it, and it seems like the one file to get it to work isn’t available anymore

[full plank]

its an alright sim, but you need to post a bunch of money into scenery & aircraft

scenery that is pretty much outdated & doesn't get updates anymore

[echo gorge]

XP11 is worth a shot, give the demo and the zibo a go and see how it performs

[tired pond]

I wouldn't bother with p3d if you're new to it

[tired pond]

But xp is worth a shot, what is your spec btw?

[shadow burrow]

Depends

12 has very odd hardware requirements and can run like ass on a very good system

11 has more stuff and runs better but is limited with a lack of weather systems

Graphics on Both are good as is the amount of freeware stuff

Comparing them to P3D would be a mistake tho

P3D is old, doesn’t really work well and is a very easy sim to brick

It costs about 50% more than any addons for anything else

[reef isle]

fsx is not too bad if you don't mind the 2006 graphics

but the flight model definitely feels more on rails-y even compared with msfs

I'd personally give Xplane11 a shot (and in fact I did), and it' s good enough

[trim harbor]

snowy

[trim harbor]

smol airport

[hollow oracle]

AMD RX 570 8GB
16GB RAM (8x2)
Intel i5-6400 3.3GHz*
HP 2B47 Motherboard
2TB HDD + 500GB HDD
Windows 10 Home Edition

*Rated for 2.7, but idles around 3.0

the only thing in hesitant with on with xplane is that the only A320 worth getting is $80

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[trim harbor]

lol no

the a320 is super damn mid

get toliss a319, a320 neo, 321 neo and norm

those r good

toliss 346 is also nice

flyjsim q400 is nice as well

felis 747 is amazing

[hollow oracle]

i mean, thats not any better really, $70

i think i just really need to suck it up in MSFS honestly

[trim harbor]

quality wise, it is

[shadow burrow]

yeah

the toliss comes in a very close second to the FSLabs for 320 family aircraft

[trim harbor]

i agree

@shadow burrow whats ur perf on xp

[shadow burrow]

wdym?

[tired pond]

Yeah, your spec I don't think will run XP any better, best rather than spending money on more software to just save up for hardware

[dusky leaf]

Performance I believe they are asking? I get 40 - 60 Fps with everything pretty high on xp12

[wide zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9L8hKmI9VU&

[trim harbor]

it's a puzzle to me

i cant run xp12 at good fps

but msfs at 60

[shadow burrow]

flew the sparky into kennedy from heathrow and forgot about CTAF 😭

[hollow oracle]

crisis averted, i get like 30-38FPS in the FBW A320

the fenix one gives me like 20 from the external software running and everything

i did invest in the latinVFR airbusses too, because theres that horizon simulations mod that bases their systems off of the FBW A320neo

so i should be able to fly an A321/A320/A319 proper with the FBW A320neo performance

i managed to complete like 5-6 flights using the fenix A320 too, so im really bitching over nothing, next week ill be flying it again with no issues, its just my brain wants to hyperfixate on performance

[dusky leaf]

One of the biggest favours any flightsimmer can do themselves is to turn off the FPS display. Does it feel and look smooth to handfly? If yes its fine

[hollow oracle]

thats another thing, i get trapped staring at the FPS than i do actuallyplaying the game

the latinvfr airbusses are mid

good middle detail option for an a320ceo i guess, the internals are all based on the FBW A320 so it has some good realism atleast

its also the only real option for A318/A319/A321s too, so in that regard its pretty good atleast

[merry mason]

BASED

Miss them in ANA colors 😦

[trim harbor]

airdo has a nice livery tho

i love it

rainbow

[echo gorge]

https://stormbirds.blog/2024/03/24/eagle-dynamics-clarifies-mig-29-plans/ it's been clarified that it'll have a basic iff at launch

[trim harbor]

thank god

[trim harbor]

osakaa

[shadow burrow]

old BA was so cool man

flying EGLL-ORBI in a 742

we should bring this back

[dusky leaf]

I used to fly BA Virtual many years ago

[reef isle]

BA Landor and the Speedbird logo are some of the best pieces of the design in history

There isn't a plane on which it looks bad, also a thing me and a friend of mine noticed is that they adjusted the tail slightly to make it fit very nicely with the Trident and the L-1011

the way they modified it so that it properly follows the aicraft's lines is just amazing

[shadow burrow]

oh man don't even get me started

the UK had some of the best graphic designers of the 20th century

Glasgow Airport, BR, BA Negus/Landor, Barbican Centre

[reef isle]

Funnily enough the livery that the Italian railway used up until the late 2000s (and early 2010s) was made by a UK firm in the early 90s

[shadow burrow]

yeah the old FS logo doesn't really do it for me tho

[reef isle]

well they introduced the new one

https://www.stagniweb.it/ill5/loxm2.gif

[shadow burrow]

I like it

but eh

Looks really cool on the Turin water tower

oh man

I might make Baghdad in under 4h

[reef isle]

good luck 😄

[trim harbor]

dont do sunset depatures enough

[wide zenith]

pretty golden hour

[hollow oracle]

UPS decided to wait 6 extra hours to deliver it, but its finally here

if your looking at buying it, absolutely buy atleast the throttle, because the throttle on the joystick is completely useless

it has no detents, but includes a space for reverse thrust, so you could just go to idle and accidentally slip into reverse

the physical throttle has the proper springloaded locks that stop you from going straight into reverse

[merry mason]

Nice mousepad

How does the throttle feel in hand, well built or kinda cheapish? As far as cheap plastics would go anyway? One gripe I had about the TWCS was that it felt too light and bc of that felt sorta cheap idk

[trim harbor]

tokyo

[rustic charm]

Ngl wanna buy the thing so much

Only issue, I don’t actually fly airbuses

[crisp adder]

I sold my old, janky TM stick and bought the VKB Sim Gladiator. Wouldn't ever want to go back, Thrustmaster is proper trash. Though the Airbus throttle quadrant at least looks nice.

[reef isle]

New 146 update should be out next week with the new FMC, Cabin and other fixes

https://community.justflight.com/topic/3387/update-change-logs-v0-1-10-released-edited-26-3-24

@echo gorge

[merry mason]

Idk if I’d say trash, they’re pretty decent quality for lower end gear at the price

Their simracing gear is pretty solid, the belt driven stuff is still better than the plastic gear driven crap that Logitech puts out and afaik there isn’t another flight stick on the market at the same price range

[crisp adder]

Their main strength is the availability and price. You can walk into most electronics stores and find their gear there. E.g. you could buy their Airbus stick for 50 bucks right now on sale.

But to be honest, the difference between TM entry grade gear and one "tier" up (e.g. VKB for flight sims or Monza/Fanatec for sim racing) is worlds apart. I'd much rather spend a bit more and buy the better gear nowadays. Not only will it last longer (lower price means corners cut when it comes to quality) but the experience is way better.

[echo gorge]

Awesome

[wide zenith]

Anyone here use FSRealistic? Its on sale on just flight and was wondering if its any good

[trim harbor]

i like using it

it's a must have just for the headshake im

o

the sounds it has are nice as well

[wide zenith]

annoying how headshake isnt auto built into msfs, thats sorta my reasoning for wanting it

[rustic cedar]

now this cool af

[shadow burrow]

Just for MSFS?

[reef isle]

Yes

[shadow burrow]

Fucks sake

[reef isle]

Just Flight has said multiple times on their forum that they have more or less shifted all their efforts to MSFS, because that's the bigges and most profitable market by a wide margin

[shadow burrow]

been caught out by CTAF twice haha

keep forgetting its a thing in the states

[trim harbor]

interesting livery lol\

[trim harbor]

350 landing next to me \

[rustic charm]

There’s an A350 in msfs?

[shadow burrow]

no

[trim harbor]

ai traffic

[rustic charm]

Ah, understandable

[shadow burrow]

check your volanta

i guessed naha

[trim harbor]

accepted

[trim harbor]

yes correct

[trim harbor]

im just gonna leave this here 💀

[shadow burrow]

haha

[reef isle]

[trim harbor]

busy

[trim harbor]

interesting parking position

[full plank]

done fuck all with flight sims recently

[merry mason]

85AN

[merry mason]

Itami moment

[hollow oracle]

the waffle house of the sky

[trim harbor]

funky airport

beautiful approach thooo

[agile oak]

cute

[untold finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBRG-UMngSg

Full GSX support is an unexpected bonus

[untold finch]

Eagle Dynamics have lost the plot

Who is asking for this

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErZjNnkWeA

[trim harbor]

how flyable is it

[reef isle]

I don't mind

As long as the whole map isn't more expensive than usual

[wide zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/all-the-money-just-poof-chrisley-knows-best-waste-of-money-its-just-a-waste-of-money-that-money-just-vanished-gif-21713162

ini sale this weekend lol

[trim harbor]

https://youtu.be/ff8H7PF0lG0?si=zDv2nAqRMsnvzZX_

ngl it looks nice

it'll be worth it just because afghanistan imo

it's the standard price for terrain so meh

[mortal furnace]

Yea buy the whole HD map or you can have a basic map with HD sections. Reminds me of MFS

[lethal jasper]

Thats not even a Heavy gate

[reef isle]

yay! Got the Beluga for 9.99

Thanks for telling me to wait a few weeks ago 😄

[untold finch]

Very, had no issues with it at all today

[hollow oracle]

-500fpm landing, but i think thats about par for the course for easyjet

[wide zenith]

🧡 EZY

[wide zenith]

weather was windy today so blame it on that

[trim harbor]

i've been thinking of flying it again

i'll give it a shot

i still struggle w keeping speed @ cruise though

it has no athr and i have no clue what the right thorttle pos is

[untold finch]

it has an acceleration/deceleration guide on the speed tape

you just adjust the throttle until that guide disappears

and check it every so often

[reef isle]

🐳

[hollow oracle]

Is that xplane?

[reef isle]

Yes, Xplane11

Almost completely stock in terms of scenery and graphics

[hollow oracle]

I want a beluga in MSFS so bad

[reef isle]

There were quite a few planes I couldn't wait for in MSFS, so I got Xplane

And now there are a few planes I really like but only exist for P3D/FSX.

Trident, BAC 1-11, and most importantly L-1011

At least the Mercure is coming for MSFS

[lethal jasper]

Tokyo is so beautiful on a 34R departure

[dusky leaf]

Anyone tried this PC12 ?https://simworksstudios.com/pc12-legacy-msfs.html

[untold finch]

Yep, it's pretty good

It's about to get a fairly decent update alongside SU15 as well

EGGW (because why wouldn't I buy another inibuilds airport) -> EGAA

[echo gorge]

yeah, it's quite decent. That said I didn't end up enjoying it as much as I hoped, can't point to any specific issue and maybe it was just overhyped

[untold finch]

I think it just came into a flooded market, what with the TBM 850 and M500 having come out just beforehand

[dusky leaf]

Chances of a decent PC12 for XP are slim, so going to get that one.

[untold finch]

CowanSim has put out an R-22, that's my weekend sorted

[untold finch]

Just recreated my first (and so far only) real helicopter lesson

[crisp adder]

https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/22186-inibuilds-a300-600r-airliner-for-msfs-v110-released/?_kx=t-ejZvaL-vty3r4StNczjkLOGxOWDhf94R7vkWw55KE.RAJcpk

[untold finch]

Looking forward to it

Great time for updates with this and the 146

[reef isle]

Getting ready for the short hop from Hamburg to Bremen 😄

[untold finch]

I can't say my experience with the A300 is any better post-patch than it has been before.

I dunno if they've messed up the fuel consumption but I followed the figures Simbrief gave me and it ran out of fuel about 2 miles from the end of the runway I was trying to land on.

That or the simbrief fuel loading is borked.

[echo gorge]

that's uh, not great

[reef isle]

the one in msfs?

[untold finch]

Yep

First load bugged out too, the ALIGN IRS option was missing

[hollow oracle]

That’s just par for the course when it comes to inibuilds it seems

The autopilot just does what it wants, fuel calculations are all wrong

[hollow oracle]

I can’t install MSFS on my laptop, the installer crashes at random points and then restarts progress completely

[untold finch]

I think the A300 is genuinely the buggiest MSFS product I've flown so far honestly. Not really expecting their A380 to be a great experience.

[untold finch]

lmao, take two in the A300, I deleted a hold from the FMS and it locked up the whole aircraft, nothing responding, etc

Could only hand fly it with no instruments working

If you're still on the fence about buying it... avoid, avoid, avoid.

[tired pond]

Rip

[rustic charm]

I just hope they fix the thing

[untold finch]

Me too, I legit think it's a really nice aircraft with great modelling, sounds, etc, it's just buggy to the point of being unable to complete short flights in 2 out of 2 attempts now.

If they can fix that it'll be top notch

[reef isle]

Eh. I'd just wait for the A300B4

Hopefully they release it before the heath death of the universe

[hollow oracle]

its really convenient that its "boeing", because thats the sound they make when they collide with the ground after nosediving from the MCAS system

[agile oak]

lmfao

[merry mason]

Is that a functional BCF or just a repaint of the normal 800?

[lethal jasper]

looks like PMDG's

[untold finch]

The PMDG 800 has a functional BCF variant, as well as a BDSF and BBJ2

[merry mason]

wtf how did I never notice that, I own it

guess it's time to reinstall MSFS

[rustic charm]

I always knew it but never flown either

Don’t have any liveries installed either

[hollow oracle]

It’s a proper BCF

The default B738 freight liveries are all European though, I didn’t realize until I took off that I was flying one operated by west Atlantic

The cargo doors and everything opens, with a proper pallet loader and everything, but it’s not animated and the inside always shows up as loaded

[crisp adder]

Couple of screenshots from the flights I did during a very lazy Easter weekend. I also just installed FSLTL, which is fantastic.

[untold finch]

CYYZ -> KMSP

[untold finch]

Yeah, it's really nice to see real world traffic flying about

I've started flying with A Pilot's Life 2, really makes you fly to airports you might not have considered before

[trim harbor]

wakkanai is a nice landing during sunset

[rustic charm]

That gotta be both quite fun and challenging

Introducing some variation might work well for me…

• Boston to JFK (or back)
• LA to San Francisco (or back)
• LA to San Diego (or back)
• St. Petersburg to Moscow (no back, only wanna go away from that city)

[untold finch]

It's given me as my schedule...
KMSP -> CYYZ and back
KMSP -> KPIT and back
KMSP -> KSTL and back
KMSP -> KCVG and back
KMSP -> KJFK and back

I bought the CRJ type rating (ingame currency) and got offered a virtual job at Endeavor

you get rated on your flying too, the better you fly the more XP you earn and the higher your pilot rating (averaged over the last 20 flights iirc?) gets
a high pilot rating means better job offers

I got something like 93/100 on the first flight (lost 7 points due to uncomfortable bank angle because I forgot to turn on half-bank) and 100/100 on the second one today

[rustic charm]

I’d get 50 at most

[untold finch]

It's not too hard honestly, just average airline things

[rustic charm]

What’s wrong with 30° bank angle though

[untold finch]

passengers/cargo don't enjoy it

[rustic charm]

Well I don’t ask them to

[untold finch]

here's the full list

it's mostly just procedural stuff like remembering when to turn lights on and off

[rustic charm]

But honestly I pretty much never set bank angle, it’s on 30 by default in the 737 and I just keep it there

[untold finch]

you're allowed up to 35 i think

yeah

the CRJ will happily exceed that if you let it though

[rustic charm]

No idea when to turn lights

Guess I haven’t played MSFS enough yet to truly know this stuff

[untold finch]

i honestly don't know where i learned it

general forum reading and youtube i guess

the operator's manuals for each aircraft (the real ones) are usually good sources of info too, the A320 one was an interesting read

[echo gorge]

The DHL one is american

Iaero iirc

[merry mason]

I think all of fedex's BCFs are opf european airlines yeah, I was interested in it for shandong airlines who have a couple (?) BCFs running between Qingdao and Centrair

shame about the lack of animations though

did a repaint of one for an ATC4 scenario a while ago, looks so out of place next to everything else on their cargo ramp

[full plank]

nah fucking hell, definitely will be taking some time off work to get MSFS running again

oh fuck sakes, can't post the RSR sticker

oh well

[crisp adder]

I love those small Japanese regional airports. And the best thing is, they´re incredibly well done AND free. 😄

FSLTL is really good. During my last start-up at EDDF I spent a couple of minutes watching traffic. Very moody, especially as it got dark.

A Pilots Life 2 sounds interesting, I might give it a look. Currently I mostly fly in Central Europe and Japan because I own more airport DLCs there. But some variation might be neat.

[reef isle]

Really? I feel like most flights I've taken used 30° bank and I never felt anything wrong or uncomfortable?

Ah, +/-35 sounds more reasonable

[untold finch]

Yeah, I got the limit wrong initially

[reef isle]

Sorry, I probably should read all the messages before writing 😅

[hollow oracle]

I forgot how fun it is to install MSFS

[tired pond]

Feel for people who bought it on cd

[rustic charm]

Those poor poor souls

[untold finch]

KTCM -> KSUU. Not bad at all for freeware.

[trim harbor]

does it have a working fmc

[untold finch]

Partially!

[trim harbor]

oh shit yo

[untold finch]

It's got custom logic, it's not fully done yet but the autopilot works

[trim harbor]

i've been waiting for a military transporter that can fly a-b

[untold finch]

The sounds are very, very loud though, hope they fix that

[untold finch]

https://azurpolygroup.com/c-160-transall/
This is arguably "better" though of course has much less range

[trim harbor]

oh ye i like the transall fors ure

but i'd love me a c17/c5 more

what i really crave for is a e-3 tho

yum

[untold finch]

i too like flying in circles for hours

[trim harbor]

nahnah but fly it like rammstein to some airbase in us

or afghan

[untold finch]

oh i prefer more exclusive airbases for that sort of thing 😎

That's another roundtrip i need to keep working on, currently got as far as Keflavik with it

going on a tour of places they've visited IRL

Norway is the next one, they recently stopped there for a hot refuel
Followed by Fairford, then Diego Garcia, Guam, Hawaii and back home again I think

[hollow oracle]

c-17 my beloved

the only good boeing product

youll never understand the true scale of them until your under the engines of one, the vertical stabilizer has to be almost 4-5 stories tall

[echo gorge]

Banned

[hollow oracle]

anything you could think of fitting inside will fit inside, its no joke that they can transport full size helicopters in them, with room to spare

[echo gorge]

727 is

C-17's a MD design anyway, the only truly MD design in their existence in fact

[hollow oracle]

thats why its the best boeing product, its not even boeing

the MD-11 is my second favorite boeing product, but that doesnt even count as boeing because it literally has mcdonell douglas in the name

the warning sounds in the MD-11 are just

[echo gorge]

Well it's a DC design anyway not even a truly MD plane

[hollow oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK5K9pJo67w

[merry mason]

Just casually forgetting the existence of the 747

[hollow oracle]

yes, because the A380 is just better in every way

[merry mason]

Excuse me

How

Those same A380s that are now being retired and scrapped because they have no second purpose?

[hollow oracle]

full double decker

boeing only managed to half-ass 1 1/2 levels

[merry mason]

The same A380s that were more than late to the punch and too big to fit in most places, with zero plan for what they’d be used for post passenger service?

Lol

I like the A380 but

Saying the 747 wasn’t a good Boeing product is certainly an opinion

[hollow oracle]

i mean, there is no good (true) boeing product

[shadow burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/231504969172254720/1201520630638596096/attachment.gif?=

incorrect assessment, banished to OOM land

[echo gorge]

NGC keeps forgetting god's gift to mankind, the one and only 7 2 7

Every day we stray further from its perfection

[merry mason]

The 727 is cool, but in my eyes it’ll never be as cool as this

[echo gorge]

Fair, wrong but fair

[merry mason]

Thems fightin words

[rustic charm]

You take that back!!

[reef isle]

While I'm not the one to dispute the 727's qualities, When we speak of absolute perfection, have you considered this?

https://live.staticflickr.com/2411/3535168432_2b7426a188_b.jpg

[trim harbor]

Trijets hot

We need so much more classic airliners

[shadow burrow]

If only MW was still around

promised updates to his L1011 and DC8

[shadow burrow]

been flying nothing but the ERJ series today and yesterday but I made a purchase

https://store.x-plane.org/CRJ-700_p_1520.html

[trim harbor]

what actually happend to him

[shadow burrow]

he died

[trim harbor]

wait

like

[shadow burrow]

the store removed his stuff

[trim harbor]

actually died?

[shadow burrow]

yeah, he was one of the first people to start working on XP addons

[trim harbor]

ye i know him and his stuff but i didnt know he died

i thought he just dipped

[shadow burrow]

nah

man was like 70

[trim harbor]

oh

that's quite sad

ngl

[untold finch]

Something is going down in DCS land.

Details are still a bit hazy but it sounds like ED hasn't been paying third parties.

And they've just pushed the patch back by a week because third parties have apparently downed tools to some extent.

[echo gorge]

Uh oh, hope it all ends up being nothing

[abstract mural]

Source to that?

[untold finch]

The razbam discord itself

strike eagle chat

[abstract mural]

Can you send me a message link?

[untold finch]

It's a little tricky to point to anything concrete, but this seems to sum it up - the guy who reacted is a Razbam dev: #544231925263630336 message

I was under the impression that ED were doing well financially, but given how often they have sales, maybe not. I can't imagine any other reason why they wouldn't pay up.

Never seen the community this "turbulent" though, and the devs aren't rushing to deny anything either.

[reef isle]

I still fly his L1011

I managed to get it in shady ways recently, and it's not too bad

I'd love to get the CS 1011 for FSX, but it's 40$

[mortal furnace]

3rd parties never pay ED where you get that info?

More than likely a bug cant be fixed so they push the patch back

@untold finch and that info given is most likely 100% wrong

Nobody knows

[untold finch]

What? No, ED pay the third parties, or are supposed to be.

[mortal furnace]

No they dont

[untold finch]

So when a third party module is sold on the DCS e-Store, who gets the money?

[reef isle]

If I buy a Razbam aircraft through the Eagle Dyanmics store, Eagle Dyanmics takes all of my money. and then should give a percentage to Razbam

just like it works with Youtube

and everything else

[mortal furnace]

Other way around 3rd party gets the profit ED get percent

[untold finch]

Right, but when you buy it from ED's webstore, the money goes into ED's bank account.

[reef isle]

Not if I go through the Eagle Dynamics store, my payments go to Eagle Dyanmics

[untold finch]

They then need to send the money to the third party dev.

Which, if the rumours are true, they have not been doing

[mortal furnace]

Most likely ED only get a small percent of any 3rd party profit otherwise 3rd parties would be pointless, Thats why id say heatblur sell there products on there own site taking 100% per sell?

[untold finch]

From what I know, they have to send some of that money to ED

As per their contract agreement

[mortal furnace]

Yea small amount most likely who knows how much

[reef isle]

I recently bought the F-86 made by third party developer Belsimtek, and according to paypal my payment went to Eagle Dynamics SA

[mortal furnace]

Rumours in dcs community are always blown out of perportion

[untold finch]

Belsimtek is ED now

[reef isle]

well, it's time to go back to when I bought the MiG-21 then

or the Mirage2000

[untold finch]

They're a weird edge case, they were originally ED, split off into a third party, and then re-merged

[mortal furnace]

@reef isle belsimtek is now ED company

[untold finch]

We don't really know the details of percentages, but if ED has not been sending third parties the money owed, then that's very bad

[mortal furnace]

They were once a 3rd party

They also did the F5?

Its probs a patch issue

[untold finch]

They did the F-86, MiG-15, F-5E, Mi-8, iirc

[mortal furnace]

Yea correct

[reef isle]

@mortal furnace MiG-21 is the same

Eagle Dynamics SA

[mortal furnace]

No

[reef isle]

So, should I loook at the Mirage 2000?

Or maybe the Tomact

[mortal furnace]

That was leatherneck until M3 and HB split

[untold finch]

He's saying the payment went to Eagle Dynamics

because all payments for DCS modules go to Eagle Dynamics unless you buy it from, say, Heatblur's website

[mortal furnace]

I dunno how it works

[untold finch]

or Steam, in which case it goes to Valve first

[mortal furnace]

Yes

[reef isle]

Payment for the Tomcat went to Eagle Dynamics SA

[mortal furnace]

Only percent

Dunno how much

[reef isle]

Payment for the MB339 went to Eagle Dynamics SA

[reef isle]

all of it

before they split

[mortal furnace]

Then maybe ED pays them the profit i dunno

[reef isle]

yeah that's what we were saying

[mortal furnace]

Im not there accountant

[untold finch]

Right, which is the point - if they haven't been doing that, which it sounds awfully like what Razbam have been hinting at, then there's a problem

[mortal furnace]

I just wouldnt believe everything thats read 🙂

[reef isle]

after they get all of my money, they should give a certain percentage of that money to the third party dev

[untold finch]

Why would Razbam staff lie though

Either way, we'll see in their "official statement" later

[mortal furnace]

Im not in there discord

Who actually put it?

Razbam themselves? Or a random?

[untold finch]

Several members of the Razbam dev team

It's entirely possible that it's all a nothingburger, but quite often there's no smoke without a fire, and they seem really quite aggrieved

[mortal furnace]

Id say a dispute nothingburger

[echo gorge]

I really hope the razbam folks are wrong but it's a pretty heavy accusation to make and I doubt they'd make it up

[reef isle]

Tomcaaaaaaaaaat 😄

[hollow oracle]

i think i accidentally killed flight sims for me

i was like big dick swinging, i was extremely confident on how to do an ILS landing and everything

and then i found out about VOR landings, and i feel crushed

i get the concept, but in practice i have no idea how to get the plane to do the concept

the only way i can describe it is as crushed, i feel like im a fraud and i had misplaced confidence in my abilities

[agile oak]

rip

[crisp adder]

MSFS or DCS?

[reef isle]

If your plane is able to create a VNAV path:

Descent in LNAV/VNAV until you can see the runway, or the MDA/MAPt, then disconnect the A/P and land manually, prepare to need to make larger corrections than with an ILS, if the weather is good, you can disconnect the autopilot earlier to make your life easier.

If your plane can't do VNAV path, but can fly with at a certain flight path angle (FPA):

Set VOR freq and course, capture the VOR radial/course using VOR/LOC mode, then, using the charts start descending with the correct flight path angle at the correct point.

If your plane can't fly a precise FPA:

Set VOR frequency and course, capture the VOR radial/course using VOR/LOC, fully configure the aircraft for landing before starting to descend, note your ground speed, and using the chart start descending at the correct Vertical Speed at the right distance. Round the vertical speed down to compensate for the time it takes the aircraft to start descending. When you see the runway you can only proceed with the landing if you see the runway early enough, and from a position where you can manoeuvre the aircraft to make a safe landing

Other visual approaches, like this one in Florence are just meant to get you close enough to the airport, once you have the airport in sight it essentially becomes a visual approach, you're free to manoeuvre in any way you see fit to make a safe landing

And, for the United States only, if you are cleared to a VOR approach, and you need to make a turn larger than 90 degrees to intercept the final approach course you need to do the procedure turn, so you overfly, fly outbound and turn around as described in the chart.

[hollow oracle]

I really need a video tutorial or something, I appreciate you typing that all out, but I really need a visual guide that I can rewatch and take notes on

[reef isle]

Fair enough, no problem, when I first started to write it I thought it would have been simpler and easier 😅 then I always thought of another thing to add ahah

[hollow oracle]

It seems like no approach is the same either, they’re all extremely different

Some have full curves, some are just simple courses direct to the runway, some have you cross over the airport and loop back in

I think what really gets me is the curves, like, how do I know im following the curve correctly?

What’s the deal with that compass VOR thing with the blue lines that I see people using too?

[reef isle]

Can you send an example or a timestamp of a video?

[untold finch]

MSFS, the Tomcat got a new update that I wanted to try

[echo gorge]

There's a bunch of good tutorials on YouTube aimed at irl student pilots

Also (because I'm evil) vors are nothing, wait till you get an ndb approach

Though I don't know of any 737 airports restricted to just that

[crisp adder]

Cheers! How do you like it? Worth getting? I'm currently in the mood for a military jet and the F-14 looks very tempting, though the Tornado might be a bit more interesting to me for personal reasons.

[untold finch]

It is definitely in the highest tier of fidelity for MSFS military stuff, alongside the Vulcan and perhaps the BAe Hawk. The Jester implementation is cool, I think it was ported quite smartly. The main downside is that the flight model is a lot tamer than the DCS one, feels more "on rails" because that's just how MSFS internal flight models are I guess.

It looks great (honestly, a bit better than it does in DCS, due to the better graphics engine) and sounds great too.

I mainly just whizz about California and Nevada in it but I'm sure it'd be cool to fly elsewhere too.

[reef isle]

Hawk is OK - I don't think it's much better than the IFE MB339, but it's a lot more expensive

The flight model is a bit strange

[crisp adder]

Thanks for your detailed impression! That's what I heard about it, too. It apparantly lacks a certain fidelity which in turn take away some of the challenges of flying the F-14 in real life. That's a bit of a shame and I wonder if the Tornado will have the same issues. On the other hand, if the systems are well made and it sounds and looks nice certain weaknesses in the flight model can be overlooked, I guess.

[untold finch]

Yeah, that's my one complaint too. Otherwise I really like it. The MB-339 is something I haven't touched in aaaages, shall have to revisit it.

[shadow burrow]

does it make me childish that this made me laugh?

7up

like the drink

I'll show myself out....

[untold finch]

146 update is out

[shadow burrow]

so nice to fly man

[untold finch]

Here's Razbam's statement on their DCS modules.

Really does sound like they're not being paid.

[echo gorge]

Yeah, that really doesn't look good

[shadow burrow]

I missed this message but there is an interesting fact about that hawk, its the same as the XP11 one just ported over with new textures. Here comes the fun part, JF ported over the weapons as well because they can but the weapons were from the actual sim not the addon so they had no right to do so. I think that basically sums up how cheap the MSFS port is

It was taken down very quickly as soon as they noticed from what I heard and reuploaded with there own weapons

the JF also comes with its own missiles, bombs and tanks as well its quite funny to think that they just copied the wrong 3d assets lmao

I do like that hawk tbh tho

fun to fly with TE GB

[untold finch]

The sounds were a strong point iirc

it's been a while since i last flew it

[shadow burrow]

its just nice

mil training jet so easy to fly and fly well

its well worth picking up for XP if you can get it cheap

[untold finch]

Oh, I already have it in MSFS, and it sounds like it's the same thing?

I do own XP11 but I haven't got it installed because MSFS has eaten all my disk space

[shadow burrow]

roughly

however the flight model is just so much better

[rustic charm]

Quick question about the JF's 146, is there any difference between the one sold on the website and the one on marketplace?

[untold finch]

I think the marketplace one just takes longer to update. I don't think there are any other differences?

[untold finch]

The DCS discord community is figuratively ablaze right now, I am in awe of the magnitude of this

[rustic charm]

That's good. I can wait in case what

[shadow burrow]

Butter in Basel

[echo gorge]

AFAIK only update speed

[rustic charm]

Nice

[rustic charm]

Alright, perfect then

I already bought the 146

[reef isle]

So happy I can finally do this, thanks Just Flight ❤️

[shadow burrow]

need to play oxygene https://youtu.be/kSIMVnPA994?si=0RwRr7T-cZibMVne

[alpine coral]

Great read

[abstract mural]

🍿

[trim harbor]

It‘s jover

F15 never got iff

Oofers

[echo gorge]

Worse, no mig23

[untold finch]

man
the BAe 146 update is not good for me
it's screwed the simbrief payload integration completely

[echo gorge]

Though honestly even worse is (if true) razbam not getting the payment they're due

[untold finch]

i've just spent the last hour trying to get it to load any actual payload

first the A300 gets fucked now this

https://tenor.com/view/claude-aftv-aftv-claude-im-tired-robbie-gif-27139764

honestly the just flight EFB is not great

time to break out ol reliable

[crisp adder]

This. For the costumers, it might mean no new digital planes to fly with, for the devs it means (if true), no income and a big financial mess potentially from essentially working for free . I thought about going back into DCS for a while but now I don´t feel like spending money on that game. Too shady right now.

[mortal furnace]

One of the razbam devs posted saying hes quit dcs completely not sure on the date of the message trying to find out, Looks like ED have shoved there own statement out to get back at razbam

F15E will end up like the hawk

[trim harbor]

Plsno

That would actually be quite tragic i cant lie

[mortal furnace]

Well only way to use it would be to roll back patches

[merry mason]

On today’s episode of “just pay people properly please thanks”

[abstract mural]

No. ED Made contracts so that this won't happen. F15E is ED's property if RB abandons it

[trim harbor]

Another module added to the 2 years without a patch problem!

Wooo

I doubt ED will prioritze the F15E at all for a while

They got plenty of stuff to work on beforehand

Like the goddamn supercarrier

[untold finch]

I have absolutely zero faith in ED's ability to maintain the Strike Eagle

I mean the radar is already leagues ahead of anything ED's managed to put together, they'd need to hire someone who could actually figure out how it works

[trim harbor]

Its not like i dont have faith

But dcs should fix up their damn basic systems first before maintaining other modules

AI, SC, Campaign is all more important

[reef isle]

It's fine for me

[reef isle]

Noooooo, Mirage 2000 is my favourite jet in DCS 😦

I'm going to think about backing up the current DCS version in case they screw it up in future updates

[untold finch]

yeah, i realised it was probably user error this morning

yesterday was definitely not the day to fly anything complex for me, think i was on coffee #5 by that point

[echo gorge]

Fair, we all have those days

[dusky leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664164027571896335/1224639564409208873/image.png?ex=661e3978&is=660bc478&hm=9ac414fc15fc9a52aee53e9a4185a6bf35ae5cfefdddcaee34f2f59f6fa84961&

[crisp adder]

Speaking of Simbrief, how do you actually load flight plans into the 146 FMC? I tested it during lunch break and failed, too.

[untold finch]

You have to export it to another folder in another format

https://community.justflight.com/topic/6121/simbrief-import/

simbrief downloader can automatically handle it for you

[crisp adder]

Ah, ok, thanks. I hoped there'd be a more convenient way like in the Fenix or the A300 where you can link the plane to your Simbrief account.

[untold finch]

Sadly not, that only populates the EFB as far as I can see

[untold finch]

https://old.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/1bw76cc/what_on_earth_is_razbam_and_ed_fighting_over/ky5doss/
Yeesh.

It was the Super Tucano all along.

[mortal furnace]

A nothingburger then

[untold finch]

If that's what you're taking from this then I'm quite surprised

It sounds awfully like ED are trying to coerce Razbam and are using their money as leverage to do so

Money that may or may not have already been spent on Nick Grey's warbird collection

[mortal furnace]

Who knows not my problem but ill be very cautious with parting with my money into dcs be it ED or 3rd party

[untold finch]

100% same here. I was going to buy the Kiowa, the Chinook, maybe Kola, etc. Now? I'm really, really hesitant.

And that's a shame because I'm sure the devs have put their love, sweat, tears, etc into these modules. I just don't want to take on the risk that they'll not even make it a full year before becoming abandonware.

[lethal jasper]

Poor Enigma servers ;-;

[untold finch]

Yeah, that's fair imo. You've got to draw the line somewhere for an initial release, otherwise scope creep will just keep pushing that release back.

[untold finch]

cba to fly tonight but had some fun doing some volanta admin, getting aircraft screenshots sorted

[reef isle]

Someone else that doesn't use real images for Volanta

❤️

[untold finch]

I don't get why people do that personally! You literally have a tool that lets you photograph the aircraft when/where/however you want but you'd rather take a photo from airliners.net? Fair enough I guess, not my thing though

[reef isle]

Yeah, and it's a network for flight simming

Not Flightradar

[dusky leaf]

The joys of dirt runways in a heli

Love the street names 😁

[hollow oracle]

Millions of peaches, peaches for me, millions of peaches, peaches for free

[trim harbor]

holding up with a su25 really was a challenge lool

[untold finch]

Doing some Air Serbia ops on APL2, using one of their GetJet leases.
LYBE -> LGAV

[reef isle]

RIP

If you want to know why I'm holding short there this is how it went

TWR: DLH918 ready for immediate crossing?
DLH918: Affirm
TWR: 918 clear to cross 10
...
TWR:DLH918, are you able to hold position?

[trim harbor]

how do you do descend w the bae

do you calculate it yourself or is there a t/d of some sort

[reef isle]

there is now

[trim harbor]

oh the uns has it

god bless

[neon juniper]

Recently got back into flight sims by getting MSFS in the spring sale, I still have to learn a few things here and there in the new sim but otherwise it's going good (well, apart from my current lack of free time and proper equipment :p)

[untold finch]

LYBE -> LEBL tonight. Barcelona is wild, crazy busy.

[trim harbor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/s/o5hJLA2yPR

[dusky leaf]

Perfect heli weather right?

[dusky leaf]

Those two were my previous hover attempts 😆

[dusky leaf]

Gave me a hankering to take this for a run

[dusky leaf]

Hawgs! ❤️

[hollow oracle]

All the nippons

[untold finch]

Back from LEBL -> LYBE.

[trim harbor]

Finally

[untold finch]

Vinyls?

Mine still haven't turned up yet

I have a funny feeling they're stuck in customs or something but i've had no notice to say that they have been

[trim harbor]

tshirt and vinyls ya

i didnt even get a tracking link or anything

it just showed up at my doorstep lol

[untold finch]

Don't feel like you have to answer, but are you in the UK?

[trim harbor]

nah germany

[untold finch]

ah, ok

[trim harbor]

i was worried it wouldnt show up at all tbf, the first folks started getting it two months ago

[untold finch]

iirc the heatblur team are posting them by hand by themselves so it's probably why it's taking so long

[trim harbor]

idk why it's so slow

[untold finch]

the first folks who started getting stuff didn't order the vinyls

[trim harbor]

ahhhh

[untold finch]

there was some delay with those specifically, apparently

[trim harbor]

weird

[untold finch]

just got to figure out a place to display mine now 😄

hopefully they arrive this week

[trim harbor]

yea i agree

tbf for that they should like send u an email saying 'it's shipped' atleast

it's quite irretating

[agile oak]

plen

[hollow oracle]

It’s kind of fucked up that southwest is the only other airline to offer island hop flights in Hawaii

The yeehaw, budget, Boeing-only airline

Hawaiian does island hops too, but in ancient 717s, and I think 1 with A321s

[shadow burrow]

Forgot to post these

Flew to Barra today

[reef isle]

should I do this during the CTP? 🤪

I'm tempted... but I guess the controllers are not going to be happy, especially because I'm going to have a mach 0.7 Vne, so separation from traffic could be interesting

[untold finch]

Seems like a bold choice

[reef isle]

Yeah I'll probably not do it, but I'll think about it

[untold finch]

Updates for both Ini's KLAX and A300-600R just dropped together 😎 don't mind if I do

seems like they've fixed the things I complained about

[shadow burrow]

Rothera Ops

god damn

Antartica4xp is really good

I should fly here more often

[untold finch]

One thing I like doing is looking up where a livery is based in real life then flying from there. This is Northwind Aviation's Bell 206 JetRanger that I've taken from their Chelan WA base to somewhere also in WA.

[untold finch]

That thing looks like awesome fun

[shadow burrow]

Its actually really good haha

quite difficult to fly because its so insanely responsive but my word

on a visual with a final speed of 60kts

once you get the hang of it its so much fun

especially with those massive tundra tyres

[shadow burrow]

AT01 - Heinz Expedition Base - Heinz Expedition Plateau - AT01

[trim harbor]

who made the twotter for xp

[shadow burrow]

RW Design

It's not amazing but once you can fly it it is really fun

Comes with both short and long nose versions with or without G1000's then Tundra, Std, Ski's and Floats

so you get pretty much everything

[untold finch]

Back to LYBE from LSZH. Just Copenhagen and Amsterdam left on the schedule.

[rustic charm]

Didn’t know 737s had the visor

[untold finch]

yep, it's not fitted to all of them i think but it's in the pmdg options

wish there were an easier way of figuring out what registrations have what equipment IRL

[alpine coral]

I find it pretty cool in VR

[untold finch]

100%

[hollow oracle]

AFAIK, the reskins in the PMDG operations center should have everything properly equipped

[untold finch]

Aye, if they have the "validated" tag iirc. Skins from fs.to are a mixed bag here though.

[rustic cedar]

hell yeee

[hollow oracle]

I’ll never get used to the fighter pilot HUDs in 737s, it’s like, wtf is a southwest plane gonna shoot down

[reef isle]

Is this a serious comment, or am I just not getting humor?

[hollow oracle]

im being funny by comparing it to a figher pilot HUD

[shadow burrow]

EGAR - SFAL - SUMU - SBRJ - SBSV - SBFN - GVAC - LEZL - EGTK

twotter flight back from Antarctica to the UK

really tempting me man haha

[hollow oracle]

Flight sims are the worst

Because it’s like, you think you know everything, and then you get humbled SO BAD on an aircraft you thought you knew extremely well, and you feel like giving up on flight sims entirely

For me it was VOR landings, and now it’s missed approaches

They don’t make any sense, and I haven’t gotten any help from anybody on how to do either

Tutorials don’t really help because each flight is significantly different

[shadow burrow]

This is heathrow 09L missed app, so the altitude you should set is 3000 on final so if you do need to go around then fly runway heading until at alt 1580ft or until DME 0.0, when both are achieved then turn left hdg 036 until ATC advises otherwise or if no ATC is online then verctor yourself back around

for this app you should hold with this pattern over the chiltern VOR or just vector back around towards the ILS again

Its always proc to set the missed app alt with the runway hdg as soon as your on the ILS or app

EDDF 07L app with a full missed approach route and instructions

Missed app alt is 5000ft and hdg is 066

charts are all you really need

they will give you all the info and if that isn't enough then just revector yourself

[untold finch]

New week, new airline. Said goodbye to Air Serbia ops and hello to some European cargo work with ASL Belgium...

[hollow oracle]

What was confusing me the most was the VOR stuff, but I watched a tutorial a few times over and I have a pretty good understanding of how that works now

I’m still a bit confused with a few VOR and RNAV approaches in the A320, but I do have a solid understanding of VOR flying now

[untold finch]

new Fenix update is out, and the A319/A321 expansion is looking imminent - £40 for the expansion including both is pretty good

[crisp adder]

Oh nice. The releaese of the expansion would be sooner than I expected. Can't wait, tbh.

[untold finch]

Yeah, it really opens up a lot of routes.

[shadow burrow]

having cats is so great man

its amazing

[trim harbor]

@shadow burrow