satisfactory

[rough shore]

just use a train

[abstract girder]

Yes, actually, what I'm trying to do right now is like building extremely large structures in Minecraft. We're playing a game here, not a real logistics simulation. We need to do it in a way that's simple and fun. Your words are slowly putting my mind at ease. Thank you very much.

[ornate saffron]

When a building has two outputs its random which one is considered a priority. This can cause output fluctuations. I don't know why. But through experimenting I know it fluctuates

That being said in the train interface it does give you your average throughput. If I don't have enough through put i just add another train.
Keep in mind I generally do not make massive projects. I generally just make small independent facilities

[white dawn]

As I say, there's a learning curve. :)

It'll take time to learn how to use trains effectively

(Just as it'll take time to learn how to use vehicles, or drones)

[abstract girder]

So, if I fill all the inputs to full before starting the factory, like with the manifold issue, will that solve the problem?

[reef basin]

just another reason to do one belt per platform

[white dawn]

You can always ignore them, of course! Some folks just stick with running belts everywhere

[reef basin]

all the manifolds (even train manifolds) will resolve themselves eventually

[abstract girder]

Hmmm, I've come up with a train logistics plan in my head right now. I don't know if it's logical, but I'll find out when I open the trains.

[white dawn]

My recommendation: start small. If you need material from Site A over at Site B, set up a simple train line to run A->B

[abstract girder]

everything makes sense depending on opinions, but a can guarantee that most people will recommend AGAINST that

[white dawn]

Then the next time you need something (from C->D), set that up, and if it makes sense, hook it up to your existing rail

Let the network expand naturally

I've seen so many people spend hours making mapwide train networks only to realize when they were done that they made some mistake early on which meant they had to re-do everything

[abstract girder]

By the way, what is a buffer system? They explained it to me the other day, but I didn't understand anything. Please explain it as if you were explaining it to a 5-year-old child.

[white dawn]

If you build it up in little bits you'll have more opportunity to catch mistakes early

[jagged nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gJ_ogNzzSs8
top tier production quality

[abstract girder]

So the reason for this is simply that so many screws are being produced that they need to use a lot of conveyor belts?

[jagged nymph]

yes

[abstract girder]

Hmm, that makes sense too.

[fluid sapphire]

containers between the source and freight platforms

#screenshots message

or vice versa on the receiving end

[simple pebble]

oh my god I got sent back 20 years

[jagged nymph]

lets say you need to ship 1920 screws, thats 4 nk4 belts. Instead you could ship one mk4 belt of rods and turn it into screws on site

[abstract girder]

Why do you hate screws so much?😭

what

[jagged nymph]

or even more of a benefit if you use steel screws

[rough shore]

sir why use rods for scrws

[rough shore]

cuz

[jagged nymph]

or steel or ingots, whatever recipe youre using

[rough shore]

why screws?

[abstract girder]

Yes, I don't know how to use them. Maybe I'll try a few experiments in creative mode today to see how they work.

[elfin smelt]

that's a very good idea

[dawn vapor]

How to go in third person?

[abstract girder]

But now something occurs to me, wouldn't the length of the trains be a huge factor in this? Because trains carry a certain number of goods, and the belts are always bringing new ones from behind. How am I going to account for this and how am I going to build my factory? Do I first need to establish the train line and calculate how much goods it can transport to the factory location per minute?

Yes, that makes sense. I'll probably do some experiments tonight.

[ornate saffron]

photo mode "p"

then "R" and "T" to remove UI and decuple camara

[abstract girder]

It's been 10-15 minutes since I wrote this and I just came across it.😭

[fickle locust]

If you have the right number of resources going into the train station you will have the right number coming out on the other end. Things like train length and round trip time do matter, but mostly don't need to be calculated except if you need to do troubleshooting

[abstract girder]

So yes, it was a learning phase. When I first started the game, I didn't even know the output of the factories per minute, and I thought everything would be fine with just one smelter and one producer.

[primal lark]

How do i make more resources go inside the elevator instead of like 3 smart plates at a time?

[abstract girder]

But wouldn't it create a problem if the train depots filled up?

[reef basin]

No? Just overflows

[abstract girder]

Yes, I will do that. I will have three factories soon, if I build them, of course. I will take all their output and send it to my main storage containers. I think it makes sense to use it for trains.

[abstract girder]

Damn it, I made a mistake while copy-pasting, sorry.

[knotty bear]

After completing phase 3 should I tear my whole factory down again? Spent 100 hours on current design though I feel there are probably bottlenecks from bad design, but idk if I should just make new factories instead. I've covered the shore and the grassy plains pretty much.

[normal orbit]

Just build new somewhere else

[abstract girder]

the last thing I would want to experience in my life

[knotty bear]

Also never used world grid alignment :/

[abstract girder]

Yes, that's right, yesterday while building my factory I noticed a mistake that would reduce the entire factory's productivity. Luckily, I was progressing slowly.

[abstract girder]

So, are these things that will support the manifold system?

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message
Does anyone know where these tiny power capacity spikes come from? sometimes it's as low as 0.8MW, sometimes it's 20...

[abstract girder]

Ah, so that way, the more difficult something to produce, the more logical it is to manufacture it in a factory and send it everywhere, but making simple things like screws on-site makes more sense.

[abstract girder]

Hmm, I didn't quite understand everything, but I think I grasped the basics.

[abstract girder]

So, when the train runs out of space to leave its cargo at the depot, does it continue?

[reef basin]

Depends on the settings for train

[abstract girder]

I definitely need to check out the trains tonight; I haven't checked them at all in the game.

[fluid sapphire]

freight platforms lock up while they are being loaded or unloaded, this limits your flow, the containers ensure that items keep moving at all times, basically forming a buffer

[abstract girder]

In other words, it ensures continuous production, allowing the factory to operate at 100% efficiency. right?

[fluid sapphire]

something like that

[remote siren]

@supple canopy geothermie? small dips in fuel supply?

[abstract girder]

So, would it be a good thing to place a container at every train depot exit?

[supple canopy]

nah I don't use geothermal, and it's a spike, not a dip

[remote siren]

if you didnt change something, it just carries the container until it can unload

[supple canopy]

long time ago I somehow got the idea that it came from trains braking, but I don't remember how I came with this theory. It generally happens after about 100hrs into a playthrough

[remote siren]

hmm, ill check mine when i get home. i did just start trains and had flat line before too

[feral vector]

If I'm using smart splitters to put items in their own storage bins and put overflow into a sink, is there a way to prevent accidentally sinking something that doesn't have a splitter filtering it? Have one smart splitter at the end that routes everything into a storage container?

[remote siren]

there is a setting where you can route „everything else“ to

[feral vector]

Hmm right I guess I confused myself

[reef basin]

you can sort first and then split overflow

[feral vector]

Any - undefined on the last one should let anything through if I have a belt from that one going to a container I think?

[remote siren]

any undefined lets everything through thats not designated to any other output

[feral vector]

I have it set up so it filters items left into storage, straight for any - undefined, right for overflow onto a belt that goes to a sink. You mean just skip the overflow on most splitters and have one at the very end?

[supple canopy]

if you forget to filter something you kinda wanna have it going into the sink and troubleshoot when you realize a container is empty no?

otherwise you'll eventually clog your belt

[reef basin]

mixed belt -> smart splitter (split 1 item type) -> smart splitter (split 1 item type) -> ... -> overflow bin

each split item type will have another smart splitter for overflow to sink

(or not make mixed belt in the first place)

[feral vector]

I think I'd rather clog my belt than accidentally sink a bunch of something hmm

[cedar iris]

maybe something is not 100% active, you can look at the buildings and see a percentage in the middle, that shows its average uptime

[unkempt blade]

if you're not certain you set it up right just put a storage container on the end instead of a sink temporarily and check the items in it after a bit to see if it looks right

[remote siren]

you could filter at the first input for any item that should go down the line, and take any undefined away at the input already

[feral vector]

I'm still pretty early on I just figured I'd clean up my factory having random storage containers all over the place

[supple canopy]

nono it's power CAPACITY (and production), not consumption. So it's like I have a power generator set at 0.5% somewhere sometimes going off (I don't have anything like that)

[feral vector]

I was gonna have the main line go into a container and the overflow line go into a sink

Just in case I don't have a filter for something I dump in the input container/belt

[unkempt blade]

replacing the sink temporarily would still prove the splitter is correct. You'd see the real storage fill up before to not-a-sink storage

[cedar iris]

then I have no clue

[remote siren]

put a splitter at the input container that just lets anything you have a storage for in one exit, and the other one to any undefined back to a storage

[feral vector]

Hmm I'm just trying to figure out how to idiot proof it so when I start making new stuff it won't get sinked easily if I mess up adding a splitter forcit

[feral vector]

I think I need the better version of splitters for that? I just got the first ones I'm a newbie

This is probably completely excessive for where I'm at in the game, but I'm trying to learn to be organized lol

[remote siren]

programmable splitter, caterium research in mam

[supple canopy]

no this is a good setup, but I think you're overthinking the accidental sink problem. If you accidently sink rotors you'll soon realize your rotor container is empty and you can easily add a smart splitter

[feral vector]

Any tips on getting outputs from all my stuff to this line of containers on the back side of my janky factory lol

[unkempt blade]

Sinking for the overflow should be pretty easy

1. if there's a rule for "any" or a specific item it'll split evenly between those if more than one exists
2. if an "any" rule isn't used all items that don't have a rule would follow a "any undefined" rule
3. if either 1 or 2 paths are full, it goes to the overflow path

[remote siren]

i wouldnt put all items on a single belt. build dedicated belts rather.

[supple canopy]

make a logistics floor below or above your machine floor 😀

[feral vector]

Hmm yeah I was also thinking I can do that since the containers have two inputs

And then use the sushi line to dump stuff in when I'm lazy and want to clean my inventory lol

[ancient ravine]

#screenshots message
Anybody have any idea why this setup doesn't work to saturate a belt? Both inputs are 1040 ingots per minute, both front outputs for the splitters is set to any and both left ones to overflow so it should always saturate the bottm merger right? There are pretty big gaps tho and it never really hits 1200 per minute. All refineries are working at 100%

[serene jolt]

I want crap to look organized but it always turns into spaghetti. Is a floor full of conveyors that go up to machines a good idea? Just put everything below machines?

[remote siren]

i dump inventory into sink, cant be bithered to sort all stuff

[feral vector]

I guess using a big sushi line for everything would clog up so fast maybe this was a waste of time to just have a dump container 😂

[remote siren]

get the dimensional uploader, send up important stuff, all other sink

[feral vector]

Yeah I need depots lol

[keen vault]

i js got phase 4 what do i do

[ornate saffron]

aluminum is my go to. them MK5 belts are nice

[elfin smelt]

hoverpack!

[real shale]

Nuclear pasta!

[supple canopy]

get to phase 5????

[hexed phoenix]

@quiet blaze Rumor say that a new vehicle will arrive in ~9 month.. #screenshots message

[flat rain]

is there somewhere i can make a bug report? every time i delete a very specific piece of railroad track in 1.2, my game crashes.

[supple canopy]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[flat rain]

ty

[quiet blaze]

maybe thats how they made the tanker......

[rough shore]

can we make hard drives not take 10 minutes please? thanks

[prime basin]

that explorer is getting bred

[feral vector]

Do I just use conveyor lifts through the floor or something? I still just have a big single level foundation

[feral vector]

There's not a setting for that?

[wispy tundra]

Good morning folks 🙂

Man, sometimes I get the feeling like I SHOULD be burning out of this game after 450 hours
BUT I DIDN'T! I already have like 3 games downloaded that are sitting on my steam library (The Last Caretaker, StarRupture, Dyson Sphere Program) waiting for my satisfactory playthrough to end or to me getting burned out
And I would think that it'd be pretty normal and expected that I burn out of it, but I just. DON'T.

it's literally the only thing I've been playing - the only thing I use my free time with, actually

[elfin smelt]

you guys know you can just pop a MAM on the crash site location, start scanning and then dismantle the MAM and the scan will still continue right

[feral vector]

I should probably explore more lol I'm almost never waiting on a hard drive

[feral vector]

0.o good to know

[elfin smelt]

in fact, even if you take less then 10 minutes to finde another HD, you can just pop the MAM again wherever you are when the scan completion notification appears to start scanning the other one

one thing I agree with is that it's annoying having to wait the HD scan to progress with regular MAM tree nodes

[hexed phoenix]

Thats a huge QoL gameplay advise :)

Still recall the horror when you sit for an entire weekend scanning harddrives after collecting some 30-40 of them and starts scanning once you get home to base :D

[twin parcel]

road barrier has glitches on trucks , it made the truck look like running on two wheels

[elfin smelt]

it would be nice if we could cancel the current HD scan if we wish to advance a tree node and them resume or restart the HD scan

[compact knot]

just mke sure you check the tree b4 starting a scan lol

[elfin smelt]

my adhd brain is not capable of that

XD

[ornate saffron]

they hyper focus/Flow state is my greatest strength and weakness

[compact knot]

i think i will start a new game while i wait for 1.2, smerkin5000 got me motivated with his factory city

[lament plover]

When will 1.2 be released?

[rough shore]

not today probably

[compact knot]

not this week probably lol

[tall lodge]

A few month from what they said iirc

[elfin smelt]

gotta love start 5 projects at the same time and finishing none of them

[ornate saffron]

its hard. but sometimes it help. My Radio control units became 4 projects but this worked out well this time Plubber facility is up. and logistics for three parts setup too

[remote siren]

last caretaker is worth it

[elfin smelt]

it helps troubleshooting because whenever I see one of my factories jammed I try to fix it ASAP

the issue it that I completelly forget what I was doing previously

[compact knot]

make a note of what yoiu need to do on the side menu

[wise junco]

👋

[elfin smelt]

I use real life tasklists with adhesive sticky notes, they help a lot

[ornate saffron]

i have a notepad and many post notes in the side of my tower lol

[compact knot]

if anyone neverheard of smerkin 5000 you shoud check out his tutorial 1.0 series duded pretty good

[unkempt blade]

I don't like tutorials. Games are more fun when you figure them out yourself

[compact knot]

i have my own playstle i just like watching others

[feral vector]

I'm trying to be more like this but I've looked stuff up for games for my whole life lol it's hard to stop being a perfectionist and trying to optimize everything

[elfin smelt]

I kinda agreewith that but many QOL things are not really explained ingame

[feral vector]

I played palworld before this game and I kinda ruined my first playthrough by looking up which pals to use for my base and stuff like that instead of just exploring and figuring it out

[feral vector]

this game seems really hard to play without at least looking up some tips. I wouldn't even have thought to do a basic manifold system lol

[compact knot]

if noone cared we wouldnt have a math-and-meta,design-and-architech...channel

[elfin smelt]

like before wacthing totalxclipse videos I was oblivous to stuff like belt placement types, snaping mergers directly to belts, changing the type of buildings (holding E), changing the type (holding E and left clicking), sample building (midle click)

[compact knot]

i play my wat but lets see what others are doing

[unkempt blade]

🤷‍♂️ I just think more people should do at least one playthrough on their own before stressing over that stuff

[wise junco]

eaten any factory carts today?

[unkempt blade]

nah I had a dentist appt earlier so I skipped breakfast, maybe for lunch

[remote siren]

that guy is also very pleasant to listen to

[prime basin]

i love him

[remote siren]

@supple canopy i dont see any spikes at mine from anything. but i only have 3 short trains running

[elfin smelt]

yeah, basic belt design is definatelly a must for everyone to at least know

[compact knot]

well after 1500+ hrs i think its ok 🙂

[feral vector]

I'm really trying to not spoil it for myself lol

[elfin smelt]

aside from that, I draw the line when we are just copy pasting factories in the tutorial

[unkempt blade]

You can do it! There's no way to lose, you have as much time as you want/need to do stuff

[feral vector]

I looked up a basic coal factory setup cause pipes hurt my brain. and I saw some videos about like... manifold systems and good kinds of blueprints and stuff

[feral vector]

I'm at the point where I kinda have no idea what to do but stumbling through will be kinda fun if I can relax 😛

my first real factory is already a shitshow, I'm just using storage containers to feed assemblers for the phase two parts, I haven't automated much at all except a ton of foundries to make beams and pipes

[unkempt blade]

Hub research will usually steer your towards what you'll be doing next. I'd just pay attention to what you unlock there

[feral vector]

I mean more in a sense of like... how to do it I guess? I know what my objectives are

[elfin smelt]

also fluids are very finicky, It would be pretty awesome if we had something like that unnoficial pipeline manual ingame

[real shale]

Aaaaaaa

[wise junco]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[real shale]

Why are you yelling, I'm right here

[wise junco]

oh hai

[feral vector]

like I could just make a full production chain for every new thing I unlock but that seems excessive at this point. I guess it's just a matter of taking the time to set it up? I have more than enough power and I think I could easily set up 32 more coal plants or something crazy

[real shale]

Hai

[feral vector]

it seems really annoying to refactor a factory instead of just making a new one with alternate recipes and designed to use new belts and stuff

[wise junco]

honestly?

my playstyle is 100% a new prod chain for most things until it's seriously late game

[real shale]

My playstyle is....uhhhhh...... uhhhhh I don't know what my playstyle

[elfin smelt]

your playstyle is your playstyle

[wise junco]

fackory

[real shale]

I'm disappointed in Banana

[wise junco]

😮

[real shale]

She showed me a factory and it had clipping

[wise junco]

NO IT DIDNT

SSHHHHHHHH

[real shale]

The evidence is in #design-and-architecture

[feral vector]

I might start doing that now that I have trucks and better belts?

[wise junco]

it's not MY FAULT the rock GREW into my railway

[wise junco]

it gets easier to do as your logistical abilities improve

[real shale]

Uh huh just like that other thing grew into that other railway

Uh huh uh huh

[wise junco]

REEEEEEE

[feral vector]

I seemed pretty bottlenecked by coal and iron when I first unlocked advanced steel stuff

[real shale]

Ow my ears

[wise junco]

😭

a little clippin never hurt anyone

[feral vector]

I need to figure out how to use blueprints better, I did one that was just two foundries into two constructors for steel beams and pipes

[wise junco]

learning BPs will save you so much time later. i'm still stubborn about making BPs when i should

[feral vector]

as soon as Irealize I'm repeating myself I will definitely use them but I don't seem to need the same inputs on many production chains yet?

[prime basin]

make the setup with the recipe blank

then you can reuse it

[feral vector]

I guess with better belts and trucks I could make a 4x smelter one or something

[prime basin]

just copy setting to all of them

[feral vector]

so just a block of constructors with the manifold setup or something?

[elder skiff]

1.2 coming out tomorrow trust

Will launch on console too 🙏🙏

[prime basin]

yep

[feral vector]

I think my main issue is that my production chains all have different amounts of smelters and constructors and stuff, I guess with a t3 belt and a pure node I'll want a 4x smelter blueprint or something?

[prime basin]

it also gives you a challenge, with the limited space it forces you to try and be as space efficient as possible

[prime basin]

just make a blueprint with the max amount, and then just delete or add a few

[feral vector]

I posted my first blueprint in screenshots and someone was like that is .... extremely space inefficient lol

I gotta use verticality too haven't done that at all tbh

[feral vector]

that's not a bad idea, it's not like the resources for constructors are an issue

if you post in screenshots without a screenshot does your msg get deleted heh

[leaden turret]

1.2 was out on EXP last week

[elder skiff]

Kid named xbox:

[leaden turret]

oh, you're s.o.l. for a few months then.

[elder skiff]

Wrong its coming out tomorrow trust me

I dont see a point in playing without ||randomization and daisy chaining||

[leaden turret]

If you wanna play on console before then, you gonna have to apply to fishlabs https://fishlabs.de/careers/jobs

[minor elk]

It's better to "overbuild" constructors considering how cheap they are, you can either just turn them off or underclock, imo. I have a couple variations of blueprints for "left in, right out" and vice versa, stuff like that.

Splitters not keeping their side while having to build a dozen of them is extremely annoying x.x

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> it's still fishlabs for 1.2, yes?

[elder skiff]

Applying for a job to play a video game is a brilliant idea ill get on that rn

[leaden turret]

there's a senior programmer job open at the CSS skovde office, but that doesn't guarantee console access beyond playing in the office gaming room 😛 https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/7113819-senior-programmer

[south sinew]

it's.. way less good than it sounds

[obsidian zodiac]

yeah were still working with fishlabs in regards to the console version of satisfactory

[south sinew]

not speaking about CSS specifically but in general QA has bad pay, bad conditions, and you spend more of your time on paperwork and versions of the game far too unfinished to actually be fun

[leaden turret]

would you prefer people apply to the programmer role at fishlabs or the programmer role at coffee stain in order for them to play 1.2 on console early? 😛

[elder skiff]

Sounds like my current job AYOO

[obsidian zodiac]

yes

[leaden turret]

no QA roles open atm, just programmer roles

[whole robin]

Are there any project parts that explicitly require uranium at some point in their construction, or is uranium something that's optional

[true mulch]

optional

[elder skiff]

Me leaving fishlabs with the 1.2 console usb in my shoe

[warm remnant]

how do u deal with production smokeless powder? by hand transporting gunpownder into refinery?

[leaden turret]

getting home, finding your xbox bricked for piracy upon connecting

[wise junco]

i train in coal, sulfur, and packaged heavy oil residue to the same spot

[elder skiff]

Not piracy if I already own the game twice 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[leaden turret]

corporate espionage / fraud, then 😛

[elder skiff]

Doesn't sound like a big deal tbf

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac heard anything about the swedish prison system?

[whole robin]

Im not sure that would hold up in a court of law

[serene jolt]

.

[elder skiff]

Im being so serious they look more comfortable than my old flat

[leaden turret]

might get deported back to your old flat, not worth the risk

[elder skiff]

Ah thats true

You've got me there

[whole robin]

Do you use conveyor lifts and the wall/roof supports in the awesome shop?

[serene jolt]

Yes. But stuff still ends up weird. I’m just wondering if I should switch to a basement full of spaghetti

And then use lifts to bring things to machines

[whole robin]

Do you have screenshots of recent factories you've built?

[serene jolt]

No. I can probably get some when I get on today though

Oh wait. No I put a post in questions and help. #1485401852999766038

[whole robin]

The easiest thing i can reccomend is not crossing conveyors going into the same machine, especially since the order they go in doesn't matter

[wise junco]

also let machines breathe! the more room you give, the more room you have to figure out logistics neatly

[nocturne nebula]

#screenshots message what on earth is going on here? lol

I imagine that would take some time!!!

[ornate saffron]

phase part multiplier for those who hate themselves

[nocturne nebula]

Lol

[real shale]

[wise junco]

[real shale]

YEAHHHHH finally someone does it

Ur awesome banana, stay awesome

[wise junco]

NO U

i always forget how big these buildings are when i'm zipping around on a hoverpack

[leaden turret]

machines do not have lungs. FICSIT can neither confirm nor deny whether Pioneers have lungs.

[spare prism]

Excuse me

[jagged nymph]

but porineers are humans right??

[jagged nymph]

oh you just wait till you see bensons playthrough

wiat wait wait

[ornate saffron]

Yes human female is pretty much the only information we do have

[jagged nymph]

is the box that shows the phase requirements.. is it bent???

[spare prism]

It’s cropped weird then taking a screenshot

[leaden turret]

humans have rights. FICSIT can neither confirm nor deny whether Pioneers have rights.

[jagged nymph]

NO ITS JUST LIKE THAT

[spare prism]

Ik weird

[leaden turret]

human female

-# ||Pioneer is Lizard Doggo in a mech suit||

[ornate saffron]

I like to think the pioneer ||redacted see #story-spoilers ||

[jagged nymph]

the ficsit autoreact is getting annoying

[undone citrus]

I want to build the new York big cine thingy

But I'm not good enough to figure it out

[leaden turret]

big cine thing?

[undone citrus]

Cone

[jagged nymph]

?

[leaden turret]

wasn't aware new york was known for cones?

[jagged nymph]

me neither

[undone citrus]

It has a building

[leaden turret]

can block bot

[ornate saffron]

Mostly known for cone heads ....

[prime basin]

how do you make the text do that?

[jagged nymph]

#BlockTheBot

[jagged nymph]

sdkflgj

[leaden turret]

backticks

[undone citrus]

You can do a lot

[prime basin]

wth is a backtick?

[leaden turret]

_back_ticks

`

[ornate saffron]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/31232432266647-Discord-Commands-Shortcuts-and-Navigation-Guide

[undone citrus]

||taco bell anyone?||

[leaden turret]

top left on a en-gb keyboard

[jagged nymph]

and with triple backticks you can

#include <iostream>
int main(){
  std::cout << "#BlockTheBot" << "\n";
}

[wise junco]

pweese

[feral vector]

is there anything I should keep more than an industrial storage container of lol

[wise junco]

i dont keep storage containers of anything 👀

[ornate saffron]

My ||bung hole cannot handle that filth||

[undone citrus]

Probably not

[feral vector]

well I don't have depots lol

[undone citrus]

I just keep extra for looks and nothing more

Cause if you're producing fast enough to fill that container pretty quickly you'll probably have everything you need

[jagged nymph]

i have like 5 of concrete

[feral vector]

yeah I'm just at the point where I can scale up a bit but I don't have automation set up for every part

[feral vector]

concrete-only foundation recipe?

[undone citrus]

Depots are useless for me

I build on such large scale it's more annoying than helpful cause it's always empty

[jagged nymph]

i mean i do use concrete foundations but even the normal ones would be just as bad, also walls and stuff

[feral vector]

you'd want containers with iron plates too for the normal ones tho right

[jagged nymph]

its useful to store the random things you get when exploring like sloops, hard drives and stuff

[jagged nymph]

i mean yeah if youre g onna be using alot of those

[feral vector]

seems like I am lol

[jagged nymph]

but also the normal one is only 2 iron plates wheras the conrete foundations is 7 concrete

[wise junco]

i know it might seem like a stretch... but go for DD ASAP. you wont regret it

[jagged nymph]

like thousands in one build?

[white dawn]

Sounds like you need more uploaders for your items. :)

[feral vector]

nah I'm still a newb I don't scale anything that crazy

[undone citrus]

Even at max it doesn't make a dent lol

[feral vector]

I'm always stuck in my factory messing with stuff lol

[jagged nymph]

you know you can place like 10 depots on your concrete and have 2400 going in per minute right?

[white dawn]

You've got 200 at your disposal; I'm skeptical that that amount wouldn't be sufficient to support even the most strenuous blueprints

[feral vector]

trying to automate stuff before I explore. I just finished phase 2 by using storage containers to feed assemblers 😅

[white dawn]

If you're really burning through material that quickly you'd be spending half your time running back to full up your inventory again. Depots couldn't help but improve that

[undone citrus]

I'll try that and see if it helps

Cause I use hundreds of thousands of concrete

[white dawn]

(I do acknowledge that it's a non-trivial amount of effort to build up your Depot systems to full functionality, but once it's there you won't regret it)

[undone citrus]

Cause I build with foundation more than walls cause I like how they look

[feral vector]

hmm I just realized making a huge long line of storage containers is awful for belts rip

[oblique aspen]

you need a lot of space to hide the belting to connect containers that are all huddled up

[feral vector]

I might abandon setting up my storage area for now I keep realizing what I'm trying to do is a horrible idea XD

[undone citrus]

I just stack them and chain them with conveyor elevators

[feral vector]

yeah I haven't wrapped my head around organizing belts very well at all, I had 6 coming in with ore and I tried to stack them and split them and it was gross spaghetti lol

[undone citrus]

For my build style Indo everything in my power to minimize belts

[feral vector]

gonna have a lot more than 6 coming in for a storage area hmmm

[undone citrus]

Everything outside of a factory is tractors or trains

Even just to bring some items to a building next door

But it looks cool cause I'm build in the style of a city block so the tractors doing delivery adds life

[feral vector]

yeah I don't really like running long belts now that I tried a truck but having tons of trucks seems like it would get ridiculous real fast

[undone citrus]

I only use trucks for really short distances

Or else they become unreliable

[real shale]

Mime

[undone citrus]

Hello

[real shale]

No no, you don't say anything, it's 👋

Mimes don't talk

[undone citrus]

Ohh

[proven snow]

I haven't had any big issues with trucks

Though I haven't ever had a big or long-running network with them

[undone citrus]

I find it the distance is too long and my production too small it doesnt work

And I can't figure out the math on how to calculate items per minute on it

[ornate saffron]

i dont mind long belts as long as im not running them one at a time

#design-and-architecture message

[white dawn]

Yeah, auto-connect especially has made belt highways a lot less tedious to create

[distant pilot]

And the 1.2 vehicle path changes make highway highways less tedious too

[undone citrus]

I thought you said auto correct and I was like how would that help

[native tapir]

to be fair, also less fun

[distant pilot]

The previous system was incredibly far from fun if you actually wanted trucks in comparable quantities to trains

[undone citrus]

I once spent 3 hours trying to get a dumb route to work...

So disagree

[tall lodge]

I never bothered with trucks because it was way too finicky and broke too easy in hundreds of hours. I tested them once and that was it.

Gonna give it a try again with 1.2 in hopes it becomes a lot more useable.

[undone citrus]

Trucks and stuff are fine short distances

But longer than like 500 meters you get risky

[tall lodge]

Its sad in a way because I had highways that connected stuff because it looked pretty but it was never really used.

[undone citrus]

And in the ground trucks are just nah

[tall lodge]

So again, looking forward to 1.2 big time.

[undone citrus]

Same

[native tapir]

Yeah. I'm just salty that I can't yeet them anymore

and that I have to kiss my factory cart hologram lava lamp goodbye

[undone citrus]

They can't stop me from using factory carts

I'll just replace my trucks with 70 carts

[west jackal]

Oh no.. has anyone told @unkempt blade that factory carts will suck now 😂

[undone citrus]

No they won't

Just use more

[west jackal]

You can make bouncy tubes with them now

[unkempt blade]

unleash the swarm! #screenshots message

[west jackal]

Oh lord 😂😂😂

[undone citrus]

The ghost army

I tried it once and it was legit more efficient

[stuck escarp]

is there a way to stop block and chain signals from snapping to rail connection points i want to align them but some rail segments are too small so i cant actually put them inbetween

ctrl works for some parts but not most

[ornate saffron]

factorio player spotted!!!

path and block lol

i do not have a solution GL ❤️

[stuck escarp]

oh mb yeah lol

i dont even play that much factorio just the most recent train shenanigans i did happened to be in factorio

[wintry wyvern]

is there pollution in satisfactory?

[stuck escarp]

nop

the enemies are only there to defend certain locations they dont attack

and there is no real downside to polluting the whole world

[stuck escarp]

(they even teleport back to their spawns if they move too far away i think)

[distant pilot]

And that’s annoying since >500m is where trucks are actually useful throughput-wise

[ornate saffron]

it infected you

[stuck escarp]

yes

clearly

[distant pilot]

it’s a distance that’s too short to justify trains or drones but also too long for belts to feel reasonable

[stuck escarp]

im being 2d-ified

[jagged nymph]

huh

[foggy mural]

i got randomly pinged in #screenshots ?

no msg there tho

[ornate saffron]

This happens to me often. I assume all my fans are sending nudes and the mod team are striking them down

[reef basin]

most likely someone text-replying to your image, not realising that you cannot speak there

[prime basin]

lol

[whole robin]

Is there any practical application for the charcoal and biocoal recipes

[ornate saffron]

I dont like the idea of using a coal node to make munitions part time. So my violence is powered by the corpses of my enemies

[whole robin]

What about charcoal?

[reef basin]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Its the same. You just use the wood rather then turning it to biomass first. I use both

As im still cutting all the flora

[whole robin]

Fair enough i suppose

[prime basin]

nice

[ornate saffron]

For the sulfur i just put a bunch of portable miners on a node with a proper miner (used for something else) nearby. And whenever I am in the area to drop off my bio I load up the sulfur storage

[fickle oriole]

I'm trying the new vehicle paths in experimental . How can you see/edit them? I can only figure out how to add to them by saying I want to build a new path (and only then are they visible). How do I see them as they are so I can edit them, delete unwanted parts, etc.?

[keen flame]

[indie boomer shooter game] mentioned

[ornate saffron]

... you are not wrong

[green fiber]

Consume more Blood

[keen flame]

mankind is dead

[leaden turret]

Artificial Dhampir Alucard 🧛‍♀️

[sly heart]

Is the satisfactory production calculator not working for anybody else

it keeps severly locking up for me

[west jackal]

Use tools

[sly heart]

yeah that's where I'm at, just on the calculator part of the site

[west jackal]

Uh, the only ti,e I had an issue i fixed clearing cookies

[sly heart]

Lemme try that

[foggy mural]

WHAT 😭

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[foggy mural]

Figured it'd be that

[ornate saffron]

A lot more reasonable assumption....

Though it doesn't mean my statement is not true

[leaden turret]

-# wonders how an unshrouded noctua takes a selfie

[prime basin]

how do you reference the specific post?

[west jackal]

Copy message link

[leaden turret]

copy message link

[prime basin]

oh, ok

[fickle wraith]

guys where would you build a factory that exclusively builds powershards (so everything is mostly nearby) ?

[ornate saffron]

Powershards?

[warm remnant]

does sameone know why same railgun (hypertube) works terribly in one place and perfectyl in other

[fickle wraith]

Yes (in german theyre called energiefragmente so i assumed itd be the same lmao)

[west jackal]

Depends how you jump into it and ,any other things

[west jackal]

You t9?

[foggy mural]

fear

[warm remnant]

they way i build it doesnt mather? its rotated

[west jackal]

I mean, direction its pointing doesn't matter

[warm remnant]

i mean entrances

running into it donest change a thing

[fickle wraith]

Yes

[west jackal]

Yes it does?

[wild sorrel]

hey can anyone help me im triying to join my friend game and it isnt letting me

[west jackal]

Yall both steam or both epic?

[wild sorrel]

steam

[warm remnant]

then do i want to sprint jump first to get momentum?

[wild sorrel]

he sended me the id but idk where to put it

[west jackal]

Is his game hosted as multiplayer?

[warm remnant]

i ended up in same space

[west jackal]

He can change to friends can join then you can just join with steam

[west jackal]

I slide jump into when I want go further

[wild sorrel]

hes hosting it

[west jackal]

He has to enable multi-player, would need to see the settings

Also has to reload the world after making it multiplayer

[wild sorrel]

i can send u a screenshot of his options on the game

[west jackal]

Just post in ss

[wild sorrel]

ok

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533 instead

[west jackal]

That big error box at the bottom would tend to suggest an issue with connection

Either not connected to internet or on an illegal version

[wild sorrel]

oh ty i didnt see

[wild sorrel]

i bought it for me and him so its not a ilegall version

[wispy tundra]

question, why the hell the fluid flow in my pipe keeps oscillating?

[west jackal]

Is he signed into steam and connected to internet? Did he launch the correct version

[jagged nymph]

yeah pipes do that

[wild sorrel]

i think?

ill make him restart the game

[west jackal]

I mean, I don't get that pop-up so more than likely its a connection issue

[west jackal]

Unfortunately

[wispy tundra]

ugh. Issue is that the low point of that wave function isn't enough to power my fuel generators

so the last ones of the manifold keep turning on and off

[jagged nymph]

have you tried looping the pipe

does someone have a screenshot of how to do that

[wispy tundra]

what's looping the pipe?

[jagged nymph]

lemme find a screenshot rq

#math-and-meta message

this can help

[wispy tundra]

hmmm

[jagged nymph]

huh

[lost reef]

what does it mean when my trucks say "youre truck has been deadlocked"

[jagged nymph]

they deadlocked

[lost reef]

idk what it means

[wispy tundra]

this is interesting. But wait, what if I build a buffer at a higher ground? would that act as a water tower of sorts?

[jagged nymph]

DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT

fluid buffers ruin flow rate

[reef basin]

yes but actually no

just use pumps to get fluid high

[wispy tundra]

what causes the flow of the fluid inside the pipe to keep oscillating?

[reef basin]

backflow

and in general burstiness of machines

[wispy tundra]

as in, the liquid inside keeps being thrown back and sloshing inside the pipe?

[reef basin]

yeah

[wispy tundra]

ugh. that sucks
and let me guess, a pump does not solve that

only solution is that looping thing?

[reef basin]

why is oscillation a problem?

[wispy tundra]

because the low of the oscillation is less than my generators need

[reef basin]

looping is always nice to try. Can't hurt

[wispy tundra]

wait, I might actually be doing this wrong, lemme check smg

[teal marsh]

so I need some modding/file help, can someone help me?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @jagged nymph

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @reef basin

[teal marsh]

ok

[jagged nymph]

check the modding server for help with modding

[teal marsh]

it just redirects me to the satis dc..?

[reef basin]

redirects you to a channel where modding discord is linked

[jagged nymph]

thres a link in there

[teal marsh]

found it

[wispy tundra]

OK, it seems that I might have setup too many generators. I'm sending 213.333/m of fuel into 12 generators

I need to underclock the last one

[ornate saffron]

Fuel burns at 20min

213.333/20=10.66665

So ten generators at 100% and one underclocked to 66.665

[minor cedar]

guys what does the programmable splitter do?

is it just a smart splitter but with more options?

[wispy tundra]

isn't it 11 at 100%?

[ornate saffron]

Allows each output sort with multiple options

[ornate saffron]

Type it into a calculator

[minor cedar]

can it not limit each items output for example if i need to limit 180 iron one output goes to 30 per min and the other to 150 per min can it not do that on its own?

[ornate saffron]

No, that is achieved with belt speeds and a combination of mergers and splitters

[minor cedar]

ah shit i thought thats what it was

[mortal ginkgo]

no. thats a design issue you need to solve. i handle such stuff with smart splitter qnd merges

[minor cedar]

damn alright ig

[rancid tiger]

Not going to lie but the best thing about this 1.2 experimental patch: Daisy chain on buildings for power poles and T-shaped pipe for fluids

Holy god, this is finally happening

[next ivy]

how is T important

[rancid tiger]

Estethics man!

[wispy tundra]

you're right. Gemini lied to me (shocking, I know)

[distant pilot]

Haven’t had a chance to try daisy chaining yet since I’m on a fresh save

[ornate saffron]

I just did head math.... and to think I'm a high-school drop out lol

[next ivy]

which machines get chaining
everything past foundries ?

[wispy tundra]

I'm still on 1.1 but since this is not considered cheating by the devs anymore, I installed the daisy chain mod

[mortal ginkgo]

Let me complain about it:

1. It doesnt solve anything that BPs didnt. It was already easy enough to daisy chain that way.

2. It made mk2 and even mk3 poles useless.

Devs really like adding stuff that makes previous stuff useless.

QQ

[distant pilot]

Also the game has a built-in calculator

[ornate saffron]

I installed a daisy chain assets using the blueprinter

[distant pilot]

When you press N a search bar pops up that doubles as a calculator

[wispy tundra]

I have to turn off the last generator and underclock the second-to-last to 66.665 (or 65% to have some leeway)

[rancid tiger]

Well complain all you want, I still think it is amazing

[distant pilot]

You can type in 200/3% to have it be as close to exact as the game can possibly allow

[mortal ginkgo]

No it isnt. Whats next? teleporting trains Mam research because rail ways are hard to put?

I am done with this game. Gonna ask for refund since I morally superior and justified.

[ornate saffron]

With fuel generators you want exact numbers or machines will turn on and off choking and flooding pipes causing backflow and slooshing

[wispy tundra]

ohhh I see

[rancid tiger]

mimimi, I have been here long enough to know daisy chaining on buildings has been requested many times already

[ornate saffron]

They fluids don't sip and slowly release. They spit and gulp. So I try and keep it simple

[wispy tundra]

oh so THAT'S what causes backflow - the machine consuming less fluid than what's coming

[mortal ginkgo]

mimimi back. no u. kek.

[wispy tundra]

or, to simplify, a dead end in pipes. that's what causes backflow

[mortal ginkgo]

I lile how dasiy chaining clips through stuff tho. kinda kek

[wispy tundra]

THE SPICE MUST FLOW

[real shale]

it didnt make them useless tho?

[ornate saffron]

It can.

Example

You are on the beach and a big wave hits the dock. Some water goes onto the dock but much splashes back into the lake

[rancid tiger]

This is not Dune bro ..

[real shale]

you still need to unlock MK2 and MK3 before you can unlock daisy chaining

[wispy tundra]

makes sense

[real shale]

and not only that, poles can be used for aesthetic purposes too

[distant pilot]

But it’s not like I ever used MK3 poles anyway, and I doubt may other people did

Especially with wall-mounted power connectors

[wispy tundra]

and to check on the grid

[ornate saffron]

This is a Starbucks sir. I like my pumpkin spiced latte extra spicy

[mortal ginkgo]

nobody gonna use them anymore = useless in a way

[real shale]

they still have to though?

[mortal ginkgo]

its like how nobody uses jel and jumppad because parachute is infinite

[wispy tundra]

but they will, unless you keep every machine close to a power tower

[real shale]

you unlock those before daisy chaining

[mortal ginkgo]

sure tell me one reason other than hypertube cannon where mk3 is needed

[real shale]

easy, when you dont have daisy chaining unlocked

[wispy tundra]

and like I said, to have a point to check on your power grid without having to go all the way to your power plant

[ornate saffron]

Daisy chains are another tool in the box. Ill likely make my own chains using wall nodes and the blueprinter so they are where I want them to be. But im happy they exist for the others that like them

[real shale]

I used MK3 for rows of refineries

also did they change high speed connectors in 1.2?

Apparently you no longer unlock them in tier 7 anymore

[mortal ginkgo]

people don't need to even use mk2 versions as BPing makes daisy chaining easy. Power Towers are vastly superior for long power transfers too.

As I said I am happy for you all. More power to you lot.

Doesnt change the fact that each update makes a previous system not needed.

[real shale]

what like how the game operates when you get upgraded builables or alternative recipes?

[wispy tundra]

again, will you put power towers close to everything?

[real shale]

you did

with control system development you got them

[wispy tundra]

at some point you'll need to pull a wire FROM a power tower that's not close enough to a machine you can daisy chain with

[real shale]

then the wiki is lying to me actively

[hushed pewter]

Is the Plumbing Manual still required since 1.1/1.2 exp? I missed some patch notes. E.g. the variable priority junction to get water for an aluminum ingot plant correct?

[real shale]

the official one too

#screenshots message

[fierce sigil]

Wait, how did daisy chaining make Mk 2 and 3 poles useless when Mk 1 poles exist?

[white dawn]

More a topic for #satisfactory-experimental btw

[real shale]

it didnt

[fierce sigil]

Even before 1.2, I never used Mk3s, and rarely used Mk2s.

[white dawn]

But yeah, it did not. It's a convenience, nothing more! You can trivially daisy-chain on the public version today with blueprints. Put building in blueprint, construct some beams into the machine, place wall socket on beam, dismantle beams, save blueprint. Viola! daisy-chainable machines.

[minor elk]

I believe it's a "forced unlocked unless you do it through the MAM first" type of thing, since it's required for one the project parts.

crystal oscillators are the same thing

[real shale]

What Era is saying makes sense actually

[minor elk]

Unlocked at
Quartz Research - Crystal Oscillator
or Tier 7 – Bauxite Refinement

from the wiki for those too ^^

[real shale]

because you do need them for supercomputers unless you want to go alternative recipes

[fierce sigil]

Aluminum processing also unlocks Quartz scanning, which you get way earlier in the MAM as well

[minor elk]

Yep, you get the scanning early if you find the node first iirc

I already had caterium scanning well before phase 2 lol

[real shale]

same goes for RCUs which you literally cannot do without either crystal oscillators or HSCs

[minor elk]

but you want to unlock it anyway through the MAM as it doesn't unlock the alt recipe Note: Unlocking the default recipe through Tier 7 – Bauxite Refinement without doing its MAM research does not make the alternate recipe available.

[real shale]

huh.... strange

[mortal ginkgo]

you can use its mk1 pole output to daisy chain to your hearts content.

mk1 poles were needed but mk2 and mk3 is now easy to avoid because MaM is also designed poorly as its progress isnt tight only to factory but random drops near crash sites

[ornate saffron]

This issue has never come up for me as I always speed run the MAM. Its so useful to let slide

[cunning glade]

Wait what

[real shale]

guess the forced unlocks, makes zero MAM runs possible albeit tortorous

[cunning glade]

Quartz scanning is not t7?

[real shale]

it is

[cunning glade]

I can scan for quartz tho what

Ah

[real shale]

Quartz scanning is unlocked with bauxite refinement

[mortal ginkgo]

you can find a quartz vein or smol rock for it to be found

[pallid gazelle]

Hi, im doing my farms with yt tutorials, i should do that?

[cunning glade]

I was gonna say I just got steel and I could scan for quartz for a while

[barren orbit]

Yo anyone able to help me with my train issue ?

[cunning glade]

#1038092680493801533 if it's complex make a post if not well ask in here

[real shale]

I need cooling systems and turbo motors man

[whole robin]

What do you mean by "farms"?

[ornate saffron]

Factories.

I'm personally of the viewpoint of play and figure it out as I find most the joy of the game comes from achieving goals through strife and working through the puzzles via logistics.

But if you gain joy through yt videos and such and that is how you prefer to learn. Go for it

[jagged nymph]

theres no farming in this game

[pallid gazelle]

Factorys? Like a iron factory?

[cunning glade]

Prolly means frames

[real shale]

Meow

[pallid gazelle]

I come from minecraft, and there the automatic things are called like that

[supple canopy]

I don't care about power poles mk2 and 3 because they made things look like a mess anyways but my grudge with daisy chaining is I ONLY JUST adopted this method of cable management (and I'm going to keep doing it) #screenshots message

[pallid gazelle]

Thanks, i think im doing that just for learn a little bit

[jagged nymph]

oh so you mean factories? nah do it yourself, thats kinda the entire point of playing this game, to build factories

[real shale]

Okay i am so confused, someone please tell me they've had this issue before, everytime i boot up the game my todo list alternates between two different to-do lists as if im entering alternative timelines or something

[ornate saffron]

They is no right way to play. Like Minecraft there is goals you can reach but it can just be a sandbox too. Whatever brings you joy my dude/dudette

[pallid gazelle]

Thanks

[supple canopy]

Yes but what beefalo said is very important, on youtube and on here you'll hear a lot of "you should do this this way or that way" but ultimately the game is VERY "do what you want" friendly

[fierce sigil]

Mk 2 and 3 poles were never needed in the first place for the same reason. You can power your entire factory with Mk 1s if you want. The only advantage to Mk2 and 3 is organization and aesthetics, which are still relevant with daisy chaining since a single building only has 2 connections.

[cunning glade]

I watched a video a long time ago for a nice starting factory too guide me after that I was on my own do whatever helps u and makes it fun for u

[reef basin]

where?

[real shale]

HSC page

[earnest dock]

Dont build a megafactory
Game wants you to manufacture items at the nodes and then transport end product like frames to your base

[reef basin]

what's wrong there?

[real shale]

its saying theres a different recipe between experimental and stable with different unlock requirements

[mortal ginkgo]

thats my point. there is already a way of not using poles and BPs already have about it. I got my power go from below because I like it.

Now they are 99% useless. Up from 95%.

It is ok though. I already requestedy refund as I am over 930 hours. Sucks to be you lot. I kek at you all pure node tappers!

[reef basin]

same recipe, just changed requirements I guess

though it seems weird. Will investigate

[real shale]

thanks

[cunning glade]

I'm def gonna do an overkill coal power plant

I have decided I don't wanna deal with biomass

I have I think 12 normal and pure nodes all right next too each other in the desert

[supple canopy]

same for quickwire

[mortal ginkgo]

you are correct. they could at least have some range buff or something. I only use mk2 because they look prettier even as smol pieces on walls. Never a pole aside from again, aesthetics.

A galaxywide company using some silly cables was already silly enough while having alien tech. Now we got DISGUSTING HERETICAL daisy chaining?

NOT ON MY WATCH!

[cunning glade]

Also am I stupid or in ea did u have too turn plates into rods I swear that was a thing but maybe I'm just dumb

[reef basin]

yeah we had new system for the wiki data implmeneted and some bugs must have slipped through

[real shale]

and crystal oscillators

[cunning glade]

Swear I remember having too do more for rods Early game but maybe not

[fierce sigil]

Maybe you are thinking about screws?

[mortal ginkgo]

need for rods are extremely reduced if used cast screws

[cunning glade]

Yeah ik that and it could be me thinking of that ig

[floral sparrow]

How much should I worry about deforestation affecting game performance long-term?

[ornate saffron]

Mmmmm aluminum rods

Aluminum rods are the hot rod of recipes

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes used by 3 people, 1 being an QA tester

gud jerb

[dapper glen]

i rlly wanna play satisfactory with all pure nodes only but i feel like id get slandered for it

[supple canopy]

there used to be an item called steel plate but adk if it needed rods

[ornate saffron]

One being me. Who's the third?

[cunning glade]

No wrong way too play

[ornate saffron]

Naw do it

[supple canopy]

what because you'll make 10TW of power ? Let them be jealous

[cunning glade]

I did mostly pure and normal cuz I did random nodes and cuz the game is to limiting in terms of base map resources

[mortal ginkgo]

UR MOM LOL GOTEM BROTHERMAN KEK BUR BBQ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[dapper glen]

[ornate saffron]

More ore means more logistic nightmares.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I wanna build big and have fun

[uneven path]

It's a video game, you play it for enjoyment. If you'd find it fun to play with all pure then do it 🤷‍♂️

[real shale]

one being me

[dapper glen]

logic nightmares.... my favourite kind of masochists haven...

[mortal ginkgo]

true way of playing is with impure nodes

[ornate saffron]

I spread my mom's ashes into the Atlantic ocean when I was 14. She suffered a long time before death which was a true release

[dapper glen]

death wish

[wispy tundra]

OK, so... what if my OCD doesn't like fractions and I put a valve on my pipe so it flows 50/m instead of 53.333?

[supple canopy]

that's what an impure limestone node would say

[uneven path]

I can't help but feel this may be a biased answer....

[cunning glade]

Ignore him he's biased if u couldn't tell

[mortal ginkgo]

#nobias #onlytruth

[mortal ginkgo]

lol delusional take big dawwg

go touch grass omg

[real shale]

hmmmm do i tear down the steel factory entirely or retrofit it....decisions decisions

[dapper glen]

i have a save with my friend where all the nodes are random and we started in the desert, GUESS WHAT SPAWNED NEAR US

[mortal ginkgo]

impure limestone?

[wispy tundra]

Pure uranium

[dapper glen]

YES

[wispy tundra]

ROFLMAO

[cunning glade]

Can a drone handle a pure uranium miner?

[mortal ginkgo]

mine it and drop the content near your friend

[ornate saffron]

I honestly think this is best for some players first playthrough to competion. My coworker keeps getting stuck on "waste" if all nods are impure build costs 50% he will reach max output faster and get him to endgame so he can see everything as a whole and change his perspective

[dapper glen]

IM IN URANIUM FEVER ALREADY AND I JUST STARTED THE GAME

[cunning glade]

Bro got the cancer rocks

[mortal ginkgo]

you can put urainum in coal gens btw. just needs a bit more water

[dapper glen]

you get random nodes with a side of starting out with cancer

[real shale]

NOPE, TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD

[reef basin]

neither, just build new

[real shale]

Too late, already rebuilding it, it has been designated as part of project grassy field rebuild

[whole robin]

Hed probably die before he could get 12 steps away from the node (speaking from experience)

[mortal ginkgo]

SPAM THOSE NUTS BROTHERMAN FOR OUR CAUSE IS JUST

everyone knows beyrl nuts are anti cancer

[supple canopy]

I burnt out of two playthroughs because upon reaching endgame I thought I'd lack ressources so I tore down everything for my big final factory which I never made because I spent hours in a factory game with no functionnal factory

[cunning glade]

Fsr4 looks so much better than whatever is in this game stock

[whole robin]

For real though, the pure node will be amazing for sink points, especially since theres not much else to use it on

[feral vector]

oh my god I just realized you can set the height when you place a belt

[cunning glade]

I love optiscaler I love that this game doesn't have an anti cheat

And maybe we get proper HDR

[jagged nymph]

theres also the stackable conveyor pole

[cunning glade]

I was trying too get renodx too work but it made frame gen break

[real shale]

i rebuilt an entire biome and im as lively as ever

[feral vector]

I was trying to use stackable conveyor poles this whole time but that's way more annoying if you just want to place one belt higher up

[jagged nymph]

yeah

when i have a belt raised its almsot always cause i have them stacked thogh

[real shale]

besides the steel factory has a legacy truck path that i would LOVE to make into a new path

[feral vector]

literally all I've done today is figure out how to make a blueprint to smart sort things into storage and have overflow get merged onto a belt to go to a sink

I thought I'd just quickly set up a storage section in my factory, not really working out that way

I haven't even figured out how the belts will get to the storage either lol I might have to not be lazy and make a second floor for belts

[wise junco]

logistics floors are the bee's knees

[jagged nymph]

is there a way on scim or smth to see hard drive crash site loot

[nocturne nebula]

Oooh. Somebody on YouTube?

[real shale]

you are the bee's knees

[jagged nymph]

nope ib this server

[nocturne nebula]

Awww

[jagged nymph]

@spare prism send a screenshot of your spelevator requirements

[wise junco]

no u

[real shale]

no u

[jagged nymph]

from terraria??

[spare prism]

im on exp

[jagged nymph]

oh

well youve sent one before ill find it

[nocturne nebula]

🙏🏻

[spare prism]

#screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message

[spare prism]

#screenshots message

[nocturne nebula]

Millions! 😂

[jagged nymph]

wait wait wait why do you need the preivous tier requirements too 💀

[nocturne nebula]

How many machines though?

[spare prism]

it addes extra

[minor elk]

The screenshot below that one would be my base if I attempted that

[supple canopy]

4 774 / 2 500 00 is painful 😭

[gloomy tusk]

you boosted server W

we can send longer videos now

[jagged nymph]

yeah and like its not even a challenge its legit just afk for longer 😭

[nocturne nebula]

Lol

[ornate saffron]

Afk play certainly helps the electric company male money.

[nocturne nebula]

Keep your room toasty at night!!!

Hehe

[ornate saffron]

This is a joke for some but I've legit done this many of times

[nocturne nebula]

Lol

[jagged nymph]

i think a pc running for longer than it usually would would make a very minimal impact considering the electric bill at my house jumps like 500 dollars in the summer cause our upstairs is very poorly insulated so the ac has to work really ahrd

[nocturne nebula]

I used to play on my laptop. Kept me toasty in winter once when I couldn't afford fuel. Glad those days are behind me. Lol

[jagged nymph]

and the pc running is what like a few extra dollars a month

[nocturne nebula]

Tosty laptop on a lap is amazing for body heat. Lol

[ornate saffron]

Greater context matter but you understand the point in isolation.

In a workd where brown outs and rolling black outs are becoming more common its better to conserve.

[jagged nymph]

i mean if every house had an extra pc running it would probably make a difference

[frosty sedge]

Any old players know roughly how long 1.2 will be experimental I want a random node run ngl

Damm

[jagged nymph]

no 1.2 is on experimental already

oh nvm i see what you mean

i thought you were asking when it comes out on experimental

[feral vector]

solid steel ingots seem really good

[jagged nymph]

yeah it makes the numbers work out much better

[frosty sedge]

Nah nah I'm console so I just wondered roughly

[feral vector]

alright guess that'll be my first alt recipe

[jagged nymph]

cast screws is a good one early game too

or wiat youre at steel nvm

[feral vector]

I got it too late when I already had a full container full of extra screws

[jagged nymph]

steel screws is really good

[jagged nymph]

why does that matter?

[frail plover]

Very important question, will the lizard doggos ever stop phasing through the floor? Or will they forever remain non-compliance to the rules of physics

[jagged nymph]

why do you even need to store screws

[feral vector]

I had so many I didn't really care about making them easier

[jagged nymph]

well you still need them to make things though?

[feral vector]

I guess I don't I was brand new and just making extra stuff

[jagged nymph]

and the only thing that uses them for building is the awesome shop

[feral vector]

hmm maybe I should unlock cast screws too then

[jagged nymph]

steel screws is usually better though

[feral vector]

seems like mk4 belts are kinda far away if I just got to phase 3, might redo a bunch of production right now with mk2 miners

[jagged nymph]

cast scres is good in like phase 1 just to make the scres a little easier

[feral vector]

yeah I already had a production chain making lots of them so I kinda just ignored the alt recipe

[jagged nymph]

yeah i mean if you already have it set up it doesnt make a different really

it just saves time to remove an extra production step

when youres setting up the factory

[feral vector]

one hard drive has steel cast plate and cast screws, one has stitched iron plate and cheap silica, and my newest one has solid steel ingot and automated miner. I think I'm gonna unlock solid steel ingot right away and redo my steel production

[jagged nymph]

i wouldnt redo it

but if you expand in the future you could use the new recipe

you usually dont wanna tear down an existing functional factory

[feral vector]

hmm I guess I can just leave it, it's just not particularly efficient lol... one thing of coal is pushing 60 into two foundries so I'm wasting a bunch there, and the other one is only running 180 a minute instead of 240

[jagged nymph]

well then just add on to the factory, and split another line off the miner

no need to tear down the stuff thats already there

[feral vector]

most of my steel is just a basic blueprint that makes beams and pipes, I didn't properly automate stuff before finishing phase 2

I kinda want to make actual production lines for some parts instead of just using storage containers to feed assemblers lol

I really gotta figure out storage, production stopping cause containers are full is no good

[jagged nymph]

use a smart splitter to send overflow into an awesome sink

[bitter silo]

Im going through a "phase" of just making blueprints of most processes (constructor assembler refinery etc) to try and make them more efficient

[reef basin]

only one of those

[feral vector]

yeah I figured that much out but I was trying to do it all where the storage containers are

[jagged nymph]

lemme show you a little blueprint i setup (that ive yet to use as i havnt setup my storage facilityu yet)

[unkempt blade]

cast screws is the best recipe in the game

[astral robin]

maybe dumb question, how do I change the equipped nobelisk type?

[jagged nymph]

hold r

[astral robin]

thank you

[feral vector]

can't I just wait for steel screws if I have screws automated for my recipes?

[green fiber]

do you have steel unlocked?

[wise junco]

a screws factory, but no belts, only carts

[unkempt blade]

You could try. Depends how much you want to chase after recipes with RNG

[green fiber]

factory carts only is actually not that insane of a thought.... in 1.2 at least

im pretty sure that you can abuse the paths in 1.2 to make factory carts drive on normal dirt

[normal orbit]

dont fall for the big screw propaganda :p

[green fiber]

negating their main weakness completely

oh they do truck stations just fine

[unkempt blade]

that's right, only fall for the littlest [production chain] screw propaganda, cast screws

[feral vector]

@jagged nymph that would need lots of sinks right, more for endgame?

[jagged nymph]

i mean one for each item, why does that matter?

[wise junco]

i heard that Big Screw™ put the no-screw recipes in the game to stir up screw hatred for marketing - after all, getting people talking about screws, good or bad, is good, right?

[jagged nymph]

not like theyre expensive

[normal orbit]

no they work fine. just seems people arent properly connecting path to the station or station to path

[green fiber]

" all publicity is good publicity" => statement invented by big screw to extract more screws from you

[unkempt blade]

yeah no-screws is just engagement bait not an actual good choice for people to make

[feral vector]

they use quite a bit of power, no?

[wise junco]

30 mw each, i think?

[jagged nymph]

just 30 mw when running

[unkempt blade]

once you have automatable power the power cost really isn't that huge of a problem

[jagged nymph]

if you have say 50 of them its just 1500mw which is only 6 fuel generators

[feral vector]

lol I seem to keep spending my time setting up stuff that doesn't work in practice

[jagged nymph]

thats also assuming all of the 50 are running

[unkempt blade]

You're just learning the game. Sounds like you're doing great

[feral vector]

I'm still using coal and I have really neglected my factory so I was trying to fix stuff before I figure out how to move to the next generators

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message since when does this place has 4 ALPHA STINGERS????

[feral vector]

yeah it wasn't a waste of time it's just not very productive

productive for learning, not for my factory lol

[unkempt blade]

Other than coupons for the awesome shop the big benefit for overflow-sinking everything is your power consumption is going to be VERY predictable. Surprise power consumption can take down your power network

[fluid sapphire]

peaceful mode

[wise junco]

you know, i could buy some factory carts rn

[feral vector]

yeah its just going from my mess of a factory to one that's organized with storage and sinks is hurting my brain lol

[unkempt blade]

You'll get there. You're amazing and talented and I believe in you

[feral vector]

I kind of want to automate everything I have access to but I gotta figure out how I'm gonna get overflow to a sink and how I'm gonna get everything to storage

all my containers all over the factory is so ridiculous

[supple canopy]

build everywhere to prevent respawn

[feral vector]

and production backing up cause I have no sinks is awful lol

[jagged nymph]

i should go make some tacos

lowk went to press f to craft some tacos, been playing dsp lmao

No, i've been playing dyson sphere program today and you press f to craft things, so instinctively i tried to press f on my keyboard to go craft some tacos

You dont

[wise junco]

tacos sound delicious

[jagged nymph]

Ever heard of the Tetris effect?

[fluid sapphire]

map is pretty big, also not every buildable counts, i have lots of places with spawners right next to foundations

[wise junco]

and we all believe in you

[supple canopy]

yea I think you need powered stuff
It used to be inconsistent so I don't know exactly what work and what doesn't

[fluid sapphire]

yeah its easier for me to ignore mobs entirely

fighting gets old after a few hundred hours

nothing to gain from it, just annoyance

[pure condor]

what all do I need to bring for when I go to get oil because I just unlocked it and I dont want to travel super far just to not have everything I need to use it

[fluid sapphire]

build a pair of hypertube cannons and travel freely

[pure condor]

should I just build a second factory over there and connect the power '

[pure condor]

ok I was thinking of doing that

[fluid sapphire]

but generally yes, spread out

the whole map is yours

it will start feeling smaller as you go

[idle perch]

should i buy a megafactory of concrete that only produce concrete bcs im bored?

[fluid sapphire]

thats not a megafactory

[normal orbit]

how pricey is it, like $3.50?

[idle perch]

a big big ahh factory then

[fluid sapphire]

why not 🤷

[pure condor]

what ive been doing is just using a super long conveyer belt for things far away and bringing it to my main thing

[tall lantern]

what does an ahh factory make?

[idle perch]

ahh's

[fluid sapphire]

its the gen z cop out version of ass

[fluid sapphire]

just concrete isnt particularly interesting though, is it? sure you have more fulfilling objectives

[idle perch]

mmmh yeah, i should make it of, mmmmh idk

i mean i alredy finished the game

[fluid sapphire]

ahh

[idle perch]

i just doing bs around

[fluid sapphire]

go nuts then

gather all limestone on the map

[pure condor]

elevators are so fun

I quite like them

[proven snow]

Looking into Mercer Spheres might help with not having the right materials on hand

[pure condor]

I spent like a lot of time yesterday just getting mercer spheres

I got it upgraded a bit I love them a lot

I completely forgot I did tha tbrahhhh

thanks

[clever tendon]

so now that 1.2 is out on experimental, when would the full release typically be? This is quite a big update so could be a month or two before full release?

[jagged nymph]

like a few months

[clever tendon]

👍🏻

[real shale]

yum

[jagged nymph]

muy

[jagged nymph]

i ate them

[pure condor]

oh actually?

[next ivy]

tacos ?

[jagged nymph]

alpha key?

but bread tastes better than key

[zealous coral]

key taste better than bread

[spare prism]

@jagged nymph #screenshots message what you think of my world

[jagged nymph]

mucho verde

no idea why i said that in spanish

i dont even know spanish

[spare prism]

🤣

[earnest escarp]

[real shale]

#screenshots message the latest extension to my city

[granite mango]

I just build the elevator and realize how huge that is and how very little flat spaces I have around my starting location lol

how should I approach setting up foundations before procceeding? I accumulated some materials for it and want to first set it up, currently everything is scattered and in different heights xD
which height of foundation do I use?

[tall lantern]

up to you, and how much you care about fitting in closer to the ground vs building above it so it doesn't matter

[granite mango]

welp I just want something flat and accessible

[tall lantern]

then you could just build a lil higher so the height of the ground beneath is irrelevant

at least within the local area

a lesson you'll learn early on in here is that a lot of stuff comes down to individual preference, and there's no universal answer to most questions

[pure condor]

I just got the somer thing it sounds hilarious 😭

[supple canopy]

hell yea

[empty spoke]

can i actually unlock every single alt recipe?

40 drives left and it feels like the alts are only repeating so ig i dont got many mores to go

[tall lantern]

yes

[empty spoke]

was such a hustle tho so worth it

[jagged nymph]

remember that if you havnt unlocked all the milestones yet there will be more to unlock after you unlock them

[white dawn]

The pool of available recipes is limited by what you've got unlocked, btw. You'll have more options as you unlock more things

[granite mango]

thanks haha, ofcourse - it was more of a how to set the foundations to make it work into a flat area while there are hills around

[white dawn]

But yeah, there are more drives than you can use -- you'll end up with like 5 extra if you collect 'em all

[tall lantern]

like I said, either place 'em closer to ground and work around it, or just build higher than the hills and ignore the terrain

[white dawn]

(You can also buy hard drives direct from the AWESOME shop, eventually, if you don't feel like exploring. Though they are pretty expensive)

[floral sparrow]

Do you think there's enough to do in early game Satisfactory for three people in a multi-player playthrough? I've gotten to tier 4 and my friends would be new

[empty spoke]

i think i have everything unlocked, missing only 1 milestone in t9 and my mam is also done

[reef basin]

honestly, I wouldn't recommend doing multiplayer when people are inexperienced

[inner ruin]

Ive just unlocked oil

[floral sparrow]

Why so?

[inner ruin]

They’re inexperienced

[reef basin]

because the game is designed so that the player learns by doing. If half (or more) of things are done by other people, the new players don't learn anything

we had so many cases of people coming here with "help factory broken" and when asked about it, they replied with "idk friend built it idk how it works"

[inner ruin]

How could one not know how it works

[reef basin]

I'd say multiplayer should be done after every player played through at least most of the game

[dense violet]

the tiers and milestones are basically a tutorial to teach you all the mechanics

so if you don't do parts of the tutorial, you don't know what is going on

[reef basin]

because "friend built it and I didn't care about it, so I didn't learn the mechanics connected to that production line"

[proven snow]

Semi-related I played through all of Valheim with a buddy and completed it, but never touched the build system bc he did everything 😅

[inner ruin]

Theyre all basically the same thing just with a different item going through it

[floral sparrow]

We're all pretty communicative and they just want a funny time with friends more than long-term mastery and optimisation, etc. Just wondering if there's more so enough to physically occupy three players at once at the start in your opinion

[proven snow]

I am an advocate of playing a game solo or with like 1 other newbie friend for the first playthrough though

[tall lantern]

and every game is just "click in the right place at the right time to win" if we're being reductionist 😛

[reef basin]

one example for all: coal gens teach you pipes, players that have coal built by other players usually struggle a lot with pipes at oil

[dense violet]

well, past the tutorial after phase 5? sure.
but you'd better hope everyone did everything or people won't be able to plan their projects very well

[inner ruin]

Tbh i kinda suck with pipes so i just gave each extractor 2 powerplants 😂

[floral sparrow]

I don't think I'm conveying how casual and low-stakes my friends would want it to be

[jagged nymph]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[jagged nymph]

you can use one of the layouts in the link thuymbnail

[dense violet]

I mean if your only goal is to finish phase 5 that's not hard.
you basically don't have to think about anything and make super sloppy factories.
but the game really starts after you have unlocked all your options

[reef basin]

well obviously it's your choice, I wouldn't recommend it, but ofc do whatever you want 😉

[floral sparrow]

My only goal is to have a chill, fun time with friends

[empty spoke]

how much liquid can a truck transfer in 1.2?

oh 3200 nvm

[jagged nymph]

as much as it can hold

[dense violet]

I was under the impression they could carry 2400 in a go

[jagged nymph]

he said in 1.2

[empty spoke]

hmm is it wise to transfer water with my trucks for my power plant

[dense violet]

it's an option?
easier to build power near water though

[empty spoke]

well im in the middle of the ocean, the problem is just, that im pretty high up, either id have to come up with a crazy creative design or use 100s of pumps

[supple canopy]

new freight cars carry 2400m3 (against 1600 previously), trucks do 3200m3

[dense violet]

... build lower?

there's a lot of reasons sky factories are problems

[jagged nymph]

yeah, mainly the altitude

[supple canopy]

no creative design will bypass the use of pumps for fluids

[dense violet]

there's replacements for them though
like you coudl... build a ton of ramps and have trucks move it.
just more work

[empty spoke]

yeah that was my thought aswell

could also look cool

otherwise i dont have much use for trucks tbh

[keen flame]

hi

[keen flame]

raising the pipes ever so slightly at every new build so that it doesn‘t recognize being on a positive slope

with 10 trillion pipes

hello maxeek

how are you

[supple canopy]

LOL that's been tested?

[keen flame]

no i just made that up, but if the height system is fixed and not relative then it won‘t even work

putting what remains

maxeek do you have something to tell us

LOL

well she does release co2 into the atmosphere like she‘s playing satisfactory so

[dense violet]

between factories?

[supple canopy]

does anyone have the old world map with the old biome names etc? I remember there was a subbiome in the titan forest called "Get Lost"

can't find it anywhere

[empty spoke]

megafactory

[whole robin]

Singers as in musical artists?

[honest summit]

kinda confused on trains so if i build a 2 way train stop can i still have a all aroudn the world train raildroad but jsut place stop singals and junctions and it will go to the correct place?

[dense violet]

draw what you mean in #math-and-meta , cause that's confusing

[honest summit]

i posted it there

[real shale]

wow, versatile framework uses a lot of steel beams i am noticing

[honest summit]

if 2 different train tracks collide will the train on them also collide?

[reef basin]

yes

[white dawn]

That's what Block Signals are for -- you enclose the intersection in signals, which turns the intersection into one block. The game will only let one train be in a block at the same time, thus preventing crashes

(There's also Path Signals, which are slightly fancier, but you can ignore those for now. They're optional)

Note that once you put in some block signals around an intersection, you've really got to use block signals everywhere, otherwise everything outside that intersection would be one gigantic block (and the game wouldn't let more than one train be in it). You'd want a block signal every 100-300m or so on straightaways, etc.

[undone ether]

why is 1.2 kinda underwhelming

i was honestly like really excited

[reef basin]

for what? there's tons of stuff in it