satisfactory

[real shale]

And as for pre particle enrichment the alt recipe for rocket fuel doesn't require nitric acid so there's that, which is why I am dedicated to making a singular bottle of ionised fuel before I get particle accelerators :P

[deft drum]

Damnit, looked at the wrong one in the MAM page of the wiki lmao

Oh boy 100 shards just to unlock it

[real shale]

Yeahhhhh

I want rocket fuel just for the jetpack anyway, not necessarily for power.....although I might end up plopping one in the swamp alongside my nuclear power plant

[fluid sapphire]

Why stop at a single bottle when you could make a whole container full of it

[real shale]

Because that's a lot of my finite power shards

[fluid sapphire]

A regular container takes just about 1000 power shards, which isn't that many

[twin sinew]

hearing some forbidden knowlege rn

[deft drum]

If you use somersloops there's 5301 maximum power shards worth of slugs on the map

[fluid sapphire]

Sloop both the shard production and ionized fuel production ofc

By the time you actually conceivably use that many you probably have them automated

[twin sinew]

nah i got that bit spoiled by a yt video

not talking to me huh

[fluid sapphire]

Still, making a few stacks of it at least is not that costly

It's just hard to go back once you get used to it

What knowledge? What spoilers?

[twin sinew]

must have been the wind

[fluid sapphire]

The moral of the story is, eat your veggies and pick up those power slugs you see

[twin sinew]

yarharhar

i be plundering

[normal orbit]

think you can get 5302 shards from slugs if you sloop em all

[sterile blade]

Now you're thinking with portals shards

[sterile blade]

You might wanna avoid clocking a slooped Ionized Fuel machine to the max... After a certain pioint, the machine just goes idle and the extra clock goes to waste (possibly "wasting" one shard, how scary)

Oh no, wait, it was the other way around! One has to clock it higher than expected, because it keeps idling after each production cycle when slooped (as it outputs more than half a "stack" of fluid)

[zenith pecan]

Sounds nasty!

[sterile blade]

Yeah, that was an unexpected issue I had to fix, as I kept running out of Ionized Fuel. The nominal output isn't reached if it keeps going idle, so one has to overshoot

[zenith pecan]

I'm doing something far more basic, a copper foundry so I have the ingots for 800 copper powder.

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I saw the plan. Just one big building or several?

[zenith pecan]

The foundry is one structure, I had to clock every foundry unit to make the beltwork managable due to how I brought the material in.

1200 of the 4800 ingots are ready to move onto the constructors, more belt work following, btw I fixed the sushi disaster at the turbo motor factory, no more regular splitter exactly dividing motors and rcu to one side or the other 🤣

[real shale]

Guys, refineries are my sleep paralysis demon now, is this normal

[true mulch]

Yes

Proceed with resource exploitation

[simple pebble]

Yeah that's accurate

[cunning glade]

I'm realizing that when I made all my train stations

I should've labeled how much is going into them cuz now I have too go back and do it for like 10 of them all at once

Also ionized fuel is wild for needing power shards and then only giving compacted coal as byproduct

Tho I think alt for them let's them use some dark matter stuff but then that's Sam iirc

[cunning glade]

Why cuz u need so many or how ungodly tall they are so they never fit in ur designs how u want lol

[real shale]

I need so many

[cunning glade]

Do u be ocing them?

Also fair u do be using them quite often

[real shale]

Nah, I like making full scale factories and avoiding OCing if I can avoid it

Only time I OC/UC is if I have a very odd figure im working with

[cunning glade]

Well so do I but when I need 1003 just for copper powder it be oc time

[zenith pecan]

Copper powder! yeah that's the bit I'm working on atm, must have sing cells again.

[cunning glade]

I still got a hot min before it pasta time unfortunately

[zenith pecan]

I'm only aiming for 800 copper powder though

[cunning glade]

Iirc 6000

Ye

[zenith pecan]

4800 ingots for it, I just completed the foundry for converting it so I don't suck all the nodes up.

[cunning glade]

Foundry why not refinery?

[cunning glade]

I need 36k

[zenith pecan]

Too far from water and I didn't feel like moving all the crap out and back again, and I have seen enough refineries to last a lifetime.

[surreal ingot]

I forgot you could do this lol
#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Once the bits are done for operations, I'll look in to making random spelevator parts for the lols.

[cunning glade]

Fair enough

[zenith pecan]

I'll be looking more towards bwds as opposed to more pasta though.

[cunning glade]

I'm just excited too get closer too beating the game for the first time

[zenith pecan]

Still means way more pastas ofc but the more complex the end product, the more coupons haha.

[cunning glade]

Also I feel asleep and now I can't find my good wax for dabs cuz I think I knocked it off the table

[cunning glade]

Nah I'm making 30 slooped too 60

So no more pasta needed

[zenith pecan]

I have some sloops reserved but the goal is a teleport network, what,s why I'm wanting 40 sing cells for operations.

[teal marsh]

im looking for someone to play with, im pretty much brand new so I suck but I have a little world that I just started

[cunning glade]

#1201555265942724758

[teal marsh]

ok..

[cunning glade]

Just the better place for it:)

[cunning glade]

I'm gonna be making 224 sing cells and I'm gonna sloop them so I have spare

For portals

[zenith pecan]

Bit excessive, are you aiming to chain portals all the way back to earth?

Stargate reference, sorry.

[unkempt blade]

That was a really good documentary. I learned a lot from it

[cunning glade]

Lol

No I'm doing 112 ficsonium fuel rods a min

Figured if I do nuclear I mine aswell go big or never do it

[zenith pecan]

The copper powder bit looks anticlimactic, just 16 machines to convert the mountain of ingots.

[unkempt blade]

just underclock until it becomes climactic!

[near frost]

Where can i report bugs?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @zenith pecan

[cunning glade]

What bug or issue? Just curious

[near frost]

there is a big hole at the side of the map

just a hole in the void

[tall lantern]

the map is finite, yes

[cunning glade]

I want them too fix the one where u jump in water well building something

[near frost]

i dont think that is a bug

[cunning glade]

And it forces u too pull back out the build menu Everytime u jump out

[weak bloom]

What's the keybind to tilt pipeline supports?

[cunning glade]

Till u actually get on land

[dense violet]

mouse wheel

[cunning glade]

So u have too walk ur ass back too shore

[dense violet]

tilts basically all tiltable objects

[cunning glade]

And u can't just fly out of the water it's so annoying

So Damm annoying when building over the water

[weak bloom]

That just turns it

[cunning glade]

Been meaning too make a post about it

[zenith pecan]

I just build when in the water.

[cunning glade]

Or thing never did

[dense violet]

depends which part of the build you're at, once you lock it in place you can tilt it

[cunning glade]

It's just annoying u can't touch the water with ur build gun out

[weak bloom]

Ohhh

[dense violet]

you can manipulate different objects between each click it takes to place

[cunning glade]

Or swim I should say

[zenith pecan]

Ways around that, that's how I completed my underwater sections of structures.

[dense violet]

keep an eye out on those multi click objects, you might be able to manipulate them more than you realise 🙂

[cunning glade]

Well sure there's prolly ways around it it shouldn't happen in the first place

[weak bloom]

Yeah that might have opened up a whole lot for me lmao

[dense violet]

and the mouse wheel does a ton in that department xD

[cunning glade]

But after 1.0 really the only bug I run into

[zenith pecan]

Hoverpack & build gun underwater, np 👍

[cunning glade]

Cuz before 1.0 there was quite a few

[cunning glade]

Idc about building underwater

[dense violet]

and we'll judge you on that

[zenith pecan]

🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

Only thing that I place underwater would be pipes

[zenith pecan]

No point moaning about water contact then.

[cunning glade]

Well yeah when there's a bug that shouldn't be happening I feel like it's okay too bitch

Tho I should've already made a post about it

[proud leaf]

i'm gonna make a copper factory near my iron factory good idea they are like 100 meters apart?

btw i'm at phase 1

[near frost]

yes

why not in early game you dont have much movement

[proud leaf]

hmm ok

[unkempt blade]

I'd just play the game and not worry about stuff being perfect. There's basically no way to lose or mess stuff up in a way that can't be changed

[spare prism]

hi

[vital quest]

How much miners/ power section should each coal powered generator support?

[normal orbit]

?

a coal gen makes 75mw, so whatever consumes that

[vapid zinc]

Am I stupid or is one of the pure Limestone nodes all the way in the north-west of the map removed?

Oh, miner just snaps to it. Guess it's just a visual bug

[austere fern]

hey all I just joined this discord for train help... anyone able to help me. I know I'm just missing one thing. Point to point... yes it has power...yes the stations seemed to be lined up withthe bump facing inside at the end of the line...

[zenith pecan]

Best bet is creating a thread in #1038092680493801533 , it will also let you post screenshots as requested, I'm particularly poor with trains so I cannot offer much help there personally.

[austere fern]

Thank you.

[undone ether]

im making 25,000 ish aluminum scrap per minute

on my 800 hour save

what do I do with all this

[native tapir]

Take it back

Building underwater is the best

[cunning glade]

i think its cool but at the time it didnt relate too the bug that i found annoying

unless that bug allows it but im pretty sure its different

[native tapir]

Which bug

[cunning glade]

the one where if ur building and fall in the water until u touch land u cant jump or fly out of the water cuz it forces u too open ur build menu everytime u are no longer in the water

u have too swim too shore

[native tapir]

Oh yeah. That one sucks. But you can escape out of ir

[cunning glade]

really annoying imo

[native tapir]

Just have to smash that escape key

[cunning glade]

i see

noted for the future

ty

[native tapir]

Like jump and rapid hit esc

[cunning glade]

ye

[zenith pecan]

Oh THAT bug, I misread what you was on about 🤦‍♂️

[cunning glade]

i think underwater builds are cool

[cunning glade]

yeah my bad had just smoked so if it wasnt clear my b

thats why i was like okay idc about underwater builds cuz this isnt related lol

[toxic spruce]

Guys, why are the green birds on the menu screen marching like the freaking army?

[weak tinsel]

Will 8 coal generators produce enough power to get me to the next fuel stage or should I do 16?

[toxic spruce]

Do 16

[south sinew]

you can do 8 but it's a bit tight

I'd only do that if doing 16 would mean having to go a really long way

[cunning glade]

It's the ficsit army they get sent after u if u aren't efficient enough

[cunning glade]

I do enough for what 3600mw I think

Yeah either 3600 or 2400

[south sinew]

1200 is usually sufficient imo

ah no, I think I mean 2400

[zenith pecan]

Oh, a slooped clocked PA is only pulling 3750.

[weak tinsel]

I'll do 16, that way I'm less likely to have to go back and ad more

[zenith pecan]

Oh wait nope, it just updated 15000 now 🤣

[sick falcon]

i actually despise that feature it makes me feel like i’m drowning

[cunning glade]

Id really do 24 cuz then ur even less likely too go back and add more

I did 16 this time and I ended up having too oc and sloop biomass till coal

Wasn't that bad but I wish I did more

That's only what 360 coal?

I believe they take 15 a min it's been a min since coal tho

[weak tinsel]

I think my biomass grid blew for the 36th time which sucks because I need the iron line to build the coal power plant

I now have to manually craft 7 stacks of biomass to get it online again

[sick falcon]

why on earth do people build so much infrastructure that they need 7 stacks of biomass before coal

[weak tinsel]

Uhhh, concrete, copper products and all iron products, 1-3 miners per production chain and 2 awesome sinks doing nothing

Well I'm not making modular frames

[sick falcon]

i wish nuclear plants were more modular instead of one huge building

[white dawn]

I think that the mod Refined Power adds in stuff like that, though it's also obvs a pretty big overhaul to power in general

[sterile blade]

Like... Turbines separated from the rod-burner?

[white dawn]

Well, especially with belt-fed burners, it's honestly not difficult to set up systems that mostly-automatically run like 12 burners

[sick falcon]

yea so i can customize it more instead of just a line of giant concrete cones

[sick falcon]

is it compatible with satisfactory plus

i was gonna play that one once i finish the game vanilla

[remote siren]

came back to satisfactory after almost 2yrs. hell, a lot changed. dimensional storage is a huge QoL

the last time i played the spheres didnt had any use

[real shale]

I think satisfactory plus includes refined power if I'm not mistaken

[elder salmon]

It's listed as not only included but reworked to better fit SF+

[white dawn]

Heh, was about to say no idea, but it seems Kaedys has better into than me. :)

[elder salmon]

Ya, from the mod page:

Automatically Included (Modified for SF+)
Refined Power — heavily reworked
Ficsit Farming — rebalanced and integrated
Fluid Extras — integrated content
Blueprint Designer Plus

[elder salmon]

Throw this on the pile https://ficsit.app/mod/AutoSolidBioFuel if you want to simplify the production. Doesn't require power, either, so good for bootstrapping a blown grid

[white dawn]

It's good stuff, for sure! Also somersloops. :D

[white dawn]

Heh, thanks! Though I have no desire to simplify production or use mods with this game, so I'm unlikely to use. :)

[elder salmon]

a lot of mods can imbalance the game. Some are just insanely handy QOL features, though

[white dawn]

(I've got no problems with modding and use mods on other games quite often, but I haven't used mods in Satisfactory since Update 3. :)

[proud leaf]

guys i made a copper factory i put it in #screenshots is it good or bad?

[ornate saffron]

does it produce the parts you need?

[zenith pecan]

The most important bit, is does it do what you need of it right now? , looks early game so you'll no doubt replace it in the future.

[proud leaf]

ye copper sheets wires and cables

[proud leaf]

its just kinda uneven bc i don't think copper sheets will be used

I GOT A PROBLEM WITH EVERYTHING HAVING TO BE EVEN

IDK WHAT"S WRONG WITH ME

😭

[ornate saffron]

then is perfect.

A man can spend his life lookiong for the perfect cherry blossom to only realize.
They are all perfect

[remote siren]

somersloops are nasty too, i just use a few in temporary stuff

if i need some supply fast of something

[zenith pecan]

Perfect is the enemy of good, don't focus too much on trying perfection, progress, and do all the prettying up and decoration much later on.

[sick falcon]

can you automate killing enemies with a truck loop

[ornate saffron]

in theory.... but you'd have to pick up the remains AND keep the area in view distance as the game only renders what is in the pioneers vision

[ornate saffron]

If you want to discuss your screen shots #screenshots is a poor place to do so.

#design-and-architecture is a great place for decor discussion and #math-and-meta is great for numbers and such

[sick falcon]

ah that’s a shame

[proud leaf]

hmm thank you

[proud leaf]

but if they are all perfect none of them are

[ornate saffron]

Counter point function is perfect. time to move on and build more

[proud leaf]

ye i agree i just wanted to say my fav movie line

[ornate saffron]

well if ywe are going there

"Where we are going we don't need eyes to see"

[proud leaf]

hmm i have no idea where its from

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[proud leaf]

still don't know

[tidal drum]

Super dumb question: what’s the best efficient way to siphon an item away from existing production line to keep it to use to send spaceship?

For example, I need iron plates but all existing iron plates are joined and linked to other constructors in the factory

Just put a splitter and half it into a container?

[zenith pecan]

When dealing with chains, I get the multiple factories involved operating first, then backtrack to decorate, that's why I have had 4-6 working skeletons at a time.

I wondered why my copper powder facility seemed to be starving on one line, tracked it back to a non-clocked miner ~whoops!

[simple pebble]

Smart splitter with an overflow

[ornate saffron]

same

[simple pebble]

(at least, if you are producing more of the components than you're strictly using)

[white dawn]

I'm going to kind of sidestep your question a bit to offer my own recommendation: don't siphon existing production! Make new production for your new purpose, instead. It's quite a bit easier than trying to make everything interdependant

You'll end up making (using your example) Iron Plates in many dozens of factories all over the place, but it'll be a lot more straightforward in the long run

In the early game it's not too bad to manage stuff if you're linking factories together like that, but I suspect you'll find it'll quickly become overwhelming as you go through the game and unlock more and more stuff

[zenith pecan]

Tbh, you only take from existing production, if you alreay planned ahead for that requirement, otherwise you slow the new production to a starving crawl (edit~ clarification)

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you do centralize production to some degree (like making a bunch of Iron Plates which a bunch of other factories can feed from), I'd highly recommend doing so with dedicated machines providing the exports. Like these five machines send Plates over to X, the next three send Plates to Y, etc.

[pastel tiger]

@proud leaf if you want to finish this phase you need alot more then 30 copper/min

[white dawn]

If you're gonna centralize, having dedicated machines for each export will simplify things greatly

[zenith pecan]

Some productions I'm isolating to their own lines, such as concrete and plates for sings.

[proud leaf]

good thing i'm collecting alot of power slugs

[white dawn]

(Not that you'd necessarily have to plan that stuff in advance; could just have a bank of machines producing and sending their output to a sink. But then when something does need some of the material, you decide which of those machines provides the export and then set it up)

[proud leaf]

i am on my POWER SLUGS ADVENTURE

[pastel tiger]

sure thing but i dont recommand relaying on them

[ornate saffron]

ther eis much copper on the map. build more when you need more where you need it

[zenith pecan]

I can resume work on that now I found why my copper powder that was supposed to be 800ppm was actually 640 🤣

[proud leaf]

problem the more copper is more far away right now i want copper iron to be close together bc they are my main resource

[zenith pecan]

I have a lot of available copper at least, that canyon coke plant for tempered caterium and copper actually freed up a lot.

[ornate saffron]

there is SO much iron aand copper together

the grass lands alone has 9 copper nodes All of which are really close to iron

[proud leaf]

ye and that what i did

i have 3 iron miners going into my iron factory and 2 copper mk going into my copper factory noted one of the miner is more far away

[ornate saffron]

my point is there is little worry abouit copper and iron you can al;ways build mmroe

[surreal gorge]

Yall i just joined the discord. ive been a fan for awhile and ive had help from a friend but he isnt on. could someone help me with my power system on my world?

[pastel tiger]

solution
overclock the miner

[surreal gorge]

im recording a video and this is my first time playing so im so confused

[pastel tiger]

it my first time too
wait for oil 🙃

[ornate saffron]

Likely. Try #1038092680493801533 with details so we can help

[pastel tiger]

ho boy here i go build 60 refineres for my 20GW power plant

[proud leaf]

can u give me channel name?

[proud leaf]

nevermind its in your proifle

[surreal gorge]

i havent uploaded in awhile, got projects im working on for it

[surreal gorge]

ye lol

WAIT I FIXED IT

would anyone be down to join and help me?

[ornate saffron]

@ember escarp Im taking my nieces swimming then buit good luck

[burnt radish]

yo guys quick question is it worth training in water? or just build on site (near water)

[upbeat jacinth]

It’s a good thing to put on trains if you want an excuse for long ones

[burnt radish]

heh 😏

okay bet

[proud leaf]

guys is limestone gonna be a big thing late game

[burnt radish]

kinda? not really?

[proud leaf]

so small factory is good enough?

or only limestone

[surreal ingot]

you need it sometimes

[burnt radish]

like a bunch of small factories?

[proud leaf]

ye for each thing like factory for steel for iron for copper for everything

[uneven path]

You'll probably want a lot of concrete for building with later on, but limestone isn't involved in many recipes relevant after phase 2

[proud leaf]

but for steel gonna have to find a copper and iron nodes near eachother

[spare prism]

if i make 270 per min and im burning 270 per min why am i backlogging

[proud leaf]

i might make a mega factory in the future just bc but for now i don't got the transporation items for something like that

[uneven path]

Yeah, modular factories is the way most people go for as far as I can tell. But I'd still make sure to have a good supply of concrete to your dimensional depots. Having to wait 30 seconds every couple of zoops gets annoying if you're trying to set up a factory.

[uneven path]

Without more information this is very difficult to answer, but my guess would be that your machines are constructing stuff ever so slightly faster than your belts or pipes are carrying them.

[spare prism]

i have 270 coal minning, then 270 burning but i think i figured it out

[remote siren]

to not be clueless again, i just unlocked oil, i guess plastic is the first i should produce?

[uneven path]

Yeah, I would set up a small system for plastic and rubber to help you unlock further milestones, and then build something more permanent with a more useful level of output later.

[weak tinsel]

We should be able to craft a collar for the Lizard Doggo so it appears on the map and doesn't despawn

And we should be able to call it and it can sit on vehicles with you

[proud leaf]

i put alot of stuff in storage when i was remaking my spaghetii factory and now bc i am generating iron and copper things again i'm just putting the stuff in storage into the awesome sink and earing tickets

[vernal walrus]

Just noticed that packed bio fuel burns more efficiently in the jetpack than regular packed fuel even tho they have the same MJ value.

[proud leaf]

so i did good or bad?

[remote siren]

i need to change my coal stuff to conmpacted coal. but that would stop everything

[ornate saffron]

you can find more coal

[remote siren]

not close to where i have water

[ornate saffron]

is all your miners mk2 fully overclocked all ready>?

[remote siren]

#screenshots message

dune desert not friendly with water

[remote siren]

270 max, thats all what my belts can do

[proud leaf]

hmm i'm not late game but can't trains transport water?

[remote siren]

no trains yet

[proud leaf]

oh sorry

[ornate saffron]

most the coal is by water actually
#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

yes, as a fluid or packaged

[ornate saffron]

just trying to help but i would just make another facility to the south

[proud leaf]

the awesome sink is my trashcan lol

[ornate saffron]

Or to the west in the canyon

[proud leaf]

is it good to have some nodes of coal go straight into coal generation and a diffrent pair of nodes go to steel production?

[remote siren]

i have 2 nodes going into coal generators and one node that splits between steel and sulfur stuff

im just too lazy to connect the 3 new nodes i found somewhere else

[ornate saffron]

^_^

[remote siren]

somewhere behind my big main factory arrive 2 belts of coal iirc

[ornate saffron]

Ive never liked the idea of MAIN factory

i prefer just making factories where the resources are for a specific purpos

[remote siren]

#screenshots message

its just the starter stuff, copper, iron, steel

and storage

[cold pulsar]

is there a way to make my splitters more efficent?

i have a overflow of coal and the first splitter gives 2 coal and so on and it gets smaller and smaller

[ornate saffron]

I have a starter factory in the Grasslands that just makes phase one stuff for personal use. Then one that makes smart plates.

Another for personal use steel

One for personal use motors and rotors.

Most of phase 2 parts a immediately just shoved parts into storage containers to make the phase parts.

Then I moved onto phase three.

On the west coast
I made a small fuel setup to power stuff turning the poly into rubber and plastic for personal use.

The made a power barge. A optimized 20gw fuel power plant in the shape of a barge.

Then towards blue crater i made a ACU factory that also makes lots of crystal parts and caterium parts for personal use
Ai limiter, computer, oscillators, hi speed connectors and so on.

None are a MAIN factory. They just make what is needed.

[hybrid jewel]

Damn, I want decorations for my factory so baaad

[cold pulsar]

can you make splitters more efficent

[fickle locust]

Yes but also you may be asking the wrong question
If splitters send too much of a product down a line, it will fill up, at which point the splitter will only send exactly as much as is needed down that line

The "wrong" split cancels itself out if enough product is being produced

[cold pulsar]

nono im using 8 coal plants and the line has SO Much coal but only 4 of them are active

and water isn't the problem

[ornate saffron]

So normal splitters split evenly between each output connect that has available space.

This is how manifolds work well.

The first machine gets half the the amount and the other half goes onto the next splitter. (Assuming all belts are the same speed) once the internal stack of the machine (lets say its a coal generator ) gets a full stack the belt backs up and will only accept new coal when there is space to do so.

Over time this is self balancing as long as the main feed belt is equal or greater to the coal needed

[fickle locust]

Post in #1038092680493801533 because this probably is a different kind of problem

[cold pulsar]

i've been running it for a day and it's never filled

[fickle locust]

A screenshot of your coal setup will do wonders for seeing what's wrong

[cold pulsar]

dms?

[fickle locust]

I prefer questions thread

[cold pulsar]

ALR

[ornate saffron]

I suggest #1038092680493801533 with details. How much coal is the miner sending to your machines. Is there overclocks. Pictures of the machine inputs

Hitting p will enter photo mode.

R. Then T will decouple the camera and remove the ui. Allowing you to get wide shots

[cold pulsar]

oops

[unkempt blade]

I agree, americans love ranch dressing

[ornate saffron]

its pretty odd. I stay away from it

[unkempt blade]

yeah but it's normally keto friendly so it's healthy according to the most recent food pyramid

[ornate saffron]

lol the mosty recent food pyramid from the US is trash though

[unkempt blade]

how bad can it be if it lets me chug down bottles of ranch?

[rustic crest]

which stuff is rrly important to unlock in mma?

[ornate saffron]

all of it TBH.

I shotgun that stuff

slugs and alien tech i guess?

[rustic crest]

i rrly enjoy that exo skeleton

[ornate saffron]

i usually grab the freee one in the ||doggo caves||

thats if i spawn in the Grassy plains or rockky desert

[vagrant oar]

I've booted up the game for the first time in a while (few months?), and I suddenly have really random lag spikes while playing the game, and my GPU seems to be utilized WAY more than usual

[rustic crest]

i walked around 2 kilometers,mined all that shit with my fucking arms just to hear its can be obtained for free.

[vagrant oar]

the game also seems to just not respect my maximum framerate setting at all? I have it set to 100 (my monitor refresh rate), and it keeps constantly going up to 150-180

[ornate saffron]

are your drivers up to date?

have you reviewed your settings?

#1038092680493801533 is a great place for this as it often requires long trouble shooting

[rustic crest]

atleast i had a lot of fun

[ornate saffron]

You gained much experience and explored the immediate area is whjat i hear

[vagrant oar]

my drivers seem up to date, at least Adrenalin isn't yelling at me about them;
and I have, I even ran the hardware benchmark, and it's still iffy, will make a post in the forum about it tho

[ornate saffron]

waiting for assestance can suck. But do keep in mind that we are all here trying to help on our free time and because we want to.

if you post gets little attention commenting in the thread will bring it back to the top of the #1038092680493801533 channel

[vernal walrus]

I underestimated the scale of building train lines... I mean yeah I've seen pictures and such but dang.

[feral jay]

It's not even just the stations — once you start needing to add buffers to the platforms the stations get HUGE

[vernal walrus]

I'm trying not to get myself overwhelmed haha

[remote siren]

#screenshots message did that

[vernal walrus]

I really need to make that BP MK2 building......

I only want to have to design junctions once

The MK1 ain't gonna fit nothing train related on it

[feral jay]

Even the mk.3 can't fit my standard junctions

[fossil oyster]

Can I migrate my save to a multiplayer server?

[feral jay]

I'd ask over on #dedicated-servers

Might take a while to get an answer though (sry, I have no idea)

[real shale]

aaaaaaaaaaaaa im stupid

[feral jay]

Iwasn't gonna say it, buuut...

[real shale]

dw ur stupider :P

[tepid sapphire]

Gg

Gg

Gg

Gg

Gg

[proud leaf]

i will probally make a coal vault where i will just have soo much coal and then from diffrent nodes gonna make steel factory good or bad?

[feral jay]

LOL I assume English isn't your first language? An "outhouse" is an outdoor toilet, usually just a small wooden hut built around a hole in the ground with a toilet seat over it.

They get used in remote campgrounds a lot where there's no running water

[proud leaf]

tbh my first language is english but i just forget words that i dfon't use alot

[feral jay]

lol

[reef basin]

I wouldn't send everything to a single location

[proud leaf]

noo i will have like idk 2 nodes go to a big plot and the plac ewill slowly fill up with coal

[feral jay]

Yeah I mean I don't see the point

[proud leaf]

bc coal is used in vechiles right

"i hate my grammar"

[versed mesa]

Guys have a look at what this mod adds https://ficsit.app/mod/ayQXmQsU5ZwUw

I think this is another cool mod thats out

[unkempt blade]

there's a mod discord if you want a better audience 😉

[versed mesa]

Thats where I seen this lol

@unkempt blade am just sharing maybe someone wants to look at something to pass the time away

[abstract girder]

Is there no way to transform the spiders into something other than cats in arachnophobia mode? For example, to make them look like a normal monster in the game; the cat form is weird.

[unkempt blade]

cats are monsters, just very cute ones

[abstract girder]

i agree with that.d

[native stream]

could i receive some feedback for this? https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1482446925725958164

looking to optimise it

[real shale]

looking at a friends factory for them trying to diagnose issues and oh my, i have a headache looking at spaghetti

[golden sail]

lol

you´d better not take a look at mine

[mortal ginkgo]

At least you are not trying to fix my sphagetti of inside logistic floor that is just 9m long in height

[real shale]

#screenshots message this is their punishment in my world

[golden sail]

my gosh 18 more constructors

[ember moon]

Nukes

[golden sail]

good thing is im not gonna need screws ever again, or so i think

[reef basin]

that depends on recipes you use

and contrary to what you might have heard, screws are not a problem really

[mortal ginkgo]

Heavy Modular Frame will surprise you with a jumpscare. I suggest having Steel Screws recipe in store.

[golden sail]

ill bare it in mind

i just need rotors for the smart plating needed to complete phase 2

[warm finch]

You'll still need screws lol

[ember moon]

Screws are plentiful

Yet screws are eternal

[golden sail]

i should be getting 720 screws per minute

[normal orbit]

lots of screwing around

[golden sail]

fr

this is by far the biggest contraption i have ever built in a game

still it is most likely trash

[normal orbit]

if it works and runs, not trash :p

[golden sail]

it doesnt work because it doesnt have power lol

[warm finch]

Are you using solid biofuel?

[golden sail]

i have managed to get coal energy production so no

i used to have one set up but i ran like trash because it was really unoptimized, like 5 plants with 3 drills, now i run 5 with a single drill

[warm finch]

Then build more coal generators so you have more power. Or use bio burners to supplement your grid

[real shale]

put my friend through the hypertube railgun and they forgot to bring a parachute

[ornate saffron]

Classic

[real shale]

there you are

[ornate saffron]

?

[real shale]

from what i remember you said you had a nitro rocket fuel guide

[ornate saffron]

Oh yes. Do you want a link?

[real shale]

yes

[ornate saffron]

I can dm it

[real shale]

i am going to do a funny

and make ionised fuel before i have particle accelerators

[ornate saffron]

Whatever works for you.

It mostly explains some nice ratios and a solid easy to scale layout

[real shale]

i actually didnt think id be able to get the rocket fuel alt before particle enrichment

[ornate saffron]

Its bound to the blender unlock

[real shale]

yeah i just figured if the base recipe requires particle enrichment then i guess the rest are locked behind that but i was wrong

[crystal yoke]

do you guys think holding W while in hypertubes makes you a little bit faster?
i have the slight impression it does

[ornate saffron]

Although it does require pressure pumps

[ornate saffron]

There is some odd unlocks. Like you can get wet concrete before you get refineries

[real shale]

oh wow

[ornate saffron]

🤷 holding shift and forward makes you zipline go faster. So it is possible

[real shale]

hm i am the point where i can no longer rescan hard drives....interesting

wow i have the choice of charcoal or aluminium beam and somehow charcoal looks more appealing to me

[ornate saffron]

Unlock more tech in the hub or phase to get more.

I make sure I hit this point before changing phases

[ornate saffron]

For diamonds i assume?

[real shale]

i cant do diamonds yet

[ornate saffron]

Oh harddrives derp

[real shale]

no funky acclerators.....yet

[ornate saffron]

MC²=E.

E=MC²

[crystal yoke]

makes sense

[golden sail]

finally my 18 constructors are set

now sushi belt it all and call it a day

[ornate frost]

I have hit 100 hours on my save, lmao

[proud leaf]

guys did i go to far for coal #screenshots

[normal orbit]

should've gone south. two pure coal nodes near iron nodes there

use the ore scanner

[vernal walrus]

Do train stations have to be RO/RO or can end to end still work

[ornate saffron]

ro?

[normal orbit]

roro?

[ornate saffron]

roro ro your boat

[vernal walrus]

Roll on/Roll off

[normal orbit]

not sure what that term is

[vernal walrus]

One sec

[ornate saffron]

I suppose you could just run plateforms instead of running rail.

[vernal walrus]

#off-topic-media message

Vs a terminus stations which dead ends

[ornate saffron]

So pass through?

[normal orbit]

ah

[vernal walrus]

Sorry I only learned TTD terms way back when lol

[unborn moss]

Dead ends work fine, you need a locomotive on both ends.

[normal orbit]

that would be more ideal for thruput

[vernal walrus]

This is what I was curious about too thanks

[real shale]

BOATS REVEALED FOR 1.2?

[ornate saffron]

well.....

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message you can make this, but its generally only for one track, one train thing

[cunning glade]

Question how do y'all label train stations so u keep them organized just curious

[normal orbit]

location or purpose + in or out

like Rocky Desert In, Plastic Out etc

[ornate saffron]

location direction purpose

example

Godzilla Butthole N rods

[real shale]

I dont label them, i just remember where they all are

[ornate saffron]

European train station do already have cool names

[cunning glade]

I can't remember where close too 40-70 train stations are

[real shale]

Is there a list of all trains station default names somewhere

[cunning glade]

Plus if I wanna troubleshoot good too know where I need too go

[cunning glade]

Ight ye same except I just do rd

Ight sweet was just curious liking seeing how people do things differently or the same

[ornate saffron]

officially not likely. But i imagine some nerd has stripped the names from the game files

[real shale]

Apparently there is only 40 names total

I dont think i should name a train station after my countries capital city, otherwise it'll never arrive on time

[wicked stag]

hi quick question, how to i connect smelter and constructor

[real shale]

by connecting a conveyor belt from the output port of the smelter to the input port of the constructor

[barren falcon]

does anyone hav experience with teh factory skyline mod

[wicked stag]

idk how to do that lol

i'll figure it out

[proven snow]

press q. Choose conveyor belt. Look at smelter. Press left click. Look at constructor. Press left click

[wicked stag]

do i need to be hub 4?

i don't see conveyor

[next ivy]

what does hub 4 unlock

[proven snow]

yea

[normal orbit]

Need to do all hub upgrades to progress into phase one

[next ivy]

bro it literally shows you that it unlocks belts

[wicked stag]

chill out i've owned the game for 30 minutes

[next ivy]

👄

[real shale]

No being mean to the newbies, we were all newbies once

[next ivy]

cant remember that time

[real shale]

Then you might have been lobotomised in the time since you acquired the game, i would get that checked out

[ornate saffron]

hit Q if it is not in the logistics section youll need to do hub upgrades

[real shale]

oh by the way guys, happy pi day

[ornate saffron]

The hub is used to get new technologies, items and machines It gets more options as you progress throught the Phases

Phases progress buy completing ||Space Elevator|| Parts being delivered

[cyan eagle]

quick poll: start a new world or fix the old one (100h)

[plush trellis]

Me when I have to wait forever for stuff to make

[proven snow]

Do both

[cyan eagle]

huh?

[ornate saffron]

no wait on explore and excpand

[proven snow]

Is it like you took a long break? After a long break where I don't remember anything from a save I like to make a new one

[untold zealot]

Silly question - I've just made "Fuel" from Oil, and I'd like to put it in the Liquid fuel into my inventory so I can use it with my Jetpack. How.. do I do that? I can't interact with the Fluid Buffer thing the same way I can a container

[real shale]

you know, id normally say fix the old one but after seeing my friends world today, i am elected that depending on how spaghetti your world is, make a new world

[ornate frost]

You need to package it (via a packager + empty canisters from plastic)

[real shale]

i had the worst set up for pipeline diagnostics ever

[proven snow]

Gotta make a "Packager" and give it plastic and fuel to put the fuel in physical packages you can hold

[cyan eagle]

nuh just really don't like my factory and it's too big to destroy

[untold zealot]

Aaaaah, probably something I haven't unlocked then! That makes more sense!

[ornate saffron]

depends. If i havent played for a extended period of times ill just start fresh. Otherwise i just continuer

[real shale]

i intend to milk my save for as long as possible

[proven snow]

Use the outputs it does make, but maybe go to a new area of the map to set up a new factory?

[next ivy]

its pretty much always faster to just continue a save

you could just build on top of old infrastructure

[real shale]

until the world is covered in concrete, i will not stop

[idle perch]

wassup

[ornate saffron]

In @real shales case concrete

HBU

[idle perch]

all good

im starting in satisfactory

im still in phase 1 lol

[proven snow]

Small steps

One day you will have industrialized the planet to the point of ecological ruin

[silent vigil]

uhm how do i have a train that carries both fluids and solids

[proven snow]

a train can have one car with solids and one car with fluids

If you have a singular freight car with both solids and fluids that sounds odd though

[silent vigil]

nvm!

i forgot to save it on the schedule 😭

[silent vigil]

yeah ik

[ornate saffron]

we all start from there. Take your time the only clock you are on is your own

[proven snow]

Ficsit would like a word

[ornate saffron]

ther is a reason ada is not here

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[zenith bear]

Guys I just built the prettiest factory I've ever built

It's a box with some windows

[ornate saffron]

awesome

[idle perch]

yeah im chilling with the game, i like the building system, so now im going to build a steel factory, but i need a good location bcs i have 3 coal nodes at 1000m from my base and no iron nodes near of them

[ornate saffron]

if you started i the grasslandws there is pure nod to the southeasxzt with lots of iron near

[idle perch]

nono, i started in the desert, the second map for begginers

i think

[ornate saffron]

they are all the same map. Hand crafted, Just different start locations ^^ they are all good starts just in different ways

[proven snow]

This broke my heart when I first found out

[idle perch]

ohhh, i didnt know that

[feral jay]

Don't worry, it's a huge map, and it's a gorgeous map

[idle perch]

yeah now im more happy bcs i love exploring the world

so now ik i can explore a lot more

[ornate saffron]

there is two coal clusters in the Rocky desert. Booth have iron nearby not lots mind you

[bleak plover]

anyone know why my fuel generator sometime idle and somtime work?

[idle perch]

tyy

[ornate saffron]

youll likely have to find some sort of logistical solution for the coal or iron.

but thats the game Layouts, and Logistics

[feral jay]

Wait wut?

This game has logistics?

[ornate saffron]

the rocky desert is at most 1/6th of the map likely less then that. So much to expore

[idle perch]

exploring was one of my solution for the non automated steel products bcs i still farming for the megafactory i will do

[ornate saffron]

most ppl here view megafactory as in everything in one place.

We often suggest against this as the game only renders what you can see. So having everything in one place can make you PC weep.

also the logistics get silly

[idle perch]

nonon, i will do more than one megafactory, like, i will do a separate steel factory, also iron and copper will be in only one bcs i have nodes very near

i dont want and i cant do all in one

[ornate saffron]

cool just helping you with terminology as you are new ^_^

[idle perch]

bcs i tried it with the coal and it was a total disaster

[ornate saffron]

things scale uip rather quickly....

this is my power facility

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

If I had a better PC, I'd actually be tempted to try an Independency-influenced megafactory. Keep every "output" totally isolated but drag materials into one location anyway. Your challenges would mainly just be routing the intake around

[idle perch]

yeah ty so much

[white dawn]

But my potato could only handle that up to a point, so we'll see. :D

[lament niche]

It's what I do

[feral jay]

"Megafactory" is normally used among players to refer to a single factory where everything is brought to and everything is constructed

[lament niche]

Die, potato. goes to stomp on potato asdf style

[idle perch]

it look so nice, mine is a little ugly bcs i need more resources rn(my actual factory is for that) so i can make it bigger and beautiful

[ornate saffron]

potatoes are for food. they yummy. No stomping

[idle perch]

makes sense, ty, i will refer to only factorys now

[feral jay]

np, just wait until you start calling the power storages "batteries"

[ornate saffron]

I often use the term facility. As ill have multiple Buildings strung together on a lot.

[ornate saffron]

using In game names does help lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I am about to automatically summon some reddit mod wannabe folk by simply saying "guys how many water pumps can mk1 pipe support flow rate wise?".

Just you watch!

They will be here in just a few seconds!

[molten plover]

Shot I’d honestly like to know

[gloomy tusk]

its like 700 right

[molten plover]

Sounds right

[celest belfry]

Uh hello everyone - are there any nerds available to help me out please? I have just set up coal with MK2 refiners, MK2 belts, and I'm pulling the coal into a manifold plugged into eight coal burners. Pipes are great, have a water tower maintaining water pressure. My set up is 8 coal generators with 3 water extractors filling them. According to my (often poor) maths, one coal node at 120 per min should sustain 8 generators, but for some reason the last generator is running a very slight deficit. Like, it's burning one coal faster than it can be replaced over a couple mins. Nothing urgent, just annoying. Am I doing something wrong? Is it because I have a manifold instead of a load splitter? I am very new to this game (30 hours in 4 days. That's normal, right?)

[mortal ginkgo]

BROWWWWWWWWWWW

[mortal ginkgo]

let them all fill up with water and coal first

[gloomy tusk]

30 hours in 4 days is probably considered small compared to some but large to others just depends on perspective

[celest belfry]

I have done

It's just the very last one that's burning slightly faster than it's being loaded

For some dumb reason

[molten plover]

The day it dropped on ps I put in over 30 hrs in the first two days

[gloomy tusk]

first time i got it i played for 17hrs straight

[celest belfry]

The only thing I can think of is it possibly being an issue with the manifold, but idk why I would have this issue and nobody else

[mortal ginkgo]

check your belts, check the flow amount of coal too, its not really burning faster but simply not getting enough coal

[celest belfry]

I've checked every belt and connection too 🥲

[mortal ginkgo]

last manifold indicates not exact 120/min flow of coal

[celest belfry]

The setup should absolutely work tho right? 8 gens running from one 120 coal node?

[molten plover]

It does

But you’ve got to give the belt and gens time to saturate

[celest belfry]

I love troubleshooting!!

[celest belfry]

Might turn them off for a few mins and see what happens

I did preload all the machines tho

[molten plover]

I also recommend having a storage bin as a buffer for your coal.

[celest belfry]

Huge smart - thank you

[hasty mango]

is there any updated wiki?

[celest belfry]

I'm only just now getting the hang of how to be space efficient and not have spaghetti everywhere lmao

[ornate saffron]

wiki.gg not fandom

[molten plover]

Stackable pip/conveyors are friend

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[ornate saffron]

this one

[rugged talon]

So I’ve owned the game for a few years now, but I’ve only played it a few time due to me being scared it will absolutely obliterate my pc. At its current state would it make my computer struggle? (I’ve had this pc and not upgraded it since 2019)
I have a ryzen 5 2600 and a Radeon rx Vega with 16 gig ram

[molten plover]

Should be fine

[celest belfry]

The top one is exactly my setup lmao - didn't even think to check for a wiki 💀

[gloomy tusk]

rest in poo

[celest belfry]

Thank you for the help, I'll have a look and see what's going on some more

Just making sure it wasn't a skill issue on my part

[molten plover]

Any time there’s an issue. buffer… solves most of my troubleshooting

[ornate saffron]

the game only reneders what the player can see. Build boxes with walls around your factories if you are worried about lag.

[rugged talon]

Who needs walls 👀

Wait my bad didn’t mean to direct it to you lol

[celest belfry]

I ain't even started working on phase 2 parts yet but damn I'm stacked on everything else lmaooo (& my power output is more than double my consumption). I just don't know what the fuck to prioritise next. I love this game.

[undone ether]

beauty #screenshots message

[molten plover]

Research

[wispy tundra]

does anyone know like, if I build an elevator shaft in a blueprint, and I build it one blueprint on top of the other matching said shaft, if they will connect?

[rugged talon]

So, I am going to update the game and attempt to play it. Mind you I have little to no knowledge on what I will be doing 🙂

[undone ether]

no

that would be breaking the game

[wispy tundra]

Hmm yeah. I'll need to have my blueprint without the elevator then and build it separately. Ok.

I figured since this happens with stairs, that it might

[undone ether]

which tier are you on

[unborn rover]

Can the game run on an Intel Iris Xe?

[undone ether]

on which gpu

[unborn rover]

Intel Iris Xe

it's an intergrated gpu

[undone ether]

um

so like no

[drowsy kelp]

How tolerant are you of low FPS

[unborn rover]

very

[drowsy kelp]

You can play on low settings fine

[surreal breach]

guys, ive been playing for about 7 to 8 hrs tdy, i didnt even pass ONE phase, is this a skill issue

[undone ether]

which phase are you on

[inner ruin]

i never realised how dumb assed i was till i started playing this

[unborn rover]

Used to have an 15yo laptop any game it could run if it was atleast 15fps I was fine with

[drowsy kelp]

I got about 20fps with some slightly above low settings in the middle of some factory

[surreal breach]

phase 3 currently

[feral jay]

No

[undone ether]

i havent passed phase 3 and its been WEEKS

have you done aluminum yet

[drowsy kelp]

Starting a fresh save and/or going to an area where little of the world is rendered is amazing

[surreal breach]

ohh alrr

[drowsy kelp]

40fps on a fresh world, 60 up in the sky

[surreal breach]

i didnt even finish all things for fuel gens

[unborn rover]

So is there a point of me buying the game?

[surreal breach]

like, all of the gens, i alr have 4

[drowsy kelp]

If you buy it now you’ll have it forever, even through computer upgrades and such

[minor cedar]

guys im tryna get some coal power running i forget does 2 water extracters support 8 coal gens or 4?

[unborn rover]

I mean I am buying an pc after the summer

[undone ether]

on lowest graphics you will get 43-45 fps

[surreal breach]

4

[drowsy kelp]

Also if it looks like you’re on the surface of the sun disable clouds, I don’t know why clouds make the ground sun orange and the sky red but it does

[minor cedar]

ah ok

[white dawn]

It helps to get used to reading the machines' control panels; they tell you what they need and what they produce. Water extractors provide 120/min each (at 100% clock), and coal gens require 45/min each (at 100% clock)

[tall lantern]

5.333...

[unborn rover]

I mean I am fine with 20fps so

[white dawn]

Better to get used to doing that kind of math than trying to memorize ratios between machines, etc.

[minor cedar]

yeah but like the pipes have 300/min which confuses me

[white dawn]

(For coal gens in particular there are some specific ratios which many of us do tend to have right under our fingertips, just 'cause it comes up a lot)

[surreal breach]

finnaly i unlocked trains

[tall lantern]

no different to belts having a limit (except pipes are just a bit more finicky with it)

[drowsy kelp]

Don’t put it all in the end of one pipe

Spread out the water extractors

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you use three water extractors (360/min water) and eight coal gens (requires 360/min water) then those numbers line up, but you need some slightly creative piping to get by the 300/min limit on mk1 pipes

[drowsy kelp]

3 water extractors can do 8 gens

[unborn rover]

how well will it run if I set the performance mode for the game to priority

[drowsy kelp]

The what

[white dawn]

Which mostly just boils down to "you need more than one pipe coming from the extractors. :)

[celest belfry]

It's fixed. Just had to let er get backed up x

[white dawn]

Various ways to pipe that; you can search for CG on the wiki for a cheatsheet near the bottom (in the images section) of various piping layouts which work well

[minor cedar]

dude this water shit is very confusing lol

[unborn rover]

in windows you can set games or apps to priority which will like more power to the app or game

[white dawn]

Though those are definitely not the only way to do it (I actually don't use any of the wiki-suggested layouts myself)

[celest belfry]

Now producing 1800MW (stable) and only consuming a max of 780 💀 I better get to work on that damn space elevator

[minor cedar]

ok so to my understanding one pipe has a capacity of 300/min which can support 2 water extractors if it all connected to that same pipe am i correct? with 60 to spar

[drowsy kelp]

It won’t magic more power into the game, it gives the game priority access to those resources over other processes

[celest belfry]

(he said before tearing down his factory for the eighth time)

[drowsy kelp]

So if you’re not running multiple games at once it’ll probably do nothing

[tall lantern]

if you try and push all the water down one such segment, yes

[unborn rover]

ye I never run more than 1 game at a time

[minor cedar]

nah i wanna try ts out on my own first then look at someone else who knows his shit and see waht i did wrong

[unborn rover]

wait is the game on gforce now??

[white dawn]

Remember that you can always just leave your old stuff just as it is! The teardown+rebuild cycle can end up being pretty exhausting to some folks. Easy to burn out early if you keep doing that. It's a huge map! Your earlier factories can keep running and doing what they do -- new factories can be built near new nodes.

[white dawn]

I think so, yeah

[minor cedar]

so if i use the manifold technique on pipes will it have the same effect on flow rate for the coal gens?

[celest belfry]

tbf it probably is about time to leave the grassy plains. there are just so many things to keep track of!!

[white dawn]

Admirable! And of course the only way to do it "wrong" in the game is to Not Have Fun While Doing It. :D

So long as you're having a good time you're doing it right. :)

[wispy tundra]

just finished Phase 2

[celest belfry]

fortunately made a bunch of blueprints to make life easier so my next factory won't be a complete mess

[minor cedar]

ty, yeah not having fun is the wrong way i agree lol

[celest belfry]

Build a water tower!! That's what I've been doing and I've had zero problems since

[minor cedar]

what the hell is a water tower bro

[dense violet]

water towers only give you headlift. Like a pump

[dense violet]

an overcomplicated pump

[celest belfry]

Is that not basically what they're asking about? Manifolds for pipes? It's just pumps or add more water extractors no?

[surreal ingot]

I made my first train spiral and now 6 trains take a shorter path

[tall lantern]

pumping is completely orthogonal to manifolding

[dense violet]

no? pumps don't change flow rates in anyway or capacity

[tall lantern]

pumps are purely for going upward

[minor cedar]

i meant like putting pipe jucntions one after another to each coal gen

is that not what manifold is?

[dense violet]

show overhead images of what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta

[minor cedar]

kk

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys a general question, how do you guys bring ores to a train if you want it to be long, say 6+ wagons

[feral jay]

With conveyors and container buffers

[ornate idol]

I guess I don't understand the question. What does the train length have to do with the transport method to the station?

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont want smol trains around, rather lengthly ones but resources are scattered

so what would be a good idea to bring them to a train station so train can bring it to a factory etc

[silent vigil]

im at stage 3 rn i havent unlocked petroleum power yet, should i go for the alien power or for petroleum

[mortal ginkgo]

if you mean phase 3, you should always go for fuel power

[feral jay]

If you wait a few minutes I have an aluminium train I can get a screenshot of

[silent vigil]

like

im in phase 2 going for 3

[mortal ginkgo]

sure thing!

[feral jay]

You got me just as I finished building a train line through the northern forest, I need to place signals all the way back now

[mortal ginkgo]

@ me later and I will check, no rush, ty

[ornate idol]

again, the train length doesn't matter. You're picking a mode of transport (train), and you need product to the station. You pick a different transport method, so either belts or vehicles. Distance isn't in the calculation because you've already decided that the train will be the long-haul method and everything below it is something else.

I think what you're struggling with is whether to make 2 stations because you're uncomfortable with the potential belt ranges.

If the nodes are so far apart that you're having reservations about belting to a centeral train, then split the difference and make 2 stations. You can still use 1 train to stop at both of them to pick up material.

[gloomy tusk]

is the ryzen 7 5600 or ryzen 7 7700x better?

[unborn rover]

probably 7 7700x let me check

ye

[feral swan]

Gone through so many hard drives today, got all the great alts like cast screws but still no diluted Fuel

[feral jay]

@mortal ginkgo that still can't transport more than a Mk.6 belt's worth, just that I'm using five cars to reduce the frequency of trips

[mortal ginkgo]

I am curious about the "hard game mode" thats been teased

2 days to wait huh

[abstract girder]

i didnt heard hard game mode wow

but games normal difficulty level is perfection

[warm finch]

#off-topic-tech for better answers

[spare prism]

what do you run to figure out why game is crashing?

[warm finch]

do you have blenders unlocked yet?

[forest citrus]

Hi guys, im new to the game and i have a problem, i want one belt to carry 15 items and another to carry 45, is that possible?

[abstract girder]

you can use splitters

i am a newbie btw so i dont know it very well

[forest citrus]

Ye, but the splitters send the same amount, but i need one to send 15 and the other 45

[abstract girder]

look at the math and meta

@forest citrus

[frozen hemlock]

Question, what are you gonna do to those 45 later? Are you gonna split them too?

[untold zealot]

The one that needs 15 will get oversaturated and "stop" accepting after a while, making it split it as you want

[forest citrus]

no no, ill send them to a builder

[untold zealot]

Quick question actually about conveyer belts - if something is stuck on the belt at the veeeery last part before it enters the Awesome Sink, how do I select it without dismantling the belt?

Trying to mouse over just selects the Awesome sink no matter how much I try to angle the view

[oak stirrup]

dismantle the sink 👀

[untold zealot]

.... I suppose that's technically correct, the best kind of correct

[hollow turret]

😭 my satisfactry keeps crashing

[forest citrus]

I hadnt thought of that, but if the two builders together take up 60/min, why isnt the one requesting 15 saturated?

[untold zealot]

The one wanting 15 will still "buffer" up to 100 in its queue of the input ware

So it can take a while

[oak stirrup]

i don't get it tho, how is something stuck at the end of the conveyer belt? is it that the belt isn't actually connected to the sink?

or is it something unsinkable?

[untold zealot]

The latter - a darn acorn :D

[forest citrus]

Ive been waiting almost 30 minutes while i ate xddd

[oak stirrup]

oh rip then, gotta dismantle something

[untold zealot]

Fair enough, was wondering if I was missing something very obvious but guess not!

"Maybe I'm missing something obvious #2: Hypertubes! How do I make it pick the alternative path in a junction?

[frozen hemlock]

iirc press E

[untold zealot]

Yepp, that did it! Thanks!

[real shale]

E

The effigy has no song, only echoes, but it is part of a river. Why does the effigy avoid the windows?

[surreal gorge]

yo would anyone be down to vc and start a large world with a bunch of people?

[minor cedar]

guys if i put a splitter literally inside an elevator entrance for items does that connect the splitter and the elevator

[real shale]

yes

[minor cedar]

ah ok

ty for telling

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[surreal gorge]

thank you

[lament niche]

They are tho

[gloomy tusk]

@jaunty blade

[jaunty blade]

yeah?

hi

[gloomy tusk]

you need to add a big pillar

[jaunty blade]

hmm, what kind of?

[lament niche]

You need to kill some more Kane toads

[gloomy tusk]

whats wrong with cane toads

[lament niche]

Bro isn't aussie if he doesn't know

[gloomy tusk]

i know what they are but their chill if you leave them alone

[lament niche]

They are literally destroying your continent

[gloomy tusk]

it will work itself out

if it doesnt affect me directly yet its not a problem for me

[lament niche]

Working itself out: "uninhabited except for kangaroos, box jellyfish, cane toads, drop bears, and alligators"

[gloomy tusk]

drop bears 🙏

they are so deadly

we need to get rid of them

please tell me your joking about drop bears

[cunning glade]

Chat how do y'all plan large builds and like make them look good cuz like I'm making a decent sized aluminum plant and normally I'll just make a box or rectangle whatever fits my machines build up and just keep adding floors and machines as need but idk I kinda dislike this and wanna try designing or making this one different so figured I'd ask

I'm really good with the math horrible at like designing stuff or thinking about how I wanna make it

Cuz I think bottom floor will be flat and elevated as I have all my trains come in from the bottom and ship resources in and out from there

And then have everything above but idk I wanna kinda give it texture not just square ig

And by decently sized I mean 16400 ingots a min

[gloomy tusk]

Satisfactory modeled

Modeler

[whole robin]

Blueprints work really well for stuff youre gonna build over amd over again, like wall or road segments, sets of machines in manifolds, catwalks, lights, stuff like that

[cunning glade]

And in my eyes that only helps with the logistics side which I don't have issues with

Cuz it doesn't show the foundations or the build or how it will look

Ig it could be nice too break it into sections

But tools already does that

[gloomy tusk]

I would use blueprints if they didn’t get purged every fortnight

[cunning glade]

Idk modeler is not for me personally

[cunning glade]

Wym?

[gloomy tusk]

My blueprints reset every fortnight

[whole robin]

Since when does that happen?

[cunning glade]

Never had mine change so?

[cunning glade]

It doesn't normally

[gloomy tusk]

It’s because I have to reinstall every fortnight

[whole robin]

Why do you have to reinstall the game every 4 days

Are you cursed

[gloomy tusk]

Do you know what a fortnight is

2 weeks

[whole robin]

14 days, 4 days, same difference

[gloomy tusk]

So 14 days

This might be correct

[cunning glade]

I'm still so confused

[gloomy tusk]

I reinstall every Fortnight because of shitty crossover and shitty Mac gaming

[whole robin]

Crossover?

[gloomy tusk]

I have to reinstall crossover every fortnight to keep the free trial going so that means all my games need to be reinstalled

It’s a way to play windows games on max

Mac

So I can’t be bothered with blueprints

[whole robin]

Cant you just play it on steam??

[tawny urchin]

If I set up a train line from the Gold Coast all the way to the lower grassy plains will the train be too slow to move materials efficiently between the two?

[reef basin]

wdym by "efficiently"?

[pastel tiger]

it is 2 am and I'm calculating the efferency different of resources vs speed of 2 ways to make reinforced steel beam and i am not evem quastioning it
do i need help?

[twin sinew]

yeah

[cunning glade]

I'm assuming he means he's getting what he's putting into the train

But valid

[pastel tiger]

thing is IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER because i will do it is in 20h because i am making a 2400 oil facility

[twin sinew]

do you guys think 25 boosters is too much for a hypertube launcer

[cunning glade]

What recipes

[normal orbit]

if your aim is to kill yourself, then no

[twin sinew]

fiiiinnne i can halve it

[pastel tiger]

concrete steel pipes / concrete steel plates

[reef basin]

I think 1 booster is too much for hypertubes

[twin sinew]

nerd

[tawny urchin]

I mean will it take too long to transport the items back and forth to where the throughput is whack

[pastel tiger]

pipes is more effiencent but alot slower

[cunning glade]

This guy doesn't hypertube launcher

[pastel tiger]

and it just like around 30% cheaper

[reef basin]

yeah, I don't abuse bugs

[normal orbit]

8 boosters is enough to fling you to the other side of the map typically

[twin sinew]

this is probably gonna send me into the abyss

[cunning glade]

I don't think it's a bug it makes sense but I don't wanna start that argument

[reef basin]

if it takes too long, you add another train

[twin sinew]

i aint even explore that much of the map yet

[normal orbit]

hyper tube launcher isnt a bug anymore, its a feature, they added back functionality for it after the ue5 move :p

[reef basin]

I'm aware, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a "bug" for me

[cunning glade]

Too me it just makes sense

[reef basin]

the fact that community cries to have OP things in the game doesn't mean I want them

[undone wolf]

damn @loud blade

that base looks amazing

[trail ledge]

@undone ether

[cunning glade]

Ficsit doesn't care if it's broken they care if it's efficient

[reef basin]

I don't care about ficsit, I care about game balance

[twin sinew]

zoomy

womp womp

[cunning glade]

If u don't care about ficsit why even play💔

[reef basin]

I don't

[cunning glade]

Ficsit is awesome

[twin sinew]

actually i can drop it to 9 boosters and still have it look cool

[reef basin]

1.0 kinda made the game not appealing to me

[cunning glade]

How?

[reef basin]

too much causalisation and OP creep

[cunning glade]

Like?

Like ik I didn't get end game before 1.0 but it doesn't feel that different

[reef basin]

free power/doubling of resources/making recipes and game easier/...

[cunning glade]

They changed some node spots

[reef basin]

dimensional depots

[cunning glade]

Idk about the recipe changes cuz me no late game but for the other stuff just don't use it idk

Games so peak too let that ruin it for u

[vagrant oar]

I feel like dimensional depots are actually a good thing tbh, it was annoying to have to constantly refill for bigger factories

[reef basin]

it was a nice logistical challenge to be solved
now it's just "haha more depots brrr"

[cunning glade]

Ik they changed some of the like frame work things u get in t7 and t8

[normal orbit]

dimensional depots fixed the biggest issue in satisfactory imo

[reef basin]

that issue was between keyboard and chair imo

[cunning glade]

I mean I agree but it's also for the better there's still plenty of logistical challenges

I to dislike how op depots are but they're nice

[reef basin]

I liked the game before
they changed things I liked about the game
I like the game less

idk why I'm being forced to like something I do not like that much anymore

[normal orbit]

running back and forth to pick up materials wasnt fun or engaging gameplay. and putting things on a train and driving it manually wasnt either

[reef basin]

automating a train to deliver things to you was fun and engaging 🙂

[cunning glade]

Cuz the game is still practically identical they added a few items u don't have too use and can choose too ignore

[sick falcon]

i left my pc for a week long vacation and didnt upload my save to the cloud first 😔

[cunning glade]

Tho idk about the recipe changes I'll give u that

[reef basin]

I'm not alone who thinks this
I saw all the beta testers feedback on this, and it was majority of "game got easier"

[warm finch]

#faq you can make a back up save of your BPs and then put them in the correct location after reinstalling the game.

[undone wolf]

i feel like your first satisfactory playthrough has that special charm that no next playthrough will be able to repeat

[reef basin]

and I was following the game since EA, so I know what they changed

[cunning glade]

Well yeah u want a game too be easy too get into or it won't do well

Late game is still hard imo

[vagrant oar]

dimensional depots are satisfactory's way of implementing factorio's logistics bots, and I like that

I feel iffy about resource doubling, especially since in the grand scheme of things it's just free. I would like it if it was more like Dyson Sphere Program's proliferation where it needs its own circuit on top of the main automation

I haven't seen Tier 9 yet, so I can't comment on it

[cunning glade]

I really don't think it's that much different

[sick falcon]

just dont use depots and do that instead?

[reef basin]

and yet you say that you didn't play the game enough to know about it 🤷

[cunning glade]

I played over 200 hours I just never went too aluminum during ea

[reef basin]

ever heard "optimising the fun out of the game"?

[normal orbit]

tier 9 was kind of underwhelming tho i admit, could've made it... more

[cunning glade]

Cuz I wanted late game too be unknown

And Ik they changed the framework things u need for batterys

[vagrant oar]

I really do not like the argument of "you can just not use it LOL" when it comes to big things like this,

if it's accessibility, you can ignore it just fine, but if it's actually recipe changing and using it IS better in every way, it just feels like inconveniencing yourself, and you walk out of the game with the same dissatisfaction

[cunning glade]

Made them less needed i think

[zenith bear]

Is resource doubling what somersloops are for?

[cunning glade]

I said it's the same besides the recipe changes

[real shale]

Yes

[cunning glade]

Cuz idk the recipe changes

[zenith bear]

That's fun

[cunning glade]

So I can't comment there but the rest is virtually the same with the option for things too make life easier

[vagrant oar]

yea, and in the grand scheme of things, it's just free resources

[cunning glade]

Which u can ignore if u like the challenge

Just like u could ignore bots in factorio if u think they're too broken which they're

[reef basin]

exactly

I want to play the game by using every possible tool the game has to offer to beat the game and have fun

but I don't have fun if things in the game include "here's a few decent transportation methods you can choose from, each having their own advantages and disadvantages, *but here's one that's basically free almost-instant teleportation across entire map"

[vagrant oar]

dimensional depots imo are a good middleground

[reef basin]

see above

[sick falcon]

slooping in tier 9 is less free because of the way higher power requirements of the late game items/buildings

[cunning glade]

I mean u could also use them normally too which is the same speed a little slower sure but not by much if u use enough boosters

[reef basin]

you apparently didn't read at all what I said

[cunning glade]

Idk hypertube cannons kinda slow

[normal orbit]

slooping is still free more or less with how easy and powerful rocket fuel is to set up. I kinda wish that the game would force people to do at least some nuclear shenanigans

[vagrant oar]

you're using them the intended way, that's why

[undone wolf]

the fun of a sandbox game is that you can choose if you want to use something or not

[reef basin]

intended way is "no canons"

[vagrant oar]

stack a handful of entrances, and make a small ramp, and you can and will get shot out of bounds in a matter of a single second

[normal orbit]

and i wouldnt cry if they 3x'd the amount of sam on the map and removed the sloops

[cunning glade]

And if u view a tool as cheating don't use it 🤷

[vagrant oar]

the only issue I've had with the game so far is that the blueprint system just sucks, tbh

[twin sinew]

CANNON TESTING TIME

[reef basin]

I don't want to play a game where the only way I have fun is to remove half of the content

at that point I just play a different game that is better balanced and I can play it fully

[sick falcon]

i think hypertube cannons are cheating so i dont use them

never had an issue walking everywhere

[cunning glade]

I don't think 3 things are half the content but fair

[vagrant oar]

we use them because they're funny to use, but we don't mind just jetpacking

[reef basin]

where did I say 3 things?

[sick falcon]

(i definitely wasnt unable to figure out how to set them up or anything)

[cunning glade]

Especially cuz 90% of the content was in pre 1.0

[undone wolf]

i dunno i think we all love different things about satisfactory, for me it's base building, for some it's transportation or resource management

[reef basin]

more like 60%

[undone wolf]

so i can see why someone who cares more about the latter is upset about a feature that makes the entire field of transportation obsolete

[cunning glade]

Well we remove dd somersloops and hypertube cannons that would be 3 that u view as broken or too easy right?

What else am I missing?

[reef basin]

no, that's like one of a hundred small things I have issue with

[cunning glade]

Well game is virtually the same so idk

[undone wolf]

did the devs ever talk about space/other planets/dimensions?

[cunning glade]

Only thing idk the changes too are late game recipes

[reef basin]

says the person who also said "idk I didn't get far pre-1.0"

[cunning glade]

Like t7 t8

[cunning glade]

Id say t5 and t6 are decently far

[reef basin]

T7-8 were also added after EA

weren't there from start

[cunning glade]

Ah didn't know that

[real shale]

I like the game just the way it is no complaints except for dodgy lighting

[normal orbit]

they were added during EA

[vagrant oar]

huh? they were added during EA

[reef basin]

yeah, not at EA release

[vagrant oar]

oh like release

[undone wolf]

only thing i wish for is a difficulty option for natural disasters or natural enemies

but i understand they have explicitly said they wouldn't implement any of this

[cunning glade]

Idk as someone who put 250 hours into ea it feels pretty similar so I'm just confused I don't mean any hate

Only changes I notice are dd sloops the power thing

[vagrant oar]

honestly, I just feel like the SAM recipes are too much, I've seen little of them but it's enough to have me mildly displeased, the free power is "cool" but it doesn't make "much" of a difference at our factory's scale atm

[cunning glade]

I feel things feel pretty balanced

More than factorio atleast

[zenith pecan]

Odd bug, sometimes, rare, I get chucked out of a tube before actually reaching the exit.

[vagrant oar]

we played since before U5, and while we have bad memory around that era, it didn't change critically, but it did change a fair bit, especially around Update 6 and 7

don't say it.

[reef basin]

they made many decisions to make game easier (be it QOL, or recipe changes, or whatever) which I didn't like. I'm not required to like the game, I do not think that the game is bad, but I liked it more as it was before. I understand the management decision of making the game more accessible to more casual players, but that's not the type of player that I am, hence why the game is less for me

and again, no idea why am I being forced into playing/liking the game

[reef basin]

yeah hard no on that

[vagrant oar]

factorio is pretty balanced, what

[cunning glade]

Factorio u get bots and u don't play anymore wym no?

Maybe the game is bots aren't

[vagrant oar]

you still have to like, design the entire factory

[normal orbit]

The game is more accessible in its current state vs EA. devs prob made an active choice of alienating a few players to draw in a larger crowd. Personally i think the game is in a much better and more fun state to EA.

[reef basin]

ummm... not at all

[undone wolf]

i don't think you're being forced, people are just countering your opinion, which is fair in my opinion

[cunning glade]

I mean can could also just use bp especially if you've already played

[reef basin]

some people yeah. Some people are kinda pushy

[cunning glade]

Before bots and after are 2 different games

[reef basin]

again, not at all

[zenith pecan]

Some changes I dislike, best I could do is work around them.

[cunning glade]

Bots should use more power that's all

They use like non

[reef basin]

yeah, more power than depots in SF that are free and instant

[vagrant oar]

bots use a shitton of power lmao, wdym?

[reef basin]

talk about balance

[zenith pecan]

I'm not going to be pushed out of a game I've had thousands of hours entertainment because, well changes.

[vagrant oar]

but that might be K2+SE actually

2.7GW of power usage from bots alone 😭

[inner ruin]

i might have to watch some tutorials on how to do this game

[reef basin]

well for sure it's easier for me when I didn't spend that much on SF

[cunning glade]

Bots basically do the same thing they use some power

[undone wolf]

all that aside sometimes when playing satisfactory i get the feeling like it's the best game ever made

[reef basin]

that's in vanilla as well

[real shale]

Honestly, literally the only thing I mildly dislike about the game is the lighting in very niche areas, I really want some changes to lighting in some areas

[zenith pecan]

As you know I kind of tested the game engine until my eyes bled in EA.

[cunning glade]

Also I wish bitters were more difficult