#math-and-meta | Satisfactory | Page 419

arctic nova Jul 13, 2019, 3:50 PM

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this is how it'd look

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shrewd yacht Jul 13, 2019, 4:54 PM

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nuts!

arctic nova Jul 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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looks more sexy from above 😛

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uncut pine Jul 13, 2019, 6:32 PM

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@wind spade can i set in your calculator in the production line every mine or is the maschine mine for all mines only?

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so i would have a pure mine and a normale mine

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 6:34 PM

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if you want to produce stuff from given set of resources (e.g. pure + normal), you can use the consumption tool

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otherwise it's limited to one tier

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(purity)

uncut pine Jul 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

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yea ok i try it thx^^

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so right?^^

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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yeah, that's right. And if you want to produce by the miners, you can just put e.g. 60 iron ore to input and that's a normal purity mk1 miner

uncut pine Jul 13, 2019, 6:49 PM

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yea ok ^^

viscid raft Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@arctic nova blessed, thanks

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also, is that 5x1 foundations, centered on a 5x5 core, in a spiral?

arctic nova Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

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trying to help ya kinda escalated a little bit^^

viscid raft Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

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well that is the goal, escalate these trains 😂

arctic nova Jul 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

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well, I decided to start from a central foundation, then you add another 3 foundations to each side

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that's the inner spiral

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then every outer foundation will add another rail, so the min base would be 7x7 for single-lane, 9x9 for dual, and so on up to 15x15 for 5 lanes

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btw. just made also a little reddit/imgur post about it

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https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/ccrhcp/20_trainlines_quadruple_corkscrew_escalator/

r/SatisfactoryGame - 20 train-lines quadruple corkscrew escalator

1 vote and 2 comments so far on Reddit

fierce ruin Jul 13, 2019, 8:28 PM

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what's the best miner to boiler ratio for coal?

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 8:28 PM

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that sounds like a factorio question 🤔

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anyway, it depends on your power consumption, miner mk and node purity

fierce ruin Jul 13, 2019, 9:00 PM

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right

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in the calculator, it does not give me an option for energy

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am I missing something?

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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energy?

fierce ruin Jul 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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power, sorry

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I found a calculator 😃

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 9:11 PM

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if you link/screenshot it and tell me what you want to do with it, I may be able to help

gray rock Jul 13, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Did this to get to buaxite

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I just

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fluid ether Jul 13, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I wonder if leaving the train at the bottom and just having an itemlift going down would not have been the more efficient method.

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unless the bauxite nodes are further away of course

gray rock Jul 13, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Meh, less fun

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fun to watch the train go up and down it

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let alone make it

sullen cloud Jul 13, 2019, 10:19 PM

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there is a natural ramp very close

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just through the tunnel in the mountain, turn right at the lake. On the right side cut some plants, up the smaller tunnel

formal gazelle Jul 13, 2019, 11:22 PM

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yo im an idiot, wanting to split a 120 belt into 2 45s and 1 30, can anyone help with the right splitter/merger config?

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 11:24 PM

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just use manifolds 😄

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in your case, 1 splitter

formal gazelle Jul 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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ill give you the rundown what i want to do, have 2 foundries working 100% and one at 66.6'7'% rather than to just have each filled to 40 ppm than 45 that they needed? wouldnt your solution just provide the 40?

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 11:29 PM

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then underclock all the foundries

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or underclock one of them

formal gazelle Jul 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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missing some of the point of the initial question, being, i want to load balance this with belts

wind spade Jul 13, 2019, 11:31 PM

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if you underclock one foundry to 67%, it will balance itself out with the 1 splitter setup

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yes, you can do it with belts, but that's just tedious process and not really worth it

formal gazelle Jul 13, 2019, 11:35 PM

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ok thanks, sorry if i seemed rude at all!

orchid panther Jul 13, 2019, 11:54 PM

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what the better computer recipie? quick wire or Crystal?

fierce ruin Jul 13, 2019, 11:59 PM

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crystal

orchid panther Jul 14, 2019, 12:05 AM

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@formal gazelle# 2878 https://satisgraphtory.com/#MTVtbHBq

satisgraphtory.com

Satisgraphtory | Factory Building Graph Simulation

Feature-rich factory optimization and calculation tool for Satisfactory game

formal gazelle Jul 14, 2019, 12:33 AM

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@orchid panther thanks

orchid panther Jul 14, 2019, 12:33 AM

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np

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thats easy math when you get things like 7.534 thats a pain

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 2:35 AM

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so mixed belts are now a thing with a tiny mod

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(made a video how it works) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtnz8U2KLvs&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

Mordus

Satisfactory - Smart Splitters finally working as intended (tiny m...

I just found the mod and tested it, I am not part of the development (besides my suggestion I'd guess) Link to the mod: https://ficsit.app/mod/66iHiLG6NusA2a...

▶ Play video

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long story short: https://ficsit.app/mod/66iHiLG6NusA2a provides an item counter, that is also able to destroy overflow items

[PXA] Item Tracker - SMR

Adds 2 simple machines, one deletes and counts items the other just counts as they pass though, fully save game compatible.

fringe citrus Jul 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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i thought mixed belts were always a thing?

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well not always*

feral dew Jul 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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some people did them, but spent a lot of time trying to fix its inherent issues

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belts don't seem to be calculated item by item when you're away, so when the belt is out of rendering distance, there's a chance of the mixed belt coming out of sync

fringe citrus Jul 14, 2019, 7:30 AM

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on smart splitters. if the belt left and right are full, but the item is supposed to go left, will it just pass through instead?

feral dew Jul 14, 2019, 7:30 AM

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I don't know that contents of that mod, but a regular smart splitter would just stall at that point

fringe citrus Jul 14, 2019, 7:31 AM

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yeah i dont mean with the mod. just wanted to know vanilla

feral dew Jul 14, 2019, 7:31 AM

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yep, that's why so many people have complaints on them

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a pass through line isn't an option

fringe citrus Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 AM

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would be good to be able to build if/then relays

stable siren Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 AM

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i thought the issue with smart and programmable splitters was the lack of need for them

fringe citrus Jul 14, 2019, 7:33 AM

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just helps keep down the clutter. just need to be able to do a bit more with them

crude girder Jul 14, 2019, 9:06 AM

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The issue with them is that they aren't smart at all

empty hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 9:07 AM

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they are very smard

crude girder Jul 14, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Smort

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 10:18 AM

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yeah, the issue with smart / programmable splitters is, that they are not really needed anywhere

languid estuary Jul 14, 2019, 11:01 AM

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@wind spade , yes I agree.

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So far I have unlocked all the available items and just kept items in separate belts and containers. I dont see the point of these smart/programmable splitters

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Now if the splitters were cabable of being used as a load balancer on its own, then it would be more useful. Like you could specify hoe much items per minute go from each outloet of the splitter

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 11:20 AM

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unfortunatelly, splitters with specified ipm won't work

patent bough Jul 14, 2019, 11:41 AM

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i only use smart/programmable splitters for products requiring manual input

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so i can dump all my leaves/shrooms/etc in a single storage unit and have them auto-filter to the right places

languid estuary Jul 14, 2019, 12:32 PM

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@wind spade at least prorgrammable splitter should be able to work with specified ipm. I mean they are suppose to be programmable! So let us program the ipm 😃

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 12:34 PM

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@languid estuary the result ipm will be less than the number you put in

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so it won't be really useful

crude girder Jul 14, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Splitters need a complete overhaul tbh

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 12:40 PM

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what would you make differently?

crude girder Jul 14, 2019, 12:41 PM

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accurate ipm splitting
Actual smart splitting (same item different direction)
Ipm splitting based on incoming belt

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Priority splitting/merging too

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 12:46 PM

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ipm splitting is impossible

modest linden Jul 14, 2019, 1:29 PM

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what about making a governor? Like not a splitter, but something that just limits the output to something, it could even be like a storage, with a setable output rate, maybe with just a couple stacks storage.

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this way you can set the input rate on a manifold leg

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and why is ipm splitting impossible?

empty hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 1:35 PM

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cause of tickrate

modest linden Jul 14, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Would this same thing stop you from making a storage container where you can set the output rate?

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 1:41 PM

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that would be sufficient

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but we don't need exact rates really in sf

modest linden Jul 14, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Yeah, just getting it MUCH closer to what we want will help so much.

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It will smooth out fill times etc

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I oftentimes have 3 or more legs off of a resource heading to manifolds, then I end up making them open ended, and merging the outputs and recycling etc. This would allow me to make closed manifold way more often.

fierce ruin Jul 14, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Why does my train say unable to reach next stop?

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@modest linden you can manifold the manifolds and then every manifold is a closed one thinking_helmet

uncut pine Jul 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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2 questions:

is the alts screws for ironbars good?
How i can build an efficient heavy modular fabric?
thx^^

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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screws are pretty much useless with alternate recipes, so I don't recommend getting that

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find an online tool and put the numbers in it

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 3:20 PM

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alts screws, well, better than none. But not anything better. You could hear a lot of good things about alt screws from new players though.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I mean the recipe may be good in early game for reinforced iron plates, but I would rather get stitched iron plates alternate and save resources in addition to power and space

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Iron wire is good, stitch plate is better, alt steel ingot is the best.

shadow kite Jul 14, 2019, 4:34 PM

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@languid estuary it's mostly just for inventory sorting, i.e. you can throw leaves, mycelia and wood into a smart/programmable splitter and send it through the correct path to make fabric, coal or biomass

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also: hello discord's "random scroll"

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 PM

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My all time favorite Alt recipe is Alt rotors , then stators and rotors can go on the same manifold. Followed by Either reinforced Iron Plate alt.

shrewd topaz Jul 14, 2019, 5:31 PM

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🤔

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 5:31 PM

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honestly the screw one is shit because it has screws in it

shrewd topaz Jul 14, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Screws = bad

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Meh, So long as the screws stay under 270 per line I can make my factory and optomise it later.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 5:41 PM

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it's not about screws, it's about every alt that ditches screws is also better than any alt with screws or normal recipe

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I'm not using a bunch of the recipes that ditch screws though, it's not as important as being able to get the factory Set up so I CAN go adventuring.

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I understand stitched plate is better late game , but when I'm only working with 7 hard drives, either alt is not that much better or worse, just having either is super necesary.

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honestly I Don't even have iron ingot on my Absolute Must-have list.

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It's on the tier RIGHT below it.

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It's a pain (for me, just for me, not the game's fault) to go and look for resources, esp. hard drives as they aren't a ore scanner item. So I try to optimize each hard drive I find. I'm not saying alt normal r.i.p. is better, just that It has it's use. I have to run 30 wire machines because I can't knock off 1 more important recipe for iron ingots AND iron wire. It can be nice not to add to that list.

shadow kite Jul 14, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@wind spade the steel screw recipe is good. if there was an actual demand for screws. I'm currently debating with myself about stitched iron plates, or alt reinforced iron plates using steel screws

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@mint lagoon iron ingot isn't that important

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and if you use first two HDDs for iron wire and SIP, you will have much easier game

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@shadow kite see ^^, also yeah, it could be good, but you don't need screws, so it's bad

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 5:56 PM

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My first two are alt rotor and (some plate version typically alt normal)

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then enriched coal and enriched steel ingot)

shadow kite Jul 14, 2019, 5:57 PM

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probably the "3x reinforced iron plate"

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@shadow kite I meant I'm trying out stitched this game. Typically I take the screws one, the one that just changes the ratio of input, not changes the input.

shadow kite Jul 14, 2019, 5:58 PM

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ah

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:02 PM

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@wind spade Iron wire is not important at all compared to alt rotor , imo. It completely changes the layout of my base, and makes it a ton more difficult to make motors at all.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:03 PM

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@mint lagoon I said "first two HDDs"

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so even before you even get to rotors

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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I don't use HDD before i get to rotors.... I don't use MACHINES before i get to rotors... not worth the setup.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:05 PM

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ah you are one of the handcrafting simulator guys

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:06 PM

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More like, no real point in setting up stuff when I'm just going to move once I get to coal.

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I don't like constantly mowing the lawn for bio fuel.

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I'm just starting to use 3 machines at my starter base So I don't have to constantly go up and down sky base.

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Coal/perm base is 2km up and .8k east from starter base.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:09 PM

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I just set up some production of plates, rods and wire with a decent amount of biomass while I go hunt for 2 HDDs as early as I can

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when I come back, I have a good amount of stuff to progress futher

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:10 PM

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i die to hogs. there aren't safe hdd nearby starter base.

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:10 PM

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I broke my brain a long time ago :

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Can I use this to make a 1 to 16 ?
https://satisfactory.tash.fyi/11

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:11 PM

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you can also use a manifold 😉

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:11 PM

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heck it takes me 3 hours to get outta tier 0 due to hogs.

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:11 PM

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And "Hey everyone" btw 😛

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 PM

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yes, you can use it, but it's better to just put 16 splitters on one belt

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and faster to build 😄

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Yep but it's not working very well I think ?

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:12 PM

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it will, eventually

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after a few minutes

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I've memorised location and enemy lists on all ores/ hdd drops I can get to..

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:14 PM

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first machine fills up and clogs the belt, so more stuff goes to the second machine, etc

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Yeah thx

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Ima try 1 to 16 and if it's too diificult I'll make it by the dirty way x)

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thank you 😃

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:15 PM

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it's not dirty

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Also it can be better to do two rows of 8 instead of 1 row of 16 for space.

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Yeah but it's a better optimization, that's what I mean.
I think I will make 2 floors so yeah, two rows of 8

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@dull shard it's faster to build, easier to expand, smaller footprint and just generally the better way

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but it's your choice obviously 😄

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just remember, this isn't factorio, you don't need balancers here

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Mmmhn I still use balancers to force certain lines to be fuller than others , but Not often and I may stop in future.

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But I always only do manifolds.

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I didn't play factorio :p
Satisfactory comes when every lines are moving

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It means that everything is perfect x)

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@dull shard well we don't have infinite storage, your setup will stop anyway

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sooner or later

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@mint lagoon why do you need to have one line more filled than other?

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I define perfect as when every TOP line is moving. HMF for instance, if it's not 100% efficient, something is either wrong or the storage is full..

dull shard Jul 14, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I don't have anything perfect in my factory so let me dream about infinite storage @wind spade 😄

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:25 PM

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@wind spade Before I get to trains, I need way more oil for fuel than I do for rubber, So rubber line is smaller output than fuel

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It's just something I do so I know which line to prioritise . I'll probably grow out of it soon enough.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:27 PM

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well that should be defined by number of machines

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so if you need more fuel than rubber, then you should craft more fuel than rubber

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I do, Non-exact Example: I need 480/ min for Fuel, and only 120 for rubber, I will put a mk2 belt at the start of my storage, before I switch fo Mk4 so I don't run too much to rubber. Sometimes its just so I identify a Smaller line.

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LIke I said, I'll probably stop using this trick this run.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:40 PM

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well the issue is then in underproduction, not belt balancing 😄

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but yeah, I get what you mean

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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underproduction Even with Overclocking 250% being unfixable without exploring means I fix with belt balancing.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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overclocking

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Hate exploring, If there was peaceful mode, wouldn't hate it so much.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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there is some afaik

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Of course I overclock my raw resources, its not enough sometimes.

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afaik?

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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As far as I know

fierce ruin Jul 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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There is but not working atm

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Needs to be updated

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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are we talking mods here? I'm not sure with all the updates that mods can keep up.

fierce ruin Jul 14, 2019, 6:46 PM

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This hasn't been updated since April so it's up to the modder

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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An official peaceful mode would be nice. Combat is too bland to be interesting, and mostly interrupts exploration and work on factories.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

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tbf I find it interesting

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I find combat so difficult I build my base 2km in the air.

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I avoid exploration at all costs.

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I would trade all purple powerslugs for an ingame hdd ore scanner upgrade.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:56 PM

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idk if they buffed enemies or what happened, but when I last played the game before April update, combat was super ez

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 6:56 PM

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The rebar gun and xenobasher have gone a fair way towards trivializing most of the threats I run into. And as long as I pick up healing plants along the way, taking a few hits here and there isn't an issue.

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:57 PM

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heck i'd trade half my hdds for a hdd scanner.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I guess interactive maps are out of option for ya

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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well, spiders are easy to avoid, when you strafe then they can't hit you. flies are super annoying, they try not to attack you when facing you, but try to attack from an different angle. fluffly hogs are somewhat easy. The fire spitters are annoying due to rng.

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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i take 3-4 health fighting a hog with the basher (not pissant zapper)

modern glen Jul 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yeah they aren’t so accurate... last time i checked for uranium and it was in the middle of a waterfall...

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Can't strafe.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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jump just before they are near you

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they run under you

warm root Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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so i wonder: i like to build long lines of splitters infront of my machines and just branch off a main line to each machine
would using t1 conveyors for the branching affect performance (if the main line is t5)

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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95% fights without them touching me

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Hmm? You can strafe in this game, unless I'm fundamentally misunderstanding the term.

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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If you don't like changes on the base throughout the game, perhaps you are playing wrong. The base is meant to changes a few time as you progress.

warm root Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i know there was some math related to splitters not being super effective if you used different tier belts, so i'm curious if i'm doing something wrong

modern glen Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Guys jump on something and use the rifle

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I'm trying to learn the timing and dying in the process,

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I have starter base, bootstrap, them mass production

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@warm root if you are using the mk1 belts for the branches, you just need to keep the branches under ~50 ipm

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then you are fine

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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As far as I've seen, as long as the output belts can handle the total capacity of the input belt, you'll be fine.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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strafing is walking sideways (a & d) @fallow lily

warm root Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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ye, was just making sure that i didnt hit some magical 'issue' where it would decrease performance of my mk5 belt because of delays :p

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@fallow lily I do not possess the leet skills required to strafe.

warm root Jul 14, 2019, 7:00 PM

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thx greeny

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Nor time my jumps.

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nor aim a gun.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@warm root no, the issue is a bit different. I'll link my answer on reddit to some guy, where I explain the issue

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Lol

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I suck at combat.

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:02 PM

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There are tutorial on how to kill hogs or spitters in game, search ytube.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:02 PM

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@warm root https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/ccmt7f/how_do_i_split_780_miner_mk2_at_250_into_26/etqqo31/

r/SatisfactoryGame - How do I split 780 (miner Mk2 at 250%) into 2...

6 votes and 21 comments so far on Reddit

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I've read / Watched enough to TEACH anyone else to , I've tried a long time (100 ish hours across all my saves ) I just can't learn.

warm root Jul 14, 2019, 7:03 PM

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thx greeny, ye i knew it was something like that: was just afraid that the same 'logic' problem would also occur on the mk5 belt i was using :p

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I'm a base builder, not an explorer.

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Btw, monsters do respawn if you leave the area for some time and there was no built structures in it.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:04 PM

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they are no monsters! 🙁

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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it is called wildilfe

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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we might be thinking_helmet

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Doesn't help I can't play with two hands (more than push shift/ctrl)

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Ok, the locals.

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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the monster dropped with a landing pot

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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fistbump @fluid ether ^^

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Hostile natives?

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Playing multiplayers with someone pro might helps

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Let him handle the combats

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I think most death in mp result from other players

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:08 PM

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@fluid ether why?

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:08 PM

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nah, as satisfactory player watch shroud for 100 hours and analyzing the combat patterns to improve on hog-killing efficiency might be 200IQ

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:08 PM

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MP is a little to buggy and my pc a little to old to host MP.

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I never got killed by a single wild creature. However... being afk is dangerous

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:08 PM

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@fluid ether cats. Kill you.

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:09 PM

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wait, this is math and meta. we are offtopic 😱

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:09 PM

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my worst enemy in satisfactory is actually gravity :>

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:09 PM

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combat tactics isn't meta?

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Being flung away in mid air when train turns. Reload save.

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Since i build sky base to avoid combat, typically gravity kills me the most.

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:10 PM

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jetpacks save lifes.

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:11 PM

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^^ truth

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Actually bladerunner do prevent player from dying. From any height.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:12 PM

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sometimes you run out of fuel. I recently noticed that carrying a second jetpack in the inventory and switching it mid-falling can save your ass

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:12 PM

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they do , but i wouldn't survive the trip back to the stairs....

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Fall damage is something I'd happily turn off, to the point where I'd do so over turning on a peaceful mode.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@glacial hemlock not when you play with 3 health bars always

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ain't got no time for berry and alien-organ explorations 😄

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:13 PM

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^^ thats why I keep my doggo, they explore so I don't have to.

glacial hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Haha

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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fml. I probably played 600 hours of satis and never tamed a doggo

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I guess you convinced me to finally do so

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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doggos are an infinite source of purple power slugs.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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I don't care too much for slugs, all my miners and oil pumps are oc'd and that's all I want

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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and all berries nuts mycelia.

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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but the auto-health to finally start staying at full health again sounds great

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what kinda bugs me is that I then have to care for nuclear waste I guess?

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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or autoload?

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save more often.

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i could show you how to build a cage to check if the doggo has nuclear waste without getting hurt if you like?

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:24 PM

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btw @wind spade you said smart splitters/programmable splitters are not needed anywhere. Have you thought about, that with the now functioning smart splitters you now can use cargo stations for more then one material?

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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yes. You can use two platforms each for one material and evade all the issues that comes from mixed belts

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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It'll be tricky due plan the train timings, but it should work

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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the problem with that will always be, what happens if the system runs full? one line will clog the rest

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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@fluid ether not anymore, there is a mod than can kill overflows

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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How does it do that?

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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mod isn't vanilla game

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:26 PM

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yeah, I am talking vanilla

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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(I'm aware that mods aren't the base game, but I'm still curious about how that mod works.)

little anchor Jul 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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It only kills overflows by deleting the backed up items.

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Ew.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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also, why would you go through all the trouble of setting up smart splitters, mod, deleting items (why delete items?) and the correct ratios and timings, when you can just use two platforms and two cars?

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:27 PM

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then I shut my mouth 😃 anyways I do hope that we either get something dealing with overflow OR some smart if-then-programmable connections for vanilla at some point

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cause main train hubs would be super large

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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for smart splitters to be usable, the rest of the game would have to become smarter, too

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thing is, I do use smart splitters for one thing

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truck stations

little anchor Jul 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Plenty of space on the map to have large stations and multiple rail networks, so space is not an issue

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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can't have them clog each other by getting a different load by accident

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@arctic nova we have pretty much infinite space. Why do you care about size?

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I wouldn't want to place my trains above terrain level, while also trying to make it don't look like spaghetti

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and that on a larger base is an issue.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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how is +1 platform large enough to make this difference

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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well, for example you would plan on get every raw resource processed at full rates in an centralized hub (only in theroy ofc!), you would need to get a station for every equivalent of 2 pure nodes

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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also, multiple trains

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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at some point mutible trains for one station will work

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just for now we have to deal with how it is

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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that won't help my splitter idea I just realize tho

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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and also, not stations, but just platforms

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

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yeah I mean cargo platforms ofc

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I have a set up of 3 stations with 8 or 10 cargo plattforms each..it was not that hard

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:41 PM

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just calced it quickly, for example if you would make a rail based processing of all raw materials in one central hub, you would need to have 116 different cargo platforms in the central station. But I actually don't see any solution to this, besides more inputs and outputs placed on cargo platforms. Would be kinda cool if you could switch the 2/2 in- and output based on the setting if the station is a loading or unloading station

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:42 PM

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116 cargo platforms? that's totally fine. Remember we can build in 3D

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I know, I always say the skybox is the limit :>

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:42 PM

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if you make the classic 5 long trains and make 6 rows of stations, you only need 4 floors of train stations

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I doubt my pc could handle 100% node usage anyway

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 7:43 PM

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that's not much, it's actually super small

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:43 PM

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you're right, the more and more I think about it

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anyways, what's kryo saying, this is also the main reason why I wouldn't try that

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instead of kryosteel gimme a cryofreeze in order to get me closer to a pc that would be able to handle the load that this base would take^^

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btw. kryo, do you know battletech?

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Heared the name, never saw a picture of it I believe

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and kryosteele is actively cooling by itself 😛

arctic nova Jul 14, 2019, 7:46 PM

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nah it's just the story behind mech warrior and the lore uses a lot of kryosteel 😉

fluid ether Jul 14, 2019, 7:50 PM

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hmm, interesting.

orchid panther Jul 14, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Calculator for # of Ref/ Fuel gennies from1 Nor/pure node?

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 8:39 PM

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https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/ you want consumption tab.

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

willow veldt Jul 14, 2019, 8:59 PM

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So, did anyone figure out the best recipe choices for oil related products? Currently doing a rubber focused setup with alt recipes all over the place but got curious

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:00 PM

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anything that saves oil is good

fallow lily Jul 14, 2019, 9:02 PM

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From that same calculator: https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/alternate-recipes

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

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Plug in the products you want to make, and have it analyze the alternate recipes you have.

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 9:16 PM

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At what point would you do a double manifold for assembler level?

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I need 8 Assemblers doing Compact coal for steel and am wondering if I should do 2 rows of 4 versus 1 row of 8. I'm leaning towards not doing a double manifold and just doing a single row.

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:22 PM

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that's just a matter of personal preference I would say

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double vs single manifold gives no real advantage

mint lagoon Jul 14, 2019, 9:23 PM

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ok thanks, I think my area, fighting with the snakeleg trees, means long and skinny will fit better.

fierce ruin Jul 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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wats a double manifold

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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So, based on my math, 3 uranium nodes feeds 1800 uranium/minute, at maximum draw.
Should feed 32 manufacturers at 250% making 1400 alternate uranium cells/minute
Feeding 56 manufacturers at 250% making 84 alternate fuel rods/minute, which should feed 210 nuclear power plants clocked to 250%.
(stock clocking consumes less power, but over clocking means less machines which means more sanity on logistics, for me, your mileage may vary)

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:36 PM

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@fierce ruin manifold, where machines are on both sides of splitters

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every day, another person comes in and calculates max nuclear power...

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:36 PM

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its so much fun

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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yes, max nuclear is 84 rods/min, 1050 GW and no, you don't need that, you can just use one node and you'll have enough power for anything you want to build

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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sounds like quitter talk

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1 teraWatt sounds like the best time

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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what

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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whatever comes post nuclear will likely consume all the power ever

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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you will never ever use more than 300 GW on production lines in this patch

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I doubt that

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:39 PM

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this patch

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I highly doubt that we will have something consume 1350 GW

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 9:39 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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imma build it all

shrewd yacht Jul 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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have fun with the slideshow

shrewd topaz Jul 14, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Hadron Colliders and crap

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Each one uses like 400MW from cheaty stuffs. May need a lot of those

viscid raft Jul 14, 2019, 11:45 PM

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FR?

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neato

dim thicket Jul 14, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Definitely not lol

brave harbor Jul 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Alright other math geniouses I need assistance
I have 10 inputs each running at 10 items a minute
I need 1 output at 20 items a minute (or more)
and 5 more outputs at 16 items a minute (or more)
how do I do it????

wind spade Jul 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

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merge all into single belt and then just row of splitters

brave harbor Jul 15, 2019, 12:00 AM

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but one out put is more

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 12:00 AM

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it will balance itself out

brave harbor Jul 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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but its perfect...... 16*5=80 + 20 =100

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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yeah

brave harbor Jul 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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10*10 = 100

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oh wait

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yeah I guess so

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thanks anyway!

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

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like this

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ignore the numbers

📎 0725982b-1990-4564-9fbd-c95323fe5702.png

brave harbor Jul 15, 2019, 12:05 AM

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yeah

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:07 AM

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@wind spade What base layouts do you think are the best for producing pretty much everything? (computers, heavy modular frames, etc)

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:08 AM

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efficient? 🤔

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Yeah

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:09 AM

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that was my answer

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Oh ok

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:10 AM

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i mean, you just have to figure out how many items per minute you want and that number into a tool

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what do you expect me to tell you

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Idk, lets say a recommended layout for Tier 5-6?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:10 AM

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depends on what you want to produce lol

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Can I give a list of what I want to create?

orchid panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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just to trigger Greeny because i didn't use a manifold 😛

📎 SPOILER_Screenshot20190714-17232200000.png

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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you can put that into a tool lol

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instead of telling it to me

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:12 AM

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k

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Which one do you recommend?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:12 AM

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choose one that suits you the best

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try all or just one, idk. Every person has different needs

orchid panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:13 AM

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u ise Greeny tool and https://rblom9517.pythonanywhere.com/satisfactory (this one is not fully up to date)

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:13 AM

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k

mint lagoon Jul 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I think @winter panther is asking How many Things ( motors, HMF,) to make . For tier 5-6 I generally go with 1 HMF machine 2 Motor machines and 1 Super PC machine with all the sub layers needed to supply them at 100%.

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And extra Steel beams/encased steel beams.

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:29 AM

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I get that, but why is he asking me?

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first, that is a decision he has to make himself, based on what goal is he targetting

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second, my best save has 30 hours and not even automated computers, and I have played it in February. So I don't really know what are current requirements for stuff

mint lagoon Jul 15, 2019, 2:33 AM

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I'm Not Sure he was asking you in Specific , Just the discord...

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You just answered cuz your the tool god.

winter panther Jul 15, 2019, 2:34 AM

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I just heard that you were one of the best guys to talk to about it

mint lagoon Jul 15, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Ooops Just saw the tag.

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@mint lagoon he mentioned me 🤔

mint lagoon Jul 15, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@winter panther , Greeny/ greeny's tool is one of the best, but you need to have a goal, like the one I said, to use it, he's/its not the best for designing bases without a goal

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@wind spade hence my OOPS!

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:36 AM

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oh well, discord can't scroll

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didn't see your message

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well, I can design your base for pple, but without the goal, it's kinda "pick any number and design for that number"

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which isn't really what you want

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I could've give him the design for 125 SC per minute

mint lagoon Jul 15, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Meh, I didn't see the tag at first, and I meant something like: listing goals is not a part of the tool, but fufilling them is.

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 4:21 AM

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@orchid panther intense triggered. You have not even automated the input.

orchid panther Jul 15, 2019, 4:22 AM

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i was switching from temp automation to a final set up

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@glacial hemlock

📎 Screenshot20190714-17591900000.png

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 4:23 AM

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You sure made yourself a lot of space. Which is not a bad thing.

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I typically make 1R+3FG setup and make 8 groups of them clustered at 1 node

orchid panther Jul 15, 2019, 4:25 AM

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o wait i have a finished pic

high crater Jul 15, 2019, 7:44 AM

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math

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Meth.

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Hello! Are load balancer essential when your input is "limited"?
Let's say I have input of 600 iron/min, and 12 Machines eating 50/min. A "fill first" strategy would let the machines in the end of the line with no input?

wheat nymph Jul 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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nah

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screw balancing

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by which I don't mean balance screws

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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You sure? I'm trying to simulate with sheets

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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@ornate flint

📎 f8e828b9-f8f5-4ba5-9c5b-60f8e666ec1c.png

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efficient and fill times for the manifold you talked about

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basically, it's 100% efficient in 10 minutes, first 8 machines are efficient in 4 minutes

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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@wind spade you're the best, thanks!

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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you can calculate your setups here https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/machine-fill

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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I'm building my very first huge factory after screwing up with two spaghetti ones and I'm load balancing everything, but I'm kind of getting crazy about the whole thing...

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Thanks for the link!! One more question: does the belt speed affect somehow?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

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well, you need at least the belt speed to carry 600 items (in that case)

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the tool assumes all belts are infinitely fast

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e.g. no belt limitation

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

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And also: if there are multiple kind of machines with multiple consumption rate?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

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as long as you have enough input, it will eventually balance itself out

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however the tool isn't that advanced that it could calculate with different machines 😦

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but mostly the times we are talking about are around 10s of minutes

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with most of the machines being 100% efficient in first 10-15 minutes

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unless you have big stack sizes and small consumption and input

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for example nuclear plants will work 100% efficient in X hours 😄

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if manifold is used for them

ornate flint Jul 15, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Ok thank you very much!!

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Just letting you know I used your tool to prepare the plan of my factory

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😁😁👍

astral mirage Jul 15, 2019, 1:22 PM

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How do you guys like to set up your filters for train depots? I am planning on scaling up my off-site production and making a four-train mega Depot but I don't know how I am going to manage the logistics

fluid ether Jul 15, 2019, 1:49 PM

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not filtering anything tbh. Just having direct connections from cargo plattform to where it is needed

sage current Jul 15, 2019, 2:03 PM

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@wind spade I use the calculater a lot, I noticed that if I use the alt Iron Ignot Alloy, one that I like a lot, the calculator still uses the regular smelter or am I doing something wrong?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:04 PM

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@sage current can you share your setup or printscreen it?

sage current Jul 15, 2019, 2:04 PM

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on it

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nvm... had to refresh.... 😒

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#duh

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

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you shouldn't need to refresh tho

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it should recalculate on change

modest linden Jul 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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ok, so I have something like this:
https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/calculator?preview=CbgIs6Im1i

and with screws I am having to do a bucnh of figuring out on the manifold which ends up looking something like:

5 screw            450
5 screw            450
5 screw            450  (split 1/2 to fit)
3 screw            270

Plate production 
Leg 1 (5 screw + 3 screw)
Start            450
1                -120
2                -120
3                -120        90
merge            +270        360
4                -120
5                -120
6                -120        0                

Leg 2 (2x 5 screw)
Start            450
1                -120
2                -120
3                -120        90
merge            +450        450
4                -120
5                -120
6                -120        
7q                -90            0```

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

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ie to figure out manifold saturation etc

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what would be nice is to have some sort of way for it to calculate out manifolds on the production page, maybe a different view that shows how to split up the production with a max belt select

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 4:21 PM

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look, it's screws!

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 5:50 PM

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@modest linden There's a few problems with that

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 5:50 PM

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oh god here we go

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 5:50 PM

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the most blaring one is the T4 belts, which happen to be 480 ppm, rather than 450, but that's really vary unimportant

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The second one is the fact that machines that output multiple items in a single cycle can't be merged to the capacity of a belt. In other words, you can never fit 450 screws onto a single belt. I'm not sure how that applies to 480's, since I don't know the screw production off the top of my head, but usually the idea is to keep screws in belts of much higher capacity than their sum.

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There's ways to mitigate the effects of that merging problem with proper spacing, but it will never fully vanish

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then, in either way, the resultant belt is going to be a really staggered thing, with screws in the very opposite of orderly lines, that can mess with splitters, so if you divide by half, make sure you're prepared for some machines to have small losses in efficiency, but it shouldn't be too great.

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@feral dew 90/180 screws per min (depends if you use the alt or not)

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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if you ignore the 4 1x5 balancers stacked on top of each other for a minute

📎 lines.png

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That input line happens to be a 450 belt from the early access weekend

calm creek Jul 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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TOMAYO

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idk

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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it clearly does not have anything similar to 450 ppm on it

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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that may be also the reason why he uses 450 instead of 480

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also get out

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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perhaps

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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this screenshot is so painful in many ways

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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don't worry, it was from a past time

river burrow Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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my eyes omg

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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now, this is how I do my screws

📎 manifodsl.png

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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clipping belts
belting screws
screws in general
balancers
no beryl nut or berry in hand

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:01 PM

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instead of balancing

river burrow Jul 15, 2019, 6:01 PM

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why are you doing screw @feral dew , screw screws !

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:01 PM

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because screws are a perfectly reasonable way to get reinforced iron plates

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:01 PM

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laughs in stitched iron plates

river burrow Jul 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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😫

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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0_damage_runescape

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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1_damage_runescape 0_damage_runescape

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 6:03 PM

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@feral dew is obviously trolling

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Who uses screws ?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:03 PM

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tbh I'm almost sure he isn't

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:03 PM

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thinking_helmet

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you can think whatever's most convenient to yourself

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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👍

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Whenever something expands (wire, screws, qw) i use direct feed to next machine. Don't even thought using manifold

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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injected manifold here, since the ratios are usually so bothersome, also I'm lazy

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Stitch plates, is a good example, it is 1👍1

feral dew Jul 15, 2019, 6:07 PM

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it can be solved with underclocking, but I'd rather just make very long buildings

glacial hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 6:07 PM

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1: 1: 1

frigid sluice Jul 15, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Talking about screws: IIRC I took steel screws alt instead of stitched plate

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:44 PM

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SIP is still better tho

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 6:49 PM

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SIP?

empty hemlock Jul 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Stiched Iron Plate

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I just scrolled up and I am in so much pain right now

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 6:56 PM

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6plates and 30 copperwires are must have Recipe?:o

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For stiched iron plates

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:57 PM

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it's just way better than standard RIPs

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Okay sir

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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with iron wire and SIPs, you save ~50% of raw resources

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Uiii niceee

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I take that recipe :D

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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and with iron ingot alt, you save even more, up to 66%

fluid ether Jul 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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also, when you get iron wire, not having to manage copper on top of iron is nice

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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these are raw material costs for 1 reinforced iron plate

📎 ae9ca564-84a9-47cc-8436-1452d9600481.png

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 7:04 PM

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So i can Make 60 SIP pm With 2 normal mk2 200% right?

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But With iron wire and iron ingot are better because i save a lot of raw ressources?

fluid ether Jul 15, 2019, 7:09 PM

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the alt recipes use less baseresources to produce more. so yes

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for example with iron ore you would get one ironbars per ore. the alt will give for one iron ore and one copper ore 3 iron bars.

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Soooo...with alts i can Make 3250 ironwire and 360 iron plates So i can produce 180 SIPs right?

fluid ether Jul 15, 2019, 7:16 PM

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sounds about right

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although I do not know what you are basing the first two numbers of

uncut pine Jul 15, 2019, 7:19 PM

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This are one mk2 normal 200% ironwire with the alts iron wire and iron Ingo.
The other one mk2 normal 200% iron Plates with the alts iron ingot

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Or Take anything wrong?

dark lotus Jul 15, 2019, 9:09 PM

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help with numbers plz

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Nuclear Fuel Rod
125 uranium cells = 13 machines, (585 uranium ore), ({120 concrete = [360 limestone] on 8 machines})

15 encased industrial beam = 4 machines, (80 concrete [270 limestone] on 6 machines), {{total of 630 limestone}}, 64 steel beams = 7 machines (210 steel ingot = 7 foundrys, 315 iron ore, 315 coal)

25 electomagnetic control rods = 13 machines ([78 stators = 13 machines, 234 steel pipes = 16 machines, 240 steel ingot = 8 machines, 360 iron ore, 360 coal,{780 wires = 18 machines, 270 copper ingot= 9 smelters = 270 copper ore }]) {{total of 675 iron ore, 675 coal}}

To run 5 Manufecturers, to run 10 Nuclear Powerplant

jagged grail Jul 15, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Heh, you do know the nuclear fuel rods last quite a bit?

dark lotus Jul 15, 2019, 9:19 PM

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satisfactory wiki

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1 rod takes 5 mins to burn, 1 rod takes 2.5 mins to be made

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shit

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i forgot about the ai limiter

summer field Jul 15, 2019, 10:35 PM

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🙄

simple jungle Jul 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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i think you mixed servers

summer field Jul 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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!FicsitHR hardban @fierce ruin NSFW, Spam, lots of NOPE

meager kilnBOT Jul 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Hardbanned JewSlayer#2900 (595343080467726338)

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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you could've at least wait a few seconds before I download the pic

simple jungle Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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degenerate not being in his hen server

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you are disgusting

summer field Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I'm sure you'll be able to find it, don't you guys have internet?

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I don't even know what was on the pic

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Umm greeny you have a flaw in your calculator

simple jungle Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@wind spade food like meat

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I just came here and the pic dissapeared in 0.5 seconds

summer field Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@simple jungle looked more like a buffet. But, moving on.

simple jungle Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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ok

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM

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so on and so forth clause

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Why is the buildings tab very different in number to the items tab? When looking at the items tab I get 130.8 manufactures but in the buildings menu I get 147.

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:39 PM

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it rounds up every production line

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it was put there to have good shard counters

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I don't know about a good way to solve this

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well, I can remove the shard counter

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Cause I used the buildings tab to make my factory I have over made how many machines I need. Good to know there is a reason for why it does that

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:42 PM

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example situation: user has two production lines, each one with 1.5 miners overclocked to 250%

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each production line needs 6 shards, but in total, it would say 3 miners, 12 shards

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:43 PM

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okay makes sense

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:43 PM

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so I had to round it up

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I would sell my soul for a better solution

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probably removing the shard counter is easiest

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not really a solution, but at least it will give correct numbers

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:46 PM

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That would make the difference for those who are not aware, or add another tab that simply adds the numbers for the items list together so people know the difference and rename the buildings tab

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:46 PM

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there is still the issue of slight incosistency tho

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because for example 2.5 constructors making rods and 2.5 constructors making screws isn't 5 constructors in total

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I mean yeah, I can sum them, but the player will need more than that

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I'm kinda interested how does Anthor handle this

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Once he gets back from his vacation we can ask him

wind spade Jul 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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yeah, he does the same thing as I do

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https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/production-planner/index/index/ironRod/22.5/ironPlate/22.5/maxBeltSpeed/780

Satisfactory - Calculator

Satisfactory helper to calculate your production needs.

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you just get 4 constructors

fierce ruin Jul 15, 2019, 10:53 PM

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🤔

mint lagoon Jul 16, 2019, 4:13 AM

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^^this was why I was hoping for a "round production lines up to the next machine Including upping production needs" option

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that would up my lines to even so i wouldn't have to worry about way over building lower resources.

celest fox Jul 16, 2019, 4:21 AM

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What is the best layout for a train loop around the island?

glacial hemlock Jul 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Gridded layout will do. Maximum of 4 turns

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You can either orient it to NSEW or rotate it to any angle, but keep it rectangular

glacial hemlock Jul 16, 2019, 5:03 AM

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The other way to do it is realistic loop which loop through all the center of resource node group, it is advised to based on online map to plan out your route. Single nodes far away from main line has to be transported by secondary logistics.

pulsar stratus Jul 16, 2019, 5:46 AM

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@wind spade @fierce ruin in the example provided it seems correct to have 4 ?

verbal badge Jul 16, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Hey, has anyone ever done any tests on train acceleration and deceleration based on the number of freight cars

fierce ruin Jul 16, 2019, 7:32 AM

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yes

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you get more acceleration the more locomotives you add

verbal badge Jul 16, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Yeah, I know that, but does anyone have any time? Like, for example.

with a locomotive and 0 freight-car we reach the maximum speed x in t
with one locomotive and 3 freight cars we reach the maximum speed x in t

fierce ruin Jul 16, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Not sure on an exact time personally but for the train I have made 6-20 I get upto full speed in about 5-10 seconds

verbal badge Jul 16, 2019, 7:35 AM

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6-20 ? I don't understand

fierce ruin Jul 16, 2019, 7:36 AM

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6 locomotives 20 cars

verbal badge Jul 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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oh, okay... I would have liked to have a mathematical function of acceleration and deceleration according to the number of locomotives, for example:
acceleration (locomotive, freight-car) = 3xlocomotive + 9xfreight-car

neon pier Jul 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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I guess we should map the acceleration curve, especially say 99-120km/h, so that the effects of various radius turns, and grade changes, can be estimated on trip times. If you slow to 90 km/h it takes a while to get back to 120.

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And doesn’t draw much power to do so...

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 7:41 AM

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it's really difficult, if not impossible to get something analytic like that

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unless the devs give us something to work with

neon pier Jul 16, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Yeah, just leaves us with measure & model. Maybe get my students to do it...

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Unfortunately, mathematical models and satisfactory don't mesh well together

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a lot of things are calculated seperately when out of render, I have a lot of experience with this

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that, and due to some sort of simulation inaccuracies, or however it shows up, even empiric models may not show the full case.

haughty quail Jul 16, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Is it because the train will teleport to waypoints when it's out of render distance, similar to vehicles?

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Hoping someone can help with main bus ideas. I've seen a lot of things saying its better to not bus copper wire and use ingots instead as it 1:3 ratio and craft the wire each time its needed. That means more constructors overall thus more power and i wont have as easy access to wire when i need it outside of my automation (putting excess in storage isnt as easy with production so spread out) so is it better to belt ingot or wire around as they both will have the same bottleneck speed of highest belt level right?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:53 AM

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For the "easy access part", I'd just have a constructor dedicated to spitting out copper wire to put in storage.

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The ingots are better to belt, because the wire will saturate any given level of belt faster.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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^ also, you can't saturate a belt with wire.

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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?

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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you cant?

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Nope

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If a machine puts out more than one item per cycle, you can't saturate a belt with its product

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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@fallow lily yeah true i can just split one of early i guess to make wire seperate

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:55 AM

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That doesn't make sense. If you're producing, say, 90 wire/minute, it will saturate one Mk 1 belt, and require two to fully transport.

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And screws absolutely will saturate Mk 1 belts.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:56 AM

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https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/11669/belt-cannot-accomplish-450items-when-using-mergers-splitters
It's been known about for quite a while

Mk. 4 Belt cannot accomplish 450items/min when using mergers/split...

So a user (Eila) on the discord reported this in the #math & meta channel, and then I was able ... but there's some sort of game bug preventing it.

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:57 AM

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You're talking about something very different.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:57 AM

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What do you mean?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:57 AM

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If you're producing 2,000 items/minute, it doesn't matter what belt you're using. You will saturate the capacity of one belt, and will require several to transport it all.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Give me a moment, computer

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 8:58 AM

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I am perhaps not using the right term, but the point remains the same. Copper ingots need less belt capacity to transport them than the equivalent in copper wire.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 8:59 AM

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yeah, that's true

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but, to start off, though the example I posted was quickwire

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it's actually applicable to all machines which put out multiple items per cycle

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depending on the alt you use

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if we use base Wire, you aren't putting out 45 ppm wire

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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so is the advantage that theres a greater amount of potential wire in the ingots on the belts at a time?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Correct, Rick.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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you're instead putting out 60 ppm wire, or 120, or whatever your belt speed is, for 3 items at a time, every 4 seconds

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Tomayo is getting into a separate issue here.

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:01 AM

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is that worth the power tho?

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:01 AM

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Yeah, you should belt ingots, that was already said, belting wire is kind of ridiculous, I'm just saying that even if you wanted to belt wire, you would either not be using your belts to their capacity, or you would be transporting less than you intend to.
Also, what do you mean by power?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:02 AM

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That's not a great question to ask. You need enough wire production to support your desired output, no matter where it's located.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Power is going to be consumed, no matter where you produce the wire

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:03 AM

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true im thinking of excess wire production at each site but i can just reduce the output of each machine to match

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:03 AM

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underclock your machines so that there's negligable or no excess

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Unlike Factorio, machines don't use power when they're not in operation.

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:04 AM

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thanks it does make more sense now

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:05 AM

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So even if you don't bother with the underclocking, you'll only use as much power as you need (once everything fills up, anyway).

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Anyways, since I went through the trouble of getting on my computer to explain something, just going to reinforce it, do not try to saturate belts to capacity if your machines put out multiple items, it won't work. When you're belting your wire, try to make an injected manifolds, instead of balancing the lines.

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:06 AM

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yeah just takes a little time to reach but i have plenty 😀

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injected manifold?

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:07 AM

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I have a really awful example, in fact.

📎 manifodsl.png

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Where you merge in more parts as needed, to deal with the maximum parts per minute of your best belt

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the bottom is supposed to connect to other machines, so don't worry about that, but the top is a bunch of splitters and mergers which supply those assemblers.

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If I remember correctly, the assemblers needed 600 something screws, but I only had T3 belts at the time.

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:09 AM

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i dont quite understand how does it deal with the max parts per min? you can go over it?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:10 AM

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I wonder if there's a glossary of community terms somewhere.

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:10 AM

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when that first assembler consumes as many ppm as it needs, enough space appears on the belt to inject another belt's worth of parts

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There isn't a glossary, unfortunately. I asked greeny, but he said that there aren't enough terms

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:11 AM

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right ive got you

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 9:11 AM

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A caution: This method is great when you have high volumes of materials, but as you get to more advanced products produced in smaller quantities, some thought should be given to alternatives.

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:11 AM

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ive played a lot of the game but only recent coming on discord. i will learn the terms as quick as i can

feral dew Jul 16, 2019, 9:12 AM

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this sort of thing wouldn't exist if I had higher tier belts. But it's the best thing you can do with T3 belts and 600 something screws per minute

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if you want it to work, that is jacelul

atomic timber Jul 16, 2019, 9:15 AM

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i never thought of using splitters and mergers like that. interesting

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 10:21 AM

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@pulsar stratus yeah, 4 is correct. I have this issue on my site, where people see "1.5 constructors" for two items and then they are surprised that the result is 4 and not 3, because they just sum them in their head. It's combined with the shards issue on my site, so it behaves slightly more different, but I was just curious if you handled the case differently (you don't have a machine list in items view, so you are probably not affected by this)

pulsar stratus Jul 16, 2019, 10:53 AM

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I only got a building list that list the nodes

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

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yeah. In my items list, I list the buildings as well, and sometimes people get confused when they sum up the numbers and they don't fit to what they think is correct

📎 34f0b529-2805-4453-88ab-abbce8450c57.png

fresh cradle Jul 16, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@eager spindle

📎 eeee.PNG

eager spindle Jul 16, 2019, 12:53 PM

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is it getting bigger?

fresh cradle Jul 16, 2019, 12:53 PM

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what??

eager spindle Jul 16, 2019, 12:53 PM

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is the number in memory for satisfactory getting bigger?

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if so, there's probably no chance that the game will be able to load your map, you might as well close it

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and you should go to #old-questions-and-help for more help

fresh cradle Jul 16, 2019, 12:54 PM

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ok 😉

opaque pond Jul 16, 2019, 1:43 PM

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lol im not good at math

shut arch Jul 16, 2019, 4:06 PM

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what's a sensible rate of production for alclad sheets in a largish factory? does 360/min sound halfway decent?

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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depends on what you are aiming for

shut arch Jul 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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that is a very good question. probably what i'd have asked a customer

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and i have just as much of a clue as most of my customers 😕

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i guess what i mean is if that's enough to move on to other stuff that leads to turbo motors or if one should really first build up the alclad production some more

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i've tapped 3 pure bauxite nodes so far, put mk2 miners on them and overclocked them to 250%. the question i ask myself is if i really need to go further out and get more bauxite or if i should first kick off the turbo motor production chain and scale by moving to mk3 miners later

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nice web site btw. a bit confusing for me (i'm more of a manual optimizer), but i can see the work that was put into it.

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I mean you need them only for belts, right? so you don't really need many of them

shut arch Jul 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

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right now i need them only for belts, yes. but the mid-term goal is turbo motors which need them for several intermediate products

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

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oh well I thought that's going to be different production line

shut arch Jul 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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nah, i always produce the last thing that's common to everything centrally

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i optimize for that stuff an then deliver that to the other production lines.

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I'd build what you need and expand it later

uncut pine Jul 16, 2019, 4:33 PM

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is the alt stealbars worth it?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 4:34 PM

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By steel bars, do you mean steel ingots?

uncut pine Jul 16, 2019, 4:34 PM

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yea sry^^

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from coal and iron yes

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or any other recommend alts for this production?

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 4:36 PM

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The Steel Ingot alternate is absolutely worth it.

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Enriched Steel Ingot is a bit fuzzier, since that needs compacted coal and therefore sulfur.

uncut pine Jul 16, 2019, 4:39 PM

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oki also the alts 3iron ingot and 3 coal^^

fallow lily Jul 16, 2019, 4:39 PM

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That's the first one I mentioned, and is absolutely worth the extra step.

uncut pine Jul 16, 2019, 4:40 PM

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okay thx (:

mint lagoon Jul 16, 2019, 7:15 PM

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@fallow lily but one probably needs compacted coal anyways , due to turbo fuel needs later on, I feel the lesser drain on iron is worth the higher drain on sulfur as 1 normal node of sulfur (mk2 overclocked to 250%) is more than enough to run an all resources (except ammo/filters) at 100% factory.

haughty quail Jul 16, 2019, 8:14 PM

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If I need to load balance to multiple freight stations off of one line of 780 resources per min, would I manifold and still get the same efficiency?

haughty quail Jul 16, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Sadly conveyor belts are still the best way to go in this damn game. It's a shame trains were rushed to release, because we're highly limited by what we can do with routing and such

neon pier Jul 16, 2019, 10:36 PM

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True, but I intend to live in this save for a long time, so I’m building rail lines for the future and hacking “single shot” lines when need now - no more long belts for me...

timber igloo Jul 16, 2019, 10:40 PM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

wind spade Jul 16, 2019, 11:01 PM

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┬─┬ ノ(゜-゜ノ)

glacial hemlock Jul 17, 2019, 12:18 AM

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@shut arch 60/min could be sufficient. Alone. Unless you use that to make some higher tier items.

mental mist Jul 17, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@haughty quail ive had nothing but epic results with my trains i vote trains are better

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2340 iron ingots/min factory fed by a 6car train on a 10ish minute loop

glacial hemlock Jul 17, 2019, 5:34 AM

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I would say trains have better expandability than belts. You could simply double the cars to get almost double throughput. Of course for long range only.

feral dew Jul 17, 2019, 5:35 AM

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I don't think anybody's setting up train routes to transport iron plates 100 meters

mental mist Jul 17, 2019, 5:53 AM

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@feral dew i agree

glacial hemlock Jul 17, 2019, 7:54 AM

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That actually might lead to lower throughput

arctic nova Jul 17, 2019, 12:53 PM

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That would be an somewhat funny/interesting approach. Can you make a factory with the limitation of only using belts shorter then 10m? Like I guess it should be possible, but how far will you progress till you delete the save

fluid ether Jul 17, 2019, 12:58 PM

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depends, are you allowed to make longer belts for getting resources from nodes? Are splitters/mergers allowed to extend this, in case they are used for actual splitting merging and not just for cheating extentions?

shrewd yacht Jul 17, 2019, 1:17 PM

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10m is to short. Thats like 2 foundations long?

fluid ether Jul 17, 2019, 1:30 PM

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2.5 foundations, they are 4 meters

bitter rivet Jul 17, 2019, 2:07 PM

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does anyone know if the angle limitations for conveyors are documented?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 2:09 PM

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The maximum allowed slope is 1m elevation: 1.75m horizontal distance.

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turning radius is 2m per 90 degrees

bitter rivet Jul 17, 2019, 3:27 PM

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awesome, thanks

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btw, are you going to post your tools on github?

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there are a couple of bugs I'd lke to PR away

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:28 PM

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not the old version, since code is shit and pull requests for it would only be in place for a few weeks/months, before changing to new version

bitter rivet Jul 17, 2019, 3:28 PM

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there's a new version?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:29 PM

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but if you have some ideas on how to fix bugs, feel free to DM me, I can add you as a contributor

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there will be a new version soonTM (a.k.a maybe before christmas)

little anchor Jul 17, 2019, 3:33 PM

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what code(s) are your site written in @wind spade (javascript and ?)

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:33 PM

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@little anchor 99% is javascript (AngularJS)

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if we don't count obvious HTML + CSS, then there are only a few PHP lines to handle the setup saving

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@bitter rivet if you want to do some PRs, you can DM me

sullen maple Jul 17, 2019, 3:37 PM

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hey there, i have a question.
Wich alternate recipe i should use for craft Turbo motor?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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almost all of them 🤔

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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alt screws! 😄 * runs away*

sullen maple Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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😂

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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BANNED

sullen maple Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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gonna kill u Tom

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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lol see ya greeny!

sullen maple Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 PM

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launch a nobelisk on Tom

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:39 PM

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launch ~~a nobelisk~~ ~~atomic bomb~~ ~~10 atomic bombs~~ 100 atomic bombs on Tom

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:41 PM

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I feel so warm from this love

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:42 PM

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from ~~love~~ all the radiation and explosion heatwaves

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I'll take what I can get

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:43 PM

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probably a radioactive poisoning and 3rd degree burns

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:44 PM

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worth spending a stockpiled amount of supercomputers on turbomotors ?

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like, I was making only 1.8/min

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:44 PM

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depends if you need SCs or TMs

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:44 PM

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well I need both 😛 I think we will need SCs for tier 8 stuff in the future

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but turbomotors for mk3 miners

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:44 PM

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then do a 1:1 split between storage and TMs factory

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or increase SCs production

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:45 PM

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might have to do option 2 first

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at least double production

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how much are you making per min of them?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:45 PM

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me? my best save doesn't have even computers automated

sullen maple Jul 17, 2019, 3:46 PM

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5000 Heavy Modular Frame.png Heavy Modular Frame
2500 Quantum Computer.png Quantum Computer
2500 Turbo Motor.png Turbo Motor

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Gonna be painfull

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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may change tho

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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lol

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and yeah those are possibly just placeholder numbers

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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but you'll probably make the TMs for that even with 0.01/min production before the patch arrives 🤔

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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especially considering we cant even make quantum computers with tier 7

pseudo jay Jul 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Right now I would build less than half a turbomoter per minute

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You don't need many as far as we know

sand garnet Jul 17, 2019, 3:56 PM

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that is true

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right now I just need them for the miners

glacial hemlock Jul 17, 2019, 5:28 PM

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@fluid ether it is 8 meters wide. The height varies though..

wise linden Jul 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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2+2=4?

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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the alts for stator, worth it?

empty hemlock Jul 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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every alt recipe except plastic are worth it

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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oki^^

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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@empty hemlock not really, there are a few that are worse (alt motors for example - increases cost of oil)

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and also for example alt rotor by itself isn't worth it

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:38 PM

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hmm

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okay so not worth

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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but if you combine alt rotor with other relevant alternates, then it's worth it

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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x)

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and alt stator with other alts too?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 5:42 PM

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you can check that here https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/alternate-recipes 😃

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

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also, a showcase of the tool: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/blqpym/ever_wondered_which_alternate_recipe_is_best_for/

r/SatisfactoryGame - Ever wondered which alternate recipe is best ...

77 votes and 36 comments so far on Reddit

agile tapir Jul 17, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Tip for everyone who has Photoshop: You can use the grid to plan your factories by going into preferences > Guides, Grid & Slices. Each square (unbroken line) is one platform, divided into 8 smaller squares (each smaller square = 1 meter)

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feral ferry Jul 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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for anyone without photoshop, draw.io uses a 4x4 main grid. it also does flowcharts better

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:54 PM

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the second one with the yellow wire

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 5:55 PM

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I linked the alternate recipe analyzer tool tho 🤔

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 5:56 PM

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oh so

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sooooo?

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wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 6:02 PM

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now you can pick the one row that suits you the most, based on the resources needed for it

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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oki

agile tapir Jul 17, 2019, 6:06 PM

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is there a way to overclock buildings in the calculator rather than make new ones?

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 6:11 PM

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there should be an "overclocking" tab

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where you can configure your overclocking

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however I don't really recommend overclocking of any machines apart from miners and pumps

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:16 PM

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why not?

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to much power loss?

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:16 PM

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You can build more machines.

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You can't build more miners or pumps than you have resource nodes.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:16 PM

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also only mines and pumps overclocking?

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but i cant build 7,4 foundrys or 12,6 constructor for example

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how i manage this?

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:18 PM

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You can underclock, but it's not really worth the trouble.

solemn glacier Jul 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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either let the machine suffer temporary shutdowns for lack of resources, or as mentioned above - underclock.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:22 PM

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in the alt recipe analyzer i came fir SIPs on 746,7 ressources, but in the normal calculator with the alts of 960 ressources...

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wheres the issue?

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Do they have the same item/minute count?

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And the same alternate recipes enabled?

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:24 PM

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think yes, the tool confuses me so many times x.x

solemn glacier Jul 17, 2019, 6:25 PM

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What is the recipe you are trying to use?

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:26 PM

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As far as I can tell, if you have the same settings in both the production calculator and the alternate recipes analyzer, it will give the same results.

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So make sure that you have the same item/minute settings for both and the same alternate recipes enabled.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:28 PM

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yea right

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but...how i can manage a 1,1 mk2 mine for example?

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Build 2.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:30 PM

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so confuse

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but i try it

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thx

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Basically, if it's telling you that it would take 1.1 machines to provide the output you need, it means that you need one and a second clocked at 10% or greater.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:31 PM

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or i take 2 impure with 250% overclocked

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than i have 0,9

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also 1 iron and 1 copper km2

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Then you need one machine at that clock level.

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Basically, round the numbers up.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:33 PM

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at the machines too?

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so 11,9 constructor, im build 11 right?

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ah 12

fallow lily Jul 17, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Yes, 12.

uncut pine Jul 17, 2019, 6:36 PM

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ok thats helped^^

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sry for all my questions

wind spade Jul 17, 2019, 8:24 PM

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and yes, overclocking stuff consumes way more power

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so 1 machine @ 200% eats way more power than 2 machines @ 100%

modern mural Jul 17, 2019, 8:42 PM

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uses tones of energy... manufacture uses 55 at 100% it uses 238.3 at 250%

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also energy production isnt as efficient. fuel generator is 150mw at 100% while only 303 at 250%

alpine lichen Jul 17, 2019, 10:21 PM

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3ws4edrfvtgybhunjimko,

feral dew Jul 18, 2019, 3:23 AM

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That doesn't fall under the so on and so forth clause

polar sleet Jul 18, 2019, 3:48 AM

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we generally don't overclock power plants as it doesn't really boost efficiency in anyway. it can compact power facilities, but you'r probably better off using them on resources nodes or production buildings.

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Guys. what is a good way to load balance materials into assemblers?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:18 AM

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a manfiold

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just a line of splitters for each assembler from a belt

fierce ruin Jul 18, 2019, 8:18 AM

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https://satisfactorytipssomewhatofaguide.blogspot.com/2019/07/11-conveyor-split-methods.html

11. Conveyor Split Methods

There are 2 types of conveyor splitting methods The first is called 'Manifold'. This basically means you feed the splitters from the side...

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:18 AM

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---+---+---+---+---+---+

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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isnt that just the overflow method?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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yeah, it's called manifold tho

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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guess, it's hard to load balance assemblers

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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you don't need to

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manifold will work at 100% efficiency

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:21 AM

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oh, ok then

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wait, can I put pics here?

fierce ruin Jul 18, 2019, 8:22 AM

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as long as you don't use it as a screenshot channel

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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if it's on topic, then go for it

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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this is my setup

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10-10 at the bottom and 6-6 on the top

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how should i split this from 1 input?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:26 AM

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does that one input have enough resources for all assemblers?

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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320 copper per min

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alclad sheet factory

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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I'd just put a splitter and run 1 belt up and one belt down. If you feed the machines from outside, do another split and run each belt as a manifold for the machines in 1 row

minor bay Jul 18, 2019, 8:30 AM

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we'll see if it works 100% efficiency

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 8:31 AM

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it will, it just takes some time to fill

willow veldt Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 AM

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So, did anyone do the math on available resources and optimal recipes for maximum output with map restrictions in mind?

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Was about to do it myself but figured I should ask before I spend a significant amount of time on crunching numbers

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:21 AM

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https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/consumption helps with optimal recipes

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

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these are the restrictions

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glacial hemlock Jul 18, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Crude oil: not 12000?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:26 AM

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we don't have mk2 pumps

willow veldt Jul 18, 2019, 11:37 AM

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@wind spade That's great, are the restrictions shown on the site as well? Can't seem to find them

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:37 AM

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no, they are what I've calculated from the nodes and current restrictions

willow veldt Jul 18, 2019, 11:38 AM

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less work for me, thank you!

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@wind spade Oh I presume the numbers are based upon mk3 and overclocking?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:42 AM

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yeah, mk3 miners, mk5 belts, max possible overclocking

willow veldt Jul 18, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Ah right belt restrictions for pure nodes, right right

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:43 AM

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they were calculated automatically from map data by a script, so unless map data is wrong, they should be correct

willow veldt Jul 18, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I see, man it's a bummer that we're losing a whole lot of potential resources due to belt cap, mk7/8 where you at

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:44 AM

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we can't even use this amount of resources now

pastel flax Jul 18, 2019, 11:56 AM

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What do you mean "can't"?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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FPS issues, also no way to get rid of the resources, so storages will eventually fill

fierce ruin Jul 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

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hey

calm flame Jul 18, 2019, 3:10 PM

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greeny, that's why I'd like to see some sort of "feed the elevator" system where you have constant flows of finished products and materials going into it. dunno what you'd GET for that, though.

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 3:10 PM

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sure, but we don't have it yet, so we can't count on that

dim thicket Jul 18, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I would like faster run speed, higher jumps, better jetpack, only as long as the elevator is being fed

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Then again, I can see a problem. Just fill a storage, then empty it into the elevator quickly

glacial hemlock Jul 18, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Infinite researches.

tropic hearth Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

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anyone done the maths and figured out at what distance a train becomes faster than belts?

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nvm i just kinda used my brain and realised they are pretty much always better until we get better belts

fallow lily Jul 18, 2019, 7:04 PM

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They’re also better for your performance.

tropic hearth Jul 18, 2019, 7:17 PM

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yeah think thats the main reason ill use them even if the distance is only a mere 2 km lol

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 7:18 PM

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you don't care about train being faster than belt tho

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you care about throughput

tropic hearth Jul 18, 2019, 7:25 PM

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well kinda a similar thing

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problem is im limited by belts so

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only going through the fuss to make trains over short distance to prevent lag in the future and cause they are pretty cool

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 7:35 PM

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it's totally not a similar thing

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you can have a train that goes 200km/h with way lower throughput than a train that goes 30 km/h

rocky mirage Jul 18, 2019, 8:54 PM

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i need some numbers crunched

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i need 750 circuit boards, how much plastic and wires do i need?

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i tried calculating it but i keep messing up

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is there a website or smthn?

hexed jungle Jul 18, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Check the pinned messages

rocky mirage Jul 18, 2019, 9:02 PM

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oh thx

tropic hearth Jul 18, 2019, 9:06 PM

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its similar not the same...but thats when you start going in to train size and how your track is laid which is much more complicated 😁

raven pendant Jul 18, 2019, 9:06 PM

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How many machines do i need for 6 nuclear towers?

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For fuel rods

fallow lily Jul 18, 2019, 9:08 PM

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https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/calculator

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

raven pendant Jul 18, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Don’t how much tho

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1 for each tower?

fallow lily Jul 18, 2019, 9:08 PM

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You need 0.2 fuel rods/minute for each reactor.

raven pendant Jul 18, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Ok

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 9:32 PM

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there is a power tool on the linked site

olive cliff Jul 18, 2019, 10:18 PM

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any way/mod for when you need an output rate between percentages?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 10:21 PM

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not really

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why do you need that anyway?

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Can anyone share with me how many oil refineries> fuel gens i can run off of 2 pure 250%oil pumps?

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Just so im not wasting time lol

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:06 PM

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https://satisfactory.greeny.dev/consumption

Satisfactory Calculator

A powerful Satisfactory calculator, filled with features, supports overclocking, alternate recipes, live map, power calculations, etc.

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😄

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Im on mobile and i dont understand how it works :(

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The ui isnt very intuitive for me.. sorry greeny

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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put what you want to make to production (probably a fuel)
put what you have (oil) in input
press "hide" to see the result

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

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But hide is so unintuitive lol

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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on normal screen it's just a side panel

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and it hides the side panel

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but on mobile it expands on the whole screen

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don't worry, I'm working on a new UI

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that will be out maybe even this year

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Maybe just change the hide button on mobile to say " show result" and point arrow forward, not back

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I don't even officially support mobiles, the UI on them is terrible

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and I haven't really optimalised anything for mobiles

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Lol its responsive right?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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that's just because of the base template used

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not because of my coding

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Just do a little css stuff

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As an emergency measure

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I'm:

lazy
not a frontend dev
totally not a UX designer

and also

working on a new UI 😄

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Lol

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If you want my inout during development DM me with updates

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Input*

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:17 PM

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you can join my discord, where I'll eventually post updates about the new version and also collect a few people for alpha testing

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Honestly im already struggling keeping track of the amount of discords im part of lol

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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np

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won't be anytime soon, so don't worry

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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I barely keep up with 2 frequently lol

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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and there will be a public testing phase as well

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Alright

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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just later 😄

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so maybe around crhistmas

feral dew Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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you guys are too loud, Tom, why are you in here?

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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he was asking math questions

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Do you have a way to check how much power i can produce with just 750 fuel/min

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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yeah, power tool on my site 😄

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tools -> power

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should be a bit more intuitive

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Thanks

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:20 PM

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(but you still have to "hide")

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Did that just now

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62.5 gens so 62

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9.3gw should hold for now

wind spade Jul 18, 2019, 11:21 PM

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with gens, you can go a bit over the limit, so you can do

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because you won't be able to use 100% of the power anyway

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*you can do 63

sand garnet Jul 18, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Id rather be too low thsn too high

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Thanks for all the help. Gonna sleep now

gleaming patio Jul 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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How much fuel per minute does a nuclear reactor use? And does it output nuclear waste at the same rate?

glacial hemlock Jul 19, 2019, 4:30 AM

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checkpins

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Check pins and wikis before asking question

feral dew Jul 19, 2019, 4:31 AM

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there's an alternative answer here

glacial hemlock Jul 19, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Alt (answer)? Ok... @wind spade

polar sleet Jul 19, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Whelp, did some tests and isolated the nature of the bug where trains with 3+ stops bugs out when you use going in reverse. it's a combo of un explicit behavior and a bug.
1 (subtle/bug?): when the train tries to path find to it's next destination, it favors train forward first, rather than station forward first.
2 (bug): when a train exits a station in the station reverse direction (regardless of train orientation) the time table is iterated twice.
-note when it iterates the time table, it'll skip identical entries. as such, people's solutions of duplicate time table entries doesn't seem to work anymore.

glacial hemlock Jul 19, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Yes, it is quite prominent. For 3 and above stations use loop instead.

balmy sierra Jul 19, 2019, 11:33 AM

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http://prntscr.com/oh9fba in this case the input means it needs to get 1 rod at a rate of 15 per minute, and as a result it will output 6 screws at a rate of 90 per minute?

Lightshot

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Captured with Lightshot

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i dont think i fully understand how to read this interface

crude girder Jul 19, 2019, 11:37 AM

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1 rod = 6 screws, takes 4 seconds per cycle

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per minute is just multiplying the time taken to reach 60s, which is 15

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thus 15 rod pm = 90 screws pm

balmy sierra Jul 19, 2019, 11:39 AM

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thx

wheat saddle Jul 19, 2019, 11:58 AM

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seeing as a train

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zealous zephyr Jul 19, 2019, 5:27 PM

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are any of you guys good at trains?

broken brook Jul 19, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I am

glacial hemlock Jul 19, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Nobody: i am bad at trains

wispy arrow Jul 19, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I am a bad train?

ivory sentinel Jul 19, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I like trains

feral ferry Jul 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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i just built up my nuke plant using some trucks and i'm so glad i did. hilarity ensues

patent bough Jul 19, 2019, 9:23 PM

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i'm okay at trains. havent tried junctions yet.

raven pendant Jul 19, 2019, 10:08 PM

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It’s okay but it’s bugged rn u get missing trains with AI fright cars with no train attach

fierce ruin Jul 19, 2019, 10:12 PM

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@zealous zephyr https://satisfactorytipssomewhatofaguide.blogspot.com/2019/07/13.html

13. Setting Up Trains

O God Trains, Where do I begin..... There are various methods to setting up Trains. Depending on your factory and where the reso...

dire plank Jul 19, 2019, 10:19 PM

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when producing 500 nuclear waste how long it takes?

fallow lily Jul 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

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100 minutes / number of reactors.

dire plank Jul 19, 2019, 10:32 PM

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aight thanks

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Hellooooooo...
I come bearing a terrible graph.
BEHOLD...
210 Nuclear Reactors. Laid out in a most... ehhhh...? Fashion.
Each square is a foundation.

Im thinking of making a "taur" where the reactors are kind of a showcase. So this shape lets me do something neat with the footprint while making it more/less headache (chose your own adventure in this regard).

Train station to bring in 84 N.F.R / Minute
Train station to remove 2100 N.W / Minute (Thanks to @fallow lily for checking the numbers on this)
Single carts should do the trick for production, waste will be a bandwidth nightmare though.

The production facility that support this will be located a ways a way away.

The waste storage facility that will support this will be specc'ed to store 500 Hours worth of waste at maximum input rate because i never want to go back into it ever again, though i will build as if we will be able to recycle the waste into something

If i need more than 500 Hours of full load storage, ill prob just copy pasta another one in place and add a train-stop.

Thanks for reading.

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fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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420 waste/minute.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:37 AM

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is that for 250% overclock or stock clock?

fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Doesn't matter.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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😮

fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Though I am off. If you're consuming 84 rods per minute, you're generating 25 waste/minute, and that should be 2100 waste/minute.

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I was thinking 84 reactors.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:42 AM

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So each reactor makes 10 waste a minute?
NEATO

fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Well...

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Now that does depend on the overclock.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:43 AM

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👉

fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:44 AM

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For a given total fuel rod consumption, you have a certain amount of waste generated.

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That isn't affected by overclock.

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What is affected is how quickly each individual reactor is making waste.

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Also, the overclock formula for power generators is weird.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 1:45 AM

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yeah, ive noticed 250% on nuclear is 4995.5 or something?

fallow lily Jul 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Something like that.

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https://satisfactory.gamepedia.com/Clock_speed

Satisfactory Wiki

Clock speed

Production and power buildings, such as the Constructor or Biomass Burner, can have their clock speed changed to anything between 1% and 250%. For production buildings, this allows them to operate slower or faster at the cost of greatly reduced or increased power usage. For p...

glacial hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 3:28 AM

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@viscid raft challenge: to arrange nuclear reactors such that they look like a larger nuclear reactor.

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 3:39 AM

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....

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.........

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give... me... a bit

viscid raft Jul 20, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@glacial hemlock
Each green area is 5x6 foundations minium

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blame excel and the game for only having 90 degree foundations

feral dew Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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you could always just rotate those by 60 degrees

glacial hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Omg, you should look for some tutorial how to do circular foundations.

orchid panther Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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^

feral dew Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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I believe the rotation increment is 15 degrees, so you can manage a 3 way triangle thing

glacial hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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10deg.

feral dew Jul 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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10? Ah well,

glacial hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Can make pretty round one i am sure, i didn't do it myself, but a lot of people do it in #screenshots

feral dew Jul 20, 2019, 4:19 AM

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a lot of people, I've noticed

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I wonder if CSS will be doing any ingame support on that topic, since it's such a process

woeful stump Jul 20, 2019, 5:25 AM

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not sure where to ask this, but i have an idea, but to execute it i need to know the answer to this scenario... lets assume theres a platform way higher than you can jetpack to or feasibly build stairs to, what would be the fastest way to get back up to said platform?

warm wren Jul 20, 2019, 5:25 AM

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So if I double my super computers from 8 to 16 machines 🤔 I need to move 2100~ rubber total for it. I'm wondering if a train would be better for that.

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@woeful stump In such a scenario I'd build sub platforms to jetpack to if that's possible.

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I have a couple of places like that. I have 'climb' by flying to one, refueling, then flying up again.

woeful stump Jul 20, 2019, 5:28 AM

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so heres my idea, find the highest reasonable place on the map, and build a sky lattice all the way across the map every 500m or something, with mk5 conveyors stretching the entire network, and then you can just drop in anywhere on the map within 500m in about 30 seconds

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only challenge is figuring out a cute way to get back up

onyx crag Jul 20, 2019, 5:29 AM

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@woeful stump build foundations up and use train tracks to build bridges to them

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or make a column, jetpack up while dropping foundations beneath you

woeful stump Jul 20, 2019, 5:30 AM

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was hoping for something repeatable and sustainable, so i can beacon every 500x500m as a drop point with some kind of ladder back

onyx crag Jul 20, 2019, 5:31 AM

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if you have the resources, you could build ladders or towers to climb back up

woeful stump Jul 20, 2019, 5:31 AM

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u cant travel on conveyor elevators like belts can u

onyx crag Jul 20, 2019, 5:31 AM

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nope

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oh. bounce pads.

woeful stump Jul 20, 2019, 5:32 AM

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yea i thought about doing something like sonic the hedgehog with the 45 degree bounce pads

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but not sure how feasible that is

onyx crag Jul 20, 2019, 5:32 AM

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I started trying to make a bounce pad system to get up to the bauxite in the NW by the oil