satisfactory

[tall lantern]

if you have something that needs coal, limestone and iron, then you look for a spot that has those nearby and build the item there.
Later on you may find it harder to find spots with everything you need, but at that point you also have access to multiple different vehicles to deal with moving the resources around.
But the final products can stay where they're made

not portals, but the ||Dimensional Depot|| basically solves getting your mitts on whatever items you're producing. Doesn't let other factories use 'em (good), but making factories all interdependent is a recipe for madness

[little cobalt]

it depends on what your goals are but a good rule of thumb is transporting whatever the most condensed version of your item is. like, shipping concrete or caterium ingots makes way more sense than the ores since they compress 3:1

[low roost]

Ohhh that is very good advice i was actually really struggling to figutr out how to do the conveyor belt spaghetti for the phase 3 components since all my production stuff is kind of spaced out

[west jackal]

not always possible though, and if using belts, doesnt really matter at low production scale, if it fits on one belt

[cunning glade]

"i had a nightmare about the power slugs
there were 2 very small ones and they
were climbing on my bed from the
opposite side of where iwas looking
they had legs like the stingers though
and thats what scared me
And i woke up scared as fuck" first thing I wake up and see from my friend lol

[little cobalt]

yeah, like all rules of thumb it isn't always the best option

[zealous coral]

on the satisfactory calculator there should be like a retrace your steps option, it shows your characters movement and factory builds throughout the save in like a sped up version on the interactive map.

like in legends of zelda

[tall lantern]

that'd require the save to actually have that info

[jagged nymph]

well thats impossible

[pine lark]

Fyi: harder to easier 2x recipe > 100x space parts > 5x power

[jagged nymph]

unless the satisfactory devs officially supported that by saving that information in the save file, which would be incredibly wasteful

[little cobalt]

can't deny it'd be neat though

[pine lark]

If we could see who erased and made what that would be great

[cunning glade]

Holy shit looking at notes they did holy peak

[jagged nymph]

it would be sick yeah, but will almost certainly never happen

[cunning glade]

Yeah they changed my post too solved so true

[jagged nymph]

yeah its such a peak node

[little cobalt]

i'm most excited about the small resource nodes being destructable now

[jagged nymph]

huh?

[cunning glade]

I'm using all of the rocky limestone so

If I had too go get more would of been annoying

[jagged nymph]

would have*

aktshually

[little cobalt]

the little nuggets that block your building or emit radiation. blow-up-able.

[cunning glade]

This new?

[jagged nymph]

oh theyre explodable now?

[little cobalt]

brand new in exp

[cunning glade]

Used too need a mod for that

[crisp barn]

dlss is so broken in this game

[drowsy verge]

Guys I took 13h for phase 1 is that good

[inner ruin]

No

[pine lark]

Satisfactory Blacklist would be great toxic people screenshot posted with proof so we can avoid them their Steam/epic etc. Id also Discord just add to block list happy life

[cunning glade]

Holy peak

[west jackal]

Deafbringer brought up something, why dont we have stackable ceiling mounts for pipes

[cunning glade]

Just use fsr4 simple

[jagged nymph]

do you think its good? if so yeah

[crisp barn]

so much more ghosting than in any other game with dlss

[jagged nymph]

theres no set pace to the game, so theres no behind or ahead

[drowsy verge]

fair

[jagged nymph]

some people finish the whole game in 100 hours, some people take oever 1000

[inner ruin]

That is 100% everyone elses fault for moving the chat up when you was trying to click reply

[pine lark]

I start produce alien matrices before that

[jagged nymph]

fr

[inner ruin]

Is the a350 that airbus thing which flies itself?

[jagged nymph]

they all do that

[inner ruin]

Yeah but i mean its more computer dominated

[cunning glade]

On a real note try xess

[pine lark]

Zoop option too still no zoop for ceiling belt stuffa

[cunning glade]

Iirc that's normally pretty solid

That shouldn't need optiscaler

[jagged nymph]

i mean the a350 does have a really modern computerized cockpit (sometimes reffered to as a "glass cockpit") but in terms of the autopilot itself its not really more advanced than other modern planes

you maybe thinking of the a320 which was the first airliner with fly by wire technology

[inner ruin]

Idk which one i mean I don’t really look at airbus

[jagged nymph]

lowk i put the [emerald] in my name cause my username used to be emeraldpig52 but everyone jsut calls me a350 lmao

[little cobalt]

i can't decide if i like the fact BPs let you place stuff you haven't unlocked yet or not. it would be neat to have the option to change belt speed on the fly to match your current progress

[jagged nymph]

i mean thats not intended

you arent supposed to be able to use blueprints you didnt make in the current save

without manually placing the files there

[jagged rivet]

Hey there. Is there any bug reports channel?

Do I just use the experimental channel?

[little cobalt]

yeah, i suppose so. remaking BPs in every playthrough feels silly to me but obv it's balanced around the first time experience

[jagged nymph]

wait a minute couldnt you do a sushi belt to feed machines with multiple solid inputs and only use one input? eg sending rods and reinforced plates on one belt into one assembler input to make frames

[little cobalt]

yup. just need the ratios perfect and no stoppages (or an overflow sink)

[little timber]

Ugh i hate plumbing

[jagged nymph]

yeah i mean it doesnt seem like a good idea

[little cobalt]

i sushi belted cat ingots, RIPs, and cables into my quartz facility for computers/RCUs

with storage container buffers + overflow at the intake location

[jagged nymph]

i dont use sushi belts cause i dont like them

[tranquil bolt]

Whats a sushi belt lol

[little cobalt]

multiple items on a single belt

[tranquil bolt]

Ohhh then use a programable splitter

[sterile blade]

The best kind of logistics one can make

[little cobalt]

smart splitter usually does the job just as well, but yup :)

[tranquil bolt]

What the difference

I never used smart splitters yet

[supple canopy]

really depends on the recipe. For heat-fused frame it's nearly impossible because the machine consumes half a stack of aluminum ingot every cycle, so you need a full stack by the end of the cycle. Other recipes that are more balances between stack sizes and throughput are more manageable

[proven snow]

I've definitely run into some sushi issues but it usually comes down to me not balancing things well or using high throughput resources

[sterile blade]

They have a site where they collect bug reports. It's linked in the main menu of the game and several channels of this server (like in #welcome)

[little cobalt]

1 heavy modular frame and 2 computers 😆

[jagged rivet]

ok ty

[sterile blade]

Programmable splitters are a bit more powerful and precise than smart splitters, so to speak... In other words: there's nothing programmable splitters do that you can't do with enough space, smart and normal splitters and mergers

[cosmic apex]

guys i just finished planning out my super awesome cool starter base in a document that im planning to build before i complete phase 2 and this thing is 2 pages long 😭

[pine lark]

What is highest power and consumption nearly same to each other possible with all pure and advanced resource rich power 1x recipe 1x possible?

[little cobalt]

specifically: smart splitters allow 1 parameter per output (overflow or specific item)

prog splitters allow more than 1 parameter per output

[sterile blade]

(which also has implications on items-balancing)

[viral egret]

where can i report a bug?

a small one, but still a bug i guess

[sterile blade]

#satisfactory message

[viral egret]

i see, i guess good timing?

thanks

[jagged nymph]

whats the bug

[viral egret]

nevermind someone already reported it ofc

it's the "ui disappears after opening map" bug

wonder why they didnt fix it, it should be trivial... there's probably some other shenanigans going on...

[weak bloom]

Does a merger round robin merge if all 3 inputs are coming in at the same rate?

[little cobalt]

i think so. but i would use priority mergers for the lowest throughput items on your sushi belt for safety

[broken valve]

Hello, is there an easy way to chain blueprint ? I made a railroad blueprint, and i want to be able to chain it easily, because right one i have to adjust it with the nudge. Also my blueprint does take all the space inside the mk2 blueprint designer

[supple canopy]

dunno what round robin merge means but they'll alternate equally if the output is lower that the combined throughput of the 3 inputs

[pulsar pivot]

can someone please help with making a sushi belt going into a dimensional uploader thatll never get backed up ive been tyring to do it for hours on end

[little cobalt]

i don't think it is possible. 1 DD per item if you want to have a steady flow

[viral egret]

i mean, youd just need a BIG buffer, but i guess it's doable? it'd be terrible tho

[supple canopy]

impossible unless you're constantly using items

[pulsar pivot]

sad

[supple canopy]

there are 298 mercer spheres on the planet. HARVEST.

[pulsar pivot]

gotta grind to find a fuck to of mercer sphres then ug

ig*

[reef basin]

you cannot

[supple canopy]

1 DD at LEAST. I have maybe 6 for iron plates and concrete each

[little cobalt]

concrete foundations my beloved

[viral egret]

#screenshots message whoops...

well i was close actually...

[river oxide]

any idea why im not gettin the zoop build mode on pipelines?

[cunning glade]

Coal gen needs 45 water?

[viral egret]

zoop mode on pipeline?

[next ivy]

hold ctrl i guess ?

[river oxide]

yea like building a single straight line instead of building each pipe one by one

[viral egret]

you can't?

like conveyors, i think

[viral egret]

brother, read

[cunning glade]

I'm at work and my hands are covered in grease

[viral egret]

fair play

[cunning glade]

Just using text to speech so

Trying to figure out how much water I need for coal power

[viral egret]

...at work?

[river oxide]

figured it out

[viral egret]

yes it needs 45m3/min

[cunning glade]

Yes I brainstorm all day consistently and then when I get home I actually like put those plans into action

[viral egret]

okay

[cunning glade]

So I need 9,720 water

32 oced too 300 hmm

[cunning glade]

Ty

[viral egret]

#screenshots message just noticed the fundations are not water tight... this is gonna bother me for a while

[gloomy tusk]

I never noticed that and now i will never unsee it

[viral egret]

you're welcome

[gloomy tusk]

[supple canopy]

bruh real life coal powered generators don't operate the same

[gloomy tusk]

so its 1.2 released or early acces

[tall lantern]

yes

it is released on Experimental

not so much "early access" as "come be our QA and get access to the shiny stuff in return, just make sure to back up your saves and blueprints"

[honest summit]

just wondering are the mods in this game is fun

[tall lantern]

there are mods, can't speak to their fun-ness

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @tall lantern

[gloomy tusk]

i dont really think the mods are insane but there are definetly some good qol mods and stuff like that

[tall lantern]

there's no "required" mods though, the game is absolutely fine vanilla

[honest summit]

ah alr just wondering cause i have a solo playthrough and when i finish ill probably play modded to spice it up with my friends

[gloomy tusk]

I didnt even know you could play modded online

[tall lantern]

only some mods

I assume they tell you if they're compatible or not

[hollow hazel]

Sheeebeeeesss.... When chasing down stuck trains I find that Smart Splitters haven't been configured correctly, many machines unpowered or underpowered, belts not completed, and the wrong recipes selected!

[sterile blade]

If one is feeding the sushi through one machine input (as mentioned in the original message), then overflow is not an option anymore ⚠️

[gloomy tusk]

I NEVER use sushi belts

[high forge]

Im very confused, what actually is Max.Consumption in satisfactory? I was under the assumption that it was the theoretical consumption if all machines was running at 100%. My grid keeps tripping (Randomly, didnt change anything) with production at 5,000MW and consumption at 200MW

[cunning glade]

I mean they could

In the end it all comes back too steam tbh

[little cobalt]

ohh true. you'd have to have two smart splitters and use the second input. which defeats the point lol

[tall lantern]

it is that, roughly (gets murky with variable-draw machinery)

consumption's what you're actually using (not counting the 100MW from hoverpack I believe), max consumption's if everything was running

[green fiber]

If it trips theree likely a different issue.

[sterile blade]

You trade a lot of fragility (lack of overflow control) for... checks notes... slightly slimmer input feeds and arguably better-looking logistics?

[coral delta]

What should I do with excess Alumina solution? I have boat-loads of it

[warm robin]

Hello I have a question concerning satisfactory’s performance. In terms of improving performance Which would be more important to upgrade first ? CPU or graphics card?

[little cobalt]

underclock the thing making it or make more refineries for scrap

[tall lantern]

process it into the next step

[leaden turret]

engine bottleneck is typically CPU, but it depends on your build style.

big giant massive sprawling factories, your CPU / RAM will be an impediment.

small to moderate but highly detailed / customised factories, your GPU might be a more annoying impedement.

if in doubt, check in with people awake in #off-topic-tech for specifics

[sterile blade]

Depends on which is currently weaker. If they're the same, I'd say to choose based on wether you don't care about good visuals (which need good GPU) or you don't care about making huge factories (which need good CPU to run without lag)

[coral delta]

Is aluminium demand pretty high for the fifth tier? I'll just end up sinking it all otherwise

[tall lantern]

as always, depends on personal preferences (scale, alts), but it's still useful

why are you making it if you didn't have a plan for it?

[warm robin]

Well right now. I can;t even start a fresh world without jitters/lag and I’m on lowest settings

[coral delta]

I already have a steady supply of aluminium scrap and production halts whenever the Alumina buffer is full

I guess I'll just make more bars. Ty all 👍

[green fiber]

Have you updated graphics drivers recently?

[floral sparrow]

Is there a limit to how much power you can have running through a single grid? Can you have every machine in the world connected?

[warm robin]

Idk. I open the AMD app and it tells me there up to date

[green fiber]

No limit

[tall lantern]

as much as you want

[reef basin]

released yes
early access no (that ended a few years back)
experimental yes

[floral sparrow]

Thank you

[cunning glade]

Hard too know what too say without knowing ur specs

[leaden turret]

check cpu & gpu temps to see which thing is trying to cook an egg

[reef basin]

that depends which one is slowing you down at this moment

[cunning glade]

Pre built?

[feral jay]

Just brought 180/min AI Limiters online 😃

[warm robin]

Yeah. Only ever upgraded the ram

[cunning glade]

Yeah find system specs

Alot of the time they love too do super powerful CPU with weak ass GPU or other way around

[leaden turret]

(this is why I said #off-topic-tech cos once you start getting into needing to paste specs in it's either there or #1038092680493801533 😅)

[warm robin]

Yes thank you I will be moving there

[leaden turret]

benefit of that channel is embeds are enabled (last I checked)

[cunning glade]

God pre builts are so dumb

I get why they exist but it really isn't that hard too build one plus then troubleshooting them is easier

[supple canopy]

what chloe said, or make batteries with them to fuel drones

[supple canopy]

you mean fifth phase? In that case yes you should have an abundance of aluminum for convenience

[reef basin]

demand is as high as you make it

[cunning glade]

I mean I need some 12k aluminum ingots a min in phase 5

[floral sparrow]

How cursed would it be if conveyor belts and lifts required power?

[little cobalt]

experimental is just early access by another name. 1.2 is in that stage, and will probably be on the stable/standard version in a few months

[supple canopy]

I think max amount of aluminum (not counting SAM conversion) is 16 400? 12k would be for tremendous project, I bet you could finish the game making less than 1200 alum ingots/min

[reef basin]

no, since early access was always the main branch before 1.0 came out

[cunning glade]

Correct 16400 is how much I'm making total

And you could probably get away with a thousand but what's the fun in that

[fleet radish]

Could someone explain / help a noob to deal with train signals? 😄

[cunning glade]

So only one train can be in a block

[little cobalt]

potato potato

[cunning glade]

Blocks section off the rails into blocks hence the name that only one train can be in at a time path signals look ahead of the current block and make sure the next block is clear for the train too go thru iirc

[coarse perch]

Going crazy ... 1.2 is out and I have Sat on Epic (been on since U3). But due to housing issues (broken chair, bad back and playing on a laptop) I can only play games via Steam remote play 😿

[cunning glade]

That's my understanding I may be missing a thing or 2 don't think I am tho

[fleet radish]

My problem is "simple" I have a shared station and I want to ensure only one train occupy it at a time..

However, when I put Path Signal, it says it can't contains stations

[jagged nymph]

correct

they cannot

[reef basin]

you don't really need path signals unless optimising throughput

[tall lantern]

"only 1 train can be in this bit at a time" is precisely what a block signal does anyway

[fleet radish]

Yeah, but when I put "the start"/"the end" it does not work...

[tall lantern]

define "does not work"

you do need more than just two signals on a network though

[tall lodge]

A block signal in principle is marking a segment of track, if one train is in that segment the traffic light goes red and no other train can enter. That is all there is to it.

And if memory serves me correctly a path signal does the same thing but it does not only look at its own segment but also at the segment ahead of it.

[timid ledge]

I heard it is bad to pump fuel upside is this true i am new

[reef basin]

no, it's fine

[tall lodge]

Define "bad". It incurs the extra cost of using a pump so its not optimal but depending on the build it might be a necessity. It can cause specific issues if you do not know what you are doing because it can lead to input starving but it depends largely on your specific situation.

Almost nothing in Satisfactory is universally good or bad

[reef basin]

"cost of using a pump" is basically free

[normal orbit]

12?mw for a MK2 and 4mw for a MK1 I believe. Not exaktly big power spenders

[timid ledge]

Ya just got into fluids now and figure out my First cruid oil building sadly First oil is 1800m away.

[tall lodge]

pumps and water wells have some headlift built in I think 10 or 20 meters don't remember the exact value of the top of my head. But if you want a deep dive find the FICIST plumbers manual.

Its a player created resource that explains the fluid mechanics in great detail.

[normal orbit]

Machines have 10m. MK1 20m and MK2 50m

[timid ledge]

Already watched a video, for a building and the guy says i need come back every 40mins to Flush the System i try to understand why

[oblique aspen]

that sounds like a terrible design

[normal orbit]

What

[ornate saffron]

lkikely to rid the fluid as if it goes nowhere the machine shuts down

[normal orbit]

Sounds like they don't know anything

[sterile blade]

It doesn't feel very fair to judge the YouTuber's work based on how someone who never built a pipe recounts it 😅

[timid ledge]

I have no idea thats why i ask

[oblique aspen]

Oil is what will teach you about liquid byproducts and let you figure out how to deal with them - worst case you can always convert it into something solid and sink it, I assume on a first oil factory, its heavy oil residue, you can make that into coke and sink or burn it, or into fuel and put it into a generator

[west jackal]

sapphic or beef, either of you know the limit for truck transport?

can a truck handle 900/min?

[normal orbit]

...

[oblique aspen]

a truck station has two belt inputs, in theory it can handle those at maximum - what it really deends on is the path length and stack size of the item

[normal orbit]

depends on so many factor, distance being the largest one

[sterile blade]

TFW you know the answer, but are forbidden from answering xD

[west jackal]

#screenshots message the train would have been so much longer drive time

than a bridge straight across

[west jackal]

you know? spill da beans

[sterile blade]

Isn't distance just a matter of having enough trucks?

[normal orbit]

kinda, but there could become traffic issues

[sterile blade]

Fair point

[normal orbit]

just build it and check

[hollow ravine]

paths can't follow straight correctly a foundation that's not on the world grid...

[west jackal]

i was building rails, but i think the train is going to take MUCH longer

[sterile blade]

Since truck stations don't lock when vehicles are docking (as train stations do), there is no limit other than belts' speed, so long as enough trucks keep coming with items

[restive snow]

so if I have an infinitely long truck loop with an infinite number of trucks on it (but not more than can fit on the loop) I could have theoretically infinite throughput?

[west jackal]

theoretically belt limit throuput

[sterile blade]

On the loop, yes, up to the limit dictated by vehicle traffic

Same with rails

[west jackal]

Thank you Vecna

[little cobalt]

you're limited by station output. but you can always build more stations

[hollow ravine]

i dont think thats right no?

you are limited on belt speed anyways

[normal orbit]

not really

more stations = more belts

[sterile blade]

Yes, but if you think about how many resources are being moved through the whole system, it all adds up

[normal orbit]

its like the biggest misunderstanding with trains/trucks. people see belt in = belt out, and while yes, the amount is yes so the actual system have an incredible amount of thruput and you can just add onto it

[restive snow]

I assume this behavior extends to trains as well?

[normal orbit]

there is a limit, but i've had over 250 trains on a dual carriage track system without any significant issues

limits tend to become the intersections

[restive snow]

wow logistics in this game is fascinating

[west jackal]

NIGHTMARE, nightmare is the word you mean

[little cobalt]

logistics is the game :)

[west jackal]

i know.

[sterile blade]

Someone ran the numbers for some reasonable limits for a rail being used at its max throughput...

[west jackal]

fluids used to be so good though

pre stupid u3

[sterile blade]

I ended up spending over 1k hours focusing on just one aspect of logistics... These puzzles can be quite fun!

[west jackal]

they are fun.. untill you spend hours figuring out why one piece of the puzzle is breaking (but only when youre not watching it)

[sterile blade]

Meanwhile, on the opposite side of the spectrum: "So, I finally got the teleporter mod..."

[little cobalt]

it's been a lot of fun trying to build factories that are truly modular and expandable so they can grow with my belt speed

[west jackal]

for the most part if you remember that fpahp then your fine

[sterile blade]

That can be part of the fun. It's all preference :P

[restive snow]

I'm still learning belt systems (specifically learning how to use a main bus instead of having a bunch of random spaghetti going between and around production floors) but I do wanna get really cool train setups too.

[west jackal]

i try to avoid that actually, but there are some things, like my 12300 bauxite factory is kinda reliant on mk6 belts, but im still early t7 technically so im not getting those anytime soon

[little cobalt]

my #1 advice for belts is unlock the throughput monitor as soon as you start building big and slap those down all over the place

[west jackal]

i know, but the factory is designed for 1200/min belts, im hacking together 780 max speed belts and dealing with the consequences

[valid glade]

actual w advice

[west jackal]

for example, i built a custom manifold load balancer? i guess? that splittes 3 uneven inputs into 2 x600 belts using priority mergers and smart splitters

[little cobalt]

oh that message was meant for kamelot. i feel you on aluminum- i usually just under/overclock alum production to handle growth

[west jackal]

not a bad idea, but would be a lot of clocking since im processing all the worlds aluminum

[little cobalt]

that is out of my pay grade 😅
the most i've ever built in 1 factory is 1200/m bauxite split into two sets of refineries

[west jackal]

i have it broken up into chunks that take 600 (and one that takes 300) and am using sloppy electrode, so after fidgeting with clocking, uses recycled water to power 2 of the sloppies and the 3rd sloppy is on frehs

[little cobalt]

sounds like fun :)
in my first alum factory i successfully recycled the wastewater into its own input using an elevated water buffer

in the second, much larger one i took the easy way out and sent it all to wet concrete

[reef basin]

#2 would be "don't trust throughput monitor"

[little cobalt]

i haven't had any problems with them, wdym?

[sterile blade]

Power graph & machines' lights > UIs' efficiency meters & throughput monitors

[coral garden]

yo guys i have a question i just started a world yesterday and i saw the stuff about the 1.2 update and i just want to know if when 1.2 comes out fully if i will get all the new stuff or if i will have to remake my world?

[reef basin]

they measure running average, which by definition is not always accurate, especially in burst-like production

also, no reason to measure throughput on a belt, since we don't have variable production

[little cobalt]

you can E them to see the live graph

[reef basin]

which is still the same running average

[little cobalt]

i am not sure that's true. i have 480/m average saturated steel belts with spikes and valleys on the graph

[reef basin]

there's nothing like "instant throughput". You have to measure over some period of time

so it has no other choice than being running average

[little cobalt]

right- the displayed number is 1 minute running avg. the graph uses a smaller interval

[reef basin]

smaller interval is even worse

doesn't give anything relevant for most productions

[little cobalt]

🤷‍♀️ you don't have to use them but i find them helpful personally

[sterile blade]

Eg: vehicles can easily deliver items in intervals longer than 1 minute

[reef basin]

like if you want to know how much you have on the belt, you sum production of machines that output to that belt

[sterile blade]

Which can be annoying to do, though, so slapping down a monitor to check later can be handier...

[little cobalt]

yeah that works fine. it is comfier to see it in one place instead imo

[reef basin]

the other thing is that you rarely need to know how much is on the belt, as the only time you're worried about that is when you're building the factory, at which point you already know how much is there because... you're building it, so you have to plan it 🙂

[valid glade]

why are you tripping over someone using an item that’s in the game bruh 😭 😭 🙏

[reef basin]

I'm just saying they are very much overrated and not even accurate enough to be of an use imo

[valid glade]

yeah but it’s just an opinionated thing and it seems like you’re judging them for using it, i say it’s a game and every game can be played the way that the player wants to play

which it also did seem like you were just trying to help but it came off a bit mean a teeny bit

[reef basin]

I know tone is hard to convey over text, but you may be confusing my "direct" approach with "mean"

[valid glade]

yeah my fault

i apologize 🙏

[wise junco]

Greeny comes across very direct but doesnt mean any ill will

[valid glade]

yes i notice after rereading now

[sterile blade]

I mean... I agree with you 🤷‍♂️

Wording like "no reason to do X", where X is someone's just stated preference, isn't quite the least mean way to convey a point

[valid glade]

i do agree with that

[little cobalt]

if you have the whole factory already planned out then yeah there's not much benefit. i usually don't do that, i build as i go

[valid glade]

i do that too unless i go to rebuild a factory

[reef basin]

not about "whole factory". Just the small piece you're building at the time

[little cobalt]

i don't wanna argue with you lol i understand preferring to math everything out and evolving past the benefit of the monitors

[feral jay]

I use the monitors all the time now

[ornate saffron]

Monitors are fine just keep in mind they are not a precision tool.

[sterile blade]

The day they'll add a "sushi monitor", I'll be spamming those all over the place~

[jagged nymph]

what would a sushi monitor do

tell you how much sushi a lizard doggo can eat in 4.5 minutes?

[little cobalt]

they were helpful for understanding my different production lines consumption of 2 separate belts of ingots downstairs recently. made it simple to smart split and prio merge :)
https://i.imgur.com/Tuk6BJl.jpeg

[jagged nymph]

you could split the sushi belt into lines of each item, put a monitor on each one, and then remerge them

[ornate saffron]

if doggo means USBeefalo then yes.

i can eat all teh ssushi

[jagged nymph]

whos USBeelao

[feral jay]

You could also build priority mergers before we had a ploppable, they just took up more room

[ornate saffron]

to tired X?

[jagged nymph]

who USBeefao

[ornate saffron]

omg lol\

[jagged nymph]

oohhh USBeefalo

[sterile blade]

I thought of doing that even before Monitors were a thing, using belts of different MKs to give a rough idea of the throughput on each belt but...
I tend to use a lot of sushi, so that's just impractical 😅 (though it can look quite cool in some places)

[jagged nymph]

i have never once used a sushi belt

cause ttheyh could cause c9issues

[sterile blade]

You're missing out :P
||This is a joke, it obviously depends on your logistical preferences wether you actually might be or not||

[jagged nymph]

and i dont commonly have multiple belts of low throughput items next to eachother going in the same direction

[little cobalt]

if you follow all the rules sushi works perfectly

learning the rules is the fun part

[jagged nymph]

or i can just run a few extra belts

[valid glade]

sushi is fine i just like the way it looks when everything has its own belt 😻

[crimson robin]

worth getting game if i get 58-60fps with worst graphics 720p at tutorial?

[valid glade]

probably not i’d say

might crash late game

[jagged nymph]

wait till you upgrade, you will be running at like 5 fps by lategame

[crimson robin]

i downloaded and loaded 3k hrs megabase save and had like 15 fps

but it had a lot of glass

A LOT

[sterile blade]

... We don't know how much you can tolerate (or not) bad graphics or bad FPS 😅

[valid glade]

i mean if that’s something that you want to experience then go for it

it’s a fantastic game

[little cobalt]

3k hour megabases are not the typical experience fwiw

[cloud halo]

Satisfactory updated before deepwoken

Thats crazy.

[wise junco]

👋

[crimson robin]

xd OFCOURSE NOT

but i really want to enjoy this game and idk playing with three pixels seems like a bad idea. i come from factorio tho

[little cobalt]

you can beat the game in less than 150 hours playing casually

[cloud halo]

Satisfactory is fun imo

[jagged nymph]

my favorite ai chatbot website is youraislopbores.me you guys should check it out

[sterile blade]

Maybe they're a 10k-hours-per-save minercraft player

[heavy oxide]

Who else uses the nukes to clear forests

[jagged nymph]

everyone]

[sterile blade]

Advertisement is a bannable offense

[unkempt blade]

yeah well claude did my taxes while I played with factory carts

[jagged nymph]

its not advertisement

its a website i find funny

[wise junco]

is Claude keto friendly?

[unkempt blade]

I think so. It depends how they trained it I guess

[sterile blade]

I was joking. But only in part

[junior marsh]

Watch me spending that amount of time trying to figure out manifolds. Can't wrap my head around it yet, but I'm also only like 20hrs into the game with 5 of them today trying to get back into the mechanics after a 6month break

[cloud halo]

isn't it
youraislopbores(dot)me

[valid glade]

it’s okay you’ll be pro in no time

[jagged nymph]

it infact is

[cloud halo]

Smh...

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you

[sterile blade]

Ahah, I love that people on opposite sides of such preferences can enjoy the very same game (I prefer to have as many items on one belt as possible)

[glacial solstice]

Hello, where can I send bug reports? In this server or somewhere else?

[jagged nymph]

website

[crimson robin]

so guys you think i shouldnt get game right? i doubt ill enjoy 15 fps at the late game and im the guy who plays one save for a good amount of time

[glacial solstice]

Can you link it rq?

[jagged nymph]

idk the exact link

[glacial solstice]

15 fps from too much factory is a mood

[sterile blade]

You can find the link to the feedback site on the main menu of the game or #welcome

[glacial solstice]

Never reached it

[glacial solstice]

I see, thanks

[cyan leaf]

For pure ingot recipes do i need to wait till i get the oil processor thingie? (That machine that can accept both liquids and soild crafting comps)

[crimson robin]

i believe ill gett to a point where ill have 30 fps, tilt over it and drop game

brother if i have 60fps at the tutorial at 720p XD

[unkempt blade]

you could just build the least factory possible while still automating stuff and beat the game on relatively high fps in like 2 years

[glacial solstice]

Oof

[jagged nymph]

no you can poor a watering can onto a smelter

[jagged nymph]

the whole game is the tutorial

[crimson robin]

wdym tho

[sterile blade]

There was an annoying time when such alts were aviable as soon as one unlocked water (ie: all input items for the recipe)... That was quite confusing on new players

[crimson robin]

i wish it was in terms of fps.. would get it with no back thought

[unkempt blade]

instead of making all the [insert item type] you make exactly one machine producting it

[jagged nymph]

i mean it just is, its a continuous tutorial that keeps teaching you stuff

[valid glade]

hahahaha i mean i definitely could see it being useful in certain scenarios but something is so satisfying about having tons of conveyors all close together full of items 😻

[crimson robin]

isnt that no effective at all

[unkempt blade]

that's why it'll take you 2 years

[crimson robin]

nah thanks you

so guys ccan i get more opinions please

[floral sparrow]

Is it possible to zoop on multiple axes at once? To create whole foundation floors and walls, etc.

[unkempt blade]

I'd just take a look at the minimum requirements and see how far off you are

[sterile blade]

Ofc! 😁
But in my head, my obsession goes like: that's a lot of items, but those empty spaces on the belts feel wasteful!

[fickle oriole]

dang, not only does the new version have rain, it also has rainbows! Kudos CSS
#screenshots message

[crimson robin]

bro i already did fps test ingame and told you what i get, 720p worst quality tutorial at first location (first from four you pick), 60 fps it seems/ 3k hours megabase save - 15 fps, but it has A LOT of glass

[jagged nymph]

And lightning

And wind

[valid glade]

bro.. at the end of the day it just depends on if you want to deal with it or not

[crimson robin]

@unkempt blade so what do you say

[valid glade]

it’s not gonna be a fantastic playing experience but it’s just up to you to decide yourself

[unkempt blade]

you didn't like my suggestion already 🙂

[crimson robin]

i meant i wanna know if graphics are gonna matter much for overall enjoyment, cuz game seems to have big accent on graphics and beauty of your growing factory

[crimson robin]

thats why im askin for your opinion with no jokes

[sterile blade]

Wether it's "fantastic" or "horrible" is purely subjective... And only "you" know "yourself"...

[unkempt blade]

it wasn't really a joke, it sounds like you might be playing on a pizza box wrapped in aluminum foil

[crimson robin]

i play on igpu xd, what do you want. But i beat ER and bg3 on it soo..

[wise junco]

i mean.. you could just turn down the graphics? or only turn them up when you want to admire? idk

[crimson robin]

i said my fps with graphics turned as down as possible

[sterile blade]

So why not base your judgement off those experiences...?
We do not know how "painful" those performances were (or weren't) for you

[unkempt blade]

igpu is probably below the minimum recommended specs

do with that what you will

[crimson robin]

i loved those games but have only played them for 100 hrs despite being a soulsfan. and i dont know if it was because of the how bad graphics were that i had to deal with. Loved game but didnt want to replay them or play more cuz like idk, maybe for me it feels too trash-looking with those graphics, on other hand, im not sure myself if its related to graphics..

[sterile blade]

Hell, I personally think the game's minimum requirements are too low and yet I'm often the first to slap highest settings despite the framerate...

[sterile blade]

Objectively speaking, factory games suffer less from low FPS than RPGs or FPS games because making factories doesn't require you to react to stuff quickly...
But on the side of how things look, that's purely personal preference 🤷‍♂️

Eg: I don't like low graphics, but I can tolerate low FPS, so I accept the tradeoff and am happy with the result

[wild hollow]

Anyone here use trucks? I'm really trying to figure out how to make a two-lane highway with minimal risks of colliding, and with collision tolerance.

I'm thinking on-ramps and slowly merging is probably good, but how far ahead do trucks on the highway actually look when deciding whether to slow down?

[random haven]

I really wish there was a way for us to move stuff without dismantling t.t

[wild hollow]

Yeah that would be cool. Or select structures in the same way you select when dismantling and copy and paste, or heck, even blueprinting the selected parts.

[ivory condor]

Im often cpu bottlenecked regardless. So i play on high graphics because it makes no real difference

[leaden turret]

1. play satisfactory
2. pick up monitor
3. move monitor

you have moved your factory without dismantling it

[wise junco]

#screenshots message unplayable

[ivory condor]

There is ways, scim, mods, etc

[leaden turret]

ventilated factory

[normal orbit]

scim does that, lasso select what you wanna move and move it

[honest thorn]

Hi guys ! Im kinda a beginner on this game and i would like to know how do you use trains to get ressources in your factory like how do you import 300 per min of an item which is far away so you only get it like every 2 or 3 min so how do you balance that sry for bad english i hope this is understandable

[coral marsh]

@elfin spindle heyo its me Nikolai, from reddit

[sinful bobcat]

[feral jay]

Use longer trains

[sinful bobcat]

20 car train

[honest thorn]

So you just import more than needed ?

[restive snow]

no, you import what is needed. more will create a clog

[feral jay]

The station platforms will also tell you how much per minute they moved on the last load/unload

[sinful bobcat]

This is a bell curve meme in real time
.

[honest thorn]

But lets imagine i produce 500 per min 3 min away from my factory where i need 500 per min, then i wont get enough right ?

[restive snow]

no. the train stations fill up while the train is away, so the train will always carry enough, as long as the input (what you have) and output (what you need) are the same

[sinful bobcat]

You only really need to overproduce if you are working with numbers bigger than 720, or they are uneven just round up

[formal trellis]

The controller and keyboard experimental button is gone with the latest update? Was this intended?

[sinful bobcat]

And only if it’s indirect input with a vehicle

[honest thorn]

Damn im dumb

Thanks for helping me guys

[sinful bobcat]

Just calculate travel time to know how much you can transfer per min

Than just add more car if needed

[honest thorn]

Okk ty

[fluid sapphire]

Pretty sure the intent is to make the switch automatic dependent on what input you use

[sinful bobcat]

If your rail is flat-ish and your locomotive to car ratio is 1:4 1/3 of the map is 400 items per minute

Per car

[fluid sapphire]

Not that simple

[formal trellis]

That's how it was before this latest hotfix. With initial 1.2 experimental it worked good but now not at all. At least for me maybe my game was bugged

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, don't know, it is experimental after all, just what I remember reading from the notes

[sinful bobcat]

Train go boom

[cyan leaf]

Whats the purpose of using switches?

[sinful bobcat]

What kind of switches

[dense violet]

power switches? you can turn off a section of machines

[sinful bobcat]

Train switches?

[cyan leaf]

Really that it 😭

[restive snow]

well yes that's what they're for

[fluid sapphire]

You can use them to divide a large power grid into smaller ones

[dense violet]

what were you expecting? basically a light switch

[cyan leaf]

Lol idk something more interesting then a normal switch 😅

[sinful bobcat]

What does a circuit breaker do homi

[fluid sapphire]

I have a couple factories that are connected with a switch to two things: the external power grid and an internal battery. I can turn off the external grid to check if my machines are running at 100% without anything outside of this subsystem affecting it

[dense violet]

priority switches do more?
but a switch is a switch

[fluid sapphire]

It's also just fun to build everything out, and then finally hit the switch and watch everything come to life

It's like a ceremonial moment

[sinful bobcat]

[restive snow]

any dos and don'ts of having a main bus in a factory? or it it just big line of conveyors.

[dense violet]

mostly 'don't do busses'

they don't work well in this game

[restive snow]

ah

[dense violet]

everything is static unlike other games
You always know what you're producing and what will get consumed per min so no variables
belt throughput is actually fairly low for recipe requirements so you often need multiple belts of an item for 1 modest factory fed to dedicated systems

you also never run out of resources

so doing 'busses' takes up a lot more space and work in the end , for no real benefit

Now if you find them fun? yeah sure do it. Not like your game will explode

[sinful bobcat]

Reject buss, embrace logistics floor

[cyan leaf]

Why is coke steel ingot better then solid?

[dense violet]

is it better?

[pure condor]

why arent the pipes coming out of my refinery carrying the turbo fuel??

the turbo fuel is just getting backed up and not going through the pipes

[dense violet]

who suggested it was?

[dense violet]

likely your pipe layouts. show some overhead shots of what you're doing in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

[sinful bobcat]

Uh idk the math on things other than solid steel

[pure condor]

oh god its really bad

[dense violet]

I think you answered your own question here

[sinful bobcat]

I think anything other than solid is bad because it’s less efficient or uses more valuable resources (bla bla resource scoring)

[dense violet]

pipes aren't belts, if you treat them poorly they'll treat you right back

[cyan leaf]

Idk some reddit post saying it is 😭

[pure condor]

OH its because one of the pipes had normal fuel in it

[dense violet]

it's almost like reddit recipe tier posts are stupid.

[dense violet]

you cannot realistically compare
Solid Steel and Coke Steel in a vacuum

[cyan leaf]

Fair but like im just seeing what to hunt for as how limited these drives are 😭

[restive snow]

what constitutes treating a pipe poorly?

[dense violet]

you can unlock everything single recipe in the game with the hard drives available

[sinful bobcat]

Don’t beat your pipe

[dense violet]

that answer is both complicated and simple
mostly sending pipes from A to B w/o branches, keeping the manifolds flat, avoiding buffers and valves

keeping them tidy is important

[dense violet]

you can, and should, unlock all the recipes

[cyan leaf]

Ohhh

[tall lodge]

I dont think the game even lets you "waste" any harddrive.

[crimson robin]

So guys I tried satisfactory and figured that I don’t like it although I love factorio.. how could it be?

[sinful bobcat]

There is like 10 extra or something in the case of lost

[dense violet]

you can throw hard drives into the void?

[sinful bobcat]

Technically yeah

[dense violet]

they are completely different in design.
I don't like factorio at all

[restive snow]

the objective of satisfactory not to complete project assembly but to run around on a mad hunt for hard drives

[tall lodge]

I meant more inside the mam

[dense violet]

satisfactory is more like minecraft than factorio

[crimson robin]

Seems to me that design is issue. I don’t like those big buildings in satisf and early game is so boring for me compared to factorio

[sinful bobcat]

Factorio is a better factory game

Satisfactory is a better design game

[cyan leaf]

Ohh for the power required downed rhingies are batteries enough to power em or do I have to hunt for super sloops and get that unlimited fueled generator?

[restive snow]

which is odd to me because to my knowledge factorio was born from minecraft tech mods

[dense violet]

tiers 1-9 are a tutorial shrug
the game starts after phase 5 and you get creative with your own designs
like minecraft

[tall lodge]

Satisfactory is fundamentally different then Factorio. Later in the game its ot just scale but veers a lot into architecture.

[dense violet]

there's some transferable logic skills sure

[tall lodge]

Wheras Factorio is tightly around scaling up near infinitely Satisfactory scales in different ways. Different games for different gameplay loops.

[sinful bobcat]

If you can do basic math you are fine in both games

[tall lodge]

I love both, for different reasons.

[crimson robin]

Yep, fr. Factorio is more complex in terms of logistics while satisf is more about visual

[potent marlin]

Hello? Am I in the right Place?

[restive snow]

right place for what

[dense violet]

nah it's design choices and creativity in what paths you design

[pure condor]

hi

[dense violet]

theres' basically infinite ways to get to a product goal

[tall lodge]

Satisfactory in tiers above 6 can quite complex as well, just in different ways.

[sinful bobcat]

No helldiver go back to the armory… we are waiting.

[dense violet]

and no right way to do it

[crimson robin]

what I meant to say is one of aspects of satisf is visual design and architecture

[dense violet]

oh that can be very true, but yo ucan totally ignore that too and focus on different logistical and production methods

[tall lodge]

Yeah for sure. That is something Factorio can not provide at the same scale, and that is by design because they have a different core goal.

[dense violet]

with all the alt recipes , locations and tranpsort methods you can create you're own unique methods

[tall lodge]

What is the decider for me though is alt recipes, in Factorio you need mods for that kind of thing or well needed to until space age although the alt recipes are just outright better ones in Factorio and less about different processes.

[dense violet]

hell, I've got a factory making 1800 HMF half designed I really want to get into at some point

[crimson robin]

Maybe that’s why I loved factorio more, you have everything at hand and also the 2d makes it more simple for me to understand and see everything and not get overwhelmed

[digital whale]

first time playing with random nodes and already got space elevator build and already making the smart plating

[tall lodge]

To give you a bit of an idea from where I am coming from I actually have more hours in Factorio then Satisfactory. I am the kind of masochist who finished seablock.

[dense violet]

the overwhelmed bit mostly comes from organisation.
keep notes on what factories do, make plans and save the links in satisfactorytools ect ect

[tall lodge]

Steams says I have 1082.7 hours in Factorio, and 560.8 in Satisfactory.

[leaden turret]

quality over quantity

[cyan leaf]

Lol the factory must growew

[tall lodge]

As said I enjoy both games for different reasons 🙂

Factorio for me is mostly about sheer scale. If you need more, just slap down a blueprint to get more its a whole different rhythm of play wheras in Satisfactory I can "waste" 20 hours to make my screw factory look pretty.

[rough shore]

screw factory 🤮

❌

[tall lodge]

Was my first beauty build I ever did thats why it is in memory.

[leaden turret]

satisfactory has more scale.

can build up

[wise junco]

screws = yum

[rough shore]

factorio can build horizontally for basically infinity 🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

it has to.

because it can't build up

[tall lodge]

You still can't build six million assemblers or such in Satisfactory wheras in Factorio you can. Not a dig against Satisfactory to be clear. Scale is still bigger in Factorio especially with Space Age.

[rough shore]

still means technically more space

[sinful bobcat]

Satisfactory had 3 dimensions which is pretty cool

[rough shore]

had?

[sinful bobcat]

Had? Had. Satisfactory is no more

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/dated/2026-03-17/#byt-HHBFMoNs7xY_40_59_1

[leaden turret]

cough @grave burrow cough

[tall lodge]

Not sure what you are trying to say with that, iirc UE5 has a 2.1 million entity limit still no?

I know you can circumvent that to a degree but it supposedly gets rather unreliable unless that has since been fixed.

[leaden turret]

andrew probably knows how many assemblers you can build 😛

[tall lodge]

I mean it is a safe assumption that each machine is at least one Uobject.

To be clear I am not denying that you can make gigantic factories in Satisfactory far from it. There are plenty examples of that.

I am just saying that Satisfactory has a ceiling that is by its constraints lower then Factorios, which is not meaning to imply Factorio is better. Its just different.

In fact I would even argue that in terms of Industrial design Satisfactory easily takes the cake.

[south sinew]

the number of object limitations is way less important than the fact that Satisfactory lacks any decent bulk construction mechanics

you can have all the resources in the world and still be super hard capped in how fast you can spend them

[tall lodge]

I mean it becomes a problem if you are really really deep in endgame. I bumped against it on my early access save.

Especially if you decorate a lot.

[rough shore]

procedurally generated space age

[cyan leaf]

Ohh that be cool dlc for statiafactory being able to use whatever the heck you did for the space elevator and use it as a starting point tk build in space

[humble osprey]

Trains are amazinf

I got a mod that makes them 5x faster and I CANNOT play the game without the mod

[tall lantern]

sounds less like trains are amazing and more like modded trains are amazing

[feral vector]

pretty sure I'll think trains are amazing when I unlock them lol

I'm already pleasantly surprised by the trucks

[rough shore]

just add 5 more trains fr

also why not make them 100x faster why 5 only

[humble osprey]

It's not about the efficiency, Pengmer.... It's about sending a message...

[feral vector]

solid steel ingot sure is a nice alt recipe, I set up a 240 belt of incoming iron ingots and coal and have 6 foundries running and idk what to even do with all the steel ingots lol

[humble osprey]

Convert them to beams and sink

[feral vector]

figured I might as well use a full belt for once

[feral vector]

that's a good idea until I figure out what I need for the next tier of stuff

[humble osprey]

The mod goes only upto 5

[rough shore]

thats really lame

factory cart shaped trains when

[feral vector]

I've just been fixing up my shitty factory lol I finally got some storage with overflow to a sink setup, just for the 3 copper things but it's nice so far

[cyan leaf]

Orrr hunt for tue steel rotor alt and make em

[humble osprey]

I didn't get the mod cuz I was lacking in thruput, I got the mod cuz I love the speed

Watching them wizz by is the best feeling ever

[cyan leaf]

That what she said

[feral vector]

hmm one big container of steel pipes and two of steel beams enough to keep? figure I want lots of beams in case I wanna do some big ass belts before I get trains

[cyan leaf]

Keep alot of beams then pipes as beams are used for mk 3 belts o believe from memory

[feral vector]

yeah mk3 are my fastest belts and they use steel beams

maybe I'll keep 3 containers 😛

I have so many extra lying around in random containers my factory is such a shit show

[tranquil bolt]

No. You need way more for end game

Way way way way more than youd ever think

[feral vector]

I figure I'll make those in production chains though not out of containers

just need some for belts rn?

[tranquil bolt]

Youll need a stock pile

[feral vector]

of beams? how many containers you figure lol

[tranquil bolt]

🤷‍♂️ i have a giant ware house i call “the store”. Its 5-8 containers full of everything ive made thru every phase and in phase 5, ive run it dry

And im no where near finishing phase 5. Let alone having the power grid for it

[dense violet]

just keep a couple containers of everything on hand and then don't worry about it

[rough shore]

if u got it automated just put storage of it before a sink

[tranquil bolt]

If i could go back in time, id have built everything to run 1000 pieces a minuet

[rough shore]

why 1k

[dense violet]

that would become unlikely very quickly past the first couple steps

[tranquil bolt]

Because im running out of literally everything

[late shuttle]

Where should I go for my first play through

[rough shore]

wherever the nodes are

[dense violet]

grassy fields is extremely chill

[tranquil bolt]

It doesnt matter. The maps are all the same

[dense violet]

as it explains in the options

[rough shore]

yeah but still

[tranquil bolt]

I started in the grassy fields. Wish i started in the desert

[dense violet]

they are very similar

[wise junco]

y'all ever hop in a train and just automate it to where you want to go and disassemble it after you made it? XD

[tranquil bolt]

But it doesnt matter any more. Because youll end up moving where you needa be

[dense violet]

main difference is caterium is further in the dune desert but crystal is a bit easier

[rough shore]

why

[dense violet]

cause it'll block the rail if you leave it?

[wise junco]

across map, don't want to build hypertubes, not my thing

[rough shore]

power towers fr

[tranquil bolt]

Hyper tunes too in efficient. Teleporters are where its at

[rough shore]

or just use a factory cart highway

[wise junco]

i used to love power towers, but... a few clicks and i can just watch the scenery

#screenshots message i mean... beautiful

[west jackal]

Just uh.. have factories producing it?

[rough shore]

cant be that hard right?

[west jackal]

Unless youre hand crafting everything then you uh... dont need that much

[rough shore]

its just a row of foundries and constructors

[feral vector]

hmm ok I was just doing one of everything except maybe concrete and whatever I use for my current belts

[west jackal]

I mean, I just do 1 isc for everything as a buffer into dim depot

Never had an issue. The only thing you might want more of is concrete

[dense violet]

benefit of keeping large containers of everything, you can quickly slap together new items to be made when you unlock them and feed them from the bins, everything eventually backs up anywya that way

[feral vector]

yeah I gotta explore more I need SAM

I found some but it's so high up I'd need to run a hell of a belt to get it back to my factory lol

I might process some of it there and try to belt it down to a spot that a truck can grab it?

I don't have a ton of mercer spheres either I'm really slacking on exploring cause I'm always tinkering with something in my factory

[wise junco]

n e e d m e r c e r s p h e r e s

[cunning glade]

Water extractor MK2 would be nice

Tbh

[next ivy]

pipeline mk4
takes up 2x more space than normal ppipe

[cunning glade]

Or a large pipe could be cool too

Either one would be nice

[fluid sapphire]

primary method of travel rn

[cunning glade]

Yes also peak pfp

I love alastor

[wise junco]

thank you!!!!

[cunning glade]

You're welcome:)

My friend is finally back from South Carolina peak

[west jackal]

Hoverpack mk2

[cunning glade]

It's time too not only keep working on our current save

[cunning glade]

Nah if anything get the hoverpack configurator mod

The issue I have with the MK2 hoverpack is if u extend the range of the hoverpack anymore or too much it causes so much lag it's unbearable

[west jackal]

Probably will, I think ill get curve, inf nudge, and constant feed mod next playthrough

[west jackal]

Nah I want speed not range

[cunning glade]

Inf nudge and zoop should be this playthrough

[cunning glade]

Well the current MK2 jetpack increases its range too much

That I have

[west jackal]

Wdym mk2 jetpack

Oh, some mod? I meant an official mk2 hoverpack

[cunning glade]

Oh yeah also there's a nuclear jetpack very hyped for that

[cunning glade]

Yes both of them are and ik

I'm just saying if they were too follow and increase the range u get some bad lag so hopefully they don't also stock is fine tbh

[west jackal]

Stock is so slow flying around big factories though

[cunning glade]

So use jetpack then

Hoverpack is meant for building

And it's pretty much perfect as is for that

[west jackal]

Well if it was easier to swap between jet and hover then maybe?

[cunning glade]

its so easy what

takes maybe 5 seconds

[drowsy kelp]

It needs the mouse tho

Making it less reliable and easier to mess up in a hurry

[cunning glade]

u can shift click it off and on no?

it takes 5 seconds like

[drowsy kelp]

You need to move the mouse to click it

[little timber]

@cunning glade nice pfp

[cunning glade]

ty

[little timber]

Lil darkie

[drowsy kelp]

(Does anyone not shift-click everything?)

[little timber]

Tmr i would need help with plumbing

[balmy willow]

just slide jump bro thats what i do

[proven snow]

Some people probably don’t

[spiral stratus]

I'm just starting out and I already feel time slipping by

[feral jay]

That's life, in a nutshell

[little cobalt]

you can just tab > press keyboard shortcut. like 1 if it's the first item listed at the top

[feral jay]

I do wish those keyboard shortcuts would remain the same, so tab then 2 was always jetpack and 3 was always parachiute, it sucks to have to figure that out while you're going ballistic

There's probably a mod for that though

[little cobalt]

i just keep equipment i'm not using in the depot so there's only 1 option

[rough shore]

guys guys guys what color are we using for the pioneer

[next ivy]

black

[feral jay]

Newp, as soon as I collect or use all the berries or nuts in my inventory, the slot changes

[rough shore]

nah all white >

[little cobalt]

ah fair enough. i tend to swap between jetpack and hoverpack when i'm working near my factory. usually consumable collecting happens when i'm out exploring and sticking to the jetpack

[feral jay]

This might solve my complaint https://ficsit.app/mod/HotswapEquipment

[little cobalt]

blessed modders 🙏

[plush trellis]

Yawn.

[torpid wing]

i am back on satisfactory grind
well ill be back once 1.2 goes stable
my first factory was on 1.0 and took me 200 hours

[void cliff]

This game is so addictive and I love it…. 1.2 is shaping up to be pretty awesome, so far

[little cobalt]

daisy chaining and control of world resource nodes is amazing. i'm having a great time on my second "proper" playthrough on exp

[feral jay]

I haven't tried exp yet, I'm waiting on mods to work again, I like my QoL mods sooo much

[jovial ingot]

Really addictive game, I love it!!. im playing on 1.2 and I like the vehicle paths. I hope there's a toggler in map where I can see my builds just like the interactive map in satisfactory calculator

[feral jay]

Although I'm not sure I'll really like the new resource randmization, it's too random I think. I like the way you need to plan and the way you end up with "resource hubs" the way it is now, with certain resources clustered, like oil on the islands and spire coast, and bauxite all in a band in the centre of the map

[little cobalt]

i think on average it makes the game quite a bit easier, yeah. i wouldn't recommend for a first playthrough

[wise junco]

Oops! All Uranium

[feral jay]

New mode: nothing but iron ore and SAM but converters are unlocked early

[void cliff]

I don’t really like it, myself. It seems kind of silly like you’ll have uranium, oil, and quartz in the starting areas all right next to each other.

[little cobalt]

i think silly is kinda the point. it makes a lot of sense to prefer the hand-crafted map the way it was intended :)

[jagged nymph]

they would have to draw less power for that to work in a reasonable way without clocking to like 5 percent

[dense violet]

control of resource nodes?

[little cobalt]

still, nice to have options to change node purity, recipe & spelevator costs, and electricity imo

[feral jay]

Early game, you'd only need 5 percent

[sullen gull]

I haven't played 1.2 either, and the bauxite not being along the center would be a a tad annoying.

[jagged nymph]

i mean yeah ig

[dense violet]

oh the node manipulation thing , he

[olive summit]

is there any way to see how long a train will take to reach a station?

[feral jay]

Nope, I use a literal stopwatch

[proven snow]

Not a huge fan of how it discourages exploration because you'll have caterium, quartz, sulfur, coal, SAM, etc. right next to you when you spawn

But I'm a fan of how it encourages exploration and logistics (especially paired with other modifiers) by not having 4 coal nodes right next to each other by the ocean, but by having them spread out so you have to transport stuff

[dense violet]

time it

[olive summit]

aight

[feral jay]

The station platforms do tell you how much per minute moved as of the last load/unload, though

haha there's a mod idea, a watch as hand equipment, with a stopwatch and countdown timer function, a good ole' Timex Ironman

[jagged nymph]

a

[jagged nymph]

orrrr one that just tells you train times

[dense violet]

you really don't want to rely on the moved per min on stations

[elfin smelt]

even if you knew it it won't be constant time since it depends on the amount of trains waiting on the signals

[feral jay]

My watch mod is cooler tho

[dense violet]

yup, that's why you want to give yourself a solid buffer

[feral jay]

And on how heavy the trains are, if they're not always full

[little cobalt]

there's only 19 nodes of SAM on the map so you need to be a little lucky to find it before exploring / setting up radar. everything else i agree though

[dense violet]

sam is totally not needed until tier 9 though, doesn't lock you out of progressing

[proven snow]

idk I've come across like 1-3 or so nodes before finding a lil nice spot with iron and copper to settle on my 3 playthroughs so far

[little cobalt]

i would rather build a screw factory than wait until t9 to access sloops/spheres personally

[dense violet]

semi creative mode mechanics are just kinda dull. And sounds like you need to learn how to manage screws if you have that much screw prejudice

[feral jay]

I have screw prejudice

But I reserve most of that prejudice for quickwire

[olive summit]

whats a good tier to start a mega factory?

[dense violet]

depends what you mean by mega.
in general? probably never.
Huge projects in one location tend to put strain on your computer a lot and if you don't plan from a very specific end point it'll likely end up a mess

so if you don't want a mess, probalby unlock everythign and create an overall plan post phase 5

if you don't care about a mess? just slap things together as needed

[feral jay]

I don't think I'll ever understand people's fascinations with megafactories

[dense violet]

they think if you want to do a big thing it has to be in one spot

[little cobalt]

T5 belts are really good but you could start as low as T3 belts with plans to expand

[olive summit]

i dont have a fascination about it i just dont like going to different location for my stuff

[dense violet]

so if you don't mind a mess just link up things by belt and go.

[olive summit]

well im just about to unlock trains

[feral jay]

But it is in one spot, Massage-2(A-B)b

[dense violet]

relativity is a bitch

[cyan leaf]

For the alien power augment is it worth making one early game?

[feral jay]

Yeah, and dude didn't even win the Nobel prize for relativity

[dense violet]

if you like duping power? sure

[olive summit]

you can dupe power?

[dense violet]

all sloops do is dupe things
ask yourself - 'do I want this dupped?'
if yes? yes

[dense violet]

yes, it's very silly especially with how easy power is

[feral jay]

Sloops are really just a shortcut the game provides, they do come in useful but I rarely use them

[wise junco]

I safeguard them a little too close

[feral jay]

For power, I just build more

[wispy tundra]

guys, quick question, does anyone know how many meters is the radius of a truck station? as in, at how close they start picking up stuff?
I'm trying to do a dock with several, but I'm trying to understand how far from the road should I make them so trucks only veer towards the correct one

[olive summit]

bro like 25-50 percent of the game is managing power, in my opinion if you cant manage power in a factory game go play minecraft

[dense violet]

if it's not in the wiki you'll have to do science
or keep stations parallel, not in series

[dense violet]

... is it? you build a nice power station that gives you a buffer to build things
you build some things and get close to your max
go build another power station. No different to any other factory and there are SO many energy sources that are easy to tap

[olive summit]

alr so more 10 percent but still

[dense violet]

4 nodes of coal can easily get you to tier7

just treat power like an extra input for all your machines

[little cobalt]

sloops are crazy good for some specific tasks like blending rocket fuel or spelevator parts so i have yet to build the augmenter

[dense violet]

with the power socket being the input

[cyan leaf]

Wait deadass?

[wise junco]

yeh honestly

[dense violet]

yes? last few runs just built 32 coal gens, then with mk3 belts 64.
then just plowed my way to tier 7

I typically wait for blenders to do diluted fuel out of habit

even nuclear is pretty simple.
I think people only see it as complex because you don't care about any of the intermediary parts and only the last step being useful, so they see it all as one thing.

but base nuclear is extremely simple. Just some small steps linked up

[heavy oxide]

I like nukes

[timber willow]

Yeah as long as your making at a decent pace uranium is easy the tedious part is plutonium into ficsonium if you do that

[heavy oxide]

I just unlocked them and they're already automated

[feral jay]

"Just some small steps linked up" describes the whole game, to be fair

[heavy oxide]

So the ficsonium is what gets put into the sink

Anyway, NUKES!

[swift turret]

no it gets made into fuel rods and get put into MORE reactors

[timber willow]

Nah ficosonium has to burn but if your sinking fuel rods to help waste build up plutonium is what most sink

[swift turret]

it doesnt produce waste so its free power

[timber willow]

Yeah ficosonium 0 waste but of the 3 most tedious to setup since all the stuff it can require

[swift turret]

sure but if you're already producing plutonium you might as well produce ficsonium

[cunning glade]

It's not that bad

[restive snow]

anyone know of a way to align water extractors to the grid?

[swift turret]

you can place foundations in the water just get it deep enough

[timber willow]

Didn't say impossible just tedious

[cunning glade]

I wouldn't say it's tedious

[swift turret]

I think its like 3 meters under but I could be wrong

[restive snow]

I got it to work with about 6 meters. thanks

[swift turret]

I havent done it since update 8 so im way off

[swift turret]

I think you can also get it close enough if you put a t junction in the middle of a foundation and hold ctrl

[timber willow]

I mean agree to disagree which is fine it's not tough to do just if you don't have all endgame (basically working phase 5) your are not making ficosonium

[heavy oxide]

so it is plutonium

i thought it was

[timber willow]

Yeah sinking those rods are the easiest way to maintain uranium waste

[heavy oxide]

thought so

[hollow vector]

why is it that my trucks are all frozen? then eventually spit out the error that they took to long to reach a station or something

[wispy tundra]

Ouff I see 🙁

[dense violet]

it's a lot easier to do what you're trying with them in parallel

[hollow vector]

true

[west jackal]

I mean... build a small nitro rf plant, produces over 600GW amd your set unless you want to go for vanity (1 TW +)

[real salmon]

tf did you get 600gw from

[west jackal]

Blue crater crude/nitro with nitro rf alt easily makes over 600GW

Just need a little sulfur coal and water

[viral egret]

i tried doing mid air belts

bad, bad idea... gonna ground them asap

[real salmon]

nobody is gonna place 2400 generators

just for nuclear to power gap by a considerable margin

[gloomy tusk]

ok thank you

[idle sigil]

hello

we talking about big electric plants?

[west jackal]

its not 2400

[idle sigil]

i just joined the discord

[west jackal]

its only 1020 generators

and i am also going to do a nuclear plant

so dont say "nobody" just because youre too lazy to do it 🤷‍♂️

[hearty solar]

Just 1020 😭

[west jackal]

yeah at 240%

makes scaling real easy

[idle sigil]

we cant post pics here? :c sad

[stray herald]

Hello:D
Any idea why this interesction is refusing to work? It says signal loops on itself
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1486208696311746590
For some reason, one entry and exit are fine, the other two aren't

[west jackal]

gotta post in screenshots for general things, if you have a production question you can do math and meta, if you have a design question, design and architecture

[idle sigil]

got it

[west jackal]

on the left are the paths connected off screen?

[stray herald]

Yes I made a temporary loop

I posted another SC

[west jackal]

im no expert, but that green be looking a lot like the central green

[stray herald]

Yeah idk why

[west jackal]

place a block signal in that loop

not sure it would fix, ive never just added a loop like that

[stray herald]

There actually is one, it just doesn't work

Sadness

[west jackal]

it may be because of that loop, does it fix if you remove part of that section

lemme build one to test gimme a sec

[feral vector]

if I have an old production line that makes rotors, should I just keep that one going and send it to storage/sink and make more rotors in my newer production line for motors?

[stray herald]

I built the loop because it wasn't working before so I thought closing it off is the best way for me to isolate the intersection

[feral vector]

maybe I should just unlock cast screws so I don't need so many constructors to make rotors lol

[idle sigil]

the rain looks amazing

[west jackal]

are those all blocks

[stray herald]

Path in block out

[cyan hound]

move the signals further back do not place them directly on where the track splits

[west jackal]

you dont have to do this?

i just built it exactly the same (with them on the split) and its fine

[stray herald]

That fixed it somehow

[cyan hound]

done it once or twice

[stray herald]

I don't know what the issue is originally

It usually works

[west jackal]

ive had issues where breaking and replacing is the issue

fixes* but you certainly can place them on the intersection, in FACT you HAVE to for block signals

[cyan hound]

not necessarily it just makes the intersection a little bigger

[restive snow]

wow! that spawn description was not lying. early power will be a challenge. (Dune Desert)

[west jackal]

dune desert isnt bad if you rush chainsaw 🙂

it definately is harder dont get me wrong!

but once you get chainsaw it gets much easier 🙂

[restive snow]

it's actually coal I'm having trouble with rn. there's enough coal it's just all scattered.

so I'm making like 3 popup power plants for the time being

but yeah I foresaw the biomass issue and clamped on it before it became a problem (I still have biomass left over from the mass extinction event)

[pure wharf]

whats some good ways to get rid of polymer resin?

[stray herald]

Sink it is the easiest, otherwise you can use it for rubber

Why is this intersection also broken xD
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1486213436068331591

I swear I'm confused

[pure wharf]

omg i completely forgot about the sink

[restive snow]

I use it to automate fabric

[stray herald]

I be losing my skills

[real salmon]

brother

[cyan hound]

each intersection entrace needs a path and each exit needs block, try placing them off of the split end

[real salmon]

there's different meanings to lazy, im sure my not wanting to spend hours waiting for mats to place 1000 generators isn't lazy

also that needs like 20 stacks of power shards

so between that and finding the slugs needed for 2000 power shards I don't know which one would make me go insane first

[stray herald]

@cyan hound It works now:D

Thanks a bunch to you and Dylan

[real salmon]

there's some due southeast of the biome next to an oasis, shouldn't be terrible to grab

[grave burrow]

Oh absolutely the scaling of Factorio is larger. Not denying that at all. Factorio is definitely insanely optimized and Im sure we will see QUITE the optimizations coming in Satisfactory but the game can indeed handle 6 million assemblers. Not well, but it can handle that many XD Most singular building I have build was over 10 million smelters (7 million power storage building and the world border that kills you disappears XD)

[west jackal]

residual plastics?

[pure wharf]

im gunna be using the sinks

just easier since im newer

[compact pond]

so i was messing with man cannons and remembered the blueprint mechanic. so i made a blue print of 10 cannons. and ran some tests. and you wont gain speed after 85 or 90 something entrances. i hit the death roof emediately and soared up to the roof of the world, past the space elevators top ring thing.

[west jackal]

fair enough

[compact pond]

also took forever to get down

[grave burrow]

Before setting up a permanent plastic or rubber plant to use up that resin, might I recommend turning some of it into fabric so you can make at least a storage container of filters super easy. Helps mid-late game especially if you are going nuclear.

[restive snow]

I think I grabbed that one

southern oasis right?

[pure wharf]

alright ill note that, i just got to phase 4 for the first time

[real salmon]

yeah near the edge of the biome

i use that for HMF

[restive snow]

yeah I got that one

[grave burrow]

an industrial container filled with filters will literally last you the rest of the game even if you use them to make filters for nuclear. Beats having to try to make them by hand late game.

[little cobalt]

auto connecting blueprints with 4 fuel gens each makes placing them a lot less taxing. but yeah 600GW is massive overkill for beating the game - if you're playing postgame then giant facilities are probably the goal in the first place.

[serene jolt]

If I build a factory far away from my main power grid/factory is it better to run power all the way there or use biofuel until I can get coal setup. Or do I setup power first

[little cobalt]

i'd run the big power poles so you can zipline on them

[serene jolt]

Ok

[real salmon]

NOT even just the placing, it's the material cost

and yeah 600gw is overkill

[plucky bone]

Interesting. If you walk or run into a hypertube you go slower/faster according to how you entered.

[latent gate]

@dense violet So...

remember that diluted fuel plant I shared with you?

[west jackal]

I use coal on east coast, there is a pure normal i always use for starting gens, then north of that there is some more near the coast

[west jackal]

Whats up with it?

[latent gate]

I have given up entirely, and have decided to never use T2 pipes again

they're just that unreliable.

[plucky bone]

Since I have seen the drama with copied/stolen videos with MC content on YT who would be a "Legit OG" YT'er for Satisfactory? Don't wanna support copycats.

[west jackal]

T2 pipes?

mk2? they are fine? id recommend not running them at 600/min but you certainly can

[latent gate]

ImKibitz is fairly similar to your average minecraft youtuber

TotalXclipse is very good.

Satisfactory News, Fluxo, Bitz, a few others

Let's Game It Out is always a good first stop

[plucky bone]

Ok. Sweet Thank you. I'll remember that.

[latent gate]

very useful tutorials, just do whatever he does and you're bound to have a good time

[plucky bone]

I saw his one vid. Haha what a spaghetti build. Even the devs wanted his save.

[latent gate]

I guarantee a good time! Not a good factory, but a good time!

[plucky bone]

I saw that.

[latent gate]

I don't trust 'em any further than I can throw 'em.

I don't ever see a scenario where they do anything other than save a little space on the mains and force me to lose sanity doing diagnostics

nah

I'm fine with routing everything at 300/min

saves me time and I do not care about saving a little space.

[west jackal]

i mean a mk1 at 300/min has same issues as mk2 at 600

[latent gate]

not nearly as much

[west jackal]

certainly do

[latent gate]

yeah this isn't a productive conversation.

[abstract heron]

oh hi andrew

[pure wharf]

someone think they can help me out with my piping?

its messy

[abstract heron]

first did u swear

and then what u need help with

[swift turret]

use straight mode

[latent gate]

beware of pipe advice in here

lotta people think they know how fluids work

very few actually do

[pure wharf]

i have 170 hours so prolly better then me !

[pure wharf]

why stright mode?

[latent gate]

I'm past 2k and I wouldn't claim to know how they work

[pure wharf]

wdym did i swear?

[feral vector]

welp I'm still real slow lol took me like 2 or 3 hours to set up a motor production line

[abstract heron]

cause problem thats how i do then i fix it

[feral vector]

but I think I got a sweet 8x constructor blueprint for later

[west jackal]

that was very passive aggressive lmao

[feral vector]

I should have just unlocked cast screws the normal recipe is annoying

[swift turret]

keeps pipes organized

[pure wharf]

alr

[west jackal]

@unkempt blade you know how many factory carts one would need to transport 300 items a minute for like 200 ish foundations

[latent gate]

wasn't talking about you, but if you wanna own it be my guest

[west jackal]

i dont claim to know how fluids work (well) but i do know that mk1 do the same shit that mk2 do, maybe not QUITE as much, but certainly do.

[latent gate]

yeah I don't feel like continuing that discussion

[swift turret]

I like the normal recipe sometimes because the numbers are better if you HAVE to use screws

[west jackal]

what are you making?

[swift turret]

just depends

I forget what I was working on when I had to use normal one but it is required because it reduces the amount of base materials you need

[feral vector]

hmm when I checked on satisfactory tools it said they both needed 142.5 iron/min input

[west jackal]

they both require the same ammount of iron, unless you use steel screw alt

[feral vector]

welp looks like I gotta figure out oil processing so I can get rubber to unlock other stuff

this might be the most addicitive game I've ever played I need to stop and eat something I'm just sitting here crushing a bag of chips cause I don't wanna go to the kitchen

[west jackal]

have fun, run an input loop to avoid dead ends/sloshing and you should be fine. watch headlift and that should be everything

[dense violet]

Vaguely? I help with a lot of fuel plants

[west jackal]

(cobalt who is typing, is smart and can help with fluids if you get stuck)

[feral vector]

I have no idea what any of this means lmao

[wispy tundra]

OK so, shall we play a little game in this evening?

This here is the schematics for my packaging facility: #screenshots message
Now, can you guess what all the symbols mean?

A TIP: the only ones that can't be inferred by logic are the blue thingies close to the middle part. Those are a blueprint I have that has a pretty place to put a truck station and some belts. The rest are very guessable, I believe.
Whoever figures it out first wins a prize that I'll decide later what it is xD~

[feral vector]

I managed to get the coal plants working without running into issues with pipes so fingers crossed

[dense violet]

Oh wait, didn’t I send you the file with it fixed @latent gate ?

I fixed a section and it was full still 6hrs later

[latent gate]

You made some suggestions, but I don't think you ever sent me a fixed version

[west jackal]

basically, overhead loop is kinda a type of manifold. you have your pipe with junctions connected to the refineries, with the input pipe running over that connected on both ends

easier to show but i dont have the SS saved

[dense violet]

I can check my files when I’m home in a day or so, just left the house

[latent gate]

no biggie

I started over and just stripped out all the Mk.2 pipes

[dense violet]

If I do t please ping me. ADHD brain

[latent gate]

I'm done fighting with them

[feral vector]

nah I get it, it's like when I use splitters to make a manifold off of conveyor lifts on my assembler inputs except it loops from both sides

[dense violet]

Look thats an option abd honestly besides initial fluid extraction doesn’t change much

[latent gate]

not fun, not worth the time, doesn't save that much space.

[dense violet]

Iirc I only had to clean up a few spots on your system

You had too many empty canisters in some sections

[feral vector]

I didn't bother with a loop for my coal plants and it worked fine, I think I put a water tower thingy and just let them all fill with water before I turned anything on

[dense violet]

Mostly wasn’t even a pipe issue

[latent gate]

Yeah the canisters were an experiment with flow regulation as per the pipe manual, but they don't behave in a predictable way

ended up removing them first