satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

im okay with a date everything sim added to the game. I bet the MAM is a freak

[tall lantern]

gonna replace the space elevator with a golf hole in space, gotta get good aim on your swing if you don't want to waste your smart plating

[unkempt blade]

Subnautica is a survival/exploration game with a sprinkle of building. This is the opposite 🤣

[last bluff]

I was promised a factory game and got slightly disappointed but it's nice

[sharp basin]

Feel you. Subnautica is my absolute favourite GOTY of the century. I need more Subnautica in Satisfactory. That’s just me. 💦

[last bluff]

subnautica is also different in another aspect
||it has a story||

[ornate saffron]

'were you, I was promised a mytery thriller and i l felt like i got it (subnaughtica i mean)

[twin parcel]

i feel like satisfactory had potential but nah they stick to automation mostly

[ornate saffron]

i cam to satisfy my autism not story kik

[unkempt blade]

yeah satis has more of a mood than a plot

[last bluff]

I remember even some convos in the GTCEu Discord mentioning Satisfactory as a good game so I guess my expectations were off from the start

good game it is tho

[sharp basin]

I know about all that. Just look at the HUB. It misses a FEW tiny little things, just so I FEEL I’m part of that world.

[last bluff]

like the update finally completing?

Bonzi Buddy?

[twin parcel]

ur in an alien planet ? like add unique creatures with special mechanics and maybe capture those creatures alive , build a prison and generate electricity from them ?

[last bluff]

so Palworld?

[brazen pecan]

why are the stingers so scary 😭

[twin parcel]

horyfying creatures mate , not cute pokemons

[proven snow]

Because you don't have arachnophobia mode on, silly

[unkempt blade]

I was more entertained by Palworld than I expected to be. A lot of the game systems are really shallow but it was still a fun playthrough with a group

[last bluff]

I don't turn arachnophobia mode on but I love how Black Mirror it is

[fluid sapphire]

Announcement today? When

[proven snow]

stream starting in 12 minutes

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, great

[last bluff]

oh game systems can go really deep, just rip it requires a lot of grinding

ever tried to work towards the best pals?

[twin parcel]

they arent , just pull this ultimate technique if u found them . Its called "run for ur life"

[ornate saffron]

that would be a different game though. Every game has more things not in it then in it. The more you try to satisfy everyone the chances of you satisfying anyone goes down.

This game has a great mod community. check there as there is so much. Farming, survival, Grueling combat, Creature capture. and much more. The link to the modding discord is in #welcome making it that much easier to customize your experience.

Personally i am happy with how the game is and i see all and any conituned supprt from the team a bonus and a gift

[unkempt blade]

We turned down a lot of timers for stuff like eggs to speed that up a bit. There was a bit too much waiting

[last bluff]

most of satisfactory grinding is blueprints being small and zoop being a bit limited, so lots of clicking

other than that, the automation actually automating is nice

[fluid sapphire]

Nothing you can't tweak with mods if that's what you want :p

[brazen pecan]

when they jump to you like a jackrabbit, I think I can't

[rancid turret]

https://tenor.com/view/we-live-cordae-amari-dunston-ybn-cordae-are-we-live-are-we-already-recording-gif-26762755

css is live

[twin parcel]

run in circles mate , not straight line .

[fluid sapphire]

I think the limitations are supposed to make you embrace the process more and think more about exactly how you place stuff

[brazen pecan]

aaah yeaah

[fluid sapphire]

It's actually pretty crazy I think, what you can do with the limited space of blueprints

[ornate saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOkCbcu2cME

[ornate saffron]

limitations breed creativety

[rancid turret]

when they jump you can dodge by going left or right, though my strategy is use a hoverpack to stay at max height and rain down fire

[fluid sapphire]

Exactly

[last bluff]

Oh I've personally modded it up the wazoo
Circuitry and SF+ my beloved

[rancid turret]

or just run around screaming in terror

[fluid sapphire]

Fair, yeah, I like the limitations present in vanilla

[rancid turret]

#screenshots message me @ whoever decided to fill this cave with alpha stingers

[last bluff]

Agreed to that where they make sense, some "QoL" mods are just gamebreaking

cough 100x inventory slots cough

[fluid sapphire]

Peaceful mode 👍

[rancid turret]

why, we got depots

[ornate saffron]

When i was a kid We didnt have lamps. the only lights built into the apprtment was in the kitchen and washroom that was it

@8 years old a dragged home a chandelier i found in the garbage and made lamps from it.

You make do with the resources and tools you have. Its nice to have more but satisfactory has given us so much to use

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, I find the feature set so rich, particularly after the 1.1 patch, it does feel quite complete now

Vertical nudge and auto connect were the the final pieces missing for me

[feral jay]

pssht, when I was a kid, we walked to school in the snow, in bare feet, uphill both ways. We had to cross a river in a leaky boat, I would row and my sister would bail water, or we'd sink.

[rancid turret]

the only mod I really like is curve builder

being able to lay down foundations at arbitrary curves is very powerful

[fluid sapphire]

It would be nice to have a nicer way to make curved structures in vanilla though, for sure :p

[last bluff]

Limitations in resources, logistics, where you can survive at all 👌

[unkempt blade]

I play vanilla the way the benevolent and all-knowing creators intended for us to play

[last bluff]

Grassy Fields start?

[unkempt blade]

the trick is to roll a dice for any decision like that

[fluid sapphire]

People give grass fields flak, but it's actually the goat

[last bluff]

ANOTHER IMPURE NODE
I LOVE IMPURE NODES

[fluid sapphire]

It's more than fine when you are starting out

Pushes you to spread out immediately

[sharp basin]

Nothing on YT page for now

[last bluff]

Grass fields feel like the exploration and MAM start, where building a factory is a pain but you can get to many spaces with just belts and all wildlife is non-Alpha

[unkempt blade]

I'm not a fan of grassy fields but the annoying parts really only last until like T3

[normal orbit]

Jason is a plant? :p

[last bluff]

Cybertruck

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'm quite fond of Grass Fields start, though I can see why folks who aren't in an expansion mindset wouldn't like it

[fluid sapphire]

The cliffs and whatnot are only a pain until you unlock foundations

[ornate saffron]

i do llike me all the starts. But forest is my fav so far

[last bluff]

Forest my beloved

There's something nice about seeing the treeless field expand as you need to expand

[white dawn]

Yeah, in the end they're all quite good. And for those like me who are usually in an expansion mindset, it sort of doesn't even matter 'cause it's not like you're gonna stay there. :D

[ornate saffron]

march 17 for exprementqal

[normal orbit]

as expected :p

[fickle forge]

yo

[ornate saffron]

selfy mode confirmed

[sharp burrow]

I thought we were getting a video of the 1.2 content?

[vale quail]

its probley next

[sharp burrow]

disappointing lol

[twin parcel]

screw this imma just build 2000+ concrete/min factory and sink the excess lol.

[white dawn]

If they follow past patterns, they'll presumably be drip-feeding us feature videos over the next few weeks

They tend to like to build up to stuff rather than dump all at once. :)

[hazy ember]

new hypertube supports structures?

[leaden turret]

just the release date, patch notes video comes during the launch stream generally

[mortal ginkgo]

we will get a video showing what 1.2 brings soon

i hope it is impure limestone node related

Yes.

[proven snow]

randomized impure limestone nodes

[sharp basin]

March the 17th

[mortal ginkgo]

you have the potential to be a dev with such insight and knowledge

[mortal ginkgo]

oh no, was it just a video release date for today? bummer.

[normal orbit]

new game mode is all nodes are impure limestone

[mortal ginkgo]

eh.. teasers for a teaser just feels.. meh.

[proven snow]

Sounded like we get 1.2 experimental on March 17th, and we get a vid/stream of all features included in 1.2 also march 17th

[ornate saffron]

during the last two streams they said thats all it would be lol

[mortal ginkgo]

My sadness is INSURMOUNTABLE 😭😭😭

o well it is what it is.

[ornate saffron]

full patch notes and reveals on st patties day

[sharp basin]

You can’t even take a selfie of you being sad bro

[leaden turret]

sometimes they forget to include things in the patch notes video

[mortal ginkgo]

why do you have to hurt me like this big dawg 😔😔😔

[sharp basin]

Cuz I’m hurt too

[mortal ginkgo]

very well.. I will go back to decorating.. with massive sadness.

[sharp basin]

Same, I’m still phase 2, got a LOT of work

I can live without trucks for now

[full yoke]

In satisfactory's new teaser for 1.2 at the end of the video there are rain drops with a rain sound effect. Maybe we will have a weather system in 1.2?

[sharp basin]

It’s already been confirmed

[feral jay]

We'll have rain again, yes. That much was confirmed.

[mortal ginkgo]

yes plz. i am at phase 2. I need to look beautiful and pretty when phase 3 comes

[full yoke]

Lets goo!!

[mortal ginkgo]

I hope we also get intense rain storms while in swamp because that place needs to be more dangerous at night too.

Yes.

[sharp basin]

Working on motors and stators, not even reached phase 2 products

[ornate saffron]

are they not phase 2 products?

or do you mean you have yet to start phase 2 for the elevator? which is smart plates I think?

[full yoke]

Another theory I have is related to how the 2 in 1.2 is presented, it's nailed in specifically using a power drill. Maybe we will see something related to the build gun having an upgrade?

[normal orbit]

stators need steel, so yea, phase 2

[sharp basin]

Yeah I mean elevator stuff

[ornate saffron]

do you not already have smart plates automated ?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am taking days literally to make my smelter stuff #design-and-architecture message

[sharp basin]

I dismantled it, it was spaghettified in the grassy fields

[ornate saffron]

ah, Well in that case you may as well plan out your modular engines when you rebuild and save yourself some work lol

[mortal ginkgo]

you normies do it like that. we the mental deco people delete everything and make it all more advanced and prettier.

we are not the same 👁️👄👁️

[sharp basin]

Can’t be a normy and play that game. Be realistic.

[mortal ginkgo]

sorry big dawg 😔

[sharp basin]

Gonna build a factory for all 3 phase 2 elevator products

I guess

[ornate saffron]

phase 1 smart plates,
phase 2 smart plates
phase 3 Versatile frames, ACU and Modular engines.

I hand fed the Frames this time,

ACU is one factory and modular engines are another. Im just moving the smart plates from phase 2 to the Engine facility via Factory cart

[normal orbit]

phase 2: smart plates, versatile frameworks and automated wiring

[ornate saffron]

ty i couldnt remember

[upbeat jacinth]

Did they leak less 1.2 stuff than in the previous teaser

[normal orbit]

just selfie mode, didnt see any new buildables

[ornate saffron]

today annoucement was always supposed to be just the release date for experimental

they said as much during every live stream this year lol

[normal orbit]

tho i'm sure some youtuber will hyper analyze it pixel by pixel :p

[upbeat jacinth]

And doubling down on the road theme

[ornate saffron]

i Hope we can Ginyu force some selfies
#off-topic-media message

[unkempt blade]

Mk2 factory cart confirmed by having AI analyze the video background. The missing pixels spell "Mk2 Carts Can Fly"

I don't touch YT though. That's how you catch the brain rot

[normal orbit]

its not all bad,i like the science channels like kurzgesagt and veritasium

[coral marsh]

@brisk warren I see you learnt from Homer Simpson for when it comes to fishing

[unkempt blade]

That's how the algorithm gets you! The gateway videos are supposed to lull you into a false sense of security

[coral marsh]

What about styropyro

[normal orbit]

not seen that one

[coral marsh]

YouTube really isnt that bad lmfao, also, YouTube isnt tiktok and its not Facebook. Its not near as bad as one may think, if all you see is brain rotten shit, then youve failed to curate your feed and maintain it

[brisk warren]

its quick and efficient!

[coral marsh]

Oh hes amazing, latest video he did was 400 car batteries, ended up causing a couple insane phenomena

🤣

[supple canopy]

try to go on youtube without prebuilding an algorithm. It's all brainrot

[unkempt blade]

So what you're saying is as long as I actively work against the bad parts it's ok?

[supple canopy]

everytime i go on youtube not logged in like on another computer the algo is HELL

[coral marsh]

Then build it up, search the things that you like, you customize your feed manually until it recognizes what you like

[coral marsh]

You could say the same about life you know

[supple canopy]

yes but my point is for someone that don't use youtube, going on it nowadays is really off putting

[unkempt blade]

So now we're saying everything is bad including youtube?

[pale tree]

when they add rain back what if the swamp had permanent rain

[coral marsh]

No one should take something at face value, always learn it before you judge. "Dont judge a book by its cover"

[coral marsh]

For god sakes, my point is, YouTube isnt as bad as some people would rather say it is. You literally just need to personalize it, unless you're a 5 year old child, you're not/never going to stick with yhe default YouTube feed, people will always search for what they know and like and thats how it ends up being personalized for you or anyone else. It wont stay brain rotten as long as you put the goddamn fking effort in, to personalize it.

YouTube isnt all great, I will admit that it does have its downfalls

[leaden turret]

enshitification of the algorithm is #off-topic-general or #off-topic-tech depending on pov

[coral marsh]

Like the amount of adds on free Yt, that is annoying

[unkempt blade]

Sorry I have strong feelings about factory carts and the decay of the internet

[weak bloom]

If I set up 2 trains on the same loop going in the same direction, do I need any signaling or will they be fine to not hit each other?

[coral marsh]

Might be best to tie it all into one train, just double down on the freight or fluid cars needed

[normal orbit]

might wanna signal just in case

[weak bloom]

Hmm ok. I'm just thinking ahead because this loop will break once I get mk6 belts (not fast enough) but at that stage I'll probably be rebuilding the entire train network lol

Would it just be a block signal before the stations?

[normal orbit]

could do minimum effort and just make two blocks, one per train :p

[last bluff]

doggo gave me a bomb

[normal orbit]

Actually. Need three blocks

[glad drum]

I'm not sure if anyone realized but in the latest announcement video, they accidentally let slip the release date for 1.2 Experimental. You really have to pay attention to catch it though, so not everyone may have realized.

[ornate saffron]

did you see the Doggos Dabbing

[mossy fulcrum]

what was it?

[glad drum]

Uh.. of course.

[ornate saffron]

st patties day

[glad drum]

I hope one day the announcement video can be from within my spaghetti pile. I just need to put in a few hundred more hours to get it up to standard.

[mossy fulcrum]

I really love that the somersloops look like the S that everyone used to draw

[last bluff]

I found it. The release date is "backup your saves"

[glad drum]

Or maybe the S that we used to draw was the Somersloop all along... hmm

[last bluff]

WHOA STORY SPOILERS

[ornate saffron]

yes its the cool S

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[last bluff]

Bro is slooping all his machines with these

[bold heron]

great and sad 3 weaks for 1.2 , just after my vaccation.
so 1.1 in vaccation it is.

[zenith bear]

H E A R O U R S O N G

[mossy fulcrum]

How do I do trains?

[versed cosmos]

place two stations and a track between them and place a train on the tracks with locomotives on both ends

enter the train, hit q, and edit the timetable, and start auto pilot

that's the most basic train you can make

[mental wraith]

Yo
What's the best place to start ?

[reef basin]

any that you like

there's no "best" in this game

[mental wraith]

Surely there must be a place that is favorable to development and where there are many resources, right?

[ornate saffron]

the game is a lot of player driven choices, asking for any specific thing like "what is most effiecient" will retrieve answers like "It depends" and views solely on vibes and preferences.

[mental wraith]

I played it 4 or 5 years ago and I remember it was better to start on flat areas

[reef basin]

not really, since by T3 the game expects you to start expanding all over the map, so the choice is irrelevant really

[mental wraith]

So the desert is a good choice?

[reef basin]

all of them are

[ornate saffron]

there is four starting areas all are really good. As descirbed in the game the grasslands is best for new players.

where it lacks some resources as a hand crafted map it has things to help new players learn

but all four areas are great

[mental wraith]

Alrighty

Thanks for the information, I'll take the desert

[ornate saffron]

desert it is. One choice down Infinity ahead!

bottom right side of the screen is a key for shortcuts. by default N is calculator and quick search

[mental wraith]

Thanks :)

Now I'm getting ready to play and sacrifice any social life until the end of this year. And probably lose my job

LETSSS START

Wait

If I want friends to join me sometimes, I shouldn't select "solo"?

Knowing that I'm on Steam and some are on Epic

And I use two PCs, one for hosting and another for gaming

[ornate saffron]

I dont know maybe #dedicated-servers help?

[mental wraith]

Thanks :)

[hollow terrace]

Can anyone help me with why my train isn’t loading or unloading?

I’ll put a screenshot into the screenshot channel

[ornate saffron]

Is the plateform set to load or unload as needed?

[mossy fulcrum]

how do I make it go back tho

[versed cosmos]

that's why you have a locomotive on both ends

or you can make a loop

[hollow terrace]

I have two freighter platforms, one is loading and the other is set to unload. I just was able to dock the train now but only the loading platform loaded

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message @hollow terrace cause you parked manually in not the correct position

[hollow terrace]

How do I park it better?

[normal orbit]

when you in correct position when driving, you get a prompt to press F to dock

[spare prism]

I have awaken

[normal orbit]

its not really made for manual driving, you should automate the train

[versed cosmos]

auto pilot will put the train in the correct position

also a buffer stop if you drive the train into it

[hollow terrace]

Will it do both the unloading and loading if the two freighter platforms are directly beside each other?

[versed cosmos]

yeah load/unload are set per platform

[hollow terrace]

Oh okay so it’s fine to have them directly connect to each other. Just want to make sure I don’t need a spacer or something in order to get it to work

[versed cosmos]

nope no spacer required

[celest sedge]

quick question, can a 1 mk. pipe with 3 water extractors connected to it be able to supply 12 coal powered generators?

[versed cosmos]

no

[normal orbit]

just add the numbers up and figure it out yourself

[versed cosmos]

two problems here

a mk1 pipe cannot move more than 300 water/min, which is what youre trying to get it to do

and 3 water extractors cannot supply enough water for 12 coal generators

[normal orbit]

12 coal gens is 540, one mk1 pipe is 300

[last mason]

Build them in blocks of 4

[normal orbit]

3 water exctractors is 360. one mk1 pipe still 300 :p

[versed cosmos]

do 3 water extractors to 8 coal generators, just dont force the whole water input through one pipe

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[versed cosmos]

do that

[celest sedge]

hmm k tnx

[tall lantern]

lol can't even spell

[ornate saffron]

<@&387163995947270144>

[celest sedge]

i posted a pic of how my "power facility" looks like in #screenshots its a bit of a mess rn

[spiral summit]

how can you place a sign pole without the sign

[proven condor]

A reminder to Backup Your Saves 🤓

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac extra idea re: jason model; 3d printable jason in the press kit

get ye some community manager units in your 40k armies

[supple canopy]

used to? Are we supposed to stop drawing it? 👀

[versed mesa]

The video dont seam to show much 😭

I think i did see fluid delivery Depot

Thats about it

[hot knoll]

so iarethe random map nodes confirmed? will you need a new game i suppose?

[normal orbit]

not yet, wait for 17th

[leaden turret]

confirmations from <@&370483737957236737> aren't to be trusted; Mikael confirmed train updates, then confirmed no train updates, then re-confirmed train updates 😛

[spare prism]

updates on beta stuff is just not reliable in general wait until stable build then youll know

[bold heron]

are cast screws are just broken ? is there any downside to use cast screws over normal screws ?

[rancid turret]

fluid updates were also unconfirmed, just like mk6 belts were unconfirmed

[white dawn]

The main drawback is that you can't take advantage of any Iron Rod alt recipes if you use it. By some measures, the most "resource-efficient" way to make screws is via the Steel Rods recipe, though that adds coal to the production chain. Simplication at the cost of flexibility

Most players (especially very-early-game) aren't gonna care about that, so it's definitely a popular recipe

[sharp basin]

Then 1.2 is full vehicle update ❤️

[white dawn]

But the downside is there, even if it's kind of subtle. :)

[versed cosmos]

cast screws is awesome early game and i'd wholeheartedly recommend it

later you'll want to go screwless

[sharp basin]

Or fluids trains?

[versed cosmos]

we already have fluid trains

[sharp basin]

Oh sorry haven’t reach that point yet

[versed cosmos]

better to just build near your fluids though

dont transport fluids long distance if you can avoid it

[bold heron]

ok i could see like steel rods beeing more efficient later game whit things like steam ingots, coal + ingots for steel. an then rods/screws directly rather then cast screws.

[white dawn]

Avoiding screws just for the sake of avoiding screws is a bit memey; screws are easy to deal with if you make 'em inline with the machines that need 'em. Though the alt recipes which avoid screws are often more resource-efficient (by some metrics, depending on what resources you value) so that's a more reasonable reason for avoiding 'em. :P

[rancid turret]

even in the very final stages of the game, steel rods to default screws to rotors is the most efficient chain

[white dawn]

I never purposefully avoid screws, though if I happen to land on a production line which omits 'em, I'm happy enough with that

[bold heron]

screws are just annoying early sice they require relative large belt space compared to the low belts u have.

[white dawn]

The solution is to build screws inline. Don't "centralize" their production at all. A machine needs 100/min screws? Build 100/min screws directly in front of that machine and direct-belt 'em there

[bold heron]

later whit mk 4,5,6 its not that bad.

[white dawn]

The majority of screw hate out there comes from folks who try to centralize their production and then try to route them around their factory using slow belts. And yeah, that's a nightmare

But the solution is just "don't do that, then" rather than "screws are bad." :D

[rancid turret]

iron wire and stitched iron plate takes out a lot of screws pretty early on

[bold heron]

i can totally see endgame setups using, oil,coal,iron in large quantity utilizing screws in some way.

[rancid turret]

even nuclear can use screws

[zenith field]

There's a lot of alternate recipe that doesn't use screws, making a no screw playthrough possible

[bold heron]

excluding equipment there are 7 recipe that using screws.

[rancid turret]

uranium fuel unit needs rotors, and best rotors (imo) involves screws

[normal orbit]

two rotor, two heavy frames, two reinforced plates and one modular frame. and outside of the awesome shop, screws are not used for building

[bold heron]

standart rotor rods+ screws. easy to turn part of the rods into screws.

[whole robin]

Is it viable to never use screws because of how many you need for later steps in production chains

[normal orbit]

you can avoid screws completly yes

it will depends how you play honestly. Like for my playthru i'm gonna have to use something like 85% of all copper on the map for nuclear pasta to make the singularity cells i'd need. So i wouldnt wanna use copper to make copper rotors, steeled rotor is much more attractive to me in this case

[unkempt blade]

All you really need to do is not make one giant manifold for all your screws. Send the rod/ingot/whatever you use to make the screws and then make the screws right next to the manufacturer that consumes them

[peak wasp]

For rotors and motors you don't need screws or steel at all if you have alts. Using wire that you make with iron it saves lots of time. I made a blue print with 12.5 motors per minute from I think 1 600 iron belt

Why do I always mix up motors and rotors?

[unkempt blade]

I do that with compoters too

[peak wasp]

What computer recipe do you use I'm still working on that and Crystal oscillators

[normal orbit]

rotors and stators you mean :p i do also like steeled rotor for those, since they use same materials, and produce equal amounts so its super easy to setup

[unkempt blade]

They're all good, I just roll a dice to pick

[peak wasp]

Steel rotor was what I was using, iron pipes turns iron into steel pipes with no foundry, and then iron turns into wire so you don't need any secondary steps and it's more even in the factory.

[normal orbit]

iron pipe is ok, but i vastly prefer to make steel ones :p

[peak wasp]

are steel beams actually needed in anything asides frameworks

[normal orbit]

with solid steel ingot and molded steel pipes you can turn 600 iron and 600 coal into 900 pipes :)

you can replace steel beams for pipes in all but frameworks, you do need steel beams for building tho, so can't skip it completly

[peak wasp]

Steel beams you can probably automate 100 pm and be fine with

[tall schooner]

Have they said if the indestructible mini-trees are a bug or something? They make working in some biomes into a nightmare.

[peak wasp]

Aluminum is where the game starts becoming a head ache for me. When aluminum and quartz are used in builds

[unkempt blade]

that's a lot of beams if you're not planning to use them in recipes

[tall schooner]

Quartz isn't too bad. Aluminium is always a pain in the ass because of the water overflow.

[peak wasp]

Is that too many beams? Probably go for like 20 per minute then

[peak wasp]

YES the stupid water overflow kills me I hate it

[normal orbit]

depends how much you use buildable that use them

[twin forge]

When is experimental out?

[rustic glen]

HEYO

im new here:)

[tall schooner]

Mostly, the game becomes irritating when you need to start working with fluids in any more complicated way. There really needs to be better setups for fluid handling systems.

[white dawn]

#announcements message <- March 17

[clear night]

I normally don’t touch aluminum till I got the alternate recipes to make it easier to deal with.

[peak wasp]

Fr shit always gets stuck in my big builds and doesn't evenly flow. They need a tier 3 pipe for like 1200 per minute

[unkempt blade]

If you've got a lot of BPs or something that use beams in them maybe you'd get there otherwise A full depot and a lower production rate would probably cover what you'd be doing

[white dawn]

Here's the advice I've got saved which will nearly always get you to working 600/min. IMO it's good advice even below that point, though the system is usually more forgiving before then. Note of course that people have gotten working systems while ignoring large swaths of this, and occasionally due to build styles or other vagaries you might still have problems even with all this. But IME it's nearly always "the pipes Just Work":

1. Keep the system as simple and short as possible.
2. Loop your manifolds (so: the input goes into both sides of the machines you're feeding)
3. Feed fluid from above, so gravity does part of the work for you
   4a. Avoid valves entirely (they've been improved for 1.0, so this one might not be as important, but you still don't actually need valves)
   4b. Avoid fluid buffers entirely (except as buffers for train lines, where they are rather necessary)
4. Prefill your pipes! Full pipes are happy pipes. Wait until the system's thoroughly saturated before turning machines on.
5. Place junctions before pipes. If you do snap junctions onto pipes, dismantle and rebuild the pipes afterwards.

See #screenshots message for an example of 2+3 specifically. And of course, as mentioned, the fluid simulation tends to be more forgiving as the rate goes down, so keeping your pipe systems below 600/min is another option too.

[normal orbit]

steel beams used for beams, railway, frame buildables, power towers and more. So if you have blueprints using beams and such, might wanna automate a lot more than 100/min :p

[elfin smelt]

didn't know about the 6th one

[tall schooner]

Higher throughput pipes wouldn't even help most of the time. It's just fluid flow not following any reasonable logic if it's anything more complex than a straight line.

[elfin smelt]

good to know 😅

[white dawn]

It's a bit of an edge case, honestly. Mostly just there to prevent folks from ending up with really tiny pipe segments "hidden" inside the junction, which can sometimes cause problems

[elfin smelt]

I had a small headache related to this, not with pipes, but with rails

[normal orbit]

i do disagree with #2 and #4a and #5 :p

[elfin smelt]

I made a T-junction that looked connected but it wasn't

[rustic glen]

Heyo, i need a bit of help
im planing to make a BIG warehouse were all items are there and was wondering if anyone have some cool ides HOW should i build the warehouse

[acoustic bear]

I use valves on the complex setups where I'm routing water output back into the input

[unkempt blade]

This is kind of why I think less production is fine. You can definitely use a lot with the stuff you mention but at least for me most of it isn't a sustained use at that amount. I'd just be sticking a storage container between my depot and my overflow splitter then you'd have a bigger buffer when you do a big rail buildout or whatever

[white dawn]

lol, you're disagreeing with the ones that are generally considered to be most important. :) Though as I say, it's certainly possible to get working systems without those. :)

[acoustic bear]

idk if it's best practices but the valves work

[rancid turret]

that sounds like a mega mall, man guides for this but it's a logistical nightmare to route everything to one place

[white dawn]

I'm definitely quite confident in saying that the above advice is the easiest way to get to Working Pipes At Any Flow Rate™, without having to spend basically any time debugging things

[white dawn]

There are many edge cases where they do not work like people expect them to work. And they don't actually prevent practical backflow, etc.

[tall schooner]

See, having to jump through all these hoops just to get fluid to work like any reasonable person would expect it to is a pain. Why not just upsate the fluid flow system so that it actually works properly?

[white dawn]

Indeed, you can have working systems with valves in 'em, but they complicate your system for no real gain. You can always build your pipe system in a way that they're not needed

[rancid turret]

why not indeed

[normal orbit]

#2 can be mitigated with a pump before manifold. #4a valves work just fine when used properly. #5 prefilling pipes just kinda delays problems from appearing. fluid travel near instantly in pipes, the time needed to fill manifolds is cause things being used as it fills. if you have issues and prefill it might look ok, then when you check back an hour later its not running 100%

[rustic glen]

well, as one youtuber Reggy said when he played it "i have concept of happiness"

[white dawn]

I would not be personally opposed to the fluid system receiving some tweaks to make things easier on the Pioneer, for sure. (And at a minimum it'd be awesome if the game had some ways of nudging players to the methods which are more likely to work -- I agree that right now it can be real frustrating.) But since we must work with what we've got, IMO what I pasted is good advice and will get you to Working Pipes basically every time

I can't control what CSS works on, but I can control my pipe builds. And I've literally never had problems with pipe flow, even at full 600/min on mk2s, after basically adopting all that advice

With basically zero debugging required

[rancid turret]

also best not to mix fresh and recycled water

[unkempt blade]

Hashtag no changes!... Except for more vehicles to move fluids

[rancid turret]

there's no real reliable way to mix them

[normal orbit]

i would add #7: contratry to popular believes, pumps affect flow rate and help push fluids thru manifolds

[tall schooner]

Yeah, but several of those are severe detriments to your ability to make compact and good looking builds while maintaining stable throughput.

[white dawn]

Eh, if you have a working VIP Junction that can be done quite reliably. I'm still in favor of keeping them separate, though. :)

[rancid turret]

vip is evil

evil heresy

[white dawn]

(can be done without VIP Junction as well, though you can be in for a lot of debugging depending on circumstance)

I used to merge fresh+recycled all the time, and I was always able to arrive at a 100% stable system

[normal orbit]

and #8 vertical juctions are bugged and will provide some headlift, and is the reason vip junctions work

[rancid turret]

they work 99.9% of the time and then shank ya

[white dawn]

I just got tired of the debugging and tweaking eventually, so I keep 'em separate nowadays. :)

[elfin smelt]

are fluid mechanics properly explained in the game? I mean I never knew about sloshing before coming here, and it's pretty important, I may have ignored something so I'm not sure

[fickle locust]

I think it's simultaneously true that pipes work totally fine for experienced players, and that there are too many non-intuitive aspects of their behavior that turn them from being simply a challenge to learn into a major point of frustration

[tall schooner]

"Ahh, I finally got my aluminium working properly."
6 hours later
"Why did my factory just stop running?"

[modest narwhal]

if i created a word in 1.1 can i still play with 1.2 version? or i have to make a new to get my word updated to 1.2?

[white dawn]

Not really, no -- it's possible to glean all this stuff from real careful observation and testing ingame, of course (after all, the community did figure all that stuff out). But it kind of is a case where folks running into pipe problems (especially at 600/min mk2) kind of need to resort to outside-game resources like this Discord to figure out stuff like looped manifolds and such

[rancid turret]

so long as you don't try 1.2 experimental, and stay on 1.1 until 1.2 is actually done, you're fine

[normal orbit]

most people i see having issues with pipes are: 1: not following flow limits in pipes. 2: not using pumps properly. 3: making some overly complex multiple pipe/loops to try get flow when a straight line just works

[wanton cloud]

What does the ficsit checkmark do?

[white dawn]

That's actually what I was primarily hoping would happen in 1.0. I didn't think they'd actually do any tweaks to the fluid system, but I was hoping they'd figure out a way to communicate some of the fluid behaviors a bit better to the player. Alas!

[modest narwhal]

cool, thanks

[normal orbit]

just places a check mark next your name in multiplayer

[white dawn]

Heh, literally just if you're multiplayer, other players will see a checkmark (dunno if it's just when you text-chat or if it's always over your char or something)

[wanton cloud]

so i spent 8 tickets for jack?

[fiery pewter]

Quick question

[normal orbit]

yes

[rancid turret]

8 tickets is nothing

[white dawn]

Hey, tickets are free. Enjoy your checkmark! :D

[unkempt blade]

and the remainder is trying to use a really log pipe-ifold which is the only one really not explained in the codex

[fiery pewter]

3600 is the max amount of uranium without converting right?

[white dawn]

I always redeem the checkmark even though I'm always singleplayer. Gotta buy out the shop, after all!

[normal orbit]

long manifolds work if you space pumps evenly thru it

[white dawn]

I'm still hoping someday they'll follow through on their joking-slash-not-joking idea of having the checkmark be a monthly cost if you want to keep it. :D

[wanton cloud]

but i aint ever seein it again 😭

[white dawn]

(The only real roadblock being that the existing framework in the game just doesn't support that kind of thing)

[normal orbit]

2100/min

2 normal nodes and 3 impure

[fiery pewter]

Weird

I remember it being 3600

Oh well, gotta do it with what you get

[white dawn]

I mean for the majority of players can produce more power than they'll ever need by just tapping a single Uranium node. :D

[lavish inlet]

Is it actually impossible to get the iron pipes alt?? Ive scanned 20 harddrives and rerolled basically all of them!! Ive gotten felxible framwork 4 times smh

[white dawn]

Max Nuclear (with conversions and such) is, I believe 10TW+

[normal orbit]

dont pick a recipe when you scan, and the two will be removed from the pool

[white dawn]

It is. The trick is to keep up with your hard drive acquisitions so that the random pool remains small (ideally empty!)

[lavish inlet]

Im got, ive got 30+ 😭

[white dawn]

Though yeah, if you're hunting for a specific recipe, definitely keep the ones you don't immediately want unredeemed

[fiery pewter]

But that'd gobble up every resource on the map no?

[white dawn]

Since that'll remove those two recipes from the random pool on the next scan

[normal orbit]

if flexible framework showed 4 times, you have picked the other option or rescanned it so it went away

[white dawn]

Such is the nature of your typical "Max <X>" project, sure

[lavish inlet]

I rescanned because i need iron pipes and im tired of hunting for drives

I do not want to have to transport coal to make steel

[normal orbit]

just about all coal nodes except those in middle of the map (red forest + titan forest) have iron closeby, why transport :p

[proven snow]

Grab another 70 and you should be fine

[wintry carbon]

march 17

1.2 ?

[proven snow]

On experimental branch yes

[white dawn]

Yeah, don't expect a polished end-product 1.2 on March 17

[lavish inlet]

Im in grassfields, and the ones in the lagoon is already used for steel

[wintry carbon]

so 2-4 weeks later 1.2 full release

[white dawn]

Experimental is generally stable enough to play + enjoy even in the very early releases, but you're going to be beta-testing for them and finding bugs, etc

[lavish inlet]

I guess im going on an adventure again 😵‍💫

[white dawn]

Historically it's been at least 1-2 months; sometimes as long as 6

[normal orbit]

theres two pure coal nodes to the south in grassy fields next to a lot of iron

[white dawn]

Though 6 months was an outlier for an update which had a huge UE update in the background plus summer hols getting in the way

[wintry carbon]

damn long time

[white dawn]

As I say, if you're willing to beta-test the next version and don't mind possibly running into (potentially big) bugs, then you can always hop into Experimental once it releases on there

Just remember that you're not getting a polished version yet, and any saves you make on Experimental cannot be loaded back in Public (until v1.2 is actually released in Public)

[wintry carbon]

i might ... well c

[leaden turret]

🎶 back up your damn save files 🎶

[random patrol]

I wish we could monitor power use through a switch...

[peak wasp]

Don't they have individual power adapter things for that? Connect between mini factories or whatever

[leaden turret]

I just noticed the rainfall on the 1.2 logo 😅

[white dawn]

Nah, there's currently no good way to find out what the power needs are on one "side" of a switch without flipping the switch to off (and thus shutting off anything on the unpowered side)

You'd be left with the "max consumption" line on the unpowered side but that's it. When flipped on, the graphs on both sides will be basically identical (or at least collecting the exact same data as it scrolls)

[normal orbit]

yea, wish they would show the power grid on the other side and the total grid

[white dawn]

You can load your save into SCIM to see a breakdown of power needs for each grid on your network

[normal orbit]

it kinda does it the moment you flip it on, but then its just two graphs showing same

[white dawn]

Though figuring out which grid is which can be a challenge, especially if you end up having a lot

[finite mirage]

Pioneer face reveal when?

[leaden turret]

July 14th, 2020
Trolling: Face Reveal
https://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableStrangePenguinRitzMitz

[finite mirage]

Pioneer face reveal face reveal when?

Also does that mean pioneer's head is TINY?

Thats at least 2cm of helmet thickness

Considering its even smaller

[peak wasp]

Sad. I'm still stuck figuring out how to automate radio control units and how many I need

I've fully automated fused frames, rcus, turbo motors, and aluminum in the far east biome but the bare minimum

[timber plover]

Personally, automating just enough for your own depot barely has any use...since if you want to make more advanced items, you'll have to practically build the entire factory again.

I prefer to just make a shit load (of items that are actually used in other recipes, can easily check this) and then transport the items over to another factory where I need them by train

[tall lantern]

takes the same amount of machines either way, but if you build what you need when you need it, you don't have to try and predict your future, and can take advantage of any new tech/recipes you gain access to

[timber plover]

That's how you get overwhelmed, because now if you want to make a more advanced item, you're having to rebuild so many things...

Same with base components, easier to just make a load and then distribute.

For example I have one factory that makes 2000 plastic and 2000 rubber per minute. Just so I won't need to think about it again

[timber plover]

Sure, but it also makes every factory much bigger, because you're having to remake items constantly that you already have a factory for (which then serves no purpose other than your personal inventory...which you really do not have any use for)

with for example radio control units...nobody needs that many for just personal inventory

[tall lantern]

in that case why automate anything

[timber plover]

That quite literally makes no sense?

[tall lantern]

bit hyperbolic, but if you don't want to bother automating things because you need a limited, finite amount, then that'd apply all the way up

[timber plover]

So me saying that I prefer to make a factory that produces 50 per minute rather than remaking the same thing 10 times each making 5 per minute...implies that I should just not automate anything?

[tall lantern]

as for this, you're making your 5 bazingiliion iron plates however you set it up, it changes where things are built. And unless you perfectly predicted your needs for the rest of the game, either you overbuild, or you're gonna have to build more anyway. so why not just do that when you actually know how much you need

[tall lantern]

no, this is the part that implies not automating 😛

[timber plover]

Yes and that's my point..No need to make a factory making a small amount for personal inventory that you won't use in any other factory anyways

[tall lantern]

and I disagree

because you will need them anyway

[timber plover]

I mentioned I have a factory that makes 2000 plastic and 2000 rubber...you don't think I have that going into the dimensional depot either lol?

[tall lantern]

lots of buildables use them

[keen vault]

modular or big mega factory at tier 5/6?

[tall lantern]

no, with a number like that I'd hope there was an actual plan for it rather than a yolo job

[timber plover]

Yep and as I said, you can just put them into dimensional depot at the big factory as well, no need to make a smaller factory JUST for personal use

[tall lantern]

so you have a big factory making them but a small one's more work 😅

ah, are you a siphoner

using outputs of previous factories for later ones and hoping you have enough to keep up

[timber plover]

Well you'd know that both plastic and rubber are used in loads of recipes... So having bulk with almost always guarantee I have enough for a factory I want to create...rather than having to bring crude oil over to that factory and making plastic once again for the 50th time...

So you'd rather bring crude oil to 20 different factories than just having one place that makes all of it and distributes it across your world?

[reef basin]

Always modular

[wanton cloud]

How many coal generators is too many coal generators?

[keen vault]

what if i have 3 ores in a single spot? i have a spot with limestone, 3 iron and some copper

[keen vault]

no limit, make 50gw if u need it

[ornate saffron]

When its no longer enjoyable its time to stop

[wanton cloud]

nice, i'm making a 3GW plant

[timber plover]

No need to "hope", can keep track of numbers and if you don't have enough it's easy to just make extra.

Atleast I don't have to bring crude oil and the same production chain and also a packager to get rid of excess heavy oil residue to every single factory.

But that's your choice then

[reef basin]

I mean, build near resources that you need

[keen vault]

my current is on like 1.3GW

[keen vault]

so basically everything i have scannable

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[wanton cloud]

i already have one that's making like 3-4 GW, i'm just adding another 3GW ontop of it

[jagged nymph]

and there we go ACUs automated

next up modular engines

[tall lantern]

I'd normally build near the fluids in these cases, or make a lil subfactory that does that makes exactly what the overall factory needs and sends it to that one place. If other stuff needs oil, they can use what's left over there, or more practical oil if closer.
also no need to get rid of residue since there are recipes for that (but if you built all your plubber before getting those, then obviously you're already committed)

[jagged nymph]

i definitely did not make a like 3km belt over to my computer factory

and my hmf factory

[timber plover]

In that case, if you're already making sub factories..why not just make one main hub? much easier for logistics and keep track of things.

I just send those products I make to a hub near the center of the map, where things can get distributed across the map quick due to a big train network

[wanton cloud]

I just realized i got myself into a shitshow

[tall lantern]

I haven't tried a siphoning-based setup in SF, I am considering that for my next run just to have the experience. I have been playing some GregTech MC though which does lend itself more to that sorta setup, and am having a nightmare keeping track of what's used vs what's available 😅

[timber plover]

I get that, I just keep track of everything by writing it down

And I have a lot of things inside of Satisfactory Modeler, saved all the factory layouts and have one for the main hub where I write it all out as well

[tall lantern]

if nothing else, having a need for that sorta distribution gives me a reason to use trains lol

lots and lots of trains

[timber plover]

I have every single factory layout saved from the very start of the save

[tall lantern]

since building separate factories usually means you don't need much large-scale logistics

[timber plover]

exactly! it's fun, rather than just making everything on site and never really having the need for trains or anything

besides..at that point you might as well use drones

[ornate saffron]

I don't use the "main" hub idea at all. I move it to where I'm building. Each factory is purpose built. If I have to transport items its to the space elevator or in its most dense form.

[tall lantern]

think in my 1.0/1.1 save I only used trains/drones for nuclear and my main P5 factory. I do kinda miss having a central storage with trains whizzing around all over, but they are a lotta work

[white dawn]

I was considering doing without Central Storage on my next playthrough (presumably v1.2)

I enjoy building 'em; it's a fun logistical challenge. But definitely a labor of love nowadays

[wanton cloud]

Anyone know how can i get water easily 72m above water level? picture in #screenshots message

is it just 2 mk2 pumps?

[white dawn]

Yep

They don't "stack" -- you'd place the first one near the bottom and then the other one 48-50m higher than that

[wanton cloud]

got it

[white dawn]

(or put another way, a pump resets headlift, rather than adding to it)

[wanton cloud]

so i can have 10 pumps across the 72m height and have the same effect

[normal orbit]

i'd use 3, one before lifting, one in the middle and a third once you're at top

[glad drum]

#screenshots message use a water tower like this

[wanton cloud]

does it eliminate the need for pumps

[white dawn]

No reason to use a water tower like that; you're already using pumps to get the water up there; the water tower doesn't add anything to that

[glad drum]

No, but if you need multiple pipes then it cuts down on the amount of pumps

[wanton cloud]

yea i'd js rather go straight to the second floor

[white dawn]

(There's a separate "water tower" that some folks build which is not that, which relies on exploiting various features of the fluid system to do without the need for pumps entirely, but definitely don't use those IMO.)

Pumps are essentially free; if your power is so tight that you don't think you can afford a few more pumps, IMO build out some more power first. :)

[gloomy tusk]

i thought mk 6 belts needed like nuclear pasta for some reason

[spiral summit]

i have supercomputers unlocked but its not in the awesome shop wtf

[white dawn]

I think the points at which things unlock in the shop is sometimes a bit screwy

Maybe it's a subtle encouragement to get to automatin' rather than buying from the shop. :D

[spiral summit]

grr

[elfin basin]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1477032013478494473

[spiral summit]

if i automate them my 4gw coal plant wont keep up, and i need them for my nuclear power 💔

[glad drum]

Personally it's never power that I'm worried about, I just don't wanna place 8x more pumps

[white dawn]

Uh, don't do that please. You already posted in the correct place. Crossposting here is just gonna get people salty at you

There's a reason that's off in its own channel

[elfin basin]

Oh, mb didn't know i couldn't do it here. tyy for informing me 😄

[stone scarab]

Guys this factory is quite satis… it’s satisfactory

[peak wasp]

When ur turbo motors stop stacking at 197 and ur 3 away from an even 200 in the dimensional depot so u gotta figure out what's wrong ugh

[whole robin]

Since I'm already making above 200 concrete a minute (I think) at my megafactory, should I just use the rest of the limestone to make silica for future recipes

[white dawn]

Something Not A Turbomotor™ made it onto the belt somehow, perhaps?

[spiral summit]

i feel like they shouldve added a few more machine animations cause why does my gas mask filter look like its being assembled out of a supercomputer

[white dawn]

Anything non-Turbomotor-or-belt-material show up when you highlight your dismantle tool on the belt feeding the Depot?

[sterile blade]

I've always been a big fan of suggestions asking for more machine animations, but they're... Very expensive 😭
Also, the choice is probably between "leave it as is" and "make animations for EACH item" as it would make little sense to have different animations just for some items

[normal orbit]

i like the lil animations when the machine fights itself. blenders and quantum encoders have a lil special animation playing now and then where the arms fight each other

[sterile blade]

Or when Packagers seem to mess up the pressure for a cycle

They're really nice details

[peak wasp]

Probably stupid aluminum water excess built up

[spiral summit]

always have a wet concrete refinery to deal with overflow

[jagged nymph]

theres nothing stopping you from using a flud freight platform as a fluid buffer

[unkempt blade]

That one's on you. Gas mask is the equipment shop so it's you and you alone doing it

[wanton cloud]

anyone know how could i connect the pipes here? all 3 extractors are overclocked to 250%, meaning they all get 300 m3 water.#screenshots message

I'll visualize it and tag you to make sure i understand what ur talking about

[white dawn]

When you've got questions which need images (which is nearly always the case for piping questions), #1038092680493801533 is nearly always best, btw, so you can just inline images. (There's also #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture, depending on if those are appropriate for the question)

[wanton cloud]

btw do i use mk2 or mk1 pipes since the extractors are gonna be outputting 300m3 water each

[unkempt blade]

depends how you use the pipes 🙂

[wanton cloud]

i use them

[white dawn]

Personally I'd do three totally-separate piping networks, one for each extractor

And keep 'em at mk1s. Have each feed the exact number of machines it supports

[wanton cloud]

that is what i'm doing, but somewhere i heard that doing the limit of a pipe is bad, so that's why im asking

[wanton cloud]

okay thanks

[white dawn]

Being right at the pipe limit does make potential problems more likely, yeah, but you can always get it working, and having problems with 300/min on mk1 pipes is far less frequent than 600/min on mk2s

[jagged nymph]

wtf i just threw exactly 150 nobelisks on my friends disconnected body and on the 150th one it killed him

nobelisks do damage when they hit someone?

[white dawn]

Looped manifolds (a la #screenshots message ) would help avoid the majority of problems

[jagged nymph]

and i hit him with a few more and he dissapeared???

[gloomy tusk]

yes

minor damage

[jagged nymph]

but then after i revived his disconnected body and hit him with a few more the body dissapeared

[gloomy tusk]

do you guys have keep inventory on?

[jagged nymph]

yes but he still dropped his inventory anyway

into a death crate

[gloomy tusk]

when you kill a disconnected player with keep inven on it kills them then trys to respawn them at the hub but forgots about his items so now until he joins back i believe hes like not on the map

[jagged nymph]

no the first time he came back when i revived him but when i killed the revived body it just dissapeared entirely

[gloomy tusk]

welp i don't know

[jagged nymph]

very strange

[gloomy tusk]

@modest narwhal

If you want to fix those gaps you can use painted beams from the awesome shop

[river marsh]

i just unlocked oil but the first oil source i scanned is 2.5kms away.. what should i do?

[gloomy tusk]

@jaunty blade it is satisfactory modeler i believe

[modest narwhal]

i tried but its looking teribble and not even match to the beams for below the windows

[jaunty blade]

thanks :)!!!

[gloomy tusk]

build big power towers to connect them and set up a fuel factory there?

[ornate saffron]

go to it. Build a power line as you go

[gloomy tusk]

did you paint it

[modest narwhal]

yeah, wait a minute

[gloomy tusk]

or use a custom finish

[river marsh]

oh okay i thought i had to transport it all the way back to base for whatever reason

[glad drum]

Power poles/towers all the way there, smack down an oil diggeroo then either

A) build your refineries on site to create rubber, plastic and fuel or
B) use pipes (or train) to transport the fuel back to your base

[river marsh]

got it

[gloomy tusk]

what could possibly be the benefit of putting fuel close to your main factory

you just lose space

[jagged nymph]

id reccomend processing the oil into other materials where the oil is instead of trying to pipe it all the way back home

[mystic oriole]

verticality, there's a lot of space.

[unkempt blade]

Definitely don't use pipes. Trains are way more delightful

[glad drum]

fun 🙂 --- in my current world, I am bringing everything back to my mega base before processing it at all

[gloomy tusk]

yeah but do you really want to be moving fuel to your main factory to then build a fuel plant there or just build it where the fuel is

[glad drum]

yes

[gloomy tusk]

@modest narwhal have you tried nudging it so they arent colliding?

hold ctrl and nudge with arrow keys

[mystic oriole]

play the game however you want

[modest narwhal]

yeah i tried but its moved too far

[gloomy tusk]

either way you know more about the game then me

[gloomy tusk]

you must not be nudging it right nudge is quite small

[mystic oriole]

there's always someone who know's more

[gloomy tusk]

doc

[ornate saffron]

generally its easier to move the power then the oil. so build up your oil products and power in the oil field then once connect to your main grid yourgolden

[glad drum]

I would probably recommend to a new player to process the oil on site THEN transport the rubber/plastic to wherever they need

[gloomy tusk]

thats what i do

[unkempt blade]

This game needs power storage freight cars so you can move power with trains too

[gloomy tusk]

i use factory carts for transport currently

[glad drum]

or, be different, process it on the way back as you force the oil to travel through the giant mushrooms

[weak bloom]

the train carries power though....?

[mystic oriole]

And I skip coal and oil for power.

[gloomy tusk]

😭

[unkempt blade]

yeah but they could carry more power

[gloomy tusk]

wdym they carry the entire grid?

[weak bloom]

power throughput is infinite

[unkempt blade]

grid + x freight cars of power storage = more than just the grid

[weak bloom]

like why would you want them to carry batteries, you can send infinite power down a single power line, just build batteries next to the station, it doesn't need to carry anything

[balmy schooner]

Were can I find Tutorials for factories to build Blueprints from?

[unkempt blade]

because moving oil is inefficient

[gloomy tusk]

on the big tube

[ornate saffron]

youtube,

I like TotalXclipse and Spectrum dad

[balmy schooner]

Just search on their Channels?

[gloomy tusk]

drawing xaos builds are INSANE

[unkempt blade]

So based on community feedback it sounds like what we actually need is power storage tractors instead?

[gloomy tusk]

power storage factory carts

[unkempt blade]

genius!

[gloomy tusk]

is it bad i use factory carts for transport?

[glad drum]

Yeah but if you transport it in pipes and paint the pipes black, it looks like giant electrical cables

[unkempt blade]

I like them. They're the oompa loompas of vehicles and they bring joy to the factory

[gloomy tusk]

i use them for transporting low throughput items because they dont need fuel

[unkempt blade]

they're even good at higher throughput if you add more to the route 😄

[gloomy tusk]

i tried that but one hit a wall and then they all kinda crashed

[unkempt blade]

That does seem like it would make it appear more efficient at least. We all know moving power is easier than liquids so this should trick it into being more efficient

[spiral summit]

16gw for a nuclear power station feels low...

should i double my uranium fuel rod input or just burn the plutonium rods instead

[unkempt blade]

why not both?

[spiral summit]

hmmm

well its cause ill do the latter eventually

but doubling it just means i can delay it further

welp youre right

[weak bloom]

wait I think you just gave me the ACTUAL best idea for power transportation
PLASMA

[spiral summit]

thisll be fun

[vague apex]

is there any way of getting the alternate recipe you want or do i just have to keep gambling hard drives

[cinder oasis]

when croosplay in satisfactory!

[unkempt blade]

Thanks, I'm almost always right. Especially about power storage freight cars being a great idea

[whole robin]

Is it better to just leave my turbofuel power plant where it is and start making a Nitro Rocket Fuel plant in the blue cater from the ground up or should I upgrade the tuebofuel plant into a rocket fuel plant?

[spiral summit]

wh... whuh?

battery powered trains do sound lovely though

[whole robin]

Leave hard drives in the library without choosing one to remove both of them from future hard drives and increase your chances of better recipes

[unkempt blade]

if you've already got extra coal/sulfur at the turbo fuel plant there's really nothing special you'd get out of doing it at the crater

[vague apex]

yeh ive been doing that as well

[unkempt blade]

the reason people like the crater is they can be lazier about moving resources to that spot

[weak bloom]

can you get nitrogen gas to the existing plant though? if you can't do that easily then probably not worth it

[unkempt blade]

Gases are just comically easy to move using pipes. I wouldn't be too worried about nitro

[whole robin]

Nitro Rocket Fuel is a single manufacterer recipe to turn nitrogen gas, fuel, coal, and sulfur into rocket fuel, as opposed to the very long process of turbofuel and nitric acid into rocket fuel

[spiral summit]

so if i dont use ficsonium and let the plutonium waste build up ill be making 58gw

lovely

[unkempt blade]

nitric acid adds a single step and would use your existing turbofuel output

[spiral summit]

i wonder how many containers im going to fill up with plutonium waste by the time i get to ficsonium...

[whole robin]

There's nitrogen not very far from my plant, but I still would like to not do the refinement from 1 blender to another blender to do the same thing but far more complicated and energy expensive

[whole robin]

But when I want to expand, it's going to be a slog to double all my existing machinery for another pure crude oil node for less net power

[unkempt blade]

🤷‍♂️ sounds like you already knew what you wanted to do

[spiral summit]

i feel like when making ficsonium ill be consuming more power than producing at that point

just to make it

[glad drum]

I want a little robot that you can assign to take an item out of a container and slowly walk it over to your HUB and flush it down the toilet

[whole robin]

Fair point

[white dawn]

It's quite power-inefficient, yeah. You spend about two-thirds of the power it generates just to make the stuff

It's really just for players with two hard requirements: 1) Burn Plutonium, 2) Still have "clean" nuclear. If you've got any wiggle room at all on either of those requirements, then it doesn't make a lot of sense to produce

(I mean there's also "3) I want to do it just 'cause it's fun", which is valid. :)

[sleek gazelle]

Hello!
I need to create mask filters, but I don't know where to do it. I can't find any information on how or where to do it. Help!

[white dawn]

Your codex can help! Hit o to open the codex directly, or n for a search bar (which is also a calculator, fwiw)

[sleek gazelle]

I've tried searching, but it doesn't appear. 🙁

[white dawn]

Search for "filter" and click on the results; it'll show you all ways to make it (including what building it's in, etc).

Hm, does it maybe only search at the beginning of the word? try "gas filter" instead, maybe

[untold moat]

Do you have the mask and filter recipes unlocked?

[white dawn]

Do you have filters unlocked, btw? I think that's via the MAM?

[untold moat]

Yeah, via MAM, Mycellia tree

[white dawn]

There's always the wiki as well, which will give you recipes for things you don't have unlocked yet

!wikisearch gas mask

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=gas+mask

[spiral summit]

its a real shame they dont let us put ficsit on the map again

[white dawn]

lol

[spiral summit]

then that would be the real reason to go ficsonium

[whole robin]

Though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to upgrade my existing tuebofuel plant to rocket fuel once I have the other set up

[sleek gazelle]

Thanks!! ❤️ ❤️

[jagged nymph]

thanks for the idea. Next time i need to transport something long distance im making a 50 foundation wide road in the sky filled to the brim with factory carts

[wanton cloud]

@jaunty blade @spark plover the website is called satisfactory layout planner

it's a very handy dandy tool that i use to visualize what im gonna do

[jaunty blade]

thank you so much 🙂

[wanton cloud]

np

[lavish inlet]

Is a 32 reactor powerplant kind of an unresonable goal for a first time playthrough? I have planned it out and it takes bonkers amounts of materials.

[normal orbit]

no, go for it, have fun :)

[spiral summit]

nah u good

[lavish inlet]

Okay! Where should i build it? Ocean is a clear winner, but what part? The top part above the dessert seems pretty resonable due to the big distance to the worldborder

[normal orbit]

north of rocky desert is quite popular site for it

[lavish inlet]

Yeah thats where i meant, i havent learned the biome names yet 🫠

But getting trains there is more tricky though? or am i overthinking it?

[normal orbit]

you can put trains over the sippy, or place them in the desert near where the iron nodes are

you have coal, iron, copper, caterium, nitrogen and a sulfur node in that area, as well as a uranium node up the tallest mountain

so you can make a fair bit on site

also the quartz cave below

[spiral summit]

rocky desert is the not red sand desert

[normal orbit]

theres two deserts. rocky desert in the north west and dune desert in the north east

[lavish inlet]

My plan was to have a megafactory and produce everything on site with trains getting all the raw materials. I know its innefficent, but i like a logistical challenge

[normal orbit]

its not really, if you only plan to use like a single impure uranium node, you dont need to train in awhole lot

[lavish inlet]

i need 640 uranium/min according to my model in modeler

[normal orbit]

for only 32 reactors? curious which recipes you chose

[lavish inlet]

I dont know any of the alts and which are good, i just did the standard ones, but please tell me if there are any thats worth implementing

[normal orbit]

well it depends, cause the alts can give more fuel rods, but will be a bit more costly in materials

imo the only one to stay away from is the fertile uranium alt for processing waste

[summer egret]

di 1.2 release?

or am i tripping

[normal orbit]

you're tripping, its not 17th march yet

[summer egret]

im tripping hard wtf

i tought it said 27th march

but its februari...

i think i should sleep...

[ornate saffron]

Sleep coffee. Go

[weak bloom]

I give up on not using mods, I need the one that makes it always daytime, i can't take it anymore LMAO

[ornate saffron]

i use that one too. But its cause i had eye surgery lol

[spark plover]

cool. thanks you so much

[small quail]

can anyone help me with my trains? its my first time doing them and i dont know why they dont work

[coral glacier]

First you'll need tracks.

[small quail]

yeah i got all that

but it doesnt load

like it stops at the station and doesnt load the mats

[coral glacier]

Are there stations at both end points?

[small quail]

yeah

[coral glacier]

Did you assign which station is loading and the other as unloading?

[small quail]

i think ive done that correctly

[coral glacier]

Might wanna double check

[small quail]

gimme a min

ima go check and tell ya

[coral glacier]

Also make sure that the rails are actually connected to the stations :D 👍

[small quail]

okay i made a vid showing you how i have it all mounted

can i send it to ur dms?

[coral glacier]

Sure!

[broken sinew]

greetings all

[last bluff]

I just realized, why doesn't the world come with an IKEA? like a crash site but instead it's an IKEA

[normal orbit]

skirting the lawsuit with ficsonium, lets not provoke them further :D

[last bluff]

after you said this, if I were better at this game, I'd join multiplayer servers to rush building IKEAs
(so that FICSIT needs to orbital laser us, for PR and copyright reasons)

[coral marsh]

Yo should I make 80, 160 or 320 singularity cells per minute (yall know I use mods, one of them is bolted singularity cells, yes that means it uses screws, 500 per minute per manufacturer). I want yall to choose for me, 80, 160 or 320

[unborn nova]

whats ur goal with them

it kinda depends how much u need

[coral marsh]

Ficsonium and at least 5 fully powered alien power matrices

[unborn nova]

oh yea i forgot those were a thing

[coral marsh]

Im not going off of how many I need

[unborn nova]

gotcha

might aswell go 320 then right

couldnt hurt

[coral marsh]

May as well

I cant remember the exact number per minute but the end result will either be 320 or 240 per minute

[untold zealot]

Very new to Satisfactory with only a few hour in it, but uh.. I feel like I'm maybe stuck in "Oh wait I can redo that thing I did 10 minutes ago to be better"-mode as I'm unlocking the smallest new things (such as better conveyer belts, and now I just unlocked the "Assembler"). Two questions!

1. Should I bother at all with building "floors"? I seem to have very little unlocked for it even though the tutorial mentioned I should give it a go
2. There doesn't happen to be a way to get a bird eye building view is there? The lookout tower sooort of helped buuut....

[unborn nova]

later in the game u get jetpacks and hover packs

and me personally i love having a flat large surface to build on

so tbh if you have the mats you might want to try it

i think i started using foundations around phase 2 or 3

[weak bloom]

did I need to do this? no
would it have been WAY easier if I just moved the belts a few feet further and used the more wide-open space for it? absolutely
BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVING UP
#screenshots message

[astral escarp]

Not a building view but maybe detached photo mode would help?

[untold zealot]

Ooooh follow up on that - Is there an unlock for the game to use building wares from the personal chest in the base?

[astral escarp]

At least no birds eye building view until you get the hover pack

[untold zealot]

Or do I have to make sure I carry a unfortunate amount of concrete in my worringly large backpack

[weak bloom]

unlock dimensional depot asap

[astral escarp]

Dimensional depot is a lifesaver

[unborn nova]

ye for now you gotta carry everything

[astral escarp]

Just consistently feed the depot from storage

[unborn nova]

but dimensional depot is like so amazing

[untold zealot]

Will do!... as long as I figure out where!

[weak bloom]

alien technology tree in the MAM

[junior creek]

That “Oh wait I can redo that thing I did 10 minutes ago to be better” is actually the games charm

[untold zealot]

Yes but then you realize you need to move the smelter to make room for the conveyer splitter and that in turn moves the storage a bit further out and now it works but looks kinda bad and oh wait the power is out again aaaa

[astral escarp]

But yeah my setup for a storage room in my last playthrough was a few of the big containers stacked on top of each other each feeding into the next one with lifts and then a dimensional depot on top of the stack so it always stays full

[astral escarp]

I always allow myself a little bit of clipping as a treat

[junior creek]

coal power is right around the corner for you so power won’t be an issue for long

but yeah the point is to always remake the things you make as you unlock more stuff

[untold zealot]

But I just finished my loop of Wood -> Biomass ->Solid biomass -> furnace !

I even just crafted a chainsaw!

[junior creek]

and don’t worry it doesn’t have to be pretty at the start since 90% of things you make in the first 4 stages are getting completely remade later on

[untold zealot]

Fair enough! I think I'll simply have to move to an area with more flat space maybe. I picked the rocky start, it's roomy but not thaaaat roomy where the two iron things are (if the map is static)

[astral escarp]

Also on a different topic, I know that coffee stain put out official stl files for the pioneer's helmet, build gun, and xeno zapper, but is there any plans to release/have they already released print files for the 1.0 backpack?

[junior creek]

That’ll be useful don’t worry you’ll need to clear out lots of terrain very soon

[peak wasp]

Finally got power shards automating again feels good

Overclock everything

[last bluff]

We don't know anything of the new gamemode yet, right? I am very biased but I hope for more expensive recipes so that in vanilla, biofuel stays relevant much longer

[junior creek]

I think we’re on the same starting point Lol that place is peak

But coal is kind of far from there so I recommend using tractors for transport then switch to trucks asap when you unlock them

[untold zealot]

Mmhm. Yepp yepp. I totally knew those were a thing!

[wanton cloud]

don't switch to trucks they are just clumsier tractors

also clunkier

[last bluff]

DO switch to trucks because they look cool

[junior creek]

You unlock them in stage 3 (tractors)

[untold zealot]

Listen I'm still here trying to kill Rhinos (???) with a melee zapper, I'm not very far in the tech tree yet :D

[junior creek]

Lowkey

[wanton cloud]

fluffy-tailed hog

[junior creek]

I still kill them with that lol

[last bluff]

Actually personally I only use trains because those look the coolest but you know, between the two

[junior creek]

better storage imo but it’s just preference

[wanton cloud]

i have yet to implement a train network, but im gonna make sure to use em lol

[junior creek]

I’ll switch to trains when I unlock them definitely but for some shorter routes I might even keep the wheelers

[astral escarp]

Don't use trucks or trains, just use really long belts like I do

[wanton cloud]

i mean unless the factory is very demanding on material, like a HMF factory i usually just use tractors

[unkempt blade]

c'mon, live a little 😄

[astral escarp]

I ran a belt from the dunes to the oil in the coral sea, I had such a hard time getting trucks to not get stuck I just gave up

[untold zealot]

Oooh, actually, feel free to spoiler me on this - the tutorial mentioned I was one of four survivors dropping into the map. Are there NPCs I can find and interact with, or was that just fluff?

[junior creek]

Depends what type of person you are really some people care about the product some care about the looks

[wanton cloud]

have you ever thought of having road blueprints instead of natural roads?

[astral escarp]

No because it took me less time to run the belts than build big roads

[summer egret]

i have like 700hours on sf but ts is honeslty getting so boring, always the same objective. sure there are many ways to do things but at the end its all the same. dont yall get bored?

[junior creek]

You’re the only one there dude 😪✌️

[unkempt blade]

it depends, do you have gamer friends?

[wanton cloud]

big fluff, there are other sentient... entities that ur gonna meet but no humans anywhere

[junior creek]

You’ll find crash sites of other pioneers tho

[astral escarp]

Probably just fluff, iirc you can find crash sites but no other living npcs on the map

[untold zealot]

Fair enough! I'll continue talking with the microwave

[last bluff]

You know how you can trimp on a ramp with the parachute right? I hit a wall and died instantly AAA

[junior creek]

Wait until you meet coffee mug

[unkempt blade]

Weird, my world has other pioneers. I do play with friends though

[wanton cloud]

oh yeah @untold zealot you will find some crash sites. those MIGHT be some of the most important things to get, you will learn what and where they are

[last bluff]

Hopefully you can solve this issue by eating them the next update (during golf)

[astral escarp]

I only have one friend that plays factory games with me, and we don't play together super often

[untold zealot]

I've spotted one, but no idea how to get to it. High on a mountain near my starting base, but turns out there are angry green poison things in the way from what I can tell.

[unkempt blade]

MP saves are more fun. I would never eat them because they keep me entertained

[junior creek]

Those gassy towers you’re probably talking about will bother you for a while

[wanton cloud]

if it's an orange cube with black smoke you're on the right track. there are some that are easier to reach so don't worry about that one for now

[last bluff]

ok Mr. "Oh look at me! I have friends!" showoff

[astral escarp]

Although when we do play together our factory building philosphies are wildly different, she builds exactly what she needs at that time, I hoover up every material in that quadrant and build as many items per minute as I possibly can

[unkempt blade]

Next time there's a sale just buy a stack of licenses and give them out to people. Make friends instead of being jealous

[last bluff]

NO U

[unkempt blade]

maybe I will!

[astral escarp]

Look at mr social over here making friends

[junior creek]

My friends touch grass im the only one playing factory games for 12 hours a day🥱

[last bluff]

meanwhile Satisfactory will prime us to be scared of cats

[unkempt blade]

I have cats. I was already scared of them. They attack my socks while I'm wearing them 🙁

[last bluff]

understandable and relatable

[unkempt blade]

They're amazing and I love them but they're at least twice as aggressive as ingame cats

[astral escarp]

Real honestly

[junior creek]

Speaking of in game cats it’d actually be pretty cool if they add more tameable animals to the game

[astral escarp]

Space engineers and minecraft tech mods indoctrinated me into the factory game player sphere

[last bluff]

My gf's cat tries to claw under the door if you ever go to the bathroom

[junior creek]

Realllllll I used to watch lots of create mod then found out there are actually games for those things

[astral escarp]

Create mod is after my time

[junior creek]

Never played create mod tho that’s WAY too complicated

[last bluff]

Yogscast letsgoo!

[astral escarp]

My childhood was buildcraft, thermal expansion, and i2c

[junior creek]

Those are peak too

[astral escarp]

Moonquest moment

[last bluff]

Cheese blocks

Hopefully Ad Astra will ever be that good as that space mod became, it's not the best port

[astral escarp]

Also does anyone know how high or low poly the engineer model is in game? I need to find a way to get the backpack in a printable state lol

[last bluff]

Why did I get a "server will restart in 30 seconds" on my singleplayer world?

[unborn nova]

you broke ficsit rule

ur save is getting deleted

[last bluff]

It's genuinely the first time I saw this

[summer egret]

ada is mad at you

breaking ficsit rule is a huge offense..

[last bluff]

I just told her she isn't my type!

[unborn nova]

i suppose chap

[plain hatch]

It might be that you have multiplayer turned on?

[weak bloom]

is there a way to make walls have the coated concrete material? I don't think I saw it in the shop and it would be nice to be able to make the walls match the foundations...

[plain hatch]

“Allow others to join” clicked?

If that’s on it pretty much turns into a local server with daily restarts

[last bluff]

Nope! "Single Player" in world settings. That setting is invisible to me.

If it isn't normal behaviour however, I do use modded so no use looking into it further then

I did find it funny mostly

[coral glacier]

Use loop-dee loops

[plain hatch]

I guess it happens in single player too then

It’s also just to clear out memory leaks and make everything smooth

Keeps it stable

[unkempt blade]

yeah and some whirlydurdles!

[peak wasp]

Has anyone ever used up every node

[ornate saffron]

lol i didnt know there was a memory leak. Glad i have so much ram

[unkempt blade]

I just send any I don't use for factories straight to a sink which is technically used

[last bluff]

I don't think you want to boast about having 5000$ in easy to carry metals in your home

[ornate saffron]

its okay, easy to break into a best buy. I have a cat l

its also only ddr4 my humble rig is 5 years old now apperently

[last bluff]

not sure why you added so many words around "I have a cat" as that's more than plenty

also have you seen ddr4 prices?

I should prolly sell my video card and ram now, it'd give me more than I paid for the build

[ornate saffron]

no, i havent need to shop for it in several years. I know ddr5 is high

[last bluff]

also how do I link from screenshots?

[ornate saffron]

huh.... thats silly my ram is worth what i paid for my 6900 xt lol

[ornate saffron]

right click image ,essage link

[last bluff]

#screenshots message

oh it works! perfect, thank you

[ornate saffron]

asnytime

[last bluff]

anyway, why do mod authors just assume people have this amount of willpower?

[ornate saffron]

i need more context

[zenith pecan]

I left my machine running to see if I actually fixed my baux refinery cluster when I went out, damned thing crashed like 5 minutes after I locked my front door 🤦‍♂️

[sinful roost]

Launched my final parts out to space!!!

[last bluff]

Circuitry alarm (it makes sound)

[ornate saffron]

ah

[zenith pecan]

Oh well, back to refinery watch 2026 🙁

[ornate saffron]

Fix didnt hold i take it

[zenith pecan]

No the game client crashed so I have as much useful information now, as I did when I went out earlier.

[ornate saffron]

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff

@sinful roost

Looks like the machine that goes PING!

[last bluff]

Ayy I made a machine that automatically resets the fuse every 5 seconds

Now I'm gaming

[magic void]

Hey yall just got my first hard drive. I can pick wet concrete or iron wire. I'm leaning towards concrete, any suggestions?

[proven snow]

off the top of my head I'd say the concrete yea

But whatever you think will be the most use to you :)

[magic void]

Thanks, I literally just finished my copper production line too so Ill go concrete.

[ornate saffron]

It may be to late but I think wet concrete requires a machine in phase 3

[magic void]

Coal power? I just unlocked that and got access to water stuff.

[ornate saffron]

No wet concrete needs a || refinery||

[spare prism]

Hi

[ornate saffron]

Welcome back.

I could have told you you didn't need mods for mk6 belts 😛

[spare prism]

Yes I looked into it

[ornate saffron]

😂 I know. I lurk

Factory goes well?

[zenith pecan]

So far that buggered refinery cluster does seem to be behaving, I can only assume I stuffed up its startup sequence in the past.

[spare prism]

I started new game

[ornate saffron]

With mods?

[spare prism]

Yes

I still have old world but like I'm bored

[elfin idol]

honestly kinda underwhelmed by phase 2 of sf+

[spare prism]

I tried starting SF+ but it hurt my brain a lot

[elfin idol]

nothing seems that cool unlocks wise lol, like yh we got steel, yh we got brass now... but thats kinda it

and great i have like 2 more power options but ive not had any power issues the whole game so far

[weary shell]

I just finished the game for the first time, feel empty

[last bluff]

SF+ is at least a blast compared to vanilla

Imagine putting effort in to get to the fun part of the game when you could spend hours on it in phase 1

[elfin idol]

phase 1 just wasnt that fun though

i mean idk am i missing something o.o

[last bluff]

Different strokes for different folks?

Ore processing scratches my itch

[elfin idol]

i mean in a sense it made the game easier lol, you get even higher yields from pure nodes early than base game if you process the ores

tbh maybe i had an easy time because ive not yet had to produce a single screw other than for building stuff

as i got compacted iron plates in my first harddrive

so literally just turn plates straight into reinforced plates in constructors xd

[last bluff]

I mean, don't need to wonder too much if you didn't like it

I'm a devout follower myself

[elfin idol]

compacted iron plates ac just shouldnt exist, not sure why it was added

its such a huge cheese early game

[mortal ginkgo]

phase 1 is not meant to be enjoyed. you cant automate right out of the bat, you cant automate power etc.

however it tests whether you like getting to that point or not, a good way to see if you want to push to automation or if its not for you at all

[elfin idol]

but i did automate

[halcyon yoke]

is there no way to make concrete walls match the darkness of concrete foundations? (im setting my lightness value to -100)

[mortal ginkgo]

no alt recipe is a cheese. they all got their draw backs. either costs more item, costs more space, or costs more power, or a combination of all for "better yield"

[elfin idol]

just so ur aware this is sf+, if you are aware then my bad

[mortal ginkgo]

no, concrete walls avoid that rule I am afraid. If you want to have such wall, you need to pretend-play with foundations and making them as walls.

Half foundations got a nicer-looking side

[mortal ginkgo]

ah ok my bad

Imma leave and continue decorating

[elfin idol]

lol all good xD

[halcyon yoke]

yeah but the issue is im trying to use doors

[elfin idol]

like compacted iron plates means i completely skipped having to make screws, AND completely skipped having to make tin plates

seems a bit busted

[spare prism]

Most people probably wouldn't go and find hard drive after they first land

They would first set up base

[last bluff]

Crushing, sorting, crushing again goes hard tho

[fickle locust]

Rolled credits!

[elfin idol]

i think getting a hard drive or two when you land is quite common...?

plus in sf+ you kinda need to explore a bit to get research done

[mortal ginkgo]

nop, no luck then, gotta use the other type of walls at best

[zealous urchin]

katze katze katze

shroom

why so shroom

[zealous urchin]

what happened to the big dawg

[elfin idol]

yes

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg is busy decorating

[elfin idol]

mycelium

fabric

[zealous urchin]

5% playing 95% decorating

[ornate saffron]

Big doggo a April thing

[zealous urchin]

kakarot power up with mycelia montage

[elfin idol]

i also understand why cs isnt gonna add green energy to the game, that also made my power generation super easy in sf+

[zealous urchin]

well yes ofc

[spare prism]

can i add you to my game i need help with decorating 🤣

[elfin idol]

just threw 50 turbines up and im getting 700mw for free xd

[zealous urchin]

green energy in base game is using alien remains and turning them to biocoal and then turning that coal to uranium with SAM u know the rest

[elfin idol]

ive not played base game

i just decided sf+

[zealous urchin]

but im not artistic, im autistic

[fickle locust]

This is my plan for my next run

[spare prism]

I'll take what I can get

[last bluff]

Static energy cap/generation?

[elfin idol]

it doesnt even fluctuate

[last bluff]

Does for me

[zealous urchin]

i mean based but sf+ is kinda interesting at the start, later on u dont get much choices

[halcyon yoke]

i would die if i had to mismatch my materials so im just gonna stick to a more stable color

[elfin idol]

idk each turbine is capped at 15mw

[zealous urchin]

are u SURE

[last bluff]

#screenshots message

[elfin idol]

and it just depends on the altitude you put it

[last bluff]

This is my turbine experience

[spare prism]

Absolutely

[zealous urchin]

send then the ip i guess

[last bluff]

I even made fuse auto-reset stuff

[elfin idol]

there is a visual for wind speed, but it doesnt affect output

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah we deco mentals dont like that, no no

[last bluff]

Nope, the fuse blows if wind goes down

[elfin idol]

ok so my game is busted or what

[spare prism]

Oh you being fr haha

[zealous urchin]

oh also in sf+ there is that railcanon that shoot solar sails into the space

[last bluff]

Did you untick the "Use power depends on wind (no constant power output)" setting?

[elfin idol]

like i legit just left the settings on default

didnt touch anything installed the mod on sf mod manager

[last bluff]

It'd be really funny if the defaults of the last version are bugged

[zealous urchin]

yea lol im just bored

[last bluff]

Not that I'd recommend playing the mod now if you don't like it just to check

[zealous urchin]

since my last server became empty

[last bluff]

It is nice to finally have a reason to use batteries though

[spare prism]

sent lol

[zealous urchin]

i think it depends on wind turbine

some are on ground

but then higher tiered just fly up

[last bluff]

@elfin idol I see lol, I didn't know. That's an awful default

[elfin idol]

well, guess im restarting

[tough dock]

hello, just a quick question, are planting machines and seed picking machines (like vegetation farming and other organic farming) going to be added?

[last bluff]

I like green energy and I even like the mod's implementation, tho I'd argue it has to be much much worse in the base game, partly because that makes solar panels more useful and makes you want to keep your HUB around, and partly because the base game uses so much less power overall

... I think I'll actually cut the power by a bit for wind and water turbines as it sounds fun (I haven't unlocked the "dam" yet)

Wat

[leaden turret]

there's a farming mod

[tough dock]

i mean is it planned for base game?

[hybrid nymph]

There's a faming mod called "Ficsit Farming"

[last bluff]

FICSIT farming my beloved

[leaden turret]

the devs have expressed an interest over the years, but there's been no indication it's actually planned

[last bluff]

Just like golf