dedicated-servers

[regal marsh]

16gb (I have more, but not in that vm)

[steel osprey]

could be tooo less. 12 GB for Satis

[regal marsh]

it almost never goes past 8gb

[steel osprey]

on host?

[regal marsh]

besides

[regal marsh]

on host 64gb
but assigned to other vms

full dedi

[steel osprey]

proxmox?

[worldly meadow]

Are you over subscribed on RAM for you're VMs?

[regal marsh]

yes proxmox

[steel osprey]

do you use Balloning and NUMA?

and Hostmode?

[regal marsh]

no and yes

[regal marsh]

yes

[steel osprey]

use balooning and NUMa

[regal marsh]

nah why

numa I use

[steel osprey]

so servers share RAM and CPU and servers are faster

[regal marsh]

eh no
I need other stuff separated as much as possible

[steel osprey]

useless with proxmox

Balloning use RAm, which are not used from other servers

[formal orbit]

@worldly meadow I got a critical error with the stack dump

[regal marsh]

I prefer set max

[feral dawn]

There is no performance benefit to using Dynamic Memory, at all.

if u have enough phyiscal memory, dont use dynamic memory, pointless.

[worldly meadow]

ballooning is only needed if you are assigning more memory to all the VM's then you have available. If you don't oversubscribe RAM then ballooning will only waste resources.

[steel osprey]

Noone konws, what he assigend to others

[formal orbit]

Nothing really talkative (so to speak)

[regal marsh]

why are you even telling me to change stuff
everything I have including satisfactory works perfectly fine 😄

havent even seen not disappearing dismantled foundations since I forced the network quality to ultra (by replacing other numbers in scalability.ini, since it gets reset all the time) and put ticks to 60

[worldly meadow]

Numa should also should only be used if your CPU has more than one NUMA node. That way it's aware of the NUMA separation. If you tell it there's NUMA nodes and there aren't any it can hurt performance.

[feral dawn]

afaik it should always be used in multi-cpu systems i believe?

not 100% sure on it tho

[worldly meadow]

multi CPU as in multi socket. not multi core

[feral dawn]

yah

[steel osprey]

you use it with more than 1 Core

BUT; this is all offtopic 😄

[worldly meadow]

in most cases that's the only time you use it. but there are some CPU's that are a single socket and have multiple numa nodes because the core count is just so high and the CPU architecture had no other way of dealing with it. That's mostly been phased out though as far as I'm aware.

[worldly meadow]

no you don't or your hurting performance.

[steel osprey]

not really. More performance on my root with NUMA

and 6 VMs

[formal orbit]

The server is a vm under proxmox. Could it be an issue ?

[steel osprey]

my server runs also under proxmox in a KVM vm

[worldly meadow]

it's possible. depends on the settings you have.

[steel osprey]

mb he use lxc

[mellow gust]

is there any kind of "bulletin board" mechanism or something to lay out plans for other users on the server?

[formal orbit]

How many cores are you defining ?

[mellow gust]

ewww lxc, I gave up on using those

too dependent on the host

[regal marsh]

to do list

open inventory and click right side of screen

guess thats all there is
and markers on map

[steel osprey]

Just throwing it out there; there are still some people who don't know what to do with KVM 😄

[mellow gust]

only reason I still use LXC is for sharing the intel iGPU with VMs that need transcoding

[regal marsh]

its also limited by characters
which is awful

[mellow gust]

going to move to a remote-ffmpeg system with ffmpeg in the lxc and jellyfin/actual software in a VM eventually

have as little as possible in LXCs

[formal orbit]

32gb and testing with 4 cores now

[chrome pumice]

What is the proxmox CPU set as? On of the CPU options doesn't work for this.

[chrome pumice]

I think the CPU needs to be set as host.

[formal orbit]

All are default

[steel osprey]

then set it to host

[mellow gust]

I have the CPU set as x86-64-v4 and it works fine

[steel osprey]

host is not default

[mellow gust]

better than host because you can migrate between nodes

[regal marsh]

yeah but host might have better performance actually

no emulations
only an issue if you plan to move your vms to different CPUs

[worldly meadow]

yah, as @chrome pumice said, try setting the CPU to host and see what happends. That can fix a lot of strange problems.

[steel osprey]

But you don't have all the command sets available

because its a virtul CPU

[mellow gust]

well I haven't seen any issues, and my nodes are very different (one is intel and other is amd) so I need least common denominator

[formal orbit]

Changing to host

[regal marsh]

the CPU features yeah

[worldly meadow]

if they only have one node then it doesn't matter if they have more than one node and all the nodes CPU's are the same then it won't be a problem either. but those are all big "IF's"

[regal marsh]

satisfactory wiki itself also recommends host

[mellow gust]

is there any specific flags that are big optimizations?

could see if both my nodes support some of them and do something custom

[deep turret]

if the vm is not roamed around then it still would work fine, and if the cpus are not too much away they can have a lot in common

[deep turret]

you can put require avx and avx2 at least

[regal marsh]

#dedicated-servers message

[worldly meadow]

That's what I was saying

[mellow gust]

does x64-v4 not already have that?

[steel osprey]

no

because only host have it

[deep turret]

sorry I just go there what hypervisor is this

[formal orbit]

Yay! Thanks guys 🙂

[steel osprey]

x64-v4 cant emulte it, what i read

[deep turret]

this is insanely stupid if they put avx512 but not avx2 and avx in there

[eager monolith]

Well, I am not sure how to fix my problem without turning on advanced game settings and basically cheating. Server crashed, and we had a corrupt save...had to load last previous (15 minutes prior). Player lost a significant part of their train network, and apparently the materials for that network.

Is there anyway that I can give them some materials, without the cheat menu...or without mods?

[mellow gust]

this is incorrect

I definitely see avx and avx2 inside my v4 vm

satisfactory@satisfactory:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 107
model name    : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
stepping    : 1
microcode    : 0x1000065
cpu MHz        : 4199.980
cache size    : 512 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 4
core id        : 0
cpu cores    : 4
apicid        : 0
initial apicid    : 0
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 13
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm rep_good nopl cpuid extd_apicid tsc_known_freq pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c hypervisor lahf_lm cmp_legacy abm 3dnowprefetch vmmcall bmi1 avx2 bmi2 avx512f avx512dq avx512cd avx512bw avx512vl
bugs        : fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs null_seg swapgs_fence amd_e400 spectre_v1 spectre_v2
bogomips    : 8399.96
TLB size    : 1024 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

[deep turret]

either you're missing about the actual vm you are running or it miss something on the system level

[mellow gust]

this is inside the x86-64-v4 vm

[mellow gust]

this is host

root@pmg:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 25
model        : 97
model name    : AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor
stepping    : 2
microcode    : 0xa601209
cpu MHz        : 4847.674
cache size    : 1024 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 16
core id        : 0
cpu cores    : 8
apicid        : 0
initial apicid    : 0
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 16
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good amd_lbr_v2 nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf rapl pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb cat_l3 cdp_l3 hw_pstate ssbd mba perfmon_v2 ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid cqm rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb avx512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local user_shstk avx512_bf16 clzero irperf xsaveerptr rdpru wbnoinvd cppc arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic v_vmsave_vmload vgif x2avic v_spec_ctrl vnmi avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid overflow_recov succor smca fsrm flush_l1d
bugs        : sysret_ss_attrs spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass srso
bogomips    : 8400.06
TLB size    : 3584 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro [13] [14]

[feral dawn]

jj, did u check on the kvm website to ensure v4 is suited to your CPU?

qemu website*

[deep turret]

I know this works at least

[mellow gust]

my question is what is the problem you guys are mentioning

what is the bottleneck

[mellow gust]

this is clearly incorrect, the vm has avx2 and even avx512

so it's only missing a bunch of small flags, are any of them actually important

my satisfactory server runs fine so I'm just trying to figure out if there is some perf I'm missing out on/is this actually a problem

[regal marsh]

it is usually mentioned that host cpu type has a better performance (in general)
thats all

[worldly meadow]

If when your players are on and the tick rate is 29 or greater, you aren't really missing any performance.

[mellow gust]

yeah it's been fine. I mean this is a 7800X3D and I left it with a pretty generous vcpu limit so it should have plenty of room lol

after all I can run full satisfactory in a Windows VM on this machine in full 4k ultra lol

[worldly meadow]

lol, then I suspect you are just fine 🙂

[true cove]

My friend can't join my game on epic games anymore can someone help me ?

yesterday we play just fine and this morning nothing work

[deep turret]

it may have to do with tsc-scale and tsc settings things like that maybe, or it just is a software/environnement bug

[dusty vortex]

sounds like your trying to use multiplayer mode, not a dedicated server.
help for multiplayer mode is out of scope for this channel.

[true cove]

ohhh i yeah sorry

[mellow gust]

I've heard things like train stations and blueprints are known issues, how much does that actually get in the way?

(We have not gotten to that point on the server yet)

[abstract garnet]

i havent had issues with train stations or bps, but maybe some other people has had them 😮

[worldly meadow]

There have been many reports on this channel of people having problems with blue prints. Looks like it's on a case by case basis though so "your mileage may vary".

[dusty vortex]

likewise no issues with trains or blueprints here either, but we have seen some folks have issues with blueprints.... maybe blueprints that had been imported from previous versions of the game maybe, unsure.

[grim mica]

Btw Delph - switched to a Linux VM and no longer have those offline issues

[stoic stream]

did they fix the API backend? Because the server restarted on it's own, like it usually does and it finally didnt' lose connection to the server manager

[feral dawn]

Trains have been fine for me, other than the usual having to replace rail segments to re-calculate the rail network.

Blueprints that contain belts have been nothing but a problem, i have many belts on my save that i cannot delete as it insta-crashes the server.

As others have said, you may not have the issue, fingers crossed for you that you dont.

[dusty vortex]

shame you had to, but glad you and your pals can enjoy a game more reliably now 🙂
its certainly something related to windows based servers but not clear what.

[deep turret]

if it can push people to learn to use linux servers

better for world stability

[grim mica]

Indeed

[sullen epoch]

I blame Crowdstrike 😂

[stone apex]

Hey, i have a problem with blueprints: i uploaded some of my singleplayer blueprints to my dedicated server into the blueprints folder, restarted the game but none of them show up. does anybody have a solution?

[tawny shadow]

most of the time its because of the wrong folder.

if you are unsure of the folder,
create a blueprint ingame on the server and check the folder that was created and move the files again

[stone apex]

i used the folder automatically created by the game

[unborn basin]

Anyone make use of the HTTPS server API ever? I'm very used to consuming REST APIs but the documentation is surprisingly poor and non-standard so I'm trying to make heads or tails of it.

I'm writing a small utility to restart my server that I'm hosting on Docker in case of version mismatch so I can start the update process and just wanted to use the HealthCheck function. 😛

[tawny shadow]

did you check the apidocs.md file from the gameinstall folder?
"Satisfactory\CommunityResources\DedicatedServerAPIDocs.md"

[unborn basin]

Yeah they're reproduced in multiple places online as well.

Nothing is responding to a post over TLS on port 7777.

Just this all the time:

{
    "errorCode": "errors.com.epicgames.httpserver.route_handler_not_found",
    "errorMessage": ""
}

Best I could tell I should send it a body like:

{
    "function": "HealthCheck"
}

[tawny shadow]

there are some api python wrappers out there for satisfactory,
they might have some stuff that helps

PyFactoryBridge for example

[unborn basin]

I'll have a look. Thanks.

[mighty portal]

@unborn basin here are some docs https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/wiki/Official-API-Docs

[unborn basin]

Mostly I feel like I must just have the wrong endpoint and it's not at the root but that's nowhere in the docs.

[unborn basin]

That's what I was reading.

[mighty portal]

This is the normal response

[unborn basin]

Sure. I get exactly what it's saying. So that begs the question what's the route to the API.

[mighty portal]

yourip:7777/api/v1

[unborn basin]

Honestly wish folks would just publish an OpenAPI/Swagger doc and I'd never have to guess again. 😛

[unborn basin]

Blessed, thank you.

[mighty portal]

np

[unborn basin]

Perfect. That was exactly what I needed.

[mighty portal]

yea a swagger would be great

[unborn basin]

Welp. Sincerely bad docs but I figured out the shape of the request eventually. Very grateful.

[mighty portal]

Yeah, I struggled in the beginning too lol

[rose pasture]

why do i get this msg ? anyone know ?

[dusky hull]

Hello everyone,
I'm hosting a dedicated Satisfactory server on my machine and also connecting to it with the game client on the same machine. However, whenever I exit the game, the dedicated server shuts down, which disconnects my friends from the server.
Has anyone else experienced this issue or knows how to fix it? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[grim mica]

Yep, known issue with Windows DS, use Linux

[unborn basin]

Usually that's a firewalled port not being open.

[unborn basin]

Had the same issue and resolution as well.

[gaunt sky]

Hello can i ban a user from the server?

[grim mica]

I have spent quite alot of time trying to figure out the cause of it, but it seems my profile is one of the ones that causes it

[grim mica]

There is no ban/kick afaik, set a password if that is an issue

[gaunt sky]

ok

[rose pasture]

firewall oO never had to open a firewall port to enter a server...

[grim mica]

Alternatively, block the IP at the firewall but easy to get around that these days, password is the better option

[rocky pecan]

We're hosting Satisfactory, and have been for awhile. The Desync, Rubber Banding that occasionally happens, and things like inability to build w/o reconnecting is normal?

[unborn basin]

Without knowing more about your configuration, this generally means that nothing was listening where the API should be so the client didn't get a response.

So in some fashion the network traffic didn't get to your server for it to answer your client.

[rose pasture]

its a server on Gportal..

[grim mica]

The aforementioned ones are subject to your connection/latency/server performance. I personally have pretty limited issues with performance, U8 -> 1.0 fixed alot of the problems but there are still bugs present (i.e build mode selection not staying). For the last one - is your build gun locking up and numbers dont work? Open a machine and close it, my understanding is that it happens with copy/pasting machines.

[unborn basin]

If you're using Windows you can open PowerShell and type tnc [your server name or IP here] -port 7777 and make sure the test says true.

Would look something like:

PS C:\Users\Antix> tnc localhost -port 7777

ComputerName     : localhost
RemoteAddress    : ::1
RemotePort       : 7777
InterfaceAlias   : Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
SourceAddress    : ::1
TcpTestSucceeded : True

[rocky pecan]

It's a server hosted in a data centre, physical box, with people across the world connecting. So might go have to look at our DDOS Filters for the rest

[pliant stratus]

@drifting hatch Sorry to bother you Zatie, i saw you were also on PFsense and having issues, did you get it resolved? I'm still stuck unable to connect. same setup i think.

[unborn basin]

I get desync and rubber banding on localhost tbh.

So the server architecture is definitely imperfect.

[drifting hatch]

I did yes, let me just check what I did xD

I changed this part of the ruleset

Seemed to cure it xD

[pliant stratus]

thank you. i'll try that. i think i've made such a mess of my pfsense router..

[drifting hatch]

It has a lot of configuration options that is true xD

[pliant stratus]

and i am nowhere near good enough at networking to know what most of them do 😄

[unborn basin]

NAT is network address translation and means that when traffic arrives from a certain IP or is destined for another IP, it may be translated to be something else to avoid collisions in the address space, like if you somehow had two houses at the same exact street address.

[grim mica]

Nat reflection should already be set to 'use system default' if you are creating a new rule and 'filter rule association' just binds the NAT statement to a specific ACL, either shouldnt be needed as the default NAT creation will create an associated ACL on the proper interface

[pliant stratus]

yeah it was set to system default, set to pass, no change. so it's something else.

[grim mica]

Whats the environment? You are local to the server and trying to connect using the external IP?

[drifting hatch]

That's System -> Advanced

So default is effectively disabled

[pliant stratus]

local to environment. trying to connect locally and trying to connect externally. no dice on either. but the server console sees the attempt and accepts it. it's really weird.

[grim mica]

All reflection does is allow an internal host to reach the internal host via* the external IP rather than the internal IP of the NAT translation host, so if you arent doing that - dont need to worry about it

Is it on the same machine?

[pliant stratus]

no, different machine. windows client, unraid(docker) environment server

it worked in update 8

[grim mica]

Try to add -multihome=0.0.0.0 and restart it to the launch param

[pliant stratus]

on the server or client?

[grim mica]

Server execuatable, so probably alreaddy have -log -unattended, add the multihome as well

[pliant stratus]

ah. thank you. sorry for stupid question

[unborn basin]

Idk that that's all that stupid.

Let me see how many times I can add "that" to a statement and have it mean something else.

[grim mica]

Nah, not a stupid question - clarification on the request 🙂

[unborn basin]

I know what a quad zero route is and I still didn't understand that. I assume it means it binds on port and not host name.

[drifting hatch]

As in default v4 gateway?

0.0.0.0

[unborn basin]

Quad zero is a catch all for all traffic. It's usually low in specificity and the last route evaluated for unmatched traffic. That's why it's your default gateway.

[drifting hatch]

Yes absolutely, it should be the last catch-all

i.e. the highest metric

Unless you are employing a specific routing policy etc

[unborn basin]

Was just wondering what multihome meant but I was just thinking of a nc dump when searching for port listeners.

[grim mica]

Multihome (in a more generic term) is when there are multiple adapters on a machine, so if you had listeners on 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.200, 0.0.0.0 would bind to 'any/all' inbound traffic. If you specify the interface (192.168.1.100) it will listen on only that interface

[unborn basin]

Ah this makes sense.

[grim mica]

For Satis DS, multihome does some more things like truly disable IPv6 - this was especially an issue in U8 but shouldnt be needed in most cases with 1.0

[unborn basin]

My expertise is app dev but I know enough about infrastructure to be dangerous after being the one saddled with maintaining enough web servers heh.

[stone radish]

Hello, I have a dedicated server that we cannot find in the external network. And in my home network it is shown as offline. What can I do?

[drifting hatch]

I don't even know why v4 still exists - I've been using v6 for 15 years now and it's infinitely better in all respects.. Why the world is slow slow to migrate blows my mind xD

[unborn basin]

Wait until I tell you how much COBOL is still running out there.

[drifting hatch]

XD

In the banking world, probably quite a lot lolz

[unborn basin]

And government.

[drifting hatch]

That too yea xD

[grim mica]

I have been a sysadmin for nearly 20y and I cant even tell you once when I have deployed or maintained an IPv6 network, everything is still IPv4 and until there is a severe monetary reason for it to change, it simply wont

[unborn basin]

Unless you're deploying large-scale IoT I can't imagine it coming into play often.

[grim mica]

15 years ago, it was 'we are running out of ipv4 addresses'.. today there are still PLENTY
Use NAT properly and there really is no problem, 4 billion is a big number

[unborn basin]

Are you hosting in a Windows or Linux environment?

[drifting hatch]

It will progressively happen by force, there are no RIR blocks available anymore - even with like AWS you have to pay if you want a v4.. Slowly things will migrate but it's taking a looooong time

[drifting hatch]

There haven't been any RIR blocks available for a long time now

[stone radish]

windows

[drifting hatch]

You either get in a queue, or you buy them from someone else

[unborn basin]

Is the host your local machine or a separate machine?

[drifting hatch]

CG-NAT is an abomination, I feel sorry for anyone who is stuck behind that hack of a solution, and basically just ditch v4, sooner we do it the better XD

[unborn basin]

And tbh I had issues that after I left a Windows server build, it showed offline and stayed offline even though factory-server.exe was still running.

[grim mica]

Lsat month I filled out two forms for space reservation for a customer environment and they are getting two /28s and deployed them last week. All of their stuff is cloud based and we need a total of 3 external IPs for all HA operations.. so more than 10 will sit there doing nothing per circuit. Two major ISPs on the east coast US

[stone radish]

a separate computer

[grim mica]

For Tommy, see above and try to add -multihome=0.0.0.0 to the startup params

[drifting hatch]

Well sure, the BGP table being clogged up with these small CIDR denominations, a /28 is tiny, but yea you can get that kind of leased out stuff with relative ease

[grim mica]

If connecting internally you should see some console messages about client connecting, if not - check Windows Firewall for TCP and UDP 7777 allow

[drifting hatch]

When I started working in the core network 25 years ago, the RIRs were basically throwing out /16s or /18s

They don't have any to give out anymore.. allll gone XD

[topaz scarab]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Community_Tools

[unborn basin]

You can also verify that each machine can connect by trying this on your machine:
tnc remotehostname -port 7777
and this on the host machine:
tnc localhost -port 7777

[unborn basin]

I've already got my answer thank you.

[stone radish]

how does that work

[grim mica]

How are you launching the server?

[stone radish]

Ist hier auch ein Deutsch (schreibender oder sprächender) anwesend. da mein englisch sehr schlecht ist.

Is there also a German here (writing or speaking)? Since my English is very bad.

[mighty portal]

ja

[grim mica]

I can try visual, one sec

[stone radish]

schön hast du mein problem mit ver volgt

[mighty portal]

nein bin gerade dazu gekommen um was gehts

[mighty portal]

Wie hast du deinen Server installiert?

[stone radish]

@mighty portal auf einem Windows PC mit der epic server datei und habe auf Windows und dem Router die ports freigegeben

[mighty portal]

welche ip verwendest du?

also zum beitreten

[dusty vortex]

You can read more here - https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1283191576641798144
No fix yet other than trying with Linux which appears to be more reliable.

[frosty gale]

Is multihome still a supported argument

[grim mica]

Yes indeed

[dusty vortex]

Yes, not always needed by default but can help in some cases.

[stone radish]

@mighty portal über ein dyndns

[mighty portal]

Direkt am Router eingerichtet oder wie?

[steel osprey]

Offtopic and pls english

[mighty portal]

its not offtopic

[stone radish]

@mighty portal ist mit dem dem Router verbunden

[steel osprey]

Einrichten von DynDNS und Router haben nichts mit dem Dedicated server zutun

so offtopic und nutze google

[mighty portal]

es geht im grunde um dem server

[mighty portal]

lass privat schreiben

[steel osprey]

No. You host @home. server works fine and here is not the Discord for" How to configure my Homenetwork"

[steel osprey]

Gute entscheidung 😉

[dusk flower]

I'm constantly getting these errors on my dedicated server all of a sudden. It is crashing the entire process. Used to happen after a couple days, now it is happening every 10 minutes or so. Does anyone else see their on their servers?

0x000074f00589ca94 libc.so.6!UnknownFunction(0x9ca93)
0x000074f005929c3c libc.so.6!UnknownFunction(0x129c3b)

[steel osprey]

which distro is the hostsystem?

[dusk flower]

Ubuntu

like 24 LTS

[steel osprey]

and which versione 12.04, 14.04,....24.04?

can you post the output of

hostnamectl status?

[dusk flower]

OS: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS (6.8.0-45-generic), CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz, GPU: Intel PCI-id: 8086-3e92 (1043-8694)

Static hostname: hoth
Icon name: computer-desktop
Chassis: desktop 🖥️
Machine ID: 54aed20bbd8940faac898045964c01c7
Boot ID: ff873c6adcaa48e8b8047f44dfc4a01f
Operating System: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
Kernel: Linux 6.8.0-45-generic
Architecture: x86-64
Hardware Vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Hardware Model: ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING
Firmware Version: 3005
Firmware Date: Thu 2021-09-30
Firmware Age: 2y 11month 3w 3d

Its a dedicated baremetal box to this distro

[steel osprey]

ty. Never saw this error. Looks like, someting dont support some Functions

are you using proxmox?

[dusk flower]

Yeah - and its the same every time. Not using proxmox, the satisfactory server is the only thing on here atm

[wicked zephyr]

hi i have installed a private server i can play with firends ect but it shows 2 errors 1.LogAkAudio: Warning: UAkGameplayStatics::StopActor: Could not retrieve audio device. 2.LogNetPackageMap: Warning: FNetGUIDCache::SupportsObject: LightweightCollisionComponent /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level.Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.AbstractInstanceManager_2147473306.LightweightCollisionComponent_2147473265 NOT Supported. Can someone help?

[dusk flower]

Fresh install of Ubuntu for 1.0

[steel osprey]

Funny. I only know this error, when someone using an really old cpu or dont use hostmodus in proxmox

[wicked zephyr]

i have a ryzen 5 5600

[rapid spindle]

Audio warning doesn't matter because its a server.
The other warning I also get spammed with occasionally, its not a serious issue

[solemn laurel]

Has anyone found a way with the api to get a list of the connected players? either steamids or epic or just names?

[dusk flower]

Could it be that I don't have a correct option set in the BIOS? I also reset my BIOS when I reinstalled Unix because Fedora was giving me some problems. I'm not sure what I would need to turn on. ie I don't have Virtualization support turned on because I wasn't planning on using VMs

I just don't know how to troubleshoot this because the errors are so vague.

[quick mist]

I don't believe that's in the API currently

[dusty vortex]

The API only provides player count not who is online.
To obtain that info you would need to parse the log files

[frosty gale]

There does not appear to be an api function for that

[steel osprey]

its atm a really basic API.

[frosty gale]

Unless there's a server command to show that

[wicked zephyr]

ok thanks but how can i fix the second problem?

[frosty gale]

Since you can pass those and get response strings

[rapid spindle]

you can't :)
At least, idk how to

[solemn laurel]

Yeah I've implemented most of what I've found in there, wondered if I was missing something

[wicked zephyr]

banger :))

[solemn laurel]

I won't want to parse the log, that's just blech

[steel osprey]

Is absolutely not dependent on a server cmd. API and server cmds are different things

[solemn laurel]

You can run server commands from the api

[frosty gale]

The api supports sending server commands

[solemn laurel]

So if there was a command, that'd be great

[steel osprey]

i would check the API Docs, what is supported

[solemn laurel]

My investigations have said no to thateither

[steel osprey]

i know, but CMDs and API are two different things

an API can sometime do more than server cmds

[quick mist]

There is literally an API call for 'run this console command and return the output' so one is a subset of the other

[frosty gale]

Dude why are you still here

[rapid spindle]

This probably won't help but I also run a server on 8700K on RHEL, but I use the docker image. It's pretty stable, only occasional crashes with ~100+ hrs on the save with 4 players.

I don't get that specific crash.

[steel osprey]

and why you are still here?

[frosty gale]

This is like your 4th embarrassment today

Go take a break

[quick mist]

Play nice y'all

[steel osprey]

he cant. Is a little racist

[dusk flower]

I have thought about running the Docker image. I'm just not knowledgeable about docker.

[quick mist]

can we maybe dispense with the ad-hominems?

[winged nova]

Anyone having issues with dedicated server not restarting after the automatic restart shuts it down?

[steel osprey]

And yet another nonsensical post from you, where you have no idea what you're talking about; the main thing is to write something, you little racist

[quick mist]

Literally stop with the personal attacks please.

[past charm]

Server crashes when creating a game

[steel osprey]

He started, because i'm german an i read this all the day from that racist. But he is now on igno

[frosty gale]

The famous German race

[steel osprey]

Pls, can a Mod remove that guy?

[quick mist]

You too, knock it off sir or ma'am or other.

Attack peoples' line of reasoning, not people.

[frosty gale]

I can't help it this guy's like a gold mine

And today I'm a prospector

[quick mist]

Gold is not a resource relevant to Satisfactory; take it elsewhere

[steel osprey]

I reported him to discord for Racism. I hope it will soon be a thing of the past

[winged nova]

tf did I join into here lmao

[quick mist]

people being bad at being people. Best to move on to technical discussions if we can

[mighty portal]

would be better lol

[runic zinc]

So I noticed in my old U8 saves players who arent online still have their names.

But in 1.0 inactive players don't. Is there any setting or anything to turn this back on?

example>

[quick mist]

I have observed this behavior as well, but am not aware of any means to bring this back. Might be a good thing to submit to the Q&A site

[runic zinc]

Its strange, you would think if they removed it that it wouldnt show in either one, so I feel like this is a setting or something somewhere lol

But will do

[quick mist]

if it's a setting it's not one that's exposed or documented. There might be a console command or .ini file setting we don't know about

[runic zinc]

Yea sounds about right

[solemn laurel]

In the console, are the purple suggested commands considered cheats?

[quick mist]

Honestly what would or would not be considered a 'cheat' is up to a given server admin or the community around the server in question

for some, copying a save down to SCIM to change stuff would be kosher, to others that might be cheating.

which console commands are 'allowed' is the same thing: up to y'all

[solemn laurel]

There's a a boolean flag that locks some commands behind that flag

[winged nova]

I'll try posting again since it got lost in that mess lol:
Anyone having issues with dedicated server not restarting after the automatic restart shuts it down?
I wasn't having issues until I added a port forwarding rule for 7777 because some of my players couldn't connect. But I don't see how a setting in the router would affect the PC application.

[solemn laurel]

Thank you!

[frosty gale]

starting to wonder if it would actually be easier to create a new ubuntu vm than use WSL

[unborn basin]

Only thing I'm using WSL Ubuntu for is to host my docker container.

[frosty gale]

I cant figure out how to bridge wsl to my actual network so that I can give it some open ports to use

since portproxy only supports tcp

[unborn basin]

If you want to learn how to configure socat, that may be an option.

[sturdy parrot]

where are blueprint files saved for the dedicated server? I just made a blueprint maker, and saved a blueprint, but can't find the file location 😦

The wiki gives directories, but neither of them exist for me

[unborn basin]

Aren't blueprints client-specific?

[frosty gale]

where are blueprints normally stored

[sturdy parrot]

oh, do they get stored to the same place, just under a differrent folder for the different game name?

[grim mica]

Its where the save is located, in a separate folder

ServerSettings.7777...
\blueprints\ <worldname> \bluestuffstuff.bcp (or whatever the extension is) **
\server\savegame.sav

[unborn basin]

I had some issues with the Windows server acting dead despite being running after a user leaves, but never got as far as auto-restart. Linux build seems fine with auto restart.

[grim mica]

Kinda funny on that.. Linux said the server was going to restart the other day at midnight (I have it set to 24:00) and the time came and went (along with the countdowns in the top left) and never got disconnected. This was on Linux DS, on Windows it would always restart albeit it would take forever to do so

Manual start/stop takes about 30s to come up, with the automated restart it would take upwards of 5m

[unborn basin]

I guess I never stayed connected long enough to find out.

It threatened me and I found something else to do lol.

[dusty vortex]

Interesting... i too was online when the restart timer ticked down in game, my friend and i expecting to get booted, continued to bounce around the map just fine, and it just seemed completely seamless. (on my windows server)

[unborn basin]

Although I guess I did see a prompt in the status page that the save was changing.

[grim mica]

Yeah it created the 'blahblah_continue_0.sav' file and everything, just never kicked us

[unborn basin]

haha

[grim mica]

Maybe magic or its just not working, either way the UI needs more help

The restart says 'interval' in the GUI when its in fact tying to the machine clock?

[dusty vortex]

correct

[grim mica]

I had read others saying it was UTZ (GMT 0) but doesnt seem to be the case..
It even says interval (hours) lol.

UI/UX and dev team not talking? idk

[prime salmon]

How expensive is a server for satisfactory, like at home hosting?

[frosty gale]

0 dollars

[grim mica]

I think Mark summed up the current state of the game at the end of the 1.0 launch stream.. something along the lines of 'everything should be in a much better place than it was' - cant argue with that, but still not the amount of polish that Snutt was teeming with during the final dev streams up to launch IMO

[dusty vortex]

i at first suggested it was UTC... which some users suggested that did align with the time they set, but others suggest it restarted at the appropriate time for their time zone, so its likely that its tied to the timezone that is set on the server.
for rented servers this might be set to UTC/GMT 0, or some users so im starting to think that some servers may well not be configured with a timezone that is relevant to the users timezone.

[prime salmon]

Wdym

[frosty gale]

i mean it costs nothing to do at home hosting ?

like what would the costs be

electricity I guess

[prime salmon]

No but how expensive is the server itself like the hardware how good does it need to be

[grim mica]

True, I think most cloud platforms default to GMT0 so makes sense in those cases

Its running a copy of the game, so the best you can get

[unborn basin]

I run the server on my gaming PC while playing other crap.

[frosty gale]

any x86 desktop pc made in the last like 6 years

[unborn basin]

You just need like 6GB RAM.

[prime salmon]

Thanks

[dusty vortex]

yer, the more feedback we get, the better the picture we can paint and thus inform others with more accuracy 🙂

[unreal crystal]

depends on where you are and what you need. If you're clueless; usually a couple dollars per slot for a gaming server setup by nitrado/etc.

if you're like i am tech lord; not gaming tech lord; and in EU; there's some great prices; and if you're in the US prices suck in comparison i can't find a single server that compares wtaf.

[unborn basin]

I thought I saw servers for like... less than $15 a month which is surprisingly trivial imo.

[unreal crystal]

ie a 3600 for 45 euros; or like $80-100+ in the US. and like; the conversion rate isn't that lmao.

[prime salmon]

Im in Europe and with 3 other friends who live in same country and what is a good hosting

[grim mica]

Ive heard decent things about IndifferentBrocolli for EU folks

[elfin ether]

I run it at home on a 1200€ pc i build as server and it is waay overkill. You can build a 2017+ i5 rig with 8-16gb ram to host if you want to have it at home

[unreal crystal]

depends on how tech literate you are; sounds like you want something like gunter's recommendation. otherwise if you host multiple games + have tech skills; it's easy to point at hetzner as a great deal. servers for 40-60+ euro a month bare metal all yours.

[dusty vortex]

ive previously shared some suggestions for hosts:
⁠#dedicated-servers message
#dedicated-servers message
tho with any host, milage can vary.

[prime salmon]

Well i already have a server at home but its 8 gb ram so dont know if its enough

[elfin ether]

Do you have a slot available?

[prime salmon]

Yes

2

[unborn basin]

I was gonna amuse myself and try to jam Wolveix's image into Azure Container Apps but the run cost for an image with that memory ratio on the consumption plan was still gonna be like $100 a month. Not worth the putzing around.

[elfin ether]

You could use it as a rwason to ug

[unborn basin]

Reason to upgrade lol.

[elfin ether]

Ram is pretty cheap so if the cpu is fine

[unreal crystal]

yea ddr4 is like $50 for 64gb at this point; if not close

[prime salmon]

Yeah the cpu is my old gaming pc cpu its a i5 12900k

[unreal crystal]

okay i was off by 50%. but yea; just throw some ram in there and be good to go then

[unborn basin]

I'm running on like an i5 4670K or whatever. You'll be fine.

[prime salmon]

Thank you for advice ☺️

[elfin ether]

12600k?

That should be more than enough, dont starve it with so little ram, go atleast 32gb

[prime salmon]

Yeah

[unreal crystal]

yea 32gb is the price i was thinking of at $60; there's no reason to not run at least that

[elfin ether]

If you can afford to

[prime salmon]

Sorry idk computer stuff uts my dads but he doesnt use it

[elfin ether]

You will be able to run a satisfactory server and a load of other stuff at the same time

[prime salmon]

Yeah ive about €150 for server

[elfin ether]

Can experiment with running a website or mknecraft server or other fun stuff you like

[prime salmon]

Is there a hood tutorial on how to set it up?

[unreal crystal]

my ultimate goal; get my homelab running on solar. it's only like 120 watts continuous or so

check the pins

or the channel description

[elfin ether]

There is loads, but if you have a monitor i woul install fedora or ubuntu on it and follow the dedicated server guide on the wiki

[elfin ether]

Thats pretty cool

[frosty gale]

use server manager

[elfin ether]

Also you shared your ip address

[unborn basin]

Port is open and connecting fine.

[hazy sierra]

ty and oops

[frosty gale]

comcast customer detected

[unborn basin]

God bless dynamic DNS.

[hazy sierra]

reeee lol

[frosty gale]

comcast ips are pretty static thankfully

[unborn basin]

I used to never lose my DCHP lease with Xfinity but it's changing a lot more often now.

[unreal crystal]

no they're not lmao; i can get 5 different IPs in as many cycles of my gateway

[frosty gale]

same

[hazy sierra]

my friend setting up server for us

i was using join game not server manager

oops

[frosty gale]

I had the same ip from comcast for 6 or so years

[unreal crystal]

erry time my power goes out i get a new IP

[frosty gale]

only changed very recently

[frosty gale]

guess they dont love you as much

[unreal crystal]

sounds like you're using their hardware then and not linked directly to their gateway for IP distribution.

[unborn basin]

It used to be a lot more stable for me than it is now.

[hazy sierra]

so i put the ip in the server manger ?\

[unreal crystal]

xd i run my own router and just set mine to bridge mode so it requests new crap every restart

[unborn basin]

Yes.

[hazy sierra]

with the :7777 or nah?

[unreal crystal]

no

[unborn basin]

That's default so not needed.

[frosty gale]

I only use their modem because its better than buying one

[hazy sierra]

my friend set up the server not me and im having issues joining

[thorny dew]

Yeah guess they changed dhcp lease lengths

[hazy sierra]

oh okay that makes senese

wait im not creating one ]

im trying to join my friends

[unreal crystal]

ngl it's weird and it caught me off guard; so it doesn't happen that often; but when i break my homelab i can see myself cycling like 30 diff IPs so it's not hard to request a new one

[surreal kestrel]

I use my own router, with theirs in bridge mode, and mine only changed recently because they did major network maintenance in my area

[unreal crystal]

and when the powers/internet out out for a good time

[surreal kestrel]

Before that I could have power out even for an hour or two at a time and I'd keep my lease

[frosty gale]

it was only recently that I had to actually setup a dynamic dns server just in case

[unborn basin]

This is not creating a server. Server Manager is just a list of servers you've joined you can choose from.

You'd have to enter an admin password on the appropriate tab to be able to actually administer it.

[hazy sierra]

oh

[hazy sierra]

i dont understand

[frosty gale]

his servers not accessible then

unless you entered the wrong ip/port

[hazy sierra]

i deleted the :7777

[unborn basin]

I sent some information over DM but yeah either it's down or the network configuration is inaccessible.

[frosty gale]

I cant reach it either

I cant reach the api

[unborn basin]

That was unrelated, sorry wrong window heh.

[quasi kettle]

I’m kind of amazed it’s been over a week from launch and they’ve just left blueprints alignment completely broken this entire time.

[frosty gale]

I guess the idea is that theres going to be one big master patch to fix everything

[quasi kettle]

Yeah that’s still a really lousy approach to game breaking bugs.

[broken iron]

Hey anybody got a fix for the network quality resetting to manual all the time?

it wont stay i tried every way to set it to ultra but after every restart or setting change it just goes to medium

[noble sluice]

I'm leasing a VPS in Germany for €4.5/month.
Got 4 vCPU, 6 GB RAM.
Hosting a game there now if anyone want to test...
PM me for adress and password.

[vast pivot]

is a server transferrable between windows pcs by just moving the server folder? or is there system-specific setup in the config?

[light inlet]

What's broken with blueprints? I only started trying to use them for the first time and it felt off

[noble sluice]

Savegames can easily be downloaded and uploaded from and to servers within game itself...

[vast pivot]

thank you, but that wasn't exactly my question ><

[grim mica]

At least you have nudge.. but blueprints dont really align against stuff, its either 2-3 ticks into or outside of the target connection point

[noble sluice]

It's easier to spinn up a new server and transfere save-game, than to transfere a server.
Then again i all depends on which kind of server you're running. Docker or non-docker.
Or just copy the folder and see what happens....

[thorny dew]

If you check the wiki, there are some specific directories for windows that contain config files and whatnot

[frosty gale]

I think I give up on wsl

just going to wait for them to patch windows binaries

[unborn basin]

Time to DL Docker Desktop and run that using the Ubuntu distro you've already installed. Honestly it just feels so much easier.

[noble sluice]

Or just activate Hyper-v and spinn up an Ubuntu VM...

[celest gale]

Out of curiosity, is blueprint delete mode currently bugged? Its hard crashing our server for some blueprints, we just had 2/3 crashes in a row, the server runs fine its just that one apparent bug

[broken iron]

Hey anybody got a fix for the network quality resetting on the server to manual all the time?
it wont stay i tried every way to set it to ultra but after every restart or setting change it just goes to medium

[tender thicket]

Make sure the config is writable or something?

I never have that problem

though im on linux and you might not be

[south marten]

If I use the epic dedicated server download is their a way to change the world to one that already exists?

[tender thicket]

just sounds like a file write perm problem to me

[broken iron]

im reinstalling the server rn and setting it up again i hope thats maybe gonna fix it

[tender thicket]

U can upload a save to the server thru the server manager in game

Super easy

[south marten]

Bet

[tender thicket]

Yeah thats worth a try

[broken iron]

i did move it from my one server to this other server that i have

[tender thicket]

Did u manually move it?

[broken iron]

maybe some files were corrupted that couldnt be detected

yes

[tender thicket]

Like copy paste?

Then yeah

id assume a file perm issue

or that its an old config

[broken iron]

yeah ptobs

[tender thicket]

and its bugged with 1.0 bc of the changes

id try just outright deleting it

[broken iron]

i didnt update before transferring so that just natural selection at this point

[south marten]

And for the ip do I just use my pc ip?

[tender thicket]

Let the game rebuild it

[tender thicket]

On the local network, yeah

[broken iron]

it was also giving me ping spike all the time like 400 ping

[south marten]

Outside network?

[tender thicket]

If u want ur friends to be able to play then u need to port forward

I cant help u there, u gotta look up how to do that for ur router

[south marten]

I did but it’s still my pc ip right?

[tender thicket]

its different per router

[tender thicket]

no, ur public ip

[broken iron]

you need the WAN ip for that

[tender thicket]

google 'whats my ip'

use that one

[broken iron]

yeah thats the easiest way

[south marten]

Alr bet thx

[tender thicket]

Yeah I hear similar things like that from other updaters

[broken iron]

and then forward port 7777

[tender thicket]

a fresh start is defo the way to go

[broken iron]

oh well i hope this fixes it then might not have to get those new components involved

ill give you an update for future questioners

[tender thicket]

Yeah it should do

sure

[frosty gale]

Im pretty sure its stuck

[broken iron]

nah you can change it in the server dashboard

and in the files

i think petes pretty damn right about all this

[tender thicket]

Dont change anything in the files manually

[broken iron]

[tender thicket]

If u wanna change a config setting do it thru ur launch arg

like the max players thing

u dont do that through the file u do it in launch args

[broken iron]

what about vehicle autosave kicking

yk anything about that?

[tender thicket]

i dont think the game takes kindly to manual file editing

[tender thicket]

elaborate

[frosty gale]

but it doesnt save

[broken iron]

theres one bigg ahh apply button down there

[frosty gale]

yea that doesnt seem to always work

[broken iron]

it should be working if it were right as far as i know

[tender thicket]

Yeah but theyre saying that the save doesnt properly save

[broken iron]

hmmmm

[tender thicket]

which I cant fully speak to

I do think ive had my network qual reset on my server a few times

idk if thats the game or me tho

havent fully been paying attention

One bug that does annoy me tho

is that when ur crafting stuff

the 'total' number given by the crafting bench is one less than ur actual total in ur inv

it srsly irks me

[broken iron]

maybe if a friend joins with medium

[tender thicket]

yup could be

[broken iron]

never had that before

[tender thicket]

havent labbed it out much

[broken iron]

oh damn

i think steam for no reason saved my server

now i have my old settings back

but its already on ultra

[tender thicket]

If its reloading ur old config files thats probably bad

[broken iron]

and its on ultra in GameUserSettings too

[tender thicket]

Thats what ur trying not to do

[broken iron]

i deleted allat

[tender thicket]

didnt u just say steam tried to restore them?

or is that something different

[broken iron]

no i tried restoring them before reinstalling them

but it didnt find any to restore so i reinstalled to be safe

[tender thicket]

right

[broken iron]

gotta check tmrw morning to see if it chrashed again

[tender thicket]

the server restarts everyday

u know that right?

[broken iron]

yes but it restarts not chrashes

[tender thicket]

so if its restarting that doesnt immediately = a crash

[broken iron]

i have it restart at 0000

[tender thicket]

what crash error u getting

[broken iron]

and the chrash mostly happens at 5-8

wait

its something with root size mismatch and some more

ill get it rq

where are crash logs n stuff again

im restarted

got it

givin me a lot of that @tender thicket

[bronze ore]

Seems to be, having this happen right now as well, but now I can't even load a previous save it just insta crashes deleting blueprint from files didnt help can't even break the placed blueprint piece by piece either

[quasi kettle]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e3006c772a987f4a8ad889

[frosty gale]

I dont know why I keep coming back to fix this problem as if im ever going to find a solution

[glad nest]

been really impressed with the performance and all improvements in the dedicated server since 0.7.x and 0.8.x

had it running for 1 week, no crashes at all, and the performance is not a problem at all anymore

[broken iron]

has your network quality ever reset to medium?

[glad nest]

never checked before now, it has actually

not sure if that is after the last patch though

[broken iron]

have you reinstalled the server after 1.0

[visual mirage]

i run 120fps at ultra 4k on my dedicated with 8ms ping on LAN

the latency seems a bit high for a 10gbps network but idk

i have the game limited to 120

[glad nest]

also have 10ms on my lan server, not sure whys that but hasnt bothered me either

[broken iron]

ive got 10-20 but theres a lot of traffic on our rack anyways so its fine

[visual mirage]

i blamed this game for using 100% of a cpu core but it was another LXC (react/pm2/npm) screwing up

one core was sitting at 5300mhz 100% all day every day lol

[broken iron]

what specs you guys running?

[visual mirage]

14600k 64gb ecc

[broken iron]

ON THE SERVER?!?!?!?

[visual mirage]

yeah 🙂

[broken iron]

WHAAATTT

and the gaming machine?

[visual mirage]

5950x 32gb 3080 water cooled desktop

[broken iron]

GAH DAMN

Home hosted server right?

[visual mirage]

back to idle, the way i like it

[quasi kettle]

i mean my server is a 128gb ram Xeon(R) W-1390P. those aren't crazy numbers

[frosty gale]

are there am4/5 boards with embedded management

I assume there are

[broken iron]

no wayy yall got those in your homes

they gotta be rented

[visual mirage]

i'm old dude

[quasi kettle]

yeah that sits at my dad's place. its my server for everything

way cheaper than renting cloud resouces

[visual mirage]

shit didnt cost all that much compared to the rest of life

[broken iron]

wise words

[visual mirage]

my ex wife cost me a lot more

[broken iron]

racked server?

[quasi kettle]

don't remind me

[glad nest]

just running a basic ryzen 5600 for my lab

so im just a kid in here i see

[quasi kettle]

https://www.newegg.com/norco-rpc-4224/p/N82E16811219038

[visual mirage]

actually that "server" is in a corsair 900d case with like 14 fans, 12 7200 rpm exos disks and 12 ssds

with a 9500-16i lsi card and some shitty 6 port pcie to sata card

and a 360 AIO

idles at 135 watts

[grim mica]

My 'server' in the rack in the garage.. but my game server is a separate machine 9900k / 64GB / NVMe SSD
Xeon too slow to run game servers

[broken iron]

thats my lil baby

[quasi kettle]

yeah ive got a 360 aio to swap to my server next time im over there

[frosty gale]

I run game servers on some old xeons just fine for the most part

[visual mirage]

ohhhhhh spreken zi dutch

[deep turret]

thats great idle for the size

[broken iron]

This my main baby

[visual mirage]

would be better if i could get the cpu to get past C2 state with pcie cards installed. i spent weeks trying to make it work

[broken iron]

DEUTSCHLAND beste bruder

[quasi kettle]

thats mine

[visual mirage]

unraid?

[quasi kettle]

truenas, zfs under the hood

[broken iron]

damn what yall workin to afford that power cost

[visual mirage]

ah

i run zfsonlinux

i prefer console

[quasi kettle]

mine sips power honestly. i had to spend more to get the low power stuff

[broken iron]

100% load gonna be emptying that pocket

[quasi kettle]

its why i got the chip i did, instead of some stupidly power hungry amd piece of crap

[frosty gale]

my lab at full bore is like 60$ a month I guess

[quasi kettle]

yeah mine is wayyyyyy cheaper to run

[visual mirage]

i picked up a asus w680 motherboard to use a consumer cpu with quicksync

and ecc

[broken iron]

whats the hours on your save files?

[visual mirage]

pisses me off that it's the only motherboard that enables ecc and every single amd motherboard works with it

[frosty gale]

I run like all old deprecated hardware

[visual mirage]

can you rephrase?

[visual mirage]

that's the fun way

[quasi kettle]

i went with a Supermicro X12SCA-5F

[broken iron]

satisfactory server max save file hours

this shiz

[visual mirage]

Oh I just nuked it all when 1.0 came out and I played 5 hours

[broken iron]

wait you deleted the saves?

[frosty gale]

I probably wont be touching intel for a high end server build since the whole e core thing is shitty for servers

[broken iron]

all the work

[visual mirage]

Yeah I'm not attached lol

[quasi kettle]

yeah i had to really search to find ECC boards that weren't stupid expensive and not AMD power mongers

[broken iron]

damnnnnnnnnnnn

[visual mirage]

Me and my buddy make a new game every year or so and spend way too much time and get bored

Amd is more efficient under load but at idle intel is king

[frosty gale]

really wishing I could be playing right now

[broken iron]

had a 0.3 one with 3.820 hours and lost it when my drive wanted to commit

[visual mirage]

Hopefully amd figures out how to get low idle power soon

[broken iron]

damn

[quasi kettle]

amd isn't more efficent under load either except for massive epyc chips, which would suck for satisfactory

[frosty gale]

maxing out at 8 p cores is not the way

[quasi kettle]

amd isn't going to get low idle power as long as their dies are split in half

[visual mirage]

Bro my 14600k can crank out like 250 watts when I load it and my 5950x wouldn't ever hit those watts

[quasi kettle]

considering satisfactory uses 2 cores and is cpu capped, those 50 slow ass epyc cores don't help much

[quasi kettle]

my hair dryer out heats them both, but neither of these stats matter, its power for unit of work that does and you've ignored thtat.

[visual mirage]

My old "server" was a 3900x and it idled around 190 watts. I spent all this money switching to intel and only dropped 55 watts lmao

I was so disappointed

[broken iron]

i bet you guys know better than me but if i upgrade from the i3 4th gen to a r5 4500 will the server run better or does it not make any difference as the i3 is already just running at 40% max usage

[quasi kettle]

thats some crazy high idle cost. mine idles at like... 40w?

[visual mirage]

It's going to take a couple decades to pay off

[quasi kettle]

and most of those 40 wats are the damn hard drives

[visual mirage]

It's the fans and hard drives

They never spindown

[quasi kettle]

noctua fans are ❤️ in terms of high pressure low power

[visual mirage]

But also not being able to use my cstates cause aspm doesn't seem to work with lsi cards

[quasi kettle]

yeah thats really terrible

[visual mirage]

I estimate each hdd is "idle" at 5 watts that's 60 watts there

[quasi kettle]

that would be a total deal breaker for me. thats just llighting 20 dollar bills on fire

[frosty gale]

supposedly

only synthetic benchmarks though

I mean if the server already runs good it cant run any better

[broken iron]

i cant tell if its good yet but it seems alright

[quasi kettle]

neither of those options are something you'd want to pay for

[visual mirage]

Not much lol

[broken iron]

i need my homie to hop on and test out more by me exploring and him building

[frosty gale]

I didnt even know there was a 4500

[broken iron]

budget cpu

[deep turret]

look at thread, "percent" load is just missleading

[broken iron]

knowledge updated

[deep turret]

as there is generation bump it's still very relevant

[visual mirage]

If you don't care about ecc ram you can buy some really cool boards from aliexpress with late gen intel laptop cpus soldered to the board for cheap

[quasi kettle]

yeah both those options are ancient and slow. you want something with much higher single thread power if you're goinig to pay for it

[frosty gale]

right click the graph and swap to logical cores

[broken iron]

what now?

[quasi kettle]

yeah they have real cheap pagers / walkie talkies now too

[frosty gale]

on task manager

[broken iron]

yes

[deep turret]

go to process look for satisfactory server percent and compare

[quasi kettle]

dont ever buy crap from ali / woot / etc unless its like something super cheap its all counterfit crap

[deep turret]

unfortunately windows task manager does not give as useful performance info than linux htop

[visual mirage]

Look up erying

[broken iron]

a bit less

[visual mirage]

They actually are pretty good. Lots of reviews online

[deep turret]

so you are not currently bottelnecking

[visual mirage]

11600h cpu on motherboard for 200 bucks canadian

[deep turret]

but you are close

[broken iron]

ram bottleneck?

or wht

mayne sometimes i just dont know shit

[deep turret]

you would have to look at the ram perf tab to know better

it's about comparing stuff in task manager, because there is no direct info

[frosty gale]

6 p 8 e right

[broken iron]

i do be running the crackiest ram setup of all time too 4(2400)+2(1333)+4(2400)+2(1333)

no its just 12 at 1333

[visual mirage]

Yeah

[deep turret]

2x4 + 2x2 what

[visual mirage]

If I didn't want ecc and a ton of storage I'd buy one

And fast networking

[broken iron]

yes

[hidden forge]

mixed ram defaults to the lowest spec

[broken iron]

damn well

[deep turret]

especially if both channels are balanced

[visual mirage]

I doubt memory bandwidth is his bottleneck lol

[deep turret]

your space seems just enough for satisfactory, but performance wise it is absolutly horrible

[broken iron]

yes it cant even run doom

[frosty gale]

how do you gauge that

[deep turret]

why, satisfcatory server is memory intensive, and this setup hurts latency too

[broken iron]

thats why i was thinking of upgrading it for the future

[deep turret]

scroll up

[broken iron]

cause i have a 4500 and ram is cheap asf anyways

[deep turret]

4500 ?

[broken iron]

r5 4500

[visual mirage]

I'm sure 32GB/s is plenty. His cpu is the problem

[deep turret]

where did you see 32GB/s ?

[broken iron]

32?

thats my main system you got it mixed up

[visual mirage]

That's the bandwidth of 1333mhz memory

[deep turret]

you probably mixed things up

[broken iron]

oh ok

[deep turret]

this aint ddr5

[broken iron]

yeah its ddr3

[hidden forge]

depends on timings

[visual mirage]

Trust me, it's plenty fast enough

[deep turret]

also did you think we were talking about storage speed or something ?
do you know how much is satisfactory server needing ? (spoiler: a lot)

[mental minnow]

is there a console command to force a save?

[visual mirage]

My satisfactory server is currently using 3.67gb of ram

[mental minnow]

Should have checked the Wiki. Thank you @frosty gale !

[broken iron]

you got a low save time tho 5 hours isnt that much

[visual mirage]

Yo if you want to run satisfactory dedicated on some shit hardware... don't use windows

[deep turret]

and theirs is using 4GB rn and ?

[broken iron]

the more is on the save the more ram it uses it racks up pretty quickly

god damn i sound like a kid with those typos

[visual mirage]

The 3.67gb is for the entire os running the dedi

[deep turret]

nice for you and why are you talking about that ?

[visual mirage]

Cause you mentioned it

[deep turret]

I didnt

[visual mirage]

He has 2x4 and 2x2. That's 12gb. Plenty

I don't know what you're trying to argue here

[broken iron]

but at 1333

[visual mirage]

Dude half of that is more than fast enough

[broken iron]

and 8 gigs could be 2400

hm

[visual mirage]

Your memory speed is not the issue

[broken iron]

then what is the issue?

[deep turret]

I dont know what YOU are trying to argue, seems like you want to make like the topic was on something else
we were talking about your 32GB/s bandwidth talk

[visual mirage]

Shark I'm done with your hostility. Move on.

[broken iron]

Yall just calm down its fine

[deep turret]

?

[visual mirage]

Your cpu is pretty shite

[deep turret]

is that suposed to scare me or something ?

[visual mirage]

What is wrong with you? I'm not even talking to you

Go away lol

[worldly apex]

Hello, Any BR or South American Server?

[visual mirage]

@broken iron I can help you switch to debian and you'll have a lot more memory available and less overhead

[worldly apex]

algum server br por ae?

[frosty gale]

why debian

[broken iron]

isnt debian complicated ash

[visual mirage]

Not really

[deep turret]

it's on the easy and supported side of linux distributions spectrum

[visual mirage]

Because debian is what I know and it's stable

[broken iron]

ill gladly accept that offer

[deep turret]

it have graphic installer

and several options

[visual mirage]

It's a bit complicated to setup steam and satisfactory but you could use a docker that takes care of it

[icy juniper]

Hello people, can anyone speak German??

[visual mirage]

I do it manually myself

[broken iron]

später

[deep turret]

though only english there

[broken iron]

can we DM?

[visual mirage]

What is on your server? Just satisfactory?

[icy juniper]

how come ???

[broken iron]

yes just satisfactory

and windows clearly

[deep turret]

because it's an internationnal server, and it needs to stay understandable for everyone, and stay easy to moderate

[broken iron]

not a clean install tho its a 64 gig ssd i found in one of the pcs in our basement

[visual mirage]

Yeah so you just instal it the same way you would install windows. Download debian bookworm net installer

I'd suggest using a ui like xfce to make it a bit easier for you to use

it uses slightly more resources than console but xfce is very very light

[deep turret]

especially if you dont run like 3 4k 120hz screens

[broken iron]

do i install debian then xfce or is there a xfce debian?

sorry i dont know anything about linux

[visual mirage]

the installer will ask what packages you want to install, select xfce

[broken iron]

kinda only got into jailbreaking iphones but that didnt last

[visual mirage]

i honestly havent used the ui installer in a decade or more lol so i cant really remember the process

[broken iron]

oh ok

[visual mirage]

i could install one in a LXC and see what the process looks like

[deep turret]

default installer interface is like the windows advanced one
then you have several other level of advanced but you can stay on simple preset, and it will probably offer you a xfce one

[visual mirage]

xfce is really simplified and not many programs pre-installed

you'll have a desktop, file manager, browser etc like windows

and you can open the terminal in a window like command prompt

[broken iron]

iso usb to install right?

[visual mirage]

yeah

[deep turret]

the hardest part will probably to visually find the buttons on the new interface and get used to it (even if it's similar)

[broken iron]

my ass still on the download page fs

[visual mirage]

the x64 net install

[broken iron]

too many options

[visual mirage]

i cant send links

[frosty gale]

just like my mackintosh

[visual mirage]

64-bit PC netinst iso

https ://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[broken iron]

thx

[visual mirage]

i can only download at 7mB/s lol gimme a few

[deep turret]

you almost triggered it, you can do cdimage.debian.org/.. without scheme and it work usually

[broken iron]

havent used rufus in a while

we good?

[visual mirage]

id select uefi

target system

[broken iron]

no options

[visual mirage]

nice!

[deep turret]

are you sure it will nicely support it though ? I dont know how old can 4th gen intel run on

[visual mirage]

it's nice to have options 🙂

[deep turret]

well

[visual mirage]

it's more if he has any weird pcie shit

it should all work fine

or like a usb wifi card or something

[broken iron]

only got that good ol GT710 on there

[deep turret]

they still should have the option there
the other way is GPT with uefi only (no option)

[broken iron]

i have a keyfob pc on witch tho its in a 1x slot

im sure it only pulls power tho

[visual mirage]

anyone here use docker to install/run their dedi? that's a topic im not versed in

i think it's his easiest path though

[broken iron]

can i start etching or anything else i need to do

[deep turret]

if docker comes preinstalled

[visual mirage]

apt install docker -y

[deep turret]

but dont you have to set it up a bit

[visual mirage]

no but debian has kind of older versions of things, hopefully it installs one that plays nice with the docker repo he uses

[broken iron]

btw how will i remotely manage the system how i am doing it rn?

[visual mirage]

which is why it's so stable lol

how do you do it now

[broken iron]

TW

[deep turret]

bookworm is not so old

[visual mirage]

ssh is the defacto standard

[broken iron]

TeamViewer

[frosty gale]

yo same

[visual mirage]

teamviewer works on there too

[broken iron]

ok nice

so i can check from my phone xD

[visual mirage]

debian uses a package manager called apt

apt install, apt remove, apt update

[deep turret]

this is giving me reminiscence

[visual mirage]

there's a visual interface for it though in xfce

[thorny dew]

Docker has a guide on installing. I recommend checking their compose install guide too

[deep turret]

iso

[visual mirage]

idk try the recommended way

[thorny dew]

Compose makes management 10x easier imo

[broken iron]

what ever the fuck this means

[deep turret]

yes, linux bootstrap needed on the usb

[visual mirage]

yes

[broken iron]

clicked

[south marten]

i am using the epic dedicated server and am trying to upload/join my server and i cant figure it out if anyone could help me thatd be great thanks

[broken iron]

what time zones you guys in

getting kinda late and i got work in the morning

[visual mirage]

EST -5:00

[deep turret]

did you follow the official wiki ?

[visual mirage]

it's 6:25pm

[south marten]

i watched the video

[frosty gale]

you just import it using the server manager

[visual mirage]

do people use the thmhoag docker repo?

[south marten]

that doesnt help

[deep turret]

they said they struggle to join

[broken iron]

damn

[frosty gale]

you need to be more specific about your issues

[south marten]

ok

[deep turret]

I dont know, the most used and supported here is wolveix one

[broken iron]

im in CEST 00:26 AM

huh

[visual mirage]

i feel like the linux install instructions are pretty straight forward

[broken iron]

retry?

[deep turret]

was the usb size big enough ?

[visual mirage]

copy/paste commands into the terminal

[broken iron]

64 gigs

[south marten]

I have a home server and am trying to set it up for my firends to join i have the epic dedicated server installed but i cant figure out how to join it or set it up past launching it and i also need to upload a world to it

[deep turret]

should be plenty enough

did you fully wait the iso download end ?

[visual mirage]

yeah thats more than enough space... is it faulty lol

[broken iron]

should i format in LFAT32 or NTFS?

[broken iron]

yes

plenty

[deep turret]

LFAT32 (default) is best

[broken iron]

ok

[broken iron]

well fuck i forgot

[visual mirage]

you could try balenaEtcher

[broken iron]

im actually such an itdiot

[frosty gale]

have you added the server to your server manager in game and tried joining?

[broken iron]

its my logon key

i need to get a different usb

and rewrite it with my logon

[deep turret]

what ? but you clicked yes at the full erase dialog

[broken iron]

its in my pc for days at a time

[south marten]

i play tried using my ip yes

[visual mirage]

To create a bootable USB drive from Microsoft Windows or Mac OS a usable choice is Rufus. Warning: Rufus has 2 writing modes "ISO" and "DD" mode, which you can select just before writing begins. For Debian installer images or Debian live images, you MUST select the "DD" writing mode -- ISO mode will alter the copy of the image on the target media (confirmed August 27, 2021, using rufus version 3.15).

[broken iron]

yeah im still logged in

[frosty gale]

and what happened when you did that

[south marten]

failed

[visual mirage]

gotta use DD mode

[broken iron]

if i log out i might not be able to log back in

lemme try to save this all real quick

[frosty gale]

failed in what way

[south marten]

here il send the error

[visual mirage]

DD mode

[broken iron]

one sec

[deep turret]

hmm, ok so this is a specific debian thing sorry

[visual mirage]

the main reason i use debian is because of the package manager. i havent liked the others i've tried

and slackware is the WORST

which is what unraid is based on

[broken iron]

ok we good lemme get another stick

[south marten]

it just says its not online

[frosty gale]

is the server on the same machine youre joining from

[deep turret]

uploading will be straightforward once you can join, joining is the hard part

[south marten]

same network different pc

[visual mirage]

so am i reading your memory screenshot correctly? you're using 6.7gb ram total while satisfactory dedi is running?

[frosty gale]

and what ip are you using to join the server

[visual mirage]

with 5.1gb cached

[south marten]

the ipv4 i get when i open my ethernet settings

[broken iron]

Yes

[deep turret]

the ethernet settings of the server machine ?

[visual mirage]

what did your cpu usage look like

oh i see it here

[broken iron]

30-50%

[south marten]

yes is there a different ip i need?

[frosty gale]

so you are using the local ipv4 of the server machine to join

[south marten]

i would think so

[visual mirage]

does it run poorly? should be running fine if your cores arent maxed

[deep turret]

I just want to make sure you are not reading the ip of the pc you want to connect from

[broken iron]

its fine but i kept getting high ping spikes and crahses after a couple hours for no reason

[frosty gale]

does the server show any errors

[south marten]

i remote desktoped into it and in network i went to ethernet and under properties i picked ipv4 and tried to connect with that

[frosty gale]

you picked the right ethernet adapter right

[visual mirage]

if you you want, i can teamviewer into your debian install when you get it running and voice chat with you showing you what im doing and how to get around

can get steam and satisfactory installed

[south marten]

theres only 2 and 1 says its connected to the internet

[visual mirage]

i know it's late but maybe tomorrow sometime

[deep turret]

you probably can also get it from the remote desktop connection setup then, if you want to double check

[broken iron]

goddamn i got the oldest stick possible i guess