satisfactory

[white dawn]

Also as mentioned, you do need to be able to make steel products before actually using it

[formal depot]

i do have the blueprint and everything, had a little sulfur cluster near my hub so i mined and researched it, i just need some steel now

[austere tinsel]

Generally I setup 1200mw of Coal Power heading into steel production.

Decent chunk of power to last you awhile.

[hasty tree]

Are making trains worth it? I was able to go to drones & turbofuel without making trains. I started planning out a centralized mega-factory that is supposed to bring me to the end-game, but once I started running train lines to it, I realized that making trains sucks. Idk if I'm doing it wrong, but the rails are very touchy with their curvature, nothing fits in the blueprint planner so I'm hand-crafting everything. Does this pay off? Or should I stick to belts & drones?

[quiet mortar]

Idk i love trains

[hasty tree]

I think I could spend days setting up trains, but achieve the same goals with drones with faster turnaround. It's been a massive time cost right now, and I have to re-create everything because it won't fit in the blueprint planner.

[abstract heron]

Oooo

[latent prawn]

*CHOooo

[abstract heron]

19,600hrs past yay

[quiet mortar]

Thats true tho

[abstract heron]

But warmer temps is coming soonish for me not so yay

30c on Monday

[latent prawn]

i'm happy, stators are done

[normal trench]

How many a minute?

Also I have the first floor of my factory done

This has been a pain in the ass to build though, the clocks have been so wierd

[abstract heron]

Who even ordered 30c

[normal trench]

Wait thirty Celsius?

[normal trench]

I need clarification, I have chronic dumb-americanitus

[abstract heron]

Its 86f

[normal trench]

Ok so you did mean Celsius, great

[abstract heron]

Yes I only do c as weather

[normal trench]

Thats annoying, the heat is miserable

[abstract heron]

I want to play but to hot for sleeping or something so idk

[normal trench]

Yeah im sorry dude

[abstract heron]

What do I do

I hate summer playing the game

[normal trench]

Oh wait a decent bit of Europe doesnt have ACs right

[abstract heron]

Okay and

[normal trench]

Oh I was just talking about you saying too hot for sleeping

[abstract heron]

Yes Ik but i loving playing the game but summer it’s rough for playing

[normal trench]

Im sorry dude

[abstract heron]

For temps to hot etc etc

[abstract heron]

How do I play when it’s 30c

[normal trench]

Yeah, that’s miserable, honestly i prefer 2 degrees c than like 30 degrees Celsius

[normal trench]

I don’t know

[abstract heron]

Minus fans and such

[normal trench]

I’ve never had to deal with that really, because cooling systems are super common in like all homes here

So I can’t really help

[latent prawn]

432/min, but built and have clocking headroom to go to 1080/min

[normal trench]

Holy crap

Nice dude

[latent prawn]

i'm slumming in phase 3 so i don't yet have access to leached caterium

[quiet mortar]

What the hell what for

[latent prawn]

moar ingots

[quiet mortar]

No what do you need 432 stators for

[placid stirrup]

To automate the power storage factory, duh

[latent prawn]

right now, motors & autowire. down the road, nuclear

[white dawn]

(power storage takes EIBs instead of stators nowadays, btw)

[quiet mortar]

[quiet mortar]

damn i forgot

[placid stirrup]

Damn, boomer moment from me then

[quiet mortar]

still crazy

[white dawn]

I mean, I had to look it up. :D

[quiet mortar]

im maxing nuclear and i only need 387 per min in that factory

[placid stirrup]

back in my day, power storage cost a nickel five stators!!

[latent prawn]

stators are one of those parts that you need more of than you intend upon when you get to nuclear

i guess technically they're also needed for mag field generators

[untold moat]

Ngl I had some whiplash the other day where I decided to use power storages again and realized they no longer cost stators.

[placid stirrup]

I feel like toward the end of P4 you can choose to include or omit virtually every component

[latent prawn]

i wish they still did cost stators

[quiet mortar]

i dont it used to be a pain in the ass

[placid stirrup]

I'd used them since the recipe changed and never noticed or internalized the change

[white dawn]

Yeah, stators made more logical sense. C'est la vie!

[quiet mortar]

cause i didnt make stators for storage

[quiet mortar]

No they dont

[latent prawn]

hey, but stators are faster to make, especially with qw stator

[quiet mortar]

What would stators do in a power storage

[white dawn]

The real question is why they don't require Batteries. :)

[latent prawn]

spin

[quiet mortar]

stators are the part of the motor thats stationary

thats why theyre called stators

[latent prawn]

as a part, it made more sense than steel+concrete

[untold moat]

Spin to induce power in wires.

[quiet mortar]

see previous message

[untold moat]

As a diesel tech that has worked on them before, they can also spin.

[latent prawn]

perhaps the power storages use kinetic energy to store their charge.

[quiet mortar]

Do you maybe know what kind of motors those are

like what their name is

But the stator is by definition the part that doesnt spin no

[untold moat]

Don't recall the models exactly, but it was a test question on my final for getting my associates in the program

[untold moat]

Yesnt.

[quiet mortar]

There are definitely motors where the stator and rotor are swapped

so the stator is inside the rotor

maybe you mean those?

[untold moat]

another thing to consider is that if you look at how the rotor and stator are modeled in game, it can seem like one should be the other.

[quiet mortar]

the rotor looks hella weird yeah

wait i never noticed

[untold moat]

becaues you can see the induction coils on the stator that spin past a magnet to have power induced to it, whereas the rotor just looks like it would be stationarily mounted

[quiet mortar]

stator also kinda looks like some rotors

weird

[untold moat]

if we are being really pendantic about how the power storages work, based off of their animation, its definite something rotating inside the generates the power, so technically it should have both rotors and stators, or motors (as if you run an electric motor's current glow backwards, you got a crude generator)

[placid stirrup]

It's a flywheel, the stator is suspended by the induced magnetic field

[rich harbor]

Guys how tf do i get gas filters😭

[void cliff]

Interesting enough power storages used to require stators, but no longer do as of 1.0

[latent prawn]

find some mushrooms & research mycelia in the mam

[rich harbor]

I get that but WHERE LIKE THESE MUSHROOMS R NOWHERE

[latent prawn]

what's kind of dumb is they made an effort to reduce the parts needed for building - stators & circuit boards got cut, but in 1.2 the fluid truck stations take stators again 🤦

[latent prawn]

caves primarily. if you're in dune desert, the trees that look like they're growing out of pots give mycelia

[rich harbor]

Well long journey ig 😭 thx so i just gotta cut trees at the dune desert basically?

[latent prawn]

also that coral stuff all over blue crater & rocky desert can be chainsawed for it

[rich harbor]

ah ok i'll try thx

[latent prawn]

where did you start?

[worn oar]

I've tried to play through without a bigger inventory mod 8 or 9 times now and I cannot. It's too obnoxious to manage the small inventory while building.

[dense violet]

80 slots 'small', especially when depots exist >.>

[worn oar]

It's laughably small

[scarlet olive]

I hate pipes
I hate pipes
I hate pipes
I hate pipes

Thanks to the fluids guide i finally found my design problem but those stupid rules caused me to quit this Beutiful game for 4 months

[worn oar]

Is there a site that shows crash site loot, so I can figure out where the closest circuit boards are to grass fields?

There's a steam guide but the coordinates are just made up

[dusk galleon]

Can people help me, it keeps saying my next stop is unreachable

I am trying to have 1 train double sided, and I have no clue what I am doing

[earnest condor]

Train station is backwards.

[dusk galleon]

yeah, I am flipping them, and it isn't doing anything

[earnest condor]

Screenshots.

[dusk galleon]

sent

[native tapir]

nothing wrong with the pipes

[earnest condor]

Can you do top-down versions?
P and then press R to decouple the camera.

[dusk galleon]

I sent one, let me get back to the top to send the other

trains still work, just not automated

[earnest condor]

Is this rail a loop or a down-and-back?

[dusk galleon]

down and back

[earnest condor]

Then your station is both backwards and on the wrong side.

<------>

Both of them need to be facing away from the rail.

[dusk galleon]

So is this accurate?

[worn oar]

AHHHHHHHHHH

I just found out after almost 600 hours that you can middle click a machine to copy that machine

[earnest condor]

Um... do you have the freight cars that far away from the lead locomotive?

[worn oar]

I don't have to manually set recipes on every one with copy paste

[rigid mist]

i miscalculated and forgot that my generators consumed 250% so now i gotta either manually change 320 generators to 250% or build 1.5x more generators

[dusk galleon]

no

[earnest condor]

Works with smarts/poggers too. Is why sushi is a breeze nowadays. Do the splitters for one machine and then just eyedropper build them.

[dusk galleon]

Let me redo that then

Do you think I need much free space and freights for 5 water pumps? I am wondering if I have to move the fluid stations

[earnest condor]

Pumps are only for when fluid goes UP.
If no go up, no need pump.

[quick hound]

Do slooped machines cost double the amount of resources to craft?

[earnest condor]

No. It is a duplication for free.

Only cost is "power to run the machine."

[quick hound]

LETS GO!

[dusk galleon]

Does it look good now?

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

The train should be able to run between both stations just fine.

[dusk galleon]

Great, will it spontaneously combust or not work?

[earnest condor]

The train will work.
As for the moving of the fluids... that's questionable.

How much are you trying to move per platform?

[dusk galleon]

Actually, I probably only need 1 platform because of mk 2 pumps, so I guess 5 pumps worth, or 600/minute

[earnest condor]

Please differentiate between "Pumps" which have a defined, specific meaning and "Extractors" which mean something completely different so that I know how to help you.

[dusk galleon]

Right, sorry, I meant water extractors

I haven't unlocked pumps yet, so I haven't had to deal with them

[earnest condor]

You unlocked pumps the moment you unlocked Water Extractors.

[dusk galleon]

oh, I was thinking of pressurizers

[restive umbra]

I haven't unlocked pressurizers yet

[earnest condor]

Do you have mk2 pipes?

[dusk galleon]

Yeah, I just got them, I had forgotten about them

So I now have this monstrosity, and 1 fluid freight platform

[earnest condor]

Use Shards and just have 2 Extractors. Much simpler.

[quick hound]

Hey, these shards taste good. Am I gonna get superpowers?

[restive umbra]

yes!

well, I guess it depends on whether you consider lots and lots of cancer as a superpower

[quick hound]

What’s cancer! Sounds like a strange type of food! :P

[chilly nova]

quick question, if I have 2 tractors delivering 2 resources to a docking station, each of the outputs will deliver each resource right?

[earnest condor]

No.
Truck Stop is basically just an ISC that allows vehicles to interact with it.

[abstract heron]

19,611 hrs on record yay MORE HRS my world is 5,769hrs

[latent prawn]

no, you'll need to filter the output belts with smart splitters into output containers followed by a sink

[chilly nova]

alright, thanks, I don´t have smart splitters yet so I´ll just create a seperate input

[latent prawn]

that's a more robust way, for sure, but i've done entire playthroughs driven by truck station item filtering

[hollow mango]

liquids man

riddle me this, i have 3 particle accelerators linking up to a pipe of oil supplying 600, i have this same setup copied another 2 times, every inch of this system had oil in it, no air left anywhere, the pipes are 100% the mk2 all the way as it works fine most of the time, however after running for a while 1 of lines just starts running out of oil. i know there must be a mistake somewhere but i cant for the life of me figure this out. ive repreasired everything twice now and it always happens. works fine for a while then just starts running out of oil

[latent prawn]

are all the consumers at the same altitude, or is there a height change in the pipe network?

[restive umbra]

is your oil extractor clocked appropriately

[latent prawn]

when you have consumers at differing heights, you're creating a priority for the lower ones which throws off the 'fairness' of the pipe

piping rule #2: keep all consumers of a pipe network level

[wet moon]

whats the transfer rate of drones? planning a future development and i need to know

before i comit anything

[latent prawn]

9 stacks per trip

[wet moon]

and are they fast?

[latent prawn]

they can be

what are you transfering?

[earnest condor]

Depends on how far they fly and what you're shipping.

[wet moon]

actually I should be able to have more than one per route correct?

[wet moon]

just a little sulfur because im lazy

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[wet moon]

ah cool

[latent prawn]

you'll get about 200/min per drone

[wet moon]

so should be basically unlimited

[earnest condor]

1 per port though.
So if you want multiple delivering to point B, you need to have multiple ports at point A all targeting B.

[earnest condor]

If by "unlimited" you mean "throughput is capped by the singular belt on the port" then yes.

[wet moon]

lol

[wet moon]

ah, the drones are like having their home at the one they depart from?

and no other drones can touch it?

[earnest condor]

They have 1 home port, yes.

If you have a port A targeting B, the only way 2 drones are touching A is if you also make B target A back.

So in that way, you can have 2 drones on 1 route.
But if you want more than 2, you need 1 additional port per drone.

[hollow mango]

sorry just got back, there is an altitude raise in one spot its about 13 meters, the same is for the other 2 systems but they work fine

[thick cave]

Hi

[wet moon]

ok makes sense

thanks

[dense violet]

Make a post with overhead images of the layout

Your systems might be using an unreliable set up meaning it won’t always work

Or theres a small mistake

Post in qna

[worldly ember]

Is there a way to search the map to find where you are manufacturing an item? I thought you could do it on the Satisfactory calculator, but I can't see how.

[dense violet]

I think if you click on machines in SCIM to see what they are doing

[worldly ember]

It worked yesterday for assemblers and below. It did not show any info for manufacturers. Today it just shows a ? on all machines.

Not sure what changed.

[thick cave]

Satisfactory calculator shows you how much of x thing/min into y thing/min and how many machines you need to make x -> y most efficiently

[worldly ember]

I mean the SCIM

the interactive map

[thick cave]

Oh idk, I've never used it

[worldly ember]

I was going to post a screenshot, but it seems like they aren't allowed?

[dense violet]

Literally every other channel allows it

But you’re prob better off asking on the SCIM discord

[worldly ember]

Ok, fair enough. But just to be clear, there is no in game way to search for where you are manufacturing something, right?

I'm used to Factorio where it is easy.

[dense violet]

Nope

[worldly ember]

ok, I thought not, just wanted to make sure

[dense violet]

Make signs or keep notes if you can’t keep the areas in your brain

[worldly ember]

Yeah, I'm bad at that sort of thing, but understoood. I'll find the SCIM discord.

[quick hound]

today I learned that you can craft -500 singularity cells/m

[proud tinsel]

Guys hoe many verstile frame work do i need early game ?

[latent prawn]

they're only needed for the elevator deliveries. in phase 2 & 3, you'll need them naked, then for phase 4 and 5, for other elevator parts

total talies on how many of each elevator part you need are listed on the wiki

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Space_Elevator

[worn oar]

Anyone else love killing birds?

[worn oar]

3,500

[latent prawn]

according to the wiki, it is a total of 5390

[loud crag]

Perchance

[worn oar]

He said early game.

[proud tinsel]

Thanks guys

[vagrant gulch]

moin

[outer scarab]

how does hypertube branching work? i cant seem to get it to function

[sour cargo]

press E before the branch to change which you go through

[normal trench]

I just got the first floor of my factory done!

It’s so complicated though, but all tier one items are automated in it, on the second floor im producing tier 2 and 3

It uses so may alternate recipes so the numbers are incredibly funky

But 660 iron and 304 coal a minute for everything up to motors and modular frames is pretty good

And the numbers should be perfect, so hopefully I get the 100% Efficiency benchmark

[normal trench]

-500?

[crystal cobalt]

bo

wha tis tee sit

[normal trench]

What

[normal trench]

What do you mean by this

[crystal cobalt]

i told you

[normal trench]

I can’t understand it

Tee sit?

[twin parcel]

i was wondering why my nuclear plant fluctuating , only to realise i built 30 reactors instead of 20 .

fked it up badly lol

well i could just underclock it or cut of that extra 10 reactors

yeah i cut it off , i will build another 10 later for plutonium reactors

[lofty juniper]

why is there no vc channel for the discord server

[twin parcel]

sebab boleh dik (malaysian joke)

[sour cargo]

because there's no VC in this discord.

[twin parcel]

well , just friend req someone and vc with them lol

[rocky prawn]

because they dont have one.

[twin parcel]

do u think packager + unpackager limits water better than valve?

[jade parcel]

I think the next big expansion would be first. new tiers new production line maybe in combination with polished map expandation like underwater/ land or posabilty space + new planet like factorio that brings also new types of resscources

[twin parcel]

honestly i prefer them to add mechanics that make the map more interactable with the players and production lines .

[jade parcel]

A corpoation with helldiver would make sense also

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Is it possible to upgrade a conveyor belt from MK 1 to Mk 2 without replacing it?

[jade parcel]

Yes

[normal orbit]

just click on the mk1 belt with the mk2 selected on build gun

[rocky prawn]

whip out your tier 2 belt and look at the tier 1 belt and yo ucan just upgrade it.

[empty bridge]

thanks

[normal orbit]

can replace pretty much anything which has a upgrade or variant, like miners, splitters, mergers, pipes, etc

[outer scarab]

As there is only 2100/m uranium, I'm going to need like 4 of yall to join my game and manually load from personal mining drills into a cargo container so I can get it to 2200/m

[normal orbit]

why do you need 2200?

and if you do, just make more uranium with ore conversion

[outer scarab]

no i want slave labor

its just the idea of people mining uranium in a cave just so you can get a little more power

[rocky prawn]

you have to feed your slaves.
feed me pizza.

[outer scarab]

Ficsit pizza is what you will get and you will enjoy it's plastic texture

[rocky prawn]

i hate the cheap printed pizza.

[twin parcel]

hmm i made 300 turbo fuel /min for my drone network and even build a sink to measure the excess , even the sink throughput kinda questionable . i cant even tell whether i have excess turbo fuel or not

cuz i wanna use them for turbo diamonds later on .

[rigid wedge]

If the drones are always moving between ports u can add the fuel costs together maybe

[twin parcel]

well they are all over the map and there is around 80 drone ports i believe , if i assume each consume 5/min , definitely it will exceed 300/min , the fact that the sink line still sink some excess but couldnt get an average throughput from the throughput monitor means not all drones moving all the time . so its actually harder to tell .

[normal orbit]

dont output it to a sink, output the excess to a storage bin, time it over like half an hour or something and then count how much made it in there

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message

this screenshot is quite contradictory too , 1000+ throughput but im making 300/min

[normal orbit]

transfer rate is based on last delivery, if its built up before drone left the number will be inflated

[twin parcel]

there is like 7 different drones comes to this port to distribute to other biomes /factories.

[twin parcel]

alright , i just build a bin and time it then

[mortal coyote]

What's the point of a truck having 48 slots when maximum loading speed is just 120 items per minute? It would take 80 minutes to load a single truck

[twin parcel]

ur using which belt?

[sterile blade]

120 stacks per minute 😉

[mortal coyote]

The truck station says 120 per minute

Ohh stacks

WEll that changes everything!

[twin parcel]

nope

[mortal coyote]

New vehicle paths are awesome

[sterile blade]

I can't wait to play 1.2, but I also dread the period of not having mods

... And I now just had the perfect idea as to how to find something to do in game without mods during the wait...
Nice

[twin parcel]

if i suddenly switch fuel from turbofuel to plutonium rods , will the drone ports automatically replaces the fuel type? like truck station

[dense violet]

manually replace the drone fuel internally

[twin parcel]

so i have to change the fuel for every drone port manually?

[normal orbit]

it should load what fuel is available, its all converted to an energy number inside the drone

[kind rose]

Am I unique in my idea that my base should look non functional and incomprehensible

[normal orbit]

yea, no mixing fuel doesnt work

oh wait, maybe

yeah you can mix fuels

its not ideal, but the drone will take whatever

the last fuel loaded seems to dictate speed

#screenshots message this works

so you can just change the input fuel on the distribution port and it should eventually replace itself

[torpid estuary]

I need help with the blueprint auto connect feature. How do I avoid redundant / fragmented belts?
See: #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

its inevitable? whats the problem

2 segments but so what

[twin parcel]

oh im just gonna switch to plutonium rods , but ofc it will take a while for the auxiliary drones to completely change to plutonium rods , so it will be in mix fuel states for a while

[vestal ridge]

Any1 know why E key breaks after opening portable miner? in experimental

[twin parcel]

no idea ,

alright lemme try ,

[dense violet]

1.2 bug

[vestal ridge]

anyway to fix cause it rlly annoying not being able to use portable

[dense violet]

afaik , not being in 1.2

common issue

[vestal ridge]

.

[twin parcel]

yeah the bug is bad , cant even build anything or use my gun after placing the miners

[dense violet]

save and reload maybe?

[vestal ridge]

yuh

it works but u still gotta reload which takes time

and if u open miner it jus does it again

[dense violet]

yup. another reason I never do exp branch

[vestal ridge]

and if u have 80 miners than..

[dense violet]

I mean if you have 80 miners you're already causing yourself tons of extra pain. What's a little more?

[twin parcel]

just use hands i guess

[dense violet]

You obviously like torturing yourself

[vestal ridge]

..

I FIGURED OUT HOW TO NOT GET BUGGED

[green fiber]

EXP being EXP

[vestal ridge]

if u grab items from miner and pick it up thn place it back it dosent bug

[green fiber]

any reason you dont have actual miners placed yet

2x cost and cant unlock the milestone yet?

[dense violet]

self torture, we covered that

[vestal ridge]

started new world and just placed it on sam

[green fiber]

odd. you need other matrials to process / do stuff with SAM so getting to smelters / constructors / automated miners ASAP should be a priority

[vestal ridge]

im hand crafting sam fluctuators

cant be bored getting it out that ravine

[green fiber]

its just a bunch of vertical lifts

[vestal ridge]

yes ik but still I wont automate sam fluctuators yet

so whats the point

[dense violet]

I always enjoy it when people do more work to be lazy. Belt to container and it does it itself

[vestal ridge]

when I start automating them ill get it out

[astral moth]

What's exp?

[green fiber]

the entire point was that you could avoid this portable miner issue entirely that way

[vestal ridge]

experimental

[dense violet]

experimental branch

[vestal ridge]

yes ik but I figured out the bug after I placed them..

[astral moth]

So is it a game mode

[dense violet]

no, it's the new update being tested before released as the main game

[astral moth]

Nice

[dense violet]

anyone not on experimental branch is playing the full released game
anyoen on the branch can try out the new update before release

[astral moth]

I want to play this game after I've finished with alchemy factory

[dense violet]

Satisfactory is a solid game if you like open world sand box games

[astral moth]

Yeah I've played before but never had the time to finish the game

I think the furthest I got was like

Around the fuel packagers

I was going to switch energy

[dense violet]

well the tiers are kinda like a tutorial in any case. The phases aren't actually challenging. The messiest factories will limp you there

[astral moth]

To gasoline or something

[dense violet]

there's a lot more you can do with your own projects. More like minecraft

[astral moth]

Yeah I think I made a hub and wanted to automate every item in the game and send it there

[wet moon]

I really hate that the train stations are soooooo big

Pretty anoyying that you need to always spend 10-20 minutes making an area big enough, and then making sure you can get all the turn radiuses to work out before you can get to building the actual factory its supplying

[mortal ginkgo]

They only look large because you probably dont decorate.

#screenshots message

My station is inside and you can figure out smol it is

[torpid estuary]

it just uses an unecessary amount of uobjects and I don't think it helps performance either especially over the network

it flat out doubles the amount of objects the game needs to deal with per tick

and if you want to upgrade the belts you have to clicke twice as often. If a wrong items gets on there, you have to remove them twice as often etc.

[fluid sapphire]

dont put wrong items on it, and dont upgrade it?

[restive umbra]

then don’t use auto connect

[fluid sapphire]

very minor effect on performance unless you are building tens of thousands of these

[outer scarab]

Purity: Temp ???? what????

[fluid sapphire]

placeholder for node clusters

[restive umbra]

yeah the blueprints themselves will have waaaaaayyyy more belt segments/serialized objects

[mortal ginkgo]

when there are too many in one place, you get Temp.

you are modded and have them all in one place soooooo

[dense violet]

making the bottom floor of a factory the train station is a good way to minimise foot print

[torpid estuary]

just how many more?

[outer scarab]

i like having a single floor between floors for belts and pipes

[torpid estuary]

what ballpark are we talking about

[restive umbra]

depends on how you make your blueprints

that auto connect belt is basically not a performance consideration whatsoever though

a drop in an ocean

[torpid estuary]

hmmm

I still find it annoying

[normal orbit]

my 40 stacks of constructors have like 100 belt segments/lifts into it. having two belts instead of one between them is such a non issue

[restive umbra]

valid

[green fiber]

the game groups belts during calculation anyway

[oblique cape]

Ficsit tobacco when?

[restive umbra]

Lung/mouth cancer is NOT efficient

[fiery root]

fellas i may be blind, but how can i auto connect my blueprints with already existing structures

[normal orbit]

ficsit prob dont want mainly useless workers who keep going on smoke breaks, so never :p

[dense violet]

you need open belt/pipe/rail connections for them to connect

[twin parcel]

trains are for megafactory bro , if ur factory is smoll , just use tractors or trucks lol

[green fiber]

depends on the distance actually

trains are for long distance high throughput usually.
trucks / tractors are for smaller ranges, usually around 1500 m - 2000m

with the 1.2 path changes, it may be a bit more competetive.
But it still applies

something like west coast oil field to grass fields or rocky desert is a perfectly fine range for trucks imo

[twin parcel]

yeah i stopped using trains and trucks now , got a problem ? slap in the drones , not enough ? just add one more , lol . fuel ? plutonium rods does the trick .

[green fiber]

its a matter of taste

[lone reef]

is it normal that the conveyor throughput sometimes displays 1199 instead of 1200 or did i just f$k up?

[normal orbit]

if it shows 1199 theres been a gap somewhere on the belt

[lone reef]

oh ffs

[dense violet]

don't trust the numbers on them or the efficiency meters. Sometimes they are right. Sometimes they don't represent reality

look at yoru machines, are they getting yellow stutters?

[lone reef]

im gonna trust you to keep my sanity

[lone reef]

i dont think so

[normal orbit]

open the monitor interface and check graph

[dense violet]

those are the most reliable ways to see if a system is working poorly

[lone reef]

you can do that??

[normal orbit]

yes

[lone reef]

oke its working fine now

thank god

[dense violet]

it was likely working fine before.

[normal orbit]

it does an average over a minute, if it keeps dipping to 1199 there might be an issue somewhere on the supply side

[lone reef]

ahh i think i know what it is

i changed 1 pipe for a quick second

so thats prob what caused it

[normal orbit]

could be

[dense violet]

eeeehhh there's usually enough items in internal machine buffers for that to not be an issue

[lone reef]

nah

i dont do overflow

[dense violet]

you realistically cannot load balance fluids and should really flood the systems

[lone reef]

try me 😛

[dense violet]

unles you set up pipes in very specific ways , it's a pretend load balancer

[lone reef]

i hate fluids

[dense violet]

they are very simple if you keep them simple

and it sounds like you're tryign to do very unsimple things with them

[lone reef]

nah just big yk

i always count 1 thing wrong

then i have to delete half the factory

[dense violet]

one of the ways to keep pipes simple is to keep them in their own small chunks

[leaden turret]

-# [insert joke where "pipette" is the punchline here]

[dense violet]

I've had enough chemistry in my life 😛

[restive umbra]

Built a cable factory last night and finally decided to give a rip about decorating

It’s super ugly but it’s mine ❤️

[leaden turret]

• babies ✅
• factories ✅

[wet moon]

alr ur build is just crazy

[wet moon]

thats a good idea, for me though I just have a single factory kinda divided into segments, so generally everything of a single production stays on a single floor and I just expand that floor outwards as necessary

[wet moon]

eh debateable, trucks are just too annoyying to use, rather build the train and not need to worry about much

[quick verge]

I agree, especially on my personal point that my map is covered with conveyors and that the truck cannot go 25 meters without being blocked by spaghetti-like conveyors. The train is superior.

[wet moon]

yeah, you have to build bridges anyways, so better to just build a track on the bridge

[mortal coyote]

Wow you can fly on the manta and you can pet it?! best game ever

[latent prawn]

yeah, wish the patpats did something though

[unkempt blade]

they let it know you love it and that's the important part

[native isle]

i got a question. Im around where you unlock tractors now and i wonderd, is it too early to start a base where all my stuff gets delivered to? So that i wont have to do so much collecting?

Cus it would take a while to set up and idk if it smart this early on

[earnest condor]

Never too early.

[next ivy]

its as smart as you want it to be

[native isle]

hmm ok thanks

another thing tho. Is it good to cover the entire map in floors?

[dense violet]

if you like having a ton of pressure on your computer resources, sure

but also, delivering everything to once spot is almsot certainly going to be a huge mess

[native isle]

thats what i was thinking yea

[dense violet]

especially if you don't have a specific end goal you've planned for

[native isle]

so it probably best to do like a half version of it until im further right?

[dense violet]

half version?

[native isle]

like only deliver stuff that is rly far away

and keep most just organized

[dense violet]

well, the tiers and milestones are basically a tutorial for you to learn the basics

and the game forces you to expand out.
imo the game really starts when you unlock everything and you now have a sandbox you can make concrete plans for

[native isle]

hmmm makes sense

[dense violet]

more like minecraft than other automation game

infinite resources, by the time you unlock everything you're making infinite components to do whatever you like

and, hopefully, have gained all the basic skills you need 🙂

the game does a good job trickling new ideas

[earnest condor]

<Alan Rickman Snape voice>

Then again... it seems some of you have come to Massage-AB-B with abilities so formidable you feel confident enough to NOT. PAY. ATTENTION.

😏

[sleek delta]

the game doesn't do enough to teach you how to beat doggos with the basher

[native isle]

i always wanna beat these tall ahh mfs

idk something about them standing INSIDE MY BUILD annoys me

[sleek delta]

need to find a way to frame disabling ticks and manta rays as an accessibility issue

if only there was an equivalent phobia of manta rays as spiders lol

[leaden turret]

-# is just called mantaphobia

[sleek delta]

(i'm probably biased because i actually do suffer arachnophobia and have done a lot of reading into that one)

[oblique cape]

Then why is there a can of "Corporate Approved" Ficsit SNUS in the hub?

[normal orbit]

Snus doesn't make you take a smoke break every 20 minutes

[oblique cape]

Thats what I meant by tobacco

[quiet mortar]

alcohol is the best drug

[torpid estuary]

I might have run into a bug where I can't get the last alt recipe:
#screenshots message

also the UI says on the left that one rescan is remaining and on the right it says there aren't any left

[quiet mortar]

wdym

[torpid estuary]

I selected one of the recipes and wanted to scan the next hard drive

[quiet mortar]

What should happen is

[torpid estuary]

but that now gives me this screen:

[quiet mortar]

that the last recipe appears without having to scan the drive

[torpid estuary]

#screenshots message

[torpid estuary]

really?

[quiet mortar]

Go into the library recipe again

[torpid estuary]

indeed. It is present and accounted for

[torpid estuary]

I am getting the feeling they cheaped out on that feature because only 2% of players are ever gonna get that far anyway

[quiet mortar]

Wdym

[normal orbit]

save and load, then you can scan it

[quiet mortar]

wrong

[normal orbit]

also doing a milestone unlock usually fixes it so you can scan for last recipe

[torpid estuary]

I can't unlock any more milestones

[torpid estuary]

actually Neko is right

[quiet mortar]

What

for me the last recipe just was available to pick

after i scanned the last hard drive

[torpid estuary]

same for me

yet when I save and load I can continue scanning

[earnest condor]

This is why I don't unlock Jump Pads until Phase 5.
It is my back-up milestone to ensure I can scan the final drive. 😁

[quiet mortar]

ohhhhhh

[earnest condor]

I believe they fixed the issue in 1.2 though.

[normal orbit]

yea its not an issue on experimental atm

[torpid estuary]

I am on experimental 😭

[quiet mortar]

is it really an issue

[torpid estuary]

wdym

everything I described happened as I described it

if anything, the UI error is an issue at the very least

[quiet mortar]

but if the last recipe is there anyway

why do you need to scan another hard drive

[torpid estuary]

the way it behaves towards the player screams bug

but, again, they cheapened out on it because almost nobody is gonna make it this far anyway

100%

[normal orbit]

the bug when you pick the last recipe out of two, there should be one left to scan for, but the game will say there no more available. That is the bug, if you save and load, the game will let you scan it, also unlocking a milestone will allow you to scan it withotu having to save/load. This is currently fixed afaik on experimental where it just lets you scan the drive for the last recipe. At no point does it just give you last one for free without having to scan a drive for it.

[quiet mortar]

[torpid estuary]

It is not fixed. I am on experimental.

[normal orbit]

are you actually last one in phase 5?

if yes, then hit qa site and report it

[torpid estuary]

I have finished game, got the credits and everything

[normal orbit]

yea, should report it then

[torpid estuary]

And I did indeed get the last recipe for free just as Fishy said it would happen

fwiw, the hdd finished and this is what I got:
#screenshots message

which is ok because previously I chose the leached copper ingot

but I already have the charcoal recipe

[toxic lichen]

how do you dismantle a blueprint thats been placed?

scrap 1 by 1 or like
can i scrap the whole thing

[normal orbit]

press R

[toxic lichen]

r

oooo

[normal orbit]

when dismantling...

[toxic lichen]

fancy ty

[glossy scarab]

What is wrong with my save???

#screenshots

none of them work!!!

i think i fixed it

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[spiral quail]

game development's difficulty is unfathomable to me because I've never done it

but man I really want to get back into satisfactory but I want to wait until 1.2 is out of experimental

i keep getting REMINDED OF IT

[sleek delta]

not that long now...

[dense violet]

unless you're wanting to do a TON of crap with trucks there isn't that much of a change, just start now

[earnest condor]

Play it on Experiemental. 😏

[spiral quail]

i don't wanna

oh right the other condition i set for myself was I wanted to make it a coop world

but I'll figure that half out when 1.2 comes out

[ornate saffron]

Summer break is not far

[spiral quail]

i'm an adult j*bber

[ornate saffron]

Alot of the dev team takes vaca in the summer. So most of us think it will be out by then

[spiral quail]

idk why I even said anything here seems pointless talking about trying to not play the game yet in the chat that's about playing the game

ah i see

[mint cradle]

Havent played in a week but now it’s the weekend and schools practically done

[unkempt blade]

did the AI pass your AP testt for you?

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Any reason why the fuse on one of my coal power stations blows ever so often?

[sour cargo]

Fuse blow when power consumption is more than production

[quick hound]

It gets a little too excited

[empty bridge]

strange thing is that everything is in production and there are no changes to anything

[sour cargo]

Well that's not how that works ...
You either have a problem in your power production, or you have something that makes power consumption spike every now and then

[tawny quest]

I finished my turbo fuel plant yesterday and now i have 20k watts of power but im stuck on how to progress next

[sour cargo]

Batteries can help mitigate, but that won't fix the underlying issue @empty bridge

[sour cargo]

Space elevator

[mint cradle]

It might’ve been the easiest ap test of all time

Like no joke finished 80 question in 40 min and the frqs were easy too

[empty bridge]

Is it possible to zoom in the view at all?

[gleaming wasp]

would yall prefer it if by the end of the game all resources were able to be infinitely produced?

kinda like power shards where you can start using them before the tutorial is over but at the end of the game you can start mass producing them

that but for spheres and sloops

[worn oar]

Is 10 motors/minute enough to finish the game in a reasonable amount of time? This iron motor project is starting to get out of hand

[reef basin]

heavily depends what you use the motors on and what is your definition of reasonable time

[worn oar]

The majority will be used on fuel generators, and reasonable time would be within 150 hours from start to finish. Currently 23 hours in, 1/3rd through phase 3

I can potentially come back to double it with slugs without doing a lot more work after I have aluminum unlocked

[gleaming wasp]

short answer: no
long answer: yes if you're okay with a ton of your machines having an uptime of like 3%

[worn oar]

Darn

[gleaming wasp]

wait 150h?

then absolutely not

[worn oar]

How many? 60? 120? 1200?

[gleaming wasp]

60 is okay if you want a modest factory

[lapis knot]

If you type in the item on the codex by pressing "O" you can see how many recipies it's required in and if you unlocked them, how many /m input they need so estimate based on that

[gleaming wasp]

the most extreme i have seen go to about 300

[reef basin]

I'd say anything above 30 is overkill

[worn oar]

Ok thanks guys

I'll do 20 and come back after I have more power

[gleaming wasp]

until the very end of the game?

[reef basin]

sure

[lapis knot]

Like for example heavy modular frames are like the first major complex 4 step item but only require like 1/min in a manufactorer later for larger factories so having like 50/min is enough etc

[reef basin]

again, 30/min is probably overkill

[restive umbra]

I have 30 motors/min going into a couple depots so I can spam refineries and gennies

[worn oar]

My problem is I don't like when my factories are constrained down by belt speed, so I prefer to have mk5 or mk6 belts before making anything huge lol

[gleaming wasp]

actually in all fairness with 30/m you can make 6 ||ballistic warp drives||

that's quite reasonable

i stand corrected

[lapis knot]

Judging based on how many recipes the item is used for throughout the game is generally a good base point for ball parking the amount you actually need to make, but thats only really if you've got a load of hard drives and can actually see the recepies and alt recepies in the codex

[restive umbra]

make multiple shorter manifolds instead of everything in one big one

[reef basin]

BWD factory will make its own motors

[gleaming wasp]

oh wait hold up

[low helm]

I'd say (almost) any item over 30/min is overkill for purely completing the game.

High numbers generally are because you want to do it as a project

[gleaming wasp]

nevermind it can make 3.333_ a minute

[worn oar]

I usually make space elevator parts in their own separate factories that either grab ore or ingots. I don't hate building, just slow belts :)

[gleaming wasp]

well do you want to just complete the game or do you want big, flashy factories that make tons of items?

[worn oar]

I ONLY want to complete the game, as I've gone 580 hours without completing it

[gleaming wasp]

because i agree that 30 is aight if you just want to do your own thing and not optimize anything

[restive umbra]

same…. 😬

[gleaming wasp]

but if you want something big and flashy then you might want to dream bigger

anyways are you using the default motor recipie?

[lapis knot]

Then 30/min should be fine xd

[gleaming wasp]

i'd argue rigor motors are far better

but then again it's down to personal taste

[reef basin]

there's nothing like "better" recipe 😛

[restive umbra]

cast screws 🙂

[reef basin]

no, that's not "better"

[gleaming wasp]

all recipies are equal, but some are more equal than others

[worn oar]

Alternate for heavy modular frames also

[lapis knot]

I'm a steel screws enjoyer

[restive umbra]

Very well!

[worn oar]

It is quite literally an upgrade with no downside though

[low helm]

Who needs HMF alts anyway ;)

[reef basin]

downside is that you cannot use rod alts

[lapis knot]

I was mind blown when I saw that steel screws alt recipe for the first time

[gleaming wasp]

also may i offer that diluted fuel and HOR are goated

[gleaming wasp]

wait is it really that good?

[earnest condor]

Electric Motor though.

[lapis knot]

Yeah

[worn oar]

10 GW from just one normal oil node 🤤

[gleaming wasp]

my beloved

[earnest condor]

Steel Screw and Caterium Wire are both amazing for compression.

[gleaming wasp]

wait i've done the maths for this

[worn oar]

Caterium wire is underrated if you really need to use fewer resources

[lapis knot]

The sheer amount of screws steel screws makes is ridiculous

[reef basin]

in some definition of "good" 🙂

as "good" is defined per player 😛

[earnest condor]

Electric for me is not about maths. It's about simplicity of combining it with Turbo Electric.

[lapis knot]

I mean it's "good" in terms of per minute output compared to the other screw recipes 🙂

But does require some steel setup before hand

[reef basin]

sure, so it's "good" for those who care about per-machine production

[gleaming wasp]

for 10 electric motors, you need 7.5 stators and 10 rotors

[lapis knot]

And if they don't? What would be beter then?

[gleaming wasp]

for 10 rigors, you need 5 of each

it seems small, but makes a massive difference when you scale it up

[reef basin]

• depends on player preferences and goals
• and still doesn't make sense to compare recipes directly, you need to compare whole recipe chains, or you end up saying false things like "cast screws are always better than normal screws")

[lapis knot]

I mean yeah, any recipe is great just depends on what situation you're using it for 🙂

[reef basin]

basically that

[earnest condor]

Electric x10 = 10 Rotor + 5 ECR
5 ECR = 5 Stator + 2.5 HSC
Meaning Electric x10 = 10 Rotor + 5 Stator.

Rigor x10 = 5 Rotor, 5 Stator, 1.66- Oscillator.

Cancel out like terms:
Electric vs Rigor is-
5 Rotor + 2.5 HSC vs. 1.66- Oscillator

[gleaming wasp]

thats it

we're moving this to math-and-meta

[mint cradle]

Without blender how

[reef basin]

blenders don't change anything about that

[mint cradle]

Mb that’s diluted fuel

So what’s the setup with hor and diluted packaged

[reef basin]

basically the same

[empty bridge]

Is there a way of keeping the time during the day?

[worn oar]

HOR recipe, diluted fuel, sink or use the polymer

[low helm]

Don't think so, but the days aren't linear anyway. Nights are only 5 minutes and days 14 minutes or something like that (can't remember the exact numbers)

[radiant forum]

do you have a feeling of someone watching you, when you playing alone in Satisfactory? That's not a fauna, that's a someone, but not player

[worn oar]

That's Katarina Parks, FICSIT's greatest CEO, watching down on you from heaven

[radiant forum]

ok, i just wanted to do a creepy question, but you turned my question into joke🤣

[worn oar]

ADA is also closely monitoring your hopes and dreams for signs of deviancy.

Oh god oh no my power grid

I'm so glad I made 3 hours of power storage

[gleaming wasp]

yeah also for the ensured continued existence of puppies and/or kittens

[radiant forum]

ok, i got sometimes scared because, something strange, like Herobrine from Minecraft, maybe i got flashbacks from creppypasta, and i barricaded myself to box of concrete with Crafting bench

(PLS DON'T TURN THAT INTO JOKE)

[gleaming wasp]

may i advise that you NEVER go in the top-left portion of the map in that case?

youre gonna hate it

[radiant forum]

that thing are very far from his victim, but it can see his victim very well

[worn oar]

It's called paradise island as an oxymoron. Best to stay on the other side of the waterfall.

[gleaming wasp]

well it isnt an oxymoron for people who's dream is to simultaneously be irradiated, poisoned, swarmed and burned

[gleaming wasp]

as SOON as i'm unlocking the nuke nobelisk that thing is being destroyed

[sleek delta]

so my fiancee passed away in 2024 a few months before satis 1.0 released and i stream the game to youtube because some sentimental part of me believes she gets to watch that way

OK LOOK IM SORRY FOR KILLING CHAT COME BACK

[gleaming wasp]

tbh i really like that idea

its a really sweet way to honour her memory

[sleek delta]

sometimes the viewer count is 2

(they're largely unlisted videos)

😰

[gleaming wasp]

whats your username? (if you don't mind me asking ofc)

or do you prefer to keep it private?

[sleek delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxeiFRFx0i8

hilariously 1 segment after this i threw the run because trucks kept managing to find incredible new ways to fuck themselves up in my save

[gleaming wasp]

sick base, i am personally a large fan of the circular design you got going on

[sleek delta]

ah yeah the community has done a shit ton more with circular stuff in the interim few months i haven't played

the 1 degree rotation in vanilla stuff

[mint cradle]

Dont you need canisters for the packaged diluted fuel

[sleek delta]

really gotta find time to play a post-1.1 run w/ arcs on belts/pipes/etc

[worn oar]

Yes

Or blender

But as a closed loop system, you can just make the amount of canisters you need and throw them in, instead of constantly adding more

@mint cradle #screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

I have exact setup slooped up, I have put canisters inside packagers and 600 is enough for this setup

[astral moth]

What's yall thoughts on the satisfactory factory planner, because I feel like if you use it your basically playing blueprint builder simulator, but idk I get some people need help with math

[mortal ginkgo]

Its a good startup for dilluted thats for sure

[worn oar]

I think the majority of people use some kind of planner. But there's a guy here who plans all the math and factories manually on graph paper. Legend.

[astral moth]

I thought most people did it manually or in spreadsheets icl.
Planning factories is 3/4 of the game, building is only a quarter

[worn oar]

I disagree

[lapis knot]

I plan everything out on my microwave

It can also run doom

[mortal ginkgo]

Holy based absolutely zero cap fr fr big DAWG

[astral moth]

Oof, if your just gonna use a tool that makes the factory for you though, why even play a factory game in the first place

Like minecraft would be superior in every way

[lapis knot]

Thanks b0ss

[worn oar]

Absolutely true and accurate statement. I'm the power outlet for the microwave.

[lapis knot]

Thats like saying you're not allowed to use the blueprint designer

[astral moth]

Does that just copy paste your own builds

[lapis knot]

Yeah

[worn oar]

To build, explore, unlock, exploit. What kind of ridiculous question is this?

[astral moth]

Then it's not the same

[lapis knot]

You make a factory once and you can just paste it around

[astral moth]

My point is the huge appeal in factory games is planning the factories out, doing the ratios etc

[worn oar]

For you

[lapis knot]

I like making the buildings

[astral moth]

Having a tool that just gives you the entire design is just building simulator

[worn oar]

And?

[lapis knot]

I unironically spend more time making trainlines and buildings in my world than planning factories

[astral moth]

Nought, but I think your a minority

[worn oar]

There is still hundreds of hours of satisfying gameplay even if you went extreme and used other people's blueprints

[worn oar]

No shot at all

[astral moth]

How do you know though

[worn oar]

Simple logic, look at how many people use satisfactory modeler.

And that's just one of the many tools available

[astral moth]

This just sounds like justification tbh

I don't judge

I get it, math isn't for everyone

[lapis knot]

Yeah but also look how many just spam sky platforms and hyperfocus on maths and machines completely ignoring building anything pretty too xd

[worn oar]

You just did judge, heavily and in a condescending manner.

[lapis knot]

Each to their own I guess

[worn oar]

There are 1000 people using satisfactory modeler right now

[astral moth]

I accept there's a divide, between those who do the math themselves and those who use online tools

[worn oar]

Get off your ivory tower and accept that people find different things fun

Some people mainly want to explore and use the factory as a means to do that better

[lapis knot]

You could look at it as a way of being a more efficent pioneer for Ficsit!

[astral moth]

Lol

[worn oar]

Some people like cheating (e.g. more somersloops) and just making gigantic builds that wouldn't be possible in vanilla. That's also a valid way to play.

[lapis knot]

The game is about efficiency after all

[frosty sedge]

I use external resources but find it a little cheap for me

[astral moth]

All I did was call it out for what it was ngl, people who do math, people who use online tools.

If your getting angry over that then idk what to say

[worn oar]

No one is angry. I'm calling out your condescending attitude, and you don't like it so you're trying and failing to turn it back around on me.

You are MORE than welcome to play exactly how you like. One of the beauties of this game.

[lapis knot]

I mean the game is a creative medium at this point, but at surface level a lot still see it as just a one and done factory game and only play it once or a few times

[mortal ginkgo]

Well everyone is playing wrong if they are not having PRETTY factories now THAT is a fact indeed brothermen.

[astral moth]

I think your interpreting it as condescending because using online tools is phrased as the lazier option. But I never stated that.

[lapis knot]

People have made incredible stuff in this game and also amazingly complex factories

[worn oar]

I will continue to desecrate the landscape with my foundationless spaghetti and big orange boxes inshallah 🙏🏻

[lapis knot]

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE SSSSSSSSHHHHHH WOFF WOFF

[worn oar]

Dammit why did my compacted coal setup stop D:

[mortal ginkgo]

They dont want to be compact anymore it seems.

[lapis knot]

Expanding coal

[worn oar]

So if finishing phase 3 took between 7.4-9.1 GW of power, how much is phase 4 going to take? I want to know if I should be terrified or not

[gleaming wasp]

lot more brother

[worn oar]

100 GW?

[lapis knot]

300GW?

[worn oar]

Holy cow really

[lapis knot]

I mean if you go into chernobyl power you'll be fine

[worn oar]

😭

[lapis knot]

Nuclear plants and producion lines give loads or you could always go into rocket fuel 😄

[worn oar]

Current goal is have one of each type of power plant, but I guess I'll need a lot more rocket fuel

[rigid wedge]

Ur saying that from your own standpoint as if everyone would have the same view

[astral moth]

I was asking a question, and got an answer

From someone with a different viewpoint

Case resolved

[rigid wedge]

The part after the question is why you get criticized

[worn oar]

Dp we really need to rehash this?

[astral moth]

A game popularised for building

With more creative freedom

I don't see the problem with suggesting it

[rigid wedge]

I’ve got a few minutes to waste

[astral moth]

Well don't

Some people play this game for exploration and building but feel called out if you mention their neglectance to doing math themselves because our educational system would typically associate such behaviour with negative tendency. So they interprete it as an insult or condescending leading to a useless quaral that has the same outcome.

[next ivy]

we could turn this around and say: "is math really such a challenge to you?"
most people probably use planners cuz math is easy but tedious

[worn oar]

*quarrel

[astral moth]

Thanks

[next ivy]

almost like the whole game is easy but tedious
noticing a trend

[astral moth]

I didn't have a problem if people found it challenging, I just assumed it was a major aspect of the gameplay, as with other factory games

[next ivy]

all those other games also have planners

[rigid wedge]

Ofc it’s interpreted like that if you talk down on people like ur better

[next ivy]

and a good amount of people using those planners

[astral moth]

You just fell into the trap that i explained in the last half

[rigid wedge]

What ur apparently trying to say isn’t the issue but the arrogant way you phrase it

[astral moth]

No ones saying they are better, you see "neglecting math" as some negative aspect and reflect of your own capability, which leads you to interpret it negatively

[rigid wedge]

And ur just trying to look down on others for no reason

[astral moth]

It's simply education conditioning

[rigid wedge]

You need some emotional conditioning

Anyways few minutes over gn

[astral moth]

Welp, thanks for proving the statement

[astral moth]

True, I've stopped looking for them though so idk of industrialist does

I was making my own for industrialist actually with a recipe selection menu

[next ivy]

oh lol roblox, feck off

[astral moth]

But I couldn't decide if making the planner would be as fun as doing it manually every time

[astral moth]

Judge a book by its cover

Unironically industrialist is one of the best factory games I've played, for its complexity and real world application

[next ivy]

so you like automation games, but not automating automation games ?

[astral moth]

I did the algorithms, the issue is completing it would just require inputting the recipe database and sorting some dominating recipe function to remove less favourable ones

But if I finished it I would just be copying designs from an online tool at the end of the day

[next ivy]

then dont be lazy

[astral moth]

Well that's why I didn't finish it

[spare barn]

am i the only one that thinks nukes aiN't as strong and covering as much space as they suppossed to be?

nukes feel weak af in comparison to the hard work u put in it

[astral moth]

I actually haven't ever used them

[spare barn]

are they exclusive for 1.2?

[quaint cedar]

who can give me a good guide on a decent starter factory that gets everything from phase 1 till phase 3

[leaden turret]

yeah there'sa cluster of explodable rocks in crater lakes, I used a nuke on them and it didn't blow them all up.

[reef basin]

nobody

because what you described can be anything from a few machines to 1000s of machines

[spare barn]

weak af ong i feel like throwing bunch of cluster nobelisk is better than nukes

[quaint cedar]

like the decent ipm not thousands
and I'm looking for a yt video but I can't seem to find

[reef basin]

well, you need to decide on your goals, how much of which item you want, what recipes to use, which locations to build in

and at that point what you have is so specific that no guide covers it

[lapis knot]

You could try making some placeable factory blueprints like ones Yakez makes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98RsqRbncM

[spare barn]

get a mod for blueprint maker v4

[lapis knot]

Its like 1 building but makes like 11 items for tiers so just do that for 3 tiers

[spare barn]

why no lol @reef basin

[reef basin]

why yes?

[quaint cedar]

well I have a goal, which is getting out of phase 2
but my main problem is not knowing how much ipm I should be doing on most items and for location and stuff I have a good one

[reef basin]

mk3 is already big enough for practically anything you want

[spare barn]

i can't fit what i wanna build in mk3

not for me ig

[rigid wedge]

I would recommend you do 1 thing at a time otherwise you might find urself a bit overwhelmed

[quaint cedar]

ty

[reef basin]

well, for most things you only need a few per minute at most.

[reef basin]

you aren't supposed to fit whole factory in it

you're supposed to build small modules that connect to each other

[quaint cedar]

I'm kinda overwhelmed already lol, I moved my base to a better location but now I need to make a factory that covers most stuff

[spare barn]

i know greeny. i know im not suppossed to fit the whole factory in it.

[rigid wedge]

Then do 1 thing at a time otherwise ur gonna go mental

[spare barn]

do you suppose someone asking for a mk.4 doesn't know that? 🤔

[reef basin]

there's never a reason to move anything. Building elsewhere? sure, go do it. But moving just costs extra time for no benefit

[rigid wedge]

It doesn’t have to be 1 factory in 1 place doing everything

[lapis knot]

Any mk5 enjoyers here?

[spare barn]

mk7 belts, mk5 pipes and mk 6 minres

🫰

possibly mk2 drones cos these are so ahh

[abstract heron]

oh its marv

[quaint cedar]

should I load an older save and just move my items?
I honestly just moved because messy factories get me on my nerves and I get burned easily seeing any messes

[reef basin]

keep factories around, they will still make items. Hook them to depots or to your storage (whichever are you doing)

(though ofc you can dismantle if you really want, but it's generally just using time to have less production, which seems kinda counterproductive 🙂 )

[quaint cedar]

ty
I'll just work with what I got until I max my depot's then make a clean base

[quaint cedar]

I honestly don't want to dismantle since I have decent factories (,10 rotor reinforced iron plate and modular frame factories) and I need to get the basics
I do NOT know how did I get to this stage without the basics

[reef basin]

then don't dismantle 🙂

keep it around, factory can last the whole save and make you items all the time

[quaint cedar]

tysm (ik my questions were stupid but I needed to be answered even tho I knew the answer)

[primal obsidian]

when do I get to do crewed Jupiter landing

[worn oar]

That's Kerbin Sphere Program, totally different game

What is the best ADA voiceline and why is it train unlock?

[lapis knot]

Choo choo mother * * * * * *

[abstract heron]

working on my hrs 19,620 hrs on record

[worn spoke]

How do I import blueprints into 1.2?

[low helm]

Damn you slackin' 😝

Weren't you already at 16k a year ago?

[white dawn]

They should just already be there, but remember that they're saved per save, not globally

[worn spoke]

like externally? from the internet etc

[white dawn]

I think that #welcome has the info on where they're stored, if you want to move them between saves

[abstract heron]

i think so but with 31c as of now on monday i wanna play in Summer heat but TO FRICKING HOT

IRL temp goes

[low helm]

Yeah it can get pretty toasty with those ambient temps

[white dawn]

No, on your hard drive (in fact they don't sync to cloud saves), but they are per save. If you want to use the same blueprints on a new save, you've got to copy them over

[worn spoke]

Ah OK so I can only use blueprints that I make myself?

[low helm]

I still have a bit to go before it gets that hot here luckily

[worn spoke]

I'm wondering more about blueprints that other people have made - do I still need mods to do that? (I ask cos I don't think mods work yet in 1.2)

[abstract heron]

i am going to see if it can get cooler with 2 fans IRL fans that is

[fierce granite]

#faq has the location for the blueprints folder in, so once you make one in the current save, it will make a folder for that session, and you can place blueprints that you get from other saves or from other people in that folder to get them to load into that save.

[spare barn]

bruh is it me or trucks gets hella slow when approaching ramps?

like it goes 90km/h and as soon as even a 1 m ramp comes in, its down to 30km/h?

[sacred mist]

what service do you guys use to host middle or late game saves

[quiet mortar]

We use indifferent brocolli

were phase 5

[sacred mist]

im using that thing its starting to lag

[quiet mortar]

oh what

Well i guess its a little laggy

But i dont mind at all

[sacred mist]

the save is massive lol

[quiet mortar]

How massive

[sacred mist]

look at the #screenshots i uploaded an overview there from SCIM

[quiet mortar]

yeah i saw

i also posted our save

its very playable

idk

[mint cradle]

Why are fluids so janky

[quiet mortar]

I think cause theyre actually doing some amount of fluid simulation inside of the pipe

[normal orbit]

prob cause players tend to overcomplicate them a lot :p

[quiet mortar]

im not sure tho

[quaint cedar]

is there any satisfactory modeler without a pc

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[errant laurel]

is there a bug that doesn't make coupons more expensive?

[quiet mortar]

yeah that one porbably works for mobile

[quiet mortar]

Not that ive heard of

[errant laurel]

I'm trying to figure out how this guy has 2k+ coupons on a world where plastic just got automated

[mint cradle]

Alright I’ve got power set up in dune desert so now I get to rebuild everything

[quaint cedar]

no I don't want an item and I just chose ipm I want to build it from scratch like putting Miner and stuff till I reach the item

[quiet mortar]

probably dupe glitched them

or maybe used satisfactory map

[errant laurel]

wouldn't be surprised *edit, they did

[quiet mortar]

[gentle wedge]

Sup

Any one here

[floral sparrow]

When is the memes channel going to become funny again

[quiet mortar]

no

[gentle wedge]

Crazy

[gentle wedge]

Lol

[restive umbra]

Should I build a factory

Say yes if yes say no if yes

[quiet mortar]

Thats the name of the game

[earnest condor]

No. You should build 2.

[gentle wedge]

Yes that is the point

[soft oyster]

EVERYONE!!! 🌎 GET IN THE CAR!!! 👉
🚗 WE'RE LEAVING 🏃 THIS👇 TOWN 🌆
NOW‼️ WHAT THE⁉️ IMPOSSIBLE!!😱
THIS👇 ISN'T A CAR🚗🚫
NOOO 😟😣 NOOO😨 HERMIT PURPLE!!!! 🧶💜

[gentle wedge]

?

[restive umbra]

I've heard of Satisfactory before but not this one

[quiet mortar]

bro doesnt get it

[restive umbra]

will check it out

[reef basin]

if you want to do extra work for same result 🤷

[gentle wedge]

Wdym

[floral sparrow]

Hey, old man... What in the hell are you doing?

[high elk]

I've hit 300h on this game and yet my perfectionist ass is still on phase 3

[quiet mortar]

Peak

[worn spoke]

Awesome thanks! 👍 🙂

[high elk]

I NEED to make 10 of those computer units per min otherwise I'll DIE if it's less than that

[gusty tangle]

i cant stand the bug that makes pipes not align with vertical facing pipeline supports im gonna lose my damned mind

[earnest condor]

Quite easy once you have some alts.

[high elk]

Oh nono i know dw
Matter of fact I've got a ton which I'm using, from iron pipes made with pure iron, to rubber concrete and such

The problem atm is concrete funny enough. I've used too many of those steel + concrete alt recipes and now I need to figure out the logistics to bring limestone to my pipe & molded bean plant, and since I'm in an area with very limited water (im using basically all of it for the pure iron), I can't really use wet concrete.

[earnest condor]

Concrete is impeding your Computer build?

[high elk]

Nono, it's those space part computers, the round MPUs or whatever they're called

[honest verge]

The factoryspawner mod is now my go to, caculations by me, buildings by mod

[earnest condor]

ACUs? Adaptive Control Units?

[high elk]

They need reinforced frames which I need a ton of. Everything else is ready

[high elk]

THAT- yes. Those.

[earnest condor]

I'm assuming "reinforced frame" == HMF = Heavy Modular Frame?

[high elk]

Not on the game rn so I can never remember the acronym for some reason

[dawn tulip]

how does fluids work :(

[high elk]

Yes
I'm really bad with names
Sorry :<

[earnest condor]

Plz study 😭 So we don't confuse people 😭

[earnest condor]

Put in pipe, connect pipe to machine that needs fluid?

[high elk]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-8038175681642934493

[earnest condor]

Danger link is dangerous.

[dawn tulip]

not all the machiens are getting the fluids

[high elk]

Emblem failure
It's actually so over

[dawn tulip]

I calculated all the flow rates

[earnest condor]

Stop thinking about pipes in terms of belts.

[high elk]

It's a gif twin, I'm not selling crypto

[earnest condor]

On belts, items go where directed.
In pipes, fluid goes where it can.

Junctions are not splitters nor are they mergers.

@dawn tulip screenshot of setup?

[quiet mortar]

You need pumps when pipes go vertically

[dawn tulip]

Im trying to get screen shot but IDK why screens shots don't like this game

[earnest condor]

P for photomode 🙂

[dawn tulip]

I put them in the screenshots channel

[dense violet]

post in #math-and-meta can't see them here and super anoying going back and forth

plus other people talk in here more

[dawn tulip]

kk

thanks

[worn oar]

I just found a horrifying bug. Moving your mouse around stacks of items in your inventory generates thousands of uobjects a second. I was able to get my normal 418,000 uobjects up to over 1.1 million just by circling around some leaves repeatedly.

[worn spoke]

matter tells space-time how to curve, and space-time tells matter how to move

[unkempt blade]

sounds like an easy workaround - just use a controller

[earnest condor]

Not sure how that is relevant.

[worn spoke]

it's relative...ity

[unkempt blade]

that's true, I learned about it in a documentary I watched called Farscape

[worn spoke]

That's the one where he dies in the end right?

[unkempt blade]

kind of

there was a sequel documentary called The Peacekeeper Wars that clears that up a little

it's still very scientific though

[leaden turret]

curve tells space-time how to matter

[mint cradle]

Okay now that I moved to dune desert first 2 parts of rebuilding are complete

Coal and 450 iron ingots per min

Gonna produce all iron basics and copper basics then move to steel

[outer scarab]

why do items have health bars like they were suppose to take durability damage?

[mint cradle]

Aye the 450 ingots are just from a compact foundry setup

[unkempt blade]

they do?

[outer scarab]

yah above the items like filters and stuff they lose bar when you are in gas

[latent prawn]

the filters indicate their amount left before ticking down, jetpack shows how much of a burn you have left before landing, anything else is a ui bug

might also be some weird ui remnant from the early development when the vehicles had health

[primal obsidian]

ui

satisfactory larp

[worn spoke]

I prefer them with health, it helps humanize them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[dense violet]

you like to burn humans as fuel??

[worn spoke]

I don't like it, no! But if I'm about to die of hypothermia... 🙄

and it boils (lol) down to a survivalism choice between me or thee

[dense violet]

have you considered not putting yourself in a position where you need to burn humans alive?

[worn spoke]

Fortunately that day has yet to arrive so I pretended assumed that we were talking hypotheticals

[restive umbra]

I just found a crazy bug

🐛 look at him go

[earnest condor]

🐞

[rigid mist]

"why isn't my rocket fuel running at full capacity" the 3 blenders that aren't connected

and that i forgot to power the pumps extracting the RF

[leaden turret]

tech support 101: "is it plugged in?"

[rigid mist]

somehow the blenders are doing fine with 20 metres of headlift and i'm not gonna touch it
i don't how it's working but it works

ok now i'm transporting enough

[restive umbra]

If it ain’t broke fix it until it is

[glossy latch]

i haven't played satisfactory in a few months and i have no clue what i was doing in the game should i just restart

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[rigid mist]

no

"satisfactory is spending hours waiting for the resources to full propagate through your mega factory"
-me about 30 seconds ago

[worn oar]

No, your factories are still there doing their thing

[chrome whale]

Load it up and maybe you'll remember

Steel screws are amazing, so much output

[unkempt blade]

You should keep the save and just do whatever the factorio wiki says to do. They seem like they have a pretty good grasp on factory games

[unkempt blade]

if you build the production steps in order you can let the early ones fill up while you build and they come fully online faster

[latent prawn]

why balanced splitting ends up being a good thing ™

[rigid mist]

yeah i got 320 generators split into 20 sets of manifolds of 16

[latent prawn]

clock them to 250 or 125 and do a power-of-two split

unless you're talking fuel, can only do manifolds with pipe 😛

[rigid mist]

i wish there was a way to measure average fluid throughput

omg power production was stable for a whole 10 seconds

[worn oar]

Valves, pumps, and buffers all show the in and out