No @blazing halo I've been running experimental ever since U6 came out, never ran EA.
#dedicated-servers
blazing halo
Well, I suppose it doesn't matter - U6 has moved out of EX and is now EA. Whichever branch you're using right now, they're identical. Or, were, last time I checked.
vale parrot
Well that's easy to check, if people running EA are getting the same update where the server uses less memory
blazing halo
That's what happened when EX moved to EA, yes.
But like I said - it'll climb up soon enough.
It's pretty clear tho'. An empty U6/EX server (freshly made save) used something like 9.5 GiB or so; U6/EA uses 8 GiB exactly as far as I can tell.
vale parrot
My U6 experimental always showed 11.4 GB memory use after some hours, it was literally on that before I updated a few hours ago. After the update it doesn't go above 9.2GB so far. Everythings the same except the update.
I'll keep an eye on it. I've never ever been below 10.05GB or something memory ever on Experimental since U6.
blazing halo
Well, this is the current state for me - phase 4 biofuel run (so, very limited construction, but quite a bit of exploration). 10.4 GiB.
blazing halo
Mine is something like 1.4, but that's not a great indicator.
I think it grows with area explored more than structures built.
Well, explored area where you've done something that it needs to make a note of.
vale parrot
Yeah, you running EA or EX?
blazing halo
EA.
We did do comparisons back on the 2nd U6/EA patch, because I was pretty sure they wouldn't keep updating the EX branch until another beta run.
I was wrong, by the way - it seems that both now carry the exact same package.
bitter valley
Hi, I was able to obtain a log file of when a user ran into the timeout issue. Any insight would be appreciated
static glacier
Hi. I don’t have any issue with my 12 player slot dedicated server that I bought for the next year. The issue is that I asked my friends if they would play on it and they said yea. Then none of them have gotten on since I got it about 1-2 weeks ago. Money isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that I just don’t want to see it go to waste. It’s a central US server. I was hoping my friends would play together and work together, but they joined, did nothing, and haven’t been on since. So, if at all interested, just dm me if anyone wants to play. I don’t have a lot of time because I work A LOT. But I’d also not like to see it go to waste. If you decide you want in, just be like at least half decent at the game and work together and that’s pretty much the only rules. Please dm if you want to play. Thx.
crystal sky
hi
fossil ingot
Sorry for the late response here, I work really long shifts.
Here is a copy of my logs, but I don't see anything in particular that stands out, just a copy of the message that shows in the dialog box.
blazing halo
Sorry for the late response here, I work really long shifts.
Here is a copy of m...
Hey - at least it's reliable, right? :D But anyway - try not to join right away if you just got disconnected, because you have the option to save game on player leave checked (and a disconnect counts as leaving), and the server needs a while to save the game... so if you try to reconnect immediately, you'll get disconnected again, and it will save again.
If you also have the option to pause the game when the sever is empty checked, you may experience disconnects after startup or a period of inactivity.
As for "reliable buffer overflow", there's no real solution. This is an UnrealEngine issue - it's present in DnL, ARK, Conan: Exiles, ATLAS...
It usually means the server is trying to send too much data at one time - typically inventory contents, learned schematics, stuff like that.
blazing halo
Hi, I was able to obtain a log file of when a user ran into the timeout issue. A...
Uhhh... no, you were not able to. This log only documents a startup of the server (which took about 20 seconds), aaaand... that's it. The last line is basically "hey, I'm up now, you can connect to me". ;] There's also no "timed out" or "timeout" mentioned, no "closing" of any kind... For all of the shit that's there, the log file is empty.
Also - you do not need the ?listen parameter. I've seen other hosts re-use it from ARK/Conan/DnL and so on, but it's not required.
bitter valley
Uhhh... no, you were not able to. This log only documents a startup of the serve...
Do you know which logs I should look for? Would they be cilent side or server side?
blazing halo
Server-side. You'll just have to find the right one. :D
I can't help you there, since the only way would be to either a) identify the run by the file's timestamp, or b) open each file and check.
fossil ingot
Hey - at least it's *reliable*, right? :D But anyway - try not to join right awa...
Yeah it is actually a reliable crash lol. Let me try messing with those options, thank you.
My next idea is to load in single player, and see if that works.
bronze reef
My next idea is to load in single player, and see if that works.
Nice dog
blazing halo
My next idea is to load in single player, and see if that works.
It won't come up in single-player at all.
This only happens on the networking side of things in UE. Single-player won't invoke that at all, so...
But, you can load into SP, then re-save as a new save, and load that in the DS - might help. Sometimes loading the save into the SP game allows it to correct issues. Same thing with SCIM. Essentially any tool that takes the save apart and puts it back together according to the correct rules should be able to fix any potential data corruption. Maybe.
(in most cases this is done by pruning, because it's often impossible to tell what the correct data should be... programmers strive for brevity: the save file should contain exactly what is required to recreate the correct state, and no more)
calm jacinth
who do I gotta poke about a DS crash?
appears to coincide with saving -> LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 25.248682, CurrentTimeStamp: 26.265333, Character: Char_Player_C_2145934341 bunch of those and almost exactly a minute later, crashed (dmp is empty)
[2022.10.09-02.15.57:869][ 34]LogNet: Warning: UNetDriver::ProcessRemoteFunction: Remote function Multicast_RepActionState called from actor Char_NonFlyingBird_C_2145572947 while actor is being destroyed. Function will not be processed.
[2022.10.09-02.15.58:847][ 62]LogNet: Warning: UNetDriver::ProcessRemoteFunction: Remote function Multicast_RepActionState called from actor Char_NonFlyingBird_C_2145572935 while actor is being destroyed. Function will not be processed.
[2022.10.09-02.16.18:396][511]LogGame: Warning: Add failed cause InventoryItemClass was null, num 0, component 'Inventory'
[2022.10.09-02.16.25:126][689]LogGame: Warning: Add failed cause InventoryItemClass was null, num 0, component 'Inventory'
[2022.10.09-02.16.44:962][110]LogWindows: Windows GetLastError: The operation completed successfully. (0)```
oblique ice
Did something with inventory while saving?
calm jacinth
easily could have, don't generally notice it is saving
oblique ice
I thought it'd do the popup warning on dedicated.
calm jacinth
picked up pale berry maybe
it did kick me out after 30 seconds of unresponsiveness, then about 30 seconds later, DS noped
oblique ice
Uh, check QA for duplicate reports? I don't know anything about DS crashes though.
Kad@home is usually around though, just wait and he or someone else will help.
calm jacinth
i suspect it's not just a coincidence that this is also the same day i disabled pause when players are connected...resulted in a >100 MB log file
dunno if that is extraordinary or not
oblique ice
100mb sounds excessively large to me, but I don't know how much within normal bounds it is.
calm jacinth
me neither because i don't see it before it usually restarts itself (which seems quite frequent)
blazing halo
```[2022.10.09-02.15.55:443][965]LogGame: Removing Detail Actor from Owner: 0x00...
Can you provide the entire log?
calm jacinth
blazing halo
100mb sounds excessively large to me, but I don't know how much within normal bo...
With long runs or lots of stuff happening, it's not outside expectations. One of mine was 136 MiB.
calm jacinth
a shame it didn't actually write the DMP :C
odds are pretty good that picking a pale berry somehow induced some inventory issue which disconnected me, then crashed the server
blazing halo
The other way around - it crashed the server, which then caused a disconnect (or, well, a timeout).
Two clues in the dumps you've provided: the fact that the crashing thread is the GameThread (so it has to do with game logic), and the error that is reported ("Windows GetLastError: The operation completed successfully. (0)").
calm jacinth
FYI, that crash.zip was sourced from the server...didn't think to grab my local logs
blazing halo
Likely wouldn't have helped.
It crashed in ntdll, so it fell down during a syscall.
calm jacinth
👀 could C: full have induced that?
i don't think it was but it's not exactly outside of the realm of possibilities
blazing halo
Maybe?
calm jacinth
i'll go check...
blazing halo
If your system drive is full, that would cause all kinds of problems, and they'd be all over the place.
Literally all over the place - from failure to delete a file, through access denied on basic directory reads, the inability to open some panels/folders, the works.
calm jacinth
C: is not full, but the RAM is at 96%
blazing halo
But you'd need to have literally 0 bytes free for that to happen... most of the time.
blazing halo
C: is not full, but the RAM is at 96%
That might actually do it.
The most important syscall you'd be looking at when inspecting inventory management would likely be malloc() which allocates memory.
And like I said, "The operation completed successfully. (0)" is a pretty idiotic error code... and yes, it is an error code.
It usually means "the operation itself completed fine; the result was garbage".
It most often happens when you request a resource through an intermediary.
The operation went fine (i.e. no errors) in the intermediary, but the destination returned bullshit, so the result is bullshit.
Though in most cases, the memory manager should issue a termination if the request was spectacularly bad.
Still.
calm jacinth
the DS machine only had 12 GiB of RAM and I'm up to Tier 4...if the crashes get more frequent...
blazing halo
Oh yeah, you're running on Windows.
That's woefully inadequate.
Remember, Windows 7+ will require at least 1.5 GiB for itself, which leaves the game with something like 10.5 GiB of RAM to use realistically.
calm jacinth
Server 2012 R2 no less, with Emby Server on top 😭
blazing halo
Still. 12 GiB is not enough. Before this can be diagnosed (or reported) any further, you really should upgrade the RAM.
Because right now? It looks like RAM might be your issue, and yours is below the (however unofficial they may be) requirements.
calm jacinth
👀 the cheap stuff is $114 for 16 GiB
blazing halo
Linux might behave better under OOM conditions. If you have the option, switch.
calm jacinth
the OS is dead in a year so it's due for total overhaul
blazing halo
In the long run however, 16+ GiB is a must. I had to upgrade to 32 GiB just to run ARK and CONAN, some 2-3 years ago.
calm jacinth
um, what's the maximum DS can use?
blazing halo
Technically, there is no maximum.
blazing halo
Judging by experiences, I would say... no mods? 14-15 GiB.
Timeouts would become an issue before RAM, I think.
How many RAM slots do you have, and what sort?
(and what do you have in it now?)
calm jacinth
4, it has 2x4 and 2x2 now
blazing halo
If you're on a very tight budget, replace 2x2 with 2x4.
If you have leeway, replace all of it with a 2x8, and leave the other 2 slots open for a future 2x8 upgrade.
If it's DDR4, it might make sense to upgrade to a 1x16, but that might be pushing it.
calm jacinth
it's DDR3, hence the hesitation
blazing halo
Ah, yes. 8 GiB modules is the max you'll get, unless your platform supports buffered ECC.
blazing halo
At any rate... now is a good question of how much do you want to upgrade.
Because if you don't see yourself upgrading that hardware to DDR4 within the next 6-12 months,
then it's not really a worry, is it?
calm jacinth
i might be upgrading to a 7950X within a month...or not 🤔
i'll figure it out...eventually ¯_(ツ)_/¯
blazing halo
Then I suppose you'll want to hold off on making the choice now, yeah.
Makes no sense to invest into DDR3 when you might require DDR4 next month.
calm jacinth
DDR5, actually 🤣
blazing halo
Ah, yes, the latest Ryzen.
Dumb question, but do you really need the 7950X?
Perhaps a 5900X would do you just fine? And if a 5900X can satisfy you, perhaps a 3900X could as well? The advantages a 5900X has over a 3900X aren't that big, really - it's a "nice to have", but not a mandatory switch by any stretch of the imagination. 3900X is plenty fast and plenty flexible.
calm jacinth
the problem is DDR3 appears to have chronically low inventory except for ECC
sellers are either back ordered or only have 1 available
it's going to be potentially CPU transcoding so yeah, need all the grunt i can muster
calm jacinth
potentially both
blazing halo
Unless you're talking realtime for streaming?
calm jacinth
yes, realtime
blazing halo
Meh. An i7 would do you. xD
Realtime would likely involve either placebo or zerolatency, so not all that CPU-intensive in either case.
But they have somewhat divergent requirements - H264 scales well with threads (it makes a lot of sense to line compressions up sequentially), while H265 is still pretty dependent on single-thread performance (it makes quite a bit of sense to run compressions in parallel).
calm jacinth
say, do you know why music keeps cutting out when connected to a dedicated server?
blazing halo
No idea. It's not streamed from the server.
calm jacinth
i figured, maybe it's an Alpha 6 thing
wow! jackpot! Xeon does support ECC so i can buy the cheap good stuff 😄
blazing halo
Make sure it also supports buffered RAM.
calm jacinth
240-Pin Unbuffered DIMM
blazing halo
Most server stuff comes as buffered ECC, while - as far as I can tell - many consumer-grade systems support unbuffered ECC.
blazing halo
Make sure it's unbuffered.
From my own experience hunting these down, unbuffered ECC was a rare unicorn.
calm jacinth
good point, seller might be a fool :C
blazing halo
And make sure it supports ECC in your specific configuration - that's also not a given.
Paste the module's FCC ID or manufacturer number.
(the latter would be much better)
calm jacinth
KVR16E11/8
psssh bot doesn't permit intel ARK links :C
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
32 GBMemory Types
DDR3 and DDR3L 1333/1600 at 1.5VMax # of Memory Channels
2Max Memory Bandwidth
25.6 GB/sECC Memory Supported ‡
Yes
oh no, have to check mobo which i don't remember off the top of my head
blazing halo
Google seems to agree: unbuffered.
So if you need unbuffered ECC RAM, then KVR16E11/8 is a valid option.
Just remember that you can't mix ECC and non-ECC, so unless you have all-ECC already - you'll have to replace them wholesale.
(though I'd still advise to replace to 2x8, so that you can get both benefits - size & upgradability - in one shot)
calm jacinth
mobo is MS-7816 which does not support ECC :C
blazing halo
Well, there you go I suppose.
calm jacinth
yup, only the expensive options are on the table
👀 2 x 16 GiB DDR5 is $162; 2 x 8 GiB DDR3 is $90
welp 🤐 that pretty much answers it
fossil ingot
But, you can load into SP, then re-save as a new save, and load *that* in the DS...
What you described here is what I meant by loading the game in single player haha.
That didn't work when moving it back into multiplayer.
What did work for me was having a friend join, and then I try joining. For some reason that worked. I've got no clue why though. We both have the steam version linked to our epic games accounts, and my friend is playing remotely, but he was able to join w/o issue. Attempting to connect through my wan ip didn't change anything either, since I've been using my local ip.
polar swift
Anyone use a paid hosting server? Back in the day I would run my own modded minecraft servers and it would stutter and lag, but when I bought a server for it, it ran insanely smooth. If you do use one what do you use and is the cheaper sites pretty much the same bang for the buck as for performance wise?
polar swift
This is been the greatest piece of advice I could ask for and I didn't know that the providers are buying servers from the same companies, that's crazy. It's more that when I play with my cousin the game and most of the times it's kind of poopy with the connections, I had issues driving vehicles because the lag was insane, but I was thinking about starting a server, but I cannot remember the password to get to port forwarding and idk if connection wise would even be fixed, but I remember when it came to Minecraft it was just the smoothest experience I have ever had online
He hosted the games and it's definitely lag from his end on the hosting part, but I never rented a server for Satisfactory, I am a little tight on money and didn't want to shell out $10 a month, but if it is recommended for something like that I definitely wouldn't mind paying because I also don't want to pay for something and it just isn't as great as a service or something happens.
polar swift
about 30 minutes away, with dedicated servers you don't need to port forward?
We also talked about how if one of us isn't there and the other wanted to hop on to do some things to our factory we wanted to do that too
I'll probably just stick with renting one then, I'll do some reddit research. The only thing I am worried about with it is we play on experimental mode and I have seen Survival Servers say it supports it, I'll give that one a try and see how that goes
nvm, that one costs $24 a month KEKW
Yeah, US
We might try using Indifferent Broccoli, also I saw a reddit page of someone having the same issue as I am currently having as well, but they had to switch to another server provider because they were getting bad ticks per second on the later side of the game, which is where we have our big issues
Also it seems a lot of people are vouching for Indifferent Broccoliso that's pretty nice to see
calm jacinth
👀 i reconnected to the dedicated server this morning and it didn't auto-sign me in as admin, i signed in, then i discovered upon joining the game that it is treating me as a new player...lost all of the stuff that i was carrying and had equiped
i reconnected and inventory still gone
ooo a third player joined the server when i was gone
i found myself
side note: i really don't like how it doesn't show the player name...icon can show they're offline by itself
calm jacinth
well this is a problem...my former body is in the way and there's no way to move it/remove it?
oh 👀 i killed my former self
that...works 
blazing halo
That sometimes happens.
calm jacinth
but it shouldn't 😄
blazing halo
It shouldn't, but it does. Regardless, there's nothing you can do about it.
calm jacinth
i complained 😄
i found 2x8 GiB sticks on Ebay that I ordered so that problem should be taken care of (24 GiB installed memory when it is in)
question: why does the dedicated server seemingly restart whenever it feels like it?
blazing halo
For a given "whenever it feels like" = 24 hours.
heavy steeple
I just got a server going on a VM a buddy has for me to use. In a Data Center. Installed the server files through SteamCMD. We wanted to use the save I had going from my SP game. So I went into my saves and uploaded the last save I just performed in the SP. But after uploading it and then launching into the server, nothing loaded from the save. What did I do wrong?
calm jacinth
For a given "whenever it feels like" = 24 hours.
24 hours = game simulation time or real time?
calm jacinth
I just got a server going on a VM a buddy has for me to use. In a Data Center. I...
i think the "Session Name" field in the game under "Server Settings" must match the save name (without the extension)
mine is called "Main" so the save file is called Main.extension in the file system
heavy steeple
Yeah I figured that part out after looking at some info. I appreciate it.
calm jacinth
TBH, "Session Name" is super confusing, "Save Name" or "World Name" would be less so
blazing halo
24 hours = game simulation time or real time?
Real time.
calm jacinth
👀 really? it didn't seem to be at the same hour to me...on top of that, it seemed to let you connect, and then immediately restart again after like 20 minutes
super wonky in my experience
molten leaf
I need help setting up a dedicated server, but like, I'm stuck way before Satisfactory is even a thing, I'm not being allowed to install steamcmd, because the steam account either is or is not root, it's honestly very confusing.
blazing halo
I need help setting up a dedicated server, but like, I'm stuck way before Satisf...
What distro are you on?
||(please say Debian or Ubuntu xD)||
molten leaf
SteamCMD can install Satisfactory DS via anonymous account
All I know is the account I set up for it doesn't have thr correct access privledges and I do not know if it has too much or not enough access. This is Mint Cinnamon 5.4.8
molten leaf
Have you tried getting steamcmd from your package manager?
Sorry, user steam is not allowed to execute '/usr/local/bin/apt install steamcmd' as root on Artemis.
blazing halo
Under Debian, all I had to do was add i386 and then apt install steamcmd
That would indicate that the user steam doesn't have sudo permissions, I would guess.
Try logging into root and running the install from there.
molten leaf
I've seen ten billion warning that say never do anything with steam as root or the entire universe will collapse in on itself.
blazing halo
Doesn't matter.
Forget steam for a minute.
Log into the system as root.
Package management needs administrator privileges anyway.
molten leaf
I'm as close to root as it will let me get, typing in the admin password every other command.
blazing halo
I don't want you to be close to root, I want you to be root.
molten leaf
I don;t know how to do that without typing a password every single time.
blazing halo
Log in as root.
molten leaf
Everyone screams at me not to ever ever never ever never ever be logged in as root.
blazing halo
Get to the login prompt, and when it asks about the username, say root.
Bullshit.
Some things need admin privileges.
Package management is one of them.
The warning is so that you don't actually run shit as root,
that would be bad in the long run, yes.
molten leaf
Okay so uh. how do I login as root?
blazing halo
How are you connecting to the machine?
molten leaf
through anydesk at the moment, but I can walk over to it if need be.
blazing halo
Right. Try sudo su -
molten leaf
okay it worked
blazing halo
Right. Now apt update followed by apt install steamcmd.
If it complains about it not existing,
try dpkg --add-architecture i386 and then the above again.
molten leaf
It worked on the first try, thanks!
molten leaf
/usr/bin/steam (I had the foresight to switch to the steam folder)
blazing halo
Uhhh, what?
molten leaf
The guide on Steam told me to do this.
blazing halo
Because if it is, it's wrong.
molten leaf
It's returning nothing.
blazing halo
Are you still logged in as root?
molten leaf
I am now.. and it;s still returning a command prompt
blazing halo
which steamcmd is returning nothing?
molten leaf
Correct.
blazing halo
As root.
molten leaf
Correct.
blazing halo
Did it install?
molten leaf
root@warped nacelleemis:/home/steam# which steamcmd
root@warped nacelleemis:/home/steam#
That didn't worrk..
It sure looked like it did
blazing halo
Try in backticks.
Anyway.
What does apt install steamcmd say now? What about apt list --installed | grep steamcmd?
warped nacelle
thx for the tag ...lol
molten leaf
It is now caught in a loop that says it can't get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend.
locked by process 66389 (apt)
and you don;t wanna know what the other command returned.
blazing halo
If I didn't want to know, I wouldn't ask.
Did you close the terminal window before apt finished?
molten leaf
apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
blazing halo
Yeah, ignore that warning today.
molten leaf
It wasn;t ever going to finish, I know that much
blazing halo
It wasn;t ever going to finish, I know that much
Why?
DID YOU or DID YOU NOT close the terminal window before apt finished?
molten leaf
Because it kept spitting "can't get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend.
locked by process 66389 (apt)" out thousands of times.
blazing halo
It's spitting that out, because there's another apt process that didn't finish.
Find the terminal window that has that attached.
It's probably asking about something.
molten leaf
Whatever it may or may not have been asking for also got closed out.
blazing halo
So, you did close it before it was done.
molten leaf
So many times, you have no idea.
blazing halo
Okay. Reboot the machine and pray that it can still install packages after this.
molten leaf
It's a new install that exists only to play games.
blazing halo
You do not close apt when it's doing shit, okay?
Doing that at an inopportune time may do lots of weird shit, from being unable to install packages,
through being unable to run software,
to being unable to boot.
Seriously. It's your package manager. Your entire system is built on packages.
It's like interrupting a surgeon.
_<
molten leaf
I get that, but I'm operating on a clone, and I have an infinite number of clones in the freezer.
Assembly Line Science!
blazing halo
Did you reboot it?
molten leaf
Yes.
molten leaf
Eternal loop with no other processes running!
It;s waiting for cache lock, and will continue to do so..
I'm patient.
blazing halo
Well, I'd say that clone is fucked.
Bring out another.
Since you have a full freezer.
molten leaf
I'll get back to you after it's thawed.
... There is a GUI Package Manager.. I wish I known that before I scrambled it's brains.
molten leaf
If there was a way to just get the dedicated server to show up in my steam account that would be great too...
okay, I'm back to square one, don't have the privileges to install steamcmd!
blazing halo
okay, I'm back to square one, don't have the privileges to install steamcmd!
sudo su -
Breakdown: sudo = do with super-user privileges; su = switch user, - with replacing the environment
Since you're not specifying a user, root is assumed.
So that command translates to "using super-user privileges, switch to user root with root's user environment".
You could also login instead, but there are implications to using one or the other.
(not that it matters for your use case)
molten leaf
I figured out what was causing he problem, steamcmd had in fact installed the first time and there was a hidden window asking me to do stuff.
blazing halo
Not sure what a "hidden window" is supposed to be. :/
Neither apt nor steamcmd create "hidden" windows, or any windows at all - they're purely command-line.
In closing, for completeness: depending on your steamcmd package, it may not install to /bin, /usr/bin, or any of the other standard locations. One fix is to include the location per-user in their PATH. Another, and the one I was going to suggest, is to create a soft link in one of the standard locations, like ln -s /wherever/the/hell/apt/put/steamcmd /usr/local/bin/steamcmd.
molten leaf
I finally have the dedicated server downloaded, but I still have no clue how to run it, still does;t show up in steam.
blazing halo
steamcmd is separate from STEAM.
And whenever you're looking for dedicated servers in STEAM - look under TOOLS, not GAMES,
molten leaf
Yes, I have successfuly used steamcmd to download the dedicated server which is a lump on the hard drive.
blazing halo
Well, if you care to look in the server's directory, you'll likely find a shell file there. ;P
molten leaf
It is in fact there!
blazing halo
Will wonders ever cease. :D
molten leaf
Now what?
blazing halo
Since I assume you're running in a GUI, I'd recommend you try double-clicking it and seeing what happens.
molten leaf
I get.. more folders! and nothing that looks like an application.
molten leaf
I'm in /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer
blazing halo
So, after you install the server, you should have a file named FactoryServer.sh.
It's a shell script that will launch the server.
The binary itself is in Engine/Binaries/Linux.
molten leaf
I think i shoudkl mention again at this point that I actually own the game on Epic.
blazing halo
Doesn't make a difference.
Or, shouldn't make a difference. If it ever does, blame someone. ;P
molten leaf
Okay, I'm staring at Factoryserver.sh and when I try to run it I'm told it doesn't exist.
blazing halo
I think nobody really thought someone'd be running it on Linux from a GUI. xD
molten leaf
I have to take it on faith that the terminal prompt is in fact in the directory it's supposed to be in though, which may be part of the problem.
blazing halo
If you look into the file, you'll see that it actually self-determines location via xargs.
I'm not sure how it'd react to being launched in a GUI.
molten leaf
if I click in the window and say open terminal is it reasonable to assume it starts in the directory I started it from?
blazing halo
I'd recommend you actually go into the directory, switch to steam (su steam) and run it from there, all in the terminal.
Save you some headache.
molten leaf
None of this crap works the way it did 15 years ago. -_-
blazing halo
Hell, I skip the shell script and launch the server binary directly.
molten leaf
How am I supposed to know what directory I'm in if the prompt is never anything but $?
molten leaf
I give up, the steam user isn;t allowed access to it's own subfolders.. I've clearly let my skills rot for too long
blazing halo
I would say chown -R steam ... but please don't break your system. ;P
Also, did you use steam as the user that installed the server?
Because you probably didn't.
molten leaf
worst case scenario I thaw another clone
as long as nothing I do damages the hardware
blazing halo
I doubt there's anything you can do in-system (short of overclocking) that could damage your hardware.
And even overclocking, nowadays.
molten leaf
sh: 3: cd: can't cd to SatisFactoryDedicatedServer Why?
molten leaf
One level down from steam, I don;t wanna type the whole thing
blazing halo
....
ls -al /the/whole/thing please
I want to see what it says about the folder itself, so the result for . would be interesting.
Same for ...
(from that perspective)
molten leaf
I'm not sure I understand what you want :/
blazing halo
ls -al /path/to/the/server/folder please
If it doesn't want to as steam, do it as root.
molten leaf
headedsks
blazing halo
?
molten leaf
It can't run the command because it says the folder doesn't exist.
molten leaf
I'm giving up for the night. z.z
I'm
Looking
At
The
Folder
It definitely exists, just.. not in text
blazing halo
It probably means you installed it somewhere where steam doesn't have access.
This is why I always su steam before I install anything steam needs to work with.
molten leaf
it's in /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/
blazing halo
Installed under what user?
molten leaf
steam
blazing halo
Are you sure?
molten leaf
yes
blazing halo
please ls -al /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/
and make sure it's Satis__F__actory
not Satis__f__actory
Remember, Linux is case-sensitive.
molten leaf
I understand
blazing halo
Or just hand me some SSH and the root password, I'll do it for you. 🤣
molten leaf
drwxrwxr-x 6 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:55 .
drwxr-x--- 8 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:51 ..
drwxrwxr-x 6 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:55 Engine
drwxrwxr-x 4 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:55 FactoryGame
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 279 Oct 9 21:55 FactoryServer.sh
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 5 Oct 9 21:55 launcher_id
drwxrwxr-x 2 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:55 linux64
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 45488 Oct 9 21:55 Manifest_DebugFiles_Linux.txt
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 33795 Oct 9 21:55 Manifest_NonUFSFiles_Linux.txt
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 6 Oct 9 21:55 steam_appid.txt
drwxrwxr-x 4 steam steam 4096 Oct 9 21:55 steamapps
-rwxrwxr-x 1 steam steam 33151882 Oct 9 21:51 steamclient.so
blazing halo
Okay, so that looks OK, actually.
and when you run /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh what happens?
molten leaf
I haven't even gotten to making the server visible on the internet yet.
sh: 1: /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh: not found
blazing halo
Again, are you sure it's capital-F not lowercase-f?
molten leaf
very yes
molten leaf
absolutely yes.
blazing halo
When you type in whoami it says steam?
molten leaf
steam
blazing halo
try /bin/sh /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh
if that doesn't work, I don't know what to tell you.
molten leaf
/bin/sh: 0: cannot open /home/steam/SatisFactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh: No such file
blazing halo
It's lowercase f, isn't it.
molten leaf
It's FactoryServer.sh, I swear!
molten leaf
oh shit..
blazing halo
?
blazing halo
Yes.
molten leaf
I'm sorry. >.>
molten leaf
I was paying attention to the filename, not the flder name.
blazing halo
I hope you're better when tying your shoes in the morning. :D
Because seriously, Perception 1.
xDDDDDDD
molten leaf
It's trying to run but it's throwing out a ton of errors and I;m tired...
blazing halo
Anyway, it should work - now that you can point it an actual file.
blazing halo
It's trying to run but it's throwing out a ton of errors and I;m tired...
Yeah, ignore unless it dies.
That's Unreal Engine for ya.
The last lines - errors/warnings about EOS-P2P and the shop - are actually an indication that it's finished startup.
molten leaf
IT's just hanging.. i don't have a command prompt to configure anything. :/
blazing halo
I don't understand that one.
Apart from the launch command, you don't configure anything through the CLI.
You can use the launch params to configure things like ports.
molten leaf
How do I know what to login to?\
blazing halo
You need to connect to it from the game to move forward.
blazing halo
Doesn't compute.
molten leaf
How do I find the server?
molten leaf
In my dining room?
blazing halo
Great. So in your network.
molten leaf
Yes
blazing halo
I assume you know the IP since you're connecting via rdesk?
molten leaf
I know the IP of the box, I don't know the port of the server because I never configured that
blazing halo
If you read the wiki, you'd know the default is 15777.
But you don't even need to do that, because the game will fill in 15777 in the "port" field by default. All you need to do is not change it.
Try launching the game and trying to connect to the server, before you ask further questions.
molten leaf
holy crap I think it;s working..
No.. No it;s not.. it;s just endlessly trying to connect.
blazing halo
Firewall?
What does the server log say?
Is it trying to connect to itself via ipv6?
molten leaf
oh, windows firewall maybe..
molten leaf
No. it's talking about handshakes being complete though
blazing halo
Ctrl+C the server, add -multihome=0.0.0.0 to the launch params.
(I hope you don't need it working over IPv6)
molten leaf
I don;t think I've ever used IPv6
blazing halo
What does the log say? Can you show me?
Also, if this is a VM, do you need to forward ports from the host?
Default are 15777/UDP, 15000/UDP, 7777/UDP.
molten leaf
oh crap, the server crashed when I tried to connect :/
molten leaf
gona PM you
blazing halo
If you must.
molten leaf
It's not leting me send stuff
blazing halo
Oh look. My eye can do that tick after all.
molten leaf
The only thing I can make out if that its freaking out because it can't find leaderboards?
molten leaf
Oh I see whta's going on.. steam isn;t running
molten leaf
all I ever wanted was to just be able to launch the server from steam
molten leaf
That's not going to happen, I'm sorry.
blazing halo
Drag the whole file if you need to.
molten leaf
besides, I want to stop working on this an hour ago.
It;s saying it;s too large to upload, and I can edit it, but if I try to shove it through discord at you It just stares blankly at me.
blazing halo
Much like how I'm staring blankly at you right now.
Unless the file is hundreds of MB (FactoryGame.log), it should send no problem.
molten leaf
If the log is actually saved somewhere, I haven't known where to look for it in 14 years.
I'm just trying to copy crap out of the terminal
blazing halo
Inside the server folder
FactoryGame/Saved/Logs
The latest run is FactoryGame.log; the previous one is FactoryGame_2.log. Every one after that is timestamped.
molten leaf
Yeah.. still doesn't wanna shove itself through discord. 48k is just too big apparently.
blazing halo
No it's not.
molten leaf
I'm going to bed, I'm sorry.
calm jacinth
so i am henceforth known as "258?"
oblique isle
Anyone know the reason why the server reboots quite regular
undone sky
it reboots by default every 24 hours iirc
oblique isle
Thanks. Anyone got one running on less than 12GB RAM
blazing halo
Thanks. Anyone got one running on less than 12GB RAM
It can run on as little as 8 GiB, as long as you don't actually play on it. :D (hell, it might survive on as little as what, 5-6 GiB, if you don't start a new game or load a save)
Let me put it this way: if you have 12 GiB or less (but more than 8), you can probably play on it for a while... but expect to start running out of memory at some point. It also depends on what OS you're hosting the server on - it'll last longer under Linux (due to the smaller memory footprint of the OS) than it will under Windows.
blazing halo
Standard Disclaimers Apply. ;]
tiny topaz
Thanks. Anyone got one running on less than 12GB RAM
my medium-played server can run using 8gb ram, but as soon as i play on it it increases by playtime appearently xd
blazing halo
my medium-played server can run using 8gb ram, but as soon as i play on it it in...
Well... sort of, yeah.
It depends on structures built and area explored/modified. Of course it'll increase with playtime if you're active.
tiny topaz
It depends on structures built and area explored/modified. Of course it'll incre...
yep
I ran statisfactory on a 16gb ram dedicated server (only disk was shared i believe), had a minecraft network running using up 10gb and sent statisfactory to use part swap and the main game to use 5gb internal ram, and it really ate ram making the minecraft servers crash lmao
woven geyser
sounds like a job well done then?
stiff mason
hi, new here, came to ask if anyone knows how to change a server from private to friends only, cant seem to make the change stick after I choose it.
tame solar
Would you mind if I uploaded this image to the wiki?
blazing halo
Would you mind if I uploaded this image to the wiki?
I hold no rights to the game itself, and the image isn't in any way artistic. It's a technical image, and thus not protected under copyright itself. It doesn't contain any personally-identifiable information, either. The depicted icons, UI and so on are protected under copyright - but that's CSS, not me, and I'd expect it's not an issue on the Wiki dedicated to the game itself.
tl;dr - I have no rights to it, you're welcome to do whatever ;)
Fun fact: the reason you want to use it on the Wiki (it depicts a game mechanic in a technical, clinical way) is the same reason for it lacking copyright. :D
tame solar
I'm asking because you took the image, licensing is solved on the wiki
(I could just upload without asking but it seems weird not to at least ask)
blazing halo
I know it sounds weird, and it does sound like a courtesy one should extend... but I really, honestly have no rights to the image what-so-ever, and you can do with it as you wish (at least as far as my rights are concerned).
I suppose the social contract would be fulfilled by you giving me a "heads-up" to the tune of "Yo, imma use this image on the wiki. Thanks." or something. :D
Even if I did mind your use, I have no legal leg to stand on.
But sure - go ahead, use it freely for any and all purposes and through any methods, incl. purposes and methods not heretofore imagined or created.
In fact, I'm not adverse to providing technical images of things, if you point me towards the thing you want a technical image of. DM me if you need something, with the understanding that I may not be immediately available.
karmic merlin
my game crashes, i've noticed a train station has despawned
as soon as a train wants to drive to it, it crashes
what the hell happend here
yesterday everything was fine
blazing halo
Client crash, or server crash?
karmic merlin
good question, i dont know. I got wierd erros, but i have restarted the server now
seems to be working fine
only wierd thing in the logs are:
dunno what this is
blazing halo
That's normal.
I am fairly convinced that this is just the game saying "Nope; no need for me to do any work here, as the players have never been here" as it goes through the map's regions.
blazing halo
Log?
blazing halo
Also - did the server crash, or just the client?
karmic merlin
time out
but i saw "loading game" while opening the server manager
so i think the server keeps restarting
blazing halo
You said "my provider" - who's hosting your game?
blazing halo
What are the specs for the server you have?
karmic merlin
20 GB ram and shared cpu
cant see the cpu config currently
strange thing is, everything was working fine yesterday evening and this morning
i didnt do anything in the game
and neither did my buddy
blazing halo
Wow, that's some pricing. xD
$17/mo for the base server, then another $17/mo for the RAM. xD
karmic merlin
yeah i know
blazing halo
Someone should tell them that the base server is a non-starter :D
(good luck running U6 on 10 GB :D)
karmic merlin
with 20 gb its fine
but it dont know why my game keeps crashing
logged on to server
blazing halo
It is, but they offer the base server (at $17/mo no less!) in a configuration that will, at best, allow you to play the demo.
karmic merlin
yeah waiting for a response
blazing halo
At those prices, it might actually be cheaper to host at home. xD
(with the PC running 24/7)
karmic merlin
not a option for me unfortunately
molten leaf
Wow.. the server doesn't even wait for me to connect anymore, it just crashes when I run it, and I've done nothing since last night.
sacred citrus
The same thing happened to a server I play on also on low.ms
Working fine last night but today wouldn't start, status: unknown on the host.
The server has switched host now so I don't know what was wrong. The staff on low.ms's discord asked to make a ticket so might be worth a try if you haven't already
steep bluff
anyone have extreme lag playing this game? 3 players online. t6 finished and need to finish the phase 3 part.. but its bad lag.
to the point its unplayable almost. the server is hosted.
steep bluff
only thing i can think of is one of the guys believes that clocking his factory at 25% and building more constructors to save power is the best way to play...
blazing halo
anyone have extreme lag playing this game? 3 players online. t6 finished and nee...
Please describe the lag.
steep bluff
every 5 mins its a lag stuff stops moving.. you can move around and if you are building you can build multiple things. just stays blue until the idk 30 sec lag is finished and then its playable for another 5 mins. the guy who believes lowering clock speed to 25% and having 4x the factory pieces plays the most so has the most stuff wondering if lag is coming from there or if its just a bad save
he has a line to do 10 super computers and ALOT of other things in 1 region if that matters
blazing halo
every 5 mins its a lag stuff stops moving.. you can move around and if you are b...
In a way - yes... The save time depends on how much you've explored, and how much shit you have.
Underclocking to 25% means you need 4x the buildings to get the same throughput.
cedar flame
I seem to have lost administrative rights of my server...
Is there any way for me to take them back?
Ope, figured it out
I'm dumb, nevermind 😄
steep bluff
In a way - yes... The save time depends on how much you've explored, and how muc...
thank you ! i think it is that now to looking at the save!
mental locust
@cedar flame you better not loos admin rights lol
cedar flame
<@508848024781324299> you better not loos admin rights lol
I had logged onto my server while I wasn't connected to the internet, so I had to reauthenticate once my Steam account came back up
mental locust
aww ok
blazing halo
@steep bluff please don't DM without asking, mkay?
cedar flame
Okay, my server is active and running as a service and I can connect to it from my home LAN, but my brother cannot connect over the internet. I've set up port forwarding, but it doesn't appear to be working.
mental locust
open ports?
blazing halo
Public IP have?
cedar flame
open ports?
Internally the ports are 15777, 15000, and 7777
blazing halo
And externally.
cedar flame
And externally.
Do they have to match?
blazing halo
Yes.
mental locust
rofl
cedar flame
Got it, adjusting now to test again
blazing halo
For some reason, the game dislikes mismatched ports, tunnels, reverse-proxies, stuff like that.
cedar flame
Sorry, thought I had read somewhere that as of U6, shifting ports was allowed
mental locust
it hates ignerant people too
blazing halo
Probably because it uses motherfucking encryption on its UDP data.
Which I still haven't wrapped my head around.
blazing halo
Sorry, thought I had read somewhere that as of U6, shifting ports was allowed
As of U6, you can change all of the ports. This wasn't possible before.
mental locust
why doesnt satisfactory have a dedicated forum
blazing halo
You're looking at it.
mental locust
cedar flame
As of U6, you can *change* all of the ports. This wasn't possible before.
Oh oooh, you can change them entirely but still need to match them internal to external
Right?
blazing halo
Yeah, pretty much.
mental locust
i can host 4 diffrent instances with diffrent ports
blazing halo
As far as I'm aware. It may have changed, or I may have assumed based on what I tried before.
But as far as I know, they must line up 1:1.
mental locust
wish this game used multi core performance
cedar flame
Got it. Looks like my registration as a service is working at least, server is coming back up on its own after a reboot
mental locust
linux or windows?
cedar flame
Linux, Ubuntu Server 22
mental locust
https:// pterodactyl .io/
cedar flame
This is?
mental locust
Pterodactyl® is a free, open-source game server management panel built with PHP, React, and Go. Designed with security in mind, Pterodactyl runs all game servers in isolated Docker containers while exposing a beautiful and intuitive UI to end users.
cedar flame
Neat
mental locust
can access it via webgui from any device
cedar flame
I'll give it a go later on, at the moment just trying to figure our how to do it basic-bitch style. I don't understand containers just yet
mental locust
i understand 🙂
cedar flame
I think so? I opened them in my router and when I run the ss -plnu | grep UE command I get the same output as prescribed on the Wiki
mental locust
firewall?
cedar flame
I'm able to connect to the server from my gaming PC on my local LAN
If the firewall were blocking, I couldn't do that could I?
mental locust
depends
cedar flame
I don't think the firewall is active. I tried to set up the rules as prescribed by applications.d in the wiki, but I don't appear to have an applications.d file...
blazing halo
PortCheckTool
Are you sure your port check tool actually checks UDP? Because 99% of the on-line tests don't.
cedar flame
That may be the issue
blazing halo
(mainly because there's no good standardised way to test UDP)
Okay. Let's go back to my original question, which was: is your WAN IP public?
cedar flame
Yes
blazing halo
How do you know?
blazing halo
You'd want to log into your router and find your WAN IP.
Then you'd go to a site like whatismyip.com and check if the result matches what you have for WAN IP.
If it does - congratulations, your router's WAN port is exposed to the Internet, and you can control ports.
cedar flame
It does match
blazing halo
If it does not, you do not have a WAN IP that is public (there's at least 1 more router between you and then Internet), and you can not control ports.
blazing halo
It does match
Okay. Public IP - check.
I assume the port forwards are set up correctly, and they point to a correct LAN IP to forward those packets to?
cedar flame
I assume the port forwards are set up correctly, and they point to a correct LAN...
Look good?
blazing halo
While you're at it, you may wish to assing a static IP lease to your server machine (if you haven't already). Port forwards do not update with DHCP changes.
cedar flame
Not yet - my bro isn't available to attempt a connection.
The extent of my testing is openporttool 😦
blazing halo
I can do basic testing for you, if you hand over your IP.
cedar flame
May I DM?
blazing halo
(I won't launch the game to do this, since my router doesn't quite like Satisfactory ;P but I can test directly)
Go ahead.
shadow horizon
how does one reset the server password without losing progress
mental locust
How do I reset the Administrator password?
In the location where you can find the server's saved-game files, look for a file called ServerSettings.port, where port is the server port number (e. g. ServerSettings.15777) and delete it. This will delete all server settings relating to passwords, server name, and session name, and you will be asked for a new Administrator password when connecting as when the server was first set up.
shadow horizon
ok its asking for the auth password rn
but ill try it
did not work
soryy gotta set up sharex
blazing halo
You need to shut the server down, delete the file, and start the server back up.
shadow horizon
ok
i can only delete it then restart it i run it thru indiferent brocoli
i can ask in their discord
blazing halo
Rule #1: if you're having trouble with a paid-for game host, talk to their tech support first. They know stuff about their setup we don't, and they have access you never will.
shadow horizon
ok
calm moth
anyone here have experience with setting up a server on a pterodactyl panel? i'm having some issues.
calm moth
<@338192747754160138> yes
i keep getting this error message
/entrypoint.sh: line 69: 41 Illegal instruction (core dumped) ./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame ?listen -Port=${SERVER_PORT} -ServerQueryPort=${QUERY_PORT} -BeaconPort=${BEACON_PORT} -multihome=0.0.0.0 $(if ${DISABLE_SEASONAL}; then echo "-DisableSeasonalEvents"; fi)
ok what egg did you use?
mental locust
no
calm moth
oh?
mental locust
dm me
signal knot
hello, I wanted to know how I create a dedicated server, I don't have another computer, and I would like to know if I need to pay (my english is not good)
abstract garnet
if you can run the server on your desktop and keep it running, then no, you don't have to pay. If not, then yes.
blazing halo
Yes, your best bet would be to purchase a server at a hosting company.
abstract garnet
running on desktop you need to setup the server and do port forwards from your router
blazing halo
Not necessarily - if all they want it is for local play, they don't need to port-forward.
abstract garnet
true 🙂 I assumed interwebs
just don't do the same mistake as i did. Don't pick nitrado 😄
blazing halo
FUCK NITRADO
blazing halo
If you don't mind being scammed. :D
abstract garnet
😄
blazing halo
Because yeah, I don't give half a flying fuck about what they offer hardware- and/or performance-wise.
They done fuckd up out of the gate, so I don't care.
signal knot
if you can run the server on your desktop and keep it running, then no, you don'...
k, ty
signal knot
no need, I got discouraged in playing, and I'm from Brazil, have a lot of lag
but, tysm
balmy pebble
i got a dedicated server .. got it up and running .. everything looks great, but then i noticed that items on the belt arent syncing right and if they go on a lift, it looks like the trays on the left is below the lift. how can i fix the sync issue?
mental locust
Who do you use to host?
balmy pebble
G portal
mental locust
G portal?
@balmy pebble I'll do you a favor I can make you a instance on mine if you want
balmy pebble
ok
balmy pebble
ok
molten leaf
Uhm.. why is my server pausing when I log out? The whole reason I set up a dedicated server box was so that the game would keep running while I'm asleep.
molten leaf
In game <@277581437082009620>
There's nothing under server manager that looks remotely like what I'm looking for?
Oh I see it now >.>
Thank you
balmy pebble
ok
mental locust
anyone else need help
cedar flame
When I was hosting my server on Nitrado, it kept changing my "pause with no players" setting back to true. Dunno if that's relevant but it sure was annoying.
blazing halo
i got a dedicated server .. got it up and running .. everything looks great, but...
Not fixable - related to game logic , not networking. more than networking. ... it's complicated. Still not fixable.
mental locust
@blazing halo its odd on my server theres missing spots on belts
when i join a instance he is on on my server
hows your day
blazing halo
when i join a instance he is on on my server
What are you trying to say here?
stiff mason
question, how can i change my server from private to friends only, i click the drop down but it doesnt stick.
blazing halo
hows your day
Like every other day, really... I'm not one of those people that can dazzle you with their day-to-day activities... "Aaaaand today, I went skydiving... with Fred, you know Fred right? We met him at the Cool Kids Fundraiser last March..."
mental locust
sorry..
blazing halo
question, how can i change my server from private to friends only, i click the d...
Neither of those applies to the dedicated server.
stiff mason
I am running a dedicated server and am trying to make it so my friends can play?
like,
they have been able to join before,
blazing halo
Yeah, okay, but the server doesn't touch distribution-mediated sessions.
It works on IP traffic.
stiff mason
so, it has nothing to do with the server?
blazing halo
Like I said, neither of those applies to the DS.
stiff mason
and everything to do with my internet hardware
blazing halo
Pretty much, yes.
You need to have a WAN IP that is public, and you need to forward ports from your router.
The only method of access control is the password. Otherwise, anyone that knows the address and port can connect.
mental locust
@blazing halo my lifes boring and i didnt mean to keep bothering you
blazing halo
Did I, at any point, say you were boring me?
stiff mason
no but you come across as an annoyed jerk who has no time for anyone
mental locust
no
stiff mason
the sarcasm is dripping off you
blazing halo
no but you come across as an annoyed jerk who has no time for anyone
That says more about you than me, I think. ;]
stiff mason
maybe
blazing halo
@mental locust Don't worry. I'm just tired of people asking me that, because it reminds me that my life is the same day-in and day-out, year-in and year-out.
mental locust
same i work at walmart... stocking eggs and milk then i go home no frieands and live in a kinda recoveryhouse in a expensive city
blazing halo
Deep down in my shrivelled, black little heart, I would like to be one of those people that can dazzle you with their day-to-day activities, I suppose.
I want to be cool about it, but... huh, guess I'm a bit bitter regardless. But I have nobody to blame but myself, so.
Well, no, okay, I can blame a whole bunch of people. But I'm not doing anything about it either, so...
blazing halo
no but you come across as an annoyed jerk who has no time for anyone
In fact, what I have is time. :D
Now, where was that piece of rope I was saving for that one special occasion...
mental locust
@blazing halo think about this we all live to work and retire then die and in the end it does not matter
blazing halo
You shouldn't mix those two.
Life in itself doesn't matter, but that doesn't mean you should dedicate yourself to work and then die - that is "a meaning", and one crafted for you.
We live in a world that we set up that way, but that doesn't mean that's the meaning of it.
mental locust
Your right!
blazing halo
Yeah, fat lot of good it does me... xD
But eh, I suppose it's better to think of a world that's been set up against me,
than a world that's just a meaningless struggle.
I mean,
it changes nothing, in the end.
But the fact that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer is not by accident, and it wouldn't do to forget that.
The original narrative was "This is your place in life, don't aspire beyond your station"
but that narrative was unpalatable to the people... so it got changed.
Now it's "your life is in your hands" and "you can change the world". Both are bullshit, the reality is still that "this is your place in life, don't aspire".
blazing halo
It's just the words that got changed, to fool you into thinking that if you're failing
then it's your fault.
It's not. Not entirely, anyway.
mental locust
So how's your satisfactory jerney
blazing halo
Taking a break right now.
mental locust
Have any systems?
mental locust
Game systems
blazing halo
As in, game consoles?
mental locust
Yes
blazing halo
No. I never believed in game consoles. PC4ever, #pcmasterrace etc. etc.
Also, I never really had friends I could count on, so I never had a reason to own a device for group play.
(and let's face it - we weren't "well off" in any way, so even if I did - I still likely wouldn't have had one, because they cost too damn much)
mental locust
Awww I understand
blazing halo
I did own a very ornery Chinese NES clone (Pegasus) and a number of "999-in-one" carts for it. I didn't get to play it too much, because the "word on the street" was that it "breaks TVs" (AKA my parents thought I shouldn't play too much, so my father picked up a bullshit reason that seems to have made the rounds back in those days).
My father seemed to like the excuse, too... I was told I shouldn't do a number of things because it would "break {X}". It was a curious mix of "don't do it because I don't want you to" and "I don't actually know any better", as it turned out years later when I queried him about some of it.
Since the unlicensed clone, the only game system I ever bought and owned was a PS3, which I got for (comparative) peanuts at a pawn shop, so that my father could hook it up to his exercise bike.
I did own an ATARI, though!
(still, that's technically not a "game system", despite many treating it as such)
You?
I assume you do, since you asked.
mental locust
Yep lol
blazing halo
So, was there a point, or were you just curious?
blazing halo
I mean that in the most sunshine-y way! :D
mental locust
@blazing halo yes was curious
calm moth
can a AMD Opteron Processor run a satisfactory server?
cedar flame
Hey, logged into my server and shortly thereafter got the message "The Server will restart in 30 minutes."
What is this, why is this, and how can I make it not this?
oblique ice
The server needs to restart every 24 hours or so to 'retain it's sanity' or something, I don't know the technical details. I also don't know how to schedule that.
vagrant delta
Weird UI glitch on dedicated server
cedar flame
The server needs to restart every 24 hours or so to 'retain it's sanity' or some...
Can't blame it - I need to restart every 24 hours to retain my sanity too
oblique ice
lol
cedar flame
Does it at least have the decency to save the active game before rebooting?
oblique ice
Weird UI glitch on dedicated server
That's a graphics error unrelated to MP, try verifying files.
oblique ice
Does it at least have the decency to save the active game before rebooting?
It should be saving, I think.
I don't actually know the answer though, sorry.
cedar flame
I'll find out in about eight minutes 😄
vagrant delta
That's a graphics error unrelated to MP, try verifying files.
it was fine just happed out of know where and when you get off trains too fast it glitches and let you use any items with respawn or build as it think you ae still in train
copper grotto
I tried hosting through nitrado but it ran like shit. Also tried running a dedicated server on my machine but my PC isn't powerful enough to run the server and play the game. I guess my question is. What's the best option for renting a server?
Is there a specific company with a good reputation hosting satisfactory servers
copper grotto
Will look into it thanks
blazing halo
What is this, why is this, and how can I make it not this?
You can supposedly change the length of this, and potentially disable it with a value of 0... but I've had no luck doing either.
blazing halo
I tried hosting through nitrado but it ran like shit. Also tried running a dedic...
So, apparently Nitrado has shit offering on top of being lying, scammy bastards. Good to know.
blazing halo
Weird UI glitch on dedicated server
Nope, that's on your end. :D It's a GPU glitch.
blazing halo
can a AMD Opteron Processor run a satisfactory server?
In theory - I don't see why not.
stark light
hey guys, i have given up on google.
anyone here that knows how to fix ''outgoing reliable buffer overflow'' error message on a rented server?
calm moth
In theory - I don't see why not.
just got told the cpu is 12 years old which is true
but doesn't help me with figuring out whats causing the error
like shouldnt there be something else?
blazing halo
but doesn't help me with figuring out whats causing the error
Could you share this error? Because as far as I can see, you haven't.
Ah, no, you have. "Illegal instruction".
Does it say what illegal instruction?
oblique ice
So, it’s like a crash window that just goes FATAL ERROR with a derpface and no more info?
blazing halo
Yeah, from what I can tell, the Opteron has up to SSE 3.
Satisfactory requires SSE 4.1.
calm moth
ahhh okay thanks
blazing halo
My previous judgement call was based on the presented capacities, but I completely forgot that instruction sets are a thing.
Not blazing fast by any stretch, but with up to 3.4 GHz - it would've been adequate otherwise.
mental locust
People and those strange providers...
calm jacinth
whoa, what the hell? i changed this refinery from producing residual fuel to smokeless powder and herp derps ensued:
Black Powder image and type is wrong, Heavy Residual went to 50000(!)
go home Refinery, you are drunk
i changed it to alternate copper refining then back to Smokeless Powder and it's better but still looks broken (heavy residue not lighting up)
mental locust
lol
shut saffron
The server needs to restart every 24 hours or so to 'retain it's sanity' or some...
a bit late: but a restart simply helps lower the RAM and CPU usage
foggy agate
I tried hosting through nitrado but it ran like shit. Also tried running a dedic...
AWS ofc🤣
mental locust
Nitrado is horrible and deceptive
No hardware specs listed.. and their site claims mod support
@shut saffron but won't it eventually go higher and higher in ram usage
As the save gets bigger
shut saffron
it will, but it also will if you don't restart
in short: RAM usage will start to spike up after some time and eventually crash
a restart helps flush out the unnecessary RAM consumers
mental locust
Awww I understand
blazing halo
That, and apparently resolve bullshit issues that sometimes crop up.
Like the inability to place pipes (never leaving the blue placement stage), or bullshit imbalances of fluid flow which really shouldn't be there when you tally all of your production/consumption and take rates into account.
Both issues experienced - and cleared via restart - by yours truly.
I've also seen it help connectivity issues (being unable to rejoin correctly after dropping), and one-offs (issues I've seen reported once).
Of course, the "24h restart" is an inelegant solution. The proper way to fix all of these would be to properly debug and fix the core issues, instead of relying on the restart to clear out any accumulated trash.
But eh... the devs would likely have to spend hundreds of in-game hours to track all of these down, so I understand. Doesn't mean I'm satisfied with it, but I understand.
floral belfry
anyone managed to setup a dedicated server for update 6 on a seperate debian server?
or ubuntu
cant seem to get mine to work, crashes on world creation
mental locust
Ya
mental locust
Lol petradactle?@cedar flame
cedar flame
I don't know what that means
I got Docker installed and am waiting for some free time to play with it
mental locust
https:// pterodactyl .io/
steep bluff
We have our server saving every hour. And also resetting twice a day on the hour. Why does the game not auto save before restart? We lose a hour each time lmao.
kindred sierra
then make restart happe 1 minute after the save
i think thats a basic problem with all dedicated server gaems
shutdown does not force save.
dry stump
In my dedicated server, we had some connection issues the one day and now we just have random offline engineers floating around the map… is there a way to get rid of them without having to start everything from scratch?
royal wyvern
In my dedicated server, we had some connection issues the one day and now we jus...
you can kill them. but it drops the loot of that player
not sure if ranged weapons work, but it worked with melee for me
dry stump
Ah, cool. So, basically revive them and beat them to death?
royal wyvern
Ah, cool. So, basically revive them and beat them to death?
there was nothing to revive for me. just an offline player sitting around on my platform
dry stump
Yeah, that’s what they are doing. Just sitting.
I’ll give that a try! I appreciate it!
royal wyvern
I’ll give that a try! I appreciate it!
there is no indication that they are taking dmg. just continue hitting them
blazing halo
cant seem to get mine to work, crashes on world creation
RAM?
blazing halo
We have our server saving every hour. And also resetting twice a day on the hour...
It should, AFAIR.
mental locust
Should auto save
blazing halo
... why do people keep misinterpreting my question?
Okay. Let's try this again: "How much RAM do you have available for the server to use?"
(though judging by your answer, it looks like you've figured it out already; it kinda sounds like you have 8 GiB in that machine - the symptom would line up exactly)
mental locust
Rip
vagrant delta
hiya how do you change you server password if you cant access panel as you forgot password can you do it in config if so witch one
calm moth
my server is running but the games says that it is offline, is there a way to see if it is running?
blazing halo
hiya how do you change you server password if you cant access panel as you forgo...
You cannot. You can only delete the server configuration file and reconfigure from scratch.
blazing halo
my server is running but the games says that it is offline, is there a way to se...
How do you mean?
calm moth
so on the command line:
blazing halo
Okay, let's start with the basics. Where's the server?
calm moth
in the game:
calm moth
Okay, let's start with the basics. Where's the server?
in my house but the ports are forwarded.
blazing halo
So in your LAN.
calm moth
So in your LAN.
that too, but i have an IP assigned
i have a webserver also and i can access it
blazing halo
> "but I have an IP assigned"
Not sure what that has to do with anything. Every device that wants to communicate on a network of any sort with the IP protocol needs to have an IP assigned.
What address are you using to connect to your server?
calm moth
What address are you using to connect to your server?
i have a static ip address assigned to the device from my isp
blazing halo
Still doesn't tell me anything.
What address are you using to connect to your server?
calm moth
What address are you using to connect to your server?
the address my isp gave me its not a 192.x.x.x
blazing halo
Like blood from a stone, this guy.
WHAT ADDRESS
ARE YOU USING
TO CONNECT TO THE GAME?
calm moth
do you want me to just throw out my ip???
calm moth
yes
blazing halo
And what makes you think that's a good idea?
calm moth
i want friends to join
blazing halo
Doesn't answer my question. I sense a trend.
What makes you think that you,
connecting from within your LAN,
to a computer also within your LAN
will best connect via the Internet to it?
Use the address appropriate for the intended network.
calm moth
well in that case i'd use the 192.x... ip but i'm trying to make sure that the ip outside of my network is working
blazing halo
Yeah, but you won't be able to do that from within it.
calm moth
well now its working
blazing halo
Even if I generously assumed you know what NAT reflection is, and I even more generously assume you have it set up, and it's set up correctly,
the game doesn't like any sort of tunnels and reverse proxies, and that counts.
So it doesn't work over NAT reflection.
tl;dr you'll need someone else to test your Internet reachability
Also, save yourself the headache and add -multihome=0.0.0.0 (or whatever IPv4 IP you use for your server machine) to launch parameters, so that it doesn't try to do the even more idiotic tunnel between IPv4 and IPv4 (localhost, to boot) over IPv6.
blazing halo
well now its working
Things working when you use them correctly - what a concept. :D
Judging by the fact that you want to dev not just the front-end, but also the back-end (as stated on your website)... you'll want to learn this shit.
calm moth
Judging by the fact that you want to dev not just the front-end, but also *the b...
you are quite rude.
blazing halo
Yes, I am.
Because frankly, I don't care what anyone thinks of me. And if that helps you remember the lesson, my job is done.
calm moth
why are you still going on about this lmao
blazing halo
Because you seem like a budding developer, if your website is anything to go by, and you demonstrated appalling lack of competence while troubleshooting your issue.
calm moth
it was my first time doing game hosting which is very different from website hosting.
blazing halo
That's not the issue.
calm moth
¯_(ツ)_/¯
blazing halo
Everyone does something for the first time sometime.
calm moth
well not everyone has to be rude, yet you are. doesn't help when someone is trying out something new.
blazing halo
What irked me was the fact that I had to keep repeating my questions, and you kept giving me non-answers - you were trying to answer questions you thought I asked, without answering the questions I actually asked.
blazing halo
well not everyone has to be rude, yet you are. doesn't help when someone is tryi...
It doesn't, no. But then, this field isn't for everyone. And while I may come across as rude (more snarky, I suppose), don't be surprised if you run into behaviour like this again. I'm donating my time to help you - your job is to be as useful to me as possible while I'm trying to solve your problem.
And that includes answering the questions I actually asked.
I don't ask my questions because I'm curious, but because I need information. It's as simple as that.
You're my only source of information on your problem.
blazing halo
the address my isp gave me its **not** a 192.x.x.x
By the way, 192.168/16 is not the only private range. There are also 10/8 and 172.16/12 - any one of those would indicate that you have a private IP. And there's also 100.64/10, which is a shared pool typically employed by CGNAT deployments (also not public). And then there's Windows' autoconfig/zeroconfig 169.254/16, which is also a private pool, but one used for non-DHCP networks.
So don't assume that just because your IP isn't 192.168.*.*, you must have a public IP.
And don't discount ISP shenanigans, either. Always verify that the IP you're seeing on your router's WAN iface matches the IP the public Internet sees when talking to your network.
Hamachi used to use 5/8 for some reason, despite the fact that it's actually publicly-routable (it so happens to be assigned to the British DoD, if memory serves, so it's highly unlikely to be used by private users - but the route to it should never be anything other than *). They probably did it to avoid running afoul of any addressing scheme they could ever find in the wild, but still.
oblique ice
Why the heck would Hamachi use the British Department of Defenses channel?
blazing halo
Probably because the chances of anyone (using Hamachi) needing to reach it were next to nonexistent. And if you did need to, you could just shut Hamachi down.
oblique ice
Might be a bigger question as to why the British Department of Defense is using a public router or whatever you're saying.
blazing halo
They needed an IP pool that wasn't any of the private pools (because if they used one of those, they would inevitably run into IP conflicts somewhere).
blazing halo
Might be a bigger question as to why the British Department of Defense is using ...
Hey, the British DoD still needs to be on the Internet. ;P
They don't need to host any services (though they probably do), but they still need to have Internet access.
And government agencies got priority assignments, obviously.
I'm sure they're using 1987's HDDs for whatever is so double-secret that it can't be accessible by anything.
:D
(or just good ol' paper)
vagrant delta
You cannot. You can only delete the server configuration file and reconfigure fr...
witch config file as i am on docker 🙂
blazing halo
witch config file as i am on docker 🙂
I don't know about Docker - you'll have to take it up with Docker, or whoever made the image for SFDS.
As for the file name, it's ServerSettings.{port} where {port} is the Query port assigned to your server (by default, 15777). This file will be located in ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames.
The file is a binary file, and the passwords are both held as some sort of encrypted string or hash, so it's not possible to recover them.
Deleting this file will remove at least the following settings:
- server name
- autoload session name
- server admin password
- server user password
- server encryption key
You will need to claim the server again.
- Note that this is NOT the ServerSettings.ini file, which is located elsewhere. -
Thank you very much for the help it worked 🙂
steep bluff
@blazing halo can confirm it is not saving before restart
blazing halo
Interesting... Last time I looked at the restart, it did... but maybe it was just coincidental timing. If it's set to auto-save every 5 minutes, it likely will auto-save before the shutdown (which happens on a multiple of 5 minutes (24 hours is 288 x 5 minutes exactly)).