dedicated-servers

[quick mist]

may I DM you?

[faint wagon]

yeah

[vapid bramble]

something like

systemctl start satisfactoryserver@7777

[tacit finch]

Ahh ok then. I never saw anything about the auto increnment of the ports.

But what I can say is that its a great server mangement tool there.
Still three Questions:

1. Is it possible to share the SessionID of the Server so that players join the sessionID and not the IP?

2. Is it possible to set basic Server configs in the ini file? Like Password?

3. Are there Server Console commands like /players or /kick PlayerA (to show all connected players or husks and to kick people)

[rose valley]

Switching it off would mess it up for the people who don't want to control the port specifically. What we need is the -GamePort-nnnn option to work and if that is passed, then do not auto increment.

[slim spoke]

dedis are at start all that stuff should come later as they fix things

[native osprey]

Anyone using the AMP version? If so you figure out where its putting save files?

[slim spoke]

this is just way to get them mass pile of data to speed up things

[fickle zinc]

can you do a find / -name *.sav?

[rose valley]

1. We do not have sessions on servers. You will need to give them the hostname or ip.
2. All settings that apply to the game apply to the server and can be changed via config. Passwords intentionally not. Plaintext passwords in configuration files are a strong no no from me. Reason is obv security.
3. No but you can do that from the manage session screen, in the pause menu.

[fickle zinc]

thats how I found mine were saving at ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved

[native osprey]

im not finding anything

I found the saves from my SteamCMD atempt from earlyer....

but I can't find the saves from AMP... but if i hit LOAD i can see them

i'm so damn baffled

[tacit finch]

1. 😦
2. Yeah plain PWs are bad. But thats for admin pws access pws like the one to join the server are on another level there 😄

So Max Player Count already possible?
3. 😦

[rose valley]

max player count already possible, yes. check the wiki

[tacit finch]

k didnt see it there

Right now I look into the possibility into assisted hosting

thats the reason for my questions.

[rose valley]

don't be sad. there's more functionality coming 🙂

[fickle zinc]

So far I've been playing on a new save for ~5 hours and its running great!

[tacit finch]

You programming that headless version?

[rose valley]

You're right, it's not there. Search this channel for MaxPlayers=. People posted how to do that.

[tacit finch]

ahhh k

[rose valley]

I'm a programmer and I worked (still working actually) on the server, if that's what you asked.

[tacit finch]

If I remember correctly Jace mentioned that one or two from the team where working on the Server in a more dedicated manner.

[rose valley]

uhm... he probably meant that someone else has worked in the past but they have left the company a long time ago. it's just me now and has been since I started working for CSS.

[native osprey]

I feel like I'm going crazy. I found my saves from before when my SteamCMD server crashed. I was able to load it up on single player and save it with new session Name.

Now I can't figure out how to take the same file and force the server to use it.

I did what https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_Save_File said to do and it's not loading the save

[tacit finch]

So one Programmer for the Headless implimitation if its just you 🙂

Btw. I'm myself a Programmer but only for Web Applications 😦

[rose valley]

Make sure you are typing the session name and not the save name in the settings page. An easier way is coming soon.

[hoary ridge]

@rose valley any comment on the server being apparently single thread, any plans for this to change in future

[worn heath]

i just sad how i tried hosting dedicated and 0 results like just query not working tried already working ports and same result

[fickle zinc]

I'd be curious to see what percentage of the playerbase are Software developers of some sort.

[tacit finch]

Yeah that would be interesting to know 😄

[rose valley]

Gotta go off the radar now. I'll let you guys figure things out on your own and check back here every now and then.

[tacit finch]

k have fun @rose valley

[hoary ridge]

hahaha

[tacit finch]

😄

[native osprey]

Session name would be "Lethality Update 5" That's what i put in.

[blissful osprey]

Just wanted to ask, i hope I'm not repeating someone else question, but is there an ETA on when the ports will be fixed?

[rose valley]

it's not. maybe not an even split but it uses a sometimes fairly large number of threads.

[hoary ridge]

thanks for resolving that ❤️

[tacit finch]

Then we have a bug

Single User

Single Thread usage

[native osprey]

Thats what I have

[rose valley]

Noted that down.

[native osprey]

I think my issue is AMP's server is saving the files somewhere else, because i'm not seeing the new auto saves

If I load into the server, i can see new files.

[fickle zinc]

Maybe the person that created the AMP profile can help you out tomorrow? I dont know much about AMP

[native osprey]

But these are NOT the files in side savegames/server

[fickle zinc]

hmm.. I started a new server with an existing savefile and now have a second hub parts in my inventory

[frosty gale]

Profit!

[upper valve]

How do i replace the save file with an older one?

[slim spoke]

replace the file with the older one

just go in and move/delete/rename

[upper valve]

So I am able to successfully load the server up, however when I close the server and then reopen it again, on the client it says that i need to create a new world again

the save files are in the folder

What is the correct command to close the server and save it etc?

[slim spoke]

quit/exit

[upper valve]

Aight

any idea how to load the sav by the console?

[slim spoke]

server only has a few cmds

and that isnt one far as i know

[quick mist]

By the console? No, but if you are authed to the server as an administrator, you can use Load Game from the menu to have the server load any of the saves it can see

[fickle zinc]

Check the Wiki

[lucid jasper]

where exactly are the saved games located on server side?

[upper valve]

Which ip does my mate need to use to connect?

[fickle zinc]

I found mine in ~/.config/Epic

[quick mist]

your WAN IP address unless ey's on your LAN

[tacit finch]

still....WAN is not internet

[quick mist]

arguably, in most cases where a person is looking for help hosting or having people connect to a server hosted from eir home.. it is.

[tacit finch]

I've got two Routers for a UMZ so....^^

[quick mist]

depending on whom you talk to, your DMZ is just another segment on your LAN, not part of the WAN, but eh.

[tacit finch]

its dangerous. As you never know the exact topology of the system in question

Ah right in englidh DMZ sorry 😄

Nope using two routers to make it easier to configure

[quick mist]

ultimately as the administrator of your own network, use the labels and designations that make sense to you (:

[tacit finch]

O_O

How could you

CCNA would be ashamed 😄

[quick mist]

gestures vaguely at his imaginary "DOD Model > OSI Model" poster

[tacit finch]

xD

[lucid jasper]

i cannot type in this field, how do i load the savegame? ^^

[wild mango]

hows dedicated servers?

[quick mist]

fantastic for the most part.

[trail tangle]

touchy

[faint wagon]

click the status tab, then join game in the bottom right corner @lucid jasper

[tacit finch]

2-3 Players = fantastic for new saves right now

[fluid turret]

Is it getting rid of what you type in that box?

[lucid jasper]

i want to load my savegame. i updated the server to the newest version

[lucid jasper]

yep

[wild mango]

skill issue

[tacit finch]

There is a bug that the servers are not multi threaded most of the time but else its great.

[slim spoke]

you have to be administrator on the dedi to load thru menu

[lucid jasper]

i am

[fluid turret]

Are you in a world right now?

[slim spoke]

and server has to have the saves

[lucid jasper]

nope

[quick mist]

you sure about that? It's definitely using at least two cores on my host

[slim spoke]

dev made a note earlier about it

[trail tangle]

anyone running it inside virtualbox?

[faint wagon]

@lucid jasper did you copy all your files into the SavedGame/server folder?

[fluid turret]

Why would you do that, I am genuinely curious

[wild mango]

what

[frosty gale]

Start a new game, then, in the server, load the save files

[tacit finch]

Yep I'm sure.

[faint wagon]

@lucid jasper there should be a sever folder inside SaveGames

[narrow sparrow]

So, I have a windows VM Somewhere where I'm running my other game servers. Added the Satisfactory one there, and started it ... I think it's running nicely and think I've added the firewall exceptions, but still I can't see it from my client ... any suggestions ?

[frosty gale]

Don't think there is a way to load a save remotely

[slim spoke]

saves have to be in server and u have to be admin

[trail tangle]

@fluid turret the windows side of steamcmd just seems to be a headache yet the linux i found ran just fine

[frosty gale]

you may need to perform port forwarding on the vm itself, using the VM software

[quick mist]

are you sure you have UDP ports open all the way from your network ingress to the Satisfactory daemon?

[fluid turret]

steamcmd is pretty jank I agree but couldn't you just use WSL?

[faint wagon]

@lucid jasper

[narrow sparrow]

Well actually I meant I' renting a windows server machine somehwere in the cloud. I'm guessing it's a VM. Don't think I had to do port forwarding for Ark / Conan or any other game server running there

[fluid turret]

I haven't actually tried WSL with this, that is my project for tomorrow

[trail tangle]

@fluid turret WSL? i get this : LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Steam API failed to initialize! under windows

[lucid jasper]

created the folder - but still. everything i type in the "Session Name" box gets deleted instantly

[fluid turret]

Windows Subsystem for Linux

[frosty gale]

If that's so double check IP addresses, and double check if you are running

[fluid turret]

since you know windows has linux now lol

[trail tangle]

@fluid turret didn't think of that

[trail tangle]

@fluid turret i'll try that out

[frosty gale]

ok, and factoryserver.exe is running correct?

[fluid turret]

I mean if you are running it locally WSL might be a great solution

[lucid jasper]

@faint wagon nvm - it works now. thank you!

[frosty gale]

WSL is pretty neat if you really want to run it on linux, but it works on windows too

[narrow sparrow]

As far as I can see .. yes

[wild mango]

is it normal that i dont see any servers in server manager?

[fluid turret]

I want to figure out what if any impact there is on CPU and Ram usage, but I will do that tomorrow

[lucid jasper]

you have to add the server manually

[fluid turret]

just like minecraft

[wild mango]

oh

[lofty latch]

Morning all

[frosty gale]

If you aren't able to connect to the server itself, try basic debug things like ping n tracert

gm

[fluid turret]

good night Phonic

ah I love timezones

[lofty latch]

Lol you still up?

[wild mango]

its 2:55 AM for me

[fluid turret]

yes its 1am but I am off now bye!

[lofty latch]

Cya

[wild mango]

I've already slept so im fine

[narrow sparrow]

so it's port 7777 I need to open up to the public ? Or 15777 ?

[quick mist]

yes.

all three of these UDP ports:

[slim spoke]

15777 is the query port u must ahve open

[narrow sparrow]

aha, think that might have changed something

[steady hollow]

gm G/3 & Mike

[frosty gale]

gm

[narrow sparrow]

Added all inbound connectiosn on those 3 ports through firewall

[frosty gale]

now give it a shot

[narrow sparrow]

I think it worked, since I immediately got a 'Claim Server' dialog on the client machine

[frosty gale]

us 1 - machine 0

gg no re

[quick mist]

fantastic, you're in business!

[narrow sparrow]

Maybe an idea to add that in the wiki ?

[frosty gale]

It's the second paragraph

[quick mist]

like this?

[frosty gale]

Unless you mean smth else

[slim spoke]

15777 This is the port that you need to enter in the game when you first connect to a dedicated server. This port can be redirected freely.

[upbeat turret]

do they work on the epic version if you set it up on steam?

[quick mist]

yes

[frosty gale]

yea

[narrow sparrow]

@quick mist yeah but maybe add soem screenshots on how to do it in some common firewall thingies ?

[brave loom]

Hi

What is the recommeded max players? i see anywhere between 4 & 6 just want to verify if this is correct?

[slim spoke]

4

[quick mist]

"how to port forward on each of the 23,537 types of router interface" is probably beyond the scope of the Satisfactory wiki

[slim spoke]

thats the supported players

[brave loom]

Thanks yea as per the docs 🙂 just wanted to make sure

[upbeat turret]

anyone able to guide me through the process dm me

[narrow sparrow]

I meant something like

[slim spoke]

pinned messages has link to wiki page of instructions for dedis

[quick mist]

if you have speficic questions, ask them; otherwise the 'guide' will be a link to the excellent Wiki article

[slim spoke]

dev said they are working on way to set certain ports

[upbeat turret]

trying to figure out how to dowload steam cdm or the satisfactory dedicated servers

[slim spoke]

best thing is notice the color of dev names and roll back and read

from start of room

[quick mist]

follow the link to the SteamCMD wiki for directions on how to install it

[slim spoke]

dev was great helping and talkin

[whole nacelle]

How do you change the port the server goes to ? Sorry completely wrong

[brave willow]

anyone can help me here ?

[whole nacelle]

How do you change the server's IP address ?

[frosty gale]

Change the server IP Address

[grand geode]

Get log information fomr it it will show reason why it didn't start

[quick mist]

what to the logs say?

[brave willow]

where can i see the log ?

[whole nacelle]

I can't find the file though

[slim spoke]

change ip for the computer

[narrow sparrow]

Ok, server seems to be running, but for the time being I still can't seem to connect to it somehow. I see the status of the server in my client, But when I try to connect I get the following :

[slim spoke]

cant change ports for servers yet

[rose valley]

You can. You cannot redirect them. And there's a known bug with GamePort specifically but it changes on it's own if the default is in use.

[frosty gale]

Run the server with 6gb minimum, assuming your device is running at 4 gb looking at the friendly name

[frosty gale]

retry connecting, tends to crash on fresh startup once

[brave willow]

yeah i know, i just wanted to try with 4gb, and maybe rescale to 8

[whole nacelle]

Cause for minecraft servers for example, you can set the server's ip address

[slim spoke]

well ya i know the engine cycles the ue ports

[lofty latch]

@rose valley I thought the server wasn't honouring the command line flags to specify the ports?

[slim spoke]

dont know ask bogdan

[rose valley]

For -GamePort. The other ones are applied though.

[quick mist]

the Query port can be overridden; the others cannot

[whole nacelle]

I wanted to run this through hamachi, to not have to open ports on my router, since it's not mine

[rose valley]

-BeaconPort=nnnn too

[brave willow]

where i find the logs ?

[quick mist]

@rose valley are these notes inaaccurate?

[slim spoke]

all those port things noted somehwere?

[frosty gale]

other port adjustments soon™️

[lofty latch]

Gotcha, I'm assuming that'll be addressed. So many things use 7777.

[upper valve]

anyone know how to decrease the auto save interval?

[rose valley]

no. redirect is a different term to override

[frosty gale]

logs are in the Saved map

[rose valley]

Yes. Just a silly bug.

[lofty latch]

👍

[narrow sparrow]

@frosty gale Thanks .... It seems to have worked now. Looks like I'm in 🙂

[frosty gale]

good!

[brave willow]

i dont have it lmao

i think im to stupid atm

[lofty latch]

I should send the devs a cake. We've been inundated with demand since the server shipped.

[brave willow]

xD

[frosty gale]

nah

are you on linux or windows

[lofty latch]

I wouldn't normally be up at 8AM but here I am.

[whole nacelle]

So, at the moment there's no way to access the servers without opening ports first ? (using a second app like hamachi or else)

[frosty gale]

mhm

[grand geode]

Just raised https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6178fcab831c85205235309a which is a 100% reproducible mass dismantle bug

[frosty gale]

Until ports are open for others to connect, they'll run flat against a (fire)wall

[quick mist]

Hamachi is evil; don't use it

[whole nacelle]

Ok thanks. I guess that was useless

[lofty latch]

@brave willow don't run the server as root...

[whole nacelle]

Works fine with me, use it all the time with minecraft

[rose valley]

Basically forever. You can connect from withing the same network without port forwarding. That's just how networking works, outside of our control 😧

[brave willow]

i dont, service is started with steam user

im just working as root

[frosty gale]

ohh nooo

[whole nacelle]

Ok thanks

[frosty gale]

no no

if the server has a vulnerability and I can rce it I got root access

but whatever floats your boat (:

[brave willow]

huh?

[upper valve]

Anyone know how to decrease the auto save interval?

[quick mist]

presuming you already had SteamCMD installed, there is no need to do anything other than adjust firewall settings as the root user

[brave willow]

yeah, i think i did it like that haha

can i pn you?

[frosty gale]

It's in line with how you turn it on in main menu

set it to 5 it will save every 5 minutes

[brave willow]

or anyone here that i can dm?

[frosty gale]

If autosave is already on nothing has to be done

[brave willow]

I think I missed something anywhere, but i dont really know what

[slim spoke]

15777 is a udp port

make sure they can be opened

thats also the one to start connecting

[brave willow]

nobody? 😦

[frosty gale]

im afraid not

[quick mist]

Better to help in the open in case someone else has the same problem

[grand geode]

Do systemctl status <servicename> for the service your trying to setup i think you missed something in the startup script likeit trying to go to wrong dir or something

[slim spoke]

check the logs and try the bug site

[brave willow]

startup script:

[woeful sky]

Hey guys!
I have... two probably very dumb questions that I hope can be answered.

• I'm trying to get a dedicated server running right now. However, when looking for it (on a Windows-client), whilst theoretically having tools listed as well, I can't see it. Is there something I need to run via the console or anything along those lines?

• I'm planning to run it on a Linux-distro - whilst on the only account, having a password for admin-features. Should that be fine in terms of security?

[grand geode]

@brave willow Means nothing tbh i have no idea where or how you installed it 😉 so you have to debug it

[brave willow]

Service:

[quick mist]

the server not appearing in Steam is a known issue; for now use SteamCMD.

[oak steeple]

anyone here german can help me with the Port forwarding ?

[grand geode]

Working directory has upper case S in steam lol

[brave willow]

the thing is, i dont get it, where my fault is

[quick mist]

and yes, having a dedicted role-user to host the service is good best practice

[brave willow]

y, because i wrote in uppercase like tutorial lol

[grand geode]

ok but paths in linux are case sensitive

So check it is correct

[woeful sky]

As I know too little about Steam - what command would I need to run when using Steam's own console?

[slim spoke]

uppercase in tut is to show stuff u have to change

[brave willow]

yeah i know, so i named the dir Steam and also the working dir Steam

[grand geode]

Does you machnine have that path /Steam ? eg do "stat /Steam"

[quick mist]

Your working directory and execstart paths are inconsistent

[woeful sky]

Sorry - is the way I'm planning it the better or worse option? I'm not fully understanding it.

[quick mist]

is it in /home/Steam or /Steam?

[grand geode]

I expect this happens?

stat /Steam
stat: cannot stat '/Steam': No such file or directory

[quick mist]

your proposed plan if I read it correctly is The Right Way to do things

[brave willow]

I installed steamcmd in ~/Steam (manual installation)
the startup script is in /home/steam for the steam user

[woeful sky]

It'd be one user - but admin-features locked behind a (hopefully sufficient) password.
Thanks a lot!

[grand geode]

So WorkingDir will be /home/steam/Steam 😉

[quick mist]

yes but your systemctl configuration is referring to /Steam, not /home/Steam

[brave willow]

lmao

[grand geode]

systemd uses absolute paths typically

[brave willow]

ok, i think i got it now xD

[grand geode]

systemctl status <servicename> .....

[brave willow]

@grand geode

[quick mist]

you're literally being heled right now; be patient

[grand geode]

expecting outcome to have changed since then lol

[brave willow]

havent changed anything, gimme a sec

[grand geode]

yeah its a case of change script (learn to vim :P) systemctl restart <servicename> && sleep 5 && systemctl status <servicename>

[brave willow]

i just use vi ^^

[grand geode]

@quick mist You running a dedicated linux server?

[quick mist]

yes

[grand geode]

wanna try to reproduce something? Create a bunch of double ramps and mass dismantle them?

[quick mist]

I don't have double-ramps unlocked yet on the game I'm running (and I don't want to skip ahead; it's a community/co-op project)

[brave willow]

which distribution?

[quick mist]

Ubuntu Server

[brave willow]

okay

got it i think

[grand geode]

that looks better. go point a client at it

[brave willow]

AHHHHHH

i hate this

i think i will just do this on a ubuntu server, i think its easier to handle steamcmd on it

this manual shit is stupid

[quick mist]

you are again beset by inconsistent directories either in your script or in your systemctl config file

[grand geode]

You simply have wrong path it did't point at install path. The manual isn't a manual when it comes to server admin stuff its more like "guidelines" your kinda meant to know approx what your doing lol

[twilit fox]

Who's gonna try to get it running on a rpi3?

[grand geode]

not a valid arm32 executable 😛

[slim spoke]

u want a pi4

u need 4gb ram

[quick mist]

a Pi4 is still ARM, it's not going to run amd64 binaries

[grand geode]

its both arm and arm64 if you install the right distro on it

[quick mist]

arm64 != amd64

[sterile bluff]

Hey Pioneers,
what server specs should i use for the dedicated server? How many CPU Cores and RAM is needed?

[slim spoke]

u dont pick that

[twilit fox]

Still not compatible with arm64

[vapid pollen]

are there any cpu requirements for dedicated?

[slim spoke]

pinned messages has link to tutorial

shoul have that info

[grand geode]

it seems to spin on the core...... like 100% usage all the time when running

[quick mist]

apparently fewer faster cores is better than more slower cores

[vapid pollen]

how about few slow cores

[twilit fox]

I haven't looked at the client yet, but if cs releases source code it wouldn't be impossible to compile it for a pi4

[quick mist]

that would probably be less-good

[slim spoke]

goto the link it should tell u what u need

[grand geode]

you probably need to port unity first 😉

[slim spoke]

ram is thing most will worry about

[quick mist]

...why port Unity to get an Unreal game ported?

[twilit fox]

Just get the latest epyc or threadripper and you should be set

[grand geode]

i mean unreal engine got confused for a minute....

[twilit fox]

Can't wait until I move and get fiber... I might setup a little server then

[vapid pollen]

how about a 2.0 ghz 4 core nas cpu

[grand geode]

Was running on an i5 2.30Ghz with 32GB ram as a server. No problems with 3 players (except crashes with mass dismantle)

[brave willow]

ok, i reinstall this shit with ubuntu xD

[quick mist]

worth a try.. worst case it runs like a dog and you delete it

[grand geode]

just fix path in script.....

[oak steeple]

guys when looking in steam library i cant find the server (yes i have toolls selected)

[brave willow]

i tried 4 different pathings, hasnt worked

[slim spoke]

link in pinned messages for dedis

[quick mist]

known issue, use SteamCMD instead for now

[grand geode]

not approaching probnlem in right way....

[slim spoke]

u cant get it in steam yet

[trail tangle]

how does one reset the password on a server

[brave willow]

well, the pathings were correct, im not that stupid lmao, working with linux for about 2 years xd

[grand geode]

Well the path was wrong lol the script said so.....

[quick mist]

I've been working with Linux for 20 years and sometimes faff up paths. That means nothing

[grand geode]

Look "No such file of directory" https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902621736602861588/902823531740553266/unknown.png?width=1440&height=131

[grand geode]

lol same... since like debian 2 or something when we used to install with floppy disks 😛

[quick mist]

first distro was Slackware 2.. back when the package manager was tar

[grand geode]

So @brave willow You got like 40 years of experience here both telling you have a pathing problem ok? 😄

[slim spoke]

probably used hte uncapped version of it

[grand geode]

oh that was a mess lol 🙂

[twilit fox]

I haven't used linux since.. Ubuntu 4

Or 4.1 according to the wiki

I miss that machine.

[quick mist]

back before the versioning was based on calendar years. I remember those days

[rose valley]

in the save directory, there will be a ServerSettings.nnnn where nnnn stands for the query port. Just delete that file.

[quick mist]

..I both miss running Gentoo and totally don't miss running Gentoo

[grand geode]

I have used so many distro for so many different things over the years I have lots track like everything debian, ubuntu, slackware, suse, sles, rpi, custom embedded ones, floppiz, live cd's. Have evne used freebsd, bsd, solaris, vax, vms, dgital unix and a number of other OS's

[twilit fox]

I tried it. Highschool me couldn't figure out a os that didn't install on it's own

[snow belfry]

i tried so many distros.. but honestly.. the basic debian for me is still the best.. no bloat whatsoever.. ofc takes longer to setup^^ but thats part of the fun 🙂

[trail tangle]

@fringe fulcrum thankx

[grand geode]

debian / ubunt(also based on debian) tend to be best... things mostly just "work" out of the box on them

[quick mist]

I hear you. For my time, Ubuntu Server splits the difference between Debian's lightweight and Fedora's bloat

[twilit fox]

That's what turned me off if Ubuntu in general though, so many rolling updates, and bloatware.. that and windows 7 was so pretty

[snow belfry]

ubuntu was good.. but now has also just bloat shit that nobody needs

[grand geode]

It can be slightly better being a dev with it.... than say debian because its release cycle is faster

[rose valley]

I love fedora myself. So easy to get going and has recent packages all the time. Also kinda on the bleeding edge with wayland and pipewire and all that.

[quick mist]

if I were running commercial servers I'd use Debian, but for a personal daily driver I do like Ubuntu

[grand geode]

debian get into phases where stuf fin it gets too old and the tools need newer packages

[snow belfry]

yeah i give you that

[quick mist]

I have had too many bad experiences with RPM Hell to voluntarily use any RH-flavored distro again

[grand geode]

More or less the same unless there like a lot of newer versions of things needed

[twilit fox]

I had an issue with my og rpi where I couldn't apt-get anything and it wouldn't update because it's distro was so old. That was frustrating

[grand geode]

Sometimes though you just want stable like on this router... " 08:55:04 up 663 days, 19:46, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00"

[slim spoke]

my win7 ran for almost 2years with daily use and abuse on an install from 2009 😛 its all about the user

[grand geode]

Last reason for reboot.... power was out... that machine ran for like 2 years before that point

[quick mist]

anyone else remember when Win2000 SP4 was hard-coded to BSOD after 94 days of uptime?

[frosty gale]

good times

[quick mist]

I and Pepperidge Farm remember

[grand geode]

yeah it was tick overflow....

[quick mist]

ding ding

[grand geode]

Windows 95: Error mouse moved? Do you want to reboot now?

[twilit fox]

Iunno about 600 days. My pentium 3 with Windows XP as a cheap NAS/print server stayed up for several years

[slim spoke]

anyways we shouldnt get to far out

[twilit fox]

Damn thing was a tank.. and I miss it, when you told it to print.. it printed.. I have to sit and fight with my wireless printer for a minute for one damn sheet of paper

[brave willow]

5 min in ubuntu ...

well

[grand geode]

ITs funny though when you run like ahome router for long period of time. You look at the packet counter and realize... oh its 12TB. My isp must hate me lol

[lilac forge]

Where do I get the dedicated server and how do I set it up?

[tame solar]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[grand geode]

I see the path is now /home/steam not /home/steam/Steam lol

[brave willow]

with ubuntu i downloaded it in 3 min, in centos just 600KB/s i dont know why

[brave willow]

yeah i know, its because i just installed steamcmd via apt install steamcmd ^^

[slim spoke]

the one month i didnt abuse my net i got an email from isp telling me to remember its unmetered so have fun

[brave willow]

in centos its not possible, before steamcmd was installed in /home/Steam

[lilac forge]

Thanks, I should have checked the pinned messages. 🤦

[tame solar]

just to be clear, dedis are exclusively for the latest experimental patch?

[quick mist]

yes

[snow belfry]

as if creating a server works the first time 😄

[quick mist]

mainline release doesn't even know how to connect to dedis

[snow belfry]

there is always "some" problem somewhere that gets forgotten or messed up^^

[tame solar]

oh, right
and steam updates the dedis install when a new game patch is released?

[vapid pollen]

How sus is it to use some guy's docker container for the server

[quick mist]

yes, just use the same command you use to install to update

[grand geode]

very.....

[brave willow]

so kay, but now in server manager it says "NotAuthenticated" ..

[grand geode]

no way to tell if there isn't malware in it these days

[full vector]

If you installed the dedi through the Steam UI, it would update it. But its more likely for many people to install the dedi through SteamCMD, in which case you need to manually run the update

[tame solar]

and is there a way to install an older version of dedis or does it only install the latest version?

[vapid pollen]

it seems to launch steamcmd

[undone zenith]

booted up dedicated server, and epic version of the game and it worked fine, tried this morning and i got "the server and game versions are not compatible"
ran the update command on steamcmd and tried again and same thing.
anyone else run into this issue?

[quick mist]

currently only the latest

[tame solar]

tyvm DopeGhoti

[full vector]

As with any steam game, you can technically install older versions, but its complicated and time consuming

[grand geode]

You can make any linux process appear as any process name you like by changing the command line arguments after the program starts lmao

[quick mist]

right now I am able to connect from an EGS client to a SteamCMD-maintained Linux dedi instance

[quick mist]

sure thing!

[devout dune]

any news about the server running on RPI? has anybody tried?

[full vector]

dont hold your breath for that to ever be a thing

[grand geode]

"not a valid arm executable" lol

[snow belfry]

you crazy ? 😄

[devout dune]

I think they updated the game version

[quick mist]

not going to happen. A Pi is an ARM CPU, it just isn't compatible

[devout dune]

lol f

big f

[full vector]

Even if they were to add a ARM version, the memory and CPU requirements would likely melt that poor thing 😄

[trail cloud]

anyone still get "server and game versions are not compatible", even after updating the dedicated server?

[snow belfry]

i do have a small x86 sbc running debian^^ i wonder if i should try it

[grand geode]

@devout dune theres always qemu 😛 lol

[devout dune]

please do try

[quick mist]

it would not be a very satisfactory experience, no

[devout dune]

oof emulation + server on a pi

its gonna explode

[grand geode]

I suspect under a pi3 you would messure things in minutes per ingot rather than ingots per minute

[undone zenith]

running into same issue, cant seem to update game version on epic so not sure where the issue is

[quick mist]

"I got the server running on a Pi! Granted it's going about 10 seconds per frame, but it's going!"

[slim spoke]

3 doesnt have enough ram to run the server anyways

u would want pi4 with min of 4gb ram

if u could even do it

[quick mist]

you would want a Pi with a totally different architecture

(so.. not a Pi)

[trail cloud]

my epic version updated last night after a play, and is on 170209 (0.5.0.1). seems weird

[grand geode]

just add a whole load of iscsi swap sure... it will get there eventually

[slim spoke]

would be to slow

[devout dune]

maybe pi4 can do the work

may... be

[slim spoke]

might as well just draw the game

[tame solar]

could the server still be on 0.5.0.0 while you are on 0.5.0.1?

[grand geode]

not a valid arm64 executable lol

[slim spoke]

anyone with pi4 could just steamcmd and take SS

[trail cloud]

yeah seems it, even after running the update command on the dedicated servers wiki page

[grand geode]

so there a remote console for the admin is there a list of command around for this console? like for kick, ban, force save, shutdown?

[snow belfry]

joining localhost works right ? 127.0.0.1 ?

or does it need external ip ?

[trail cloud]

can use localhost yes

[slim spoke]

should work

[snow belfry]

cheers 😄

[slim spoke]

since they used ip

[tame solar]

the build says 170147 so the server indeed still is one version behind

[brave willow]

question to this ...
do i need to enable 15777 on firewall or 2222 now ?? i dont really get this

[slim spoke]

15777 has to be open

[brave willow]

ok i have this

[grand geode]

You need though 3 ports forwarded to server. Unless your local of course in which case use internal ip to connect to it.

[slim spoke]

its a udp port

[brave willow]

the server just has a public ip ^^ so yeah

i just enabled these ports on the firewall directly

[grand geode]

if its a public server / public ip no nat you obviously don't need port forwards. Just don't have them firewalled

[brave willow]

yes thats what i thought

on ubuntu its also firewalld right ?

[lime elm]

A quick and dirty run though of what has got the server working for me and some others. Maybe of some help to get things going. https://youtu.be/8JFw4-KDUr0

[undone zenith]

i guess time to make sure auto update is turned off for experimental if you want to consistently use dedicated servers

[tame solar]

you can't skip game updates

[full vector]

the server repository was updated though, so make sure you properly run the update command and restart it of course

[tame solar]

"auto update" just updates the game in the background rather than only on launch, it's not "turn off updates entirely"

[undone zenith]

ah well then 😦

also did run
steamcmd +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 +exit

but server is still behind in version

[full vector]

you probably want to specify the folder you installed it to

[tame solar]

the wiki tutorial only says that, so if it's incomplete, it should be expanded

[full vector]

update and install should just use the same command, there is no difference

including the install dir

[sand zealot]

I have a question...

What's the difference between dedicated servers and the multiplayer we already had?

[round gyro]

anyone else seeing that when playing on a dedicated server, the status lights (green/yellow/red/blue) for production buildings are not lit at all?

[tame solar]

current multiplayer is hosted by a host player, the host can't leave without kicking client players
dedicated servers run without a host player, the server is the host, allowing it to run 24/7 instead of relying on one person, everyone is the client

[brave willow]

lmao, now i rebooted the vm and i got the pathing error xD

[tame solar]

this has been reported on the QA site so you're not the only one

[sand zealot]

Alright. Guess that makes sense.

I wonder how mods work with this.

[tame solar]

good question, direct that to the modding discord

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @tame solar

Oct 27, 2021, 8:25 AM

[tame solar]

aaa wrong command

[hushed gate]

Ask for mods over at the [official modding discord](#welcome message). - <3 @tame solar

Oct 27, 2021, 8:25 AM

[full vector]

i remember status lights being wonky for clients for a long time, i wonder if its just the same thing still 🙂

[tame solar]

top post for 170147

[round gyro]

ah, lol, I sorted by newest earlier today and was confused that no one else was seeing this - turns out the QA website remembers your searches and autofills them? It was re-running a search I did a few months ago.

[tame solar]

yeah, it remembers the search, it's wonky

[brave willow]

doesnt work eiter lmao

[odd prairie]

mods don't work yet

[warm linden]

uhh i dont have a dedicated server option in my steam libery ? 🤔

[slim spoke]

pinned messages

u have to use steamcmd

[timid slate]

"You can install the server from your steam library like you would install any other game. You might have to change your steam library filters to include tools but other than that the process does not differ from any other game." - https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[warm linden]

ok thanks

[warm linden]

its not in my steam libery at all thats why i was asking because the first dedicated video said it would be in my steam libery under tools .. but its not 🤔

[full vector]

they'll probably work on that today, in the meantime get it from steamcmd ... personally i find that favorable for servers anyway, but i guess thats just taste 😄

[warm linden]

ohh i look really forward to dedicated servers ... i am thinking about starting and updating my old windows machine for this ^^

[slender idol]

Anyone figure out how to force the savedir to a location that isn't ~/Epic?

[full vector]

just make a symlink to move it to where you want it? 😄

[slender idol]

If I wanted to symlink it, I'd symlink it 😛

I want what every other DS has where the save is either in the working directory, or you can specify it 😛 haha

[twin widget]

Steam isn't showing it rn, use SteamCMD

[full vector]

"every other" is a bit too all-encompassing, definitely had various already that stored it in some home folder already, but sure, i'm sure they will add some options to control the save location

[brave willow]

i dont have the folder "server" in SaveGames .. just create it ?

[warm edge]

I have a noob question. This is just for those that already have Satisfactory installed, right? Not a stand alone server?

[tame solar]

it is standalone

[full vector]

Its specifically for a stand-alone server

[warm edge]

It is? Cool. Must have misunderstood the wiki page.

[tame solar]

current multiplayer is hosted by a host player, the host can't leave without kicking client players
dedicated servers run without a host player, the server is the host, allowing it to run 24/7 instead of relying on one person, everyone is the client

[full vector]

Did anyone confirm yet if machines stop or just keep running when its empty?

[slim spoke]

pretty sure they said it would pause

[frosty gale]

There's a setting

[slim spoke]

havent seen anyone test it though

[fringe fossil]

did someone already make a community server?

[slim spoke]

few had testers up

but noone is really going to make a public server and give out to the world to screw with

there isnt full controls yet

[tame solar]

the game still has no griefer protection, does it

[slim spoke]

nope u let them in they can do whatever

[frosty gale]

I mean, there are anarchist servers for many games with no protection and open access. That can be fun too.

[tame solar]

they should add a "no touch" mode where you can't build or dismantle, or possibly even access containers

[slim spoke]

go ahead waste ur cpu on a server for that lol

ondar they will .. they just want to get stable and such first

[fringe fossil]

would be kinda fun to see how many players the game can handle

[slim spoke]

then get to features

[tame solar]

world record achieved in U3 was 59 players in one session, would be interesting to try again and see if it has changed

[fringe fossil]

nice

[grand geode]

I am going to try this tonight got a stable server running got it set to 16 atm but only have 3 people

[slim spoke]

ya but in a way its a fail since the engine should support 128 people standing there

[grand geode]

but wanted people who are prepared to play for longer... not just like empty world see how many people can connect kinda deal

[slim spoke]

you wont be able to build with that many

[grand geode]

try to do something more cordinated. I suspect it going to be like hearding cats lol

[fringe fossil]

true

idk I'm really looking forward to big community servers

[slim spoke]

ya herding sheep while ur blindfolded and using screenshots as reference

[fringe fossil]

I think the modding community is going to be on fire in the next couple of weeks

[grand geode]

Yeah which don't apply any more because the contents of the world changed immediatly after the screenshot

[slim spoke]

hahah ya

[brave willow]

3 cores and 4gb ram be like

la rising fast atm xD

[rotund plume]

Hi peeps,
trying to run a dedicated server thru Steamcmd.
Running on debian.

when trying to start the server with:
./FactoryServer.sh
I get this error:
Illegal instruction

has anyone else got this error or something like it. kinda got me confused :/

[grand geode]

What cpu you running it on?

and is it a vm?

[brave willow]

and then its killing itself

lmao

[rotund plume]

amd opteron 6164 and not a vm just debian

[grand geode]

hum might be too old a cpu. cat /proc/cpuinfo and look at the flags will tell you what op codes are supported. It may not have vertain things the game engine wants to use in instruction codes hence why you get illegal instruction

[rotund plume]

(2 cpu's btw)

[full vector]

oh my thats a sorta old CPU

illegal instruction would indicate that it might want an instruction set those old CPUs dont support

possibly AVX

[fringe fossil]

mf has two 12 core cpu running

[brave willow]

you think 4vCPU and 8 GB of RAM is enough?

[grand geode]

Like a i5 is oging to support these instructions lol flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm mpx rdseed adx smap clflushopt intel_pt xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp md_clear flush_l1d

[full vector]

2 11 year old CPUs, you can get that from ebay for cheap if you want

[rotund plume]

fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mm
xext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_t
sc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid amd_dcm pn
i monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_
legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skini
t wdt nodeid_msr hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter

these?

[grand geode]

yeah those the log may also indicate what instruction broke.....

[brave willow]

or better 4vCPU and 16GB of RAM?

[rotund plume]

any idea where the log is because I couldn't find it tbh

[grand geode]

So that is missing things like avx2

[full vector]

my guess would be either AVX or SSE4.1

[grand geode]

actually look at end of dmesg.....

[grand geode]

yeah mine too 🙂

[grand geode]

they are cheap cause they don't run modern stuff lol 😄

[full vector]

indeed

[rotund plume]

yeah got them from a friend who got them from his work ages ago

[full vector]

also for game hosting in particular, they have terrible single-thread performance, which is often crucial for game servers ---- granted, no clue yet if that translates to satisfactory, but chances are it will

[grand geode]

Originally made in 2007 lol so really 14 years old now

[fringe fossil]

does anyone know if there will be mod support for the servers rn?

when mods come out

for u5

[grand geode]

If you type dmesg or look in logs from the game server it might indicate what the instruction was it chocked on but either way i think you have a hardware problem to resolve

[grand geode]

not on exp but take it to modding discord. Probably enough "problems" without mods being involved

[rotund plume]

yeah kinda thinking so too now, thanks for the help!

[full vector]

you can open an issue on the QA site and ask if they have plans to support older hardware, but truth be told, those are likely not going to run the server at a really good performance anyway

[vestal adder]

I haven't had a chance to try hosting a server yet, does the factory still run if no clients are connected and the server is still running?

[grand geode]

theres a setting for that to turn on / off if no players connected

[full vector]

I'm told there is an option to toggle that

[slim spoke]

waiting for someone to test it

[vestal adder]

nice, thanks

[lofty latch]

That Opteron chip doesn't support SSE4 instructions - so it is indeed too old

that might not be the end of the road though

you could use qemu-user to emulate just the missing instructions

[full vector]

the chip was already not very fast to begin with, adding emulation would just kill whatever remains 😄

[grand geode]

and start measuring minutes per ingot 😛

[lofty latch]

well you're only emulating a handful of instructions rather than the entire thing, but yes it would be a performance hit

I might try out the server on a Pi 4 8GB with user mode emulation for x86_64 to see if it'll run

Factorio works this way, actually performs OK too

[fringe fossil]

if this really works on a Pi then I'll eat my cake

[rotund plume]

don't mind bad performance tbh I kinda like just trying to set it up and if it runs decently I'd be more than glad already

[full vector]

any other unreal engine server I have ever hosted wants a really nice CPU to run decently, but i would be happy to be proven wrong 😄

[slim spoke]

read how he would do it lol

[brave willow]

finally I got it ... uff

[fringe fossil]

is there a way to hide your IP if you wanted to host a server on your own network?

like for example duck dns

[lofty latch]

DNS is just a way of pointing to an IP address

[fringe fossil]

or smth I'm not rly into that kinda stuff

[slim spoke]

dont give out ur info

[lofty latch]

it doesn't hide anything

[grand geode]

The moment a c/c++ compiler gets the optimizations options for things like sse4 it will throw the instructions anywhere it can in code....

[slim spoke]

there is no server lists

[full vector]

if its on your own network, noone can really do anything with your internal IP

[fringe fossil]

yeah but I wanna give it out to you guys so we can see how it runs

[grand geode]

its kinda required other people know your address to be able to get to your machine

[fringe fossil]

yeah thought so

[grand geode]

its like expecting a package without giving the other person where you live lol

[fringe fossil]

well I'd just get it from the post office then

[grand geode]

But you could like pay for a server outside your house and host it there...... and then you give them that address

[fringe fossil]

uhhh (nice) reference

[nimble harness]

day 2 still trying to understand this stuff and the coffee is not helping

[fringe fossil]

the coffee need some milk

[woeful sky]

I'm planning to do that myself - but ultimately that's a no.
Either way, the traffic will be routed through your network, thereby your hardware and thereby your IP-address'.
You can try to disguise it via a URL or other link - but honestly, any person with a somewhat basic knowledge of coding could simply extract the IP from the link.

[fringe fossil]

just doing a ping I guess

[nimble harness]

my router has port forward and port trigger which one do i augment?

[twilit fox]

Even the amd fx series supports avx not sure one of those would make a good server tho

[slim spoke]

forward

[nimble harness]

have not needed to do this since ventrilo days

[sage python]

Is there a way to get the dedicated server off steam without buying satisfactory on steam as I only have the game on epic?

[slim spoke]

15777 is the important udp port u need

use steamcmd in pinned messsages

[full vector]

Stormyskitten, use SteamCMD, check the wiki link in the pins

[sage python]

Ok thx

[woeful sky]

Honestly, if you have reason to trust the other players (and their connection) you should be fine.
Ultimately, beyond somewhat intensive network security, there's little you can do if the other end is competent enough.

[slim spoke]

once they fix it .. u will be able to get in library so it updates

[fringe fossil]

well no one should trust random persons on the internet

[woeful sky]

I'm not going to disagree on that.

There's a line that needs to be drawn, though - if you want Pentagon-level security, sure, you can spend that amount of money on it if you want... but even that is not invulnerable.

[raven flame]

Hi!
Will modded worlds work on the new dedicated servers?

[slim spoke]

no

[raven flame]

Is there a way 2 make them? Or not yet?

[fringe fossil]

yeah but then just being killed on the street is more likely

[woeful sky]

To my knowledge the mod-client isn't currently working with the server-clients... but don't quote me on that.

[echo glacier]

Do you need to buy satisfactory through steam to setup a dedicated server?

[lofty latch]

No

[raven flame]

Kk ty

[slim spoke]

pinned messages

[woeful sky]

No.

[sharp fulcrum]

Thank you!

[fringe fossil]

sometimes just read through the tutorials online peeps

[woeful sky]

It's "free" and can, in theory, be run through the regular Steam or Linux client.
For security reasons special treatment can be recommended, though.

[sharp fulcrum]

Reading documentation? Pssh nah, waste of time /s

[slim spoke]

they just have to fix the dedi listing in library so it actually shows for people

[fringe fossil]

ok tbh I'm that person too :))

[slim spoke]

then everyone can get it and it updates

[woeful sky]

This is the internet - something that is expected to be perfect whilst being the opposite.
I stopped expecting people to read the manual a while ago... I think.

[steep cave]

did someone know what is the timeout (~1min classic) for a connection to a dedicated server ? Is there a way to change this value ?

[slim spoke]

probably not .. server is limited in what u can do

they are just getting it all going before adding options for changing stuff

[trail lichen]

Anyone knows when dedicated servers will be available on steam?
Currently steamCMD is just doing nothing. ô.o

[slim spoke]

pinned messages u can get now

[steep cave]

they give the exact command in the wiki

[fringe fossil]

im just now downloading the server via steamcmd

[slim spoke]

unless devs are doing stuff maybe

[woeful sky]

Theoretically now - if you manage to install it on the regular Steam client, which isn't a piece of cake.

*if it's even possible

[steep cave]

let's hope the connection will be fine between Canada and France 😅

[fringe fossil]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

[woeful sky]

I mean... the ping might be a little poor... but as long as the bandwidth exists... it should be fine.

[trail lichen]

got it on epic - but as they said on stream yesterday you should be able to download the server on steam even if you don't have the game there.

[slim spoke]

follow the link in the pinned messages

its a list of instructions to download and install .. with the command lines to copy

[trail lichen]

not helpful

[fringe fossil]

im sry it worked for me

[steep cave]

same here work perfectly fine

i did it this way yesterday

[twilit fox]

Something that comes to mind with sercuity is "locks keep the honest people honest"

[undone zenith]

you need steamcmd installed for the command to work

[slim spoke]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

translate that page ... it has the command line you just copy and put in steamcmd

[wraith pebble]

Has anyone made a docker image of this yet?

[fringe fossil]

ok you download steamcmd.zip

extract it in a folder

and then cd to that folder

and then type in that command

[trail lichen]

I started steamcmd directly from the folder where I extracted it to..

[steep cave]

in your second cmd you don't need to write steamcmd cause you are already in @trail lichen

SeamCmd program won't recognize "steamcmd" command cause it's already him he can't call himself

[trail lichen]

yeah I know, but I wanted to show that is not working that way.

Also it is not working if I remove "steamcmd" from the commands...

[slim spoke]

what os are you on?

linux can be hit or miss on distro

[steep cave]

Look like W10 on screenshot

[trail lichen]

is Win10 - jep

[steep cave]

I try on W11 and work fine too

[rose valley]

You need to separate the commands . Login is one command

app_update is another

If you are going to use steamcmd like that. Every argument preceded by a + is a separate command.

[trail lichen]

and app_update is not working.

[slim spoke]

long cmd line use in windows cmd .. and break it up for steamcmd?

[rose valley]

because you wrote it all in one line. break it down like this:
login anonymous
force_install_dir <blabla>
app_update <bla_bla>

Three separate commands if running inside the steamcmd itself like you are.

[trail lichen]

now it is getting weird... ô.o

I typed the commands by hand before and they where NOT working.

Now I copied them from the wiki-web site and they're working...

I just don't get it...

[woeful sky]

Actually - can I just ask this (as I'm not fully sure the answer earlier was fully clear):
Say I want to run the dedicated server on a Linux distro - but have the admin-privileges locked behind a password, would it be equally safe running the server on root instead of an own user?

[fringe fossil]

a classic happens to me all the time

[slim spoke]

the line from the wiki goes into windows CMD window not steamcmd

[woeful sky]

My problem is, I have some issues getting the cmd-client to work... which is likely human error - but I also don't want to waste my effort when I reinstall the client later on a normal client from Valve.

[slim spoke]

thats why it calls steamcmd first

[rose valley]

No. Never run the server as root.

[woeful sky]

Aight. Thanks!
I wasn't quite sure how the permission system works when admin-rights are locked separately.

[slim spoke]

someone hacks server takes ur comp so root is bad

[rose valley]

It's a big software package. Vulnerabilities can be found that could let an attacker break out into your system. If that happens, you really don't want to be root.

[woeful sky]

Let's be honest - that risk is present as soon as any device is on any network.

[trail lichen]

funfact: I tried it on 3 computers here, all the same, not working with commands typed by hand.

Tried to copy-paste commands and it is working.

[worthy crystal]

https://steamdb.info/app/1690800/info/

[rose valley]

But you can reduce that risk and this is one important step towards better security.

[woeful sky]

Absolutely. I was just wondering, as the permission system was/is not totally clear to me.

[slim spoke]

probably is keyboard layout

[sharp fulcrum]

you can't ever make a digital system 100% invulnerable, but you can reduce the attack surfaces

[worthy crystal]

use that link above to easy check whether the dedicated server is on steam or not!

[fringe fossil]

@woeful sky are you going to give us access when you got the server running?

[worn swallow]

did anyone get a server crash with error message "segmentation fault" and corruption of all savegames including the server not restarting anymore?

[woeful sky]

For security reasons and other primary purpose, I won't.
Also - I haven't worked at all with it yet, so I want to see if it works sufficiently at all.

[marsh dawn]

Segfault? that's a spicy one 😄

[rose valley]

That sounds really bad. Mind sharing the corrupted saves on the QnA website please?

[fringe fossil]

alright just wanted to make sure

still hoping for someone to make a community server in the next few hours

[steep cave]

segmentation fault look like memory problem no ?

[fringe fossil]

cosmic rays or some shit

[marsh dawn]

Usually the equivalent of access violation error you get in windows. Could be other stuff as well.

[woeful sky]

Okay this is going to seem somewhat stupid - but say I were on an Arch distro (installing the cmd)...
Would I need to run all three lines at once (somehow) or in a row?

[slender idol]

Ah drat 😢

[slim spoke]

in a row if in steamcmd

[woeful sky]

I'm not even in the cmd from Valve, just the normal console... and admittedly, it's failing at makepkg -si with two errors that... seem semi-logical... but IDK how to fix.

[slim spoke]

if u call steamcmd from outside of it u can give full line from the wiki page

if u run steamcmd then u hav eto do teh + cmds separate

[worthy crystal]

For the people that already made there server run without steam and having troubles making it work with the extra launch commands that were shown in the video, you can make an .bat file and paste in this line "FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended" without the quotes and make sure the bat files is in the same folder as the FactoryServer.exe

[woeful sky]

That'd require me to have gotten to the point where it's properly installed.

[trail lichen]

I give it up for now... it just keeps crashing... I don't even know how to join the server to set a name and password. ._.

[merry pasture]

Hi there beautiful people of dedicated server world. Anybody can tell me if the only way to connect to a server is by using the experimental build only?

[full vector]

yes, servers are only for experimental right now

[merry pasture]

Nice thanks

[deep falcon]

has anyone run into this on linux before ?

[merry pasture]

Isn't this one explained in the wiki?

[deep falcon]

your right i didnt scroll enough

[worn swallow]

i will do when i get it again. i have now updated the whole linux server kernel with the latest updates from this month including rebooting all systems... now it is loading again. that is very strange. i will monitor this closely to make sure this was nothing with satisfactory dedicated server. maybe it was a simple os access error that is fixed with updates...? i dont know

Edit: after 5 minutes it happened again. will upload it to the QnA website

[sterile bluff]

What Server Specs should i have for a good working Server? CPU Core and RAM?

[woeful sky]

The wiki-entry primarily mentions RAM and regular storage - so I'd assume that's the primary issue, with processing power likely (don't quote me on this) being comparable or more impactful than in regular sessions.

[full vector]

at least 4GB of memory, better 6+, for CPU we'll likely need more experience first to recommend something, but fast single-thread is usually good, 2 to 4 cores?

[sterile bluff]

tried it on a 2 core 4gb ram but got errors

connection timout and errors while creating the game on the server

[trail lichen]

Once I figured out how to get a Server to work I could throw together "Recycling PCs" from hardware I have around here...

[steady hollow]

minimum is 6GB rather, with 8gb being optimal

[sterile bluff]

and traffic is this high?

[steady hollow]

?

[sterile bluff]

think about making a server on my work pc at work but if the traffic is high it wouldnt a good idea^^

[woeful sky]

I mean... I'd assume it's comparable with current host/client traffic...

[steady hollow]

It shouldnt have a load of traffic but you do need to expose 3 ports

which, in the context of corporate IT is a Big No-No™️

[woeful sky]

If the network admin(s) is/are fine with it...

[whole nacelle]

What ports do we have to open ?

[woeful sky]

15 777, 15 000 and 7 777 according to the wiki.

[steady hollow]

15777, 15000 & 7777 on UDP

[sterile bluff]

the admins wouldnt know that^^ but yes i cant open ports thats the problem

on UDP?

Not TCP?

[woeful sky]

I haven't tried myself yet - so it's more or less hearsay.

[whole nacelle]

ok thx

[woeful sky]

I'd recommend to check in with the network admin(s), as it could present risks that can not be accepted from a security perspective.

[whole nacelle]

Ok actually how do I do it from here ? Figured it out Screw that

[sterile bluff]

i wont do it on work pc - but i think about renting a linux root server but with high RAM it is expansive

[steady hollow]

ehh not really actually

~20$ a month nvm

[brave willow]

i am paying 18€/month for 4 vCPU and 16GB RAM

[sterile bluff]

where?

link please

[brave willow]

its in germany if this is ok for you

[sterile bluff]

iam from germany^^

[steady hollow]

netcup?

or hetzner?

[brave willow]

hetzner

[sterile bluff]

hetzner i know

will check^^

thanks

[brave willow]

I got the CX41

i am looking for a possibility to shut down the server at night and start it at a specific time to safe costs

i think you pay less when server is shut down

[steady hollow]

doesnt hetz have sustained pricing?

[brave willow]

i dont think so, because i have a actual cost tab ..

atm 0,18€ since yesterday evening

[steady hollow]

hm

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Anyways, #off-topic-tech's the place for that

[sterile bluff]

i cant find a server with such a low pricing

[brave willow]

will pm you

[tawny kraken]

This is interesting.. :D

[woven basin]

do i have to buy the steam version for a dedicated server? i have now the epic version.

[full vector]

you do not

[modern shoal]

No, you can use SteamCMD to install it without using the Steam client

[woven basin]

yes ok i have done that on unraid my server but cant findit

[undone zenith]

need to install steamcmd
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers
links and details on wiki page

though for me anyway epic version and steam dedicated server version are out of sync so cant connect

[woven basin]

thx

[slim spoke]

15777 is the query port udp

[woven basin]

port is not a problem its local atm

[small field]

ummm...

[undone zenith]

aye same error on my end, steam dedicated server seems to be behind epic version

[olive palm]

Okey so all the ports are open but while connecting to the server you'll be disconnecting while connecting towards the server any one an idea how to fix that ?

[sage python]

what do you need to name the .bat?

[worthy crystal]

@sage pythonjust like startserverbat.bat

[sage python]

ok thx

[full vector]

the key is, the name is irrelevant, you choose it 🙂

the content is important

[worthy crystal]

yep

[sage python]

ok

i run the .exe but nothing happens

[worthy crystal]

double click the .bat file not the FactoryServer.exe

[chilly cargo]

how many people can join a dedicated server?

[worthy crystal]

4 is most stable

[waxen crescent]

hi guys, i need help, if i open factoryserver.exe nothing happening then, can someone help me ? thx

[steady hollow]

open cmd in the folder and run FactoryGame.exe -log -unattended

[meager summit]

Make sure to read the wiki guys :p

[woeful sky]

AFAIK there's no hard cap - however, 4 is the recommended maximum.

[slim spoke]

4 is supported players

above that good luck cause 4 isnt working that good

[small field]

I still dont see the dedicated servers on steam ??

[woeful sky]

True - there's just no hard cap like in many other titles.

[slim spoke]

pinned msgs

its not in library yet

128 is engine limit

[meager summit]

Theyre looking into it afaik based on their twitter thread, will have to keep an eye out

[waxen crescent]

ok thx i will try at home, i can share screen cause i want it right

[slim spoke]

there is link to wiki with instructions and cmd lines

[woeful sky]

I'm personally struggling at two points in the installation process... and I'm not even close to getting the actual server-files.

[gaunt wyvern]

Does anyone know if there is a fix or a workaround for the dedicated servers giving game version and server incompatible?

[sand meteor]

Update Server maybe?

[slim spoke]

have to man update server maybe

[gaunt wyvern]

Already did that.

[tame solar]

did the server actually update though?

[slim spoke]

update game?

[gaunt wyvern]

Updated Both

[tame solar]

send a screenshot of the server starting up

[slim spoke]

check bug site

[undone zenith]

checked bug site and all it said was to run update command on two posts that are now closed

[gaunt wyvern]

Tried to update once again. Already updated.

[steady hollow]

steam or epic?

[gaunt wyvern]

Steam

[steady hollow]

whats your build number?

in client

[gaunt wyvern]

let me load up again

[steady hollow]

huh, weird

[rocky sentinel]

Make sure the force_install_dir you used to install the application is the same when you update.

[gaunt wyvern]

Going to delete it and try from scratch I guess.

[undone zenith]

dedicated server seems to be v-170147

[steady hollow]

so the server is behind

cool

[rocky sentinel]

I'm seeing this in the log: LogInit: Compatible Engine Version: 4.26.1-170209+++FactoryGame+main

I just ran an update as well

[gaunt wyvern]

Just entirely deleted the dedi server, reset the path, installed and verified. Same thing.

[grand geode]

stuff gets cached either way one of your systems is old its probably the client side

Your isp may also be caching things

[slim spoke]

steam client?

[gaunt wyvern]

Yes steam

[slim spoke]

probably is the mp bug

[gaunt wyvern]

Clearing caches and flushed dns

mp bug? you mean the one where it tries to force you to log into epic?

[slim spoke]

it doesnt do that

read teh page sometime

[frosty rivet]

are there ppl rn whit an dedicated server?

[gaunt wyvern]

Well pardon me for not having read all entries in the hour i've been awake. 🙂

[grand geode]

yes....

[slim spoke]

its just telling u that steam uses eos and linking lets u see steam/epic users across platform

[frosty rivet]

kk ye i am looking to be part of one and be active so

[grand geode]

I will dm

[frosty rivet]

aight

[slim spoke]

the mp thing for eos isnt new today and i did say read sometime

[frosty rivet]

tysm

[neat pasture]

yeah started mine up right after the update

[gaunt wyvern]

Not sure how that effects the version mismatch between the dedicated servers and client version. Given that it was running and stable 12 hours ago.

[neat pasture]

anyone figure out how to increase population cap?

[slim spoke]

check the bug site

[waxen crescent]

ok, so if i double click FactoryServer.exe nothing happening as i wrote before, i tried to update and same

[hushed garnet]

can i host a dedicated server on a vps?

[slim spoke]

Search this channel for MaxPlayers=

yes

[rocky sentinel]

Yes, I've got mine on a Linux KVM running inside docker

[hushed garnet]

docker?

[meager summit]

We said before that you need to add the launch commands -log -unattended i believe?

[rocky sentinel]

docker is a container for running applications, it's not necessary to run this. You can run it on a regular Linux/Windows VPS no problem

[hushed garnet]

ahh ok

[waxen crescent]

i'am stupid, but how ?

[gaunt wyvern]

So an update.
Flushed DNS, deleted the entire server software, ran through the install once again. Now the software is entirely up to date and allows me to connect. 👍

Appears it may have something to do with caching with SteamCMD/DNS. But it is working now.

[slim spoke]

copy teh cmd from the wiki

[meager summit]

I think the wiki says but its easy enough in steam. Its in the game properties section

[waxen crescent]

i am on epic games

[meager summit]

Epic doesnt have the dedicated server

[chilly cargo]

anyone got a server I could join?

[meager summit]

It should be in your steam librsry or however steamCMD does it but idk anything about that method (its in the wiki)

[sage python]

ahhh ok thx

[slim spoke]

its not in library of steam yet ..they have to fix the listing

[olive palm]

okey so appearnly after connecting the server you're getting disconnect right away and afther that i'm getting this error in the console

[slim spoke]

u plan to give out ips and such

[meager summit]

#looking-for-group-old (:

[next sorrel]

hello guys, if i give my friend the server passwort where can he put it in to get admim permissions

[slim spoke]

u just told everyone how to connect to ur server

[meager summit]

The ips are censored from what i can see

They wrote them out i mena

[slim spoke]

86 81 64 33

[olive palm]

well be mine quest it won't work otherways i wouldn't even post it here

[slim spoke]

letting u know cause if u give out the info and get it fixed anyone can go and do anyting on it

[meager summit]

You cant really do much with just an ip but its something to be careful of

[slim spoke]

thats how u connect to dedis

[olive palm]

well without a password you just can't

[sage python]

if you have someone's ip u can ddos them

[meager summit]

Might be suggested not to post logs then lol

[slim spoke]

ok have fun

[meager summit]

Back to your thing rowdy, have a quick scan on the QA site, might not be dedi specific based on the error

Looks like the average EOS errors for regular multiplayer

My guess would be port forwarding, maybe

[slim spoke]

it says invalid ID

[meager summit]

Hard to read on mobile :')

[olive palm]

well that's it all my portforwarding ports are open

[slim spoke]

3rd white line from bottom in ur pic

[olive palm]

The QA site is just the wiki right ?

[slim spoke]

cause u keep spamming that dumb pic

[rustic lodge]

Sticker*

[meager summit]

Looks like you dont gave connection at all, lots of invalid things and doesnt have an ip

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Oct 27, 2021, 11:36 AM

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @slim spoke

[rustic lodge]

Bru

[slim spoke]

2 diff places

[steady hollow]

Sanctum take a chill pill and calm down

[meager summit]

Wiki first, if still having issues, check the QA site

[slim spoke]

guy asked is qa the same as wiki

[meager summit]

So?

[slim spoke]

read above u

[south current]

So has anyone seen Nodecraft's Tweet. Instantly create your own Satisfactory dedicated server with Nodecraft!

[slim spoke]

keep doing that ..thats why they killed pics in satis room

everyone will love u then

[steady hollow]

cool! maybe less people will try to selfhost

[rustic lodge]

It's a sticker not a picture

[steady hollow]

I did get 6-7 DMs of people asking me to host them a server

[meager summit]

People will get it eventually dw

[steady hollow]

as if I bloody can, I barely load satis on my own PC

[slim spoke]

its not satisfactory

[rustic lodge]

K

[winged sonnet]

There are quite a few places to rent a server that I've seen

[steady hollow]

Only heard of AMP that does proper hosting

[olive palm]

can you give me a link to the site then because i did everything already from wiki which doesn't work XD

[winged sonnet]

I just bought one from Pingperfect, seems to work fine

[meager summit]

Its the first release of dedis, i wouldnt expect most things to be workjng jusy then

[hushed gate]

@olive palm - You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @meager summit

Oct 27, 2021, 11:40 AM

[small field]

have a look into pterodactyl panel, its free

[steady hollow]

bet your ass I have, I just havent seen any satisfactory dedi eggs

(yet)

[rocky sentinel]

I made a ptero egg, works pretty well

[worthy forge]

Who else has the issue that the Dedicated Server isn't listed in the Steam Client which foces you to install it via steamcmd?

[small field]

FOR pterodactyl panel

[slim spoke]

library doesnt list server yet

use pinned messages

why spam that shit

[marsh dawn]

<@&387163995947270144> this sticker spam...

[slim spoke]

people are in here for a reason

[rustic lodge]

2 stickers

How is that spam

[steady hollow]

both of you, calm down

[slim spoke]

its the same one u do everytime u come

[meager summit]

Arent we up to 3 now? And your using them with no context and as a "meme"

[steady hollow]

stickers are off-topic but sanctum cut the toxicity

[rustic lodge]

Lmao

[slim spoke]

its called talking to bad u dont like it

[rustic lodge]

Spam would be me posting 60 stickers in 5 seconds

[slim spoke]

anyways

[steady hollow]

there's helpful discussion and there's there toxic rambling. guess which one of the 2 you're doing

[slim spoke]

dont need the drama instead

[frosty gale]

SetEnvironmentVar not implemented for this platform: SteamAppId = 526870
please take me to how can i solution that

[meager summit]

I believe bogdan said that is safe to ignore

[loud saddle]

Spam is anything unwanted

[meager summit]

Stickers are annoyingly big too lolz

[frosty gale]

If it pops up like that, I wouldn't care, but the server turns off right away

[meager summit]

I only see them as circumventing no embeds/images

[rustic lodge]

Then why do we have perms to post stickers

🗿

[steady hollow]

cause of lizard doggos, but you're gonna get us that removed as well

[meager summit]

Just because you have perms doesnt meke it right lol

[loud saddle]

I assume it was expected for people to behave

[slim spoke]

why cant u just let us chat in here and help

[winged sonnet]

send logs, that error you can ignore but there will be somthing else in there causing the problem

[dreamy nexus]

So something odd I've noticed. If I need to change settings on something on the server, they don't seem to stick. Ex: If I change the text and icon of a sign, log off and back on, the text is default. Also noticed this with a train. Couldn't name it or set routes.