satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

????

[languid bison]

What GPU/CPU combo are you running?
With 128GB DDR5 I’d assume it’s impressive

[real shale]

They are not here, can't trust them

[jagged nymph]

😭

[jagged nymph]

Celeron

[real shale]

Celeron with an RX580

[ornate saffron]

DDR4

5900X

Sapphire rx 6900xt

[real shale]

Wait ....5900X with ddr4?

[languid bison]

*passively cooled Celeron with ROG Astral RTX 5090

[languid bison]

5th gen not 7th

AM4 not AM5

[ornate saffron]

Yes this is normal

[smoky flame]

Has anyone tried making Optiscaler work with Satisfactory? I'm on 7900 XT and I wish I can run FSR4 int8

[real shale]

Oh yeah I forgot

[jagged nymph]

And a 32gb hard drive

[real shale]

I was thinking AM5 that's why

[weak bloom]

man....I redid the water pipes to my recycled plastic facility and turns out, depowering the factory, replacing the pipes, letting the water fill up, and then turning it back on is NOT sufficient 🙃

[languid bison]

The 6900XT is amazing
Outclasses my 8G 5060 insanely

[real shale]

I thought you performed black magic or something Beefalo

Somehow made DDR4 work with an AM5 chip

[weak bloom]

because the water in the machines also I think got drained out and didn't fill back up fully, so I basically have to re-reset the entire facility and its input manifolds....fun times

[languid bison]

Just enough for microslop windows + 4 GB of games

[ornate saffron]

I got lucky. I was buying a new cpu and board and the guy infront of me had ordered it but his visa was declined. So I bought it

[jagged nymph]

4gb of bloat*

[real shale]

Don't worry, at least Beefalo has half the ram required to run windows and one Google chrome tab

[jagged nymph]

Chrome never has high ram usage for me

[languid bison]

Lol let’s be reasonable

Intel core ultra 9 with a AM4 motherboard and DDR2 RAM
Logical progression, no?

[jagged nymph]

Max ove seen is 4gb with like 20 tabs

Usually its like 1gb

[languid bison]

No! They are essential system components that you’ll never need once in your life

As I said, essential

[ornate saffron]

You not wrong. Windows is using 12gb of ram while watching moving on Amazon prime and doing nothing else

I have Linus installed on another drive. Im test driving mint

[jagged nymph]

Use arch

[real shale]

You know what I find diabolical about tech these days

Laptops having 8GB of ram these days in 2026

Barely enough to run windows

[languid bison]

I went straight to dual booting arch
As it turns out my WiFi card does not play well with it

[ornate saffron]

.....

My laptop has 64gb of ram lol

[jagged nymph]

I just realized I have a solid prolly 500 bucks of ram in my laptop

[languid bison]

Had to reinstall windows and now I’m working on reinstalling arch from scratch

[languid bison]

MacBook Neo running Winslop

[real shale]

there are laptops out there that genuinely still sell with 8GB ram, and it's scary how many of them there are, 16 GB should be the standard these days

[jagged nymph]

64gb 6400 ddr5

[upbeat stone]

depends on if the ram is integrated into the board or if its removeable

[jagged nymph]

Its rrmovable

[upbeat stone]

niceee

[jagged nymph]

I mean im not selling it

[languid bison]

My PC has 1/2 that 400 MHz slower

[jagged nymph]

My pc is 32gb 3200 ddr4

Ddr6 when?

[upbeat stone]

i have 32 GB 5200 mHz DDR5 and 2 separate sets of 32 GB DDR4 ram thats like 3200 mHz and 3600

[languid bison]

How is your PC slower than your laptop my brother 🥲

[upbeat stone]

DDR7 in my GPU technically lol

[languid bison]

I’ve got a 32 GB DDR4
And three random 8GB sets (2 sticks of 4 ea/)

[jagged nymph]

I got the pc 4 years ago, got the laptop like 4 months ago. Laptop was also 4700 dollars and the pc was like 2k

[languid bison]

Dang alright man
That’s a crazy difference right there. 5090 laptop?

[jagged nymph]

Yep

Asus scar 18

[languid bison]

Ggs you are living the dream

[ornate saffron]

My laptop is a simple 11700h with a 3060

[jagged nymph]

Wait a minute I just realized something

Why dont I sell my pc and just use my laptop

[languid bison]

Finally native 10 FPS on modern AAA titles
We all know they are extremely well optimized

[languid bison]

I’d buy 🤚

You’d make more off just the RAM ngl

[jagged nymph]

I can just setup a little usb hub and plug in my laptop when I sit at my desk

[jagged nymph]

Starting bid 3000 dollars. 4k for the whole pc, thats just for the ram

[languid bison]

Yeah they have a lot for that actually
They sell dedicated external laptop cooling fans

[languid bison]

I’m broke 🤚

[jagged nymph]

Ill give you a discount. 2500 for the ram

[languid bison]

Without the RAM? 😭

[jagged nymph]

No just the ram

Nvm I see wym

[jagged nymph]

Uhh like 900

[languid bison]

Forget the RAM I’ll put 4GB DDR2 in if I have to

[languid bison]

Much more in my range

[jagged nymph]

Idk what this things worth used tbh

[languid bison]

That’s fair
The markets have been crazy lately ngl

What about just the GPU?

[jagged nymph]

3070

[real shale]

LATELY? It's been crazy for 5 years what do you mean lately

[jagged nymph]

With a 12900kf + aio

[real shale]

Actually 6 years now

[languid bison]

Yo
I’ll take that for 900

[languid bison]

6 or 7 yeah

NO I SAID IT

[real shale]

I remember buying my first gaming pc in 2020 and people constantly telling me "oh wait for X series gpu" needless to say I didn't make that mistake again

I had to settle for a 1660S that was way overpriced in 2020

[languid bison]

I remember a lot of “wait for 50 series, 40 series will go down in price”
Meanwhile:
GPU shortage
RAM shortage
GPU RAM shortage

[real shale]

next time I was told "wait for 50 series" and in like "no"

I made the right choice, because 50 series was ass on release

[jagged nymph]

"Yeah bro just wait for the next gpu" "nah bro just the next one" like ?? Its gonna be marginally better and theres gonna be new gpus in the future no matter when you buy

I never get that advice unless it literally comes out like next week

[languid bison]

Could’ve gotten a 1080 ti-

[real shale]

Oh yeah for double the price sure

[languid bison]

I have a modern and more old tech
5060
1070
1060
And a 970
Shockingly not far off from each other even the 5060 is only twice as fast as the 1070

[real shale]

Even if it comes out next week, I don't care anymore, I'm going through with it

Last time I got screwed over by scalpers

[languid bison]

Yeah for sure

[real shale]

I'm happy with my 4070S

[languid bison]

Ggs man that’s awesome

[jagged nymph]

I mean if I have all the other parts already im definitely not waiting on anything

[real shale]

Especially now, you can't afford to be hesitant in the PC market

[languid bison]

Unfortunately I have to upgrade at some point as the 8GB on the 5060 is already causing it to struggle
The 1070 died so I got the cheapest available GPU nearby

[real shale]

Oh yeah 8GB on the 5060 is insane

I don't know what Nvidia were thinking on that

[languid bison]

The 5060: 8G
1070: 8G
1060: 6G
970: 4G???

[languid bison]

And on the 5060 ti as well

[jagged nymph]

Why would anyone genuinely buy a 5050

[languid bison]

Laptops

[real shale]

I remember when the 5070 dropped after Nvidia were like "oh it's more powerful than a 4090" and it just.....wasn't lmao

[languid bison]

Also SSF (small form factor) builds

[warm finch]

may be time to move over to #off-topic-tech lol

[real shale]

True

[languid bison]

Yeah that was stupid AI marketing ngl

[jagged nymph]

Ah they said it got more performance when your game was 75 percent ai generated

[languid bison]

“You get more performance when your GPU is lazy and does no work”

[jagged nymph]

yep

[real shale]

I wanna play satisfactory but I can't until the end of this week aaaaa

[jagged nymph]

Y

[languid bison]

Same but I’m going away for a bit soon so lll finally have time

[jagged nymph]

I have to take the psat in the morning

[languid bison]

Good luck!

Also having your level of tech in high school is crazy but ggs

[jagged nymph]

Middle school

They said you can take a water bottle and a snack and im like what counts as a snack? Can I bring a whole ass pizza?

I almost wanna test the limit

[bleak valley]

My satisfactory streak ends tonight as a new game I preordered comes out but the factory will continue to grow later

[exotic fractal]

What's the most efficient turbofuel farm i could make with 2 oil nodes and a max of about 300 sulfur

atleast until i unlock the mk3 miners

[jagged nymph]

Use the satisfactory tool calculator

Go to inputs, tell it your limit, go back to production, and click maximi,e instead of items/min

[willow pond]

i love how chainsawing a small shrub can drop about 2 cords of wood

[jagged nymph]

And cutting down a large tree can give like 100

[ebon cobalt]

i just finally automated versatile framework and automated wiring
should finish phase 2 in about 30 minutes :D
(idk what imma do while i wait tbh... prolly finish my coal power plant)

[ember owl]

Helloo!

[woeful sinew]

anyone know why my conveyor lifts arent working?

[ornate frost]

conveyor lifts have some funky connections sometimes, try rebuilding them if you havent already

[woeful sinew]

apparently my splitters were like a milimeter off

actually i was wrong

you cant set up the whole manifold and have mats going through it and then place it

[real shale]

It doesn't happen to be Friday the 13th 2 does it

[jagged nymph]

Banana bread is so good

Banana anything is good

[feral jay]

Banana and peanut butter sandwiches are good

[woeful sinew]

banana and Nutella

[woeful sinew]

idk know if you remember me but ive now progressed to tier 5 and 6

[jagged nymph]

Lemme check the messages and ill remember lol

[feral jay]

Ah, you're still doing the tutorial I see

[jagged nymph]

Oh I remember

[real shale]

The entire game is one big tutorial

[woeful sinew]

the creators of this game are evil no doubt

is this gonna be like clash of clans where the more you progress it takes 10x longer to get to the next tier

[feral jay]

Something like that yes

[jagged nymph]

Yeah, but dont try to rush it

The point of the game isnt to rush to the end

Not to say "its about the friends we made along the way" but the fun in the game is taking it slow and building progressively more complex factories as the game goes

[real shale]

Wait til you get to phase 4

[jagged nymph]

5*

[feral jay]

There, I've built the refineries and blenders and belted in all the materials to plop another 80 fuel gens

[jagged nymph]

But unlike coc you dont wait 4 days for your base to upgrade while you afk

[feral jay]

I still need to build the compacted coal plant and actually plop the blenders but blueprints should make that faster

[woeful sinew]

i hate that part of coc

[jagged nymph]

I played coc like once 5 years ago

[woeful sinew]

the second it started taking a week to upgrade things i quit

[feral jay]

I've never played it, but that's fucking stupid

Timegating shit... just because?

[woeful sinew]

yup

and you can only upgrade like 5-6 at a time

[jagged nymph]

No, its cause you can spend like 5 bucks to skip it

[woeful sinew]

and theres like 50 - 100 things you need to upgrade

[feral jay]

Whoever thought of that should be shot in the street

[feral jay]

That's even worse, burn down the whole studio

[jagged nymph]

Ikr supercell sucks ass

[woeful sinew]

supercell (the company that made the game) is the definition of greed

[feral jay]

I may be being a bit extreme, maybe they should just be fired and never make games again

[jagged nymph]

It makes rm money tho

[feral jay]

But hey, I wouldn't stop anyone

[jagged nymph]

Some idiots spend thousands of dollars on it

[woeful sinew]

why is finding the location to make you mini factory so annoying

[jagged nymph]

Just train in all the resource

[woeful sinew]

i forgot i can do that now

but rn i need to automate the resource to get the train

motors

i hate them

[real shale]

You are gonna wanna sit down for this

[dense coral]

are the quartz nodes broken in nw rocky desert?

[woeful sinew]

do they not need motors

[real shale]

oh no, I mean, there's another higher tier of motor

[woeful sinew]

can zeus just strike me

[jagged nymph]

So yknow how simple iron plates are compared to motors right?

Get ready for this

[woeful sinew]

im scared

[jagged nymph]

The higher tier motor compared to normal is like comparing the normal motor to iron plates, but times 5

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Turbo_Motor

Check out the recipe for it

[woeful sinew]

you know it took me like 4 - 5 hours just to calculate and figure out how to automate the smart plates

[woeful sinew]

ima just pretend it dont exist

apparently i need them for miner mk 3 😭

[jagged nymph]

Too bad its a necessary thing for building and the space elevator

[woeful sinew]

rip

[jagged nymph]

Its actually not that bad tbh

You should have most of the stuff needed to make the parts to make it by the time you unlock it automated

[real shale]

You know I looked at the secret animation of the quantum Encoder and I'm starting to see the subtlety of what the arms are saying to each

From the looks of it, it looks like they are going "I go this way, I go this way? Yes. Okay? Okay." Lmfao

[jagged nymph]

Secret animation???

[real shale]

Yeah sometimes the arms of the quantum Encoder will smash into each other

And they'll argue for a bit with each other

[jagged nymph]

Lmao

Is it just like random?

[real shale]

Yeah it's random

[jagged nymph]

How rare is it

[woeful sinew]

is it fine to keep keep inventory on ive had it on the whole time

[real shale]

It's pretty rare, there's another one with the nuclear power plant

[jagged nymph]

I always have it on

[real shale]

Where the arm struggles to take the rod out of the reactor core

[jagged nymph]

Like if I watch it for 10 minutes will I likely see it

[real shale]

Maybe

Some of the machines do have them, I know the nuclear power plant, quantum Encoder and blender have them

The blender one is very subtle though

[jagged nymph]

Oh rlly

Whats the blender one do

[real shale]

From what I've been told, it'll sometimes one of the arms will chuck a barrel at full force to the other arm

[jagged nymph]

Interesting

[real shale]

Although I haven't seen it myself so

[jagged nymph]

I was looking at the fandom page for easter eggs and there so many i didnt know about

The only one I knew was the xeno zapper punch one

[real shale]

Oh yeah did you know that if you click the power graph multiple times you get locked out of it

And FICSIT reports you to HR

[jagged nymph]

What?

[real shale]

yeah, you get warned for damaging FICSIT property if you click the power graph several times in a row

[jagged nymph]

Interesting

Honestly you could tell me you can give a lizard doggo a jetpack and watch it fly away atp and id believe you

[real shale]

There's also a hidden animation the clap emote where you'll sometimes do a Naruto hand sequence

[real shale]

You are gonna wanna sit down for this

[jagged nymph]

Don't fucking tell me you can

[real shale]

There is a hog with a jetpack that spawns sometimes

[jagged nymph]

Oh

😭

[jagged nymph]

I think ive seen that before

[real shale]

Oh there's also the steam train horn one

Where sometimes the train will have a steam train horn instead of it's standard one

I actually came across that one by pure accident

[real shale]

There's another one where if you look at the lights of the space elevator at night they make up the FICSIT logo

[jagged nymph]

They need advertisement even on a planet with a population of 1

[real shale]

Honestly, CSS has probably the best attention to detail of any game Dev I've seen

The small things you take for granted and don't notice in the game until you actually take a moment to actually take it in

[jagged nymph]

Yeah

[real shale]

Like, the appreciation for detail in this game started for me when I found out that sprinting into a window has a unique sound effect

[jagged nymph]

The building system is so good too

[drowsy kelp]

It’s a giant disc in the sky, gotta stick your logo on it for all the nearby travelers and deoxys

The logo would be visible from the other side of project assembly, it might as well be a giant light-up ficsit stamp on the planet

[keen flame]

my lizard doggos count

also all creatures respawn forever right

cuz theres ALWAYS a tick in my base when i load the game

even after i whack it away every time

hope it doesnt break stuff like stuff moving on conveyors

idk if it can collide or not once it was in my space elevator

[upbeat stone]

LET MEEEEEEEEEEE

dang no images

[tacit parcel]

#screenshots message there might be something wrong with me because I'm about to tear this whole thing down just to move it up a bit so it can be flatter

[last bluff]

Honestly, I'd handcraft 1250 of them if only the pioneer could hold some water in her hands

[jagged nymph]

? You can hand craft them

[last bluff]

HOW IS DISCORD THIS GLITCHY

I even checked an extra time to make sure that was one of the more recent messages

[jagged nymph]

Ikr

Discord trying to make a functional mobile app: (literally impossible)

[last bluff]

omw to hold some nitrogen gas

[jagged nymph]

??

Theres no nitrogen gas in the recipe

[last bluff]

Is there an alt recipe that doesn't take items which do?

[jagged nymph]

No, theres an alt that uses packaged nitrogen

[last bluff]

Is there? (And does it not require other fluids or GGGAS?)

[jagged nymph]

Gasses are fluids

[last bluff]

Oh I see

GGGAS

TIL about that alt recipe

[jagged nymph]

But no turbo motor recipe uses fluids

[last bluff]

TurboTax

[jagged nymph]

No

[last bluff]

Packaged fuels kinda crack me up because my headcannon of flushing your fluid residues is the pioneer trying to bottle it but failing it like that meme where someone tries to carry grains of sand

[jagged nymph]

No you evaporate it and send it up to ficsit in the space elevator because ficsit doesnt waste

[last bluff]

Clunky pioneer tho

Oh that reminds me, does FICSIT reuse the toilet water with car batteries?

[keen flame]

wait is there a way to supply water to the hub so you can turn on the faucet

[woeful sinew]

FINALLY AUTOMATED MOTORS

[restive parcel]

Those were the hardest for me early to mid game tbh

Rotors are evil incarnate

[magic sinew]

how do i snap buildings to the grid

nothing happens when i hold ctrl

[jagged nymph]

You can't

[jagged nymph]

... you do know motors need rotors right?

And rotors are easy

[restive parcel]

aint' it c?

[restive parcel]

Rotors are evil incarnate, I always have 6 rods/min extra and it hurts my brain

[jagged nymph]

Sink em

And you still need rotors for motors

[woeful sinew]

i can finally progress oil

[jagged nymph]

Oh boy youre gonna have a fun time handling byproducts

[woeful sinew]

wish me luck

do i need fluid packaging to set up petroleum power

[normal orbit]

if you want diluted packaged fuel, yes

[woeful sinew]

do i want diluted package fuel?

[normal orbit]

you can get 4x the fuel from the same amount of oil using it :p

[woeful sinew]

i see

[jagged nymph]

Not required

[woeful sinew]

is 2 pure oil nodes together rare or common

[crystal cedar]

May ik what Owo is(reactions)

[normal orbit]

uh, the three big oil areas all have two pure or more

[drowsy kelp]

Rare? Every resource node is pre-set

They’re not random, they’re always the same resource with the same purity at the same locations

[last shadow]

i almost just died throwing 100 nobelisks at animals with cancer

love this game

[last bluff]

Wait you can finally give animals cancer? How?

[last shadow]

no they already had cancer

also known as being highly irradiated

if you throw some gas nobelisks at them that might give them cancer though

[last bluff]

Honestly, the radiated hog looks slicker and healthier than that crab eg pop

And the GIANT ENEMY SPIDER is still able to jump

TMNT cancer lore?

[last shadow]

anyways today i have learned to use rifles against radiation hogs instead of nobelisks

we need to irradiate the whole world and give everyone cancer

[last bluff]

What about in-game?

[last shadow]

500 nuke nobelisks

[last bluff]

Hell yea

[last shadow]

all the world issues can be solved with nobelisks

[last bluff]

Tbh I'm still using standard rebar in my last playthrough. Nobelisks work well enough for me

[jagged nymph]

Nukelisk

[last bluff]

Suiciding yourself sounds like a skill issue

[last shadow]

not producing enough items per minute? throw some nobelisks at the machines until they learn to work faster

[last bluff]

Nah, that's what the xeno-xapper is for

[last shadow]

pulse nobelisk

[last bluff]

Fart nobelisk or bust

[normal orbit]

pulse nobby, gotta go fast, nyoom

[last bluff]

- statements made up by the utterly deranged

[last shadow]

all satisfactory players are utterly deranged

who else would play a factory game for 10000 hours

[last bluff]

Have you ever really needed more than a hoverpack and the FICSIT vehicle?

[last bluff]

Gregtech players

Notably sane players

[last shadow]

(we dont talk about factorio players)

[last shadow]

blade runners

[last bluff]

Noob crutch

Golden car >>>

[last shadow]

i love slide jumping

factory cart best thing in the game

[last bluff]

I actually learned you can kinda do that without last playthrough

[last shadow]

especially on rough terrain

[last shadow]

yeah much slower though

[last bluff]

Would you still use blade runners if you could craft Khaki pants?

(I wouldn't)

Wait is the item name a Blade Runner reference?

[last shadow]

probably

[jagged nymph]

I used to think the third prong on some power cables was for extra power

[last bluff]

It is!

Unlimited power!

(Grounding is optional)

[jagged nymph]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

"Grounding is optional"

What year did your house burn down again?

[last bluff]

Wanna hear something scary? If you aren't into electrical

[jagged nymph]

?

[last bluff]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appliance_classes

Btw this is more widely applicable

[jagged nymph]

What about it

[last bluff]

Something being extra isolated is considered safe enough that grounding could well be optional

[jagged nymph]

Well yeah

But just in general "grounding is optional" not necessarily related to appliances is uhh

[unreal sand]

I like building a ton of mini factories

[last bluff]

What do you mean yeah? Shorting exists in any case

[unreal sand]

That take in raw resources and output one product

[last bluff]

Also have you ever seen iOS users' charging cables?

[last bluff]

Based take btw

[unreal sand]

Hey don’t call me out

[last bluff]

Well, "one product" is maybe too optimistic but

[jagged nymph]

Its a low enough voltage and its dc that it wont affect you

[unreal sand]

Well actually usually it’s two

Or sometimes 5

Like with my basic materials plant

[last bluff]

No videos exist of official cables catching fire

[jagged nymph]

Mhm

[last bluff]

It is NOT A THING

[jagged nymph]

What

I feel like you're arguing with yourself here

[last bluff]

You never seen broken cables with sparks?

[jagged nymph]

Ive seen broken cables, never seen one spark

[unreal sand]

I’ve seen it

My cable did that

Didn’t do any more than that

[jagged nymph]

When I was little I would put charging cables on my tongue to feel the current cause idk

[woeful sinew]

we have now automated rubber plastic and packaged fuel

[jagged nymph]

Nice

Got a jetpack yet?

[woeful sinew]

got it before the oil

thats a good place to hop off its 4 am for me

this game is mad addicting

[jagged nymph]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wu3Baq_jD8c?si=BO6Vk7XERKGPo6Qw

😭

"Possible tower deviation let me know when youre ready for a number to copy"

[unreal sand]

We need asbestos

[jagged nymph]

We do need as best o's

[unreal sand]

Now with 50% less asbestos

[restive parcel]

you know what they say, asbestos as best as ass Besto's

[jagged nymph]

Why did they decide to rename gold to caterium?

[unreal sand]

Corporate greed?

[normal orbit]

its named after Caterina Parks, CEO of ficsit

[dusty night]

yo guys me and my friend @magic sinew r new to the game, any qol mods you guys suggest?

[jovial fog]

no mods

if you're new play the game without

[tall lantern]

agreed, don't jump straight into modding

[unreal sand]

Play the game vanilla first

[magic sinew]

can i do asynchronous multiplayer

like other ppl can play when the host isnt online

[sterile blade]

Aka: dedicated servers

[thin pilot]

When it comes to aluminum what’s the best recipe is it the blender alt that used bauxite?

[dusty night]

ye only mod im kinda looking to download is a mod that allows snappin to world grid with ctrl and not just snappin to existing builds

[tall lantern]

that's a thing in-game already...

[dusty night]

when i holf ctrl it doesnt snap to anything tho

lemme stream in a vc?

[tall lantern]

as always, there's tradeoffs across recipes, so "best" depends on what resources you care more about

[dusty night]

nvm

[sterile blade]

Just record a clip...

[dusty night]

there aint no vc

yea hold up

[fossil oyster]

There is no "best" recipe for aluminum. However I always use Sloppy Alumina and Electrode Aluminum Scrap, they match up nicely.

[tall lantern]

but yeah global grid's been a thing for ages. And some would advise that it's not necessary anyway

[thin pilot]

Ye good point tbf I think I confused myself before I asked I thought that the alumina solution or whatever it’s called was from them gas wells

[dusty night]

https://medal.tv/games/satisfactory/clips/mimxotY9WUp98q8fU?invite=cr-MSxrSFgsNDA4ODMzODE4&v=16

[tall lantern]

where's your foundations

[dusty night]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tall lantern]

they're the base for snapping to the grid

[unreal sand]

Uh that’s already in game?

[dusty night]

WAIT

so

[tall lantern]

machines do tend to snap to each other since that's what you usually want

[dusty night]

u cant snap to world grid its only on existing builds aka foundations

[unreal sand]

Yeah

[dusty night]

this is an extremely nerdy discord

[tall lantern]

what would snapping to the world grid mean for something that's not the size of said grid 😛

[dusty night]

quite quite yes yes

[tall lantern]

tbh some of us just forget that not building on foundations is a thing

beyond the super super early game where you probably aren't that fussed about being particularly neat

[magic sinew]

how do u get foundations

[tall lantern]

there's a milestone unlock

[magic sinew]

everything has to be neat otherwise i cry

[tall lantern]

"how do I get X" is almost always either a) milestone or b) MAM

[unreal sand]

Im about to finish phase 2 :3

[leaden turret]

everything is neat at the subatomic level, problem solved

[unreal sand]

Not really

It’s pretty messy

[leaden turret]

spaghetti belts
string theory

everything is spaghett when you go down far enough

[unreal sand]

Ye

Nuclear pasta

Damn it now I’m hungry

[fossil oyster]

I concur. My bottom floor is usually spaghetti floor.

[leaden turret]

my bottom floor is 🩲

🥁

[unreal sand]

Everything I build is only 1 floor haha

[leaden turret]

this isn't factorio, you can build up

[unreal sand]

I know I can

But verticality is for weaklings

[thin pilot]

If you don’t mind me asking why do you use the electrode aluminum scrap does it not make it more difficult because you need heavy oil residue for petroleum coke

[leaden turret]

encourages verticality, are you calling weak?

[unreal sand]

Yes

She’s a robot

I’m a human

I don’t listen to robots

She’s also mean ):

[normal orbit]

it makes more scrap, with sloppy and electrode you get a 1:2 return on bauxite to scrap

same as instant scrap

[sterile blade]

C) Amazing shopping

[unreal sand]

I’m done with phase 2

[leaden turret]

[insert MCU joke here]

english-only server, per the #rules you agreed to when joining

[patent burrow]

Good morning, has anyone else experienced the problem where a second player trying to join a multiplayer session gets stuck on an endless loading screen?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> am I imagining things or did there used to be a multiplayer troubleshooting channel ?

also p.s. #faq should probably mention 1.2, not 1.0 😛

[patent burrow]

And what what helps now?

[leaden turret]

#1038092680493801533, check if anyone else has a similar issue

[fossil oyster]

It makes more aluminum scrap, and thus more aluminum. It might complicate things a bit more since you need crude oil, but for resource efficiency there is no better option.

[tall lantern]

resource efficiency in which resource, doesn't sound very efficient in oil if you go from zero to nonzero 😛

[fossil oyster]

In Bauxite. Crude Oil is more abundant than Bauxite

It depends on your builds of course, but generally, I run out of Bauxite far earlier than Crude Oil. But that's because I always make Plastic/Rubber using the Recycled recipes

[tall lantern]

yeah don't think I've ever actively run out of any resource

[fossil oyster]

Yeah you won't, unless you really try

For reference, I'm using 19305 Bauxite in my world (even though there is only like 12300 on the map).
Using 11000 crude oil which is less than the 12600 available on the map

[thin pilot]

I mean I could do I just don’t know how big I want to take it tbh

Do I need aluminum ingots down the line or just the sheets and other thing

Like I’m using all the baux

Which is like 4k of ingots sheets and the other thing per min

Do you use an alt for the silica?

[fossil oyster]

Are you using 12300 bauxite?

I use pure aluminum ingot, pretty much always. It's not the best yield per aluminum scrap, but I don't want to mess with silica, as quartz is also not that abundant

And, you don't even get THAT much more ingot per scrap if you use the default recipe

[thin pilot]

Satisfactory tools is breaking atm

So can’t even see how much it will be

[fossil oyster]

You can ask me, I know every recipe

[thin pilot]

It was just to work it out and see the visualisation

Of the aluminum with sheets casing and ingots on max

[fossil oyster]

You will probably need ingots down the line as well, so I suggest saving some

[faint reef]

so how playable will be 1.2 when it launches? i want to come back to the game but dont know if its worth starting a save now or wait for the expoerimental

[tall lantern]

unknown. experimentals are usuuuaaaallly reasonably stable on average, but that doesn't mean there won't be some game-breaking bug

there's a lot more of us than there are of them, with our own setups and wacky in-game builds that trigger things they'd never catch internally

[thin pilot]

Was gonna split it in 3 perfectly

Comes to about 4k of each so I may aswell as split it equally

[fossil oyster]

Yeah you can do that, it's really hard to predict what ratio's you will be using

[thin pilot]

Ye it’s hard to go super precise

[fossil oyster]

Well, it's not hard to be precise, but only if you know what you are building after

[thin pilot]

When it’s like 4685/m

It’s all gonna be sinked till later builds anyway

[fossil oyster]

Yeah 12k ingots will last you quite a while :p

[thin pilot]

I’m gonna try get them to semi even numbers and have all the funky numbers going to dimensional depos

Will have to see in abit once I can do the calculations properly on satisfactory tools

Because if I can get past 4680/m that lets me have 5 full t5 belts of each

and then the rest can be depo

[dusty night]

help, anxiety INDUCING FACTORY

[sleek barn]

Good morning pioneers

[dusty night]

10pm for me

[sleek barn]

It’s always morning for pioneers work doesn’t stop remember only one short break a day

[cunning glade]

What is this

[cunning glade]

Morning it's time to do a dab and then start on my aluminum plant I think even tho not looking forward too that

[hybrid ridge]

#screenshots message why does that happen whenever i turn around fast enough? the entire thing is filled with foundations

[fossil oyster]

That's evil. I have 100s of VIP junctions, lol

[cunning glade]

Idk what that is so this doesn't help

I have an idea of what it could be but it's something I don't ever see a need for

What

Man edge runners was such a peak show let's not talk about the ending tho

[last bluff]

HELL YEA
GREGTECHCORE

[thin pilot]

I’m planning mine now

Just getting the mental plan going

[ornate saffron]

You got this. Trust the dab

[thin pilot]

Need to work on the alternative recipes before I can start the aluminum

[vital quest]

What does the coal powered generator even do?

[ornate saffron]

Even without alts its not to bad. But intimidating

[ornate saffron]

Insert coal and water it gives power

[vital quest]

Set one up with the water and a coal farm and stuff but what are the benefits if it

[vital quest]

Power to what exactly

Anything I connect it to?

[thin pilot]

They are the next power generator

[vital quest]

They worth it or nah

[thin pilot]

Very

[vital quest]

Low-key water hard to fin

[ornate saffron]

Power everything.

Coal and water can be fully automated. Once set up you no longer need to interact with it until you need more mw

[thin pilot]

They are much better then biofuel

They are 75mw each and you can automate 8 from a pure node

I belive is the maths

[ornate saffron]

@vital quest

If you started in the Grasslands there is four coal nods and a big lake to the north northwest

[thin pilot]

Without over clocking

[vital quest]

Idk what i started in

I think it was the 2nd one

I built my base at the first and closest iron i went to

[ornate saffron]

Is it a light brown area with lots of rocky outcrops

[vital quest]

Yea not it

[ornate saffron]

Green grassy plains?

[vital quest]

Yeah I think

[ornate saffron]

So yes ping for coal you should get a location northish. Thats i a area designed for early cool learning

[vital quest]

Nvm grass fields sorry

[thin pilot]

And when you build you factory you need 3 water extractors per 8 coal generators

[vital quest]

How much coal factories do I need for each coal generator

[sleek barn]

Depends on the node

[thin pilot]

You run coal directly from the miner

[vital quest]

Wait how tho

There’s no hoals in the coal powerer or sum

[ornate saffron]

Miner to belt. Bring coal generator then use splitters to send it into the generators.

[ornate saffron]

There is two inputs one for water one for coal

[unreal sand]

The most intimidating part was the shear cliffs

[vital quest]

Did not see it my bad

[vital quest]

Ohhh ok a bit noob rn so i think I’ll do like 3 coal generators then all bioburners or whatever

[ornate saffron]

I suggest bringing the coal to the lake and make your pipes shorter. Water has some quirks. Keeping it simple is best

[ornate saffron]

Its no bother

[ornate saffron]

Ya. Bauxite is purposely out of the way of every start area often high up. This is by design to force us to figure out the logistics.

Math, factory layout and logistics is the game after all

[thin pilot]

There is a lake with I think 3 pure nodes which allows you to run 24 coal generators if I’m not mistaken

[vital quest]

Dang

Gonna look fo that later

[unreal sand]

I just conveyed the aluminum ingots to my main factory lol

[ornate saffron]

4 but one requires pipe bombs

[unreal sand]

Trains scare me

[thin pilot]

Want asmuch as I can get so gonna go for alts as I’m grinding for some alts anyway

[vital quest]

Only one i got rn is a coal pure node but super close to a pond i found or lake idk

[ornate saffron]

Not a choice i wod make but glad you figured it out.

[unreal sand]

Nor is it one I enjoyed

[sleek barn]

I’ll send you a picture

[unreal sand]

Running a 6 lane tall conveyor stack ain’t fun

[vital quest]

Alr

[leaden turret]

only 6? small potatoes 😛

[unreal sand]

I plan on utilizing trains but they still scare me

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> dares someone to add to trains for thomas the tank engine-style shenanigans

[unreal sand]

Mainly because of the amount of infrastructure they need to not look like shit

[leaden turret]

yeah, that's a thing.

I found that by the time I was ready to actually start building train tracks I had enough "temporary" belts running under the train track placeholders that it seemed pointless to bother with trains

[upbeat jacinth]

I have a feeling
Today they will finally tease elevator animation easing

[unreal sand]

?

[versed mesa]

Hyperloop when lol

[leaden turret]

no video due today, so no?

[unreal sand]

It go up

And go down

[leaden turret]

looks at hypertubes

[unreal sand]

I plan on a double decker highway

1st deck roads

[versed mesa]

Yeah but instead of theys hyperloop lol

[unreal sand]

2nd deck rails

[leaden turret]

given that the wagon is a joke item that's broke as shit, I wonder how they'd mock the hyper loop

[versed mesa]

Am going to build one underground from my home and no idea where am taking it to lol

[upbeat jacinth]

At this point I won’t be surprised if they aren’t hiding anything else in 1.2 from us

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[unreal sand]

Better idea hyper cannon

[leaden turret]

we know they're hiding stuff from us.

just some of the stuff they're hiding is quite obvious 😛

[unreal sand]

Send yourself to the void LGIO somehow got himself to

[ornate saffron]

Its the bug fixes that im pumped for

[real shale]

Nice pun

[upbeat jacinth]

This one knows ball

[ornate saffron]

I fear the ban hammer.

[versed mesa]

Yeah into space you know we do actually have them on earth i has seen news on it like railgun shooting rockets into space like Satellites

[real shale]

I have a hypertube rail gun blueprint

[versed mesa]

😂

[ornate saffron]

I avoid vomiting tubes

[unreal sand]

I haven’t used hypertubes other than for a cannon

[leaden turret]

no dodgy mac & cheese for you then

[versed mesa]

Yeah I also not used hypertubes also yet

[cunning glade]

Fair it's just brain be overthinking how I wanna do the plant

Also have too go do so much stuff

I need too calculate how much is going too each train station and set up the actual train routes

And then build this whole thing and then I can finally have drone fuel for the first p4 part

[versed mesa]

Have any of yous seen that round thing with tube attached to it facing up wards and tild facing the sky on earth thats something they been testing with

[cunning glade]

Silly me thinking I could build a computer factory without aluminum

[versed mesa]

Maybe using it to shoit satellites into space and more

[vital quest]

Can I like make it so i only use 1 miner mk1 but it transports coal into 2 different coal generators

[leaden turret]

that's what a conveyor splitter is for, yes

[vital quest]

Oh thanks

[versed mesa]

I think they calling it Spinlaunch

Slingshot cannon

[unique trail]

kann man in streams und videos keine anchrichten schreiben?

[cunning glade]

I'm confused by his question

[cunning glade]

Hier soll eigentlich nur Englisch sein, aber ich bin auch verwirrt, was du meinst.

[versed mesa]

Have yous seen this #design-and-architecture message

[thin pilot]

Why can’t you do your computer factory?

[cunning glade]

Cuz I'm also making the 7.5 acu a min for the p4 part there and I need too drone in hmf

[ornate saffron]

You can

[cunning glade]

Acu being advanced control units

Cuz it didn't make sense too not make thoose there

[ornate saffron]

They also dont need aluminum

[cunning glade]

Cuz I would've had too drone in super computers computer hmf along with making a separate factory for the 7.5

Instead of just droning in hmf

[cunning glade]

I need hmf which I'm droning around tho

[normal orbit]

dont need aluminium for those either

[ornate saffron]

🤷

[normal orbit]

ACUs is a tier 6 part, and aluminium is in tier 7

[cunning glade]

For packaging rocket fuel u do for whatever fucking reason

Which I need for drone fuel

[normal orbit]

you can use other fuels, its not a requirement :p

[cunning glade]

Yeah but when I'm making 454 spare rocket fuel for drones why would I make other stuff

I just didn't have aluminum being made when I made my rocket fuel plant

Also how high do drones go before launching forward

Cuz I wanna make a little area where drones can fly outside of the factory and have like a hole in the wall for them

[glacial drum]

I believe it all depends on where they’re going

You’d have to test it with every drone iirc

[unique trail]

I could post a video but I couldnt write something in #streams-and-videos

[cunning glade]

I see

I will indeed test it

I'm still unsure what I'm doing

On one hand I feel like I should out the rocket fuel in the center of the map so it's better for fueling things cuz it's in blue Crater

At the same time idk if it matters that much

Tho that's still another prolly 10 hours or so away

Cuz still gotta build the aluminum plant

Cuz if I make a like central tower for it and rocket fuel goes there I can make just a few drones move it over there and then my idea will work

Since I won't be constantly expanding it

[glacial drum]

I’d say the best case would be to fly some aluminum out and package it at the crater before running it back to wherever you need it

That or train it. However, I feel like drones would be better

[deft drum]

Yeah what i would do is use the DD do make some fluid tanks, package some rocket fuel, and use that to power a drone that supplies the tanks directly from then on

[weak tinsel]

should i feed my entire coper line into the awesome sink? i haven't automated reinforced iron plates or rotors so ima buy them instead, i NEED coal power biofuel is ASS

[fossil oyster]

Never buy items. That's a complete waste of tickets

[weak tinsel]

well i could manually craft 150 reinforced plates and 50 rotors

[reef basin]

you can't really waste something that's infinite

[reef basin]

you can buy them, but the game wants you to automate things 🙂 the earlier you automate them, the better

[weak tinsel]

pipes need copper sheets right?

[weak tinsel]

i ran out of iron, and i dismantled my iron line because it was ugly

[reef basin]

yeah, never dismantle factories, and if you really want to dismantle, only do it after you build the replacement factory

[thin pilot]

My whole plan atm is to get phase 4 mk3 miners and buy the resources to make them lol

[weak tinsel]

it was a rat tail spaghetti mess, i planed on rebuilding using the same martials but got distracted automating concrete biofuel and copper

[reef basin]

spaghetti mess still makes things
empty map doesn't

[weak tinsel]

Should I build the space elevator assembly plant away from my factory and ship the materials via tractor and eventually train?

Since it will probably take up a lot of space

[thin pilot]

The early phases don’t actually take up much room for space elevator

Especially with it being like smart plating etc

[next ivy]

You can also always relocate the elevator

[weak tinsel]

welp time to get a fuck ton of concrete and iron plates to make automate reinforced plates

concrete for the foundations

[thin pilot]

I think a good plan is for like the basic phase 1-3 like the basic shit just set up temporary factories that depo into dimensional storages and containers if you need them for space elevator

And do big revamps in phase 4 with big power grids mk3 miners etc

[little drum]

Hello, I've been having an issue on multiplayer for the last few times I played with my friend, things appear normal on my side (I host) but he's stuttering extremely hard. I'm not sure it's a connection issue, it appears normal elsewhere

If it's not, is there something I can do?

Strange part is, we've been playing for a long time already with no issue, we're in fact starting stage 5

[ornate saffron]

Many possibilities but most require complex troubleshooting.

I suggest posting in #1038092680493801533

I know waiting if frustrating but if you go 24 hours without someone popping in to help just type something in the thread and it will go to the top of question and answers again

[little drum]

done

[frosty sedge]

What if your friend tries hosting u might have to start again but u could test in a creative world to see if something sets it off like maybe the amount of machines idk gl

[velvet thorn]

I also host when playing with my friends and reloging seems to fix it 99% of the time

[plush dawn]

am i the only one that doesnt bother with electrical towers? i just make big long lines of the small poles

[velvet thorn]

Just make sure it isn't the host that leaves

[little drum]

We've tried re-logging already, and he even re-downloaded the game

[ornate saffron]

I see out resident tech expert is already posting there lol

[cunning glade]

could be a spec thing too late game big factorys can get laggy

[little drum]

Nah, I'm fine on my end, and it happened suddenly. At one session he was fluid, at the next he was laggy.

[velvet thorn]

Yeah, with minimum graphics I get around 32 fps max on steam deck and I'm not even that far into the game on the save I'm currently on

[ornate saffron]

The big towers are great for distance and segregation. My main power grid is power towers. Geothermal and rail connect directly to it and nothing else.

When I construct a new facility the power tower goes to a power priority switche then to all the machines associated with the facility.

This helps me manage my power use and if I blow a fuse the power priority switches keeps my power generators online as I expand my power needs.

[cunning glade]

thats my plan drone it too the rf plant and then drone it too a more central hub i think and make it all a loop

[little drum]

I partially use those for simple afk transportation

[cunning glade]

i mean his pc could be lagging cuz specs

[little drum]

I thought as the host I had the brunt of the load?

I'll have to ask what his specs are tho

[cunning glade]

he still has too render the game?

[cunning glade]

so false just make more coupons

[ornate saffron]

@molten vessel how goes your steam deck factory adventures

[little drum]

Hm, it still wouldn't make sense for it to happen suddenly: at one session he was going fine, the next (and it wasn't a very active one, we mostly kept crafting stuff for p4) he was laggy

[cunning glade]

buying them is really helpful for optimizing runs tbh so i can start big factorys without having too wait '

[ornate saffron]

So is the trophies. But people love then

[cunning glade]

cuz mk3 miners and 780 belts are so nice

[normal orbit]

buying things isnt that bad. like buying some turbo motors and fused frames to make mk3 miners before you setup aluminium production to have more materials

and tickets just build up with time if you sink the overflow of all production

[cunning glade]

thats what i did so helpful

50hmf a min with 480 belts yeah no thx

[random burrow]

once a storage is full is it possible to send the rest to sink or do I have to calc the production rates?

[normal orbit]

i got like 1500+ tickets in middle of phase 4 :p

[ornate saffron]

Buying a few stacks of plastic to get my fuel generation going at the start of phase three is great help

[unkempt blade]

you need every single one of those tickets for more boomboxes though because the sound radius is poop

[cunning glade]

smart splitters.

[random burrow]

what tier are those?

[cunning glade]

mam

[normal orbit]

smartsplitters can be made in tier 2 and researched in mam

[cunning glade]

basiclly t1 and 2

ye thought so

[random burrow]

what does that come under alien tech?

[cunning glade]

i have asked andre for a speaker mod for factorys like what Subnautica has

am waiting

[unkempt blade]

yeah some sort of extender at least to cover a factory would be amazing for those

[cunning glade]

indeed

[normal orbit]

caterium

find some gold looking ore nodes, give em a good whackin and get researchin

[cunning glade]

i like wanna hop on but like i dont wanna start this next part of my project

tho then i think i can automate everything besides pasta for p4

[normal orbit]

been trying diffrent games on new monitor :3

hop back onto satisfactory come tuesday

[unkempt blade]

I've heard good things about minesweeper especially as a full screen game

[normal orbit]

oh i wonder how large a field i could have on this lol

[ornate saffron]

Intense sweeping

That screen is so big you could curl on it

[thin pilot]

So true worked out from the aluminum plant I’m planning on making when I’m sinking the majority of it bc I don’t need it yet I’ll be getting nearly 2m points per min

[fossil oyster]

Yeah I have like 20,000 coupons. What do?

[little drum]

I have plans to create a truly massive factory in the endgame of my mp world where it will probably output something like 10 warp drives per minute, using sloops

That should make the 1k of the golden nut relatively quick right?

[unkempt blade]

• unlock factory carts
• unlock all the buildable stuff
• buy one of each statue
• all the rest goes to boomboxes

[little drum]

...right?

[fossil oyster]

Yes, you will get 1k EASILY. 10/min isn't THAT much btw

[unkempt blade]

even without doing anything besides sinking extras I've normally had more than half the coupons for the last statue + everything else unlocked by the time I finish the elevator stuff

[fossil oyster]

Like, with sloops, you just need 2 manufacturers making 5/min, then 8 sloops to double it.

And the parts that come before the 2 manufacturers you can sloop as well.

[little drum]

I mean we did unlock everything but statues and we also want all statues so that will probably still take a while

[fossil oyster]

8 sloops for 2 manufacturers making 5/min BWD -> 10 /min

Use 4 sloops to double 2.5/min Thermal Propulsion Rocket. -> 5/min
Use 4 sloops to double 12.5/min Singularity Cells. -> 25/min
Use 4 sloops to double 5/min Superposition Oscillator. -> 10/min

@little drum

That should be fairly doable

[little drum]

I guess...

I'd say power is gonna be an issue but if I finish my project for a massive rocket fuel refinery I'm gonna scale up power production by an entire order of magnitude

The jump in energy from turbofuel to rocket fuel seems humongous, I'm gonna take a guess and say ion fuel isn't terribly worth it however?

I will produce some since I want its insane jetpack specs, but I am not burning it in power plants

[fossil oyster]

Yes, that is usually what people do. Rocket Fuel is OP, and very easy to make, so people go for that. Ionized costs a lot of power to generate, but it only gives a little bit more power, it's just too much hassle for most people.

You COULD underclock your machines making Ionized Fuel, but, still not really worth it. Rocket Fuel is good enough.

However, your drones will fly faster with packaged ionized fuel. And your jetpack is much better as well. So I'd still recommend making some, like 50 or 100/min

[ornate saffron]

Nitro rocket fuel is goated

[little drum]

Wait, is it?

I thought I calculated that nitro rocket fuel is worse for sulfur and nitrogen consumption

There may be a problem in my calculations

[ornate saffron]

It does use a lot of both but blue crater hase enough for 600gw

And that'll give you enough compacted coal byproduct to make more turbo fuel, coal power
Or my favorite 1600 steel ingots per 600 oil used

[fossil oyster]

Nitro Rocket Fuel is super OP and kind of a joke , in my opinion. It completely removes power struggles because it's so simple to make

[little drum]

I think I'm gonna stay on the base TF <=> RF feedback loop as care about coal less than nitrogen and sulfur

[fossil oyster]

But I am a radioactive masochist so whatever

[whole robin]

Why are you radioactive

[ornate saffron]

In my mind I really dont use sulfer at all and nitrogen is under used in the game. So why not use it for power

Nothing wrong with the other way either though

[fossil oyster]

Yeah, if you already have Turbofuel, go ahead and convert it

[little drum]

I've calculated that the gain in oil from instead running nitro rocket fuel then feeding the resulting compcoal into a TF/RF feedback loop is less than 10% so I don't think it's worth it

Like the crater has so much oil anyways, and it's far from our mostly northern bases

[fossil oyster]

2525 crude oil used from the crater in my save, and none of it for fuel production :D

[little drum]

I mean that's fair

[fossil oyster]

Like I said, nuclear enjoyer here

[spare prism]

Hi guys

[little drum]

That said what I also want to do is a factory for all consumable ammo

[ornate saffron]

Same. Im forcing nuclear this run so I used all the resources in blue crater as possibme

[little drum]

Especially nukes. I love them and it's really the thing you need against those stupid green hogs, they're so tanky

[fossil oyster]

Hell yeah, nuclear is so much fun

[little drum]

I've done nuclear in an old save, it lowkey broke my brain

I'm a manifold afficionado, and the throughput are so low that it doesn't work well

[fossil oyster]

Ah yeah, gotta balance those reactors

[ornate saffron]

I have no ammo automated.

[little drum]

Also it may or may not be time to do the several late game factories we delayed

[ornate saffron]

I just got a bio coal setup next to a suffer node with portable miners. That i hand feed.

I dont use to much

[little drum]

Like, do you realize that my friend manually crafted 2/3 of phase 4 turbomotors, all supercomputers, all fused modular frames, and many radio control units as well?

He legit spent several hours idling just crafting stuff or shoving stuff into a blender he put on the side

[fossil oyster]

Lol

[ornate saffron]

Ive done that.

[fossil oyster]

Yeah I did that in my first save I think :D

[whole robin]

Can dogs still give nuclear waste as a gift?

[little drum]

To be fair we kind of wanted to quickly get mk3 miners/mk6 belts

[little drum]

They can give nukes at least

[ornate saffron]

I decided to do all of the phase 4 and 5 parts on one facility a save or two ago. But I didn't want to build anything until I had everything unlocked. So I just hand fed storage for phase parts manufacturing.

[whole robin]

But nukes are actually useful, nuclear waste is funny

[zenith pecan]

Nukes are kind of weak imho, fewer issues with clusters.

[little drum]

To be fair, if you're already committed to doing manual slooped phase 4 then it's not much harder to do the same for phase 5

[ornate saffron]

I like clusters

[little drum]

Nukes can oneshot a nuclear hog and I kind of want that because I hate the fuckers

Presumably they can oneshot those horrible green spiders as well?

[zenith pecan]

When I use stuff that goes boom, I tend to spam anyway.

[little drum]

I'm a nobelisk main

My friend's more of a rifle guy

[fallow jasper]

Today I learned you can use your sommersloop to get tiwce as many power shards from your powerslugs... Yesterday I crafted 200 powershards manually in the crafting bench....

[zenith pecan]

The rifle is ok, but sometimes, bombing is more fun.

[tall lantern]

don't worry, there's plenty more on the map, a total of over 2500 shards unslooped

[fallow jasper]

and it is a limited resource.. which sucks.. any way to make them respawn or farm them???

[little drum]

It can be useful to sloop dna as well, both the protein and the dna itself for quadruple profit

[tall lantern]

shards are also not a limited resource

[little drum]

You can farm slugs, and there's another way to make shards

[fallow jasper]

O.o

Ok so im not "fucked" by endgame?

[little drum]

nope

[tall lantern]

you never were, you're unlikely to use anywhere near the map cap

were you really planning to fully shard up 1500 machines?

[little drum]

Unless you're the kind to overclock literally everything

[zenith pecan]

My next project after the battery factory distraction, is 800 copper powder.

[fallow jasper]

XD

Ok, im glad... no need to start a new server then haha

[little drum]

Also if you wanted to cheat, well it's bad so don't COUGH IF YOU WANT TO, USE THE INTERACTIVE MAP COUGH ugh sorry

[crystal cedar]

Could've formatted that.

[fossil oyster]

Uh, yeah? :P My save uses 15k power shards lmao

[fallow jasper]

how do you farm them without slugs?

[little drum]

nope

[fossil oyster]

Phase 5/Tier 9 recipe

[little drum]

There's a recipe for them in the late game. Also tame doggos sometimes find slugs.

[narrow wraith]

Storming the office today to get 1.2

[distant hill]

March 17th, or so I hear ☘️

[zenith pecan]

Shame the shards cannot be sunk, Automating has to be isolated if you don't want to snarl up a dependancy 😵‍💫

[fallow jasper]

Ok! im glad i typed my frustation here then.. thought I fucked my save over a bit by late game

[fossil oyster]

Yeah it's really silly. You need to convert it to like ionized fuel or something

[little drum]

In fact in the late game there are even recipes that continuously consume shards

Imagine if they were truly limited!

[zenith pecan]

I'll have to look into a tiny ionised fuel factory that can make the packaged fuel and overflow to sink.

[tall lantern]

on experimental, yep

[little drum]

I've heard that 1.2 will have rain and nod randomization, is there anything else?

[tall lantern]

lots presumably

they haven't confirmed too much so far

[feral jay]

rain yes, ore randomization we don't know

[tall lantern]

fluid trucks, no more hoverpack stun bug

[feral jay]

A new game mode for sure that could be randomized nodes

[zenith pecan]

I heard there are lighting changes, I look towards that with a degree of dread.

[fallow jasper]

cant find it on wiki... is this the Synthetic Power Shards?

[fossil oyster]

Yes

[zenith pecan]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

Rain, selfie mode, t junctions, and fluid trucks.

Lots of bug fixes are confirmed

[fallow jasper]

Ok nice

[fossil oyster]

Self mode?

[tall lantern]

selfie

[ornate saffron]

Selfie mode.

[little drum]

Alright, presumably there will be more stuff

[fossil oyster]

Ah

[little drum]

Guess we'll just have to see

[feral jay]

And golf

[little drum]

Is golf a meme or are they really doing it this time

[tall lantern]

tbf that's probably not something many people end up doing, rocket fuel's just too good in comparison, you lose about as much power crafting that into ionised as you'd gain over just burning the rocket fuel

[feral jay]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Turn the grasslands into a golf course.

[feral jay]

(it's a meme)

[ornate saffron]

"new ways to play"

We will get a four + hour stream, full patch notes and a dedicated 1.2 reveal video Tuesday

[little drum]

neat

[crystal cedar]

Too bad I have exams.

DANG IT

[ornate saffron]

Game is going no where. Exams first.

[weak tinsel]

For my reinforced iron plates factory, would it be a good idea to leach iron rods and plates off, or should I make a separate one?

[tall lantern]

separate, imo

you're still gonna need rods and plates for yourself to build stuff

[little drum]

Make a new, bigger factory

Let plates accumulate

[crystal cedar]

Fine.

[tall lantern]

upshot of waiting is you likely avoid the worst of the bugs that'll come in at the start of the experimental launch

[ornate saffron]

You'll need a little of everything in phase one two and three (other then phase parts) for personal pioneer use. I make dedicated production lines for that purpose.

[weak tinsel]

I just unlocked coal power and now I'm setting up a better iron factory to build a better copper factory because I need copper sheets for pipes

Should I automate rotors at this stage, or no?

[tall lantern]

corolloray to that: not much point automating an end product that doesn't have a use on its own, like stators. Just make them within the factory/ies that do need 'em, like motors there

[tall lantern]

if you can use it to build with, you should automate it

[weak tinsel]

Pipe line pumps and coal power need them right?

[tall lantern]

is a good rule of thumb to start with, at least

[ornate saffron]

You are correct.

There is the odd exception.

Using the in game codex can help inform you of what you need to make for personal use

[tall lantern]

I know something uses 'em, so yes, automate away

[weak tinsel]

Early game, what's the best item to sink?

[tall lantern]

anything you don't need, for one

funnily enough uranium's decent that early since it's worth a lot with zero processing, but not sure it's worth going out of your way for it

generally, the more complex a part, the more points it'll be worth

[weak tinsel]

I have a HUGE surplus of copper wire and cable

[ornate saffron]

Smart plates, uranium ore.

Sam at whatever the refinement is available

[tall lantern]

you can also sink alien body parts if you mash 'em up

[weak tinsel]

so I need to automate rotors and reinforced iron plates

[tall lantern]

you'll want to automate most things

[feral jay]

Automate all the things

[ornate saffron]

The more complex the item the better the point value

Things I generally dont automate is portable miners and Munitions

[feral jay]

I automate munitions

Good midgame sink points from automating and sinking excess munitions I find

[tall lantern]

I semi-automate munitions (ie chuck down some industrial crates, fill with enough to make a bunch, feed output into DD)

[weak tinsel]

How good are potable miners in the sink?

[ornate saffron]

Ya i just have someportable miners on a sulfur node ( it has a real miners for other production already) and hand feed a storage container. I use biocoal in this setup too

[ornate saffron]

Not really. You can check the wiki for any items sink value

[weak tinsel]

Okie

I just started playing

My first setup was abysmal

[ornate saffron]

Being bad at something is the first step of being kinda okay at something

[fickle wraith]

I feel like im going crazy the gam ekeeps telling me my electricity is going out but theres not one power plant thats offline and my output is normal, is there anyway I can see what point is complaining?

[weak tinsel]

If you had certain types of autism and saw it you'd probably have a mental breakdown

[weak tinsel]

Are all the green sticks green or are some yellow?

[coral bough]

Uranium

[ornate saffron]

My first playthrough makes me shiver when I load it up lol

[tall lantern]

I reopened my initial save a lil while back, it was horrendous
#screenshots message

[weak tinsel]

I'm on my 4th complete rebuild on the same save

[tall lantern]

ouch, usually better to just leave existing working stuff alone and build new

[ornate saffron]

I suggest..... just leave it.

It feels bad to literly back track. So dont worry about it. If it functions its better then nothing. You can always build more

[fickle wraith]

Everythings fine , everythings got fuel, I kept getting warnings about the batteries going out

[weak tinsel]

But I don't want to end up like Josh, I want it compact and tidy

[ornate saffron]

Power storage you mean?

Sounds like you may just need to expand if everything is running smooth

[fickle wraith]

im nowhere near my limit though, to keep everything runign I need around 10k mw, I have 30k mw always stable

[ornate saffron]

That comes with game knowledge. (So does Josh's its purpose chaos)

The more you interact with the game the better you know machine sizes, how much room you need for belts and so on

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with pictures of your power graph and all the details you can think of.

[weak tinsel]

Josh is why I bought the game, I saw it, my AUDHD got triggered and I decided I'd do it right

Can we please be able to feed wood and leaves into the same machine and get biomass, instead of having one for wood and leaves

[ornate saffron]

I get that.

Planning is your best friend if thats your goal.

Plan out where machines will go. Where belts will run and so on. If you can do the math before hand it helps a lot too.

I like working backwards. For example if I need motors what parts do I need? Oh I need stators and rotors. Okay how many of each of those do I need and then what do they need to make and so on

[ornate saffron]

No, but coal pulls you away from that need entirely

[weak tinsel]

I'm stockpiling the materials to build a large coal powerplant

[stone python]

no, theyre different recipes

[weak tinsel]

I know, that's why the "please" was there

[stone python]

not sure how that changes anything

how big of a coal plan you shooting for

curius to see how big you build it

[ornate frost]

It gives a reason to make a factory for it, especially for liquid biofuel if you wish

[weak tinsel]

Well once I unlock images permission I'll share screenshots

[ornate frost]

It has also just occurred to me that I can slap a dimensional depot to mine so I only have to go there to drop off organic materials...

[stone python]

you can already post in #screenshots

no photos are ever allowed in this channel

[inner ruin]

i cant figure out how to make this buggy auto drive

i recorded a path, saved it, loaded it and clicked enable autopilot but it wont drive itself

[stone python]

you already recorded your route and saved your route?

you need to get out of the vehivle

[inner ruin]

oh its going

wait... whats the point of it then

[stone python]

to pick up and drop off goods

on its own, without you in it

[inner ruin]

broo i wanted to afk and let it whizz around and i could look at my stuff every now and then

[stone python]

#trains

[weak tinsel]

Posted my plan for reinforced steel plates there

Stole the design

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots #design-and-architecture and #math-and-meta allow images. Use the channel that most represents your needs

[weak tinsel]

Alrighty

[cunning glade]

Mid tbh

Like it's not bad but if it making alot bye bye too most of the sulfur

[cunning glade]

I like nuclear too but having too wait till t9 is annoying

[fossil oyster]

Nuclear comes online much earlier.

[cunning glade]

Maybe but it has waste

So no thx

[ornate frost]

You could probably stand on top of it?

[cunning glade]

Me wants perfect loop

And for ficsonium it's t9 so womp

[fossil oyster]

Yeah but you can sink plutonium rods in the meanwhile

[cunning glade]

Still makes waste

[fossil oyster]

It doesn't

[cunning glade]

Okay I don't want byproducts I want clean power

[pale tree]

coal ftw

[cunning glade]

If there was coal left too spare

Using 36k for diamonds and then what I think I need another 3k for p5 stuff

[ornate saffron]

Blue crater has enough sulfur for roughly 600gw of power.

I generally dont have any use for sulfur. I dont use the sulfuric acid recipes and generally speaking sulfer is a optional resource like uranium.

[feral jay]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=vnuR6LISKLi0cjiKwiEy I automate all the munitions

[fossil oyster]

Sinking plutonium rods is probably "cleaner" than Ficsonium as that stuff is super radioactive

[unkempt blade]

Unless you're just sitting in the radiation radius the entire time you're playing it's pretty easy to just get a stack of filters and ignore it

[cunning glade]

Well for my plans it would've been 10200 sulfur and 7800 nitrogen

Oh eww plus coal

[fossil oyster]

So many people building these super large power facilities. But I rarely see a high consumption value

[cunning glade]

Well yeah but radiation isn't an issue

[feral jay]

Oh, shit, I need to update that production plan, it's all wrong

[unkempt blade]

They're just vanity projects at a certain point

[cunning glade]

My pasta factory will use some 150gw

[ornate saffron]

Im not saying nitro rocket fuel is the solution for power for you or anyone else specifically. Im saying it is a good recipe. For many average players will produce more rocket fuel for power then they will ever need

[cunning glade]

Actually a little scared about running out of power before nuclear

Tho ig I could aim too do it before beating the game

I just wanna actually beat the game

Never done it before wanna see the ending

[fossil oyster]

Then don't go nuclear lmao

[cunning glade]

Huh

[fossil oyster]

Just slap together things. I ended at 100hrs with like 120GW, more than enough. I then continued the save and have basically nothing left from my initial build

[unkempt blade]

pretty easy to just get a trickle of elevator parts moving then go work on your vanity projects

[cunning glade]

Fair I just find it idk not the best for using all of the oil available

[fossil oyster]

It's now an 800 hour save with 1.5 TW generated and 1.2 TW consumed :d

[cunning glade]

Well the 30 pasta a min will take a sec

[fossil oyster]

If you "just want to finish the game" you don't need to worry about resource allocation at all

[unkempt blade]

that's kind of my point... you don't need 30/min to finish the game in a reasonable amount of time

[fossil oyster]

30 pasta per minute will take a sec? That will set you back weeks. If you "just want to finish the game", don't build 30/min

[cunning glade]

After I'm aiming for 8 ai servers 4 warp drives 15 biochem a min

[cunning glade]

Oh ik but I like the challenge and the idea

[ornate saffron]

Using all the oil is not something most players strive for though. Context matters.

I try to speak to the broader context here as it is a open forum for general chat. If I want to talk about deep specifics I go to the channels that best suit it.

[cunning glade]

I mean I don't wanna beat the game as fast as possible

[fossil oyster]

Okay yeah then by all means go for it. But you will not "just finish the game" :D

[unkempt blade]

the save keeps going after you finish the on-rails objectives...

[cunning glade]

Yeah that's my nuclear plan

Is 112 ficsonium fuel rods a min after I beat the game hopefully

Tho if power becomes an issue it'll be a before I beat the game project

[cunning glade]

Fair when I build with oil I see how much I have in an area and then use it all

[fossil oyster]

haha. What phase are you now? 112/min is insane

[cunning glade]

I'm just saying for my personal goals it's mid

But it's also nice

[cunning glade]

P4