satisfactory

[plucky bone]

I was wondering why you would want "upload to cloud" unlocked? Seems redundant when I have a factory producing everything in the cloud so it's always 100% full.

[supple canopy]

it's neat for consumables and equipment for instance

[ornate saffron]

You can build straight from cloud.

[dire wagon]

guys i just downloaded this game and it was the best €27 spent of my life, im literally so hyped

[unkempt blade]

Reject the cloud and build your own storage mall! The cloud is just a capitalist lie to keep up chained to subscription plans forever and own nothing

[plucky bone]

I guess. Never thought of that. I just built a factory for every depot I have so far.

My storage is already a monster

[unkempt blade]

but it's your monster!

[ornate saffron]

I spend 2k concrete at a time repeatedly in a row. I dont wana run back and fourth so I have 10 d depots connected to concrete production

[cloud halo]

i upgraded it idk

[ornate saffron]

Malls are fun to make.

[jagged nymph]

A

[ornate saffron]

B

[dire wagon]

i need to start doing some organisation rn i have a shitshow of mk2 conveyor belts

[plucky bone]

Wow. I'm still slowly grinding out phase 3 but taking it slow and making a nice build if possible

[jagged nymph]

and thats the best way to do it imo

[haughty bear]

hi

[jagged nymph]

bye

[haughty bear]

vay

[plucky bone]

#screenshots My mall

OOPS. Uh #design-and-architecture

Duh moment

[twin parcel]

uh how do factory cart pathing work? (exp 1.2)

[plush trellis]

There a cybertruck in the game?

[hard ivy]

no, there's a cyberwagon

[normal orbit]

yes, and very accurately modeled after the real one

actually, even better than real one, the one in game doesnt stop working when it rains

[keen flame]

not accurate enough, you can put coal or something in it

[keen flame]

LOL yea

[swift turret]

Its called an unrendered truck

[plush trellis]

I’m so sorry

A cyber wagon

[keen flame]

but does anyone unironically use it

[plush trellis]

I might save up teehee

[keen flame]

😭

[swift turret]

literally cant it only turns right

[hard ivy]

imagine how it'd work with the new paths XD

[keen flame]

bro

good job

[swift turret]

even on foundation you cant turn its rough to use

[keen flame]

yep keep going

[swift turret]

hm theres a block button I wonder what it does

lets try it on moon

[keen flame]

me when i dont think before typing and get embarrassed of my decisions

i guess

[swift turret]

nope when someone is a sarcastic douche

[ornate saffron]

I have a cyberwagon parked outside my steel facility taking up two parking spaces and blocking the entrance

[keen flame]

cyberwagon supremacy

[ornate saffron]

although i wish the game would remember that i truned off all the lights of the vehicles there. looks like a street fight is about to take place

[plucky bone]

How do you hold your build gun like I see some people do? Mine is only there when building.

Carrying the basher is so big

[ornate saffron]

h to put away your tool.

[cunning glade]

Do y'all oc ur coal water extractors?

[ornate saffron]

coal naw

[jagged nymph]

no

[ornate saffron]

water extractors yes. Situational.

[plucky bone]

I did. Oops I guess

[cunning glade]

I think I'm gonna I have 12ish normal and pure nodes too work with

[plucky bone]

My coal plants are..... odd.

[ornate saffron]

like beavis and butthead or peewee hermin

[plucky bone]

Beavis

[jagged nymph]

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

[plucky bone]

"hehehe" lets put this here...

[keen flame]

i overclock them twice if the water source is small

[ornate saffron]

when i go nuclear ill be overclocking as each reactor at 250% takes in 600 water

[jagged nymph]

why not 300 percent?

[cunning glade]

Can I max out a mk3 belt with MK2 miner on normal nodes

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

becasue max OC is 250% 😛

[cunning glade]

Mk3 belt is 270 Right

[jagged nymph]

yeah

mk2 miner full oc on normal node is 300

[cunning glade]

Hmm

[reef basin]

wdym

[cunning glade]

Maybe I don't use all the nodes that would be 216 coal gens

[plucky bone]

Maybe it's me but I see people holding it in their hand but no building going on. Like that.

[reef basin]

don't think that's possible

[plucky bone]

At least I think it's the build gun

[jagged nymph]

find a screenshot

[reef basin]

probably not then

[plucky bone]

Gonna have to pay attention next time I watch a vid.

[cunning glade]

Ig it is only 90 if I oc them all

[plucky bone]

Unless its the disassemble gun. still finding things out about the hud/controls etc

[hasty mango]

does a "train elevator" exists in the game?

[dense violet]

you have a station at the bottom of the cliff, belt it up to another station

or lan your factories so yo udon't have cliffs

[cunning glade]

I wonder if the vehicle elevator mod adds this

But stock wise no

[hasty mango]

wait is there a vehicle elevator mod?

[cunning glade]

Yes it includes cat walk elevators too

[cunning glade]

https://ficsit.app/mod/LinearMotion

[hasty mango]

they should indeed add train elevator

[cunning glade]

Would be kinda cool tbh

[smoky flame]

Sometimes I wish I can use satisfactory modeler on my phone

[cunning glade]

I mean u got tools and that's all u really need

[ornate saffron]

you can run around in deconstruct mode

[smoky flame]

Huh

[cunning glade]

Satisfactorytools

That's all u really need

[plucky bone]

True but then you'd see the hud. I better have a 2nd look. I may be wrong.

[cunning glade]

I don't see a use for modeler imo but no hate in using it

[elfin smelt]

maybe they are talking about the hoverpack stick

[cunning glade]

They could indeed be talking about the hoverpack

Prolly are

[jagged nymph]

i mean what youre explaining is infact impossible

i bet it is the hoverpack sticks, they do look similar to the build gun

[ornate saffron]

i often just have my coffee cup out

[cunning glade]

As do i

[plucky bone]

Lemme research a bit. BRB in a few min.

[elfin smelt]

does this build gun happens to have an analog stick?

[plucky bone]

Maybe

Could be.

[twin parcel]

dam, just learned that factory cart needs a dedicated truck station to enable autopilot . (1.2 exp) . lets build a police station then .

[reef basin]

can use other tools on phone

[fluid sapphire]

whats it supposed to do without truck stations? just drive laps for no reason? 😄

[proven snow]

Driving laps for no reason would be a lot of fun

[twin parcel]

u cant use universal tracks which is a bummer

[fluid sapphire]

suppose you can still make them do that, just pretend the stations are pit stops

[hollow holly]

i mean yeah

[proven snow]

Kinda sad, I miss being able to let them do whatever

[unkempt blade]

yeah I like having them just scurrying around a skatepark without any stops at the moment 🙁

[whole robin]

Cant wait for someone to make nascar with factory carts

[real shale]

Nascart you mean

[proven snow]

Strapping nobelisks to the back of a buddy’s factory cart is a lot of fun

[unkempt blade]

I did distance track (running) events growing up and my uncle took me to a nascar race and I remember how annoyed he got when I started saying it was just track but louder

[ornate saffron]

play cart golf.

two player teams

each team has Putter and a Ball

Putter uses pulse nobs to launch ball into the big hole near the grasslands

Ball is just a player in a factory cart

[unkempt blade]

I heard golf is going to be in 1.3

[twin parcel]

u know , the ball has a mind of its own , it can move to win/lose

[ornate saffron]

that's what the obstacle course made by the other team is for. You gotta launch the cart over the obstacles ^_^

I hadnt gotten to that part yet

[coral marsh]

Im back

[ornate saffron]

Hi Back im Beefalo

[coral marsh]

Hi beefalo

[ornate saffron]

how was the break

[coral marsh]

Good

[whole robin]

Is it a fool's errand to try and use all the iron nodes in grasslands with mk 2 miners at 250% when i dont even have aluminum unlocked yet

[still dagger]

I'm in phase 3. Is there a way later in the game to tell a splitter the ratio I want it to split? Like 1/8 left, 1/4 right?

[cloud halo]

er...
Kinda...?

i guess you could stack splitters

[still dagger]

yeah i wanted to avoid that

[coral marsh]

Best you can do is setup splitters with varying belt tiers

[cloud halo]

As for other inputs feed them back into the source

[coral marsh]

There are programmable and smart options, but the best way is conveyor splitters included

[green fiber]

Short answer: No

[cloud halo]

Well idk otherwise.

[ornate saffron]

no, you control output using Splitters, Belts and Mergers. The other way is clocking machines, for example you if a assembler needs 60screws/min you can clock the screw constructors to make exactly that and direct feed the assembler.

Generally speaking a Manifold is king in most situations

[jagged nymph]

no, and that is never required

theres no situation where you would need to do that

[still dagger]

after a splitter if I have a mk1 (60) and a mk2 (120), it will split 50/50 or 1/3 2/3

[still dagger]

(it's never full)

[ornate saffron]

all pioneers are

[proven snow]

should be 1/3 2/3

[jagged nymph]

if the input is 180, then it would put 60 on the mk1 belt anv overflow the excess onto the 120 belt

[weak bloom]

If your input is 180 it will split 60 120. If your input is less, it will split 50 50 up to belt limitations

[ornate saffron]

i sure as fuck wont, Not my play style

[jagged nymph]

megafactory is goodestfactory

[weak bloom]

Like if it's 150 it will put 60 90

Because it will attempt 75 75 and overflow

[still dagger]

ok got it ty guys will work with that

[rain wedge]

not sure will my pc crash after detonating 6400 sparkly fireworks

[hollow hazel]

Simultaneously? Maybe. Let them shoot off one by one? Less of a chance. Save and have fun.

[random haven]

I assume I dont get faster smelters later? haha

[ornate saffron]

kinda! you can overclock them and there is a alternate recipes to make ingots using different machines

[rain wedge]

yk lArGeSt FiReWoRk 🙂

[ornate saffron]

this is not rust sir.

[random haven]

Speaking of you just reminded me to switch over my rotor recipe lol

I dont think anything a player does can crash this game after they used josh's save to optimize the crap out of it lmao.

[weak bloom]

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for the coffee stain postmortem meeting after his video

"dear lord what has he done?!?"

[rain wedge]

dont worry i have like 380000 more fireworks

[random haven]

What are you, building a nuke?

[rain wedge]

igso

[hollow hazel]

So, guys. I think my Creative Save is finally ready to be powered! Yes, I've been building factories upon factories without any power going through them and just doing the math on a calculator. I've got Coal Power Plants in various corners that have been accumulating power. Now just to find the one that holds / generating the most power as the first one to pull the release switch. The whole factory will consume 203.4 GW!

[rain wedge]

5min passed.... deploy like 200 fireworks only still have 383800 more to go

[ornate saffron]

thats gonna be one hell of a wind up time lol

[hollow hazel]

[gif of guy pedaling on a gym bike]

[ornate saffron]

<@&370483737957236737> Stream today?

A bug fix showcase would be nice 😉

[obsidian zodiac]

mikael will be streaming yes!

[hollow hazel]

Alright. Found best generation on one end of the map and best storage on the other end. CONTACT! and starts running

[rain wedge]

#screenshots message should i pop it 🤣

[ornate saffron]

pop all of them!

[rain wedge]

dam sky looks so green

[ornate saffron]

so does the SPiders

[rain wedge]

#streams-and-videos message 🎆

[hollow hazel]

Congrats! You survived.

Meanwhile the fuse blew practically immedtiately. 🙁

[rain wedge]

yeap

[leaden turret]

-# 1.3 patch notes video, when?

[hollow hazel]

Well, after pulling each switch at each plant (each one dying), then going to a pole and pulling the "Reset Switch" things are moving! ... with a battery life of about 3 hours. Hope the other generators kick in before then. 😬

[void gorge]

Yaaaaa

Just saw Jason said yaaaaa 0.6 seconds before my neurons had fired far enough to ping you and double confirm anyway

Will be talking bout bugs fixed today, bugs fixed next week, bugs on radar in general and update on feedback new and old

Too much yapping too little time for actual showcasing

[leaden turret]

[insert skurge thor gif shooped to say "behold, my bugs" here]

[fluid sapphire]

hope the rail signaling bug is on the radar

[ornate saffron]

im okay with this, We like bug feedback

[ivory condor]

Sure hope it got posted to the qa site or thats never getting fixed

[fluid sapphire]

given how long its been and how common it is i would bet there are multiple posts about it

[ornate saffron]

If my laptop ever recieves stable internet ill post my current bug on the qa site

[ivory condor]

I have lost track how many times i have gotten those signal bugs

[fluid sapphire]

as have i

[ivory condor]

I sure do love signal loops onto itself, clearly a game feature

[rain wedge]

now i pray for 1 new feature , detonate every firework at the same time

[reef basin]

don't build them looping into itself then

[ivory condor]

Thats the fun part, it isnt and whats more fun is this was on track with signals placed at the same exact spot that didnt give the error

But you know the game is busy having a moment

But alas i dont want to think about the signal looping messages anymore besides to pray it doesnt randomly showup again somehow

[fluid sapphire]

someone was describing the reason this happens and ways to avoid it here at one point, but it seemed an annoying process - like you're supposed to go to a particular spot, look at it in a particular way and listen to a particular sound to make sure its built correctly - which is frankly ridiculous

trains interpreting connected rails as 180 turns because of the particular angle you build it from

which didnt happen anywhere near as often before 1.1

[ornate saffron]

It's a longs standing bug. I'm sure its not easy to fix that being said, Mikael implied train changes are coming a few weeks back.

#satisfactory message

Whether this was a spoiler or a troll only time will tell

[fluid sapphire]

i would have thought that if anything big was planned it would have been included in exp?

my money is on trolling, just like "we fixed fluids"

[ornate saffron]

I think if it was planned but not ready they would push it off til later as 1.2 was huge already

No signal pathings is essentially what we got for the truck update ya?

[fluid sapphire]

1.3 when? a year and a half from now?

[whole robin]

Do drones using plutonium fuel rods still have a radioactive area around them as they fly?

[white dawn]

Even if they do, you'd basically never be within range to even notice

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac is Julmust an easter egg for ficsmas 2026 content?

[hollow hazel]

Well, now that everything is powered I am seeing things that I forgot to power... and trains are having problems. 😕

[keen flame]

how is bro playing factorygamesteam 😭😭😭😭

[hollow hazel]

That is the literal name of the app.

[keen flame]

yeah thats why i asked how

did you

just delete satisfactory from registered games and choose the app window to be displayed

or are you playing on samsung smart fridge or smth

with little steam support

[jagged nymph]

guess what im playing

[coral marsh]

Mk3 pipes 🤣

[keen flame]

grand theft auto VI

WAIT WHAT

[fluid sapphire]

seems unlikely, think they have talked about this at points

[jagged nymph]

yea\

[coral marsh]

Thats why it was a joke

[keen flame]

rockstar is going to order an airstrike on your location 🙏

[jagged nymph]

yeep

[coral marsh]

You'll never guess what im playing

[jagged nymph]

nothing

mobile doesnt have rich presence anyway

[coral marsh]

Didn't even attempt to have fun

[keen flame]

can you

[coral marsh]

Wow

[ornate saffron]

im playing "how not to fall asleep at work"

[keen flame]

let me in on how to do that

pretty please

[jagged nymph]

use magic

[keen flame]

that would be so funny

[keen flame]

teach me teach me teach me

[keen flame]

secretly play sf

[jagged nymph]

ive been playing this game for too long...

[keen flame]

LMAOO

ok but how

HOW

[reef basin]

that's easy. Go home, you're no longer at work, can sleep 😛

[whole robin]

If your hours havent reached quintuple digits yet, you havent been playing for long enough

[reef basin]

I've played for 187200 seconds

checkmate 😛

[keen flame]

@jagged nymph teach me

[whole robin]

Thats why i said hours reach quintuple digits

[reef basin]

earth hours? 🙂

[jagged nymph]

ive been on gta 6 for 460,000 hours

[serene jolt]

How do I start a server for my friends and I. Can I just invite them to my world or do I have to do something stupid

[whole robin]

Yes, typically. Unless you are playing from mars or something

[jagged nymph]

well its not "stupid". You have to run a server, because thats how multiplayer works in any game

you can either run a dedicated server, or open your save to steam/epic multiplayer

[serene jolt]

Ok

[ornate saffron]

pretty common for sandbox games

[whole robin]

Inviting them to your world is an option, but they will only be able to play when you are playing

[dawn vapor]

How to change weather with hand?

[whole robin]

What

[jagged nymph]

no, they can only join when you have the server running. Just like a dedicated server

but if you arent doing a dedicated server you just also have to have the client open aswell to host the server

[dawn vapor]

oh sorry wrong channel

[coral marsh]

Cant, unless you use a mod

If one even exists for weather

[jagged nymph]

or youre on 1.2

[coral marsh]

Or that, yea

[ornate saffron]

@coral marsh what does a pioneer do on break?

I imagine the scene in apocalypse now where the Protagonist is waiting in a room going stir crazy waiting for orders

[coral marsh]

Honestly, id say thats pretty accurate

[minor elk]

FICSIT does not allow for dallying except for coffee breaks.

[coral marsh]

You gotta find a way to have fun on another planet

[ornate saffron]

Hit up risa

[coral marsh]

They may not, but the human rights act 100% does allow it

Im happy to do the work, fk, ill even work 12 hours a day 5 days a week (maybe 6) as long as i get legally guaranteed breaks

[tall lantern]

bold of you to assume that's in force

[minor elk]

You're alone on an alien planet, I don't think "rights" and "laws" apply to you. 😄

[coral marsh]

Bold of you to assume humanity devolves so far into madness they no longer follow natural rights laws

[leaden turret]

1. who says the Pioneer is human?
2. who says human rights enforcement has jurisdiction on Massage 2aabababababa

[coral marsh]

You work for an earth company, you and thr company are bound and governed by earth laws as a technicality

[normal orbit]

you think human rights apply in the future?

[minor elk]

But all the puppies and kittens are counting on us 🥺

[leaden turret]

-# you think human rights apply in the present? 😬

[coral marsh]

Are we seriously going to assume that an EXPLORATION based company BASED in earth, isnt going to abide by HUMAN laws and rights?

[normal orbit]

precisely :p

[leaden turret]

looks at companies on earth violating human laws and rights in other countries

yes.

yes, I do.

[coral marsh]

You'd be surprised where and how theyre still in effect

[coral marsh]

Im not looking at the present

[leaden turret]

you think it's going to get better with space capitalism? 😛

[coral marsh]

Who says its going to be capitalism

[abstract girder]

hello guys

[leaden turret]

in space, noone can hear you scream whistleblow

[coral marsh]

I live in New zealand, an actual developed country WITH FREE HEALTHCARE btw, not america that genuinely has the budget to do so, just refuses to ever do it.

Im basing my hypothesis on if my government founded ficist

Not americas

[leaden turret]

reminder that americans get salty when you discuss american politics, so discussing politics is against the #rules

[coral marsh]

My government, despite its failings, still gives a shit about human rights

[humble osprey]

Gotta love human rights

Definitely one of my favorite rights

[fluid sapphire]

capitalism is a mechanism that fights tooth and nail for profit at any cost, goverments are not safe from this

[coral marsh]

I hate politics as well, its a shit show, so fair enough on calling me out on that rule

[coral marsh]

Good thing NZ isnt run on capitalism (despite luxton's attempts for it)

Anyway, thats enough of that

Im only up so late because I cant sleep

[leaden turret]

dev stream in a little while, so can fall asleep to the sultry tones of Mikael's voice

[coral marsh]

Theres only a couple things that could allow me to sleep peacefully atm

[little timber]

Cant wait to go home and start decorating my powerplant

[sly karma]

What's the trick to make a water tower that doesn't need fluid pumps? I forget what it's called. I think it involves a pipe valve set at 0 or something.

[lofty phoenix]

hey guys

I recently just finished the space ship,and it still shows objective

Need 50 smart plating

[next ivy]

objective: survive

[copper forge]

is there any way to fix the MAM's research decor disappearing? Been a problem for two years and devs have never responded to reports about it. :-(

[red moon]

any place here for finding shared Mk3 blueprints? What I found so far: one site buried in ads to the point of unusability. One that miscategorized its own content. One with no search function. One subreddit full of year-old dead links.

[west jackal]

I saw someone post this https://www.desmos.com/calculator/3st6opd3w7 but it shows the maximum of a train is around 1500 p/min with a stack size of 500, this seems odd to me that there is no way to approach these numbers with smaller stacks, or with faster belts getting over 1500, anyone know if thats the case?

[tall lantern]

main problem's the load/unload pause

[west jackal]

seems like it may just be outdated and calculating based on mk5 belts

[tall lantern]

with bigger stacks you can travel further and so spend less time proportionally with paused belts

[west jackal]

sure, but it would still seem like you could get at LEAST 2000 p/min with 500 stack sized?

with mk6 belts

[tall lantern]

might be right, those 1560s look sus

if that's meant to be 2xbeltSpeed

[west jackal]

i think it is just otudated, i changed to 2400 on that line of 1560s and it looks closer to what i expected

peaking at around 2300 /min per car

need stack of 500 and 7 minute trip, but doable

and good to know that so as long as i stick to 1 input belt i shouldnt really have to worry about it, but that i could easily push 1600/min on 2 minute train

[pine lark]

#screenshots message still going multiplayer 100x 1x 1x all pure also I have my own world 100x 2x 5x all pure

[west jackal]

what do the multipliers do?

i know one increases elevator parts required and one is power? but now the third

[pine lark]

We are like 5-6 people al working together

[next ivy]

bot spam from 697869500304851064 is funni

[west jackal]

erm, that did not answer the question lol

[fluid sapphire]

the theoretical throughput limit stops mattering the moment you increase your numbers of cars/platforms

[whole robin]

Multiply thw amount required for space elevator, multiply the power needed for machines, and multiply materials needed for recipes

[pine lark]

we are playing in game modes 100x 1x 1x all pure which part is unclear?

[west jackal]

i also know that, i was slightly concerned trying to do 1200/min in one car, this cannot increase, so i decided on a second train because it was a 4 minute trip, but i had some others.

[tall lantern]

what each of those numbers are, mainly

[west jackal]

dude i was just asking which multipliers affected what thing in game. I knew 100x was for elevator parts, but didnt know what the other effected

i looked it up since i was getting vague and irrelevant answers

[fluid sapphire]

with two belts 1200 per minute should be easy

[next ivy]

wait x5 recipe size ?

[tall lantern]

also obligatory "experimental-related stuff should be in #satisfactory-experimental "

[west jackal]

no, its x5 power

x2 is the max for recipes

[west jackal]

well, not according to the old graph, as that was based off max belt of 780 instead of 1200

[proven snow]

100x elevator parts required

5x power required

2x recipe part cost (makes every recipe cost twice as many materials, which gets exponentially worse as an item needs multiple recipes to make)

Also theres the ability to randomize or tweak purity and locations of ores

[fluid sapphire]

yeah i wouldnt take graphs like that at face value, just do your own math

[sinful roost]

Hey in factorio if your train stations have the same name trains will queue for an empty station. Does satisfactory have something like this or do I have to specify which specific stop each time?

[west jackal]

He said 100x 2x 5x, pure which is what i was asking about, but thank you.

[tall lantern]

no dynamic pathing at all, specific stops only

[pine lark]

others recipe 1x power 1x all pure nodes

[west jackal]

i think this is better, then trains do the same thing every time

[proven snow]

ah I see he said both now

[west jackal]

🙂

[sinful roost]

Got it, SAM Station 1 - 10 OR something lol

[west jackal]

Havent gotten to sam, but my bauxite stations are labeled like, Baux PPN St1, Baux PPN St2, Baux PP. Etc

then i have trains labaled similiar Baux PPN T1, Baux PPN T2, Baux PP T1,

[whole robin]

Liquid factory cart coming in 1.3

[fluid sapphire]

carries 1 container at a time (equivalent of...)

ah nvm

[west jackal]

lol they should, but it can only hold like 100 m^3 or something

[sinful roost]

I've done similar naming but for SAM it's starting to get out of hand fast lol

[west jackal]

the scale gets out of wack if we look at sizes of things and power draw, so best not to do that, and just let the game be fun

[west jackal]

I agree with that, especially when for the most part, no 2 sams are close enough for the same rail station.

Id probably still have 1 train picking multiple nodes just with multiple stops

but im a train novice, the most i did with trains was before they added block signals, when trains just phased through each other 🙂

[tall lantern]

for long distance transport like that you'd likely be fine using a single delivery station

[west jackal]

remember back in U3 when fluids were first added, setting up a 1 TW power plant, boy that was rough with tfuel / fuel gens only doing 150MW and no excess power shards back then 🙁

ive lost the world, i wish i could go back and see it again

maybe it was u4, i cant remember anymore if i did turbo blend or heavy, but i think it mightve been turbo blend

I know i used DPF alt with packager loop

[dawn vapor]

I am on 1.2 so yeah but already found it ty

[serene jolt]

That game hasn’t been out for 52 years last I checked

[jagged nymph]

then how have i been on it for that long

!wikisearch cg

!wikisearch cg

[tall lantern]

rejected, you might just have to actually go to the wiki

[unkempt blade]

it's 55 years actually

[green fiber]

!wikisearch coal+generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal+generator

[green fiber]

weaklings

[jagged nymph]

anyone know where i can find high speed connectors at crash sites

[unkempt blade]

the wiki does 🙂

[jagged nymph]

does it ?

where do i find that

i tried to look earlier but couldnt find it

[little timber]

Build them

Be a pioneer

[jagged nymph]

in in phase 2

[little timber]

Then why do u need them

[jagged nymph]

geothermal generator

[little timber]

Is it for a hard drive?

[unkempt blade]

crash site page lists scattered items in a table by crash site with coordinates

[plucky bone]

Just took my first ride in a hypertube. Cool AF.

[little timber]

Make a canon

Much cooler

[jagged nymph]

wait is there even enough hsc for it

yeah theres 207

[plucky bone]

A cannon? That's possible?

[little timber]

Yes, you can travel across the map with it

Search it on YT

[jagged nymph]

yknow what i think its easier to hand feed the spelevator parts and get some fuel power rq and come back to my current projects

[wise lance]

using the 'splitter/merger on a lift', is there a way to make a 'short' lift that has two of them? every time i try one of the splitters/mergers isn't connected to the lift

[plucky bone]

Cool. Well I am trying not to do that. First playthrough and wanna keep it as me find out as possible.

[little timber]

I dont think you would find that out by yourself

Cuz its kinda abusing mechanics

[plucky bone]

Probably true. Although I have the idea now I can mess with the parts.

I like abusing mechanics for the good of the game.

[little timber]

Try and do it, its super fun, i used it to uncover the whole map without actually walking

[tall lantern]

some would argue if it's "for the good of the game" since it's a very strong travel mechanic that undercuts many others

[plucky bone]

Cool. After I finish this building and factory I'll mess around

[little timber]

What kind of factory?

[tall lantern]

it was initially unintended, then they broke it, some people complained, so they added it back. But it was never really supposed to be a thing

[plucky bone]

Makes sense. Kinda meant it not like that but communication skills lack here.

[little timber]

You have a good point

[plucky bone]

Just a uh....

[tall lodge]

It also depends a lot on the type of player. Me for example the exploration is something I do once per save because I have to.

If not for the hard drives, I would just not do it.

[plucky bone]

Smart plating factory.

[little timber]

For me i just need to uncover the whole map to plan then i will have to walk it to build railways and factories and gather slugs

[little timber]

Goodluck pioneer

[wise lance]

To add, i'm trying to make this work but i can't figure it out. https://i.imgur.com/hm8v4as.png

[plucky bone]

It's in #design-and-architecture I posted a couple pics asking bout adding doors if it was possible a few min ago

[little timber]

Im gonna build a smokeless powder factory and with the remaining HOR i will make nitro fuel for the jet pack and extra power

[tall lodge]

I am having fun with the current experimental build. TLDR is I intentionally play on the 0.25x settings so I can do things at scale in early game. And its more fun then I thought honestly.

[little timber]

0.25X what exactly

Im not familiar with the experimental

[tall lodge]

basically you can set part recipe costs, deliverable cost and one more setting to 1/4th at the lowest and 100x at the highest.

Ah power consumption was the third one.

[little timber]

Oh wow thats actually nice

[tall lodge]

So its basically a super easy mode that I play for fun right now, as my main factory is basically done at this point.

Because at least for me personally tier 1 and tier 2 always felt a bit meh you rush through it because you always want to get to coal as fast as possible.

[whole robin]

How much smart plating

[little timber]

Yeah you are right

I dont think i will ever start a new play through cuz of how slow it is at the start

[plucky bone]

I'm on phase 3 and have the 2nd and 3rd parts to make. I think I need 1K

The framework was easy from tier 2

[tall lodge]

What it did was that I actually took the time to get tickets early and even my very first builds got decoration and a clean layout, instead of just tearing them down and rebuilding them in full.

[little timber]

Thats very smart

[little timber]

Ay good job

[plucky bone]

Ye. No matter how much I need it is getting it's own factory. The essentials at my main place. And now the special stuff elsewhere if I can. then bring to space elevator somehow....Trains gonna be a tough learn I bet

[little timber]

But they are fun to learn, i refused to watch tutorial and just figure em out by myself

[fluid sapphire]

keep it simple

dont try to do mixed trains right off the bat

[little timber]

I cant wait to build the watch tower and control room for my powerplant and watch the train come and go

Make blueprints

[plucky bone]

I am as well. After I know it then maybe see if there's more to learn. Tutorials just ruin all the fun. The small hints here and there from people here are ok just not an obvious "Do this like this for this" kinda thing is not me.

[minor vale]

I stopped having issues with the early phases once they gave bio burners an input

Became more than tolerable after that point.
Just dump your organics into a bin, auto process into solid biofuel
Auto distribute to power.

[little timber]

I have decorative ones for 1 railway tower/support and 2 rails also

[little timber]

Yeah i did that and it helps a lot but its just slow in every aspect

[plucky bone]

Everytime I take the personnel elevator I wanna go play Sonic on my Sega Lol. Dunno why but the music reminds me of it.

[fluid sapphire]

if you want it super simple:

*2 lane system
*block signals spaced to fit your longest train along your entire network
*for intersections path signal in, block out
*a train only goes from A to B
*a train only carries a single type of product
*a train only leaves when empty or full
*all platforms, loading and unloading have containers between the source/platform for loading, or destination/platform for unloading
*load and unload all platforms equally

[plucky bone]

Ok. Thanks for the tips. I'll definitely refer to em.

[fluid sapphire]

doing it like this is the simplest way you can do it that scales well

for signaling problems we have #1038092680493801533

[tall lantern]

block signals spaced at least as long as the longest train, but even more spread out is fine too, just as long as the track overall is divided up into more than like 2 segments

and a train carriage only carries a single type of product

[fluid sapphire]

not for the way i set them up

but sure

i wouldnt advise mixed trains for a beginner

[tall lantern]

I don't see a reason not to as long as they're also following the other stuff

[fluid sapphire]

its simple, the scheduling gets more complicated

[minor vale]

mixed train cargo laods has less to do with your skill at trains and more how well you understand smart splitters and having storage buffers/sink overflows on both ends of the system.

[tall lantern]

the 2 lane system (or rather, "all tracks should only allow trains to move one direction", allows for other setups) is the main thing really

[tall lantern]

nah that'd be if you were mixing within carriages, which I wouldn't recommend

but having say plastic carriage one, rubber carriage two is fine

[plucky bone]

Do you add conveyor hole before or after the walls/conveyor? I guess what is the proper order of assembly for a hole in a wall I mean.

[fluid sapphire]

it is fine, its just more math involved to make sure enough product gets to the destination in time

like i said, the approach i describe is one of simplicity, i stripped away all the extra complications that you can initially do without

[minor vale]

you can also make signalling easier on yourself when it comes to intersections by not allowing standard left turns and making use of U-turns so that trains never cross paths.
Like I did with my last train network.
#design-and-architecture message

[tall lantern]

3d junctions ftw

[fluid sapphire]

signaling basic intersections is not that difficult

once you wrap your head around how signals work, you can signal all intersections the same way, they all follow the same logic, no matter the shape

[tall lodge]

Play Factorio without Space Age, that will get you intimately familiar with signalling.

[fluid sapphire]

Wouldn't know, but I hear trains in factorio have dynamic pathing, I would assume this would mean that signaling is not entirely the same between the two

[clever pier]

anyone ever do the math on powering your factory using alien protein turned into solid biofuel? its ridiculous how much you get from one fluffy hog

[fluid sapphire]

Sure but you could get a lot of coupons out of that protein

Sloop the remains to get double protein, then sloop the next step to get double capsules, voila, quadruple returns

Sure if you think that's worth the time

[clever pier]

sorry that wasn't meant to be a reply to that

[plucky bone]

Yup. My go to for easy tickets. Drive around and mow down hogs and spitters with a tractor. Definitely a highlight of the day for sure.

[tall lodge]

I mean the amount of power you get out of it is still miniscule compared to even a fuel power plant.

[clever pier]

you can do "interupts" in factorio, the trains need fuel, you can do stuff like, do this route, when fuel gets below 5, go to the fuel station then go back to the normal route

[plucky bone]

And use the boombox for hatchers

[tall lodge]

And it requires refilling "manually".

[clever pier]

or another factorio thing you can do with trains "drop ammo at these boxes when it gets below a certain amount"

[plucky bone]

Anyway I better get to building this factory. Will post a shot when I am done.

[tall lodge]

Its fundamentally still block signals and chain signals

It has quality of life on top of it but the signalling is largely the same.

[whole robin]

I mean, it eventually could just become a fuel power plant if you use liquid biofuel, especially if you use sloops

[fluid sapphire]

if you're a masochist, probably

[tall lodge]

The question is still then how long do you think you can keep it meaningfully operational? An hour? 5 hours? 10 hours?

And also the question is the sloops you use there you could get a lot more power out of it elsewhere

[heavy pine]

Any power source that can't be fully automated is a stopgap at best.

[tall lodge]

So early on maybe, but even then its a stopgap at best

[supple canopy]

hell yeaaa the z key works again

[tardy coral]

https://youtu.be/Rp89jcXlVYI?list=RDRp89jcXlVYI

[clever pier]

i'm doing a run where I skip coal... so alien biomass is great for getting to fuel gens

[minor vale]

Agreed

Lot of benefit in having train pathways that avoid crossing as much as possible.

My own lil uturn system there flat out removes a train from the main track while it's trying to turn, so if it get's stuck waiting
it doesn't block off either of the main paths while waiting for it's turn to go.

[plush trellis]

I wish you can type how many of item item you need instead of holding down the button

[heavy pine]

Weird challenge, but whatever it takes to keep the game interesting I guess.

[clever pier]

coal is boring

as a power source, and more coal for steel

I still use the coal for powering my trucks as well

[heavy pine]

I'm looking forward to 1.2 so I can do a new game with all the resource nodes set to Pure.

[minor vale]

then make coal less boring by making a 162 unit coal power plant using compact coal, where you have to collect a ton of distant sulphur nodes via trucks

[plush trellis]

It’s good for temporary power until you get the next power factory

[whole robin]

Just tap it once and it should do it without you having to press anything

[plush trellis]

Yeah but I need a huge number of the item

[minor vale]

if you build big enough, it'll be a power source for a Long time
:)
#screenshots message

[plush trellis]

[whole robin]

Just use the time to calculate the stuff for a factory, or to stretch/get water/go for a walk

[stuck bough]

is vulkan better than dx12 on linux?

[fluid sapphire]

holding down what button?

[white dawn]

If the game runs for you in dx12, that's probably still the best option -- Proton's dx12-to-Vulkan layer is quite good, and dx12 is the only supported renderer by CSS.

Depending on your setup you may need to use Vulkan, though. On my system I get an immediate crash if I use dx12 (ever since sometime in Update 8) for instance

Although admittedly even prior to needing to use Vulkan, I actually had a slightly more stable experience when choosing Vulkan, so I'd been using it for awhile

No harm in trying it out, of course. :D

[plush trellis]

I’m on controller so it be the numpad the arrows

[signal tree]

will the rain affect the road, will it make it slippery????

[stuck bough]

well for me, my pc runs it really well (at least early/mid game with 100+ fps, then it dips below) but i think it runs better on vulkan on my laptop. (around 60 fps early game with dx12 and 60-80 with vulkan) or mabye it runs exactly the same but im just going crazy

[proven snow]

Doubt it

[plush trellis]

Not for a full factory. It’s like I need a huge number of stuff like for example bolts, screws etc

[white dawn]

Though if you do try out Vulkan, you may want to keep an eye on your Engine.ini (steamapps/compatdata/526870/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/Windows/Engine) -- changing renderers can leave some stuff inside the [/Script/WindowsTargetPlatform.WindowsTargetSettings] section which doesn't get cleared out properly when you're switching back and forth

[whole robin]

Bolts?

[white dawn]

So if you do try out different renderers, I'd recommend hopping in there and deleting that section prior to making the swap; that should give you a "clean" cutover

[white dawn]

Yeah, the specifics are likely to vary based on hardware + drivers and stuff

Really just whatever works well for you, in the end. :)

[sour kiln]

​​Will we be able to have AI Agents enabled for us NPU/Blackwell players to have an AI Agent that can actually tell us how to most efficiently build in game?

[white dawn]

Could enable some FPS-counter stuff to see if you can attach some numbers to your experience rather than just vibing it, of course

[mortal ginkgo]

BROWWW THEY ADDED THE REMOVED LIMESTONE BACK IN 1.2 AYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYA

[white dawn]

Though personally I tend to just trust my vibes with that kind of stuff. :D

[white dawn]

CSS does not strike me as the kind of company interested in such things. Feel free to suggest it on the Questions site, but I would definitely not hold my breath for it. :)

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[sour kiln]

I mean, I can simply create an Agent on my own.

Interface it without permission

[white dawn]

There you go then. :)

[sour kiln]

Thats not how thats supposed to work

This is a feasable feature now

[white dawn]

Not sure what else you want? I've pointed you to the place where you can suggest it to the devs, and given my opinion as to how likely it is that CSS would ever do it

If you've got the skills to mod it into the game yourself (or are willing to acquire such skills), then go for it, etc. Nobody here's gonna stop you

[crystal cedar]

GUYS S1 HELP MY VGA LIFHT ON MY MOBO IS ON aND NO DISPLAY(B760M,RTX4060) wait is this the wrong channel?

[west sluice]

Can drones carry liquids?

[white dawn]

No; have to package 'em up first

[west sluice]

Aw dang. Alright, thanks!

[white dawn]

You can set up packaging loops with that so that the same drone delivering the packaged fluid also carries the empties back to the packaging site, fwiw. So you just need a fixed amount of empty containers in the system

You'll need about 3x the "active" amount total in the system -- one bunch of material getting packaged, one enroute (whether empty or full), and one getting unpackaged.

(So like if you're doing 120/min packaged and the route has a 5-minute round-trip, that's 600 packages being processed, so you'd need about 1800 total in the system)

[zealous coral]

game keeps crashing on startup, im still on experiemental but i cant seem to get out of exp

any fixes

[white dawn]

That's usually due to having mods installed, btw -- you'd need to uninstall any mods to play on Experimental. As for getting off of Experimental, I assume you're on Steam? If so, right-click the game and go to properties, then the "betas" tab, and then choose Public instead of Experimental

That should queue up a download to get the game into the Public state

[zealous coral]

dont have any mods

[white dawn]

You say that but you'd be surprised how often we see folks go from "I don't have any mods" to "oops, turns out I did have some mods." :D

[weak bloom]

Where do you input these and where do you need buffers?
I want to send packaged nitrogen gas. So I was thinking, at the gas location I'd have a storage bin full of empty containers, into a packager, into the drone port, and empty packages out of the drone port back into the storage bin.

Do I also need a similar bin of empty canisters at the destination where I'm doing the unpacking? Or can I just fill up the one bin at the start and it'll be fine?

[white dawn]

Anyway, that Betas tab should get you back to the Public branch of the game, regardless

[white dawn]

I always put an ISC as the first step after/before the drone port, and that should keep everything smoothed out

Depending on circumstance you may not even technically need that, but I always just put it in as a matter of habit

[weak bloom]

For both the full and empty containers?

[white dawn]

Yep!

[weak bloom]

Hmm ok

[white dawn]

I do that basically anywhere there's a "bulk" delivery, so vehicles/trains/drones

[weak bloom]

I was worried about whether the drone will ever get stuck being unable to load or unload if there's not enough empty space on one side, not sure if that's an issue with this setup

[white dawn]

That way you can use the port/station's internal cargo buffer as a gauge for if your setup is supporting the throughput you need. You'd be able to see for sure that the intake port gets totally cleared out before the next shipment, etc

[white dawn]

Honestly that would kind of even itself out over time regardless, but the ISC buffer should ensure that it's not a problem

[weak bloom]

But I guess the drone will self balance assuming it's not consuming more than 9 stacks in the round trip time right?

[white dawn]

A drone will hang around at the delivery port if it can't fully drop off its cargo, but buffers after the fact should ensure that never happens (and if it ever does happen, you'd be so backed-up on deliveries that it doesn't matter anyway)

[weak bloom]

it should wait at the destination until the 9 stacks are able to be unloaded and then it'll drop them?

[white dawn]

Yeah, in the end it'll likely self-balance no matter what you do. The ISC just ensures that you're not bound by the cargo storage on the port itself

[weak bloom]

Yeah I guess the only concern would be if it's able to drop off 9 stacks of packaged gas but doesn't have 9 stacks of empty canisters to pick up. But the buffer should fix that

[white dawn]

Yeah, if the cargo storage on the Drone Port doesn't have enough stacks to take the whole delivery, the drone will transfer what it can, and then as soon as a stack opens up it'll transfer another stack over

Once the drone's empty, it'll head back off to pick up more material

But yeah, buffering should mean that'll never happen

(and if it does ever happen, that'd mean that you've got a whole ISC full of backlog, plus a whole Drone Port Cargo worth of backlog, so it'd mean that the delivery site isn't actually processing material as fast as you're delivering, anyway. So it's not a big deal)

[weak bloom]

Oh, does that also work the same when picking up from the destination depot for the return journey? Like:

1. drone arrives, unloads what it can
2. if it can't unload the full capacity, wait until it can
3. when empty, pick up as much as it can from the input storage
4. fly back

[white dawn]

I actually also always put in a smart-splitter-to-overflow in front of the ISC, 'cause I want my drone ports to remain clean even if the factory's stopped processing for whatever reason

[weak bloom]

Well I definitely don't want to sink anything out of packaged gas because I'm not making extra containers lol

[white dawn]

    [Port]
      |   
      v
     [SS] --[overflow]--> [Sink]
      |
      v
    [ISC]
      |
      v
 (factory...)

Yeah, it's a bit unnecessary anyway

And I suppose I probably wouldn't do that for a packaging loop either, now that I've mentioned it

So, er, ignore that. :D

I never pass up an opportuninty for ASCII diagrams. :P

[white dawn]

Yep, that's it. :)

Headin' AFK btw; if you've got more questions someone else'll have to pick up the answers. Cheers!

[plucky bone]

Is pumping water a fair distance like 500ish M tough? Head lift like uh around 20-30 M I'm guessing.

Head lift is none. Water be higher. Probs easy then.

[west jackal]

is there an easy way to monitor that machines are not going offline for a longer period of time?

[minor cedar]

guys is liquid bio fuuel better or packaged fuel

[west jackal]

like if i afk it for an hour, is there a good way to tell if a machine goes offline during tha ttime? (weird things with alum)

[west jackal]

depends on what you are using it for

[minor cedar]

jetpack

[west jackal]

ik

lbf is good for distance, fuel goes higher up

if you are using it with a man cannon, use lbf for distance. I normally just use fuel though

[weak bloom]

Not really but for most systems just staring at it for like a minute should be enough. If something is idling it should show in that time, especially aluminum where the recipe is pretty fast

Or you can set a belt throughput monitor on the output and come back to see if it's stable at what you expect

[west jackal]

i can watch it for a half hour and no issues, but if i leave the factory for too long it goes off

[weak bloom]

O_o huh, that's weird

[west jackal]

er, thats complicated. I implemented a custom splitter design that acts kinda like a manifold, but it ends up with one belt constant at 600 and the other RMS at 600 but fluctuates between like 590 and 610 or something

looks stable rn though

[west jackal]

yea.. recycled water is a pain

I wish that programmable splitters could control item/min flow. they seem like a waste otherwise

[weak bloom]

Are you merging fresh and byproduct water?

[west jackal]

no

im doing sloppy electrode, 1 sloppy on fresh at 90% the other 2 equal 210% on recycled, the 3 electrode refiners provide exact p/min for the 2 sloppies

[minor vale]

have an overflow pipe for recycled water.
even if your math is 1 to 1 accurate
Just so that if something messes up you have somewhere to dump the water.

[weak bloom]

Maybe try turning off 2 of the electrode refineries and the 2 recycled sloppy ones until the water pipe is full, then turn on the sloppy ones until the alumina solution pipe is also full, then turn them all on. That's kinda how I booted up my setup yesterday and it's stable

[west jackal]

how do you do an overflow pipe that doesnt end up overloading the output

[west jackal]

i did that by adding in fresh water to jump start it, and its been okay since, but they WERE running stable before that so i dont know if this fixes it?

i mean, ill leave it and see what happens

[minor vale]

at the end of the pipe row where you're feeding water into your machines

you have a pipe go upwards vertically.
that vertical pipe will not fill with water, unless you're overflowing.
then you port the top of that off somewhere else to make into an item to sink, like wet concrete.
you don't intend to make wet concrete consistently. those buildings are just there to handle excess water and prevent things from backing up.

[west jackal]

wont the water still flow up there even if its not backed up and cause water runout on the other refiners.

[minor vale]

basic mechanics of how liquid in the game works
It follows gravity
it only travels upwards if the pipes are filling up full.

And if you have a pipe at the end of the system going up
it should never fill up and spill out the top unless the system before hand has too mcuh water in it.

[weak bloom]

Nope because it'll go into the refineries first

Only time the pipe fills above the refineries is if there's more water than the refineries need

[west jackal]

well, if it keeps failing, ill add something like that, but for now im going to leave it as is and hope that the issues were just because of me changing things and it getting backed up or something

[minor trench]

fellas i accidentaly made my plutonium setup take 3600 uranium waste instead of the 720 i make what the FUCK do i make with the 80% of the stuff that don't get any use?

[plucky bone]

I'm going all out with a simple factory and my refinery is asking for 4M of water. I take it that means 400M3 of water a min? So like 1 water extractor overclocked possibly?

[west jackal]

1 extractor maxes at 300

[plucky bone]

(Pure iron ingot recipe for 65/min)

[minor vale]

...if hte refinery needed 400m3 of water, it would say 400m3 of water

[plucky bone]

Ok. I'll have to use 2 then. Thx

[crimson robin]

Guys should I. Get sts 2 or satisfactory, I love both but factorio is much more closer to me, keep in mind that I have very bad pc and will have to play in 720p with worst graphic to have stable 60 in satisfactory, if that’s a problem

[west jackal]

pure iron only needs 20 /min

youre looking at it wrong @plucky bone

it needs 4 m^3 of water for each construction of iron

[plucky bone]

O?

[fluid sapphire]

whats the 4m even mean?

[west jackal]

it needs 20/min

[crimson robin]

?

[minor vale]

m3
cubic meters.

[west jackal]

4m means 4m^3 for each 13 iron ingots made

[plucky bone]

Ok. I think I see it.

[west jackal]

look under that were it says p/min

[plucky bone]

Ye 20/min

[west jackal]

thats what you need to provide it

[plucky bone]

Ok

[crimson robin]

Folks can anyone answer? Idk if graphics will kill vibe

[minor vale]

what gpu do you have.

[west jackal]

satisfactory is better. those fps willl suck. especially late game. but its not our decision to make?

[crimson robin]

Ryzen 3200g you XD

I can send ss of graphics I get, I played it like yesterday and got refund

[fluid sapphire]

sure, thats the per cycle amount (4)

not unique to refineries whatsoever

[crimson robin]

I want other people opinion

[fluid sapphire]

sts2? slay the spire?

whats that have to do with satisfactory

[crimson robin]

Yep

[minor vale]

that's your CPU.
it's a bit on the low end but the GPU is a bit more important for getting the game to run well.
(I mean both are important but sitll)

[tall lantern]

maybe the spire's the space elevator

[crimson robin]

It’s igpu

[fluid sapphire]

if it doesnt run well, why bother

[minor vale]

oh
I can't reccomend you try to get satisfactory for now then till you get some kind of dedicated GPU.

even old ones can work.

[crimson robin]

No money rn cuz I’m moving to diff city, I can send ss of graphics I get that provided me stable 60 fps

[fluid sapphire]

you'll want at least something equivalent to a 1050ti, preferably 1060

[crystal cedar]

Yea a dgpu is a must(even if it's a 940mx)

[fluid sapphire]

1050ti-s move around here for like 15€

[crystal cedar]

K maybe not 940mx

[crimson robin]

Guys I fr no money rn lol, can I just send ss of graphics and you tell me if i should get it

[west jackal]

can a 1060 even run this?

[fluid sapphire]

easily

[crystal cedar]

Yes

[fluid sapphire]

i used to play on an rx580, it was fine

[west jackal]

dude i get frame stutters/drops on 4080 super

[tall lantern]

I used a 1060 back pre-1.0

[fluid sapphire]

thats just normal for this game

i get drops on 3060ti too

[minor vale]

I currently play satisfactory on a gtx 1050 that i've had in this computer for like, 8 years.

works fine.

[west jackal]

pre 1.0 i used 5700 and i play on my laptop with 3050ti rn

but my laptop doesnt like the new alum factory

[fluid sapphire]

how can anyone judge that for you?

[tropic juniper]

i have a 4080 and that shouldn't happen. what's your system memory look like? are they a properly matched kit that is properly configured?

[fluid sapphire]

up to you what your standards are

[crimson robin]

thats why i came here

[west jackal]

9800x3d, only 32gigs of ddr5 6000

but im playing on 4k ultra

[crimson robin]

idk cuz like if game`s enjoyment comes 50% from graphics then why would i get it

[tropic juniper]

that'll be why lol

[crimson robin]

tho i played bg3 and elden ring in worse graphics and beat them and enjoyed

[fluid sapphire]

tf kinda game has its enjoyment come from graphics in that proportion, thats ridiculous

[west jackal]

yeah i know, i was honestely just supprised a 1060 could handle even at 1080

[tropic juniper]

honestly, it's not really a 4k detail kind of game. run it at 2k and DLSS it to native res

should be no different

[west jackal]

no

[crimson robin]

graphics are part of enjoment isnt it

[fluid sapphire]

a garbage game with amazing graphics is still a garbage game

[west jackal]

i need to see the beans in all their native resolution glory

[crimson robin]

at least mental enjoment

so guys dont you mind if i send you screenshoots?

[fluid sapphire]

post them

[tropic juniper]

ok. enjoy your frame stutters i guess then.

[crimson robin]

5 min please

[west jackal]

i really only ever get stuters when im flying across the map from mancannon

on the other hand, my laptop struggles to run 1080p near the new bauxite refinement plant

[fluid sapphire]

if you build big enough, it doesnt matter what hardware you have

tens of thousands of items on belts in close quarters will murder your framerate regardless of hardware

[tropic juniper]

I would say No Mans Sky at launch, most of the enjoyment came from the visual design of it rather than gameplay mechanics

[west jackal]

yerp

[fluid sapphire]

i find that nice graphics can draw me in, but if the gameplay is shite, it for sure cant keep me around

[west jackal]

not all the inputs are hooked up yet. I think right now its about 4k bauxite/min and something like 600 copper ore/min, but it WILL have max bauxite

[cold walrus]

in the early game is it worth using solid biofuel as biomass burner fuel?

or should i stick to regular biomass

[fluid sapphire]

ofc its worth it

[tall lodge]

Solid biofuel can be automated relatively cheaply.

[weak bloom]

Honestly it's so refreshing to finally have a game that makes my 9800x3d work for a living. It's been coasting for long enough, time to pick up the pace xD

[valid glade]

i agree hahaha

[tall lodge]

If you do not want to bumrush for coal its definitely worth it. Especially if you start in the grasslands start because there coal is a bit of a trip.

[cold walrus]

alright tysm

[west jackal]

yeah, only issue is i need more ram LOL

[valid glade]

how much do you have??

[tall lodge]

Rip with the current prices.

[weak bloom]

I've got a 5080 TUF, 9800x3d, and 64GB ram 6000 cl30, can't wait to see what it takes for my game to actually start dropping frames LMAO

[tropic juniper]

automate the solid biofuel process. it's so worth it not having to fill the leaf bin as often

[west jackal]

32

[west jackal]

all of that i have except 4080 super OC

[weak bloom]

I built this in April 2025.....inadvertently one of the best financial decisions of my life...... x_x

[tall lodge]

Me here gaming on a measly Ryzen 5 3600 and 16 gigs of ddr 4 ram. My most expensive part was the 4070

[fluid sapphire]

what you need more than 32 for?

[crimson robin]

guys i got screenshots now, ill send to your dms

just tell me who can check ss to tell their opinion

[valid glade]

literally my exact build except i have the rog astral 5080

[crimson robin]

check your dm please

[jagged nymph]

well look at you mr. fancy pants

[tropic juniper]

i got a gigabyte 4080 with an i7 12700k, 64gb of ddr4 3600mhz, with cl15 so they're pretty comparable in performance to a lot of ddr5 kits. 1440p performance for me is beautiful. i don't think 4k gaming is worth it since games aren't created with the kind of detail that benefits 4k. it's just a gimmick to me.

[fluid sapphire]

we have a screenshots channel?

[tropic juniper]

i suspect this machine will carry my gaming needs for another 5-6 years if it doesn't fry itself

[crimson robin]

alright check it

[valid glade]

nuh uh

[tropic juniper]

games aren't really getting more demanding either

[jagged nymph]

i need a gpu upgrade

[crimson robin]

i sent in screenshot chat

[tall lodge]

they can't really because most people only last year or two years ago upgraded to the GPU equivalent of a 3060

[minor cedar]

guys i have a question

[tall lodge]

Hardware has become so prohibitively expensive that a lot of people got priced out of the market

[jagged nymph]

dontasktoask.com

[west jackal]

i did mine like launch week of the 9800x3d,november of 24, i shouldve waited for 5 series gpu, but i was tired of the old POS

[minor cedar]

are the different map options at the start just different spawn locations on one map

[jagged nymph]

they are all on one massive map

[west jackal]

yessir

[valid glade]

yes

[tall lodge]

Yes its the same map but a different starting position on it

[west jackal]

you can travel to another location if you chose. generally, youll have factories around the whole map

[jagged nymph]

yeah starting location doesnt really make a big difference tbh

[minor cedar]

yeh i just found the dune desert while exploring and im like wha

[unkempt blade]

unless you started in the dunes then it's literally unplayable

[west jackal]

i mean... you should always start in dune desert though

the dunes is the bestest location

[rapid cypress]

Hi!
i want to make a quick question as i didnt find anything in google...
I have factory "A" that makes copper sheets, and factory B and C that uses them, factory C needs to be reached by train.
i need to send from factory A 200 copper sheets to factory C, and only 90 to factory B (i satisfy this demand from A)
do i need two separate truck stations and trucks in factory A to divide the load between the recipents, or can i use only one truck station?

[jagged nymph]

true

[west jackal]

you said reached by trains for factory C, is it truck or tarin to factory C?

[rapid cypress]

first truck then train

[minor cedar]

i started on grassy fields cuz first time playing this game

[rapid cypress]

truck goes to the train

[crimson robin]

guys so uh can anyone please answer my question

[west jackal]

why do you have truck taking to train?

either run the train to factory A, or have truck go the whole way

[jagged nymph]

i like rocky desert, nothern forrest has a lot of good nodes but its hard to buld in

[rapid cypress]

because factory A is medium distance to train station

[jagged nymph]

and we dont talk about dune dessert

[native stream]

should i prioritise: DD expansion, upload speed, power augmenter or production amplifier?

[west jackal]

add train station at factory for factory C, though?

[rapid cypress]

not so far to make another train station, but not so enar to run belts

[jagged nymph]

?

[west jackal]

production amp then DD expansion is my go to

[crimson robin]

damn

[west jackal]

i mean... id just... make another train station or run belts

i avoid trucks (atleast untill 1.2) when i can

[rapid cypress]

im playing with 1.2 so i wanted to make use of them

[native stream]

would the power one help? im always battling with energy and trying to make enough of them. part of the issue isnt having access to the synthetic crystals

[west jackal]

okay, the point still stands that its likely easier to move train station. But to answer your original question, 1 truck station should be able to move 300 sheets/min pretty easily, you might need multiple trucks, but 1 station should be enough

[west jackal]

you wont have synthetic untill late game, but production amp doubles the crystals you get from slugs

the power one is only something like 10% amp, so its good, but its expensive on sloops, and they are better off at that point (imo) being used for production amplification

that said, i have a power amp built, but it is only providing like 4GW at the moment, so it doenst do a whole lot

[native stream]

i see

[west jackal]

you can do whatever you feel like. Synthetic shards are way off if youre deciding on what to research in that tree atm though

its been something like 90H in this save since i researched all of that (not all of the upgrades for DD mind you) but im taking it slow, still working on aluminum

[native stream]

i’m just struggling with energy, storage and production. i have several overclocked generators but i cant keep up with the current demand. as i progress i need larger storage, as im building several factories dotted around the map. and the production would help to give me a boost in about everything tbh

but it’s mostly an energy issue

storage is secondary

[west jackal]

er, i would say more often then not i dont build any large storage. i normally just have 1 isc with overflow sinked

[west jackal]

and the production amp when you use it, requires 4x the power for that machien

[fickle wraith]

how do i clear remaining fluid inside a generator

[west jackal]

what phase/tier are you on

[native stream]

i’ve got most stuff stored in the cloud, however the extra storage it provides would be nice.

[west jackal]

elaborate

[native stream]

5/6

[west jackal]

1 isc is enough before dim depot

[west jackal]

how much power you have

i think i completed that phase with 30GW

(only using half of it)

[fickle wraith]

theres rocket fuel stuck inside a generator, but only a miniscule amount such as that it doesnt get burned, but I have a new fluid coming trough the pipes but the generators wont accept them as long as they have rocket fuel

[west jackal]

you can drag it to trash can in your inventory

im pretty sure, you can do that on refiners and blenders atleast

[fickle wraith]

thx

[native stream]

1,687.5 MW - PROD + CAP
1,657.5 MW - MAX CONS

current

[west jackal]

..

why do you have .5 MW

[native stream]

all the gens are overclocked

[jagged nymph]

thats like not much

[native stream]

no idea

[jagged nymph]

just setup a single oil node making fuel and run it into generators

[west jackal]

i had 5x that ammount in t3

[native stream]

im guessing i underclocked something

[west jackal]

well id suggest fixing that

[native stream]

the coal generators?

[jagged nymph]

ohh thats with coal

[west jackal]

BUT, best solution, hook up 600 crude oil into a diluted packaged fuel plant

with 600 crude you can get 20GW

and its easy as balls to setup if you make 2 blueprints

[native stream]

yeah. i have like 7 (could be more) off the top of my head, all are overclocked

[west jackal]

okay thats not a great plan

it is much easier to just do 3:8

you have 8 coal generators with 3 water extracotrs all at 100%

this requires 120 coal/min per row of 8 gens

[wild hollow]

Do you guys make one factory per item, or are there some items you skip entirely?

[native stream]

i did, but it doesn’t support my setups demand. that’s why i overclocked them.

[west jackal]

then you just scale with the ammount of coal you have. with mk2 miners normal nodes will make 240/min (powering 16 gens) at 200%

[west jackal]

you should build more instead of overclocking

for that low of stuff atleast

[native stream]

youre saying i need to go back to the gens and see if i have upgraded it?

[west jackal]

now, me about to build 1020 fuel generators (if i overclock) i should

[jagged nymph]

no hes saying dont even overclock any coal generators, just build more of them at 100 percent clock speed

[west jackal]

i cant tell you what you need to do, i have no idea what your factory looks like, how the plant is setup, or if you have everything working fine.

i just wouldnt recommend overclocking them

id save OC for things that matter more (in my opnion)

[little cobalt]

i much prefer overclocking extractors instead of gens personally

full pipes are nice

[west jackal]

yes, and hell yes

FPAHP

[tall lodge]

Yeah rather scale vertical then horizontal is the way to go. Takes more upfront setup but in the long run it always pays off.

[native stream]

if i do that, i’d need the miners to overclock, if not upgraded if it hasn’t been already. if i do that, it would exceed MK3 belts which is what i have rn and i can’t afford that

[west jackal]

huh? i dont like going vertical for coal plants

[jagged nymph]

? no it uses the same amount of total coal whether theyre overclocked or not

[tall lodge]

vertical as in building more instead of fewer more potent ones (aka overclocking), not in terms of height just to be clear.

[west jackal]

okay, A. you can overclock mk2 miner to make 240 ona pure node. this powers 16 gens

[west jackal]

oh, makes more sense, thank you

[west jackal]

and B, more importantly. its much easier/better to overclck miners early game than the extractors

[tall lodge]

was refering to vertical scaling versus horizontal scaling because my brain went there

[native stream]

i have it setup where one belt feeds three overclocked gens that have splitters and all feeding into them.

[west jackal]

no, i know, i understand now

[west jackal]

this is a recipe for disaster

[jagged nymph]

that doesnt change anything

[west jackal]

but yea, doesnt change anything

[native stream]

in other words, one belt for every three gens

[little cobalt]

i used drones and flying around hand feeding a lot in the last phase of my first playthrough. i think it was a lot faster to actually beat the game. but this time around i'm going to try making more individualized factories for fun i think

[west jackal]

again, this is a BAD idea, but you can play however you want

i dont want to step on your toes, you just asked for guidance, so im providing from my experience, ive tried it like that before and it didnt end well. it makes the water weird, and it doesnt scale well with coal gens

because 3@250% < 8 @100%

doesnt scale well

[native stream]

so what’s the ideal scale?

[west jackal]

8 gens, this scales well.

[native stream]

in relation to the belts

[west jackal]

on impure node, with miner mk2 at 200% this makes 120 coal/min and uses it. (this is baseline) on normal node you can use mk1 @200% or mk2 @100% for 8 gens

[native stream]

right

[west jackal]

if you put mk2 @200% this does 240 coal/min and feeds 16 gens

and a mk2 @ 100% on a pure node does 240/min and feeds 16 gens

[native stream]

i have 3 normal and 2 pure nodes iirc

[west jackal]

and every 8 gens take 3 water pumps.

[tall lantern]

3 water extractors, 8 gens, 120/min coal is a pretty good module size yeah

[west jackal]

not trying to mess with 3 OC coal gens, because that cant reach 120/min

and @native stream your t5, unlock mk4 belts

[tall lantern]

why'd we want to OC coal gens

[west jackal]

then you can do 480/min and feed 32 gens from each pure node

BUT

youre t5/6

you should make dpf plant

and just.. tear down the coal afterwards

[tall lantern]

eh, you can leave the coal if it's working

[west jackal]

i dont think it was working perfect

[tall lantern]

unless you actively need that (and for some reason can't just use a different spot)

[tall lantern]

fair

[minor vale]

saves space

[west jackal]

i mean he is weirldy utilizing pure nodes

and there is NO point saving marginal space on overclocking coal gens out in the ocean

[tall lantern]

I doubt the average player is building anywhere near enough coal gens for that to be a concern vs the available space

[west jackal]

just build a second story and add some pumps if its that big of a deal

[tall lantern]

as a rough order of magnitude, most players like end up at oil power with somewhere between 8 and 64 coal gens

[west jackal]

i have 80 🙂

[tall lantern]

a rare breed 😛

[west jackal]

then i built 20GW of fuel from 600 crude

to jump to 600 something GW of rocket fuel in crater

[minor vale]

space is almost never a concern
The map is big

it save sspace
because not every one wants to build a bunch of gens
or structures.

[west jackal]

if you HAVE to, you should do 4 @200%, not 3 at some weird clocking

[ornate saffron]

Some want to erect generators and spread them over a biome

[west jackal]

4@200 scales way nicer than whatever he was doing with the 3 generators that CANNOT reach 120/min coal

[tall lantern]

sure, but coal's not something you tend to build in particular bulk. Usually groups of 8 or 16 at a time.
but yes, if you're gonna OC 'em, 200% will be much tidier

[minor vale]

I dissagree
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1485799355402158091/image.png?ex=69c3d6bb&is=69c2853b&hm=acd960c04a7aadc95f6af141687a8ca6005784746b088fb1935292268e0388e4&
I like having a lot of pwoer.

[west jackal]

again hyper, not trying to step on toes, just pointing out things ive learned over time

[west jackal]

so do i, but 10GW is enough to get to fuel.

[native stream]

it’s fine, i appreciate it. basically just scrap the current setup and rebuild it to account for more gens

[west jackal]

you dont have to, just add on some gens and play with clock speeds

[minor vale]

and that image I just posted produces about 9.6GW

[west jackal]

either add 1 more and do 4 @200% or 5 more and do 8@100

[little cobalt]

fuel power is super good once you have access to it. i'd invest your brain power into that instead of going too hard on coal imo

[west jackal]

i dont ahve picture in game i can send the overhead from scim

but you are not having it dense

[minor vale]

the fact is that it's sitll like... iirc 160 or something Gens like that. (i'm not bothering to recount rn I built this 2 years ago)

And overclocking them I could've probably cut thatn umber down by half at least and gotten the exact asme input output.

[echo hearth]

Any tips on how to decorate factories? i only have big platforms now

[west jackal]

okay wait, i may only have 7GW from coal and then 3gw from geothermal. but still, you wasted a lot of room by only expanding on one direction

and overclocking is your choice, its just something that i dont like to waste on coal gens

[little cobalt]

buy the pretty stuff from awesome shop. walls and beams are your bread and butter but there's lots of options

making blueprints for big chunks of architecture helps a lot

[minor vale]

"waste"
via sloops you can get hundreds of power shards long before you can produce them endlessly.
And overclocking the power generating building itself doesn't loose you effeciency of power in versus power out.

[echo hearth]

I seeee, but the awesome sink is so slow. Are there any faster methods?

[west jackal]

okay? its still wasting them early game when space is effectively endless

[west jackal]

sink better items

[wild hollow]

Blueprint every decoration. Build decorative walls in blueprinter and add them to your platforms. You can then load those same decorations to the blueprinter again if you want to edit something.

Also, there's practical uses to customizing the look of your factory, such as hiding belts, which can improve CPU performance.

Watch YT tutorials on how to add depth and stuff, and of course, #design-and-architecture 🙂

[west jackal]

if you just put overflow sink on all production chains, youll build tickets in no time

and i think its only like 100 tickets or something to get the cosmetic items

[echo hearth]

I'll try that. Thanks for the tips

[wild hollow]

Pillars are awesome, signs too.

[dire wagon]

How do i find coal sources with water sources near?

[wild hollow]

What was your starter location?

[dire wagon]

Are there known spots? When i started the game i feel like i set up myself in a bad location

[little cobalt]

a few early tips for the sink: if you find a uranium ore node, sink the ore directly. ai limiters are often easy to automate and sink. sloop your alien protein then sloop your dna to quadruple dip on those tickets

[dire wagon]

the green area

[west jackal]

absolutely known spots. the map isnt randomized

unless youre in 1.2 exp and turned on random nodes lol

[echo hearth]

Fantastic I'll be on the look out. Only on tier 3 rn though. Did a full reset at 4 or something because i had no idea how to make ratios on factories and just built everything on the ground

[cunning glade]

Wait actually

[dire wagon]

im on the latest stable so nope xd. should i just google them or is it cheating?

[cunning glade]

Holy peak

[little cobalt]

you can survive uranium radiation long enough to set up an automated miner > sink without the rad suit fwiw. good luck :)

[jagged nymph]

nothing is cheating, its a single player sandbox game

theres scim to know node locations

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

can also show alot of other useful things

[wild hollow]

That's a nice tool. You can also drop your saved game in there to get an overview over literally everything you've built.

[little cobalt]

to the northwest a little from your spawn you should find a lake with 3 coal nodes nearby. it's ideal for coal power

[jagged nymph]

and other stuff like editing machines/upgrading belts

[little cobalt]

if you want a tip without full-blown map "cheating"

[jagged nymph]

im gonna use it to mass upgrade my like 20km of belts

ok not 20km but its alot

cause i am NOT doing allat by hand

[tall lantern]

shouldn't have to do it at all

[jagged nymph]

oh yes i will

[west jackal]

"cheating" is how you define it. i use SCIM to plan factories. I dont use scim to cheat like a350, but i use it for planning

[jagged nymph]

im bringing in 19 different nodes and each one needs a full 480 belt

[teal marsh]

are the min sys requirements same for the server version (epic games dedicated server host software) or just client?

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game. Don't worry about how other people play

except for all you degenerate no-screws types who are clearly not playing the game how the benevolent and all knowing creators intended

[west jackal]

thats what i was saying, cheating is what you feel it is

[jagged nymph]

i mean im not cheating in the materials, just upgrading the belts. Im pretty sure theres an option to upgrade using materials in chests but if not ill jsut delete like 2 full chests of eibs to compensate

[west jackal]

i was just teasing a350

[tall lantern]

victimless cheating

[teal marsh]

ignored..

[dire wagon]

if only.. i knew

[tall lantern]

better than a flurry of "dunno"

[dire wagon]

i set up my shi in a random place thinking

its alright i guess, this floating island is cool

[teal marsh]

honestly it isnt

[tall lantern]

tbf you'll be expanding over the whole map anyway, don't worry too much about any one area

[unkempt blade]

unlike avoiding screws which is self-victimization because you're denying yourself fun recipe chains

[jagged nymph]

steel screws

[west jackal]

no, remove screws. anti-screw propoganda

just kidding Cartman

[tall lantern]

noob: screws bad
intermediate: screws easy, just get rid of 'em
expert: screws easy, plenty of solutions to their logistics

[unkempt blade]

respect my cart-thority!

[little cobalt]

screws are anti-manifold propaganda

[jagged nymph]

real

[unkempt blade]

you just get more mini manifolds so it's actually pro-manifold

[jagged nymph]

no they arent ytou just cant make a massive manifold

[little cobalt]

if i can't use my pretty 10-constructor blueprints why live

[jagged nymph]

theres no constructor recipe that uses screws

[unkempt blade]

to experience true joy by building a factory cart skate park

[tall lantern]

or dismantling said skate park

[weak bloom]

As an engineer I acknowledge that fasteners are EVERYWHERE in real construction and also I don't want to deal with that nonsense in my escapist factory entertainment dang it

.....which is probably why I'll never play SF+

[tall lantern]

then you are free to take the intermediate option

[little cobalt]

they are what make the screw, silly. screws are fine though, i just don't like dealing with belt saturation when i don't have to :)

[jagged nymph]

alright lets rename the screw item to "good amazing fun item" and retexture it to a poorly drawn smily face

then its not screws anymore

[unkempt blade]

I do love stuff that's good, amazing, and fun....

[jagged nymph]

True...

[little cobalt]

then again i did just belt copper like 600m to get stitched plates at a facility with plenty of iron. maybe the screw avoidance is a little excessive

[jagged nymph]

Didnt think about that

[low roost]

Do you guys bring your materials to a main area to craft it into stuff or craft stuff near the miners and then send them to an area where you combine all of them?

[tall lantern]

neither, at least beyond the early game

[austere trellis]

Any one else having trouble accessing the wiki today?

[tall lantern]

generally advised to craft stuff near the resources, but you don't then have to move it anywhere, with some tech from the MAM's ||Alien Tech|| tree making it unnecessary

in the early game the most you'd probably need to travel is for, like, steel

[low roost]

What do you mean? How do you do it then

[west jackal]

i dont do either. i skip onboarding and immediately make basic productions

[tall lantern]

and that's not a huge travel

[low roost]

Oh the portal things

I actually did not think about that

I dont know if i can unlock them with what i have now at phase 2