dedicated-servers

[icy oar]

on the mini pc

how is display not a requirement for that

[desert walrus]

They're hosting on windows

[deep turret]

oh

[icy oar]

Ye

[deep turret]

it will be more difficult then

[desert walrus]

With more than 4 players you'll also likely eventually run into a performance limit on the 2600k but it should be plenty to get started

[deep turret]

unless it really is a full pc

[icy oar]

i could boot it onto linux, but i dont feel like learning a whole new os

[icy oar]

its a mini pc

an old shuttle xpc cube

[deep turret]

IIRC more player does not put more contraint in the main loop, only overall and RAM load is increasing

so it should not make it worse that much on the cpu

but on RAM it mint make it even more a problem

[desert walrus]

My understanding is that the primary effect is the addition of a nother physics calc

@icy oar I wouldn't even bother putting in that 5550, just use the igpu

[icy oar]

oh ok, i hope it boots with the igpu

gimme a few minutes

[desert walrus]

I don't know why it wouldn't

[icy oar]

well, ive been having trouble with the mini pc

[deep turret]

I mean cpu load will indeed increase, but cpu constraint will probably not that much

[icy oar]

tried putting my old gtx 1060 into it, and it just wouldnt boot or be responsive

it did output display, just, couldnt get past the "american megatrends" screen

[desert walrus]

Might just be underspecced psu

[deep turret]

did you check for power

yep

[icy oar]

its 500watts

[desert walrus]

Should've at least booted

But either way, that doesn't really matter

Just try to boot on the igpu

[deep turret]

ok no bios card, you would need uefi probably

[icy oar]

oki dokies, ill try

[deep turret]

how old is the minipc

[desert walrus]

2nd gen core so not new

[deep turret]

satisfactory dedicated server is not easy on resources

[desert walrus]

It's 4c8t at 3.5ghz

[deep turret]

even with linux I would not bet it works fine

[desert walrus]

So enough for early-mid game at least

[deep turret]

the 3.5Ghz does not tell much

[desert walrus]

I'm aware

Those are still solid chips though

[deep turret]

I will check the chip to get an idea

[desert walrus]

I wouldn't expect to make it to late game by any means

Anyhow, I'm going to take off in about half an hour

[deep turret]

ok it looks like just enough

but if it is a mini pc part it may be under some restricted settings

btw for such a build, windows will really be a f* p* in the a*

now

I mean if you run too old windows, the dedicated server will not run

and if you update your windows it will straight not want to run because not "compatible anymore" and will take too much resources on its own

I'm not sure the dedicated server is able to run on xp or alike

[icy oar]

ok i have set up the mini pc again, had to rebuild it cus i was mad at it

ok its up

oop

buncha windows updates

wait a sec this thing has hd grpahics 3000??

nvm its worse than the hd5550

[deep turret]

you dont need it to use as server anyway

[icy oar]

just usin it as a dedicated satisfactory server for friends :D

[deep turret]

as we said be careful with ram usage

6GB is barely enough for the dedicated server to run ALONE
windows usually use 4GB from boot

[icy oar]

i have a friend whos bringing over some more ddr3 ram, 4 sticks of 4gb

[deep turret]

especially if you updated windows to latest version, it is not designed to run on such hardware anymore

[icy oar]

its just on windows 10

cant run windows 11

[deep turret]

ok

for windows your hardware will very soon go end of life

if it is not already in the red zone

[icy oar]

its at about.. 56% ram usage, and 5-10% cpu usage

[icy oar]

ik ik, im planning on getting a smol little ryzen sff build

[deep turret]

Its not for linux though

[icy oar]

anyways, i have it all up now,

[deep turret]

it's typically the sweet spot for running linux, you have a well working solid built old computer, and windows will not run anymore on it, but linux may be very fine

[icy oar]

whats the first step :3

[deep turret]

for dedi ?

[icy oar]

yesh

[deep turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[icy oar]

eheh...

toots a 3rd gen i5

i have 2nd gen i7

and half of the minimum ram...

im optimistic

[deep turret]

as I said earlier you will have to run update 8 mandatorily here

update 8 is less heavy on the ram

especially for starter saves

[icy oar]

so, experimental dedicated server?

[deep turret]

yep

[icy oar]

gotcha

[deep turret]

take only half the ram of the update 7 build for medium saves

but strictly speaking it will still need 4GB absolutly available

[icy oar]

its slowly installing it

[deep turret]

you enabled experimental version ?

[icy oar]

uhh im installing the experimental dedicated server from epic games..

[deep turret]

ok

[icy oar]

is that not..?

the correct way?

[deep turret]

if you selectered experimental version then that's it

[icy oar]

Ya

[deep turret]

I was checking, because on steam it's a toggle setting, not a different software

[icy oar]

ohh

icy

is it okay if i share a pic of my mini pc here? just wanna show the rediculousness of it

[deep turret]

I guess it's ok, but I would not recommend it
unless you have something specific to show / ask for

[icy oar]

just a tiny bit of redneck engineering

it comes with a 92mm fan, but its too loud

so i had a noctua fan laying around

[icy oar]

anyways

its installed now

what do

im so confused

none of this goes over how to start it on epic games

wha

what is this????

pls

help

i dunno how to set this up

???

[glad nest]

docker run \
--detached \
--name=satisfactory-server \
--hostname satisfactory-server \
--restart unless-stopped \
--volume /path/to/config:/config \
--env MAXPLAYERS=4 \
--env PGID=1000 \
--env PUID=1000 \
--env STEAMBETA=false \
--memory-reservation=12G \
--memory 16G \
--publish 7777:7777/udp \
--publish 15000:15000/udp \
--publish 15777:15777/udp \
wolveix/satisfactory-server:latest```

there you go

[icy oar]

can i change any of these

since, i want more than 4 players on,

and i dont have 16gb memory

i have 6

[glad nest]

yes

6gb is probably way to little

minimum recommended is 12

[icy oar]

ik ik,

[glad nest]

i am unsure if server will even boot with less than 8

[icy oar]

im getting more soon

i uhh cant type in the command thiny

was i supposed to?

[glad nest]

i just assumed you were on linux but now i see images

so probably not

[icy oar]

im.. not on linux

windows

10

[glad nest]

nah you're on your own mate

[icy oar]

:(

[glad nest]

only touching windows for games

[icy oar]

is it really that bad for dedicated servers?

[glad nest]

not bad but linux is better

[icy oar]

how?

[glad nest]

less overhead and normally better support

[icy oar]

how does linux have better support than windows

[glad nest]

more people use it for servers i'd expect

[icy oar]

hm :(

[glad nest]

or game servers that is

[obsidian moon]

It says how to start up the server with CMD command

[glad nest]

but tbh its no point wasting time with 6gb ram

it wont boot

[icy oar]

but

[obsidian moon]

Yeah 6gb is way too little

[icy oar]

for like a test

[glad nest]

it wont boot mate

[icy oar]

does it use 99% of the ram instantly or something?

[glad nest]

i'd guess your windows is already using 2gb

so that leaves 4 for the server

[icy oar]

its using, 3.5

[glad nest]

it wont manage to load half the assets

[obsidian moon]

Even regular games use up to 8-12 let alone a server

[icy oar]

ok ok, hypothetically, i have 16gb ram, what would the next step be?

[glad nest]

follow the instructions

e.g. install steamcmd
install satisfactory

[obsidian moon]

You can boot it manually through windows cmd

[icy oar]

but it mentions two different, options

im confused

[obsidian moon]

You can choose wether to start it from steam or Epic Games

[icy oar]

theres no instructions, reading the wiki is like watching someone go on a tanget on a subject, slighly mention a different subject, then go on a tangent on that subject and completely ignore the first subject

its impossible

[glad nest]

we've all used the wiki pal

its not hard

[icy oar]

:(

[glad nest]

if you dont want to do that figure out docker for windows

and you have a plug n play server

[icy oar]

ok ok, what is docker and how do i set it up

[deep turret]

go in the server files

[obsidian moon]

I don't want to sound rude, but if you don't see those explanations as instructions, maybe a server is not for you :/ It clearly are instructions you just have to follow them

[deep turret]

you dont need to

and it will run slower

[icy oar]

they're not instructions though.. what are you saying? i should shell out 20 bucks a month for a server me and my friends will occasionally play on?

[glad nest]

docker will not run it slower though

[icy oar]

thats not very nice

[deep turret]

yes it will, this is not last gen hardware and they are very ram limited

[glad nest]

with 6gb ram you wont get anywhere bare metal either

[icy oar]

^^

[icy oar]

ok then what

[deep turret]

you can automate all that with a .cmd

and that is the recommended way

so right click create text file (.txt)

then edit it

and write the FactoryServer.exe file path

• command line arguments

so instead of
\FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
its C:\epicgames\satisfactory-server-experimental\FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

[obsidian moon]

^^ I literally told him to do this except without the automated part.

Read the windows lines AKA the instructions

[icy oar]

none of those mention how to connect to it

[deep turret]

you have to start it before trying to connect to it

[icy oar]

im sending a pic, is what i did , correct?

[deep turret]

it miss the file of the server.exe

then put the path into double quotes

[icy oar]

double quotes?

[deep turret]

"

as in "this is double quoted"

[icy oar]

oki

Is this correct?

[deep turret]

the quotes stop at .exe

[icy oar]

oki thank u

[deep turret]

after that it is not the file path, it is arguments

[icy oar]

ooooh

oki oki, now what

do i save it a special way?

[deep turret]

now you will have to put the settings as arguments there

you can save it normally

[icy oar]

so i put the settings in double quotes too?

[deep turret]

no

[icy oar]

oh

[deep turret]

the double quotes are there so windows know the whole first thing is the file path

because it contains spaces

[icy oar]

uhuh

[deep turret]

so you will use that now

[icy oar]

ooh boi..

ill try

[deep turret]

you can go as the example
so -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -Port=7777 before the arguments that are already there

before all that you will want to add -multihome=<your_machine_ip> because of update 8

[icy oar]

could you, type it all out how i need to type it out?

[deep turret]

(use that settings instead of the example one though, because that is the default)

[deep turret]

I already almost wrote it all

[icy oar]

but like, in one continuous string

[deep turret]

you at least know how to copy text ?

[icy oar]

cant copy, dont have discord installed on the mini pc, but i do type fast

[deep turret]

so type fast

[icy oar]

gotcha

what do i type

i know u said those settings before,

but could you put them into a single line

my brain gets confused when you split them up and say "put this before that"

[deep turret]

go step by step and it will go fine, you can always ask for validation afterward with a picture

[glad nest]

you are one patient guy shark haha

[deep turret]

I still try to push them to follow instructions though

[icy oar]

and i am forever appreciative

[icy oar]

oki oki, ill try

wait how do i find out the ip for my pc specifically

[deep turret]

there

you see, if you know what to ask, we can more intuitively answer

[icy oar]

do i go "ipconfig" in a cmd

[deep turret]

yep that's the way to go

check the ip address line (not gateway, and not mask)

[icy oar]

ok now which one, the ipv4?

[deep turret]

yep

[icy oar]

ooh oki gotcha

Does this look ok so far?

[deep turret]

take care of Caps though

[icy oar]

do i have to capitalize them?

[deep turret]

it must be exactly like that

[icy oar]

aight aight

[deep turret]

we are talking about computer names, so : it is the name, or it is not recognized

[icy oar]

This good?

[deep turret]

yep
now put all you wrote before the -log -unattended that was already there

[icy oar]

so, all of that, goes before i do the log unattended

[deep turret]

you see arguments are space then -Name then = then the setting

[icy oar]

i did it

now..

wat

[deep turret]

let me check ?

[icy oar]

ya 2 sek

[deep turret]

congratulation

[icy oar]

:DDDDD

[deep turret]

the launch settings of the server are now ready

[icy oar]

WOOO

sickkk

[deep turret]

so you can technically try to launch it, but do not do it yet

[icy oar]

quick question

[deep turret]

you will not be able to connect

[icy oar]

if i plug in the mini pc to ethernet, will the ip change

[deep turret]

yes

[icy oar]

ah

gotcha

[deep turret]

it's recommended to set it as static in your router settings

because even on the cable it will still change

[icy oar]

i have no idea what it is on now

[deep turret]

use the ethernet cable preferally

it will be more stable

[icy oar]

aight, will do when i set it up FR

[deep turret]

ok so now you need to setup the firewall

so go to that step in the wiki

[icy oar]

oooh

port forwarding and firewall settings?

[deep turret]

yep

[icy oar]

is this something i need to do

[deep turret]

yes

[icy oar]

oookay

could u walk me through it?

[deep turret]

open powershell as admin

and execute the command

[icy oar]

did

alrighty

2 sec

-displayname do i change anything there or

idk how the command functions

[deep turret]

you can put what you want but it is explicit like that

[icy oar]

oki oki

gotcha

[deep turret]

you can copy past the whole command, it's recommended to past it in a notepad before to check everything is fine

so that you dont copy other things

and do bad things on your computer

[deep turret]

note you will have to change the ip when you will change network settings

so it match the ip of the computer

[icy oar]

Is this correct?

[deep turret]

👍

yep

[icy oar]

awesome

this good?

[deep turret]

looks ok

[icy oar]

Goodie

[deep turret]

your server computer is ready to let you connect to satisfactory dedicated server now

[icy oar]

ooooo

ok don’t I need to load up a specific world?

[deep turret]

you will do that with the control from the game

[icy oar]

oki dokies

What can I close down

And what do I save the text file as?

[deep turret]

close down ?

[deep turret]

you mean the one with the settings ?

[icy oar]

like, the cmd, powershell,

yes

[deep turret]

save it where it will be easy for you to access, on the server computer, with a name like "Starting Satisfactory server", it's as you want

but it is the file that will launch the server

[icy oar]

oki dokies

do i edit the .txt at the end to like, .bat or something?

[deep turret]

yes, I think .cmd it the best

[icy oar]

oki dokies

[deep turret]

now open the task manager

[icy oar]

uhuh

[deep turret]

so you can check the ram usage

and how the server is running

[icy oar]

btw i edited the name to include .cmd

and its not working

[deep turret]

there is no reason for it to not "work" wdym

[icy oar]

i double click it,

[deep turret]

you can rename it to .asdjahdoeijdoaijsdoaid if you want

[icy oar]

and it just opens as a text file

[deep turret]

you probably didnt rename it fully

it's probably named .cmd.txt

[icy oar]

is not..

2 sec

[deep turret]

check show file extensions in the file explorer settings

[deep turret]

this is .cmd.txt

[icy oar]

???

how

file explorer has settings?

[deep turret]

when you are in the file explorer settings, click

[icy oar]

i know im probably making you facepalm so hard

ooh

i see

oki

[deep turret]

so ?

[icy oar]

i enabled it and changed it

the icon changed

and i got a little warning

[deep turret]

ok

nice

open task manager now

[icy oar]

mhm

its sitting at 3gb

[deep turret]

are you ready to connect from another pc to the game ?

[icy oar]

nearly

[deep turret]

keep task manager open to check the server running

[icy oar]

gotcha

i have satisfactory open now

[deep turret]

make sur you are running the experimental version as well, it needs to match

[icy oar]

ya i am

[deep turret]

the 2 computers currently need to be connected on the same router/box in same local network

ok nice

[icy oar]

they are

:)

[deep turret]

ok so now you can double click the now .cmd satisfactory server start script

it will open a console windows

keep it on the screen

[icy oar]

OO

its doin stuff

[deep turret]

it will show how the server is launching

[icy oar]

Ya

it stopped

at LogEOSSDK: ScheduleNextSDKConfigDataUpdate

and then a bunch of time

[deep turret]

you can put a picture of the window here if you believe nothing personal shows inside it

because there are many lines, and only the last will not give much information

[icy oar]

it kinda looks like its up now

[deep turret]

looks ok

so now you can keep checking the task manager

[icy oar]

sooo how do i connect

[deep turret]

what does it show ?

[icy oar]

Y its at 3.2gb

out of 5.9

[deep turret]

you should have the satisfactory server line

check that

on the process tab

[icy oar]

satisfactory server line?

gimme a sec

[deep turret]

you can sort by ram usage

[icy oar]

i have "unrealserver"

with the satisfactory logo

[deep turret]

yep that is satisfactory server

[icy oar]

awesum

its at 218mb usage

[deep turret]

did you sort by memory ? so it will stay on top

[icy oar]

Ya

[deep turret]

and will be easy to monitor

[icy oar]

i did

:D

[deep turret]

you can close any other windows that is not the server nor task manager

[icy oar]

awesome

[deep turret]

so no other stuff use the ram

[icy oar]

did

:)

[deep turret]

ok now you can go on the game machine

[icy oar]

Yep

[deep turret]

and go to server manager

[icy oar]

mhm

do i use the ip for the other pc?

to connect?

[deep turret]

yep the one you put in -multihome setting

[icy oar]

ooOOOHHH

that makes so much sense

omg

ok ok ok

[bleak dune]

Guys I'm looking for a server to join and play when I want to. EA servers with no more then 3 mods. That I can play any time. Anyone have any ideas where to post this at.

[icy oar]

its working

[glad nest]

servers can't have mods pal
beside that i guess #looking-for-group-old is the best place to look

[deep turret]

the task manager should react

[icy oar]

oh my god

im actually in

IM IN

WOOOOOOOOO

[bleak dune]

They can't. I know and saw ads for servers with mods playing so I have no idea

[icy oar]

its at barely 850mb

[deep turret]

did you launch a game yet ?

[icy oar]

I did!!!!

im in!!!

[deep turret]

for convenience remember your password

[icy oar]

Ya

quic question

if i make a new pc and stuff, and set up the server, is it gonna be a whole new server or can i like, transfer the save

[deep turret]

the save files are standalone, you can even transfer server configuration standalone, or even blueprints standalone

[icy oar]

ooooo

so if i get one of my friends to send a world hes been working on, i can just, load it up on the server?

[deep turret]

it's in #dedicated-servers message
for that you can even use the new "upload save" feature directly from your game in the server manager

[icy oar]

wait whaaattt

[deep turret]

keep in mind that as soon as your save will grow, your RAM usage will blow up

[icy oar]

aight aight

[deep turret]

so if you take a way bigger save, it may crash before successfully loading it

[glad nest]

im just impressed just the basics loaded but i guess something has happened with ram on U8

[deep turret]

it has, but dont get fooled, it does grow a lot when save grows

[icy oar]

its not even at a gig

another question,

[deep turret]

the biggest saves outthere blow up dedicated servers at over 24GB usage specifically for the dedicated server

[icy oar]

is it possible to do all of this, on non-experimental satisfactory?

[deep turret]

you can't transfer from experimental to non-experimental, until non-experimental will have catch up the experimental branch
but all the computer and launch settings are the same

so you will only have to install the non-experimental one, and change the starting .cmd path keeping the settings, so you can run non-experimental : though makes absolutly sure the server is not already running when doing this

[icy oar]

ofc

[icy oar]

AWESOMEEE

thank u thank u thank u

[deep turret]

if you want friends to join, and it workin always

you will now have to dig in your router settings

[icy oar]

owo

oh nooo

ok ok, can i do this tmr? its getting late rn

btw the server closed, cus no one was in it, is it possible to keep it open at all times?

sorry for all the questions

[deep turret]

todo list :

• use cable
• set static ip in router setting (for the machine trhough cable)
• add more ram
• set router's forwarding rules
• update the .cmd with the new static ip set in the router settings
• restart the machine
  (optionally - restart your router)
• get your public ipv4 address
• share that public ipv4 address to your friends
  (optionally - set user password in the server manager, so anyone that got your address can not connect to the game)

[deep turret]

the server does not close when no one is in

it should stay open, and wait for when you re-connect

[icy oar]

it did for me

[deep turret]

in task manager ?

[icy oar]

in the console

it was like "no players in server, closing"

stuff like that

[deep turret]

as long as the console is still there and task manager show the server fine
then it is only waiting for new connections

[icy oar]

ah

[deep turret]

what closed is your game connection

[icy oar]

i see

[deep turret]

conclusion

[icy oar]

look at the last line

[deep turret]

after that you will probably start to fiddle with the real server settings files

[icy oar]

ah

so like, adding the option for more than 4 players and stuff?

[deep turret]

yep

[merry quail]

does anyone know if there is a way to remotely query server status, with something like the Valve protocol? i.e. clients and libraries like gamedig or a2s, neither of which seem to work.

[desert walrus]

You can just do that through the game client

[merry quail]

I'm looking to do this in code, not in the game client

[icy oar]

would you be able to help me later in configuring those settings for adding more players and stuff?

[last siren]

As far as I know, there are no legal ways to do this.
Basically, you can create connection to request status from server, but I wasn't able to find any documentation about this. And without documentation, the response will be only some set of bytes 🙂
It would be great if there was some kind of minimal requirements described to get same status as "in-game", so server owner can monitor some statistics or simply show the status in some 3rd party app.
Also, I heard about 3rd-party solutions like modes(?)
If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know.

[deep turret]

it still is experimental

[deep turret]

I could, but I may be busy with something else, the wiki contains all that stuff

[icy oar]

ah, ill try my best to understand it

[plucky pike]

Any info if U8 will make dedicated servers evenly use more than one core? Started server on machine with lot of cores, and having performance issue. (Single core is not power enough on this configuration)

[deep turret]

that is a game engine, a lot of stuff is directly dependent on the other stuff
so it can't really be evenly spreaded
you have to have a main loop

now it probably can spreaded more than it is currently

[desert walrus]

And it does use more than one thread already

There is just a limit to how much parallelization can be done

[deep turret]

but keep in mind coffee stains studios will not change the engine itself
and will not completely focus on computing optimizations anyway

[plucky pike]

Im just curious about new U8. My current setup for custom Dedicated server is lagging a bit coz of low one core performance processor

[deep turret]

the only major thing they can do is probably optimizing the graph computations so indirect dependencies can start to compute earlier and so be offloaded a bit more
but it's probably what they are trying to do already

[desert walrus]

The only real solution to that is better hardware

[deep turret]

the only user solution* is better hardware

[desert walrus]

Yes

[icy oar]

i need a bit of help..

i cant seem to convert it over to early access

instead of experimental

this is the last few lines

but theres more i just cant get a picture of it because it shuts the cmd down so fast

[desert walrus]

What are you doing to try to switch branches?

Ex is -beta experimental, -beta public for ea

[icy oar]

im just removing the experimental from the satisfactoryDSexperimental .cmd thingy

i tried putting -NOSTEAM after all of the commands but its the same story

I hope it’s readable

[desert walrus]

I'm at the gym atm, I'll get back to you in half an hour or so

[icy oar]

oki dokies, thank u

[desert walrus]

Np

[glad nest]

I am pretty sure you would need to install it, changing anything in your launch file wont really change the version

[icy oar]

I did install it

[desert walrus]

Oh wait, you installed from epic right

[glad nest]

did you change the path also then?

[icy oar]

ya

[icy oar]

its installed the same place, i just removed the "experimental" since the rest of the name is identical

[icy oar]

hey are u back from the gym yet?

[desert walrus]

Yep

[icy oar]

yay!

[desert walrus]

I've lost track...
Can you give me a recap of what you've done and what your current issue is?

[icy oar]

ok so, i cant get the satisfactory server to work on normal early access, im using epic games, and the dedicated server is already installed

im gonna install discord on the other mini pc to get this a bit easier

[desert walrus]

Okay
You downloaded as the early access branch in egs?

[icy oar]

egs?

[desert walrus]

Epic games store

[icy oar]

ah. yeah

its installed

[desert walrus]

Okay
What part can't you figure out?

[icy oar]

this bit

i cant get it to run

i managed to snag a screenshot of it

[desert walrus]

Firstly, why not leave the ports at default?

@icy oar

[icy oar]

idk, @deep turret said to make the ports like that

[deep turret]

that is the default ports

[deep turret]

did you add more ram

[desert walrus]

I was thinking query port was not at default...

Guess I misremembered

Anyhow, ram is a likely culprit here

Esp on u7

[deep turret]

it is dw we already checked with experimental dedicated server
and if we done that with experimental it's because the ram use was low enough to run it

[desert walrus]

K, missed that

[icy oar]

ah

[icy oar]

not yet

[deep turret]

#dedicated-servers message

[icy oar]

ah

[deep turret]

the you can't run it

as I said

[deep turret]

np

[desert walrus]

I'm working on updating the wiki page for dedis to be a lot more beginner freindly and just better overall

You have anything in particular you'd like to see changed?

[deep turret]

the setup of cmd script to start the server on windows

[icy oar]

alright ill look into getting the ram soon, just gotta contact my ex.. who has my old motherboard, with the ddr3 ram

[deep turret]

because without it it needs fast reactive console/terminal user experience
and with it, it's completely out of the wiki doc adventure

[desert walrus]

Sounds good

[deep turret]

as well as better indication that the "manual/script" way applies to epic games stores installed server

you can use the step by step of me and catto as model
as catto was not very at ease with these things
all the intermediate steps are here

starts here @desert walrus #dedicated-servers message

would probably be good to line up example arguments with the default values
maybe give multiple examples for the sake of intuitive flexibility / completeness

[deep turret]

maybe it would be better to split the overall setting / capabilities page
with the starter pack / first installation guide page
so all the step by step process does not clutter for those that just want to get informed on settings, environment and capabilities

making the main page a kind of table of content for sub pages too (as it already kind of being)

oh and make sure the sub pages are referenced in the main page
because currently some sub page can only be joined by search

[desert walrus]

Okay

Will do

[deep turret]

nice

[deep turret]

oh and a future idea could be to split starter page for windows and starter page for Linux

• because it will be less interleaved then
• because Linux page ultimately may contain a lot more detailed explanation and content

[desert walrus]

Sounds good, I have a good starting place now

[deep turret]

maybe a third "using docker image" installation guide page, coud be made
(that could contain both linux and windows process, as the requirements would be smaller before digging into the docker part)
but that is optional :
1] the docker image installation is dependent on docker and on a third party image (less reliable)
2] the docker image itself use the first two [windows/linux] installation guide pages, so this third one is effectively less focused on the dedicated server installation in the end

that docker guide could be double edged

it's always good for people to really understand how it works to go through the actual steps of setting the server up (so, not docker)

[icy oar]

ok so, i figured i could just move the save file over to update 8, and get the server working again,

but my friend cant join, could you help me with that?

[dense osprey]

can somone help me? i forgot my password and i want to know if can reset it

[fathom wren]

hi...
Can someone explain me that ?
I'm just trying to connect to my dedicated server hosted on my local network

the server is detected in game

it's in french btw

bro wtf

[cobalt plover]

Is there a version of the dedicated server for linux and that supports epic games

[glad nest]

bro now you're going way beyond satisfactory server support
You should know your own router we should not have to help you with that

tldr: portforward port 15000, 15777, 7777 (all UDP) which is the default ports iirc

[glad nest]

Are not the steamcmd version one working for epic games players?

i am pretty sure i had egs players on mine

[cobalt plover]

Unsure, as it throws a timeout error - hosted on my server - Pterodactyl via docker - No port forwarding just local

[glad nest]

does he have mods installed?
is he on the same version?

[cobalt plover]

Its me, can't join my own server 😄 - No mods, same version, im on epic games

[fathom wren]

i have the exact same error

[glad nest]

have you set -multihome in the startup params?

is there anything in the server logs as well

[cobalt plover]

I tried that:
Setting to 0.0.0.0 Timeout
Setting to 127.0.0.1 Timeout
Setting to MACHINE IP Server crash

[cobalt plover]

I can send them in a minute 🙂

[glad nest]

also send me startup parameter used

[cobalt plover]

Thanks for attempting to help btw

Might be a minute, recreated server as it happens on a blank slate too

[dense osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-hi-hello-hi-there-gif-25347432

[cobalt plover]

Raw startup: ./Engine/Binaries/Linux/*-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame ?listen -Port={{SERVER_PORT}} -ServerQueryPort={{QUERY_PORT}} -BeaconPort={{BEACON_PORT}} -multihome=0.0.0.0 $(if {{DISABLE_SEASONAL}}; then echo "-DisableSeasonalEvents"; fi)

Parsed startup: ?listen -Port=15777 -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -multihome=0.0.0.0

Logs:

[loud minnow]

The server is up and running, according to the log, and I can see that you are trying to connect to it, but something else is blocking your connection, such as your router, ISP, or something in between.

so you have more of a networking issue from what i can see

[icy oar]

:( i have no idea what Settings i should use though

[cobalt plover]

Hmm there shouldn't be but ill check - currently server firewall inactive, it shouldn't interfere with DNS so not much ideas. Thanks though

[desert walrus]

Send a picture of the screen(or just look it up for your router, that's easier for everyone)

[cobalt plover]

Further to add to it, could it be NAT type? Currently in game it is Moderate

[loud minnow]

if you have properly set up port you dont have to worry about the NAT and dont worry about that on the log it dont mean anything is something with EOS which you can ignore

[glad nest]

-port 15777 is this not better to have separate from queryport

[cobalt plover]

Ports all fine seems to be pinging in game, and via Server Manager

[glad nest]

well if you can't connect the gameport may be the culprit

i would try to change it

[solar reef]

may i play with friend on dedicated server togeder we have same version of game but i have on steam and he pirated game ?

[desert walrus]

It's unlikely that anyone will help you with playing on a cracked version

And it's unlikely to work in this case anyways, as cracked versions are usually a ways behind the official release

[loud minnow]

DOES anyone read the wiki lol... it should be ./FactoryServer.sh multihome=<ip address> -ServerQueryPort=<15777> -BeaconPort=<15001> -Port=<7777> -log Is that simple.. The Beacon port doesn't matter what you put it will automatically choose an unused one. THE ONLY one that matters is your -ServerQueryPort, and your -Port

[loud minnow]

so to answer your question yeah your are correct they seem incorrect to me also

[icy oar]

yes, yes we do, but its so complicated

[desert walrus]

I'm working on trying to make that better

[icy oar]

it sounds simple to you, but for us newbies whove never dealt with these kinds of commands before, or any kind of networking, its a nightmare trying to wrap our heads around it

[cobalt plover]

Thanks, i'll give that a try - Didn't notice 🥲

[icy oar]

thats awesome

[desert walrus]

A while back our main expert for dedis left us 😦

[icy oar]

ooohh

sadge

[desert walrus]

He had many usefull tools and a lot of knowledge

And also way more time than I do

[icy oar]

yeah, alright

[muted hill]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[desert walrus]

Epic embed fail

[loud minnow]

Yeah, it's called doing research and looking at videos and Googling things. Man, now you can even use ChatGPT, but people just like coming to Discord channels and want everything given to them or shown how to do, without putting in the effort to learn themselves.

[cobalt plover]

But being honest, wiki was quite confusing to me - Coming from someone who has a whole home lab

[desert walrus]

ooh, tell me about your homelab

[muted hill]

I didn't follow the wiki at all, just did this video step by step. There's a wiki? 😝
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA1HVFJDWGw

[desert walrus]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg

[cobalt plover]

|| Storage: TrueNas, Content: Ubuntu - ZFS - Plex, Portainer, Pterodactyl etc||

[loud minnow]

why do you censor it?

and here my ip 75.85.199.1 too lol

dont have a server running for satisfactory but i do have a docker ready to go

for anyone interested

lol

[cobalt plover]

Keeping content related to channel:

[loud minnow]

no reason to hide thing lol i just find it funny when people hide things when there is no reason is not we cant do anything with the info and who really has the time lol

no much of a "Home Lab" but she got it where it counts lol all left over parts from upgrading my main rig lol

Main main rig 5950X and 128Gb 3600cl16 ram kit and 3090 which soon well in two years or so it will become part of the home lab to run LLMs lol

[cobalt plover]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsGmkJ

With P400 and 2 500hdds on top

Replacing: hp dl165 g7

[loud minnow]

anyways i think your ports are wrong lol thats the issue the server is up and running dont mean the networking is good tho pain in the but to spot those in the logs

[cobalt plover]

Not the type of guy to bug people, having those paramets set TIMED OUT at the Server Manager, even without ports specified - Server is able to ping, pc is able to ping:

[2023.10.09-19.10.52:417][493]LogServer: Opening a new route from '[::ffff:192.168.0.185]:51436' to '[::1]:15000'```

[loud minnow]

you also have to take into account that your using pedodactly which im not a fan of ill just use docker so much simmpler you just dont get a pretty gui lol

the reason is that uses a script to launch it so that could be an issue as things change over time

[cobalt plover]

Funny thing is, i even tried to manually setup using steamcmd, same output - ignored docker as thats what pterodactyl uses - achieving the same issue (what my guess was)

[loud minnow]

and if nobody updates the "egg" then it wont work

github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server

ive use that and works wonderfully and the guy keep it up to date he check here once in a while

[cobalt plover]

Sure, ill give it a shot - thanks

[loud minnow]

but like i said if is a networking issue then is a whole lot funner to solve lol

[cobalt plover]

I know 🥲

[loud minnow]

Lol, anyways, I'm out. Just know that it's not the launcher's fault; it's always the user. Lol. But I know you'll figure it out, and when you do, you'll have gained new experience in fixing your network. lol

https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server

lol you can put link i guess like this to over come the bot lol

[dense osprey]

wanna see mine?

[drowsy wasp]

why dont hypertubes work in experimental?
i crash most of the time like halfway into the tube

all players on my server (4) experience some are on epic and some on steam

[cobalt plover]

HONESTLY, I dont whats so special about this docker container but it works

[loud minnow]

Why it works because it just keep it simple no fancy gui but it works lol and the docker container is made pretty well

[loud minnow]

Sure but mine is nothing new thing is old now build back when 3090 got released in 2025 it will be replaced and join my “home lab” yard lol

[loud minnow]

Blame the devs on that one… the used to work good but as the develop they game more DS just become more unstable why because dev priority is single player then eventually one day we will get to DS

[cobalt plover]

Wait so servers are pointless for singleplayer performance now or?

[loud minnow]

Only if you have a crappy system or playing like on a very old cpu lol having a DS won’t get you any performance boost

If you have a modern cpu like a 5600x running a DS won’t get you any performance improvements .. but if you run an old first gen i7 or so then than yeah I could help out but at that point you have other problems to worry about lol

The game is way more stable just playing single player

Why because that what the dev care about first

[drowsy wasp]

They should atleast remove large buggs from ds

[cobalt plover]

Fairs, better off with my Ryzen 9 5900x

[drowsy wasp]

No hypertubes means no transportation so the game basicly becomes unplayable

Is what me and my friends just discovered:(

I dont get how the devs think people only play solo alot of people play games with friends way more than solo

[loud minnow]

Like in the dev own word in all their video “but that’s not our vision for satisfactory” lol

[dense osprey]

cabel management is not the best 😅

[loud minnow]

Can’t really appreciate it with the light off lol

See you can really tell the work done if I take a pic like this compare to my other pic where you can see the work lol

Little dusty on this one lol

[charred hound]

Hello! My question is how my friends and I made a dedicated Experimental server on 1 Server. But we can't find the Special settings, where can this be activated or where is it? The map was created on the server, not in the Sima game

[deep turret]

your friend can only join experimental server if they run experimental version of the game

[icy oar]

he was

[deep turret]

oh so you didn't do the next step of setting up your router ?

[icy oar]

what would the next step be..? was it setting the ip to be static?

[deep turret]

#dedicated-servers message

[icy oar]

forwarding rules?

i did a thing in the powershell

[deep turret]

and static ip yep and also you probably want wired connection

what thing, you had already do the thing in powershell

[icy oar]

made a rule i think? for how satisfactory ports should do and stuff

[deep turret]

forwarding is not in the computer

we already done your server computer part

[icy oar]

ooh

okay alright

[deep turret]

all you must do is setting up the hardware and the router

[deep turret]

^

can you do the wiring part ?

[desert walrus]

@icy oar we already talked about this#dedicated-servers message

[icy oar]

cant do the ethernet thingy, router too far away, only have cable for my main pc

[deep turret]

oh

[icy oar]

i will soon be getting a network switch soon though, for a lan party im having

[sturdy gust]

You don't need it to be wired, it'd just be better 🙂

[deep turret]

^

[icy oar]

oh oki!

[deep turret]

it's just you said you would do it so I asked if you could do it now

but you can do without

[icy oar]

oh right, i forgot

router too far away..

sowwi

[deep turret]

np

you must connect on your router management web/app page

[icy oar]

its just the ip of the router, right?

[desert walrus]

Yep

[sturdy gust]

I haven't been following the whole conversation, but assuming that your networking checks out on your host (and that Windows Firewall isn't blocking the connection), you just need to port forward in your router. So login to your router's admin interface, and add 3 rules (one for each of the ports that the server binds to)

[desert walrus]

Which if you haven't touched config is likely 192.168.1.1

[deep turret]

wait, welcome here

[desert walrus]

Or sometimes 0.1

[icy oar]

i uhh

forgot the password

to the site

[desert walrus]

It's almost always just password

If not that there's likely a sticker on your router

[icy oar]

ive previously logged into the router, and it asked me immedietly to change the password..

[deep turret]

It just stroke my mind the most used docker image's publisher just there

so : welcome

[icy oar]

so i did, and now i unfortunately cant remember the pass

[sturdy gust]

Hah, yeah I check in from time to time 🙂

[icy oar]

is there any way to reset the routers pass

[sturdy gust]

@icy oar most routers have a physical reset button on them

It'll completely reset the router, including the admin password

[desert walrus]

Just be warned, depending on your isp that can cause issues

[sturdy gust]

True

[icy oar]

oh

[sturdy gust]

It's usually fine, but not always

[desert walrus]

My isp specifically lol

[deep turret]

and also you will loose any wifi/password configuration

(other than default)

[icy oar]

just a random, unrelated question, if i were to have a problem with switching routers, and the new routers just refused to connect to the modem, would any of you have any tips for that?

[sturdy gust]

Could be lock-in

This probably isn't the place for that conversation, though 🙂

[desert walrus]

Or your isp requires a static gateway ip and you didn't configure it properly on new router

[deep turret]

Router != switch
switch devices works differently

[icy oar]

ik, my mom bought a asus router to replace the zyxel router we have

[sturdy gust]

Most likely an incorrect upstream configuration with the new router

Depending on how the modem is configured

[icy oar]

its a used router, but its been reset several times

[sturdy gust]

That doesn't matter 🙂

[desert walrus]

If you don't know what settings do exactly, just go through and configure new router the same as the old router

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, check your current connection info for the router that works through a client and/or login to the admin interface (oh) and look at the config there

[icy oar]

well, i couldnt do that because its a "smart" router, so i had to do it from the app it has and it just wouldnt recognize that theres a ethernet cable stuck in the wan port

[deep turret]

catto are you on the Asus or on the zyxel currently ?

[icy oar]

zyxel

still havent gotten on the asus

cus,

[desert walrus]

It's not that it didn't recognize the enet cable, it's that the connection wasn't established by the modem

[icy oar]

issues

[deep turret]

ok

[desert walrus]

Or the used router is just broken

[icy oar]

seller has proof its worked for them

[desert walrus]

In that case, improper configuration

[icy oar]

how fix

[sturdy gust]

Bruh

[icy oar]

sorry,

thats for another time

[desert walrus]

Go through and set all of the settings to be the same

[loud minnow]

Lol I know

[deep turret]

I mean if it is correctly using dhcp and any computer works out of the box
it's either a miss config or a problem with the new router

[desert walrus]

Yeah, that's what I mean
My isp locked to a specific mac address

[icy oar]

but like, i cant set it up at all, it wont let me

[desert walrus]

Why not?

But really, one issue at a time

[deep turret]

anyway you need zyxel access to setup forwarding

[icy oar]

because its a "smart" router and its stupid setup wizard breaks the stupid app when it doesnt recognize a wan cable

[loud minnow]

I’m just here reading and eating popcorn 🍿

[icy oar]

sorry

[sturdy gust]

@icy oar the issue with the new router is that you probably haven't configured it correctly to work with the modem in the way that the modem expects it to.

If the ASUS router doesn't provide any means of advanced config (very unlikely), then you're out of luck. Despite it supporting an app, there's almost definitely an admin interface too. Connect any device to it (even with the broken internet connection), and navigate to the gateway address

[icy oar]

im sorry for wasting yalls time

[sturdy gust]

It's fine, it's just frustrating that you're skimming over us telling you how to solve the issue, and then ask how to solve it haha 😄

[icy oar]

:(

[loud minnow]

I mean they are answering your question so they want to help I’m just the guy watching from afar

[deep turret]

not sure if we properly answered that so I do: yes it is Linux available
and server is completely platform agnostic

[deep turret]

I don't know if you made it clear for yourself yet but you either have :

• the current password
• to grasp how to retrieve the password / reset the password
• reset the whole machine and let it reconfigure according your zyxel documentation and ids

Also that is why lot of people write it on a piece of paper that is strategically hidden and cryptic
because for people that almost never do networking : you are going to forget it

[rustic badger]

did someone have pterodactyle docker for satisfactory experimental update 8 ? I'm having issue with experimental version only

[sturdy gust]

Which Pterodactyl egg are you currently using?

[bleak dune]

I just setup my own server. It worked before. I'm using steamcmd and the EA version of the game. No problems detected and install was ok, It's just when I try and connect to the server. The host disconnects. This is when I try and make a new game. Your connection to the host has been lost. Anyone have any ideas.

[loud minnow]

Whenever you start a game, it only starts the instance. It is not until you try to connect to the server that the server will start to load assets to the RAM. If you do not have enough RAM to load up the map, the server will crash and you will be disconnected. This all depends on the update you are running. For update 7, you need at least 12GB of RAM on the machine to be able to start up the map. For update 8, the requirements are less; if you have 8GB of RAM, it should be fine. I think your server is crashing when it is trying to load assets to the RAM or is not fast enough to do it within the set time limit.

And if it worked before, it doesn't mean it will work now, especially with this developer, as DS has been getting worse and requires a pretty fast machine to not get rubberbanding or lag when saving the world.

[bleak dune]

@loud minnow thanks. I have 16GB ram and 4GB of video ram. So I know I have more then what I need,

[loud minnow]

video RAM is not needed for servers.. and you are not playing the game on the same machine, correct.. but if that is not the issue then it could be many other things. You can post the complete logs to see what it is, but other networking issues, idk"

[bleak dune]

Yes, Playing game and running server on same PC, Like I said it worked before. I just don't have any idea

[loud minnow]

there your problem... 16GB is not enought to run the server and the game

and because it worked before it dont mean it will still work as the game is still in developments

[bleak dune]

Ah Crap, ok Thanks. I wish I could find a server to play on

[loud minnow]

you have to take into account for OS using RAM also lol... 16GB think about it OS need at least 4GB then the game client need around 8GB and the server need another 10GB depending on the update or more depending on the save size etc do the math... you need at least 32Gb of ram on the machine to run Update 8

and even then youy will be at the edge of ram usage now you want to browse the internet see where the issue is..

[bleak dune]

ok, thank you

[loud minnow]

and let say you ran out of RAM now windows is going to try to use page file which is you SSD/HDD as RAM and when that happens everything slows down to a crawl

[bleak dune]

ok

[loud minnow]

so like i said just because it worked before it dont meant is still going to work just as an fyi 🙂

[bleak dune]

ok

[loud minnow]

just play single player the game is unstable in DS anyways and no having a DS wont get you better performance unless you have a potato of a pc lol

[thorny shore]

Where is the world located for the dedicated server (and the configuration file)?

[thorny shore]

Never mind, figured it out. 👍🏽

[muted hill]

Would it be more beneficial to run the game as a multiplayer hosted from one PC that people can connect to, rather than dedi?

I'm looking for that always running server, open 24/7, but so far seems unstable with dedi when it comes to yuge ass satisfactories.

[thorny shore]

Is anyone else having issues with cutting down trees on a dedicated server?

seems it's a known bug. ugh

[deep turret]

for update 8 the dedicated server and multiplayer code is rather similar

so use dedicated server for 24/7 running on other system
use multiplayer when you only run hosting when you launch the game

also if you want to run a 24/7 independent game, you need another account and paid version of the game

the dedicated server does not require that

[deep turret]

there are lot of known bugs currently, almost everyone experimenting is waiting on the 8.2 update

#satisfactory-memes message

[muted hill]

Didn't think about the money issue. 😘

[muted hill]

Ah, should I be running experimental on my dedi? Or wait until 8 out of experimental?

The itch is real. I need to build. 🤣🤣🤣

[deep turret]

we are waiting on update 8.2
then we will see, I would say if you run comfortable in update 7 dedicated server, wait at least 8.2 before switching over to experimental
currently even if update 8 already show somewhat better performance, the physics are still less stable than update 7 and the server overall is not more stable than the update 7 one yet

[thorny shore]

Well so far this tree/leaves thing is the only thing I'm aware of, however it seems to have been a thing since U6.

[muted hill]

Just got it up yesterday. 😂 No idea if its stable. 😜

[merry quail]

thanks, at least this confirms what I've found. I run a startup that spins up game servers on demand with per-minute billing, and it seems the majority of the games with dedicated servers support Valve's query protocol which has great client libraries. for the moment though, we have no way of indicating game server status through our UI, which is unfortunate.

[last siren]

You can run server through some "wrapper" application and see at least if it is alive 🙂

just simple console application with short API

[merry quail]

definitely, there are other way of going about this. we just haven't written them yet 🙂

[thorny shore]

I found NSSM referenced in the Fandom Wiki and it works like a charm to setup SF as a service on Windows.

You can even poll it's status through the cmd line.

[last siren]

missed that part 🙂

[thorny shore]

I would've too had I not been specifically searching on how to do that. What's nice is I can do this with other things I want to run as a service.

[icy oar]

hey, could someone help me with setting the forwarding rules for my router?

[desert walrus]

Back to this again?

[icy oar]

i got into teh router

now i need to setup the forwarding ports

so my friends can connect

i did this, but im guessing thats not enough

is this it?

[icy oar]

im sorry for pinging, i just suddenly have time, and a willing friend to participate in testing

[glad nest]

💀

bro have you even tried yourself to google how to portforward for your router

this is the simplest router ever i know it since my isp tried to force this upon me

its even a sole page called "port forwarding"

[icy oar]

ive never done this before

please be patient with me

[glad nest]

i never tried it before i just did it myself as well

now its to the point where its just stupid

[icy oar]

theres no option specifically called "port forwarding"

[glad nest]

it is

[icy oar]

ill show you, gimme a sec

[glad nest]

i can show you

right now

[icy oar]

whats that under though

[glad nest]

💀

[icy oar]

its a sub setting, but what setting is it under

[glad nest]

try yourself

[glad nest]

better you get to know your router than to explained every step of the way

[icy oar]

none of these say "port forwarding"

[glad nest]

oh no, do you have to try it yourself

[icy oar]

ffs please just show me what setting its under

[glad nest]

its a sole page under one of those, thats all im going to tell you

[icy oar]

yes, but which one

you cant expect me to go through every single one

[glad nest]

hell i can

until now i just believed you were trolling but man wtf

[icy oar]

fuck you

i found it

it was under nat

[glad nest]

in my head you should never ask people for help unless you have tried yourself

you have continously been nagging for help without trying this entire time

[icy oar]

well my head doesnt fkn work the same

so you cant apply a single policy for everyone else

my brain damage and ADHD makes it so fkn hard already to learn how to integrate into society, i dont need you to tell me how to think

so you're wasting mine instead?

[glad nest]

its not me needing help

[icy oar]

i know, and im trying my hardest to ask for help

but you're not being helpful

[glad nest]

I have helped you since the very start wtf are you on about

[icy oar]

you literally havent

[glad nest]

I even gave you a finished server ready to go

told you you could use it free of charge

as much as you'd like

[icy oar]

sharklienX helped me

[icy oar]

i wanted my own i could manage and control

[glad nest]

you will literally have full access to the admin board either way

[icy oar]

doesnt matter, do you wanna help me set up those (3??) port forwarding rules or not?

[glad nest]

do you want to try yourself before asking lol

[icy oar]

i literally dont know how

[glad nest]

i even sent you a complete picture of my setup on the same exact router

[icy oar]

yes because this is SOOOOO helpful

[glad nest]

here you go

[icy oar]

thank you

do i click "configure originating ip"

[icy oar]

^^

[glad nest]

does it sound right to you?

[icy oar]

i have no idea

[glad nest]

do you want to limit the portforwarding to only be enabled from one specific outside IP?

[icy oar]

thats what it does?

[glad nest]

yes

[icy oar]

so i dont click it

[glad nest]

correct

[icy oar]

ok thank you

ok so, now it should all be ok, right?

now my friend can join the satisfactory server?

[glad nest]

if you've done it correct

send me a ss and ill take a look

[icy oar]

it looks correct

2 sek

[glad nest]

looks good

[icy oar]

fuck yeah

thank you

[glad nest]

yw

[icy oar]

would you mind helping with this

[glad nest]

i can only guess its the version mismatch

if you are struggling locally again

[desert walrus]

I'm driving rn, sorry
I'll be back home in about four hours

[icy oar]

no, this is my friend trying to connect

im already in the server

hes using update 8

[glad nest]

are u using update 8 as well?

[icy oar]

ofc, the server only works on update 8

for me

[glad nest]

I think someone with more patience should take this

[icy oar]

...

fine ig

[glad nest]

unless this gives you a clue im out: Check your server logs for pings

[icy oar]

server logs?

[glad nest]

yep im out

[icy oar]

like the console?

[glad nest]

wait for fight or flight i think

[icy oar]

bruv i cant wait 4 hours

ill be asleep by then

[icy oar]

or is it the log file in the server files

[loud minnow]

That not a reason or an excuse to try not to put in the effort seems you like everything done or shown to you.. yeah you might learn differently then other that’s fine but you treat yourself like your stupid incapable of doing things… instead of trying to learn it or trying to over come your difficulties you just go the easy route it don’t matter if you have ADHD or not at some point people are just going to hate you or get mad at you.. so my advice learn to use google and YouTube because I know that you know how to use those..

[icy oar]

that is the most ableist, rudest comment ive ever gotten about my brain damage

thanks much

[loud minnow]

Because is the truth and it hurts sometimes I know anyways that’s my opinion take it as an life advice

[icy oar]

what fkn truth? you just insulted me

im not "blaming" my adhd

ffs you're saying it like having severe adhd isnt some kind of disability

[loud minnow]

Is not

[icy oar]

thats essentially called executive dysfunction

[loud minnow]

You make it to be

It dot meant you cant try it over come them and learn

[icy oar]

just because i learn differently doesnt mean you can just dismiss my questions and plead for help

this is my literal first time ive ever done something like this, i have ZERO knowledge on this subject,

you're acting like i have the same level of knowledge as you

[loud minnow]

Is not dismissing you questing I’m ignoring it why because if I give you the answer you will never learn… have you hear if you give a man a fish he can feed himself for a day but if you teach him how to fish he can feed himself for the rest of his life

[icy oar]

like things are OBVIOUS for you, its not for me

[icy oar]

"teaching is showing"

[green spruce]

all off your servers

[icy oar]

and you havent showed me shit

[icy oar]

????

[green spruce]

i try to log in

[loud minnow]

Your are wrong and many people on here have

[glad nest]

fight will help you when he have time

[icy oar]

on my server?

[green spruce]

yes to see your problem

[icy oar]

so if teaching isnt showing, how do you teach?

like some old guy teaches you how to swim by throwing you in the deep end and letting you figure shit out while i drown in numbers?

[loud minnow]

I don’t why because many people on here have shown you how to do it like @green spruce is trying to do

[icy oar]

thanks, but i dont even know what im doing wrong

[glad nest]

Check your server logs if you see any indication whats wrong

[green spruce]

ports i think

[glad nest]

I am not going to lead you any more

You may very well put them up here also maybe someone can take a look with you

[icy oar]

thanks for the little help you gave me