satisfactory

[craggy umbra]

not that i know of.... but also i've never looked.....

[pliant dust]

like time to it takes for the train to make a full trip of its train schedule

just trying to balance my throughput bc im taking the bauxite from the swamp to my factory in the dunes

[neat anvil]

I’m pretty sure that information is in the station that it goes to, but the schedule can also fluctuate if you have more trains

[craggy umbra]

don't forget to factor in the load and unload times with that too

idk if it would count that

i always resource buffer my train stations a bit for that reason

[cursive topaz]

Time for a stop watch

[neat anvil]

Train station do you tell you how much throughput is going to it per minute

[cursive topaz]

Nothing beats doing it manually

[pliant dust]

lovely

that sounds like a morning me thing to do

[cursive topaz]

Or mods I’m sure the that is a decent mod

[craggy umbra]

except the in-game clock cuz that's what'll have all the exact times if you're trying for a 100% efficiency throughput

otherwise stopwatch is your friend

[pliant dust]

im on the experimental branch unfortunatly so i dont think theyll work

[cursive topaz]

Can’t be that far off the internal tick

Yk like it says 60 items a minuet I expect that to be irl mins

[craggy umbra]

it depends on how the game calculates time, it goes to the i think 4th decimal so you'd have to be exactly on the 0000th decimal to line it up perfectly with the in-game clock (unless that's not how it works and i'm just making things up)

if it runs on your pc time then that'd be way easier

i just remember there being a convo the other day about the math/time with the decimals and it being extremely specific

[cursive topaz]

Well estimation with a real world clock will get within 99.95% of perfect efficiency

[craggy umbra]

but again it only matters if you're doing 100% throughput efficiency

[cursive topaz]

If you take the times more than once and average them

[craggy umbra]

i think we might be talking about different types of time

[rigid wedge]

Why not just let it run and see what happens

Instead of viewing % efficiency view if it works or not

[craggy umbra]

cuz you can calculate the train route in real-world time but the load and unload of the train is going to happen according to the in-game clock/tick

[cursive topaz]

Yea so count that in the total

It will vary due to frame rates and frame times but yk perfect throughput isn’t possible

[craggy umbra]

how is it? i'm really excited about the sign zoop

[zenith pecan]

Tbh I never actually measured it, I just built a ramp downward and stopped when I began taking damage and cut it off there.

[craggy umbra]

yeah that's what i mean

[pliant dust]

ive not had any problems so far im most happy about the gamerules

[cunning sinew]

hypertubes are so convenient why arent they used more often for transportation?

i'm making an entire transportation system thru my factory with those

[pliant dust]

im running 5x space elevator parts and all pure nodes

[cursive topaz]

I want 2d zooping instead of just 1d

[craggy umbra]

real

[hard wolf]

hypertube cannons

[cursive topaz]

Have you made a cannon

[cunning sinew]

oh no i just unlocked the normal ones

[craggy umbra]

i need to be able to build massive concrete bricks with one zoop instead of 4000

[craggy umbra]

oh boy do i have a game mechanic for you

[cursive topaz]

Look up how to make a hypertub cannon

[pliant dust]

zooom

[craggy umbra]

i can't wait for the menu pause 🙏

[cursive topaz]

I find it funny how it wasn’t supposed to be a thing but the devs just left it cus it’s great

[craggy umbra]

it's so peak

it's my 2nd most used mode of transport

[hard wolf]

you line up 14 entrances and the speed stacks and launches you through the other side. don't forget to make the end of the cannon point up at an angle

[pliant dust]

lol i disabled it

[fickle pelican]

Also- when’s a good time to set up cadmium/quartz mining? When it becomes applicable or…?

[pliant dust]

so i can run my game while watching tv

[cunning sinew]

oh yea actually i saw that in a video i don't really enjoy unintended features much i'm trying to make everything look pretty (i failed, my factory is a block of cement)

[pliant dust]

i would say for crystal computers

[craggy umbra]

quartz you can use for decor but otherwise just set them up when applicable

[cursive topaz]

It’s more an intended thing now

[fickle pelican]

…. In English for the new players? lol

[pliant dust]

but you dont need a ton to beat phase 3 mostly phase 4

[hard wolf]

brutalist architecture as a concept would like to have a word with you

[cursive topaz]

The devs never patched it cus it’s great

[cunning sinew]

mmmm

[cunning sinew]

thing is i want it to look good but i'm not really sure how to also i'm tired of slaying hogs for awesome shop coupons

[pliant dust]

when you get fed up with hand crafting

[cursive topaz]

Start dumping excess resources into sinks

[finite mirage]

how to remove one of these
#screenshots message

[craggy umbra]

sink any extra parts you have.... i have factories just for sink resources lmao

[pliant dust]

but biggest thing i say for new players is build for the now dont worry about the future

[hard wolf]

are you automating the bits from protein to dna capsules across 5 machines and slooping the whole thing? because that definitely helps

[craggy umbra]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

upload your save and remove the player

[pliant dust]

or kill

[craggy umbra]

then save your changes and reload the new file

[craggy umbra]

afk multiplayer, you can't touch them

i had to do that once cuz somebody random managed to join my world without me noticing and i had to delete their player

[cunning sinew]

i haven't really found a "fast" way of obtaining carcasses so rn i'm doing it by hand, but you got a point that seems more interesting,

[finite mirage]

i see

[cunning sinew]

thing is i don't have anything in excess i'm so efficent i'm recycling everything already

[hard wolf]

if you sloop it it only takes 5 sloops and quadruples the output

[craggy umbra]

yeah tbh i'd just build a new factory for sink parts

[cunning sinew]

oh yea dw i'm turning it into dna capsules, i meant that i have a crafting station next to my sink

[cursive topaz]

Nobelisk he he

[cunning sinew]

my iron factory is all i got 💔

[cursive topaz]

Boom 💥

[craggy umbra]

i think i have an idle 2.5m ppm from that factory it's great

[cunning sinew]

i wish i could send screenshots here hold on

[cursive topaz]

#screenshots

[cunning sinew]

#screenshots message

[cursive topaz]

lol

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
now what

[cursive topaz]

Awww it’s cute

[pliant dust]

it'll disappear in time

[cunning sinew]

i think the block of cement could stick i just need to decorate the outside

[cursive topaz]

Don’t bother

[cunning sinew]

the first hypertube takes you to a crafting room with other hypertubes that lead to other areas, there's a crafting station and a bunch of storages for iron components

[cursive topaz]

You’ll need to tear it down and expand within 10 hours

Especially if you havnt gotten the space elevator places yet

[cunning sinew]

#screenshots message

[cunning sinew]

excuse me what

IT TOOK ME LIKE THE ENTIRE DAY YESTERDAY TO MAKE IT

[cursive topaz]

Oh yea you really thought that tiny think was gonna work long term

Sorry bud but your gonna need at least quadruple maybe five times the space to get though phase 2 and 3

[cunning sinew]

is the entire game about building factories and tearing them down 💔 does it at least get easier

[pliant dust]

once you get blueprints they become much faster so you can spend your time on decorating

[cursive topaz]

No it gets harder

But more fun

[cunning sinew]

where do i even store my stuff then, should i make like a huge storage system and keep it long term

[cursive topaz]

Cus you have more things to play with

And more stuff to handle

[cursive topaz]

You could build a mall, that is doable once you get the industrial storage unit

[cunning sinew]

so i go for that and then i make a maaaaall

mb keyboard is bluetooth and sometimes sends the same key 10 times

[pliant dust]

typically the game is more about throughput then massive backlogs

[cursive topaz]

lol

[cunning sinew]

sorry my main language is not english can u re elaborate in easy words

[cursive topaz]

I mean i would focus on just playing the game

Don’t worry about making it look nice

Just keep going make things how you want and just have fun

[cunning sinew]

well not necessarily nice i've been actually interessed in making a "operation base" with the storage

[pliant dust]

dont worry too much about storage itll run in the background

[cursive topaz]

Like I said probably an hour ago, you can play like josh, and make spaghetti or play like someone with OCD so severe if it’s not aligned to the world grid it’s pointless

And anywhere inbetween

[cunning sinew]

i'm i'm the ocd guy for sure

from your play experience what's the best spot for a mall?

[cursive topaz]

This game is like Minecraft just play how you want

[cursive topaz]

I don’t have one, and I just started phase 4

[cunning sinew]

oh you are the josh guy

[cursive topaz]

Considered one of the longest phases in the game

[cursive topaz]

Nope, more ocd. Things just scale fast

If you check #screenshots you can see my current build

[cunning sinew]

what if i were to make an exandable one, like if i wanted more slots i just add more storage units

[craggy umbra]

a lot of your factories are going to fulfill their purpose, run to capacity, and then sit idle until you need them. don't worry a ton about storing anything since the capacity (or "backlog" of parts) will just sit in your factory slots until you start it up again. your power plants are really going to be the only things constantly running, so don't stress too much about storing EVERY single part you produce

[cursive topaz]

I’m proud of my turbo fuel plant

[rich parrot]

Tearing down factories is not a good strategy. If a factory is producing a product, keep it. The map has more nodes than you can realistically use, so just move a bit and build a new factory.

[cursive topaz]

Yea you can do that

[cunning sinew]

#screenshots message oh dear jesus

[cursive topaz]

Yea I have 244 hours I say about 112 afk

[cunning sinew]

how do guys get their belts so well aligned btw

[cursive topaz]

Best $28 I have spent in a long time

[cunning sinew]

mine always get in crazy shapes and never do l turns so well

[cunning sinew]

i dont remember how much the game costed i bought it like in 2021

[dense violet]

use foundations

[cursive topaz]

Hold ctrl and use r to change to stright mode

[cursive topaz]

And this

[cursive topaz]

Like 35 or smth

Without sale

[cunning sinew]

OOOH

[craggy umbra]

place your belts on foundations, you can use your scroll wheel to rotate the fronts of your belts, and you can press H to lock your holograms and then your arrow keys and page up+down to nudge the belts around until they're where you want them. i've never used the ctrl-R method before but it also works to keep belts straight

[cursive topaz]

That’s a better explanation

[soft scroll]

hey folks, this might not be the right place, but anyone know how to use the co-ors in sf calc in game?

co-ords*

[craggy umbra]

like how to line up/find your position?

[cunning sinew]

ohh interesting, #screenshots message is there a fix to belts corners being uneven?

[dense violet]

afaik you don't

[cursive topaz]

Probably map hovering with the mouse and it shows the chords in the top right

[dense violet]

whats wrong with the image?

[craggy umbra]

unfortunately not, it's just because the rounded side on the belts turn wider than the inside

[cursive topaz]

World grid most of the time, and some times no sadly

And math

[dense violet]

this has nothing to do with the wg

[soft scroll]

how to use a co-ordinate in the map for somehting im trying to get to, and use it in game

[dense violet]

it's on foundations

[cunning sinew]

oh god pain

[craggy umbra]

one sec

[cursive topaz]

The world grid is life the world grid is law, we obey the world grid

[cunning sinew]

the corners dont align ergo not optimal efficency

[soft scroll]

im tring to get ot a crash site

[cursive topaz]

We speak well of the world grid, and meet bad about it

[dense violet]

they are the same corner

[dense violet]

the world grid is a noob trap

[cursive topaz]

The world grid is our guid

[dense violet]

only if you want your designs extremely restricted for no benefit

[cursive topaz]

I’m a wg cultist

Everything has to be an optimal use of space

[craggy umbra]

i only discovered it after 500 hours of building things

[soft scroll]

ty but whats confusing me to no end is 127,216 / -116,867 this is the co-ords given on the wiki

[rigid wedge]

World grid just makes things face in a set direction not influence it’s space

[rich parrot]

Space is the one resource that is never going to run out. You have infinite space for all practical purposes.

[cunning sinew]

#screenshots message i've just discovered a new physics shape guys

[soft scroll]

theres 2 sets of numbers for each

[dense violet]

eh, you never need to physically connect up each factory with foundations, but even if you do there's trivial ways to merge foundations

that way you can design things at any angle you want around the terrain

[craggy umbra]

since the world grid is so large the numbers are in thousands, so 127,216 is one number and -116,867 is the other

[soft scroll]

ooooh

[craggy umbra]

x and y

[soft scroll]

im a idiot, i was thinkiing the , was to denote a separate number...

[cunning sinew]

guys what's the best place to build an extendable mall that will carry me thru late game?

[rigid wedge]

What do you need a mall for?

[cursive topaz]

OCD

[craggy umbra]

probably in the grassy fields starter area cuz it's big and open and there aren't a lot of pure nodes over there that you'll want to use late game

[cunning sinew]

storage, i just saw people call magazines mall earlier tought it was the term

[dense violet]

mechanically? anywhere because it's not mechanically useful

in general there's never any best in the game unless you're very specific for what you want

[rigid wedge]

I have ocd and no mall

[soft scroll]

so how do i use that in the ingame map?

[cunning sinew]

mmmm ok ty guys

[cunning sinew]

where do you organize and categorize your product?

[cursive topaz]

So do I, that’s their 9 stuff

[dense violet]

you don't ? just have containers for storage near where it's made

[rigid wedge]

I don’t

[cunning sinew]

why would you not want a single area with EVERYTHING

[rigid wedge]

The depots are enough for me

[rigid wedge]

Because u gotta appreciate the nice map

[soft scroll]

nvm

[rich parrot]

Have you done exploration and found mercer spheres? You will be able to craft nifty things with those.

[rigid wedge]

And make trucks drive through the trees in bad angles

[soft scroll]

found it, divide by 100\

[craggy umbra]

yep

[cunning sinew]

i do, but i want to contribute by having my operation base somewhere

[dense violet]

for one, depots made them even more useless in 1.0

for two, even if you make a central mall, you don't know where you're building in teh future, it's often easier to just hit up a few hubs that may just be closer to wher eyou want to build
plus it takes tons of time and work to build a mall. WAY longer than the amoutn of time you save travelling

[cunning sinew]

i think i have like 5, they speak to me lmao

[cursive topaz]

He hasn’t built the elevator yet

[rich parrot]

Check MAM and do a bit of research there.

[craggy umbra]

it can be nice to have a huge upload hub for your depots though

[cunning sinew]

oh yea it wants me to get 10 sam but i'm not sure where it is yet

[cunning sinew]

exactly

[rigid wedge]

Put it in the middle of the red forest at the top

[dense violet]

you can do that exactly where you produce stuff

[cunning sinew]

oh i think i remember where that is bet

[cunning sinew]

okay but its nice to have rails everywhere bringing all your hard work to the central storage unit

[rigid wedge]

In the middle of the map and has infinite space because it’s so high up

[cursive topaz]

Did you start in the grassy feilds?

[cunning sinew]

i tought the game season turned to autumn when i went there 😭

[dense violet]

like , if you think it's fun to build a central mall? yeah sure go for it. But mechanically it's not useful

[cunning sinew]

yes

[cunning sinew]

i mean, what's the point of making all those factories if you don't create stuff for fun

[rigid wedge]

Still much better than the desert imo. Burns my eyes going there

[cursive topaz]

Ok go to the arch and make your way to the bottom of the hole in the ground, there is a sam node there

[dense violet]

that's what I mean, do what you find is fun. But yeah mechanically really doesn't matter where you put it

[cunning sinew]

okok bet

[dense violet]

unless you make some spefic requirements.
like you could pick a spot where you make a bit of most items that go into the mall w/o all that transport

[cursive topaz]

Just bring the weapon cus, there is an enemy down there that might make you poo your pants

It almost made me have a heart attacks

[craggy umbra]

is there a rad spider down there

stinger whatever

i've had the cat censor on since i saw those things

[cunning sinew]

I HADNT REALIZED IT WAS A CRATER LMFAO I DIED

[cursive topaz]

Just use platforms to drop down safely and ladders help as well

[cunning sinew]

theres one of those giant spiders

[cursive topaz]

Yea.. and alpha stinger

[cunning sinew]

wait can i use an excavator on that node?

[cursive crane]

Give em a hug

They friendly 🙂

[jolly solstice]

yuh it is not blocked by rocks

[cursive topaz]

The worst, most evil most horrible thing ever thought of

[cunning sinew]

i already went thru one when i found a purple slug 💔

[cursive topaz]

That’s why I have arachnophobia mode on

Hogwarts legacy’s arachnids didn’t make me want to throw my mouse at the wall, this game

Different

[cunning sinew]

YES I SLAYED THE BEAST

[cursive topaz]

I went looking for something a while back and encountered one for the first time. I swear I almost died

Literally like irl

[rich parrot]

Now you can humiliate it by turning its flesh to fuel, and then burn it to feed your hungry factories.

[cunning sinew]

exactly

[cursive topaz]

I’m not the only one who think the dev that came up with it, should be in jail right

Cus ehhhhhh no

Just no more spiders

[cunning sinew]

bro this alien tech is so moody "rivers of blood" stfu

OUR BONES ARE MORE BEAUTIFULL THAN YOURS BRO WE BONESHAMING NOW

[cursive topaz]

Just throw down a portable miner and gather a few stacks

[cunning sinew]

i can make a dimensional depot uploader soon

[cunning sinew]

yea thats what i did luckily i had one on hand

[cursive crane]

Better to just run a quick power line with a miner hooked up to a couple storage bins

[strange vortex]

Hello. I have no idea what to do rn. I complete tier 7 .-.

[cursive crane]

Tier 8

[cunning sinew]

oh yea imma need a bunch of that

[cursive topaz]

I automated it, quickly and dragged the belts over to my factory to sink the Sam for points

[cunning sinew]

wait what does this stuff even do

[cursive crane]

Check the mam

[cunning sinew]

does it help with the storage

[cursive topaz]

Its for the man early on, im sure its used in something late game

[cunning sinew]

there isnt really "use" written on the items while they are in an unlocked state

[cursive crane]

And definetely do that as fast as possible. DD is one of the most helpful things

[cunning sinew]

dd?

[cursive topaz]

And overclocking or over producing whatever it’s called

The somersloop one

[cunning sinew]

does using summerslops for increasing output consume more energy?

[cursive crane]

Press O to open the codex and listen to the voiceline for the unlock when you picked it up

[cursive topaz]

Exponentially

Have at least double the power if you want to use them

For that machine, just solve power early on and get coal power quickly

[rich parrot]

A fully slooped machine consumes 4x power. Add in full overclock and you're looking about 13x power draw 😛

[cursive topaz]

What cad said

I have a tone of turbo fuel so I’m at like 10GW

If 10,000 mw is 10 gw

[rich parrot]

That's a solid start. And when you turn that to rocket fuel you're gonna get a whole lot more.

[cursive topaz]

Imma go nuclear

[rich parrot]

That's also an option

[cursive topaz]

Cus radiation yum

I am also like really Good at power plants so I naturally just do them well

[cunning sinew]

boy i love hypertubes

[cursive topaz]

Just make one cannon, even if it’s creative

Just make one

To experience the weeeeeeee

[cursive crane]

Have you met our lord and savior the cannon?

[cunning sinew]

i've been introduced to it actually i just havent really needed the need to go that fast somewhere yet

[cursive crane]

You always have the need

Trust me, just make an entrance with one tube pointed into the sky after a cannon

Youll FIND needs

Or be like me and set up an entire hypertube cannon travel hub in the middle of the map to be able to travel to any edge of the map in .5s

[cunning sinew]

okay now that's cool hypertube cannon hub

now imagine this, an entire operational base with the hypercannon room, and then a mall storage

[cursive crane]

You can even use prio switches to make junctions that you can pick to auto travel anywhere

[cunning sinew]

consider i'm still in phase 1

[cursive crane]

Youll get there, if you need any help setting all that up theres plenty of youtube on it, or ping me

[cursive topaz]

Phase one oh to be young

Also @cunning sinew just spare one ficsit ticket and put it back into a skin small Easter egg

[rich parrot]

A word of warning: hypertubes were not originally meant to be used as cannons. The devs actually patched it out at one point, but so many people complained that they caved and patched it back in. The problem with them is that cannons are the ultimate form of travel and basically invalidate all other modes of transportation. If you wish to explore the game as the devs intended, I would recommend avoiding hypertube cannons at least on your first run.

[cursive topaz]

Ahh way to ruin the fun

It’s like a creative tnt world no actual use but it’s fun

[cunning sinew]

under what section is it?

[cursive topaz]

For the most part

[cunning sinew]

its my first playthru so i'm going for as the devs intended

[cursive topaz]

What?

Just take one cupon and put it back into a sink, if you have the sink yet

You might no my then I’m just blabbering for no reason

[sleek flower]

This is part of the non mandatory stuff that is for this precise reason absolutely mandatory to stack in ridiculous amounts

(the coupons)

[cunning sinew]

CYBER WAGON 😭

OH YEAH CONVEYORS MK3 ARE MUCH CHEAPER

[eager scaffold]

am i the only one who thinks mk5 belts are easier to mass produce than mk4 ,3 and 2?

[dense violet]

I think you only think that by not considering the bauxite refining process

[ivory condor]

Did the devs ever patch out cannons in ue4?

[wild hollow]

Bauxite is rarer, and you still have to deal with the whole water byproduct loop thing. I think the reason you say this is that by the time you get to Mk5, it's usually more efficient to utilize entire nodes because you need to build logistics for them anyway to bring them together in one spot, so you may as well max out at least an entire belt of the resource you need the most of, or an entire pipe. So the end result is often that you get a ton of aluminium.

[cunning sinew]

what do you guys do when you have too much material?

[dense violet]

eh the water by product is a trivial issue if you keep it split
but iron coal and limestone for hte previous belts are extremely common next to each

bauxite needs the centre of the map, fluid processing then smelting THEN mixing with copper

[ivory condor]

Overflow into sink?

[wild hollow]

Set up an AWESOME sink and run a container into it, then dump all the things I don't need into the container and hook it up to power.

That or I just delete it. Don't tell ADA

[cunning sinew]

honestly sink is pretty fair thanks guys

[rich parrot]

Sinking excess reanimated SAM is great for early coupons in Green Fields.

[hard wolf]

if you wanna be extra smart you can set up a bunch of smart splitters (that'll take a bit to unlock that, but they're very useful and can really simplify some complex systems) to sort out important stuff or stuff you want to hold on to, like late game items you might find at crash sites

[eager scaffold]

yeah true and the water byproduct aint really an issue as i can just limit the main water input after a single cycle

[wild hollow]

It's not an issue if you know what you're doing, true, but it's still way more complex than just adding more foundries and constructors for Mk3s

[opaque osprey]

Is it possible with tractor to stations to have specific outputs, i.e output one item out of one and a differennt item out the other

I want to transport some concrete but im worried I wont recieve it and just get only coal

[hard wolf]

you'd probably need 2 stations each delivering a different material or 2 stations delivering both but smart splitters separating out all of the coal. separate stations are probably easier

[opaque osprey]

Oh well that sucks

Ill just have to ramp it up and down

[eager scaffold]

i guess i just have major coal and steel issues'

[hybrid nymph]

I need to say this right now, Satisfactory is the Greatest Game of All Time, in the history of mankind, this is the best game ever made hands down

[valid epoch]

Perhaps, but I would love to see the map become bigger (no huge dark abyss anymore)
Sea exploration, more cretures to hunt and kill, naval shipping and etc...
But yeah, this game is awesome, can't wait for 1.2 come out of experimental.

[indigo geyser]

i have a tendancy of using coke steel when it becomes available. dont need much of that to get steel production up

[hybrid nymph]

This game is the purest form of everything I learned to enjoy over my entire gaming career, this was the game I was looking for my entire life

[cunning sinew]

so real tho sometimes it feels empty cause i pause and wonder what all the stuff im producing actually does, i procude stuff to make more stuff

[hybrid nymph]

Exactly, that's very true, but over my gaming career I have been searching for the "perfect game" then I eventually found this in 2023.
First in the year 2000 when I started gaming at age 4, I loved a game called Croc 2, I was poor so I would only get 1 new game a year if I was lucky. The next game I loved was Super Smash Bros Melee. After than it was Wizard 101. Next came Super Smash Bros Brawl. Afterwords came Diablo III. Later came Minecraft 1.5.2 when I started playing FTB Ultimate. After that was Killing Floor 1. Next was Borderlands 2. After that came Killing Floor 2. Then came Payday 2. Then No man's Sky. Then Finally in 2023 I got this game Satisfactory, and I have loved it ever since, I have logged well over 700 hours in this game. In terms of raw playtime my top 5 are: Modded Minecraft with 1200 hours, Diablo 3 with 900 hours Super Smash Bros Brawl with 856 hours, Satisfactory with 700+ hours, and No Man's Sky with 400 hours

[sleek flower]

investing 900 hours in Diablo but not in POE 🧟‍♂️

but i agree that in the "management / building" type of game, this is the one i enjoy the most

[hybrid nymph]

I played what I had, I got 1 new game a year if I was lucky, and if I wanted a new game I had to go over to a friend's house

so often I played a game all the way through 3-5 times before I put it away

I was so poor I didn't get my first game consolke until I was 10 years old!!

10 years old!

[sleek flower]

no worries it is just some rivalry between diablo and path of exile 😛
wont judge someone based on what they chose to or could play, it's pointless
if u enjoyed it, it's the only thing that mattered

got my first nintendo DS at 6 i think, and only played mario kart for like 3 or 4 years x)

[hybrid nymph]

When I was a kid, I had to play flash games on addicting games, because our disk drive stopped working and my dad refused to fix it

so I couldn't play Croc 2 anymore...

I logged about 500 hours in Super smash bros Melee

then I found wizard 101 when we got a new computer, and I played it for about 2 years and finished the game which only had 5 acts at the time

Then I got a Wii for christmas with Super Smash Bros Brawl in 2010

Then in 2012 I got Diablo III and played that for about a year

then I got Minecraft in 2013, played vanilla once, abandoned it once FTB Ultimate came out in 1.5.2

Next I found a gaming bar, remember those, at my local mall called Howie's Game Shack, it had 300 computers with i7 CPUs and GTX 970's, which was cutting edge tech at the time, and I went over there every weekend to paly Killing Floor 1

Next my former friend, who turned into a POS bought me Borderlands 2, and I played through the game all the way once,

Then I met a 37 year old woman at one of my yugioh tournaments

turns out she liked a game called Payday 2

and she bought it for me, and I loved it

Then she bought me no man's sky in 2022

Then FINALLY in 2023 she saw me playing Modded Minecraft again, and said I should try this game

I picked it up on Eneba for $25

and I loved it

Satisfactory was EVERYTHING I was looking for

It had the tech of Modded minecraft, the exploration of minecraft, and it had so much more!!

I fell in love with this game

That is my little anecdote of how I discovered that Satisfactory is the greatest game in the history of mankind

thank you for listening to my TED talk

[eager scaffold]

awe inspiring ted talk

[rough shore]

ngl man aint got time to read all that

but i read that u didnt know about payday 2 so im really hurt now

[hybrid nymph]

I was poor and didn't discover Steam until 2013

[eager scaffold]

sad thing for me is i just finished t8 and was about to build for space elevator parts but had golfers elbow for like 2 weeks couldnt play now the factory fever is gone and im afraid to put in so much work T_T

[hybrid nymph]

you should pick it back up again

I'm currently got back into No Man's Sky after they added the Pokemon update a few weeks ago, earlier this month

probably going to play this game again in May

ocne school finishes and I got more time

[eager scaffold]

R to switch modes form default to straight

[lofty juniper]

ty

[hybrid nymph]

This game and community is just perfect

[eager scaffold]

i might be a lunatic for wanting to restart from scratch build cleaner for no reason at all,
BUT mercer spheres harddrives says NO!!!

[dense violet]

why would you be an idiot? it's a great way to perfect basic skills you need for really clean builds and planning

[sleek flower]

the mercer run is painful ngl

[dense violet]

you only need a handful, and they're like cockroaches everywhere

[eager scaffold]

its not painful when im just casually strolling for 1 or 2 for universal depots but when its for upgrades taking like 13 or so its annoying

[sleek flower]

the last upgrades are long to get

the first couple is quick ur right

[eager scaffold]

you know what maybe, i might just maybe start from scratch and build modular

can someone delete my save file for me so im forced to start over? :V

[sleek flower]

diskpart; clean all;

:3

[shut turret]

Lol

[sleek flower]

might not wanna do it on your windows disk

[eager scaffold]

woops accidently wiped my whole D: drive folder instead of only satisfactory

:3

[sleek flower]

:3

[lyric zodiac]

Hello everyone - how do I unlock more hard drive rewards? I'm getting an error when scanning hard drives saying there are no more. But I have only got 8 choice pairs in my hard drive library

[mortal ginkgo]

its because hard drives can work only if you can use the recipes (machine is excluded from check)

for example you can get pure iron recipe even without refinery. but you can't get it without water extractor unlocked

you need to progress more in game via milestones to unlock more recipes

[dense violet]

unlock more tech

and pick recipes, make actual use of them instead of them being useless in the mam

[lyric zodiac]

I was building up the library of choices whilst I figured out which looked good and which seem useless (if only for now)

I've found a super computer, and a bunch of regular computers, and some motors - are they worth much in the sink?

wait nvm, I've checked the wiki

[mild finch]

I usually keep those to unlock more tech before actually doing the automation

The part you find on crash sites i mean

(And don't have yet automated)

[hybrid kestrel]

just finished phase 2 (like submitted stuff), i plan on doing a full rebuild. do you guys ever pipe anything to your main base? i did a brief look and saw people were using dimensional depos to store majority of outputs

[tall lantern]

dimensional depots make central storage redundant

and full rebuilds were always an unnecessary idea

(as are "main bases")

for general transport, generally easier to move solids than fluids so usually best to build by the fluid source rather than ship it

[rigid wedge]

if I do then its just a excuse for something else not really serving a purpose

[rigid wedge]

only till 1.2 tho

[hybrid kestrel]

i did everything so inefficiently & ugly the first time around and ive unlocked a bunch of better recipies since so i feel like its valid

[wispy condor]

@lyric zodiac you have all the recipes you can unlock , you can unlock more milestones to get more alts

[earnest condor]

I do full rebuilds like... every Phase.

[lyric zodiac]

What's your personal take on building central storage?

[earnest condor]

It used to be one of the most fun challenges of the game until the devs said 🖕 with the 1.0 update and addition of wifi storage.

[tall lantern]

it's not an uncommon sentiment. But, you could build new things without tearing down what you already have. Even if it's inefficient, it's still making something. Not like you'll run out of nodes on the map for most resources, so don't have to worry about "oh I'm not using these nodes to their best potential"

[indigo geyser]

ever since dimensional depots i dont bother with the traditional central storage

[leaden turret]

1. build somewhere else
2. encase in concrete and build on top

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah that's fair enough

[tall lantern]

I do sometimes wish the game had like overgrowth decor pieces so you could really sell that "this is an old outdated factory" vibe

[leaden turret]

looks at game

looks at entirely optional mechanic

challenge is still there dude

[earnest condor]

Not how people work. But 👍

[leaden turret]

normies not being able to say "I shall not use this optional thing" is weird

[earnest condor]

Sure 👍

Moving on.

[leaden turret]

rust shader in the customizer

I will however be annoyed that the "no free power" argument for no green energy falls apart when 1.0 shipped with a building that gives free power

[dense violet]

probably save them for unlocks

but also just pick whatever might be useful in the next factory. There's more drives on the map than recipes

[cursive crane]

Being one of the only buildings locked behind a lore accurate limited resource kinda fixes that

[dense violet]

they certainly made a lot of choices for 1.0

[cursive crane]

Most factory games with green energy have a hard time with that tbh. Green energy usually just turns into "free infinite energy so long as space and resources are available"

[leaden turret]

given that wind power is only effective in windy places and solar power is only effective in sunny places, it kinda does not.

[dense violet]

the things they did definitely can be described as choices

[leaden turret]

🌈 molten solar 🌈

-# requires water and line of sight with an extensive array of shiny shiny mirrors

[cursive crane]

Still results in MASSIVE energy farms, not totally disagreeing with you, would be nice, but I see the justification, there are certainly ways to do it, but I think we have a neat enough way of power as stands, MORE power would be... overpowered

[supple canopy]

APA are extremely limited compared to paving the dune desert with solar panels/wind turbines

the 30% boost should be downgraded to 10% though

oh wait nvm I'm a dumbass

[mild finch]

Depends how much solar produces

[cursive crane]

There are definetely ways to tune it, but I just dont think it fits with the lore and such, we are here to exploit lol

[mild finch]

If you make it so it needs direct sky access, give it variable power depending on time and weather, and make it so the size of the map limits it to levels achievable with nuclear... it is not OP

[cursive crane]

That would be in addition to nuclear/oil as is.
Which is where it would be op, being able to go into that many different ways of doing it would make the current gameloop break where you have to currently keep an eye on it until later stages.

[mild finch]

Unless you play with modifiers

[leaden turret]

photovoltaic solar: free energy once built
molten solar: requires fuel in the form of water, optionally also changing out the molten component every now and then

[mild finch]

Molten?

Aren't you just boiling water?

[supple canopy]

it would still throw early-mid game off balance
the only thing I wish day-night cycle would affect is excited photonic matter production, forcing people to use fluid buffers in their setup, that would balance EPM production. They would have to fix gas with buffers though

[leaden turret]

name a form of power generation that isn't just boiling water

that is in the game

[mild finch]

Not if you make solar require end game materials

[mild finch]

Biomass

in the game

[cursive crane]

Which would defeat the entire purpose of "green" energy

[ivory condor]

nothing is more green than nuclear power

[mild finch]

Mhm

[cursive crane]

Not being able to basically make glass and wires point at the sun until after ||being able to change matter|| would be off

[leaden turret]

so if you burn wood, how does that turn into electricity....

[mild finch]

In case you missed it, in the game

[leaden turret]

answer the question

[ivory condor]

but how does it turn into electricity

[cursive crane]

Shoutout to foundry and stationeers though. If you like using that kind of power they do it well

[supple canopy]

what he meant by "that is in the game" is coal powered, fuel powered, biomass burners IN REAL LIFE boil water

[mild finch]

Yeah no shit it does

[ivory condor]

obviously biomass burners boil water to, its just not outright stated

each unit a self contained amount of water to make it work

i mean its the only thing that makes logical sense here

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> do biomass burners boil water, or are they actually biochemically producing electricity by digesting biomass?

[cursive crane]

I like to think biomass burners are some form of peltier device, which would explain why they are so innefficient

[mild finch]

Some logical sense, but since ressources are infinite in the game, it makes sense

[cursive crane]

Imagine if we could attach vacuum pipes to the top of portable miners so we could fully automate them while taking full advantage of their outputs

[leaden turret]

that would suck

[cursive crane]

Imagine the s p a g e t t

[ivory condor]

so make all other miners useless?

and how much ore is that

[ornate saffron]

What did i wake to

[cursive crane]

Would it be? Would be ALOT of work

[ivory condor]

because that would be far beyond even a fully overclocked mk3 miner by the sound of it, by quite a margin

each node able to give thousands of ore per minute, maybe more

[cursive crane]

Wouldnt be able to zoop or join the pipes, they would each have to be attached section by section to one smelter

[ivory condor]

oh yes pain and suffering my friend welcome

[cursive crane]

P o r t a b l e

[mild finch]

Worth it, there aren't that many nodes

[leaden turret]

we already have vacuum tubes tho

[ivory condor]

attach hypertubes to portable miners, lets do it

[mild finch]

You get like 5 times the ressources or something similar

[cursive crane]

Minihypertubes?
Physics engine go brrrrr

[ivory condor]

imagine attaching hypertube cannons to the portable miners

physics engine go please send help...now

[cold berry]

Side note-if this conversation is making you crave a physics based automation game-Minemogul is very cool

I prefer satisfactory but it's different enough I still open it up every once in a while. Open early access tho

It's less about numbers logistics, more about physics logistics, because the ore and gems all have physics on the belts and bump into each other and such so you have to use conveyor walls, funnels, etc

[mossy salmon]

Hi, I see everyone else has excellent quality while I'm stuck with "classic" rendering even though my graphics settings are maxed out. What's causing this? (DirectX12, on Linux, with an NVIDIA card)

[leaden turret]

I need to check the updates to see if they've fixed some of the physics annoyances

[ornate saffron]

this will likely need some more details. Best to ask in #1038092680493801533

[abstract heron]

Should i ask mikael or jason to close his QP so no one else can chat

[dense violet]

no one is chatting in it

[leaden turret]

?

[abstract heron]

but i mean in cast they do chat in here #1496448125534208000 message

[dense violet]

why are you worrying about it?

[abstract heron]

cause i always worrie about it 😛

[dense violet]

it's not going to affect you or anyone else really. let them leave things as they want them

[leaden turret]

I pinged him 😛

[abstract heron]

where

[leaden turret]

in the thread

[abstract heron]

yes they need to lock it that one marv

and mikael said yesterday he does not want my pings minus when i reach 20k hrs

[ornate saffron]

@lyric zodiac You did nothing wrong. unlock more technology to learn more recipes

[sharp creek]

somehow a dog gave me a nuke

[valid epoch]

I haven't used one myself, even tho I can mass produce them.

I am stuck in phase 4 cuz I didn't properly build my factory and the difficult parts I feed their machines manually and hypertube between 2-4 bases that make different stuff.

[strange vortex]

I'm bored, what do i do?

Also what's the hardest achigment in satisfactory

[valid epoch]

Play some satisfactory

[strange vortex]

I cant

[abstract heron]

do modded playthogh on Satisfactory or do 1.2 stuff

[strange vortex]

Wdym 1.2 stuff? I live under rock

[hard wolf]

build a silicon circuit board factory that uses all of the world's resources, including SAM, to max out on ficsit coupons

[abstract heron]

or set a big goal in the game where it takes hrs and hrs to make

[valid epoch]

That's actually a good idea

[strange vortex]

I agree

[river ingot]

Yeah they do that

[lofty juniper]

💀

[ornate saffron]

Violence is the answer

[brisk crow]

What stage is oil-power unlocked?

[ornate saffron]

phasae 3

[brisk crow]

._.

oh..

[glossy scarab]

How big of a lake thing do I need to make a coal power plant?

(New)

I have access to 180 coal a min

But I would like to use most of it for steel if advised

[reef basin]

enough to sustain the amount of water you need

[brisk crow]

so after stage 2 i need to do the stage 3 to unlock it?

[glossy scarab]

Well idk how it works yet

[reef basin]

build a coal gen to see

[glossy scarab]

Ah

[ornate saffron]

if you started in the grasslands, to the north is a large lake with four coal nodes. it wil suplly all your needs

[glossy scarab]

I did not

[ornate saffron]

phase 1 is tier 1 and 2
Phase 2 is tier 3 and 4
Phase 3 is tier 5 and 6

[ornate saffron]

where did you start?

[glossy scarab]

How much coal a minute do I really need to put into it to not have to worry for awhile?

[brisk crow]

uff... then i am good

[rich parrot]

You could start with something like 8 coal gens. That's 120 coal/min.

[river ingot]

I usually do like 16 I think

[ornate saffron]

A coal generator uses 15 coal a minute.

[brisk crow]

i done 32

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[ornate saffron]

these are some proven setups

[glossy scarab]

I actually have access to mark 2 miner

So that’s like what? 240 a min?

One 60 one 120

Wait

I’m dumb

[elfin smelt]

throughput rate for miners is based on normal purity

[valid epoch]

Why I am stuck now:

• main base is near the starting location where 3 normal iron nodes meet.
• oil base is near the crater, it crafts anything requiring oil and water, cuz I have 4 pure oil nodes there. (I was supposed to do a big build to cover all that oil, HOR -> Diluted-> Turbo etc..., only built 8~ generators)
• nitrogen production is far away, it covers 4 products (bottled nitrogen, bottled nitric acid and the 2 components needed for the phase 4 stuff)
• uranium production is outside of the cave where the node is located, facing my main base, need to cover a small abyss to get there (built 5 nuclear power plants outside the same cave near the water source)
• barely any automation or long production lines. the lines I have for from node to product are: frames, reinforced plates, rotors.

[cursive crane]

Are you asking for help or...?

[ornate saffron]

you are never stuck. There is lots of resources. Leave that stuff functioning and build more else where. Big map ^_^

other then phase parts you can run things independant from eachother

[cursive crane]

I hate the "just build elsewhere" mindset

Like its never salvageable?

[ornate saffron]

everything is salvagable. But salvage impies it doesnt function. If it is functional whats the problem. Let it fulfill its function and build more

[paper loom]

did you guys know you can use alien power augmenter as isolated power source? Like powering an isolated factory or power up a crash droped pod... I just discover that 😂

[dense violet]

depends on node and belt

[next ivy]

if you dont want to wait forever, you kinda have to go and get more ore from somewhere else

the game is finishable on just the starter ores, but it might take a while

[ornate saffron]

ya, its great. When i do long exploration trips ill use it to power a Awesome sink to clear my inventory

[cursive crane]

Fix it up, improve on it

In this case it sounds like hes aware of the issues. Low automation, spread out factories, "main base near starting location"
So move the main base, build some automation and logistics. Hypertubes for transport, clean up and organize the low automation

[brisk crow]

vro the spiders are harrasing me wile i am building my power grid

[cursive crane]

So turn on retaliate only

Or m u r d e r

[ornate saffron]

if you enjoy rebuilding for sure. I personally hate rebuilding and deconstructing

[brisk crow]

i think this is the best option

[ornate saffron]

i like retaliate or peaceful. This is not my violence game.

I save violence for Tom nook

[brisk crow]

i am kinda new since i am going to build rn the Versatile Framework factory

since thats the last part i need to do phase 2

[ornate saffron]

Woot woot

the creature aggrestion level does NOT turn off achievments if that is a concern

[brisk crow]

idk why i made a automated wiring factory wich makes 10/min

[ornate saffron]

youll meed more later

[brisk crow]

how much more

[ornate saffron]

8100 to see credits

[brisk crow]

.-. what

[dense violet]

if you let what you're making now just pile up in storage you'll be fine

[ivory hemlock]

But I thought you use enemies for your munitions. I guess it still works but they don't fight you initially

[ornate saffron]

sometimes bloodlust even consumes me

[slender dagger]

Just got a PC yesterday coming from console, anyone know if you can use controller on the PC version of satisfactory 1.1? Or do I need to get the expiremental 1.2 to use controller

[ornate saffron]

this is a quick reference chart i made so i know how much i need. All the info is also on the wiki. I just dont always have the internet on my laptop
feel free to make a copy
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/178kqIzgqfe3_I67Ug9WC735b_muCYlzbMof-qr9eVIo/edit?gid=1086300554#gid=1086300554

[ornate saffron]

you can. you must click a toggle in options though

[brisk crow]

the smart plates aint hard

[slender dagger]

Okay, thanks!

[ornate saffron]

On steam i find some games makes me get a profile for the game. If you run into issues ill try to see hwat i can find. But from what i have heard from others its not a issue

[sour shoal]

Is there only impure uranium nodes in 1.1 ?

[ornate saffron]

I thihnk there is a normal

[sour shoal]

Okay ty

[ornate saffron]

3 impure 2 normal

!wikisearch uranium

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=uranium

[sour shoal]

K time to search them

[slender dagger]

I probably will run into a lot of issues lol I’ve been on console for my entire life and just bought a 4k pc setup for satisfactory….took me 3 hours to learn how to get the resolution right to play on a external monitor

[median barn]

Probably a silly question that’s been answered many times but… I’m trying to set up my first oil powered production.

I have a pure node using 3 shards to max it out to 600m3 with mk2 pipes.
10x refineries all making fuel with polymer resin making tiny amounts of rubber/plastic(ignore this aspect, I’m more mentioning it because of the fuel generation)
I have 20 fuel generators.

My question is would it be better to have my refineries to be 2 rows of 5 on either side of a central pipe… or should I keep my line of 10 refineries? My last 1-2 refineries are “stuttering” and idk it that’s normal or…

I don’t need any more plastic/rubber than I’m currently producing so I’m not worried about making a surplus of those or anything. I’m more interested in having this production being strictly power generation

[dense violet]

fewer jucntions tends to be more stable so yeah

[slender dagger]

Pipes get tricky, are you looking for strictly oil power or trying to go into rocket fuel/turbo fuel power?

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images though

[median barn]

For now just oil power. I’ll make a turbo/rocket fuel plant later in another biome, but I need a big jump in power production for now

[rigid wedge]

who would do that?

[slender dagger]

I ran mine in a row of like 5 refineries and it took a while to have all the pipes fill up and for it to get to 100% efficiency on my last couple refineries as well, I think flow limiters on my pipes helped a good bit but also deleting any small sections of pipe and making them longer helped me as well

[unkempt blade]

shouldn't matter much, just loop the pipe at the end of the row back to the beginning and let it fill up then see how the stuttering looks

[next ivy]

probably more people than you would think

[rigid wedge]

i was just thinking about putting a miner on every caterium node on the map and transporting it to 1 location for fun

[next ivy]

people are dumb

[dense violet]

if you want

[rigid wedge]

since in satisfactory you have infinite everything and everything is cheap to make as well I find that its basically asking me to do this stuff

[rigid wedge]

only thing stopping me is being uncertain if I might need it for something else later that i dont know of yet

[frozen ingot]

i'm on my, idk, 6th playthrough? since the test weekend before early access started. and I still get a rush when i get my first diluted packaged fuel power plant online 😄

[dense violet]

then move it again

[rigid wedge]

was planning to send it all into a refinery as well to maximize it

[frozen ingot]

alll that lovely power

[dense violet]

tempered caterium is very very good

few refineries, great output

[unkempt blade]

at least change the ore to ingots on-site and then transport the ingots to save yourself 2/3 of the logistics

[dense violet]

les fun of doing a big smeltery though

[unkempt blade]

that's fair, fun is fun after all

[ornate saffron]

the people here a re pretty helpful and friendly. #off-topic-tech is very helpful too

[median barn]

I’m trying to double this though. It’s a pure node so I’m able to produce 600m3 and using mk2 pipes so it can work. I’m just trying to figure out how to unflub the situation I’m in

[dense violet]

make a post, it's often impossible to diagnose pipes w/o lots of images

[rigid wedge]

no

[rigid wedge]

tempered is in the foundry

[dense violet]

yup! same output as pure

[rigid wedge]

tho that would be a good way to sink heavy oil residue and set up some of the alt recipes with rubber and plastic

[frozen ingot]

never used that before, greeny's tool seems to prefer the pure recipe though

[unkempt blade]

that's ok, you're an amazing talented person and I believe in your huge caterium megafactory dreams even if you're a logistics masochist

[frozen ingot]

i.e. from a resource efficiency perspective

[void cliff]

Anyone play satisfactory on Steam via MacOS?

[rigid wedge]

the resource gathering and transporting is more fun than building the factories using it

[dense violet]

wit uses it's own weights - restrict options by only checkign recipes yo uwant ot use

[frozen ingot]

yeah i just compared

did you mean 'which'?

[dense violet]

well, 'it'

[frozen ingot]

at first glance the pure recipe seems better to me

[dense violet]

but same thing
pure recipes turns the game into refinery simulator

you ... just build thousands of them

[frozen ingot]

ez though, especially now iwth blueprint auto connect

[dense violet]

tempered doesn't use much oil
yeah but they are ugly and huge

[frozen ingot]

but yeah i was looking at a pure iron/iron pipe based HMF factory i built a while ago on the scim map thing, and it was like 6 long rows of refineries all on the bottom floor 😄 for like 25HMF/min

[dense violet]

refinery simulator #design-and-architecture message

[rigid wedge]

That’s why I thought pick a spot, get it done and forget about it for the rest of the game

For caterium it makes sense to me but iron and copper not so much

[dense violet]

you're never done with refineries unless you actively stop with them 😛

[frozen ingot]

i fully embrace the pure recipes. Water and space are plentiful and it is a big yield increase

i've never done the leached stuff though

[dense violet]

why would you do that to yourself? solid steel pipes if you want to be 'efficient' on iron. going pure then iron pipe is just pain

[frozen ingot]

think i was just trying something new honestly

found a spot with enough iron, copper, and limestone and was just like fuck coal lol

and with the pure iron, the requirement for iron pipes isn't quite so bad

[dense violet]

i guess? lots of iron/coal spots on the map though

[frozen ingot]

true

prob won't do it again.

this playthrough i made two mk1 blueprints for iron only motors

and it's really highlighted just how much iron those iron pipes require 😆

but it's been neat. love blueprint auto-connect ❤️

trying to embrace blueprints more, it takes time but i'm hoping if i do it well, then come next playthrough, i can be really quick 😄

[dense violet]

I think iron is a trash resource and iron pipe is just too painful

especially sicne coal/iron is just so common

[unkempt blade]

yeah blueprints are definitely one of those things that get a lot more fun once you get a little practice with them

[frozen ingot]

think i was also trying to leave coal for diamonds maybe, idk

[rigid wedge]

for iron and copper im just using the foundry

2 in 1 shampoo for ores

[frozen ingot]

blueprint system is more powerful than i initially thought, and it def takes a while to embrace them

[dense violet]

there is SO much coal on the map. Also there's diamond recipes that uses other things

[frozen ingot]

especially when you were hoping to just copy paste an entire factory

[frozen ingot]

yeah i'm not sure if iw as thinking that honestly, it was a long time ago. Pretty sure i was just trying something different 😄

[dense violet]

fair 🙂

[frozen ingot]

or it was cos i realy wanted solid steel alt recipe and hadn't got it yet, that sounds likely, hah

[ornate saffron]

I think imma do turbo diamonds this time. I got oil in the blue crater i need to use up

[sour citrus]

For those on the experimental brunch, how pure nodes only affect gameplay?

[unkempt blade]

Variety really does make the building part of the game more fun for me. I know some people just want the biggest number but with BPs the effort between recipes is negligible and for an average save you're not going to run out of resources no matter what recipe you pick

[dense violet]

it doesn't affect things pre mk6 belts. Youre generaly limited by yoru belt speeds on nodes

[frozen ingot]

massively!

at least, if you want to embrace all out production

[ornate saffron]

it really puts pressure on people who have the "main base" midset lol

[frozen ingot]

i think pure nodes matter a lot right from the start? you get that much more output. less shards required etc

soon as you get mk2 miner a pure node maxes out your steel mk3 belts

[dense violet]

no? because again, you easily have enough power shards for miners so normal nodes are basically pure nodes

and there aren't that many impure nodes aroudn

slugs are just lying around

[frozen ingot]

just saying, it makes a lot of difference. if an impure node is now a normal node, or pure, it's a big difference

but arguably only in a bit of a minmaxy, i want to produce as much as possible, obessive kind of way 😄

[dense violet]

the main issue before end of tutorial is types of resources around forcing you to spread out. so it's certainly not going to pevent you from having to spread out

[ornate saffron]

I pity those who want to use the max ore from a node on pure. Theyll rebuild there factory everytime they get a new miner or belt lol

[frozen ingot]

like early on with a mk2 belt, a pure node mk1 miner maxes out that node, right

[dense violet]

and, as it is, your computer will catch fire before you can use all the world resources
w/o turning everything pure

[dense violet]

yeah too much work

[normal orbit]

you can overclock nodes early on too, purity doesnt really matter until end game

[ornate saffron]

if i NEEED those resources i just put a splitter infront of the miner and build another factory and leave the old the way it is

[rough shore]

huh

[unkempt blade]

I never really understand why more people don't just add a splitter when they update the miner and use the increase in ore to build something else instead of doing a rebuild

great minds think alike 😆

[dense violet]

or design the manifold to just extend further

[frozen ingot]

that's what i do 😄

[ornate saffron]

Lets say your node give you 120 ore/min. and you want to upgrade it. I would turn it into a mark 3 miner and max overclock it giving me 1200 ore. then place a smart splitter infront ANY set to the old factory so it always gets is 120 then overflow to then new factory so it gets 1080.

[unkempt blade]

there just seem to be a lot of people who get an itchy brain when a single node isn't making as much as possible and all getting used in one place

[rough shore]

ok yeah i was confused because u didnt mention upgrading the miner

[frozen ingot]

it's that kind of game 😆

[ornate saffron]

ah, I didnt type my complete thought. My apologies

[ornate saffron]

if thats how they get enjoyment, Im all for it. Personally this would lead me to burn out lol

[frozen ingot]

likewise, i like maxing out production in a general way but i'm def not as obsessive as some folks here 😄

i let myself get distracted by exploration and aesthetics and other things 😄

[ornate saffron]

lol me too. Sometimes i gotta use the ingame notepad to type the objective so i have a onscreen reminder for when i see something shiny

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game so it's good to have personal goals I just think a lot of people wind up picking goals that they stress themselves out with which isn't how I like to spend my gaming time

[frozen ingot]

yeah you gotta let your own heart drive your gameplay 😄

[ornate saffron]

no, my current run is designed to break all habits ive made in the past. For example I always build rocket fuel oin the blue crater so i used all the resoucres there for other projects asap

[frozen ingot]

next time skip rocket fuel entirely and go straight to nuclear 😉

that's what i'm gonna try and do 👀

[tall lantern]

ah, the pre-1.0 way

[reef basin]

the better way

[strange vortex]

I still dont understand how alien power augmeter works

[tall lantern]

attach to power network, get free power

feed in 5 matrices/min, get more "free" power

or whatever the amount is, think it's 5

[frozen ingot]

☝️

[green fiber]

you get 550 MW minimum and otherwise its just 550 MW plus whatever power you made before + 10%

[frozen ingot]

oh yeah i wanted to try a run that skips coal power entirely as well 😄

using the APA

would prob require shenanigans though

[normal orbit]

not really

two APAs is basically equal to 16 coal gens

[frozen ingot]

by shenanigans i mean a lot more biogens than i would usually build 😄

i was running on 2.4GW of coal power on my current run though

so yeah. urgh 😄

[green fiber]

skip to geothermal lol

[frozen ingot]

wow. totally forgot i was brewing coffee

irl..

[north furnace]

question yall for this : https://imgur.com/a/WNpaOuB
does adding 3 33.333 make a full 100 or not ?

[reef basin]

no

[north furnace]

:'

oké

[supple canopy]

not exactly but it won't cause you any major problem in the long run

plenty of setups require repeating decimals and that's ok

[dense violet]

you know you can post images in just about every channel on this server right?

[north furnace]

i mean goal is to have a stable power grid and having one gen at 80 % wont do it

[north furnace]

couldnt on this one

[ornate saffron]

the amount of times ive left coffee on the kitchen counter to remember when its cold.... put it in the microwave and forget it again. then 4 hours later have a powerfull headache lol\

[frozen ingot]

i think perhaps even ADA would agree that, before 'be efficient', comes 'the power grid must be stable' 😄

but maybe it is inclusive, hah

i don't usually have a second cup of coffee whilst at work so maybe it's that, but c'mon. my brain

[supple canopy]

by typing the clocking speed yourself the game is 4 decimal precise, by typing a formula it's even more precise, you won't run into issues for dozens of hours, and even if you do it'll rerun fine for another go

[reef basin]

you can do 33.3333+33.3333+33.3334

[north furnace]

then it will use 50.something pure oil that i dont have cause it's 450 split in 9

[reef basin]

then clock it so that you have it

[north furnace]

oil nodes are at max speed

one impure makes 150 with 3 shards and one normal makes 300
( using mults from exp )

[reef basin]

yeah but you can clock machines to match what you need

[fringe agate]

could anyone help me with why this water setup doesn't work? The machines it goes to aren't full, it just doesnt go up. my pump should work as it is only a headlift of 12.7m https://medal.tv/nl/games/satisfactory/clips/mzk6GXvSC3a4eStXQ?invite=cr-MSxSc1AsNDM2MDIyMjEx&v=0

[north furnace]

no ?

like again no

[reef basin]

yes?

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with many pictures

[fringe agate]

alright

[reef basin]

machines have clock speed settings

you can change it to the number you want

[dense violet]

your pump is probalby too high

[dense violet]

also you can post images in just about every channel in the server

[north furnace]

explain to me how i get more than 300 on that ? https://imgur.com/a/4AoxAwA

🧠

[dense violet]

for the love of god just post in the server

[north furnace]

I CANNOT
SEND IMAGES

[reef basin]

you make 300
you clock machines to need 300

[ornate saffron]

imgur is blocked in some locations. Move the covno to #math-and-meta so you can share images or #1038092680493801533

[fringe agate]

I couldn't here

[dense violet]

this is the only channel yo ucan't ! use any other channel

[supple canopy]

#math-and-meta

[north furnace]

i did and it gives 33.33

[dense violet]

yes gen chat is terrible to trouble shoot things in

[supple canopy]

what? I can open it fine here in France

[reef basin]

and what's the problem there?

[dense violet]

post in literally any other channel

there's a #screenshots if you want to trouble shoot things terribly

[ornate saffron]

fixed to "some locations "

[north furnace]

question was if i added 3 33.333 does it make an even 100 and ppl told me it didnt and you were conveinced i could fix it somehow wich i cant

[reef basin]

yeah, then use 33.3334

[north furnace]

yeah you're just not listning

[reef basin]

why not? 33.3334 would give you the clock speed you need to process your ore

[north furnace]

and i would USE 50.01

wich i DO NOT have

[reef basin]

which is not a problem, because the machine would just stop once in a few hours for a second

[dense violet]

then it'll just pause every 10,000 hrs

[supple canopy]

no, if you do 33.3333+33.3333+33.3334 you have 100 even

[north furnace]

yall aint understanding or reading shit

[dense violet]

then make a post #1038092680493801533 because you're explaining things very poorly

[reef basin]

well... you aren't

the fact that machine uses 50.01 doesn't mean it won't work with input of 50

[dense violet]

with images.
and numbers.
all in one spot

[supple canopy]

yea you're talking about 300 then 100 then 50 then heavy oil residue then coal like honestly i'm confused, you making turbofuel? @north furnace

[dense violet]

pinged to wrong person

[supple canopy]

yea sorry

[supple canopy]

you want to underclock 100 into 3 parts, just type 100/3 in the clockspeed%, you'll have no issues, I have been using that for the past 6 years, never had any problem

[reef basin]

it's better to round up if you care so much about the decimals

and in older versions it actually gave you very inaccurate number

(well, compared to 4 decimal precision that is. The number was still precise enough to not cause issues in any reasonable situation, unless exact precision was required)

[jolly ice]

Nuts, I forget, uhh
I already know I can split a pure resource node into 3 separate channels on a Mk1 miner, would I be able to split into 5-6 on a Mk2 miner on a pure node?

[tall lantern]

how you split is entirely independent of what you're splitting

[reef basin]

you can split anything into anything if numbers add up

[dense violet]

manifolds can split things any way you like

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[jolly ice]

Forget I asked

[tall lantern]

a mk2 miner can produce twice as much as a mk1 on the same purity of node, if that's what you mean

(assuming belts can keep up, but that's always a thing to keep in mind)

but as-is yeah your question doesn't mean much, you could split a mk1 normal into 2 lots of 30 or 6 lots of 10 or 5 5s and a 35 or whatever, as long as it doesn't exceed the 60 you're getting

more input amount means you can split into bigger chunks or more of the same size chunks, that's it

[normal orbit]

yes

[dense violet]

@reef basin we answered so much they left the server?

[reef basin]

couldn't bear with out answers

[fathom shuttle]

Scared the hoes away

[spare prism]

Hi

[ornate saffron]

[hybrid kestrel]

is there any way i can place the pipeline junctions facing up (rotated on a different axis) easily? im trying to pipe in from the top and split either side but its a whole thing

[ornate saffron]

place a pipe first then snap it to the pipe then rotate with the scroll wheel. After delete pipe and build as normal

[dense violet]

build against a wall

[supple canopy]

build one against a wall in the blueprint designer, delete wall, save blueprint

[hybrid kestrel]

thx guys

[hollow mountain]

im gonna crash out i cant get the alt fuel receipe 😢

[abstract heron]

like going to bed or just crash out of the game

[hollow mountain]

like im mad

[dense violet]

get more hard drives, always good to get more recipes

[hollow mountain]

iv got so many already

[dense violet]

get them all

all

[hollow mountain]

too much effort 😢

[dense violet]

all the recipes are useful. Better get on it

[abstract heron]

first thing when my items is producing is i do alt drive hunting

[hollow mountain]

like i only have 3.6 GM i need that alt recipe for a fuel generator

[dense violet]

eh, you can easily do coal power till tier 7

[hollow mountain]

thats where i am

[gleaming wasp]

is there as many hard drives as there are alt recipies?

[dense violet]

more

well you can always do normal fuel. It's fine.
either that or get more hard drives

[gleaming wasp]

what's the point of the extras?

[dense violet]

so you don't ahve to find all?

[hollow mountain]

i dont want to do normal fuel tho i want to go straight to turbo

[dense violet]

there's also a few +inventory slot results

[gleaming wasp]

oh yeah true

[dense violet]

turbo is unlocked int he MAM

[hollow mountain]

i know

but there is a fuel receipe with blander that i want

[gleaming wasp]

wouldn't reccomend, diluted is better at t7

[dense violet]

I mean you don't have to. there's shit tons of oil on the map

[gleaming wasp]

or rocket

[hollow mountain]

diluted? the alt blender?

[dense violet]

do you mean Turbo Blend? it's fine but its not world changing
decide what you dislike more, slightly less power fro ma bit of oil or finding more hard drives

[hollow mountain]

i have turbo bland already. but there is a normal fuel recipe with blander i want that

[dense violet]

"decide what you dislike more, slightly less power fro ma bit of oil or finding more hard drives"

[hollow mountain]

so it doesnt matter either way?

[dense violet]

not even a bit

there's a metric butt ton of oil on the map

[dense violet]

and the milestones are basically a tutorial

that won't really matter when you do your own projects

[hollow mountain]

well i just got it anyway

but you said i shouldnt do turbo fuel earlier no?

[dense violet]

it's not 'shouldn't it's just... not the end all be all fuel

you can easily finish the phases on regular fuel

hell you could do it with coal if you burned a fair bit of it

so much coal on the map

[violet glen]

It's very easy to skip Turbo Fuel and go straight rocket fuel

with the right alternate, Rocket Fuel is less of a headache than Turbo Fuel imo

[dense violet]

that's part of the reason why you should treat the milestones like a tutorial

at the end of hte phases you'll either

a) be done with the game so what you build now won't matter

or

b) you'll do your own projects and what yo ubuilt now won't be useful really

[abstract heron]

OH fun i got a GPU dump trigger

[violet glen]

Specially cause it's a gas, so you can trivially stack your gens

[abstract heron]

where is baldur

[hollow mountain]

WAIT REALLY?

[violet glen]

At least for me my coal plant carried me long enough to get the blender and nitro rocket fuel alt

[dense violet]

there's alt recipes for it.
but rocket fuel is also totally skipable.
basically just endless spaming of generators

[violet glen]

and then rocket fuel is just 5+4+4 machines for a full pipe

and a full pipe of rocket fuel runs 144 fuel gens at 100%

[hollow mountain]

i guess ill go unlock rocket fuel

[dense violet]

eh, nuclear is more interesting and you don't have a million generators

[violet glen]

you really want nitro rocket fuel alternate tho, without it, it needs turbo fuel as input, so is just MORE pain :D

ironically, with nitro rocket fuel, it's then easy to make turbo fuel as byproduct

[dense violet]

144 fuel gens? no, 14.4 nuclear gens

[hollow mountain]

yeah i just saw that

[abstract heron]

don't make a big platform you might crash?

[violet glen]

big platform?

[abstract heron]

yes i use mods where i have infinte zoop and currently making 100 nuclear pasta no overclocking minus only miners and extractors

[violet glen]

well, zooping 100+ foundations at once sounds plausible to overrun some internal buffer of some kind

[abstract heron]

lovely 18kMB or GB to 20kGB when my world comes in

[violet glen]

the hell is 20kGB? :D

[desert plover]

The loop of Nitro Rocket Fuel Generators is a lot simpler than any Nuclear one imo

Pretty easy to set up and just a bit of copy paste through blueprints

[dense violet]

with endless piping and generators

[violet glen]

You can put 150 oil -> 600 rocket fuel into one Mk2 blueprint iirc

[dense violet]

and nuclear just has more but smaller steps

[desert plover]

Nuclear does need some more love and attention 😅

[desert plover]

Yeah, that

[violet glen]

I did a 36 reactor nuclear plant, and it's so annoying and time intensive to build... I'll stick to rocket fuel for any future power needs I think

Just wanted to have done it once

Just the reactors alone are already annoying

then you need two~three extractors for each single one, a pump cause their water input is quite high up, ...

and then you still need to build the fuel rods, and deal with the waste

[abstract heron]

Trying again

the devs and the community mangers are like huh

[ornate saffron]

I did it recently, I didnt find it to bad, Although i spent a lot of time planning and under clocking machiens

[violet glen]

To build even more machines? :D

[brisk crow]

-_- peak now i wait for my factory to produce enought Versatile Frameworks

[violet glen]

time to go sloop/sphere/hdd hunting

[hearty flame]

do research while you wait

[brisk crow]

done all i culd

[hearty flame]

or artifact hunting

[bronze loom]

question: so from my understanding belts are what determines the speed of which items can export but say a miner only is mining 120 ore/min and the belts are 270/min, I will still only be exporting at the speed of the miner, 120/min? How does this work with truck stations, is it based off of trip time between stations that determines the amount of ore I can export/min?

[brisk crow]

i wll probably go look for more harddrives

[dense violet]

well trip time is a factor. Mostly if the truck takes too long you may need an extra truck for more throughput

but youre still limited by your belt speed in the end

[earnest condor]

And your input*

[violet glen]

you usually don't want to long-distance transport ore

they tend to be very non-compact

[earnest condor]

Tell that to everyone using Pure Copper to give 2.5x per ore 😉

[violet glen]

There's usually water somewhere reasonably nearby

[earnest condor]

Yes.
But you can transport 1000 ore, or 2500 ingots.
So in that context, transporting the ore is more compact.

[violet glen]

well, I wouldn't transport the ingots either :D

[ornate saffron]

I like moving dense parts. So i put that into consideration. For example if i need a butt ton of copper powder i may set up a metal works and ship the copper powder

[violet glen]

Isn't copper powder the opposite of dense? :D

[brisk crow]

bruh now i realized that i made a mess of a factory but it works at least..

[earnest condor]

I got my mk4 belts so I can start bringing my current P2 build up to standard 😭

This is the first time I've done it where I built everything to handle 480 input per miner and then just downclocked it to handle 240.

[abstract heron]

OKAY this is very annoying

[hybrid kestrel]

is the description for reanimated sam serious? like am i actually unable to store it normally w/o it messing stuff up

[dense violet]

no it's fine

[normal orbit]

built a factory once in tier 3/4 with the intended scale to be in tier 9 with mk6 belts and just upgraded belts/miners as i progressed. worked fairly well.

[untold grove]

Any tips for finding a crash site with high value materials to use in the SINK? (I'm still relatively early game - coal power stage, if that matters)

[dense violet]

look online for spoilers?

wiki might have a list

[brisk crow]

it dint work so i fixed it making it even more into a mess :D

[dense violet]

but if you just sink extra items you're making you'll get plenty of points as you explore and build

unless you're really going for some sort of competitive speed run it really doesn't matter

[brisk crow]

okay it finnaly works

but still idk how to fix the mess in the belts

[untold grove]

Most items give trash, I just want to know like if there are any crash sites with heavy modular frames and whatnot I can get to easily enough

[dense violet]

"look online for spoilers?

wiki might have a list"

[gleaming wasp]

i'm currently late p3 and i've been told that diluted is better. i use the packaged diluted fuel recipie, but i will be using the blender one next phase

[thick cave]

Yo chat I'm trying out creative and I have trains, why does it say a station is unreachable when I can drive to it

[placid stirrup]

@gleaming wasp the diluted packaged uses too mush room

[ornate saffron]

the wiki has all that info

[gleaming wasp]

good one bro, you got a good chuckle out of me

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1496711151952724199/Screenshot_20260422-231519.png?ex=69eb8922&is=69ea37a2&hm=cf2633c7a694785bb817d1ffbae6333388f19dc73ac24dc23efcccf8314d1387&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1715&height=965 it does?

[placid stirrup]

It was a pun, my friend

[ornate saffron]

personally space used is not a thing i think of. as space is the resource we have the most of. 2km above the map and 1 km below. and the map itself is almost 50km

[placid stirrup]

Oh boy I already regret my decisions

[dense violet]

it's your pun ishment

[placid stirrup]

I didn't get flak for the last 9 I made, so I guess one pun in ten did

[simple pebble]

Might be the way the station faces

The round end of the station marks the front

[thick cave]

They both face the right way as it's a giant loop

[ornate saffron]

Puns are against the rules. so i Assumed it was a typo 😛

[gleaming wasp]

for you see, champignon is french for mushroom @dense violet

[placid stirrup]

BAD puns

[ornate saffron]

My previous statement stands regarding your attempts

[bronze loom]

do conveyor lengths affect input/output time at all ? new to the game, still understanding it lol

[gleaming wasp]

nah

[ornate saffron]

once the belts are filled no

[thick cave]

Still says there unreachable

[simple pebble]

Hmm. Would need a pic to diagnose

[thick cave]

Fixed it

[placid stirrup]

You've killed a man today

[supple canopy]

#rules message

• Bad puns result in a lifetime ban.

[mortal ginkgo]

Where are mods? I am suffering blood loss from bad puns and they are not even around!

[thick cave]

Btw how do I get water on the train besides packaging it

[normal orbit]

pipe it into a fluid freight terminal

[thick cave]

It ain't going on the train tho

[gleaming wasp]

wait that's genuinely a rule?

there HAS to be a story behind that

[simple pebble]

Is the carriage on the train for that stop already loaded with something?

[normal orbit]

needs an empty freight car, train station in wrong direction, its not set to load, etc etc etc

[thick cave]

No

[thick cave]

It's set to load, all cars are empty

[simple pebble]

And the train's settings for the station don't omit or exclude loading water?

[thick cave]

No, actually I made it only load water and unload the sulfuric acid I'm doing

[simple pebble]

Huh, strange

[normal orbit]

sounds like station wrong way then

[thick cave]

No, the train is driving itself so

[supple canopy]

nah prolly a joke

[gleaming wasp]

nah but there's a story behind that, i'm sure of it

[normal orbit]

post pic(s) of station in #screenshots ?

[gleaming wasp]

you know what they say

[thick cave]

Ki

[gleaming wasp]

safety rules are written in blood

[reef basin]

In #1038092680493801533 is better