satisfactory

[opaque minnow]

Manifold

[autumn steeple]

not what i ment hehe
no the bolted iron plates for example take like, 4x the screws and 3x the iron plates for 3x the output

thats just completely worthless no-

[fringe shadow]

omg im stupid ye

[humble osprey]

like THE pioneers 3d model

[autumn steeple]

when you found what now

[cobalt pagoda]

can someone help me if is a bug i can.t click and itemes can go into train storage

[neat plank]

How to make it so I can build concrete foundations automatically. Without having to paint them.

[reef basin]

yeah, those are still good for things like slooping or space optimisation

[autumn steeple]

cuz it can help with ratios or?

[reef basin]

one machine makes more
so is good if you only want one machine, or want to sloop it for maximum gain, or whatever

[autumn steeple]

i gues slooping maybe but thats so nieche, especially for a material like that? .w.

[autumn steeple]

i mean i guess

[reef basin]

fitting things into a blueprint f.e.

[autumn steeple]

i can see that sure

[reef basin]

or just generally wanting less machines

[cobalt pagoda]

storage from train work ?

[reef basin]

not sure what you're asking?

[wild hollow]

The ratio is 5 : 3 so just split initial belt into 8 and then combine 5 of them and then 3 of them together.

[cobalt pagoda]

items from belt don.t go into the storage

[autumn steeple]

it needs to be powered

[cobalt pagoda]

into freght platform

[fringe shadow]

all good ty, i just forgot about manifold 😄

[autumn steeple]

freight platform needs to be connected to a powered train station :p

[wild hollow]

Oh sorry I went and did math so I didn't see rest of convo haha. But load balancing has its advantages.

[split flower]

Does anyone know if there's any consistency in experimental being released and the actual release?
Like based on when 1.2 Experimental launched, is there a vague estimate on when we thing 1.2 might drop for realsies?

[fringe shadow]

the only advantage is that nothing has to fill up first right?

[fringe shadow]

sorry for that 😄

[cobalt pagoda]

yours work fine ?

[split flower]

That's at least the only advantage I can think of

[autumn steeple]

yes..?

[elfin smelt]

there are others, specially for bio fuel generators and nuclear rods

[autumn steeple]

might look cleaner/cooler at times lmao

[cobalt pagoda]

have power connected

[elfin smelt]

you want to keep them balanced to avoid one of them shutting down

[autumn steeple]

what

[cobalt pagoda]

the train

[autumn steeple]

i cant tell if youre asking a question or not </3

[split flower]

I feel like Manifolds generally look cleaner imo, but a well made load balancer can be very satisfactory

[wild hollow]

Yes, nothing needs to fill up or jam, the machines get exactly what they need when they need it.

Manifolds can take hours to fill up in later systems, and it's hard to know if a manifold has truly worked until you know if they're starving or not. Load balancing gives instant feedback.

[autumn steeple]

my favourite look for balanced things is when i have 4 splitters ontop of each other go to three manufactorers lol
simple yes, pretty too

[wild hollow]

I'm just doing manifolds because it's more compact for my blueprints.

[autumn steeple]

manifolds also feel scary when done with fluids imo
but thats maybe also cuz half the time they just dont work lmao

[wild hollow]

At least fluids can flow both ways, so you can load them in from both sides to fill up the manifold system faster.

[autumn steeple]

:p

[reef basin]

manifolds are the only thing you can do with fluids

you cannot really balance them

[wild hollow]

Wdym? You can split one pipe into two or even three parts very easily with junctions.

[split flower]

Yes, but for the most part Fluid just kinda does what it wants to within the framework it finds itself in

[reef basin]

that isn't "balanced" though, as there's no guarantee the flow will be equal on both sides

[autumn steeple]

fair

[autumn steeple]

i did not know that lmao </3

[wild hollow]

I guess

[weak bloom]

Fluids are (mostly) accurately modeled as fluids, it's not just a conveyor but in a pipe

[reef basin]

fluids can flow in both directions, so you can very well get fluid flowing backwards which breaks the "balance" (if there even was one in the first place)

[wild hollow]

But it's still kind of balancing the pipes if you use junctions.

[autumn steeple]

not really if the content doesnt care

[weak bloom]

No it's not, the entire point of balancing is that the amounts are evenly split, that doesn't happen with pipes

[reef basin]

yeah but such system will more likely break than classic manifolds (or even verticall manifolds)

[autumn steeple]

vertical manifolds?

[reef basin]

vertical manifold loops

[autumn steeple]

well i guess its self-explanatory

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1488410915371225188/1488735674763968614/image.png?ex=69d1d124&is=69d07fa4&hm=8708b12ab2c24fb7086cba1d66290d4ec95b58e2e677f214d154b60e40854b23&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1234&height=962

[autumn steeple]

all hail image.png

[autumn steeple]

oh i kinda did that for my second coal plant

just more complex <3

[autumn steeple]

though also, why cant you just have one pipe with junctions here?

[wispy sun]

if i put a conveyor splitter on a conveyor lift, will i need to put a conveyor belt from the lift to the splitter?

in that tight space

[timber willow]

probably to help with fluid pressure in that image @autumn steeple

[reef basin]

helps deal with sloshing

[autumn steeple]

isnt that only important for fluids travelling up?

[reef basin]

and you can have just one pipe. But often requires more care to get working, and sometimes is not even possible, so this is generally setup that I recommend for fluid manifolds, it naturally removes most issues people may run into

[autumn steeple]

also, hows this a problem in general? :p
i mean its a bit annoying when i see inputs vary but.. is it that big of a deal?

[timber willow]

in a lot of cases but even same plane like what that image could do does can have slooshing and pressures issues depending on the setup connected to the intake part of it

[tawdry charm]

Guys, any way to speed up hard drive scaning? I have to scan 6 drives for an alt recepie and i have nothing else to do

[unkempt blade]

Maybe we've been thinking about fluids all wrong. What if we increased sloshing until it's vibrating so fast it always appears to have the right amount?

[elfin smelt]

it wont just vary, it will reduce the (average) flow and possibly underfeeding the machines

[autumn steeple]

wont it eventually "come back" though?
like, sure it may be less than intended for moment but wont it be more than intended shortly after?
:p

though yes if the margins are low then that can def stop the machine for a second i can see that

[reef basin]

when fluids reach end of pipe (e.g. full machine), they slosh back. This is called "backflow" and counts towards max pipe flow (e.g. if you have 550 flowing in one direction and 50 in other direction, you have 600 flow in total (maxed mk2 pipe), but only 500 fluid on average goes one way out of 600)

the loop makes sure that if fluid sloshes, flow can go the other way and not be reduced. Also verticality helps with keeping machines full due to gravity

[autumn steeple]

i see

[reef basin]

yeah, but if you rely on full pipe, and it stops for a while, you're no longer producing fully.

[autumn steeple]

i suppose so!

[reef basin]

scan as you find them, while searching for others

[tawdry charm]

too late for this :(

[compact flicker]

So what do y'all do when a project that takes up like 1/16th of the map has incorrect math and you don't realize till after it's fully built

[reef basin]

then yeah, you have to wait

(or rather, do something else while it's scanning)

[unkempt blade]

let it run imperfectly and go do something else

[compact flicker]

It's my power refinery and generator array 😭

[timber willow]

yeah fluids can be the biggest bane of this game (water mainly since you can potentially need a lot depending on setups) but once you figure out simple tricks like this its isn't hard to keep pipe intake machines like refineries or coal generators for example always full

[unkempt blade]

ok then it's add power storage then do what I said

[compact flicker]

Power storage is done, I suppose I can just rebuild the whole thing when I get rocket fuel

[unkempt blade]

if you're using priority power switches you can probably just ignore it and take whatever fraction of it works 😄

[compact flicker]

7,600 full batteries should last me till phase 4 :p

[autumn steeple]

isnt the point of these to automatically turn off btw?
they just do nothing for me </3

i have like 20 seperate factories in different categories and it just doesnt do anything lmao

[compact flicker]

If you're not on the edge of blowing fuses they're redundant

[deft sluice]

priority switches keep core parts of your factory on whenever you overload your grid

if your grid is stable they do nothing

[autumn steeple]

well yeah but they still didnt do anything lmao
im fine now that i got my nuclear power working but i was really low on power constantly while i was doing that cuz i only started working on nuclear when i noticed i needed more power

[unkempt blade]

if you have stable amounts of power production/consumption they'll basically do nothing. If production dips or consumption spikes then they'll turn off a chunk of your factory to prevent it from taking down everything and needing to be reset manually

[autumn steeple]

but they didnt turn it off automatically smh

im 99% sure-

[deft sluice]

switches dont turn stuff off, they keep stuff on

[autumn steeple]

oh well i just ended up using them as a normal power switch

[deft sluice]

i guess its semantics really

[keen flame]

@jagged nymph thanks!!

just bought my own copy!

hehe

click on my profile

[autumn steeple]

i do wish tools were paintable lmao

WAIT THEY ARE

oh my

[cold berry]

Now that I know you can play this game like ttd, honestly I'm going to optimize my next run and my upcoming factories from the beginning with train output in mind

And have a train output/DD buffer for every craftable, and DD's for things like ammo

Just make my own OpenTTD map where I gotta move the resources around

[timber willow]

that moment when you find out character customization is a thing lol

[autumn steeple]

i mean i knew it was a thing from the start but then never touched it

[timber willow]

well once 1.2 launches there will be a few more things added to it so keep that in mind

[autumn steeple]

:p

[edgy lion]

whats the deal with bluepring auto connect? i can only auto connect for like two, three meters

[autumn steeple]

you need to click twice.
whenever i do belt busses i first click when the blueprint im building is connected to the one before it, and then you move it to where you want the new one to be and itll be connected

-# godawful explanation

[timber willow]

@autumn steeple not as bad of a explanation as you would think that is basically what the feature is

[bleak mica]

damn wtf is up with trucks and multiple truck stations

[autumn steeple]

i have not once in my life touched trucks

[bleak mica]

2 stations near each other one for load another for unload

the truck loads on one and immediately unloads into another

and then leaves completely empty

[timber willow]

yeah trucks are very temperamental lol

[autumn steeple]

lmao

might be easier than trains to do tho

[edgy lion]

oh my fucking lord XD

[autumn steeple]

lmao

[timber willow]

to be fair rather do trains til the pathing update that is coming

[bleak mica]

so how do ppl use trucks for both import and export

[autumn steeple]

they probably just use trains <3

[bleak mica]

im not there yet

[timber willow]

by the sound of it you need to separate them if say you have two snapped together

[autumn steeple]

idk why youd really need them before that honestly-
-# yes im not being helpful im sorry .w.

[bleak mica]

yeah that's what I did

[autumn steeple]

though i am curious
what do you guys use trucks for-

[unkempt blade]

the same thing I'd use any reasonably long conveyor for

they just look a lot cooler

[autumn steeple]

idk i never built/needed any long belt lines across factories lmao

[timber willow]

then your drive pathing is the issue until we get the new pathing changes if you drive by both of them they can add to the mapping of the route so if they are seperate then gotta adjust the pathing at one or more points best way is to have the show pathing visual and edit the holgrams that show up

[unkempt blade]

not sure how far you are into the game but sometimes around T5ish it's going to "encourage" you to expand for a few different reasons and you'll use at least some longer range logistics when it does

[timber willow]

yeah once oil and stuff gets added you defiantly wanna have certain things as it were

[autumn steeple]

im close to phase 5 lmao

im done with T8

[unkempt blade]

maybe we just have different definitions of a long conveyor then

[autumn steeple]

anyway, isnt T5 where you get trains?
this is what i mean by "why use trucks"
you dont really need long distance stuff before that i believe-

i only really started using trains when i need aluminium everywhere

[unkempt blade]

trains need most infrastructure setup than trucks do, there's not really a single best vehicle (except for factory carts)

[cold berry]

I'm going to be using the trucks for transporting goods to a larger train depot for each cluster of factories going forward and in my next run I think. Then when I get drones, I'll just mix them in to everything. I just like the look of using all the vehicle types. There will be a second train station that delivers fuel to the trucks

[autumn steeple]

meh i suppose :p
still never really needed stuff long distance before i got trains lol
though i didnt do any like, output maximizing stuff either

[unkempt blade]

and for vehicles you really have to think about power cost (there's a resource cost to create power) + fuel cost as the total operating cost

[bleak mica]

i seriously cant understand how far between the stops have to be

I just observed my autopilot do this again

[timber willow]

i mean depends on your setup some people dont have every factory close to each other some once you get bps alot of players make roads and use trucks and or other vehicles to move stuff since belts can add to the object limit which if you het that limit your game can start to struggle on loading and saving

[autumn steeple]

yeah dont you need a fueling station too-
jesus

[unkempt blade]

trucks and tractors do, carts do not

[autumn steeple]

true, im sure the desert start requires some trucks

[timber willow]

fueling station is part of the truck station

[unkempt blade]

the fueling station can be the same as the logistics one but you do have to bring the station fuel somehow

[autumn steeple]

yeah exactly

[bleak mica]

I'll just unpower everything I don't need right now i guess but this sucks

[autumn steeple]

thats such wasted effort lmfao

[steep trench]

fueling station can be just attaching a coal conveyor

[unkempt blade]

you're playing a sandbox game, it's just about what's fun for the player

[autumn steeple]

also true

[plucky bone]

I put my biofuel into my home station and just kept cutting trees and leaves. Mycelia is good for biofuel too.

[unkempt blade]

vehicles are almost always more effort than conveyors would be for me but they make the factory feel a lot more interesting and alive so I use lots of them as soon as I'm not strapped for power/fuel costs

[autumn steeple]

true!

[steep trench]

Me too. Lots of conveyors? Ugly. Lots of vehicles? Awesome

[timber willow]

yeah i have had the issue that it sounds like your having at least to a degree and yeah spacing wise if your using the truck then might need to switch to say a tractor depending on what its transporting overall since spacing wise is like two spaces of what your loading if they were parked next to each other so if one station is grabbing the load in the way your not wanting then the pathing is just to close to that station of the other

[unborn moss]

With 1.2 and being able to add the vehicle paths into blueprints, vehicles are a lot easier, but also pretty similar to trains. Just slower and need to be fueled.

[winged root]

17 assemblers to max out 600 bauxite for alumina production, I fear tier 9

[timber willow]

true but way less headache for a lot of people since the record an auto path is buggy a lot of the time

[timber willow]

as long as you make your stuff efficient as you progress tier 9 isn't the worst just is defiantly a overall challenge since you have everything unlocked at that point for the most part

[weak mesa]

It's not that bad

[winged root]

I have made a theoretical design for 1200 with 37 smelters and 1 constructor for casings but I think that’s excessive

[unborn moss]

yea, no more auto path recording in 1.2.

[wanton hare]

Hey, can anyojne answer my question: I want to start a new save, what is worth focusing on? Alot of Fossil, Advanced resources or what? Is there a list of good seeds? 🙂

[weak mesa]

I don't know if there's one yet

[timber willow]

yeah looking forward to that since the drive the path is not a great system

[weak mesa]

But I'd say pick advanced resources if you want to do big things in the endgame

[weak mesa]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/0ViNM4WAMF

[deft sluice]

my seed has uranium, 4x SAM nodes and almost no good copper in the grass hills if you want the seed 🙂

[timber willow]

depends more so what you wanna do you on certain parts i mean if i do a new save for 1.2 all pure nodes and a slight bump in costs of production and elevator

[wanton hare]

thanks!

i mean i dont kjnow if i need so much oil to be honest

or what is the best thing i late

[timber willow]

depends you wanna do nuclear or fuel generators for your power

[wanton hare]

Hm

Fuel?

[timber willow]

i mean if you do with enough you can avoid nuclear all together but depending how much you build your in the ballpark of hundreds of fuel gens which is very doable once you get mk 3 bp designer i have a world that has a bp with 4 generators in it but if you wanna do fuel if you did just pure nodes and say use the west coast in normal setting there is alot of oil over there or can be so all puree you would have way more then enough just have to be mindful as you progress to add more to you fuel system as you play

[wanton hare]

okay

thank you

[unkempt blade]

nuclear is a really fun project even if you don't need the power

[wanton hare]

But i assume you dont need 5k Uranium or? I have that on my map

[tawdry charm]

Guys, i scanned like 30 hard drives and havent gotten packaged diluted fuel alt, any ideas why? (Oil is unlcoked, packaging is too)

[unkempt blade]

yeah that would be quite a bit of power if you managed to use it all 😆

normal map is only like 2k or so

[wanton hare]

Perfect

[timber willow]

it can be but defiantly got to be ready for the ap math you may need to do for all the stuff the world i have has both fuel and nuclear and as I'm rebuilding designs for efficiency

[wanton hare]

thank you 🙂

[velvet rivet]

Hello !

[timber willow]

best way to do a search is if you dont find what your wanting leave it in the library since the next one you scan wont give you whats visually there

[stoic nebula]

is it possible to have every alt recipe?

[ornate saffron]

yes

[tawdry charm]

Should i try rescanning them?

[timber willow]

as long as you can but leave any recipe your not looking for in the library and it pulls it out of the potential list you have

[tawdry charm]

yeah, i have like 11 drives scanned in my library

[timber willow]

yeah any visual in there wont show up again in a scan

yeah since there is alot of alt receipes in the game in the overall

looks like counting the research in the mam and all sources (hard drives included) like 113 overall in the game with every avenue unlocked

but over 100 + are from hard drives

right

yeah one thing why it may say counting mam since you have to sac a hard drive for a couple of the research

lol yeah watch devs are like surprise more slots lol

[ornate saffron]

w3x3 for you

[timber willow]

for the record Turbo fuel, Rocket fuel, compacted coal, and ionized fuel all take a hard drive to research (had to look at the wiki to be for sure)

[floral sparrow]

Yeah, it'd be nice if all inventories/storages had a perfectly rectangular set of item boxes

[ornate saffron]

ive been here for 7 months lol

im aware

[plucky bone]

Oops. Did some math wrong. Thought I was making 900 aluminum ingots/min but only am making 600. Time to redo my processing plant. Since I got the math wrong my sheet and casing plant is way off too.

[winged root]

Anyone else annoyed that conveyor wall mounts don’t work on cliffs (would be sick if I could path it along a natural wall formation)

[timber willow]

would definatly and to befair if you do it right you can kinda do it i know not the same as what you think but sink a foundation enough into the nature you can kinda have that effect as i said i know not the exact same as what you wanted but...

[ornate saffron]

make a BP of a pillar (just one segment) and a coveyor pole. then save. Plavec it on the cliff nudging into the cliff til the pillar disappears

[timber willow]

or this but yeah you can do it just takes a slight work around

[winged root]

Very well time to edge

[ornate saffron]

Im more about finding ways to make what i want possible rather then hoping for someone to fix it. That being said the QA sit is for bugs and game featrure ideas

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[bold widget]

Have any of you ever had this problem. You make a blue print saved it. & you reload the game and the blue print is gone like it never was there. But when you looks in the files it there, but not showing up in game.

[autumn steeple]

god no

[timber willow]

That sounds like maybe It didn't save the BP directory but you said it on your list hmm

[deft sluice]

Finally i can mve onto phase 3 parts, need to rush some liquid biofuel

[fringe shadow]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=KQdzShAC13ovxQIY1Esi

is that enough or do i need more per minute of smthing?

[ornate saffron]

plenty to reach credits

[tawdry charm]

Yeah man 15th disk, i really need the automated miner... GIVE ME PACKAGED DILUTED FUEL

[ornate saffron]

If you want a nut like Maxeek Says, BWD are worth the most points at like 2.4 mil

[timber willow]

Watch is gonna be like the last disk you scan

[ornate saffron]

always the last..... cause once you find it you stop looking

[timber willow]

Yeah you definitely need those for the nut lol

[fringe shadow]

nah for all phases to complete

[tawdry charm]

I got 18 turbo engines and some fused modular frames from crash sites, 21 coupons in a second

[timber willow]

Not what I meant but yeah not wrong either 😂

[timber willow]

As long as the ones your not wanting are in your library you will find it since you need certain unlocks to get recipes to show up

[tawdry charm]

Yeah, i scaned like 30 disks, sadly i picked half of them, i have 15 in my library

[timber willow]

Yeah well keep going also for ones in your library use the rescan if you can never know you might get it

[floral sparrow]

Should I be manifolding all the way back at the miner ore output stage? Haven't explored vehicles yet so I don't know whether those would be preferable to overflowing long conveyers between miners and factories. Of course I could also build my smelters closer instead

[real salmon]

people manifold anything, it's just whether or not you want to have it as a manifold

[eternal plume]

#screenshots message uhmm

[neat plank]

The desire for oveclocking against the desire slugs look pretty.

Guess that means I need a Doggo farm. Do they still disappear on foundations?

[empty spoke]

if im trying to go for 200 Nuclear plants, should i try going for smth else than uranium fuel rods?

[rough shore]

u should go for water

[valid glacier]

well if you know what to do with uranium waste then no, but if u dont then you might aswell use ficsonium rods becuase they make no waste but they burn faster

[leaden turret]

you can automate power shards now

[empty spoke]

are uranium rods the easiest to do?

just from the crafting perspective

[valid glacier]

well i dont use nuclear power yet so i have no idea

[neat plank]

Still need a few slugs for the MAM 😄

[empty spoke]

its my first time going for nuclear power, so no clue how to handle waste etc yet i just heard you can use it to refuel the plants

[leaden turret]

don't need a doggo farm for that

[valid glacier]

yeah you can but its really complicated

[neat plank]

Instructions unclear. Collected 16 Dogs.

Tbf. I find the slugs to be pretty and like seeing them at night.

[cold berry]

I like them ground down into a powder. The electric lights on the factories I build are their replacement

Death to super slugs

[neat plank]

Ha.

[tawdry charm]

Wrong, you need uranium waste to make plutonium rods, they make plutonium waste and from it you can make ficsonium rods.

[empty bridge]

Hi All. New to the game and have placed my first miner and smelter very close to each other and powered them up. The problem I have is I don't know how to run a conveyer belt between them. Can anyone advise?

[tawdry charm]

Scelect you coveyor belt from the builder menu, then click on the output of the miner, and click into the input of the smelter

[empty bridge]

cheers!!!

[tawny tusk]

turns out

a virtual machine running windows

cant really run games

[ornate saffron]

really depends. But i assume this is your case.

Sorry to hear that

[tawny tusk]

yeah

i thought it would run like a slideshow

but turns out it wont even open

[neat plank]

Any reason you want it to run in a VM?

[tawny tusk]

I dont think u can play satisfactory on mac right

[rough shore]

why virtual machine when machine?

[ornate saffron]

there has been mac users here that have succeeded in doing so.

[tawdry charm]

Steam should make something like proton but for mac

[tawny tusk]

how?

[tawny tusk]

macbook is just bad for gaming in general, no one supports it

[ornate saffron]

That i dont know. But over the last 7 months i have spoken to two of them

[tawdry charm]

True true

[rough shore]

Mac.SF.Compatibilty = true;

[tawny tusk]

.....

maybe i can run factorio

[neat plank]

I'd look at just straight running on Mac first with compatability.

[rough shore]

woaaaah

[tawny tusk]

even shapez was lagging

[tawny tusk]

with what? those wine stuff?

[neat plank]

If your using a VM your probably not using your GPU.

[tawny tusk]

do you know how to run it without a vm

[neat plank]

I'd just slam what I'm trying to do into Reddit tbf.

But I'm a Linux gamer.

[ornate saffron]

Wine is my gut reaction

[tawny tusk]

some guy told me to use heroic launcher

but that didnt work

and i used whiskey and it just didnt open

[ornate saffron]

but i know nothing of mac lol

[tawny tusk]

ill prob do a refund then

[empty spoke]

what tool/website would u use to plan ur nuclear plant? i tried with satisfactorytools, but that wouldnt include the waste

[unkempt blade]

🤣 decided to try anyway after asking people yesterday?

[tawny tusk]

yeah

[tawdry charm]

The dedication i would have to run this game... I would reinstall the whole mac so i could play it

[lost cloak]

is there a way to shut off fuel generators?
One way is with a valve that just starves them of fuel eventally, but in my particular case, there is 1 tank for each fuel generator. So i'd need a valve between each tank and gen (this layout dont make sense in your head, but its a tower and not a slab with generators on it)

I tried with power switches, if you dont connect a generator to nothing, it wont run. But if you connect it to nothing, it starts running. So cutting power dont seem viable
I tried with pumps and shut them off, but unfortunately an unpowered pump still allows fluids though (and it should not imo, this could serve as a way to control flow with power, and its more realistic. most pumps dont allow fluids though when idle)

i cant think of more ways

[ornate saffron]

you gotta math out the waste and tell it how much per minute

[unkempt blade]

guess that's what the refund policy is for!

[tawny tusk]

im pretty sure theres something about boot camp to just make your full mac a windows, but at that point ill just buy a pc

[neat plank]

Wierd question of the day: can you release Doggos into the wild.

[unkempt blade]

flip the switch in the UI when you open one up

[tawny tusk]

yup

[tawdry charm]

I think there are linux distros that are optimized for apple

[unkempt blade]

you'd be doing a "dual boot" without a VM but I actually haven't tried that since they ditched intel chips

[empty spoke]

how tho? satisfactorytools doesnt has a power planner, i can only plan out the rods

[leaden turret]

youtube comments say crossover works for satisfactory, buuuuuut I've no first-hand experience of that

[tawny tusk]

I think ill stick with apple because thats kinda why I bought a macbook in the first place

[ornate saffron]

#math-and-meta

[tawny tusk]

I didn't realize all the gaming cons though

[lost cloak]

https://satisfactoryplanner.net/app try this
i think its a great planner and it has power buildings

[tawny tusk]

It might be a bit too complicated for me, i spent a long time just getting a vm that isnt paid or doesnt work

[tawdry charm]

I RESCANED A DRIVE AND GOT DILUTED PACKAGED FUEL FINALY YEAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[neat plank]

Right enough AFK. Back to building a Factory.

I should really have unlocked blueprints.

[lost cloak]

whats the reason for wanting this over diluted fuel?

[tawdry charm]

doesnt need a blender

[lost cloak]

just to dodge the blender

ahh

[tawdry charm]

also makes more i think

[lost cloak]

it makes same

[unkempt blade]

The packaged one feels a lot "better" with blueprints than it did before them. Makes the loop a lot less tedious at scale

[lost cloak]

i guess blender is higher tier, so that makes sense

you would use diluted fuel though once you get the blender, no?

[tawdry charm]

When do i unlock the blender?

[lost cloak]

t7 i think

[tawdry charm]

yeah i need to complete phase 3

i mean i could rush it but i want to set up fuel

[lost cloak]

ok then i guess packaged diluted fuel makes sense for now, if you absolutely want that high fuel thoughput.

All though i tend to just set up a trash oil factory when i unlock it. Basic plastic, basic rubber, and turn heavy into fuel for power. Sink the overflow, then move on

i dunno its hard to take oil serious at tier 5 for me, you need so much from oil later it makes more sense for me to focus on it later

[tawdry charm]

Im actualy using 840 oil/min, to process it into turbo fuel i need about 250 machines

[lost cloak]

all though if you get catherium close to oil, you can also make computers which is nice

just from catherium and oil

[tawdry charm]

Wait, computers need caterium?

i dont think so

[lost cloak]

no not by default, computers are complex. But you can use some alts to make computers from only catherium + oil which is simple

no need for logistics 😄

[feral vector]

alts existing stresses me out lol

[ornate saffron]

not directly

[tawdry charm]

Yiu can make them from oil only (the electronics)

[lost cloak]

ohh?

[tawdry charm]

wait no

[edgy python]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057 is that meant to be a feature

[feral vector]

I want more power so I was gonna figure out a good setup for diluted packaged fuel but I can unlock normal diluted fuel and then it's a different setup

[rough shore]

u can make caterium circuit boards and caterium computer which only need oil and caterium

[tawdry charm]

you can make circuit boards from oil only, computes need copper or caterium

[feral vector]

and I don't want to look them up but I know there are good aluminum alts too

[tawny tusk]

I just realized how hot my macbook is rn

[lost cloak]

no you cant

you have Catherium computer which use Circuit Board, Quickwire, and Rubber
And Circuit Boards you can make with Plastic and Quickwire

So you boil it down to needing
Quickwire, Plastic, and Rubber

[ornate saffron]

or Quartz

[tawdry charm]

i think its a bug

[rough shore]

electrode circuit boards are oil only

[edgy python]

thought so seems strange to be able to build under water

[ornate saffron]

known bug

[lost cloak]

yea but that one is bad for thoughput, you get little juice for the number of fruit

[rough shore]

yeah but im just saying its possible

[lost cloak]

and you need quickwire anyway for the computer

yeye i know, but since you need the quickie anyway it makes sense to go for that

[tawdry charm]

Good for me, a lot of copper is near me

[edgy python]

never knew abt it cant wait to hide my spaghetti in water

[tawdry charm]

sulfur is farther than copper

[ornate saffron]

this playthrough i cut out oil entirely for my computers

[lost cloak]

you can do copper + oil for computer but its ungodly inefficient. but hey anything to save on logistics 😄

[feral vector]

I think someone said there's a mod that lets you make blueprints out of stuff that's already built, anyone know what that is?

[ornate saffron]

clue

[ornate saffron]

have you asked the modding discord?

[feral vector]

nah, I'll try that if I can't find it, figured someone here might know

just popped into my head right now for some reason

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[feral vector]

making blueprints in the designer is hard for me, I need to build them out where I can test if they work

[ornate saffron]

faith in your skills come with times

[feral vector]

yeah of course I don't feel bad about it or anything 😛

it's just annoying finally getting soemthing to work then having to recreate it in the blueprint designer

I got a real simple aluminum setup working but now I wanna try one with 6 refineries that uses a full 480 belt of bauxite

[strong fiber]

In 1.2 Is there kbm support for console??

i been waiting

I tried once before and it didn’t work

[stoic nebula]

@ornate saffron #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

You at octoberfest girl? Your heart is all over the place

[stoic nebula]

😭😭😭😭

[leaden turret]

that's planned to be, yes

[winged root]

I have built 2k of train line up a mountain (next to the oil fields on the west side of the map all for 170 iron ingots a minute to process bauxite into aluminium sheets), its floating but I’ll worry about the beautification after

[cunning siren]

I may do mah first random node run today 🤔 I'm guessing the area with the highest node count will be ultra ez-mode 😆

[stoic nebula]

my power setup needs help

to say the least

[empty spoke]

if i have base 250GW and add 10 power augmentators to it, could it double my power?

or is there like a cap

[ornate saffron]

What are you using?

[stoic nebula]

a really sketchy oil setup and coal from the start

[cunning siren]

Looking at SCIM's Grassy Fields is pretty dense node wise 🤔

Dune Desert pretty dense but spaced out more

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with lots of photos of your oil setup and any issue spots. And as much details you can think of.

I need to be...... social with family🤢

Stupid easter

But I guarantee someone will Wana help

[stoic nebula]

oki doki.... my setup is... a mess

[cunning siren]

Is random node "ez-mode" vs non-random? It would seem to be IMO

[compact flicker]

Turns on quality graphics, frames get quartered

:p

[cunning siren]

I run on a GTX 1080 so I feel you there, TSR upscaling @ 50% and some lower shadow settings helps a ton

[compact flicker]

console so I don't get all the fancy graphical settings 😭

Game honestly didn't look all that different regardless tho, so performance is fine by me :3

[stoic nebula]

me whos at max settings

[cunning siren]

Yep, it's hard to make this game look "bad" IMO

[autumn steeple]

mfw i turn on lumen

[compact flicker]

I once tried covering the whole plains/forest area in one continuous concrete foundation

I succeeded in this

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[cunning siren]

Yea, lumen is raytraceing? Super greedy setting

[cunning siren]

Game still looks great even if the build is spaghett 🤷

[ornate saffron]

I imagine non random all pure is the easiet

[cunning siren]

Really? I'm guessing there are seeds where everything is in one location vs. the standard layouts

[ornate saffron]

The only bad thing about the Grasslands is that everything is impure. You are close to everything and have a wide open area

[leaden turret]

you're forgetting the giant flying manta that gets in the way

[little harness]

is it good to overclock fuel power generators cause otherways i need 45 of them

[cunning siren]

All pure sure, that fixes some stuff

[ornate saffron]

Thats a positive. I like giving headpats

[stable cloak]

Can the hard drive scan pick up previously collected hard drive signals?
I've found locations that are completely empty where the signal is really strong

[ornate saffron]

Known issue

[stable cloak]

good to know, thought I was going crazy

[cunning siren]

Oh? Sounds like a bug

[stable cloak]

trying to track down 12 signals from a radar tower and I've only been able to mark 3

[compact flicker]

Kinda nitpicky but I wish there was a "fully empty every conveyor, pipe, and non storage structure that exists on the map" button

[elder oracle]

should I add another screw crafting line to my screw factory?

[stable cloak]

I think my turbo motor factory is going to serve as a gas and ionized filter factory as well. Coal, oil, and aluminum all in one place

[compact flicker]

handheld scanner should totally get "infinite" range when inside of the radar towers affected range

Gl finding the drives

[ornate saffron]

Blue crater is the the east the best fuel area for nitro rocket fuel. To the west is more oil. North is coal lake. And bauxite is near too.

Under the arch is a pure sam node.

Not sure what else you could ask for.

[cunning siren]

I build two lines of screws sometimes belt throughput tends to limit stuff to that point sometimes 🤷

[ornate saffron]

I dont think you should have a screw factory.

Better to make screws where they are used

[cunning siren]

Yea, I plan on running a random node run so that probably changes all that

[ornate saffron]

Oh absolutely, but thats my point why all pure non random is easier.

[cunning siren]

OH, the resource wells are not changed 🤔 so nitro and crude wells stick around

[elder oracle]

it’s not really a screw factory, it’s just like the biggest build for my Fused Modular frame factory and im crafting nearly all the materials for Fused frames in blue crater area

including heavy modular frames

[compact flicker]

Can't forget water

[cunning siren]

Yes I can

[compact flicker]

):

ok

[ornate saffron]

I think tou can change wells on scim now (I haven't tried) id turn water into nitrogen myself

[cunning siren]

Another option is to use a cast screws recipe and merge the builds into one modular section, like this #screenshots message

[compact flicker]

My current power storage can supply my entire grid for 21~ hrs

Should be enough time to rebuild my power plant

[odd vessel]

7.5 turbofuel per minute per fuel powered generator right?

[cunning siren]

Powerstorage in this game is often overlooked, pretty damn handy IMO

[next ivy]

its an early game bandaid

and continues to be one throughout the rest of the game

taking the hit of power spikes

[fluid sapphire]

If that's what the generator/wiki says, probably

[compact flicker]

I wanted to be the first person to build a 1twh storage on Xbox, and stopped at 385,000mw cuz it deletes my frames when I go near the structure and I didn't wanna try doing 3x of that

[odd vessel]

oooh yah
there is a wiki ;/
thank you

[cunning siren]

I've done challenge runs where no power is ever wasted, it's crazy how lazy one can be with power generation with enough batteries and geos

[lavish flame]

hello factory

[next ivy]

with wasting power you mean the materials to make power, right ?

like coal

[cunning siren]

No, I mean power that is wasted AKA: Not used... goes nowhere... doing nothing... not stored

[next ivy]

oh and you also underclocked all your machines to 1% right ?

[deft sluice]

how does it make sense that a machine that's at the beginning of a manifold doesn't fill up and the machines that come after it are filled

[cunning siren]

No

[next ivy]

how is the extraction side setup

[lavish flame]

pretty sure if the first machines require more items/min than the ones after, it'll fill up later

could be wrong though

[deft sluice]

how do you mean?

[deft sluice]

that might be the case, it is an iron pipe machine followed by a bunch of iron wire

[next ivy]

the first assembler in the row, might also be the first to empty

[cunning siren]

Always charging batteries AND batteries never full, maybe that is a simpler way to say it

[lavish flame]

do batteries charge faster than they drain?

[leaden turret]

depends

[cunning siren]

I think there is a limit per battery of charge rate and no limit on discharge? It almost never comes into play, if it does... build more 🔋 ez

[compact flicker]

Batteries cap out at 100mwh per hr when charging.

The discharge rate is infinite

[autumn steeple]

petpetpet

[cunning siren]

Here's mah 1 Million skyscraper of 64x🔋 run screenshot #screenshots message

I build 🔋 hidden under the SW waterfall so I don't have to render them these days

[fluid sapphire]

Damn I got some catching up to do, only at 900k

[compact flicker]

If I ever actually finish a 1twh battery, I'm hiding it under the map next time

Too much lag when it's rendered :p

[fluid sapphire]

I tried to put walls around mine, doesnt help much

[cunning siren]

Building walls and foundations around stuff can help

[compact flicker]

It helped a little

[cunning siren]

But yes, out of sight is better

[compact flicker]

Was gonna make one of those giant duracells

#screenshots message

It's about 50% bigger now, but it still looks basically the same

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Pretty

[compact flicker]

Yeah smthn like that

[fluid sapphire]

Tried to mimic a duracell hehh

Looked a bit dull without the highlight

[compact flicker]

I haven't really messed with the signs for lightning

I hope the actual lighting structures get their bloom fixed at some point

[fluid sapphire]

I use a signs a lot for simple highlights

Just a bit of edge highlight, otherwise I don't usually use them at all #screenshots message

[leaden turret]

March 17th, 2026
Q&A: Is there anything being done to adjust the odd lighting with Ceiling / Flood Lights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBFMoNs7xY&t=7360

[lost cloak]

kickback to this, any ideas?

or i might just have to write it off as impossible

[hard wolf]

you can set them to standby, but not remotely

[lost cloak]

that would require going by each and every one of them, thats no better than valves

[knotty bear]

How would I end up making a larger door? I have some rather large walls and I want to make a grander door but idk if I unlock something later in the AWESOME shop after phase 3 or if I need to just somehow make a more impressive door through idek

[lost cloak]

i think a logics layer on top of the game would serve well, where you can hook up signal wires, and read or write signals.

And add logics to it.

So i could for instance, if (switch: on) toggle (standby)

or if (powerstorage > 40) toggle (switch)

[cunning siren]

There may be mods that do something like this

[plucky bone]

Just slooped some power shards. Got 270 some.

[cunning siren]

Noice

[lost cloak]

RIP

[plucky bone]

Ye. Now to put em to use somewhere...

[cunning siren]

I love sloops

[stuck canopy]

@wet jasper https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1490049979044331522 you got hdr enabled or is it super pixelated only on my screen?

[lost cloak]

i try to not pick too many of them actually, cause i think they look nice.
Ill yoink the purps, cause they give so many
or if i find sluggies in caves or well hidden places, ill take them cause ill never go there again most likely, or i wont miss that slug

but beside that i tend to leave them alone.
You can make shards later anyway

[wet jasper]

nah its my game

[hearty frost]

Hello, sorry to bother you, but i really want to know when does the 1.2 release officialy (Not on experiment version).

[lost cloak]

that looks like low resolution with upscaling and low settings, not HDR.
HDR would not affect sharpness

[cunning siren]

I build a single location to do slugs and DNA capsules and never move them in order to avoid the "tax" imposed on the first new run of a slooped machine. Does not really matter much though 🤷

[plucky bone]

Same here. I have a sloop setup too for biofuel or whatever I wanna sloop

[lost cloak]

@wet jasperalso on the question of that image, i think you didnt go far enough 😄

ill give it a pass, since its temprary. But i despise seeing slabs with factories ontop. Give them some walls damnit

[lavish flame]

can i bring my current save into experimental?

[lost cloak]

there is one way, you can use one of the SCIM editors i think its called?

someone surely know what im talking about and can guide you

[lavish flame]

i don't know if i want to start a new save for experimental after like 150 hours on this current save 😭

[rough shore]

back up the save and try to load it on there maybe

[lost cloak]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#4;13486;98330|realisticLayer|copperImpure;copperNormal;copperPure;ironPure;ironNormal;ironImpure;limestoneNormal;limestoneImpure;limestonePure;hardDrives

if you can figure out the process, have a go. You import your save here, then you should be able to export it to experimental

[cunning siren]

I always do a new start after completing the objectives 😆 I may be on playthrough 10 or something like that

[lost cloak]

you can also start a new save, but skip tiers. Like skipping to tier 4

tier 1-3 is just a grind anyway

[lavish flame]

true

[iron musk]

guys i just bought satisfactory after playing it for 100 hours

the thing is i think my save file is corrupted i lost everything in my inventory but everything else seems fine

[lavish flame]

wdym you bought it after 100 hours, how were you playing before? 😭

[lost cloak]

i was thinking the same lol

[iron musk]

i was playing cracked version

[lavish flame]

😭

[iron musk]

after a while i realised devs deserve every penny of my hard earned dollars

[lost cloak]

i can respect crackers, if its just to test out a game

[lavish flame]

i mean, i'd be lying if i said i'd never done it before so i can't really say much

[lost cloak]

i can say ive never cracked 🙂

[quick cipher]

Has anyone here tried Satisfactory through Microsoft Cloud Gaming? I have a few questions if someone would be kind enough to field them.

[iron musk]

i play cracked versions first because most of the games released nowadays doesnt deserve to be paid

[lost cloak]

or like sure i cracked minecraft when i was 12, but i didnt have any way to pay online back then
so that dont count

[wet jasper]

I just finished the machines in the building and I will be adding decorations and a control tower with a priority power switch, but I want to get some sleep for now

[west jackal]

Is ionized fuel a gas?

[cunning siren]

I run on potato hardware and can do 4k with TSR upscale @ 50%. Resolution does not seem to help FPS much in this game in my situation. It does make things look much better though if you have the display to show it obvi

[west jackal]

You cannot talk about this in this server.

[iron musk]

what :

who cares

[lost cloak]

you have 2hrs on steam on any game. I use refunds if i wanna test something

i wish game devs brought back demos. Like you get a free piece of the game for free, no time catch

[wet jasper]

It does for me since I have normally 70 fps and when i up the graphics it drops to 20

[west jackal]

The mods. Its literally one of the main rules

[iron musk]

oh ok

lets set this crack thing aside

[leaden turret]

I forget if being stupid enough to admit to being a pirate means you get banned, lol

[iron musk]

what do you guys think caused this corruption

[cunning siren]

Same here. The trick is to be selective on what you "crank up" and "crank down" settings wise

[iron musk]

everything besides my inventory is fine

[lavish flame]

well probably transfering your save from a cracked version is the problem

[royal mortar]

is there a way to make sure that "zoop" is always the default build mode? pretty often it's not 🙁

[west jackal]

I mean... Just click r?

[lost cloak]

its always in the mode you last left it in

[west jackal]

I thought outright admitting it like that was... but im not a "pioneer" role

[cunning siren]

Try these settings here: #screenshots message

[lost cloak]

ohh no this is upscaling this looks rough 🙁

even if you put it at 99, it looks so much worse

[cunning siren]

Except it doesn't

Nope

[lost cloak]

anything non-native does

[cunning siren]

#Doubt

[lost cloak]

well exactly 50% can work

[royal mortar]

when i build catwalks, picking the corner element seems to reset the previously used zoop to normal/single mode, and when i switch back to stairs, catwalk or whatever, i have to enable zoop again. it's annoying doing that over and over again 🙁

[lost cloak]

BRUH what do you mean, you cant fit 700pixles on a 1000px row without moshing some pixles together. If you run at 25 or 50% then sure you can make it work, but anything in between will cause artifacts

[keen hinge]

What is the best power generation system and how good are coal generators?

[lost cloak]

oh it resets? i dont think thats intended

[leaden turret]

pioneer isn't mod

[amber crater]

honestly 50% looks pretty close to native at least with FSR. there's some ghosting but nothing major except when it rains

i run it because i want to max out global illumination

but if i turn that off i don't need to upscale at all

[cunning siren]

Look at this low rez setting with no upscaling #screenshots message and then a high rez 4k one with upscaling... 🤷 it's a no brainer bruh #screenshots message

[amber crater]

you can also use some engine.ini configs to help sharpen the upscaled image if it's blurry on your system

your mileage may vary especially if you have a lower res panel (i'm upscaling 50% of 1440p, so it's not as much quality loss as upscaling 50% of 1080p)

[royal mortar]

can someone confirm this? maybe i'm just to stupid or something?! 🫣

[gaunt crypt]

It's a 4 stop closed loop. 2 stops at each end.

End 1: Unload Full -> Load Empties

Unload full feeds depackagers which feeds Load Empties.

End 2: Unload Empties -> Load Fulls (Repeat)

Unload empties feeds packagers which feeds Load fulls.

Seed "load empties" & "unload empties" with a combined 3 trains worth of empties. Once it spins up a full closed loop will run forever with a single train doing everything. If you need more throughput you can cram more trains into the loop and add more empties/buffers to match.

If you're consuming some of the tanks directly (pressure turbo motors or whatever) then add a line of constructors building empties that feeds directly into Load empties with splitter priorities clear the depackagers before accepting new ones.

[wet jasper]

I tried it and my game is more laggy and looks dried out so I think I will keep it with the old ones. Also I came back to look at the place where I took the photo and it seems like it's just the screenshot, but I don't know if I accidentaly changes something

[winged root]

Guys is my math correct 4 refineries with the electrode alumina recipie produces 420m3 of water and then all I need is a water generator for 180m3, but for some reason the system seems to back up (assuming 600 bauxite per minute)

[next ivy]

because of the offset probably

[cunning siren]

you may need to reset your game entirely for all the settings to go into effect

[winged root]

After another inspection is seems to be I was missing 3 conveyor inputs which I missed due to close splitter spacing (hhhhhh)

[wet jasper]

I did

[cunning siren]

Ahhh ok, did you change the resolution setting at all? If not that makes total sense

[lost cloak]

#screenshots message

this is 81% vs 100%
should be almost no difference, but see how washed left one looks. You lose this type of detail when you use upscaling, the reason is simle. You have a sharp line, often represented by a row of pixles. Now you need to scale that 1px thick row, up by 20%. That means you need to dim the line down, and add another feint line next to it.

It just does not look good, my guy you're factually wrong here.

Its why it works on 50% and 25% cause then you dont need to smudge anything

if you use 200% then you get a softer image too, but at least there you're getting more fine detail, so downscaling can look good. But upscaling only works on 50%

[cunning siren]

If you have a beefy pc sure crank whatever setting you want, this is not the situaiton here with OndraGame and I so 🤷 perhaps valid for your situaiton

[true socket]

I modded my game one time, then removed the modded stuff and the mods with it. Nothing in my world broke. The only thing that's annoying is the warning when I open that specific save. It says that because it previously had mods some things may be broken. Is there any way for me to get it to remember my decision to play anyway? The save is completely fine, it now just warns me every time and it's quite annoying.

[amber crater]

you want to make sure you're upscaling by a factor of 2 if possible yeah

[lost cloak]

if you have a 4k monitor with a bad PC, then you just made a bad purchase. All games should be ran at native, mess with settings instead

[cunning siren]

Yes... I'll just spend more money I don't have 🤦

[fluid sapphire]

Eh, I play some games at 1080, some at 1440, not all games run equally

[amber crater]

some people use 4k monitors because they do a lot of working which can require lots of screen space, i know some programmers who have 4k-8k monitors and mid specs

[fluid sapphire]

A handful at 120 Hz, rest at 60, not everything needs to be "native"

[lost cloak]

fair but then you can also use 50% or 25% upscaling, which works better than any other random value

[fluid sapphire]

Take the boosts where you can get them

[lost cloak]

if you have a crap PC then im expecting you to have a 1080p monitor too. Even a bad PC can run satisfactory on 1080p moderate settings.

[amber crater]

yep

[lost cloak]

but 1440p native looks better than 4k upscaled from 1440p

[knotty bear]

I'm just happy this game runs between 40-60 fps on my 2060 at 1080p lmao.
4k would be insane though, I play 1080p at native res and high settings and its fine, can't imagine getting a 4K monitor then just running it so everything is just upscaled 1080p

[cunning siren]

AND with the right settings 4k like in my situation

[gaunt crypt]

I've definitely sank 80 warp drives per minute on a 2016 pc.

[fluid sapphire]

There I was thinking that the strength of the PC platform is that you can do whatever the fuck you want

[cunning siren]

Woh, you got a 2060? How is GTX 1080 > 2060? 🤔 Maybe it's possible

[gaunt crypt]

could have went higher but didn't want to refactor.

[knotty bear]

Unless you have a display that can really like change resolution like a CRT I would really want to stay with a multiple of my res, like 4K is a multiple of 1080p, 1080p would look decent but I wouldn't get 4k with a PC that only does 1080p well, same with 1440p, it can cleanly upscale 720p.

If I really need a lower resolution I'll use my CRT as that can display anything without pixel stretching or whatever and its my smoothest display by far.

[knotty bear]

The 2060 is still 2 performance tiers lower than the 1080, and the cross gen leap wasn't that high. I think a 2070 would be about equal.

[cunning siren]

OH... that may explain it

[lost cloak]

resolution should be the last thing you consider though, when messing with settings.

increasing resolution doubles or quadruples the load on your PC depending on what settings you go between

1080>4k is 4x load
1080>1440p is 2x load
1440>4k is 2x load

if you get a twice as powerful computer, you can upgrade ur monitor from 1080 to 1440.
Alot of people make the mistake of getting a 4k monitor with a pc upgrade, not realizing how insanely demanding it is to run.

The gains from 4k, visually, isnt that big compared to 1440

1440 is a great middleground

[fluid sapphire]

Once you go 1440 it's hard to go back

[lost cloak]

1440 is a great upgrade

1080 to 4k is also wild

but 1440 to 4k aint that big

[fluid sapphire]

It can be worth going from 1080 to a 1440 monitor even if your pc is not beefy enough to run all games at it

[quick cipher]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use Microsoft Cloud Gaming on PC to play multiplayer with XBox users?

[fluid sapphire]

Depending on what else you do with your pc

[fluid sapphire]

Like cross play? No

[knotty bear]

My monitors are 1080p@60hz (overclocks to 115hz), 1280x1024@75hz, and 1600x1200@75hz for the max res.

I would have to try looking at a 4k display to see if its actually a big enough upgrade but as is I don't think my PC would like to run 4K, I think 1440p would work well enough for most things though.

[lost cloak]

ok fair, but if you wanna go 1440p i would actually try really hard to fork up for a gpu thats able to take advantage of it, else its alot of wasted potential.

Its like buying a 250fps monitor when ur PC can only run games at 100

[quick cipher]

Gotcha, so the only way is XBox to XBox?

[fluid sapphire]

I don't know the specifics of cloud gaming, but I suspect those games run on PC - I think... PlayStation and xbox have cross play?

[lost cloak]

you overclocked the resolution on your monitor? XD

[fluid sapphire]

Well, the screen space can be really nice for productivity even if you can't take full advantage of it gaming wise - for refresh rate it's a different story, I don't think those are directly comparable

[cunning siren]

Oh wait, a 2060 can do DLSS upscaling 🤔 have you tried that setting?

[quick cipher]

I can't figure it out, but I think there's a way to "spoof" a PC to look like an XBox when you use their cloud streaming service. Can't make heads or tails of it. I'm just being cheap though and probably should fork out the ~$200 on a used Series S and stop being a cheapo.

[knotty bear]

I've tried it but like, it didn't improve FPS all that much and it occasionally bothered me.

[lost cloak]

oh i agree, 100% but it is wasted potential to not try and take advantage of it in games. You gain more value from a gpu with such a monitor

[cunning siren]

Ok

[eager scaffold]

anyone got good personal recommended spots (coords) for a megabase that still have a beautiful surrounding and is kinda in the center

[lost cloak]

i had 1x 4k 2x1440p
i upgraded it from 1x1440p 2x1080p

but it was too much work, i ended up selling my 4k and instead now im running 2x 1440p 1x 1080p

[knotty bear]

I would always want to upgrade my GPU over a monitor, though if you notice your GPU is like, constantly at a low usage then I would upgrade. Rn I can hear my GPU scream while I play satisfactory.

[fluid sapphire]

You sure do, I'm just thinking of my own example, I don't have the beefiest Gpu (3060ti), but I have a 120hz 1440p monitor, take the nice parts where I can get them

[lost cloak]

can you just confirm, did you make your 1080p monitor run 1600x1200?

[stuck canopy]

hdr screenshots sometimes looks afwul

[lost cloak]

its not hdr tho

[brittle dune]

WHY ARE SPLITTERS AND MERGERS AND CONVEYOR LIFTS IN GENERAL WITH THAT SHIT LIKE THAT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[lost cloak]

huh?

its under logistics

[vocal sparrow]

[lost cloak]

also ive never clicked those things from the build menu like ever, all those go straight on my toolbar

[knotty bear]

No, I have 3 monitors

[lost cloak]

oh i misread thought you said you "overclocked" it to run in those configurations

[fluid sapphire]

All you need is one

[lost cloak]

i always bind belt, splitter, lift, power and constructor
and i have another equivalent tab for pipes
and one tab for platforms and foundations

[nocturne crane]

hey, i am trying to figure out which recipe chain to use for radio control units but i cant decide. how do i decide stuff like that? also which one would yall recommend?

[brittle dune]

@lost cloak that is not what I am talking about...

at all

[lost cloak]

can i instead help you learn that process? cause it heavily depends on what resources you have in ur area

[fluid sapphire]

Similar setup for me, with a bunch more stuff on the first (main) bar, like conveyor support, 4m foundation... Uhhh, not sure what else, buncha general stuff, no machines anywhere though, those are all blueprints

[nocturne crane]

sure that'd help a lot

[hard wolf]

alternatively: trains

[vapid jasper]

is it possible to have a fuel source be 100% fully automatic? or am i always gonna have to get fuel to at least get the miner going for coal?

[fluid sapphire]

That's what I do, I scout areas that would accommodate certain recipes or chains

[brittle lichen]

I use satisfactory calculator, its really good to see the impacts using different alternates will have on the production chain

satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/

[hard wolf]

coal power is automatic but you'll need power to get it running

[fluid sapphire]

Both

[vapid jasper]

yeah so ill always have to farm biomass or something at the minimum?

[lost cloak]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Radio_Control_Unit

like i always start here, then i click though the ingredients to get a picture of what recipe fits me best.
First thing i see is they all use manufacturer, so thats the same

2 of them use aluminum casing and one uses heat sink so you HAVE to use aluminum, so check that on your list. You must use aluminum

Then consider the other components. Would you rather make

Crystal Oscalator + computer
high speed connector + quartz crystals + (copper or rubber)
or circuit boards + crystal oscalator + rubber

then you can go one layer deeper and check each of those. see what resources they end up taking

[nocturne crane]

i am using satisfactory modeler but idk which materials matter more than others, where i should go also hook up some copper for wire and when to use iron wire recipe etc

[brittle lichen]

it will generate power to power itself once it's kickstarted

[vapid jasper]

ah okay thank you

[brittle lichen]

Yeah, alot of it depends on location, like how close nodes are, and also what nodes you want to save to use lategame

[fluid sapphire]

Look for locations and try to use what seems convenient

[nocturne crane]

i already checked that and they all use quartz, oil byproducts and aluminium

[cunning siren]

I use default radio control recipe and sloop it if you have some to spare, if not. Time to go sloop hunting IMO 🤷

[lost cloak]

they all use aluminum, i think you can cut both oil quartz. Know what, tell me what you want to use. Aluminum is a must, what else do you wanna use? ill try for you

[fluid sapphire]

It also gets a bit easier if you split stuff up a bit and ship it around, like you could make the aluminum and rubber at separate factories and import them where you need them

[lost cloak]

@nocturne crane pick an ideal location, that has aluminum. And give me like

"i want to either add quartz, copper and iron, maybe catherium"
or "i want to add oil catherium, maybe copper and if i have to, iron"

[nocturne crane]

i dont know what i want to use. also all recipes use crystal oscilators or quartz crystals. all recipes look overall good i think tbh

[brittle lichen]

Satellite factories are the best way to future-proof your world. The idea is you have a facotry that makes alot of a lower tier resource, and a output train station. Then whenever you need those resoucres you can just have a train bring it to you. I like to take it a step further and make a intercontinental railroad, so i always have a easy to access train route back to the satellite factories whenever I needed.

holy yap my bad

[lost cloak]

oh damn ye they do all use quartz, my bad. Ok so quartz and aluminum are both locked in

[nocturne crane]

yeah

i guess the western small islands have oil and some quartz and bauxite nearby

[lost cloak]

and one more observation, you HAVE to add copper OR catherium

[cunning siren]

Great thing about modeler is it can calculate the entire map with sloopage and OC! HUGE advantage to know optimal sloopage usage

[lost cloak]

so that narrows it down more. Find a spot with Bauxite + Quartz. And EITHER Copper or Catherium.

[fluid sapphire]

Fwiw, I produce my late phase 4 parts like so, just basically import a bunch of simpler stuff https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ZKvy8j6r9LbMcSTK7RiY

[lost cloak]

Until they add Alien Invasion update

[gaunt crypt]

you've more or less pinned it down. Unless you're doing a "trying to consume the entire map build" the best recipie often comes down to "which is easiest to scale with what I've already got online/nearby"

[nocturne crane]

radio control system can be made with electrode circuit boards tho, no copper or caterium

[lost cloak]

it does require copper or catherium.

You need oscillators, which are either made from Cable or AI limiter
AI limiter uses catherium for both recipes
Cables use, well... ok fine there is quickwire cable i didnt think of that. But then you also force rubber

[nocturne crane]

iron cables

[lost cloak]

not a thing

[nocturne crane]

what??

[gaunt crypt]

iron wire -> normal cable?

[cunning siren]

If your copper and caterium supplies are overflowing that does not really solve any problems though 🤷

[lost cloak]

there is wire
wire + heavy oil
wire + rubber
quickwire + rubber

[unkempt blade]

he seems to be confidently incorrect pretty frequently

[lost cloak]

iron cable would not make sense irl either cause iron is not very conductive

[nocturne crane]

yeah tbh idk what to use copper and caterium for. i guess copper for nuclear pasta but caterium idk

[lost cloak]

OH the damn WIRE can be made of iron, damn ok i yield

[old grail]

but iron cable cuts most of the copper requirements, based recipe like iron pipe

[lost cloak]

NEVER in my life have i used that

didnt even think of it

[gaunt crypt]

it makes at least as much sense as the plastic/rubber recycling singularity.

[old grail]

there so much iron on the map its insane

[lost cloak]

i dont know the chemestry behind it, but its all hydrocarbons. You use fuel to get plastic and rubber out of recycling

maybe it could make some sense

[nocturne crane]

tbh i wasnt sure if i was going insane about it, if you forgot, or if it was some community joke

[gaunt crypt]

yep and iron conducts some electricity!

[unkempt blade]

worrying about IRL science in a game with scifi tech and alien magic all over the place is silly

[cunning siren]

In my experience I use iron wire for Stator and Reinforced Iron Plates (Stitched iron plate alt recipe) and copper for Copper Sheets and Copper Powder

[stuck canopy]

how often do you all put signals to segment straight parts of rail network?

[white dawn]

I generally go every 200m or so.

[unkempt blade]

depends what I'm building but generally not smaller than about 2 train lengths

[stuck canopy]

ya probably need to do something like that

[white dawn]

You'll see 100-300m being pretty common. (I expect that the bell curve skews more towards the 100m side)

[fluid sapphire]

You can definitely make RCU without making oscillators

[lost cloak]

catherium is just so good for cables i always use catherium. Its such a nice thoughput too, and catherium isnt used too much elsewhere

[old grail]

yeah lol i just wanted to tell it its just a hecking factory game some nerds should chill out

[old grail]

caterium wires yeah based recipe

[lost cloak]

sure but you need high speed for the 3rd recipe, which requires quickwire on both recipes

[white dawn]

The only time it might really matter, btw, is on blocks which are approaching Path-Signal-signal'd intersections. It takes the path signals a few seconds to reserve a path, when you're using them, and if the block leading into the intersection is "too short," trains approaching it may slow down even if they've got an obviously clear path

If you've got a longer block leading up to the path, that gives the reservation enough time to complete so that the train doesn't have to slow down

[fluid sapphire]

High speed connector is dead easy to make :p

[nocturne crane]

ok the only places i can find that have both quartz and bauxite nearby is northeast of the big hole, and west of the big hole

[lost cloak]

i would love if coffestain released a list of most used alt recipes. Im curious which ones are the least used ones.

i think iron wire is down there

[gaunt crypt]

More and more I find myself using caterium straight up for wire and quickwire efficiency be damned as it's fast, high yield and for a susposedly rare resource there always seems to be another node available.

[lost cloak]

we are talking about base resources here, not complexity

[stuck canopy]

what does that mean?

[white dawn]

(Though I should also mention that that slowdown is, in the grand scheme of things, an awfully small thing to worry about too much. If your trains' throughput is gonna get harmed by a little bit of slowing down occasionally, you should probably add an extra freight car anyway)

[old grail]

iron wire as a most or leastd used?

[lost cloak]

least used

[unkempt blade]

my standard train is 4 freight + 1 locomotive so my block segment generally isn't smaller than the length of 10 cars

[fluid sapphire]

What, fr

I use iron wire a lot as I'm sure do many others

[lost cloak]

HUH

[fluid sapphire]

Iron is worth a lot less than copper

[brittle lichen]

yeah

[old grail]

why tho literally peak recipe imo, completely removes the copper

[unkempt blade]

Iron wire is nice because you can choose to remove copper from a lot of chains if there isn't any close by

[cunning siren]

OH yea... iron wire is goated

[stuck canopy]

i believe problem i got that i had a path only interesction before another one and trains were waiting till other train went through that anotther intersection thats like 2km away

[lost cloak]

but copper is so commonly found alone with iron. And if you want yield, there is copper + catherium
if you want simple, there is catherium

[stuck canopy]

how long is that in meaters :D

[old grail]

yeah but why would you add another belt when you can feed from the one

[lost cloak]

ok crazy, i thought iron wire was universally hated. ill keep that hate to myself then, im not giving it away though. Im keeping that hate

[gaunt crypt]

main advantage of iron wire is there's pretty much no point where iron is the bottleneck

[stuck canopy]

i believe that happened, or something similar

[fluid sapphire]

For higher yield you can just use more iron , caterium and copper is better left for fused quickwire

[unkempt blade]

Looks like 160m. Just mathing it from the wiki

[old grail]

understandable bro its just a game i personally like iron wire

[gaunt crypt]

it feels dirty but it's dead simple

[unkempt blade]

all I know for sure is that the best recipe in the game is cast screws

[brittle lichen]

yes

without a doubt

[fluid sapphire]

We can make motors from iron and water. I'd make everything from iron and water if I could

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1490070660511170841 yee i have over a kilometer without any signals

[unkempt blade]

should work fine until you get some more train traffic 😄

[royal mortar]

i need more monochrome icons ... much more! 😛

[nocturne crane]

aaa why is deciding this so difficult

[stuck canopy]

yee it was fine with 1 train, as soon as i added second they started stoping at that X interesection

[gaunt crypt]

If I want to make a big build that uses a lot of screws I use steel screws.
If I want a lot of screws in the short term until I optimize screws out of the production chain I use cast screws.

[cunning siren]

I've been using steel screws cuz... what am I gonna do with my steal beams after Mk4 belts anyway? 😆 Game is silly like this how it progresses sometimes

[unkempt blade]

Steel screws is a good recipe too. I like it even better with aluminum beams later in the game

[cunning siren]

I'm to lazy to ship those and nothing uses the steel beams anyway 🤷

[gaunt crypt]

late game you can pretty much eliminate actual steel production. Anywhere you need beams you can ship in aluminum ingots that probably have other uses there too and iron pipe means you have steel pipe available basically anywhere.

[nocturne crane]

oh would using radio connection unit and using some of those materials for cooling systems for OC supercomputers be a good idea?

[cunning siren]

Sometimes I tend to use what is in place vs demo it, I only do objectives then restart so it's not a big whoop either way

I guess 10 BWD a min is the "end game" for me

[dusk gate]

Where do I need to upload other people's building plans in the experimental version so that they appear on my map?

[next ivy]

same as without experimental ?

[dusk gate]

No

Without experimenting, I dumped them into a folder and they appeared in the world.

[gaunt crypt]

When you save a blueprint in your experimental where does it end up?

Wherever that is would be my guess.

[cunning siren]

Try this: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Blueprint

[nocturne crane]

ok i think i will make a oil processing facility and bauxite processing facility, and for radio control units ill connect outputs from those facilities to it

is that a good idea?

[cunning siren]

It really depends on many factors, if you have fun while doing it, you are "winning" IMO 🤷

[fluid sapphire]

Did you look at the link I sent you

That's probably about as streamlined as you could make that

OC supercomputer has its haters, I find it super convenient

[cunning siren]

After Assembly Director System and Neural-Quantum Processor space elevator parts are done, The Supercomputers build is idle in my playthroughs 🤷 not a big priority for me as I sink BWD and that also does not require them

[fluid sapphire]

A factory must always run 🏃‍♂️

[cunning siren]

Nah

I do lazy power runs so, I conserve as much as possible

[fluid sapphire]

Idle machine is wasted potential

[leaden turret]

idle machines are the beuger's play things

[cunning siren]

FICSIT does not waste

[leaden turret]

FICSIT does not install spellcheck

[hearty solar]

@iron musk divide your input (360 crude oil) by the amount used by the machine (60/m) then multiply by the output (40/m) = 240 fuel/m

[cunning siren]

You have FICSIT in your spell check? Woh brhu

[leaden turret]

no, I just know how to spell it 😛

[iron musk]

it is how it works right im not wrong

i thought i was trippin for a sec

[cunning siren]

And you never make mistakes like other humans aye? 🤔 Intresing how perfect you are

[lost cloak]

Fixit where?

[leaden turret]

• never said I don't make mistakes
• never said I was human
• never said I was perfect

[cunning siren]

What a perfect responce

[hearty solar]

you wouldn't have 160 but 240 which is 12 generators and produces 3GW

[knotty bear]

My game crashed when removing some foundations and pipes and refineries

[next ivy]

nice

[lost cloak]

mine crashed on blueprint yesterday, when removing it

[iron musk]

oh okay thanks

[stone python]

1.1, or experiomental?

[knotty bear]

experimental

[cunning siren]

Oh? Does it happen every time?

[stone python]

#satisfactory-experimental

[knotty bear]

no but I've had random other crashes dissasembling large amounts of stuff

[stone python]

theres a seperate chat for experimental

[lost cloak]

correcting stuff like this is a bit cringe

[lost cloak]

but also getting this mad over it is.. well actually funny 😛

[stone python]

calling it cringe is cringe

cringeception

[lost cloak]

nah thats cringe bro

[cunning siren]

It sounds like you believe you can know others emotional states over a keyboard 🤔 neat trick

[stone python]

maybe theyre an empath

[cunning siren]

ESP path 😆

[lost cloak]

yea decades behind a screen does that to you

i can read emotion from letters

[cunning siren]

< I'll put my tinfoil hat on > that will fix your powers

[rapid bear]

is there a way to farm for power slugs

[lost cloak]

SPIRE

[wise junco]

just roam around findin' em

[lost cloak]

SPIRE

[rapid bear]

spire?

[winged root]

Finally connected 13 factories with trains ….on paper

[leaden turret]

a: doggo farm
b: can automate power shards now

[lost cloak]

North North of the map, there is a moist land of sluggies. There are more slugs than you can eat

you can go for 2 hours, from one slug to another, without ever not seeing a slug

[rapid bear]

oooooooooooooooooooo

so just go north?

[fluid sapphire]

Go at night, so they are easily visible

[lost cloak]

warning, bring ranged weapon

and prefferably jetpack, alternatively pulse nobs. Cause there are alot of insects that will make your night horrible

[winged root]

Nah go to the red forest lot of purple slugs and 100% no enemies, trust

[ornate saffron]

the spire coast has a enough sulgs to make slug-o-Cola

[whole robin]

you can also use sloops on constructors to double the shard you get from them, i have more shards saved up than i can upload to the Depot

[cunning siren]

This game needs Slurm!

[lost cloak]

the swamp called you for an in person meeting

[rapid bear]

ok so very north gotcha thanks

[leaden turret]

don't need slurm, can ask <@&370483737957236737> to add Julmust

[lost cloak]

and bring pulse + glider, or jetpack

• bring a ranged weapon. Rebar gun is sufficient

[rapid bear]

pulse?

[lost cloak]

yes pulse nobilisks, drop the mam and research quartz

[ornate saffron]

boombox works as pulse

[winged root]

Ok so I got radar across the entire map and by the looks of it the spot with the most slugs unless they are RNG is right of the beaches biome in the north at 213+ (I took some previously)

[ornate saffron]

drop tyhe bass of the worse of goat sim

[winged root]

Also the biome doesn’t have spiders unlike the beach one

[lost cloak]

that is indeed the spire we're been talking about

[winged root]

I see not the area with the oil fields

[cunning siren]

Be sure to sloop dem slugs when you mash them for there sluggy goodness

[surreal breach]

uhmm, gases like nitrogen dont need pumps right???

[ornate saffron]

no pumps needed

[winged root]

They should

Oh you meant those pumps

[surreal breach]

yeah

cuz like, my nitrogen isnt flowing almost at all

[lost cloak]

it takes a short while to pressurize the pipes

let it run for 5-10 min

[surreal breach]

oh alr

ty!

[lost cloak]

or actually, check the nitro pump, see if its outputting

if its outputting then all good

if it stops, and pipes are not near full, then sound the alarm

[surreal breach]

its filled all the way up pretty sure

[lost cloak]

but pipes are not?

[surreal breach]

nope, 1km of pipes

[lost cloak]

what about the first pipe segment, how is it looking. is it full?

[surreal breach]

yup, the ones at the start are full

[lost cloak]

ok follow the line, is it a sudden stop or a gradual falloff?

im suspecting one of the pipes are cooked, and not connected

[surreal breach]

theyre all connected

let me check at the farm

[lost cloak]

ok but follow the pipe, does pressure gradually drop, or is it sudden

if its gradual - stop at a pipe thats roughly halfway full. Monitor it, see if it continues to fill up or if its stagnant.
maybe dropping a "liquid" container there could help

[edgy python]

can someone help me rq my manufacturers arent receiving enough rubber they get it from a train that only travels a few km on a railway that has no traffic the refineries producing 300 rubber /min are at 100% but somehow 2/4 manufacturers are at 65% event though they each take 75 rubber adding up to 300

[spare prism]

Hi

[lost cloak]

follow the machines from manufacturer, and follow the trail of the rubber back down the production like to find the bottleneck

[compact flicker]

Did you account for the belts out of the train pausing when it loads the rubber?

[lost cloak]

that SHOULD not matter, as the train station acts as a buffer

[autumn steeple]

youre not using mk3 belts i assume?

[edgy python]

all the refineries are at 100% i genuinely built a independent railway for it

[edgy python]

mk4

[autumn steeple]

okay

[lost cloak]

maybe it just needs time to fill up the assembly line

[edgy python]

its been going for 20h or so

[compact flicker]

Yeah I suppose if the belts aren't maxed it wouldn't

I recently had that issue so it was on my mind already

[lost cloak]

ok so you have rubber being produced at 100% for 20h but manufacturers working at 50%
then somewhere you are either using rubber you didnt account for, or you produce less than you thought, or manufactueres require more than you thought

[edgy python]

i have storage containers on both sides btw so its not stopped by the train unloading

[edgy python]

recepie is flexible heavy modular frame

im specifically shipping 300 rubber for 4 of them

a direct railway and direct conveyer i already re counted the amount of refineries

[lost cloak]

clocked?

[edgy python]

no

[lost cloak]

ok and they are fed directly from the train?

[edgy python]

yes

[lost cloak]

ok then go to the train where rubber is fed into the station. What are you seeing there

like follow the line backward until you find the bottleneck

either you messed up production, or you messed up consumption, or there is a bottleneck.

[soft rose]

Check your belts. I had one section of belt that was a mk2 instead of mk4 and it cut my production in half

[edgy python]

i can maybe send a vid of the whole line

[lost cloak]

sure

[fluid sapphire]

Ya'll should move this into #1038092680493801533

[lost cloak]

@soft rose yea i have mk1 belt on my hotbar and i toggle it up to the tier i need. some times i forget to toggle them up. So i hook up a factory, and there is this one belt bogging down everything

[lost cloak]

its fine, we are talking about satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

No slow mode and you can share videos and images directly

It's not that

[lost cloak]

oh images, sick, ok moving to questions

yeye you're right didnt know you could share images

[fluid sapphire]

It's just easier

[lost cloak]

let me know when you made a channel in questions and help

or dm me

[fluid sapphire]

If you make a public post there other people can chime in too

[lost cloak]

fair

[fluid sapphire]

This sounds like a very error-prone setup

[lost cloak]

neh i like to downrank belts to what i need. Its muscle memory, i select belt and tap E for tier 2 > 3 > 4 etc.

[fluid sapphire]

If you say so, but why?

[lost cloak]

i dunno, something about seeing saturated belts i guess

i dont have a strong argument for it, most people rip their best belt everywhere and fair enough

[unkempt blade]

I like how the slow belts look more than seeing stuff zip by at a million miles an hour

[edgy python]

its randomly fixed itself??

[lost cloak]

like i wish we had mk0 belts, that had a variable speed between 0-60

for those 1-5items/min lines

[lost cloak]

sure its ran for 20 min? that sounds alot like a "i just plugged it in" situation

[fluid sapphire]

That's fair, but wouldn't it be a safer bet to have your best belt on the bar, then select a lower tier if you need one?

[lost cloak]

maybe, but then i'd never find the problem 😄

[fluid sapphire]

What problem?

[lost cloak]

its rarely an issue, i hook up a factory, let it cook for 10 min, then i look for bottlenecks. its typically no more than 5 min of belt hunting

[edgy python]

idk what i did at all they js randomly went to 100% they genuinely werent working before

[lost cloak]

fast belt where i want slow belt

[edgy python]

mine was on for a long time i used it to get lots of coupons

[fluid sapphire]

It seems like that would be very easy to track down?

[edgy python]

whatever im not complaining

[fluid sapphire]

Maybe some internal buffers needed to fill up?

[edgy python]

idk it was js running for so long so idk why it js started working

[fluid sapphire]

Sometimes it be like that

[lost cloak]

slow belts are easy to track down, cause you see a building on like 60% and its low on frames, so you check the frame and its low on screws, and you check the screw and oh damn, it needs 120 screws on a mk1 belt ok fixed

[fluid sapphire]

Things either magically start working or stop working after a while for seemingly no reason (but there is always some kind of reason)

[edgy python]

ohh i think i know i recently had to build a powerplant after half my world ran out of power for quite some time so the rail line wasnt powered so now buffers filled up again

[fluid sapphire]

Fair enough, seeing mismatched belts everywhere would drive me even more crazy than I am, if thats even possible

[lost cloak]

i think the productivity indicator just bugged out. some times you need to idle and restart the building for it to track properly. i havent had much issue with that recently tho

[lost cloak]

for me, its seeing belts as full as possible. I hate empty belts

i hate belts in general too, i try to hide them most of the time

[fluid sapphire]

I like patterns that half empty belts form

[unkempt blade]

vehicles are the way!

[fluid sapphire]

In my aluminum factory I have a wall of lifts that looks like a lava lamp

[old grail]

i hate when i have the distance too short for rails/trucks but too long for belts

[cold berry]

Vehicles are awesome, but belts are also awesome in different settings to me

[unkempt blade]

sounds perfect for factory carts

[cold berry]

I just wish we had a dedicated vehicle for in buildings lol

[lost cloak]

truck it up!

[old grail]

trucking up that 300m node-factory

[lost cloak]

or i make a conduit

[feral vector]

man aluminum is finnicky

[cold berry]

Before someone says factory carts, a good vehicle

[fluid sapphire]

Genuinely unhinged take

What are we here for if not to watch items go brr on belts

[ornate saffron]

Hover pack, jett pack, parachute.

i know what you mean 😛

[lost cloak]

belts are ugly, i like clean and neat

[unkempt blade]

You cartblocked me

[feral vector]

of course I had one tiny mk1 pipe hidden behind a pump stopping me from inputting 480 water / min. and one belt on the output stopping me from getting all the aluminum scraps out fast enough

[fluid sapphire]

Belts can be neat

[old grail]

i try to make most of logistics under machines lol

[lost cloak]

belt lifts can be, a belt lift array along a wall can look SICK

[unkempt blade]

What inside-vehicles actually need imo is a smaller truck station equivalent

[feral vector]

got all 6 refineries at 100% though, using full 480 / min belt of aluminum. and water is recycled within the system hell ya

[spring ruin]

how do i make train blocks work? i put one around my train station and my train just gets stuck at the station

[feral vector]

robot forklifts would be awesome

[unkempt blade]

factory carts are a great size for indoors but truck stations are way bigger than needed

[old grail]

damn we bringing up that forklift certified guys into satisfactory

[lost cloak]

and you can use it to pick up buildings, and when you move it, belts follow it. So it would work like a retroactive nudge

[cold berry]

Just one feature I would need on an inter-factory vehicle is separate pathing object that can do curves or pivot, so it can do 90° angles by just turning it's wheels under it like a forklift. And maybe electricity docking station so you don't have to fuff around with fuel

[feral vector]

belts are very satisfying when they aren't spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

the carve up the rail into blocks (seen with color) they check the block infront if there is no trains ion that block the train is allowed to pac

[weak mesa]

why can't we daisy chain yet in the experimental?? 😭

[wise junco]

you can, need to research in mam

[fluid sapphire]

Idk, I take pride in my belt work, not to everyone's taste, but I find neatly, carefully built belts much more satisfying than just naked machines with magic belts hidden under the floor #screenshots message

[lost cloak]

another one falls victim to the mam...

[weak mesa]

thanks, i have just started the new save

[cold berry]

Rush caterium

[wise junco]

i haven't even played experimental lol

[weak mesa]

is it in the caterium stuff?

[lost cloak]

yea nah id route belts under the floor. But damn the colour theme look siiiick

[unkempt blade]

I'm just here for all that sweet sweet power storage

[lost cloak]

also is that sink material? or are you using sushi? thats brave

[ornate saffron]

look atr hisname. he not brave lol

[lost cloak]

bravery, stupidity, and insanity, can often be mixed up

one can either be brave, stupid, or insane, to jump off a bridge into a river down below

[edgy python]

Is it js me or is seeing a bunch of pipes neatly arranged so satisfying

[feral vector]

hmm anyone got any ideas why my first set of foundries is maxing out at 500 aluminum scraps but the second set is starving a little bit? the 720 scraps / min from the refineries come in on a mk5 belt, then a splitter puts them onto two mk4 belts that each feed a manifold of 4 foundries

[weak mesa]

where is it ? like what parts of caterium do you have to unlock before that

[feral vector]

a splitter should divide stuff evenly shouldn't it?

[lost cloak]

i dont remember, i just unlock shit, i dont look at it

[gloomy heart]

What's your favorite starting location?

[lost cloak]

it does

[ornate saffron]

splittter work via round robinm

[unkempt blade]

even across any outputs with room to place an item on

[feral vector]

well wtf both foundry manifolds should get the same amount of scraps then

[ornate saffron]

forest. every resource is nearbyt and the uneven terrain can force you to build unique structure

[unkempt blade]

did you use the correct mk belts for everything?