dedicated-servers

[deft panther]

then how my friend can join my server?

[slim spoke]

give htem the ip for the dedi

dedis dont use friend private setting

u have passwords and such

[snow hamlet]

anyone else getting regular timeout on their servers...?

[slim spoke]

exp yes

play on ea for now

[fleet silo]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/619e8c8a831c85205236154c can you please vote this? It's so frustrating

[tired whale]

I am running a dedicated experimental server via steamcmd - the last version of the client is 174.005 but the server stays at 173.879 an update gives me no change here - in order to rule out an error by me, I installed locally (on windows) the dedicated server via steam gui - same issue - am i missing something here? has anybody else this problem? is there any workaround to overcome this version mismatch or to enforce the gameserver update (other than steamcmd app_update)?

[stray hare]

same problem

[native canyon]

i was having the same issue, u had the server in experimental? if u had in the update to early access all servers changed from experimental to early access u just have to change it back

[tired whale]

So if I understand you correctly, one of the last updates changed the server behavior to be moved from experimental to ea by itself?

[slim spoke]

yes they pushed everyone to EA

[native canyon]

thats what i have been told

[slim spoke]

exp is testing a new patch

so its being done how it always has

if you care about playing your save then stay on EA servers

[tired whale]

Thanks for the update

that explains the issue and how to resolve ❤️ 🙂

[late coral]

@mild hill We are talking Experimental Dedicated Servers here, for "regular" client gameplay, mods are available, also to be considered "Experimental".
So for any regular Muppet out there: Mods for Servers are not feasible yet.

[bold light]

just wait for the game to be finished before you start changing it with mods 😛

[late coral]

this is #dedicated-servers .... so I readily assume everybody knows i'm talkin Dedicated servers here

[hushed bear]

Heya! I don't know if I can ask this here, but I just updated my server to the latest 'early access' update and I can't start the server.
This is the last response:

Engine crash handling finished; re-raising signal 11 for the default handler. Good bye.
Segmentation fault (core dumped)```

[slim spoke]

maybe they dont put mods on dedis so the devs can get all proper info to work on them

without 90% or more being mod errors

[late coral]

Considering there's no official mod support at all (whilst they do plan to support mods) mods for Dedicated servers (Which even in Early Access Branch are Experimental), yes, mods for Dedicated servers is mostly Academic Stage, it's possible but you really have to know what you are doing.

[hushed gate]

Ask for mods over at the [official modding discord](#welcome message). - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 28, 2021, 11:43 AM

[slim spoke]

just go there and ask the sources of the mods

[bold light]

i have trouble imagining what a server mod would actually do. any examples? :S

[slim spoke]

mods on dedis will just mess things up

til they are further along

[late coral]

Thanks, but I'll just wait till there's more experience with mods on Dedis

[bold light]

you mean like more than 0 experience?

[late coral]

yes

[slim spoke]

it happens when u discuss mods on vanilla game server lol

[late coral]

Mods on a server do the same things as they do in the client.

[slim spoke]

doesnt matter this discord is vanilla game play

faith spooky need more info then that .. is there a better crash log?

[hushed bear]

Maybe this is enough?
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a36df9831c852052362874

It used to work on experimental but after the update even that one doesn't work anymore

[slim spoke]

u should repost the issue/problem for people to know whats up

i got distracted by utube

[hushed bear]

Repost it in here?

[slim spoke]

yes people mostly dont roll back and read

[hushed bear]

Aight

I'm getting a SegFault error when booting up the dedicated server for early access after updating. Here is the error log:
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a36df9831c852052362874

[rose valley]

That looks like the save file could be corrupted. Without meaning to trivialize your bad experience and only in the name of science, have you tried loading another save? Or even starting a new game.

[hushed bear]

I have not, but let me try that

[slim spoke]

ive heard of a few with bad saves from save editors of recent

or leftover mod info

[rose valley]

yes we've seen that a bit more than usual recently.

[slim spoke]

i know some b4 u5 had to fix saves that game cleaned out modded items or something

so might be little of that possibly

[hushed bear]

I haven't used mods on the server or any save editors

[slim spoke]

on the save at any point

and its just a side theory for general problem not just urs

[hushed bear]

It was a clean save that I started on the server when they first launched them

[slim spoke]

k good to know

[rose valley]

Yeah I'm not saying we're bug free. But it's good to know.

Have you loaded it into experimental?

What could have happened is a crash on the socket threads while the savegame was getting written to disk. But that's just a wild guess. We'll have to be on the lookout for this kind of bugs.

[hushed bear]

It doesn't even wanna boot. It gets stuck at EOS_NotConfigured

I'm not great with these things, so I might be doing something wrong here

[rose valley]

Because I think it keeps trying to load that savegame. What if you delete the ServerSettings file?

Then the server will not try to load anything on startup and will wait to be claimed by someone.

[slim spoke]

lol bogdan i thru all the server stuff out and all my appdata .. and some how when i install a server it still pulls up the name and info from before

i literally thru all satis stuff off the comp and it still knows the server

only steamcmd was left on the drive

[hushed bear]

I don't have that file

[rose valley]

Nah, you must have missed that file somehow. The server can't conjure it out of thin air. Maybe steam cloud sync or smth?

[hushed bear]

Oh wait it was in the savegame

It just creates a new one and does the same thing

[rose valley]

Hmm.. I think it might be worth validating the server files in that case.

[hushed bear]

I already tried a fresh server install

[rose valley]

Something doesn't quite add up. What does the log look like at the time of the crash?

[hushed bear]

Just to be sure. I'm on Ubuntu 20.04. In case that matters :/

[slim spoke]

what cpu?

that could matter

[hushed bear]

A 7th gen Intel i7

Not sure which one

[slim spoke]

he will have to say lol .. i dont rmember which have what instruction sets

[rose valley]

Are you by any chance passing -multihome to the server on startup?

Also, the call stack would be interesting to see at this point.

[hushed bear]

Intel i7 7500u

[hushed bear]

How can I see this?

I'm sorry for being such a pain :/

[rose valley]

Hey, that's what this channel is for, don't feel bad.

How are you launching your server?

[hushed bear]

./FactoryServer.sh

[slim spoke]

im just typing and tryin to get right wording so im not making things worse

[sharp geode]

Random question. Does anyone know what the autosave#_contiue file is?

Just saved my mate as he glitched out as he died and the save was a few hours old. Was at the right spot

[rose valley]

So you aren't. Let see some logs, cause otherwise we're just wildly speculating.

[rose valley]

It's created by the server at the 24h automatic restart mark.

[slim spoke]

he could have it buried inside a file

alot put that stuff into another file

so it wouldnt get changed on updates

[sharp geode]

Ooooh, so it's a 24hr save?

[hushed bear]

Which logs do you want to see?

[rose valley]

The ones when the server is crashing.

The one you have attached to the QnA is from when the server is trying to load a save. But we removed ServerSettings so the server should not be trying to load a save now. Yet it's still crashing. Wanted to see what the new call stack looks like.

[sharp geode]

Just so happened to occur right when my buddy was having fun with a spider and lost his death create. Upon reconnecting. Reloaded that particular save a few hours later. He is very happy again lol

Thanks for clarification

Quick question with that. Does it happen 24hrs after server start or is it at a particular time of day?

[hushed bear]

Where should I post it?

[slim spoke]

if u post on qa and this doesnt resolve things it will be there for others to look at

oh post here and link it to the qa lol

[rose valley]

Or just put the call stack here, in case it's something obvious.

Then you can put it there if it's not going to be the case.

[rose valley]

Hmm... that server is not crashing. It's alive and well.

[hushed bear]

What?

[slim spoke]

i seen someone who had to change dir from a .local to other type .. cant remember the right words

[hushed bear]

Let me check the ip

[slim spoke]

like from virtual to constant/static

[hushed bear]

The IP address is correct

It still says the server is offline

[sharp geode]

Nevermind, found update 3 patch notes.

Wish there was a broadcasted message to all clients of a dedicated server. But now I know

[rose valley]

Sorry. Your message slipped through. Yeah, it's a plain dumb 24 hour timer.

There is a message when that restart happens.

[hushed bear]

Nvm it says version mismatch... So my save is probably corrupted

[slim spoke]

use other game

what is server build saying

ends 005 its exp and 389 is ea

[hushed bear]

005

[rose valley]

I suggest using early access.

You don't need the extra added trouble from experimental.

[hushed bear]

But I installed it without -beta experimental

[slim spoke]

should move the server to ea and put the save there

install using -beta

that will install ea instead of exp

[rose valley]

I've seen some reports of some steamcmd fuckery. Do what sanctum says.

[hushed bear]

Huh aight

[slim spoke]

steamcmd remembers stuff and it keeps going back to that one

[hushed bear]

Give me a minute to update

It's crashing again

[rose valley]

log?

[slim spoke]

that log is for exp server

before valide in the install cmd line .. put -beta public

that will force it over with its declaring

or i just replaced steamcmd

[rose valley]

And also that log seems to be trying to load a save. But I thought we nuked the ServerSettings

[slim spoke]

since its a zip i just deleted the folder and unpacked it again

you should move saves and inis you want

then delete the server folder

fix the cmdline for ea install

or delete steamcmd folder and replace it.. then run the regular ea install cmd without -beta or beta public

[sharp geode]

Broadcasted?

[hushed bear]

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit this is the line I just used

[rose valley]

Yes. There should be a notification in game (if that's what you mean).

[rose valley]

Now also make sure the server is not running when you run it.

And before starting the server again, delete the ServerSettings file.

[sharp geode]

Yea, that's what I mean. Apparently he didn't see anything so I thought I'd pass it along. I'll personally keep an eye out and report if necessary. 😁

[hushed bear]

It's installing right now

[slim spoke]

i think it just says in the corner that the server will restart .. just like how it says it will do an autosave .. but it might not show to all clients on dedi yet

someone was saying they didnt see notice server was going to autosave on all clients

[rose valley]

oh there is no autosave notice. it's the auto restart that I was talking about.

Autosave notice will be there eventually.

[hushed bear]

Even after running this command it still installs the experimental version

[slim spoke]

your doing something wrong im sorry to say

is server shutdown?

[hushed bear]

Yes

[slim spoke]

change install folder in cmd

[rose valley]

I always do +login before +force_install_dir. Is this order known to work?

[hushed bear]

To what? Just something else?

[rose valley]

Yes, just use a different directory.

[hushed bear]

When I did it that way it gave a warning to do it the other way around

[slim spoke]

warnings dont mean much

[hushed bear]

Aight, I just changed the install directory

Now I should just launch it?

[rose valley]

First make sure ServerSettings is gone.

[slim spoke]

u just installed whole new one in that min?

[hushed bear]

It is

Yeah

[rose valley]

I'm also a little skeptical of that but let's roll with it.

[hushed bear]

I might've done something wrong then

[slim spoke]

k ill shh and let bog lead

[rose valley]

Sorry sanctum. You don't need to, your help is appreciated. I'm just as lost as you are.

[slim spoke]

oh no no i dont mean it that way

just we kind of had 2 thoughts so i was letting u go

since ur being nice and using ur weekend time to help

[hushed bear]

Maybe I should just buy an already set up server and roll with that 🤣

[rose valley]

I'll lay back a little myself actually. Got an hour of quiet while everyone else naps so I'll use that wisely.

[hushed bear]

Leave the servers to the experts and stick with building web apps 🤐

Well... the game crashed after connecting to the server 🤣

It worked 🤐

Thanks guys for the help!

[slim spoke]

ur welcome .. have fun and enjoy 🙂

[hushed bear]

Oh the server crashed again. I guess that save is really corrupted

But now I'll be able to fix it myself 🙂

[slim spoke]

start a new save on server

[hushed bear]

I'll do some troubleshooting with earlier saves

I don't want 600 hours to go to waste like that

But thank you!

[lyric totem]

Is there any recommended specs for hosting a server through a docker specifically? I'm running an unRaid based server

[slim spoke]

lol i didnt give up its troubleshooting the server lol... but u go ahead have fun

[jovial remnant]

whats the spec of your server?

[lyric totem]

Just some scraps I got together

Think it's 3200mhz ram

[jovial remnant]

that should run grand

[lyric totem]

Awesome thanks for the quick reply

[frosty gale]

Hi!
Do someone why is it happening?

[slim spoke]

should post crash log

helloooooo lol

[frosty gale]

here

:D

[slim spoke]

LogWindows: Error: Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15777'

check your ports

[frosty gale]

Do you know where can I change server port?

[slim spoke]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

it tells you the way to change the ports

i dont want to remember it wrong and lead u off on some crazy

[frosty gale]

Okay, and last question is there a way to change server version???

[slim spoke]

yes

which one do u want to go to

[frosty gale]

172 183

[slim spoke]

Build 174005 is exp

173879 is ea

you should play on ea

[frosty gale]

Hm

[slim spoke]

exp is testing funky port patching

[frosty gale]

thats the problem

[slim spoke]

update your game

early access

[frosty gale]

So there isnt a way to downgrade game version

[slim spoke]

not the server its on ea

your game isnt updated properly

Patch Notes: Early Access (EXPERIMENTAL) - v0.5.0.8 – Build 172183

yours is an old exp client

[frosty gale]

oh

[slim spoke]

just goto ea and u can play on the server

[patent sun]

hi, Still no news about the mismatch version between Epic game Experimental and Dedicated server experimental ?

[slim spoke]

your server is ea

play on that and ur set

[patent sun]

I played with experimental on it all yesterday

[slim spoke]

well that says no

[patent sun]

I never installed EA on my computer oO

[slim spoke]

anyways

[patent sun]

That's weird

[slim spoke]

the game versions in ur pic say client is exp and server is ea

play on ea

exp is just for testing

its testing port patching so ur not missing out on fun stuff

#patch-notes

[patent sun]

Ok Nitrado send me an email they switch to EA this night...

but their wiki is not up to date

Thanks for the tips

[slim spoke]

ya cause the didnt at first and we sent people back to them

hahaha

have fun enjoy

[patent sun]

Thanks

[frosty gale]

How to install it with steamcmd?

[slim spoke]

your updating ur game

use launcher

exp server has a patch that causes issues so dont play on it

ur server is ea already so just fix your client

change to ea and update client if needed

173879 is ea

[silver root]

omg omg dedicated servers wooot

now how do I find some servers to play on?

[slim spoke]

#looking-for-group-old

[vapid dagger]

hi, i have a problem with my dedicated server (experimental): when at least 2 players are on the server. all players disconnects for no reason. The only error i found in the log is this:
Nov 28 15:22:04 server1 FactoryServer.sh[1679]: [2021.11.28-14.22.04:825][988]LogGenericPladlopen failed trying to load: Nov 28 15:22:04 server1 FactoryServer.sh[1679]: steamclient.so Nov 28 15:22:04 server1 FactoryServer.sh[1679]: with error: Nov 28 15:22:04 server1 FactoryServer.sh[1679]: steamclient.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Nov 28 15:22:04 server1 FactoryServer.sh[1679]: [S_API] SteamAPI_Init(): Loaded '/home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so' OK. (First tried local 'steamclient.so')

[nova ether]

Someone fixed the timed out error? After some minutes there is a timeout

[vapid dagger]

all of my friends also get a connection timed out (but only when there are at least 2 players on the server)

[nova ether]

My console got spammed with this:

LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:58496
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:58496
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:58496
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:58496
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::1]:41011
LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147462525 accept```

[vapid dagger]

yes i have the same error in my log

[slim spoke]

check the bug site

[nova ether]

Cant find anything there that describes our error

[vapid dagger]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a171ae831c852052362225

maybe this?

the logs posted in there have the same errors

the fix someone described with removing -multihome worked for me

[stuck cobalt]

Hi, anyone try a nitrado server? If yes do you have the update problem?
Thanks

[next smelt]

I started playing on the save that I originally made on a dedicated server, in singleplayer and now everytime I load into the save, I am spawned as a new player and have to find and kill my old player. I've done this a couple times and have saved afterwards everytime, but I am still spawned as a new player upon loading the save. Is there any way I can go about fixing this?

It seems to be a result of making the save on the dedicated server/multiplayer originally, and now for whatever reason i'm loading in as a new ID or something along those lines

Is there a way to convert this "multiplayer/server" save into a "single player" save?

[haughty veldt]

Hey guys my game version still mismatched the version of the dedicated server. im on steam and i heard people on epic allready got the patch. its been a day

anyone any help?

i can allready see the new patch. but my game wont update

[bleak dune]

try exiting steam, wait 2 minutes and start steam again and try again

[haughty veldt]

tried that, still no luck. i also tried verifying game files

im about the dumbest mofo out here rn. i forgot i set my game to early acces, and the new patch was for experimental. man shit. im sorry for the hassel

[bleak dune]

Ok, in steam, use only the EXP versions of satisfactory when using the server and client. That's the only way I know how to get it to work

[haughty veldt]

youre right, thank u sir

[bleak dune]

your welcome. There's a bug in the EA version still left that they need to fix. It will be a while before they can do that

[small haven]

you can still go into experimental branch with the dedicated server ... just add "-beta experimental" to the startup command of the dedicated server (if you can edit it with your provider) 🙂

[bleak dune]

I rather just run the steam version.

[flat zephyr]

Jumped into water and died, inventory became super sized

Chainsaw Mountain

Beacon rivaling space elevator

[hallow granite]

Why is my game constantly crashing?

[bleak dune]

more info if you please

Looks like they updated the EXP version again and screwed things up again. Does anyone know what the password is for this

It never did this before

Ah crap

[still bolt]

you cant connect to ded server with mods am i right ?

[bleak dune]

right

[still bolt]

thx

[faint marlin]

how to turn off this f*co-op? I turned it on in 3rd update, so it hung on me. Now it has become impossible to play at all

[bleak dune]

? what co op, more details please

[faint marlin]

old system mp in satisfactory

[bleak dune]

update

update your game. You should have or it should have done that for you.

[faint marlin]

were?

[bleak dune]

are you steam or epic

[faint marlin]

steam

but login or egs too

[bleak dune]

open your library and scroll down to you see satisfactory.

Right click on the game and do a verify. Making sure it's updated.

then load the game and load in the the saved game you want to play and have fun.

[faint marlin]

nope it doesnt work.

and now i lost full inventory

[bleak dune]

? what doesn't work.

[slim spoke]

find your other body and beat it til it dies to get your stuff back

[faint marlin]

i cnat go there cause radiation

[bleak dune]

then go some where else. I fail to under stand what your issue is

[faint marlin]

when i use esc. game dont stop. it means i play in mp

[fleet silo]

is it normal that patterns are not working? (lines on foundations)

[slim spoke]

u can use scim to move stuff

[bleak dune]

ok, so your connecting to a server, are you running that server

[slim spoke]

azazel ask in the satis or exp room or help

[bleak dune]

if your running the server. Make sure your running both EXP for server and client.

[slim spoke]

sorry shot i dont know

[faint marlin]

im host of server since 3rd upd.

and cant stop it now

[slim spoke]

just play ur game in single game and goto manage session set to private

load and play

[bleak dune]

My self I'm having new issues. It's asking for a password. and I have no idea what that is and I never set one

Yes, do that.

Don't use a server. just play SP

[faint marlin]

I CANT

[bleak dune]

?

[slim spoke]

this channel is for dedicated servers

[bleak dune]

ok, @faint marlin your in the wrong channel for SP. I guess no one has an idea what your trying to do

I don't know why, The manage sessions is not on my main menu. so I have no idea.

ok, I had to be logged in

[slim spoke]

explained in exp

[bleak dune]

well I started the server and removed the old server from the list. and created a new one. and I'm getting the same thing. It wants a password. before I can join that game or make any changes to the server. I'm stumped. It didn't do this before

[slim spoke]

check wiki for how to reset admin pass

[bleak dune]

I did. I fount the config files for the client and server. there was nothing in those files that related to a password

[slim spoke]

you delete 1 file from server folder in localappdata

[bleak dune]

nope. haven't deleted anything.

[slim spoke]

thats how to reset it

[bleak dune]

I never saw anything in the wiki about deleting a file. and the one i did find didn't exist.

[slim spoke]

How do I reset the Administrator password?
In the location where you can find the server's saved-game files, look for a file called

[bleak dune]

these are the only 2 folders that are in there.

all I see is this

[slim spoke]

its in hidden folder area for windows

where your saves are

searching in explorer finds the file

[bleak dune]

can you give me the name of the file by chance. that would help

maybe 1 or both of these 2 files

does epic and steam save the games in the same location

[slim spoke]

#faq

[bleak dune]

no way of knowing what to look for

[terse seal]

Is there a difference between dedicated servers early access and experimental?

[bleak dune]

Yes

[terse seal]

Thanks, we rent a server at Nitrado, does anyone know how to stay on experimental?

[slim spoke]

talk to nitrado about the server

and then play on exp

ea is a better choice though as exp might be rocky

[terse seal]

So it's not an edit in a file, to stay on experimental?

[slim spoke]

no its the server install cmd line

[bleak dune]

@slim spoke I got it working again. cool thanks. I just deleted the 2 files.

[terse seal]

Thanks!

[slim spoke]

have fun guys .. btw i just fixed my server so i had control of it again by resetting password .. thats what i was doing

just was on another computer

[hardy mulch]

is it just us that belts have a delayd input into machines. it stops every time even though there is plenty of room. or is this just a visual side bug?

[clear birch]

hy guys, can anybody tell me why stuff like this is happening and if it can be fixed?

this is how my belts look like - i/o 270 items

at every new belt conn the items seem to not render for a bit of the belt

[onyx fjord]

Hey guys. Does anybody know, how to change the branche of Dedicated Server on SteamCMD?
I just know the ID: "1690800" as this was the ID for the time, where just Experimental has a Dedicated Server.
Anybody knows anything?!

[clear birch]

yes

its in the wiki

-beta experimental in start args

[slim spoke]

wiki page tells you how to change

[clear birch]

@slim spoke do you know why wiki isnt edited for the ports?

[slim spoke]

what isnt?

[clear birch]

like, you only need the one query port in latest patch - will they edit the wiki when it gets EA?

[slim spoke]

its same ports still .. the patch is just testing if they can run the 3 thru 15777

exp is just the test bed for now

[clear birch]

alrighty - im gonna have a look at the patchnotes than for new DS stuff ^^

[ornate osprey]

that depends on if you are running the exp or ea build for the dedicated server. If you are running the ea build then the wiki is fully up to date

[onyx fjord]

Thanks @clear birch and @slim spoke
So, if i just Update the "normal" Server (ID: 1690800) it should be the Dedicated Server for the Early Access Version? Thats a good idea from CoffeeStain

[slim spoke]

yes

[clear birch]

i mean, before the DS was only experimental, with u5 it became EA and now you have to enable EXP like you choose for the game itself between EXP and EA

pretty straight forward

[ornate osprey]

correct

[clear birch]

just one question - the server ticks shown in overview - does this mean you can change it anywhere?

[slim spoke]

pinned messages should say or wiki

[ornate osprey]

The ID is the same for both EXP and EA, the only difference is you put a -beta experimental flag into the update arguments when you download the update.

[onyx fjord]

now i understand 😄
i dont need the Exp DS for now 🙂 Thanks again 🙂

[earnest willow]

Im having issues with friends trying to join dedicated server, shows as offline, have ports open in windows firewall and forwarded on router side https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/547543192833359873/914354730329845830/FFG0GlQWUAAgk0R.png

[clear birch]

aight, havent seen it - thanks

[slim spoke]

ya exp server is if u like pain and want to test

[clear birch]

i like both

[ornate osprey]

wrong link?

[clear birch]

xd

[earnest willow]

whoops

[slim spoke]

check the ports for server

[earnest willow]

i can join locally but friends see server offline

[ornate osprey]

If it's working inside of your network, I would double check the port forwarding in the router

[slim spoke]

something is blocking server from net

[echo dragon]

Anyone manage to run 2 dedicated servers on the same box at once? If so, would love to know how you configured it. 🙂

[slim spoke]

install in another folder and setup for diff ports

[echo dragon]

Will it create a separate directory for the game data so it does not try to load the other?

[slim spoke]

or use a container program

[gaunt gorge]

@echo dragon The saves are local to the application, so it should be fine.

@echo dragon Are you running on windows or linux for your server?

[echo dragon]

Windows Server 2019

[lofty escarp]

Me and a few mates are having the same issue aswell. Where machines are running at 50% efficiency even if everything's done right. Kind of gamebreaking, is there an obvious reason we're missing why this could be happening? The server's usage of its ram and cpu isn't even above 50%. We're also having "glitches" where items teleport along conveyer belts.

[earnest willow]

modem/router 1 (firewall disabled) -> router 2 (port fwd'd) -> dedicated server (firewall has ports opened)

[gaunt gorge]

@echo dragon If you used the SteamCMD to install the dedicated server, it's easy to get a second one going, the only thing you have to do is use different ports in your startup command.

Running the following for example:

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer1 +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer2 +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

Will create two servers in their own directories.

You will then need to run your FactoryServer.exe file something like this:

Server 1:

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -Port=7777

Server 2:

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -ServerQueryPort=15877 -BeaconPort=15800 -Port=8888

You can really use any port choice, but know that satisfactory will auto increment if it finds a conflicting port assignment.

@echo dragon Then in your dedicated server manager in game, you add the server with the same port as the ServerQueryPort.

[clear birch]

if hes running exp he only needs to change the query port, no?

beacon and game could be the same because everything gets routed through query port?

[gaunt gorge]

@clear birch While this is true, I saw mentions of issues in certain situations in the channel/thread where they were talking about it.

[clear birch]

ah ok, didnt read those

[gaunt gorge]

Also I don't know if he's running experimental or not.

😛

[clear birch]

=P

[gaunt gorge]

I'm too lazy to double check that

[clear birch]

"if hes running exp"

[echo dragon]

Was there a separate server release for main branch?

I am running main client branch

got the second server going

[gaunt gorge]

When you run steamcmd, you can add a -beta experimental to download the Experimental branch's server

but if you're on EA (Early Access) and not Experimental then you can omit that flag on the steamcmd.

[echo dragon]

got it. I do not have that flag on my server start up lines

Thanks for the help on this. Much appreciated.

[gaunt gorge]

We're all here for the same reason, and I think most of us stick around this channel because of our own curious nature.

[wary mirage]

I updated the server without the -beta experimental flag and somehow its still a version ahead of stable, what to do?

[languid quail]

anyone else think of a fix for my issue, trying to connect to a server in the same pc already configured port forwarding and enabled upnp but still shows as offline

[frosty gale]

If it was already at experimental, do -beta public instead of omitting -beta

[frosty gale]

You mean running a dedicated server on the same machine as the client? Try using localhost or 127.0.0.1 instead of your public IP, if you haven't already.

[swift delta]

So i have noticed that my server is now saving games to a different folder other than the one named server, and when i go to load saves in the server menu i no on longer see my most recent save, if i move the save to the server folder and try to launch that save it crashes the server. Is anyone else having this issue?

[languid quail]

does it not work if the host and client are in the same machine, I'm trying to see if I can connect to it then I'll ask someone else if they can connect to it

[swift delta]

i run server and game from the same machine

have been since they came out.. this is with the steam client, and steam dedicated server.

[languid quail]

ok probably a router setting thing then

[swift delta]

make sure you are using the right IP address..

you will need to be using the same one that you would give to others to connect to the server.

[languid quail]

yeah double checked the public ip and the corresponding private ip (ipv4) set it to UDP mode only

[swift delta]

you opened all the ports that the wiki suggest?

[languid quail]

yes 15777 15000 and 7777

[swift delta]

and the ip you will want to use to connect to your server will be the ip that shows up when you go to google and type "my ip"

[frosty gale]

It does, but using your network's public IP from inside the network requires functionality most home routers do not have

[languid quail]

yeah I configured public ip based on what whatsmyip says

[frosty gale]

So to avoid confusion, use your local IP to check the server is working, and an external machine to test the external connectivity.

[languid quail]

though now that I checked I used yougetsignal to check my if ports are open and it says its closed

not sure what other setting I can fiddle with

[swift delta]

is the server up and running on your machihne?

machine?

[languid quail]

yea

i'mma try deep diving into my router settings again

[swift delta]

use your ipv4 address in the router.

when setting up your port forwarding.

then use you public IP when adding the server through the client

[languid quail]

yes I used the public IP when adding server in the client

[frosty gale]

Again, that's unlikely to work. A router looping a NAT back to a local connection like that isn't often supported.

Unless you want to risk wasting time on something that will never work (unless you know your gear supports it, of course), test it from an external source.

[swift delta]

works quite well with my asus router.. didnt have to do anything special other than adding in the port forwarding

[languid quail]

I'll try local but tom I guess

[frosty gale]

Using your public IP to connect to a NAT'ed port from inside the LAN, @swift delta? Interesting, I've never seen the option in any of my Asus routers. Admittedly, I don't remember actually testing it either, I just habitually don't even try.

[turbid ridge]

Hi what change this?

Implemented a mechanism that routes all server packets through the query beacon, in effect reducing the number of ports that need to be open/forwarded to 1, simplifying setup.

[languid quail]

I need to do some weird rituals to get the router admin settings cause our countries isp sucks

[turbid ridge]

Which is the port now that i need to change, because there is no more info?

[frosty gale]

You don't need to change anything, but if you were to set it up from scratch now you'd only need one of the ports. Although, that version has shown itself to be pretty unstable. I switched away from experimental because of it, it caused a lot of crashes for me.

[turbid ridge]

Thanks, just wanted to know if i need to change anything in my Docker image

But didn't notice it's in experimental

[warped oriole]

Is it possible to launch a dedicated server without it creating a new console on Windows?
As I'd like it to use the one supplied by Windows Terminal.

[frosty gale]

Hi, I'm trying to join the localhost server and after joining there is nothing I can do, and the game looks like this.

[sly flax]

everything is all right, wait a little and everything will load

[alpine relic]

any workaround to fix not responding dedi server (174005)?

[remote token]

Where is the Engine.ini file located? There is no file in the folder with the game, in the folder with the server installed, as well as in the save folder! Do I have to create it manually? And I didn't find a file with the settings for the number of players for the server.

[alpine dawn]

#looking-for-group-old

[alpine dawn]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files

[remote token]

Question: what could be the problem if the server is not available locally (the server is running!). A very long relationship. As a result, a message appears: the server is not connected to the network. There is an error in the log that the Steam ID is incorrect (strange).

[fleet silo]

why the server keeps shutting down every 24 hours?

[alpine dawn]

its programmed to do so

[fleet silo]

how can I avoid that?

[alpine dawn]

you cant

[fleet silo]

wtf

why haha

this doesn't make sense

[alpine dawn]

because they didnt make a setting for it

it shouldnt shutdown

it should restart

if its actually shutting off there is a problem

haha

[fleet silo]

yaeh it should haha

[full vector]

it should indeed automatically restart every 24 hours to ensure stability and performance. Many game servers will recommend for you to do that, they went a step further and just did it. If its not coming back up automatically after a short while, put a bug on the QA site with all the information

[fleet silo]

Oh, so it's not common for everyone?

[frosty gale]

It restarts for me. It took me being online when the "restarting in 30 minutes" notification came up to even realize it was doing it

I seem to recall someone in here recently saying theirs shut down instead of restarting, though, so odds are you're not the only one if it's doing that

[hushed garnet]

pls help

[alpine dawn]

never actually seen mine restart but its always running when I go to connect

[alpine dawn]

what are you having an issue with

[hushed garnet]

server wont start on vps

[alpine dawn]

looks like its started in that pic

[hushed garnet]

hmm

wierd

[foggy cove]

anyone getting a shit ton of blue screen/crashes? Playing on a dedicated server, just started happening. can't go 5 minutes without it now

[alpine dawn]

I have not seen that...are you on EA or EXP?

[foggy cove]

EA

[alpine dawn]

might want to re-verify your client files

what is the error on the BSOD

generally those are hardware/driver related

so like video card drivers or network drivers

[frosty gale]

My dedicated server just restarted itself after 24h runtime. Everything went fine. I was just wondering why it did that? Is it an autoupdater or something?

[alpine dawn]

auto restart

they built that into the servers

[frosty gale]

Do you know why? preventing memory leaks perhaps?

[alpine dawn]

yeah thats my best guess

I presume once the servers mature a bit more they may make it a setting

or eliminate it I dont know

[frosty gale]

yeah. also my guess. thx!

[graceful mist]

Is there a setting for tick rate?

[alpine dawn]

#dedicated-servers message

[graceful mist]

Perfect, Thank you

[rough garden]

Hey, I'm having trouble running my dedicated server

it ran yesterday

today it is complaining that it doesn't have an amd windows driver on an intell linux server

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a3fe89831c852052362a78

[thorny storm]

Does the dedicated server allow poeple build there own factories

[pallid rivet]

??

[slim spoke]

its just a server to play the game on ..its the same game still

1 hub and unlocks

[thorny storm]

So poeple still have to be traped with poeple ah i was hoping dedicated servers allowed freedom lols

[inner rose]

singleplayer is freedom

[thorny storm]

Singleplayer also boring lols

I give it more time

[slim spoke]

wait til game is done and they add modes

[gusty mesa]

I assume Dedicated servers are still in experimental. But do you need to have the exerpimental satisfactory branch installed to join a dedicated server or can you use the early access one?

[slim spoke]

there is EA servers

[gusty mesa]

Ah okay nice

[slim spoke]

check the wiki page for dedicated servers

[gusty mesa]

I don't need to re-setup? I assume I can just update it and it should be good?

[slim spoke]

ya

[lost orchid]

Hello, is there a preferred dedicated host for satisfactory servers?

[slim spoke]

NO

peopel dont all live in 1 spot on the planet

[lost orchid]

Lol, I'm talking about like a VPS provider

[slim spoke]

routing internet

best is subjective

[alpine dawn]

best is the server rack in my garage

lmao

[sharp bough]

do you want 10 ms ping or 350 ms ping

or anything in between

[hazy mango]

hello all, for some reason my serve keeps wanting update to experimental version on the EA version, Help! please

[slim spoke]

dont tell it to update and it wont

hehe

[hazy mango]

wow

[sharp bough]

find a well respected vps provider and grab a 6gb (??) ram 4 core (??) vm with free bandwidth (low bandwidth is fine) and your good from what ive seen

[slim spoke]

use -beta public

to force it off the exp

[hazy mango]

I am not

[lost orchid]

Thank you very much @sharp bough that is the info I'm looking for

[hazy mango]

useing -beta public is not even listed on the wiki please update

[slim spoke]

not my job

[hazy mango]

san zip it your being an ass

[slim spoke]

the wiki is community driven and done .. so u can go there and put the info in just as well as anyone else

[hazy mango]

what ever then why not you if its not your job then its not mine

[slim spoke]

ur the one who wants it updated on there

[hazy mango]

don't care

[slim spoke]

i dont care if its not there its not that useful

[hazy mango]

ok then life goes

[crimson cobalt]

need help it sayes that my server offline how to get it online

[slim spoke]

what kind of server is it

where is it

[crimson cobalt]

satifactory server if that to me sanctum

[icy tinsel]

have you entered the correct ip to where the server is running on? have you opened the necessary ports to the server?

[light mason]

Hello, was wondering....I'm running a server for me and my friends on the experimental branch, how do I increase the ram size for the server?

[quick mist]

The server will allocate what RAM is needs when it is needed.

it's not a Java application where you have to tell it its cap at startup

[light mason]

ok, ty

[quick mist]

certainly!

[alpine dawn]

What does your steamcmd line look like?

[light mason]

Im running it for epic, dont have it through steam

[slim spoke]

greg, i told that guy how to change back to ea

[alpine dawn]

Ah cool

[hazy mango]

-beta public

[alpine dawn]

That should get you back on track

[hazy mango]

bit did

[light mason]

also, the game wants to crash when my friends build away from me, is there a fix for it

[slim spoke]

might have to check the bug site

[light mason]

where would I find the bug site

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 29, 2021, 1:36 AM

[slim spoke]

there ya go 🙂

[light mason]

ty

[sick bear]

i started a dedic. serv i enter but it dont let me change the "private" to "friendsonly" anyone knows how to fix it?

[slim spoke]

dedicated servers dont use that setting

that is for listen servers

[sick bear]

i started a dedicated server, opened ports... etc.. server starts i can enter but my friend cannot

[slim spoke]

ports or something is blocking it

[sick bear]

ports 15000 / 15777 / 7777 / 7828 and antivirus exceptions are configured but my friends cant enter.

[gusty imp]

The ports would be forwarded on your firewall, not theirs.

[sick bear]

yes i have that ports and antivirus exceptions configured... but they cant enter

[gusty imp]

Maybe try one of those external port verifier sites? If you can get to it on your LAN and they can't, its pretty much gotta be not forwarded properly. Make sure you're doing tcp/udp both or have correctly set which is tcp and which is udp.

[sick bear]

dedic server and game have to be on experimental or normal?

version

[bleak dune]

EXP

[modern edge]

I got a question, so my friend has a world that he hosts, is there a way to turn that into a dedicated server and keep all the progress?

[alpine dawn]

its actually available on both

[alpine dawn]

yes you can move the savegame to the dedi

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_a_save_file

[alpine dawn]

whatever your server is running your clients need to also run or you will get version mismatch

[sick bear]

you guys recomend to use normal or experimental clients to create and join a friends dedicated server

[alpine dawn]

It depends on what version the server uses

[alpine dawn]

you have to be on the same version the server runs

or it wont work

so if the server is EXP you have to be EXP

if its EA you have to be EA

[sick bear]

i know but... what do you recomend to use? exp or normal for dedic server?

[alpine dawn]

oh right now EA is best

EXP is broken for a lot of people

[ancient sand]

hey all, i wrote a discord bot to manage a dockerized Satisfactory server. i use it on my discord server to allow my mates to manipulate the server when i am not online

https://github.com/scumbug/tableboptop

currently only supports:
start/restart/stop
show cpu ram usage
grab save files

feel free to use/fork/enhance

[full cipher]

is it normal that when running the server from steam it wont let you launch the game?

[alpine dawn]

you are playing on the same machine you host the server on?

[full cipher]

no not same machine

[quick mist]

Steam generally only lets you run one product from your library at a time. however once the server is downloaded you can run its start script directly rather than via the Steam library and you're off to the races.

(the server's only connection to Steam is that it can be used to download it)

[full cipher]

ok i get that, but it seems like the server and the game shouldnt count as the same product?

[quick mist]

I agree

but sometimes Steam can be cantankerous about that for some reason. I had similar problems back in the day when running a Half-Life Dedicated Server for Team Fortress Classic

[golden jolt]

How do I get the EA server

[alpine dawn]

-beta public

[alpine dawn]

are you running windows or linux server

[golden jolt]

windows

[alpine dawn]

ah, did you use steamcmd to install the server?

[golden jolt]

I know all this

I have exp server

[alpine dawn]

ok but I need to know if you used steamcmd to install it because thats the only way I know

at any rate if you did then you just replace -beta experimental with -beta public

[golden jolt]

I changed the path

[alpine dawn]

cool

anyway that should get the server on EA

might need validate in the string as well, dunno

[golden jolt]

No problem?

[alpine dawn]

looks like it might work

[golden jolt]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

not work

[alpine dawn]

yeah I dont know if it will work without validate

steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir $InstallationDir +app_update 1690800 -beta default validate +quit

thats the command mine uses

might need -beta default validate

or public

[golden jolt]

ok,I'll try again in the evening

[eager condor]

I normally re-run the install to update

Which is what Greg put (that I didn't see before opening my mouth haha) but modify it for windows

[light cliff]

Hello everyone,
Anyone have the same issue:

Linux dedicated version is not up to date?

[eager condor]

Run the command from Greg but swap out the $installationdirectory with where your server is installed as that is a pterodactyl variable

And remove -beta if you are running early access

[light cliff]

That what I have done, let me try again$

Playing on the experimental branch

I will play on the early access, it seems to work

Thanks for the help

[kind depot]

How are the dedicated servers working so far. I usually host games and when my friend joins i'm below 50 fps pretty much the whole game. I'm able to connect to my dedicated server and i'm 144 locked pretty much all the time

Am I risking losing a lot of progress?

[alpine dawn]

I have never lost progress using the dedi

[kind depot]

Awesome. I'm very excited for this

Will dedicated keep my pc awake? Or do I have to change power settings,. I want to be able to go to work and have a friend join and make progress

[alpine dawn]

yeah I dont know how it works on windows but I assume you would have to tweak windows power settings

[kind depot]

Did you set up dedicated on a separate machine?

[alpine dawn]

yeah its running on a linux server in my garage

[kind depot]

Do I have to leave my satisfactory game open? or is it good to go as long as dedicated server has had the file uploaded to it

I was just on it running around. I closed game all the way out, dedicated server is open still. Will my friend be able to join?

[alpine dawn]

upload the save to the dedi and its fine by itself

yeah you can exit your client

[kind depot]

excellent. I haven't played since october 2020. Enjoying update 5 so far!!! Cheers

[clear frigate]

Hmm, i really love the dedicated servers, however. Since 2 or 3 experimental updates ago, i can no longer (because i used to be able to) connect to the server, i am getting connection timed out very regularly. Oddly started happening when that network feature was announced to control its bandwidth

[shut cobalt]

anyone having a fix for server update becurse im stuck now

[clear frigate]

The Network and ports works, they always did, they used to, but now i am getting this constantly

That started happening when the bandwidth control for Dedicated Servers was implemented. I set them to ultra but still nothing

I am at complete loss here on why it's doing this

[shut cobalt]

so im running a server on Pterodactyl Software Linux System and i can´t update my server at all anyone know how to fix it (im using Epic to play the game on tho)

[clear frigate]

You need to get the experimental branch on the server too

[shut cobalt]

And how do i do that?

this is how is running +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[slim spoke]

noprops just play on EA

exp server wont help u its testing port patching and is worse

[shut cobalt]

Yea but i just like EXP becurse it have all the new stuff 😄

[slim spoke]

there isnt any new stuff

update 5 is on ea

[shut cobalt]

Ohh

[slim spoke]

#patch-notes

[shut cobalt]

ahh i see

[odd fractal]

i don't want to use the experimental branch ... i've updated my server with steamcmd +force_install_dir /home/games/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/ +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit (so no experimental flag) ... but now my client is behind this version ...

[slim spoke]

before validate put -> -beta public

to install ea dedi server

[odd fractal]

thx ... this is working

[woeful citrus]

Tip for everyone who host multiple servers. Ark survival evolved use the same poort as satisfactory port: 7777. You can use -port:8000 in startup to host on other ports

[full vector]

any unreal engine games share that default port, fwiw 🙂

[woeful citrus]

Yea didn't know kinda stupid

Does anyone know how to host multiple servers on 1 ip. Just change beacon and host ports?

[slim spoke]

google lol

[maiden vale]

If you are using one vm per server you just forward different ports to the public and leave the internalports as they are.

[steel osprey]

enter experimental in beta Variable field

[woeful citrus]

And is it possible when not using a vm

Or does it just looks for a port and when its taken its goes on a higher port

[maiden vale]

then change the ports.

[slim spoke]

yes server increments on failed port

[woeful citrus]

Nice learned something more about servers today tnx

[shut cobalt]

@steel osprey i already did That is not working

[golden jolt]

thanks

[viral stump]

hello i am trying to join my friends server but somehow it appears to be offline what do i have to do to join him?

[slim spoke]

tell him to run the server and fix his ports

make sure ur defender , firewalls and av are good

[viral stump]

okay thank you

[golden jolt]

I thought the EA version didn't have such bug, but it still did

Jesus

[feral dawn]

Yah that bug drives my OCD crazy lol

[slim spoke]

dont sit and watch it

[golden jolt]

The bug of the floor hole is still there

[feral dawn]

Im sure CSS will fix all of the things sooner than later.

[golden jolt]

why

There was no such thing in the last version

[feral dawn]

Welcome to programming, sometimes u fix one thing and break another, annoyingly.

[golden jolt]

Jesus

I'm crazy

This bug sometimes makes me wonder if it is full

Because it's discontinuous

stuck

[feral dawn]

Yeah, this is why I dislike this bug personally, but usually I just go by the output of the machines, as the input always seems to match into the next machine no matter how buggy the belt looks.

[slim spoke]

ya but its a game rendering issue

[viral stump]

hm i turned firewalls off and all but still my friends server appears to be offline and also he tried to change from private to friends only but when he restarted game it went back to private

[slim spoke]

dedicated server doesnt use that setting

[viral stump]

sorry i missunderstand something there we got it now but thanks

[steel osprey]

better discuss this in Ptero Discord.

[slim spoke]

he just had to play on ea

since exp is testing patches that mess shit up

[alpine relic]

Anyone fixed the timed out issue?

[slim spoke]

remove -multihome

play on ea

[crystal eagle]

Steamcmd experimental server since the last update keeps on crashing

[slim spoke]

ok

[full vector]

there is a known issue with the single port mode introduced, just stick to EA if you suffer from that

[slim spoke]

remove multihome from cmd lines

[burnt thistle]

how does one do that on epic? have the save issue i think

[slim spoke]

you setup cmd line to run server

remove the -multihome if its in there

[burnt thistle]

can you explain in more detail my server is host by a server hosting site but my game is giving me the Unetconnection... timed out error i try to join it and have reinstalled the game on the server host provider and verified my local game files too ,but to no avail.

when i add the server to my server manager it says Server name pending NotAuthenticated and it just started with this new build 174005 update

[slim spoke]

install ea server

[feral dawn]

Out of interest, who have u bought ur server from?

[burnt thistle]

zap but i got it working going back to ea im issuming something broke in the new update

[slim spoke]

that doesnt mean anything

[feral dawn]

ah okay, was wondering if it was nitrado as they have been giving the incorrect port to customers lol.

[clear frigate]

Something did break in the new update, yes, been already 3 exp versions now

[burnt thistle]

was never doing that before then i start having connection timed ouy every time

[clear frigate]

i have that exact same problem when right before both ea and exp got the same build it worked fine

Now all i get is connection timed out

[slim spoke]

play on ea

[clear frigate]

it's frustrating because we don't know what causes it

[slim spoke]

exp has port patch that needs to be fixed

[feral dawn]

Host NAT does not apply if you're trying to connect to somewhere else, host NAT only applies if your hosting the server via your game client.

[slim spoke]

or exp server probably has -multihome in the cmds .. which u should remove

[clear frigate]

Considering i uses LinuxGSM, no i don,t have multihome in the cmd

[slim spoke]

using that means nothing its part of server cmd line to run it

[clear frigate]

it's weird, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn,t

i doubt it has to do with that

[slim spoke]

it was used briefly for a bug and people didnt remove it

[clear frigate]

No but that is what i mean

[slim spoke]

ok dont try.. that was from the one dev working on dedis

[feral dawn]

having multihome=0.0.0.0 on the cmdline does not break anything, u can either keep it or get rid of it, it does not change anything.

[clear frigate]

LinuxGSM's sfserver uses cmd to run the server, i override them with a custom cmd in the .cfg file, there is no multihome in

[slim spoke]

bogdan recommends removing it cause it causes a bug

[feral dawn]

either way, Sect has told you multiple times he has already removed it

[slim spoke]

also the patch on exp is causing some of the issues

hence play on ea

[clear frigate]

Wasn,t there something like an option to enable in the server ? I head the CSS say it

[slim spoke]

no what he said was i use this so i dont have that cmd .. which made no sense

but u go ahead help them out

[feral dawn]

na u got this bro

i believe in u

[slim spoke]

naaaa its fine

i dont need to explain myself to help

[clear frigate]

So you're telling me the exp build of the server is just defect ?

[feral dawn]

@clear frigate currently the new Single Port approach is very 50/50, it'll either work fine or wont work fine. there have been many bugs with it (check the thread on it in this channel)

I would recommend you stay on Early Access, as there are no new functional changes to the game right now between Early Access and Experimental, other than the single port change

[clear frigate]

Hmm, alright, time to validate my game back into EA

and the server too

[feral dawn]

plz remember to throw -beta public onto the steamcmd update command in order to successfully downgrade back to Early Access

i think it's +app_update <id> -beta public validate

something like that

[clear frigate]

so branch="public" in my case, got it

[feral dawn]

wiki tells you 😄

perfect 🙂

[clear frigate]

I am getting a yellow message "Please use force_install_dir before logon!"
Not sure if that is important or not

[rose steeple]

Hey new here, is there too many bugs to play dedicated compare to a player hosting a game? Is it that big of a difference!

[feral dawn]

hm interesting, i have never done it that way - always had +login +force_install +app_update

perhaps a new update to steamcmd.

[slim spoke]

login in first works fine

[clear frigate]

Yeah mine is logged using a steam dedicated server account

[feral dawn]

A good question. Trains can be rather wonky. but mostly everything works as intended.

It really depends if you want to keep your factory awake, while you're game is not 🙂

[clear frigate]

Usually use that for steamcmd related servers in the event it's required

[rose steeple]

Thank you, yeah mostly for my friends to play when am not there.

[feral dawn]

Then go for it! - You can always change the amount of autosaves your server does, so you have a wide range of possible backup saves in case something goes wrong 🙂

[warped oriole]

Is it possible to launch the server without it creating a new window (i.e. having it log in the current console) on windows?

[rose steeple]

Exellent

[feral dawn]

I do not believe so.

[slim spoke]

setup a service to start it

[warped oriole]

😢
Doesn't it log in the same console on linux?

[slim spoke]

wiki has the info on dedicated server page and linked pages

[feral dawn]

Yeah, it uses stdout.

[warped oriole]

Then why does it create a new window on windows?

[feral dawn]

hm

I dunno, i think its been that way since Unreal Engine 3 😐

[warped oriole]

Hmm, so it's something with UE?

[feral dawn]

oh yes 100%

it's not a satisfactory thing, it's an unreal engine thing

[warped oriole]

Lemme take a look at the console logging system UE has real quick

[feral dawn]

i guess the linux binary just throws output differently than winblows.

[warped oriole]

winblows
Nice name 😉

[feral dawn]

😛

I would guess, that the problem here really is that -log can be used in: The UE Editor, Any UE Game and Dedicated Server binaries.

so one would assume that they just use the same code path on windows to throw open a new log window, no matter the binary.

[warped oriole]

Maybe

But afaik it's pretty easy to check if the application has a console attached or not already, so a bit weird but I guess it's just old UE3 stuff

[feral dawn]

yeah agreed

[clear frigate]

hmm, i wonder what the _continue appended saves does in comparison to the autosaves

[feral dawn]

i think the contiune save is created when the server auto-restarts every 24 hours.

[clear frigate]

aah

But hooray it works again

[feral dawn]

\o/

[mossy wolf]

The frequent server side updates being pushed is kind of an issue because the server keeps doing the automated restart and then not coming back up because it needs to be updated or something.

[slim spoke]

play on ea server

[warped oriole]

So I found the function that shows the log window in UE4.26:

// Source/Runtime/Launch/Private/LaunchEngineLoop.cpp:2770
int32 FEngineLoop:PreInitPostStartupScreen(const TCHAR* CmdLine)

[frosty gale]

I'm pretty sure I saw Bogdan mention that's what it is, yes.

[mossy wolf]

Yeah, the server was moved to EA as soon as EA came out. But it still seems to be getting at least one if not multiple patches per day or something.

[warped oriole]

Also the -log argument is handled on line 5626 in the same file

[slim spoke]

what version is the server? cause last update was only exp

your server might be updating to exp version cause of steamcmd

@mossy wolf

before validate in cmdline to install put -beta public

[full vector]

There are no EA updates daily, but the server is setup to automatically restart once a day

[slim spoke]

thanx nev yes that 2 lol

[mossy wolf]

Yeah, however doesn't that restart "restart" not go down and need to be manually started again?

[full vector]

the last update to the steam server repository for EA was 4 days, on Thursday, and for EX on Friday

[mossy wolf]

Hmm. It went down and needed to be updated on Saturday and then it went down yesterday and needed to be updated also.

[slim spoke]

no its not needing updating

[full vector]

https://steamdb.info/app/1690800/history/ steam no lie 🙂

[slim spoke]

#patch-notes

they dont work on weekends

[full vector]

(ignore changes for "staging" or "nightly", those are their internal testing, but also only started today, and not over the weekend)

[warped oriole]

Hmm seems like UE does have support for it, but apparently they don't use it (For those wondering the code is found at Source/Runtime/ApplicationCore/Private/Windows/WindowsConsoleOutputDevice.cpp, for UE4.26 that is)

[mossy wolf]

Yeah, just reporting what the server admin was reporting about why the server wasn't coming back up because when they tried to just start it, it would complain about being out of date.

[slim spoke]

probably cause ea and exp clients arent the same build

same with the servers

879 = ea ... 005 = exp

[full vector]

servers shouldnt even complain about being out of date, the client might when you try to connect

[mossy wolf]

How do you check the running version of the server?

[slim spoke]

check server manager

or hte server

[mossy wolf]

How do you check from the server? It's just a stream of console output.

Or is there a host side web interface or something?

[slim spoke]

read the log

just look in server mananger or connect

remember i dont know ur setup or skill level

[mossy wolf]

It's a Windows VM running the server. Client side I'm running the 879 EA build. It doesn't seem like it has the switch in the update script to run EA so it might still be on Exp.

[slim spoke]

connect a client

if its not match to ea client then its exp

[mossy wolf]

Ahh, so it is running EA then. Not sure what they did with the server that it is running EA without the switch in the update script to download the EA patches.

[slim spoke]

you could ask the hosters

just a thought for next time

[feral dawn]

If you search the log file for the word build it'll show the version :) if that's of use.

[mossy wolf]

Yeah, they said that it was EA, however it keeps apparently needing to be updated before it will launch.

[slim spoke]

sounds like ur misreading stuff or something

[feral dawn]

Sounds like they are validating the install every launch.

[mossy wolf]

This is unfortunately coming from arms length since I'm just reporting back what the server owner is reporting.

[slim spoke]

well its not updating all weekend

they are confused or full of it

[mossy wolf]

They are technical at more of a tinkering level rather than professional so they may be misreading or operating it in an inefficient manner.

[slim spoke]

and server doenst know when there is an update

[feral dawn]

My guess, is that they left the validate parameter on the steamcmd install line, which they are running every time your server starts.

[slim spoke]

i think they fought with getting off exp and finally got it hehehe

[mossy wolf]

Ehh, wouldn't hurt to have that as a feature down the road, have it check and auto-update as default behaviour on launch. Then you can have a launch option to disable auto-check if you want to run a particular build.

[feral dawn]

Yeah, that's how most servers do it, just without validate

[slim spoke]

if u dont run the update/install cmd line then u can stay on a build

but client is issue then

[mossy wolf]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
For the start script they are just using this.

[slim spoke]

ya u setup a server

and u can do bat or whatever to run install cmd line first

then start server

wiki has bunch of information about it

[mossy wolf]

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
This is their update one, might be slightly overkill to validate, but the actual startup shouldn't call this.

[rancid basalt]

stupid question... i had my server working and friends could connect. now i installed nssm and am running as a service and its forgotten the server information. I have recreated it and was trying to upload the save, but it looks like possibly the path is different now to where the game saves are to load from? i dont see an updated game save available to upload

can anyone tell me if the path is different now for when you are starting as a service?

[slim spoke]

servers shouldnt move

[rancid basalt]

i still see all my old saves in AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server

but they aren't available to "upload"

[slim spoke]

using some shell or whatver u put things in different places so u have to check what your using to see what is setup for

[rancid basalt]

i'm on windows hosting the server myself

[feral dawn]

C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server is where the save files reside when running under NSSM, unless you made the service start as your user.

[rancid basalt]

ahh, that may be it

yeah that path is empty on mine

so i was running as a user i guess, now its goin to load under the system

i'll move my saved games to there and restart

[feral dawn]

yeah, u have two options

either do that, or configure nssm's service that you made to run as your user

[rancid basalt]

or is it better to change the service?

[feral dawn]

so it still uses c:\users\whatever\etc etc

totally up to you 🙂

[rancid basalt]

ahh

i may try and do that 🙂

you good with nssm? i'm completely new

[feral dawn]

nssm edit SERIVCE_NAME

[rancid basalt]

awesome!

thank you

[feral dawn]

🙂

[rancid basalt]

Boom! back up and running!

[feral dawn]

woot

[rancid basalt]

Thank you so much Alien!

[feral dawn]

no problemo, enjoy belt spaghetti

[rancid basalt]

lol, ikr!

another random question that i'm sure was covered

is there a way to auto update the server when a new release is out? right now i'm just running the steam app_update command

[feral dawn]

no, the server is not aware of when a new update is pushed

[rancid basalt]

ok, thats what i figured, just wanted to make sure 🙂

its not a huge deal and easy enough to fix when it happens

thanks again Alien!

[feral dawn]

you could make your service restart every x hours, or whatever time scale

and make it run a bat file that checks for an update before running the actual server binary

that's as close as you'll get.

[rancid basalt]

ahh, thats not a bad idea

i should actually probably set a restart every night anyway

help keep it fresh, lol

[feral dawn]

the server reboots itself every 24 hours anyway, but i dont know if it's a full restart of the process or just a reload of the level.

[rancid basalt]

ahh i didnt know that

nice

thanks again for all your help

[alpine relic]

Can I downgrade my dedicated server without ruining the save?

[slim spoke]

yes

you could also just copy the save file incase

[alpine relic]

thx 😄

[cloud beacon]

what is a good server host?

[warped oriole]

So after debugging the exe through windbg I can say it works as expected there (Outputting into the debug console that windbg has).

[median path]

is the dediserver single core?

[slim spoke]

no

[versed merlin]

No, it uses multiple cores/threads. However, as the game uses a single thread for many of it's calculations, your server will be heavily dependent on the speed of a single core. The main thread will spawn worker threads as needed, yet the majority of the server's work is done within a single core.

[median path]

got it; haven't run into issues but was something i was thinking about

running it on a decently old Xeon at this point, so not the fastest single core speed of 2.67Ghz

But it is 12/24 core/thread

[granite basalt]

Does someone know how to access the console (like in steamCMD) when using the steam DS program?

[slim spoke]

ingame use server manager

[versed merlin]

COnnect via a game client, the go to Server Manager, select the server, then choose the console panel

[granite basalt]

Yea I got around to this. This has the same commands I would have in steamCMD?

[versed merlin]

No.

Only theSatisfactory game's commands

[granite basalt]

Ok so then no way of having this window other then using steamCMD instead?

[versed merlin]

Of which only a few are currently know.

[granite basalt]

Because the current log is read-only

[slim spoke]

in windows start cmd and goto steamcmd folder and run the long steamcmd line from the wiki

[granite basalt]

Well essentially using steamcmd no?

[slim spoke]

or u can fire steamcmd

and do all the steps

[versed merlin]

without knowing WHAT you're asking for, what your endgoal is, I can say "sure, go for it" and have no clue.

[slim spoke]

its for installing the server

[versed merlin]

What are you trying to accomplish?

[granite basalt]

Having the same power as in being in a headless environement. For exemple would be switching any ports. I don't see a way of doing such with the steam Dedicated Server program other than having a launch command line

[slim spoke]

you do that stuff with the cmd line for the server

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[versed merlin]

That is correct. To change ports and such, you'll need to use the launch commandline and associated arguments to adjust.

[slim spoke]

steamcmd is just to download and install the server

the rest is done after that

wiki has all the cmds to put in the starting cmd for ports and such

[versed merlin]

The SteamCMD program is used to download and install the dedicated server files without needing a Steam Acount.

[granite basalt]

Agreed. It just seems less ''powerfull'' if you will

Powerfull isnt the right term here sorry

[versed merlin]

It's not a GUI, doesn't mean it's less "powerful" 😉

[granite basalt]

It seems cumbersome to use launch command lines lol

[slim spoke]

steamcmd isnt meant to run the server its just a backend file server

[versed merlin]

Welcome to the world of running commandline servers in a headless environment

[granite basalt]

No I understand there isnt a GUI

[slim spoke]

you dont like change ports all the time so u set them and forward them and such 1 time and set in cmd line

if u dont use the defaults

[granite basalt]

Got it guys thx

[versed merlin]

Good luck. The SteamCMD method really is elegant and low-overhead.

[granite basalt]

Wonder if they have plans to make a UI. Have you tried a Conan Exiles Server? I like how they implemented a UI to tweak values around and broadcast announcement through the server. YOu guys know if Coffee Stain has this kind of things in plan?

[slim spoke]

they are building the dedis as we go

[granite basalt]

Of course

[granite basalt]

Think I might switch to this method at some point

[versed merlin]

They may or may not. We haven't seen a roadmap of what they plan to do with the Dedicated Servers. I suspect some of the functionaity that you're comparing to may be created later by mods and then possibly rolled in a long way down the line.

[versed merlin]

I runn my dedicated server on a Linux box here in my house, and use the SteamCMD method to install and update/validate the game files as needed.

All automated and set-it-and-forget-it

[granite basalt]

Very sensical. Agreed this could be covered by the community. Often times its good quality and that much less work on the dev I presume. Of course, it would be appreciated either way. Still, dedis are very appreciated and working so this is good enough for me