satisfactory

[whole robin]

Arachnophilia: replace every enemy on the map with 2 gas stingers, including baby stingers

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah its indeed a great task to automate them 2/min

[whole robin]

I am so excited to finally move on to bigger and better and far more complicated things, like aluminum and rocket fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

you only need like, one continent for it

[whole robin]

Oh no i made 8x heavy encased frames 😄

So its like 21-ish

[mortal ginkgo]

ah so you needed 3 continents, its fine, maybe DLC will give more place for you folks

[whole robin]

No i just needed most of the grassland nodes at max overclock to do it

[spice latch]

I have an issue with trains, my train schedule is set up so that my train waits at the stop until one loading or unloading process is finished and 30 seconds has passed but it doesnt load any items and just leaves after the 30 seconds

[mortal ginkgo]

oh, only 95% of it, I see. Well you are good at optimization

[abstract heron]

yay yay 12hr more hrs till 19,500hr
19,488 hrs on record

[abstract heron]

does it have unload or load on the side u want to go out

[whole robin]

Why thank you! ☺️
Though i wouldn't say that i'm perfect at optimization, since the factory is almost entirely manifolds and i had to fix it a bit because there were some errors i only realized i made after construction, like forgetting to connect some stuff to actually be able to be handled by mark 4 belts

[spice latch]

I have it all set up correctly, I even deconstructed the loading platform and reatached the conveyers to see if that fixes it. I had a similar issue with my first train but I fixed it by deconstructing and rebuilding the loading platform and the other train works now

I dont know what the issue is because I basically set it up the same way I set up the first train

[cosmic parcel]

How big is the difference between “enough points for golden nut” and that plus most of the decorative unlocks? Should I be extra careful with my points or can I my my endgame look nice?

[mortal ginkgo]

" is almost entirely manifolds " brother man it is the correct way to play dont worry.

yolo manifold + priority merger injection = swag output

[whole robin]

I also have like 8 smart splitters just to combine the overflow from 3 different steel pipe belts into the conveyor feeding the HMF, and i have like 6 different currently unused sets of machines that i plan on using later that currently just sitting like bumps on a log and contributing to the ~2,000 MW max consumption of the whole plant

[unkempt blade]

I personally start with all the decorative stuff + factory carts. I think I had probably 4-500 banked on top of that the last time I finished the elevator stuff so there was still a bit of work for the statue

just overflow sinking all your factories goes a long way over the course of the elevator stuff

[cosmic parcel]

My first run though I did very little sinking so I don’t have a lot of experience to work with.

[whole robin]

If you want your factory to be running all the time and making your power consumption graph looking clean, put a sink to a smart splittet set to "overflow" before the storage container for your final stage of production to kepp it going steady as well as making a lot of points

[pine temple]

i really dont know how to progress right now... it feels like when trying to automate certain stuff (mainly steel products right now) it seems extremely slow

i havent even completed phase 2 of space elevator and im lost

[tall lantern]

if you're not making enough with your current factory, make more factory

[daring wyvern]

got a new pc and lost my old save but feel like starting from scratch is going to be a bit long... anyone doing a playthrough?

[tall lantern]

you will be expanding across the map, so don't feel like you have to do everything in one place

[tall lantern]

#1201555265942724758 for co-op

[pine temple]

i feel like the game is very vague about how much you need of certain items since you cant see future research costs

[dense violet]

the milestones are basically a tutorial, just make some stuff and unlock everything.
then you have a sandbox

[unborn gyro]

well at least you don't have a pile of 💩 recipes like star rupture does

[dense violet]

you can also just store up thousands of parts

[unborn gyro]

satisfactory is great

[dense violet]

I take it star rupture aint very good? isn't it still very EA?

[unborn gyro]

it is great starship troopers sim

you know kill all the bugs

[abstract heron]

hiya cobalt

[unborn gyro]

i have played it maybe too much

Can we doom leo?

[cosmic parcel]

I decided to answer my question with numbers, and the difference is slightly over twice the cost in points between 1000 and 1273 tickets

[unborn gyro]

doom leos modded save more like 😄

[abstract heron]

i wanna have 1.2 BUT MODS I NEED THEM to be updated

[unborn gyro]

nah you need to go to your save folder press ctrl+a and delete

[thorn shale]

guys...

[valid epoch]

I didn't see any good or useful mods in the nexus mods.

[thorn shale]

i maybeeeee

have a schmall poblem wit satisfactory..

[abstract heron]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[unborn gyro]

guys? that sounds kinda sexist. you know gurls play sf too

i sometimes wonder if Simons is kept around just because of me

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> can't wait for stream is there a Video this week? and Getting there on hrs wise 19,489 hrs on record

[unborn gyro]

i miss Simon 🙁

leo

[abstract heron]

uh what maxeek

[dense violet]

satis mods aren't on there

[cosmic parcel]

Way I went about it is goal first: pick a final project assembly product to make, pick a speed at which you want it done, and build enough factory to keep up that rate

[unborn gyro]

poor Mikael and Jason always being spammed by you

[abstract heron]

nah

they said i can ping them when i get 20khrs probbaly heavy

[earnest condor]

Tbf, you can't find any "good or useful" ones anywhere else 😛

[void gorge]

?

[abstract heron]

one is good for nights is disco nights

[void gorge]

Yah, or when there's urgency

[abstract heron]

also hi mikael hows life and video this week?

and is uzu giga sick still

[unborn gyro]

sf sure has some amazing moddin community tho

[void gorge]

Life's fine, "video this week?" doesn't sound very urgent

[void gorge]

Getting better!

[unborn gyro]

and people still desire to have mods on steam ugh

[abstract heron]

BUT i love when i TALK to u

mikael 🙂

[unborn gyro]

hell-o all my monopolies

[abstract heron]

And also a hrs update 🙂

[abstract heron]

uzu needs to be 100% tho 😛

[unborn gyro]

leo you should not really bother Mikael. Mikael needs to defeat Xalatath

because i sure won't

[void gorge]

Didn't last very long lmao

[unborn gyro]

good for you

for both of us actually

[void gorge]

That so?

[abstract heron]

alright going to nearly back to work on my 100 nuclear pasta project maybe

[unborn gyro]

damn you nostalgia

[void gorge]

I miss when WoW was gripping

[abstract heron]

also for stream mikael will it be both u jason and mikael or just one

[earnest condor]

WoW peaked at WotLK for me.

[void gorge]

Likely both

[abstract heron]

ooo what is he going to show us on stream?

[void gorge]

Who knows

[unborn gyro]

well we were young the life was shiny and we have had so much fun in wow

[unborn gyro]

wotlk was the best

and also best last because then activision came

and after pandas chris metzen left 😭

[valid epoch]

I have reached a big problem yesterday myself and the point of return is a few hours before that happened.
Basically, I turned on 2 "PAs" at the same time when my power grid only makes around 10K with fluctuations, not stable.
Then, in panic I deleted a few power poles and power towers.

Ofc, the solution is standing there near the crater, but I am too lazy to work on that and working in the abyss is so depressing and lonely.

[valid epoch]

I miss the days when Akklaim was around and the game 9Dragons was active.

[unborn gyro]

there are no problems deleting your saves can't solve

[valid epoch]

And throw away the hundreds of hours worth of playtime?

[unborn gyro]

why not

[ivory bluff]

I have yet to try to settle transport buses (unless I go full conveyor buses...).

[unborn gyro]

i often get pissed of by my save at 40 hours so i just start new one and a gain and again.

[earnest condor]

Hub0 resets are honestly my favorite part of this game.

[valid epoch]

I rather fix what is broken with my initial setup instead of starting fresh and do it all over again after I learned from my mistakes.
I also want my 2nd playthrough be on version 1.2 or higher when all the new stuff and QoL features are added.

[unborn gyro]

you know (in)sanity is doing the same thig over and over again expecting different results 😄

[ivory bluff]

Can't wait for some of the QoL features.

[dense violet]

settle transport?

[dense violet]

of?

[ivory bluff]

Tractors.

[valid epoch]

I didn't build a single production line that goes from source to final product, there's always an end between the sections and then I feed the machines manually.

[earnest condor]

Nothing wrong with current tractors.

[unborn gyro]

pressing esc to pause the game is legendary

[ivory bluff]

The one that allows to connect buildings' power to eachother, notably.

[valid epoch]

They're only better in 1.2 with route mapping.

[unborn gyro]

i need to edit my input.ini remove the pause command

[earnest condor]

Better is subjective 😉

Both times they have simplified trucking we have lost functionality.

[dense violet]

eh, daisy chaining is ugly, can't hide the cables

[valid epoch]

The input.ini has the code lines for switching your input from KBM to controller? that it recognizes the switch automatically?

[earnest condor]

What do you MEAN making power poles completely obsolete because you can do entire factories on a single wire is ugly?

Oh wait... 😛

[unborn gyro]

nope it remember what type into console but is is bit y in 1.2 i need to have it read only or else the game fufs it up

[valid epoch]

I need that feature when I am playing on my handheld, for some reason it refuses to pop up the built in virtual keyboard.

[unborn gyro]

1.2 is a fuf up for sure

someone should call tim sweeney

[cosmic parcel]

Yeah I find new trucks in 1.2 unusable for most stuff I used them for due to not being able to save fuel with delays.

[unborn gyro]

huh

[earnest condor]

I don't personally understand delaying anything ever.
But that is valid.

[unborn gyro]

trucks are great but no pause tho

it is mostly the engine stuff and the garbage flying around

[mortal ginkgo]

wot

oh you mean like wait time

[cosmic parcel]

If I build frame factory early on far away, and want to connect it pre-trains, I only need like 1/20th of a truck running the loop, but have to spend the coal now for a full truck loop, aka, 20x as much. And if I am still using coal, thats a size able chunk of power gone

[mortal ginkgo]

while I do agree with the statement, they also use extremely low amount of fuel. especially at rocket fuel phase

[unborn gyro]

you know Sev is evil he has a cat as a pfp and ye never posted a picture of them

[cosmic parcel]

I have trains and delivery bots at rocket fuel stage. Trucks were my stepping stone

[dense violet]

that is an insane truck hot take. talking about something like that making trucks unusable for you in suchs a small section of the tutorial phase of the game

[unborn gyro]

one day trucks become self aware and eatus all

@mortal ginkgo 👀 have you reached next phase yet?

[mortal ginkgo]

hey Maxeek, nope, still working heavily on converting entire logistic system to mk4 belts

[unborn gyro]

so you did

or else where would you get mk4 belts

[earnest condor]

Trains consume more fuel than trucks could ever hope to.
So your worry about trucks consuming fuel is a bit ironic.

[cosmic parcel]

If only 10% of players get past the tutorial, is it really such a small part of the game?

[mortal ginkgo]

oh that save I share in my pfp? yeah its long at phase 3, got trucks etc going around. Still didnt work on phase 3 objective items themselves

I am upgrading HUB as we speak and I hate mk4 belts and everyone should hate them too

[unborn gyro]

you more?

mooore saves for me to nit pick? 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

Sure 😄

[unborn gyro]

gimme

[mortal ginkgo]

only when Phase 3 is ending, so gotta be patient.. probably a lot 😄

[unborn gyro]

i hope zula did not forget i want his new save too

[unborn gyro]

how dare you

@dense violet btw have you checked stin archis save yet?

i have to say i am kinda disappointed. damn my next gen pc and ue5 it is no longer ripping it appart

[dense violet]

I have not! what's wrong with it exactly?

[unborn gyro]

back in ue4 and back on 1660ti it was literally breaking the engine, kinda sameish like zulas old save

[dense violet]

... your complaint is that it isn't hard on your computer anymore??

[unborn gyro]

like parts of the map did no load 😄

[cosmic parcel]

Anyways, 100% of the places I used trucks in my first playthrough of the game are ones where I would rather run a really annoyingly long belt now, all because custom long pauses were removed in 1.2

[unborn gyro]

very much so

you know memberberies 😄

[white dawn]

PEBKAC! Gotta build bigger. :)

Get yourself into "literally exhausting resources" territory. :P

[unborn gyro]

the ue5 update changed a lot

i don't think it is possible to break it like back before update 8

[wraith panther]

How many heavy modular frames should I automate?

[reef basin]

how many do you need?

[unborn gyro]

all of them

[wraith panther]

I don’t really have a set number

I’m shooting for 14 but I’m getting overwhelmed

[reef basin]

well, then our response is a good as rolling a dice 🙂

[unborn gyro]

you will need a lot hms for sure so as many asa you can

[reef basin]

you can always start small and build more once you need more

[whole robin]

Are you trying to plan for later or just to make ACUs

[reef basin]

no reason to build in advance either

[unborn gyro]

and you know maybe bit more so you can give some to greeny

[reef basin]

build only what you need now, factories that need HMFs later will make their own HMFs

[dense violet]

what recipes are you using?

[wraith panther]

I’m using a pure refinery recipe for my iron ore. I just wish the numbers were better

[dense violet]

how are the numbers bad?

[wraith panther]

I’d have to look back at my numbers lol

[dense violet]

clocking exists in the game - there's no 'bad numbers'

[wraith panther]

I was just kinda wondering if that’s a lot to make a minute

Okie. I’ve been wanting to get back in to it.

[unborn gyro]

👀 geez

pure iron

why why

[dense violet]

here , a set of recipes that really reduce resource cost and machine numbers https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=AShzay9OqPw2YL4DS6xT

[unborn gyro]

well i know people like to punish them selves for no reason

[wraith panther]

I’ve never messed with it before

I was curious how it would play out

[unborn gyro]

pure copper is nice pure iron is waste of time

[wraith panther]

I wish I had some screen shots of it

[wraith panther]

2 each their own.

[unborn gyro]

i know using snipping tool is hard

pure copper only because the damn pasta

[wraith panther]

I’ve never gotten that far

[unborn gyro]

damn you copper powder

[unborn gyro]

sadly i did multiple times

[wraith panther]

lol

[whole robin]

That's just in the next phase, don't worry about that yet

[unborn gyro]

i am continuously working on no sloop save this one will be like 5th try

[wraith panther]

I just wanna beat the game. I got near 1,000 hours and I’ve never even beaten it :c

[thick cave]

yo chat, question
how am i supposed to make 1450 iron per minute with miner mk2

[reef basin]

you build more

[unborn gyro]

you truly madly deeply need to try more

[wraith panther]

I always burn myself out

[thick cave]

how much more

[reef basin]

(als we're not chat, this is not twitch 😛 )

[reef basin]

to give ou the amount you need

[unborn gyro]

until you get the golden nut

[thick cave]

idk the ammounts given per each node
(ie impure, normal, pure)

[unborn gyro]

@wraith panther you dosh doshington a factorio guy got the golden nut so you can get one too

[reef basin]

the miner tells you that

[wraith panther]

I’ll try my best :3

Cause I’m really happy with my current save, it’s fricken cool

[unborn gyro]

greeny does factorio also work in seconds?

i hate it dsp and star rupture have production in seconds ant it sux.

sf is like the only factory game that works in parts per minute and i love it for it

[reef basin]

time unit is irrelevant

[normal orbit]

It's same thing tho? Just a factor of 60

[unborn gyro]

not really it takes time to recalculate it into ppm

[whole robin]

Have you tried using blueprints to make sets of machines you place hundreds of far easier to manage

[unborn gyro]

i have to say sf math was always easier to lets say dsp math

[normal orbit]

If everything is in seconds why recalculate?

Also ppm is parts per million :p

[cosmic parcel]

Satisfactory is mostly per minute. And the per second sucks in factorio mostly cause they round too aggressively, so it’s hard to get the counts right without redoing your own calculations.

[unborn gyro]

nit picking 😛 you know i mean parts per minute 😛

[wintry wharf]

guys i have a question
when i paint a chest red
the chests UI has a red box around it
however why is it that if i paint a tractor red
its inventory UI is still orange instead of red. Why???

[unborn gyro]

so also in factorio thank you i have to say for me playing these games like dsp and star rupture the per second is just annoying

i would more like do sttiched plates and with a decimal point in there then this

[whole robin]

Gather iron from all around a biome and use conveyors to bring it to whereever you're gonna process it. If you have lots of power shards, set all the miners to max overclock

[restive umbra]

Don’t forget about trucks tractors trains and most importantly the factory cart

The only automated vehicle that doesn’t require fuel

[stoic salmon]

is there a way to scan for dropships

[dense violet]

yup you unlock it in the mam

[stoic salmon]

oh cool ty got it

[unborn gyro]

is there a way to scan for doggos?

[dense violet]

yup, your eyes unlock it

[unborn gyro]

if only we could have april fools all year around

[wraith panther]

I don’t mind the building. I’m not the biggest fan of blue prints. But I guess just the target number I’m going for just isn’t really working out for me. I’m gonna try and find out some other ways to get some more manageable numbers

[obsidian zodiac]

stream tomorrow, no video for a few weeks. keep those numbers up leo 🦁

[shadow talon]

Hi Jason

[obsidian zodiac]

wassup

[shadow talon]

Doing good, How you doing?

[obsidian zodiac]

im well! been working on a new project this week, lotsa fun

[abstract heron]

OFC and can i ping u when i reach 20khrs and mikael?

[abstract heron]

also will the stream do both of u or just one

[shadow talon]

Ohh project, 👀 For Satisfactory or other?

[obsidian zodiac]

both of us!

[obsidian zodiac]

new satis video 🙂

[shadow talon]

Ohh imma be looking forward to that :)

[abstract heron]

what will u be showing us or a secert for now

[whole robin]

What amount of which resource are you trying to make?

[obsidian zodiac]

it'll be a split stream between satisfactory and playing a game coffee stain is publishing, comes out tomorrow 🙂

[unborn gyro]

chew

spoiler alert

[abstract heron]

ooo fun

[abstract heron]

PC or console and in 1.2 or 1.1

[unborn gyro]

leo i envy you

you spend so much time spamming community manager they no longer care 😄

[abstract heron]

what they know my end goal @unborn gyro reaching 20khrs and i do love the game but MEMORY UPDATE COME ON

[unborn gyro]

you are killling me softly have you ever do qa?

[abstract heron]

nah 😛

[unborn gyro]

prototype consoooomer

[abstract heron]

i feel sometimes i am a mini andrew in game

[unborn gyro]

mini andrew lol

[abstract heron]

you know making 100 nuclear pasta per minute no overclocking

[umbral wagon]

Hey all. I'm about to start my first playthrough. Should I play 1.1 or go straight to 1.2 exp?

[abstract heron]

what do u want to do

[unborn gyro]

pasta is evil

[abstract heron]

uh no i need 200 loops for the pasta and 20k copper powder

[whole robin]

1.2 probably? But you'll be fine in either version

[earnest condor]

Go to 1.2

[night umbra]

guys is there a way i can build on the same level like my main base withouth having to build 5k meter long road until i need it and be sure it will connect ?

[trim crag]

can someone help pls? I'm at phase 4 and I wanna build a factory bud idk what I need,my friend sad I should make computer,battery,ciruit board,high-speed connector..
but I need nuclear pasta propulsion rocket and director system for the phase 4
what should I do? try to get the phase and build a factory for thoose items or follow what my friend sad

[night umbra]

.

[restive umbra]

After much consideration I’ve come to the conclusion that the factory must grow

[karmic veldt]

That's philosophical type shi

[green fiber]

not quite easily.
the world grid does have certain step sizes (assuming you go with 2m foundations minimum) , but you could be off by 2 m anyway

[karmic veldt]

April fool idea: make satisfactory a pay to win/freemium game

[green fiber]

is there a benefit of building on the same level as your main base if you arent going to connect them with a foundation bridge?

[night umbra]

i will but later

when i need it

[leaden turret]

free game with £40 content dlc

[night umbra]

dlc name ?

[restive umbra]

I don’t actually think its going to be a useful thing to do, certainly not worth the effort if it’s not worth building the foundation bridge rn

[leaden turret]

"thanks for the money, suckers"

[wraith panther]

I’d have to look at my numbers I have saved on my pc

[karmic veldt]

"heavy modular frame will take : 1d 23h 59 seconds to complete.

In a hurry ? Watch an ad for a 30min boost.
Or buy gold ore for 0,99€ and unlock heavy modular frame now !"

[trim crag]

can anyone help with this please?

[karmic veldt]

In the universe of sinners, this is the type of satisfactory they deal with

[karmic veldt]

On the contrôler, "select" go to formula and jotte down everything you need to make in a form of scheme

[whole robin]

Well there's almost certainly enough materials around the map to do whatever you are trying to do, but what is your overarching goal? I.e. what are the project parts you need to make

[karmic veldt]

Every element in formula is Linked to how it is made and what is its purpose

[thick cave]

problem:
the best belts i have can only do 400/min

[trim crag]

not like that like I know what I need and how to plan it out but idk what to build cuz my friend sad to make computer,battery,ciruit board,high-speed connector..
but I need nuclear pasta propulsion rocket and director system for the phase 4
and idk if I should listen to my friend or just make a factory to get the phase 4

[karmic veldt]

But fyi I spent most of phase 4 (+80hr) making a train track for 3 trains with one path most of the track

[whole robin]

Thwy do 480 a minute, and just use a lot of belts

[karmic veldt]

Hé is right ? I mean you will need those for phase 4 elements

[thick cave]

i just adjusted the ratios so i only do 3/min until i get the infastructure to support more heavy modular frames

[whole robin]

That's perfectly fine, that's all you need until next phase

[karmic veldt]

Just build a méga factory, each stage is a transformation, first stage ore to ingot, ingot to brut product, second stage mixing product together, third stage logistic (bringing every element where it should go...) etc

[floral sparrow]

I keep getting fixated on the exact spots I'm going to put things and whether they'll end up clipping into the world, then not actually getting anything done 🫠

[karmic veldt]

Use satisfactory calculator on google it can draw schematics

[trim crag]

ty

[whole robin]

Have you asked your friend why he said that you should build those things? They aren't very complicated but are used for things later on, like said prpject parts

[karmic veldt]

Just remember that even if you try the hardest, spaghetti belts are a inévitable convenience

[wraith panther]

I’m shooting for 14 heavy modular frames a minute. But it’s just the amount of iron I need to produce. I’m producing that amount through refineries. But the specific amounts I need for each part of it are very much not ideal

[trim crag]

he just sad I should build that cuz I don't really make thoose rn,I only make like 1 or 2 per minute of those things,he sad I should built this, this good?
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%3A"10"%2C"Desc_Stator_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_Battery_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_Motor_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_CircuitBoard_C"%3A"30"%2C"Desc_CircuitBoardHighSpeed_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_HighSpeedConnector_C"%3A"20"%2C"Desc_Computer_C"%3A"30"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CircuitBoard_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_AILimiter_Plastic_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HighSpeedConnector_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Computer_2_C"]}

[karmic veldt]

I also know that satisfactory can be so intense as a game, that sometimes I need to play candy crush saga to bring my chakras to an acceptable level

(Not true)

[whole robin]

Which parts of it are not ideal? The amount of iron ingots that need to be given to each set of machines, the space they take up, or something else?

[lusty turret]

Does anyone know if a mod exists that will let you move large groups of objects at once? Like let's say I built out a level of my factory and I want to move everything at once so it's more centered in the floor but keep the spacing between machines, does this exist?

[karmic veldt]

Listen, if respecting ratios and following a scheme is too stress full, just do like me, build on the go, and fine tune after, use your head to count (satisfactory is really just the 2, 3, 5, 6 and 8 multiplication grid), and have fun without satisfactory calculator :p

[whole robin]

If you are only making 1 or 2 HSC/computers, yes youll need to automate more later, but batteries are VERY optional, only being used for either drones or a single alt recipe

[leaden turret]

you can move stuff out-of-game with scim (linked in #welcome )

[karmic veldt]

Yeah for drone you can use standard packaged fuel

About 50 units for 1,5km

[lusty turret]

Any idea if this will break achievements?

[leaden turret]

save editing should not break achievements

[lusty turret]

Cool, I'll check that out then, thank you

[trim crag]

so can anyone tell me how much should I make /minute of each of those things? please

[earnest condor]

50

[leaden turret]

more than zero, less than infinity

[wraith panther]

The amount that sets of machine lines take. Like I’m sure I could just balance the line and stuff. But idk how to do all that

[karmic veldt]

Just build what seems fun to you and try to follow the steps

[whole robin]

However many you need to make the next thing in production. And that applies to pretty much anything in this game

[whole robin]

Have you tried using a manifold?

[karmic veldt]

So

I really did like an hour and a half of exploration

[wraith panther]

I haven’t gotten that far yet. Trust me, if you know the numbers I have to come up to feed the lines it gets a little overwhelming. Like I said though, I’ll do some more digging in to finding a better way to do it :3

[karmic veldt]

To get this kind of recipes ??? #screenshots message

Is the game hating me ?

[earnest condor]

Hate? There are a lot of good options there.

[tall lantern]

at least half of those pairs have recipes I'd actively seek out

[earnest condor]

Manifolds are like... Phase 1.
So how have you "not gotten there yet"?

[karmic veldt]

I counted 2...

[tall lantern]

each to their own

[whole robin]

The best way i've found was just to use multiple full lines to feed different sets of machines, or just assigning a set of smelters to a set of contructors that was above it

[earnest condor]

In order of image:

• Reroll
• Both are good
• Both are good
• Autowire or reroll
• Both are good
• Both are good
• Oscillator

[whole robin]

(I built my factory to move each product vertically to the next step in production)

[wraith panther]

Do not worry. I will figure it out lol. My first question that started this was “is 14 heavy modular frames to much” I’m not leading towards building something else off of that. It’s just a number I picked lol

[karmic veldt]

In order :

Save
Charge the save, Reroll 1 until good recipe, save.
Charge the save, Reroll 2 until good recipe, save.
Rince and repeat

[earnest condor]

Double-digits of anything is never too much.

[wraith panther]

Thank you :3 cause this play through I’ve been trying to go bigger. And so far it’s all been a blast of fun

[tall lantern]

and this is why we say there are no universally good or bad recipes, since what you judge as good/bad is clearly not what others would gravitate towards 😛

[earnest condor]

The only "bad" recipe in that entire portfolio is Fine Powder because they nerfed the shit out of it when they over-buffed regular Powder without cause or reason.

[whole robin]

It should be enough to get you through the late game further down the frame line

[green fiber]

"good / bad recipe" is literally skill issue

[worn oar]

For ballistic warp drive and nuclear pasta it is

[earnest condor]

Nope.

[karmic veldt]

Compared to alternatives recipe I got with like the 15 first hard drive, I think they are meh

[worn oar]

Unless you are doing a space elevator multiplier run or intentionally continuing postgame just to see what you can build, it's too much.

[earnest condor]

Nope.

[karmic veldt]

Things you can say in satisfactory and in the kitchen

[earnest condor]

Also "intentionally continuing postgame just to see what you can build" is hilarious because you mean -- THE ACTUAL GAME? 😂

[worn oar]

You can't simply say nuh-uh and plug your ears. You want to make those megabuilds, fine. Knock yourself out. But it is not in any way necessary to do anything besides make lots of awesome shop points.

[earnest condor]

Did I ever AT ALL say it was "NECESSARY"???

Or did I say exactly what I meant to say?

[worn oar]

It's overkill.

[green fiber]

500/min pasta may be a bit too much for anyone to ever handle 🤭

[karmic veldt]

You can innovate and try to do downsizing

Youtube: "I made the smallest heavy modular frame factory every ! (You cannot believe your eyes)"

34 views

[whole robin]

Im not even sure that 500 pasta a min is even possible

[karmic veldt]

Skill issue

[green fiber]

hence the "not sure anyone could handle this"

1000 Accelerators GO

[whole robin]

"I would not believe my eyes"? Are there 10 million fire flies?

[hard wolf]

you would not believe your eyes
if 10 million factory flies
lit up the world as I automate

[karmic veldt]

'Cause I'd get a thousand nuclear pasta
From ten thousand lightning heavy modular frame

[worn oar]

Lmao it's not unless maybe if you sloop EVERYTHING

That's over 600,000 copper/minute

I suspect over 100 would be possible legally with converters though. Have not done the math

[whole robin]

If you use alt recipes to get more ingots from ore you probably can get that much without using SAM

[worn oar]

Definitely not. There is only 34,000 copper on the map, pure ingot is 2.5x

[whole robin]

What about leached, or tempered, or any of the other pure ones?

[worn oar]

Leached is 2.5x, others are less efficient for copper

[earnest condor]

Pure Copper is 2.5

[worn oar]

That's what I said

Ok if you sloop the entire chain of copper, costing a measly 2,600 somersloops (lmao) then you can get 500 pasta/minute with 30,000 copper. Obviously you'd have to cheat in sloops. Real pioneer patriot fact check: TRUE.

[green fiber]

leached is 2.4444444

[worn oar]

It also costs 3 to 4.37 TERAWATTS of power for just the copper, not even the other ingredients. Good luck lmaoooo

[karmic veldt]

Maybe I can sell my factory and live in the northern forest with the net profit I would realise, i'm thinking about this every day

Buisness is not really good right now, ficsit coupons are plumeting to the ground. I don't know if my factories are still profitable.

[void cliff]

Would be kind of cool if the game had some kind of materials market, even if it’s not actually a real market, like slime rancher

[shy temple]

There sort of is. Awesome Shop

[void cliff]

I guess tickets/points are close enough, but it would be cool if there was some kind of supply/demand as part of the equation

[shy temple]

The puppies and kittens need you, they only have gratitude to offer in thanks.

Is that not enough?

[final talon]

sorry a bit new to satisfactory is there a way for me to transfer far mining ore siites into my main base or do i just build bunch of hubs in the mining sites

[karmic veldt]

Use trucks

[final talon]

what about the p

power

[karmic veldt]

At the beginning :
Trucks
Middle game: trains
Endgame: drones

[karmic veldt]

Coal is ok

[void cliff]

Power has no transmission losses or line losses. Go nuts

[jolly solstice]

power poles, power towers, rails

[karmic veldt]

Not efficient but that's the best you can have on start

[final talon]

wait so i built up trucks and truck stations in mining sites with some biomass powers atm i am yet to get coal

[karmic veldt]

I think he is talking about powering the truck

[void cliff]

Coal is good fuel for tractors

[karmic veldt]

Biomasse is "ok" but it's a lot of work.

[final talon]

got it thank youu

[karmic veldt]

Else you can use convoyeurs

Belts*

[shy temple]

Yup, conveyors are your better option if you don't have coal for automating transfer.

[karmic veldt]

Sorry my french spilled

[shy temple]

If not at the coal yet, most things should be reasonably close for all you need to get to coal power

[karmic veldt]

Wait you can say convoyeur in english i tought it was belt

[final talon]

but would biomass into solid biofuel be good for now?

[glass turtle]

Ho do i know for sure that building another elevator will not kill me when i go up?

[shy temple]

Conveyor/belts are essentially the same. Conveyor belts

[karmic veldt]

The more you transform biomasse the more it will be efficient

[worn oar]

I don't understand the question.

[final talon]

aight

[worn oar]

Yes, convert any biomass into solid biofuel.

[karmic veldt]

Efficiency is power over time. If you spend time on the combustible, logicaly it upgrade its efficiency

[glass turtle]

I know what the height is at which i am supposed to take damage, but i can only compare my height to the height of the western ocean which i do not know how high that is compared to 0

[karmic veldt]

(In a vidéo game point of view, because in physics that's totaly différent)

[void cliff]

Plenty of conveyors don’t use belts at all. Some are also belt-driven conveyors without having a conveyor belt 🙂

*IRL, anyway

[fiery root]

Does anyone where now the different in distance between normal Polen and this big big ones?

Poles

[karmic veldt]

I use a belt for my pants, it's usefull, it doesn't slip

[worn oar]

200 meters

[void cliff]

100 meters for small power poles, 300 meters for power towers

[karmic veldt]

And you cannot connect the lines of a power tower to a circuit breaker 😔

[worn oar]

Not with that attitude

[fluid sapphire]

Are you sure? Not even the small lower 4 connections? Never tried it

Of course the big ones don't work

The best power poles are not poles nor towers at all though

[shut flax]

does anyone know if milestones changed from 1.0 to 1.1? (as in tier 4 or earlier)

[karmic veldt]

I'm talking about the big pole

[tall lantern]

giggity

[karmic veldt]

Not the small connection inside

[tall lantern]

no changes

[karmic veldt]

Because that would be then small pôles

[shut flax]

then why don't i have to achievement yet 🙁 me and a buddy jsut completed tier 9 but i'm missing 1

[cursive topaz]

Guys did yall ever get to a point where u burnt out, and had to take a break before resuming the ficsit company mission

[fluid sapphire]

Did you skip onboarding?

[karmic veldt]

Ficsit never take a break

[shut flax]

did tier 1 to 4 in 1.0. joined my buddy's 1.1 game in tier 5

so either he uploaded 1 without me being online or idfk wich 1 i'm missing

[restive umbra]

Yeah I get this after about 14 hours. A nice leisurely 20 minute break gets my mind back in the right place

[cursive topaz]

I’m about 450 hour burn out

[fluid sapphire]

Honestly if you've done them all just use an unlocker like SAM, I think it's fair game

[shut flax]

SAM?

[cursive topaz]

Steam achievement manager

[fluid sapphire]

Steam achievement manager, I used it a couple times back in the day, don't know if it's still being maintained

[cursive topaz]

If I remember correctly

I did lol

[karmic veldt]

Steel screw are useless ?

I just won this recipe on the HDD lotery

[shut flax]

lol thought you where talking about the resource, i was like how is that gonna fix my achievement

[white dawn]

Steel Screws is a pretty popular recipe. Quite handy if you're using other recipes which need screws; pretty much any screw-using recipe will only need a single Steel Screws constructor in front

[fluid sapphire]

I did specify "unlocker" :p

[void cliff]

It’s not useless but screws in general are not loved. There’s better alts

[white dawn]

Though as always: how useful it is will depend on your specific situation

I'd agree that there are probably few people who Iove screws out there, but IMO there's also no reason to hate them, or avoid them for their own sake. If your production line benefits from using screwless recipes, then sure, by all means avoid screws. But don't avoid screws just because they're screws

[void cliff]

I have about half the map dedicated to versatile frames now on experimental, lol

[white dawn]

Steel Screws is pretty useful for dealing with screws in a very convenient way (ie: produce the screws directly in front of any machine which needs 'em)

[fluid sapphire]

Funnily enough all of my production lines benefit from screwless recipes

[twin parcel]

dam i just find out slooping ficsonium rod production solves the dark matter residue requirement and reduces the net negative energy issue .

[void cliff]

Bolted plates and bolted frames are great for the blueprinter because they have very high output values. I used these to make 2 HMF/min blueprint from 750 iron ore/150 limestone in the 5x5 blueprint

[twin parcel]

dam bro loves screws

[spiral roost]

1.2 crashes when I try to demolish the train

[white dawn]

In terms of raw resource usage, I think the screwless recipes do tend to win out, yeah, at least with solvers like sftools

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
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[fluid sapphire]

Read up

[fluid sapphire]

I just really, really like my manifolds is all

[hollow kernel]

Your final challenge

Finish the game with 0 alternative recipes

[earnest condor]

The best screw recipe in the game is not useless.

[spiral roost]

oh, at least it is a relief to know that this is a widespread problem, rather than just something thats happened to me

[shut flax]

true but still, my head got confused lol

[white dawn]

I mean honestly a lot of players end up finding alt recipe management a bit overwhelming and just continue with the default recipes. I'd wager altless runs are more common than you might think. :)

[void cliff]

I wonder if he includes +6 inventory slot HD research as an alt recipe

[hollow kernel]

the joke is

theres a lot of

SCREWing around in them

[void cliff]

Screws aren’t so bad, but giving up ALL alt recipes would suck.

[twin parcel]

if u dont care about conveyor belt logistics or u already unlocked mk6 belts , screws might be an option

[earnest condor]

Why are those the only 2 scenarios?

[hollow kernel]

also yall build for efficiency?

i built for making my factory as spaghetified as possible

even god doesnt know whats going on anymore

[sterile blade]

It can be net positive if you don't overclock too

[white dawn]

Screws are easy at any game stage: for any machine which needs screws, just make the screws directly in front of the machine that needs them, in the exact quantity it needs

[twin parcel]

uh alt recipes are not that overwhelming when u unlock drones , oh u need this stuff that made from an a node that is far away and has less throughput ? DRONNESS!!!

[white dawn]

The reason why most people don't like screws is that they try to centralize their production, and then route them around the factory using slow belts. Which, yeah, that's a recipe for frustration

But if you realize the game's trying to tell you Don't Do That, Then™, it becomes a lot easier to manage. :)

[void cliff]

780 ppm screws go BRRRRRR

[twin parcel]

nah , my plan is not to go efficient and i dont want it to be because the blue line already exceeded my power production long ago , im still setting up my nuclear power , until im done , its not gonna run .

[hollow kernel]

alt recipes are mostly just for one situation

"i need more of X but i dont have more raw material nodes to make X"

[twin parcel]

bauxites is an example

[earnest condor]

Just pair Screw Constructors directly with the Assembler/Manufacturer that needs them so your "belt logistics" is just moving Steel Beams around 🤔🤷‍♂️

[void cliff]

Fused wire and steel plates for stitched plate 🤤

[sterile blade]

That's quite reductive, there's also:

• I want to do X this way (eg: using 3 or less input items instead of 4)
• I want to do X without using Y
• I want to use X using the least amount of Y
• That's the least painful way for me to do X
• I want to avoid dealing with X entirely (eg: screw less recipes)
  And so on ^^

[white dawn]

Alt recipes give you options while building. Trade one resource for another. Trade complexity for efficiency. Trade building count for resource usage. etc, etc

[twin parcel]

fused wire is cursed on hmf factory ,

[hollow kernel]

i guess you had enough of SCREWing around eh?

(yes i just made the same joke twice fuck all of you)

[void cliff]

It’s also nice to make “iron only” blueprints that you can plop down anywhere, like iron motors

[sour jewel]

ngl i unlock all alt recipes at the start bc i don’t wanna do allat to get recipes

[white dawn]

Honestly it's sort of a shame that they're even labelled "Alternative," as if the vanilla ones are the "preferred"

In reality it's just that you've got multiple options to produce the same resource, and depending on the circumstance of your exact factory, any one of those could be the appropriate ones to use

[hollow kernel]

btw i wanna ask a question cuz im not sure yet

am i hallucinating or is the map the same every time

[white dawn]

Yes, one big handcrafted map, with four "starting" zones (which you are not obligated to stay anywhere near)

[void cliff]

It’s pretty subjective to your playthrough though. For example, recycled rubber and recycled plastic are dogsh** useless alts on 2X recipe cost. Worse than biocoal.

[sour jewel]

actually electrode circuit board is my goat and i will not take any critique on that bc im right

[twin parcel]

uh making supercomputers is a pain , OC alt is might seem simple , then those two stuff are complicated to make . original recipe + certain alt allows u to use only caterium and crude oil only but yeah either way , building megafactory for supercomputers sucks .

[white dawn]

I mean, if you're changing the parameters of your playthrough via AGS/Creative Mode, of course the relative "value" of recipes can change

(And at the moment that's more a matter for discussion in #satisfactory-experimental )

[void cliff]

I guess it can be a sink for fuel, lol

[sour jewel]

my pain is heavy modular frames solely because of encased industrial beams also concrete

[void cliff]

Everyone uses the alts encased pipes for encased beams and heavy encased frames

[twin parcel]

oh i built big ass wet concrete factory and a steel factory that is decicated to make 100 encased beam /min .

[sour jewel]

oh same

screws can suck it

[fluid sapphire]

Even with decent belt capacity those manifolds are very limited in size

[hollow kernel]

is there a map of hardrive locations somewhere that also has the "door" opening requirement for each one?

[white dawn]

(the point is: don't manifold screws. If you manifold screws then you're causing yourself problems. :) Edit: oops, wrong reply, sorry!

[sour jewel]

i wanna know, what do yall put in bases bc mine are always just hub, mam, and storage and that’s about it

[white dawn]

SCIM shows you the unlock requirements if you mouseover 'em

[hollow kernel]

whats scim

[white dawn]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[sour jewel]

online satisfactory map my beloved

[twin parcel]

a room with toilet , shelf with some statues and some stuff i drop around for deco .

[fluid sapphire]

The value of OC supercomputer is that it can let you consolidate production with other components you are already making on a small scale, for big scale it's not that great yeah

[white dawn]

There's technically not really any need for a "base" at all, fwiw. HUB+MAM can just be constructed when needed, and Depots more or less get rid of the need for central storage (arguably you didn't even need central storage before Depots, though I always found them fun to build. And I admit that it takes a fair amount of effort to build out your Depots to storage-replacement levels)

Though I do tend to have a "home" area where I keep my HUB. It's main purpose tends to be exploration-spoils processing. Drop in bio materials for processing into Solid Biofuel / Gas Nobelisks / Packaged Liquid Biofuel, etc.

[twin parcel]

hmm what alt recipe combo u guys use shorter production chains?

[white dawn]

(And I admit that I do still enjoy building Central Storage type things -- they're a fun logistical challenge -- so I'll typically have that at the same site)

Definitely a labor of love, though, and there's no intrinsic reason why you need to have a "main base" at all

[sour jewel]

god i gotta get more mercer spheres so i can make my depots better

[fluid sapphire]

I do this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ZKvy8j6r9LbMcSTK7RiY

[sour jewel]

also i haven’t beaten 1.0 yet and i feel ||ada getting more human as i get more||

ALSO ELEVADA MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT

caterium computers here i come today

also why is the heavy encased frame recipe so weird with its numbers

[twin parcel]

satisfactory modeler still calculating the complexity of my production , lol .

[whole robin]

You are supposed to make 8x the recipe to get nicer numbers

(Lying)

[sour jewel]

i might just do 4

[twin parcel]

curse technique i used since the heinan era : underclock the last machine .

[whole robin]

You're still on 1.0??

[sour jewel]

i am on 1.1 but like i haven’t beaten the game since 1.0 came out

[white dawn]

Numbers are just numbers. Overclock/underclock to get whatever numbers you want. :) Embrace the decimals! They mean you no harm

[sour jewel]

they harm my mind

[white dawn]

(Or just clock everything at 100%, slightly overbuild, and live with the fact that some machines will go idle occasionally. :)

[sour jewel]

the worst part for me is figuring out how much i should produce for my storage but im just gunna go for 15/m

[mossy moon]

overkill for heavy frames. for me at least, bcs of all the work needed

extra frames will be useful tho

[sour jewel]

i’m also the type of person where when i make a new factory i just put all i need in it and dont export materials from other factories

like when i get to aluminum i will have another heavy modular frame setup there

[twin parcel]

the decimals? oh boy that shit led to decimal error accumulation happens on my fuel plant , the fps dropped had to reload the save or flush the pipes .

[sour jewel]

so the frames i make will only be for storage in there

[mossy moon]

if its just for storage you probably wont need that much frames. so just make an amount thats reasonable with the resources nearby

[twin parcel]

yes , 0.01 frames / min is a reasonable number .

[mossy moon]

if thats difficuld to find out then ig try think of the space requirrred

[mossy moon]

is it ?

[white dawn]

If you want absolute precision, then it's best to avoid repeating decimals, if you can. But if you can stick to 4-decimal precision then things should be quite predictable

[mossy moon]

for the even higher tech stuff i lived with making 2 to 4 items per minute. and ive split off their output even farther for other production lines and left like 1 per minute to storage bcs it had time to buffer a lot before

[mossy moon]

i havent had any trouble with repeating decimals yet

[white dawn]

Yeah, even that's generally not worth being too obsessive about -- you're talking about a potential over/underrun once every 10k cycles or whatever. Could technically add up over time but it's some long timeframes

Still, this game does attract folks who like to get stuff exact. :D

[mossy moon]

i think most of the time repeating decimals cancel out. plus the repeating decimals are expressed in base 10 and theres complicated computer shit so i dont think it matters

[valid epoch]

what is the best "barrier" to put in the abyss so I won't cross into the dead zone?

[mossy moon]

which abyss

oh your building near the edge of the map

[mossy moon]

caution pattern with the striped line pattern is what i thought of first

[valid epoch]

I am building in the black void near the crater area

[valid epoch]

I am currently using the road barrier with the yellow stripes

[mossy moon]

ye and foundation patters too

could be a cool thing

[valid epoch]

But now I am thinking of putting a giant glass wall around the whole area

I even found some discrepencies in the textures of the mountains

[worn oar]

Fun fact: you can turn one nuclear hog into 825.75 uranium fuel rods using somersloops :D

[valid epoch]

on one side you see a mountain, on the other side it's empty and you can build there

[valid epoch]

How?

[worn oar]

By slooping every topline step of the process. Requires some other stuff, but I'm doing the math on what getting that other stuff from the remains would "cost"

[mossy moon]

never heard of nuclear hogs being harvested for resources

and wdym exactly?

[worn oar]

Hog > protein > biomass > biocoal > converter is not a trick the Jedi would teach you.

[violet glen]

They drop anything but 7 of their remains?

I mean, that's not exactly turning them into fuel rods :D

[mossy moon]

holy crap

[worn oar]

Well the math on having all types of conversion powered by the remains itself is extremely complicated, that's why.

But I'm doing it for curiosity

[violet glen]

You can convert everything needed for rods from coal?

[worn oar]

I believe so, except of course for the SAM. SAM quantity needed is yet unknown.

[violet glen]

Hm, I feel like somewhere plastic would come in?

[hollow kernel]

yeah but you see

the yellow light makes me feel physical pain

[violet glen]

Though I never used the converters to convert anything but Ficsite, so no idea what all they can do

[mossy moon]

then perfectly align the ratios and recipes. not that hard

[mossy moon]

they are very handy for odd resoruces across the map. especially getting sulfur

[hollow kernel]

true

(i love my industrial engineering go brrr game)

[violet glen]

I usually just put my factory to where the needed ingredients are

[mossy moon]

sometimes the needed ingreidents are separated so you have to make a tradeoff

nuclear is one of them

[white dawn]

There's a web of resource conversions you can do. There's a little loop with iron/coal/sulfur/limestone, and then a more advanced loop with copper/caterium/bauxite/quartz, with some "spurs" off to Nitrogen Gas and Uranium.

The only raw resources which the converter can't do anything with is water and Crude Oil

(well, and Uranium/Nitrogen are end-products only)

For a lot of players, the resource conversion is admittedly a bit niche, though it's quite handy for folks doing "Max <resource>" type builds, and if you happen to have SAM handy near a factory which needs something which isn't otherwise nearby, it could be handy for that.

Though depending on what else you're using SAM for, that may or may not be worth the effort. :P

SAM's kind of the one resource which is somewhat feasible to accidentally run out of without realizing it. (As least for your "usual" player)

[vapid ice]

hello team

[mossy moon]

imagine being able to make sam out of other resources like uranium, (prob gon create infintie resrouce glitches and loops)

[vapid ice]

i need some help to understand this app bc i wanted to automate 1050 iron ingot/min but i don't understand how to manage it in the app "satisfactory modeler"

[white dawn]

could just avoid using Satisfactory Modeler, then (don't mind me, plz)

[mossy moon]

uh i remember there being a tutorial for the thing. or am i wrong

[white dawn]

In terms of how to manage that kind of volume in-game, though: it's nearly always helpful (IMO) to just make it in "groups" depending on what needs it

[mossy moon]

i think you click or press a key to add a resource you an to make

[white dawn]

Like you're probably not sending all 1050/min into a single step. You're probably sending some to Iron Plates, some elsewhere, etc.

Make it in groups which make sense.

[shut flax]

also could use statisfactory calculator but that is preference i guess

[vapid ice]

how i can send pcture ?

[white dawn]

Alternatively, if you are sending it all into one "next process," it can be helpful to just do it in modules. Like, smaller units.

[white dawn]

Honestly, I think Modeler has its own Discord -- you'd probably be better off asking there if it's a Modeler-specific question

Though if you do want to ask a question on this Discord which needs screenshots, #1038092680493801533 is often the best place

[mossy moon]

the screenshots chanel or design and architectue

[vapid ice]

no :( there is no discord that's why..

[mossy moon]

yes

[vapid ice]

#screenshots

[white dawn]

I mean, there is. Check their top pinned Steam comment, or their itch.io page

[final talon]

so uh... im tryina get power in the you know far away mining place to get coal.... how do i get power basically i cant use biomass burner

[hard wolf]

if you just link the ore output of the miner to a smelter it'll math it out and tell you how many smelters that ore can supply (which is 20)

[white dawn]

When you're first getting coal power going, you do need to use Biomass Burners to "kickstart" the process

[final talon]

oh i am dumb

i need to connect my bad

[white dawn]

Run power lines off to where the coal+water is, set up your coalgens (w/ water extractors + miners, etc), and then once the coal power is up and running reliably you can decommission your bio burners.

[worn oar]

OK! I did the full math. You can create 457.71 uranium fuel rods from one nuclear hog, 6189 SAM ore, and 3,508.84 water.

Seems like an insane amount of SAM, right? Remember this is not per minute, but in total per hog. It's probably more like 300 SAM/minute.

So you can turn ONE nuclear hog into 457.71 uranium fuel rods using some SAM, water, and a bunch of somersloops. It costs 664 megajoules and gives 5.62 million in return. Nice investment.

[white dawn]

One bit of possibly-unnecessary advice: build your coal gens where there is both coal+water available in abundance. There's a lot of spots on the map with like 3-4 coal nodes right next to large bodies of water. Don't transport either the coal or the water; just build the gens right onsite there.

[shut flax]

would require a lot of hunting tho

[worn oar]

No, that's for a single nuclear hog.

So maybe once an hour you kill one thing and you're set

[twin parcel]

u get uranium killing it? i didnt know that

[shut flax]

unless you burn all those rods per minute lol

[worn oar]

It's impossible for me to do the math on the rate of uranium fuel rod production because I have no clue how to tell how fast the production chain takes.

[twin parcel]

well they consume fuel rod slowly ,

[worn oar]

In that case it would be 1 hog/minute and create 5.622 terawatts of power, but would cost you 543,291.91 water per minute which probably ruins any sanity you had left. LOL

[shut flax]

holly shit, yea nvm then

[white dawn]

No, you just get a certain amount of Alien Remains, which when combined with sloops and some SAM for resource conversion can net you a very large amount of Uranium

[sour jewel]

i’m excited to do nuclear math soon

[twin parcel]

well u didnt cover the part where u need to process plutonium rods and sink it

[white dawn]

(I mean, I would certainly not recommend that anyone put themselves in a situation where they rely on hog-hunting to keep their late-game power grid online, but to each their own. :)

[twin parcel]

not fun ,

[white dawn]

I mean, it's just a production line, like everything else in the game

It's no worse than anything you've done before that point.

[twin parcel]

power storage exists

[white dawn]

(I would also not recommend that anyone put themselves in a position where they rely on Power Storage for factory functionality. :)

[worn oar]

Yes that's my point :) You can simply divide the sam, water, and fuel rods by how long it will take to burn your rods. At one rod/minute (5 nuclear plants), you would use one nuclear hog and 14 SAM/minute to produce 12.5 GW for 7.5 hours. With one hog.

And the best part? That would only require 56 of your 103 somersloops.

[white dawn]

Or, and hear me out here, you could just tap a Uranium node and get your Uranium that way. :)

What else are you using Uranium for anyway?

[worn oar]

Yes I'm aware that this is silly, overcomplicated, unnecessary, and overengineered. But it's also fun, and it was fun to do the math. Isn't that good enough?

[white dawn]

It would take a special kind of Pioneer to exhaust the map's Uranium supply making nuke nobelisks. :)

[twin parcel]

uh the nodes only give 50.4 uranium rods at max

[white dawn]

Hah, yeah, I'm with you on that. :D

[white dawn]

256.32/min, actually

Since in this situation we're explicitly willing to spend SAM on the process. :)

[twin parcel]

with sloops?

[white dawn]

No sloops

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=7pqaBFQrrRU0hw43yaXv

[twin parcel]

and we have enough sulphur for that?

[white dawn]

I mean, if you don't trust sftools' math, you'll have to go check it yourself. :)

[worn oar]

With sloops it's something ridiculous like 8000 rods max. I forgot the exact math. But basically without compact machines there's no way

[sour jewel]

i love nuclear bc i just get to do the absolute most and not care about expense

[mossy moon]

without more sloops than are on the map?

[sour jewel]

i will be getting those 50.4 rods a minute and i will be recycling it all into plutonium

[worn oar]

No that would take thousands of sloops. My nuclear hog recipe can be legal though depending on how often you want to go gather more remains or biomass.

[twin parcel]

do not burn all the pultionium for power, u simply will not have enough bauxites and sam for that and some slooping is needed for ficsonium chain anyways ,

[ornate saffron]

sinking plutonium or using it for vehicles is great

[sour jewel]

am i understanding this right in that you are using nuclear hogs as your source of uranium?

[sour jewel]

EXACTLY!!! I NEED MY TICKETS

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message

hmm

[worn oar]

This is theoretical. But it can be done up to 6.4 fuel rods/minute using nuclear hogs in a completely vanilla way, producing 80 GW for 70 minutes per hog if you burn at the max possible rate.

And you can use other source of biomass or protein as well, not just nuclear hogs.

[ornate saffron]

im only making 7.2min and it takes up much of the swamp lol

[worn oar]

Doing the full 6.4 fuel rods/minute would cost 88 SAM and 7729.92 water for the power plants per minute.

[sour jewel]

i’m gunna use one of the starting locations. it’s not the desert, forest, or plains area and i forgot the name of it

trust i will be recycling 100% of my waste for this

[ornate saffron]

rocky desert

[sour jewel]

YES

[worn oar]

Wait I can optimize further and save dozens of sloops, hang on.

[sour jewel]

i understand nothing around sloops and sam and i intend to keep it that way

[white dawn]

Good luck finishing Phase 5, then. :)

As for sloops, it's simple: do the research in the MAM, and then you can add sloops into most production machines (like you do with power shards) to double their production (but not their input costs!) at the cost of 4x power usage.

[sour jewel]

i’m scared for phase 5

[white dawn]

Or alternatively, you can spend 10 of them to produce an Alien Power Augmentor, which gives you free power

(dismantling the APA gives you the sloops back, of course)

[sour jewel]

okay i might just use that for my heavy modular frames forever

[white dawn]

Honestly Phase 5 isn't bad. Phase 4 is peak complexity

[twin parcel]

sloops just double any item without consuming any resource . also consumes more power like overclocking does.

[fluid sapphire]

Why stop at 10, make it 20, and feed them both with matrices

[worn oar]

Ok! It's actually 16 uranium fuel rods/minute from one hog staying completely vanilla and legal, generating 200 GW of power :D

Ok I'm done, this experiment has gone too far

[sour jewel]

phase 4 is aluminum and nuclear right?

[white dawn]

Aluminum and nuclear are two things available in Phase 4, yes.

[sour jewel]

also how many mercer spheres are in the game and how many do you need to complete the research tree

[cursive topaz]

My philosophy, shove as much stuff into one belt as possible and let the manifold handle it

[twin parcel]

yea and i find out the best way to get a bunch dark matter residue for phase 5 parts , just make 5 alien matrix /min , that alone should be enough .

[ornate saffron]

for most ppl the 103 usable sloops in game is the reason

[white dawn]

There's about 300 on the map, of which you need about 100 to completely finish the research, leaving you with about 200 to use for whatever you like. :)

[worn oar]

103 sloops

[twin parcel]

sloops are overpowered on higher tier items

[fluid sapphire]

Diminishing returns

My plan is 2 augmenters :p

[white dawn]

I ended up with 5 APAs at the end of my 1.0 playthrough, one of which I was supplying with APMs. :D

The animation/effects alone are worth at least supplying enough Matricies for one

byoooom

[unborn gyro]

am i a reasonable people too?

[worn oar]

I said I was done, but I lied. Just one more bit of math for you. If instead of nuclear hogs you ran on leaves and wood:

• 5 wood
• 50 leaves
• 220 SAM
• 65 overclocked water extractors (19,324.81 water)

Per minute, generates 200 GW of constant nuclear power (16 fuel rods/minute). While staying within the vanilla limit of 103 somersloops. I'm not kidding, that's how powerful somersloops are.

Which means yes, this is a viable way to finish the game if you are just deranged enough to build it.

[void cliff]

35% underclocking makes them put out 70% output at 100% power, if you’re short on power and ingredients it’s a pretty nice compromise. I usually do this when setting up the liquid biofuel plant

[glass turtle]

Wish i could reduce the range of radar towers

[swift cave]

we should be able to underclock them lol

and overclock

[white dawn]

overclocking a radar tower also starts dealing AOE damage to anything too close

[worn oar]

we zwwwwwwwww

[ornate saffron]

good for the cow level

[zenith pecan]

Huh?

[normal orbit]

What are you on about? There's no conversion of biomass to nuclear

[ornate saffron]

nvm im killing cows in Diablo 2

[zenith pecan]

One way to raise the price of milk I guess.

[swift cave]

what would happen if you slooped a radar tower

[white dawn]

remains -> biocoal -> SAM Conversion -> Uranium

[swift cave]

lasers? can we say lasers?

[karmic veldt]

Screw this recipe

[sterile blade]

Would that include the Pioneer?

[white dawn]

Would there be any other way? :D

[worn oar]

Converters.

It doesn't even take the full 103 somersloops, either.

[normal orbit]

But takes most of them

[worn oar]

Takes 84, yes.

But it is fun to math out and showcases how bonkers somersloops are if you use them in the topline production of a long chain.

[unique hazel]

GUYS HOW DO I CLOEAR BOULDRES ?

mb caps

[white dawn]

Find some sulfur and research it in your MAM

[karmic veldt]

Pionner™️*

[unique hazel]

ok tyyy

[normal orbit]

Where does the 19,324.81 water come from? 16 rods would burn in 80 reactors using 19200. Where's the extra 124.81 coming from?

[white dawn]

(You'll need to be at the steel-producing stage to produce the necessary stuff yourself, though you can find steel products at crash sites, too)

Note that the only rocks you're guaranteed to be able to destroy are the ones with the "cracked" like texture. You can also destroy many smaller rocks around the map, but once they get to a certain size you may not be able to (if they don't have that cracked texture)

[sterile blade]

Sorry @white dawn, I meant Pionner™️. My bad 😓

[white dawn]

heh

[unique hazel]

any good steel factory locations close to bottom of map ?

[white dawn]

When I do a grass fields start, my first steel plant is often over by the big stone arch

[worn oar]

I used pure ingot recipes to create "free" resources and further lower the resource demand from that biomass and SAM. Which takes under 1% of the total water.

[white dawn]

But really just follow your resource scanner to wherever coal is. It's rare to not have some iron around, too

[unique hazel]

poetic

[unique hazel]

tyyyyyy

[drifting briar]

whats the most advanced part youve created a factory for that fits in the mark 1 blueprint?

[normal orbit]

But there's no conversion on ingots?

[worn oar]

What are you talking about?

It's more ingots per ore for a bit of power and water. That's what pure ingots are.

[green fiber]

are you like transmuting alien biomass > biocoal > biocoal into other ores including uranium??

[worn oar]

#satisfactory message

[normal orbit]

You converting all materials to make control rods, oscillators, silica etc from the biomass?

[worn oar]

Oops clicked wrong person my bad

[worn oar]

Yes, the only inputs are SAM, water, and your favorite source of biomass.

[normal orbit]

Oh I see

I thought you only made uranium

[worn oar]

Clicked the wrong person but here: #screenshots message

[south sinew]

that does not fit in a mark1 blueprint

[versed mesa]

Hello all

Has there been news on when 1.2 is actually dropping?

[worn oar]

That is a mk1 blueprint buddy.

[warm crystal]

At time of sending this is the most recent msg

[white dawn]

Nope. Jason mentioned this morning that there won't be more videos for a couple of weeks, and various bugs popped up in the last Exp patch, so I'd personally guess it'd be another month at best

Potentially more info during stream tomorrow, I suppose!

[versed mesa]

Dam thats sad

Maybe they should move quicker so they can release 1.2 already

[green fiber]

why would that be better

sounds like rushing

[white dawn]

CSS has always operated on a "when it's ready" type schedule

[versed mesa]

So 1.2 drops more sooner to public branch

[earnest condor]

You want the general public to experience random bugs and crashes?

[versed mesa]

Sure lol

[earnest condor]

I am soooooo glad you are a not a dev.

[white dawn]

I doubt anyone at CSS is dragging their feet to get v1.2 across the finish line. They're working on it as fast as they can, without causing their employees to have to crunch

[versed mesa]

Meto lmfao

I am happy they do there best theres no issues before releasing

I defo dont like to run into any issues lol

[worn oar]

There is still probably 6 months of work to support mods

So if anything I hope 1.2 is slower

[errant tusk]

❤️

[leaden turret]

studio is swedish, not canadian.

game development will be ABBA'd, not Rush'd

[karmic veldt]

Good ❤️

If you add another train at the end of a train it looks like it helps the train when climbing 🤔 didn't know that

[hollow mountain]

I hate refineries why are they so tall 😢 i have to build 20+ of them it take too much place

Normaly i build vertically but refineries are too tall

[cobalt crater]

Aaaaaaawhere do I ask question about Satisfactory Modeler?

[worn oar]

Wherever you want

[steel kelp]

I can try to help

[cobalt crater]

Yeah, trying to connect dedicated depots together

[white dawn]

Modeller's Discord is the best spot for that

[steel kelp]

Do you meant outposts?

[cobalt crater]

Yes.

[steel kelp]

Open the outpost, on the top right and left of the screen there are 2 + signs. The left one is for things going into the outpost, the right is for things leaving it

[cobalt crater]

Okay, I see

[steel kelp]

Inside the outpost you can connect whatever and however many you want to the question marks that appear after you press the +

And then if you leave the outpost, you just draw the line from the input/output like anything else

[unkempt blade]

yeah but how do I model factory carts?

[steel kelp]

all the logistics are basically modelled for you in the lines between inputs and outputs lol

[unkempt blade]

but I need it to tell me exactly how many carts I need to use based on route time!

this is why I have to use a beautiful mind wall instead of modeler

[split prairie]

it doesnt have any blocks

[cobalt crater]

So, it's all one color?

[split prairie]

probably, since i didnt put any signals down. but im loading up the game and i can confirm that

[cobalt crater]

Well, just remember "path in, block out"

[split prairie]

yeah no signals, all tracks are red

[reef basin]

that means it's all one block

color is not relevant

[cobalt crater]

Well, not beyond the fact it's a single color

[desert ermine]

i just discovered that you can slam the red button in the milestone launcher if you spam click it.

[reef basin]

(and path in, block out, while it's decent rule of thumb, isn't really a good suggestion imo)

[cobalt crater]

easter egg

[split prairie]

i dont know if u had a chance to read my first post about this, it was quite a bit up, from yesterday. ill send it

[cobalt crater]

-# I like to make sure there's a foundation of information

[split prairie]

this one here

[shy temple]

If you have no signals, they will always try to take the shortest route. So it depends on your loop that they might try to backtrack

One train with no signals at all should run fine without any signals, but they will always shortest route to get to the station.

But direction of station matters too, as stations have direction.

[split prairie]

that i understand, what i cant understand is why the train doesnt go to station2 when i put it in the timetable and i remove the rails that goes to station3. the train just doesnt move

[cobalt crater]

Could be a number of things

Without visuals, it's hard to tell. Can be anything from how your stations are pointed to the general layout

[split prairie]

yeah, cant send screenshots here so im not sure if im explaining it well enough

[cobalt crater]

Can send them in #math-and-meta

[split prairie]

ok ill send it there

[unkempt blade]

I agree, there's no good reason to ever use a path signal

[restive umbra]

because they’re not for factory carts?

[cobalt crater]

Because I can?

[shy temple]

I want to set up factory cart delivery on mk3 pures on 250 overclock

[hard wolf]

does inflated pocket dimension mean "increasing the dimensions of your pockets" or "expanding the microcosm in which you keep stuff"?

[worn oar]

More inventory slots

[hard wolf]

I should've asked this in lore :/

[worn oar]

Lore answer is A

[hard wolf]

😔

[worn oar]

Chat how do I stop myself from cheating and then deleting the run and restarting? I want to actually finish this game.

[karmic veldt]

I'm replacing my old oil->heavy oil residues->fuel system
#screenshots message

Much better, much compact.

[white dawn]

If it's the grind that wears you down, could hop on the experimental version (or wait for 1.2 to drop) and use creative mode to reduce power/construction/elevator requirements

[ivory condor]

Have better self control😛

[white dawn]

That might feel like cheating to you, but it's in-game options and you'd still be progressing through the game

[shy temple]

I kind of like the series vs parallel look to that.

[karmic veldt]

I should just turn them 180° the other side 😂

[shy temple]

You cannot. Give in to your feelings.... embrace the new design...

[worn oar]

I'm trying to lol

[shy temple]

Or what I do, try to plan a new phase

I sort of re-collect my resources and stuff, letting the old remain. I putter on cleanup and detailing, then preparing for all of this phase items in a new expansion not reliant on old

Is why I like so many materials on the map, I can sort of ignore the old parts somewhat.

[karmic veldt]

I unlocked the diluted fuel recipe, I have the double of fuel now

[sick falcon]

whens 1.2 coming

[white dawn]

Not been announced yet

[karmic veldt]

If I get m'y maths straight:
30 oil per minute, on a 600 node, would be 20 machines. One machine can generate 80 fuel per minute. So 4 fuel generator per machines, 4*20 = 80 générators, a generator is 250mw, ten is 2500, hundred is 25 000, 25000-5000 = 20 000 Mw of pure pressurised dinausore bones power

[ornate saffron]

sounds right

[karmic veldt]

I did the math for the maximum efficiency of a pure overclocked node. But I didn't do the math for the number of ressources needed for that 😬

And the best part is 80 is underclocked, normaly it's 100, i prefer 30 oil = 80 fuel, than 37,5 oil = 100 fuel, it needs more ressource but I use no shards and it's pretty straight forward

If I use 37,5 = 100 I have to change my architecture or use shards... Nah.

[worn oar]

Are you using blueprints?

[glacial totem]

there's no way to automatically "feed" biomass to a machine is there? as it's farmed in the wild and there's no node

[white dawn]

Leaves/wood/remains must be manually collected and fed into machines, though you can automate every step past that

[glacial totem]

ok cool. I suppose that's why there's so many hostile creatures on the western beaches

for making liquid biofuel

[worn oar]

Put it in a container and feed the container into the constructor

[white dawn]

Personally I can rarely convince myself to use remains for anything but DNA. Gotta get them trophies!

I find I clear enough foliage while factory-building to keep all my biomass-sourced products well stocked (biomass (for U-Jelly pads), solid biofuel, gas nobelisks, Packaged LBF)

[karmic veldt]

For this type of factory yes, it's more convenient, looks cleaner, and it take 10x less time

[ashen ice]

Hi folks, is crossplay planned for anytime soon between console and PC ? It would be really nice if we could play together with console players 🙂

[elder oracle]

Currently not and probably not in the foreseeable future

[ashen ice]

I wonder why 🤔

[elder oracle]

satisfactory is mostly a computer game

[ashen ice]

It's not an explanation, I wonder why crossplay is not possible even in a near future: the game is the same, it's built from the same roots, and if the issue is because of accounts of platforms, why can't we simply use dedicated servers for crossplay ?

Like we do for steam and epic games crossplay

I haven't checked the forums, maybe devs already answered this actually

Plus theoretically, from my experience, EOS actually allows crossplay matchmaking

And I don't understand the explanation provided by the FAQ as to why no PC-Console crossplay is planned.

I don't understand why it would make a bad factory experience

The ps5 and Xbox series X/S are more powerful than many mid-range computers, so I don't get why this can't work

[latent prawn]

mostly its because mods won't be ported to console

[ashen ice]

Yeah but in this case, mods just break cross compatibility

[reef basin]

it's not the same tho

[ashen ice]

A vanilla experience theoretically would work

[elder oracle]

why would you want to cross play with someone on console anyway?

[latent prawn]

i think the devs just needed to draw a line somewhere as to what they were willing to support. only so many hours in a day.

[ashen ice]

My father has the game on PS5 and I have it on computer, but I do not own any console and he doesn't own a powerful enough computer to play games... Why is that even a question actually ?

[elder oracle]

just asking lowk

[ashen ice]

With all due respect, asking such a question was not pertinent to answer the issue: there's plenty of reason we would want coop with console players

Many players are console only or PC only, but not hybrid

[elder oracle]

@reef basin deal with this guy

[ashen ice]

It's expensive to own both, and above that have copies on both supports

[reef basin]

it's expensive to develop a single game for both 🤷

it's known that there's no crossplay, it's listed everywhere, and devs have said that the crossplay won't be a thing

they may change opinions in the future, but at least for forseeable one I don't see that happening

[elder oracle]

that’s what I’ve been saying

[ashen ice]

Less expensive than making two unreal engine games for different support, actually, it's easier to maintain. Though I understand that console limitations may force the team to make compromises they didn't have to make for PC, such as object count limitations on screen

[reef basin]

given that the console port is done by third party

[ashen ice]

Oh...

Yeah my bad, I wasn't aware of that parameter

Indeed, it complexifies the thing, and I can reasonably imagine that they actually have two different unreal engine projects for that

Since the 1.0 has released, I believe this crossplay question have been raised internally, probably both at Coffee Stains Studio and the porting studio, more in a non-official manner, something like "hey guys... Can we just give a look at how hard it would be to make crossplay ?"

They probably went "yeah it seems complicated, let's fix bugs and make the game more stable for now"

I believe 🤷

[elder oracle]

We getting GTA 6 before 1.2 release

[ashen ice]

Lol

[smoky fox]

Does anyone know of a duplicate in version 1.2?

[hard wolf]

I'm pretty sure we're getting Half Life 3 before GTA 6

[ashen ice]

You run on hopium right

[hard wolf]

I have no hope for GTA 6 lol

[ashen ice]

So far it seems it has no reason to be delayed more

[restive umbra]

Speaking from my little bit of game dev experience Crossplay involves a bunch of additional licensing and beaurocracy and other bullshit on top of the code complexity

[ashen ice]

Yeah, that's what I thought so, but I expected the issue to be somewhere else. And, apparently, it was. Considering the fact there's a studio working especially on the port

[elder oracle]

Greeny said that cross play from computer to console won’t be possible

[ashen ice]

The difference is we have gameplay and trailers for GTA 6, whereas we have strictly nothing about HL3 (unfortunately)

Good thing you deleted that

[elder oracle]

yeah

shenanigans

[restive umbra]

From a community management standpoint it is better to be sparse on these kinds of details, there are of course going to be multiple confounding factors, we’re aware it’s not coming but the question raised was why

[elder oracle]

Console port was a third party thing

[restive umbra]

That doesn’t really rule out cross play

[ashen ice]

Well actually it helps to make an idea: having two different unreal projects, one for PC, and one for consoles, explains partially why.

[restive umbra]

I’m not sure what your point is here. We know it’s not coming.

[ashen ice]

Making compatibility between two parallel Unreal projects is basically impossible

[ashen ice]

You're doing anything except answering

Thankfully I'm here

These are hypothesis, but they are plausible

[restive umbra]

Not really, the data structures and all the big parts are going to be mostly the same

[elder oracle]

idk what’s happening anymore

[restive umbra]

You’ve made that evident

[elder oracle]

oki

[ashen ice]

Yeah but Unreal wants the game to be built from one project so the signatures are exactly the same

Plus I believe consoles has some slightly different features, changing structures and functions signatures, resulting in a complexified, and to some extent, impossible compatibility.

Such as a limited amount of objects on the map. For example. I don't recall if the game was released on PS4, but if it was, it's likely this limitation is a thing

[unkempt blade]

yeah but does console or pc get the better version of the packer minigame in the hub?

[ashen ice]

Lol

[restive umbra]

If you’re talking about memory management that’s one of the draws for using a pre built engine in the first place

After that it’s just a matter of packaging up and sending off the changes from the client to the server

It’s really not magic, a computer is a computer is a computer

[ashen ice]

also, removal of dedicated servers support on consoles might give hints that the networking is different between pc and consoles

[restive umbra]

Or that they’re diverting the server architecture enough that they don’t want to maintain a bunch of dedicated server branches

:p

[ashen ice]

Unreal engine includes headless server building from existing project

You do not need a branch of the project

[restive umbra]

That’s entirely unrelated to this discussion

[unkempt blade]

I'm going to assume that the pc version of the packer game is better because it's the only one i've tried

[ashen ice]

Lol

[unkempt blade]

a little biased I know but I can't pass judgment on what I haven't tried

[ashen ice]

Regardless, I believe contraints are technical, even if they're not huge, they're large enough for Coffee Stains Studio not to want to work on this for now

[restive umbra]

Maybe some day

[ashen ice]

Hopefully. That'd be fantastic.

[unkempt blade]

when do you think we'll finally get Switch support?

I just want to build with my joycons

[restive umbra]

After you pump out 20 turbo motors/min

[unkempt blade]

done and done

[ashen ice]

After you pump out 20 ballistic structure things per minute

I don't play the game in English so I don't know if it's the same

[mint cradle]

about to finish hmf factory😭

[woven zealot]

Is there any way to play cross platform, with a paid server or anything? Loooking to play pc ps5 with my dad

[ivory condor]

Long and short answer, not possible

[woven zealot]

There isn’t any ass backwards way at all 😵

[ivory condor]

Thats a negative

Devs have also stated many times crossplay isnt going to be a thing

[dense violet]

I've heard that people using a subscription method of owning the game have shared access to things like that? Geforce or something? but can't confirm it, don't use them myself

[woven zealot]

I see, I wouldn’t want to even bother if I can’t keep steam progress. The game is too much of an investment to not keep track of every little thing you do.

Thank you both, and good luck

[leaden turret]

people are uninformed 🤦‍♂️

archive exists for a reason

[leaden turret]

March 24th, 2026
Q&A: Is pushing back any expansion plans in favour of PC/Console Crossplay still on the table?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULobgRi1j80t=0

If we ditch Epic, if we reiterate the entire backend from the ground up to allow for crossplay between PC and console, and that's an if, not a when, if that happens, that would be at a state where we, as devs, and maybe even you as a community, if you would ever reach a state, which I don't think you would,

feel that we are done pushing out sheer planned content, both free updates and whatever other forms of updates we may or may not push in the future.

When we have exhausted all of our gas in like, yeah, the game is, for all intents and purposes, finished in terms of content.

Now we only have polish, only have only feature requests.

That's the point where we would start looking at fixing the- fixing

rebuilding the backend, and by that, by extension, maybe allow for PC and console crossplay.

And that is why you should not expect PC crossplay with consoles for 2026, or 2027, or 2028, or 2029.

It will not happen anytime soon.

• the issue is not "because third party"
• the issue is not because CSS don't wanna
• the issue is not because separate builds

the issue is multiplayer is a monster and it's easier to defeat a snake than a hydra

[unkempt blade]

Crossplay confirmed for 2030! You heard it here

[worn oar]

On January 2nd, 2030 we riot if no crossplay. Mark your calendars people.

[mint cradle]

is there any way to destroy those huge mushrooms in the werid pond

[dense violet]

if bombs don't do it, no

[mint cradle]

im about to finish the heavy modular frame factory and holy its a beast

been here for 2 hours

[worn oar]

How many?

[mint cradle]

7💀

[worn oar]

Noice

[leaden turret]

• 2019: first dev stream on january 19th
• 2020: first dev stream january 22nd
• 2021: first dev stream january 12th
• 2022: first dev stream january 18th
• 2023: first dev stream january 10th
• 2024: first dev stream january 23rd
• 2025: first dev stream january 14th, but also skipped the week after
• 2026: first dev stream february 10th

also janaury 2nd 2030 is a wednesday

[worn oar]

I'm giving a generous 8 hours in 2030 for them to finish implementing it. No need to wait for the dev stream.

[elder oracle]

Raaah

[leaden turret]

• all updates launch with a dev stream
• most updates launch at the end of the stream
• most streams are on a tuesday

therefore you'd be looking at around <t:1893517200:R> at the earliest. but more likely towards the middle / end of january, based on previous behavior.

[worn oar]

They're going to have to adjust their dev stream back to account for my lack of patience, unfortunately.

[leaden turret]

also you're forgetting they didn't rule out violating causality to release updates, so 🤷‍♂️

[elder oracle]

wtf

[worn oar]

How many times have we heard not to loop the loop organ, bro?

[leaden turret]

I asked them specifically

[elder oracle]

idk what’s going on rn

[leaden turret]

nonsense is going on 😛

[elder oracle]

fair enuf

[leaden turret]

pipe organ built in straight mode, not loop

[elder oracle]

I believe 1.2 should realese sometime this year

[worn oar]

Oh you are so going to burn your temple walking that edge

[leaden turret]

is signpost, not edge lord, no temples on edge here

[elder oracle]

[ivory condor]

Careful the loop organ is about to be looped, many temples burned

[sick falcon]

ada gets mad when you research more things before she finishes explaining??

thats so peak

[ivory condor]

I love doing it, hilarious every single time

[glacial totem]

I wish to have two quartz constructors (silica, crystals) feeding the same dimensional depot, but when it's full of one item it just stops uploading. Is there any way to avoid this? Splitters can't be programmed to know when the DD is full of one item right?

[ivory condor]

This is the fun part, you cant