satisfactory

[glacial drum]

I’ve got an old battery factory making 200 batteries/minute

[ornate saffron]

sloop the final blnder and package the excess. Boom drone fuel

[glacial drum]

If I ever want to use drones large scale I’ll need more

[cunning glade]

okay no rocket fuel is a tad bit better

[glacial drum]

Huh this actually could be a rather good idea for more than just drone fuel

[cunning glade]

im making a spare 454 rocket fuel for drones and that should last me a long ass time

[glacial drum]

It could stabilize my current fuel lines

[cunning glade]

and then i have 9000 go too gens

[glacial drum]

Which last I checked had issues. However I haven’t checked them in the last few hours so they’re definitely fully saturated now

Huh I wonder what it would look like to bring all the bauxite nodes together

I’d have to figure out trains. Which I rlly don’t like to use on more than a basic closed loop

[ornate saffron]

make a under the map tunnel system of belts

[cunning glade]

this is what im doing for spicy green rocks but with trains

[cunning glade]

i mean im doing this grabbing all of the bauxite

[past dune]

if you want.. i have a SCIM blueprint for a building, that processes 3075 bauxite.. I use 4 of them building to process 100% of the maps bauxite

[glacial drum]

Using sloppy alumina and pure ingot I can make 11070 aluminum ingots with all 12,300 bauxite

[empty spoke]

guys am i missing anything or are the only items in phase 5 that i have to automize singularity cell , superposition oscilators and time crystals?

[cunning glade]

u can max it out at 16400

u need regular ingots tho

[past dune]

each of these output 4612 aluminium ingots and 1281 silica.

[cunning glade]

pure gives u less ingots which sucks

normally pure is best in terms of raw ore cost

[glacial drum]

I think 11070 should be wayyy more than I need

Honestly I should figure out trains it’s been too long of not using them properly

Of my factories I know of multiple that can use upgrades. Perhaps I can finally do that soon

[ornate saffron]

the trains themselves are not hard nore the signals. The BUGS arounds signals are a problems and knowing them lol

[glacial drum]

Whatever I do I rlly need to finish my inputs for my current factory. I was stressed over uncertainty of how to handle them but I think I figured it out.

I’ll just use a manifold with a smart splitter and an injector

[void cliff]

I’m playing a hardcore save now, hope I don’t die hahaha.

Is there a Gif for horking berries

[ornate saffron]

essentially where to lengths of rail meet is a great snap point for signals signals but often bug out and do not create the block

[ornate saffron]

define hardcore?

did you setup a death soft lock?

[void cliff]

If I die I delete the save, that’s all

[ornate saffron]

gotcha

[brazen pecan]

ngl these tractors are so finnicky

[cunning glade]

Build roads don't use the ground

[brazen pecan]

i used foundations, but i dont have roads

[cunning glade]

That's what I mean

Foundations=roads

[brazen pecan]

ah, then yes

[cunning glade]

I don't think they're too bad

They do be wonky sometimes tho

[brazen pecan]

but what i meant is that it wont load when i place the tractor in there even thoughive updated it

[glacial drum]

I’d like to setup a file with some large city or building area but jeez I think I’m too far in to this save to even try that now. I feel like that’s the sort of thing I should start at the beginning with. I’m 270 hours in.

[cunning glade]

My advice redo the route and make sure u stop and get the load and unload points good

If u mean what I think u mean I had the same issue that's what I did too fix it

[brazen pecan]

the only thing that helped was rebooting and then i could load mt items into the tractor

[glacial drum]

Maybe with 1.2, whenever it is..

[brazen pecan]

i wasnt recording, i was trying to set it up

[cunning glade]

I am confused then

[brazen pecan]

now i cant load items into there while recording

[glacial drum]

You shouldn’t need to. You just set the station to be loading or unloading and drive through it do you not?

Automated vehicles have to be told to stop with a “pause” node supposedly

[ornate saffron]

i do the oppsite. I dont use foundations. the best part about vehicles is they need little infrstructor.

[brazen pecan]

im meaning, it, wont, let, me, load, i'm pressing it and it wont

in and out of recording, even when i go into it

and even when i record a path, IT DOESNT WORK

[void cliff]

Making roads will make vehicles work more flawlessly, especially if you add roundabouts and other infrastructure to them, but it’s much more work than trains, so it’s difficult to even want to bother with it. Trains unlock a little bit later and are far easier to set up

[empty spoke]

2 train sations with 4 freight cars, or 1 station with 8? i assume 2 is better

im trying to save space here

[normal orbit]

you just need to pause long enough for it to record a pause symbol at the truck stop

then you can edit the pause to 30, 40, 50, 60 seconds w/e and it will sort the loading

[ornate saffron]

one engine to four freight cars lets it get to max speed in most scenrios

[cunning glade]

Is there a limit

Like if I just keep adding an engine per every 4 cars

[normal orbit]

yes

[ornate saffron]

very much so

[normal orbit]

i think the game tends to crash around 500

also the bigger the train, the more it slows on inclines

[empty spoke]

eventho i have 2 engines on it?

so like 1:4 or 2:8, shouldnt that be the same speed?

[normal orbit]

yea, at 2/8 the slowdown is pretty small, at 1/4 theres no slowdown on 2m incline

[void cliff]

If you’re building a mega factory, how many train stations do you use? 4?

[ornate saffron]

one per part

[empty spoke]

lol

bro is me

[normal orbit]

4...0 maybe

[empty spoke]

thought 10 would be enough, starting to think im not getting below 20

[void cliff]

Each train with 4 cars for each part? Haha wow

[empty spoke]

trains lowkey suck, i expected much more throughput

[ornate saffron]

ya,

[empty spoke]

like who has space for 40 train stations?

do i look like the grand central terminal

[ornate saffron]

32 stack per freight car. 4 cars on avererage per train. Ore stacks what? 100?
(32x4)x 100=12800 per train

[void cliff]

Here I was thinking I could build the ground floor for trucks, second floor for trains, and then start the factory. Gonna be 8 floors of trains

[empty spoke]

okay and what am i gonna do with all those numbers when all i can output with my belts is 1200 at max?

that brings me to a total of 4800 iron per train with 4 cars

[ornate saffron]

for you Mega factory folks.

First lets agree mega factory means everything is being done in one facility.

this means at a minimum you'll need one train station with four freight platforms. for each resource.

there is 13 raw resources in the game

[empty spoke]

i doubt you can call 5000 iron ore a minimum for a mega factory

[ornate saffron]

Bauxite
Caterium
Coal
Copper
Crude Oil
Iron
Copper
Limestone
Nitrogen
Raw Quartz
Sam
Sulfer
water

[ornate saffron]

thats unload speed. you are still unloading when the train undocks

[ornate saffron]

above post says Minimum

[empty spoke]

So did i lol

[empty spoke]

Yea which results to 1200/min what ive heard from smn else

[ornate saffron]

each car holds 3200 ore. so each train takes 3 minutes to unload at max.

[zenith bear]

idek how you can beat the game with a mega factory

The production chain is bonkers

[ornate saffron]

its a logistics nightmare. We (as a community) often suggest not to do it

[empty spoke]

Correct?

[void cliff]

Game can be beaten just manually moving stuff from dimensional depot into manual bins, lol

[empty spoke]

Am i wrong about the max throughput of 1200?

Cant follow ur point

[ornate saffron]

each has to outputs so you can unload to two different storage container. Idustrial storage has two outputs

[empty spoke]

Ik but somebody said u can only hit the 2400 theoretically. In reality u wont get past 1200

[ornate saffron]

my point is that you will not have a train docking 100% of the time. Unless you have a train docing more then every 3 miunutes you are unloading fast enough

if you think you will have a train docking that often then add another station for that ore

[weak bloom]

smart splitter with 2 overflows will evenly distribute among the overflows right?

[empty spoke]

Oh nooo i see the misunderstanding

[normal orbit]

you can't hit 2400, but you can go past 1200, its just when items being output from two outputs, theres a random element on how much goes where, as long the terminal is full its max output on both, but then the last stacks can go on either belt in any ratio.

if you just stick to one belt per car, you are guaranteed same output as input

[empty spoke]

My point was not that i need another train station cuz i got too much traffic, my point is that i need more train stations cuz the max output of 4800 ore/min is not nearly enough to feed my base

[ornate saffron]

which is why my mental math did 1200 as the minimal output

[normal orbit]

1200 would be my maximum i'd allow per car just to avoid the headaches of going above

and the unreliability of the transferrates, if its stuck in an intersection that can inpact thruput a lot past 1200/min

[ornate saffron]

which is why i said one for each resource as a minimum.

make more if you need more.

this is the base of your factory so you really need to work this out before contruction if you want to make it look nice

[empty spoke]

Id feel comfortable with around 20k of each ore i think

No clue about liquids yet but thats s problem for later

[ornate saffron]

you can go to Satisfactory tools and see the max amount of each resource the map has and base it off of that if you wish

[empty spoke]

Yea im easily below that

[void cliff]

One thing you can do to save on trains is refine into ingots before delivering

[normal orbit]

eh

[empty spoke]

1:1

[ornate saffron]

depends. Pure iron ingot takes makes 1.8 ingot for every ore.

[normal orbit]

not really, most ingots smelt in 1:1, and you might wanan use other refinement to get higher yields

[ornate saffron]

also if you do that you are no longer making a mega factory

[empty spoke]

Well id still do it if it would give me a proper benefit, but theres not. And alot of recipes also need raw ores

[normal orbit]

caterium isnt 1:1, so thats an option, and quartz, unless you use purification then you get more product than putting in

[frosty sedge]

Where/when what point do you unlock liquid splitters Im waisting hundreds of oil per minute because I can only hook up 1 refinery

[ornate saffron]

when i did my phase 4 and 5 10/min factory i made it over water and near Nitrogen to avoid moving those fluids. Highly suggest lol

[ornate saffron]

you use juntcions you get them immediatly

[frosty sedge]

? Wdym

[empty spoke]

But still guys, i dont see why we trying to stockpile up my train even further, im bottlenecked by my belts

[normal orbit]

you use pipe junctions to split or merge fluids, there is no dedicated splitter for it

[ornate saffron]

there is a pipe segment called Junction. it has 4 pipe connection points

[frosty sedge]

Where do I get that

[elfin smelt]

it should already be unlocked

[normal orbit]

when you unlock pipes

[ornate saffron]

same menu area as your pipes

[rustic crest]

How factory actually should look like a straight line?

[frosty sedge]

Holy Ty I genuinely do not know how I didn't notice that mb gang

[weak mesa]

hi, my game is crashing very frequently, where can I contact support?

[ornate saffron]

how ever you imagine it. Behold! the power Barge

#design-and-architecture message

[weak mesa]

got it thx

[ornate saffron]

all good. we all get tunnel Vision

[weak bloom]

or one might say, pipe vision /runs away

[ornate saffron]

My pipe dream has become a pipe nightmare

[frosty sedge]

Sorry more questions I hook up one input and it distributes it to all 3?

[spare prism]

I am awaken

[ornate saffron]

it self splits to any connected port.

[frosty sedge]

Kk ty

[ornate saffron]

pipes can get... funky as problem crop up we can try to help

[frosty sedge]

I have heard the horrors already DW

[empty spoke]

Wait if phase 4 items to phase 5 is 1:1 then phase 4 10/min aint enough for phase 5 10/min

Id be left with nothing

[ornate saffron]

to be fair the only phasae part that isnt used for the elevator and other phase parts exculsivley is the pasta

[narrow latch]

Guys to anyone who's finished the game, was the ending crazy? Thats all I want to know yes or no, I don't want to be spolied just want an idea to have the right expectations

[void cliff]

Crazy, no. It’s neat.

[ornate saffron]

i found it...... under whelming. but that was 1000 hours ago. My first experience was during early access years ago so my view is not trustworthy

[narrow latch]

Perfect responses, thank you! I personally I'm hoping we don't turn out to be like an evil corp or something like the RDA from Avatar T_T

[fickle locust]

Not crazy. It's mostly visually cool above anything story-related

[ornate saffron]

ADA certainly does not follow any sci fi tropes. Nope not a single one.

[narrow latch]

I remember I was in complete awe when I first built the Space Elevator, so if it makes me feel that way again its a win in my book

[ornate saffron]

nor does ficsit

[ornate saffron]

its cool you can see (whatever) you are building as you send up parts

[void cliff]

Just think about what a space elevator might be used to make. Pretty straight forward.

Underwhelming is certainly a valid take, given all the effort we put in. The game is more about the journey than the destination.

[narrow latch]

Yeah makes sense

[fierce valley]

it also gives a visual boost to see what your progress is doing and how much of a change is occurring, plus it’s always there so you don’t forget about it

[ornate saffron]

keep in mind some folks dont want spoilers || insert spolier|| so if you must say what the project is

[fickle locust]

I'm much more satisfied with the end result of how many things I'm producing (such as my giant wall of 24 particle accelerators for nuclear pasta) than any cutscene ending could give me anyway

[tall lantern]

if you want to dodge spoilers you also probably want to avoid #screenshots (in general, not like right now hopefully) since people can and do post screenshots of the ending in there...

[fickle locust]

This game is not Ghost of Tsushima or something else where the storyline is paramount

[narrow latch]

Do you guys think we'll ever get any sort of expansions like to a different part of the planet? I see some snowy peaks when I'm flying high above the ground using man cannons

[tall lantern]

not expecting it, would be a (pleasant?) surprise

this world took like 5 years to make mind

[ornate saffron]

i built my Accelerators in a cave last save with no other lighting with global illumination on and it was awesome. something from a horror movie. each flash of light revealed spiders sitting on vines in the distance waitign for a opportunity to pounce

[fierce valley]

I’m still working on mine, and i’ve been playing the game since update 5

and only now in this 4th world i’m doing i’m actually making progress and not getting burnt out

[void cliff]

I think the devs would do very well with an expansion or a sequel to satisfactory if it’s what they are working on

[ornate saffron]

they've hinted and said that a large DLC is not out of question..... i hope so

[fickle locust]

Usually a DLC "new map" would be an area you can access from a certain spot and load into, which maintains it as a separate thing
But the big question is how you handle logistics going back and forth from that new place

Factorio Space Age made a bunch of new planets with new rules, and a mechanism for moving in between them with spaceships

[narrow latch]

That would be awesome honestly, I'm barely on Phase 8 and I'm already afraid of the game ending T_T but then I'll just make another world and be even more efficient

[tall lantern]

mmm, some big expansion/DLC wouldn't be as surprising, but I just dunno if we'd see a whole new map

[void cliff]

Wouldn’t need to be connected at all if it was large enough

[ornate saffron]

id be okay with jsut having them seperate starting options without them being connected

[fierce valley]

i wouldn’t mind a DLC where it gives you alt game options, I kinda like the area where we start in and i don’t see really see any need to go somewhere new personally

[past dune]

can some1 explain this to me please...

when using SCIM (satisfactory calculator) it says im using 17/16 pure coal nodes.... is it a bug? is there actually 17... or 16??

[void cliff]

Need an alt for stators, haha…

[fierce valley]

for what recipe

[void cliff]

I want alts that require using sushi belts. More different materials than machine inputs

[fierce valley]

I should launch up the game and continue my cooking system factory and turbo motor plant

[narrow latch]

Guys is it worth investing in turbo fuel and batteries? Right now I'm only relying on regular packaged fuel for drones and anthing else

[ornate saffron]

62 coal nodes total

[void cliff]

I think stators are generally only used in motors and those electro rods

[ornate saffron]

15 impure
31 normal
16 pure

[fierce valley]

I would say yes for both. Turbo fuel is great early game (and the classic TurboFuel Plant)

but also batteries are super important late game, so i would say focus on turbo fuel first then batteries

[void cliff]

What do you need batteries for late game? I usually avoid them. Nuclear?

[narrow latch]

I see, thanks! I'll try to make a factory to get those going

[past dune]

how is scim telling me im using 17/16 then? thats so weird..

[ornate saffron]

i often skip both and hold off until Nitro Rocket fuel.

in the mean time I sloop my Packaged Diluted fuel power plant and overflow the excess packaged fuel for drones

[fierce valley]

I recommend modeler if you wanna plan out factories easier it’s free on steam

[zenith pecan]

I only use batteries for drones, its on my plan for construction but at the end of a really long queue.

[fierce valley]

actually i should say, my late game is completing phase 4, sorry xd

[ornate saffron]

I dont know. I generally dont upload my save. I just use it as a interactive map. I do my math checking on Satisfactory tools

[void cliff]

I think they’re only useful for drones, and there’s other fuel options

[fierce valley]

they really don’t have another purpose other than drones? o_O

[void cliff]

Might be some recipes or alts that they go into like super computers

[ornate saffron]

batteries are for vehicles exclusivley

[fierce valley]

I see

[past dune]

you can use batteries in other receipes too.. not sure if worth it though... like computers and radio control units... if i remember.

[ornate saffron]

you are right...i think

[fierce valley]

i made a separate plant in my world just outside of the swamp that’s a battery supply hub for my drone network

I have one drone hub on standby for when i’m ready to take on my nuclear plant project

[narrow latch]

should I invest in getting more alt recipes? I only have a few right now and the only good ones would be cast screws and steel ingots - I'm lazy tbh

[ornate saffron]

I think so. Exploring is fun.

[void cliff]

Yep confirmed the only alt recipe batteries go into is for super computers. It’s not a bad alt though, avoids radio control units/crystal oscillators

[civic merlin]

Many alt recipes do make life easier.

[fierce valley]

It’s a def investment to go out looking for alt recipes, also you can find power slugs sloops and spheres

[narrow latch]

Cool maybe I'll mount an expedition soon

[fierce valley]

Def worth it in the long run

[ornate saffron]

Get all then slugs and alien artifacts tooo

[void cliff]

If you have a factory not near water, do you cart water to it for pure recipes? Seems like a lot more work than just locating close to water.

[frosty sedge]

Fluid pumps make fluid travel quicker In pipes right like if they slow down speeds them back up

[eager palm]

No. It just makes sure they reach vertical values

[normal orbit]

not quicker, but gives it like more pressure so it flows easier

[eager palm]

Throughput is determined by source. There is no “pressure”

[frosty sedge]

Uh nvm I was gonna ask if I stack em do I get insane speeds but oh wepl

[normal orbit]

there is something akin to it, pressure might not be the correct terminology but pumps do assist flow rates

[eager palm]

Pumps eliminate backflow, which gives a higher average flow in one direction if your pipes aren’t saturated fully

Fill your pipes full, please

[feral jay]

No. They do not. The only thing pumps affect is how high you liquids can go.

(and they also act as always open valves and reset headlift to zero)

[zenith pecan]

The times I've installed pumps backwards 🤣

[ornate saffron]

the headlift they add is also NOT cumulative. Every pump resets the headlift to teh pumps headlift value

[feral jay]

Pumps have absolutely zero effect on how fast liquids move through pipes

[normal orbit]

on speed no, but to reach further thru a manifold, they 100% help with that

[feral jay]

Well unless the pipes are vertical/inclined and beyond the headlift limit lol

[sinful roost]

I'd there a rule of thumb with battery storage for power? I plopped down a pretty big battery array but am wondering if u should have done some math first with how many I need.

[normal orbit]

no, even on flat level pipes thru a manifold, a pump before can help tremendously

[eager palm]

On an even surface, pumps and valves do near the same thing. Pumps just actively try to reduce the number on the feed side to 0, I believe.

[feral jay]

Pumps also reset headlift

[normal orbit]

nope. tested it multiple times, on a flat manifold, doesnt matter if its gas or liquid. if you're having issues with it reaching the end, a powered pump will help, and a valve wont do anything

[eager palm]

But backflow is the real enemy.

[normal orbit]

if the manifold is really long like aeryns 80 generator turbo fuel test, you may need more than one pump

[feral jay]

I'll try it, I've got a tricky manifold like that right now

So far, they've done squat but I'll try a bit more pump voodoo

[eager palm]

You will also get the same result if you let your pipes fill with fluids, and don’t use pumps.

[glad drum]

Put down as many as you're willing to put down - the more the better. You can do some math if it's something you wanna do (how many hours of gameplay can my batteries run my factory for?) but otherwise just have a mountain of them is cool

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message can see here

[feral jay]

lol I stuffed as many power storages as could fit into a Mk.3 blueprint, and then realized it's impossible to have enough inventory to actually plop it

Had to take that blueprint down a floor

[glad drum]

even with Dimensional storage?! 😮

[feral jay]

Yeah it was juuuust beyond what I could carry plus the DD

Maybe, perhaps, if I changed the floor and wall material, but I doubt it

[eager palm]

If verticality is not the issue, pumps will not solve it. I assume your pipes just saturated fully due to time while you happened to be installing pumps.

[glacial drum]

Just the single blueprint I use takes 735 beams, 1470 mod frames, and 14,700 wire. Not including the steel used for framing it.

[normal orbit]

before i added the pumps, the fuel would not reach the last 20 or so

[glacial drum]

And that’s for 108 storages.

[normal orbit]

just by adding pumps, it pushed past it and eventually filled the line

[feral jay]

Or if I deleted all the framing, then I might be able to plop it, but that would just look impossible

[eager palm]

If the last 20 weren’t getting fuel, all you needed to do was pause them and wait for them to fill

[normal orbit]

no

cause they would use up the fuel and then run empty

the turbo fuel would not go past that point without a pump to aid it

[glad drum]

Just don't use manifold guys, c'mon!

Or use a looped manifold.

[eager palm]

Manifolds work for fluids just fine.

[glad drum]

Sure if you're working with a low number of buildings

[eager palm]

I run 500+ fuel gens off manifolds, in clumps of 80

No problems

The trick is making sure the fuel blenders back up before you turn the generators on, and then the pipes are never not saturated

[storm hull]

does it take long to reach renewable energy? no spoilers please, i just started the game

[eager palm]

As long as your consumption is <600, and production >= consumption, a manifold will handle it without issue at the same altitude

[glad drum]

Not at all! You actually start with renewable energy.

Edit: In fact, all energy is renewable because resources within the nodes are effectively infinite!

[storm hull]

biofuel? like leaves and such?

[fierce valley]

also bio nuggets

[ornate saffron]

fully automated power production is not far from the start. When its your first run it feels like forever though

[fierce valley]

time to continue my factory save though

[normal orbit]

works at 600 too :p all my 14 rocketfuel manifolds of 60 gens each run just fine

[storm hull]

didn't se ehta tyet thank you three!

[eager palm]

<=*

[storm hull]

alright i just hate collecting leaves and such thankss

[fierce valley]

ohhh, sorry! yeah you get that in tier 2 i believe under the exploration tab

comes with a chainsaw too

[fierce valley]

also this is a in general tip in case you dono about it, when manual crafting you can just tap the space bar (or button) once and it’ll automatically begin crafting for you

saves you finger cramps

[glad drum]

Whoa whoa, spoiler! You're supposed to let them play for hundreds of hours first THEN they can make a reddit post saying "I just found out..."

[fierce valley]

I will not befall a pioneer for finger cramps the factory MUST grow

[ornate saffron]

refining plants and animal parts into Biomass then || hard biomass when you get the chainsaw|| helps

[glad drum]

Eventually... Liquid Biofuel.
The GREEN makes me happy.

[normal orbit]

its green energy cuz it comes in green canisters :p

[fierce valley]

green energy drink

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - mine is green cause it goes through the GREEN pipes

[hidden cedar]

Can someone help me understand why my water is stopping at like the 3rd coal generator of 9, when I have 5 water extractors and 4 pumps pushing the water.
https://imgur.com/a/dkacivO

[normal orbit]

those liquid indicators are empty on the green, i call shenaningans and lies

[fierce valley]

I unironically love your method of weaving pipes together like a quilted blanket

[glad drum]

FAIR - lemme log in and PROVE it's actually moving through it with a new photo

[glad drum]

My name is my ethos, we must embrace spaghetti

[west jackal]

I ... uh- dont even know what to say

[glad drum]

It's OK to just bask silently in the spaghetti

[west jackal]

are you the one that did the spaghetti trains

[fierce valley]

it’s good for inspiration

[west jackal]

that took like hundreds of times longer than it needed to et where it was going

[fierce valley]

skeptic

[glad drum]

Probably not me, but I am one of many

[void cliff]

All i wanna do is make factories! Why do i gotta work!!

[fierce valley]

work to earn the right to work or something like that

[glad drum]

#screenshots message okay it takes a while to go from the green little tower on the left all the way to the right but here's some new ones, you can see there's liquid in there and you can see it attached to the packager. 🙂

[eager palm]

I honestly love your spaghetti pics, DJB.

[fierce valley]

the results are in the pipes are being USED (it probably looked empty cause of the rendering)

[normal orbit]

fantastic :D

its an abomination against god, but i love it

[fierce valley]

I think that’s what I love about this game the most, is all the different play styles and way people are playing

[glad drum]

#screenshots message It's so nice to see the new stuff people come up with. I unironically love spaghetti builds because I find it speaks to their personality, how they want to play the game and break the mold.

[ornate saffron]

i ahte lookoing at my first save as it is a mess. but im proud that it works and all the lights are green or blue

[glad drum]

Every day I think of how I can surprise God

[eager palm]

Decorative spaghetti blueprints that autoconnect 👀👀

[fierce valley]

yesssss you understand, my save has a more lean to using vehicles since i love seeing them move around my world, im def gonna plan things better on my next play through, ive sunken my teeth too far in for a restart

[unkempt blade]

yeah vehicles make it feel so much more alive

[glad drum]

Every single playthrough there comes a point where you look at your beauty and think "I could have done this a bit better" but don't wanna tear it down lmao - I'm having that with mine, but it takes me hours just to transport iron from one side of my factory to the other due to my need for as much spaghetti as possible

[fierce valley]

i wanna see what your world looks like in that 2d version that shows all the buildings factories and belts

[humble osprey]

now youre taking

where do u guys get inspiration for architechure btw

[ornate saffron]

real life and Sci Fi visual media

[fierce valley]

i always look to other people’s designs and seeing what looks good, then seeing how i can incorporate it for my world or even redesign it for my vision

but rn my main factories are just giant warehouses lmao

[glad drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1476811571568181268/image.png?ex=69afaa74&is=69ae58f4&hm=95639a61d48047378d19305249a88fc0f66638c500a3bc9d10a9fc292110d732& -- actually this is one of the reasons why I wish I hadn't layered my spaghetti as much as I did, it doesn't really convey the DEPTH of my spaghetti pile (which reaches the top of the 'arms' of the space elevator)

#screenshots message - in case that link didnt work

[fierce valley]

it’s like an ant colony spreading out for food i love it

[glad drum]

big brain behaviour

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure #rules will let me say but maybe you can guess #screenshots message

[glad drum]

YES! My idea for this is that I am an octopus life form crash landing on the planet and my conveyors are my tentacles spreading out to suck the world dry

[humble osprey]

from emojis?

[fierce valley]

I can see that! It definitely gives the idea of the literal and metaphorical meaning of spreading out through the world exploiting resources

[glad drum]

I like you Makeo

[ornate saffron]

DamiLee on youtube is a Architect that looks at fantasy and scify as well as real life. its good start

[unkempt blade]

that's the result not the inspiration

[fierce valley]

🔥

[glad drum]

Probably 4chan

[humble osprey]

ok i give up idk

[fierce valley]

just posted a screenshot of what im working on with my world and how it currently looks if you'd like to check it out ! (idk how to do that screenshot reply to image thing0

[humble osprey]

where did u post it

[fierce valley]

#screenshots

[glad drum]

I like your roofing - esp the building on the left. and your little scaffolding for making the pipes go up and over where the train passes through

[fierce valley]

i plan on filling up EVERYTHING and making it non floaty, im just getting it done to start the automation, i need these cooling systems and turbo motors

i think my second favorite build is my fused modular frame factory

i built it outisde on the tall cliffs outside of the first area spawn, i think it turned out pretty well

[unkempt blade]

gross, no 😆

[west jackal]

do you guys package fluids to move large distances (trains) or use fluid freight?

[ornate saffron]

many do

[west jackal]

lord beefy what do you do

[ornate saffron]

ive never needed to personally.

I build where the fluids are and bring in the solid parts if needed

[west jackal]

or do you try and process the liquids where they are extracted and just move the products*

kk

[ornate saffron]

I generally take stock of the Resources i have and the resources i am willing to get.

I prioritize not moving fluids then i build where i can get the most resources with the least amount of transport. The goal being that the Facility being indipendant.

then i choose my recipies.

I didnt want to ship plastic or Rubber in for ACU so i built near Quartz and eliminated those parts

[fierce valley]

i think mainly why people don't is how much you carry in a fluid car vs how much you could carry in a regular car with packaged liquids, could be wrong though

[ornate saffron]

it gets confusing with compresion ratios.

gases are 1:4 i think when packaged.

[spiral summit]

lmao i just discovered a crazy bug

[fierce valley]

crazy bug or potential new feature lets find out

[spiral summit]

if you hold your jetpack and go into decoupled camera it just sends you really high

[real shale]

There's another one if you use your jetpack during an auto save it sends you really high up

[fierce valley]

i was gonna mention this but you beat me to it

[real shale]

Universal Serial Beefalo

[ornate saffron]

the wiki has little infromation on fuild plateforms. i would assume they also compress at the same ratios as packaged. But i dont use them nor do i transport fluids other then then when the intended use is from its packaged form (vehicle power source)

[west jackal]

beefy what is a good rcu alt

[fierce valley]

I read beefalo as buffalo

[ornate saffron]

the one that fits your needs and resources.

this is a question i cannot answer without know all the details. look at what oyu have and the alts you have ^_^

[ornate saffron]

\beefalo is a cow/ buffalo hybrid. rather tasty

[west jackal]

i wanted to eliminate quartz

[fierce valley]

big brain behavior

[west jackal]

but i dont think thats worth the effort (or possible)

[fierce valley]

well you learn something new everyday

[real shale]

its not possible

[west jackal]

do you need heatsinks for anything other than creating later items?

[real shale]

all of the recipes for RCUs require quartz in some shape or form

[real shale]

cooling systems and plutonium fuel rods

[fierce valley]

im planning to overhaul my RCUs plant when i get my TMs automated

[west jackal]

so...

[real shale]

admittedly though, the cooling systems are used a lot

[west jackal]

you dont need it other than for those?

[fierce valley]

they're used in accelerators

[real shale]

you need it to make cooling systems which are used for stuff like particle accelerators, quantum encoders, converters

[fierce valley]

^^^

[west jackal]

like. i just got to t7, was making a start alum plant, i dont need to bother automating heat sinks on their own

[real shale]

turbo motors and thermal propulsion rockets

[west jackal]

they are like circuit boards

[real shale]

i need to automate heatsinks and cooling systems after i do my nuclear stuff because god, turbo motors look like a nightmare

[west jackal]

i guess what im asking, are there any buildables that use heatsinks

[real shale]

technically yes, literally no

[hidden cedar]

Does anyone have a video for explaining water for coal set up, I have 5 water feeding into 9 coal but I never seem to be able to fill them

[real shale]

they are used to make things that make buildables but they themselves arent used for any

[west jackal]

such a convuluted answer lol.

they are the same as circuit boards then

used to make things, not used on their own

no point in automating cb

(learned that after automating them)

[bleak valley]

Can your pipes handle the amount of water needed

[real shale]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[fierce valley]

woah

cool bot

[zenith bear]

How do you build proper train rails in Satisfactory?

They look like garbage on the ground but regular foundations are huge

I see a lot of people build elevated railways. What blocks are used for the best supports?

[west jackal]

i did something similiar to neko i think, i used 2 small concrete pillars with painted beams inside

[sinful roost]

Got you, fields of batteries like the matrix. Thank you. Also what is troubleshooting your factory like?!

[fierce valley]

you can technically build them on any regular foundations, it’s up to your personal tastes on how you wanna design it! I used to run concrete pillar foundations every 12 foundations forward

[west jackal]

#screenshots message

[zenith bear]

What blocks are those

[west jackal]

^

[zenith bear]

Painted beams?

[west jackal]

the white is painted beams, yeah

[zenith bear]

Gotcha. Thanks!

I'll start experimenting

[west jackal]

Yeah! Credit goes to Sapphic Neko, its based on his design (hes an amazing builder)

[zenith bear]

And do most people just build a train station loop? Or do they use intersections? Right now I just need two stations and a train that can go between the two

[low ingot]

its probably starts out with ppl just using lots of one ways untill their factories are so big that it ends up turning into a circle of some sort

[zenith bear]

Gotcha

So should I build two stations at each factory and run parallel single direction rails?

[low ingot]

i havent made a circle yet, but i have like 7-8 one ways and some are at multiple same locations lol

[zenith bear]

Or is it possible to build a two way loop

Trains don't seem to be able to run in reverse

Not automatically at least

[low ingot]

two way lap seems to be the overall best option, whereveer you lay rail, have a seperate track each direction

or at least plan that for your future

trains can run in reverse if you put a locomotive on each end, thats what i meant by a one way. in sense of only one train is on tha trailine so it wont ever bottle

[storm hull]

is there something more automated? like i dont hav eto collect or kill anything thanks

[zenith bear]

Ah gotcha. I'll figure it out then. Thanks!

[fierce valley]

complete the first phase of the space elevator and you'll unlock your first milestone to autmated power

really nothing else before that

[storm hull]

okay thankss

1.5k coils..

[low ingot]

storage containers on the 1st tier raw products is a good idea, can always come back when you need to pick up those basic parts

[marble iron]

Quick question, how many different items do you store in central storage ?
Would 72 sections of containers be enough ? Too many ?

[fierce valley]

i would do central storage your most needed items, belt parts, machine parts est

and concrete too, but i think 72 would suit you fine

[green fiber]

Junctions

Pipes are directionless

And so are junctions

Junctions can split and merge at the same time

So you already had "liquid splitters" ever since you unlocked coal power

[zenith bear]

Do you build a train station and then a freight platform or a freight platform and then a train station

[green fiber]

Ideally train station first

[zenith bear]

Are you basically trying to line up the freight platforms and freight cars?

[molten vessel]

My discord insists nobody has said anything in 18 hours, and I’m seeing if this message helps me see anything said in that time.

[twin parcel]

yeah its a discord issue , some messages didnt load

hmm

[wanton blaze]

Discord is a bit broken atm

[twin parcel]

reddit it is then

[green fiber]

Oh so thats why stuff shows up as unread and then theres nothing new there

[wanton blaze]

all my dms and un-cached channels fail(ed) to load.

[molten vessel]

Yeesh…

[twin parcel]

off topic , is this a sign where shits gonna go bad and ww3 is coming ?

[molten vessel]

How does one get the Pioneer role?

[ornate saffron]

There is

Spoiler ||coal||

[ornate saffron]

Thats for #story-spoilers and theories lol

[molten vessel]

Ah, it’s a role for getting pings from there?

[ornate saffron]

No its open to all as far as I know. I pinged you anyways

[mystic oriole]

Dang, after a weekend of testing, my shrubbery and trees aren't regrowing. Dang, I thought it was a thing. I just never noticed until now.

[ornate saffron]

Not a thing. There is more then you will ever really need

[mystic oriole]

so now that's two things embarrassing myself with. Hypertubes being 2 way, and clearing flora not respawning.

[broken valve]

Hello, its my first time doing a train hub with mutiple stops, where do a need to put the different trains signal to stop any accident ? i have never used them before

the pic is in screenshot

[mystic oriole]

True. Just need enough for most to reach coal.

[zenith bear]

I did it! I built a tiny railroad with just two stations and a single train that goes back and forth

I feel like a magician

Now to build my actual route

Fun times ahead

[low ingot]

trains help tremendously once you get the hang of them

[mystic oriole]

They can help a lot. Remember signals can be tricky for most.

but there are some people on here that don't use trains.

[broken valve]

i dont understand signals

i have just created my first multi train hub

[zenith bear]

Is there any way to make rail ways place perfectly on metal pillars

Do you have to build the pillars before the rail

[mystic oriole]

Block and Path signals. Try to find a few videos on youtube to help with that. Some are really good at explaining them.

[normal orbit]

block signals create blocks that only one train can occupy. while path signals allow trains to reserve a path thru a block, which could allow more trains inside it as long as their paths dont collide.

[broken valve]

do i need two path to create a zone where train can decide where they go ?

[broken valve]

i saw many 😭

and do block signals are just used to create a one way rail segment ?

[normal orbit]

typically you place a path signal on each incoming track to an intersection, and a block signal on the exit.

[broken valve]

all right

[normal orbit]

also path signals cannot include train stations, so you have to block them off

[red egret]

I've watched many videos about this problem too, but I still don't understand anything.

[mystic oriole]

Block signals are handy for the length of train.

[broken valve]

thx, ill try something

[feral jay]

No, you just need a path signal at the entry points to the block, and block signals at the exits

[mystic oriole]

The whole goal is to not enable trains to smash into one another.

[normal orbit]

preferbly a bit longer. 10-20 foundations long between them

[ornate saffron]

Someone here in the fall completed the game with geothermal and bio only.

[mystic oriole]

that sounds fun

[glass thicket]

Just did it with 7 APAs and geothermal. Tier9 took a while!

[red egret]

I am in the phase 4 right now and I completely lost 🥲

[mystic oriole]

How big of a battery bank did you need?

[low ingot]

yes

[potent badge]

Why does the Pathfinder take damage from poison gas while wearing a helmet?

[low ingot]

youll need to figure out aluminum asap

[red egret]

I figured out I have factory for it and Turbo fuel also.

I mean rocket fuel.

[glass thicket]

0. Containerized a bunch if manufacturers and slooped those. Slooping loops/encoders took to much juice. I just wanted to see if I could do it while having a mostly blank slate for 1.2

[broken valve]

Why cant i place a stop signal facing the way i want ?

[normal orbit]

seems like a bug, havnt run into it myself, but you can place it the wrong way, then correct way and just dismantle the incorrect one

[potent badge]

Why does the Pathfinder take damage from poison gas while wearing a helmet?

[broken valve]

Ok i managed to place it the correct way

now i have a path signal, leading into a track that splits in two, each side got a stop signal that says block occupied even tho there is no train, only one at the entrance waiting for path reservation

[ornate saffron]

Phase 4 is a jump for sure

[fierce valley]

hi chat

[normal orbit]

you need to block off the entire track, or it will treat the rest of it as single block

[ornate saffron]

You need a gas mask with filters.

[potent badge]

okay

[broken valve]

like puting block path at regular along the track ?

[bleak valley]

I restarted

[normal orbit]

yea, one every 10-20 foundations or so

[bleak valley]

Time to go bigger

[broken valve]

okay thx ! i go do it now

[normal orbit]

its not super important its even, just have them far enough apart

[broken valve]

But is it how you do a single way Y intersection ? one path into 2 blocks ?

[normal orbit]

yes, and then the same from the other two directions

[broken valve]

ok thx a lot !

[fierce granite]

nothing in the screenshot you posted needs path signals, you can just use blocks

[fierce valley]

this and more

[ornate saffron]

The tracks should change colour's as you place them. If it doesnt something is wrong

[broken valve]

ok

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message path signals are more for intersections which can handle multiple trains at once

but they can be a lil complicated at first, so i would start just blocking things off

if you gridlock an intersection you can path it out

[fierce valley]

if i have a constant problem with an intersection, i just convert it into a round a bout

fixed the problem out right

[broken valve]

and how do i place them when there is a train station ? one block right at the entrance and one at the exit ?

[normal orbit]

yes

[broken valve]

speaking of the stop signal

ok thx

[sharp basin]

Can I send you a picture by MP bro, about what we talked about this morning?

[rustic crest]

i can somehow paint walls?

[fierce valley]

by the customizer tool! it's unlocked in the 2nd tier

[rustic crest]

any paint color?

[fierce valley]

any!

[rustic crest]

ill paint the world red

[rain wedge]

not sure is it ideal to bring resources from everywhere of the map and drone them to middle of the map for factory stuff 🤔

[fierce valley]

in the top row you'll have your main swatches for your factory "FICSIT Factory" will apply to all your buildings and machines

[ornate saffron]

It is not ideal.

[normal orbit]

if you rightclick a swatch, you can toggle what it will apply to when building. like if you check pipes, all pipes will use that swatch

[rain wedge]

what if middle of the map for gathering all resources

[ornate saffron]

Steamer and youtuber totalxplise crashed his computer processing all the iron in the dunes in one location lol

[rain wedge]

ok nvm time to cancel my project 💀

[sharp basin]

@normal orbit about my fuel power plant!

[normal orbit]

?

[ornate saffron]

Its fine now but he had to modify his engine files and upgrade his hardware

[sharp basin]

@normal orbit can I send you a picture by PM?

[normal orbit]

post it in screenshots?

[sharp basin]

Yep

@normal orbit done

[normal orbit]

yea, that works

oh god, is the discord issue gonna cause me to get pinged every 20 secons

[fierce valley]

oh so it's an outage

i thought my wifi was bugging

[normal orbit]

imma just turn off notifications until tomorrow or something

[sharp basin]

That’s a looooot of machines for just 1 node 😲

And I could go crazy and use 2

But if I overclock EVERY machine 🤔

[zenith bear]

Every train piece I connect ends up being a weird S shape

Is that normal

[normal orbit]

can overclock em from 60/30 to 100/50 and the maths is just easier :p

[supple canopy]

Ladies and gents, after 2250 hours playing the game, my very first permanent, not half-assed turbomotor factory

#screenshots message

[zenith bear]

I really wish trains had dedicated supports

[fierce valley]

congrats !!!!!! im hoping to get my plant online today, im currently building the steel needed for some pipes

[real shale]

A fellow overhead beam enjoyer

A person of culture finally

[fierce valley]

they actually look incredible i will be borrowing that design trust

[grim carbon]

isv the object scanner good for looking for a few things?

Not good for looking for ores?

[feral jay]

Try laying down section 2 before section 1, then deleting section 2. Then lay down section 3, connect the end of 2 to the start of 3, then delete 3, and repeat like that

If that makes any sense

[normal orbit]

make your own

[zenith bear]

I mean... the S curves aren't that bad I guess

[zenith bear]

That's what I've been doing

[real shale]

#screenshots message

Overhead beams are great

[ornate saffron]

Many of use do that same thing in this case i am using concrete pillars #screenshots message

[feral jay]

By laying down the next section first, you can tell the builder in which direction the current track is supposed to point when it's built

[fierce valley]

That looks super great !!! yeah im def gonna try to incorporate them into future designs, i've mostly use beams indoors to support cable and roofs

[zenith bear]

Yeah I'm still working out how to perfect the angle to get where I need to go

I took an unfortunate route up a mountain

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

Storms run where they want lol

[zenith bear]

The problem shows up when I point my support one direction but place it too far to the other direction

[feral jay]

If I'm not using blueprints to lay track, I'll plop down a short section that tells the builder which way I want the current section to be pointed when it's done. Then I delete that short section, and repeat.

Makes the tracks a lot smoother

[supple canopy]

for train track issues you might wanna watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaB0cbiotY

[silent pagoda]

yes, that video above is THE train video

[sharp basin]

Question is: 3200 fuel/min = how many watts?

[normal orbit]

Oh no. Each gen takes 20 fuel to make 250mw

[feral jay]

What kind of fuel?

[ornate saffron]

(32000/20)x250

[sharp basin]

Wanna use regular fuel with 2 alt recipes to quadruple the production

[feral jay]

THen @ornate saffron is correct. Divide by twenty to calculate the number of generators it will power, then multiply by 250MW

[sharp basin]

40,000 MW

[ornate saffron]

Fuels generators supply 250 regardless of the fuel type for future reference. The difference is burn rates.

So you now have the info you need

[sharp basin]

With only 2 pure nodes

[sharp basin]

Yep! ❤️

Thanks everybody! 🙏

[ornate saffron]

That tracks im making 30gw with 900 oil

[merry rapids]

just bought the game! seems pretty nice! downloading now 😄

[low ingot]

cya in 12 hours

[ornate saffron]

Woot woot

One of us

One of us

[merry rapids]

😄

[potent badge]

Even a BMW doesn't require as much fuel as a tractor in Satisfactory...

[sharp basin]

Meaning 1 pure and 1 normal node?

[ornate saffron]

In this case yes.

[sharp basin]

Where on the map? Using same alt recipes? Normal fuel?

[merry rapids]

do i need to look at guides or can i learn and find stuff on my own? 😄

[ornate saffron]

Im using Heavy oil residue to packaged diluted fuel then unpacked for generator use

[tall lantern]

you can definitely learn on your own, the whole game can be considered one big tutorial

[real shale]

You can mostly learn and find stuff on your own, learning from your mistakes is an effective way to learn

[ornate saffron]

You can learn on your own.

There is many guides though if you wish to go that route

[tall lantern]

my recommendation'd be to try and do it all yourself initially, don't give up on something after 5 minutes - learning to troubleshoot is an invaluable tool.
But, if you do get truly stuck on something, or need a sanity check, then the community is generally happy to help

[sharp basin]

Yeah same. At the western beach?

[tall lantern]

don't worry about perfection early on either

[merry rapids]

alright ty

[ornate saffron]

Yes sir.

Im pretending im new

[sharp basin]

Same here.

[ornate saffron]

I realized I hadn't done a Grasslands start since update 7. So I wanted to see how it is now

[sharp basin]

It’s my 1st playthrough. Still early Phase 3.

[real shale]

I'm new to this game, how do I touch grass

[ornate saffron]

Ah this is my 10th.

[ornate saffron]

Sesame Street has a bit about this

[ornate saffron]

Well seven clears. This is my tenth world

[real shale]

I don't think I could ever start a new save until I've turned the entire map into an ecumenopolis

[sharp basin]

And you’re using basic fuel why? Waiting for rocket/ionized? or nuclear?

[real shale]

Picture it, concrete as far as the eye can see, not a tree in sight, not a piece of wildlife around (except the flying manta rays )

[fierce valley]

Chicago

[uncut sage]

I do not have a satisfactory account, but can i post a bug somewhere ?

[reef basin]

you can make the account on QA site

[potent badge]

What if we make biomass craft in one and not make separate ones with wood and leaves?

[uncut sage]

Do i have to make an account or can i post it without ?

[ornate saffron]

Im going nuclear this time.

Ill process more oil if I must but im trying to use minimal until nuclear

[sharp basin]

I’m thinking the same, except small ionized fuel for drones

And jetpack

[ornate saffron]

Ill probably tap a impure node later for nitro rocket fuel for drones

And jet pack

[reef basin]

need account afaik

[sharp basin]

And how much is 40,000 MW like mid-mid late game?

[reef basin]

depends on scale you build on

[sharp basin]

That I don’t know yet

[reef basin]

then the answer is unknown 🙂

[sharp basin]

For sure 👓

[ornate saffron]

Exactly. You can beat the game on biogenerators only. But your parts per minute reflect that

[sharp basin]

Mmm but if I’m building a fuel power plant on a beach, it has to be an offshore construction right?

[ornate saffron]

It doesnt have to be. You can build into the rock face or on the beach or drag the oil inland

That being said I dont like moving fluids. So I built on the water

[sharp basin]

I mean like an offshore power plant like, you know, a mechanical monster

[ornate saffron]

Im building a barge

#design-and-architecture message

[zenith pecan]

Mississippi riverboat style?

[ornate saffron]

Thats the idea. Still decorating

[sharp basin]

@ornate saffron something like that:

https://youtu.be/vS0NpdaDIBU?is=YvehGe9Q83E7Myzd

[ornate saffron]

Been fighting with fuel line #4 so I havent been decorsting

[zenith pecan]

That's way more off shore than my spire project and its 23 platforms.

[sharp basin]

Nice ❤️

[ornate saffron]

No¿?

[zenith pecan]

How did one of your question marks get drunk and fall over?

[sharp basin]

Don’t like it?

[ornate saffron]

I choose to use that one lol

[ornate saffron]

I have nothing against it (I just flipped through using thumbnails)

Im building a boat

[sharp basin]

This one is cool AF too:

https://youtu.be/uWL7ktftFbI?is=9fKf5_2lpRVsQgLm

[storm hull]

ohh thanks for ptuting the spoilerl i haven't reached that part yet thanks

[ornate saffron]

i try.... sometimes i fail.

[storm hull]

wydm

i'm genuinly thankful not mocking i swear

[ornate saffron]

that was a shot at me. I dont always use the spoiler tag. I try to

[storm hull]

oh okay you trying ur best thats fine

mayn i wanna play the game but i'm afraid the next sale will make the game cheaper, i have 20 mins left till its nun refundable

[unkempt blade]

yeah but also ||factory carts can be used with truck stations||

[ornate saffron]

not likely they are pretty consistant with there sales data.

there is websites that track steam sales. if you want to give yourself piece of mind

Although its a game that oyu will likely spend 100 plus on. to me that is worth the $50 price

[unkempt blade]

30% off has been the standard sale for a while. I wouldn't expect anything cheaper for now

[reef basin]

just keep it

[bleak valley]

I forgot how annoying early game power is

[storm hull]

yeah i've saw it the game currently is like 73 or soimething which is alot but i truly love the game

[bleak valley]

I’m Speedrunning coal

[storm hull]

i hope so

[ebon cobalt]

i just tried loading up my save and compared to yesterday im getting horrible performance
maxing out gpu on the menu :<

[ornate saffron]

i awlays forget too

[storm hull]

Alright then its worth it for me personalyl just hte price yk

[storm hull]

do i click or is this not for me

[unkempt blade]

you just need to use more ||factory carts driving on hamster wheel turbines||

[bleak valley]

True

[ornate saffron]

no spoiler mostly pro tip

[storm hull]

okay thanks

4 hour grind now

thank you all tiwns

[unkempt blade]

it's schrodinger's spoiler

[ornate saffron]

better then

Schrodingers fluids. Been fighting that BS for three days. I think its fixed now

[unkempt blade]

I've heard looping it solves that too

[versed cosmos]

looping gives the fluid an extra pathway it can go down

[ornate saffron]

oh, ive tried horizontal loops, vertical loops, no loops smaller manifolds. prettt sure i was just cursed.

[versed cosmos]

that lets you get above your max pipe throughput so losses can be made up for

[ornate saffron]

i was below limit. In fact i made 4 identical fuel lines 3 of 4 worked perfect the 4th refused

[unkempt blade]

It also solves physics thought experiments. It really is a versatile strategy

[ornate saffron]

but it is solved now. 2 hours no issues even when i stopped watching it and ran to the other side of the map.

well ziplined

[jagged nymph]

no mancannon?

[ornate saffron]

puke cannon, no thankyou

[unkempt blade]

I'd run there backwards because it's easier on your knees

[real shale]

Id go there by factory cart

[mystic oriole]

Trains are a great way to travel

[west jackal]

study for exam tommorow or satisfactory...

there is only 1 correct answer here

[mystic oriole]

why is that a question?

The factory must grow

[west jackal]

eh, i need to prepare a formula sheet

but im an engineer major so satisfactory is LIKE studying... right?

[mystic oriole]

I use to study, but now that I'm graduated... I don't

[urban mulch]

Hello guys

There was a 🇫🇷 french server for sastisfactory, but seems i can't find it anymore

[mystic oriole]

Oh they must have retreated.

[west jackal]

this is my last semester. i only have 2 classes, exam tommorow and an exam on thursday. The thursday is the only one im even slightly worried about bc that teacher is awful

[mystic oriole]

good luck!

[west jackal]

but i also need to do a pcb design, which is going to really cut into my factory time 🙁

[west jackal]

thanks!

[urban mulch]

why 😢

[west jackal]

im hoping to get rcu/aluminum setup today

[mystic oriole]

Some WW2 humor for you, that's all.

[mystic oriole]

should concentrate on aluminum first then RCU.

[west jackal]

well, yeah, but i want to bring all of the worlds aluminum to one place, but im going to use a alt that uses blender

so i need to rush rcu

or.. buy them with tickets? lol

[mystic oriole]

ah, makes sense. Coupons will help

[deft drum]

Just setup a couple instant scrap recipies, get some dirty RCU automation going, and then forget to go back and clean it up

[zenith pecan]

All the worlds bauxite into one place is a slightly long build, I hope you're prepared for it.

[mystic oriole]

Damn how'd you know my last playthrough?

[deft drum]

Also, wdym? Only thing new Blender needs is aluminum Casing

[west jackal]

thats what im worried about

[ornate saffron]

i thought about pinging you but decided not to

[deft drum]

And casing is just straight aluminum ingots

[zenith pecan]

About going bauxite loopy?

[normal orbit]

can make it a u shape and its less long :)

[ornate saffron]

ya lol

[loud surge]

new to game, just about to start my first caterium miner, found a pure node but theres a big rock on it, is this a bug or is there a way to remove it? is the games way of saying i cant have pure nodes this early? lmao

[reef basin]

you unlock way to remove it in the future

but there are nodes without the boulders blocking it

[ornate saffron]

there is a Research part of the game the solution is within that mechanic

[loud surge]

ahhh okay okay, was excite to finda pure node and then it wouldnt let me removie it 🙁 ah well onwards and upwards

[reef basin]

pure nodes are not that good early anyway

[loud surge]

yeah my belts wont carry enough, i was just pleased with myself basically all nodes i find are impure

[reef basin]

those are the best for early and for new people imo

[loud surge]

good to know, cheers

[molten vessel]

…Are there purple slugs, or am I seeing something oddly?

[reef basin]

yes

[ornate saffron]

There is.

|| they give 5 power shards each. Ten if the machine is fitted with a soomersloop"||

[molten vessel]

I just have to figure out how to reach it…

Super depressing that the Hatchery things still send bugs out after you in Retaliate mode

[deft drum]

i just disable aggression in general

[ornate saffron]

It doesnt directly attack you. It just releases flies.

The flies attack you

[deft drum]

i find the combat of this game a drag

[molten vessel]

Does that stop them?

[supple canopy]

they attack in retaliate? or just fly around?

[molten vessel]

Yes/No

Disabling Aggression stops the flies.

[ornate saffron]

No matter your aggression mode flies are released

[molten vessel]

And they attack? Or just fly?

[ornate saffron]

Just hang out in passive mode

[molten vessel]

Which the flies won’t attack me in?!

[deft drum]

passive or retaliate the flies ignore you

[molten vessel]

I gotta say the flies will attack me in Retaliate.

But nothing else does, even when I hit them.

I was not in Passive at those times.

[sick falcon]

whats the console command to set time day

[bleak valley]

If I don’t set up coal power soon I might cry

[untold zealot]

Quick question - Compacted Coal. Is.. there a situation where I might want to make it (Coal+Sulfur)? I don't feel I'm exactly coal limited anytime soon

[sick falcon]

its used in munitions and fuel production

its not rly meant to be burned on its own

[untold zealot]

Aaaaah, so it's a part of something for later. Gotcha!

[void cliff]

Best situations to burn compacted coal for power are when: you have limited coal and extra sulfur nearby, or, you’re generating compacted coal as a byproduct of rocket fuel

[deft drum]

depends on where you are, i am using compacted coal fuel generators because i want all the other coal nearby for my steel
but later it can be combined with Fuel to make even betterer fuel. which can then be further refined into the best fuel type in the game.
now all rocket fuel recipes also make even more compacted coal as a byproduct, this can be used to make more turbofuel for rocket fuel or burned for extra powah
if you have power to burn you can also use compacted coal to make Steel, though it's a very slow process per machine it does give you the most steel per iron ore iirc

[sick falcon]

(the first one will never happen) (the second one is better off fed back into the rocket fuel loop/turned into steel)

[molten vessel]

I miss when crashed pods didn’t ask me to jump through hoops…

[void cliff]

There’s at least one place on the map where you have just a single coal and sulfur node. It makes sense to do it for power there, when you don’t have logistics unlocked yet

[deft drum]

and of course the best rocket fuel recipe skips compacted coal but still gives it as a byproduct

[sick falcon]

woe, 400mw of power and a superposition oscillator upon thee

[reef basin]

well, "best" is subjective

[sick falcon]

death to nitro rocket fuel

[deft drum]

it skips so many steps

very worth

[molten vessel]

Wait, there’s gonna be combo ones? Ugh.

Well, power reqs are fine.

This one wants a material I can’t make yet, and wasn’t polite enough to have some of that material among the debris…

[sick falcon]

yea at the cost of twice the sulfur

[sick falcon]

no, those are just the two worst ones

nothing requires 2 things

[reef basin]

well, again, that is subjective to you

[glad drum]

just add the word "generally" and you'd be correct

[reef basin]

usually skipping steps comes with increased resource costs or something like that

(not to mention that it depends on other recipes in the chain)

[deft drum]

what else are you using the for sulfur bro? waste free (non-Ficsonium) Nuclear uses at most 23% of the maps sulfur

[sick falcon]

true, this is why base plastic and rubber are better than recycled plastic and rubber

[sick falcon]

nothing, but usually theres more oil available in an area than sulfur

[molten vessel]

Is each pod’s requirement predetermined? Or have I just been missing all the baseline pods without reqs since my first one?

[reef basin]

yeah they are fixed

[deft drum]

it is not random

[tall lantern]

predetermined

and usually the "easier" ones are closer to the starting points

[deft drum]

very little randomness in what you find in the world

[molten vessel]

I’m tempted to start using the map I’ve heard discussed, I just want pods…

[tall lantern]

luckily the Alien Tech MAM tree has two very useful things in for this sorta thing

[deft drum]

and for those who use it, Instant Scrap maxes out at 38% of the sulfur

[glad drum]

arguably none! you could count the steps animals takes though i suppose

[sick falcon]

with the resources around the blue crater you can get 9000 rocket fuel with base recipe but only 5000 with nitro

[deft drum]

i wasn't 100% sure if all animal spawns were fixed or just around PoIs

[deft drum]

that is true.

[sick falcon]

and routing trains across the entire map to consolidate all the sulfur is more steps than just using normal recipe

[deft drum]

(looks at my plan to only use drones for my lategame logistics powered by Plutonium)

[sick falcon]

wait i never thought of that

[keen flame]

hi, is there a way to get rid of the rocks on my world? i dont have any bushes or trees near them to cut down

[glad drum]

bombs

[sick falcon]

bypassing the plutonium waste + ficsonium bs by just using the rods in drones

[deft drum]

"you know what makes me a good demoman?"

[sick falcon]

research sulfur tree in the MAM

[proud leaf]

guys my factory is aboslute mess

how can i fix it?

[keen flame]

okay thank you very much everyone

[sick falcon]

use foundations to snap all the buildings to a grid, and plan ahead

[keen flame]

idk i just remade mine today

[deft drum]

i am like 95% sure it would take a LOT of drones to use up all the plutonium rods but yeah, my plan is to use the mfor drones and sin kthe rest

[weak bloom]

man aluminum scrap is produced in such high quantities that I'm starting to run into belt limits trying to even get it out of my refineries in a reasonably efficient manner x_x

[proud leaf]

hmm i think i wanna get how is it called oil is it

[tall lantern]

cover it up, make a note of what you didn't like, take those lessons for next time. No point rebuilding a working but messy factory

[sick falcon]

luckily aluminum belts fix that problem :)

[proud leaf]

then ima do that

[keen flame]

also why the heck are all coal supplies on top of hills that i cant parkour up to

[river marsh]

holy bro phase 3 is a journey, learned so much during this time and made my first decent factory for adaptive control.. the satisfaction is real

[deft drum]

gotta RAMP up your thinking

[sick falcon]

use observation towers to climb things in the early game

[keen flame]

i cant get up there i tried that

[proud leaf]

if anyone wants to see my mess of a starter factory i put in screenshots 😭 :

[keen flame]

ikr the game is no clickbait at all

the sounds are amazing i love just listening to the hammer and gear sounds in crafting

and machinery working

[glad drum]

you can also just use ladders

[river marsh]

a bit ragebait at times but thats how we learn ig

[keen flame]

it is, indeed, satisfactory

[fierce valley]

it's quite satisfactory isn't it

[molten vessel]

Even in Passive Arachnophobia mode, I still feel nervous around Stingers

[river marsh]

yessir

[keen flame]

i would love to be part of this community

i already love the game

[reef basin]

wel arachnophobia mode is not supposed to make them less scary

[fierce valley]

congradulations you are onw !!

[deft drum]

is it Making building supplies and progressing the game? if so it's a working factory!

[weak bloom]

not really, you still can only put 2 refineries' worth into one belt with either recipe. still a lot of belts x_x

[keen flame]

it is probably going straight to my favorite game slot after some more time

[deft drum]

just consider it a blessing being able to build it that dense

[glad drum]

a trade off for not seeing spiders is that the cats are actually more terrifying

[solemn vapor]

if i put fuel into the unload station of my truck will the truck take the fuel?

[glad drum]

No you need to put fuel into the fuel area

[deft drum]

need to put the fuel into the fuel intake port (the one that isn't stacked)

[solemn vapor]

yeah ik but im talking about the unload station

im moving iron from the load station into the unload station

but im worried if i put the fuel into the fuel slot of the unload station it wont load into the car

[deft drum]

iirc it takes enough for a round trip from one station

[fierce valley]

truth super nova

[deft drum]

when you're feeling burnt out (if at all) there are other games like Satisfactory

[keen flame]

ive got about a 100 hours of playing the game before i get burnt out

[glad drum]

I really just want Satisfactory but it's a roller coaster builder.

[river marsh]

is there a way to go third person?

[deft drum]

then it'll be time to play some Factorio!

[broken valve]

Hello, i have (another) problem with train signals ... Ive got multiples train stop in a row, all my track is segmented in block signals lit in green (no problems), but at the part where there is my 3 train stop, the path signal say signal loop into himself ... idk how to fix it

[reef basin]

post with images in #1038092680493801533

[broken valve]

all right

[sick falcon]

are the signals placed directly where the track splits

[reef basin]

wait for the thread and move it there

[sick falcon]

that breaks them, place them a bit back from the intersection

[broken valve]

just a little bit ahead, or directly at the junction

[sick falcon]

dont place them directly at the junction, they dont like that for some reason

[broken valve]

ok

hum now its too late i think 😭

ill see if someone can help me fix it, and if not ill rebuild it

[reef basin]

post the images in the thread 🙂

[broken valve]

yep, im taking the images now

[normal orbit]

take one pic with the signal build mode on so colors show, helps a lot

[broken valve]

done !

ok

[amber scroll]

🥭

[carmine leaf]

i tried to set up a tractor route, but it doesnt really work when two different items are close to each other. i also dont have a smart splitter to split the items to correct storage XD

[proud leaf]

ye but its a literal maze

😭

[drowsy kelp]

you can get through any maze by flying over it

[sharp basin]

Just got a doubt, 1.2 on console the 17th too?

[normal orbit]

no

[tall lantern]

console doesn't do experimental afaik

[normal orbit]

experimental is pc only

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[tall lantern]

you'll have to wait for the actually tested version

[sharp basin]

MONTHS?

[tall lantern]

probably a few yeah

[sharp basin]

That’s terrible news man

[tall lantern]

they vary, but it's usually on that order

[normal orbit]

1.1 took nearly 2,5 months on experimental before it hit live

[sharp basin]

Terrible

It’s like may or june

[tall lantern]

PC FTW, though of course the Experimental players get all the new bugs as well as the new features

[sharp basin]

Yeah but the wait will be even worse since I’ll KNOW what I’ll be expecting

[storm hull]

is there a way to automate wood/leaves haven't built the space ship yet

[tall lantern]

never

there are other power sources available later than can be automated though, and you can at least automate processing the wood/leaves into better fuels

[normal orbit]

gotta use your grabby mittens, or the chainsaw

[storm hull]

oh okay thanks

o

where can i send pictures
nvm screenshots

[tall lantern]

depends what you want to do with them

if you have questions to go with them, then somewhere like #1038092680493801533 would be more appropriate

[storm hull]

no just like a pic of my factory

[tall lantern]

but if you just want to show off what you've done, #screenshots is fine

[storm hull]

indeed

thank you

[sharp basin]

There is kind of a way, you can duplicate leaves/wood/solid biofuel and only that if you don’t wanna cheat too much

[storm hull]

turning it into bio leaves? is that what you mean? or?

[sharp basin]

You duplicate whatever product you want

[west jackal]

there is a way to double item output from machines that you unlock later in the MAM

[storm hull]

o nevermind thanks

[storm hull]

ooo i see thanks

[west jackal]

its an intended mechanic, its part of the game. not cheating or glitches

[storm hull]

ohh thats better to say than cheat

[west jackal]

yes

[sharp basin]

Just wanted to point out that solution just in case

[tall lantern]

they might not be the same thing

[west jackal]

all i can say (if this is your first playthrough) research stuff in the MAM!

[tall lantern]

slooping is definitely an intended mechanic, so would be weird to call that cheating

[west jackal]

there are a lot of VERRRRRRRRRY nice things in the MAM

[storm hull]

alrighr alright thankss

[west jackal]

was trying to avoid saying what it was called so they could discover it on their own 🙂

[storm hull]

i haven't reached htat parrt yet but will do

[tall lantern]

I'm sure the word means nothing to 'em 😆

[west jackal]

yeah the game has a lot going on, once you get off biomass it speeds up

[west jackal]

youre probably right lol

[sharp basin]

Cheating?

[storm hull]

maynn, its fine i guess i hope i forget that

[tall lantern]

whatever you were referring to here

[storm hull]

i don't know anything else about it tho i think

[west jackal]

no worries, ive been playing since early access started so ive been around for most of the things they have added (and removed)

[sharp basin]

It exists, I use it to some extends, I just don’t abuse it

[storm hull]

infact it doens't have a meaning for me

[sharp basin]

Like automating packaged liquid biofuel

[tall lantern]

you can have enough semi-automated by just slapping a few storage crates down

[sharp basin]

I know! It’s just that it’s done, I don’t have to think about it anymore!

[west jackal]

the easiest way to automate biofuel is sinking products and buying biomass haha

also no point in liquid biofuel? only thing is liquid biofuel maybe but can do turbo fuel or just slap down 1 crate of wood and sloop some constructors 🤷‍♂️

i just use fuel for now, will package a little rocket fuel

[sharp basin]

I just bought loooots of solid biofuel and then made a factory for packaged liquid biofuel for my jetpack, early phase 3

[west jackal]

when you say phase 3, do you mean tier5/6?

[sharp basin]

Yep

So still early game

[west jackal]

can do turbo fuel at t5

[sharp basin]

And I’ll stick with packaged liquid biofuel for a loooong time

[sharp basin]

I know but I got other plans

[ornate saffron]

thought you were making packaged Fuel for power anytways

[west jackal]

i just never bother with packaged biofuel, its just too much hassle, normal fuel is fine, bio is too slow for me. ill set aside some rocket for myself

[sharp basin]

Yep, just for power

[sharp basin]

Longest fly time of all fuels!

[ornate saffron]

by holding jump the whole time yes. But the other fuels are better if you feather the use

[west jackal]

A. Its kinda irrelevant, i never need to fly long, it has substanially less HEIGHT than tfuel

and i get plenty far with man cannon/fuel

[sharp basin]

I just unlocked it, goes very well with my hypertube canons 😛

[forest tangle]

Hope it's not a dumb question, is there a use for slugs other than power shards? Or should I convert them all to shards as soon as I get them?

[tall lantern]

mostly shards, and a lil research

[ornate frost]

I made a little building for making me liquid biofuel, can just dump any biological materials into it and get fuel out, its pretty sweet

[tall lantern]

though if you can, best to hold onto them until you unlock a particular bit of research in the Alien Tech MAM tree, get more bang for your buck

though even without that, there's over 2500 shards worth of slugs on the map

[sharp basin]

I do agree 😝

[west jackal]

dont convert all yet

[forest tangle]

kk thanks

[west jackal]

youll understand why later, but only convert what you need for now

interesting, i didnt know if you fed recycled rubber into recycled plastic you could keep making more and more plastic

[tall lantern]

it's referred to as the recycled loop for a reason 😛

needs a lil to kickstart (typically Residual Rubber) but can sustain itself

[sharp basin]

Very good alt recipes apparently

[tall lantern]

great resource efficiency, in exchange for refinery spam, complexity, space, power

[west jackal]

only doing 3 recycled rubber, so a stack of rubber in each should be plenty right?

[west jackal]

especially paired with diluted fuel and HOR alt

[tall lantern]

the holy quadrilogy

[torpid estuary]

hey, so, 3 times out of 5 I am getting a crash on startup. I do have mods but the exact same crash, same stack trace, same behavior also happens with no mods installed. I keep reporting that through the unreal engine error dialog - do I also need to report it on the Q&A site?

[west jackal]

i have to use diluted packaged though, havent got blender 🙁

[tall lantern]

but yeah, despite its apparent resource efficiency, it isn't just free stuff

[west jackal]

any more details? and you say no mods, did you make sure to actually disable them?

[tall lantern]

you could try #1038092680493801533 with the crash log text

[west jackal]

yeah q and h would be better

[torpid estuary]

I can double check

ok will check out https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[torpid estuary]

I shall double check

[torpid estuary]

according to satisfactory mod manager they are off. I have a big red button to prove it

[tall lantern]

the crash log'll tell you if you've still got mods

[west jackal]

then yeah, would need crash log. there are a lot of things it could be

[torpid estuary]

Assertion failed: UserAccountId.IsValid() is what stands out

[west jackal]

are you playing a legit copy..?

[torpid estuary]

I would hope so

[west jackal]

steam or epic?

[torpid estuary]

I bought it twice, this is my Steam version

[west jackal]

are you logged into your steam acct

(and steam running)

[tall lantern]

searched for that error, not the first to encounter it
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1455778418464526388

[ornate saffron]

There is aways to maximize your power shard output of slugs.

its found in the MAM

|| you fit a constructer with a soomersloop which double the output at the cost of 4x the power||

[real shale]

What if I put a sloop in the pioneer

[jagged nymph]

you produce 2x when handcrafting

[low ingot]

there is one research tree in MAM that requires 1 of each slug i think, maybe 2 purples total, after that no, they are are only needed to turn into power shards

[tall lantern]

no available input slot

[ornate saffron]

that is what the APU is for

[leaden turret]

suit is a sealed unit

[real shale]

SPU?