satisfactory

[plain marten]

unreliable

[reef basin]

But infinite

[plain marten]

how many power shards from slugs are there in the map if you sloop them all

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @reef basin

[royal mortar]

does anyone know what i can do about this visual bug? #screenshots message

[jovial night]

5318

[plain marten]

neat

[jovial night]

596*2 (blues) + 389*4 (yellows) + 257*10 (purples)

[fringe stirrup]

is it even possible to fully complete the alien tech tree

[jovial night]

Yes 100%

I've done it before

And still had a bunch of mercers left over

There's 298 Mercer spheres per world

Takes like roughly 50 iirc to complete the mam

My bad it takes 97

Which leaves you with 201 dimensional depos

[small crypt]

if my manifold ratios are sound, i shouldnt need to wait for full machines right? seems like it would sort itself out

[fluid sapphire]

Haha nice, that's truly cursed

[fluid sapphire]

Manifolds always have a spin up time and work themselves out

[floral trellis]

toying with hypertubes, how do i operate a hypertube branch?

i cant ever seem to take the branching path

[small crypt]

learning the hard way that i should be keeping buffers of all intermediate products, i keep getting wire/rod jumpscares in the tier unlocks

[floral trellis]

buffer everything except screws really

[reef basin]

don't buffer intermediates

unless you mean "storage", then sure, make a production for every item you need

[floral trellis]

ah. cycle direction. E found it.

[small crypt]

i just had to shut down stuff that was using wire because i needed 2,000 of it unexpectedly

[reef basin]

yeah have a separate factory that makes wire

[merry rapids]

do i have to have storage to every miner i have?

[reef basin]

wdym "storage to miner"?

if you mean storing ores, then no, don't store those

[merry rapids]

okay! ty

[floral trellis]

usually, just match the processing to node production, so the resources just flow

i guess theres an arguement for storing ores, so you can prefill machines in blueprints

but eh, a manifold will fill over time

[merry rapids]

i have 2 hours played so dont know sjiet

[hollow hazel]

@lavish lance How do you PrtSc on console? 🤔

[bleak mica]

why can i never align belt from the miner, it's always slightly bent

[small crypt]

problem is i used an iron node for wire reinforced plates, one for modular frames, and the third one for rotors, so any time i needed wire, or regular rods, or regular plates, i couldnt

so im off to find a node for each of those

[floral trellis]

yeah youd likely want a node for each, with their own production lines

[bleak mica]

#screenshots message

[merry rapids]

and their own storage?

[small crypt]

as long as there is 1 pure node on the map for every item in the game otherwise its gonna get complicated

[floral trellis]

preplace the conveyor support?

[dense violet]

why pure?

[reef basin]

align to what?

[floral trellis]

yeah, a couple boxes for each would give some nice supply for building

[dense violet]

nodes aren't on the world grid
another reason why the wg is a trap

[reef basin]

ah, well because the miner is not on grid (and world grid is a trap)

[small crypt]

idk, keep all the ratios simple

[dense violet]

until tier 9 youre capped by your belt speed form your miner - and none of hte ratios really match up

also - ratios are meaningless since you can clock your machines

[small crypt]

at my main starting spot there are 3 pure iron 2 pure copper and a pure limestone that im using for everything

[dense violet]

ok? someone told you to start in the northern forest or something/

[floral trellis]

honestly, id use curve mode and have the ore exit at about 90 degrees with a nice curve, not perfect, but visually better than a wonky exit

btw, you can put some 1m foundations over the ore node, then snap the miner to that. trick to make it adhere the grid

[dense violet]

it only changes the position of the miner vertically, not to the world grid

[merry rapids]

such a fun game 😄

[reef basin]

or you can just not put foundations under a miner

mining through the foundation looks horrible anyway

[dense violet]

it should only output rubble when yo udo that

[floral trellis]

obviously you remove the foundations used to place it

[small crypt]

i just figured wood would be useful, and it was

[reef basin]

why use a foundation in the first place?

[bleak mica]

that's what I did

[small crypt]

i dont include the miners in my layout, theyre just under it

too messy to align with

[dense violet]

except that still doesn't line the miner to a grid, eh well

[floral trellis]

very sensible already

[lavish lance]

im sure consoles offer a way to screenshot

[rigid wedge]

Do cables have infinite throughput for electricity?

[reef basin]

yeah

[rigid wedge]

Crazy

[hushed frigate]

running the entire US power grid through a single 1 inch diameter cable

[mortal ginkgo]

there is also a glitch that can make distance between two connected poles limitless so you can have both strongest and longest cable in one go! 👍

[smoky flame]

I'm trying to design a back up generator set up that produces 2 gigawatts using an oil node with the minimum footprint, I'm having 2 refineries feed into 4 overclocked fuel generators, polymer resin go into sink, any recommendations for going without an awesome sink

[cold berry]

I have the floors of all the factory space done on this week and a half freaking project. But all the computer chips will be done soon ayyyyye

[hollow hazel]

Then provide the appropriate instructions, both for Xbox and PS, and how to have these two connect with Discord for uploading instead of making a meme that makes you seem like you assume everyone plays with mouse and fully functional keyboards.

[lavish lance]

are you mentaly well?

doesnt sound like it

seek help

[hollow hazel]

I play Satisfactory, of course I'm not mentally well.

[dense violet]

You could do a giant ass storage?

[smoky flame]

I want something that can output indefinitely

[reef basin]

afaik both of those have an app to share screenshots

[edgy python]

is there any tool or mod to count machines easier because for the last 30min or so ive been going crazy trying to figure out why i have 113.34 refineries producing 6800packaged fuel somehow going into only 106 packagers but then when i count the conveyer inputs(groups of 8 for mk4 conveyer) its somehow correct? which confuses me even more and i have counted the refinery output groups and the input groups for the packagers and their in groups of 8(im not 100% sure i counted correctly) so idk what to do now

[normal orbit]

dismantle mode and object filter, only counts to 50 tho

[dense violet]

so a sink

[normal orbit]

or use coloring, like color the 5th and its easy to count

[dense violet]

compare it to the plan you made?

[edgy python]

it adds to 106 but then im confused where are 8 refinery outputs going

[edgy python]

i have the correct amount of refineries and water packagers but not the correct amount of fuel unpackagers with a input

[dense violet]

if you think the machines are wrong you're likely just getting a stuttering system but not seeing it

[formal sail]

guys

anyone help?

How does alien power augmenter work??

[plucky bone]

If I have a train with Raw Quartz onboard, will it dump at 2 spots if It has enough on to do so? Just one car. It's always got a full car almost.

[formal sail]

Thx for the explanation 😄

[plucky bone]

Well I dunno exectly. Whatever it says in the menu. Just hook it up. That's all.

Base 500 and more depending on grid size I think.

[topaz shale]

It produces a flat 500mw of power and then boosts the rest of the power system by 10%.

[formal sail]

only?

[topaz shale]

If you feed it alien power matrixes at 10/min, which is late game, then that boost goes to 30%

[topaz shale]

Per augmenter but yes. It does help give some free power especially when you start building the larger power setups.

[formal sail]

oke

thx

[topaz shale]

I'll only ever really build one since I want to use the sloops for other things.

[formal sail]

isnt it glitched tho?

i dont have a slot for a somersloop in it

[topaz shale]

10 sloops are used to build it.

[formal sail]

yeah but i cant put in a somersloop

i looked it up on yt and it looks like im missing a slot for it in it

[merry rapids]

any beginner tips for me? 😄 or just learn as i go 😄

[formal sail]

learn as you go 😄

more fun

[normal orbit]

aint no slot for a somersloop in an augmentor

[edgy python]

I genuinely don’t know I have the correct amount of refineries but somehow 8 refinery outputs disappear I’ve checked all the logistics and it’s correct yet somehow it doesn’t go to 4 fuel packers if I could turn it on , see what’s wrong

[topaz shale]

I don't believe that there ever was a sloop slot for it and if there was, I don't think that video is up to date.

[formal sail]

on yt there is

[normal orbit]

there is not

[formal sail]

😄 yeah its 1 year old

[normal orbit]

theres never been a slot for it

[formal sail]

yes

there is addm me

i will send u a screenshot

[leaden turret]

use #screenshots or #off-topic-media , don't be requiring people to dm you

[formal sail]

oke

hold on cooldown...

[normal orbit]

still no slot for it

[formal sail]

yuhh there iss

literally its there 😄

[normal orbit]

where?

[formal sail]

ont the screenshot

[normal orbit]

where in screenshot

[formal sail]

there

on the left

[normal orbit]

and what does it say on the left?

[topaz shale]

That's not a sloop slot.

[formal sail]

ok, mb

ban me

😄

whats that matrix

[normal orbit]

the things you can learn by reading :p

the mam might offer a clue

[cedar vault]

greetings peoples

[unkempt blade]

it's some boomer movie I think

[formal sail]

ighhh

[hollow hazel]

!wikisearch alien+power+augmenter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alien+power+augmenter

[unkempt blade]

just like I said, it even mentions keanu reeves

[normal orbit]

kinda curious why the wiki says making a blueprint is useful for harddrive hunting

just... build one? why blueprint it

[leaden turret]

presumably that'd be in the context of "need to build and fuel 20 biomass burners"

blueprint power and mam for one-click deploy

[normal orbit]

"Making a Blueprint out of an Alien Power Augmenter becomes very useful when doing Hard Drive Search and Recovery (HDSR) Missions as it generates 500 MW of power on its own"

[summer smelt]

Got 70 turbomotors in tier 1. Those points are looking pretty juicy

[unkempt blade]

it needs lots of extraneous decorations so you can be styling while you're unlocking

[leaden turret]

is a wiki, press x to doubt edit

[ornate saffron]

Gotta look good while you brave the dangers

[hollow hazel]

Treasure hunting in styyle.

[dense violet]

you should use a planner to help keep track of all the numbers , like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[hollow hazel]

Heh, imagine if the game could play a bit like gmod. You Blueprint a giant truck with an augmenter onboard (and maybe some storage containers) and go exploring the world completely protected from all the wildlife, and you drive over a pod, open the door in the floor, and attach a cable.

[leaden turret]

can you blueprint hard drives?

[normal orbit]

kinda yeah :p

[hollow hazel]

What do you build with hard drives?

[leaden turret]

brain farted over the "yes, but you'd need one in your inventory, can't dupe glitch that way marv"

[normal orbit]

there are ways :p

[plucky bone]

Slooped all my alien bits and got a whole small container so far.

[unkempt blade]

I would think maybe at least... you could put them on a conveyor or a container or something in the BP

[hushed frigate]

250% overclock and 2x overproduction together is very funny

this one manufacturer is consuming over twice the amount of power that my grid produces

[native tapir]

Yes

[cedar rock]

I cant decide sand desert or northen forest for a starting location

[dense violet]

norther forest you ahve to build vertically but belts to resources are shorter

but you'll ahve to spread out soon enough anyway so no big dif

[cedar rock]

I have an old save in nothern forest but i really want to start a new one since experimental

[dense violet]

there really isn't much that is new in 1.2

[old grail]

when yall make late game items, you build the factory from the smelter that processes raw ore to the manufacturer that produces the desired item, or you import basic items from other places? I had an idea to build huuuge smelting facility of iron ore that makes basic stuff and then attempt to transport those items to other facilities instead of building every factory from smelter. Anyone approached it like that?

[reef basin]

always build from raw

centralised intermediates are pain for logistics

(but definitely doable, just more complex and harder)

[steady dome]

You can build howver you want; but generally it's recommended to produce locally

[old grail]

i thought logistics could be a problem yeah

[plucky bone]

I usually do that. I have a big main with 80% there, outposts built on nodes to bring in via train, truck drone etc finished pieces. All essentials up to T3 are made in house. Then I started "Wandering"

[hasty estuary]

hello guys

im using satisfactory tools production calculator

does anyone know how to input alternate recipies? i already ticked the box for the one im using but the calculator is still giving me the default recipe version

[dense violet]

un tick the other recipe

to force it to use the alt

[nimble jungle]

how does the valve work, does it limit it the flow into one direction, but has no resistance to the other direction, or does it automatically only let fluids flow into one direction

[hasty estuary]

thank!!!

[light juniper]

it makes the fluid only able to go one way and to restrict the flow

[reef basin]

and it sucks at both

[reef basin]

it kinda can limit something, but it's pointless to use and can mess up your flow

[nimble jungle]

so the go to always is, let everything fill until its full, and then start production?

[reef basin]

full pipes are happy pipes, yeah

but often you don't need to fully fill

[unkempt blade]

except they made fluids more perfect than they already are and finally let us daisy chain power

[wispy sun]

can i somehow copy buildings?

[elfin smelt]

middle click

[wispy sun]

what if i wanted to copy a farm

like i have a modular frame farm and i want to move it

[bold isle]

blueprint

[elfin smelt]

then thats blueprint job

[wispy sun]

how can i get it? im new to the game

[reef basin]

play the game

[wispy sun]

do i need to research something to get it

or what idk

[reef basin]

play the game

it will show you eventually

[bold isle]

accidentally found out that picking up a factory cart while someone else is deconstructing it dupes it

[wispy sun]

omds its just a t4 milestone

[bold isle]

why ask here if youre just going to look it up

[unkempt blade]

It's immaculate cartception!

[bold isle]

no, having another cart in the inventory slot and ending up with 4 carts is cartception

[light juniper]

does anyone know whether trucks or drones are more fuel efficient?

[dense violet]

they're used for very different situations so that doesn't really matter

also, fuel is basically free

[wispy sun]

i couldve looked up blueprints, but i did not know how to copy items

[dense violet]

blueprints don't copy things, you build a blueprint and then build it

[reef basin]

heavily depends on specific setup

[unkempt blade]

Accounting for total power/fuel costs for each + the relative inventory size I would guess trucks for most things. As others said depends on the route, etc. though

[bold isle]

foundation bridges ❤️

[ornate saffron]

Drones ignore every and will clip through mountains and building to get to there destination. And have only 9 slots

Trucks need a path.

I like planing trucks around the games dirt roads. It makes pathing much easier

[plucky bone]

Yup. somehow I got a snake of rails on the west side in all them hills by the oil. All the way along in that mess of turns and hills.

[earnest palm]

where can I find players to play with on my server?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[earnest palm]

Yea, I've overlooked the damn NEW POST button...Sry

[cedar vault]

greetings peoples of satisfactory

[void cliff]

Greetings, humansperson

[cedar vault]

hru?

[royal mortar]

does anyone know what i can do about this visual bug? #screenshots message

[cedar vault]

no clue whatsoever

[knotty bear]

Got the hover pack and I am speed running the first tier of phase 4

Actually have no idea where to find gas filter

[rough shore]

u craft it pal

[knotty bear]

With what recipe

[rough shore]

idk but i remember it involves fiber

[knotty bear]

Fiber?

[rough shore]

i meant fabric mb

cant u find it in the codex or equipment workshop?

[knotty bear]

is that from mam?

[rough shore]

yeah when u research gas mask

[knotty bear]

The codex won't show me the recipe.

[plucky bone]

Woohoo.Hit the 600/min processing mark.

[fluid sapphire]

Mycelia research

[rough shore]

a gas filter needs a gas mask sir

[bold isle]

lodge it in your throat now it doesnt

[ornate saffron]

Mycilia MaM tree

[rough shore]

what does MaM stand for

never thought about it 🤔

at the same time i feel like its written on the ui and im making myself look stupid

[ornate saffron]

The game tells you in the description. Molecular analysis machine i think

[unkempt blade]

malamutes are marshmallows

[lean fossil]

what are some aluminium recipes I lwk need

[rough shore]

water

[unkempt blade]

aluminum beams or aluminum rods so you can make screws with them

[lean fossil]

I don't believe in screws.

[rough shore]

YES

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, you're allowed to be wrong

[rough shore]

congrats u are already better than like 95% of satisfactory players

[rough shore]

woah woah woah

[white dawn]

Honestly there's a lot of fun aluminum chains; I'm of the opinion there's no one chain that's better than the rest. On my last playthrough I used about four of them across the playthrough

So IMO: just get them all. :)

[reef basin]

depends on your preferences. There's no "you always need this" recipe

[unkempt blade]

All people are welcome! Even those who don't have enough experience to appreciate screws yet

[lean fossil]

I'm not ash-

[knotty bear]

Stitched iron plate seems like a good recipe, any objections to getting that over high speed connector? I somehow didn't read it right before.

[reef basin]

pick what you want, you can get all recipes anyway

[rough shore]

what if u lose all ur hard drives and dont have screws for an awesome shop to buy hard drives

[reef basin]

that's not possible

[rough shore]

how

[reef basin]

you can always mine iron and handcraft screws

[rough shore]

yeah but they are screws

[reef basin]

?

[rough shore]

🤮

[unkempt blade]

Just think about the hard drives! Focus on the reward

[rough shore]

ok update guys i scanned a bought hard drive and got cast screws and steel screws

[dense violet]

pick whichever you'll use sooner

[fading whale]

There are more harddrives than there are recipies. So unless you actively throw out your drives, you will eventually unlock all recipies.

[reef basin]

and even if, you can buy drives

[rough shore]

aint no one got time to craft 250 screws

[reef basin]

make a machine to do it for you

[rough shore]

but then i have a screw factory

[floral sparrow]

Is the Ada remark when you use the portable miner about nothing visually or contextually suggesting it can attach to a conveyer belt an inside joke about beta playtesters or something?

[reef basin]

which you want anyway

[rough shore]

woah

[unkempt blade]

you could get the first screws from crash sites and then make a factory to make more

[rough shore]

or i just get the screws from a crash site and not have to make more

[real shale]

The portable miners remind me of Molly from DRG

Which i suppose is fitting given the achievement you get for using them being called "Rock and Stone" being a DRG reference itself

[stark ridge]

So I just unlocked power towers and would like to use them, but I cant figure out how to place them. with normal power poles I could just select power pole and then draw line from that and it would complain me if the cable got too long. I tried to get line from power tower, but it still gives me only the power pole distance. So is there a button or something i should press after selecting power tower so that I can automatically place that instead of power pole or soemething?

[true mulch]

Happened too often in early access

[true mulch]

It has two connection points

[stark ridge]

ah now I get it. thank you

[true mulch]

The upper one connects to power towers and has 3x the range

[stark ridge]

was not very intuitive, but now clear as day. thank you very much!

[fading whale]

Most things are super easy. Once you know them 😄

[cedar rock]

What is the best color to see the hologram clearly

[unkempt blade]

I use a hot pink and lime green swatch and it works really well

[edgy python]

reminder to anyone who ever thinks they have wasted their time , you havent i just spent 2h tryna figure out why im only counting 106/113.34 packagers in my production line js to realize i for some reason didnt go further down the production line and i missed the conveyer input that was clear as day

[unkempt blade]

yeah but more importantly did you have fun?

[edgy python]

absolutely not i was genuinely hitting my table cause i couldnt figure out whats wrong

[fallen orbit]

Does the game not give you achievements if you turn creature hostility off?

[edgy python]

it does , at least ive been getting steam achievments

[fallen orbit]

For a moment I got scared with the thumbs up lol

[winged root]

Do pipes follow the rules of gravity? (If I place my main input pipe at an elevation then branches going into generators down will there be sloshing from those feeding pipes)

[fluid sapphire]

1. build
2. double check
3. after everything is done, triple check
4. 

[dense violet]

yes, there'll likely still be sloshing depending on your flow rate

[winged root]

I see yeah guess I’ll need to pull out piping for a turbo fuel power station of 44 generators as 5 keep starving (it is def due to sloshing so I’ll get to it)

[fluid sapphire]

if you're pushing for a close to max or max flowrate on a mk2 pipe, either loop the pipe or split up the system

[dense violet]

loop https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1488410915371225188/1488735674763968614/image.png?ex=69d47424&is=69d322a4&hm=3c7005a175ee11ee9bfbf50edd3f916692c3efa7b9539b9a964fd77816c8952b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[winged root]

Thanks m8

[long kestrel]

how do i switch bomb types? i have both the gas and cluster but dont know how to switch inbetween them

[fallen orbit]

The quartz at the left top corner of the map where are they??

[dense violet]

flood the system by under clocking a couple gens, and when everything is fully flooded clock them back up. Full pipes are happy pipes

[green fiber]

hold R

[winged root]

I see, will this serve a similar purpose as a “water tower”

[green fiber]

not really

if the pipe flow rate is maxed out, a tower somewhere wont help fill up generators faster

this is really just so you can skip the time where generators run and idle periodically

[fallen orbit]

Can someone help with this am at the exact location and there's nothing there

[green fiber]

in a cave underneath you. main entrance is on the west coast
might need bombs to open that cave up

[fallen orbit]

That's sad because the only quartz I have near me are those and I want the walkers😭 I do have bombs though but idk where the cave entrance is

[green fiber]

like i said, west coast

you just keep going west till you are at the ocean

[fluid sapphire]

scim also has caves marked i believe?

[fallen orbit]

West from where the quartz are?

[green fiber]

there will be a big clipp where you drop off and thats the "roof" of the cave entrance

[green fiber]

yes

[fallen orbit]

Alright I'll try to get there

20 bombs enough?

[summer smelt]

Tier 1 . 100x randomized done. COAL power here i come. RAAAAAAH

So much wildlife turned to biomass

[fallen orbit]

Man i was only looking for quartz but I found sam this saved the day thanks for the suggestion for west coast

[worn oar]

Just 100x, not the other options? Respect. A lot of people seem to not want to combine them all which is just too much

[long kestrel]

whats the ebst way to deal with mobs? is it just to bomb them?

[cold berry]

14 part checklist computer factory has 6 parts left, one of which is "turn it on".

[summer smelt]

.25x power consumption thought. Want more to build stuff than be forever stuck to fill map with power towers

But still having 540MW just biomass power

Randomizer gave me very nice ores. Forest have half SAMs

[fluid sapphire]

the easiest way is to not deal with them at all by enabling peaceful mode

[summer smelt]

quartz and shrapnel shots

one shot basic mob and unlocks in tier 1

[long kestrel]

assume the user cannot enable peaceful mode

[summer smelt]

And if thats not enough, you can use more than one gun FYI

[long kestrel]

i see

[summer smelt]

switching to secondary is faster than reloading

[fluid sapphire]

playing on someone else\s server? otherwise they can

[long kestrel]

so theoretically i can have 5 rebar guns

[long kestrel]

they told me "no we arnt pussies"

[fluid sapphire]

the enemies are a joke past a certain point

just a distraction for building

[long kestrel]

it takes 5 normal nobelisks for killing one of those big hogs

the radiation ones are even worse

[edgy python]

you see i was doing that but its pointess if like me you missed a conveyer belt because i thought there wasnt one or smth? idk why i didnt look i checked around 7 times in total and never looked

[worn oar]

#screenshots message Relying on trucks for coal power makes it a bit spiky 💔

[edgy python]

uhh whats sloshing in satisfactory never heard of it i js raise the pipe intersection above the input slightly so the fluid goes down into the building

[edgy python]

how do you get it to be that bad bro

trucks arent that hard💔

[worn oar]

Machines take their needed water in one big gulp, then it takes time to refill

[edgy python]

ohh your using trucks to transport fluids?

[worn oar]

The route uses 9 coal per minute out of 120, and I have enough power plants for 120 coal. So the generators are slightly undersupplied.

[edgy python]

why not build an actual coal powerplant there so many great places

water and coal are right next to eachother

[worn oar]

I did build an actual power plant. Two of them.

[edgy python]

oh sorry thats just me usually i build my coal powerplants to make around 4800mw

theres lots of places with 4 normal nodes so

[worn oar]

Quick and dirty setup using my mk2 belts, which will be upgraded either when I need it or at T4 belts

[cinder jay]

as first time nuclear builder is there a "best" spot to build my first nuclear factory???

[worn oar]

Somewhere with a LOT of water and land. Many people choose to build it off the coast to suck up as much water as needed, but the middle lake, east estuary, crater lake, and north inlet also have enough water for a basic nuclear plant.

[edgy python]

the big waterfall place at the first starting location with the caterium node and hard drive i like it as theres lots of water and its pretty but if your building nuclear things there isnt really a set place as long as you can get a lot of water and any uranium ore can be transported by drones or trains at that stage

[cinder jay]

okay thank youuuu

[edgy python]

i always build massive setups currenrly im building a 6000fuel +2000turbofuel/min setup

[worn oar]

I have a tragic time-wasting habit of cheating and then restarting to play "properly"

So here I am back at phase 2 again lol

[edgy python]

me not rlly i js stop usually when i finish phase 3 and then have a long period where i restart and then play again

[boreal pagoda]

Is there a channel to ask for other people to play with ?

[edgy python]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[boreal pagoda]

Ty

[nova garnet]

Guys Can anybody Tell me if it was a good idea to start making a Factory for 73 ballistic warp drives and like 150 ai Servers as a side product?

[mortal ginkgo]

73.. min?

[nova garnet]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

isnt that an insane setup..?

[nova garnet]

You Need like alot of Everything

Can i send a satis Tools Link in here?

[fluid sapphire]

good luck, that should keep you busy for a while

[nova garnet]

It sure will

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4X0vYN4UXl0Xj54ySuvy

[edgy python]

will we ever get a liquid sink instead of having to pack it and then sink it

[tender furnace]

Hello, i am playing the satisfactory experimental build and got a lot of stuttering while playing and walking. On stable i dont got this. My PC is mid to high end with 32 GB DDR5 Ram und 12GB VRAM. I am not using the lumen lighting and my ram or Vram is not full.

Is this a known issue?

[nova garnet]

100% of i think abt half of the different resources

[fluid sapphire]

can you even make that while also making enough power to power everything? or are you using the modifiers in EXP to achieve this

[nova garnet]

This would be a good Addition to 1.2 …

[nova garnet]

Im Doing a Creative World i think

[fluid sapphire]

ah, ok

[nova garnet]

It takes like 800gw

[edgy python]

i get if water would have a value of 0 but rn i need to dump a lot of spare fuel as id need to build 180 or so temporary gens to use it and i need to get rid of it so it would stop causing my refineries to idle as their full and i constantly need to drain fluid buffers

[fluid sapphire]

plan your builds such that its not necessary to do that?

we are almost certainly never getting a fluid sink

[umbral pulsar]

hey all, looking to put the spray patterns down on some foundations, having isuses with the corner lines, there is 4 different ways to place the pattern, however it only gives me 3 options and skips the last one, which i need. any suggestions?

[empty bridge]

Hi All. With the assembler do you need to route the resultant production into a storage container via a conveyer belt?

[umbral pulsar]

you dont need to, but its ideal for a storage buffer

so you can manually craft them, or have another process pull from the box

[empty bridge]

so, without a container where does the production go to?

[edgy python]

the storage

[umbral pulsar]

its stored internally in the machine until the stack limit is reached

[edgy python]

of the assembler

[empty bridge]

and then what happens to it

[edgy python]

so when you click e on a machine

[umbral pulsar]

it turns off

[edgy python]

you will see the items

[edgy python]

if its reached the stack limit

[empty bridge]

ah..it comes into your inventory?

[umbral pulsar]

read up

[umbral pulsar]

@edgy python

[umbral pulsar]

no

[edgy python]

mb didnt see that

[umbral pulsar]

not unless you take them out of the machine

[empty bridge]

how do you take them out of the machine?

[umbral pulsar]

go into the interface

[empty bridge]

aah. ok

[umbral pulsar]

and control click on the item

[edgy python]

ok so when a machine is producing the prudct it stored in the machine click e on it then shift click the item#

[empty bridge]

got it

thanks

[snow rune]

I have the saddest factory out of all of you

[worn oar]

If you rearrange the letters in saddest factory it spells satisfactory

[empty bridge]

what machine converts limestone into concrete?

[cinder jay]

does anyone have a good model for a first time nuclear builder

[scarlet helm]

constructor

[empty bridge]

thanks!

[real shale]

Chernobyl is a good model

But for real, if you want some help planning it, tools is the way

[bleak valley]

If you hit O then find the item you want to make it tells what you machines can craft it

[wispy sun]

how do i use the concrete foundations? i just bought them in the sho and they arent showing up in my build menu

[bleak valley]

There is a drop down sorting the foundation types next to the name of each category change it to concrete or no filter

[mossy fulcrum]

it clearly wasn't...

[wispy sun]

ohhh i found it thank you so much

[bleak valley]

[umbral pulsar]

thought that was johnny sins

[bleak valley]

lol

[ornate saffron]

When you have the foundation in your hand you can hold e to bring up your circle menu the left click to change materials

[worn oar]

Too bad you have to tear down and reconstruct if you want to change it afterward

[real shale]

(that was the joke)

[plucky bone]

Does anyone have a clue as to why my blender doesn't keep up

[bleak valley]

In the customizer menu you can change materials of already placed ones iirc

[plucky bone]

Oops I got it maxed out for a cooling system. It had 3/4 what it can handle going in plus full water and nitrogen gas. Recipe can handle 30 heat sinks/min but can't keep up at 22.5

Lemme check my gas lines. Could be a MK 2 pipe thing.

[coarse nova]

Guys i started playing around a week ago, already have 83 hours playtime, and i can stably produce 5.8-6.8GW of power, is that good progress?

[white dawn]

Folks play the game at all sorts of different rates; don't try to compare your play time to anyone's. It's effectively a sandbox game -- so long as you're having fun, you're doing it right

Though if you've really got 83 hours in the past week: take more breaks, touch some grass/snow/whatever-you've-got-where-you-are

[coarse nova]

idk, i dont like touching grass

grass sounds scawy

tho the reasoning for my 83 hours is mainly due to me having been at the gathering

its a gathering where around 2000-5000 people come just to game

so i was pretty much gaming around 10-16 hours a day

[ornate saffron]

I played for 15 hours yesterday. I did go for a 45 minute walk though lol

[coarse nova]

i havent slept for 36+ hours yesterday lmao

and im a teenager mind you

[next ivy]

yes, now tell us what age exactly

and your adress, so i can send you candy

[civic ore]

I need help. For modular frames is it best to have a just modular frame factory or should I be connecting all my smaller factories already making the stuff into a new one

[next ivy]

completly up to yuo

[hearty solar]

Modular frames are easy enough I would recommend you build a new factory

[next ivy]

tho i would make a new factory for every part

just so i can actually rely on the numbers that i calculated

[coarse nova]

ye ye ik my bad thats why i deleted my previus msg

[coarse nova]

multiple factories is more energy efficient

[civic ore]

So people generally don’t have like an ore smelt area? Everything’s done on sight for the final product?

[coarse nova]

what? no there is a smelting are as well

[strange vortex]

Hello. I'm new here

[white dawn]

I generally keep my factories totally independent. If I need Modular Frames, I'll make a Modular Frames factory from ore->product, which outputs only to my own storage (ie: the stuff my Build Gun needs to build stuff). Then that factory's done; I don't touch it again. When some other factory needs more Modular Frames, I make more MFs right inside that new factory (which is also going from ore->product)

[coarse nova]

make many miners, many smelters and a couple assemblers

[civic ore]

I’d just finished my reinforced iron plate factory and it’s only making like 15 a minute and seeing I needed them for modular frames I was like oh my god I’ve built a factory that’s useless

[coarse nova]

i just find new resourse nodes to make more of that thing

[white dawn]

Nah, your 15/min RIPs are great for your own build gun use. Keep that factory as-is, doing its stuff

[coarse nova]

and transport to dimen depot

[hearty solar]

I smelt on site, but I know for some setups people will find it easier to smelt off site, in early stages I recommend building on site though so it’s easier to troubleshoot

[white dawn]

Whenever something else needs more RIPs, just make more RIPs inside the new factory (IMO)

[civic ore]

Right thank you. I’m just about to unlock the copy and paste machine. I think not having that yet is also causing me a lot of headache haha

[civic ore]

Rips? Sorry I’m new

[white dawn]

You end up making RIPs in like a dozen different factories across the map, but that way you're always only ever making exactly the amount you need. And remember that it's the same amount of "factory" to build either way, but this way you're not guessing about how much you need to build, and never need to bother with trying to "upgrade" existing factories (which is, IMO, harder than just building a new one from scratch)

[white dawn]

Reinforced Iron Plate

[civic ore]

Thank you. I was worried my “do everything in one location” was wasteful and I should’ve just made my rip factory bigger instead. Glad to see that’s not the case

[hearty solar]

It’s a little bit nice for conveyor mk2 when you need them and some of machines in the future will need them to be constructed

Iirc you also need 1 thousand of them later

[white dawn]

@restive pagoda (re: #screenshots message) -- Max BWD (with zero sloop usage) is a little over 73/min. 20/min should be fine. :) https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=okxpAcUYrXKHI0XMsdKr

[civic ore]

So you guys don’t worry that your “wasting” ore? Like my iron plate and rod factory is full now and I was thinking should I try to wire them into other factories so that the product isn’t just sat there

[white dawn]

There is far more ore on the map than many players realize. You really have to specifically try to exhaust resources before you'll ever come close

If you're willing to expand across the map and build factories near the nodes they need, you'll be fine

[hearty solar]

@restive pagoda try Somerslooping the items the SAM is used for to increase output for the items SAM is needed in

[white dawn]

(The only real exception is SAM, for players diving into Ficsonium production. It's not too difficult to run out of SAM w/ Ficsonium)

[restive pagoda]

thanks 🙏

[white dawn]

Don't even need to sloop SAM production for 20/min BWD. :P

[vernal vortex]

In what future recipes do i need modular engines?

[white dawn]

A lot of folks like Modeller to plan out factories, but remember it's not a solver. If you want to just see if something's possible, or get a high-level logical overview of a factory line, a solver like sftools is gonna be the tool of choice. You can then head back into Modeller if you like, to plan things out on a more granular level, of course.

(Though as I'm fond of saying, personally I prefer to just "plan" those kind of implementation details right in-game, so I'm not doing it twice. Having to do it once in Modeller and then again in the game always feels like a wate to me)

[civic ore]

I started on the dune sea and I’ve been doing this so far. I came here because my modular frame factory is gonna use 5 iron deposits and I was concerned I was being wasteful. However it appears there’s more iron then I will ever need to worry about lma

[hearty solar]

You could theoretically modify the factory to full overclock the Crystal oscillators and somersloop them to and it would effectively double your SAM sort of

[white dawn]

There's literally 92,100/min Iron Ore on the map. :)

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> video this week Friday and i don't mind even its a quick little house cleaning video and talking what has happened in the world of Satisfactory for few weeks and will there be a patch this week?

[civic ore]

Thank you and everyone else for the help!

I’ll have a lot less anxiety about sweating the details now haha

[white dawn]

Yeah, most players really don't have to worry about it

It is, of course, entirely possible to exhaust a local supply of something, at which point you may need to cart in some more material from somewhere if you want to keep building in the same area

But if you get into an expansion mindset there's really nothing to worry about

[leaden turret]

better question is will there be a why was there no patch last week 😛

[abstract heron]

ya for the video i don't mind even its a good house cleaning video etc etc and problems are people having on 1.2 etc etc and what they working on

[civic ore]

I’ve been debating running trucks to collect all the end product across my factories and run it to one spot but again haven’t because I wasn’t sure how to play the game really. By the sounds of it tho I might have to do this at some point

[white dawn]

Yeah, that's "Central Storage" -- you can definitely do it if you want, but it's sort of a labor of love nowadays

The "built-in" solution to that is in the Alien Technology research tree. You've got access to stuff which gives your build gun a "cloud storage" of sorts, so you end up hardly having to have any building material on you at all

It does take a nontrivial amount of exploration + time to get all the material to fully upgrade that system and build it out, so I do think that some degree of "central storage" can be pretty useful up until midgame or so

[civic ore]

So I should get to mining that Sam then huh

[white dawn]

But if you're diligent about exploring + upgrading that system then it does eventually basically totally remove the "need" for Central Storage

(some folks didn't build a central storage area even before the Depots were available, of course -- you can use ziplines/hypertubes/trains/vehicles/whatever to collect material from a bunch of different sites, if you don't mind having to stop at a few different places to pick up build material)

I'm among the dinosaurs who still enjoy building central storage -- I find it a fun logistical challenge -- but most folks can happily do without nowadays. :)

[dusky kayak]

anyone got free blueprints?

[civic ore]

I’m only tier 3 currently I’ll wait until hyper tubes then before I decide. Thanks for the advice your clearing up a lot of time sinks for me right now haha

[white dawn]

I believe there's like two websites out there where you can just download any ol' random blueprint that's stored on 'em. Though I'd recommend just making your own. Why have someone else play your game for you? :)

A search for "satisfactory blueprints" should bring you to what's publicly available, though

[rich parrot]

I sometimes use other people's prints for inspiration, but I always make my own version of them. It teaches you more about the game.

[white dawn]

-# (or do you mean "free" as in "not locked up." Someone out there imprisoning blueprints against their will?)

-# my own blueprints tend to be locked up on my own hard drive. Good luck getting to 'em, suckers!

[rich parrot]

I think he is referring to streamers sometimes locking them behind Patreon.

[leaden turret]

-# @grave burrow probably doing some cruel and unusual punishments on blueprints

[white dawn]

eesh, cringe

[leaden turret]

I sense this might break out into a #off-topic-general discussion, but why cringe?

[white dawn]

Heh, probably right re: channel change, but:

1. I find blueprint sharing to be tacky in the first place
2. I find paywalling content like that to be doubly tacky. I really despise the monetization of modding-adjacent stuff. (I realize blueprints aren't modding, but ehhhhh)

[rich parrot]

Well, it is their livelihood, so I kinda get why they might do that.

[leaden turret]

I refer you to the general problem of people doing labour for free and getting no support

[white dawn]

I admit I am of a different era/mindset to most folks doing it, so I'm happy to acknowledge that I'm an Old Man Yelling At Sky™. :P

[leaden turret]

"why's this mod not getting updated promptly" dev can't afford to work on it full time

[white dawn]

I feel that I've at least come by my crusty opinions honestly, as someone who's been using FOSS licenses for opensource work for decades now. :P

[leaden turret]

"why's this free content creator not creating free content any more?" 🌈 capitalism 🌈

[merry rapids]

😱

[worn oar]

What do you mean you can't do a professional level of hobby work for free

[leaden turret]

yeah didn't we get grouchy about that in #off-topic-general last time? not touching that with a barge pole until after I have had le food

[small crypt]

remember that cringe kid nobody liked that would invite you over to watch him play video games? yeah thats "content creators" except now they want money for it

[white dawn]

Hah probably. :D Anyway, I think that'll do for in this channel, anyway. :P If I were watching myself talk about this stuff I'd be telling me to get to an offtopic channel. 🥳

[grave burrow]

Oh without a doubt. I have blueprints of bugs that have been fixed but the blueprint will forever be mine XD CSS would love to have that folder deleted XD I have one blueprint that contains just over 10,000km of belts that takes about an hour to place

[blazing parcel]

@reef basin I keep trying to use satisfactorytools on my iPhone but I can’t type the production item in. No drop-down or keyboard appear. I feel thick, what am I missing?

[native tapir]

I think there are people out there who fit the category you're talking about. People using chatGPT to come up with opinions and making 15 second videos of talking into their phone? Sure.

But if you enjoy watching literally any Satisfactory Youtuber, streamer, etc. then you are watching thousands of hours of work. It's not too crazy that they would be able to make money from it (just as plays, musicals, movies, and tv shows have all made money historically)

[civic ore]

Nah you ain’t say nothing wrong making goddamn factory blueprints for a single player game is NOT labour and NOT worthy of getting paid for it

[leaden turret]

make me a set of 1:1 blueprints to piece together a version of the eiffel tower.

it's not labour, should be easy, right?

[civic ore]

Yes because that’s such a important and worthwhile goal

[native tapir]

Making factory blueprints in a game? No.
Making good blueprints in the game? Idk. I guess the market decides that answer. I wouldn't buy them but they are completely optional. If people want to pay for them, why do you care?

[civic ore]

Something being hard doesn’t make it important or even impressive

[native tapir]

Then don't buy the blueprints lol. I don't. Not hurting me if other people want to though.

[merry rapids]

So when i start over i have blueprints?

[white dawn]

(meh, I should've just kept my yap shut. I apologize for opening this particular box! Just 'cause I find something a bit cringe doesn't mean that my opinion's right, or that my opinion when applied to situations I hadn't considered might not be outright wrong.)

[civic ore]

Part of having a personality is having a opinion on things

[native tapir]

I think you guys are mad at capitalism, not creators. I don't really understand the argument that only artists shouldn't get paid but everyone else should. Particularly when the art takes so much time and effort.

[leaden turret]

part of being a [redacted] is [redacted]

gonna mute this person

[native tapir]

I mean, you paid for Satisfactory, correct? lol. When does art become worth paying for? There is a line somewhere apparently because you're here.

[rich parrot]

Artists would just spend money on wine and cigarettes. We are saving them by prohibiting them of income!

[true mulch]

The site isn't exactly designed for mobile sadly. I don't have an iPhone to test it myself, but the popup does appear for me on Android when the field is selected. Try displaying the site in desktop view

[civic ore]

What do you consider art. I do not consider playing a game to be art. The game itself? Sure

[native tapir]

<@&387163995947270144>

[dreamy nova]

Please don't be rude to other members

[merry rapids]

Drama

[clear aspen]

hello

[dreamy nova]

Hey, how are you doing

[clear aspen]

good, can i ask ur opinon on smth rq?

[dreamy nova]

Sure whats up

[clear aspen]

i have everything i need for my nuclear plant except waste management, should i start it up now and just store the waste for later or should i wait to unlock the stuff i need for waste management and then start it up?

[reef basin]

(just fyi while it's fine to ask like that, moderators aren't here to resolve game issues/game related queries)

[clear aspen]

ah

[reef basin]

you can just ask that here and anyone will answer

[white dawn]

So Uranium waste accumulates quite quickly -- some folks don't really like the rate, and will wait until they can at least process into Plutonium

[clear aspen]

im used to other serversm thats on me

[clear aspen]

im onlt making 150/m

[white dawn]

But you know how quickly you're generating waste, you know that waste has a stack size of 500, and you know the capacity of an Industrial Storage Container (or can quickly find one). So you know how "long" a single ISC gets you, in terms of waste storage.

[reef basin]

fair (though I don't know of any servers where "moderator" means "ping me for game help" 🤔 )

[dreamy nova]

I'll be real with you, I never got up to Nuclear in all of my like 50 saves XD

[native tapir]

I don't think he did. I pinged for moderator help

[white dawn]

A bit of math and you can decide how "big" you want your waste storage to be. With blueprints you can shove a lot of ISCs into a small space, pretty easily

[mossy fulcrum]

@strange vortex it's a Mercer Sphere. you should be able to interact with it

[reef basin]

he did indeed ping moderator with a message

[white dawn]

So, like, you could slap down "100 Hours" of waste storage, then you've got 100 hours of playtime until you've either got to expand your storage or have the next processing step figured out

[dreamy nova]

It's not that deep

[reef basin]

I know and as I said above it's fine. But doesn't change that he did it 🤷

[native tapir]

Alright I missed it. Forgive me Greeny

[white dawn]

IMO, waste storage itself isn't a problem at all given the ease of setting up storage. The area of "dangerous radiation" will indeed spread out over time, but it's an inverse-square thing, and it's not gonna like cover the entire map or whatever

[strange vortex]

Let me guess, Its late game item?

[white dawn]

I forget the math but even with a lot of waste being generated I seem to think you need literal years of playtime to actually cover the map with dangerous radiation

[native tapir]

bet

[white dawn]

So especially if you're later planning on processing the waste (whether to a full "clean" solution or just generating Less Waste via Plutonium or whatever), do a bit of math to find out how many ISCs you want, and then slap down that many. :)

[blazing parcel]

It seems to lock the page. I do have it on my desktop but that’s nowhere near my Xbox sadly.

[drowsy skiff]

in my experience, getting to sinking Plutonium Fuel Rods is the most arduous step in the nuclear chain, far more complex than uranium or ficsonium

[small crypt]

is there a way to "zoop" multiple rows of foundations at a time

[drowsy skiff]

so if you need the power, store the waste, because it's going to take a while to build out the next step

[white dawn]

Not in the vanilla game, no, though making foundation-floor blueprints is often quicker than zooping

[small crypt]

oh good idea

[mossy fulcrum]

nah, pretty early/midgame

[fiery root]

Is there some actual story to follow in the game?

[true mulch]

sort of, regarding the alien artifacts

[true mulch]

@reef basin probably not happening until the rewrite, but console players are a strong reason to consider proper mobile support

[fiery root]

Like some glowing stones i can find?

Are we the Bad guys?

[small crypt]

pafo

[vapid isle]

hi peeps, anyone having issues to blue prints?

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's two "main" storylines -- the explicit one you're given by ADA at the start (which will progress as you go through the game) and another that Ondar mentioned. They're both a pretty "light touch." A lot more is left to interpretation than it is spelled out

So don't expect a really detailed info-heavy plot or anything

[leaden turret]

interpret deep and important lore meaning of the desert dong

[fiery root]

I see, thanks alot!

[small crypt]

im going to develop a cat phobia

[leaden turret]

there's a mod available if you want to develop a <@&370483737957236737> phobia instead

[fiery root]

But there surely wont be that much more than us being glorious pioneers and Helsingborg our civilization

[native tapir]

Already did this. It was to mock @fringe carbon

The devs or maybe ada could see into the future

[bleak valley]

Doug in the server

Awesome

[mortal ginkgo]

But why is he here?

[bleak valley]

[clear aspen]

i hope next april fools they add a AZ-5 button to nuclear reactors

[halcyon bloom]

im having an issue with my dismantler at the moment, im pressing F to try and dismantle a conveyer but it only shows "Dismantle mode: Blueprint" and wont let me dismantle anything

[white dawn]

Hit R to change dismantle mode

[native tapir]

Thanks for the kind words. I wish everyone was this happy to see me!

[reef basin]

yeah rewrite will have more mobile support 🙂 not sure how much though, as many things are pain to show on mobile

[halcyon bloom]

I didnt even know that was a thing! no hints or any of that, thank you ❤️

[white dawn]

Note that you've got that key available for changing build mode when doing all sorts of stuff with the build gun, btw, like belt/pipe style, etc. :)

[bleak valley]

The things you’ve done in this game are both awe inspiring and terrifying

[true mulch]

huh, are the binds not shown at the bottom center?

maybe not for dismantle mode

[bleak valley]

That specific bind isn’t shown I had to look this issue up for myself before

It’s only not shown for dismantle building shows the build mode

[halcyon bloom]

Only Dismantle, Mass, Filter, Close and Hide HUD

[true mulch]

ah, lol

probably worth reporting

[hearty meteor]

I can’t believe I have 1500 hours in the game and I just joined the discord 😭

[halcyon bloom]

whats the best way to do that?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @true mulch

[halcyon bloom]

bless up

[left sand]

Good evening has anybody had issues with blueprints ?

[plain marten]

how do oyu know beforehand how big of a train/truck you need

like how many carriages would be enough

[granite jackal]

hello

[granite jackal]

ig it depends on how much is produced vs how much is required at the other end, and also counting in the belt speeds.

[reef basin]

make one, check if it can sustain it, make more if not

as for freight cars, I just do one belt/pipe per car

[west jackal]

More specific

[west jackal]

Just build 1 train station per max belt speed buffered input (isc with mk5 going in and 2 mk5 between isc and station) run the train, if rates are too low add a second train with all the cars 🤷‍♂️

[fiery root]

Why is the main menu soundtrack such a banger?

[plain marten]

how long does it usually take for the new version to release after experimental is out

[west jackal]

Do the same with truck and you'll be mostly fine. I actually have higher rates with trucks that trains, I think thats because of load/docking times

[reef basin]

when main bugs are fixed and devs are happy with it

[west jackal]

Usually a few months

[plain marten]

and how long is that

[void arch]

Hello

[plain marten]

aw man

[reef basin]

depends on how many bugs are there 🤷
we cannot know until they announce it, it's not like there's some fixed schedule

[west jackal]

If you really want you can backup save and switch to exp

[plain marten]

i cant because i play multiplayer sometimes and my friends dont use experimental

[west jackal]

Uh... if all pc then they can all switch?

[reef basin]

have two installs. On Epic it's super easy

[west jackal]

Or have both downloaded?

[plain marten]

im on steam

[plain marten]

does that work

[west jackal]

You can do it on steam just a little more complicated I think

[fiery root]

Fellas Quick question
Why are we just talking about Version 1.2?
Didn't the game come with early access 6 years ago? Does thus game had such a long developing stage?

[left sand]

Have built a four lane conveyor belt system place it down and see it come out of game and the floor is there but no conveyor belts they have vanished but are still visible if you hover over them @west jackal

[reef basin]

early access was 0.X

there were 9 big updates among many small ones, then next update was 1.0 for going out of early access, which was september 2024

[west jackal]

Oh weird! Probably just a visual bug, if you reload does it come back?

[left sand]

No

[west jackal]

Weird... I've never had that issue with bps! Are you on 1.1 or 1.2? Console or pc

[worn oar]

They made the game good first before leaving early access

[west jackal]

It was good in 0.1 you jerk 😠

[left sand]

All I see is eight tiles of concrete @west jackal

[worn oar]

So was Factorio but it wasn't much of an experience

[west jackal]

Idk I had fun back then

[fiery root]

Oh amazing! I didnt mean to criticise(?)(critisice, critisise?)
It just came to mind now

[reef basin]

it was tho

[worn oar]

Rose-tinted glasses TBH

[west jackal]

Definitely better now, especially with everything not being WIP but i loved it

[left sand]

Can I send a picture in art and design @west jackal and see what you think ?

[fiery root]

Criticize? That word is difficult

[west jackal]

You can but I don't have an answer other than seeing if it works if you can see it in dismantle gun

[clear aspen]

yo i just wanna say the NPP's in satisfactory are absolutely not up to NRC standards, but who cares about those nerds

[fiery root]

Is the Design channel the right way if i want Feedback about how efficient my production is?

[west jackal]

Probably math and meta

Depends on what you're actually asking

[fiery root]

If there is a more efficient way of splitting my stuff

[west jackal]

Splitting how? You can ask in mnm

[reef basin]

splitting what, how
wdym by "efficient"

[neat plank]

I have learned the pain of tearing down a factory.

[granite jackal]

What's cracking?

[fiery root]

From one miner getting to more than one constructors so the output stays alk the same

[reef basin]

anything you do is basically efficient

[neat plank]

The ratios.

What do they mean?

[serene jolt]

how many freight platform should i use for my first train? it's just going from my 10 motor a minute factory to my main "base"

[reef basin]

one per belt/pipe

[serene jolt]

ok thanks

[west jackal]

20% of a stack per minute is like nothing for a train. and if its a non critical application i wouldnt even worry about it

[serene jolt]

yeah. just feel like i should learn to use trains at some point or another and it seems a little far to run conveyors

[sage venture]

Hello, is there anywhere I can get help setting up a satisfactory server?

[summer smelt]

That small just use factory cart

[true mulch]

it's possible to build splitters directly attached to building outputs now?

[west jackal]

depends how far it is

[west jackal]

not in 1.1... are you in 1.2?

[true mulch]

someone edited the wiki claiming so, but I haven't seen that discussed at any point

[west jackal]

it definately is NOT true in 1.1

[vernal vortex]

What recipes need modular engines? (how many should i aim for per min)

[next ivy]

#dedicated-servers probably

[west jackal]

well.. thermal propulsion units i believe, and ballistic warp drive?

[true mulch]

!wikisearch modular engine

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=modular+engine

[true mulch]

usage section lists them all

[west jackal]

you have to follow the path, it doesnt show that ballistic warp drives need the thermal rocket

[ornate saffron]

They build into future phase parts. Like ballistic warp drives

[west jackal]

yes. but i dont like automating them to prepare for future, i automate the parts, then when i have enough i tear down that factory to build better factories (although this is a controversial opinion) to be clear, this is not an official suggestion just sharing my experience

[true mulch]

the space elevator page lists how many of each part you need

[west jackal]

with bps, small factories like modular engines can be made in like 20 minutes if you have resources nearby

[true mulch]

per phase and considering ingredients for other parts

[knotty bear]

Can a blueprint connect power outlets from one to another automatically? Making my railway blueprint and it would be useful to have the ability to yoink power off.

[mystic island]

Guys what do we call those orange shrimp aliens?

[worn oar]

Friends

[wise junco]

Fackory

[fiery root]

What about the trees? The tree animals

[summer smelt]

Monkey?

[mystic island]

Big ass olives

[fiery root]

No no very long legs. Like the one in season one ninjago

Whwn zane got his chadacter arc

[worn oar]

Big ass-olives

[fiery root]

Do they have a real name tho?

[worn oar]

Fart flowers

[next ivy]

what, the beans ?

[fiery root]

I cant ask them nicely to give me materials fron them for analyzing

[next ivy]

land whales ?

[fiery root]

Bean sounds fun
They are fairly non hostile

[mystic island]

They trample over my machinery. How can you forgive that?

[next ivy]

Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing

[fiery root]

I never said i was fairly non hostile

[worn oar]

Maybe if you weren't destroying their natural habitat they wouldn't have to slightly inconvenience you

[fiery root]

Well somehow we need ti get our ressources? Not our fault we found them on that planet

[wanton sky]

Can u make the zipline toggle?

[wispy sun]

is it worth lighting up my factory for 200 mw consumption from the 600 mw that i produce?

[reef basin]

is it worth to you?

[wispy sun]

i mean i can barely see at night

without the lights

[reef basin]

so, is it worth to you? 🙂

[wispy sun]

idk

[white dawn]

I've honestly just gotten used to having my flashlight on literally all the time

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

any way i could make this less asymmetrical? the splitters and mergers are lined up where theyd be centerline on foundations, but the smelters wouldnt center, and the belts are too long on one side, the power lines are horrid too but i dont think that can be helped

[reef basin]

it is symmetric by one axis 🙂

[small crypt]

maybe im overthinking it

[elder oracle]

yall should add smth like the awesome sink but for liquids and gas

[reef basin]

why tho?

fluids are never final products, so you don't need to sink them

[normal orbit]

would remove the whole game mechanic of dealing with fluid waste

[elder oracle]

they are byproducts so that would be useful to get rid of them

[reef basin]

in practically all cases, you can recycle the byproducts back into the production

[elder oracle]

Ik that

but also like for overflow stuff

[reef basin]

well, and that is intended gameplay challenge, so adding a sink would be counterproductive

[reef basin]

that's solved by not making it overflow 😛

[elder oracle]

real

[reef basin]

(aka sinking the solids that are made from them)

[elder oracle]

me personally i have way too much overflow in my world

[mystic island]

I am simply being efficient. These aliens are not using the maximum potential of their natural resources.

[crimson dove]

holy, turns out with 7 480 belts of bauxite, with not most efficient recipies on 0.5 recipie cost, you can make 21371 Aluminium ingots per minute

[mystic island]

Ficsit sent me because they lost their chance.

Also whatever ADA wants

[feral vector]

phase 4 is too crazy 😭

[worn oar]

Must nature be tossed aside for progress or is that simply your flimsy justification for what you wanted to do anyway?

[west jackal]

Thats bc you made the game easy ! That slider is supposed to make everything more expensive 😎

[reef basin]

wdym by "overflow"? are you just making more than you need?

[crimson dove]

yeah, but that whould make the factories smaller, and i must EXPAND

[elder oracle]

usually i do 5-10 factories for each thing besides for smelters

yes in some way ig

[reef basin]

yeah, and if you put a sink at the end of each factory, you don't have any overflow 🙂

[mystic island]

Consider it a greater good. Surely the aliens won't mind me taking 30 square kilometers of their huge planet for the benefit of the masses.

The masses being Ficsit and their clients. That info is redacted to me

[elder oracle]

Burh im talking about fluid overflow. Material overflow is easily fixable

[reef basin]

yeah, but you don't have fluid overflow if you don't make excess and sink the final product

[elder oracle]

fair

other people might want smth like this btw

[mystic island]

Btw has anyone figured out the size of the planet we play? Like comparing the known area we play to the wide shot in the 1.0 trailer.

[reef basin]

again, not happening, as it would remove intended game challenge

[reef basin]

!wikisearch world

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=world

[normal orbit]

there is a number on the wiki, but its kinda... wrong

[elder oracle]

ok

I’ll stop pushing it

[reef basin]

(you're in a wrong place if you want to suggest things anyway)

[normal orbit]

theres probably a mod for it if you really want it

[elder oracle]

eh

[small crypt]

should i underclock foundries to 40? i cant work out how to make 45 work with anything

[normal orbit]

but i doubt the devs wanna add something which invalidates a late game mechanic

[bold isle]

thats what i do

[elder oracle]

I don’t mod satisfactory

[meager jacinth]

i just got the refinary, is it better to make plastic, rubber with crude oil or water

[reef basin]

I mean they added canons so who knows

[elder oracle]

new leak just dropped

[bold isle]

theres been canon for a long time

[reef basin]

yeah and it invalidates a game mechanic, and they intentionally added it 🤷

[normal orbit]

hyperloop cannons are a bit diffrent tho imo

[bold isle]

cannons are a different story

[bleak valley]

Cannons aren’t an intended mechanic afaik kind of just a thing that’s lasted

[elder oracle]

conveyer cannons would be silly

[leaden turret]

is amused that greeny is still so salty over hypertube canons

[normal orbit]

they werent intended no, but they were fun, so they stayed

[reef basin]

no, they intentionally re-added it after engine update fixed it

[bleak valley]

It is very fun

[bleak valley]

[elder oracle]

hypertube cannon my beloved

[clear aspen]

man idk what to do next

[austere marlin]

Hey guys, friend of mine joined my save but he can't see any marker i put up, any idea why ?

[leaden turret]

other gamers: "we have fun with hypertube canons"
greeny: 😤
css: accidentally breaks canons with engine update
greeny: 😀
other gamers: 😭
css: whoops, makes them work again
other gamers: 🥳
greeny: 😤

[mystic island]

They aren't but since Josh showed how effective and convenient they are, people would feel upset to see it removed.

[reef basin]

josh wasn't the one who invented nor pioneered them

[mystic island]

Though in my opinion, hypertube cannons are still somewhat silly. It's like portals but much easier and earlier.

[reef basin]

yeah that's my main issue with them. Devs often talked about how every option in the game is viable and you're given tools to do things, and then keep super OP basically-teleportation in the game

[leaden turret]

some gamers: "we'd like green energy please"
css before 1.0: "no free power, kthxbai"
some gamers: 😔
css with 1.0: "have this alien power augmenter, it gives you free power"
some gamers: 😵‍💫

[normal orbit]

i like that cannons have some inehrent risk to em. Always a little amusing when someone comes in here asking why their stuff is gone after lauching themselves into the nth dimension :p

[reef basin]

load autosave

[mystic island]

He sure played a part in popularizing it though. His videos have high views.

[reef basin]

probably, yeah. Though personally I didn't like his SF videos much compared to others

[leaden turret]

canons were popular before josh.

[feral vector]

it's fun though lol. normal tubes are really slow, sitting in a tube unable to do anything while you travel isn't exactly fun

[ripe rock]

Hey I’m new and I’m at the coal power stage and I didn’t understand pure mines until recently. Should I

1 . Make a new save in a different biome with a good location

2. Delete everything and transport it all (idk how)

[elder oracle]

I have a picture of my suggestions (for some reason it wouldn’t let me post it)

[feral vector]

I guess with a normal tube you need to build it the length of where you want to travel, the cannons kinda skip that part

[reef basin]

"it is fun" is hardly a viable argument for adding OP things to the game 🤷

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media if it's not a screenshot for #screenshots

[normal orbit]

1: no, 2: no

[clear aspen]

man idk what factory i wanna do next

[normal orbit]

just expand

[feral vector]

it's an arguement for not removing it. the movement in warframe came from a glitch that was pretty OP compared to normal movement

[elder oracle]

check #off-topic-media

[reef basin]

and many of the arguments devs provided for things like "why jetpack cannot be continuous" had arguments that should also count against canons

[ripe rock]

But the grass fields is so ahh

[reef basin]

I'd rather have balanced game than game filled with fun stuff

[elder oracle]

answer to that was the hover pack

[normal orbit]

expand into another biome :p

[feral vector]

??????

[reef basin]

that's limited to power range

[ripe rock]

For resources is it not

[ripe rock]

Fair

[mystic island]

Games are supposed to be fun. Warframe at least consolidated that feature with new animations and proper implementation.

[feral vector]

what are you talking about lol. by the time you need more resources you can set up trains. I cleared phase 3 with only one train to bring plastic and rubber back. there are so many resources in that area

[reef basin]

you can very much make a game fun without adding OP things 🤷

[feral vector]

you can also make a game less fun by removing OP things

[reef basin]

and more balanced

[mystic island]

But cannons still look glitchy as hell and trivialize other stuff.

[feral vector]

shockingly, lots of people prefer fun over balance, especially in single player games 😛

[mystic island]

If cannons are here to stay, at least make them a proper addition instead of a game engine trick.

[reef basin]

shockingly, lots of people prefer balance in factory games

[clear aspen]

im thinking of doing FMF but idk what biome

[feral vector]

idk I'm new so maybe I'm missing something but it doesn't seem like cannons break the balance of the game in any meaningful way. the automation stuff is still balanced fine? I guess you could manually move resources long distances with cannons instead of trains or something?

[reef basin]

exploration and player/item logistics is big part of the game, and trivialised by canons (and by depots, but that's other story)

[normal orbit]

cannons dont really help with exploring, since you just fly over everything. but yea, they help with going between a and b. tho with depots, i find i dont do that nearly as much anymore

[feral vector]

you still have to figure out item logistics which is the more important thing in a factory game, no? and flying over stuff at the speed of sound is hardly exploring lol hmm

[reef basin]

want to get some collectibles from other side of map? point a BPed canon that way

[reef basin]

item logistics is trivialised by depots 🤷 but again, that's a different story

[feral vector]

that sounds like something an experienced player would do for fun though, I'm aware of cannons but I don't see a point launching myself that far when there are hard drives and sloops and stuff on the way

[normal orbit]

building material logistics, not items logistics as a whole

[feral vector]

having to run back to base to get materials is not a good kind of friction, it's just tedious

[reef basin]

well yeah but item logistics are trivialised by "build near nodes" (mostly)

[reef basin]

on the other hand, making a system that doesn't require you to do that is a fun and neat challenge

[clear aspen]

man what biome should i build my FMF factory

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[normal orbit]

depots imo fixed the biggest issue with the game.

[reef basin]

issue being "players do not want to build logistics"?

[mystic island]

Build a huge central factory. Ship all the resources there.

[feral vector]

for you maybe? I'm curious how a poll would go lol

[reef basin]

I mean yeah, at the start of this convo I said that I don't like it for reasons

[mystic island]

But the path of least resistance is making satellite factories.

[white dawn]

The problem the game wants you to solve in that case is "what can I build so that I don't have to do that." :)

[feral vector]

logistics to bring building materials with you everywhere? people did storage hubs before depots, you still had to run there to get more X if you ran out while building stuff

[normal orbit]

you still build logistics, just not having to spend hours setting up depots and trains to ferry resources to you. can just focus on the building and the logistics between factories

[feral vector]

explain how you can build something to prevent this

[normal orbit]

it would be like 99% in favor of depots :p

[reef basin]

I'm aware that they tried to open the game to more casual players with 1.0, but that's just not what I like about the game, I much more liked the previous direction SF went in

[white dawn]

(don't get me wrong, I actually do like the Depots. But they did mostly obsolete a whole suite of creative solutions to that problem)

[reef basin]

yeah, that was solved by logistic train that you could just bring with you (and it will refill when asked)

[feral vector]

yeah probably lol

[white dawn]

Automated or on-demand resource delivery. Easiest with drones, pretty trivial with trains, and possible but admittedly cumbersome with vehicles

[wise junco]

The couple times I started over, I felt naked without depots. I rush them every time

[feral vector]

so everywhere you want to build, you need a train bringing you some of all the basic building materials? that sounds horrible lol

[white dawn]

Building out your factory-build-support infrastructure used to be a fun challenge, but nowadays it's just "build some Depots"

[reef basin]

well, given that you wanted to transport everything to central storage, building a rail from storage to place where you were building was first step

[feral vector]

I think requiring logistics for production is the good kind of friction and requiring logistics for your inventory is the bad kind of friction

[white dawn]

Everywhere I build I'm pulling rail behind me anyway, so sure, why not?

[normal orbit]

either that, or you keep going back and forth to a centralized warehouse to pick up items. and if you were building big, you ended up doing it a lot

[white dawn]

If nothing else, I want a passenger station at my factories

[mystic island]

Dimensional depots are life savers yeah. I am making steel now and still didn't unlock them.

[normal orbit]

it wasnt fun for most of us

[mystic island]

I should probably fix that...

[tame bobcat]

any alts worth picking up for doing aluminium?

[feral vector]

yeah exactly. bad kind of friction. no one likes traveling back and forth for inventory bs in games

[reef basin]

yeah, that's why you build the train 🙂

[reef basin]

depends on your preferences tbh

[feral vector]

train for the production side of things is plenty, don't want to build a train to bring me a dozen little building materials

[reef basin]

well, you're building the rail anyway to bring resources from factory to storage

so you just build it before factory instead of after the factory, and bring the train with you

[normal orbit]

sloppy, electrode scrap, instant scrap and pure aluminium ingots are are good and useful

[small crypt]

ima just do giant belt highway

[feral vector]

idk that's just a lame problem to have IMO lol

[normal orbit]

hope you got a good cpu :p

[reef basin]

it was a fun challenge to solve 🤷 rather than "just place a depot which costs nothing"

[feral vector]

I just think you're in the minority who thinks that's a fun challenge 😛

[reef basin]

I don't deny that, I already said it

[feral vector]

not like I'm claiming that I'm objectively correct or anything

[white dawn]

Eh, the friction's only there because you're thinking of it as an annoyance instead of a problem to solve

[normal orbit]

it wasnt particularly fun when you wanted to build with blueprints

[white dawn]

You don't get annoyed when you need to make HMFs, 'cause you get to make some HMFs.

[normal orbit]

specially building the actual train highway to the place for next factory

[white dawn]

And if you shift your mindset about the "needing build material" problem, it was just "Oh, another problem that needs a solution."

And there were plenty of solutions available; it was great!

[feral vector]

it's an annoying problem to solve to me though

[white dawn]

Drone malls were always my favorite; the system is like custom-engineered to support it

But folks had some lovely solutions for trains and even vehicles

And there was always "build yourself a basic-parts factory" onsite. There's nearly always spare iron+limestone, and copper if you're lucky. Especially once we got blueprints, spinning up some basic parts for build purposes right onsite, at a temporary spot, was quite viable

[normal orbit]

if didnt have my depots going, my inventory could only hold enough materials for 3 sections of my train highway :p

[cedar rock]

Can i somehow apply chrome finish to every machine

[white dawn]

As I say: I'm actually quite fond of Depots regardless. My only real point was that pre-1.0 complaints about needing to go back-and-forth to pick up material was merely a failure to recognize that solutions to that problem could be devised. :)

Well and also that I think it's a shame that Drone Malls are largely a relic of history now :(

[feral vector]

inventory bullshit problems are irritating, production chain problems are fun IMO

[normal orbit]

i enjoy building, i dont enjoy not being able to build :p

[next ivy]

scim might be able to paint all buildings

[white dawn]

Except that the solutions to that problem are production chains (and logistics, which support production chains)

If lack of infrastructure is impacting your ability to build, then your next project could be building that infrastructure

It's functionally indistinct from building a factory, except that it allows you to construct all your future factories with ease

[cedar rock]

i have to try

[normal orbit]

the main issue with that tho is you can't really do that when building the actual train lines to the destination. Its fine to have a train deliver materials once you there, but are you gonna setup a recieving depot every 500 meters as you build the trainline?

[white dawn]

No, I'd have a dedicated set of resource-delivery trains which are idle when I'm not actively building a factory. When I'm at a new factory site, the first thing I construct is the logistics ingress (this is something I still do anyway, and did prior to having these revelations too), so the first station(s) are the intake ports for the material

Set up the routes, and blammo: a steady supply of building material from the source(s)

[normal orbit]

my point is the setup of the routes tho

[white dawn]

I mean that's literally just interacting with the station and clicking some dropdowns

[normal orbit]

no its building the tracks

[white dawn]

When I'm at a new factory site, the first thing I construct is the logistics ingress

[normal orbit]

they dont just magically appear

[white dawn]

I agree: if you're not already building rail to your new factory, then that's an extra step

But I'm building rail anyway, so the addition is trivial. And then I have a fully-automated Pioneer transit system ready-to-go as well

[feral vector]

the whole point is that requiring all this extra stuff just so you can have building materials is lame

[white dawn]

I'd argue that it's no different than requiring all this extra stuff just to have some HMFs.

[leaden turret]

reminder that I stopped using trains because by the time I was ready to build them all the placeholder foundations had extensive "temporary" conveyor belts running underneath them

[white dawn]

You're building systems. I'm playing a factory-building game to build lively fancy factories with vehicles + trains + drones whizzing about and automating solutions to problems that didn't already have solutions

[feral vector]

one is fixing a QoL issue, one has an automated item as a reward

obviously I'd rather spend time building a factory that gives me stuff I need than spend time building logistics to prevent running back and forth to base?

[white dawn]

If you don't think that solving the problem of resource delivery to a build site is a reward unto itself, then you and I are operating from very different base assumptions. :)

Anyway, it's a bit academic at this point, since we've got Depots anyway

Though I'm curious: do you also bemoan the time+effort it takes to upgrade + build out your Depots?

[feral vector]

people like being rewarded for their actions 😛

[white dawn]

It's the same thing, in the end.

[ornate saffron]

I just see the pioneer as another facility that needs supplies.

You fill that need with dimensional depots.

I have no phase 4 parts going but I have every part ill need feeding depots

[white dawn]

Again: how is it not rewarding to solve a problem like that, and reap the benefits of your solution?

[feral vector]

nah, fun kind of friction. effort gives tangible returns

[feral vector]

because I don't get anything tangible

[wise junco]

The factory getting built is tangible

[white dawn]

Like ever since I had that epiphane (aided by other folks on this server, of course! I used to be of the "man, I hate going back-and-forth" crowd) it was awesome.

[feral vector]

why do you think all games have progression systems and levels and achievements and shit? people like rewards

[white dawn]

It was a super enjoyable part of any playthrough. Coming up with a creative solution to a problem that I hadn't even thought to try and fix myself

[normal orbit]

it is rewarding, but the problem isnt fixed. cause once you routed to one location, built there and wanna go to next, you're back to square one with no resources to build and you need to keep running back and forth to build the tracks again to another place. you dont solve the problem, you just push it ahead.

[white dawn]

I mean, again, if you don't consider it a reward to gain freedom you get from solving that kind of problem, and the relief you'd achieve from no longer having to do a cumbersome task, then I dunno what to say

[feral vector]

but you're not building a factory you're just solving an annoying qol issue, building the factory would be the HMF reward part and not the "i don't have to run back to base" part

[feral vector]

cumbersome tasks are not the reason I play games, rather them not be there in the first place

[white dawn]

Yes, I've already acknowledged that while in Phase 3, if you're not already just building rail automatically to any new factory, then the train-delivery solution is extra work. To that I shrug; I don't quite "get" why you wouldn't be building rail anyway. :)

Though that argument doesn't have legs once you get to Phase 4 and have drones. No excuse at all for not having drone malls, pre-1.0. :D

[rich parrot]

I just used to load a megatrain of 15 cars and bring all the stuff to location with that in one trip.

[feral vector]

I'm new and overwhelmed lol it's hard enough doing new stuff without building rails everywhere I go 😛

[normal orbit]

i think you're missing the point i'm making. i am building the rail, its just annoying to do without depots since you can't really make deliveries to you as you build it

[wise junco]

Annoying is subjective. I enjoyed running back and forth on my first playthrough to gather building supplies

To each their own

[white dawn]

I would once again just imply that this entire game is a series of cumbersome tasks to overcome. A successfully-completed runthrough of Satisfactory results in a gamestate where you are literally doing nothing yourself -- everything is automated! Anything which furthers that goal is part of the base gameplay

[normal orbit]

you're not permanently solving the issue with that setup in the same way depots solve it

[feral vector]

yeah all of this is just my subjective opinion. I'd argue that more people agree with me than not though, hence the devs adding depots and leaving in cannons

[feral vector]

yep, tedious busywork every new place

[white dawn]

Okay, sure, while building rail you do need to make sure you've got sufficient steel beams+pipes, I get that.

Anyway, I'm bored and we're all talking in circles now, so I'll disengage. :D

[wise junco]

This is probably the weirdest thing I've seen the server get mad over tbh

[white dawn]

Heh, I don't think anyone's mad about it (I know I'm not)

[feral vector]

if depots weren't in the game I'd probably just get an inventory mod 😅

[wise junco]

I sense tension but could just be me

[white dawn]

I've just got thoughts, as my co-debators do. 🍻

[feral vector]

I'm not mad lol arguing is fun

difference of opinion is not an issue at all

[white dawn]

Apologies to anyone if I was giving off the impression of anger or whatever

[feral vector]

nah you weren't, you're just defending your position

I hope I don't sound salty either 😛

[white dawn]

All good from my front, at least. But we should all probably move on regardless!

I mean it's a ridiculous conversation anyway 'cause we've got Depots so whatever. :P

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message i like making train tracks, specially some more elaborate designs. doing those without depots would prob make me slit my wrists

[ornate saffron]

you can always turn of build requirements, Its a toggle in AGS

[normal orbit]

wasnt an option before 1.0 :p

[feral vector]

my opinion is real biased anyway lol, I'm a newb so I'm already having enough trouble with logistics, adding more just to have building materials sounds rough. but experienced players might enjoy more stuff to solve

[feral vector]

I think depots are a great solution

[normal orbit]

they are, like i said, i think they solved the biggest issue with the game

[ornate saffron]

Honestly i just looks at the pioneer as another facility to supply.

I build factories every save for this purpose, then I dont need to worry about it.

even a smaal quanitity like 2 turbo motors/min is enough if you fill a Industrial storage unit that feeds a Depot

[feral vector]

yeah I've automated one machine worth of everything so far and it works great. I only need to bring supplies with me if I'm building out something large, and then I just add them to the to do list and make sure I bring everything

tier 7 and 8 stuff is giving me a bit of a headache though lol, not sure if I should automate all this stuff right away or wait until it's used in a production chain and just siphon off some extra from there

[old grail]

biggest concern for me is always concrete heh, then stuff like plastic to change the material when decorating

[feral vector]

yeah whatever my belt material is, and concrete, both get extras. i have 4 large storage containers of encased beams and concrete right now lol went a bit overboard

for most of the early/midgame I just had two impure limestone nodes pumping out concrete constantly and that worked fine

[old grail]

i just got one, because until i actually build something i dilly dally around and decostructing foundations, so thats also some material when depot is filling heh

[normal orbit]

i usually take a pure node, turn it into concrete with wet recipe then split it off into ten industrial storages each with a depot ontop :p

[old grail]

wet concrete is a nice recipe

[feral vector]

I'm not sure I even have ten depots yet lol