satisfactory

[west jackal]

Doing this^ gonna max nitro then either turn the byproduct into more rocket fuel or turn into steel

[cunning glade]

Sure if u don't need sulfur for the rest of the game

[sudden anvil]

Is there a trick to not having straight conveyors go all crooked when you are making long runs over foundations?

[cunning glade]

Use default mode

And hold control iirc

[jagged nymph]

who needs sulfur?????????? i dont?????? do you??????? why???? it smells bad anyway????

[cunning glade]

Use straight mode for turns and etc

[mortal ginkgo]

put a support down when you see it happening

[cunning glade]

Well nuclear does and a few other things

[mortal ginkgo]

after that support it will be straight once again

[jagged nymph]

but it smells bad though

[cunning glade]

I hope they plan too fix this

[jagged nymph]

yeah its really anooying

[mortal ginkgo]

considering it happens for tracks and rails.. eh... eeeh..... ehhhhhhhhh....

[cunning glade]

Nuh uh

[cunning glade]

It does?

[jagged nymph]

sulfur 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎

[meager fern]

sulfur definetly smells bad. thats why rotten eggs are described to smell like sulfur

[dire salmon]

Factory 😍 😍 😍

[jagged nymph]

no this is patrick

[normal orbit]

rotten egg smell is from dihydrogensulfide. H2S not sulfur itself

[jagged nymph]

i wish i was high on potenuse

[dire salmon]

flower pot...

[jagged nymph]

cause flower pot taste better than dihydrogensulfide

[west jackal]

So... are rotten eggs explosive?

Asking for a friend-

[normal orbit]

probably not, they dont give off much of the gas

the level of concentration to smell H2S is very low

[meager fern]

i didnt say they had sulfur, i said thats why its described to smell like sulfur, because it smells bad

[west jackal]

Sulfur isnt what smells though right? Its when it mixes with air?

[normal orbit]

water mostly

[meager fern]

idk i dont go around smelling sulfur, so i couldnt say

[normal orbit]

which comes from humidity in air

you can smell it in concentrations as low as a few ppb

[dire salmon]

because floadfr pot has pot...
Titanium armor is the counterpart to Adamantite armor along with the ore itself in Terraria. It is spawned every third altar you break, becoming more and more abundant every time to help with acquiring it in early hard mode. The other hardmode ores and their counterparts are Palladium and Cobalt, Mythril and Orichalcum and Adamantite and Titanium. Ores without counterparts are Chlorophyte, Hallowed and Luminite, due to being a drop from a certain boss with the mechanical bosses dropping Hallowed and Moonlord dropping Luminite, Chlorophyte is found without any counterpart within the underground Jungle biome.

why did i get ada reacted by dyno

??

[normal orbit]

a d a mantite :p

[dire salmon]

ohhh

i was talking about terraria lmao

[normal orbit]

bot dont care :p

[dire salmon]

i thought it was because i was yapping

[next ivy]

you gotta ficsit

[normal orbit]

also if you smell rotten eggs then suddenly stop smelling rotten eggs. vacate the area fast as f'

[dire salmon]

wgatvdoes it mean

bomb ?

[normal orbit]

mean the concentation increased so much you no longer smell it and its highly toxic

[dire salmon]

oh

you joined this server on my birthday

[plucky hemlock]

I made a world back when 1.0 released but I havent played 1.1 or 1.2. Is there any need to create a new world to get the new content or I can keep playing the same world?

[normal orbit]

1.2 adds new game modes with random nodes and other challenges if thats of intrest

but you can keep playing if you're not into that

[pale tree]

is it worth automating the phase 2 elevator parts?

i usually just make one assembler and manually feed it a ton of parts

dont remember if the parts are used later tho

[normal orbit]

yes its worth automating in an automation game :p

each elevator step uses parts from previous

[pale tree]

ah ok

[bleak valley]

Should I craft items? Seems like the only use of an item is to craft more items. Do I need this to beat the game?

[floral sparrow]

Will nobelisks allow me to clear the generic small rocks in the ground or does it only remove the cracked ones?

[pale tree]

well i didnt know if it was used later

[bleak valley]

This wasn’t specific to you just think it’s funny

[pale tree]

ah

[floral sparrow]

Satisfactory with the least amount of automation possible challenge (I have been holding my mouse for five years)

[meager fern]

besides fluids, technically its possbile to complete the game with no "automation". just place the craft materials into machines manually, and take them out manually

just dont place any belts, and challenge "complete"

[clear gyro]

1.3 patch notes: pipes now make sense

[supple canopy]

also most generic rocks, but not all

[dense violet]

if by 'generic rocks' you mean some of hte tiny rubble on teh ground? but not the big ones , unless cracked

[floral sparrow]

Yeah, just the common rocks littering the plains between the bushes and trees

I wonder what the map would look like with everything cut down, uprooted, blown up, or otherwise removed

[dense violet]

it's pretty bland

[supple canopy]

something like this (foliage not rendered) #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Just go really high in the sky everything like that will derender

[odd fractal]

does anyone know if there's a way to start a creative(ish) game, where you have all the standard recipes unlocked and able to build, but none of the tiers and phases unlocked? I kind of want to walk some friends thru a fun game, but be able to build the cool stuff like jet packs and trucks while we scout and build up our little empire.

I know in exp1.2, you can choose to start with the phases completed in creative mode, but I'd like to go thru the unlock process if that makes sense. Probably doesn't, but anyway, just curious if anyone has done this.

[sick falcon]

basically anything smaller than the titan forest trees can be blown up (except for some random plants in the pink forest for some reason

[normal orbit]

can do it with scim

unlock all tiers but not the phases

[odd fractal]

I tried messing around, but ended up in game with all the stuff, but all the tiers and phases greyed out. wonder if that's a 1.2 buggy thing. I guess I need to port back to 1.1 and try it.

[unkempt blade]

pink is scientifically the strongest color so that just makes sense

[daring cape]

I just tried a few different random nodes gamemode sessions and everytime all the nodes all are impure, is this a bug? are they legitimately all impure or is it just a visual bug where it just says that they are? Also I know you can select a game setting for all the nodes to be impure and i checked and made sure that option was not seleceted for any of those sessions

[odd fractal]

my first random, all the nodes were "normal". turns out I messed up and chose average for quality, instead of leaving it on default.

[golden nexus]

theres a setting for nodes

[unkempt blade]

so I didn't just luck out and get all ultrapures?

[marsh rose]

I'm thinking of buying satisfactory again on steam (I own it on epic atm) while it's on sale, but $30 bucks is a lot for me, especially as someone who never got past phase 3 before Epic lost all my save data. It would be much easier to play on deck, I'd likely get better preformance, and my saves would be unlikely to corrupt, but it'd be basically the rest of my steam wallet from xmas.
What are your thoughts?

[hollow matrix]

SATISFACTORY IS COOL

[unkempt blade]

Is that convenience enough for you to want to play? The game itself isn't different beyond that

[dense violet]

why would you spend 30$, which is a lot, on the same game on the same platform?

is your pc that much worse than your deck?

[marsh rose]

I primarily use linux, and heroic launcher isn't perfect

[dense violet]

and shockingly depressing you can't run basic pc functions on a steam deck

[marsh rose]

I was saying that playing through my steam library is much easier than using heroic on deck

[dense violet]

can't you just run a windows emulator? or a have another operating system installed on the side?

[tepid brook]

how do splitters divide numbers not divisible by 3? say if i have an input of 50 how will it divde the 3 outputs?

[dense violet]

they will evenly divide by output if possible

[dense violet]

it would be 50/3

[tepid brook]

hmmm. im trying to turn that 50 into 5 lanes of 10 and its not coming out as i would like it to lol

[marsh rose]

Proton, which is based on W.I.N.E. (Wine Is Not an Emulator) which I belive is what your referring too, and both heroic launcher and steam use that. (Valve made Proton.)

[dense violet]

split it into 3 and merge 2 of the belts

[unkempt blade]

Satis is definitely good value for me at $30 but personally I wouldn't want to do it on the small screen/controller inputs so I think it's mostly about your preferences

[dense violet]

No I mean just having another actual windows opperating system installed that you can swap to

[marsh rose]

I have windows on a seperate SSD but I switched away from windows because it's garbage, I don't want to constantly switch back and forth for 1 game xD

[dense violet]

decide if that's worth 30$ to you or not.
I can't tell you that for you

[dense violet]

also, apart from that solution , you could jsut split the 50 parts per min on 2 belts and it'll self balance

[unkempt blade]

yeah but can you tell me what takeout I should get for dinner?

[marsh rose]

Yeah I'm prob not gonna rebuy it, if I had known down the line I'd lose my save when using epic I would just have bought it on steam haha

[sick falcon]

thats why my pioneer is pink, for the competitive advantage :3

[tepid brook]

Thanks, Ill try that

[dense violet]

dumplings

they are the most cartlike

[peak vortex]

Hey guys! Is there a emailadres or sth with suggestions for the game? I've a few small adjustments i'd like to let them know. With one of my favourites being able to mantle over objects which increases momentum and how fluent movement feels.

[dense violet]

#faq

[marsh rose]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[peak vortex]

Awesome. Thanks!

[real shale]

aaaaa

[real shale]

#screenshots message finally its done

[honest summit]

i made a factory that produces 4000 iron per minute is the like best way to transfer it through trains? i never used them before

[supple canopy]

depends on where you want to send it to

if you have tons of fuel available you can even use drones

[honest summit]

when do i unlock drones?

im on phase 2 right now

[spare prism]

hi

[supple canopy]

ah yea nevermind, it's in tier 7 I think. But point is you can use whatever suits you

[honest summit]

ah alr thanks

[keen flame]

hello chat

[keen flame]

8 i believe

[keen flame]

i guess

[supple canopy]

correct, thanks

[wild mesa]

Starting my first game on 1.2 experimental... wish me luck 😄

[lilac root]

Is there a way to turn off and on the UI?

[wild mesa]

Not that I'm aware of. I do know there is a mod that will let you do that and move the pieces of the UI around.

[real shale]

THE MOON

[lilac root]

Ah. I was wondering if it glitched or someething is missing.

[wild mesa]

I know the build components can be a pain for me when building pipeline pumps.

[unkempt blade]

there's picture mode 🙂

[wild phoenix]

How do I pin shit to my hotbar?

[next ivy]

blueprints ?
i think just hover over one and press a number

same for anything else

[wise junco]

yurp

[wild phoenix]

Ah

Alr

[lilac root]

Had to verify the game files. Glitch

[unkempt blade]

picture mode won't fix that 🙁

[wild phoenix]

@past dune how did you get it underground?

[past dune]

2 ways..

you can build a hypertube that brings you underground..

or easy way.. use no clip and fly trough

[pure condor]

I just now realized that there is a trash bin in my inventory

[past dune]

my entire world.. is hidden belts and hidden wires

[lilac root]

I though you can also ride trains to underground

[wild phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-hmmm-thinking-one-second-let-me-think-gif-15838250914742163450

Damn embed fail

[wise junco]

so, is there a way to get signals to work better at "dividing" segments at junction points or am i just SOL?

[tropic juniper]

1.2 lookin kick ass. should i jump on experimental or is it better to wait for official release?

[grim carbon]

i've come a long way in this game, in fact i'm at phase 4, and i haven't automated anything

[grim carbon]

when is the official release?

[wooden leaf]

Hey uh question, what resources are in which Resource Node Randomization(plz either ping or reply)

[past dune]

i've automated 9.73 Terawatts 🙂

[honest summit]

for the train stops and stuff is that in phase 3 or can i get it in phase 2?

[tropic juniper]

not announced

[grim carbon]

too bad

[real shale]

What do you mean

[wise junco]

i'll answer in #design-and-architecture

[past dune]

I heard building them slighlty before helps.

[grim carbon]

i'd like to see how you did that

[past dune]

#screenshots message

#screenshots message

[grim carbon]

that has to be nuclear power, right?

[past dune]

all types

[real shale]

More rocket fuel than nuclear

[grim carbon]

not biomass burners i hope

oh right

[past dune]

geo, coal, fuel, rocket fuel, turbo fuel, uranium, plutonium, ficsonium, alien power matrices.

[real shale]

Nuclear is only about like 1.3 TW total or something along those lines

[past dune]

#screenshots message

#screenshots message

[real shale]

Rocket fuel is alot crazier

[grim carbon]

sounds delicious

[wild phoenix]

I have a bit of a problem

My boimass burners are going thru one biomass packet in like half a second

[grim carbon]

it all looks very impressive

[next ivy]

they wouldnt if whatever theyre burning had more fuel value

[wild phoenix]

Hey I wonder how many leaves I can burn a second in one biomass burner

[grim carbon]

how far along are you in the game?

[next ivy]

more than you can feed it

[grim carbon]

sounds like you just started

[next ivy]

with the highest tier belts

[wild phoenix]

Well Control click

Puts a 500 stack

[past dune]

#screenshots message

the radiated motherboard.. 🙂

[grim carbon]

are you in the desert?

those screenshots are beautiful!

[past dune]

im everywhere

[grim carbon]

oh

so you've explored the whole map?

[past dune]

look at this scim map

#screenshots message

[next ivy]

put an arachnophobia warning on that

[past dune]

Game is technically full vanilla mode.. no permanent cheats or mods, game must work without mods..

cheat used:

creative mode.(dont spend to build things)
fly everywhere and no clip mode
no fuel

this on and off took me years..

[grim carbon]

how many game hours?

[past dune]

hard to say... i copied original save into a blueprint and started with new game name twice now in 5 years

between 1 and 3000 hours

[grim carbon]

how did you access creative mode?

[grim carbon]

very funny

[past dune]

meant 1000 and 3000

current save. with my blueprint save file are a combo of over 1100 hours

but that doesnt count the 2 previous versions, where might have 300-2000 hours that i turned into an entire world blueprint, and started over..

[grim carbon]

i don't see how that's even possible

[past dune]

1 time my game was weirdly bugged.. couldnt do otherwise...

other time when trying to fix drone freezing problem.. which still an issue today

[grim carbon]

im not calling you a liar or anything

[past dune]

whats not possible?

[grim carbon]

the entire world blueprint

[past dune]

first.. all wires, all belts between building, is a total spaghetti mess, but underground...

completly hidden

[grim carbon]

how did you do so much underground?

i don't know how to do that

[past dune]

fly with no clip mode

[grim carbon]

you can fly underground?

[past dune]

you can also activate creative mode, in either SCIM map interface or using easy cheat mod

[grim carbon]

i have mods, but no cheat mods

[past dune]

even without mods you can yes

[grim carbon]

i see

you access creative through the advanced options?

[plucky bone]

What would be a good site for mods? I just started about 150 hrs in.

[past dune]

i dont use any mods, that require the mod to stay active for the world to work...

[grim carbon]

satisfactory mod manager

[plucky bone]

👍 Thanks

[past dune]

https://ficsit.app/mods?p=0

https://discord.gg/5tTukDmk

[plucky bone]

Wanna run through vanilla first though.

[grim carbon]

yeah, try without any mods, see how far you can get

[past dune]

mods dont have to stop your vanilla run... they can simply enhance it if you choose wisely.

[plucky bone]

Up to tier 6 all researched. Have just the space elevator parts now.

True but I wanna go vanilla at least once through. I play MC as well and mods ruined some of it for me.

[past dune]

@grim carbon

also. I have a lot of SCIM blueprints, that I've repeated often, building my huge world manually.. would be nuts.. decades

[grim carbon]

i played MC a few years ago, submitted some builds, nothing fantastic cos i'm neither creative or very good at building stuff

[past dune]

my last building is my mega fuel tower. I built it in a smaller world, less lag, then BP copied into main world.. that BP is over 5 megs.. just 1 building is bigger than some peoples save 🙂

[grim carbon]

sounds totally awesome

[past dune]

this is a quick showdown of the building's evolution..

#screenshots message

about a 40+ hour project..

[honest summit]

can train go through the ground if the rail is or will it go crash

[wise junco]

it will be fine

[honest summit]

thx

[supple canopy]

Can you actually land in the red zone here? #screenshots message
That would SUCK

[supple canopy]

sick. I would never have the courage to try and build on an angled building. Everytime I tried everything ended up not aligning correctly

[pure condor]

how late into the game are portals

[dense violet]

very end

[dense violet]

but also the milestones and phases are basically a tutorial, so also the very start in a lot of ways

[pure condor]

the dimensional depot is so cool wow

last time I played it wasnt in the game

[supple canopy]

absolute game changer
you do need multiple of them for stuff like concrete iron plates and plastic when mass building foundations

steel beam is also one you can easily run out of with blueprints

[pure condor]

im so excited to get this upgraded it looks so cool

[supple canopy]

it makes cool noises too

like WOOOOOOOMB PSIUUU PSIUUU

I wish mercer and somer based buildings talked like in their natural state

[pure condor]

the sound is quite funny

[pure condor]

what do the somer buildings do I only have the mercer ones cause I cant get circuit boards yet

[supple canopy]

ah I don't wanna spoil it for you unless you're fine with it

[pure condor]

I dont mind

[supple canopy]

putting somersloops in machine straight up doubles production (quadruples power consumption) with no downside on items needed

and the power augmenter (needs 10 somersloops) produces 500MW and adds 10% of your power

30% if you feed it with very late game item with very power hungry machines

and lo and behold, putting somersloops in machines makes them do funny belching noises

[pure condor]

oh thats so cool

phase 2 of the space elevator is going to take so long brahhhh

[wise junco]

but wait, there's more

[flat lion]

Can anyone help me please https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1485464121532223628

[feral vector]

what do i feed the doggos?

[wise junco]

paleberries

[feral vector]

ty

hmm you just hold it in your hand then pet them? it ran away lol

[wild mesa]

drop the berrries on the ground

sometimes they'll still run

just keep trying

[grim carbon]

what would cause my power grid to keep shutting down when i don't use anywhere near what it says i can produce?

it dropped from over 3200 to just 750mw

[wise junco]

could be lack of fuel running the grid

[supple canopy]

there's a trick where you put a nobelisk next to the paleberry and with you spam right click as he eats he can't run away

[grim carbon]

fuel is good

[native stream]

could someone help me understand how i can setup a closed system and keep regenerating plastic? would i need the rubber alt recipe?

[honest summit]

i have a train that picks up concrete and its like fully full always so can i use the same track for something else if the first freight platform is designed only for concrete like will the train output to the freight platform behidn it?

[wise junco]

if your produced mw is dropping, something is starving on the generation line

[feral vector]

ty

[fickle locust]

When you say "it dropped from 3200 to 750" that means power buildings went offline. Which means fuel is not good (could be oil fuel, could be coal, depends what you have)

[grim carbon]

i have both

[supple canopy]

either what was said or you deleted a power line and you have isolated 2450 MW

[grim carbon]

my oil has stopped altogether

[pallid gazelle]

Help, i need do move my friend beacause i need to do things there but i cant, he is alr sleep

[grim carbon]

i tried loading previous saves from the same folder

[wise junco]

kill him

[grim carbon]

every time it drops quickly

[fickle locust]

If your oil has stopped there's a problem with the oil setup

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 because something is wrong but it's hard to guess what

[grim carbon]

should i hook up a biomass burner to fire it up again?

[wise junco]

you can, but something is wrong with the setup causing it to fall dead

[supple canopy]

also, when power trips, when you try to turn the power back on, ALL connected machines will momentarily go full power even if idle or underclock

[grim carbon]

i tried that too

[honest summit]

anyone know?

[supple canopy]

yes you need to kickstart it

[fickle locust]

The train can only output to the platform it arrives at, based on position relative to the engine. The first train car can only unload at the first platform behind a station.

[supple canopy]

if the future it is primordial that you put a priority power switch with power production line set on priority one and everything else lower

[wise junco]

really not sure what you're trying to ask

[grim carbon]

what?

[honest summit]

like the first freight platform is always full of concrete (it comes in as fast as it leaves so there is no space for other items) how can i get around that do i need multiple train stations

[next ivy]

you can just add a second platform and wagon

or a second station, sure

[fickle locust]

Yes you'd need more stations or more platforms, depending on what makes more sense

[honest summit]

ah alr thanks

[supple canopy]

dunno if it's me you whatted but https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Priority_Power_Switch

[crystal cedar]

How many containary Bois can I stick on an engine before it dies(trains)

[fickle locust]

It won't die but 4 cars to 1 engine is the maximum to still be able to go up reasonable steepness ramps

[crystal cedar]

Alr thx

[warm finch]

@west jackal loves to run out of steel beams constantly

[supple canopy]

don't we all, considering the throughput of that thing

[grim carbon]

i don't have that switch

[feral vector]

hmmm so I have a truck bringing coal, it's working good but I'm only taking 180 coal/min out of the container so it's piling up since the miner is making 240/min... should I just split the extra off to a sink? or underclock it or something?

[supple canopy]

yea underclock it

[grim carbon]

i don't know what to do

should i scrap that whole lot and start again?

[feral vector]

or just use a second truck station and let it get full? I think the only problem is that if it's full I can't get the truck to stop on the way and grab limestone

[wise junco]

step by step, review each step of your oil setup and see what is starving

[supple canopy]

it's not a big deal unless your truck is picking up something else along the route

[fickle locust]

This isn't really a problem you need to solve--you can do stuff with the extra coal if you want but it can also just be like that

[fickle locust]

Make a #1038092680493801533 so you can post screenshots. We can help but only if we know what's going on

[wise junco]

your fuel generators shut down. why? because they have no fuel. why? because the refineries aren't putting out enough fuel. why?

[feral vector]

yeah you guys are right I didn't finish explaining my bad. I was gonna let that truck pick up copper and limestone on the way and split it up with smart splitters

[supple canopy]

no, disconnect your power production from the rest, troubleshoot your setup, and kickstart it with biomass burners

[fickle locust]

I would do a separate truck for this. Mixing the materials tends to run a risk of oversaturating or undersaturating and messing up the factory flow

[feral vector]

I know it's best to do one truck for one resource but I can take 540/min out of the truck station and I'm only inputting 240/min so an extra 60 copper and 60 limestone seems like a non issue

[feral vector]

alright if it goes screwy I'll set up a seperate truck or just use a belt

I just happened to have the truck route go right past two resources I happen to need lol figured I'd try it

[fickle locust]

Do you have smart splitters? If you have smart splitters you can do a multi-layered sort and have the excess sent to a sink

[feral vector]

yep, just unlocked them, I was gonna try that

[fickle locust]

Or this does explain your earlier question, underclocking would also be a perfectly sensible solution here

[supple canopy]

if what you pickup is the exact throughput needed you can do a sorting setup with buffers at the drop off station with smart splitters

[feral vector]

I might as well try a sink instead of underclocking? I haven't really used them yet

I was just tryign to automate a bunch of stuff before I reorganized my factory and set up a sushi line that smart sorts into storage containers and then splits the excess into another sushi line for a sink

[supple canopy]

make a buffer after the smart splitter that will send excess in the sink. If you use a too high mk belt you will sink too much

[feral vector]

not sure how that will go lmao I am absolutely awful at figuring out how to get belts organized, I made a 6 stacked monstrosity

[feral vector]

alright I'll try that ty

[west jackal]

I feel personally attacked

I have something like 80 thousand painted beams and 90km of train tracks? I ran out of beams CONSTANTLY lol

[grim carbon]

i don't know what i'm doing wrong

i've connected 5 biomass burners together, and put solid biomass in each one

[feral vector]

I think I'm just going to underclock lol I already did a bunch of stupid stuff with splitters to get 180 coal/min out of the truck station and split it into 45 * 4 for four foundries

[grim carbon]

when i connect them via power pole mk2 to the oil extractor and put a power shard in it, set it to 300m3 it blows the fuse

[fickle locust]

For the third time make a #1038092680493801533

[grim carbon]

i'm sorry i will

ok, posted

but i've only said there what i've said here

but with pictures of both oil and coal setups

[teal crater]

Hey anyone know why my rifle ammo has RA on it?

Nevermind I just realized

Yeah it’s turned off

[real salmon]

discord stuff gets serious man 😢

[fickle locust]

I just want to help! And for that I need information

[royal folio]

is my game tweaking the fuck out or did they reduce the stack size of plastic and rubber to 100 (pc 1.2 experimental)

its def my game the stack size of quickwire mysteriously got reduced to 100 as well

[honest summit]

if i have an item i dont want what is a way to dispose of it

like getting produced in my factory over and over

[restive snow]

AWESOME sink

[royal folio]

praying it fixes itself when i restart the game cause if it doesn't it will be very mildly annoying

[honest summit]

genius

[royal folio]

okay it uncooked itself

it actually would have fucked over my high speed connector setup if it didn't fix itself cause it takes 56 quickwire to make one so it would have to refill a little bit every time and lock it at 80% efficiency

[smoky flame]

Does anyone know if there's a trick with vertical nudge and nudge moving the same direction but it's only because the item is at 45 degrees angle and it just doesn't work

[paper dagger]

did anyone elses servers restart?

[dense violet]

because it's moving at an angle because of that?

[smoky flame]

Yes

[dense violet]

gotta plan around it. place it so the angled nudge gets to where you need it to
or build a flat section where you can nudge it in place, and use that to build the diaganol part there w/o nudge

[random haven]

Jesus christ my starting area is a mess lmao.

[fiery pewter]

Whose isn't lmao

[atomic geyser]

I just put the silica recipe into a constructor for the first time. 56.25 and 93.75 a minute is a DISGUSTING number for the 250% overclock

[fiery pewter]

Quartz recipes are the recipes with disgusting numbers imo

[hollow hemlock]

so back it down to a nicer value, no one forces you to go full power

[rain wedge]

how to get into uranium source at 380,924

[pale cedar]

Hello—quick question: can four coal generators be supplied by a single Water Extractor, or what would be the ideal ratio?

[atomic geyser]

but ✨ optimization✨

[fiery pewter]

Is that the one near the swamp behind the waterfall?

[rain wedge]

yeap

[fiery pewter]

1 extractor>3 generators

[rain wedge]

imo i run 1 : 1 but i think 1 is not enough for 4 gens

[pale cedar]

cool cool cool

[hollow hemlock]

optimization would be to make a bazillion of the production buildings all running at 1% so you could minimize power usage :p

[fiery pewter]

Well its behind the waterfall. Might have to blow up a rock to get through, and prepare to meet your eight-legged friends

[fiery pewter]

Nonononono, you can do that better. You minimize power usage by handcrafting everything xD

[fiery pewter]

And the air is spicy in there

[rain wedge]

wait wait not the swamp one , its almost located at the middle of the map but slightly lower

[fiery pewter]

So the middle of the Red Forest?

Hollup

[rain wedge]

yeah (man i forgot the biome bcus i nuked majority of the trees)

@fiery pewter thx 🙂

[fiery pewter]

Yw :3

[reef basin]

It's number as any else.

[swift turret]

I just realized the fluid trucks are great in the desert, I can grab some water and move it to a landlocked area and use the pure recipes

[undone citrus]

Due to self imposed restrictions I've had like no copper... But I found a node I'm allowed to use. 750 → 8000/min

True heaven

After I build it......

[dense violet]

@fiery pewter change the time frame to per 100 minutes and it becomes 5625 and 9375
'disgusting numbers' are entirely in your brain

[undone citrus]

Just build in multiples of 4 with your machines

Becomes 225/min and 375/min

If that's an option anyways

[fiery pewter]

@pallid umbra #screenshots message
So I know there are 2 entrances, I just didn't know where the other one was

[pallid umbra]

kk np

[fiery pewter]

there are so many things in my brain

[west jackal]

if a train takes about 4 minutes round trip, should i have 2 trains to get 1200/min on single car?

[reef basin]

I'd just put each belt into one car and add enough trains to have enough throughput

[west jackal]

Im not sure how to actually tell throughput being have single belt into isc and then double belt between isc and freight station to more quickly buffer the station

[stray crown]

guys i have a problem, i finished tear 2, and all milestone done, but my tear 3 is not open why?

[reef basin]

doesn't the game tell you in top right? 🤔

(also it's "tier", not "tear")

[stray crown]

oh yeah mb

but still it doesnt bro

[dense violet]

figure out how much your train car can carry of said item - stack size is important for this
find out the return trip time
if the trip time is longer than how long the car takes to fill, you'll need more trains or cars

[stray crown]

i wish i could send ss but i did everything it just blank

[dense violet]

a ss could still help

[reef basin]

you don't really want to optimise for the max possible throughput anyway. Delays can happen, better to have excess

[stray crown]

like tier 2 is done, but tier 3 is not unlocked

[reef basin]

have you built space elevator?

[stray crown]

i jus joined server for this prob i dont think i have perms i cant send for smreason

[stray crown]

no... oh is that the reason?

[dense violet]

this is one of the few channels that doesn't allow images 🙂
and yeah space elevator

[reef basin]

this channel doesn't allow screenshots
there's #1038092680493801533, #math-and-meta and #design-and-architecture that allow that

[stray crown]

oh ok thankyouu il send it there right away

[west jackal]

Not sure i understand, in my head, with the system I described, the isc fills at 1200/min, the train station uploads isc into station at 2400/min. The train can hold more than 20 stacks so it should need a second train when I have 1200 input for each car

[reef basin]

tiers don't unlock by completing previous tiers. They are not even a requirement for next tiers

[stray crown]

huh?

then how does it work?

[reef basin]

the station uploads at 2400/min at most
but not on average

[reef basin]

well I could spoil it, or you can go ahead and build the building I've mentioned (and game/ADA probably told you to do so)

[sand jolt]

Huh. Minor problem here, but I just bought the Cyberwagon and didn't get Ada commenting on it. Went to build it but 'tis not showing in the build list. This a known issue w/1.1?

[dense violet]

come to #math-and-meta we'll sort it out

[stray crown]

yeah it says build it but, its a lot of resoureces and its my first time playing so i just uk, kinda pused it along till now lol

[reef basin]

I mean then you can't really progress further 🙂

[stray crown]

yeah aight, thx for helping man

great help for real

[pale cedar]

it allow me to have 4

[pure condor]

lets go I finished phase 2

[reef basin]

I mean you can have 1500 to 1 extractor

but you won't have enough water 🙂

1 extractor can feed slightly less than 3 gens

[pure condor]

I was instantly able to unlock oil production cos im a pro

[pale cedar]

true

[dense violet]

pls don't spam every chanel

[reef basin]

why spam channels?

you are tho? posting irrelevant gifs in at least two channels

ok it's actually more than that

[dense violet]

3 including this one

yeah more you're right

[reef basin]

sf-ex, design, and dedi servers were also hit, so at least 5

I'd recommend to delete 😉

delete the spam messages

[fiery pewter]

Something something might be banned

[reef basin]

spamming literally every channel with unrelated gif is

only relevant channel would be #satisfactory-memes

[fiery pewter]

-# I am not looking at Maximus's pronouns section

[reef basin]

look at mine instead

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

[fiery pewter]

Fkn ♻️ that

[reef basin]

yeah, you spamming the server

[fiery pewter]

-# something cringe

[reef basin]

you can't spam the server and then say "no" like if it was all ok

[fiery pewter]

The only channels that weren't hit are the thread channels and #off-topic-general

[dense violet]

just block the tween, life will be better

[fiery pewter]

And #off-topic-tech

[fiery pewter]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[reef basin]

yeah the offtopic section that would be best for such content wasn't hit 🙃

[dense violet]

more like ancient problems getting modern solutions 😛 couldn't mute idiots you were around before

[fiery pewter]

You could

[dense violet]

ok, legally.

[fiery pewter]

-# by either killing them or cutting their tongue out

[fiery pewter]

Indeed

[fiery pewter]

For legal reasons this is a joke

[fiery pewter]

But #off-topic-media was hit

Anywayzerz

I should play again soon

[fiery pewter]

Lmao he went for the channels after I named them

[reef basin]

well, it is I guess

[austere marlin]

Hey, on the wiki it is said that blueprints are in
%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\blueprints{SESSION NAME}
But on my PC there is no "saved" folder ? Am I missing something ?

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 thread and show contents of the FactoryGame folder in screenshot

[austere marlin]

sure

[spice patio]

Not under game install directory.
Copypaste that without that sessionname part into file explorer.

That first part is macro to under your windows profile, into hidden folder.

[austere marlin]

Oh right I found it thank you !!

[visual parrot]

whos tryna start a new save

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[silent burrow]

Do you think that maybe the Devs could some years down the line add a more PvE experience? Like trains need a automated gun car to protect themselves from the environment, turrents on buildings, things like that. It could be a mode that's turned off of course for those who want to keep enjoying the casual building experience. Minecraft added more enemies over time to make it more engaging that way and all for example. idk I just throught it would be cool.

[reef basin]

they are not adding base defence
not like there's much to defend from, since fauna doesn't damage buildings

[silent burrow]

not right now, but if they added more enemies and all...

[reef basin]

they said like 100 times they are not adding it

[silent burrow]

bummer

[reef basin]

it's not that type of a game. Go play a different game if you want base defence 🙂

[real shale]

starrupture/factorio is more the game for that

[silent burrow]

yeah but there's not as well made animated game like satisfactory that does what it does haha.
I'm just saying! If they have been asked 100 times then maaaaaaybe it would be cool to add it...

[silent burrow]

yeah I saw those, I didn't really care for them

[reef basin]

they have already made a base defence game before. They did not want to make another one

[silent burrow]

I see.... sadness 🙁

[reef basin]

tbf factorio is great

[silent burrow]

I hate the style haha. It just looks like visual barf to me when I look at these screenshots of gameplay lol

[reef basin]

I mean fair, but it's really great game 🙂 and I love the visuals personally 🤷

[silent burrow]

I'm glad you enjoy it, I was not a fan 😛

[proud escarp]

if i have 4 conveyors merging into 2 and then going into 2 assemblers can i instead merge the conveyors from 4-2-1 then split them before the 2 assemblers?

[reef basin]

did you try the demo? and recently, or a lot of time back?

[silent burrow]

the demo of factorio? I wasn't interested in how it looked in the first place so no

[real shale]

anyone elses notes not working properly? I've had my notes alternate between two different versions of notes

so weird booting up the game and i have the todo list i set like.....days ago

[warm remnant]

does some "breakable rocks" require stronger nobelisks? if yeswhich one

[vagrant oar]

pretty sure the only thing nobelisks differ with is the area they explode in, not strength

so no there is no stronger rocks

[warm remnant]

i thrown a lot of nobelisk on some cave entrences not even a dent

[past dune]

How do you clear rocks, vegetation and wildlife

1. I'm a pacifist, I run away and never hurt Trees.

2. I use a chainsaw and sometimes try and recreate texas chainsaw masacre

3. Nuke em!, Let's nuke the bastards!

[hard ivy]

All breakable rocks can be blown up with any explosive

But there are some plants that don't work with explosive rebar and need an actual nobelisk

[vagrant oar]

then it's not breakable

[warm remnant]

ups i cant post here

here, i guess i should ask in experimental XD

maybe its a change

ok worked, maybe gas obelisk are weaker spammed more

[hard ivy]

Gas nobelisks aren't explosives XD

[warm remnant]

oh dindt know never made them used them as explosives\

got them from drive site

[hard ivy]

Regular nobs, clusters, nukes, and explosive rebar definitely work

Not sure about pulse

[keen flame]

hello chat

[keen flame]

99% of pioneers quit before they break the rock

keep going

[warm remnant]

used wrong nobelisk found random sulfur node and crafted normal ones on a go

[keen flame]

oh yes if you used gas nobelisk that doesnt actually blow things up iirc

the effect is just an effect

[past torrent]

YOU C AN MAKE ALL ORES PURE IN 1.2?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

someone please tell me that the advanced resource rich boost is insane

gg i gotta make a new playthrough

[earnest dock]

Is there a way to move the save game path ?

[pine lark]

Here suggestion to discuss: Platform Console, Pc either one of them must choose also one of the regions before making a post. Additional information for example post should be pinned in lfg channel: Space Elevator Deliverable Cost Multiplier (Space Elevator CM as shortage), Recipe Parts CM, Power CM, Resource Node Randomization and Purity all of these has these in right side of them: (must) (debatable) so for each one post creator types either must or debatable so people can know.

[wintry wyvern]

what happens when u die in game

[earnest dock]

Some will change shifts with you

[broken valve]

Hello, if im switching to beta, is my old save compatible ? Do i need to redo my trucks routes ?

[earnest dock]

With Community Onboarding new users will be able to choose roles ( pc dweller or console maniac) and will be able to see LFG for that + some extra roles depending on the answers

[alpine frigate]

you sure need to backup your save first ❤️

[broken valve]

All right thanks !

[vagrant oar]

afaik, you can make a ticket in #open-a-ticket to bring it up to mods directly

tho I feel like platform roles aren't really needed

if you feel like sharing your platform, you can just put it in your server side display name

[earnest dock]

Is the game cross platform?

[vagrant oar]

afaik yes, but you need to have a linked epic games account for it

[earnest dock]

Its like 5 min works for discord mods )

[pine lark]

I did already. There are too much options to choose from now with game modes. Since alot of players lf spesific modes this helps alot.

[vagrant oar]

just because something takes a short amount of time, doesn't mean it's a necessary addition; and frankly, this is coming from someone who supports platform roles in other servers, we just struggle to see a reason to add them. LFG tags for platforms WOULD be nice, but I feel like roles are sorta excessive, especially since from what I've seen, the mods are going for minimalism, and reserve roles for pings and functions

[pine lark]

What I mean game modes as not in tags but inside post.

I'll make example post so if people see in lfg pinned example post it would be easier to find a gane with certain modes

[vagrant oar]

just like it takes 5 minutes to add roles, it takes 1 minute for you to put [PC], [Xbox] or [PS5] in your displayname :p

[earnest dock]

Or like a mandatory tag for a forum post
So you can filter

[vagrant oar]

speaking of, we should probably do that

[dense violet]

maybe sketch what you mean in #math-and-meta

[dense violet]

why? you can't use all the world's resources anyway, not without your computer catching fire

[alpine frigate]

you can do this too, less cool but close enouth temporaly ? 🙂

[past torrent]

i have a ferrari computer dont worry about that

[dense violet]

even if you spent 10,000$ , had double graphics card, your computer would be seconds per frame before you got there

[past dune]

my mega power save is now over 47 megs

[past torrent]

nope :)

[past dune]

it is laggy

[past torrent]

i used all uranium last playthrough and i was still running the game completely f ine on my last pc

just w ant to be able to use plutonium this time around, and the extra sam will allow that

[vagrant oar]

wouldn't you just hit UE's object limit at a certain point

[mortal ginkgo]

from what I heard there is way too much uranium nodes added in. I mean 1 or 2 pure is cool but 30+? Feels meh.

[past torrent]

that can be removed

had to do that last time

[earnest dock]

MSI afterburner can make your GPU use active fans so it doesn't go sad

[mortal ginkgo]

just dont over ultra decorate especially in places where you won't ever visit and it will be fine

[past torrent]

i like to use the machines as decorations, huge insanely compact blocks with belts perfectly intertwined make me very happy

[dense violet]

you can edit files so that changes some things - even before they basically doubled the resources on the map , added another processing tier there were vids of people with like 100 nuclear pasta being processed and it was unplayable. That wasn't even all the resources on the map either

now they've made some serious optimisations but they also dramatically increased the resources and amount of processing per resource

[normal orbit]

it doesnt render past a certain distance, so not really a huge issue. when i approach my huge fuel ring there like a small dip in framerate as it turns on all the 200.000-ish signs, but after that its normal

[mortal ginkgo]

very cool, I also heard that decorating around impure limestone nodes do not increase object limit, 100% legit. I suggest making altars around them #ultrazerobias

[vagrant oar]

mildly off-topic but playing satis and staring off into the horizon has motivated me to start a suggestion/feature request-styled writing project,

time to write another detailed, 8000 words long suggestion, that there's no chance in hell will be added 🔥

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

make a mod instead

[vagrant oar]

perhaps one day, modding isn't my strong suit

[dense violet]

they have mod helper channel and content to help people get started

[vagrant oar]

I can write and come up with ideas, but actually modding is smth I'm yet to start (#ADHD)

[tranquil hemlock]

I'm about to start a new save, and I'm setting up some blueprints to carry over to it. And I'm looking at these like; "Can I really fit all of this into this single floor?"
Trying to look through to find the mistake that's going to have to make it a 2 story, because surely there's an error somewhere

[dense violet]

just make it into 2 bps if it's a hassle

[tranquil hemlock]

I'm also trying to avoid using Satisfactory Tools. As great as it is, I'm having a go at figuring things out without it

[dense violet]

I mean all it does is like grade 3 maths for you. A lot of it

and if you want to see how 1 different recipe affects a chain you have to redo the whole thing

[tranquil hemlock]

True XD

[jaunty jewel]

one part*

maybe two or three depending what youre making

[reef basin]

Not sure if linear optimisation is grade 3 math 🤔

[broken valve]

Hello, im trying to test the new demo but i cant move forward for some reason ? My Z key works fine, imputs are registered both ingame out outside of the game (when i type in a sign for example) but i cant move forward. I tried to change key binding, and then revert the change but it didnt work

[dense violet]

only if you let it choose between recipes, otherwise a recipe chain followed backwards is very basic maths

[fiery pewter]

Pressing W doesn't work?

And wth do you need Z for

[broken valve]

no

Im european, its not a qwerty computer, its azerty

[alpine frigate]

szitch to QWERTY or bind ² it work

[fiery pewter]

I say go to #1038092680493801533 , and even then this is more of a #satisfactory-experimental thing

[broken valve]

ok

[fiery pewter]

I'm European too and use QWERTY

[real shale]

okay 60 EMCR/min automated, time to do the versatile framework

[alpine frigate]

yes just a french thing, as we don't use W that mutch 🙂

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[normal orbit]

Azerty is only used in like two european countries, france and belgium. you can see them in some other countries where french is used like luxemburg, canada

[fiery pewter]

Damn, Dyno sees Canada and goes ADA lmao

[vagrant oar]

I guess adamant too

oh it's just because it ends with ada??

[fiery pewter]

Addative

Or just has ada in it

[vagrant oar]

my discord lagged the hell out so it didn't do any reactions for a bit

[fiery pewter]

Where the hell did snutt donut come from Dyno?

[real shale]

pentadactylism

[keen flame]

hello again chat

hello nerdmojer

[vagrant oar]

o/

[alpine frigate]

blade runner unlocked

i can moove now

[reef basin]

Unless loops and byproducts

[winged crescent]

I want my vehicle tracks now 🥹🙏

Hello Chat btw

(I play on ps)

[dense violet]

even then it's basic. With alum solution you just take the total water for the process needed - the waste

[reef basin]

multiple products aren't that simple, because you can't always follow backwards

[dense violet]

examples? cause the closest I can think of is DMR things and I don't see why I can't follow it backwards fairly simply

[reef basin]

you get a byproduct in chain that makes A, and you can use that byproduct to make B

(B is also requested)

[dense violet]

that's .. fine? you do A and then include A's byproduct in B's plan working back

[reef basin]

but what if line for B also includes byproduct that can make A?

[dense violet]

you edit the incoming (by)product to inclue B's

[reef basin]

but you don't know how much byproduct you have for either 🤔

[dense violet]

if A needs B1 material and B products B1 as a byproduct you can then sort that out surely?

[reef basin]

simplified case:
recipe 1 makes 3A, with byproduct 1B
recipe 2 makes 3B, with byproduct 1A

you request 8A + 8B

[dense violet]

I think that may have been a bad example because you do 2 lots of each

[reef basin]

yeah, but how do you calculate that when working backwards?

if you go product by product, you start at A, see that you need 2.666x recipe 1, ...

(or 8x recipe B, but that's "more expensive" obviously)

[dense violet]

I think I'd have to see examples of which items/recipe combos because I manually fiddle with a lot of things even after tools and never had much of an issue

possibly double byproduct combos just aren't very as expected outputs like that

[reef basin]

well you never have this issue because Tools do the math for you 😛

[dense violet]

I do a lot of by hand break downs as well 😛
The closest example I can think of might be DMR stuff but I've done that by hand so maybe I wasn't using specific recipe combos?

[reef basin]

well the example was simplified a lot, but I've hit cases like these when I was first implementing the simplex solver

[dense violet]

now if almsot every production step from ore to finished products had byproducts ... that would be a chore

or even half the steps.

Step 7a has byproduct used by 3b, that makes byproduct for 2a that makes products for 1c and 2b ect ect

but all the SF stuff is pretty well contained within little loops

[low citrus]

Hi,
I want to set up a plastic/rubber factory with the packaged water setup but I'm having difficulty finding the scheme on the internet, I know it exists because I did it before but I can't find it.
Any help would be very welcome!
Thanks.

[normal orbit]

packaged water for plubber?

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=UXitUaJQF09zRnN0WlXy

[leaden turret]

new emote for when Jason says no golf:

[zenith pecan]

Routing all the uranium into one spot for this atm https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=VtjQDnT8X5IlWR9c8xAr

[low citrus]

Yes, but I suppose I should have said packaged fuel. It takes heavy oil and packaged water into packaged fuel.

[dense violet]

does the link make sense?

[low citrus]

I don't think it is what I need, I have other planners that I use. Unless there is something in there that im not seeing.

[dense violet]

it's a full layout of using oil to HOR to diluted fuel to make recycled plastic/rubber

literally all the information on what you need to do for it

[low citrus]

looked around and found what I needed, thank you very much!

[pine lark]

Example post can be made and pinned in lfg channel so people can use it easily here is example I made should be editable by the players in the pinned massage version:

Hello dear players we are aware of that new game modes gives a lot of option so we made an example for you to find players easier to match with your criteria you should delete the one (must) or (debatable) so people know which modes are must for you:

Space Elevator Deliverable Cost Multiplier: (must) (debatable)

Recipe Parts Cost Multiplier: (must) (debatable)

Power Consumption Multiplier: (must) (debatable)

Resource Node Randomization: (must) (debatable)

Resource Node Purity: (must) (debatable)

[swift turret]

#screenshots message All the pioneers are women tho :sus:

[reef basin]

that goes to #satisfactory-memes , is not a screenshot

[swift turret]

But did you know that no pinoneers are men

[reef basin]

yes, was confirmed by devs at release, so 7 years back

[swift turret]

ah I wasnt involved unitl update 5 even then I barely liked the game until update 8

[rain wedge]

man i hope they will add more SAM nodes 🙏

[swift turret]

probably not

[rain wedge]

add 3 pure nodes 🙂

[swift turret]

thats like 3600 extra sam

where would they put it

[reef basin]

can just customise it with the new settings

though not much reason to add more SAM tbh

[rain wedge]

eeh pros n cons tho , i dont want to rebuild whole thing 🤣

[swift turret]

honestly I wish the sam node next to the swamp and titans forest was pure

I gotta fight 3 giant spiders and billion hogs for a noemal bruh

[rain wedge]

n some stinky gas to 🤣

[swift turret]

no gas but there is radiation nearby

[rain wedge]

wait a min....whole the hell will put 5x for power consumption (1.2 experiment) 💀

[proven snow]

Masochists

I think coal power (and probably other sources too) would be a net negative power output

[normal orbit]

pain so close to pleasure :p

[normal orbit]

they're not, but they dont give a lot :p 8 coal gens is like +200mw

[ornate saffron]

Gives you a reason to built them TW+ builds

[normal orbit]

half the power alone (300mw) just goes to the extractors

you can do some underclocks to reduce it a bit, like building six at 50% instead of three saves like 60mw

[rain wedge]

i changed my mind gonna create a new world when 1.2 is done 🙂 (gonna put all node = pure 🙂 )

[ornate saffron]

Thats a lot of iron

[rain wedge]

erm into the sink it goes 🤣

[hard ivy]

All nodes pure, 2x resource cost, 5x power cost 😆

[reef basin]

100x space elevator cost

[proven snow]

The random nodes random purity is pretty fun

[rain wedge]

'World Seed
Shows the current world seed so you can share it with friends, currently other settings have to be manually matched on top of sharing the seed
Default world seed for a vanilla game is 0'

is there any diff for seed tho 🤔

[swift turret]

3000 hour game? :no: 300,000 hour game

[ornate saffron]

You can but the seed input doesnt work currently (i think)

[reef basin]

eh, it most definitely won't 100x the gameplay time

[proven snow]

yea, diff seeds = diff node types / purity

[rain wedge]

100x space cost , 100x recipe cost , 100x power consumption 🤣

[swift turret]

bros not making out of the biomass

although the bio coal recipe may actually be useful now

[reef basin]

it is useful

[swift turret]

nvm I misremembered what it did

thought it turned coal into biomass

[smoky flame]

There's something about stacking fuel generators on multiple floors just feels very unnatural, I think they're not made to be stacked unlike constructors, assemblers etc. thinking about redesigning my power station

[swift turret]

its the weight

[pine lark]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

It always has been good

[swift turret]

for what

[smoky flame]

and the smoke

[swift turret]

we have helmets on

[reef basin]

for turning biomass into coal

[swift turret]

would rather just turn it into biofuel

which can be used in biomass burners to unlock more hard drives

[reef basin]

don't really need good fuel for that

just any fuel does the trick

[swift turret]

can use a blueprint to have it start up while I fight off the 50 hogs who look like my ex girlfriend

[ornate saffron]

I use it for munitions. I don't see the point of dedicating any nodes to munitions as I rarely need them.

@pine lark

Have you thought about therapy. Self harm is not good

#screenshots message

[orchid radish]

Does anyone know if the randomized resource node option in experimental can by chance exclude certain resources? I’ve been on the hunt for sam ore and haven’t seen anything yet

[ornate saffron]

You are guaranteed at least one node.

[twin parcel]

need help , some stations dont show up when setting up vehicle pathing (all stations are powered) (1.2exp)

[ornate saffron]

It just maybe hiding lol

[ornate saffron]

The only time this has happened to me was when to lengths of track were not actually connected. I identified it only because it had a turning arrow where there was no turn.

[ornate saffron]

I would make a post in #1038092680493801533 as ot may need troubleshooting

[sour hare]

How's new vehicle pathing on experimental?

[ornate saffron]

Giga rad

[sour hare]

It looks more attractive than trains to me

As soon as fuel is figured out

[ornate saffron]

Coal

[twin parcel]

do universal path connects well with truck path?

[raw lotus]

Can I self-host a server so me and my friends can play together?

[ornate saffron]

Seems to. Ive only tinkered in creative mode

[hard ivy]

It's basically the same as trains

[reef basin]

eh, depends on situation where you use it. I don't think they are that much better now than they were

[ornate saffron]

Yes sir

[sour hare]

I meant fuel logistics

[reef basin]

throughput is basically the same as it was before

[ornate saffron]

They make them usable. I can't drive 😫

[raw lotus]

How ?

[reef basin]

that's why you have autopilot 😛

[ornate saffron]

Now game and use the multilayer options.

Or.

You can download the dedicated server software.

[ornate saffron]

Had to record the route before though. I got a friend to do it everytime lol

[hollow holly]

To be fair ive never used trucks that much might take a look soon tho

[twin parcel]

hmm does the truck stations needs to snap on the path or i can place it as long it touches the path?

[raw lotus]

Yes, but how does self-hosting work? Can I host this on a Linux server?

[sour hare]

Trains are cool, but tracks look terrible without foundations, and building it around the map drains all energy from me

[ornate saffron]

I'd ask for details in #dedicated-servers

[ornate saffron]

I like tracks on dirt personally. But taste is subjective.

[smoky flame]

Damn, I played 93.4 hours of satisfactory in the last 2 weeks, according to steam

[raw lotus]

Thx

[reef basin]

the truck will self-correct

[reef basin]

then don't build it around the map, build just what you need

[twin parcel]

blueprints exists

[hollow holly]

I mean sometime i just start playing to fix a minor thing then realize im 5 hour in lol

[sour hare]

I always build 2 parallel tracks and they don't look nice on dirt

[ornate saffron]

I generally do too. But when I hit dirt they diverge and meet back up. I flow with the land

[twin parcel]

rip , truck stations is buggy , the path is connected . hmm

[sour hare]

I didn't, but the moment I start building train tracks to connect 2 factories, concrete highways appear naturally )

[smoky flame]

I'm still not tier 4 yet and the reason is because I'm too busy designing blueprints, and detailing the most mundane part of the factory, I come from RCT and I can't just have bear bone factory

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> are u ready for time change i think next week for you peeps

[obsidian zodiac]

i was born ready leo

[abstract heron]

also hows 1.2 in the office will there be a patch

[void gorge]

i was conceived ready leo

[abstract heron]

and ik its not the right chanel for 1.2 stuff

[void gorge]

Patch today/maybe tomorrow, and next Monday/maybe Tuesday

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[void gorge]

./shrug

[abstract heron]

so now streams will be normal at 10am to 12pm and is there a video this Friday?

after This week

[void gorge]

Streams will still be 16:00 in Sweden whatever that equates to in the world next week

<t:1774278000:t> <-- this feature will save our asses surely

[jagged nymph]

10 am

[twin parcel]

bruh, i just had to replace my truck station again and the bug dissapper

[abstract heron]

also idk if this is true but i only saw 2 modes of the vechile path in 1.2 straghit and default

thats when i went in but idk if its true

[jagged nymph]

what i do know is if you have a curve and a curve + a straight all roads lead to rome means your road wont be straight

[real shale]

Plubber

[plush trellis]

Train can whistle?

[abstract heron]

Yes

[plush trellis]

Is it rare?

[abstract heron]

i say so

[keen flame]

what does the game sort the inventory based on

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/10qomq9/how_does_the_sort_button_work/

[green fiber]

Afaik every item gets a sorting Id or something in its data

[keen flame]

thanks

[green fiber]

How that index is assigned is up to the devs

[fluid sapphire]

seems pretty arbitrary

[green fiber]

It is

[ornate saffron]

@unborn gyro how goes your epic run

rock solid.

I do like me some solid steel

[whole robin]

In my efforts to avoid making screws by any means nessecary, i have accidentally made plans for a encased heavy modular frame factory that uses 918 steel pipes per minute thoughout the various steps of production.

[ornate saffron]

screws are not bad and avoiding them causes many issues like your pipe dream becoming a pipe nightmare

[eager tartan]

so about the experimental version: i have epic games launcher and not steam. there was once a separate experimental version of the game there. found it in my library but the icon is that of update 8. just wondering if that's outdated and experimental is only available on steam?

[ornate saffron]

chill when you have coal. then you dont need to hand feed anything lol

Are you able to help @eager tartan ?

[fluid sapphire]

looks like a pipe dream to me

[whole robin]

And it is going to take me exponentially longer than if i just bit the bullet and did it normally (it has already taken me over a week's worth of play sessions) but at least i can make 3/4 of the pipes i need from a single blueprint of machines im already using for motors as oppossed to using like half a floor for a single item

[eager tartan]

perfect, thanks!

[fluid sapphire]

how many frames?

[whole robin]

About 20

I am hoping to never have to make another HMF factory for the rest of the playthrough

[real shale]

Oh no you will

[fluid sapphire]

nah, 20 will easily be enough for a normal person

[fluid sapphire]

thats a lot of pipes though, i made a factory for 18 HMF with a lot less pipes
#screenshots message

[real shale]

normal? Am I playing satisfactory?

[ornate saffron]

that'll do as long as you figure out the logistics

[fluid sapphire]

ah, sure, well, 20 is already like a "hobby project" but of course for some people small scale

[ornate saffron]

im up to 13 HMF/min in various locations. im roughly just starting Phase 4

[real shale]

Feed 10 of those for fused modular frames, and then use 5 of those for conversion cubes

:P

"I wish the game would just do the work for me and complete itself"

[ornate saffron]

this is part of the reason i dont like moduler, It makes me feel like im doing it twice

[fluid sapphire]

well, thats easy, just write a script that plays the game for you

[real shale]

Or automate.....that also plays the game for you

[ornate saffron]

i prefer some raw numbers then build it in my mind as i play

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i mean, automate the automation

[real shale]

Truly autonomous factory........

[supple canopy]

bruh in phase 5 there's just too much to deal with to keep in my head. All this dark matter recycling...

[real shale]

Insane how goes your grassy fields industrial complex

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message
even phase 4 is already a pain

[fluid sapphire]

i havent actually been there for a while, still havent finished my swamp high speed connector facility, and i cant start my elevator parts factory at grass fields before thats done

[real shale]

I am doing my magnetic field generator factory there, just need the frameworks now

Which means rebuilding the steel plant AAAAAAAA

[ornate saffron]

i get that, I break it down into small chunks. Even early game i do this.

for example im working on Radio control units. i break it down into the 4 parts that are needed.

I worked out the logistics for the Oscillators and got all the materials to the build location for that. Then i needed rubber i didnt have any spare rubbe rso i made a Plubber facility and got the rubber to the build lacation and so on .

[real shale]

Also 10 stators/min into DD for fluid truck stations yummy

[ornate saffron]

@unborn gyro but tools or calculator can just tell you how many machines and the resources you need lol thats all i need

[real shale]

60 EMCRs is good too

[ornate saffron]

of Fluid stations need stators?

[real shale]

Yeah

Only buildable in the game that needs stators

[ornate saffron]

=

[real shale]

USBeefalo when USBeaver

[prime basin]

has anyone tried doing a thing where they bring all the resources from every node on the whole map together, so like all the iron on the entire map is funneled over there, while all the copper is funneled over here, and then like, have a main big area where anything that needs more than 1 type of ore is made?

[ornate saffron]

Ive never tasted beaver. Beefalo is yummy

[rough shore]

belts

[prime basin]

?

[rough shore]

yeah

[prime basin]

but wdym belts?

[green fiber]

You're not gonna be able to get much done after doing all the miners and transport of ore because your pc will just die

[prime basin]

skill issue?

[green fiber]

Better PC likely wont matter much

Either the PC or the game itself gives up

[rough shore]

just belts

[prime basin]

simple, just make a dedicated server and spread the load across several PCs

[prime basin]

im so confused

[sudden anvil]

Is there a standard design for getting a full pipe of water through a single fluid car? I both pipes going to a buffer each, and connected with a t-junction between them. but its big and ugly. And I need a lot of them.

[green fiber]

Ded server more like dead server

[ornate saffron]

this makes me happy, it always felt weird that stators where not used that much

[green fiber]

standard design is 1 pipe split into both ports of one buffer and then parallel to that into both station ports

[ornate saffron]

Dead Electronic Device DED

[prime basin]

lol

but like, are there not people who have factories that use all the nodes on the map?

[green fiber]

Some have factories that use all bauxite / SAM, uranium, whatever

But not ALL nodes afaik

Tapping all Limestone is already a big challenge lol

[ornate saffron]

@zenith pecan does this more or less

[green fiber]

Especially finding a use besides just dumping it

[rough shore]

sink points 🤷‍♂️

[ornate saffron]

In the not to distant distopia the Nvidia wants. Maybe we can crash there cloud gaming services with Satisfactory mega projects lol

[prime basin]

it would be cool if you could customize nodes so that all nodes of the same type are put together

[green fiber]

Thats what "dumping it" means

[zenith pecan]

My current project is to process all 2100 uranium in one spot around the middle of the map.

[rough shore]

yeah thats what i mean so it does have a use

[abstract girder]

Guys, I'm going to ask you a general question: what do you use trains, cars, or any other means of transportation for? For example, I plan to use trains to bring everything from my factories to the main warehouse. So, what do you do with other means of transportation?

[sterile blade]

I reckon that a good chunk of the people who tried making factories using up all ores have gone for the "all in one place" approach. Dunno how far they got though, I haven't kept up with such projects (I think some people managed to make factories using even more ores than aviable on map with mods, but I'm not certain)

[rough shore]

vehicles dont exist

[abstract girder]

I don't understand?

[whole robin]

Does instant scrap give the best ratio of bauxite to scrap?

[abstract girder]

how is there no

[white dawn]

All of the available logistics methods (belts/pipes, vehicles, trains, drones) are entirely viable -- you can build them out to support whatever throughput you need. They each have their strengths/weaknesses. IMO, use them all, as appropriate!

[reef basin]

that's easy to check with wiki 😛

[proven snow]

I hate belts, they're ugly and unfun to build with, despite being very easy

Love trucks, love trains. Trains definitely feel better, but I like playing with trucks too

[white dawn]

And thankfully you have plenty of opportunity throughout the game. Phase 2 gives you vehicles, Phase 3 gives you trains, and Phase 4 gives you drones. Lots of time to get used to them before learning the next!

[supple canopy]

anytime I tried anything even remotely like that I burnt out.
My first playthrough I decided I'd make 11k iron ingots and 7k copper ingots and I ended up never needing nearly as much, my work felt useless

[sterile blade]

You must be quite thrilled with the Experimental news, huh?

[white dawn]

And remember that the "later" ones don't obsolete the early ones. I'll still build the occasional tractor route even well into the lategame, if the situation's appropriate

[abstract girder]

So I use conveyor belts and pipes for everything, and when I start using trains, I'll use them for the purpose I mentioned, but other transportation systems confuse me a lot.

[supple canopy]

I'm making 450 packaged rocket fuel/min, so I'm slapping drones and trucks everywhere to use it

[white dawn]

There's a learning curve to all of them. You can certainly ignore any of 'em if you want -- it's essentially a sandbox, after all -- but IMO you're missing out if you're not giving 'em a go. :)

[rough shore]

they have the exact same usage as trains just different situations u just transport stuff

[supple canopy]

and I made a worldwide train track for higher throughput items

[abstract girder]

For me, it's the opposite, because all my factories are independent of each other, meaning they all have their own nodes. How could I possibly use trains and cars in such a small settlement?

[green fiber]

Dont you ever bring stuff somewhere over long distance?

[cunning glade]

hate how much coal u get from coal rocks

take forever too mine

[abstract girder]

So yes, you're right, but I don't know how to use the other methods when there are conveyor belts. I understand why people are now producing 10,000 screws in one factory because I was looking at the game from a narrow perspective. I thought it made sense for each factory to be independent, but a factory producing 10,000 screws is distributed to other factories that need screws. Yes, that makes sense, but how do you manage the logistics of that?

[unkempt blade]

You're supposed to use them just for the joy of doing so! Theyn don't even need to move stuff they just need to make your factory look more interesting

[elfin smelt]

the independence strat is not to be followed rigidly

only when it makes sense, screws are the perfect example of that

[native stream]

can someone explain how i can make a closed system for plastic? would i need alt recipes for rubber in order to produce, and any excess gets pushed back into the system?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah a screw megafactory is just logical. Shipping them all from one place improves the economy of scale

[abstract girder]

I can't do this, I hate this feeling that everything has to be perfect, I get so confused even when playing such a simple game.

[abstract girder]

That's why I'm making all my factories independent of each other, because I think I won't be able to manage the logistics if I do it this way.

[elfin smelt]

another thing is shipping goods in their most compact form

screw are the conplete opposite of that

[abstract girder]

Yes, you're right, I'll try transporting the minerals by truck when I build my other factory, let's see how it goes.

[supple canopy]

exactly how you should tacle transportation imo: testing with simple setups then going more and more complex if need be

[rough shore]

screws arent real

plus why ship screws when u can ship steel beams?

[supple canopy]

but again it's a sandbox game: if you like belt highways, all good

[ornate saffron]

best example is Iron ore. If you process it with Pure ingots its easier to move the ore as the conversion ratio is 1:8

But if you can make it more dense lets say by making reinforced plates or Modular frames it is more dense.

i prefer only to move things at there most dense this limits the need for complex infrustructure.

I have a factory cart moving Smart plates to my modular engine factory

[abstract girder]

So, thinking about it, conveyor belts are almost the limiting factor in everything in the game because if you need to bring 1000 materials to a factory per minute and my conveyor belt can only carry a maximum of 480 per minute, then the train can only carry that many because it also goes to the train station via conveyor belts, logically speaking (am I right about this?).

[proven snow]

Basically I just don’t use them if it’s more than two-three max belt lengths distance. Short distance theyre fine

[proven snow]

Been enjoying experimental a lot. Not sure what you’re referring to tho

[rough shore]

yeah thats why belts have tiers so u cant just transport everything

[ornate saffron]

through put will always be your restriction yes.

[abstract girder]

No, the thing is, since all my factories are independent, I build them near the nodes of the mines that are closest to each factory, so distance isn't a problem. But when I see that not everyone plays this way, I feel wrong.

[edgy forge]

Is there a set release date for 1.2 yet?

[elfin smelt]

you are right but freight stations can be lined up

[rough shore]

its not wrong but it is cuz not everything is made of 1 ore type/node

[edgy forge]

It’s just two different playing styles

[abstract girder]

So yes, according to my logic, the things sold in the Awesome Shop are unnecessary, like the small utility poles, for example. I used them in my factory recently, but I could have simply put them on poles. Your sentence has reassured me a little.

[elfin smelt]

so each train can transfer stuff as fast as 2 times your max belt speed + the number of freight stations

(each station has 2 belt inputs)

theoretically of course

[white dawn]

No; likely to be somewhere from like 1-3 months

[abstract girder]

What do you mean? I don't understand. Are you saying that since screws are very simple to produce, there's no need to manufacture 10,000 of them in a factory, or is it the other way around?

[elfin smelt]

just ship the ore and make screws where you need them

[ornate saffron]

during the 1.2 release live stream Mikael said there is no wrong way to play, and i agree. Just because others like to inflict pain on themselves does not mean you need to. The key thing is to have fun

[elfin smelt]

making one material and shipping everywhere it needs from my experience works best with rubber\plastic and aluminium

[ornate saffron]

make screws as needed and Direct feed them into the machine that uses them

[rough shore]

is there any item in this game that uses screws no matter the alt recipe?

[ornate saffron]

please rephrase

[elfin smelt]

or even better, dont ship anything if possible, pick a location for the factory where theres already some of the raw resources nearby

[abstract girder]

But what I don't understand is how you manage this with trains. With belts, it's quite simple; it automatically adjusts itself after a while. But this isn't the case with trains or any other vehicle. And for example, how do you calculate how many screws a factory should produce? Let's say you build a factory that produces 10,000, and somehow all your factories need to produce 12,000 screws. And since the game is ongoing, the screw requirement will increase significantly. Do you constantly update the screw-producing factory?

[elfin smelt]

dont calculate, overproduce

[abstract girder]

I didn't understand what you said.

[unkempt blade]

you build another screw factory when it can't support what you consume

[rough shore]

some items need screws to be crafted like for me currently from what i unlocked iron plates and rotors and heavy modular frames but i have alt recipe for each one that doesnt use screws are there any future items that do use screws but there is no alt recipe to skip that?

[unkempt blade]

equipment (which generally doesn't have alt recipes) and the awesome shop

[abstract girder]

Yes, that's true, the world order we live in is based on a lot of experiments, after all (or so they teach in schools :D).

[rough shore]

is there any equipment that u really need to automate tho?

[elfin smelt]

I mean the game is yours and play like you want, it's just.... making s big screw factory is not a a great ideia

[abstract girder]

Yes, what you're saying is true, but my computer isn't very good, and belts are things that put a strain on the computer, but the other option is a challenge for me.😭

[green fiber]

Centipede Pioneer and their need for hundreds of bladerunners:

[rough shore]

does anyone have a factory cart factory

[native tapir]

Yes. There is a great twitch streamer who has one. One sec I'll grab her name

[abstract girder]

Hmm, so you're saying transporting screws would be challenging? If something is easier to produce locally, it's better; if something is more difficult to produce, it's better to import the materials?

[abstract girder]

So yes, trains don't increase transport capacity, they're just a different mode of transport, right?

[elfin smelt]

here's how I do it: I dont have a big screw factory because it's a logistic nightmare, i just:
make the factory where theres already iron
OR
ship iron ore from somewhere else, wether by trucks(if theres coal nearby) or most of the time, trains, if the factory needs like 300 iron ore per minute, a single train freight station probably will suffice, if it doesn't, build another one

then I produce the screws right before the machines that need them

[rough shore]

transporting thousands of screws over a distance is harder than transporting a few beams/iron ingots

[rough shore]

yeah i mean u can just do really long conveyors instead of trains

[native tapir]

SmorezPoptart on twitch has one. She has been going through recently and updating it in 1.2 to use the new vehicle pathing

[fluid sapphire]

its even easier to not produce screws at all

[rough shore]

thats what im sayinggg

[white dawn]

Right -- train output/input is still limited by your belt speed. Trains (and vehicles, and drones) are basically just fancy belts.

The main benefit with trains is that the throughput capacity of rail lines is staggering

[abstract girder]

Yes, I know that, but I calculate how much ore is needed and the maximum amount my miner can extract and transport per minute, then I take the average of the mining points and place it there. So, I can use 2-3 iron ore mines for one of my factories; that's not a problem for me.

[white dawn]

You put down one bit of rail to support one transfer, and that works fine. But then later on you add another route which uses the same bit of rail

And then another, and then another. By the end of your game, that first bit of rail you put down is carrying a lot of material, and you sort of get it for free

[abstract girder]

One is like a manifold, the other like balancing; one is very simple, the other is complex but beautiful. 😭

[real shale]

You make me happy hiyahhh

[native tapir]

Organization is also a huge Factor. Belts are nearly impossible to keep organized over long distances. People have done it but much easier to just have a train line

[white dawn]

(so long as you're writing off your initial infrastructure investment. :)

[fluid sapphire]

while the bit about the limitation is true its worth noting how trivially easy it is to overcome by simply increasing the number of cars/platforms

[rough shore]

crazy factory cart only run?

[abstract girder]

Wow, that makes perfect sense, but isn't that logically the same as carrying five belts side-by-side?

[native tapir]

Yeah she has rules she is following. But it's a factory cart only save

@rough shore

[elfin smelt]

these same five belts will only carry iron ore, with trains, the same line can be used for multiple things

also rail lines are very very cheap

[abstract girder]

Yes, what you're saying makes sense, but what I don't understand is how you balance the necessary quantities with belts in a train, which is very simple with a manifold system, but how does that happen in a train?

[ornate saffron]

kind of, each belt output varies depending on stacks in the freight station. its best to look at a freight station max out put as belt speed times output ports used as theory only.

for example if you use both outputs with 1200/min belts you have a theoritical output speed of 2400. this will fluxuate though

[abstract girder]

I want to have fun too now.
But the things in the screenshots section are really confusing me. 😭

[ornate saffron]

sometimes it's best to ignore information that is not directly relevant

[elfin smelt]

I dont quite get it, balancing to what? the stations?

[abstract girder]

Here's how you distribute the required quantities to the required places.

[elfin smelt]

I just use 2 trains

one for each location

[abstract girder]

Yes, that's the strategy I'm pursuing because it seems too simplistic to have each factory independent, but for example, producing 10,000 screws and shipping them everywhere feels more realistic and sophisticated. 😔

[ornate saffron]

yes but shipping the raw ore would take up far less space

[elfin smelt]

you can feel like that but its a logistics nightmare

[ornate saffron]

also iron is always near. you shouldnt need to ship iron at all

[abstract girder]

So yes, that's right, but here's where the problem arises: how do the trains deliver the required number of iron? For example, let's say a train takes all the iron I produced and is supposed to take it to the necessary places, but it leaves all the iron at the very first factory it's delivered to. What about the other factories? (By the way, I haven't unlocked the trains in the game yet, so I don't know much about them; maybe it's very simple.)

[supple canopy]

what if that iron making factory would look super neat in the dune desert but the factory you've been planning on is in the grassy field?

[abstract girder]

What do you mean? Just a moment ago someone was saying it makes sense, and now you're saying it doesn't make much sense. I don't understand.

[elfin smelt]

that just like a manifold, eventually the first factory will saturate and the second one will starts receiving

[fluid sapphire]

for distributing a single type of resource from a central location, i do this:

-buffer platforms with industrial storage containers at source and at the receiving end,
-trains only go from this location to one other location
-only carry a single type of product
-only leave when fully loaded at source or fully unloaded at destination
-load and unload all platforms equally

with a system like this, as long you dont exceed supply from the central location, the system will simply balance out just like belts do

[elfin smelt]

everything makes sense depending on opinions, but a can guarantee that most people will recommend AGAINST that

[ornate saffron]

in the end there is no wrong way to play, if you want to ship iron all over do it. I support the "I want to" mindset. just be aware you are going to have new issues to overcome

[supple canopy]

i kno i was teasing

[abstract girder]

Hmm, that makes sense.But that would probably be difficult for me to do.

[elfin smelt]

one thing that is not subjective is that shipping screws is harder

[ornate saffron]

im to autistic to sus out meaning lol im in the satisfactory discord after all

[abstract girder]

So why are so many people building huge screw factories? (Is this perhaps selective perception?)

[ornate saffron]

likely, as many here choose to remove screws or build them where needed

[abstract girder]

mmyyyyy pppccccccccccccccccccccccc🔥

[supple canopy]

LOL I feel you

[fluid sapphire]

trains are fun, just learn to use trains

[rough shore]

idk

but screws are 🤮

[fluid sapphire]

its for the memes

[abstract girder]

So instead of building a bunch of belts, you're talking about just transporting a lot of goods along one road, right?

[elfin smelt]

in all cases, when you unlock trains, experiment with then with the directions we gave you, your confusion seems to come from thst fact that you didn't even used them yet

dont worry the your first line works is not optimal or needs some improvements, iteractive design is all about learning from mistakes

[fluid sapphire]

thats the biggest strength of rail - the fact that you can reuse the same rail for a lot of resources

[abstract girder]

Hmm yes, but I can't combine the belts, of course, as long as it doesn't exceed my carrying capacity. Wait a minute, something just occurred to me. How do the trains pick up a lot of items and drop off the required type of item in the necessary places? Is there a system for this in the game?

[abstract girder]

And then intersection problems arise 😭

[fickle locust]

Yes, there's a setting in the menu for them

I second the recommendation that you should play around with them. You'll answer your own questions just by posing them

[abstract girder]

I didn't quite understand what you meant by organizing conveyor belts over long distances.

[fluid sapphire]

there is a learning curve to signals, sure, but there is #1038092680493801533 for that, once you wrap your head around signals, they are pretty simple

[abstract girder]

So yes, it makes sense; it makes sense to have a single lane instead of a bunch of belts lined up side-by-side.

[fluid sapphire]

well, 2 lanes, one for each direction, like real world traffic

[abstract girder]

Sorry for the delay in replying to your messages, I'm using translation to answer them.

[fluid sapphire]

there are a lot of messages

[abstract girder]

So yes, that makes sense and dealing with traffic problems can be fun.

[abstract girder]

How can it fluctuate? Aren't we calculating the math in the game flawlessly?

[abstract girder]

Yes, I see people building extremely large factories for aluminum, and that scares me. I try to ignore it.

[abstract girder]

So, what I'm talking about here is that with belts, things are very simple; if I wait for all the belts to fill with a manifold system, then the required number of belts will go everywhere. But how can I do this with trains?