dedicated-servers

[icy oar]

i, dont think so, theres no way to "refresh" it

"updater" just means update

[lyric galleon]

So yeah im still here sadly, my first server is running perfectly fine but i cant for the love of god figure out why the second server isnt pingable in game. Things I did:
-Setup the server docker as described in the github repo and helped with on external port 7778
-Setup the firewall to pass 7778 through to the server
-Checked if docker binds itself to the port

[icy oar]

would you mind doing that as well, you did edit 2-3 images, and i cant delete those for you

[deep turret]

maybe you could simply phone call for it
as it's not a new service, simply refresh of current one
but anyway for now, it works, that's what you asked for

[deep turret]

I will

[icy oar]

thanks. ill keep that in mind

[icy oar]

minor issue

oh wait

im dumb

[tepid rune]

If I'm running the server on my own machine then the server ip is just my default address when checking a site like whatsmyip

correct?

[deep turret]

[redacted]
there are still these you could remove for safety, I didnt see any other info

[icy oar]

thanks

[deep turret]

I mean it can stay like that some weeks, if you will continue using it
but if you plan to completely stop doing so, then yes

[icy oar]

alright thank you :3

[deep turret]

did it work again ?

[flint galleon]

would it be possible to host server on raspberry pi 4?

[hidden forge]

No

No native arm support and emulating would make the already minimal performance even worse

[icy oar]

yes, i started the server but forgot to switch firewall to open

[deep turret]

and pi4 is not near enough performant to compensate for that 👍

[deep turret]

oh, so it works, nice !

[icy oar]

also, surprisingly, 6gb ram is somehow working fine for the server

[deep turret]

it will grow a lot later in the game

[icy oar]

yeah i thought so,

getting 16gb tmr tho so it shouldnt be an issue

[deep turret]

when you will place a lot of machines with your friends, and blueprinting sub systems

16GB should let you safe for some time though

[glad nest]

if on windows 16GB will maybe limit super lategame but thats about it

[lyric galleon]

@glad nest thanks for your help earlier mate, i figured out the issue. For whatever reason the container didnt map the ports correctly even though it said so in the webpanel

[deep turret]

now I basically warn that it depends on size, The Dunes save is pushing (much more optimized on latest satisfactory version) to ~26GB from server only

[glad nest]

i know starting to worry that we did not ask about cpu though

but hopefully all will be well

[autumn rampart]

im having problems updating my server using steam cmd, i get the error failed to install app no subscription

[grim mica]

Logn with your actual Steam creds instead of anonymous

[flint galleon]

is a i5-8300H + 16gb ram enough to host a server for 4 people

[glad nest]

CPU is just within recommended so should be enough for a while

[civic lantern]

Sweet merciful crap

[deep turret]

it should be accessible from anonymous

[deep turret]

it's probably going to struggle quickly
but should be ok as a starter

[grim mica]

No shit it should be, but it isnt for some.. cmon mate

[icy oar]

If my i7 2600k and 6gb of ram can host 3 people, I'm sure yours is plenty to add another person

[deep turret]

for some ?
anonymous is anonymous

there is no specific account behavior with anonymous

[autumn rampart]

wasn't sure if anyone was encountering the same issue with updating thier dedicated server

it used to work lol

looked over the wiki; its 1690800 validate correct?

[grim mica]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6767216dc3824959d213d3a2

There were/still are multiple people reporting that it requires subscription, even in here

[autumn rampart]

oof, i like to run it anonymous since i run it headless, and alll my dedicated servers run anonymous lol

[deep turret]

then it's probably temporary from steam

[fluid pike]

alguem br pra joga em duo ou grupo chama ai

[sage venture]

Question (for anyone experienced):

I'm running a dedicated server on my own hardware, with ports tunneled through the router, etc.

So, I have the command window up with the dedicated server running, but also I have my game client up as well with the "Server Manager" section open and minimized (not joining the world itself).

Should I be able to close my game client and leave the server running (in the command prompt window)? Is the game client meant to stay open in this state? Because, when I close the game client, it doesn't seem that anyone can join the server afterwards.

[glad nest]

its a common windows issue

but normally you should be able to do it like that yes

[sage venture]

Thank you. So to be clear, I need to keep the game client open as well for the dedi server to work (albeit, in the main menu with the server manager options section open and the server started within there)?

[hidden forge]

Or host the Server on Linux

[sage venture]

Gotcha.

Thanks again.

Thought that was a little weird. Might move it over to a Linux box.

Has anyone ever tried virtualizing it in a Linux environment?

[hidden forge]

Many people in many different ways

[sage venture]

lol ok

With success? (I should ask)

Would love to get this minimized on resources.

[hidden forge]

Successful too yes 🤣

[sage venture]

Nice. 🙂

Maybe I've got a spare machine around that run it. Can't imagine it needing much power.

[hidden forge]

It does require quite some CPU muscle depeding on how far you are

[sage venture]

It's a big multi-player world that we've been working on for 3+ years. So, yeah, it might need a bit of muscle.

I have a couple of Mac Minis with M processors around I could spare. Perhaps encapsulate an Ubuntu ARM env within one of them.

Would need a x86-64 emulation layer tho.

[hidden forge]

Does Rosetta work for VMs?

[sage venture]

Otherwise I'll find an old x86 machine somewhere.

You can get it to, yeah. Some conditions apply.

I've just got them laying around for Plex servers, one-off APIs, home automation and the like, which they perform flawlessly for. Hog almost no power.

[hidden forge]

Rosetta is quite good. If you can get an amd64 VM to run you can give it a shot

[sage venture]

Yeah, it's an interesting try. But probably not worth it in the end.

Likely too much overhead and not worth it.

[hidden forge]

Otherwise a small VM on the windows machine. WSL works too iirc

[sage venture]

Yeah. Thanks so much for the input!

[deep turret]

wsl have bad performance for some reasons

Also there never have been an extended research about Windows close on admin disconnect issues (at least not that I know here)
it may depend on what address you use to connect to the server locally
and with what server settings

I would recommend using "localhost" literally as address in the game

with -multihome=:: option on the server launch command
that way it does not use a literal address socket

[grim mica]

I honestly think the issue with it is tied to something regarding Epic and Steam linkage/integration as the issue popped up after they made changes to that system. I can readily reproduce the issue with my account on any Windows DS instance I have tried if I am the first one to join.

I just tried 'multihome=0.0.0.0', 'multihome=::' and 'multihome=192.168.80.51' (server LAN IP) and they all cause the server to show offline (despite the service still running) in server manager and the UDP listener disappears from get-netudpendpoint

I can replicate on the two bare-metal machines I have on WinServer 2019 and 2022

[rigid ore]

are there any up to date pterodactyl eggs?

[deep turret]

connecting with "localhost" and not local address ?

testing v4/v6 and local/loopback at the same time
(localhost should be ipv6 loopback, while common local address is ipv4 local)

[grim mica]

How can I connect to localhost if the server isnt running locally?

[icy oar]

is it possible to run the dedicated server and the game on the same pc?

[gleaming crystal]

just run it on some beat up old laptop

[icy oar]

dont have a laptop, the pc i originally used as the dedicated server died on me after i tried upgrading the ram

my only options are either run the dedicated server on the same pc, or run it on a vm

ive got a 7500f and 32gb of ram, it shouldnt be too much of an issue

[glad nest]

its possible

[deep turret]

So you are not using localhost
that was kind of my point
(still a bug, I was just trying to point out where exactly it may shows)

[deep turret]

you should at least be able to put the old ram back, maybe you can talk about that in #off-topic-tech

[icy oar]

Nope, tried, and thank you for referring to another more accurate channel to talk about it

[glad nest]

how long did you by the way wait when you booted with a ram (how do you know its broken?)

Normally pc's will have to do memory training when installing new ram and may very well use a while to boot up

[icy oar]

How long would you say it would typically take to memory train 2x8gb ddr3 sticks?

[icy oar]

It won't boot into anything, not windows, not bios. The screen is just black with a single no moving non blinking underscore in the top left

[glad nest]

i would say it should take less than 10 minutes

[icy oar]

i let it sit for nearly 30 minutes with no change

[glad nest]

yeah shouldnt take that long

[icy oar]

im well aware

[glad nest]

update bios, check that matching sticks are in slot 1/3 & 2/4, check that nothing got loosened when adding sticks, else its just broken

[icy oar]

i physically cannot update the bios, because i cannot get into the bios

[wicked knot]

Google the make and model of the laptop , and add post codes at the end

[icy oar]

It's not a laptop

[wicked knot]

OK, the whatthefuckever it is

you want the POST codes for it

[icy oar]

It doesn't have a way to display post codes

This is what it was doing, non blinking underscore in the top left corner

[wicked knot]

read up on the subject of POST codes. Some are audible, most avoid the display panel

[icy oar]

It doesn't have a speaker or speaker port

And even if it had a speaker port, I don't have a speaker to connect it

[wicked knot]

keep reading. Make/model specific may help

[glad nest]

not really getting anywhere here, only thing i know is that if it doesnt even work when swapping back ram to the exact same location something must have broken or loosened on the motherboard
try loosening everything and plugging it back in

[wicked knot]

Or, static discharge could have bricked it

It has some way of giving info about its Power On Self Test, on the bench, with or without a display attached

[icy oar]

I'm not even sure it's going through Post

Because it instantly went to that screen

I pressed power, and it instantly goes to that screen I just showed

[deep turret]

please tell me you did swap it with power cord disconnected

[icy oar]

Hypothetically, what would happen if I didn't

[wicked knot]

paperweight?

[icy oar]

is it that detrimental to swap ram without unplugging the powersupply first?

[glad nest]

not necessarily but it may very well happen

basicly any work on the motherboard should be done without power

[icy oar]

good thing i already knew that... (i forgot to unplug the psu)

[timid blade]

My GPortal server wont start. Any Solutions?

Got it the ip changed

[deep turret]

I'll give a simple example : you put a RAM stick in, but a bit off at first
obviously you are going to put it right seconds laters
no problem in locking it in, you just let it rest partially for convenience, to better grip it for final positioning
case 1, no power:

well it basically done it as expected
case 2, power :
well, that data pin that was resting on the slided memory slot was matching a main power pin and got hammered in the process, it's now dead
it's very simple caution to make sure the whole circuit is electrically at rest while handling partial connections
I'm not saying that's what happened, but it could still
especially in an older computer where dust mix in the statics, and basically can behave as carriers for electric charges

[icy oar]

wha? hammered power pin?

[deep turret]

no, otherway around, the power pin hammering the data pin

[icy oar]

im confused, the pins on the ram slot arent exposed like that

[deep turret]

they are

it's simply not a problem once the stick is in place

it's all aligned

[icy oar]

how so? ram pins dont stick out of the top of the ram slot

im incredibly confused on how you got to this conclusion

[deep turret]

it's almost free pins

[icy oar]

uhuh? they dont poke out of the plastic bit

[deep turret]

you put a corner in, it touch

my point is it's no problem when no power

but is hazardous when powered

[icy oar]

so, you think i killed every single ram stick, plus the motherboard, because you think i put the ram in the wrong way, while it was plugged in?

how come there was no reaction then? no spark, no soot, no nothing

[deep turret]

no, I was simply giving an example
you touch a nearby condenser and it's even worse

it does not need spark at all

[icy oar]

the only condenser i have is the one in my fridge and thats not easily accessable, idk what you're thinking but its clearly farfetched

[deep turret]

we are talking electrical potential, 0.2mJ can kill

I mean capacitor

[icy oar]

im sorry did you not see the video where linus tech tips and electro boom executed a bunch of electrical components with 10.000 volts?

in the first 5 minutes they tried killing two differen ram modules and both survived

granted they used 12-20v for those tests, but still

[deep turret]

they've tested for esd I'm talking about power
25000 will always jump to ground

[icy oar]

anyways, it doesnt matter anymore, the pc's dead, im running the server off of my own pc instead temporarily, so no need to point fingers anymore and come up with farfetched ideas that paint me in an incredibly bad light

[deep turret]

for reference https://youtu.be/4SjOv_szzVM?t=494

they got it backward basically, as soon as they connected actually elsewhere it killed it first time

[icy oar]

so you still think i killed every single ram module

[deep turret]

no, I just explained my point

[icy oar]

it doesnt matter

[wicked knot]

Be glad it was a $100 RAM stick, not a $1000 GPU

[icy oar]

100 dollars? the ram sticks i bought were like 18 bucks, or 200DKK in my currency

but its still annoying

id be concerned if ddr3 costed 100 dollars for a single 2gb/8gb stick

and i dont own a 1000 dollar gpu, hell my entire setup doesnt even hit 1000 dollars

[deep turret]

anyway, imo, power off hardware for half a minute before handling it is much more important of an advice than whatever magic anti static trinket

[icy oar]

im aware, i was just excited to upgrade and forgot

[tame plinth]

Hi, which host is better for Satisfactory? Nitrado or Gportal?

[icy oar]

havent tried any of them, but Gportal seems to be ever so slightly cheaper

by like, a couple cents

[tame plinth]

yeah

I may go with nitrado, but they been having issues

[deep turret]

this is choose your poison

[glad nest]

Would never touch nitrado with a 10m stick even cant recall a single server from them that has run well with the amount of players they set it to

[uncut rampart]

what goes here?

in the yellow

[rancid ether]

Official Modding Discord

@uncut rampart Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @wicked knot

[wicked knot]

@uncut rampart

[civic lantern]

I think you killed the motherboard or CPU by shorting across pins in the ram slot while inserting the ram. If the computer was only recently “powered off” there is still plenty of power floating around in capacitors to do this.

[civic lantern]

Broccoli

[green summit]

Hello fellow pioneers!

Curious what the state of the dedicated servers are - do we have a container to run a server yet?

[civic lantern]

There are many. It’s has been dockerized. People also use pineapples or whatever.l they are called

I don’t container though. Linuxgsm works well enough

[green summit]

I have a k8s cluster here at the house I'd love to toss a server in.

That's awesome news. Where is the best entrypoint for dedicated server docs these days?

[green summit]

Ya broccoli is great, AND its not Nitrado. So two thumbs up from me 👍👍

[civic lantern]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server

If you want to expose this outside your network I hope you know what you’re doing

[green summit]

I am running a k8s cluster in my house. I hope so! 🤣

But yeah, good looking out. Super valid warning

Im a devops/platform engineer by day the last decade. If I do expose it to others, I'll be sure move it to an isolated vlan or something

I should put it in my IoT network tbh.

[civic lantern]

Either, whatever. You’ve got a fake docker network on a machine behind a nat, in the simplest case. You wouldn’t be surprised how many people find this insurmountable. I tell them to use ZeroTier for friend area networking

[twin bridge]

@dim chasm How come you’ve replaced the previous community manager?

[vagrant ravine]

Belated response, but the easier way to do it is running the dedi server through steamcmd with anonymous login. You still need to connect via the internet IP or the listening port will close when you leave the game, however.

Assuming you can even get people to connect to it over the internet. I've had a hell of a time with both Satisfactory and more recently an Ark Evolved dedi trying to get people to connect. Half the time you can't see it on the server list, the other half the connection times out while loading anyways.

[vagrant ravine]

Are you going to be running it on Windows or Linux host? Bc if you find a way to get it working properly, maybe I can pick your brain bc I have my fiber modem set to passthrough with the firewall and any filtering off, ports forwarded in the router, firewall rules set in windows, listening argument set on server launch etc. and it either doesn't show up on the server list half the time, or when they can see it they just timeout trying to connect.

I'm able to connect via LAN though

[green summit]

Solid advice!

[green summit]

Because he's good at it? Plenty of YouTube content explaining the shift.

[green summit]

I presume, having not lookied into this at all because im still working, that if its in a container, they managed to get it running on linux. So I intend to just run it in a k8s cluster on a dedicated node.

[vagrant ravine]

k8s is what? Kubernetes?

I've got a 13900K, so quite a few cores to spare, but I've only really used Hyper-V and just a small dabbling into WSL2 and docker. I do prefer docker bc WSL2 is such a RAM hog

[green summit]

Oh yeah i woudlnt run a server from there.

[vagrant ravine]

I hear Kubernetes is ...complicated. But I suppose if you're used to using it at work it's not an issue.

[green summit]

I shouldnt be fielding any quesitions about running this yet - i havent done it yet.

[green summit]

Yeah - its a beast, but a useful one once wrangled.

[vagrant ravine]

I bought a Haswell-era Xeon 3 years ago and never got it running for homelab 🤣

[green summit]

For home use its overkill - i just like having a home "lab"

[vagrant ravine]

I'm now thinking of just getting it up and running to donate it to a local middle or HS

So their compscience classes could toy around with docker and splunk or something

Because the extra cores on my desktop are enough for whatever I dabble in currently, and I'll probably upgrade my main desktop to like a 10800X3D in 1-2 years and I'll make the 13900K my dedicated homelab then.

I must have lucked out bc I've never had any stability issues with it, so I'm part of the good 50% of the 13900K chips lol

[solar remnant]

It's easy on k8s: https://github.com/samip5/k8s-cluster/blob/main/k8s/nebula/apps/games/satisfactory/app/hr.yaml

Getting started with Kubernetes: https://github.com/onedr0p/cluster-template/

[deep turret]

this is really weirdly phrased

they said wsl2 is filling a lot of RAM
then you talk about L3 which is a cache and memory in general which is not untrue but out of the original argument
and then talk about cores and sharing
like wth is your point

[vagrant ravine]

I have 32gb RAM on the system, so it's not a big issue, but unless you tweak it, WSL2 is configed to take up half of all system memory (so 16) and it doesn't garbage collect, so it quickly fills up that 16gb even if you set it to start with 2 or 4 etc.

[signal grotto]

anyone know how to restart a dedicated server from the console without needing to touch my server pc?

[glad nest]

if you have set up the server as a service i guess using the console and doing quit/stop/exit should do the trick. if you have not st it up as a system service that will probably just stop the server and not restart. - the nleaving the only choise to either wait for the restart interval or logging in to your server with RDP / SSH or whatever you may use as you have not really given us much information about your setup

[static iris]

dafuq

[vagrant ravine]

Yep. It's been an issue with it for years and MS doesn't feel like fixing it.

I'll set it to start with 2gb and dynamically expand as necessary. Run a single small docker container and after like an hour it will be sucking up 16gb

So you end up having to do napkin math on how much you really think you need for your containers and changing the WSL2 config to those constraints

[peak lion]

is it like a memory leak thing or is there a reason for that

[peak lion]

how often would you recommend a restart then?

[vagrant ravine]

🤷‍♀️

I honestly don't use it often enough to be able to comment on that. All I could do for you would be to Google, and I'm sure you're capable of the same searches I would do

[warped wave]

Hey I have a dumbass question. Whenever you rent a dedicated server space, is it only one game per server? Like could you rent a server with a group but play separate games? Fairly new to any dedicated server space, but I think it'd be helpful because my older PC sometimes is pushing limits playing this game, lol

Like, in other words, are there groups that allow you to rent a space on their server together to lessen costs? I don't think I could afford the $15/month by myself but if a shared space would be nice.

[hidden forge]

One active game per server instance yes

[vagrant ravine]

Generally speaking, if you're renting a server from one of the "dedicated Dedicated gaming Server" companies, it's for that one game, yes. But if you were to do something like have an AWS account, you could setup a number of VMs and spin them up and down at will, using the same server resources AFAIK.

[warped wave]

Ah okay. So set up like a Docker container situation or something?

[vagrant ravine]

But of course, that would require you having a bit of knowledge on dealing with VMs or docker, etc.

[warped wave]

This is going to sound strange but I do have some Docker knowledge. I just suck ass at networking lol

[vagrant ravine]

Yepyep, because (someone correct me if I'm wrong) I'm fairly certain you basically rent a certain amount of resources, and offline VMs don't really count beyond the storage space you're using

[warped wave]

makes total sense, thanks! 🙂

[vagrant ravine]

There may even be VM configs or something out there people share for various game dedicated servers since AWS is a big ecosystem

Because I know for AWS, they have what amounts to a dropdown menu for deploying a whole range of different types of VMs

Active Directory, Tenable, Splunk, Datadog, etc.

[warped wave]

Awesome, thanks for the great tips! I'll give it look at, thanks 🙂

[vagrant ravine]

From a business POV, it's one of the nice benefits of going with AWS over on-prem, even if it can be quite expensive: You can run a bunch of compliance tools against your environment and it will tell you what is passing and what fails and in many cases why it failed and what you can do to bring it into compliance, etc.

[warped wave]

yeah that's very true. I have some experience with GCP and it's the same thing. You get a lot of robust tools to work with to monitor

[vagrant ravine]

So you can claw back a good chunk of the cost in not needing to spend a bunch of billable hours trying to setup and maintain compliance tools yourself.

I still prefer on-prem bc it's a lot more responsive (unless your env is a total dumpster fire), but I can see the benefits of AWS if you go through the training to be proficient with it.

I've never used GCP before, but done a little bit of Azure and my coworker handles the AWS stuff so I've only seen it in passing so far. I mostly use homelab for learning and have to reroll my VMs when I forget to put the passwords into a pw manager and forget them after a few months /s

[warped wave]

Very insightful, I appreciate all of the knowledge! I'll have to look and see what's going on. It might also just be easier to update my graphics card and/or cooling system lol. I never thought about containers, might be a smart idea. I know from my experience with GCP though is that it can get very costly very quickly if you're not careful

[vagrant ravine]

Indeed. You'd have to spec out the VM resources and do the math on how many hours a month you planned to play. Shared resources are far cheaper than dedicated ones, of course. So as long as it's not more expensive than renting from a dedi provider, it should be fine. I can't comment on providers beyond hearing Nitrado is shit lol

[novel solar]

What is the latest info on -multihome for Linux? (Running LGSM) Tried -MultiHome -multihome with 0.0.0.0, local ip and =:: server still crashes when creating a new game

[rare yoke]

Hey, I have a Linux Server with 16gb ram hosted at strato and installed AMP (Application Management Panel) on it and created my Satisfactory Server with that. I got the Server up and running and tried to "create a game" with it, which resulted in the server crashing. I could fix this by creating a game in single player and uploading it on the server. I then played with some friends for like 6 hours on it without any problems. But if I try to connect now, my whole Linux Server crashes, when the Satisfactoy Server tries to start up. Any advice what I can do to fix this?

[vague pollen]

how do you delete a player from a dedicated server? we have 1 player that any time they join it instantly crashes the server. there were fine but logged out when they were dead and now when they try to join it just crashes the entire server. is there a way to just delete their player data and start fresh?

[deep turret]

multihome have almost nothing to do with the game crashing
first of all thing check you have enough ram

[deep turret]

are they fully dead ?

like death crate etc

[novel solar]

From what I have been able to read on this Discord and other places on the web it seems like the multihome variable is the most likely culprit aka the networkstack in the dedicated linux server stack. The server is a vm with its own kernel, currently at 32GB RAM, I could of course assign it more but I doubt that your tip of “checking out the ram” is the right way forward

[vague pollen]

yes

[deep turret]

it always is the right way
it's as I said a "first" step
checking ram use is 3 second inspection

you already checked ? : nice then
that simply mean you already passed the first step
not that the step is irrelevant or something

a nickname does not tell experience
you asked about crash at loading time
I hinted to check ram use as a first step
not everyone knows that ram use is very likely the culprit with this server
so I hint that
now you provisioned it correctly ? well nice to you
you can go forward from that

Also you said "when creating a new game" you're already connected to the server at that point
the multihome already took effect
yet you're not crashed yet

[novel solar]

That is true! I can connect to the server and interact with it, change password/settings etc but when i "create a game" I can see in the server console that the crash procedure starts at the same time i click the button in the game client.

[deep turret]

does it says anything specific ?

do you use mods ?

maybe the server game files are corrupt ?
you could perform a validation check from your installer
(updating command with "validate" for steamcmd, or gui menu "verify game files" in either steam or epic)

[uncut rampart]

Hello i was trying to install via steamcmda dedicated server creating a new text file, and people say to paste this

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

And this install the latest version but i want to try the 1.0.1.3
And the build is 384038
But what i have to change in that command ?

[glad nest]

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[uncut rampart]

wrong one

i need the server version 384038

[uncut rampart]

i think i need the manifest id but i can't find it

[glad nest]

my bad... Thought that version was the experimental build, try this one

.\steamcmd +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +download_depot 1690800 1690801 384038 +quit

[novel solar]

No mods, clean install with LGSM ```Signal 6 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=262162
CommonUnixCrashHandler: Signal=6
[2025.02.10-15.50.53:849][385]LogCore: === Critical error: ===
Unhandled Exception: SIGABRT: abort() called

[2025.02.10-15.50.53:849][385]LogCore: Fatal error!```

Does anyone recognize this?

[uncut rampart]

wait a second, so what's the app id, depod id and manifest id:
i think
App id: 1690800
Depot id: 1690801
Manifest id: 384038

But i think im wrong right ?

[deep turret]

you didnt share the information, there is only the info that it shuts down
"signal caught", one need to see what was happening right before that

[deep turret]

experimental or public is not version, but branch, currently they are on same version basically

[novel solar]

[2025.02.10-16.24.06:550][978]LogWorldPartition: UWorldPartition::Initialize : World = Persistent_Level, World Type = Game, IsMainWorldPartition = 1, Location = V(0), Rotation = R(0), IsEdi
tor = 0, IsGame = 0, IsPIEWorldTravel = 0, IsCooking = 0
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:550][978]LogWorldPartition: UWorldPartition::Initialize Context : World NetMode = Dedicated Server, IsServer = 1, IsDedicatedServer = 1, IsServerStreamingEnabled = 0, I
sServerStreamingOutEnabled = 0, IsUsingMakingVisibleTransaction = 0, IsUsingMakingInvisibleTransaction = 0
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:550][978]LogContentBundle: [Persistent_Level(Dedicated Server)] Creating new contrainer.
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:552][978]LogWorldPartition: Display: WorldPartition initialize took 2 ms
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:781][978]LogLoad: Game class is 'BP_GameMode_C'
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]LogReplicationGraph: Display: SetActorDiscoveryBudget set to 20 kBps (5333 bits per network tick).
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]LogNetCore: DDoS detection status: detection enabled: 0 analytics enabled: 0
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]LogNet: Created socket for bind address: 0.0.0.0:0
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: DTLSHandlerComponent ()
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: Engine.EngineHandlerComponentFactory (StatelessConnectHandlerComponent)
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: FactoryDedicatedServer.DSQueryHandlerComponentFactory (DSQueryHandlerComponent)
[2025.02.10-16.24.06:787][978]LogNet: GameNetDriver FGDSIpNetDriver_2147482186 IpNetDriver listening on port 0

[deep turret]

that is just before it ? you didnt include the "signal caught"

[novel solar]

Yes is whats directly above Signal 6

I guess its just Unreal and EOS being dogshit in this game aswell, I sense a lot of trial and error to get this to work

[deep turret]

what are your port settings ?

do you set ports in commandline ?

sounds like you wrote -Port=0 or something

IpNetDriver listening on port 0 is completely bogus

[novel solar]

./FactoryServer-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame -MultiHome=0.0.0.0 -Port=7777 -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -log

[deep turret]

remove all the beacon and query port arguments

these are bogus

also it's -multihome=0.0.0.0 not -MultiHome=0.0.0.0 case is important

did you use the official wiki ?
if yes, you likely used the old deprecated one

[novel solar]

Yes on Linux it's usually case sensitive with CamelCase and yes I've tried both

[deep turret]

the current official one is https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[novel solar]

So beacon and query is not needed?

[deep turret]

it's more than not needed, it's bogus starting at 1.0 (official release of the game)

./FactoryServer-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame also I dont understand this

it sounds like you are not using the correct location to add the arguments, you should not edit the server files themselves

(they will also likely get overriden on updates)

it's likely you use a mix of old configuration with new files which does not play nicely
and so is a nightmare to fix
if you are using an old setup, I would recommend restarting on a fresh install, on simply copy the bits you want to keep (like savefiles and blueprints)

the dedicated server pre release to after release updates as been a bit broken too

[novel solar]

It is a fresh install with LGSM, I can throw it out and have new one up in 10 seconds.. (I've done that a couple of times already)

[deep turret]

most people simply started fresh

then I dont understand why you have old settings in there

maybe LGSM is not up to date, but that would be weird too

[novel solar]

Is SF using EOS or Steam for multiplayer backend?

[hidden forge]

For dedicated Server none. Direct IP

[novel solar]

It seems like LGSM is not up-to-date... I looked for the ports with netstat and you are correct that it's only 7777 listening

[novel solar]

Ok, even weirder

[glad nest]

sounds about right

[vestal walrus]

my head hurts reading that-

[civic lantern]

Lgsm generally is. File a bug with what’s wrong g

[vague pollen]

how do you delete a player from a dedicated server? we have 1 player that any time they join it instantly crashes the server. there were fine but logged out when they were dead and now when they try to join it just crashes the entire server. is there a way to just delete their player data and start fresh?

[hollow rivet]

how do my friends join my dedicated server?

[wicked knot]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#How_can_I_get_my_friends_to_join_my_server?

<@&1077298315558920285> That section needs to be edited with correct info

[glad nest]

SCIM

[ripe kayak]

Wiki being a wiki means anyone can correct out of date information

[wicked knot]

ya dont say

[cursive field]

Hey there... Does the server run single or mult core? Getting really shitty Performance...

[hidden forge]

Primary single with some multi

[cursive field]

Okay... Then my world may be fucked up....

[drowsy mountain]

there is locked pages

[hidden forge]

why?

[cursive field]

Because my world is really lagging and i got an AMD epyc server

[hidden forge]

your own or rented?

[cursive field]

Rented...

[hidden forge]

then the performance issues can be caused by resource contention with all the other VMs/Containers on the host

[cursive field]

Oh okay... But thats a host problem?

[hidden forge]

yes

and just because its an "EPYC" does not mean its good. can be an older one or clock limited

[cursive field]

okay.... thank you ^⁺

[ripe kayak]

yeah some pages are locked but there's also the thing of not allowing anonymous edits in most cases.

[serene solar]

Hey, i am having trouble setting up a dedicated server. I read the old and new wiki, but my autism just makes it really confusing. Im setting it up via epic games, can someone help?

[wicked knot]

The EGS ver should be easy, same as Steam GUI on the wiki. You will need to configure your router (HW specific) to allow inbound traffic (port forwarding)

[icy oar]

one thing id seriously recommend, is contacting your internet provider, see if they have any kind of unchangable firewall that doesnt let any traffic to your pc. if they do, see if you can get a static ip from them, if not, then you're fine just using your own public ip

[serene solar]

dont worry i just bought a server instead

[icy oar]

ah.

nevermind

i suppose some just have the money for that

wouldve loved to help you set up a server on your own pc tho, its what i do (after my dedicated server pc died)

[serene solar]

If it involves port forwarding I wouldn’t have been able to do it. But either way I’ll shoot you a DM if I ever need help setting up a new server, 14 bucks only lasts about 2-3 weeks.

[tulip oriole]

if your router blocks port-forwarding, you can use an overlay network (e.g. Tailscale, or with a bit of work Docker) to make the ports "look" forwarded without being publicly accessible

(some routers provide no port-forwarding menu but have UPnP work fine; in that case you can use miniupnpc on Linux / whatever the Windows equivalent is)

[indigo wigeon]

is 10gb of ram on apex hosting enough, i plan on i have 2 players( me and a friend maybe also my brother but i dought that) and playing long term and huge mega factories and power plant

[glad nest]

My factory passed 20GB of ram usage before i started a new save so not for super lategame id say

[indigo wigeon]

server or pc?

[glad nest]

its a server yes

[indigo wigeon]

aww man :(

I am not pying this much for a server lmao

[glad nest]

what provider is this lol

that was some insane pricing

you can rent a dedicated server for cheaper

[deep turret]

you can have baremetal for that price wth

[icy oar]

is it possible to transfer server locations from one pc to another?

also, is there a reason why i cant seem to connect to a dedicated server hosted from my new laptop? i redid everything from the wiki, and it still wont show up

[hidden forge]

Wdym Server location?

[hidden forge]

Check ip, firewall, etc.

[icy oar]

checked, checked,

[icy oar]

like, from my main pc to my laptop

do i just download the epic games tool and transfer the save or

[hidden forge]

Ah, yeah. You can just download the server and transfer the savefile

[icy oar]

alright cool, thing is, the static ip i have is still bound to my previous server, how do i unbind it

or i think its bound to it

because i can connect to it via the private ip, but not the public ip, because if i use the public ip, the server i have on my desktop shows up

[hidden forge]

Depends on where you set the static IP

[icy oar]

on my ISP's website

[hidden forge]

Just adjust the port-forwarding then

[icy oar]

ive already done that, do i need to restart my router for it to apply or something?

[hidden forge]

Depends on the router. If it didn't apply without try it

[icy oar]

its an Asus router, AX1800

[deep turret]

you could even transfer server config file (in same directory as saves)

[deep turret]

did you disable other rules before changing/adding new ones ?

both rules cant exist at same time as they are contradicting

(one port can only ever be forwarded to one machine)

usually you simply change the forward rules to target a different machine

on your laptop you can still troubleshoot by running the listening port check powershell commands

so double chek the server is listening and on the correct ports

[lusty lark]

Anyone wanna join me play together from the beginning? I'm interested to install some dedicated server on my VPS, don't know to play with who thought...

[wispy gale]

Hello,
I wan't to host an Server for 4 friends. Is this enough?

[deep turret]

cpu is bare enough (aim for 4 for comfort)
ram is very limited once you'll build more in the game

though you can start with 2cpu 6GB

if running in linux

[icy oar]

okay, can i route both ports to two different ips? one for when my laptop is plugged in, and one for when my laptop is unplugged from the ethernet?

[icy oar]

do i have to unclaim a server to bind it to a different pc? im kinda confused on why my server wont be recognized as open on my laptop

or how do i go about doing this

nvm i figured it out

twas my dumbass router needing to be restarted after every port forwarding rule

i have two now, one for when my laptop is plugged into ethernet, and one for when its on wifi

[deep turret]

oh, because you kept switching? then ok

[deep turret]

yea because your router only really know the interface of your computer, and ethernet and wifi dont have same signature

make sure only a single rule is enabled at a time, because same port can't have multiple rules

that's the only thing that always rules

as long as server is on same port and in same pc it keep its configuration

(if you change pc, you can copy the config to the new pc though)

[deep turret]

you could set a static ip on your computer though

[glad nest]

sorry i had apparently not loaded all new messages

[icy oar]

How do I do that? Last time I tried I couldn't get internet to it after I did it

Also, anyone know what this means in the logs?

[deep turret]

literally it means the server is receiving too old player movements
practically I have no idea how it's triggered

[icy oar]

i exploded 5 bombs at one time on some breakable rocks and it began lagging like crazy

[icy oar]

all good, i somewhat figured it out

[serene solar]

Nitrado just charged me $5 for a server I cancelled, and it will only accept refunds on 30 day or more purchases. I don’t recommend using them but I do recommend using Indifferent Broccoli because the servers are faster, have more RAM, and are cheaper.

[rugged quarry]

ihad similar issues recently

[hidden forge]

Go into Windows network adapter settings, choose the adaptter, open properties, change IPv4 settings to manual, enter the static IP, gateway and DNS (last two are probably your router), repeat for IPv6 if necessary

[karmic merlin]

can dedicated servers handle mega bases in the endgame since 1.0 or is it still not playable?

[wispy gale]

Thx

[glad nest]

in my experience the clients struggle more in the endgame...
When my save file started growing past 25MB the server started crashing 1-2 times daily but that was probably the only issue serverside...
Clients on the other hand could barely walk around the mega factories (dropping to 1-20 fps)
Personally I think my pc should handle it as its a i9-14900k & 7900xt so I think maybe its sort of limited by the engine

[karmic merlin]

ok thanks

[deep turret]

check your network settings then
default satisfactory network settings are still undersized

1-20fps is probably drops

[glad nest]

Did totally forget about network changes after i reinstalled so did not even consider that...
Also did not consider a correlation between server settings and client fps drops
Maybe it woulda been playable then

[deep turret]

I mean dont expect miracles but 1-5 fps is definetely server/connection induced with such a config

[glad nest]

it was anytime I moved inside the mega factories the fps dropped, when i were standing still it worked sort of fine so i guess it makes sense

[reef ivy]

I just decided to use the server i have been paying for, but not using, for like the last year(s). It keeps starting in Tier 2 .. i did fiddle with the Advanced settings - but thought id backed out without making any changes .. and then started a 2nd game - without going into Advanced and it still started in Tier 2 .. and states Single Player ( didnt see an option for multi). i tried to google the issue .. i see others mentioning it but no solution.. Is this by design ?

it must be ...

[urban onyx]

Hi, is does the the game resolve TLDs assigned to the server?
I'm planning on hosting a server locally but with a readable URL which will be directed via cloudflare tunnel.
thanks in advance

[dark shell]

anyone else running SF server in docker and getting Unhandled Exception: SIGFPE: floating-point exception?

[drifting lichen]

Hi guys! So i installed the server via steamcmd on my own dedicated server in my house xd system is LINUX btw 🙂
I got it working. and friends can join etc.
But I wanted to use the HTTPS API to acces the player count. because I have a node script running on my server that monitors games and checks if the player count is higher than 0. and suspends if certain critera is being met.

Everytime I try to locally access the API. I get this error.

data: {
errorCode: 'errors.com.epicgames.httpserver.route_handler_not_found',
errorMessage: ''
}
this is the URL i used
https://localhost:7777/api/v1/queryServerState

Is there something im doing wrong at this point? some config I needed to enable?

[nimble wraith]

Experimental Version Will Use TWO TCP Ports - Players will have to use 7777 TCP Port in addition to other ports. See Multiplayer Network Configuration (Wiki Link) for more information.
So am I crazy, or does this mean that Experimental will hard require the 7777 port?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3UtGdftZbc&t=415s

If so, no host will be able to offer this 😅 Pretty rare hosters provide a specific IP:Port for anything but MC dedicated IPs 😭

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/67af835d2ebda70922e90799 we wait and see 🤷‍♂️ if need be we test on release day xD

[drifting lichen]

Nevermind. I finally figured it out. Thanks for those who might've read it and considered an option 🙂

[hidden forge]

Yes, you can use an DNS-domain to connect to a Server.
It is actually the only working way to connect via IPv6 atm

[urban onyx]

Nice. Thanks!!

[regal heart]

What to do now 🤔 (i didn't start on nuclear stuff)

[minor oasis]

I have both ports 7777 open in my firewall in both Inbound and outbound connections, I have my router port forwarded and for some reason I can't connect locally or over the internet. I am hosting through steam dedicated server

[weak shore]

Hey, i have made a dedicated server via pterodactyl and host it myself on an old pc of mine. Now i cant access the server (Pterodactyl is running the server fine, but in the Satisfavtory server manager the server is offline and witing for a name), does anyone have an idea how to fix that? For your information i use cloudflare as a tunneling service but currently only my panel access and the node access run through that, for this case it would be interesting to know if i can run the dedicated server through the tunnel, so that i dont have to give out my ip adress, so that my friends can join?

[inland idol]

holy shit thats alot of power

i mean im new

so

its alot for me

[sour haven]

From the Wiki
https://i.imgur.com/mI9NtxL.jpeg

Got my 2nd server up and running in Proxmox LXC using Ubuntu template with Some difficulty. But now it runs like a champ! in the server manager I was able to download my save game from my first server and upload it to the new server WOW!!!! The only issue I have with it it did not include the Blueprints with the saved game.... Is there a way you can implement this behavior incase I have to migrate a saved game to a new server?

If i could but im not smart enough yet, setup a sftp to the directory and just upload the blueprints LOL. But im just a noob with Linux and Proxmox and containers.

[hidden forge]

I mean, if you have ssh access you can always use scp to copy files

[civic lantern]

Containers make the easy part, launching the server, easy and make the other easy part, networking, hard

“I’m running this in a container” 👉 I have no idea how to help

[midnight idol]

I have been running my dedicated server off my main rig for a while and now I have a second, dedicated rig for the server. Now, when I try to connect to the server that is being run by the dedicated pc, it says server offline. I have installed everything to the dedicated sever, configured the ports, enabled port forwarding and more. Still cannot get the server up and running. Any thoughts?

[hidden forge]

what ip do you use to connect?

[devout sand]

I recently withdrew $1200 from play2win, used promo code easy300 and received $300
https://play2win.money/auth/register?promo=easy300

[jaunty python]

Hello
Maybe someone can help me. I got a dedicated servers on my computer but when i'm disconect on it the serveurr crash. Do you know why? I see some problem when you got game and serveur onb the same computer but i don't have another computer

[hidden forge]

known problem when hosting on windows. try some kind of linux VM

[inner scroll]

it does that every time the host leaves the game server....just restart the server but don't join

[vagrant ravine]

The only way to avoid that is to connect via internet. It happens when you connect via the LAN ip when running the server on the same box

[sour haven]

goto server manager and add a new server with the new address VOLA. dont forget to check the server settings also in server manager they may change.

[midnight idol]

Thanks! It randomly started working 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sour haven]

cool beans

[hot ravine]

hi hi. I'm here because I had the bright idea that connecting through a dedicated server might take some load off my computer and stop my play partner being jelly launched out of the game

But I've never done anything like that before and have no idea what I'm looking at

[wide iris]

hello i need help with my server

i followed a usefull reddit post when setting it up but now when i try to connect it keeps saying encryption token missing

[hot ravine]

you got further than me...

I'm still stuck at the reddit post

[wide iris]

wich one are you useing?

[hot ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fel8t1/setting_up_a_satisfactory_dedicated_server/

[wide iris]

same one as me nice

[hot ravine]

I'm confused about the port forwarding and if I really need it

[wide iris]

are yall useing the same wifi/ethernet?

[hot ravine]

no

[wide iris]

then youll need it

[hot ravine]

understood

[wide iris]

i can help witht the port forwarding but idk how to get the server to actually let u join

cuz thats where im stuck

[hot ravine]

ah, I think I'll need to run the port forwarding by the man who pays the bills

[wide iris]

valid

[hot ravine]

who will have even less of an idea what it is than I do

good luck with your encryption token

[wide iris]

if u need help lmk

also i think i just figured it out

if u run into the same issue lmk

[sour haven]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[jaunty python]

I try but I got same problem With local or public IP

[glad nest]

you are not connecting through the server manager probably

[wide iris]

Yeah that was what fixed it

[reef ivy]

i just got the bug where flora i chopped down came back .. and i cant remove it and flora i havnt cut down doesnt graphically disappear when i cut it down . although i get the materials and can place object down in the space where the flora was .. very annoying and sounds like its a bug that has been around for a while.

[civic lantern]

restart the server

[reef ivy]

did that once .. no change

[civic lantern]

i had a bug, which mikael mentioned in the most recent video, where foundations that were deleted didn't disappear.

i thought it was the same. restarting restored normality

[reef ivy]

this bug is fun, if you cut stuff with the chainsaw it doesnt go away but if you pick it up with your hands it does ...

fixed it .. someone posted a command to run in the in game console .. worked like a charm ... wonder why that hasnt been patched in ....

net.MaxNumberOfAllowedTArrayChangesPerUpdate 4096

[robust abyss]

Morning all, I am trying to add a couple of mods to my dedicated server. I have installed the mods using SMM to both the client and server sides, but when I launch the server and then try and connect I get a mod mismatfch error.

Is there a different wayt you have to launch the dedicated server to have it enable the mods?

[sour haven]

Anyone else have issues deleting blueprints and having the red outline stay? logging out on the client and logging back in fixes it tho.

[robust abyss]

Nevermind, I disabled and re enabled the mods and then relaunched the server and it is working now

I guess the mod install just did not take the first time it was enabled

[robust abyss]

I have seen that, not sure what causes it but same goes here, logging fixes it. Also sometimes they will go away over time as well

[sour haven]

First server

[sour haven]

I use a script to launch my server so every time I 'quit' in the console it checks for update and installs it if there is one and restarts the game server.

Haven't figured out how to do that in Ubuntu yet tho yet...

[grim mica]

Check the wiki and use systemctl

[sour haven]

10-4

[long wharf]

Anyone running multiple instances on same IP ?

I changed ports, but look's like by changing queryport, i am unable to add the server to servermanager.
Ports are all forwarded

[sour haven]

yes you have to give each server its own ports

-Port=<portnum> Override the port the server uses. The default port is 7777 (UDP and TCP). This is the only port that is used. If the specified port is in use, the server will increment the port number and continue trying port numbers until an available one is found.

so you night be able to add the server to 7778 if its automatic

if not just add the port you want to the CLI

[long wharf]

nvm.. restarted the client and it worked >< no idea why tho

[copper socket]

satisfactory-server | Update state (0x81) verifying update, progress: 47.87 (2063776583 / 4311340261)
satisfactory-server | Success! App '1690800' fully installed.
satisfactory-server | Launching game server
satisfactory-server |
satisfactory-server | rm: cannot remove '/home/mweeks/satisfactory-server/config/Saved/SaveGames/server': Permission denied
satisfactory-server exited with code 0
satisfactory-server | Checking available memory: 19GB detected
satisfactory-server | Clearing old Satisfactory logs (set LOG=true to disable this)

i need help with this permissions the game creates it in docker file int.sh but it dont have the perms i dont get it iv tried everything

[sour haven]

check the file/folder permission Docker will create them automatically (owned by root) when starting the container.
I am NOT a Docker expert I am a NOOB.

[copper socket]

i did

[sour haven]

RUN chown -R youruser:yourgroup /home/mweeks/satisfactory-server/config ?

[copper socket]

yup

[sour haven]

Docker compose?

[copper socket]

yup

[sour haven]

Check the Docker Compose Environment:
Make sure that any environment variables or settings specified in your Docker Compose file don’t override these permissions inadvertently.

[copper socket]

as far as i can tell they dont

[sour haven]

are you mounting a host directory into the container?

[copper socket]

yes

[sour haven]

the files and directories inside might have permissions or ownership that the container’s user can’t modify.

[copper socket]

i fixed that also the dc.yml creates these in my host machine

[sour haven]

sudo chown -R $(id -u):$(id -g) /home/mweeks/satisfactory-server/config
sudo chmod -R 755 /home/mweeks/satisfactory-server/config

[copper socket]

yup dids thaty

[sour haven]

unplug the internet and run the container as root?

[copper socket]

dids

[sour haven]

beyond my knowledge

[copper socket]

mine too lol

[sour haven]

has it worked before?

[copper socket]

it did b4 1.0

i wiped it off and started over afterr 1.0

[sour haven]

I know the wiki has a few suggested docker templates

[copper socket]

i used wolveix/satisfactory-server

[sour haven]

using NAS?

https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/discussions/100
Read thru that, its really close

really old thread tho

[sour haven]

still running strong thank god, I really accomplished something.

[cursive field]

Bro 40 CPU CORES...... WHY?!

[cyan wave]

hey gamers,
looking for a "easy" way to set up a discord webhook for a dedicated server to post the autosave file repeatedly
any help is appreciated

[old drift]

Is that for the whole ProxMoxx or one VM

[civic lantern]

Now you have four problems

[queen minnow]

using linux ? running on pterodactyl ?

[sour haven]

Whole Proxmox view.

[sour haven]

2nd server

[queen minnow]

Ohhhh, i have a few of them as well, iirc my current game server runs XCP-NG instead

[queen minnow]

realized i could make use of something like that so I made a bash script for that, but it just got automodded so here it is as a file instead:

[old drift]

Holy ****

[sour haven]

Added 2nd server to the cluster. I love learning this SH## !

[still canyon]

Ive got an issue where im running a server on linux, ive port forwarded and added the ports 7777 15000 and 157777 all udp and tcp to my firewall. I can connect to my server using the local ip. But cant using the public ip. I do see my friends incoming connections trying to ping the server for some reason...

Anybody here that can help me out? 🥹

[last jewel]

friends getting a network error when trying to join, how can I fix?>

[glad nest]

only need port 7777 tcp & udp

[still canyon]

yeah i read that, but just to be sure i opened all of the old ones as well

[pliant junco]

ùù

[hidden forge]

are you sure your "public" IP is actually public? can you use a portchekcer website to check if the ports are actually reachable?

[still canyon]

i used xampp last week and that worked ):

[hidden forge]

can you friends reach the web API?

[still canyon]

the weirdest thing is just that my friends can ping the server and i can see them come in

i cant even myself, and didnt know it existed. But this is my error "errors.com.epicgames.httpserver.route_handler_not_found"

[hidden forge]

then TCP works but UDP does not

router forwards directly to the server or is some kind of proxy inbetween?

[still canyon]

that was using the local ip of the server ):

this is my firewall fyi

[hidden forge]

wait, can you friends join? and just your connection useing the public ip does not work? or does any connection coming over the public ip not work?

[still canyon]

i can join the server (that is on another machine) trough the local ip. My friends can ping the server, and i can see the pings coming in. But the server appears to be offline for my friends (and if i connect to it using the public ip).

[hidden forge]

you not being able to connect useing your public IP is a router issue (NAT loopback) that may or may not be a router settings, depending if your router supports it.
can you friends reach the web API and get the same error you get? the error is expected and normal

if your friends can reach the web API but the server appears offline thers an issue with the UDP connection
if they can't TCP does not work too

[still canyon]

these appeared out of nowhere. cant find anything about it online tho

[still canyon]

cant access the api using the public ip

[hidden forge]

can you show your router port forwarding settings?

[still canyon]

i kind of just added all of them xd

i have a double router setup tho

[hidden forge]

they appear to be correct. maybe try split TCP and UDP rules?
maybe a router reboot is required for them to work?

[still canyon]

when i turn the 7777 port forward off i dont see any incoming requests after that anymore. plus i never restarted them and has always worked for other games

[edgy tusk]

just making sure because your setup looks like mine and i dont see any issue.
how are you trying to connect to the server?
i had to use the server manager and add the ip and port there for it to work

i dont know tho im a newbie here. just got my server and game working

[still canyon]

used the server manager, put the ip in ip section and port in port section 😕

[edgy tusk]

for the server to work for my friends i only had to tcp/udp forward port 7777.
and you can test the open tcp port using telnet.
if it fails it prints a error if it connects it clears the terminal and closes when a key is pressed.

[edgy tusk]

try connecting to diffrent parts of your network and use the command telnet 192.168.*.* 7777 to see if there is a response or not.

[still canyon]

very interesting find

[edgy tusk]

Yes! Check the 4.200 machine now.

Wait

It says refused. Its probably firewall

[still canyon]

yeah i mean must be somehow

[edgy tusk]

If the machine is disconnected it would say no rout to host or something like that

[still canyon]

yeah but port 22 (for ssh) works

so something is wrong with the port ig

but it is weird that i can join it locally

[edgy tusk]

Perhaps Sudo netstat -lp

Wait Sorry thats debian

[sour haven]

My ISP blocks outbound UDP..... They swear up and down they dont block any ports.....

if the port works on the lan with no problem then it should work if your router and its firewall is correctly ported on the WAN.

Tech support keeps telling me everything is good on their end and the ports open. I proved them wrong by firing up NGrok and had zero issues passing UDP.

[still canyon]

shouldnt it say connected on the left at udp? 😭

[worthy nebula]

udp is famously a connectionless protocol, what that line is reporting is the udp equivalent of a listening socket

[still canyon]

idk what you just said but this might be the issue for me

[2025.02.17-22.50.01:756][ 0]LogServer: Warning: Failed to bind Server API Socket 'FGServerAPISocket' To Address '0.0.0.0:7777': SE_EADDRINUSE
[2025.02.17-22.50.01:756][ 0]LogHttpListener: Warning: HttpListener unable to set desired buffer size (524288): Limited to 425984

couldnt find anything about it

[viscid lodge]

Way to change starting Space Credit balance for dedicated server first joins?

[edgy tusk]

Bruh

Unix stackexchange is not whitelisted?

[edgy tusk]

According to some guy on internet this is normal. And the port is listening.

[edgy tusk]

However this could be a ubuntu issue.

Im assuming it says adress in use. Which doesn't make sense to me because as far as i know, you cant lock other soffware from addresses.
But you can lock other software from certain ports tho.
Is two instances of the server running?
(I know nothing about ubuntu, debian forever)

[edgy tusk]

Accuse them of being compermised and acting clueless about it and send a formal complaint email to consumer protections and cyber reguations.

Dude, Stackoverflow as well?

@still canyon found something about not properly closed previously opened ports.
Reboot Perhaps

[sour haven]

Been fighting them for over a year..... used to run 3 rust servers on the old ISP, the day I switched to new ISP(Spectrum) had to close them out no UDP.

[rich kite]

greetings all. i'm admin'ing a dedicated server. is there way to broadcast a message to all players?

[icy oar]

All players currently in session? Suppose the chat system works for that

Press Enter to type in chat

[edgy tusk]

I think lgs had something

Once i get back from work ill check it

[spiral tartan]

Hey there, I've got a dedicated server running on my local machine. Every time one or my friends or I want to join the server appears offline and I have to restart it. I'm not sure how long it stays up between this. Once we're in there are no issues. Has anyone else seen this behavior or have an idea how I could fix it?

[sour haven]

did you connect to it? Is it the same machine?

if you disconnect from the game on the same local machine you got to restart it.

[vagrant ravine]

Belated reply but, I bought a Mikrotik router like a year ago and have been too lazy to configure it, maybe I should finally do that to see if that fixes my dedi hosting issues. Haven't been able to get anyone to connect for like a year now to any UE dedi game

[bronze granite]

@still canyon Still having issues with your public IP?

I may help you out

[bronze granite]

Shimarin... I haven't heard that name in years

[still canyon]

that is super weird tho that it gives this message but it should work

[still canyon]

only 1 was running for sure, did a reboot and after that started the satisfactory server

[still canyon]

Will try

[vagrant ravine]

S3 just aired a few months ago

[bronze granite]

I just forgot about Yuru Camp

I'll watch it again

[still canyon]

Rebooted both my routers but didnt help ):

[still canyon]

that would be amazing

[edgy tusk]

Reboot the server

The opened sockets happen on server

Wait you said it ran

Sorry nvm

[still canyon]

ive already rebooted it like 20 times in the past 2 days, the entire machine

[edgy tusk]

My bad my bad

[still canyon]

np

[still canyon]

its the server itself

just tried it on windows without a problem

[still canyon]

@edgy tusk got it working with a fresh install, dont know whats changed, but im suspicious about my netplan

[grand kestrel]

Any one know of a discord bot to stop/start server?

[bronze granite]

Sorry, I've forgot to respond you

I have configured my double router in that way:

[grand kestrel]

Think we only need 7777 now?

[bronze granite]

I've thought that

But never worked

So I tried so hard

[grand kestrel]

😮

TCP? might be both

[bronze granite]

I'll never touch it again

[still canyon]

i got it fixed with a fresh os install 💀

[bronze granite]

OS Issue

I'm just glad it worked

[still canyon]

yeah m2

[grand kestrel]

Seems to be okay for me atm hehehe

[bronze granite]

BTW, Satisfactory could learn with Minecraft

I hate steam servers

Always have an issue

Normal servers is so far better

[grand kestrel]

Hot dayum, I tried a couple managers but never got mods working with them so ol' steamcmd way fo me too

[bronze granite]

I just wanna use my network

I even pay for a public IP

[grand kestrel]

Ima under a CGNat so got to use a PF VPN haha

Cheaper then paying for a public IP for myself

[bronze granite]

You're right

[bronze granite]

VPN is a good option, but SteamCMD makes everything worse

[grand kestrel]

Haven't really had any issues xD

Run multple through steamcmd too

[edgy tusk]

You could write a discord bot.
Its Fairly simple to do in python

[grand kestrel]

May have to do some researching xD

[edgy tusk]

There are some discord api libraries and guides are simple enough

I can help you on writing it if you plan to make it open source.

[grand kestrel]

No problemo, I'll do some digging

[normal marsh]

Hi. Does anyone else have low FPS when moving around on dedicated server(4FPS Slide show low), but no problems when just looking around(100FPS+)?

I've tried running the dedicated server as a docker container and the Steam version, both on the same PC I'm playing on and the docker version on a server right next to me. Same bad results in every case.

I don't have problems with FPS when I load the save on single player, even if I open it up for friends.

Is the dedicated server just a sketti code mess still in 2025 or is there some solution to this problem?

Our world isn't anything insane, I'd say it's pretty average for a Tier 8 world.

[edgy tusk]

Sounds like a cpu docker problem.

[normal marsh]

It doesn't matter if the server is running on bare metal or as a container. FPS goes to slide show regardless. The only thing I didn't try was to install the CLI version, but isn't that just the Steam version anyway?

I also tried messing with network quality and even manually overwriting it to way higher values than Ultra. The only thing that accomplished was to lower the server tick rate to 10

[glad nest]

had the same thing happen, but only in the most crowded areas though... The save was gigantic on my side

[edgy tusk]

Never had fps problems even on a fairly big save on the server.

[whole meadow]

could you run stat unit in console command and show like a short video/screenshot so we can know what could be causing performance issue ?

[civic lantern]

What is the server specification?
And how are the networked?

[normal marsh]

Same everything except the day time clip is with the save running in single player with multiplayer session enabled. Server tick rate is typically hovering around 15, but when I tested the server on the same computer I play on, it was constantly 25+. Still just as poor frame rate, so I didn't bother to record a clip from that test.

[normal marsh]

AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT, ASRock X570S PG Riptide ATX AM4 Motherboard, Kingston Server Premier 32 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory, Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB NVMe SSD

It's running Proxmox on bare metal, the docker host VM is running 6 threads, 32GB RAM, OS disk is a 200GiB SCSI share from the boot NVMe. https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server is running in a docker container with 20G memory limit and server streaming turned off for slightly better performance.

Network:
2.5Gbe Host bridge -> Router(Asus RT-BE88U) -> Gaming PC 2.5Gbe

Game/Server settings in the first clip above

Mods incase they matter. Nothing crazy, just things that should IMO be in the vanilla game(Except for Automated Artifacts)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600376814980038659/1340678391141109861/image.png?ex=67b8818d&is=67b7300d&hm=3407993cc54605fcb3685e3d956f25a79b601664e77a11127ebad3d0d11f3517&

[lofty basin]

will a Ryzen 5 PRO 3400GE or Core i7-6700T fare better with hosting a dedicated server for 2-4 people, with smooth performance in late game?

looking to pickup one of those mini hp elitedesk computers, at a low budget. or similar lenovo, dell model.

[cinder sparrow]

I've been hosting game servers for a few years now on a personal rig ark mainly but from what I've gathered from many hours talking shop with other like minded individuals is when hosting gaming servers E-cores are bad. you want the best single core speeds as possible. right now best single core without E-core is the ryzen 9950x so out of the two you have there the ryzen 5 will work better. now I'm not saying all games prefer this just the few games I do host some like more core count others more ram etc... I'm currently running a modded map on a threadripper 3960x it runs great when mods arent crashing it but it comes back up within 30 seconds so its not terrible to just hit that restart button. (9950X build is being started shortly)

[hidden forge]

Except an Intel 6th gen CPU does not have E-cores...

[lofty basin]

looking for something for less than 200$. Threadripper not in budget

[hidden forge]

I'd say take the Ryzen. More modern CPU and not power limited (T-suffix)

[lofty basin]

will it handle the load?

[hidden forge]

At least better than the intel

Might struggle a bit late game

[cinder sparrow]

Tbh I just read Intel and saw e-core

3.5ghz and above is the speeds single core not overclocked you’re shopting for

[lofty basin]

would you have any mini pc recommendations that’s in the elitedesk/optiplex/tiny pc realm that would fit my budget ?

[wind harbor]

why is the non beta branch install command downloading the experimental branch

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

using this and it installs the latest build 395236

[fossil moon]

L3 capacity and RAM speed are also really important

[woven siren]

Hi there, recently updated to experimental, now i cant access my dedicated server as its a different version. How do i update? or rather, where do i input the command so my server gets updated? i've seen the command "steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit" where exactly do i copy paste this command? i will add, i am running my server on Unraid using a Docker. i would like to ask here first before opening a ticket to see if anyone has the specific info im after. I've tried opening console on the Docker in unraid but i get "steamcmd.exe cmd not found. Tried running the cmd in-game-console. Also nothing. im after more specific instructions on how to update my server. Any help would be appreciated

i see quite a few reddit posts explaining the exact command on how to update, but i dont see anything telling me where to copy paste that specific command

[normal marsh]

Just add STEAMBETA=true to your docker compose file as an environment variable and restart the container. Those kinds of commands would need to be run from the CLI of the container, but it's a container so it would just revert to defaults on restart, so that's pointless. They are for running the server on a VM or on bare metal.

[edgy tusk]

I just discovered something.
I have the same proxmox setup and i noticed that it offloads a lot of data onto swap.
How much swap is allocated to your server?

[normal marsh]

Host 8G, container VM 976M. Which is default, I believe

[sour haven]

container set to 16gb?

ram that is

[craggy narwhal]

Hello, I recently set up a dedicated server and I am seeing the issue where trees and bushes will appear to the client, but they cannot be chopped down. It looks like the same issue as this bug from 3 years ago: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61bb6bbf831c852052365e54 Is this still the same issue, or is there a fix for it?

[frozen aurora]

hi everyone, i need the server version 382498 with steamcmd on windows,, any ideas how to install that ? any help is much appreciated ❤️

[edgy tusk]

My 16 gb ram was at 10 ish percent but it had 20 gb swap full.

[edgy tusk]

Try adding a whole lot of swap. See what happens.

[dreamy citrus]

why dont you update your client?
server is on a newer version that your client

[normal marsh]

Container has a 20G limit. It's using around 16G on average, with small spikes during auto saves

[normal marsh]

Hmm. Never had to mess with that. How would I give the VM more and how much would I give it? 8G? I do see that the VM uses almost all of its swap, but that's because of an issue with my media server which I haven't managed to track down yet

[normal marsh]

Nvm. Figured it out. It has 8G now. Although I really don't think it'll help with the frame rate problems, but at least it should help with the server in general. (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/34F8TW)
I did some more testing yesterday and it seems to be more a Linux problem (go figure sigh) The performance still isn't great while playing on the server on Windows either, but it's at least playable with dips to single digits while moving fast and anything from usable to good while just hovering around. FPS also recovers quicker on Windows for some reason. Tested on the same gaming PC (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/jD9NnQ)

[edgy tusk]

I used turnkey containers inside proxmox.
And i play my games on debian with steam proton
Linux through and through and never had such a issue.

[cinder sparrow]

One is the experimental version you have to opt into it or out of it

[marble rain]

I’m new to dedicated servers how do I set this up

[shut citrus]

hi all,i wanted to rent a dedicated server. i am familiar with Nitrado but had some issues in the past with other games, not stable and lags. anyone some recommendations? playing from Netherlands/Belgium. thanks

[warm breach]

I'm here for the same reason. I never used the beta flag on update. Anyone know how to roll back update from experimental?

[wind harbor]

good to know I'm not the only one

[warm breach]

I'm running steamcmd on linux. I downloaded the experimental version on my gaming pc, it played like trash so I rolled it back easily in steam. Not sure it's possible on the dedicated version since I don't think it should have installed an experimental version to start with.

Also, not hoping my game save isn't trashed

[mild thunder]

try adding in to flag it for non beta: -beta public

[warm breach]

Steamcmd installed Build 395236 ( 2/18/2025 ) never used the beta flag

Looks like it did run an update with -beta public @mild thunder , confirmed reinstalled the latest stable version.

very good, a satisfactory fix.

@wind harbor and @frozen aurora , explicitly adding the -beta public flag on the server resolved my issue. Went back to Build 385279.

Also looks like my save is working. Whew.

[wind harbor]

ty I will try it

[potent oasis]

I am sure that this has been brought up a thousand times. Any way to get the ping rate to stay stable? Mine climbs up to the 500ms

I am hosting my server in AWS on Linux with 8GB ram and 2 vcpu's

Server runs great when ping is low and steady

[sour haven]

D:\steamcmd\steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +force_install_dir D:\satisfactoryserver\ +app_update 1690800 +quit

Make sure you change the paths to fit your install!

Also check the app Number!

[normal marsh]

I don't like LXCs much tbh. They just seem like a lot of extra work compared to docker. The only upsides I see are; easier backup/restore and firewall management.

At this point I just think the problem is only being amplified by no one playing multi-player in these kinds of games and me being on Linux. So the 3 people who do play MP and on Linux, have never heard of my issue.
Not that the performance is great on Windows either, compared to running in single player.

I'm honestly losing hope for Linux as a gaming option. I luckily don't play competitive, but stuff like this is discouraging.

Weirdly enough it seemed to run slightly better with DX12 than Vulkan, but that really didn't matter with the poor performance I'm getting anyway.

I guess I'm just giving up on the dedicated server and setup save sharing, if the client still works for it. Server side is already there, because I figured it would come in handy for save management. The ingame download takes forever for no reason.

[edgy tusk]

Trying Different Setups before giving up seems smart to me

[normal marsh]

I'm going to try some things for Linux like different distros, but I think the dedicated server just needs more time in the oven. It just doesn't perform and I'm out of ideas to try. And no, it wasn't the mods. I tested and 0 impact to performance

[hidden forge]

Have you tried more RAM and less SWAP?

[normal marsh]

It's not a problem with my server. I'm getting the same bad performance, even if I run the server on the same machine that I play on. Doesn't matter if it's on docker or through Steam or on Windows 10 or Mint Cinnamon 22.1 or on my actual server. The only improvement is going from Linux to Windows for playing the game or by loading the save in single player on either

I was actually getting decent performance playing directly on the server since it has a GTX 1080 that does practically nothing most of the time. So the only blame I can place is on the server software itself

[sour haven]

running on a $150 server

playing on my PC.

I dont think it's a server issue, what video card are you using in you gaming rig?

[normal marsh]

3080ti. I'm getting better performance playing directly on the server VM, which has a 1080 than on the laggy server running locally

[edgy tusk]

Yeah something is really fucked up with your setup

[civic lantern]

Insufficient RAM is why.
AWS is not a great choice. INDIFFERENT BROCCOLI is a tenth the price

[civic lantern]

Did I read right you are trying to run the game in an 8 gig container and blaming Linux for poor performance?

[civic lantern]

-Beta public is in fact the release version. -beta experimental switches to the build called experiential. The word beta is misleading

[normal marsh]

Idk where you got that, but no. The container has 20G allocated

[sour haven]

As far as I know the dedicated server doesn't influence the clients FPS.

[civic lantern]

“It has 8G now”

[sour haven]

knowing that satisfactory will run on a r580 bare minimum and recommend that you have Ryzen 5 5600X because its less gpu intensive and more cpu dependent. I would check the cpu usage and check if it isn't thermal throttling. Hell download the save game and run it single player if it makes you feel better cutting out any possibility the dedicated server causing you issues.

[normal marsh]

We were talking about swap size. I increased the container host VMs swap from under 1G to 8G

[acoustic monolith]

heyy, i got satisfactory running on the default port, but i need to change the port, and i followed the guild from the wiki.gg on changing that port but now the game will find the server in the manager but when i try to connect i get ```UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 20.01, Real: 20.01, Good: 20.01, DriverTime: 20.02, Threshold: 20.00, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: <serverip>, Name: IpConnection_2147451373, Driver: PendingNetDriver IpNetDriver_2147451374, IsServer: NO, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID

[dawn kindle]

meh, my gpu and cpu are 80%-100% so i doubt its gpu intesive

(i have a amd Ryzen 5600 with a rtx 4060)

(optimized pc)

[normal marsh]

Hardware looks fine. Dedicated server doesn't seem to use much CPU compared to running the full game. Could there be a power saving feature getting in the way? I've set the governor to adaptive on the host, but it boosts just fine under load.
CPU load with Satisfactory Dedicated Server running is somewhere in the 70% range with 1 or 2 cores maxing out occasionally.

Although, It still doesn't explain why I'm seeing much worse FPS performance running the server on the same computer I play on VS playing in single player though.

I've never seen this kind of behavior with any other game server. Usually it would just be rubber banding if there was a problem, but this game seems to tie server performance with frame rate in some weird way.

I should mention that yesterday when my friend finally had time to play as well. I was hosting the world on Linux Mint through Steam, because of the server problems.
Every time we placed or removed anything, I'd get a huge lag spike and the game would stutter. Maybe that has something to do with server problems? I'd assume similar things must happen on it as well as we play.

[glad nest]

if any of your cores spike to 100% occasionally i would say that is your issue tbh

[sour haven]

Server lag is rubber banding and freezes where you cant move but DOSENT affect FPS. Client is is responsible for drawing the stuff on screen therefore your FPS.

Also removing

one server running on Proxmox and another one running bare metal.

[glad nest]

if the client is struggling to load entities due to any bottlenecks on the server side it may very well cause fps lags on client side

[sour haven]

no not FPS lags you will get rubberbanding and game freezes

[glad nest]

Not necessarily

but that is what is most common

[sour haven]

Well I still stand by he/she needs to download the save game and run it single player, my guess its gonna be the same issue. I suspect his CPU isn't up to the task and or thermal throttling. The game and server heavily relies on single thread performance. I would also be interested what video settings are in the mix also.

[wicked knot]

RAM speed can be a big hit as well. I went form 30-40 FPS running server and client on same machine, to single digit FPS running server on an older machine (i5 4690), with 32GB DDR3 RAM

[sour haven]

My main Satisfactory server uses DDR3 and I still get on my client well over 100 FPS with all graphics set to max.

and no rubberbanding or freezes. Ancient Dell r710 you can buy off of ebay for $150

[hidden forge]

This is bare metal? Check your CPU boost clocks while someone is on/autopause is disabled

And don't expect to much from a 15yo CPU

[dawn kindle]

what are u guys talking about

is running a server suppose to be hard?

i ran into only 1 or 2 crashes after 60 hours

and that was my only problem

apart from only having 90 fps on medium/high settings

[sour haven]

Server and client same time even with me backing up my DVD transcoding over 100FPS.

[dawn kindle]

do u even have a gpu

[sour haven]

in the server has its own down on the MB graphics, my client is a pc and yes it has dedicated GPU. Screen on the left is my server being viewed with RDP and the one on the right is my PC

[glad nest]

I am not sure what kind of issue we are even discussing here anymore
A x5670 is far below minimum recommended for satisfactory dedicated server atleast but as far as i can tell you are not the one running into issues?

[sour haven]

I'm only using CPU to transcode on the server, it dosent have a 16x slot and i havent given myself the time to mod the slot for a GPU.

[glad nest]

TechAnima is the one experiencing issues with FPS while playing on the server so that is probably the setup we want to investigate or is there something i've missed between the lines here

[cloud idol]

How do you turn on experimental mode in a dedicated sever?

[proper remnant]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Experimental_Branch_Selection

[normal marsh]

I did download the save and tested in SP and it's not a hardware issue. It's the dedicated server software. My friend just did the same test I did. Which was to download the Dedicated Server from Steam to his gaming computer, put our map on it and play on the worst area in the desert.

Exact same results. FPS drops considerably while playing on the server VS playing in single player.

His computer is even better than mine. He has a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB RAM and a 4080.

Mine is just a good ol Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32Gb RAM and a 3080ti.

Here's the original post with my exact settings and the 2 comparisons. Both runs were on Linux Mint 22.1 and daytime shot was done last. So if there were any overheating issues, they would have affected the daytime clip.

#dedicated-servers message

Performance is only very slightly better on Windows when doing the exact same test with DX12 instead of Vulkan on Linux.

Unless there's something that I could chance in the ini files, I'm out of ideas and we'll be using save sharing until the next major server update.

I also tested with mods disabled, no performance impact whatsoever

[tired dagger]

Okay may hav already been answered and if so could someone point me in the right direction but I am creating a website using php as my backend and would like to get server information like player count, and server status is there a way to do this without using the statistic mod?

[grim mica]

Have to use the API for that.. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers/HTTPS_API

[civic lantern]

If you don’t mind shooting me a copy of your save I can try to reproduce

[normal marsh]

Yeet 'O Land -> Cannon to N-W~ Will take you to the test area. Aim for the purple.

There's a small box next to the hub with gear in it.

[normal marsh]

For anyone checking it out. Spawn is our day 1 mess. It was left there to remind us what NOT to do.

Most of it has been completely replaced by bigger and better facilities.

Last 200h or so have probably been just optimization in the pursuit of getting better frame rates and re building the roads 3 times until we were happy.

Next factory in the rebuild Q is the motor factory mess S-W of spawn, but it serves us for now.

Now that we have found a way of playing with more than 16FPS average, maybe we'll finally get back to being good FICSIT employees

[lofty basin]

So are late game saves in general just shit on severs or?

[fossil moon]

the game simulation becomes incredibly difficult to run if you have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of objects - even light actors like foundations, walls and signs probably add up.

I am not sure why servers on the same hardware would be disproportionately affected though. Rented servers usually have the issue of being on much weaker hardware than a high end gaming PC, but the report above is much worse even with a 7800x3d.

[lofty basin]

fair enough

[grim mica]

Late/end game really isnt.. if the server is spec'ed properly. Folks seem to forget that dedicated is running the full world simulation, just without the graphics overhead - so with a very large save you will generally need fast cores. I.e use a gaming/desktop CPU (Ryzen 5/7/9 or i5/i7) to run the server rather than your 5+ year old Xeon CPU with 2.1Ghz

[grim mica]

It is certainly laggy when you are moving around, but once loaded into a specific area (the DS will stream objects to the client based on range) I get expected performance. This is pretty much just how DS is, granted we can now increase the netspeed (NetworkQuality) and I have mine set to a manual profile that allows 1Gbps since i'm LAN with my server. I can send you my ini files if you want to try to adjust the net speeds.

[normal marsh]

Couldn't hurt I suppose. At least I could be sure they are correct and not what was correct a year ago when some random post was made on Reddit about the manual ini tweaks.

Speaking of server streaming. Should the setting for server streaming be on or off for best possible performance? I was never quite sure which way was better

[grim mica]

Pretty sure streaming setting is no longer relevant

[grim mica]

Server shouldnt cause too much of an issue to overwrite, can adjust the settings if needed.
Client side, the only setting that matters in GameUserSettings is the mIntValues ("FG.NetworkQuality", 4) otherwise if you replace it will overwrite with alot of my own settings, backup your ini files before you swap them in to keep your settings.

[modest rover]

why wont the presents go away in our server??

[grim mica]

You can always manually turn off seasonal events

[acoustic monolith]

hi i got satisfactory running on the default port, but i need to change the port, and i followed the guild from the wiki.gg on changing that port but now the game will find the server in the manager but when i try to connect i get ```UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 20.01, Real: 20.01, Good: 20.01, DriverTime: 20.02, Threshold: 20.00, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: <serverip>, Name: IpConnection_2147451373, Driver: PendingNetDriver IpNetDriver_2147451374, IsServer: NO, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID

[wicked knot]

Basically, I think you need to do this, more because the port changed.
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#How_do_I_reset_the_Administrator_password?

[acoustic monolith]

hmm i will try that tonight

[grim mica]

When the server starts it will generate a new ServerSettings.<port>.sav, basically the port determines the server instancing

[acoustic monolith]

that worked, its weird that having two serversetting save files messed it up

[grim mica]

Odd, i've had 3 servers running on the same machine before, each with their own .sav file

[wicked knot]

but in separate folders, right?

or "containers"

[grim mica]

No, on the same VM and even using the same exe/folder paths

I used NSSM and just had different '-port=xyz' set on the 3 instances, just different services

Granted this was pre-1.0, so might have changed and even more so again with the recent port adjustment to DS.. dunno

[chilly ember]

I have a laptop running ubuntu 24.04.
The packages are all up to date.
steamcmd is installed
the satisfactory game is installed under steam user
I have it running as a service with the service example given in the wiki
the service runs fine.
Firewall service (ufw) completely disabled
I see this on the server

$ netstat -na | grep 7777
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:7777            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:7777            0.0.0.0:*

to be continued...

...continuation

I can see the server in server manager
I set up a new game there and gave admin and player passwords
i try to connect from my windows machine through the LAN on a little switch
i get this error in my logs

2025-02-26T19:25:28.770134-05:00 ubuntu-hp FactoryServer.sh[6435]: [2025.02.27-00.24.46:345][325]LogNet: Join request: /Game/FactoryGame/Map/DedicatedserverEntry?ClientIdentity=<long_string_of_numbers>?EntryTicket=<long_string_of_letters_and_numbers>?EncryptionToken=<numbers_probably_secret>?Name=<my_steam_name>?SplitscreenCount=1
2025-02-26T19:25:28.770344-05:00 ubuntu-hp FactoryServer.sh[6435]: [2025.02.27-00.24.46:345][325]LogSpawn: Warning: Login failed: Entry Ticket verification failed. Make sure the valid entry ticket is supplied in the join options.
2025-02-26T19:25:28.770460-05:00 ubuntu-hp FactoryServer.sh[6435]: [2025.02.27-00.24.46:345][325]LogNet: Join failure: Entry Ticket verification failed. Make sure the valid entry ticket is supplied in the join options.
2025-02-26T19:25:28.770613-05:00 ubuntu-hp FactoryServer.sh[6435]: [2025.02.27-00.24.46:345][325]LogNet: UNetConnection::SendCloseReason:

more continued...

continuation numero dos....
and i get this error on my windows client (see attached image)
it kicks me back to the main menu.
Please help? been trying this for a few days now 🙂

[grim mica]

Is that Steam or Epic?

Only suggestion I have without some further info is to check date+time between the server and client

[gaunt mural]

Hello, today I decided to reinstall the game and I wanted to host it on a dedicated server, since it has been a while i tried to follow the guide on the wiki, but since i'm here, something didn't work out well.
I tried checking everything that came to my mind so I decided to forward here my problem; Server installed on a windows dedicated server using steamCMD, the app is installed and the server seems to work, but still I can't get to even "claim" it in game

• ports are enabled in the firewall and result opened in various websites
• doing the "curl -k ..." in the cmd on my pc works
• tried different methods and combinations of enforcing the port (I knoe 7777 is the deafult but I didn't know what else to try) or forcing the multiport

I will attach also what the console looks like and my main problem (I see the server offline), any help would be appreciated, I'm currently lost

[modest rover]

I did but it’s all still there lol…unless if then ones that have already falling from the sky stay until they’re picked up? And no more will fall from the sky? Bc it’s annoying that they keep getting in the way lol..I’ll try and see if that’s what it is..havent had time to check since I asked the question since I’ve been busy

[deep turret]

do you connect to game through server manager ?

[deep turret]

is this inbound firewall rules ?

[gaunt mural]

Yes Inbound

[chilly ember]

Yes

[chilly ember]

I used steamcmd

[chilly ember]

I’ll check that thank you

[potent valve]

hi,

I am running a Satisfactory dedicated server on my PC. The problem is that anyone can join even if I am not online, but if I join and then leave, the server goes offline for some reason.

[grim mica]

Switch to the experimental build, long standing issue since 1.0 releasted is finally fixed on that version

[rich dust]

Hi, everyone!
Can someone explain how to disable server autopause? Because when I disconnect from my server, he going to offline for no reason, idk why, but every time when I disconnect then the server change status on offline and I can't reconnect again to him
(I use Steam SDS, and have rules in firewall for 7777 port and for 15777/15000 ports too)
But the window with terminal is still open and server is running
I also have that string in GameUserSettings.ini :

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]
mIntValues=(("FG.DSAutoPause", 0),("FG.DSAutoSaveOnDisconnect", 1),("FG.DisableSeasonalEvents", 0),("FG.NetworkQuality", 3))

[chilly ember]

Times are within a few seconds of each other. I’m certain this is not the issue.

[rich dust]

Do you still have the issue with server offline status?

[gaunt mural]

Yeah, currently I can't try more but I think the problem is about firewall and machine protection system

[heavy tartan]

Hey guys I am having an issue where the server is spamming "Ran Out Of Memory" in the event viewer, but the server is only using 4gb, and I have 16gb?

[fervent zinc]

heyy lads im trying to get a dedicated server and iv done all the basic things like port forwding and other things show in a totoural and yet im still having issue with my server, it says its offline and server name pending alone with it says its not authenticated

[normal marsh]

Yeah.. About that. You are going to need 16 just to run the damn thing. It spikes a little higher occasionally and during auto saves too. Time for a memory upgrade.

[deep turret]

check available ram in task manager or htop
if you didn't restart since long time ago you could have lot of things using ram, 16GB is enough to start but may be too short for big saves

[rich dust]

I already do this before, and do all things what I describe in the message, but server still go to the autopause after I logout from him

[sour haven]

Is it pauseing or going offline?

2 different things

same computer server and client? If so your gonna have to restart the server.

every time you disconnect

[grim mica]

Just upgrade it to experimental..

[hidden forge]

or host on linux

[nimble pine]

guys any known solutions for Faild to connect to Server API ?

[fervent zinc]

can someone help me out with my server, iv followed a totorial and for them it worked fine but for me i cant connect/set the server up anyideas?

[obtuse root]

I set up my server but you cant access it with the public ip what did i do wrong?

[potent oasis]

@civic lantern Thank you so much. Indifferent Broccoli is awesome. I have already deleted my server on AWS because it is so much better. Again, thanks for the tip.

[icy oar]

is it possible to ban a player from rejoining my dedicated server?

[deep turret]

put a player password

short term you could add a firewall rule banning their ip

[tiny night]

I'm looking for a fresh server to join! 🇧🇪

[hidden forge]

#1201555265942724758

[potent valve]

guys how can i switch back to stable version from experimental?

[proper remnant]

Add -beta public to the steamcmd params

[deep turret]

note not specifying beta option is updating already selected branch (default if none)

I use that for my update script
so I simply manually select and it update whatever I selected

[balmy lake]

How can I make a server on Ubuntu server

[deep turret]

this is broad question
did you read the official wiki ?

it has instructions for Linux install

I recommend steamcmd

[civic lantern]

Glad to hear it. It’s a great approach

[tired marsh]

The tcp 7777 must be reachable

[burnt rune]

My satisfactory server is doing this, any advice on what might be causing this?
I have verified that port 7777 is forwarded (for both tcp and udp) and forwarded on my router.

[rich dust]

If you unlock all, mb this is unskip part

Hi, everyone!
Can someone explain how I can fix issue with placing blueprints? When I try to placed them, the textures are not showing, but they are there, and if I try to dismantle them, the belt is gone, but visually they are not disappear
But I doesn't have any issue with placing by default 1 by 1 method
(I use Docker container - wolveix/satisfactory-server)

[red kettle]

I just rented a server from Gportal and cannot for the life of me get it to work,m says its online on gportals website but offline in the game menu. I get no prompt what so ever to authenticate the server. Have tried several things, verified all game files etc. even had friends stream to me and the server also shows offline for them aswell. I have an ongoing ticket with Gportal but no luck, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!!! if im missing something

[mint vale]

We are struggling with players consistently rubberbanding or stuttering every 15-30 seconds or so. Error messag ein console is something around the lines of lightweight collision component not supported. If there any immediate fix. FYI The host that is hosting the dedicated server is not having any of these issues just anyone connecting to the server.

[faint kettle]

any new player servers

[icy oar]

did you set up port forwarding properly? idk if its needed when you're running it on a rented server , bt maybe

[abstract elm]

hi, i have aproblem with my game version, the server auto updated to the experimental branch but i dont have experimental on:
ExecStartPre=/home/steam/Steam/steamcmd.sh +force_install_dir /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
This is the command that i use on my service to auto start the server.
Can someone help?

[mild thunder]

need to reflag it back to non experimental with the flag: -beta public

[abstract elm]

does it roll back?

[abstract elm]

ExecStartPre=/home/steam/Steam/steamcmd.sh +force_install_dir /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate -beta public +quit
Is it right?

[mild thunder]

i would put it before the validate, then try it and see if it works

[abstract elm]

it worked thx you

[small sun]

It seems like the foundation material/destruction desync is still present on the latest version, sadge. Any way around it other than reconnecting every time?

[unborn sequoia]

me

[grim mica]

Have you tried the ArrayUpdates fix?

"net.MaxNumberOfAllowedTArrayChangesPerUpdate 4096"
"net.MaxNumberOfAllowedTArrayDeletionsPerUpdate 4096"

[small sun]

No, haven't seen this before. Can I put this inside some configuration or do I need to run it in server console every time?

[grim mica]

#dedicated-servers message

[dusk flume]

so im settip up a dedicated server through the epic games luancher on a spare pc and it seems to be running but its not showing up in game

[pure fog]

Need some help from the SATISfamily, trying to run a server on a seperate pc and getting this message at the end LogServer: Display: Server startup time elapsed and saving/level loading is done, auto-pause is allowed to proceed from now on (if enabled in server settings). WorldTimeSeconds = 30.09

[dusk flume]

same here

[tame plinth]

Hello! Is there capability for mods within hosting it via Nitrado yet?

[pure fog]

Welp.... this is embarrassing. I was using the wrong IP when I was trying to connect to it. I was using the one shown on my gaming computer and not the one shown on the server computer. Crisis averted, back to efficiency pioneers!!!!

[grim mica]

Pretty much always firewall/NAT misconfiguration or someone is trying to join Dedicated with the 'join game' rather than using Server Manager if the dedicated launched and is running

'LogServer: Display: Server startup time elapsed and saving/level loading is done, auto-pause is allowed to proceed from now on (if enabled in server settings). WorldTimeSeconds = 30.0'

Completely normal to see in the log, the server is just sitting around waiting for a connection

[rigid shale]

My server on nitrado keeps shutting down.

After their maintenance, it’s really annoying after having done so much. I neglected to do back ups 😦

[dusk flume]

its not showing up in game tho and i dont know why

[misty loom]

They auto back up until 30 unless that’s just for ark

[rigid shale]

Thank you

[azure flame]

Hallo all.....new to Satisfactory and LOVING it. Just set up a dedicated server (hosted) and was wondering....is it possible for me to play from different machines (not at the same time) and have a seemless experience? Does Steam keep the local player data updated across all installs for my account?

[proper remnant]

Hi, it should world if you're using Steam Cloud and the same Steam account on your different machines

[barren swallow]

anyone know why I'm getting this error? Command = d:\steamcmd\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir D:\satisfactoryserver +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit ERROR! Failed to install app '1690800' (No subscription)

Was working fine about a year or so ago, trying to setup a new server and not its broke

[red kettle]

IS there a trick for MOD compatibilty for GPORTAL? I can get some mods to work and others not, fails to load server, others that work for the server cannot be unlocked in the hub like structural solutions

[mental locust]

Hey

AMD Ryzen™ 7 7700 and 64 gigs of ram ok?

[royal dove]

Got a Ryzen 7 5800X with 64GB and works fine

Funny thing is though that my "Release" server is downloading the experimental one. :p (fixed btw)

[mental locust]

You have 2 dedicated servers?

I rent mine from hetzner

[royal dove]

Got a physical server somewhere running Satisfactory, Valheim and some other stuff

Aw my trees are still not correctly getting updated in the swamp 😦

Still ghost ones.

Not sur eif that is fixed in Experimental

[mental locust]

How many users can be on one instance?

[royal dove]

We still have an issue with "ghost trees" in the swamp, in experimental and with the commands stated above. 😦 (Single player is fine) If needed i can share the save. (~18 MB) Rest seems to be updating fine, but when i reached the swamp everything breaks down. 😦

[barren swallow]

So can anyone else login to steamcmd with anonymous or you really have to enter credentials for this game?

Like, how are hosting companies doing this?

[royal dove]

steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir "D:\01 - gameservers\satisfactoryserverexp" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit i am using this command one and works with no issues?

[barren swallow]

Nope, tell me I need a subscription.

[royal dove]

Removed everything and re-installed steamcmd ?

[barren swallow]

Yup.

Works fine for 3 other servers, just not this game.

[mental locust]

@barren swallow I just host on peradactyle

[dapper tree]

whag is dedicatef server

[past knoll]

Hey guys, recently set up a server with TrueNas Scale but it almost seems like I am not the owner of the server. I cannot invite people to the server. Does anyone know how I set it up?

[wicked knot]

AFAIK, invites arent possible. Just give the IP:port info to those you want to join

[past knoll]

i did and it said something like "waiting for server name" or something like that for my buddy

[plain maple]

IS there any fix for Foundations not disapearing when deconstructed on a dedicated server? i have to log out and back in every single time.

[wicked knot]

first person onto the server claims it, names it, and sets admin PW

[past knoll]

even if im loading from an existing save?

[wicked knot]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Claiming_the_Server_and_Starting_a_Game

[cursive field]

hey there... i get this error i dont know how to fix this ^^

can someone please help me?

[glad nest]

seems like when the server was installed the time was wrong, or on your pc

fix your clock and retry

[tidal frigate]

Hey, I'm having trouble with belt speed. I have 3 nodes running at 720, and 2 mk 6 belts can't seem to keep up.
I noticed the same with mk4 and 5 belts where the sum would be lower than the supposed max throughput and just assumed I had a slow belt somewhere I couldn't find at first but now I've verified that the belts just aren't as fast as they should be.
I assume this is something to do with tickrate and merging etc so are there any good settings I can look into or info on what sort of optimization should I do to the host?

[severe delta]

yo how do I download the experimental in steamcmd

[proper remnant]

hi, check this https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Experimental_Branch_Selection

[sick cairn]

Ive no clue where to look for help but me and my brother cant play together. We both got it on steam and trying to host using steam but im not allowed to join him. What gives?

[hidden forge]

How do you host? How do you try to join?

[sick cairn]

Just steam. He makes multiplayer and I dont get the option to join. but its fine, joined through ID

[frozen kraken]

Anyone know if there are plans to change how mods work with servers?

ive set one up with qol mods like nudge, infinite zoop, but it sayscant join modded save on vanilla client meaning it also needs to be installed locally.

seems counterintuitive to need to add them locally and to the server

[hidden forge]

No? While the Server can handle the logic, the client still need a to be able to parse it and display it

Or in case of the mentioned QoL mods, you need to handle everything and send the result to the server

[severe delta]

Thank you

[tidal frigate]

Has anybody else had issues with belt throughput on dedicated servers? High end belts that should be fast enough just aren't?

[deep turret]

the client mod manager could maybe install mods as required by specific server through server mod extra api channels, but it would still require client to have the mod loading logic
and then it is fully managed by modding community, here it's about the vanilla server

[nocturne elbow]

I'm running a dedicated server through the Steam app and have configured port forwarding (7777 on TCP and UDP) through my router and opened the ports through Windows Defender Firewall. I am able to connect to the server using localhost, but can't access the server when trying to use my external IP. I get "Server name pending, Not Authenticated". Any suggestions here?

[nocturne elbow]

Essentially, I followed this https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fel8t1/setting_up_a_satisfactory_dedicated_server/

[past knoll]

I created a server on my network via true nas. I gave my friend the IP but he cant join, any tips?

[nocturne elbow]

Is it "Server name pending, Not Authenticated"? Seems like there is a lot of that going around.

[past knoll]

yeah pretty much

[hidden forge]

Did you give the external or internal IP? Did you set up port-forwarding on the router?

[past knoll]

where would I find that in truenas do you know? or is that what static IP is. Do I need to set up an IP?

[slow kettle]

how do you people host your servers?

without a subscription prefferably

[glad nest]

Dedicated servers are now officially supported! Discuss away! Wiki for more info: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[unborn fulcrum]

Not quite a server question but does anyone know what is better in terms of hosting a server a NAS or a proper home server cuz I kinda wanna tinker around with a dedicated server but I have no idea where to start

[unborn fulcrum]

Ok that was enough reading for today imma take a nap

[lime elm]

Im getting this error when trying to connect now 😦

[hidden forge]

internal IP is probably how you contact your NAS, external IP is your internet IP

[hidden forge]

whichever has the more powerfull CPU. NASes are just storage servers at the end of the day

[idle flower]

same, we're using Pterodactyl panel.

[unborn fulcrum]

So in other words a server is just a gaming nas? Can i use it via esata connection (to link pc to server) or does it have to be over wifi

[hidden forge]

eSATA is just for Storage, you need a network link. preferably wired.

a server ist just a system providing services. a NAS is a network storage. so a NAS is a Storage-Server

[idle flower]

some NAS can run server like services, it depends on the NAS software, and hardware as to what it can run.

[hidden forge]

thats why i kept in generic

[unborn fulcrum]

Ok so my situation is odd my router is upstairs and my pc is downstairs late 70s house so no lan wall ports and I use wifi to use my pc so could I connect the server to my pc using the mobos lan port or no

[hidden forge]

if you know how to configure the network and only plan to play alone, sure

[unborn fulcrum]

Or would I have to get a wifi card for the server

[unborn fulcrum]

So lan ports can act as data transmission as well

[hidden forge]

networking ports are for connecting systems and transmitting data between them, yes

[unborn fulcrum]

Ok so how I'm visioning it is wifi links gaming pc to router gaming pc connects to gaming server via ethernet cable thru the lan ports and that would work only speed limit is the wifi

[hidden forge]

router <WIFI> PC
PC <WIRE> Server
?

[unborn fulcrum]

Basically

[hidden forge]

sure. you need to configure the wired interfaces, or just use autoconfig, and, if the server does not have another connection, nobody else can connect to it

but it'll work

[unborn fulcrum]

My IT skills are limited to building pcs so any technobable is pretty much lost to me

But is it possible to run a server from my pc insted essentially combine a server into my pc

Just to see if I need a separate machine or can I essentially run a server in my pc

[hidden forge]

if you have the enough resources you can host and play on the same machine

[unborn fulcrum]

It's a 12th gen i5 (KF) and a 4060

[hidden forge]

RAM?

[unborn fulcrum]

How exactly would I go about setting it up do I require a separate OS or will Win 11 suffice?

[unborn fulcrum]

16gb

Ddr4

[hidden forge]

eh, that might be not enough

[hidden forge]

download the server from steam and then run the .exe. connect via 127.0.0.1

[unborn fulcrum]

Would 32gb suffice I've got a kit in my wishlist on Amazon all I gotta do is order it

[hidden forge]

depends on the savegame size

[unborn fulcrum]

Unmodded still a T1 SE

In terms of GB I dunno ide have to pull it up when I get home

[hidden forge]

you can try with 16, 32 should be enough until midgame

[unborn fulcrum]

Wait 32 wouldn't work? I've only got 2 slots!

[unborn fulcrum]

The servers can be downloaded? Is that what the wiki was talking about I thought it was some technojargen matrix mainframe stuff

[hidden forge]

no?

they are free to download over steam or epic

[unborn fulcrum]

Free you say? My favorite type of sale

Ferb I know what were gunna do today

Ik I'm old

[unborn fulcrum]

I have a MK. 2 of my current set up planned out with 64gb of ddr5 for much later down the line (say when the issues with Nvidias 50 series gets ironed out) the only part that stays the same is the case everything else is pretty much a complete redesign I'm going to get a smaller case (mATX) to put my current system in and build the new one in the current case

May use the old system as a auxiliary system in case the primary blows up (see 50 series power cables melting)

[royal dove]

Ok i got good news and bad news; good news is, i do not see trees which should gone; the bad news: loading screen is stuck, but i hear and can move things. (Experimental :P)

[swift hound]

same, my friend cannot join my server, endless load screen since the last experimental this afternoon, until this he joined and played fine for two weeks on the previous experimental

[wispy citrus]

is there any fix for the insane lag when placing a lot of power storage?

[swift hound]

I just tried to connect to my own server with a VPN, same issue my friend is having, endless loading screen, you can hear the game in the background but the loading screen doesn not go away so you can't do anything except alt+f4 to force exit.

[unborn fulcrum]

Try closing the server and reopening it?

Essentially turn off and on again

[swift hound]

That's the first thing I tried, verified server and client files, it's just remote clients that can no longer connect.

[unborn fulcrum]

Check your network stuff maybe a wire came loose