satisfactory

[real shale]

Load balancers are great for nuclear

[tall lantern]

yeah, one of the better use cases IMO

though there it's pretty easy, all my splitting there was 1:5 which is just a 1:6 with feedback

[elder oracle]

bro where’s greeny when I need him the most rn

[shy temple]

Heh heh, I love feedback ones. An elegant solution to what used to be people trying to do complex math.

[tall lantern]

many other capable folks on this server, you probably don't need one specific person

[coarse bay]

how do i get the trucks to pick up coal and unload somewhere else

the path works but it wont load or unload

[remote marsh]

did you load and unload in the recording?

[coarse bay]

no

[remote marsh]

dm

[coarse bay]

it fixed

[remote marsh]

nice

[coarse bay]

truck routs are weird

[fiery pewter]

They are to be fixed in 1.2

[shy temple]

In 1.1, you just need to drive through the station and it will put a 'pause' in there. So long as station is powered and set to load/unload, it should do it.

But means be careful because if you have multiple stations near, you don't want to have your route automatically connect other ones.

It also will put the pickup/drop into existing routes if you build a station too close to pickup. Before you ask, yes. I have had my existing messed up because my trucks decided to grab from that new stop I built.

I dismantling converyors to pick contamination out for hours.

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message
The struggle will soon be over

[shy temple]

Yeah, or crossflow vs inline design.

crossflow is wider though, but less interference.

[leaden cosmos]

O. Regarding foundation spam. Do i spam them at the highest point of an uneven terrain or do i put it where?

[tall lantern]

up to you, how closely do you want to follow the terrain?

options range from hugging it as closely as possible, to just going "lol not my problem" and building way up in the sky

[leaden cosmos]

I dont think my mental can take creating a "space platform" like that

[supple canopy]

that's what I generally try to do locally. I chose a relatively flat area that can take the size of the factory I'm trying to build and start a foundation at the highest point

[leaden cosmos]

So ig id try to do it somewhat close unless id end up with little space

[leaden cosmos]

Oh

[supple canopy]

sometimes building a factory on foundations mimicking the terrain asperities can be fun

[knotty bear]

How can I transport a spider into my base. I need to get one in my underground tunnels for "fun"

[smoky forge]

lure it there ig?

[leaden cosmos]

Fair. I just need a way to push thru the early game

Bc from what i seen when i played for the first time i got stuck on some part of the rocket platform thing and just took a break

[tall lantern]

early game factories are quite smol, especially if you start building vertically

it doesn't all have to be one flat patch (though that does make it easier to build on)

[leaden cosmos]

And the starting area for new players is very uneven all things considered, imo

Ofc theres much more uneven surfaces on the map, and then theres the desert but ye

[tall lantern]

there's always a high enough point to build however much flat space you want

can also use ramps to bridge elevation differences

or ladders and lifts

or just run the belts like an escalator lol

[leaden cosmos]

Fair ig

Atm im camping the very corner of the map. Since my factory is really small

Like the one with 2 normal irons, 1 normal copper and 1 impure lime and iron a bit away

[supple canopy]

does anyone know how the game calculates the way your trains are supposed to go on track to make sure that you CAN'T PUT A BLOCK/PATH SIGNAL THE RIGHT WAY???!

[leaden cosmos]

And the coal and pure gold on those disconnected islands

[leaden cosmos]

Wdym

[civic ore]

How to fix a merger that refuses to merge.

[shy temple]

Start with a screenshot to show what is connected and have in #screenshots, then we can give ideas plus the question of how you assembled it.

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message

[marble torrent]

Perform an exorcism cause that thing is cursed

[shy temple]

signals just snap to a side depending on how you look at the track or with scroll wheel. There is no auto assumption

[deft flume]

me again ... while trying to report what i found on the Q&A site i found even more and am not sure if it is still a grafic issue as i right now have a convyer lift horizontal😅, so the question when do i report something as a bug?

[supple canopy]

no it is sentient and it makes sure your signals' holograms are hardlocked the wrong way there's no arguing about it

[shy temple]

I guess I have free range trains that believe that they can travel how they choose

[leaden cosmos]

Oh dang. Id assume that theyd try to lock to the same side of the firdt signal placed. Tho i never got far enough so i have to guess based off of factorios blocks

[civic ore]

Thank you but amazingly after rebuilding and deleting about 20 times the 21st time succeeded in merger. I guess I should’ve just skipped to the exorcism

[shy temple]

The most common issue I had with failure to snap is with lifts and the lift not exactly aligning to the splitter/merger

[supple canopy]

is there a conveyor pole or stackable conveyor pole clipped inside the merger? Sometimes your belts will snap to something else that is inside the merger

[shy temple]

Ooop, and that too. I hate when I snap to a stand I didnt know was there.

[supple canopy]

only workaround is to place a block signal the wrong way, then you can easily scroll wheel to make a duplicate the right way, then delete the wrong one...

[shy temple]

Oooh.

I just delete the part of track and rebuild it.

[supple canopy]

a good tell tale sign you've correctly snapped to a merger/splitter input or output is by trying to build a belt: if it shows arrow holograms, it's not connected

[shy temple]

I have had that issue where it won't let me because it says a signal already exists...

[supple canopy]

oh really? never got that error

[shy temple]

I was doing a really complex mess of a triple train line system that looked really cool but caused more problems than were needed.

The original idea was solo direction outside lines, with a bi directional mid line. But in the end, it is sort of pointless when they have to go through certain spots one at a time. The original concept was for when two trains came to my station at same time to head to different parts.

Versus, only one in/one out at a time.

[supple canopy]

can we ping moderators at these hours?

[shy temple]

but I think looking back I know what the issue was. I just set up my signals wrong. I was tired of fighting though.

[feral vector]

welp, cooling systems need both water and nitrogen gas, guess I gotta run a long pipe or package stuff

[tall lantern]

is there something that needs a mod ping?

[feral vector]

I just want turbo motors logitstics is killing me lol

[shy temple]

Can use short trains too

[true mulch]

if anyone notices something wrong with the wiki, please let us know by pinging the @ wiki manager role

[tall lantern]

are we expecting wiki woes?

[feral vector]

it's not that far away I think a train would be kinda ridiculous hmm

[true mulch]

botched platform-wide system update

[tall lantern]

nice

[shy temple]

I start to break up factories when logistics get too much. I try to modular the components into different buildings. Short trains are not too bad, unless it is low quantity for volume. Pick up, and then drop and sit til empty. Like mobile storage.

One strategy I recently was introduced to on the steam discussions was I don't try to immediately balance. I just make the component in excess of what is needed. Then on each output I have a counter and slowly start at final product and throttle back.

If my primary stuff is running 20%? So be it. Nothing wrong with that.

[true mulch]

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[true mulch]

you might be interested in this

[shy temple]

Yeah, independency is how I love to build

[tall lantern]

now that is very much a preference thing, if I saw my stuff running at 20% beyond the initial start I would not be happy

[shy temple]

Well, let me describe my phase 3 building in my current base. I love to start new so I actually rarely get that far :x

SO I decided I would make the modular engines and adaptive controls in the same building.

Problem is getting weird fractions and I don't look up what ratios are online etc. So I went through the parts one at a time. But I didn't feel like doing spreadsheets.

[tall lantern]

yeah manual math becomes unwieldy

[shy temple]

So working back from final product, the motors, computers and such were not too bad. But then getting in the wires and such that started being used in multiple places at variable levels I was doing, but it was really slowing me down.

[tall lantern]

I'm a big Tools user, but spend a lot of time tweaking the output into something I'm happy with

[shy temple]

So instead, I got an estimate, put down to that estimate, then went back and did so until I got a refinery.

for the pure ingots I mean.

[true mulch]

10 extra minutes spent optimizing in Tools can save 10 hours of factory building, and that is not an exagerration

[shy temple]

Then once things were moving smoothly, I adjusted by looking at the line counters and fine tuning that way.

Oh, I know it does. Straight up though, part of the fun for me is to not be using that stuff. I enjoy working out the math, trying to lay it all out and such in game with no tools. Including the inevitable mistakes and problem solving.

(wont talk about how I had two different wire manufacturers going into my rotors instead of steel pipe and wire)

Though if I was smart, I would actually use the queue production task list which would tell me my needed quantities!

... why don't I do that...

I really look forward to a new play when 1.2 comes out. I have new ideas I want to try plus the challenge of RNG

[tall lantern]

not tempted/able to give experimental a go?

or just want to finish the current run first

[hidden sluice]

Anybody know why a splitter attached to most conveyor lifts can be turned so that the input in on different sides but on some it just stubornly will not let you turn the inputs?

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots message 37.5k mw power finallyyy done

[hidden sluice]

Nevermind, I am an idiot. It is because it is an output from a machine so the machine is already using the single input slit.

[earnest oak]

could anyone help me figure out why my pc is so loggy when i open satisfactory like itll run good fps but have crazy stiutters like 240 fps down to 80 and so on

[unique trail]

would be nice if you watch my videos

[shy temple]

Finish current run, and certain games I like to avoid experimental due to sometimes changes causing issues to the way something would work or bugs slowing things down.

[knotty kraken]

quick Q: are there power slugs that just cannot be collected?

[vernal vortex]

How does the long conveyor lift work again? (i do know it has something to do with a floor hole or smth)

[knotty kraken]

like there is one in the northern tropical area that i cannot pick up

[knotty kraken]

place floor hole first and then place the conveyor lift on the bottom/top and lock it down, then look at the hole to connect it

obviously has to be aligned

[vernal vortex]

alright thanks

[cold berry]

I can't wait to carve out this logistics area and also unlock blueprints again oh boy

Doing randomized nodes, 50% power, 5x space elevator parts

[true mulch]

there could be a few

but it's in the single digits if any

[knotty kraken]

interestingly the interactive map website doesn't even list this one that makes issues

[shy temple]

Let the slugs be free. Slugs be free!

[knotty kraken]

makes me wonder if it is not the one being picked up by the radar tower

[knotty kraken]

no worries, they have a great time #screenshots message

[shy temple]

Need to put some whoops in there to make it more exciting!

[cold berry]

Did anyone else immediately find a goated spot in randomized nodes in the first area? I found copper, iron, Caterium, quarts, limestone and coal within like 300 meters of each other next to a huge flat area

[shy temple]

I want to find Nuclear in my start when I try :3

Build a doggo pen on top of it.

[royal mortar]

every second floor a have a little gap in the conveyor lifts. it's driving me crazy 😭 #streams-and-videos message

[surreal ingot]

#screenshots message
@supple canopy
If you place one down then it creates a split. Place another on the same spot and delete the original

[honest nimbus]

someone may help me?

[wise junco]

whats yer Question

[honest nimbus]

idk how to change the priority fuel in my jetpack

[true mulch]

click the gear icon

[honest nimbus]

its possible to use coal?

[true mulch]

no

[wise junco]

no

[true mulch]

!wikisearch jetpack

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jetpack

[honest nimbus]

only biomass?

[next ivy]

no

[true mulch]

check the wiki page

[honest nimbus]

ok ty

[wise junco]

awfully suspiciously quiet in here tonight

yall BUILDIN FACTORY?

[real shale]

@wise junco

[wise junco]

Hewwo

[hard wolf]

how's instant scrap?

[white dawn]

Tied with Electrode+Sloppy in terms of Bauxite efficiency, though arguably with more expensive ingredients (spending coal+sulfur instead of oil, and more of it)

Instant's a super enjoyable build, though, IMO -- I really love the little modular sulfuric acid loopbacks you can do

[cold berry]

I'm doing a logistics nightmare mega factory haha

Or mega compound at least

[civic ore]

So I’ve just finished phase 2 of the space elevator and now need to build like 20 new factory’s for all this new stuff :/

ive basically completely cleared the dune area of all resources, where should I head for my new area?

[white dawn]

Northern Forest is pretty resource-rich, and right next door

[shy temple]

More factories! More!

Since I am home now, I think I will take some screenshots and post my current plate of rigatoni

[dusky harness]

does anyone have issues with the 'hold to zipline' setting not functioning as the description says. i have it turned off and i still need to hold the button to even work

[civic ore]

Is that the forest with the massive trees you can’t chop down? South west of the dune, west of the swamp area?

[shy temple]

There are a few biomes. Nice thing about this game is that there are good resource clusters in each part of the map.

Grab that scanner and explore around, have fun. See what you can find and build off of it!

[dusky harness]

nvr mind, i just found out that the setting is useless

[civic ore]

Would you recommend moving your hub? I feel like it’s gonna be a pain having to travel back to the dune to unlock new milestones

[shy temple]

It depends on how you play actually. Moving hub is very easy. I tend to enjoy setting up a central base. I do what is called a 'mall' setup where I consolidate my stuff into a central area.

Or will use the assorted forms of transport to get back quickly. Really it is what you find is most enjoyable for you.

[dusky harness]

but now with the randomized nodes option, what would a mall like that look like?

[shy temple]

Some pack up and move to a new area to focus on the new unlocks. Myself, I keep around the old things.

Oh, I would look the same really.

Actually, I am doing screenshots right now to post my current build since I have been out of the discord for a long time.

Lets say a mall like that looks fantastic.

[civic ore]

I really like the concept of a mall but not of having to run all my material to a entire new area hahaha

I guess I could truck all the stuff in seeing as it doesn’t really matter how fast a “mall” fills up

[shy temple]

It does depend on the build style. Myself, I use and independency system so my more advanced stuff does not make use of my earlier builds, but also my earlier builds really cannot tie in well either.

[jaunty vault]

Boys should i restart or pick up where i left off? Have about 100 hours and dropped my factory after my trains fucked up. Getting that itch to automate again

[dusky harness]

but what i mean is, would the mall look more akin to todays modern irl malls? or would it be more like a strip mall?

[civic ore]

I think it would look like a mall in name only tbh,

[shy temple]

Mall is sort of a technical name. Sort of like manifold etc.

Essentially the idea of a mall is to consolidate finished products you regularly use into a single location

[hard wolf]

I might go with that and hope I don't run into scarcity issues later in the game. I'm currently connecting all of the bauxite belt to the central lake

[dusky harness]

well, im doing a pure randomized node run just to see what my brain can handle with all the logistic nonsense i had to just map out 70% of the nodes on the map just to find a good base spot

[uneven path]

The lake by the big waterfalls in the forest? I've been planning to bring all the world's bauxite there for one big aluminium factory

[civic ore]

Absolutely not thank you. I already struggle enough as is

[jaunty vault]

Anyone else run into this

[shy temple]

I just base where i can build. I like the logistics of bringing resources in

[civic ore]

It’s a trick one tbh I’ve done both and both have pretty major drawbacks

[uneven path]

If you think you can easily hop back in and pick up where you left off then do that. If that feels frustrating/confusing then there's nothing wrong with restarting

[civic ore]

You either start painfully slow wishing you had better stuff or you inevitably run out of resources building the new factory’s and have to set up loads of jank to make proper ones

And I felt that way restating from like tier 4 god help you if your deep

[jaunty vault]

I think i was on tier 3. The tier with turbofuel

[dusky harness]

i did, i was 300 hours into one run and just gave up once trains broke. i do have a backup of right before i switched to experimental, but once i saw radnomized nodes as a setting my chaos brain made a funny noise and now here i am 28 hours into a new run

[sage bluff]

I keep getting to trains but give up because they look ugly :p

[shy temple]

I have restarted far too many times without finishing

[sage bluff]

same

[uneven path]

Unhinged take. The trains look amazing

[shy temple]

I find it cathartic to restart with all the new info I learn

[sage bluff]

not when I build them 🙁

[shy temple]

I love trains too. What looks ugly? The models in general?

[jaunty vault]

Seems like it would be. Made a lot of dumb decisions and now i feel like i have some concept of future proofing unlike when i first began

[sage bluff]

the stations i guess

[civic ore]

Is just restart again then. That’s why I did it my first time I didn’t really know how to play so everything was jank, this time it’s still jank but it’s a lot more sensible jank if that makes sense

[shy temple]

Ahh, the stations there are tricks that can really help with that. They are the one thing that I will do clipping to dress up

[sage bluff]

I just recently got a computer factory up with a shotty looking train setup, going to keep going and make it pretty later, or just go https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and get someone else to do it XD

[shy temple]

My one trick I do to help with trains is I make a simple set of blueprints for railway ties

[tacit barn]

i need help making a factory any 1 wanna help msg me

[jaunty vault]

Which biome did you start in on your second run? I was thinking of going with the desert but I don’t know the downside. For the default start like I did for my first run i was encountering a lot of coal issues

[shy temple]

Then I can snap them down and in lines so that the train lines can keep from clipping ground and stay more linear and smoot

[civic ore]

I first started in the plains and my second run I chose dunes which I’ve really enjoyed can’t lie. It’s got crazy resources

[jaunty vault]

I was thunking the same

Lol. Thinking

[civic ore]

The only real downside is you have to leave the dune to get plant material so early game power is a little bit of a pain

[jaunty vault]

Ahh i see. Thats not too bad

[shy temple]

use the protein of the hostile natives. I hear that is something unlockable. XD

[civic ore]

But once your on coal it’s chiller there’s like 10 nodes on the ocean coast so it’s ridiculously easy

[jaunty vault]

Great 🙂 thank you

[civic ore]

Oh and thankfully there’s none of those shitty poison spewers, actually building is so nice not having to work around obstacles

[hard wolf]

that's my current project. it's taking a while xwx

[dusky harness]

not me just finding out that the markers next to the computer in the hub have words on them

[sage bluff]

anyone currently playing and want someone to join? im bored

[jaunty vault]

What platform do you play on?

[sage bluff]

pc

[jaunty vault]

Ah damn

[sage bluff]

damn bro

[jaunty vault]

Sorry 😞

[dusky harness]

wait is crossplay not a thing?

[sage bluff]

all good, wish more ppl were active

will it every be a thing? do we know, surely the devs woulda said somethin

[jaunty vault]

Hope so it’s starting to become the norm. Even terraria is getting it soon so i would be surprised if not eventually

[dusky harness]

it does make sense why its not if you count for mods

[jaunty vault]

True

[bold isle]

"even" terraria lmao

[jaunty vault]

Hahaha well that’s another heavily modded game too

Honestly never expected it

[proper schooner]

hi

[jaunty vault]

Hi

[sage bluff]

hi

[uneven path]

Nope, short answer is that folks are able to build things on pc that would make consoles explode. So you either have to severely limit what the pc players can do in crossplay, or let people's consoles explode. Bad experience all round. (There's more to it than this but that's the basics of it)

[sage bluff]

broke the chain 🙁

[jaunty vault]

Thanks for the explanation

Makes sense

[civic ore]

Hey you can build those things on console too, they just fuck your game up.

[sage bluff]

dang

[jaunty vault]

But isn’t that what they said

[uneven path]

This is the explanation given on stream before.

[civic ore]

I guess but my point is that you can already do it on console, so using it as a excuse doesn’t seem the best for me

[jaunty vault]

Fair

Better to be separate than have a ready or not situation in my opinion

[civic ore]

I can guarantee you somewhere there’s a Xbox player running on 12 fps right now cos of it lmao

[civic ore]

Yeah to me it’s a single player game anyway so I’m not too fussed

[uneven path]

I promise you that you could not do the sorts of things that Kibitz or BLAndrew do in their saves on console. It would not load.

[jaunty vault]

Im with you there. Not sure how many people are actually running duo factories long term

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[uneven path]

I'm not saying you can't build big and crazy stuff on console, but it's not to the same extent and frankly I trust the devs judgement on this. They know the limitations of the platforms and have built with those in mind.

[jaunty vault]

I can say from personal experience some cracks started to show on my ps5 especially when i had a bunch of spaghetti fluids

[sage bluff]

pc or con

[tacit barn]

pc

[proper schooner]

Is there any tool or mod in Satisfactory for measuring height?

[dense violet]

you can measure with walls and foundations very easily

[civic ore]

Yeah I just zoop walls to check sorry if you wanted something more proper

[wet bluff]

you can use the deconstrocter and hold ctr for mass deconstruct to count how many thing allowing you to count walls

[jaunty vault]

This is the way

[proper schooner]

“I ended up building from the mountaintop because those tall rocks were such a pain.

[civic ore]

Where are you building?

[jaunty vault]

You can always blow then up

[proper schooner]

I couldn’t send a screenshot, but I climbed the tallest mountain I could see and placed my foundations on top of it.

[civic ore]

I cannot imagine how much of a pain lifting your materials into it is 😭

[wet bluff]

you can send screnshots in media

[proper schooner]

Thank you

[small crypt]

if im exploring and i get something, and my depot is full of that item, is it stupid to just void it

if im actively producing it

[proper schooner]

Should I ask the devs for a proper Z-axis height measuring tool? lol

[wet bluff]

what are you getting? if you producing something sad isn't like facotrio its unlimited resorces so if you don't have inv space then feel free to void no harm

[small crypt]

just crap from crash sites, computers, fused frames etc

[wet bluff]

i mean there isn't a x or y one either and the cases where you need it and the deconstroctor can't work is few and far between. and if you despertly need it there are always mods

[civic ore]

Are stators used for anything other than motors?

I’ve not built a factory for them yet but I see I need them for motors, so I was wondering if I should just skip a dedicated stator factory and build it into the motor one instead

[wet bluff]

i think so i think super computers and a few other things need them but just build what you need

[proper schooner]

Can you recommend any mods?

[wet bluff]

no need for a stator factory you will build them to make other things

[civic ore]

Brilliant thank you, I wasn’t sure if it was going to be like reinforced plates or steel beams where there needed for belts and what not

[wet bluff]

idk the exact ones b/c i haven't played modded in years

[civic ore]

And I’m console :/

[dense violet]

yes, wait until you've gone through all of the milestones first. Best mod 😛

[proper schooner]

😭

ok~

[shy temple]

Time to start posting #screenshots I should check the rules not to spam

[meager fern]

wait, so you are saying that i shouldnt play Satisfactory Plus if i havent gotten past oil processing?

[dense violet]

the milestones are basically a very well put together tutorial, you really don't need extra crap to learn at the same time, nor will you know what you want changed until you have a very good idea what the game does 😛

[wet bluff]

yall is soild steel any good

like the alt resipe

[jaunty vault]

I think you shouldnt but its not the end of the world

[civic ore]

Is that the one that needs iron ingots and coal? Is so yes it’s a insane production booster with the only downsides being you gotta smelt the iron first

[jaunty vault]

Can you remind me what that one is

[meager fern]

i think it might me 😭 even tier 1+2 is more difficult than anything ive done in satisfactory

[meager fern]

ingots+coal = steel

[wet bluff]

yep thx just double checked it its insane

[dense violet]

all alt recipes are good for what they do

[jaunty vault]

Sounds like its a more expensive recipe with an ultimately higher production so theres no reason not to use it

[wet bluff]

nah even better its cheaper then the base

[jaunty vault]

I stand corrected. The alr recipes are awesome and you should plan to use as many as you can because they can really cut some corners

[civic ore]

I got it just before I built my steel beam factory and it saved me like 4 nodes of each it’s that strong

[dense violet]

sf+ is basically a different game from what I can tell

[civic ore]

Although I am using like 8 nodes for it already haha

[meager fern]

yeah its pain

[dense violet]

a huge portion of the game is about alt recipes and going down different chains

[jaunty vault]

Basically satisfactory but plus

[dense violet]

you're missing out on the core aspects of the game with sf+

[civic ore]

Finding iron pipes almost made me cry I didn’t even know it was a thing

[meager fern]

its satisfactory, but more screws

[dense violet]

minus - missing out on the core mechanic of production design

[jaunty vault]

Yesss this is the one i was thinking of. Great recipe right there

[small crypt]

yeah you can make motors 100% out of iron

[jaunty vault]

Theres also an industrial beam recipe that uses the pipes thats really good. I might have that backwards but that one really cuts down too

[small crypt]

that one is so bad tho

[meager fern]

i thought about doing that, but it seems like more trouble than its worth

[civic ore]

I could’ve if I opted for iron wire but I honestly don’t see the point you barely use copper anyway (at least at my tier)

[small crypt]

wdym its literally just iron

[jaunty vault]

I liked it because it meant i could just make a bunch of pipes for my heavy frames but maybe it isnt the most efficient one out there lol

[dense violet]

it chews through your iron supply - much easier to just find one of the million groups of iron+coal on the map

[meager fern]

just being made out of 1 material doesnt mean its easy

[jaunty vault]

Steel screws is always good. Along with anything that takes away screws from the recipe

[small crypt]

my infinite iron supply?

[civic ore]

If does if the only coal is 1km+ away tbf. I did it in dune sea to save the hassle

Especially cos I’m using all the coal right now for power

[jaunty vault]

I really like the iron and water recipe too

[civic ore]

I can see it being not worth it once your off coal power

[meager fern]

it gave me gross ratios, and was just a headache to try to plan out

[wise junco]

@dense violet loves pure iron ingot

[small crypt]

i mean neither is hard, but hooking up a miner on a pure node and making motors is a lot "easier" than finding coal copper and iron near each other

[uneven path]

Pure ingots my beloathed

[dense violet]

if you're in DD you did not look around if it's 1km away

[civic ore]

No your right it’s because all the coal closer then that was being used for power

[jaunty vault]

Honestly when i first saw it in the mam i knew that people would either love or hate it

😂

[dense violet]

that's why you use distant coal for power. Very easy to import

[civic ore]

My slime I’m a baby pioneer 😭 I didn’t know this at start

[wise junco]

I hate the pure ingot recipes because of the ratios and refinery spam... but they do help stretch resources

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

what about this do you have difficulty with

[dense violet]

go make a big power station off in the distance 😛 you'll need 4+ coal nodes for it anyway, reuse your local coal for steel

[jaunty vault]

The refineries definitely have weird ratios. I fucking hate decimals

[uneven path]

I both love and hate it. All the pure ingot recipes are amazing in terms of ratios, but holy shit I am so sick of refineries 🤣

[dense violet]

decimals are a figment of your imagination

[small crypt]

im just glad the clocking interface in machines does math operations

[wise junco]

You're a figment of our imagination

[dense violet]

possibly. You don't know I'm not a chat bot

[jaunty vault]

Underclocking is a real blessing

[meager fern]

gross, underclocking

[dense violet]

I'm not joking - absolutely imaginary. Change the unit of time you're measuring them and decimals go away

[wise junco]

I have considered the idea

[civic ore]

For real, I spent like an hour yesterday trying to figure out how to evenly get my input in until someone went “just clock it” and I felt like a idiot

[meager fern]

"111.11 iron ore" is such a cursed number 🤢

[dense violet]

decimals are just regular numbers, slap your brain out of being afraid of them

[small crypt]

so? its 120

[jaunty vault]

When did you get bought out by big decimal mr cobalt?

[wise junco]

Once you add clocking to a regular part of your builds, your life changes

[small crypt]

type number in machine and never think about it again

[dense violet]

I teach maths, I'm just aware what decimals are

they are just a number

you have 12.55 pm ? it's 1255 per 100min

poof. No more decimals

[uneven path]

insert STOP DOING MATHS meme here

(I kid, maths is rad)

[jaunty vault]

Very righteous for a math teacher to be into satisfactory lol do you put your students onto the game?

[dense violet]

nah, the curriculum is way too full for that

[wise junco]

Mathematics was my favorite subject and I'm an excel nerd. Destined for satisfactory since birth

[dense violet]

besides this is all mostly grade school maths

[small crypt]

students are ground up for biomass generators

[meager fern]

all of that production line for iron only motors is an afront to all that is good in the world, and i will have nothing to do with it

[jaunty vault]

What level of math do you teach? If u dont mind me asking

[small crypt]

all the 6 machines?

[uneven path]

Children who fail to do their homework will be mulched

[meager fern]

"2.489 contructors" 🤮

[dense violet]

mostly mid highschool, I can't be bothered reviewing the ancient texts to do year 12s

[small crypt]

2.489/4 in clocking interface

[dense violet]

and I only teach maths grudingly

[wise junco]

One constructor at 248.9%

😎

[small crypt]

satisfactory players would shit themselves with any real amount of complexity

[dense violet]

prefer teaching science

[jaunty vault]

Im a tower climber so sometimes i climb up my power towers for some practice lolll

Translates exactly. We use jetpacks and everything

[civic ore]

How’d you get into that? It’s one of those jobs I’d love to do but never see

[small crypt]

there was an asbestos abatement worker to tower climber pipeline in my high school group

[meager fern]

its just such a waste, when you could just make normal motors 😔

[dense violet]

Rigor motors 😄

[small crypt]

what are we wasting

everything is infintie and nothing matters

[wise junco]

Everything is permitted

[civic ore]

We are wasting the one thing that isn’t permanent our time

[jaunty vault]

My brother does it so he got me in. He got in from one of his girlfriends buddies. One of those things where you dont need any experience to start just a connection. I got real lucky to be honest. I know dudes that just showed up and asked and got the job

[small crypt]

if i wanna put 1 miner down and make motors instead of 3 miners im gonna

[civic ore]

Fuck me man it’s like every job that isn’t shit is like this

[small crypt]

unrelated: i decided to try liquid biofuel in my jetpack and its friggin amazing never using regular fuel again

[small crypt]

every job in the world is who you know

[civic ore]

Real talk tho I might just try my luck showing up and asking

[jaunty vault]

I know exactly what you mean I have no idea what i wouldve done if not for this lol

[jaunty vault]

With stuff like this you have a very very good chance of getting a shot by doing that. I would consider it

[small crypt]

the obligatory "walk in and shake the manager's hand"

[civic ore]

Every job that isn’t shit. I’ve had plenty of shit jobs and the only one that was half decent I got cos I was outrageously overqualified. Everyone else that joined with me either was a son of someone who worked there or was also outrageously overqualified

[jaunty vault]

You just have to be willing to travel (not on your dime) and you have to be willing to not have a set time that you get off of work

[civic ore]

Well it’s been nice chatting to you guys I’m gonna go find out the closest company’s. I’m in windmill county, always thought I’d eventually see a job looking for new hires but it literally has never happened lmao

[small crypt]

im a computer programmer so i dont really have any valuable skills, so i joined a bunch of degen day trading discords like a year before covid and just was really friendly to everyone and said enough buzzwords to make people think i knew anything. waited for one person to get a job at a hedge fund, slid into his DMs, boom hired, sponsored my certifications, still don't know anything, but employed.

[civic ore]

GME?

[jaunty vault]

You have a really good shot. You dont need any trade school or certifications they teach you everything. Anyone trying to get you to pay to get into it is scamming you. Just show up

[small crypt]

yeah ill never make that much in 1 day again for the rest of my life

[civic ore]

Ahh, a smart man, I’m still holding cos I’m genuinely retarded. Could’ve sold for like 20x at some point

[jaunty vault]

Itll bounce back bro trust…

[small crypt]

yeah i got 10k shares DRS, i'll probably die with them at $20

[civic ore]

Oh you rich rich goddamn

[jaunty vault]

This is awesome bro keep killing it

[small crypt]

i wish

[civic ore]

Hey as long as you a diamond hand waiting for the mythical squeeze that will almost certainly never come your good with me 😭🤣

[small crypt]

no cell no sell

[shy temple]

These screenshots are what I mean by a mall there. Really handy earlier on so you can grab everything from one spot.

#screenshots message

[civic ore]

Damn bro really said if you can’t beat them join them 🤣

[small crypt]

damn that's pretty

[shy temple]

And simple to make too. I don't spend a whole lot of time on them

[civic ore]

Good chatting guys I’m getting off. Nice ass community here

[shy temple]

No mods or anything.

[jaunty vault]

Dude, that factory is the shit

[shy temple]

If I get tired, I go putter on another building to decorate a bit, then come back to it. I use blueprints for stuff like those light columns and resources for the streets.

This weekend I am going to be building my railroad, a second refinery, and then my aluminium plant.

[jaunty vault]

The train station especially looks nice

[shy temple]

I just sort of build. Have fun. Do one component at a time. Build how I want to build

I forgot to show the underside. I actually have resources also underground. I like to work with the terrain, but lifted the buildings a bit for more consistent floor. Letting me have a sort of subfloor to squeeze utilities

[polar walrus]

can xbox play with playstation yet or nah

[shy temple]

Posted a screenshot of the subfloor tunnels

[sinful roost]

Reject these circle building heretics

[shy temple]

Fitting square buildings into rounded area. Heretics

inefficient. Waste of resources

[stone perch]

can we use mods is 1.2 experimental like zoop so i can build 50x50 faundaitsion

[ornate saffron]

No mods

[stone perch]

thats little sad

but is it 100% if 1.2 fully come out i can continue were i was in 1.2 experimental ?

[ornate saffron]

You can continue

[stone perch]

well thats good atleast

[ornate saffron]

The people developing the mods don't want to update the mods to work with experimental for them to break every week with the bug patches. So they wait until stable

[small crypt]

i looked at mods but most of them were just straight up cheats

[stone perch]

There are actally nice ones like zoop u can use 50x50 in vanilia there is 10x10 or like furniture mods and so on

[stone perch]

Overally cheats are yeah pointless

[ornate saffron]

I use SKYUI to control the day night cycle. Night time stains my eyes to much

[stone perch]

Haha i dont like this mod 😅 i like what nature is doing 🙂

[dense violet]

there's a bunch of fairly vanilla friendly mods out there that I like, but I do recommend finishing the tiers first

[sudden tide]

i wonder why some trees are indestructible? it would be really cool if several nukes could kill even the big ones..

[shy temple]

The ones that bother me are the sprouting balloon trees

[willow hill]

but those ones give mycelia

[shy temple]

The little ones cannot be chopped down. At least I havent been able to

or blown up

[sudden tide]

yeah it sucks that u cant nuke em

interferes with building a lot in some scenarios

[willow hill]

how do you deal with those stupid fly things

i use seeking ammo but that gets expensive

[shy temple]

best way early on is to walk backwards and time your swings

Shatter rebar works well too

[willow hill]

wait, if you dont look at them they dont come out

[sudden tide]

nuke..

[willow hill]

i tried that once

they didnt die]

[shy temple]

Also, for seeking ammo? I like infinite ammo sort of ||I route my ammo to a quantum container||

[willow hill]

why did you mark that as a spoiler

[small crypt]

is diluted fuel control system development or bauxite refining? the wikis have 2 different answers

[shy temple]

Cause newbies might not know that item

[sudden tide]

i lowkey gave up on shooting, im just flying with ionised fuel and spamming nukes

[willow hill]

i do seeking ammo because my aim sucks and i cant hit them with the normal stuff

[sudden tide]

luxury of late game but eh

[willow hill]

my first factory was a nightmare

[shy temple]

It is a good ammo if you have the stockpile. Especially the spiders

[young hound]

i love having 6 rifles and rapidly changing my weapon to fire insanely fast and accurate

[willow hill]

you dont need 6

all you need is like, 2 or maybe 3

[shy temple]

dont 'need'

[young hound]

6 = more rounds in my mag

👍

[shy temple]

I am oldschool. Part of the classic three bars club.

One gun for me. I reload in combat!

[willow hill]

exactly, you dont need 6

[shy temple]

Well, I have the rebar gun still too. That is useful

[willow hill]

just wait like, half a second

save your hand slots for something else

[sudden tide]

what tier are u

[shy temple]

I just got into tier 4 on this phase. So phase 7 am starting on.

[young hound]

tbh reloading 6 rifles are no joke it takes forever

[shy temple]

Ha ha. But true on the saving hand slots

I guess as you unlock more, it helps, but currently I only have the six

Rebar, rifle, stick, chainsaw, nobelisk, object scanner

With zipline, boombox, and coffee in inventory

as well as healie if in dangerous areas

I still love rebar gun though. Shatter is still strong late game if good with it

Huh.... wait a sec. I just noticed something

There is a cave with some spiders and rock formations.

The rock formations are giant fossilized spiders

[young hound]

ooo my gah my pioneer might want to wash his feet right now

[shy temple]

I put in screenshots

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[small crypt]

hell no

[shy temple]

Am glad I never got to the swamp that day.

I use all the ammo... which I would have ran out because I didnt have my rifle yet or ammo depot

[young hound]

and i am so glad i didnt get 1.2 yet

[shy temple]

April fools that was it looks like

arachnophobia mode woulda been hilarious!

[young hound]

i thought it only made lizard doggos bigger

[ornate saffron]

This was bug that happened during early access

[serene jolt]

so starting up my first super computer factory. how many super computers/min should i aim for?

[shy temple]

There was that. It also made the mr beans smaller, then people had big heads and last thing was they changed the small hogs

[ornate saffron]

1min for personal use. Plus any you need for phase parts

[dense violet]

just going up the tiers? 5pm would be more than enough to get you through

[shy temple]

Full conveyor if you want to flex and tickets XD

[hard wolf]

pure aluminum ingots has a worse scrap to ingot ratio but doesn't require a ton of silica (and limestone) xwx

[ornate saffron]

I just use the siloica from the previous step

[hard wolf]

sloppy alumina and instant scrap don't have that :/

[ornate saffron]

but the base recipe does ^_^

all the base recipes for alum support eachother.

[bleak mica]

wait when is silica used in prev step

al solution is water + bauxite

al scrap is solution + coal

[ornate saffron]

the base alum solution recipe out puts Silica

[bleak mica]

oh right

i sinked it, forgot

[ornate saffron]

its the exact amount you need for the alum ingots base recipe

Alts are just tools. best used when you understand what they do

if you use all base recipes alum can balance itself

[bleak mica]

nice

[hard wolf]

the alts make more scrap per bauxite

[ornate saffron]

Which can matter. Personally ive never needed more then 4 bauxite nodes per run.

[coarse bay]

How much of both aluminum casings and aluminum sheets should I aim for after getting Aluminum production?

[ornate saffron]

make some for personal use then leave the rest as ingots until you need them. that way you can get exact numbers

[hard quail]

Me and my friend were playing on a save and it worked perfectly fine and today it just stopped letting me join him on that save in experimental 1.2

[young hound]

does instant plutonium cell recipe use more uranium than encased plutonium cell recipe?

[reef basin]

Neither of those uses uranium ore

It would depend on other recipes in chain

[young hound]

i mean which one uses less non-fissile uranium

[hard quail]

I havent been able to play all day because of this issue

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 or open a ticket

[hard quail]

I did hours ago

[ornate saffron]

All you can do is wait. If someone can help they will.

[ornate saffron]

Do you mean uranium waste?

[young hound]

whatever nevermind

[lucid maple]

If I want to make a fluid pipe go vertical what's the gap between the pumps need to be? (MK1 pumps)

[ornate saffron]

We are trying to help. We need details though as well as your end goal.

[ornate saffron]

After placing the first pump there should be a hologram telling you the headleft it provides while holding a second to place

[young hound]

soo i mean there are 2 recipes for encased plutonium cell: instant one and normal one
so which one uses less non-fissile uranium per cell? turning it to plutonium pellet and making the cell or instantly turning it to cell?

[lucid maple]

Have they fixed pipes/pressure now then? I remember a few years back that pipes and water/fluid was a pain in the ass

[ornate saffron]

Still a bit of a pain. I tend to over use pumps.

[young hound]

yeah when you try to place pump on a pipe it will show where it should be placed and when you aim there it will just stick to it

[lucid maple]

Overusing is fine for me it just never used to work properly even with almost every inch covered in pumps lol. Is there a height limit those pumps can push too?

[lucid maple]

Yeah thanks but that's not what I asked about at all. I know that information I'm asking about water/pipes still being buggy asf. (There's a whole plumbing document created because of how bad pipe networks was)

[regal tiger]

@finite hornet Thank you so much for that tip on making nice tops to slopes. It looks stunning!

[young hound]

hmm i think i had that issue recently too

[ornate saffron]

I think pellets use more uranium waste then the instant cell. I just did some head math.

That being said im laying in bed with the flu

[lucid maple]

Damn was hoping they would be fixed properly now lol

[dense violet]

pipes aren't bugged, people just don't learn the basics

[ornate saffron]

There is a height limit. The pump tells you what it is in the description

[dense violet]

slapping every inch with pumps doesn't fix anything, just shows you don't know how to use them

[ornate saffron]

@lucid maple I think mk1 is 20m and mk2 is 50

[lucid maple]

AHH you're one of those that comments but doesn't provide help. I block people like you so would be a waste for you to respond to any future messages

[dense violet]

it's unclear what your problem is . Post overhead images of what the actual issue is

either it's a simple problem or probably should make a post in #1038092680493801533 with lots of images

[lucid maple]

Wasn't an issue Im planning a future build (not in game so just iny head) was asking if MK1 pumps had a max ceiling height they could push too if pumps wasn't a limiting factor

I don't mean individually

[dense violet]

just keep chaining them.
mk1 20m
mk2 50m
they reset headlift as well so just putting thme one after the other doesn't work

I would aim for just slightly under those limits, never a good idea of trying to push systems to the brink

also helps prevents small user errors

[lucid maple]

I'm with a duo and they love to make a gigantic sky foundation so we have a super flat build able area but it's like 100+ ramps up in the sky

They want the coal gens up in the sky rather than doing power near the ground and just using power lines to go up

Pain in the ass but they ain't played the game at all where I've played back in 2023 lol

[dense violet]

that's a very annoying way to use fulids but sure

especially since you can have infinite flat space anywhere just by building multiple floors

tons of coal gens at surface level , for example https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1490900154553995385/image.png?ex=69db0278&is=69d9b0f8&hm=e1705f108c538a7c1d72cf362fa5f04997f776da6da8c903fb937aa688f0a372&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[lucid maple]

Yep I'm aware......it's my duo they haven't played the game before and I have so they want to experience issues themselves rather than me warning them ahead of time

Hence why I asked if there a height restriction even if I was to place pumps where the pressure starts to drop off

[dense violet]

I'd just let them play their own map and let them learn the painful lessons
plus this is 3d game. Oi.

but no , you can just keep chaining pumps all the way to hte 2.7km height

[lucid maple]

Feck was kinda hoping they would have a limit to prevent them doing it lol. It's not bad enough for me to play separately as I can still make them do all the work while I go setup a hyper tube network to get up and down

[dense violet]

I wish you luck and them pain

[lucid maple]

They really need to allow us to gain sliding momentum when going down ramps lol

[brave thunder]

Did the belt placement mechanics change? I can’t seem to put belts in the same positions as before

[dense violet]

you might be using mode that isn't happy with the shape

[lucid maple]

Are there still alt recipes that are straight up worse than base recipe like years ago?

[brave thunder]

I see. Let me check.

[whole ember]

is there a easy way to line up height of a item elevator with another elevator I feel like there must be a better way than eye balling

[serene jolt]

I don’t want to do stage 4. But I do

[serene jolt]

Hold Ctrl key I think

[dense violet]

set up the foundations and the things it's going ot connect up at the top youll hear a click sound when a connection is made

[serene jolt]

Any tips for automating stage 4 parts? Where are some ideal spots?

[dense violet]

depends on what recipes you're using , how much and if yo'ure doing them from scratch

[dense violet]

use this to help plan what resources you need then look at the map for good locations https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[whole ember]

I saw a streamer ping a building and it showed height, is that a thing ?

[dense violet]

no in vanilla

but again, it's going somewhere right? build that somewhere first and just listen for hte click

[cedar iris]

wa

[neat plank]

Why when using a Conveyer Lift hole does my Conveyer always moan about clipping on the top side connecting a belt?

[bleak mica]

finally i've found a recipe which lets me consume water

[dense violet]

Many do, why do you need to consume water

[sterile blade]

I don't recall ever seeing one like that
You might like one less than the other, but they're usually just "different"

[sterile blade]

Iirc, the standard command is ctrl + click
The indicator appearing shows distance from player, not height

[hard quail]

I have something now

[whole ember]

thats what i saw then would be cool to ping height

[dense violet]

They all have exchanges, just have to know what you value

[fiery root]

Good mornin fellas
Today is a great day to harvest some coal

[sterile blade]

If you place yourself below whatever your pinging, you're effectively measuring height

Height is just distance from the ground; the ping is distance from the player; if the player is on the ground, the two pretty much coincide

[crisp mountain]

Which steel alt recipes are a go to?

[hard quail]

It says SessionInfoModel is Invalid and says Avatar request failed URL

[sterile blade]

#1038092680493801533

[crisp mountain]

thanks

[sterile blade]

That message wasn't meant for you 😅
(Though, ofc, one can use that channel to ask about recipes 🤷‍♂️)

[crisp mountain]

Oh

Mb

If you do know the answer to it, would love the help, otherwise ill go there

[sterile blade]

Recipe choice is personal 🤷‍♂️
Any recipe can be good, so long as it fits your preferences and personal situation (eg: if you lack Coal you might prefer the one using the least coal or no Coal at all; if you're swimming in resources, you might prefer the one withy the highest output/min...)

[warped hound]

had tiny bit of lag so i took my anger out on about 1000 trees

[crisp mountain]

I see..

[warped hound]

atleast i got enough biomass for a few lifetimes

[sudden tide]

what tier are u

[sterile blade]

If you explain your preference/situation (whatever is important to you in making the choice), people can give you details about which recipe may be best to achieve that and why

[warped hound]

well started new save and i havnt gotten to far into the save or mostly any save

[sudden tide]

u do NOT wanna know how fast biomass is gonna become useless

[uncut quail]

i mean, if you are tier 2 ,and need 600mw max, ye it would last few lifetime
if you need 3000MW , nah , it wont

[warped hound]

next save name im gonna name is chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg

already named a few like supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or pnuemonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis or floccinaucinihilipilification

[sudden tide]

why tf u need 3GW at tier 2 lol

[uncut quail]

i enver said 3gw at tier 2
i said if rn they are tier 2 , its ok to use biomass/solid biomass
but later, its not

( on an other hand , some people build big even at tier 2 xD )

[sudden tide]

yeah biomass is useful for like first 2 days of gameplay

[warped hound]

the farthest i got is like halfway done with phase 2 of the space elevator

[uncut quail]

still doesnt answer whats your current progression

[shy temple]

Even then, I think I ran eight biomass before I got coal, that is only 240

[sudden tide]

why dont u finish the game then

[crisp mountain]

Well, since I got a some molded recipes laying, I was planning to get 1 pure coal and combine it with 2 normal limestones and whatevers the closest iron

[warped hound]

cuz i found a duplication glitch and got like 100k items

[uncut quail]

last save i did , i had massbuild even early then i needed 540mw before running elect through coal

and a friend is around 1,5gw before starting coal... cuz he is a maso

[sudden tide]

wouldnt that be like 50 burners lol?

[warped hound]

i did atleast make that somersloop thing

forgot the name of it

[uncut quail]

yes 🙂

[sudden tide]

im lowk bored after finishing the game

built 250GW plant, and a bunch of redacted stuff in sky

[uncut quail]

only thing i did after the phase 5 was the golden statue

i prefer to restart a save than continuing after phase 5 tbh

[warped hound]

make 1000 ficsonium fuel rods per minute 🙂

[sudden tide]

oh hell naw not that shit

[sterile blade]

Molded recipes are pretty much "add Limestone, save steel"

[uncut quail]

you want them to be even more bored ?

[sudden tide]

ficsonium is more complex than it needs to be

[warped hound]

shouldnt take that long lol just few months possibly

[crisp mountain]

Well, by saving steel I can redirect some of it to produce even more, no?

[uncut quail]

not really

[sudden tide]

tf u mean months?

[warped hound]

things

[sudden tide]

u mean few hours?

[warped hound]

no

make 10000 per minute then?

[uncut quail]

wont be much harder with sloop and snail charge

[sudden tide]

theres not enough resources on map for ts

[uncut quail]

and wont make them less bored at the end

[warped hound]

sure there is lol

[sudden tide]

10k fics.. per min

dude u high or sum shi

[warped hound]

idk

[uncut quail]

for 10k/min, not sure tbh

even by running mk3 at 250% on each mining point

there arent that much pure node to begin with

[warped hound]

uranium prolly be most anoyying

[uncut quail]

no

[sudden tide]

u could turn other resources via sam to uranium too

but who wants to build few hundred reactors

[uncut quail]

convertissor are fine to convert late game into whatever you need from others ressource

its just ... there is no real fun by doing 10k fisconium fuel rods/min , except for few people

[sudden tide]

theres 0 meaning behind it

[uncut quail]

i mean, you had written some redacted stuff in the sky x)

[warped hound]

i was once very stupid and found uranium for the first time and thought it would be a good idea to mine it even tho i dont have that radiation suit thing and died in a few seconds

[uncut quail]

but ye , agree

[uncut quail]

not like it matters in sati to die

[sudden tide]

at some point i used nukes to see how fast i can launch my corpse into sky

[warped hound]

🙂

how far did u go

[sudden tide]

apparently u cant hit lightspeed, cuz at like 10 or 20 nukes power stops adding

[sudden tide]

quite far

[uncut quail]

ye then didnt had any meaning behind it either :p
and to be the fastest into the sky... tubes

[sterile blade]

They reached Earth

[uncut quail]

there is a "wall" you cant go through

[sudden tide]

i still use nukes to make myself faster if ii dont have shit for mk6 belts xDD

but thats a risky gamble

[sterile blade]

If a wall stops you, you ain't going fast enough

[uncut quail]

i do tubess ( and its way before nukes ) if i really want to be fast but otherwise, i just have belt everywhere + running gear , so even on mk3 , its fine

[sudden tide]

why run? just set portals

[uncut quail]

cuz portal are later

[sudden tide]

oh yeah

[uncut quail]

if you have portal around mk2/mk3 conveyor

there is a problem x)

and cuz portals are no fun btw 🙁

[royal mortar]

help. this is annoying. every second floor there is a small gap in the conveyor lifts. does this have something do to with the open space for one floor is 15 meters, instead of 14 or 16? #streams-and-videos message

[sterile blade]

I think that's a known bug atm...

A look in the QA site could confirm/disprove it

[royal mortar]

you're right. found one, state of the art, reported 4 years ago. meaning this is never going to be fixed, what a shame 🙁 https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/625c1b44ca608e080350c5be

[normal orbit]

yea, its typically an issue when using odd numbers between floors. goes for more than the lifts, i always build in increments of 2m just to avoid these issues.

[royal mortar]

that way the stairs won't fit, and 2m thick floors are too fat, plus, don't mix well when using glass floors

[mild finch]

do yall know any way to disable the red experimental banner?

[royal mortar]

a workaround could be to span a lift element over 2 floors ... 🤔

[mild finch]

(besides going back to playing on the stable ver ofc)

[oblique aspen]

No, the banner cannot be turned off

[hushed inlet]

There’s nothing BIG spiders in my uranium how do I beat them

[strange vortex]

I think Satisfactory shoudl add "seeds"

[hushed inlet]

I agree

Seriously how do I beat the giant spiders guarding uranium

https://tenor.com/view/anyone-here-tumbleweed-john-travolta-pulp-fiction-where-are-you-gif-22041899

U know what? Ima do it myself

[neat plank]

Anyone else spend ages building a house for their doggos xD.

[royal mortar]

use a gun and shoot them until they stop moving?

[vernal vortex]

are 4 modular engines per min good enough to get me through phase 3 quickly?

[distant idol]

You need 500 Modular engines to complete phase 3, while producing 4 per min. It would take 125 mins to get enough Modular Engines to complete phase 3. Seems fine to me🤷‍♂️

[finite hornet]

You're welcome :D ♥

[strange vortex]

I just did mini factory for first and secound item to complete phase 2 but its so slow, sun will explode faster

[whole crown]

why cant we sleep

[fluid sapphire]

No sleep, only work

[fluid sapphire]

how many smart plates per minute?

[whole crown]

no work while nigth

[fluid sapphire]

thats inefficient

[whole crown]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[fluid sapphire]

no embeds here

[strange vortex]

1

[fluid sapphire]

16 hours and 40 minutes to cook up 1000

half if you sloop it

[strange vortex]

Rn i have 390/1000

[dapper hollow]

wait quick question is there a place where you can discuss bugs and glitches

[fluid sapphire]

ah, nvm, cant sloop at that stage

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @fluid sapphire

[fluid sapphire]

less than 7 hours to go

[knotty kraken]

where do i ask for help with signaling? i seem to not get how they work

[sudden tide]

nukes will help u in every situation

[sudden tide]

they should also make all trees destroyable

[strange vortex]

Wdym all trees? Not all are destroyable?

[sudden tide]

nahh

[ivory condor]

Titan trees say hello

[sudden tide]

yeah it sucks ass when a tree can withstand 10 nukes 🥀

[ivory condor]

Titan trees laugh at nukes

[fluid sapphire]

this forest is old, very old

[supple canopy]

yea I know I made that observation but it's sooo frustrating

[fluid sapphire]

i set my auto save interval to 10 minutes but its still saving every 2 minutes 😠

[normal orbit]

did you apply the setting change?

[fluid sapphire]

i did, its a joke

the default is 5 minutes, it still feels like 2 minutes after setting it to 10

[normal orbit]

ah :p

[rigid wedge]

my block and pathing signals are set to right side but it always wants to place it on the left. even when I turn around 180 degrees it stays on the wrong side. any tips?

[fluid sapphire]

place one on the wrong side, then another one on the correct side, then delete the one on the wrong side

maybe?

note, right and left build modes are cosmetic only

[rigid wedge]

seems to work a little better now

[rigid wedge]

i have my trains always on the right so the signals are on the outside of the track

wait do you mean with cosmetic that

[fluid sapphire]

the build mode when you press R, if its set to right, and you have right handed traffic, should be all good

left makes them go on the inside

this mode toggle does not change the direction of the signal, only the placement

[rigid wedge]

ahh didnt know that ty

[fluid sapphire]

you will notice if you keep an eye on the arrow near the track when you are placing the signal

and the signal itself i suppose, they have a pretty clear front and back side

[rigid wedge]

is there a trick to influence the direction of the arrow?

[fluid sapphire]

i think it has to do with the direction you are looking at the track from

rarely had issue with it myself

[rigid wedge]

#screenshots message

im new to trains so hopefully i get used to it

[fluid sapphire]

did you try mouse wheel?

[rigid wedge]

yep does nothing

[fluid sapphire]

usually that changes the side, sometimes it can be stubborn, so you need the aforementioned technique

[wispy sun]

if i have an iron mk2 miner mining 170 iron per minute and i need to split them so that i get 110 on a belt and another 60 on a second belt from that miner, how can i split it like that?

[mild finch]

ez, make the second belt a mk1 belt

[wispy sun]

i was thinking of that but something about it wasnt clicking in my brain idk how to explain it

[mild finch]

it's not a "nice" solution

but i do not know of any nice solution for that

besides letting the machines limit the input

[wispy sun]

so i should put down a splitter and have one mk1 belt and the other one can be mk2/3?

[fluid sapphire]

why do you need to split it like that?

[wispy sun]

motor factory

[mild finch]

ye

[wispy sun]

that also makes automated wiring

[fluid sapphire]

just use a splitter?

[mild finch]

but the machines would limit item flow anyways if you wait enough

[fluid sapphire]

machines take what they need, the rest goes where it can

[wispy sun]

.

[mild finch]

so you don't even need to use the mk1 belt

[wispy sun]

got it

thanks

[fiery pewter]

I've done it

I've achieved true insanity

I have made a power plant-factory hybrid

it needs 7 GW external power

it makes the other 16 GW itself

[fiery root]

Guyyys i finally got coal plant and a nice power source from that!

Which makes me wonder how i managed to fuel enough biomass generators for 250MW...

[fiery pewter]

Nice!

that's like, 7 biomass generators, assuming you're using solid biofuel

[fiery root]

I had 10 biomass generators on my factory
Now i have 6 coal generators and am building 3 more

[fiery pewter]

good

[fiery pewter]

and it makes 15 HMF/min, 10 computers/min, 5 Adaptive Control units/min, 5 modular engines/min and 30 versatile framework/min

[frosty sedge]

Is 10 computers with or without sloops

[fiery pewter]

without

[frosty sedge]

Damm

[fiery pewter]

actually its 20 computers and 20 HMF

its just that 5 HMF are used and 10 compuiters are used

[frosty sedge]

What is a uh hmf

Totally lost mb

[leaden turret]

heavy modular frame

[frosty sedge]

Ohhh tyty 20 I make 6

With a sloop

[fiery pewter]

I could show the numbers, since it currently only sits in the modeler because its a mahoosive project, but you probably will get lost

[frosty sedge]

Is it a specialized factory or a mega one

[fiery pewter]

both kinda

[unkempt blade]

this is why you need to use something less confusing while planning like a beautiful mind wall

[fiery pewter]

my mom'd kill me

[olive urchin]

Hey, guys where do i go if if i have a question about a bug and there is nothing on it in the q and a section of the discord?

[unkempt blade]

she wouldn't kill you she'd just send you to a psychiatrist for satisfactory addiction

[fiery pewter]

true

[frosty sedge]

It's an absolutely amazing addiction

[unkempt blade]

and normally it's victimless until you take all the stuff off the walls so you have room to express your beautiful mind

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[frosty sedge]

I actually did do that kinda ngl for my factory

Big A3 paper

That screenshot is seriously impressive

[fiery pewter]

there's more.

I was bored.

[frosty sedge]

Random but so do you have one huge factory producing everything or loads of modular ones instead sry just Ur better than me wanna know how you play

[fiery pewter]

This will be the first megafactory

Also, on the

Ur better than me
Part

Wanna know what A.O.P. stands for?

[frosty sedge]

Sure

[fiery pewter]

Afraid of Oil Processing

I have 5 saves just stopped during the proces of making oil plants

[frosty sedge]

Ok that's different I still haven't made a real one 130h

I'm on aluminium before a real oil factory

[fiery pewter]

I have never progressed past oil

[frosty sedge]

Like never never?

[fiery pewter]

Yep

[frosty sedge]

How many hours do U have roughly

[fiery pewter]

Around 400

[frosty sedge]

Godamm

How come do you get bored at that point

[fiery pewter]

The bored part was more:
Me sitting in my room, being bored, randomly decides to plan first megafactory because I have nothing better to do

[frosty sedge]

Oil gets really fun it's scary but fun

For me it did anyway

[fiery pewter]

I know its fun

But like

I go big, and then megaprojects get really imposing

[frosty sedge]

Fair enough

[dapper hollow]

wait how can I escape the world borders?

[fiery pewter]

Speed

Aka, hypertube cannons

[frosty sedge]

Yea that'd probably work

What about the tier ship

[fiery pewter]

Or, factory cart with a gazillion pulse nobelisks strapped to it

[fiery pewter]

Also works

[dapper hollow]

okay but cant I use a mod that removes it

[thorny rampart]

You will be instakilled if you go far enough

[frosty sedge]

Probably or maybe an immortality mod

[fiery pewter]

Also, the world border isn't that big of a deal

It's a couple hundred metres away from the coast

[dapper hollow]

no because I had a mod on and it worked ounce

[frosty sedge]

How come you want out anyway

[dapper hollow]

then I launched throught the same hyper tube cannon a second time and I died

[frosty sedge]

The map is big really big especially on the sky

[dapper hollow]

i want to make floating city

[frosty sedge]

Do it above its probably possible to get out but

[fiery pewter]

Ever tried building to world border?

[dapper hollow]

wait go to questions and helpI have screenchots there

[fiery pewter]

Not shooting but building

[frosty sedge]

Actually idk what the mods are like but would there be some sort of clear map

[dapper hollow]

No World Bounds this is the one I use

[fiery pewter]

I've seen where you want to build

[fiery pewter]

The killbox still exists ig

[unkempt blade]

Don't plan a megafactory that's always a bad idea. Just vibe it instead

[fiery pewter]

I don't work on vibes

I work on numbers

Yet I hate math

[unkempt blade]

That's my point! You need to adapt to 2026

[dapper hollow]

agreed

[dapper hollow]

and you need to adapt to satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

But I don't need modeler. I'm just built different

[dapper hollow]

theres multiple playing styles

[dapper hollow]

yh thats fine i dont use a modler either for basic stuff. But when it comes to achiving 130BWD per minuite I do

[unkempt blade]

You should just vibe the BWDs. It's not that tricky to get to 130-ish

[fiery pewter]

130 Ballistic Warp Drives per minute?

When you only need 200?

Gah dayum

[unkempt blade]

You're saying he should vibe 200/min? I like your amibition

[fiery pewter]

No I mean

Phase 5 space elevator needs only 200 BWD total

[fluid sapphire]

its some kind of creative mode project

[dapper hollow]

Im doing it in survivle right now

[fluid sapphire]

im not sure you can even make that many bwd in 1.1

iirc the max with all resources should be around 73

[dapper hollow]

no with summersloops its aroun 130 per minuite

[fluid sapphire]

perhaps

[dapper hollow]

but it uses evry last rescource in the world and is incredably hard to do without any planner

[fluid sapphire]

well, good luck, see you next year

[dapper hollow]

yh its a long term project

[dapper hollow]

although right now im getting to tier 9 and then i start to actually work on the project

[unkempt blade]

So 400/min? That's crazy!

[unkempt blade]

that's a lot of painting by numbers!

[dapper hollow]

wdym

[unkempt blade]

what's your favorite vehicle and why is it the factory cart?

[mortal ginkgo]

Carts have failed me due to their low output mate, sorry to say.

I wanted them to send all 3 elevator parts to Elevator with one station but alas

[unkempt blade]

did you try adding tons of them to the route?

[wise junco]

C a r t

[dapper hollow]

factory karts are my favorite to but I like trucks aswell cause they just look so cool

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah its not about that. the loading animation is too long for them to handle multiple TYPE of items from one station. they always gather the one that is recently put so other items pile up. I had to use 3 stations cuddled together

[unkempt blade]

ahh yeah I could see that with just the one inventory slot

[mortal ginkgo]

ya its a me problem but still made me sad a bit.

[unkempt blade]

I'm still going to say it's probably a skill issue but you're amazing and talented and I believe in you to figure it out

[mortal ginkgo]

Well yeah, I just managed to make it look pretty

[twin parcel]

exp 1.2 has a bug on truck station and industrial storrage , if u input two different item such as rubber and plastic in the storage , its supposed to output two different item the same way when both item/min is the same , but for some reason it just release one item only for both outputs .

similar problem with truck station.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but are the fluid trucks amazing? I'm just excited fluids are going to be even more perfect than they already are

[fluid sapphire]

you mean if you put two different items in a single truck station and connect that to an industrial storage with two belts, you are expecting one belt to carry one item, and the other belt to carry the other item?

[twin parcel]

my hmf factory got screwed , because it was designed to receive both rubber and plastic one truck station , now i had to use smart spilters and add some complicated crap to solve it .

[twin parcel]

yeah , it worked on 1.1 . but it doesnt on 1.2

[fluid sapphire]

the fact that it worked seems more like a fluke than anything, i dont think they are really supposed to guarantee that

[twin parcel]

they work when item/min for both items are same .

[rough shore]

just use a smart splitter

[fluid sapphire]

thats probably just dumb luck

[mortal ginkgo]

it seems you were really just lucky that it worked that way

it was never supposed to work like the way you wanted and many people expected "splitter behavior" and such from storages.

[fluid sapphire]

if it was reliable you would have people recommend mixed train cars too, but no

[mortal ginkgo]

But storages are just like me. "Doing stuff and hoping it works fine. 50% chance bro lets go".

[mortal ginkgo]

ah the PURE nightmare fuel

[fluid sapphire]

makes sense that they work the same way

[twin parcel]

hmm, i see

[simple pebble]

yeah, industrial storage just can't be used as a splitter

[supple canopy]

I have never seen industrial storage nor truck stations outputting two different items at once, even when filled with different items

[simple pebble]

mixed trucks/trains are still pretty handy though

[bleak mica]

is there a blueprint designer mk3?

i don't see it in T8

[simple pebble]

you just need dedicated sorting and they can't do one-to-many input-output
...(well, they can, but it's convoluted and requires extra stations/stops)

[high elk]

Small question, because I'm at this point on the edge of doing it for the 5th time;
Should I tear down factories and rebuild them as my demand expands? I try to make them modular as to always be able to increase demand but I keep running out of capacity.
This is my first playthrough and I'm at phase 3 atm

Sorry for bursting into the middle of a conversation btw.

[ornate saffron]

t9

[ornate saffron]

naw, there is lots of resources. leave the old and build new. this way you have old out put and new

[simple pebble]

I'd suggest just making a new dedicated factory - there's a ton of space, and it's easier to make use of new recipes and tools that way

[fluid sapphire]

stop trying to extend old production lines, build new ones

[bleak mica]

i'm also new, ppl preach "independence" as in setting up 'factories' for specific things, like to complete phase3 you set up production line that solves that particular problem

[supple canopy]

guys where did my photomode screenshots prior to 1.0 go? I just realized they were all gone

[high elk]

Alrighty then lol, seems I've obsessed over efficiency a bit too much. It's just that the most convoluted production line I have takes up a ton of space and makes 15 motors per min. Feels inefficient

[bleak mica]

you just need to be flexible as to what factory actually is, a bunch of productions with trains/trucks that ferry resources/components is a single factory lol

[fluid sapphire]

yeah thats something thats not made clear when people talk about "indepencency"

[high elk]

Also how do I do the switch from coal to petrol power? I'm at my power capacity for coal atm and I don't wanna waste a ton of time finding a place for a new one just to demolish it once I set up a petrol plant, but like to get to the fuel power milestone I need plastics sooooo is it non-optional?

[fluid sapphire]

just turn off some of your other stuff temporarily to gain some headroom

[high elk]

Ahhh valid tbh, I didn't think of that to be fair

[fluid sapphire]

you can slap down some kind of temporary setup to generate enough plastic/rubber to complete the milestones

and some for generators

[ornate saffron]

you get the plastic recipes under oil production. so setup that converting the Heavy oil residue into petro coke until you have the plastic you need

[high elk]

Oh right forgot that's a thing too.
Alrighty then I'll see what I can do
Thanks :3

[ornate saffron]

what i did was get lots of plastic from crash sites

[bleak mica]

you don't really HAVE to switch off old power plants if they're functional

I'm on tier 8 and still have biomass burners running because they haven't ran out of fuel lol

[ornate saffron]

i converted all mine into liquid bio fuel. As bio generators will not tuirn on unless ytou need the power

[bleak mica]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

that explain it lol

[fluid sapphire]

yeah they only run if you dont have the capacity otherwise

[ornate saffron]

bio generators turn themselves onto sstandby if you dont need the power

[tame bobcat]

i did that, used somersloops AND made it fill up one of those beefy fuel tanks lol and it legit never runs out now

[bleak mica]

what do you use it for

[tame bobcat]

jetpack fuel (literally only that 😭)

i have it connected to a dimensional depot too so im basically set

[ornate saffron]

I did that too. but eventually i just sunk it all

[fluid sapphire]

liquid biofuel stops being useful once you get ionized fuel

[leaden cosmos]

are the 4m foundations better to use? (most of the time)

also better question than my previous one... the heck is a zoop building mode

[ornate saffron]

even normal fuel. I prefer the speed over height, although its a matter of preference

[brazen pecan]

what area should i put a nuclear obilisk, phase one

[fluid sapphire]

i will take liquid bio over normal fuel any time, the burn time feels so bad

[ornate saffron]

zoop allows you to build multiple items at once in a line

[leaden cosmos]

oh. default doesnt i see

[ornate saffron]

as for which is better? none, they are just tools. over time you figure out where you prefer to use each

[leaden cosmos]

ohoki

[simple pebble]

4m is nice for getting your building a flat level above uneven ground easily, but it's kinda overkill if you're using it to lay a higher floor or ceiling in a factory, yeah?

[twin parcel]

dam its so hard making power plant producing 100% of the calculated energy

[simple pebble]

The different sizes all have different uses really

[twin parcel]

i just use 2 m , for ground floor , 1 m for ceiling , idgaf about terrain clipping .

[fluid sapphire]

i almost always use 4m just so its easier to line up with other pieces

[simple pebble]

You know, putting the walls on is the part I find hardest when making a factory, so I get it lmao

[sterile blade]

I like to have 4m foundations below most machines (I may make an exception for the smallest ones, sometimes)

[worn oar]

Is there a way to visualize what is consuming power and how much, like you can in dyson sphere program? I've been trying to use satisfactory modeler to stay organized, but there is somehow 292 MW of power just... gone. Can't find what's using it.

[simple pebble]

oh yeah this is a good use

I like the frame foundation with 1m grip metal atop it

[sterile blade]

It can work out well with "trench-style" logistics, if one likes that kind of stuff (I love to route logistics that way, slapping glass foundations above it)

Ie: one can "carve" logistic channels directly inside the 4m floor

[simple pebble]

oooh yeah

I might have to try that

[sterile blade]

There are so many fun ways to make things

[mortal ginkgo]

speak for yourself, I cant make this Pole Tower look good

[elder oracle]

RAHHHH

[gusty schooner]

warp drives are so hard to make😭

[elder oracle]

ballistic warp drives are harder

[mortal ginkgo]

go jail pls, gulag preferred

[worn oar]

It's the most complicated recipe in the game sans modded, of course it's hard!

[elder oracle]

no

[ornate saffron]

2.5mil sink points tho

[faint willow]

What do y'all usually dump in the awesome sink? I've been chucking solid biofuel in there rn

[worn oar]

Reanimated SAM, before that literally anything, after that spare project parts

[faint willow]

I can't even find SAM, I'm assuming that's something I'm not gonna be able to get to without a hoverpack anyway

[worn oar]

There's no good reason to chuck biofuel in there

Starting location?

[faint willow]

Uhh, first one. Grassy?

[worn oar]

I'll give you a hint: beware a sudden long drop

[faint willow]

The sudden long drop I had to load a previous save from