#satisfactory
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kinda sounds like you set too high expectations :p
mmm 417.857 steel beams a minute sounds like a good figure
up from 225 just by adding one pipe of water
not 256.9234?
no because thats wasteful
not using blueprints for everything too made it a lot more enjoyable
I know right
how is getting carpal tunnel clicking belts between spplitters for huors and hours fun
I still use them sometimes but its way more fun when I do it myself imo
the fun part is the planning
i find decorating more fun :p
I also enjoy planning
planning is w/e just take stuff make into other stuff
makign it look cool is where its at for me :p
I got my friend to get satisfactory and I started a new save with him but hes really bad at it
we all start somewhere
for me it is squeezing out as much resources as possible out of nodes
even if the number is a beautiful decimal value
I had to explain a basic rat-tail factory to my brother. It's fine, that's just how it goes sometimes
yeah he wasnt that bad and he wasnt bored I think because we played for like 3 hours
#screenshots message perfect
he was just a lil confused with everything
EWWWWWW
wtf do you mean eww
its 139.285 the ideal amount
that number...
Best ratio. Now clip it
Not trusting google but are the alts fir modular frames worth hunting for.
if you think they are
every single alt in the game is personal preference
All alts are worth it in some regard
none of them are objectively better than others, they all have their use cases
depends what you're after
some replace coal with oil, you can use oil products (rubber) to replace and extend other resources
some other alts reduce the cost overall
yeah, alts always trade off some quantity for another, either simpler design for lower throughput, higher throughput for more complexity etc etc
for example you can reduce the base cost of HMFs by -75% (iron) -50% (coal limestone) pretty easily
or sometimes its simply different materials, not neccesarily more or less of anything
Ohh im talking about base frames not heavy 😭
same thing applies
oh well similar thing then for any item really.
sometimes the recipes can be more convenient.
for example I often like Steeled Frame early on , I use steel pipes for a lot of thigns and it simplifies things
with Stitched Plate + iron wire
Iron pipe and iron wire are two personal favorites
later on I usually do Steel Screw, Bolted Plate + Bolted Frame
Yee cause I was on the fence on hunting for that one but idk if its good for the ling run
They all have their place
always good in the long run, all the recipes have their uses.
Except Iron Pipe.
😭
no iron pipe has a use
what if youre using every bit of coal on the map for power
I'm reading the wiki and apparently you can't sink alien protein
Why???
they should buff all screw recipes to give much higher throughput to spite all the anti screw pioneers
It's just such a waste of iron when you find Coal+iron everywhere xD
cause you turn it into dna capsules to sink it
It's nice when you just need a little pipe
Okay but the wiki says it physically wont let you sink the protien
coal is everywhere! xD
Just cuz something is inefficient doesn't mean the game should physically stop you from doing that :(
i know, thats because you have to turn it into dna capsules first
I mean I'm not going to lie - iron pipe is stupidly resource inefficient
But it's so convenient when I'm lazy
Well okay...
Moving on, I'm still trying to understand how AWESOME sinks work
imeanlowkeyyoucouldjustbringinacoalbelt
item goes in, make point, give ticket
It feels very weird. Arekke all the sinks in my world linked up?
Why is it that when I go to a new area to make a factory, and sink some concrete, I immediately get 20 tickets
?
Is that intended. It's very confusing
why do you sink concrete when you go to a new factory
It feels like the sinks are linked up based up region or something
no
they are all linked up...
its worldwide
Every sink in a certain region seems to be linked.
they are all linked up
all sinks. everywhere
I'm not on my pc rn but I will show what I mean later
item goes in, makes point, when get enough point you get ticket
you don't need to be on your pc. all the sinks are linked
No see that doesn't make any sense cuz the sink at my starter area says I can redeem 8 tickets while a different one in my magnetic field generator area says I can redeem like 50
that shouldnt happen
Is this a glitch???
seems like it
I'll show you guys when I'm on pc
you probably didn't look at them for a while
is there a color picker in satisfactory? i forgot the hex of what some of my belts are
They're definitely all supposed to be linked
no but you have the swatch saved
And I can redeem them individually too
its a custom swatch
oh
am i fucked
Like I can go and redeem them for total of 58, for example
You might be screwed
generally you dont want to do a custom swatch unless you have a good reason
yeah that shouldnt happen, do you have any mods?
I have one that makes trains 5 times faster
That's it
mod name?
Let me remember
It was called speedy trains redux I think
I don't think that is the issue tho ngl
and youre sure you have nothing else installed
Nope
i should really use foundries more often
do you not?
no
how... how do you make steel then?
more often
steel is like the main thing you make there
yes but there are sooooo many alternative recipes that use it
To be fair, with the amount of alts, you can completely skip steel
Guys I need like 5000 nuclear pasta to finish the game right? I have them all in a container. Is it okay to start sinking everything now?
?
I put a bunch of nuclear pasta in some containers for future use. I am going to start sinking any new pasta that the factory makes
you need a total of 1100 nuclear pasta for the requirements + a little more for singularity cells for the ballistic warp drives but you also need singularity cells for ficsonium fuel rods and portals
you cant avoid steel beams without steel
or well
technically theres aluminium beams but why
if you have aluminum surplus
Fuel rods? I don't use nuclear
Why the skull emoji
then 5000 is enough to finish off the space elevator
assuming you wont do nuclear or portals
Maybe I'll do portals? Do they need a constant supply of pasta or something?
I haven't reached portals yet
constant supply of singularity cells, which use nuclear pasta to make
each pair of portals needs i think 2 singularity cells per minute, and one pasta makes 10 cells, so its 0.2 pasta/minute per pair of portals
Wtfff
what
That's very expensive
not really
its not if you have nuclear power to produce things with !
even if you only do 1 pasta/minute, thats 5 pairs of portals
which should be enough if you have 5 main areas
even if you just do like 5 nuclear pasta thats 25 pairs of portals which is way more than enough for most people
I'm pretty sure I'm doing 5 per min rn
#screenshots message my 8 foundry blueprint is complete
lemme pull up mine rq
😭 wtf u guys make such cool and effeicnet builds
lol right, when I see how people do stuff I wanna look up how to do good builds but then I'm not learning anything myself
I made a pretty good smart sorting setup but even that I'm sure people could make way cleaner
Fair but how can you learn without any inspiration 🤔
everyone started out in that position, as you play through a couple playthroughs youll eventually learn it
mayhaps
Step 1 - play the game
Step 2- learn overtime
step 3 - ????
step 4 - profit
I think once you understand how manifolds work you can just try random stuff, I did a lot of dumb shit that didn't work today but I'm learning the game better
All my Factories ugly. They're all concrete foundations with machines on top. Nothing else.
and I copied a layout for a coal plant cause I really didn't want to learn the fluid stuff by trial and error
I need inspiration
Step 1 - play the game
Step 2- learn overtime
step 3 - ????
step 4 - profit ||Ficsit Abandonment||
my factory is just manifolds, as kibitz would say, out the hwha-zoo
yeah if I try to make my factory look like experienced players I'm kinda skipping the problem solving part of the game
first playthrough should be kinda messy lol
I'm thinking of making a centralized depot for some basic resources (like coal). The idea is that I can have trains moving resorces from nodes to the depot, and separate trains moving resources from the depot to individual factories. Thoughts?
GS98
oh you should see my first... 3 playthroughs
I just gotta figure out what I'm gonna do for storage, I legit just have random containers everywhere and they fill up and stop production
i may replace it for a unicomp minim someday
and I don't have any sinks lmao I spent all my morning playtime figuring out how to use two blueprints for a modular block of 8 storage containers and then a set of smart splitters and mergers to flow extras into a sink and then had to stop playing
my factory still looks like the person making had a stroke
I am in love with the new vehicle system in the experimental branch.
Loaded into a save of mine turning on creative mode and rebuilt my tractor network.
Seeing how well it works now, I wish we had this years ago.
I might just run a line of storage on one side of the factory and run straight belts to each of them from the production instead of using my fancy smart sorter thingy
my biggest issue with my first playthroughs was that i just... didnt really automate anything unless i had to, i would legit afk craft for like an hour making computers or whatever. Even if you just make a little bit of everything, thats way better than making none
and usually, once you get started, its much easier than you thought itd be
just having the splitters spaced out and a few sinks along that side seems easier I'm sick of messing with storage lol I wanna automate
A350 is so right, honestly
yeah I'm probably gonna automate everything before I move on even if it's just a shitty temporary factory with one assembler
😭 oh god all ik abijt liquids are that the pipes can support up to 2 and a bit (2 4m foundations and 1 2m one) before needing a pump lol
yeah no reason to mix items just to sort them again
well did you? did you have a stroke?
absolutely worth it honestly.
Letting a machine slow run in the background while you do other random stuff can often get you going well off on future construction projects.
As long as you have enough sorage for whatever item its making.
I mean either way I was gonna run a belt for each output into a storage container, with a smart splitter on the way
yeah, when i unlock a new part, i just go ahead and automate it, even if its jsut a bit. Instead of looking at the phases as the main goal, i look at automating parts as a main goal, and only after ive automated everything there is to autopmate in the current phase will i move on to the next one
i tried star rupture and i did not like it
yeah I try to have stuff going all the time but I'm using storage containers to feed most of my assemblers
oo maybe ill get it
guys just a dumb question.. The water runs out? Like, a lake, small, does the water will end?
I had so much extra materials from early automation stuff I just used it for the next stuff
which is fine.
You don't have to min max every thing.
unless it's a power setup, minmax your electricity. always.
it looks like satisfactory just more futuristic
there are no limited resources in the game
(other than stuff you have to hand pickup like hadr drives or slugs)
yeah the one thing I looked up and copied directly was the standard 3 water/8 coal power setup
With exception of collectibles and alien artifacts.
i could give my save to you if you wanted lol
those also aren't limited
thats good, i didnt know, im new at the game
just sloops and spheres are
I would have made my life difficult if I tried to just send water from 3 extractors randomly into pipes for 8 extractors lol... idk if it would have worked with a water tower on one end or what but I definitely wouldn't have known to make a loop or to inject water at certain points
I always go way over the top on my power setups.
this is what my last coal power plant looked like.
#screenshots message
You can also manufacture shards, which obviates the need for slugs, and you can buy hard drives with tickets
but slugs are still limited other than doggos
yeah don't do water towers
jesus christ lmao
not if doggos can bring them 🙂
errr maybe I should move my coal generators out of the lake
I rush a few milestones with things I bought with tickets sometimes
Is 45 coal gens eith the miners at base clocking alot?
it seemed really easy to just have everything in one spot but I don't have a ton of room
thats completely subjective
Insert Father i must be vertical meme
don't worry it gets worse
I made this a couple years ago.
And it's still on my world to this day.
#design-and-architecture message
Valid
45 is a pretty normal number of coal gens, thats about what i usually do
If that is the play style you want you can always go up.
Space is the resources we have the most of, then water
Could u technically set up one sink and wait enough time to buy your way to victory?
Pay to win 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Well, yes, but slugs being limited is not a limiting factor in any way other than... you can't have infinite slugs. They serve no purpose other than becoming shards.
Ive never done more then 32 :/ not sure what that says about me lol
I think I have enough room to be fine with the way I'm doing it until I figure out oil power
thats not the point though, i never said its a limiting factor, just that it is limited. Because someone asked if water is limited, so i was saying the only limited resources are stuff you have to manually collect
pretty sure I can fit 40 coal gens without having to figure out how to make pipes work over a longer distance
How would you "buy" that?
but tickets arent how you beat the game?
Like, buy all the parts for project assembly
cant do that
I have to go walk the dog but all I want to do is fix my storage and belts and sink situation why is this game so addictive
Not all items are possible to buy
trade in dog for cat. Cat likes wqarm laps and pc;s
this one gets it
the FOMO of min/maxing will cause decision paralysis
mine just likes food
lol yeah I'm trying to be chill
unless it's a powersetup.
min maxing your power setup is always valid because I never awnt to hear that broken cuircuit noise ever again.
I really have to do something about my factory being littered with overflowing containers though even if I don't go back and optimize my random bullshit automtions
any time I get anywhere close to max consumption I go make 8 more coal gens lol. and I still have my 15 biofuel gens with a container full of fuel for backup
Just sink em
I still haven't even overclocked anything yet lol I gotta make at least one awesome production chain today
sometimes the game jumpscares me and says one of the power grids died even though its fine... gives me a heart attack everytime
(probably hard drive sites)
yeah I just spent a ton of time this morning trying to figure out the logistics of this
Lol fair
and I still don't know how I'm going to do it lmao
I set up fancy blueprints to input 8 lines of stuff into one storage for each, with smart splitters to send overflow to the sink, I should probably use those cause it's modular but it would also be way easier to just make a line of containers and keep the splitting further apart
worry about a good factory when I get mk4 stuff hmmm
wait til mk6 before automating iron plates for peak efficiency (as the milestone name would suggest)
#screenshots message
few years ago I built this on one of my saves.
it's a compact coal burning power plant. (there's also a quickwire factory beside but that's not relevant)
it contains 126 coal gens (unless I misscounted.) for about 9.4GW of power.
It relies on 3 tractors continously supplying it with 2 different sulphur sources in the desert, as well as a bit of supllimentery coal delivery from a fourth tractor.
Don't need to make it fancy just have either belts feeding i to like a few containers to sink or have vehicle send em
i've never needed the sulphur or coal for any thing else so I'vej ust left it run.
been looking at it again recently because it was a great way to test out the new vehicle route system. which is amazing.
yeah my factory is just such a mess it's a hassle to set up lol
so many containers everywhere
I have a personal system I use to help keep things organized.
gotta figure out how to get belts to the back side, I'm too impatient to make a logistics floor for this shitty newb base
yer gonna burn yourself out on that base rebuild 👀
just send all your belts to space and do your logistics there so you never have to see it
-# /j
don't make a logistics floor
use a logistics channel
(or a main bus/bus system as normal people might call it)
It is especially helpful early on.
#design-and-architecture message
example of my way of doing it.
#design-and-architecture message
setup basic buildings to define factory spaces for production lines.
Doesn't have to look good.
Just defines a space. and if you need more space
You add floors and build up.
ok cool I'll look at this after I walk the dog
What?? How do you minmax a power setup. What is being "min" Here exactly???
Minimum ammount of times i have to hear my power go out
yeah I might need a second floor my first floor is such a mess
That's fair I guess
this will be tricky with me mashing everything so close together but I can probably make some lanes
especially with steel stuff, I got that awesome alt recipe so I don't mind redoing some foundrys with blueprints
anyway dog walk I'm gonna yap until it's dark out thanks for the input
it's less a matter of floors and more a matter of managing space.
you want to setup a production line to build let's say reinforced iron plates.
put fences or wahtever down on a 3 by 3 or however big grid of foundations you want. start placing buildings. And then if you need more space, add the next floor. Visual decorative support columns not needed.
keeps the belt and spagetti of that line contained within a specific area
ANd then you have designated spot somewhere on the side of the area for resources to go in and out of.
bonus points if you research quartz and put signs down to mark inputs and outputs.
i'm a big fan of putting signs for bigger builds. get a section done, slap a sign down on where that belt is supposed to go, zoom over somewhere else
Would have been funny if mixing sulphur with water just detonated your machines
Yeah but I have no idea how much space I need lol. And my beginner factory is all smashed together already 😂
Here's the secret.
You will never quite know how much space you need.
Tou might get a feel for it in time but not really.
So, just add another floor
I think I gotta wrap my head around tidy builds on a single floor before I try to stack stuff?
trying to fit 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag is never fun and will never work the way you want
Yeah my next factory is gonna leave lots of space between stuff lol
I think my factory is honestly not that bad for a first playthrough. It's just annoying now that I'm trying to figure out storage belt nonsense
It's more a matter of the constraints you give yourself to work in are meant to help you keep track of where stuff is going and reduce the sprawl
ironic, ran out of steel beams while building the steal beam factory
whats the blue crater lake coords
make moar steel beam
follow me 4 moar life advice
im so lost
yknow what I think I should try to make a guide to helping people organize their early factories better.
i'd chip in on it!
Sounds great, I made such a mess of mine lol
I think I'd rather fuck it up than follow a detailed guide though. Some guidelines would be nice tho?
it happens lol
going to be honest it took me till my third save (I quit like, 2 times not wanting to destroy and rebuild every thing) before I started to get the hang of a personal organization system I liked.
Someone told me earlier if it's shitty and it works just keep it and make new stuff no need to destroy, I like that mindset
yes, that's golden advice
I might as well have stuff going into a sink and near unlimited resources to work with while I fuck around on a better version of my factory
Never give yourself enough space and always expand horizontally with the default foundation when needed
i have my reservations about it
you would NEVER rebuild an entire region
I could just redo it on a foundation above or something lol. I might actually do that, automate one of everything with and set up overflow sinks properly
I mean my main factory is basically everything I've done in my whole playthrough, redoing it would kinda suck
the nice thing is, depending on your belt speed, if you have everything in one area, you could get away with one sink 👀
I think I have two limestone nodes making concrete and one copper node making random shit that I always forget about... And my coal plant but everything else is all in one big sprawled factory
I might try one sink per eight storage containers
Almost done with the 417.856/min steel beam factory
wow, low. i would've made at least 417.857/min
im in your head
that's a scary place tbh
meh ive seen scarier
dam
you guys know that satisfactory calculator where you paste prints?
how do i download it after i pasted it?
Hi! I say the Satisfactory VR mod is absolutely worth it! But I'm biased - I'm the mod author. 😆
It does require a pretty powerful PC for a good experience though as Satisfactory isn't optimised for VR.
roughly when will 1.2 release 
hi guys, newb here 42 hrs in. Just restarted in the new experimental patch. Just wondering whats the advantage of the new pipe T junction instead of the normal pipe junction?
it looks nicer when you only need one connection :)
That's a very... vague question
cleaner i believe
brother hop on a call ill share screen i just need to know how to connect these machines
Internet's not good enough for that here, try sharing some screenshots in #screenshots or I can get some shots of how I've got some assemblers hooked up
there are a lot of things in satisfactory that exist strictly because they look nice.
not soon enough
ruh roh raggy
yea speaking of overflow I am Never recycling water in an aluminum setup again.
sick of the water clogs.
i'm just going to sink it into concrete.
the experimental beta is good i just lag like 30 mins and then do a restart
thats why you keep seperate refineries using waste and fresh water. It's the same as making wet concrete but simpler with less resources
I'll consider it
next time around.
When I make a new save for 1.2 and get back to aluminum.
I do like wet concrete though. Never hurts to have it pouring into another DD
AHHHHH sorry, concrete scares me, I have so many factories for it now
Funny think i looked at the little resin factories and was like "i need a splitter for overflow" and forgot
just bought the game, can't even launch in 1.1 and it's crashing in experimental. Common?
experimental is even less stable than 1.1 so idk what you're expecting there.
just trying anything really. Flicking back to 1.1 now
Crashing could be related to GPU/driver stuff.
what GPU are you using.
Crashing in my experience very not common
it's very common if you have an older GPU.
Fixable but common.
Older 😭
Wheeeeee ziplining, I don't zipline very often
Ziplining is underrated
I think I need a parachute first 😂
I build rather elaborate tube networks that mostly eliminate the usefulness of ziplining, but it comes in hand once in a blue moon
ziplines plus power towers = instant access to distant cliffs.
Yeah ziplines have been my main way of getting places faster. I just unlocked the power towers too that would probably make it way better
LOL I also build crazy elaborate power poles and attach a wire to them jusst for ziplining
what is waiting for path reservation mean?
Probably that you haven't closed the block, so the train is waiting for a path reservation becuase it is actually occupying the block it's trying to reserve
It generally means that a train is currently on the path it wants to reserve so if it's just sitting there, it's probably blocking itself
That's actually the status you expect to see most of the time on a Path signal. It means that no train is yet approaching the intersection, and thus no train is trying to reserve a path
ohhhh
Nah, "waiting for path reservation" is the usual "things are good" status on Path Signals. :)
yes that too
🚆 🥳
but it says signal error and every other signal is good
In my head it was the train complaining about that
Man I can’t wait for 1.2 to officially drop
Sometimes you just gotta delete and reconnect tracks until it works, the subsystem that builds routes and paths is... buggy, to say the least
Still crashing on latest driver
WTF man
amyway 1 of u can join the vc and take a look at my screenshare i have no idea why its not working
unfortunately I don't know what could be causing your crashes.
Checking drivers and stuff is a good start but i can't offer any more help.
Probably worth making a thread about it with full details and any screenshots you can provide over in #1038092680493801533
If you had an old GPU there's a workaround because there's issues with old GPUs but you'rs is very new so that's not it at all lmao.
make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images.
How many times have you typed this over the years?
Surely an AI bot that would respond to such questions with "Make a post in #1038092680493801533" would be good. I would welcome that new AI overlord.
I know there's probably a better place for tech help, I just wondered how stable this game was in general. Thanks guys
Just got to dimensional depots and I feel a fool
alr i made a post
FWIW, I rarely see those sorts of issues. I hope someone can help you!
instability is typically a first install thing at worst.
once you figure out whatever unique issue is plaging you, you'll probably never crash again.
I got a few quick fixes off a reddit thread.
I've dismantled the drop pod like 5 times now lol
not giving up
Trust. The game is so worth it
I do trust
On expiremental how do I daisy chain? It keeps telling me no empty connections
You must first research in the MAM
Corrupt ADA is real guys
is 1.2 still in experimental? or is it live?
Yknow with the new vehicle pathing system
we need an option, either for the vehicle or truck station, to pause the vehicel at a station, until it's either fully loaded or unloaded.
would be very helpful with my one route that has 2 differen't pickup points and 1 dropoff. of which the dropoff needs Continously fed in a consistent manner.
whats the easiest way to dispose of 480water per minute
wet concrete
limestone would be a problem
what are you getting the water from
limestone is rather plentiful unless you're using like
A signfigant portion of your world's limestone.
if you legit can't just sink it into concrete, then any of the alt ingot recipies that go through a refinery and use water works..
Or if really nothing else just package it and sink it in cans.
or just feed it back into whatever production its a byproduct of
Put it on a train and drive that train into the ocean
its going back home from where it came from
WAY too many
Not THAT many. There was a time when threads within a channel didn't exist. General chat was a mix of QA, off topic, sat discussion, help, etc.
does the nuke also pop the "regular terrain" destructible rocks?
Just got bombed by a hog with a jetpack. I guess that's a thing...
That's Johnny
Wh-?
Consider yourself lucky. Ive never encountered him in 700 hrs
Oh, is he a random chance spawn?
Something like 1/1000, yes
I assumed it was just in that spot
Huh. Interesting
He's definitely very... Coffeestain
Yeah, 1 in 1000 at "alpha hog" spawnpoints
i think my doggos are teaming up to troll me. they all just gave me wiring
I'm messing around more and more with the new vehicle system
And the fact I got 10+ running around routes that interscet with one another.
And there for Sure needs to be some options to keep vehicles waiting at stations till they can get fully filled or emptied.
still way too many 😛
Did you check the truck station settings?
yo ok so why do 5 computers per min take 80k mw of power
the settings within the truck station are the same as ever
load and unload
Change station name
...whatever replace differing fuel button does/means.
like genuinely wut?
I don't know what planner you're using, but don't https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=L4wE7Yf6g75AvGK4qKSA
about 500mw with base recipes according to tools
im using the satisfactory calculator
yeah... scim calc is not amazing. But you likely did something weird
cause it shouldn't be doing that
is satisfactory tools better?
Was worth a shot to ask. I haven't seen 1.2
I find the user interface is MUCH better ,with better options
idk i was skeptical of it cuz it only supported 1.0 didnt see 1.1 support
and yeah that 80GW is real wird
the recipes havent changed 🙂
oh
since 1.0 anyway
well I mean the vehicle tools are great.
Coming from some one who was happy to ahve 10 tractors running around my world in 1.1.
I just feel that if we're getting this big an overhaul, it'd help if we had those options.
so that multiple trucks/tractors running the same route could contribute to a more consistent or higher level of throughput, that would otherwise be limited by distance, and otherwise currently only fixed by hvaing more truck stations at each end. which could be made uneccecary.
i may have screwed myself over
how so?
i need the cast screws alt recipe but cannot get them since i m in phase 3 now
so its onna take forever
sure you can
that's not how that works.
also you can use steel screw
no like its gonna take forever
very compact
dont have that either
go hard drive hunting 🙂
although i heard thats the best one for screws
thats not the problem the problem is that each one takes a full 10 minutes
may aswell build the computer factory while its at it
I would imagine if I did an oops and drove off the map that tractor is a goner? It's on the map but I ain't getting down there anytime soon.
it helps if you stop selecting alts and hold onto your scanned recipies.
since you can hold down 2 at a time that the next disk(s) cannot re roll.
Dimensional depots do not make it so that I don't need a central storage depot, but my god, they do kinda really help me not want to die before I get it. I hunted Mercer spheres until I decided cheating that one item was more fun for me ;^)
yeah im doing that too
I'm not cheating anything else in. But God I'm glad I did this one
I'll do another run where I don't after for the challenge and intended balance though
Sinks are just limited by input belts?
Correct
I saw a dev comment in a video that driving vehicles off the map uses to cause performance issues cause they persisted down there, so they had to add a check to "kill" them like they do for the player
Ty
research while yo usearch 🙂 you can plop a mam down every time you find one
and do a different project while scanning
yeah im currently working on my computer factory while it scans
I saw that too, hence why I asked. 99.9% sure it's in the void I never hit anything going down saying "O no".
weird, maybe a bug?
Could be, one day when bored I will go have a look see down there.
and you can always build it as if you had those recipes already 🙂
i dont need the screws recipe in the computer factory as it doesnt take any iron
i m planning for the heavy modular frames factory
so im tryna get it before i get to build that one
rocket fuel is such a pain man building the generators takes forever
rocket fuel is easy, the generators needed to set them up is a pain
yes i did say that
I had to setup 400 even at x2 overclocking 🙃
i believe at 2x overclock im setting up 288
so you're doing around 60k power?
definitely consider some of the other alt recipes . You can cut the resource cost by more than half pretty easily
144k
that seems high for the number of gens
not rlly
I did 400 for like 150k
no screws needed, a lot less material https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Lj1lP0kQhlqRuxrci0oV
yeah I guess that makes sense
I should probably overclock stuff I kinda forgot about that lol
I guess I did 200k without realizing
🤷♂️ more power the better
I dont do the math anymore I Just rely on the caluclators
but i might go insane waiting for storage to refill
maybe just this once ill go back and stock on mats
ive already explored the map
im making rocket fuel kind of late
you never explored everything until every slug, mercer sphere, hard drive, and animal is wiped off the map
the factory must grow
uhh both links lead to the same computer factory i m making 5/min
and there no alt recipes in it
ur right
but it's 11pm on a school night so its better putting off till the weekend
fair school is important
well i just got steel screws www
it adds the plans at the end
the 2nd link has no alts , but if you clicked the first one first it should be to the left
are you blueprinting, should be able to do 100 pretty quickly
and you can always just type in '5' into the output
Are fluids split evenly at every pipeline junction like with splitters?
yessss but you want to flood your system anyway so it doesn't make a real difference
liquids also flow backwards if the space behind them is less empty so it's definitely not a bel;t
yes but actually no
Firstly it depends on the direction of travel
Fluids in the game like to follow gravity
So if it's a flat X on the ground like a regular splitter it will do exactly that.
if it's a vertical pipe, and the liquids are going downwards and you split off to the side
it will not go out that side (or at least not go out very much) Until the bottom fills up.
Inversely if youre pushign liquids up and you have a pipe split to the side, it has to fill first and backup before you can go any higher vertically.
Basically though don't trust liquids to ever flow through splits evenly until all the pipes are full. and you did your input output math right. Like you should gennerally do with belts.
the materials
yeah i am just the mats take awhile
double up the depots
Darn, that's a lot more to keep in mind compared to splitters lol. Sounds interesting though
It's just because of how liquids as a whole work.
They aren't like belts. Theyre not forced to travel any direction.
Where as belts constantly go and move items in the desired one
They just generally flow from outputs and full pipes to empty pipes and inputs with a bias for following gravity.
You can visualize it like high pressure to low if that helps.
And the whole system just flows best if it's all full. (High pressure)
if I just snap a splitter to the input of a container does it work? I'm pretty sure I had some issues when I tried this before but I might have just done something wrong
some basic rules to help create reliable pipe systems #math-and-meta message
ok it does not work lol nvm
Pardon my ignorance in this but in order to produce 120/min concrete, how much i can get from a single pure limestone node?
pure is x2 of your miner tooltip output
i see, i have unlocked mk2 miners drills, would that count for such a task? had to remove the previous factory as it was inefficient and I am aiming 100% efficiency
yes, purity affects all miners regardless of mk. if mk2 miner default is 120, pure is 240 output
you could just add a splitter to a miner's output to feed antoher factory.
that would make it 100% efficient w/o rebuilding everything
I will, i am following a tutorial from Scalti on YouTube on his factory builds, and coincidentally, the concrete one may suit my needs
I would really avoid following tutorials - they generally don't explain things well, you wont understand things nearly as much if you had planned it yourself and they often focus on doing things only a single way when there's lots
1000x as much anything talking about fluids. So muhc bad info
I just wish i could know more creators who are in the higher tiers too who make these handy dandy guides as i have been on a long hiatus honestly
ok another newb question, I seem to be able to snap mergers to the output of a conveyor lift, does that actually work?
really really avoid those too because there's basically infinite ways to make things because of all the alt recipes
and it's very simple to make your own systems - use a planner like so https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=heucco35V0m65eKIv0GI
I had no idea turbo fuel was so good
I’ve been barely scraping by around 1500 MW
I have around 6000 total now
for a concrete-only factory, you can also hunt down some power slugs for research and underclock the factory so that you reach 100% efficiency with lower power usage. just about every large factory you'll build in the future you'll have to alter production output to match multiple inputs
it's a choice - there are simpler options that also get you tons of power.
Oil to HOR to Diluted fuel for example
Ye
and speaking of alt recipes, which ones are the best so they dont use too much resources?
kinda curious about them
there are no 'bests'
there's generalist recipes and specialist recipes
And most really rely on what other recipes you combo them with
I saw the rocket fuel thing but idk where to get the canisters for them I’m assuming it’s a little later on
you can compare recipes on the wiki here https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/
but anyone selling you a tier list misses out on like 90% of what makes a recipe good
I got happy when I got the iron to steel pipe
i'd say all alt recipes are useful depending on what you're trying to make where
It’s a little slow with 20 ingots to 5 pipes but it beats having to use a foundry and coal and stuff
iron and coal are very often close to each other shrug
most common combo. Plus you'll almost certainly need steel for hte next things too
True but I already got a mass steel producing plant so I’m doing fine
well i say this because its been a while since i played this game, kinda forgot since there's been changes on how the game overall behaves from what i can recall
It just made things more convenient
a few of the recipes have changed but the overall concept of their use hasn't 🙂
generalist recipes tend to be lower tier items, ingots, first processes like wires/cables
specialist tend to be recipes on higher tier items, they depends much more on the previous recipes for their 'value'
its so satisfying to destroy the gas pillars
its generally just so great destroying nuisances
[insert redacted comment/joke here]
i really gotta automate nobelisks so I can just refuel them whenever and destroy any flower/gas pillar that tries to annoy me
reminder that ficsmas comes with explosive snowballs
wait i am automating turbofuel I CAN automate nobelisks yo
Well, at least i have managed somehow to make a fully functional steel factory
and an extra coal plant power generator, still a lot of work to be done just yet 🏗️
i did that at my last base but I did a foolish mistake of completely taking it down when I decided to switch my main base to desert
imo homing is too expensive to mass produce
shit where did I leave my motor production
oh right
wha
I feel like im back into business after automating iron and copper
Is there a Lfg section
Thx
Ok
Ok thx
Yes
Cause
Idk honestly
I’m tryna figure out how to build the dam hub
Nvm figured it out
Yea I might
Closest iron is 235 that good?
Or should I go closer
I hate ada
I’ve done it before then gave up
Grass
there's a spot with 3x normal iron nodes that's pretty sick for a starting location, copper and limestone nearby too
Where?
Yea
How do I check map?
it's like -525, 2300 for coordinates
oh yeah lmao you don't have a map at the start
Oh ok
there is a big rock that has green gas coming off of it, go north from there
Ok thx
it's in the middle of a huge field. the scanner should ping 3 iron nodes near each other
I mean if you scan right when you drop in that's the base that you'll probably end up at 😛
Bro how tf do I use the equipment shortcuts
How is this stopping me
Oh yea this spot
This was my first spot
I like a challenge tho
i got the pipe dream achievement
TURBOFUEL!!!
i got turbofuel!! yay!!
I wish I liked knowing nothing lol
in general you want to automate all non space parts, yes
Non space?
space parts are the parts going into the space elevator
sure, just pointing out you should automate everything except maybe those
Except nails?
screws - you'll probably need screws for some parts
K
you'll have to automate them
Oh ok
Why shouldn’t I do screws
... you should? if you need them?
Oh ok
I'd find an iron node and copper node and hand mine some to start, Then collect some leaves and wood for power in the HUB then do some crafting to familiarize yourself with the recipes you need and so on. Took me a while to get a hang for this.
OMG
Screw screws.. I ship my parts with Gorilla Glue..
ok elon
to be fair, gorilla glue was probably higher quality than what he used on his cars
Who wants to know how to go to space
look at your build menu , there's a power section
turn leavse and wood into Bio mass
then when you can, turn biomass into Solid biomass
connect power lines to things, it tells you what it needs
Craft leaves, wood, animals and fungi into biomass
do conveyer floor holes still allow you to bypass the height limit? I have a floor hole, and the lift still seems to be stuck at 48 plates high...
Nothing a little glue and duct tape cant fix - Elon Musk
Yay it works
place a bunch of pulse noblisks at your feet, then save and exit the game when you get back in they will all go off at once and you'll fly to the top of the sky box
Back when Oil extractor was with Belt output.. Those were the times
When coffee stain said they would never add fluids :p
There was spiders and now I gotta change pants
i was about to ask a question but there is a new player here and im afraid to spoil
IDC
I’m just here to industrialize
I SEE A SHINY THING
go to it
Blue power slug
Coooooooooooooool
Btw @minor cedar u can ask I don’t care
I don’t care about spoilers
nah its fine i can look it up
Ok
lol don't spoil me too badly 😛
do u mean limestone
nothing wrong with that
Yea but I need concrete
craft some
Is it hard to tho
stick limestone in a constructor
done
@mortal ginkgo some slander here :p
Any tips for keeping organized? lmao.
What does impure even do
Oh that don’t matter does it
It does IE you can have more smelters attached to one single ore vein.
not really, just changes how many machines you can feed from it
IE i think a normal vein can do 2 smelters? Might be mitaken.
yeah if its an mk1 miner
mk 1 miner not overclocked or underclocked
Only reference for me since I still have yet to reach mk 2 lol
you get that at advanced steel
Ye im on basic rn t.t
what update one?
Surprise pickachu face.
Why cant assembler's make portable miners?
alternate recipe
love them prod values xD
Uh guys which recipe do i use the heavy encased modular frame or hor
it's possible to get an alternate recipe to automate portable miners at steel production
i got a choice from the hd
which recipe will you use first?
yes
really? i didnt know that was possible
heavy encased modular frame for any day of the year
i actually dont know maybe the heavy encased modular frames tho
Ima go explore
but hor is gonna make power production so much easier
we now producing nobelisks AND rifle ammo
@cedar iris why the trans flag
so which first? you can always get the other later
oh u can get the other later?
alright encased heavy modular frames it is then
you're never locked out of recipes
lol watching the vid, I started playing on update 3 but I remember watching videos of people making conveyor belt spirals to circumvent the lack of conveyor lifts, I didn't realize then it already was a feature
Im pulling a blank where do I build the first truck at lol
I fell off the map😭😭😭
RIP
oh I thought that turbo fuel would make me have triple flight time not triple flight strength
smh...
turbofuel has terrible flight time
jetpack is either liquid biofuel or ionized rocket fuel and nothing else
Yay coal power up t.t no more biomass gen
I just unlocked turbofuel
so much better lol
No more having 50,000 biomass generators randomly strewn about lol
never have i played a game for so long ( (74 hours)approximately 3 continuous days, and i got it 2 weeks ago) and still been so clueless
kinda gotta embrace being confused heh
nevermind, need to add more generators lol 4 is insufficent
just finished my 1st nuclear reactor fully knowing the stuff used to make the stuff powering it iarent sustainable btw
rigor motor or fused wire?
until i finish the next phase maybe it'll get easier then (as i said the last phases)
lol I'm at like 40 hours and haven't even got oil up and running yet
huh?
alt recipe
but I afk a decent amount and spent way too much time making stupid stuff to learn how things work
1 tip, do not at any circumstance upgrade 1 line of a belt without the rest
i mean the stators
and encased whatever thing that's made from concrete
lol I'm sure I'll make that mistake again, wasn't fun to figure out why stuff wasn't working
you need stators n ai limiters for one of the things to manufacture w urainium and the encased stuff to make whatever fuels the reactor
yeah im still doing it
I assume if my production of power is the same as consumption it means add more powerplants? lol
uhh quick question how do I get 48 mercer spheres
Walking. xp
unless you want everything to explode n have to restart em w bio reactors
i say stat-ore some ppl may say state-or
Coal power can explode? o.o
stay-tor? maybe
and also it saymy cap is 148 mw so I think i should be good
figuratively like the power for everything will stop
if you flip a breaker you run into a fun problem where you need power to produce power lol
for nuclear power tho im about to find out soon if i can turn my main base into Chernobyl
yeah but my way's easier
Maybe one day I’ll build the space elevator
state - er?
no idea what that is yet, all i know is that im supposed to go from relying on fuel for power to making god damn particle accelerators 😭
one day you're peacfully gathering bushes to power your iron miner to make screws to throwing stuff into space
nah it makes sense
makes sense to me too
alwasy been taught the stator is the stationary part and rotor is the rotating part
how do ppl make those huge super factories while im stuck building messes?
i gotta turn in circles to figure out how to get smthn from A to B
Good planning and perseverance
my 2 weaknesses
people who make insane builds probably play like 10x as many hours as you 😛
i rely on "if it works rn leave the problems to "when i wake up tmr" me"
Good looking factories start with foundations and a miniscule drive to decorate at least.
You can improve frim there
I agree. Seeing some screenshots and then there's me.... I'll put a pic of my mess in a min in screenshots.
I noticed my game close randomly when paused. Anyone else have that?
Closes completely ?
Yes
Cant say i ever heard of that.
EXP or standard version? Also which platform
Epic. Regular game I've had since 2021ish.
odd
I even have founders items I saw.
If you dont get a crash report then something must be forcefully closing the game
No crash. Just closes.
I'll explore more later. Never does it while playing, just paused
Might sound weird but the elevator music sounds like Sonic tunes from my Sega.
wait
i think i confused myself
what were ya talking abt exactly?
ohhhhhhhhh
i totally misunderstood that 😭
no no its not your fault i just havent slept well
i dont know much abt em....or anything at all actually
yeah although i dont have an excuse for it other than "i wanna play more"
stationary* state is something else
supposed to be doing the former but not much of it to say the least
What
im going into med school not much going forward considering how old the profession is
When it comes to creative work I would agree yes
Unless you're going into the research side of it
nah imma just open a clinic in my town the same way my grandad did
Wouldn't be a bad idea
gonna leave saving the world to someone else
I hope you get there
Not really a sole effort :p
dentist school is amazing but the equipment is hella expensive to get n maintain
Just woke up from a dream in which I was playing Satisfactory... too much or too little of the game?
who knows, some ppl solely almost ruined it
Too little I think
Easier to ruin than to save I'd argue lmfao
Not enough. Play more.
touche
Well in the EU you're most likely funded thanks to stipend so I'm assuming they're from America
gimmie 10 years and i'll have your answer
Tis the way it seems. So little effort to destroy but it takes actual work to do something and a lot of ppl are lazy.
A lot of people are content with the way things are rather
True. Good point
not even,still waiting for applications for most of em to open tho i have applied to 1
not scared of it as far as i can remember
i try to avoid leaking mine
As one would hope
The thing that makes me queasy is needles tbh
I never got over those completely, just makes me cringe
same, i do get uncomfortable even if im not the one taking em
whats going off
You'll get over it I assume with the amount you'll inevitably administer throughout training
uhh im sorry could you repeat that?
But I hated it during nursing
who is we
and beforehand
Booo
im getting cvhased by spiders (ingame)
I just realised it's all the way from 2020
top 10 reasons there's no vr in satisfactory
-# ||statistically, you're probably getting chased by spiders in real life||
nah im not that scareed
It's fine spiders irl aren't 5x our size 😞
wait computers are THAT easy to make???
copper and plastic??
australia says hi
Nobody actually lives there anyways
funny enough having having em as cats is 10x scarier
iirc, canonically it's AR.
so it's the equivalent of a TF2 spy wearing a paper face mask with a cat on it
what a man must go through for a purple slug
gives everyone mental image of stinger doing crab walk
Or just the pyro with his delusions
Ye. Def PTSD from the meowing. Especially the green ones. Like insta dead.
Anyone know any creator for satisfactory who started making series on 1.2?
Quick questionia erm, Do I need circuit boards for anything really? I have a Computer factory and Just unlocked supercomputers, Should I just continue the circuit boards factoryline into high speed connectors and then just send them to super computer factory ?
You will need for other stuff. Ypu can google for what stuff
You can make some excess I believe they're needed for MK2 power poles but with high speed connectors then you make MK3
keep facilities imo
never know when a resource might be needed
- teleporter ✅
engineerpioneer ✅- things that fling
jaraterocks at you long distance ✅
seems legit
Thats what ive done so far, Just a factory for every component
MK 2 poles are quickwire rods and concrete
You're right
you dont need circuit boards as a construction material, if thats your question. Mostly used for computers and high-speed connectors
I forgot what circuits are used for...was it the AI limiters then?
Haven't played this game in a hot minute 😮💨
circuit boards used to be used as a construction material, but they got rid of that
i think train signals used them?
but they changed it
Hmm okay
No clue. Have empty ? still in my recipe book for em.
guys
am I able to automate inhalers at any point in the game
Nope
damn
😭
Ye a shame but theres no automated recipe for it nor are the ingredients able to be collected automatically
For any of the 3/4 recipes
Then again, how often will you be near the brink of death needing a hit of those inhaler fumes
What version we on?
True but at least from my experience I just end up eating the bacon agaric instead
-# aerosilzed spider jerky
Lasagna
alot.
When can I research
Research what
Unlock the MAM
Oh ok thx
Field research milestone
OOHH fancy. I can now stick conveyors on ceilings. Nice.
walls too
are there enough hard drives to get all alternate recipes?
yes
ok thank you
and some extra :p
1.1
Ok thx
Do you all use "short lifts" a lot? Sure are nice once I found them by mistake. One of those WTF moments. I dunno what to call em.
They're nice to keep lines tidy yeah
Even so this place is getting spaghetti like. Guess that's a downside to a build a ton of parts here factory.
Anyone know a good beginners guide on yt
honestly just follow the milestones and build - the tiers are effectively a long tutorial
if you have specific questions you can always ask though
there are plenty of guided playthroughs, if it's too daunting alone follow those
+1 for just working it out yourself as you go and just paying attention to what the game tries to teach you. There's no real penalty to doing things inefficiently beyond just... being inefficient, and that's normal for a new player. Learning troubleshooting skills and getting an understanding of things like "oh yeah belts and pipes can only manage x per minute" is also very useful, which you might not get if you just follow someone else
i have an idea most ingenious.
what if the break notification requires you to click to confirm to close it because sometimes I just skip seeing it
and make the button have a 10 second countdown so ppl dont click it off by accident
3 minutes countdown. And, and the game threatens you too
ada startup sound after every second passes
Guys I'm planning on starting to build my main base soon but how should I do it for it to all work out
Ik I need to make it 1000x bigger than what I need rn so I don't have to rebuild later that's for sure
with conveyer belts I hope
You're bound to rebuild
You're bound to need to add more than rebuild
No point in building a main base in satisfactory
Stuff inside the base yes but idk about the outside
You just build where is convenient
Having items in 1 spot is nice
That's where trains come in handy
just make a big platform and do wtvr from there
But yeah if you're planning on having literally everything in one spot you're gonna be wasting more time than just having smaller buildings across the map
I've already wasted a lot of time on stuff so I don't mind it
Dimensional depots exist for building materials and everything else should be produced where it is used
cloud space mercer sphere thingies
That's about it
Maybe it's impractical but it's cool isn't it
Ye well then there's no real 1 way to go about it and the amount of space you'll need is completely dependent on you and what you intend to actually do
For sure there have been people who have made it work
Mega-factories are cool and it's a valid way to play the game. "There's no point" is a bit of a redundant take, play the game how you want. Satellite factories are fine, mega-factories are fine.
i mean...
Waste of time is what I said but yeah, it's a sandbox
.
imo youll need to waste a TON of time making it look organized
My bad oopsie
everytime you unlock smt new
Is there no point stocking up power slugs, and should you always convert them to power shards when you get them?
Waste of time is also just not true. You could spend 500 hours building a bunch of satellite factories, or 500 hours building one big factory, it's the same time usage.
I would stockpile them until you can sloop them, but at that point just make them into power shards
Yeah but also why wouldn't I wanna play the game for 1 gazillion hours
having a l*fe
Idk what that is
id say sloop them to double your gains
I only know factory
well if youre une*ployed then yeah go ahead
Yea exactly
I disagree with this but at this point I feel as though it's just a subjective matter on how one prefers to play the game
Exactly
id love to make all my satelite factories be connected and send resources to my ""MAIN"" base but ykw
too much effort and re-adjusting already placed railroads
why readjust?
What settings tank fps the most? I'm currently running everything at max, but my fps is starting to get lower than I'd like and my 4070 super is basically at 100% utilization. So what settings can u turn down to get some fps back?
again, why? just connect them together if you want, but you don't need to change anything
gm chat
Goodnight chat
iirc the game has dlss so use that
I am using it and frame gen 😭 But my factory is getting big and intensive
oof
just turn them off one by one and see which has most impact?
To give what I hope can be a useful example ^^: I like to play with belts and pipes, but not so much much with long-range transport; so I tend to prefer taking care of all ore-transport by lazily bringing it to one place (spending as little time as possible mechanically building transport lines) and then "wasting" time on organizing everything however I wish, using my favorite things in the game (short range logistics)
i just completed phase 2 and i find my starting factory rather hard to expand, should i start over with a new factory some where else?
yeah rebuilding the factory is a big part of the game
Only if you make it a big part, you can always just keep the old and build new
not really
im worried because my starting area have 4 pure iron node and im afraid im gonna be wasting resources
nothing forcing you to expand on the starter factory, you can make a new factory elsewhere and connect them with trucks or trains
Of course nothing stopping you from rebuilding (at the cost of maybe burning yourself out from a lack of progress)
If you are like me however you get some enjoyment from rebuilding an optimising
then use that starting area to build a better factory if u want
It's all up to preference entirely, as is the case with these things in sandbox games
Albeit if it's a sandbox game, why is the entire map not covered in sand...
Im a victim of this play style myself 😞
Forced myself to learn trains just so I can attempt to tidy things up instead of just blueprinting multiple belt lines
I used to have the fear of missing out in this game, but if it's your first playthrough, you will never need the max amount availble of the map of any ressource, far from it, especially iron. Don't tear your factory down, go build somewhere else
you know you can make curves with foudnations using catwalks, is it possible to make walls curve and still look nice like the foundations?
yes, build them on the curved foundations
Hopefully 1.2 will make things more fun on that front 😁
catwalks is just extra step, you can just nudge
@normal orbit is talking about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8-g2o7wFc
i am not really
#design-and-architecture message similar, but i'm not double building, just nudging
and just blueprint that into one left and one right
the wall bit is a bit more tricky, the outside curve is easy, but the inner bit will get jagged, depending on the radius you can kind of smooth it out
#math-and-meta message i had two blueprints for the inner sections, one with three walls (three foundations wide) and one with two walls centered on the same three width. then when put together it looks kinda smooth. #math-and-meta message
There any good copper spots in grass
check the interactive map
or just place radar tower
they not in phase 3 yet :p
hey guys
can anyone explain me something real quick i am new in the game 🙂 and struggle a bit
best to just ask
waddya need?
i use the satisfacotry tool online for building 🙂
k
ah fk i cant post a picture here rip
nice i post it there
I’m new
if you wanna spoil yourself, theres a link to scim in #math-and-meta pinned posts. Or you can use ore scanner and explore a bit and maybe find some fun things too
Ok thx
then ping scanner
Yes there is copper in grass spots. Normal node and some impure. Currently working on a new factory close to grassland starter spot (I think) That's what I picked to start at.
Oh ok do u have a pic of where
If not it ok
5 mercer spheres left until I max out my ada cloud
I am gonna throw up a pic in screenshots cuz I think I am over the top a bit.
stoked for you this is probably the best 1.0 feature
@cloud halo the dimensional depot
Which upgrade do you have left?
oh
240 upload speed
Pretty good. A legit strategy is to hold off on that upgrade as it costs over 20 spheres. You could just add more depots to the lines that are high use for the fraction of the cost.
(I got the upgrade early though for completion )