satisfactory

[civic ore]

Nice wasn’t sure if it was per item

[fluid sapphire]

pretty typical for me

#screenshots message

[rich parrot]

You can have 10 depots for concrete and get an upload rate of 2400 per min. The cap is still 5 stacks though, no matter how many depots you have.

[small crypt]

this guy pipes

[civic ore]

My reinforced steal beam factory is at 46 per min but I can double that if I want to, reckon I’ll be needed going forward?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah i had 4 but i doubled it when building the generators xd

[civic ore]

Still worth it for upload rate honestly, deffo gonna start doing that for materials I run out of

[small crypt]

concrete my beloathed

one feature i would love is if you dismantle something, and your depot is full, it would just void the items

[fluid sapphire]

i think i have 6 for concrete and there has only been one time i ran out, when i was building a 0.5km X 1km slab

[rich parrot]

Especially for concrete. If you have an industrial container before each depot, you will have endless concrete for all practical purposes. A single normal limestone mine is enough to fill them up over time.

With wet recipe at least.

I also like to have 3-4 for steel beams and silica, so it is more convenient to place large BPs with beams and windows.

[fluid sapphire]

an industrial container? just one runs out pretty quick

[rich parrot]

An industrial container per depot. With the mentioned 10 depots, that is quite a bit.

[neat anvil]

My blueprint I used before keeps crashing my game

[fluid sapphire]

you can hook them up in series though

#screenshots message

[ornate timber]

Dang I totally forgot how grindy this game is without mods

[fluid sapphire]

whats so grindy

[rich parrot]

Well, it doesn't really matter which way you set it up. The end result is the same: endless concrete for all practical purposes.

[fluid sapphire]

sure

[ornate timber]

lol my spelling sucks as usual and there is no spell check

[fluid sapphire]

not the auto correct on my phone teaching me to type like an idiot

[small crypt]

if i ever do a second run, im going to spit in the face if independence

i know every item that ever needs to be made, i'll just plan it out beforehand and make 1 factory for each item

[green fiber]

Isnt that still independance

If each item gets its own factory

[fiery pewter]

That's going to be a few small factories then

[small crypt]

no cause like computers for example i will just make 4x as many in 1 factory then send them to different places to be used and just make sure im not depleting

[green fiber]

Oh that way around

[small crypt]

instead of making computers 4 different times in 4 different factories

[green fiber]

Sounds like logistics will be your main enemy then

[small crypt]

on my deathbed i will have flashes of that

[neat anvil]

Can anyone help with a
Blueprint related issue

[small crypt]

yeah i think until drones it would be pretty tough to deal with because there's no quantity limit system outside of using a mk1 belt then doing looped splitters back to the input of your buffer then letting off the amount you want after it's been sufficiently halved

[green fiber]

Everything in moderation.
Theres no need to go with 100% of any playstyle

[fiery pewter]

Just have one train looping round

[green fiber]

Just ask the question and someone who knows will answer

[neat anvil]

My blueprint keeps crashing my game even though it worked before, and has no cost for some reason

[green fiber]

Hypertube cannon BP?

[small crypt]

train would deplete as much as it could hold, would still need to loop split mk1s back to inputs for each route out to limit quantity/minute

[fiery pewter]

Say you're automating 100 computers per minute, and need 25 per minute in 4 different factories, just have a train load up with 4 freight cars of computers, unloading one at every factory

[neat anvil]

Its a line of smelter

[fiery pewter]

I am also getting utterly confused rn

[fluid sapphire]

dont need to, you can just set the whole train to unload at every factory

[fiery pewter]

Went from advanced game settings to no advanced game settings?

[fiery pewter]

And then the entire train is emtpy before factory 2

[neat anvil]

Still normal settings but this one specific blueprint doesn’t have cost

[fiery pewter]

Weird

[small crypt]

shit now i wanna do a new game where i do that

[fluid sapphire]

its not, if its set to "one unload" it only unloads what fits in the buffer, and there cant be extra room in the buffer if a factory is only using 25 (after spin up time, just like a manifold)

[green fiber]

Dont know what causes this or how to resolve it other than make a new BP

[small crypt]

the prospect of only needing to build a factory one time for each item is enticing

[plush trellis]

Just before I start making it, I can send nuclear waste into The Sam as it not liquid?

[neat anvil]

Il go do that

[fiery pewter]

I am getting annoyed at the amount of ghost unreads in #satisfactory-memes

[small crypt]

make plutonium rods

[rich parrot]

It's better to not use corrupted BPs. You might end up corrupting the save.

[fiery pewter]

Or just non-fissle uranium and sink

[small crypt]

its just porn discord invites

[fiery pewter]

Crazy

[green fiber]

Non Fissile is not sinkable

[fiery pewter]

Awkward

So you must automate plutonium then

[small crypt]

idk why but this server is absolutely inundated with porn discord invite spam, more than any server ive ever seen. there's 30-40 a day just in this channel

[plush trellis]

Yeah I do that after I started making fuel. But I want to make sure I have all the stuff first to make plutonium.

[fiery pewter]

Big servers attract more bots

[fluid sapphire]

i hadnt seen that many until yesterday

[small crypt]

idk maybe they heard satisfactory players like to lay pipe

and run trains

[plush trellis]

The answer is yes…? Can I sink the waste

[small crypt]

you can sink the plutonium rods you make from the waste, but not the waste

or make a platform far away where all your waste is stored then trap a space giraffe tick penguin whale thing there to be punished for its crimes of loitering

[fiery pewter]

Beans-being-able-to-check-if-they-can-spawn when

Great annoyance to find them stuck with 3 pixels of their leg in a foundation

#satisfactory-memes message glorgus the three-th

[green fiber]

no. need to process it first

[ornate saffron]

You can only sink uranium ore, uranium rods and plutonium rods.

[rough shore]

u can also sink almost all items not just these 3

[ornate saffron]

Those three you can sink. They are they only ones in the nuclear power production chain that can be sunk

[cold berry]

Is 18 iron smelters enough for my phase 1-4 factory? I'm going to get to satisfactory calculator and see what it says I can do with that

That was rhetorical

[tall lantern]

then why ask

[cold berry]

Just did the math, looks like 20 will be enough

My guesstimate was close

IDK, I was just being dumb lol

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1493213153285378108

i dont get it

if i give it 400 resin it uses it all up and 0 crude
if i dont it uses crude but only produces 60 resin ...

[cold berry]

That's 20 HMF per minute, 40 rotors, 40 reinforced plates, 60 iron plates and 400 screws per minute. Cool.

[rough shore]

yeah everything u said was cool except the last part why 400 screws u do not need that amount or any amount even

[tall lantern]

nothing wrong with screws

they're just a filter that separates out people too lazy to learn

[fluid sapphire]

i progress just fine with my learning disability, thanks

[rough shore]

your welcome

[rough shore]

?

[fluid sapphire]

making a dozen products in the same tab, i guess you'll just have to analyze the monster you have created

[indigo pumice]

what do i do with all the dark matter i dont need?

[plush trellis]

Can I sink the non fissle uranium?

[fluid sapphire]

residue?

[indigo pumice]

yeah

[fluid sapphire]

simplest is to use the crystallization alt and just sink it

[tall lantern]

no, only the rods

no way around it, either you store uranium waste or you process at least up to plutonium fuel rod

[rough shore]

if u dont want dark matter residue dont make dark matter residue 🤷‍♂️

[fluid sapphire]

its an unavoidable byproduct

lmaoo i never thought i would need to upgrade my quickwire uploading setup

[brittle dune]

encased uranium cell

[tall lantern]

it's the stuff after uranium waste that's of interest here really

[brittle dune]

It's just free dark matter crystals

[abstract heron]

yay i did a thingy yay

[brittle dune]

Considering the dark matter crystallisation recipe

[rough shore]

what are we yaying about

[abstract heron]

want me to explain

[rough shore]

if u want us to yay with u

[abstract heron]

i asked jason to update the YT chanels on Coffee stain studios chanel playlists and HE DID

[rough shore]

yay

[grand stump]

hey guys! Sorry to barge in, I have a quick question about trains! I'm not sure if it would be wiser of me having a factory for ingots and then just sending the ingots and producing the rest on the other factory sites or just have something like a plates factory and one for rods and then just use the trains to send those in instead

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, literally what i said

[fluid sapphire]

i would advise against centralizing very basic products, its hard to predict and build at scale for unknown future needs

for some things i think it can be an OK strategy if you need them in small quantities at a time, like aluminum or plastic/rubber

iron being so abundant and all over the place i dont think its really worth it

[tall lantern]

also centralising means locking yourself into a particular set of recipes, even if more appropriate recipes might become available later (where "appropriate" depends on how you compare them and what you have available locally)

[fluid sapphire]

well, i personally dont centralize anything until i settle on the recipes, then i also import all the raw goods so local availability is irrelevant

[grand stump]

So you guys use trains only for raw resources? Like ores etc

[tall lantern]

not necessarily, I just don't centralise at all

[grand stump]

I see I see

My thought process was: Oh I can make a factory for reinforced iron plates and can then ship them to wherever I need em

[brittle dune]

Yeah I don't really pre produce like that

Maybe I might take some excess from a factory with a surplus of smth but the point of that factory wasn't to make that item, it just happens to

Like I'm planning to use some compacted coal from my rocket fuel build for steel

Or that my rocket fuel build takes aluminum ingots from my RCU+SC build

[grand stump]

I see I see

Since you're overproducing stuff you're just getting the excess elsewhere

[brittle dune]

I also obsess over numbers being clean and using nodes fully

And also didn't see the reason to not use all the bauxite nodes in the swamp if I need aluminum for my RCUs there anyway

[brittle dune]

It's why I'm team Satisfactory Modeler for life

[grand stump]

xD I've been using it this playthrough, it's really usefull

[brittle dune]

love its ✨customizability✨

Full calculator mode is ass tho

Don't know why it's the default

[grand stump]

I'm not new to the game, but I'm trying to do new things this time lol

[grand stump]

... I may have been using it then... how do I change it

[brittle dune]

It's in the settings in the top right menu

Manual lets you play around with numbers much more and also doesn't brick itself (aka it's actually fast)

(Like instant fast)

[grand stump]

oh damn, this was something that was bothering me a lot lol

[brittle dune]

Yeah I have no idea why it's the default

Every time I bring up SfM I mention that the full mode sucks ass

Because people might try it and think its garbage because of the full mode

[grand stump]

lowkey happened to me lol

I'm playing around with the all pure nodes and trying to get the most out of them, but it's been very hard being limited by belts lol

[tall lantern]

hard to do anything useful with all that even with max belts, there's so much on the map

[brittle dune]

I'm currently trying not to touch pure nodes with mk3 miners until I get mk6 belts

[jagged nymph]

why

you can always just split the belt later

[brittle dune]

It's easier

[abstract heron]

i sometimes hate it when the depo can only do 1000 its sometimes annoying

[brittle dune]

I can work just fine off normals and impures for the time being anyway

[brittle dune]

?

[abstract heron]

the depos they only hold 1000 tier 5 belts

[brittle dune]

Oh you mean the stack size not the input rate

Yeah it's only 5 stacks max

Seems fine to me

If you put a buffer before them they'll fill back at the 240/m rate

[frail sleet]

yeah but if you have a blueprint with 1020 belts in it then it will fail to place entirely

[crude canyon]

Wym full calc

[tall lantern]

take a handful out into inventory

[brittle dune]

There's calculator modes

[crude canyon]

What does that do

[brittle dune]

They should have descriptions in the options

[crude canyon]

Well I'm out of the house for the moment

[brittle dune]

Imo there's no point in using anything other than regular manual

[crude canyon]

But yeah the amount of required aluminium is pretty crazy

Honestly the amount of things later on that require rcus is nuts

I needed around 10

And I didn't even do turbo motors

[grand stump]

The Manual calculator does NOT take into account how splitters and mergers prefer to split/merge.
Split and merge ratios must be defined by machine limits.
Priority splitters and mergers are useless in this mode.
This requires more values to be entered than Full mode.
If conflicting values are entered, some will be ignored. It is arbitrary which ones, so don't use conflicting values.
This ensures the proper input and output ratios for all machines and conveyors.
Some machines may be calculated as higher than entered or even negative if other values you entered require it to be so.
It is your resonsibility to adjust the entered values to ensure it is what you want.
It is your responsibility to ensure when building in game, that the splitters and mergers behave the way you want.
This calcualtor is very fast, even for large builds.

I'm still trying to understand the manual tbh lol

[ornate saffron]

I stand corrected, Although i dont see the point of sinking that but i guess the option is nice

[cosmic junco]

yeah, but manual mode is actually usable at any meaningful scale

[ornate saffron]

@twin dust Context matters a little. The BWD gives you 2.4 mil a minute for example ^_^. Point can get a little silly for sure though

#screenshots message

[cold berry]

I will be minimizing screw usage, but I still want some for my DD.

I'll feel incomplete if I have a blank spot in my DD

[ornate saffron]

you need one stack of screws for personal use

[cold berry]

Yes lol

Maybe I'll lower it to 200 output for screws honestly.

I don't use them that much.

[ornate saffron]

i mean ever lol. Seems silly as they are used in everything IRL

[tall lantern]

never know, you might want to build a few thousand awesome shops

[cold berry]

If I go to build a machine with screws and can't, I'll be sad 🙁

[grand stump]

yea I was just copying and pasting the description xD

[tall lantern]

but yeah milestones and awesome shops are literally the only things you use screws for outside of production lines

i guess there might be some crash sites out there

but then they also come with plenty of screws anyway

[reef basin]

any particular reason to minimise screws? 🤔

[cold berry]

They're annoying compared to alternative recipes. It requires 2 constructors per assembler when I go Modular (I do individuated assembler-constructor assemblies for a lot). Though I don't plan to completely ditch them, I'll be using the more reasonable screw recipes (sub-20-per-minute base, and only using steel screws)

For those

[twin dust]

🤔

[latent prawn]

one other minor use for screws i've found if you make a crate of them and stick them in a dimensional depot, along with the other ingredients for the base HMF recipe, is you can handcraft HMF's at crash sites if your inventory is getting too full

[brittle dune]

Yeah lol

[ornate saffron]

If you put all that effort into to making them you are likely going to keep going down the production chain lol

[abstract heron]

i think having 5k refeinrys or much is breaking my game 😛

[timid rune]

oh yep that will do it

[ornate saffron]

double that, those are rockie numbers

[abstract heron]

i am also thinking making a qa site post idk HOW

[plush trellis]

You wanna see my base which is large BECAUSE I CANT SINK WASTE

[ornate saffron]

keep that process chain going, Getting to pluto rods is easy once you got the waste covered

[plush trellis]

#screenshots message

[timid rune]

that is some wonderful piping haha

tbf I am not that much better... #screenshots message

[plush trellis]

It’s not like I need it. I have enough power as is

At least yours is neat

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[timid rune]

It'd have been much neater if I forgot about not letting mk2 pipes go to 600m^2

[abstract heron]

i might do 500k refeinrys or something to see if i can break the game a ton

[ornate saffron]

first time is the hardest

[timid rune]

I'd have done Converter at 200% -> Particle Accelerator at 200% )<- Converter at 200% -> Particle Accelerator at 200% <- Converter at 200%

[abstract heron]

yikes my game is at 15k MB

[timid rune]

instead of chaining 3 x Converter -> 2x PA

[ornate saffron]

Oh, I under clocked most my machines

[timid rune]

My save ended up having problem with Uobject limit

[ornate saffron]

ah

[abstract heron]

u can up it but then it umm goes funky

[ornate saffron]

I have yet to raise the limit since i reinstalled the game.

[timid rune]

probably because of mods lol

[abstract heron]

Why did u reinstalled the game?

[ornate saffron]

windows reasons

this save is going really well though, so ill likely have to at somepoint

[abstract heron]

ya i am at 248k uobject stuff

Thats why i am hoping in 1.2 it can go down a bit

[ornate saffron]

you can always hope

[abstract heron]

due to i use mods i won't be updating

[ornate saffron]

I understand, I have vanilla friendly mods but i cannot play without SKYUI for another 2-3 months

[abstract heron]

for me its sky ui and pak mod those 2 i MUST have

[ornate saffron]

Night time puts to much strain on my eyes,

[abstract heron]

i also hate disco night

[timid rune]

I like small train stations

[ornate saffron]

Me too, I built a simple one frieght plateform train station last night. It was so cute

I should make a little Ghibli Spirited away train station.

[timid rune]

and probably modular load balancer

[worn oar]

How many of those can I make per minute?

[brittle dune]

What's the limit?

[worn oar]

2.1 million, keep building

[weary condor]

Absolutely 🎀

[faint locust]

Is there any reason I would want to use animal products for anything other than sinking dna capsules?

[dense violet]

after research? you use meat for medical inhalers

[heavy sigil]

gmornin

[dapper cave]

Pretty thankful that this game controls so well on controller. I wasnt expecting it to. I play it on pc but this just makes the grind more relaxing....when possible lol

[dapper hollow]

quick question is "total_machine_count": "113988.157" allot of machines?

[heavy sigil]

agreed, just switched to pc and I see why they took so long to adapt the controls, so many buttons

[heavy sigil]

I think that is under the math-and-meta channel...?

[dapper hollow]

i asked but no one was active

[heavy sigil]

a

[dapper hollow]

so I decide to ask quickly here and since its such a small question i thought theres no point in asking in the questions forum

[heavy sigil]

welp, id help but idk anythyng tecnichal related, srry

[dapper hollow]

alright

[heavy sigil]

also, idk how you got a decimal ammount of machines lol

[dapper hollow]

underclocked overclocked

[heavy sigil]

Oooooo

[dapper hollow]

ig

[heavy sigil]

makes enough sense to me

[dapper hollow]

idk actually just figured

[dapper hollow]

yh

[heavy sigil]

welp, off to playing more I go, cya, and good luck w/your question

[stuck canopy]

you do it differently?

[dapper cave]

Its tough to port pc controls to controller so yk, im grateful. Its fluid

[white dawn]

In the early game, remains are really good for bio fuel

[rough shore]

fluid reference?

[heavy sigil]

so... I just joined the server through the game, the game closed in the process, but steam says its still running...?

I already told it to stop the game but it seems to be stuck like that, is there any other thing im missing before I go ask task manager?

help task manager is not responding

also satisfactory was not there, so I told it to close steam

[cold berry]

It seems like everyone either loves or hates screws with a passion? Anyone else like me and just kinda mildly dislike screws for some recipes, while using them for others?

I never find any fellow screw-neutral people. Some screw recipes are decent IMO

Especially with alts like steel screws

[rough shore]

steel screws is just worse than the normal recipe

[heavy sigil]

Idc abt screws too much after getting steel screws since I got it at the beggining

[cold berry]

Yeah but you can skip the rods with it, meaning one constructor

[rough shore]

no i mean its more screws

[heavy sigil]

well idk abt you but I havent ran out of screws at all w/that, and on my previous acct I was lacking

[rough shore]

more screws < less to no screws idk what else to tell u 🤷‍♂️

[heavy sigil]

and that´s a problem because...?

[rough shore]

cuz they are screws

[heavy sigil]

yeah? just recicle the rest?

[placid stirrup]

What's your stance on quickwire?

[rough shore]

great

[heavy sigil]

....

[cold berry]

Damn I need to get steel rotors alrernate

[heavy sigil]

there´s a steel rotors alternate?

[reef basin]

and that's a problem? screws are just another item to make

[reef basin]

ah yeah the expensive one

[heavy sigil]

also taske mgr did not help and steam still shows satisfactory as running 🙁

[reef basin]

worse how?

[rough shore]

its more screws

[rough shore]

i mean its mandatory thats why im saying great it has uses but screws can be entirely avoided

[reef basin]

and that's worse?

[heavy sigil]

RECICLE THE REST

[reef basin]

screws can be avoided, but that isn't a reason to do so

[rough shore]

sir this is the second time u misspelled the word recycle and its getting out of hand

[heavy sigil]

srry, not first language, and also get that with multiple words

RECYCLE THE REST

[rough shore]

why recycle when i can just not use them to not have to recycle them in the first place pal

[heavy sigil]

brb, imma reset the entire pc to see if that fixes my steam problem

[dapper cave]

Im a pro-screwer cause I gotta throw them into stuff for my space elevator lol. I just started. Kinda forced to like them rn. Future opinions pending

[placid stirrup]

Yeah exactly. Lots of one-track minds here regarding screws

[heavy sigil]

this isnt over pengmer minecraftGrassBlock

[rough shore]

its pretty much over but alr Alibryx

[heavy sigil]

Extra ticket progress

[heavy sigil]

Love how you dont deny the last name implications lol

[rough shore]

Barely anything

[fiery pewter]

I wield the ultimate conversation ender

[rough shore]

go on

[fiery pewter]

Y'all should move to #off-topic-general

[rough shore]

sir we are talking about screws

[fiery pewter]

No-one continues their convo after that

[heavy sigil]

d´oh

[fiery pewter]

This don't look like screw

[rough shore]

It explicity says in the channel description to not use this as a secondary #satisfactory channel pal

[heavy sigil]

I identify as a screw 😄

[placid stirrup]

I have the real ender: does anyone want to play on my save? New player, need help please

[heavy sigil]

Ooooo thats a good one

[rough shore]

yeah no terrible one wrong channel #1201555265942724758

[fiery pewter]

Counterarguments: #1201555265942724758 and #1038092680493801533

[placid stirrup]

Aaaand are we talking about screws still?

[rough shore]

❌🤢 🤮
That's the end of it.

[fiery pewter]

Screws are excellent to truly get the hang of belting

[placid stirrup]

(you took the bait)

[heavy sigil]

[fiery pewter]

Wasn't the only one

[heavy sigil]

1/1 Co-Founders agree

[fiery pewter]

The other RNRAAD Co-Founder ain't here

[heavy sigil]

1/2+

what im actually annoyed of are fluds

i have a lotta compacted coal, but my 4 250% overloaded pumps seem to not be handled well enough 🙁

[placid stirrup]

Extractors? Pushing 600 through a pipe can be difficult

[heavy sigil]

yeah, extractors, srry

[heavy sigil]

I still got just mk1 pipes, ill try a different approach rn, but I swear it was not like this on my first acct 🙁

[placid stirrup]

Fluids tend to be a common struggle, which is why McGalleon made the pipe manual

[royal mortar]

what is wrong with the sorting. i don't know how often i fixed this, but every time i look, the game screwed it up, AGAIN 😭 #screenshots message

[gleaming wasp]

do yall make megafactories or a collection of smaller factories across the world?

[ornate saffron]

looks right to me, Descending order

[placid stirrup]

Independency factories, for the most part. You need a heck of a rig if you want to pull off a mega factory, not to mention the logistical challenges that come with it

[gleaming wasp]

are you referencing bringing all the materials from their respective nodes to the factories?

[smoky forge]

no smaller sub factories

for example plastic and rubber

[supple canopy]

no I have that issue as well with blueprinted curved roads, I have 5° | 10° | 15° | 20° and it always goes 5 | 15 | 20 | 10 upon ever load

[gleaming wasp]

idk i feel like from a logistical perspective, both types of factories can be difficult

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[gleaming wasp]

either way, you're going to having to moving resources across most of the map

[ripe basin]

Hello people

[placid stirrup]

Yes, but you can choose where your dedicated factories are. Spots that are central to the nodes you need typically exist. With alts, you can change what resources those end up being if it makes a certain spot more preferable.

[ornate saffron]

[gleaming wasp]

is there a large difference in efficiency?

i really like the look of absolutely massive factories, but i also want an efficient factory

[placid stirrup]

If we're talking about resource usage and machine uptime efficiency, that's still always up to the individual player

[gleaming wasp]

so i can be just as efficient as an independent factory creator if i plan well?

my dream is to be 100% efficient in every aspect

is that feasible?

like every production building, miner and power source has 100% uptime

[placid stirrup]

Yes, with diminishing returns based on time spent getting there. You'll spend so much time managing clocking that could have otherwise went to progressing in-game. Certainly a challenge if you wish to take it on.

There are also intermittent processes like dealing with creature remains and power shard production, which are the most "efficient" way of dealing with them vs hand crafting, but you won't have those at 100% uptime

[royal mortar]

technically yes, but the game doesn't respect manual sorting or supports any kind of "natural" sorting

[gleaming wasp]

creature remains?

[smoky forge]

if you want to have a straight line with max consumption and consumption i gotta disapoint you buddy

[gleaming wasp]

what about creature remains?

[smoky forge]

slooping

[ornate saffron]

I know there is a ticket on the qa site for this, join use and upvote autosorting features !

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[gleaming wasp]

i haven't really messed around with sloops all that much, but i thought that they were just like power shards as in you put them in the machine, you can go away, and you get the buff

[smoky forge]

its 2x the output for literaly 0 more input

[placid stirrup]

Ahh true at P4+ this does become impossible.

[smoky forge]

just 4x power consumption

[gleaming wasp]

yes?

[smoky forge]

yes

[gleaming wasp]

i'll just build a massive power plant

or only use sloops when absolutely necessary

[smoky forge]

oh i just thought u didnt know about what sloops do

[gleaming wasp]

but why would that get in the way of 100% power production?

[smoky forge]

no not the slooping

the machines in endgame

end mid to end game

[gleaming wasp]

what about em? (im p3 btw)

[smoky forge]

you will find out soon enough

the first one will be in p4

:) happy frustrating

[gleaming wasp]

i don't care about spoilers

[smoky forge]

well the chat rules do

[gleaming wasp]

js use the spoiler tag

||like this||

[placid stirrup]

||Certain machines have variable power consumption, this is a fixed feature||

[smoky forge]

and i just choose to not spoiler because it will be an astonishing machine once you build it

[smoky forge]

i know what that is

[gleaming wasp]

||like the geothermal plants, but instead of production it's consumption?||

[smoky forge]

yep

[placid stirrup]

Basically. I don't think you can artificially engineer geo to match the other machines either

[smoky forge]

||and the very last machine does it even worse||

[smoky forge]

not even close

[placid stirrup]

Like maybe all the geo on the map for 2 of them hahaha

[smoky forge]

yeah XD

hold on imma eat spaghetti

[gleaming wasp]

||can i just sync up their consumption? i understand i won't be able to have my beloved perfectly straight line, but i will settle for a curvy line if need be||

[placid stirrup]

RIP your DNA

[fiery pewter]

Eats belts

[placid stirrup]

I answered this above haha

[gleaming wasp]

||like a sine graph||

[royal mortar]

well, i found 2 of them. 2 and 3 years old. lets be real. unless some famous streamers or something complain about such things, this will never be addressed ...

[smoky forge]

LOL I FORGOR

im in satisfactory chat oml

XD

[gleaming wasp]

||yeah, but i'm a little confused. what i'm just trying to avoid is a gross spiky line which has random dips and jumps in elevation||

[placid stirrup]

It'll still be sinusoidal

[fiery pewter]

Have a fully charged, humongeous battery bank and an underpowered grid

Also we all saw that right

[ornate saffron]

Tickets are judged on game impact and player upvotes.

It maybe several years old but it is still relevant. The people who makes the tickets see current interactions

[gleaming wasp]

||that won't fix the production line on the graph||

[fiery pewter]

It will

If your production never changes

[smoky forge]

nu uh

[smoky forge]

...

[gleaming wasp]

||do multiple buildings have this feature of varying energy consumption? if so, can i sync up the buildings?||

[smoky forge]

there are 3

[royal mortar]

chainsaw still doesn't like liquid biofuel?

[smoky forge]

not sure

[gleaming wasp]

||do power shards change the speed at which the consumption varies?||

[smoky forge]

yep

2x speed of that said variation and else

[green fiber]

Faster processing speed = faster power fluctuation

The oscillations are exactly as long as it takes to finish a recipe

[royal mortar]

apparently not #screenshots message

[brittle dune]

||is it sinusoidal for the quantum encoder too?||

[smoky forge]

then no it only accepts solid biofuel

[smoky forge]

its not

especialy if you have more than 10 on the map

[heavy sigil]

A mix of both

[placid stirrup]

Ope, my bad!

[brittle dune]

What

[green fiber]

No, its a ||random square wave||

[smoky forge]

i mean you could technicaly hook em all up at the exact same milisecond

[gleaming wasp]

||is the cycle length of the building with the longest cycle =< the cycle lenyh of the building with the shortest cycle × 2.5?||

[smoky forge]

for that to work but other than that you will have a wobbly line

[placid stirrup]

Maybe it wouldn't be noticeable if you're making 50,000 TW 🙃

[smoky forge]

not random

exact patern

[green fiber]

I know its not random but i basically is

[smoky forge]

yeah basically

[gleaming wasp]

||sorry, that's poorly worded. what i'm trying to ask is if i can make all three machines sync up using the power shards||

[smoky forge]

you can hook them up to power at the exact same time and they will be equal in fluctuation

[green fiber]

Power shard syncing is only part of it, you need to offset machine cycles by half if you wanna "cancel out" a wave

[keen tundra]

I'm trying to find a good place for a motor and heavy modular frame factory

[smoky forge]

o yeah you can also just do it like that

[smoky forge]

dont search for a place

[gleaming wasp]

but it will take different times for them to start considering that they are at different points along the production line

[smoky forge]

get the resorces to your place

[smoky forge]

yes

[gleaming wasp]

if you're really stuck, just build a massive foundation floor above the void

[green fiber]

Honestly this is a futile attempt at a flat power graph

[heavy sigil]

Oh, thats why most of the chat is censored

[faint willow]

So I started over. Desert starting area instead of the grassy area. That main base I built up was pissing me off because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to.

Still having that alignment issue. Belt's not going where I want it to when it's straight, it's slightly off-center. Nudging does nothing even with ctrl + arrow keys. Probably cuz I'm building on foundations.

[gleaming wasp]

again, i've come to terms that my precious flat power graph will never come to fruition

i just want to know if i can at least have a sine wave-esque graph

[smoky forge]

you didnt place the starting belt straight

[timber patio]

IS THERE an alternative recipe for coal? im running out of it in my world and need a solution

[brittle dune]

Trains already throw the consumption off tbh
As long as my production is flat, I'm good

[smoky forge]

||no only biocoal or charcoal ||

[gleaming wasp]

coke fuel

[faint willow]

Oh no, that's not it. If I place the miner on the foundations it's off by maybe a half-tick each direction.

[green fiber]

Its called Tier ||9||

[gleaming wasp]

with crude oil

[keen tundra]

I was thinking of putting the factory on the coal nodes need the green grass lands

[faint willow]

I might have to place a belt support down before I place the belt itself, force it to go straight after the initial placement.

[smoky forge]

you could mod your game for infinite nudge

to nudge miners

[faint willow]

Might work. Do you know if mods kill achievements like in other games?

[brittle dune]

I was about to say that(unlimited nudge) became a vanilla thing but what

[smoky forge]

no i dont think so

[green fiber]

Mods dont

[smoky forge]

since when is nudging extractors and miners vanilla?

[brittle dune]

Bruh

[rough shore]

since now ig

crazy things be happening fr

[smoky forge]

ye fr fr

[green fiber]

To get back to this:
No

Theres 3 different waves

Saw wave
Sine wave
Square wave with pseudo-random pattern

[rough shore]

they also made goat simulator so u genuinely can expect anything

[smoky forge]

they also be adding mk4 pipes

[brittle dune]

Gee thanks you two /s

[rough shore]

we are three

[smoky forge]

XD

[green fiber]

The third wave type especially is very disjointed and jumpy

[faint willow]

Okay, follow up question. Mods. Workshop or Nexus?

[smoky forge]

well im only 1

[timber patio]

man u just solved a huge problem for me, thank you

[green fiber]

Neither

[rough shore]

and im one and mcgalleon is one i think

[green fiber]

We have a standalone manager and loader for mods

[gleaming wasp]

yes, it might be a bit annoying to make a long conveyor belt for the coal.

however, the upside is space. if you ever wish to expand your factory or make a closer factory, you might have to start working around geological features, which can be quite annoying.

the upside with a massive void platform is that you can just.. build more real estate if need's be.

[faint willow]

External download or in-game MM?

[green fiber]

External

[brittle dune]

mf, I was talking about being surprised by the concept of miner nudge??

[faint willow]

damn

[green fiber]

Ficsit.app is the website that hosts all mods

[smoky forge]

o yeah thats a mod bc people like that guy got too anoyed by miners

[green fiber]

But it is the official modding community

[rough shore]

who says its official

[gleaming wasp]

you mean there is three different types of waves i can create?

[green fiber]

well "official"
Officially supported community

[brittle dune]

Nobody would seriously claim that miner nudging is vanilla

[green fiber]

Yes

[rough shore]

so unofficially official

[smoky forge]

yes ofc.

[smoky forge]

[gleaming wasp]

so my sine wave is possible?

[dapper cave]

In todays episode of avoiding a mental breakdown, tryna fix my garbage organization before I add more things to the assembly line. Back to my 9-5

[brittle dune]

Yet you thought I did

[rough shore]

cuz u did 🤷‍♂️

[smoky forge]

theoredicaly, but not with trains

[smoky forge]

only 50/50

[gleaming wasp]

wasn't planning on using trains anyways. long ass conveyor lines mog.

[green fiber]

If you only use one machine type per power network.

not if you mix all 3. Then you cannot realistically get a sine wave

[smoky forge]

lmao alr

[brittle dune]

Is my edit clarification really that unclear?

[gleaming wasp]

can i not just over/underclock to sync them up?

[smoky forge]

for a straight line? no

[green fiber]

You cannot sync a sine wave with a square wave to get a sine wave

[brittle dune]

Sounds like a fools errand

[green fiber]

Let alone a pseudo random square wave

[smoky forge]

LOL u said that not me

[gleaming wasp]

where is this idea of a square wave coming from?

[rough shore]

what waves are we talking about guys

[green fiber]

Encoder machine

[fossil hatch]

i had a quuick question, for the biomass burners, if letrs say im using it to power 10mw worth of something and then another one to power 30mw, wil one run out of fuuel faster if I puut the same in each

[brittle dune]

Just like trying to get geothermal plants to perfectly cancel out

[smoky forge]

1 second 0 power, then 1 second 2000

and so on

[brittle dune]

It's a phrase people use

[gleaming wasp]

i just want a nice graph man

[rough shore]

not possible

[smoky forge]

its realy not

[gleaming wasp]

oh that sucks

[smoky forge]

and besides that, stop worying on your first playthrough, get to p4 first

[empty bridge]

Hi All. If you delete a storage container, what happens to the contents?

[green fiber]

Everyone who doesnt want to get spoiled look away:

||https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Quantum_Encoder||

[smoky forge]

drops on the floor or into your inv

[green fiber]

Teleport into your pockets if they fit.

Else it lands on the floor in a crate

[smoky forge]

[empty bridge]

and if you don't have enough storage slots left, what happens then?

[smoky forge]

floor

[green fiber]

Lands on the floor in a crate

[empty bridge]

basically, I want to move a storage container from its current position

[green fiber]

It literally creates a new crate

[gleaming wasp]

this is my second. i got a turbofuel plant up and running but it was so horrifically unoptimised that i deleted my save file in a fit of sheer rage

[green fiber]

A tiny one

[smoky forge]

make a belt

[smoky forge]

man u is no healthy gamer

[fossil hatch]

i had a quuick question, for the biomass burners, if letrs say im using it to power 10mw worth of something and then another one to power 30mw, wil one run out of fuuel faster if I puut the same in each

[smoky forge]

dont worry about past builds, plan for the next

[green fiber]

They both will make power at the requestes rate and the one with less fuel in it will run out first if thats what you mean.

[smoky forge]

they balance each other out , and if only 10 is consumption then they will also only produce 10

[fossil hatch]

i just wanna know if like i put the same in each but ones uuses more power will that onoe run out quicker

[brittle dune]

Same amount of fuel is going to have the same amount of energy
Same amount of fuel is going to be used during x amount of time making y power regardless of how many burners its split among

[smoky forge]

not if they are on the same power grid

[gleaming wasp]

it was before i figured out there was external software for satisfactory so i spent 20+ hours in desmos of doing the calculations, forgetting to write them down, having a better idea for a plant, having to redo all of the last processes..

[green fiber]

If both are connected to the same power grid they won't make different amounts of power

[fossil hatch]

okay thaknhs

[smoky forge]

yeah and also.. turbo fuel is the worst fuel type

just so yk

[brittle dune]

No way

[green fiber]

Turbo worse than default fuel

[tall lantern]

no that's ionised

[gleaming wasp]

ive been told either ionised or dilute

is the best

[smoky forge]

well yeah but thats extremely late game

[green fiber]

Ionised not.

Rocket fuel yes

[tall lantern]

turbo's fine, diluted's fine, rocket fuel's fine

[smoky forge]

?

[brittle dune]

Yall hatin on the fuels way too much

[supple canopy]

plutonium fuel rod is the best fuel

[tall lantern]

ionised just costs too much power to make that you don't really net anything (IIRC it might even be net negative over just burning the RF)

[smoky forge]

yes

[brittle dune]

I don't belive that

[smoky forge]

but complicated for most casual players

[green fiber]

Coal is the best fuel

[smoky forge]

calculate it

[tall lantern]

chuck it in a planner and see ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky forge]

[tall lantern]

rocket fuel's just strong

[supple canopy]

it can be negative with dark-ion alt recipe, but not necessarily

[tall lantern]

even if you come out barely positive, that's still a lot of work for very little gain

[green fiber]

Default ionized is afaik only a marginal increase and Dark Ion is apparently horrid

[ornate saffron]

The best fuel is the fuel you can access ^_^

[green fiber]

Ficsonium my beloved

[fossil hatch]

do u guys think I should convert to coal popwer before or after i complete phase 2

[tall lantern]

before

automated power is good

[gleaming wasp]

the sooner the better

[supple canopy]

it's a way to profit off dumping DMR

[tall lantern]

usually best to beeline that asap

[smoky forge]

yeah yeah you

[smoky forge]

as soon as possible

[gleaming wasp]

well there has to be a best

[supple canopy]

just get to ficsonium ASAP

[smoky forge]

rocket

[gleaming wasp]

yeah but i'm thinking late late game

[smoky forge]

is the best in balance of complexity and expensivenes

[south sinew]

ionised sucks ass, and turbofuel isn't really great, it's really diluted fuel and then either you move to rocket or nuclear

[smoky forge]

late late its plutonium

but it is hard to setup i gotta warn u

[tall lantern]

best by what metric

[gleaming wasp]

why not a hybrid if rocket fuel and nuclear?

[gleaming wasp]

the power you get

[tall lantern]

welcome to Satisfactory where almost everything is subjective depending on what you want to optimise

[smoky forge]

plutonium

[fossil hatch]

where is that likke what tier

[south sinew]

If you're going to the effort of dealing with nuclear waste, you may as well just go all in on that, it seems a bit odd to put in all the effort of doing both setups

[smoky forge]

||9||

[tall lantern]

power per what

[south sinew]

it's a lot easier to just build one setup twice as large instead of building two setups

[tall lantern]

if we're just talking power fullstop then that's whichever one you pump the most resources into

[south sinew]

ficsonium is a bad joke, I hope they buff it in 1.2

[green fiber]

I can do the same with default ionised though, whats your point?

[tall lantern]

1000 fuel > 1 rocket fuel

[smoky forge]

no he means per 1 item or 1m³

[gleaming wasp]

most amount of power achieved while accounting for the power used to obtain the aforementioned power source

[south sinew]

I think that particular crown goes to rocket fuel just because there's so much more oil on the map than uranium, you can build a metric shitload of rocket fuel

but whether you actually need terawatts is a whole other story

[green fiber]

Rocket just wins

[smoky forge]

that is probably maby posibly uranium?

im not sure

[tall lantern]

per what input? per oil (the base), per total items, any weighting?

or just slapping in the whole map resources and assuming there's no other factories

[rough shore]

salutations

[gleaming wasp]

do you need turbofuel to make rocket fuel?

[smoky forge]

no power gained to power lost in production he means

[rough shore]

do you?

[smoky forge]

not in all recepies

[south sinew]

no, there's a generally superior alt which lets you skip direct to rocket fuel

[smoky forge]

its sigma

[gleaming wasp]

because i have a shit ton of coal laying around due to circumnavigating the need for steel through alternate recipies

[cold berry]

I like steel. It's fun.

[gleaming wasp]

please tell me more about this recipie

[south sinew]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Rocket_Fuel see nitr orocket fuel

but also avoiding the need for steel seems weird as well, you don't really save anything you desperately need, it's more efficient on iron than most iron alternatives and you don't desperately need coal for much else

[plucky bone]

300 oil, 72000MW 🙂

[gleaming wasp]

what do i do with the one compacted coal?

[exotic frigate]

Im on turbofuel which is great. I just cant use rocket fuel yet cause I dont have aluminum yet

[south sinew]

use that to make turbofuel and then upgrade that little stream of turbofuel to rocket with the default recipe

or just sink it

[gleaming wasp]

that seems complex but doable

[gleaming wasp]

eh that's boring

[green fiber]

Coal generators

[gleaming wasp]

the alt recipie you just sent me asks for coal though

[south sinew]

yeah, but 2 coal for 6 rocket fuel is quite little coal; sulfur is harder to come by and needed more

[lavish cypress]

is satis calc broke cause im tryin to load my save and its takin longin then it did pre 1.0

[south sinew]

plus you get half that coal back out in the compacted coal if you choose to use it

[exotic frigate]

Theres a lovely spot with oil, nitrogen, coal, sulfur and iron all together

And water

[gleaming wasp]

please can you tell me where it is?

[south sinew]

the blue crater? that's in the south east

it's pretty great for making RF as you have all the ingredients right there

[exotic frigate]

Find the giant mushroom trees to the southeast. Itll have a geyser somewhere in the middle of a big lake

If you started in the first spawn option, itll be north east from there

[south sinew]

you can follow the south edge of the map east to find it

[gleaming wasp]

aight thx

[rough shore]

why cant we combine a ballistic warp drive with rocket fuel to make a rocket

[south sinew]

I don't think warp drives require rocket fuel

[wise junco]

you dont require rocket fuel

[exotic frigate]

Thats not ficsit patented

[worn oar]

Ficsit can pressurize my dark matter crystal for all I care

[red sun]

Is this a euphemism

[gleaming wasp]

i thought the idea was that the warp drive is strapped to a rocket

[exotic frigate]

Thats not very productive of you, pioneer

[gleaming wasp]

that's what i got from the item description

[gleaming wasp]

she pressurise on my dark matter crystal until i ficsit

[south sinew]

That would require a lot more than just rocket fuel; like rocket engines, fuel tanks, etc

[exotic frigate]

We can't really know because a "warp engine" doesnt exist in real life, and we don't know how the one in game works entirely

[gleaming wasp]

yeah but i thought the motors n stuff were the "rocket", even if they aren't a rocket in the way we know them

[somber kraken]

Wrong channel my bad

[south sinew]

If they were, you wouldn't need a space elevator to launch them

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, most of of my production lines are a single tab each, sometimes they are split into multiple

it keeps the graphs smaller and simpler to parse

[rough shore]

make power poles carry a max power limit frfr

[gleaming wasp]

absolutely not

[exotic frigate]

Not necessarily. If you already have a a built space elevator, its more efficient to send things up via the elevator

Especially because you don't use any fuel and the parts dont get damaged from a launch

[rough shore]

literally same as using screws frfr

[gleaming wasp]

i do NOT use screws

[rough shore]

🫡

[mystic urchin]

#screenshots message I found a bug, disassembled drop pods are visible from distance despite not being physically there
It's roughly 800m away when visible, moving forward a few meters doesn't show it anymore

[gleaming wasp]

for the fuel

do i use dilute fuel?

to get the fuel?

[south sinew]

yes

[gleaming wasp]

kk thx

[rough shore]

use packaged diluted fuel fr

[next ivy]

are you on a server

[mystic urchin]

No

[next ivy]

thats the only time it happened for me 👍

[worn oar]

It's the ghost of pioneers past

[gleaming wasp]

follow-up question: is it optimal to use sloops on all the blenders that are making the rf?

[rough shore]

no u use all the sloops for iron ingots

[tropic juniper]

definately sloop copper wire

[rough shore]

and 1 power augmenter

[fleet pulsar]

you should use power shards on your blenders to overclock it. You will save on sloops that way

[south sinew]

sloops is optimal everywhere; the only question is where you need them the most

[gleaming wasp]

would max slooping 8 blenders be that expensive?

[south sinew]

8 blenders? I thought you wanted the maximum power source or something

[gleaming wasp]

yeah

i do

[south sinew]

you're gonna need a lot more than 8 blenders

[gleaming wasp]

huh?

why?

[sleek token]

Do hard drive drop pods only spawn in during certain phases of the space elevator or what causes them to spawn in?

[south sinew]

They are always spawned; nothing causes them to spawn in. You just need to go find them

[ornate saffron]

they are not spawned they are static and always there

[gleaming wasp]

oh yeah you're right

[south sinew]

because 8 blenders can't possibly consume all the oil/sulfur/etc to produce the maximum power

[sleek token]

SCIM says some aren't spawned in yet

[gleaming wasp]

that was if i was on a normal node with no overclocking on the oil extreactor

[south sinew]

At most, that just means that you didn't go near them so the game skipped on spawning them to improve performance

[south sinew]

not to mention that there's a lot more than one oil node

[gleaming wasp]

rf is a gas right?

[south sinew]

yes

[gleaming wasp]

that's tight

gases are peak

[rough shore]

its not a liquid thats all i know

[south sinew]

truthfully you could sloop the blenders but value per sloop is not that high compared to other places you could sloop

[gleaming wasp]

imo the game should introduce them first, because they're easier to deal with than fluids

[gleaming wasp]

yeah you're right

[rough shore]

yeah but water

[south sinew]

the production chain for being able to package them, however, is not

[gleaming wasp]

you have a point there

[rough shore]

u cant tell me u can get rocket fuel before water

[gleaming wasp]

they could add a different gas

[rough shore]

like?

[gleaming wasp]

like oxygen

you need a lot od oxygen to form iron oxide or sum

[rough shore]

yeah but coal power needs water

[south sinew]

you mean.. you want to actively produce iron ore? that thing that you dig out of the ground and need to spend power to unmake?

[unkempt blade]

I'm confused - since when does RF require water?

[fossil hatch]

im trying to setup m coal power generator but how am i supposed to get the needed poewr to power the coal generartor

[rough shore]

when did i say that screw guy

[south sinew]

there's no logical use for gasses early on

[fossil hatch]

or dooes each one produce 75mw

[rough shore]

im just saying in what world would it make sense that u get rocket fuel before getting water

[unkempt blade]

the message I replied to seems to say that 🙂

[gleaming wasp]

it just seems foolish to introduce the easiest method to move stuff in the late game

[south sinew]

they produce power, not consume it, you need some startup power to power the coal mine/water extractor until they are working, after that they are self-sustaining

[gleaming wasp]

it's even easier than belts in many aspects

[rough shore]

uhhhh no

[mystic urchin]

What is easier than belts

[rough shore]

factory carts

[mystic urchin]

Uh

[rough shore]

uh sir imma need u to remove that last reaction please thank you

[mystic urchin]

Since when does the bot react to people

[rough shore]

since at least 2 minutes ago

well imma go like do my thing and things

[unkempt blade]

It's become sentient. It can tell when messages deserve a donut

[fleet pulsar]

use biomass generators until the coal plant is working

[reef basin]

What is?

[gleaming wasp]

moving gases

[tropic juniper]

if the easiest way was introduced sooner, all of the other designed mechanics would never get used

before we had dimensional vaults, i used to always build tubes out to other sites in order to haul material that i needed back and forth.

I haven't used tubes since 1.0

[unkempt blade]

ok but depots aside, why do you hate fun?

[south sinew]

hypercannons are great

[tropic juniper]

tubes aren't fun. The exoskeleton animation is broken and it just makes me think it's a big ol glitch the entire time.

I zipline on power poles for map traversal. more fun since it's not visually broken

and you can exit a zip line anytime

[south sinew]

regular hypertubes are not fun, hypercannons are great

[unkempt blade]

...ok I'll allow that kind of fun too

[unkempt blade]

I like normal HT lines more than cannons but I still booster them so I go way too fast

[tropic juniper]

i dont bother with hyper cannons. by the time i need them on the other side of the map, i got a train going out there anyways

[south sinew]

I'd classify that as a lot closer to a hypercannon than a regular tube

I actually also use the hypercannon into tube strategy because it gets you where you want to go exactly

whereas cannoning yourself into the air may be hilarious but can be a bit.. inaccurate

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I just can't be bothered to land safely sometimes. I just want to tab out while I zoom out to wherever

[south sinew]

if you're tabbing out you need more of the cannon part ;p

[unkempt blade]

I have the boosters as part of my road/train/etc combo BP so it's pretty cannon-y 😆 #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

I just build power towers and use them as ziplines. You can launch yourself off the last tower you have and quick turn click on it with the electrical tool build another and attach to the new (immediately invisible) power line then repeat

never loosing momentum. its really fun

[south sinew]

I wish landing pads sucked less overall

[unkempt blade]

yeah at least for the cannon use case not touching the keyboard for the entire flight can be kind of big ask

[south sinew]

they're totally superseded by the parachute, they cost power, they're way too hard to hit, and they slow you down very painfully after landing as well

[tropic juniper]

parachutes used to be disposable so i never used them ever. only recently did i learn they changed it to one parachute works forever.

[ornate saffron]

you use them for factory cart funneling and cart jump pads

[south sinew]

so far in my experience, carts suck ass and jump pads are bad

[tropic juniper]

consumable parachutes sucked

[south sinew]

hypercannons and jetpack/hoverpack is the go-to

[unkempt blade]

Yeah parachutes are a lot of fun now for early exploration

[south sinew]

non-consumable chute is really good

[tropic juniper]

me , i used a good ol power rock slide and leap onto the zipline. WOooooooo . There's always a guitar rift in my head when i do it

[south sinew]

well worth rushing chute + runners

[tropic juniper]

Gives me a mod idea now. Replace the zip line tool with a guitar axe that you hang from

[ornate saffron]

pic your BC rich

A SG or any horned guitar works too

[tropic juniper]

the mod would def have to provide guitar style options. But they all have to be ficsit looking manufactures

[wise junco]

fackory

[ornate saffron]

a Goopy slug would be good too. leaving a slime trail on the power line'

[tropic juniper]

Is UE5 capable of that without dying?

[ornate saffron]

if anyone can do it it would be the satisfactory modders

[tropic juniper]

i want to believe.gif

[placid stirrup]

My PhD

[wise junco]

TSUNAMI!!!

[placid stirrup]

Banana!!!

Hope you're doing well, friend

[wise junco]

and likewise!!! you been buildin fackory?

[supple canopy]

yea lol I loaded an old savefile the other day and was confused as to why I crafted so many parachutes (the item doesn't even stack anymore so it was a mess)

[placid stirrup]

Oh dang, did they all unstack?! How would that even work if there wasn't enough space?...

[supple canopy]

i would guess it caps to the max of the current storage they're in? I don't think there was another case like this. We had the reverse case for portable miners

[hollow mountain]

Guys my coal mine is far from water is there a way in tier 3 4 to bring material in long distance without making a huge belt?

[ornate saffron]

where did you start?

[hollow mountain]

The grass area. First one

[placid stirrup]

There is, but building factories near the fluid they require reduces complexity and the need for as much troubleshooting. There are plenty of good locations for any type of build though, you may just need to explore more

[ornate saffron]

if you started in the grasslands there is a nice lake to the north with four coal nodes

its there for coal power ^__^

[hollow mountain]

I have to rebuild my power plant 😢

Ok ty

[whole robin]

Just build another one. You can get twice the power. 🎉

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

the devs made this map by hand and put a lot of thought into things. but in the end choice is left to the player ^)^

[hollow mountain]

well no because i need coal for the first one 😢

[hollow mountain]

ty ill go build there

[ornate saffron]

the two Pure nodes in the grasslands are great for Steel and Trucks. I often used the one to the south closet to the purple forest for quartz. Although this time i used it for a a Rotor, motor and stator factory

[hollow mountain]

are truck even usefull?

[plucky bone]

Definitely

I use em lots

Clutch in early game if you got a chainsaw.

[wise junco]

why need a chainsaw?

[plucky bone]

Solid Biofuel

[wise junco]

for trucks??

[ornate saffron]

there strength is not needing infrastructure, You just need a truck, two truck stations and fuel.

[plucky bone]

Yes

[wise junco]

Coal has entered the chat

[plucky bone]

That's how I did it.

[ornate saffron]

ya, ive done my fair share of biofuel trucks pre 1.0

[strange vortex]

Can i get some tips for Phase 3?

[whole robin]

There is a pure coal node by the cliff on the edge of the map. There is also a pond not too far away from it.

[ornate saffron]

i often have 3 of four industrial containers of hard biomass by the time im on coal power.

[placid stirrup]

Build what is needed for the next milestone

[hollow mountain]

thats the first one i did

[plucky bone]

The coal was going to my power plant. Leaves/wood are easy. I mean just push e or lmb.

[ornate saffron]

treat the pioneer like a factory, figure out what the pioneer needs and build the infrustructure for it.

all steel for example, your going to need some for pioneer use. so factor that in. same with plastic, rubber and so on

[hollow mountain]

what do you guys even do with truck?

[ornate saffron]

Quartz crystal is a common thing to move via truck if you start in the grasslands

[plucky bone]

Haul in close by parts.

Instead of a belt highway.

[ornate saffron]

I use factory carts for phase parts though, they dont need fuel

[placid stirrup]

Hit a sweet QP gap over some lizard doggos

[hollow mountain]

ohhh i see

[plucky bone]

O boy. Now I am adding more to my big factory. Holy. Up to T9 all unlocked. Storage line is huge. Expanded it 3 times now.

[ornate saffron]

in the end it is preference. I like belts above all else but i often push myself to use other ways to move parts, as randome belts everywhere can look bleh

[hollow mountain]

I dont care about look atthe moment but i see how it can be a problem later

[plucky bone]

I just expanded my rails to all around the map in a loop and one cut across.

[earnest condor]

👋

[ornate saffron]

I feel that, Bit of advice, build where the product is and try to move the most dense part. Again quartz is a good example. Quartz crystal is more dense then raw quartz but Silica is less dense and takes up more space then raw quartz after refinement. since its 50/50 i tend to move the Raw quartz then process it on location

[ornate saffron]

[earnest condor]

move the most dense part
Which is why you should always transport Crude Oil 😉

Also does anyone else use the Quartz Purification alternates?

[ornate saffron]

I have in the past when it suited the need

[earnest condor]

Such a powerful combo in terms of output potential.

Especially with how many Oscillators I make 😄

@elfin gyro 😮

[shy temple]

I balance that with versatility too. Like ores which can be used in multiple different ways.

I also consider the processing space too. Petroleum I prefer larger refineries for example and then do initial processing because of the components required.

It is much easier to ship the key components post refining and pipe around from a delivery location. But I always import some crude in case I need some extra on site production.

[hollow mountain]

I build in a place with 3 normal iron node because it felt like a good idea

There is copper and lim close

[shy temple]

A good idea too, especially when starting out. I try to find nice areas with lots of reasonable build space and close access to import others.

I cannot wait for 1.2 release so I can more readily set up trucking routes.

[ornate saffron]

you fill your bag of tricks and preferences as you play ^)^

[shy temple]

@plain marten I love the suspension bridge you posted. I have the start of a bridge in green fields that I still havent actually finished. One day... #Soon...

[plain marten]

thx its my second attempt at makign a bridge though this time it was much more succesful

[shy temple]

Looks great!

I was originally planning a suspension bridge for my crossing, but for some reason my style this map has defaulted to trestle bridges. Very inspiring visuals you made

even noticed the little curve you put in the cables part way down to give it that extra suspension look

[plain marten]

i had it straight first but decided to just curve them because i didnt have the rest of the suspension yet

[simple pebble]

Yeah the curve is really good

[shy temple]

I like the usage of appears to be half foundations for the side rails as well to give it that extra feeling too.

Fits the scale

Inspires me to do a classic viaduct build for my bridge crossing maybe.

I have this sort of industrial feel to this base, but your design elements really helps with some parts I had been pondering over.

[plain marten]

nice to see that my builds inspire someone

this is my first save where im seriously trying to make everything look good

i gave up in my first save

[gleaming wasp]

guys why can't i craft solid biofuel in the constructor?

[white dawn]

If the recipe just totally isn't available, then maybe you haven't unlocked it yet?

[gleaming wasp]

im p3

i can do it perfectly fine in the crafting bench

[wise junco]

does the recipe show in the constructor?

[gleaming wasp]

acc wait

i can't craft it in the bench

[exotic frigate]

Do you have every tier 2 milestone unlocked?

[gleaming wasp]

nevermind

[supple canopy]

holy SHIT welcome back man

[earnest condor]

🙏

[gleaming wasp]

ig i just never got around to getting that milestone lol

[exotic frigate]

Lmao its fine man

I get every milestone done before I move on

[gleaming wasp]

i would do it if you didn't have to wait 10m every damn time

[tired axle]

Do I need 2 freight platforms when using 2 cargo cars?

[exotic frigate]

1 platform for each car

[white dawn]

If you want to load/unload both of them, yes. :)

[tired axle]

alright ty!

[supple canopy]

yes but they can be at different stations if you want

[exotic frigate]

That's fair. It usually takes me much longer to finish the final factory for each phase than it does to get every milestone

Each phase I do a big factory that makes all the parts so making that takes a long time

[white dawn]

Though for real: the chainsaw/solid-biofuel milestone is one of the biggest QoL bumps during Phase 1. Do yourself a favor on the next runthrough and prioritize getting that one in, if nothing else. :D

[tired axle]

probably a stupid question but are trains slower the more freight cars I got?

[white dawn]

A single locomotive provides a fixed amout of acceleration, and freight cars (and their cargo!) do have mass that needs acceleration. As you put more cars (and load more material into them), the acceleration might be slower. You can always add more locomotives to compensate

[earnest condor]

Trains have dynamic weight, so the more full your cars are and the more up/down variance in path height will slow them down, yes.

If 1 loco isn't reaching 120 speed, add another. Repeat until speed reached.

[white dawn]

The actual top speed is fixed no matter what, but more locomotives can mean better acceleration

[quick hound]

hi

[tired axle]

got it, thanks guys

[thin holly]

Hello, I'd like some information. Is it normal that the Ficmas event has returned this April when it ended in March? I think it's my Satisfactory server that's malfunctioning, but we'll see.

[violet glen]

Is the servers date horribly wrong?

[thin holly]

No, I play every day, and yesterday it wasn't like that.

[quick hound]

I wonder if some of the people I used to know from here are still here :0

[lucid maple]

does multiple hypertube entrances still increase your speed?

[quick hound]

Yes!

And still causes atomization when you put too much of them together

[ornate saffron]

thats how they work

[quick hound]

Oh.. my.. god.. Beefalo? You’re still here!

[ornate saffron]

I never left, join the community in October and I live here now lol

[quick hound]

I waited 4 months for my ban appeal to go through haha. I forgot what even happened

[ornate saffron]

🤷

[quick hound]

But it’s good to see you! I wonder if everyone I knew is still here..

[exotic frigate]

An imposter

[quick hound]

I was ze original!

[quick hound]

Ooooh! I love your PFP!

[exotic frigate]

Thanks a friend drew it

[hollow basalt]

Hey would someone be willing to hope in a vc with me and help me with a fuel generator problem I'm having. I have a bunch of refineries producing fuel but it seems like 12 is the max amount it can handle and anytime I try to add mor the flowrate goes down and the pipes go from full to nigh empty.

[exotic frigate]

Sure

[hollow basalt]

thx you

[gleaming wasp]

nah but i wanna rush to p5

[untold moat]

as in 12 refineries, generators, or something else?

[gleaming wasp]

i'm yet to get there on any save, and it's really hard to get the motivation to make a big factory knowing i'll have to tear it down in a few hours to make way for a new thing i gotta make

[white dawn]

a #1038092680493801533 thread with good overhead pictures of your piping and stuff would be the best way, btw

[untold moat]

true

[ornate saffron]

@quick hound I think they were wrapping up the Corprate ladder community evnt last you were here.

the next community event got a teaser a few weeks back

#streams-and-videos message

[white dawn]

It's not impossible that you might find someone willing to VC with you, but it's not really a part of the culture on the server, for better or worse. :)

[quick hound]

oh.. my.. god..

HI APOC!

[white dawn]

aloha!

[quick hound]

It’s been ages! How have you been?

[white dawn]

(will continue in offtopic, btw. :)

[exotic frigate]

They had a ton of refineries feeding into only one mk2 pipe so thats probably it

[fiery root]

I just optimized modular frames

[main phoenix]

Question,
So when it comes to scanning harddrives, are they just random recipes that they unlock or is it set per hard drive?

[reef basin]

Random from a pool of available recipes (which are based on unlocked milestones)

[ornate saffron]

there is a pool of recipes based on your tech level, when you finish fulfilling a tier the recipes related to that tier are added to the pool.

when you scan the hard drive you get two options pulled from that pool

[quick hound]

OMG ITS GREENY! HI GREENY! GOOD TO SEE YOU!

[main phoenix]

That makes a lot of sense. Good to know.

[ornate saffron]

if you do not select a recipe it is removed from the pool until you make your choice.

there is more hard-drives in the game then you need

[reef basin]

did you hack my webcam or how can you see me

[quick hound]

uhhhh what?

[reef basin]

"good to see you"

[quick hound]

…

[reef basin]

I guess my jokes are bad

[quick hound]

I return after four months and bro doesn’t even say “hi” back

[quick hound]

They’re not, I’m just autistic and have troubles comprehending humour.

Actually.. it’s been 5 months

Oh, sorry. I forgot you don’t like being replied to with pings on.

[reef basin]

if I can be completely honest, my memory for names is very bad and I interact with so many people here on daily basis, that I don't remember most of them, unless there's some specific event that makes me remember them 🤔

[quick hound]

That’s on me man, apologies.

[quick hound]

Understandable.

[reef basin]

so it's very much possible that we talked in the past, but I don't really remember that (I don't even know what I had for breakfast lol)

anyway, here's your hi back:

[quick hound]

:3

[main phoenix]

Hello everyone! (Just felt like saying hi)

[quick hound]

Hello!

[main phoenix]

Wife and I been playing together, we are on phase 3, bless her heart, but she pretty much made all 2500 framework for phase 3 by hand. She has been utilizing the To-Do list like a champ. Refuses to let me automate things. We are at a standstill tho and need to start making micro factories to help with our slow production.

[ornate saffron]

Automation game.......... Automation game......

[main phoenix]

I just laugh and carry on, She is becoming more understanding why I automate things, cause there is SO MUCH TO DO. lol. Had to explain 3 times how our 24 iron smelter works to produce plate, rods, screws and how they merge together to produce the rest.

[lucid maple]

with 18 coal gens and 7 water extractors if i was to do 1 pipe line with the cross sections feeding into 2 rows of 9 would there be any issue with the far gens not getting enough water?

[untold moat]

mk 1 or 2 pipes?

[lucid maple]

1 so 300 max

[quick hound]

I might be considered a psychopath but I find it kind of sad that after you automate nuclear bomb production you cannot turn the planet into a wasteland

[lucid maple]

45 machines at 300 max is 6.6 but i have 7

[untold moat]

18 coal gens consume 810 water at default clock speeds

[lucid maple]

i dont know extractors pull amount as im not near them but should be 6.6 extractors worth

[untold moat]

you can, its very difficult though

[quick hound]

I forgot how much numbers this game has and now my head hurts again

[ornate saffron]

water extractors pull 120/min

[untold moat]

thank you beef

[quick hound]

Oh right, I forgot that I made an area so irradiated that even with the radiation things you die in 20 seconds..

[ornate saffron]

max use is one filter every 20 seconds i think. lol

[shy temple]

guess they only have one filter with them.

[quick hound]

I had like 20 and had to fix something and the second they were used up I basically exploded

[weak tapir]

about new randomization feature
Is it possible for new game randomize type of nodes?
Like, shuffle existing across the map?

[shy temple]

That is what its intention is. It shuffles the resources everywhere.

The developer says that there is some protection to ensure that you can do at least minimums without being soft locked if I remember in the vid, but very minimal protections cause they want to see what people do.

[smoky forge]

LOL that sounds like a challange

[shy temple]

I am looking forward to it for 1.2 official launch

I want to change how I approach things and go with less independency.

[quick hound]

I genuinely wonder what the rocket fuel tastes like

[shy temple]

my guess is like burning

[weak tapir]

m.. super.. it's really could be fresh to start new.
because after many starts with the same nodes position. It's a bit obvious where I will build this and that, and boring during time

[shy temple]

Very much. It will definitely also require better logistical planning if one cannot just easily combine all resources into a single belt all at once.

[silent root]

is the last experimental version is stable to play or should i wait alittle

[smoky forge]

i guess its worth a few hours to try

havent tried it myselfe

but people have been playing it already

[ornate saffron]

Seems mostly stable. I haven't heard anyone screaming about things being broken