satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

Im past my big munbers phase .

My current playthrough is a chill run. Some personal relaxing goals

[edgy brook]

Appreciate it sm

[unborn flare]

I´m only like 10 hours into my first tier 9 though, so it´s all systems go for me

I am trying to make it pretty though, skyscrapers for the factories and nice bridges for trains

[night lotus]

i love making my factories look good

[unborn flare]

although limiting work that can´t be blueprinted for sanity

[unborn flare]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1483564864738693132
this is kinda what I´m going for

[sinful roost]

Hmm, what happens to our old truck routes?

[ornate saffron]

I bit phase 4 last night. Learned all of t7 immediately and started constructing a plateform for my aluminum setup

#design-and-architecture message

Now that the base is down I won't turn the game on for days as I work out the layout

[ornate saffron]

Looks effctive

[unborn flare]

are you using one of the giant bp mods?

[ornate saffron]

No. I manually made those curves

[unborn flare]

then idk how you make those faster than the layout design xd

[jaunty blade]

#screenshots message
@tacit canyon is this mod or vanilla game setting?

[ornate saffron]

I dont know about faster. But time flys when you are in the flow state

[ornate saffron]

1.2 experimental

[tacit canyon]

vanilla, it is the experimental branch. It is when you make a new game you can change the settings in gamemodes

[ornate saffron]

Lots of patients. I used to make art in paint with a mouse in windows 98

[hearty marlin]

hey, hows yall day going?

[tacit canyon]

good

[ornate saffron]

Good

[gloomy oriole]

oh damn power line daisy chaining!

[hearty marlin]

i wanted to ask u guys for opnion on something

[ornate saffron]

My answer will be opinionated

😛

[hearty marlin]

yessirr

ok, the thing is, i just unlocked the tractors, and it said it has an auto pilot system, is it worth making a completely different base for something specific and use the tractors to transport or are the tractors ass?

[white dawn]

Tractors are your first longer-range logistics option available. They are quite fun! You can continue to use belts if you like, of course, but vehicles are fun to explore

Later on you'll unlock other logistics methods, all with their own pros/cons

Personally I really dislike long belts, so if I've gotta transfer something more than like 300m or so, I'll use something other than belts

[hearty marlin]

i wanted to use trains, because idk how precise tractors are driving by themselves

[white dawn]

In the end it's down to personal preference. They've got a definite learning curve (some of which will be changing once v1.2 is released) but IMO tractors are well worth figuring out

[hearty marlin]

cause belts are slow?

[white dawn]

Tractors can be 100% reliable for delivering stuff, but they do take a nontrivial amount of practice. v1.2, once it's out, seems like it'll probably smooth over a lot of those edges, though

[unkempt blade]

if you spend your coupons wisely you can also leap straight to the gg vehicle and use factory carts

[hearty marlin]

what edges?

[ornate saffron]

I think trucks are a great option. They have good throughput and require little infrastructure. You just need a power source (likely coal) and two truck stations.

They are near useless to me as I can't drive them to record the route

[unkempt blade]

the ones between certain foundations, that's why you should always use asphalt for roads to avoid them

[white dawn]

For me it's more of an aesthetic thing, but it's also that belts are inherently labor-intensive. When you lay down a single belt (or a bunch of belts), then you've got that fixed amount of throughput and that's it. If you need more throughput you've gotta lay more belts down, or upgrade your existing ones, which is labor-intensive

Whereas with vehicles you can always slap more vehicles running the same route, and IMO recording new routes at least partially along already-established lines is more enjoyable than plonking down endless belt segments

[hearty marlin]

hmmmm

[hearty marlin]

and the vehicles wont crash into each other eventually?

[white dawn]

Oh sorry, meant to say "rough edges" as in "the little quirks and stuff you discover and have to work around in order to become proficient at working with vehicles" :D

[remote siren]

something is weird

[hearty marlin]

when do i unlock asphalt

[remote siren]

i have 400 fuel/min, thats enough to power 20 generators

[ornate saffron]

Sorry thats me. Im weird

[remote siren]

but half of them are red

[hearty marlin]

arent we all

[white dawn]

Factory Carts Cure Depression also mentioned the "default" foundation, which does have minor edges on 'em that I too would avoid on roads. I don't actually build roads for my tractors, though -- I just let them go on the "natural" roads on the ground. :)

[unkempt blade]

exactly, like how bouncy the line between metal foundations is and how annoying it is while recording routes

[ornate saffron]

Check pipe connections and junctions and my math is my first step of trouble shooting

[unkempt blade]

it's in the awesome shop so pretty much whenever you want to + have coupons for it

[hearty marlin]

hmm, but its worth building a separate factory for lets say, rotors?

[white dawn]

If they do, they should auto-recover pretty well. And if a vehicle hasn't reached its next node after a certain amount of time, they should auto-teleport to the node after some number of seconds

[near frost]

I am curious what is the targeted age for this game?

[cobalt plinth]

I love this patch

[white dawn]

I've not seen actually deadlocked vehicles in the game in a really long time

Though I would also recommend not having path intersections any more extreme than 90° or so

[ornate saffron]

There is a f bomb

[fluid sapphire]

4+

[white dawn]

I make a separate, isolated factory for literally every resource I make

[fluid sapphire]

Start them early

[unkempt blade]

if you sit there and watch a crowded route sometimes there's a clog or something that can happen but it does fix itself as soon as you're "out of range" and it also never happens at all unless you're close by and watching it

[hearty marlin]

oh thats a nice mechanic, kinda ensures that you will get what you need no matter what

[near frost]

I feel like I see 30 y/o then sometimes 13y/o

[cobalt plinth]

Wow that's really cool? This for real?

[white dawn]

I suspect that v1.2 is likely to take care of even those cases

[ornate saffron]

Lol.

[hearty marlin]

yeah, its just cause im still in early game so i didnt know wheter to do it or not

[white dawn]

When you're far enough away they don't even fully simulate; they just kind of teleport to the next node periodically

[cobalt plinth]

Welll, that's one way to fix pathing lol

[cobalt plinth]

What about on Dedicated Servers

[fluid sapphire]

I don't think the target is an age demographic, rather a type of person

[unkempt blade]

same there, I play exclusively on a dedi and use LOTS of vehicles

[hearty marlin]

thats a good question

[white dawn]

Honestly not sure, though I suspect it's still processing based on connected player location

[ornate saffron]

The game tends to not render anything you cannot see.

[cobalt plinth]

Yeah, I don’t know if Satisfactory always renders the person, because if that’s the case, then to the vehicle it would seem like someone is always looking at it.

[hearty marlin]

so when im making a base entirely for one ore, like copper, how many nodes should i be looking for?

[hearty marlin]

basic optmzation

[near frost]

True

But still like when marketing do you market towards more kid friendly

Or like grown adults a tbh this game marketing is perfect

[cobalt plinth]

Young adults

[white dawn]

I make my targets based on the product, not the nodes. If I want 30/min Copper Sheets, I make a 30/min copper sheets and then that's done. If there's room left on the node(s) I used for other products later, then great -- I can always split the node output

[cobalt plinth]

Best way to do it,

[white dawn]

But I set my targets based on the output I want and then find a factory location which can support it

[fluid sapphire]

I "marketed" it to my 13 brother, wasn't too hard to get him into it

[white dawn]

Personally I wouldn't bother trying to "maximize" node output -- it's a huge map with a ton of resources. But then, I like expanding. :)

[cobalt plinth]

But their silly videos, especially the one that just came out, I could see attracting kids. So if it works, it works

[hearty marlin]

hmmm

[white dawn]

And to be clear: my isolated factories may very well end up right next to each other, using the same nodes. Or even on different floors of the same building. I just site them wherever the resources make sense

[near frost]

And tbh ya it's the type of person cuz the 13y/o at my skool will never play anything like this all they do is steal the brainrpt

But on the other hand I know a 19y/o who might play it a lot

[white dawn]

I also never expand existing factories. If I need more of something, I just make another factory for it. Expanding existing factories and/or rebuilding is too much work for me; I'd prefer to just build a new one from the ground up. It's the same amount of Factory either way, but that way I get to start from scratch and not have to worry about adapting existing stuff, or dealing with any past "mistakes" I made on previous factories

[near frost]

Anyway good night its 1am here

I have been testing 1.2 for the past 3h

[hearty marlin]

what does purity temp mean

[primal crypt]

Thier will always be mistakes the most you can do is let it inform future builds.

[karmic portal]

Guys someone please. I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG, and yes it has to do with water.

[white dawn]

Just a visual/labelling bug -- it's a regular node just like any other node

[hearty marlin]

oh good good

[primal crypt]

post in help billy.

with pictures

[cobalt plinth]

Never understood, why they put the Flashlight on B, and the Building menu on Q. Should be reversed. Which I did. lol

[karmic portal]

Yeah but im just making coal power plant and i dont wanna do all that lol, can i just call somone or ss???

[white dawn]

Q is "closer" to your WASD fingers (on qwerty keyboards anyway); flashlight's less likely to be used as often

[cobalt plinth]

after 600 hours i was still hitting B to build, my brain just keeps going towards it, can't beat em, join em

[karmic portal]

done

[hearty marlin]

YO, i just found 3 pure nodes of iron next to each other

[cobalt plinth]

oh i went all out, the new game, i made EVERYTHING Pure. I earned it with this many hours

[hearty marlin]

wym

[cobalt plinth]

Didn't you read the patch notes...?

Didn’t you read the patch notes?

With the new patch, when you start a new game, you can now randomize the seed. That means you could get more impure nodes, fewer impure nodes, or more pure nodes. It also randomizes the resources, so where oil was before, it could now be iron, etc.

[hearty marlin]

hmmmm, so every person has a different map basically

[void cliff]

any idea how to set the tractor to only drive when full? I can't edit the pause node anymore with the new setup

[zenith pecan]

I'm finally giving in and automating the portable miners 🤣

[cobalt plinth]

You can also adjust the rates, so for example, you only need half the amount of a resource to get to the new one. Or you can increase it instead. Lots of cool shit.

[remote siren]

i got 2 oilpumps, 300 each, going into 1 puffertank, 4 raffinerie at full OC, making 400 fuel/min into 20 generators, but somehow the generators wont all work, any idea?

[ornate saffron]

Can have a different map. And its only experimental currently.

[karmic portal]

Thanks again, have a good night guys

[cobalt plinth]

So say in stead of 45 Limestone needs for 1 Cement. You culd set it to be .25 of that. 1/4 of what you need. It's great

[unkempt blade]

no you have a good night!

[astral patio]

is it just me or is snap building machines next to each other broken (on experimental)

[karmic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-movie-blush-gif-17553823346583229377

[ornate saffron]

No issues on main branch for me

[white dawn]

It's so worth it now that they stack (plus Depot)

[zenith pecan]

I forgot they simplified the recipe, used to be 4 Steel Pipes, 4 Iron Rods, 2 Iron Plates & 1 Motor for the automated portable miner (assuming my memory is correct) in a manufacturer.

[white dawn]

Yeah, something like that

[stone python]

go post in the experimental channel #satisfactory-experimental

[white dawn]

And at the time they didn't even stack, so carrying them around was a huge pain

Far easier to just craft as-needed (IMO)

[astral patio]

thought I was whoops

[zenith pecan]

That's what I've done since time immemorial, hand craft on demand.

[hearty marlin]

night

[unkempt blade]

Yeah my last save I just afk-crafted a couple hundred miners while I was making coffee and stuck them in the depot. It was wonderful

[past spoke]

is it recommended to not play 1.2 EXP in multiplayer with one friend?

[solid notch]

at 8:37 of the video, a new biome ❤️

[zenith pecan]

Still kind of sad, I got a portal network but no miner construction.

[white dawn]

But yeah, stackable portable miners plus dimensional depot (plus a trivial assembler recipe) == win

[zenith pecan]

Yep, plan is to build that factory in the swamp, then look at siting my, err Sporting Goods facilities.

[white dawn]

hah

[zenith pecan]

The old one got knocked over because I needed the canyon oil for other crap.

[unkempt blade]

nobelisketball? extreme carting?

[cobalt plinth]

Does the map actually randomize now, or it's the same map with eh random resources locations

[white dawn]

The map itself will forever be static; they have no plans for procedural map generation

[zenith pecan]

Due to the oil well in the middle of the map, I'm probably going to have the sporting goods plant also supply regular & turbofuel, might even get rocket fuel in the canisters, only need a tiny output for jetpack stuff.

[white dawn]

On the experimental branch right now (which will eventually become v1.2) there's options to randomize resource nodes when starting a new game, though.

[cobalt plinth]

Yeah i did that. I wish it was random seeds

That would be INCREDIBLE

[humble reef]

guys - weather I mean thunderstorm work in your game? I trying to test it but there are no thunders in Extreme preset 😄

holy shit but what a beatiful update anyway 🙂

[ornate saffron]

1.2 experimental has random nodes as a option. Its the same hand crafted map though.

[cobalt plinth]

I am assuming once you start the single player game, you can't change the settings?

[white dawn]

<um_actually> A "random seed" is just a number used to start off a chain of pseudorandom number generation, btw, and can be used to get the same set of pseudorandom numbers over and over. The random node options in v1.2 do make use of a random seed for that. What you're really after is procedural map generation (which, yes, would also presumably be programmed such that you could provide a seed). </um_actually>

[ornate saffron]

Likely best asked in #satisfactory-experimental

[unkempt blade]

wait they added daisy chained power? you guys buried the lede!

[fluid sapphire]

Petition to W3C to make that an official html tag

With its own default styling

[white dawn]

(default rendering is to hide it. :D)

[fluid sapphire]

That sounds about right

[fluid sapphire]

all that effort to make fancy blueprints with regards to power plugs, all for nothing, now I have to redo everything

Ugh

[zenith pecan]

The daisy chaining, yeah that one surprised me, I'm not rewiring everything now.

[unkempt blade]

I'm just excited I can avoiding jumping through hoops like #screenshots message to keep the cables sort of tidy

[white dawn]

yeah, another longstanding "no, we're not gonna do that" type thing made it in!

Very early prototypes of the game played around with daisychaining.

(Not that you can't do it yourself w/ blueprints, of course)

[zenith pecan]

Plus most of my stuff is powered from below, hiding the power cables.

[fluid sapphire]

I have a whole ass system where I clip a wall plug into the machine where the original connector is, then another one under the floor, wire those together so that the wires clip through the machine in a way that's barely visible beyond a few meters away, then have basically one ceiling plug clipped into the floor so I can daisy chain the prints themselves, it took forever to make all my blueprint modules like this

[zenith pecan]

I wonder how badly I can crash the game engine by firing a cannon into a portal, that is facing another portal.

[unkempt blade]

only one way to find out!

[pure condor]

im starting a brand new save because I was getting bored of my current one what place should I start at

[summer coral]

daisy chaining power gonna be so nice, cant make power lines look good no matter what i do for some reason :(

[white dawn]

Red Bamboo

[pure condor]

what

[summer coral]

id say the grassy area and just expand out of the area quickly

[unkempt blade]

the giant hole in the middle of the map that goes into the void

[pure condor]

oh good thinking

[fallow jolt]

i open it up and broke 1.2 with in a minute

[zenith pecan]

Experiment prepared #screenshots message

[pure condor]

I cant decide between grass fields and dune desert

[unkempt blade]

My biggest disappointment with portals is that I couldn't drive carts into them

They're pretty expensive to run but if I could drive into them it would be totally worth it

[mystic oriole]

Agreed, that was the biggest thing that actually would have made sense

[elfin smelt]

daisy chaining seems cool but they kinda kill the point of better power poles

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, I have tried a lot of different solutions, the only thing I have found that looks OK is hiding cables under the floor, finally no longer necessary to do that

[zenith pecan]

Gonna lower the cannon a bit.

[fallow jolt]

drive though a fuid imput at max speed wile spaming the lode button it will imeditly breake

[spring salmon]

Ok so I don't know where to ask this so. Hope i don't get moaned at asking it here. Im on xbox and I've connected with my epic account and it keeps crashing. I am just wondering if there's any work around for this.

[summer coral]

yea, though i find i have to be super precise with where the actual cable goes with that and i do not have the patience fot it

[pure condor]

im gonna do dune desert

[unkempt blade]

I don't know the answer but you might have luck in #satisfactory-consoles

[primal crypt]

Hopefully more people discover how great trucks are.

[summer coral]

trains > trucks

dont have to setup a fuel production line for them

[fluid sapphire]

I use blueprints for the most part, once a module is built I have little reason to fiddle with it

[elfin smelt]

I like trucks but yeah it was a headache to set paths

having to redo the whole path because of a slight mistake in the recording sucks

[primal crypt]

Fuel only needs to drop into the deilvery site at first. it gets more complcated later.

[summer coral]

thinking about it though i might wait for 1.2 to redo my starter factory so i can use trucks

[primal crypt]

Trains powering themselves is a big plus.

[elfin smelt]

almost everything after phase 2 uses coal so you can just feed a bit of the coal you are harvesting into the stations

[mystic oriole]

hence why you should skip coal for power

[summer coral]

ehh, im planning my factories to use all the coal usually, sometimes more than all the coal

[fluid sapphire]

This is great actually, a reason to actually build that fuel factory I was considering at one point

[zenith pecan]

Looks like they already thought of it #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

I imagine you could set it up similar to drones, have dedicated trucks or trains deliver fuel to different spots

More vehicles, more lively game

[mystic oriole]

Thanks for the update, that was an awesome idea.

[summer coral]

ooh i could tear down my fuel powerplant, reconfigure it into just packaged fuel production and transport by train over to my starter factory and distribute it to power the trucks

[unkempt blade]

Aww stopping on exit is lame. Could maybe like clip a mk6 conveyor into the portal platform or something but it probably wouldn't be crash-the-game speeds still 🙁

[zenith pecan]

I half expected an infinite loop that would lead to a crash, but the portal itself stopped it.

[fluid sapphire]

Just build another one?

[zenith pecan]

Only other thing I could do would involve a mod, put one portal facing down, dropping you into another one.

[primal crypt]

posts my truck depot into sceenshot this pic is before i installed the escalator.

[mystic oriole]

or something similar to how sometimes the hypertubes will kick you out.

[summer coral]

was planning to tear it down eventually anyways, got 500k+ MW from my ionized fuel

[unkempt blade]

Or I wonder if a jump pad right behind the portal would be close enough to kick you forward. Those have a bigger "hitbox" for the effect than people expect

[mystic oriole]

portal 2 vibes?

[zenith pecan]

Pretty much, hell I'm swimming in sing cells so why not play portal in satisfactory.

[celest olive]

Wasn’t there supposed to be a new phase requirement(s) that was item/minute based instead of just number of an item? I remember that in a q&a but didnt see it in the notes.

[mortal ginkgo]

never mentioned aside from having a mod

[ornate saffron]

i do not remember any such talk officially. this doesnt mean it didnt happen. The devs are usually pretty cryptic and play close to the chest

[fluid sapphire]

I am assuming that's just for fun and you're aware that producing ionized fuel is an energy negative process

[summer coral]

yea.. i knew that..

stepping stone to nuclear, itll be fine

[weary gate]

I’m confused, are we getting a puzzle mode

[fluid sapphire]

Subway surfer gamemode

[ornate saffron]

no. Although there is a puzzle game in the hub

[weary gate]

Oh, ok.

Is there a random weather preset?

[ornate saffron]

it can be addictive. I sometimes boot up my creative save just to play it

[weary gate]

Or do you have to manually switch the weather.

[ornate saffron]

this is best asked in #satisfactory-experimental as they are using the mod

[sick falcon]

i kinda hate how they’re adding daisy chaining power lines it lwk removes the whole point of power poles

[summer coral]

gotta get the cable to the first machine without using power towers

[oblique aspen]

power poles are not that magical of a feature to have them be mandatory, it gives you more options to organize things

[ornate saffron]

do you know how its implamented? is it like lights where you can only havbe two wires. If so the poles still have uses

[oblique aspen]

yes its only two wires

but in theory you could run one long wire through the entire factory from start to finish .. it would likely be annoying, but you could do it 😛

[ornate saffron]

im okay with it then. ill still use poles and wall nodes

[oblique aspen]

all this will replace for me is the poles right next to every machine to connect them up, really

[fluid sapphire]

They should never have added zoop or hologram lock, makes it too easy

[summer coral]

o-o

youre not serious right?

building 100x100 platforms without zoop?

[fluid sapphire]

I am just riffing off daisy chaining somehow being bad

[keen nymph]

whens RWG, not random nodes thats just lazy...

[unkempt blade]

just blueprint it

[fluid sapphire]

It's QoL

Martian, do you have any idea how much work it is to create game maps

[keen nymph]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

Sure don't look it :p

[supple canopy]

until building a blueprint gets you down to 7 spf

[keen nymph]

dlc is an option, id pay for a new map

[unkempt blade]

that's way too low, you'll get a sunburn

[summer coral]

hate blueprints, hate making them, using them, organizing them

[unkempt blade]

they're pretty great if you spend a little time using them

[fluid sapphire]

I'd rather have everything in the base game and get other people into it as well with the pitch of "look, you get all this stuff, no dlc required"

But I would pay for dlc too

[summer coral]

would definitely pay for a RWG feature cause i already know the base map is great for gameplay

[celest olive]

https://youtu.be/ey9b_8HkMG8?si=RHDRHjXnAQGt9-fd I guess it was this + speculation that led to thinking some item/minute thresholds were coming.

[ornate saffron]

Its a hand crafted map. I also would be will to pay for another handcrafted map. But considering the ongoing support of this game without asking us to spend a single dollar more Im happy with my purchase. I consider anyhting more we get a gift

[jovial plume]

Hello, in this 1.2 version, are they going to fix the pipe problems? The holes in the ground where liquid stops flowing, pipes that don't refill, etc.? Or is it estimated for another update?

[celest olive]

Would have been nice, on dedicated server it makes just waiting for items to build too easy, unless you enable pause when nobody is online

[tall lantern]

it only took 'em, what, 5 years to make this map? So give it til 2030 for the next

[unkempt blade]

they've confirmed fluids are going to be even more perfect than they already are

[fluid sapphire]

Whatever pipe problems you have can be dealt with in #1038092680493801533

[ornate saffron]

they mentioned two streams ago the 1.2 will come with several bug fixes. They do mention some but not a full list

[tall lantern]

by which you mean the only actual changes were fluid trucks, bigger fluid carriages, and pipe t junction

[unkempt blade]

see, even more perfect!

[jovial plume]

Thanks, I'll wait to see what they say! Sometimes building large factories with liquids is a real pain in the ass.

[tall lantern]

I don't think there'll be any changes to the fluid sim in 1.2, if there were they'd definitely have said something about it given how many people struggle with it

[ornate saffron]

Ive had little issues since 1.1 and the issues ive had are self inflicted.

[summer coral]

4800 fuel a minute sound like enough for fueling a couple of trucks?

[tall lantern]

so, just gotta learn to build in ways that don't anger the pipe gods

[unkempt blade]

yeah at least a couple

[fluid sapphire]

A couple? That can do at least 3

[jovial plume]

I often have problems when joining blueprints, and the wall/floor holes stop flowing. that I'm probably doing things wrong too

[summer coral]

so i should sloop the blenders or find more oil

[ornate saffron]

waht is the tank size in a truck 3200?

[celest olive]

I just build and it works

[fluid sapphire]

Think it was yeah

[ornate saffron]

so 4800 fuel a minute is two trucks ^_^

[summer coral]

wait i could just grab a truck and some packed fuel to check how quick it gets used

[unkempt blade]

you have to make a sacrifice by throwing one of your fellow pioneers into a volcano the big hole in the middle of the map

[fluid sapphire]

If you know there's more oil out there, give there are only around 100 sloops, hardly seems worth it

[fluid sapphire]

I think the question was about actually fueling the trucks, rather than using them to carry said fuel

[summer coral]

except i dont actually have any packaged fuel lol

[ornate saffron]

if you are using the oil to make power i would just make APA

[unkempt blade]

a full stack goes a long way

[ornate saffron]

man why is english so hard

[primal crypt]

I drop a generator 20 percent for every truck but the amount they use is far less.

[summer coral]

does fuel get consumed by seconds or meters

[ornate saffron]

by .min

[unkempt blade]

a stack is like 15min of runtime or something silly like that for a truck

[primal crypt]

problem is the trackotrs truck use more wehn accelerating.

so they use less the the thieretical MW.

[summer coral]

oh i dont need to use the heavy oil production recipe then

can just use like plastic and use the byproduct

[keen flame]

hello, i have a question about playing the game offline

[ornate saffron]

pick the recipes that best suit your needs.

this is the way

[unkempt blade]

wait AND new css-person emotes? This patch cycle is

[keen flame]

i had access to internet an hour ago but it‘s gone now, if i save the game rn and leave and come back later when i have internet without syncing to steam it‘ll still work and nothing will be lost right, except my last location? because someone said i spawn in the hub next time i boot up the save

[heavy mist]

how we doing today chat

[primal crypt]

no need to big brain oil use inefficient methods early game then break of new pieces later when you need more power or plastics.

[unkempt blade]

1.2 has daisy chained power so the day is even more perfect than it already was before I read the patch notes

[ornate saffron]

if you are playing on the same computer all the time with a local save (not connecting to another computer or server while playing) it doesnt matter.

i play off line all day on my laptop with no issues. I

[heavy mist]

no more clustering of ugly bs. i was so happy when i read that, fresh save gonna start soon

[past cargo]

Question for everyone, would anyone want a discord bot dedicated to looking for group posts which can be used accross servers?

[ornate saffron]

i dont even know what that means. I also play single player only

[keen flame]

alrighty thanks

[unkempt blade]

I play MP but only with people I know IRL. I would also think this might be a moderation headache depending on how it was implemented

[primal crypt]

i dont even know whawt im doing which is why no one can help me.

[supple canopy]

no way I have move forward set to z and it won't work

only W will work

[past cargo]

Haha, like the #1201555265942724758

[heavy mist]

i also love the fact that all nodes pure is no longer a mod

[ruby island]

Z as a keybind doesn't work in experimental right now for some reason

[past cargo]

It would be more so a bot which gives users to grow their Satisfactory group I suppose. The moderation would be handled by the individual server(s)

[primal crypt]

i saw nothing realted to new pipes in patchvideo.

[languid arrow]

Not satisfactory related but anyone wanna see the cards I made in class today?

[ornate saffron]

this is for #off-topic-general

[supple canopy]

that fuckin SUCKS because that's the W equivalent on the french keyboard (wasd => zqsd)

[primal crypt]

cards? are meme section is quite wild if you havent visted

[ruby island]

yea a ton of people have noted it, I assume it'll be in the first hotfix

[heavy mist]

we are updating, i can feel this game pulling my soul away already, please dont let me do this

[ornate saffron]

@ruby island @supple canopy

Have you posted about thins on the QandA site?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[supple canopy]

yea it's pretty gamebreaking for me

[supple canopy]

not yet but that was my intention

[ruby island]

I've seen it there yeah. Always good to pop over and upvote

[supple canopy]

thanks for the link

[ornate saffron]

Report for sure.

If its 1.2 related... well that is to be expected

[supple canopy]

yea I upvoted it

[heavy mist]

anyone know why no matter the setting i play on , my mouse always leaves the screen, only on satisfactory ( both versions )

[abstract girder]

How do I make a backup of my save?

[supple canopy]

open your files and type in %LOCALAPPDATA% in the adress bar up top

[leaden turret]

copy/paste from save folder in #faq

[supple canopy]

then Factory Games / Saved Games

[abstract girder]

thank you

[ornate saffron]

are you playing on a setup with multiple displayys

[heavy mist]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

find where it is saved #faq

then copy and paste the folder elsewhere

[abstract girder]

can you look at the experimental

[ornate saffron]

sounds like your mouse is not locking to the window. Try playing fullscreen (not windowed borderless)

[cursive crane]

@obsidian zodiac I demand an animated emote of the cursed dance at 11:50 in the release vid

[heavy mist]

happens on all 3 of those settings sadly

[ornate saffron]

ive not had this issue in this game. im just spit balling

[empty spoke]

should i use more block or path signals i didnt quite figure out the difference

[ornate saffron]

i just quickly Scrubbed #1038092680493801533 the only advice other then what oyu have already tried i could find is actually clicking the game icon on your task bar.

maybe check the QandA sitte for related issues

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[empty spoke]

my train shows signalling problem eventho there is no signal in a 5km radius

placed block signals before and after the train and it still doesnt continue

[ornate saffron]

so Signals are all or nothing. they divide A entire track line into blocks. Minimum Two blocks

[desert arch]

playing for 2 hours with the EXTREME preset too and always good weather. seems to be broken 🙁

[ornate saffron]

theyve been chatting about this in #satisfactory-experimental i suggest a talking there about it as all eye are there lol

[empty spoke]

wait if i have a 24 trains with 4 cars each does that mean i have to place a block signal every 5 foundations on my whole route?

[sick falcon]

its like batteries

[heavy mist]

i fixed it, moved monitors in display settings

[dense violet]

you could still do it like every 10 foudnations.

[ornate saffron]

i place a signal once for each train length

[dense violet]

have overhead images of yoru layout and blocks in a #1038092680493801533 post

[ornate saffron]

azwesome

[storm pebble]

This is probably a stupid question but I just downloaded the 1.2 update in the expiramental channel and now the game wont even start. I keep getting a message popup saying "plugin 'CharacterReplacer' failed to load because module 'CharacterReplacer' could not be loaded. There may be an operating system error or the module may not be properly set up" is this a result of the update? Also my b if this is the wrong channel

[ornate saffron]

ty

[dense violet]

were you using mods?

[green fiber]

sounds like a mod. mods are broken on 1.2 right now

[storm pebble]

Ah shit thats it exactly. Forgot I was using a different player model. Thanks lmfao

[ornate saffron]

#satisfactory-memes message

[abstract girder]

i what? say that again

[empty spoke]

and do i wanna use block or path signals for that?

[heavy mist]

I could use my controller no issues but I’m good this works just gotta remember to move em back when done
If I don’t die in my chair playing

[ornate saffron]

block is your general use signal

path is for going into intersections with multiple tracks

[ornate saffron]

fair

[empty spoke]

ohh so path is when two networks cross eachother?? perfect

[ornate saffron]

sooemthing like that. its a bit complex. and this is a poor forum to get into it.

If your search path signal in #1038092680493801533 you will get many posts explaining it

[ornate saffron]

many youtube videos on it too

[keen flame]

what was the "this is the game“ moment for you guys for satisfsctory

[hollow turret]

in the ficit awsome shop it s100 tickets per hard drive right

[hollow turret]

lizard doggo

[wispy tundra]

I AM SO EFFING HYPED FOR 1.2 OMG OMG OMG

BEST.
UPDATE.
EVER.

[keen flame]

wait can u produce hard drives in the late game, why would you waste them

[ornate saffron]

itll be good when it hits main. Lots of bugs today though

[dense violet]

1.2 seems ... fine? good if you like trucks

[wispy tundra]

when I realized I spent an entire weekend playing it when my GF was travelling and didn't even shower

[dense violet]

or want to like trucks

[ornate saffron]

you can buy them in the Awe4some shop and there is more in the game then needed

[wispy tundra]

My save is LITERALLY based on trucks

[dense violet]

did it kill all your recorded routes?

[wispy tundra]

I didn't try experimental, I became too dependent of some mods

[keen flame]

lol sounds like a satisfactory player would do

[keen flame]

thanks, you‘ve been very helpful ever since i joined :3

[modest nest]

am I reading this correctly, do we have actual random world gen now on the experimental build?

[wispy tundra]

HELL FUCK YEA

[modest nest]

HOLY SHIT

[abstract girder]

How can I buy hard drives from a store?

[modest nest]

Im downloading , Ive got hotel internet rn at a strong 1.5 MB/s but Its going

[ornate saffron]

\no, random nods not world gen

[abstract girder]

from awesome shop

[modest nest]

Yeah I saw that but theres also an option for world seed, with the base world being 0

[hollow turret]

tickets

[steep arch]

did I see correctly that train fluid cars also got an upgrade in experimental? I swear it was 2400m3 but now the platforms say 3200m3

[wispy tundra]

AND YOU CAN EVEN setup like "I want more resources, or more fluids" and "I want more Pure nodes / no Pure nodes"

[modest nest]

I saw that too but I was mainly looking at the like world seed option, what exactly does that do

[ornate saffron]

BACKUP or saves and blueprints

[hollow turret]

#screenshots message

[wispy tundra]

I didn't try it yet, but I think it spawns nodes in different positions

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message damn its so expensive

[modest nest]

Ah, I thought it mightve been like actual random terrain gen

[abstract girder]

but i dont have it

[modest nest]

Thats still pretty cool though

[abstract girder]

how can you buy that?

[hollow turret]

in the awsome shop

[ornate saffron]

I really like the handcrafted map.

i hope one day we get another

[wispy tundra]

node locations changing make playthroughs VERY different imho

[ornate saffron]

it becomes available in the shop around tier 8 i think

[modest nest]

Yeah same, its pretty cool, I think random node locations are honestly fire and will probably make the game a lot more replayable @wispy tundra

[heavy mist]

Dude I forgot I changed one of those and muscle memory said where tf is my copper
Why tf is coal here

[wispy tundra]

Yeah, a procedural map would probably have many issues

[abstract girder]

oh okay

[next ivy]

then fix the issues

ez

[hollow turret]

dawg

[wispy tundra]

ROFL exactly
Imagine having to scout for nodes again
and rethink your entire setup

[modest nest]

True but that would most likely take a long time

[wispy tundra]

I meant issues like the map sucking

[heavy mist]

It’ll be fun to see tbh, looking forward to how it comes up

[ornate saffron]

NP,

[modest nest]

Perhaps a community map editor?

[wispy tundra]

that would be interesting

[modest nest]

not sure if thats the direction they're wanting to take the game though

[wispy tundra]

community-made maps would be DOPE

[modest nest]

Im sure atleast a few large groups would form to create maps

[wispy tundra]

it's unreal, so anyone with UDK could make a map

[ornate saffron]

someone was saying that SCIM has already been updated and you can input your seed #

i have not looked into it.

Im a little burnt out so im just chatting watching tv

[knotty bear]

Is there any way that I can modify the resource or power settings of an existing save/

[wispy tundra]

man, that was fast

[modest nest]

I miss that feeling, I shall soon not though

[modest nest]

no

[lean turtle]

thought I was going crazy, but did they add physics to trees falling after cutting?!

[white dawn]

That came with v1.1, yeah

[wispy tundra]

man, I am 100% doing my second playthrough, when I get to that point, using both Satisfactory Plus AND a random seed. That'll be like playing an entirely new game

[ornate saffron]

I played 1000 days without knowing online calculators and the interactive map existed. ^_^

im looking forward to random nodes if i ever get board

[knotty bear]

My FPS seems slightly lower than before, before on my settings I had 60 now I have 32 that feels slightly more jerky.

With 50% screen I can get 55-60fps.

[ornate saffron]

experimental ? If so try turning off weather effects

[heavy mist]

yeah scim works well i just checked

[knotty bear]

Experimetal yeah.

[wispy tundra]

I'm looking very, very, VERY forward to the vehicle path improvements
My world is LITERALLY based primarily on truck logistics https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1ru66ua/450_hours_in_this_is_platform_alpha/

[knotty bear]

Like it's tolerable but not great.

[lean turtle]

ohh, then I haven't cut down a tree since 1.0, I think🙆‍♂️

[knotty bear]

Ryzen 5 3600, 24gb RAM, 2x hdd satisfactory is only thing using its HDD, and an rtx 2060 6gb.

[ornate saffron]

i fine the Lows really make it feel bad. If 32 fps is your low try locking it to 30fps. it will remove any random frame dips. that is what your brain sees as jerking

[modest nest]

I'd reccomend not putting satisfactory on an HDD, get an NVME if possible

[knotty bear]

When can I unlock the toliet?

Respawn

[ornate saffron]

mam research alien tech i think

[heavy mist]

IRL or ingame?

[ornate saffron]

i live alone my bathroom never locks

[knotty bear]

I would get an NVME if I could but no money, and the largest in our house is 128gb and I'll have to move windows 10 on there + unity, satisfactory will make it tight.

[supple canopy]

wow they reduced the inertia in this update

[ornate saffron]

fair. i picked up a 1tb ssd for $60 canadian not long ago. If you can spare its a lower cost option that may really help if you can find tha cash to spare

[abstract girder]

DON'T THE THINGS ON THE GROUND DISAPPEAR AFTER A WHILE? DAMN

[ornate saffron]

for vehicles?

they did mention Vehicle physics changes in the stream today

[wispy tundra]

man, if I wasn't so dependent on mods like Infinite Dismantle, Infinite Zoop, Infinite Nudge, Soft Clearance for Everything, Cartograph and Hotterbars
I'd 100% be on experimental right now

[ornate saffron]

when this annoys me io save then load

[supple canopy]

nah by foot, in the air mostly

[tall lantern]

never too early to break an addiction

[abstract girder]

what

[heavy mist]

Me too man, come join us. Break the shell and have some fun

[abstract girder]

i dont understood

[ornate saffron]

save the game. then load the game. it makes all the things you destroyed on the ground ddespawn

[abstract girder]

oh oaky

I was very scared for a moment.

[wispy tundra]

I can't imagine playing having to Zoop one line at a time and having to change hotbars by hand 🙁

BTW it's ABSURD that Hotterbars' functionality is not in the game

[vapid jay]

it's not that bad, if it's the only way you know lmao

[leaden turret]

back in my day you couldn't zoop and concrete had a 200 stack size instead of 500

[wispy tundra]

yikes

[ornate saffron]

My laptop is much weaker then my desktop. its fine for the most part but when blow up fart rocks or boulders my game lags for fifteen minutes. so i immediately save then load to get around this

[frosty bison]

Not being able to do tight turns in the new path method for vehicles is fucking criminal

[green fiber]

what does hotterbars do differently?
i can already switch hotbars with like 1 button click (plus some scrolling)

[wispy tundra]

F1-F10 to change hotbars

[green fiber]

controller most likely

[abstract girder]

I think my performance issues are due to this.

[green fiber]

they probably didnt wanna add yet more buttons

game already uses too many buttons

[wispy tundra]

hm. Makes sense. I still lowkey hate having to scroll to switch hotbars, specially as my number of fully filled hotbars grew (I have 8 full bars now)

[ornate saffron]

@green fiber Have you noticed any fluid changes in 1.2 yet?

[green fiber]

none. same old pipes

[ornate saffron]

cool cool.

ive been pretty confident with pipes for a while now, Most my issues are user issues these days.

[leaden turret]

no t-junction specific quirks / advantages / disadvantages vis-a-vis recommendations in le plumbing manual?

[green fiber]

ive not done any special tests for the t junction and i dont expect them to be magically different

[ornate saffron]

i just kinda assumed the t junction is literally just the normal one with a input cut off lol

[green fiber]

it likely uses the same base class

[ornate saffron]

I have limited coding knowledge but i assume the simplest path with least amount of issues was taken to creat the T junction

[unborn moss]

Without any other fluid updates known, the T junction is probably safe to assume as just being a visual thing

[spiral summit]

whats new in the 1.2 experimental or smn i cant check cause im rly busy

[nocturne warren]

this game just keeps getting better and better

[unborn moss]

The video from the devs covers it and is a lot more fun than reading 😄

[nocturne warren]

watching it right now and its really interesting

[knotty bear]

#screenshots message

Is this a glitch?

[ornate saffron]

best read in #patch-notes

but the TLDR is random nodes.

part multipliers as a new game setting

truck rework. You now wet up paths like train rail

zooping signs

[leaden turret]

portaloo

[ornate saffron]

oh ya toilet spawn points

[leaden turret]

^my suggestion

[ornate saffron]

i like there is more then just depots for mercersphers now. Though i supoose you can depot .... waste there

[leaden turret]

-# power sharts

[nocturne warren]

do you guys think there will be more decorative stuff coming to the game that wasnt announced in the video

like fans and other decorative stuff we got last time

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

new headgear it seems

[nocturne warren]

oh cool

[leaden turret]

they said previously that everything expected to go live with main release is gonna be in the exp release, so if there's no new decor, then there's no new decor

[nocturne warren]

aw, i feel like the game could use some new things

[leaden turret]

@open bone new merch?

[knotty bear]

My fake jetpack has now duplicated

[leaden turret]

https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/possible-features/decor/

[ornate saffron]

in the stream the talked about the possibly adding more peaceful creatures in the future to add vibes

a lizard catto would be cool

[unborn moss]

More Beans?

[real shale]

kidney beans when

[leaden turret]

October 18th, 2022
Q&A: Will there ever be a Lizard Catto?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdAKp4EfVk

no

[ornate saffron]

shhhhh you

[spiral summit]

whats this daisy chain thing

[real shale]

Okay but does the lizard doggo have a butthole or cloaca

[leaden turret]

FICSIT-approved power management change to discourage Pioneers from pole dancing

[leaden turret]

how do you think the hat stays on

[supple canopy]

actually that wasn't it, i just put ionzed fuel in my jetpack for the first time and it has that side effect

[ornate saffron]

ah, feather that fuel for max effect

[supple canopy]

yea i know, been using biofuel only until now for that

[unborn moss]

Directly connecting powerlines between buildings (ie smelters) without needing poles.

[knotty bear]

#screenshots message
bar

[spiral summit]

oh thats going to make things so much prettier

what does the cross beam look like

[sick falcon]

just installed factorio anything i should know before i start

[low ingot]

it was nice knowing you 🫡

[modest nest]

does the node randomization make them spawn in random locations or just randomize what nodes spawn at the preset locations?

[low ingot]

make sure to call in work tomorrow

[primal crypt]

yes flamingo make a BP for all the blowy up stuff include a tank and gas greanades..

[prime orchid]

Would it be a bad idea to create a mega base where each item i need to produce is on one floor obviously with logistic floors underneath

I mean all basic to mid level components

[sick falcon]

no its doable

[modest nest]

Basically comes down to does that sound like a fun thing to do or not

[primal crypt]

i may have a scenn shot

[leaden turret]

or if pc is potato

[prime orchid]

At the moment I have a floor producing 20 modular frames a min and I’m going to automate all steel items next

[modest nest]

eh, some people enjoy getting their games to run at 1 fps

[leaden turret]

-# cough @grave burrow cough

[prime orchid]

I am upgrading my gpu in a few weeks just waiting for a raise from work then ima do it but my 1060 is working hard bless it

[spiral summit]

the universal path is going to be amazing

[knotty bear]

Will DLSS 5 be implemented (I have to clarify this is a joke)

[leaden turret]

laughs in remembering when I barely got 30fps on 980

[spiral summit]

so now i dont even need to record paths i can just use my existing road

[leaden turret]

after snow biome

[prime orchid]

I’m struggling to get 30 fps on 1060 idk why is it a me issue

[knotty bear]

Y'all I used to run an igpu but never tried this game, intel integrated graphics 510.
I got a 2060 though.

[leaden turret]

graphics potato unit

[sick falcon]

thats it?

[knotty bear]

I think I make like 5 per minute.

[prime orchid]

To be fair it is a loaner card from a friend stripped my pc down to sell parts for a upgrade spent the money I made on a motorcycle and now I’ve got half a good pc and a loaner gpu r7 5700x 32 go gddr 4 and a 1060 it’s so cursed

[prime orchid]

No I have other factory’s and I’m about to unlock trains but I want to try get stuff to a central hub with a mall

[spiral summit]

hold on now that the fluid trucks actually attach to the vehicle

does that mean that the crane for normal trucks doesnt clip into it at an awkward angle?

[prime orchid]

If you mean modular frames I’ve been doing fine with that amount and I’m just about to unlock trains as we speak

[ornate saffron]

You're doing great.

[sick falcon]

you are about to get a reality check through the skull when you unlock heavy modular frames

[native stream]

where would a good location for tier 5 + 6 be?

desert?

[spiral summit]

damn no show of that cross beam

in the trailer

[celest hatch]

Anyone else having trouble selecting ammo in the Rebar gun if you can't reload the current ammo on Controller? I was playing (1.1) on my Steam Deck and I noticed when I ran out of Explo Rebar, I couldn't switch to regular until I grabbed more of the same type

[primal crypt]

@sick falcon posted my Bp in off tpoic that one is meant for right after making nialous boot strap base.

[knotty bear]

Is there some command I can use to set the weather

[spiral summit]

can anyone describe to me what the cross beam looks like pls

[leaden turret]

like a beam with angry eyebrows

[modest nest]

does the node randomization make them spawn in random locations or just randomize what nodes spawn at the preset locations?

[hearty marlin]

if i make 240 ore per minute, i need to match that with the melters right?

[spiral summit]

oh is it diagonal

[leaden turret]

(I joking)_

[celest hatch]

You can just not use it all. The miner will just spin down when it's full.

Or you can sink it. OR use it for something that isn't a smelter.

[sick falcon]

i dont think you can sink raw ore

[ornate saffron]

Anywhere that has the resources you need to be honest. I tend to break it up. Building fuel platic and rubber wherever the oil is. I tend to make ACU there too as you need computers for that.

[spiral summit]

i guess ill have to wait until my exams are over to play 1.2 💔

[vernal walrus]

Absolutely can

[celest hatch]

You absolutely can, it's just not worth practically anything pretty much immediately.

[ornate saffron]

Good call.

Mayhaps the biggest bugs will be squashed by then

[celest hatch]

You can especially use it to get rid of excess uranium ore in your logistics setups

[native stream]

i have one a fuel source just east of grassy fields. i am open to ideas if whether i need to improve it? would you recommend i setup trucks just to transport things a bit easier?

[sick falcon]

major helldivers darktide and satisfactory updates all dropping while im on spring break and dont have my pc 💔

[spiral summit]

god i really want to know what those cross beams look like but i deleted steam to lock in and i dont feel like doing allat rn

where are the unemployed wiki writers when you need them?

[ornate saffron]

I recommend trying a little of everything if this is your first playthrough. Find out what you like

[hearty marlin]

ohh like the tickets

[native stream]

i’ll try go out in the desert. might be a good location for plastic?

and maybe fuel

[primal crypt]

geo theramal is under rated its just enogh to kick the can down the road until phase 4

[ornate saffron]

Plastic is made where the oil is. No oil in the dunes.

[spiral summit]

its just there to look cool and to unlock a few hard drives

[native stream]

hm.. then i’d be looking east to where i would be setting up my other foundry

because coal is there

[spiral summit]

but you are right it added an extra little kick whilst i was busy skipping fuel power entirely

[ornate saffron]

The big oil locations are west coast. North coast and blue crater. There is other locations to though

[spiral summit]

my body wants to sleep but my brain craves the cross beam

[primal crypt]

its 7K averge power and it veries allot less then wiki says. can smoth it out with 6 batterys.

[native stream]

oh, ok. thanks. do you recommend i start using trucks to automate?

[ornate saffron]

Same. Im passing out but I crave 1.2 data.

[native stream]

or is it too late in the game for that

[ornate saffron]

I cannot make a recommendation on trucks.

I cannot drive them. I have friends setup my routes

[leaden turret]

1.2 has new pathing mechanic tho

[native stream]

but are they viable? or would i be better off with trains?

[ornate saffron]

Im aware.

[leaden turret]

can you build trains?

[spiral summit]

someone has already made floating trucks

[ornate saffron]

They are viable absolutely. Its a matter preference

The best thing about trucks is that the only need fuel and two stations. You dont need to set up a tone of foundations or make a bunch of rail

[ornate saffron]

Ill be excited when 1.2 hits main branch

🙂

[primal crypt]

You need both. trains are better for longer distances sence you dont have to setup fuel and thier fast. Trucks are good for pulling things in biome to a central area. cleanly.

[spiral summit]

you can always build absolutely nothing but conveyors

the choice is yours

[leaden turret]

if you don't like the UI/UX when it hits main branch, is shooting yourself in the foot to have not tried it on EXP and given feedback

[dense violet]

sure, just plan around them

like every other logistic option

[ornate saffron]

I may give experimental a try in a month or so.

But im not ready it

[native stream]

i just want a change from the repetition of conveyors.

unsure what i’ll use them for

[ornate saffron]

Then thats all that matter. Just dig in

[primal crypt]

its all a design choice can move objects with any meathod.

[native stream]

does it accept coal as a fuel source?

[spiral summit]

it accepts anything as a fuel source

[primal crypt]

yes can souppprt over 14 route with one normal node.

[native stream]

alright

i’ll look into the trucks then. thanks

[primal crypt]

you dump your fuel coal into the loading area.

and you dont have to fuel the other end

[spiral summit]

oh well ill find out what the cross beam looks like soon enough

[ornate saffron]

A plutonium fuel rod provides 5h 33min of run time for a truck

[primal crypt]

i will say for most things tracktors are the better truck.

[dense violet]

... that doesn't sound right.

last I heard it was more than 7hrs

[unreal sand]

Remove the 67 >:(

[fringe ginkgo]

how much time has to pass from experimental to go live?

[ornate saffron]

Fixed. Copied wrong line

[ornate saffron]

Months. No set time as of yet

[tall lantern]

"when it's ready" basically

[sullen stream]

how to play satisfactory 1.2?

[tall lantern]

opt into experimental in your game launcher

[leaden turret]

presumably it should be baked well in time for them to take their well-deserved summer vacations

[ornate saffron]

Backup your saves a blueprints

[sullen stream]

Why is it being deleted?

[tall lantern]

hopefully not, but a) it's Experimental, it's buggy, anything can happen, and b) you cannot carry saves or blueprints backward from 1.2 to 1.1

if you decide you want to back out but didn't keep a save from 1.1, then tough luck, can't go back to that save til you go back onto 1.2

[vapid jay]

later this year, according to the announcement video

[dense violet]

I still could have sworn that was uranium rods xD not plut.
thought plut was more lik 7.5 hrs

[primal crypt]

i just need my mods to be updated and the major day 1 errors found.

[tall lantern]

i imagine you'll be waiting a while for that

[primal crypt]

not giveing up curve mod for anything.

[sullen stream]

How do I save my saves?

[tall lantern]

folder's in #faq

just back it up like you normally back up your important stuff

[ornate saffron]

You maybe right. I cannot see the whole chart at once on my phone lol.

Im also kinda passing out on the couch.

[hard bough]

4h23m.

That's how long it took to unlock daisy chain without placing a single machine.

[upper ibex]

whats AB_Cable mod and why would it prevent me from playing the exp branch?

[ornate saffron]

It doesnt recognize the game version

[upper ibex]

is there a fix known or not yet?

[ornate saffron]

And the game version doesnt recognize it

[ornate saffron]

There will not be for a while yet. Its up to the individual mod makers to fix the mods

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[upper ibex]

but im not using mods?

im just launching the vanilla game

[dense violet]

at some point you did

[ornate saffron]

Did you not just say you use AB cable mod

[dense violet]

and there's left over bits

[upper ibex]

no i said its in the pop up i am getting while launching the vanilla game tru steam

[primal obsidian]

wait so for randomized nodes do we know if it’ll keep the amount of each ore the same and only change locations

like there’s 3 modes of uranium so they change location but there’s still 3 nodes

[ornate saffron]

In to tired . Im miss reading stuff. I apologize. Imma sleep.

[mighty zinc]

Aha!

Fixed the power issue!

My wrench is the new MJOLNIR! I have the POWER!

[lethal sandal]

hey, anyone got any ideas why mk1 pipes aint pipeing right?

[mighty zinc]

eh?

[lethal sandal]

i got enough fuel gens at 120m^3/min and its produceing 160m^3/min and only outputing 80

the math aint mathing

[dense violet]

overhead image in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 , it's basically impossible to dianose pipes w/o images

[lethal sandal]

you fine if i poke you?

[dense violet]

just post there and it'll work out

[lethal sandal]

👍

[primal obsidian]

almost 280 hours in the game

[hazy topaz]

How do I turn on weather in 1.2?

nvm im blind lol

[frosty bison]

Map stamps gone in experimental builds?

[analog jetty]

Where do I go to report bugs for the experimental build?

[dense violet]

a lot of map stuff changes with updates
usually slugs respawn and other thigns

[dense violet]

#faq

[lethal sandal]

the slugs will rule the earth

[dense violet]

or at least the boulders and trees they sit on

[mossy flicker]

Just wanna drop by and say, thank you devs for the funniest video ever made about Satisfactory

[primal obsidian]

i wanted to build a small factory on this multiplayer server to make ficsite trigons but apparently theres no RCU for converters and now i have to build an RCU factory since i dont wannt leave this factory unfinished

[smoky flame]

Daisy chain power is fantastic, lights already daisy chain, what else already daisy chain?

[primal obsidian]

batteries

[lethal sandal]

double the batterie budget

imagine if we had solar to with batteires

[modest nest]

Can we actually randomize the location of nodes?

or just like which type of node spawns in the set locations

[mystic crag]

What does a zooped sign do

[lethal sandal]

zoop

[mossy flicker]

Node locations are set. It's the contents that are randomized.

[unborn moss]

Same thing a zooped wall or foundation does.

[mystic crag]

Oh okay

[weak pendant]

Hi, is it safe to start a save on experimental to then continue on... regular?

[dense violet]

no

saves aren't backwards compat

[unborn moss]

It will probably be safe to continue with regular 1.2 when it releases. But not guaranteed at all.

[tall lantern]

it's been fine every other time, saves always carry forward

[dense violet]

if you make an exp save it wil work in 1.2

[lethal sandal]

how long do dev branches usualy take?

[tall lantern]

you can't take a save from 1.2 (live or experimental) back to 1.1, but you can take a 1.1 save or a 1.2 exp to 1.2 live

[tall lantern]

a few months on average

[lethal sandal]

👍

[mystic crag]

Make a copy of your regular, if you really want to continue rehular after experimental

[mossy flicker]

Save into a different name, problem avoided.

[analog jetty]

I randomly spawned in third person, how do I go back to first?

[limpid cairn]

Small question

They changed fluid mechanics right?

[dense violet]

nothing in the notes about that

[limpid cairn]

Is the holy plumber still up to date?

[limpid cairn]

I haven’t played the game in a year

[dense violet]

as there's nothing ni the patch notes about changes in fluids the pipe manual will be about as accurate as it was before

[limpid cairn]

Okay

[celest hatch]

Question. Now that priority mergers are in the game, can you safely overclock a particle accelerator making the Turbo Diamond recipe to 250% with a load balanced setup like in #screenshots provided you split out the inputs, merge back in 2 mk6 belts, and provide some starting buffer?

(running experimental but this should be a thing in current release build too)

cref: #screenshots message

It seems to be working, at least until I ran out of coal (using give item in creative)

[dense violet]

very hard to tell what you're doing there

but you could always safely do that as long as you put the right parts pm on the belt - single input sushi belts have existed a long time

[celest hatch]

Trying to provide 1500 Coal to a machine and 100 Packaged Turbofuel and the machine - particle accelerator - has only 2 inputs.

[dense violet]

yup, and before pmergs you could feed all 4 inputs in a manufacturer in one input

so ... maybe this works? but its certainly a more complicated option

[celest hatch]

right but, usually, i think you'd run into a problem w/o a priority merger given it has 2 inputs

[dense violet]

no? I've seen a whole uranium rod factory run with machines being fed with 1 input and multi items

[celest hatch]

right but im going well beyond mk6 belt limit??

[wise junco]

I don't understand a legitimate use case for pmergers... not being smart, just I don't see how it is advantageous truly over a regular merger in a well-running system

[celest hatch]

I "split off" 20 turbo fuel back into it's own storage to simulate it being 100 turbo fuel/min with a mk2 belt. In a real setup you would just limit the packaged turbofuel production to 100/min and that would be redundant

[dense violet]

there isn't really any -except people wouldn't shut up about it

basically any set up you could do with a pmerg you could could do with smart splitters in a slightly dif way

[celest hatch]

Is it possible to sushi a train, or will you usually run into an issue with either the storages or vehicle inventory slots always outputting in FILO order if the station or a container isn't emptied by the time a train comes around again?

[dense violet]

very easy to do sushi trains

just after your initial buffer have a smart splitter to individual buffers for each item

and a sink

[celest hatch]

it won't run into a problem with the FILO ordering as the buffers start to fill up?

[dense violet]

not if you ahve the throughput for it and an overflow sink

[celest hatch]

If the train is too short, how would you cap the throughput? Have the timetable only take X stacks or something?

[dense violet]

sorry not understanding the question - it really depends on how you're loading everything, is everything getting loaded at one station? or multi station sushi pickup?

[grave arch]

I have 50 hours in satisfactory, 2k in factorio and love me some x1000 in that game. I'm starting a x100 space cost, with default pure nodes. But I cannot decide for the life of me on 3 things.
-Starting location (always done grassy easy start)
-Power consumption cost
-recipe cost
I need some ideas

[dense violet]

starting locations aren't much different to each other and I really wouldn't do 100x space cost being new

the milestones are really a tutorial

[vapid jay]

would you not be able to get away with limiting input? underclock production machines or use splitters/balancers to get desired rate into the train without overfilling things at the unloading station

[celest hatch]

guess I never tried it before since I ran into so many issues when I tried to sushi a truck wayyy back when

[dense violet]

you really want to clock your machines to put exactly what you need on the train

[dense violet]

you probalby didn't have a sorter to individual item buffers and overflow to a sink

or you just didn't have enought throughput

[celest hatch]

idk if we had sinks yet tbf

[dense violet]

sinks have always existed I think?

[celest hatch]

Update 4?

[dense violet]

there's been byproduct before that would have been in u3 at min, prob in beta

[vapid jay]

i'm too lazy to figure things out so i've always ran a single item per transport on a train, and sunk the overflow on whichever end of the train needed it to keep everything running. the idea of a sushi belt and potentially needing to untangle it to keep the line running terrifies me

[celest hatch]

and the main thing i always want to do logistics on is usually raw resources and/or stage 1 processing (ingots, oil products)

[celest hatch]

right i think we had to burn off the petrol coke in coal gens back then? before 3.5?

[dense violet]

I mean it's pretty simple, if you ever feel like doing it just ping me or ask most vaguely experienced people here

[dense violet]

pretty sure resin was around in u3 too though

can't burn that

I was in u3 and I remember sinks

[celest hatch]

uh, you've never tried to burn petrol coke in a coal gen?

[wise junco]

I feel like sushi belts would be hard later-game due to belt per-minute restrictions... does that usually get in the way or are there more niche applications that it's useful for?

[dense violet]

always sunk it.

[celest hatch]

it's free power until you get the better fuel stuff

[dense violet]

no easy enough later, because manufacturer recipes tend to use low parts per min and you have fast belts

[dense violet]

so is coal power and I don't like mixing item production and power

[wise junco]

yeah, that's true I suppose. really just basic level stuff needing the high throughput huh? meaning mostly ingot prod

[dense violet]

kinda? but also those items are often single input

you can sushi assemblers though fairly easily too though

[wise junco]

truly just never gotten creative enough with my smart splitters

[dense violet]

sushi makes for some very clean logistics

1 belt vs 4 for manufacs? amazing

[vapid jay]

i have ~150hrs in my main save so i'm sure i could figure it out, but i appreciate the offer. seems like a headache to manage a sushi train, unless you're sorting each item into its own car prior to loading

[wise junco]

tell you what, my next manufacturer-level factory, I think I'm gonna give that a whirl

[dense violet]

well like sushi in general yo uwant to send exactly the parts per min , probably loaded from the same station for simplicity.

then at the other end you do the regular buffer, but another sort/buffer/sink step

it's a simple extra step 🙂

[wise junco]

i tried sushi belts VERY early in my play history and kind of scared off of them, but it was before i really understood most of the game mechanics

[dense violet]

it happens 🙂 it's why people have screw trauma, they didn't know how to manage them easily back at the start

[wise junco]

yeah, that make sense

i used sushi belts to bring back products to my main warehouse.. before i knew what DDs were. i found out about those way too late

[lethal citrus]

well gawt dang modless daisy chains and spawn points

[unkempt blade]

more recipes should use screws

[lethal citrus]

now do I want to start a new save with all pure nodes.....

[wise junco]

all*

[unkempt blade]

also 1.2 should remove rocket fuel from the game

[wise junco]

even the screw recipe should use screws

[dense violet]

pure nodes don't really make a dif until mk6 belts in any case

[unkempt blade]

maybe we could make rods from screws and then screws from rods and let the cycle go forever

[wise junco]

this warms my heart

[celest hatch]

[lethal citrus]

I forgot what DD stands for but y'all are flashing me back to the times I built screw factories that would serve as a screw input to other factories so they didn't have to make any

[unkempt blade]

that's just good logistics!

[lethal citrus]

I once paved over a chasm too use the nodes to make so many screws I need a train of like 10 cars to move them elsewhere

[unkempt blade]

nothing wrong with giving yourself a reason to use more trains!

[lethal citrus]

screw megafactories were fun until I started bypassing screws

but cast screws is still my favorite alt to get and the reason I go drive searching early, if not using a mod to have alts

[unkempt blade]

I've heard good things about wire megafactories if you need a change of pace

[wise junco]

so factory carts might fix me? 👉 👈

[unkempt blade]

you're perfect the way you are but they might help you feel better and manage your responsibilities better

[wise junco]

thank you, factory cart person. my night is made

[unkempt blade]

also, I'm not a doctor just a factory cart enthusiast

[leaden turret]

FcD

Factory cart Driver

[celest hatch]

why are Lookout towers, and presumably radar towers, ...zoopable? (they don't do anything when zooped)

[wise junco]

are you on experimental? i just tried on regular 1.1

[celest hatch]

lol woops, yes, forgot to switch channels

[unkempt blade]

sometimes you just need a row of watch towers for your own safety

[wise junco]

all good i was just mega confused

[hearty marlin]

how do i unlock the crashed ships?

[next folio]

Do you guys think that satisfactory should add the setting for the host? to explain it, i had the option to only conserve equipment on death, but my bud had the keep everything option, cant the host decide the settings? like, if the host decides to keep everything, everyone keeps everything, cuz its kinda botherin me that my bud keeps that thing

[unkempt blade]

you interact with one of the pieces and give it stuff to unlock

[dense violet]

boot your bud then

[hearty marlin]

oh ok

[unkempt blade]

It's not a pvp or competitive game. It doesn't really hurt anything to let other people play how they enjoy for at least the non-AGS settings. If it bothers you then communicate with your friend 🙂

[next folio]

yea, i respect that opinion, but as you have one, i think that if the host DOESNT want everyone to keep their things at death, then HE should decide that, and NOT the other ones, and if it bothers them, they can host their own world

[wise junco]

oh no no no, this is competitive AF. we build to win

[next folio]

its like playin hardcore minecraft but your friend is playing on normal survival with tp and keep inventory in the same world

[wise junco]

i hear the desire. i haven't heard anyone mention it before - might be more effective to just talk it out

[zenith bear]

Can someone explain how valves are helpful?

[wise junco]

they typically are not

[zenith bear]

I'm making a huge coal power plant, and I just don't see the use for them

[unkempt blade]

I guess I see that as more similar to AGS settings. If there's a "challenge" of some sort for the players to solve and the different setting/playstyle/whatever takes something away from the other players then that feels more like a "server rule" type thing. Maybe I just have a different take on how much someone cheesing respawns or whatever actually affects my enjoyment of the game

[dense violet]

you've accurately summarised valves yes

[wise junco]

I can also finish Cobalt's thought:

they typically introduce more problems than they solve

[zenith bear]

Weird

[dense violet]

people have made weird things with that can work
but basically there's always simpler options that work more reliably w/o them

[zenith bear]

Pipe manifolds

[dense violet]

there were there at the start probably as a 'hey, this is a thing you can see on pipes, lets throw them in here and see what people do with them'

and ... it's just not useful in the way the game is designed

[unkempt blade]

Also you should do a hardcore save in satis using the honor system. It's way easier than MC 😆

[next folio]

on how i see it, it affects my style of game, if i die, i lose everything, but they just pick up my things, die and they give it back to me, or just use them, and no, saying "dont grab my stuff" wouldnt work on a game where i have more than 4 ppl, cuz i cant js manage everyone

[wise junco]

if they aren't playing in your server the way you want them to play, you have every right to remove the people

[unkempt blade]

well if talking to them doesn't work then I guess the only solution left is to antagonize them by killing their characters when they go offline and putting all their items into the sink for sweet sweet coupons

[brisk mural]

Anyone know which weather preset is like the "default" for cycling between all the weather randomly, because I have no idea if the default setting even has weather and I don't think it does

[keen rover]

is anyone good at the new vehicle paths, mine keeps saying missing path even when i have one

[brisk mural]

Make sure the path is connected to the pause symbol on the station and make sure the truck is near the path network you're trying to add it to

[keen rover]

it is

[jagged nymph]

its possible youre experiencing a bug if it really is set up corectly

[keen rover]

oh nevermind, sorry, i drove straight ontop of it and now its working

[jagged nymph]

it is experimental, remember

[jagged nymph]

lol

[keen rover]

ig i wasen't close enough, i was like half a foundation away tho

thought it was close enough

[brisk mural]

Has to be right on kinda weird but eh

I've been pushing the system pretty hard, booted up 1.2 and replaced like 10 trucks using the same road

[jagged nymph]

oh nice theres a fog density slider now, ive been using the console command lol

[brisk mural]

Seems really stable for experimental

[unkempt blade]

does the new route system still work well with skatepark foundations and jumppads?

[jagged nymph]

yeah i havnt noticed any bugs yet

[keen rover]

do intersections work well? like will trucks wait for another one to pass?

[jagged nymph]

im glad they improved vehicle suspension too

[brisk mural]

Idk, the routes stick to the ground and probably have constraint issues with that

[brisk mural]

Extremely

[jagged nymph]

what does "recipe parts cost multiplier" do actually

[unkempt blade]

the old system lets you launch the carts during the route 🙁

[jagged nymph]

i havnt tested it out

[brisk mural]

The new system is functionally trains

[unkempt blade]

oh no!

[brisk mural]

Sucks for fun builders, but It's a godsend for my practically oriented save

[jagged nymph]

yeah, trucks have always supposed to be an early game version of trians, but now they really are

[bleak valley]

I mean if you never update the old routing maybe the skate parks will stay in tact

[brisk mural]

They've been upgraded to a real option mainly for aesthetic and design purposes

Truck go beep

[jagged nymph]

i like that you can change resource node purity too, i wanna see what crazy stuff people do with all pure nodes

[unkempt blade]

I like setting up routes in my skateparks and having carts run them 24x7 for my enjoyment

[brisk mural]

Real

[jagged nymph]

i wonder why they decided to make the respawn point a toilet lol

[brisk mural]

I like the trucks staying for the minimum wait time to load an unload, maximizes movement

[brisk mural]

Memes

[jagged nymph]

ig

wait can you flush stuff in the spwn toilet too

[keen rover]

i like how its similar to the one in the hub too, and thats also where you would normally respawn

[royal mist]

Hey dudes, I want to make a back up save folder in the saved games directory. Will that be ok or will it fuck things up?

[jagged nymph]

@feral jay they added your pause button if you didnt notice

[dense violet]

I would really put it somewhere else entirely

[undone peak]

Spend 2 hours making sub section factory’s for iron and copper

[royal mist]

ill put it on a thumb drive and hide that in a sock

[dense violet]

if you want

[jagged nymph]

it shouldnt but i would move it somewhere else just in case

[brisk mural]

Should be fine

I keep mine there

[royal mist]

thanks

[unkempt blade]

they got tired of all the multi-thousand-hour degenerates around here using a gamer bucket because they can't stop rebuilding the same factory for 2min to go bio

[jagged nymph]

i lowk went to sleep right after the stream so im just now reading the patch notes n stuff

[bleak valley]

I think when I get home I’ll move my new save to expeirmental

Daisy chaining machines is so worth it

[jagged nymph]

yaeh, but you have to unlock it in the mam in phase 3

[unkempt blade]

just make sure you empty your gamer bucket before you get too involved

[jagged nymph]

it needs computers and high speed connectors

[bleak valley]

of course its phase 3

That’s a good timing

Still plenty of suffering by wires until it’s unlocked

[jagged nymph]

YEAHHH YOU CAN FLUSH STUFF IN THE SPWN TOILET

[jagged nymph]

wait its not flushing

[brisk mural]

NOOOOOOOOO

[jagged nymph]

you can only store it in the toilet

[bleak valley]

Extra storage

Only the most important items go in the toilet

[knotty bear]

I have a sushi belt, what's the best method to ensure it doesn't back up a dimensional depot if I want to upload to a dimensional depot?

[jagged nymph]

new cross beam looks nice

[jagged nymph]

smart splitters

thats infact the only way. Smart or programmable splitter

[bleak valley]

I think a sushi belt is probably a poor way to feed a single depot but if your feeding a line of them it’s probably fine

[knotty bear]

k so with smart splitter how do I make sure it can just keep feeding it things without giving it more than it could take.

[brisk mural]

You can't feed a depot multiple items

[jagged nymph]

you cant upload multiple items to the same depot

[knotty bear]

I am feeding 1 depot as that is what I can afford. The sushi belt goes to my sorting system after the depot.

[bleak valley]

You can’t take items out of a depot automatically so if it goes over by one it gets clogged immediately

[jagged nymph]

i mean you can try but its not gonna work

you have to have 1 or more depots per item

[bleak valley]

I’d either manually upload items with it or wait until you can get more

[jagged nymph]

love the t junction

[bleak valley]

I love real pausing

[hearty marlin]

bro i just found out about ahard drives after building of the biggest factories in my entire lige

do they spawn in a fixed spot or change?

[dense violet]

fixed

[bleak valley]

I just saw a post about it a smelter was taking 60 ore in and only giving 30 ingots out.

So on 2x you get half the output basically

[hearty marlin]

hmmm

[jagged nymph]

wh.... what

you can make it go up to 100 i think.....

[bleak valley]

It was copper ore to be specific

[jagged nymph]

time for 20,000 copper powder and 100 pcc for one pasta!!!

[bleak valley]

That one guy doing 10x elevator parts doesn’t even have to mod anymore lmao

[jagged nymph]

but remember that 20,000 copper powder and pcc, each step in production is another 100x

[jagged nymph]

no no, hes doing 1000x. You still cant do that in vanilla

i dont think anyones beating the game on max.... whatever you call those settings anytime soon

[bleak valley]

Oh jeez

[bleak valley]

Let me beat the game vanilla first then I’ll go for it

[zenith bear]

I finished my power plant. The pipelines are something else

#design-and-architecture message

[wise junco]

good job!!

[jagged nymph]

MY MODSSSS NOOOOOO

[frail sleet]

If that is the case, it will inherit the junction bug

[ivory condor]

Same the pipe logic of 1.1 applies to 1.2 as well

Aka keep looping those manifolds

[spare prism]

Oh hey that's me

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[spare prism]

Honestly I'll take the vanilla 100

But I did the other max stuff to like 5x power requirement and 2x part stuff 🤣

[cunning glade]

Idk where I wanna spawn for random nodes tbh

They all seem appealing with it

[crystal void]

did anyone figure out what was going on with the weather?

[spare prism]

Dune desert best map

[wise junco]

All pures? All impures 😇

[unique raft]

Hey is there a specific channel to ask for advice? Particularly on train lines? And on console?

[hearty marlin]

yo anyone up?

[royal mist]

no

[ornate saffron]

#math-and-meta

[ornate saffron]

Kinda

[unique raft]

Alright thanks

[hearty marlin]

so how does being kinda up work exactly

[ornate saffron]

Ive been fading in and out of consciousness for a few hours.

Hurt my back slipping on the ice. Much discomfort

[hearty marlin]

on ice?

[cunning glade]

My thought but kinda water limited no? Ig there's the water on the outskirts?

[jagged nymph]

NOOO THEY REMOVED MY GHOST NODE

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WH YWH Y

[ornate saffron]

Yes. It is winter. Much ice everywhere still

[cunning glade]

Wym

[jagged nymph]

there was a pure limestone node that you could place a miner on but it didnt actually exist visually

and they removed it

[cunning glade]

No way

[jagged nymph]

so i have to redo some stuff

[cunning glade]

Ur lying

@mortal ginkgo

Do you know about this?

[jagged nymph]

impure prolly likes that tho he only enjoys impure limestone nodes

[cunning glade]

No he said he had a factory using that iirc

[jagged nymph]

oh

[cunning glade]

And so do i

[jagged nymph]

yeah lots of people did

[cunning glade]

We were just talking about hopefully it doesn't get removed

[jagged nymph]

why was this not in the patch notes

[ornate saffron]

Patch notes are seldom "complete" i feel.

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

They try but the total staff is 40 ppl. Ten of which are accountants.

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont want to believe it but I can understand if it happened.

It is the only place that the ore patch is clearly not there yet the location is there. Northwest also got a LOT of pure limestone nodes.

I didnt check it but I will next time I open the game. I assume miner is still working...

[jagged nymph]

double that is working on just the race event 🥀 🥀 🥀

[spare prism]

Yea or you can challenge your self and build in the water with the plants

[jagged nymph]

@mortal ginkgo there should be a search for a seed with all impure limestone nodes

[cunning glade]

Def will then ight

[ornate saffron]

Can't you choose to spawn only impure nodes?

[jagged nymph]

yeah, but we still need to hunt for an all limestone seed for that

[mortal ginkgo]

you can set it all impure, as it should be