satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

SCIM

[elfin idol]

sounds interesting as a custom option for sure

[sterile blade]

There's a whole list of such settings and recommended modifications based on hardware you can check out at:https://github.com/Lightning999933/Satisfactory-Graphical-tweaks/releases/tag/v0.5.6.1
(There's a different one for Exp version!)

[elfin idol]

oh nice thanks!

tbf my game looks pretty nice with default settings, just that one gave a big visual boost for very little perf drop

[sterile blade]

A single Pure Uranium node would change the power landscape by a lot

[elfin idol]

at least running at 4k on my 2k monitor anyway lol...

upscaling from 2k to 4k that is or my gpu would die

[gloomy tusk]

What is the most common node? I think it’s coal or iron right

[elfin idol]

must be iron surely

[sterile blade]

I love the enhancements for global illumination... All those pretty lights from signs are just

[elfin idol]

yuhhh, i spent way too long playing about with settings for like 2 days a while back only to like not care enough anymore but now ive got a pretty good basis on like exactly how GI/Lumen works in unreal so i guess thats cool xdddd

as a cs/mathematics undergrad it may come in handy some time i guess 💀

[sterile blade]

I got a bit passionate about signs and GI because I used to rely a lot on them for illumination before they got "nerfed" (with 1.0, only billboard signs actually do GI, without "enhancements")

[elfin idol]

what do you mean billboard signs?

[sterile blade]

The biggest ones, coming in 2 varieties

[elfin idol]

huh i swear they all do

the small 0.5m ones

[gloomy tusk]

Is there any light strip mods?

Idk how to make lights so iv been looking for a mod to help me out 😭

[elfin idol]

i mean i have a 0.5x0.5m sign and its definitely working with GI 😭

with no tweaks applied on the GI side in console

[sterile blade]

My tests just show some reflection 🤷‍♂️
Eg: #screenshots message

[elfin idol]

weird

mine is different LOL

#screenshots ignore quality when i go to windowed for ss it makes my game look poop

[dense violet]

signs quite often

[elfin idol]

@sterile blade i mean looks like GI to me

in my screenshot, not just glare, thats specular reflection

[gloomy tusk]

How do you make lights out of signs

[elfin idol]

sorry diffuse

not specular

[sterile blade]

No, it's fine. Can you add some walls around it or make the sign face down, to show how it shines light on something below it? (I'm still suspicious of glare on the things directly around the sign)

[elfin idol]

yeah sure!

[dense violet]

use higher brightness

[jagged nymph]

i like how fuel gens pistons actually move faster when overclocked and the sound changes

[dense violet]

and turn on global illumination

[sterile blade]

That works for all machines! 😁

[jagged nymph]

huh i gues i never noticed it

[sterile blade]

With underclocking too~

[jagged nymph]

except on fuel gens

[elfin idol]

as in if its out of frame?

the light source

[sterile blade]

No, out of frame can be problematic xD
Just so that it lights up something in front of it, excluding possibilities of reflections or other non-GI shenanigans

[zenith pecan]

Welp, my hmf plan got turned upside down when I saw the amount of limestone for bog standard concrete, now I'm trying to fit eight water extractors onto the lake in the dunes.

[elfin idol]

@sterile blade i actually also found a setting that fixes when its out of frame ill see if i can find that, obvs thats a tweak though

ive got it written somewhere xd

[sterile blade]

To give a better example, I think the difference is obvious between these 2 pictures, specifically in the blue lighting (or lack-there-of) on the walls around the stairs...
Normal GI: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1451040202624733358/Screenshot_20251218-021612.png?ex=699e5fff&is=699d0e7f&hm=ec558876d0a0224f30e136f61c09c833e5ac4202727d491390d6c27179eb1ece
Enhanced GI: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1451040203337760981/Screenshot_20251218-021818.png?ex=699e5fff&is=699d0e7f&hm=194a36ab1b0986fba11684fdaea6f6a8bc26de4487ab00543162dc2fbd8a2a52&

[sterile blade]

I don't doubt there may be one, but it just adds complications to the test now 😅

[elfin idol]

yes in the second one the lights that are out of frame are also being reflected

[sterile blade]

Yeah... That definetly looks like GI...

......
Did CSS just gift Consoles with the best lighting tools? 😭

[elfin idol]

i found that the default probe settings can be a little weird but the others seemed alright from all my testing

[sterile blade]

... Wait a minute, how did you manage to use console settings on console?! (Ironic wording not intended)

[elfin idol]

oh im not on console

or was this like a joke am i missing it

[sterile blade]

Nah, just my misunderstanding based on this message, I now realize 🤦‍♂️

[elfin idol]

i assume that changes things possibly lmao

[sterile blade]

I think there shouldn't be rendering difference between the console and "normal" versions of the game, but can't be sure about that

[elfin idol]

hm i mean in your photos was that console?

[sterile blade]

BTW, are you playing Experimental or not?

[elfin idol]

as we clearly do have a difference there with the 0.5x0.5s

[elfin idol]

nah

[sterile blade]

No, consoles can't even use "console commands" (ironically, given how they're called...)

[sterile blade]

It really do be a weird difference...
BTW, when did you start playing? Just to know what Updates you've had a chance to observe ^^

[elfin idol]

literally this update! ive never had an update

ironically this is my furthest save on phase 2 xd

[sterile blade]

Oh, a noob! How I envy you 😆

[elfin idol]

dont ask why im not just playing the game lol, i should be but i like messing around

[sterile blade]

I know of people who still haven't saved the puppies and kittens, after more than a thousand hours in the same savefile...

[elfin idol]

that will almost definitely be me

but thats ok

[sterile blade]

I personally always rushed towards the endgame, but in hindsight wish I took my time more

[elfin idol]

i spent the whole of yesterday just making like 20 coal generators

[sterile blade]

It's worth spending time on those... Especially to understand how pipes work

[elfin idol]

and making a building for 10 of them which i now need to remake for the other 10 💀

honestly i didnt have any issues with like the functionality 😭 it was all just me being podantic about making it look nice

[ornate saffron]

Thats okay, ive spent all morning wasting my time in game lol

[elfin idol]

anyway lemme see if i can find that setting for the off screen stuff

[night sail]

WTF is the requirement for building mark 3 minner like mark one and two are cheap and then it jumps in cost

[ornate saffron]

mark3 miners use alien technology to break the laws of reality

[elfin idol]

ive basically also been getting every milestone unlocked before doing any factory building towards the phase im in

[sterile blade]

The only guess I could come up with up to now is that it could possibly depend on the fact that my signs were build before 1.0 even came out...
That's the only difference I can think of
@ivory condor I'd like to hear what you think (see replies above and #screenshots message)

[ornate saffron]

i often do this

[elfin idol]

yeah maybe

[sterile blade]

"What looks nice to me?" is a surprisingly hard question to answer... Build more and more and one day you might be content with the answer 😅

I'm still trying to figure it out; you never stop, you just... Settle

[elfin idol]

yeahhh im trying not to look too much at other peoples awesome builds cuz then i become uncontent with mine and spend more time on them for no reason when im like nowhere near the part of the game they are at xd

[ornate saffron]

i like seeing vanilla builds to know hat is possible. sometimes i try to backwards engineer stuff and figure out how they did it

[sterile blade]

Well, early game you're very limited in what you can do anyway, just because unlocks...
But once you have everything then you can start finally copying taking inspiration from all the cool things you've seen around (or came up with).
I have little creativity, so I just end up trying to make something nice with all the cool details and builds I see around the web

[dreamy nest]

im not very creative i am just anal af about my placement

across floors even 🤣

[sterile blade]

TFW you spend an hour trying to figure out how to recreate something just to give up, ask them how they did it and find out mods are needed

[mortal ginkgo]

You should consider decorating as the first time you made that iron plate. It really takes a lot of time to make something look pretty. Sometimes so much that the entire day goes experimenting.

This took me a whole day to content with: #design-and-architecture message

Making things pretty has its own progression

Shoebox -> Pretty Shoebox -> Handsome Shoebox -> Shoebox with Depth -> Pillars added -> Kitties and Puppies are already gone -> Hug your mom -> Wow, now THATS looking good Factory

[sterile blade]

I think I'm (still) at step 4 or 5...

[mortal ginkgo]

In the end everything is just glorified shoebox kek

I mean, look at irl factories and you will see it.

[sterile blade]

Curved architecture takes a bit of a leap from that, though

[mortal ginkgo]

Eh, I only do diagonal. If someone really wants curves, they should use the easy-curve mods.

[sterile blade]

I like to tell myself that I can do cool things with just reclangles. I'm totally not trying to ignore circles and how that would make all I've built feel inadequate all-over again...

[elfin idol]

hm

after checking i think whatever tweak i made that enables the off screen reflections/difuse lighting must have to be in engine.ini, as none of the console commands do it

but it still definitely works

maybe i threw it in usersettings ill see but i doubt it

[sterile blade]

Modifying the .ini file should be done anyway, if you want the changes to be permanent, iirc

[balmy schooner]

Can someone help me pls, i need help building a hyperloop canon

[elfin idol]

yeah

some settings have to be changed on engine startup though

like they wont work in console basically

[sterile blade]

In #1038092680493801533 you can add pictures to show what the issue is (also, more "on topic" xD)

[dense violet]

look up a current update tutorial on youtube, your best bet

[sterile blade]

You mean, even after having changed them in the .ini?

[elfin idol]

nah, just like some settings can be changed in the ini but not in game in the console

[balmy schooner]

They only explain it for pc but i need to know how to rotate things vertically on Playstation

[elfin idol]

which is annoying cuz im just trying to figure out which one exactly did it

and there are a lot that i messed with

[dense violet]

just build a 1.1 or 1.2 set up on a wall

or a tutorial that talks about playstation

[sterile blade]

Just ask "how to rotate things vertically on Playstation".
#satisfactory-consoles or #1038092680493801533 might give the quickest answers

[dense violet]

it's also possible the exploit doesn't work on the console build

[balmy schooner]

Already did on #satisfactory-consoles but nobody there rn

[balmy schooner]

😭

[elfin idol]

i mean basically hardware RT works if you make the change in .ini but not if you change it in game which allows for off screen lumen shenanigans

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I heard about that.
If you want someone to truly analize these details with, you should try to @ the creator of the settings list I shared earlier (they're in this server and still updating the list, especially since the new update)

[elfin idol]

yeah, likely a good idea but i also kinda wanna play the game at some point xD

[balmy schooner]

There is none on yt unfortunately

[elfin idol]

just spent 5 tickets getting the middle size signs to test something rip

[dense violet]

again - try a 1.1 or 1.2 just flipped on a wall then

[elfin idol]

theyre getting hard to get at this point

[sterile blade]

AFAIK, hardware RT should not be achievable in SF, even with engine tweaks...
But again, you'd have to @ lighting to know more, I'm just relaying what I heard without the technical knowledge to back these claims up ^^

[elfin idol]

yeah i heard this but its weird because it 100% was working

like i put screenshots iirc

[sterile blade]

Repeating the same question in multiple channels might get you more attention, but also gathers annoyance as it's often seen as spam 😅

[elfin idol]

#screenshots message

seems the older ones showing it working have been like cleared or something but this was with those settings im on about applied

not a great example as its in frame

[coral marsh]

i wish there where alt recipes for the adaptive control unit and the director assembly system, both recipes are ass

[balmy schooner]

I made a question in #1038092680493801533 👍

[ornate saffron]

no

[coral marsh]

yes

[sterile blade]

⚔️

[coral marsh]

come on, phase 4 requires 5, hundred, of the assembly systems

[dreamy nest]

It only gets worse

[coral marsh]

i find it far easier and more fun to craft the 250 thermal propulsion jets

[coral marsh]

i am well aware

alt recipes for even just the director system would be nice, even if it meant using a manufacturer instead of an assembler

[elfin idol]

#satisfactory-experimental message @sterile blade theres these too

note not actually on experimental lol, i didnt realise what the channel was for

thought it meant like modding etc

[sterile blade]

Not sure if it may interest you, but I can provide a savefile with tons of signs inside if you'd like to test things out in it (the pictures I shared are taken in that)

[jagged nymph]

manufacturers are so easy to make look good

[elfin idol]

sure! im not sure how it works but go for it

do i just like drag it into my saves

[coral marsh]

blenders are my favorite but yea i do agree

[floral trellis]

In need of some help with my power plant which ever way I configure coal generators I am not getting enough coal throughout them all causing for the fuse to trip all help welcome

[jagged nymph]

beldners are pretty sick too

and you get the mix of pipes and belts

[elfin idol]

throw me in a good area to minimize spoilers

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

try these easy beginner layouts

[elfin idol]

if you can :')

i do wanna like enjoy the game

trying to not spoil as much as i can that is before i get there

[sterile blade]

As soon as you load the game, you see a new "game session" related to the new savefile(s).
I'll send it through DMs because #rules about file sharing
I'll need a couple hours to edit the save to minimize spoilers though xD (I'm far from PC)

[floral trellis]

The first one is basically what I have got but still not working

[elfin idol]

oh its ok like u dont need to worry too much if theres some new machines

[jagged nymph]

computer factory is online

lets hope it spins up without issues

[dense violet]

check if the coal is backing up in your miner

[elfin idol]

just like throw me in a good factory is all

[ornate saffron]

im trying to do that.... i keep getting side tracked by decor

[jagged nymph]

lucky for me i never make stuff look good

[floral trellis]

@dense violet can we pm so its easier yo keep track of messages lol

[jagged nymph]

WAIT NEVERMIND I FORGOT TO HOOK UP THE COPPER

[coral marsh]

and phase 5 re-unlocked

[ornate saffron]

i got all the resources coming in though and all ingots are in production

[coral marsh]

finally

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[mortal ginkgo]

Daily Reminder: Decorating your factory provides 0.01% efficiency for your machines become happy yes.

[jagged nymph]

copper connected, computah factory should now spin up

[fiery pewter]

"Fuse Blown"

[jagged nymph]

nah i ran the numbers

its only 6.25 per minute anyway, not too much power

[fiery pewter]

-# Chinook enjoyer meeting A350 enjoyer, 2026, colorized :P

[jagged nymph]

i saw a chinook yesterday

[fiery pewter]

What you need 6.25/min for anyway?

[jagged nymph]

depot

[fiery pewter]

I have never gotten that far, so I wouldn't know

[fiery pewter]

Ah for signals and the likes?

[jagged nymph]

yeah various things need computers

and the numbers worked out well on 6.25

[fiery pewter]

Nice

[jagged nymph]

next up is the heavy frame factory

[ornate saffron]

is this your first playthrough?>

[jagged nymph]

no

ive never beat the game before but its not my first save

[ornate saffron]

sweet. What are the frames for? jjust general use or are you building a bigger project

[jagged nymph]

general building use

so ill only make like a few per minute

[ornate saffron]

fair

[jagged nymph]

manifolds my beloved

[ornate saffron]

im on the fence. I may just make a big HMF factory and incude the expansion into Fused frames

[jagged nymph]

i hate the cubes

[ornate saffron]

ya, thats why i wana do two birds one stone

[jagged nymph]

i should make one huge cube factory lol

[elfin idol]

@sterile blade ur right about hardware RT that doesnt do anything, r.AOGlobalDistanceField.MinMeshSDFRadius=0.0001 is what makes the difference

and you can actually just apply that straight into the console lol

might as well just set it to 0 tbh it doesnt change much at all

performance is identical

[spark ruin]

we'd need the devs to ship the game without removing the HW RT

which will never happen probably

most devs do that too

[elfin idol]

yeah would be cool even just to mess about with

tbf CS is a cool company maybe they will

for modders and such

[elfin idol]

im currently setting up a low performance footprint version of my engine.ini for people to try if they want to :) it did take me quite a while to find all the settings so seems a waste to not share, i know there are other options out there but mayhaps mine could run better for you or you might just prefer it

[jagged nymph]

computer factory is almsot spun up, jsut need the circuit boards to saturate into the manufacturers

[junior cedar]

@jagged trail
#screenshots message

Is this all vanilla?

[jagged nymph]

i dont see any non vanilla in any of those images

[sterile blade]

Sent a friend request~

[coral marsh]

setting up time crystals has to be my #1 favorite thing to do in this game

particle accelerators are the * best* machine in the game

[haughty verge]

Does anyone know why my blueprints won't save? Playing on a friends world and I have built a blueprint, it is not saving anything to the blueprints folder for the world save.

I have clicked so many times and it just won't save. I have the folder open and it doesn't update

[last bluff]

The most complex of vanilla end-game megafactory processing lines < the humble ore crusher

[spark ruin]

shatbots arent good at this

[dense violet]

you probably have a weird character in your save file name

in your session name I mean

[haughty verge]

it is called "HELLO WORLD"

[jagged nymph]

da loops

[dense violet]

maybe get rid of the space

[haughty verge]

How do i get my friend to rename it

[elfin idol]

shatbots?

[spark ruin]

i believe he said he uses modded structures and some console commands to make those reflections look like mirrors

[spark ruin]

ChatBots*

or LLMs

[elfin idol]

i know? xD

[dense violet]

I think they can change it from their main menu?

[jagged nymph]

shitbots

[elfin idol]

as someone doing cs at uni trust me i know that

[coral marsh]

i'm a massive fan of highly advanced technology irl so the loops always ahs me in awe

[elfin idol]

thus why i looked at the unreal documentation

[spark ruin]

the engine.ini tweaks you created with it are terrible

[elfin idol]

i mean ok but i didnt, mad that we are in a world where everyone just assumes chatbot usage

[jagged nymph]

thyre so cool when you line them up so you can look through like 20 of em in a line

[coral marsh]

i plan to use a lot of them in nuclear production, so i'm gonna be so damn happy lol

[viral abyss]

Wonder when they will realise no one uses the jump pads and get rid of them

[coral marsh]

i haven't used them once

[jagged nymph]

better be ready with a lot of power lol

[coral marsh]

oh i will be

[spark ruin]

well i do
no one who looks to add HW RT in a game is gonna edit CSM's, TAA, SSR and manually set rez scale

[coral marsh]

i'm working on 1440 fuel gens producing a staggering 360Gw

[jagged nymph]

damn

thats alot

how much space does that many gens take up

[coral marsh]

rocket fuel

[dense violet]

10x as much as you'd have to have if you did nuclear for the same power

[coral marsh]

lemme show you half of the fuel gens

[jagged nymph]

im looking at the nitro tocket fuel alternate and it looks way better in every way than the default one, am i missing something?

[ornate saffron]

Its great. Uses lots of sulfur which is the biggest complaint. But I like it

[coral marsh]

i'm hoping the math works out the way it's supposed to because i need 1 blender to supply 90 fuel gens

[jagged nymph]

more than the default?

did i do my math wrong

[coral marsh]

i'm using that one adn it's really good

[ornate saffron]

No clue, but sulfur is a optional resource so im okay with using it

[coral marsh]

it lets you skip out entierly on havignt o make turbo fuel so less refineries

[jagged nymph]

yeah, im definitely using that alternate for my rocket fuel plant

[spark ruin]

and they wouldnt add commands that were already set that given way by default
as well i doubt anyone would comment in "; === Core Ray Tracing ===" with one command after it, that is the style of LLM's, same style i saw elsewhere where that person admitted to using copilot
if its not LLM generated then its low effort

[coral marsh]

@jagged nymph have a look in #screenshots

[jagged nymph]

holy shit

blueprint autoconnect mustve been a life saver there i imagine

[elfin idol]

i messed with the CSMs because i didnt like how the shadows had a clear boundary between the local shadows and the distance field ones, the TAA? of course im going to edit that like what are you thick? the SSR was actually just me trying to do something with water reflection quality that never actually worked, like im not a professional ill admit 100%, and the res scale was just easy to throw in at the end like what

[coral marsh]

yesn't

i have blueprint zooper (the mod) tha'ts a much bigger help

[jagged nymph]

ah yeah im using that one too

[coral marsh]

it's amazing

[jagged nymph]

yeah idk why its not a built in feature

[spark ruin]

the game will use lumen reflections on everything once you enable GI in settings

[elfin idol]

tbh i think a chatbot might have made some better tweaks than i did lmfao

[elfin idol]

yes as i realized

i left some stuff in there like by no means was it me packaging a final mod lol i was literally messing about

i think if you go back thru my chat logs from the old stuff you can even see i said a bunch of the tweaks are redundant

so yeah call it lazy if you want

but not ai generated lmfao

i can almost see the redittor with glasses smirking as he thinks he called someone out

[spark ruin]

i dont believe you : )

[elfin idol]

o k : D

well enjoy not believing me if it makes you happy :D

[river marsh]

do i really have to replan my whole factory after i unlock miner mk2

[jagged nymph]

i can tell they didnt

[jagged nymph]

only if you want to

[dense violet]

just extend parts of it or split off more parts to a dif spot

[spark ruin]

how so ?

[jagged nymph]

first of all its a wierd thing to lie about, and second they wouldnt react like they are

that is reacting to you calling them out

[spark ruin]

i could see someone reacting like this if they were using an LLM for it

[jagged nymph]

i mean they could

[reef basin]

no, not at all

just build new factories and keep old ones

there's practically never a reason to touch existing factories

[jagged nymph]

but also if someone used an llm to generate something, and then someone said something like "wow this is so bad why did you use an llm" they probably wouldnt say "no i wrote it its not ai i wrote the bad thing" and even if they did they probably wouldnt then say "ok thats fine if you dont want to believe me if it makes you happy"

[elfin idol]

also for example i doubt if i was using a chatbot i would have figured out that foliage LOD distance scale also effects rendering of other meshes and other weird details like that, like?

[coral marsh]

with converters making 10 cubic meters of excited photonic matter per cycle time (every 3 seconds) but 200 per minute at 100% clock speed, if i put 4 in one blueprint and use mk2 pipes to connect them all, will the pipes be overloaded by the 800 per minute? or would the 40 cubic meters per cycle time be fine for mk2 pipes.

[elfin idol]

thats stuff that CS clearly added as an ease of life when it came to their workflow, stuff like that a chatbot wouldnt understand i assume

[jagged nymph]

mk2 pipes can only do 600/m

[coral marsh]

yes that i know

so i'm assuming 4 converters doing 800 per minute would overload the pipes

[spark ruin]

now that is true

[dense violet]

you would need at least 2 pipe's worth of throughput yes

[coral marsh]

okay thanks, i just had to be sure

i'll markt he 4 down to 75% each

[spark ruin]

true
but i could also see that being a tactic to make it go away tho too 🤷‍♂️

[ornate saffron]

A mk2 doubles the output of a mk1

You can upgrade it then put a splitter infront shunting the resources elsewhere while leaving you current facility untouched

[river marsh]

yeah thats what i thought of doing

[dense violet]

you said you understood that mk2 pipes could only do 600pm.. very confused about 'had to be sure' as I said the exact same thing just in a slightly different way

[river marsh]

its like too much work at once tho

[sterile blade]

How about we drop the pointless and baseless speculations and get back to productive discussions about how to improve lighting? 😅 (which we all want to do~)

[coral marsh]

because i wanted to know if the 800 per minute wasn't the cap but the production per cycle was

i was just making sure on something i was very likely ovethinking in the moment

[spark ruin]

fair enough

[coral marsh]

i personally don't like how the lights in the game consume so much power and only light up such an incredibly small area

[ornate saffron]

The game map is huge and there is so much resources. There is no need to rebuild especially during your first run. Rebuilding feels bad as you literally redo what you did. Just move on. Accept you did good and look at ways to improve as you move forward.

200 hours from now when you see credits roll you can come back to the humble beginning and see how far you have come

[coral marsh]

irl, a 10Mw bulb/light would like up an absolutely massive area, but would also, likely need to be water cooled

[spark ruin]

you can use signs too
though you cant turn them on or off easily

and you need to enable GI for that

[coral marsh]

Thats also, a problem. I wont be using signs in that way

[glacial drum]

The quickest way to turn them “off” would probably have one with each setting to copy and paste off to the side

[spark ruin]

why not ?

[spark ruin]

doesnt work when you've got thousands of them

[coral marsh]

1 Megawatts in a light is an absurd amount of illumination and heat production, even the best lighthouse Xenon or Halogen bulbs dont pass 50Kw

[reef basin]

we don't have any confirmation that 1W in SF universe is equal to 1W in our universe

[sterile blade]

Dearl lord... imagine the playerbase' reaction to lights needing a water pipe to run

[glacial drum]

Much quicker than manually going into each one is my point. Yea it’s gonna be long either way but I’d argue that’s quicker than manually changing each one

[spark ruin]

true

[coral marsh]

I personally would love it

Irl, a 50Kw Xenon bulb has a self contained water cooling loop, but they can be hooked up to a flowing system

[glacial drum]

Use half the sulfur on the map for rocket fuel and you’ll never worry about power again

[coral marsh]

A lot of laser components above a certain power range are also water cooled

[glacial drum]

maybe.. maybe you won’t..

[coral marsh]

Im using about a quarter of the maps sulfur for rocket fuel and am still managing to produce enough rocket fuel for 1440 fuel gens

[glacial drum]

I use 1/6 of it and I make 162kMW

[sterile blade]

Skill Time issue :P

[ornate saffron]

If you like i can send you my thoughts and details on nitro rocket fuel. About to start work so it'll be a few hours

[glacial drum]

Over 270 gens.

[reef basin]

*162GW 🙂

[glacial drum]

Do you not use shards to over clock at all?

[coral marsh]

In Gigawatts please

[coral marsh]

Not on fuel gens, no

[glacial drum]

I just do it to mess with you nowadays

[zenith pecan]

Nitro rocket fuel was pretty good for me 😄

[glacial drum]

Any reason why?

They’re not too bad to automate

[reef basin]

not funny and being wrong at the same time 🤷

[coral marsh]

I always build on such large scales and short of accessing t9 as fast as humanly possible, I dont see the point in gathering up all 2 thousand+ shards for just generators

[spark ruin]

imagine trying to have lights that are enabled during the night and off in the day with (thousands of) signs
you'd spend more time turining them on and off that playing the game

[coral marsh]

If i was to shard them all, i would calmly wait until tier 9 so I could mass produce hundreds, if not thousands of power shards and go for a truly, unfathomably, insane value of power

For 1440 fuel gens i would need 4,320 power shards

[glacial drum]

Fair. I have 270 at 240% so I can’t even imagine placing more than double that

[zenith pecan]

I sharded all mine just for "compactness" in spite of the resulting facility still being so huge it can be seen from anywhere on the map.

[glacial drum]

Let’s see

[coral marsh]

I might however, max overclock 250 nuclear reactors since im using the one mod that increases the power output of nuclear reactors 10 fold from 2.5Gw to 25Gw

[sterile blade]

Just make a giant zipline-course that travels along all signs, so you can just hop on and keep CTRL-Ving until morning comes and you have to do it all over~

[glacial drum]

So you make 288GW, yes?

[spark ruin]

would my keyboard even be alive after a month of that ?

[glacial drum]

Could hold down the buttons.

Works on console, atleast

[coral marsh]

Haha, no, with 250 reactors at 25gw each, I would be producing 6.25Tw, multiply that by 2.5 and you have 15.625Tw

[glacial drum]

I meant for your RF gens

[coral marsh]

Oh it'll be 360Gw

[glacial drum]

1440*200

[coral marsh]

250*

[nocturne nebula]

oooh, I found a jetpack

[coral marsh]

1 fuel gen produces 250Mw

[glacial drum]

Still forgetting after placing 270

Well what the heck makes 200 then

Maybe I’m thinking of coal gens that make 20? I think

Couldn’t say for sure. I haven’t touched anything but fuel for 200 hours

[coral marsh]

Coal gens make 75Mw

[glacial drum]

Man what is up with my memory today

[sterile blade]

Console privilege

[glacial drum]

Nothing makes as low as 20 MW. Even BB make 30.

[coral marsh]

Actually the BB's on the hub make 20Mw each

[glacial drum]

Huh. Interesting

That must be why they consumed biomass slower. I was wondering back when I started.

Maybe it’s time for a replay of the game. After my 251 hour completion I haven’t played much besides to replay ficsmas. I’ve been off playing the Resident Evil games.

Maybe I’ll go work on remaking my old coal power plants. Or just turning them into steel plants.

[junior creek]

hey guys I've heard here that tractors are really awful for item transfer but are they really that bad because I just unlocked them and have thought about including them in my next project

[coral marsh]

Trucks carry more

Way more, the storage space on the tractor is really low

[junior creek]

so I shouldn't waste time on tractors?

[coral marsh]

You can use them if you want, but they're better over very short distances

[junior creek]

so then converyor belts are kind of the better solution right?

[coral marsh]

Yup, belts, truck, train

The drone is a better option than the tractor

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
tried to get a tilt-shift shot but it didnt come out as good as i wanted it to

[dense violet]

there's not really much difference - you can just add more tractors to the route if you want more throughput

[unkempt blade]

the tractor uses less power and resources and a tractor route could have significantly higher throughput than a drone

the only thing drones are best at is letting the player be lazier about setup

[junior creek]

I still don't have drones lol I guess I'll stick to conveyors for now

[junior creek]

I might try something with the trucks then

thanks y'all

[dense violet]

most of the issues people have with any of the vehicles is that they choose bad places to try to use them.

[wind sentinel]

Hi 😄

im a new player, i reach mk2 drills yesterday, any tips to transport materials?

[reef basin]

best is to not transport them 🙂

[dense violet]

belts are still fine to move things

[tall lantern]

same way you already have been

[junior creek]

well I just want them for the looks cuz I'm making a factory and I was thinking about delivering the ore by tractors to the factory instead of having tons of belts around

[reef basin]

just build where materials are instead of transporting them

[dense violet]

plan around the terrain

[wind sentinel]

i need to move materials, i dont have everything close

[junior creek]

thanks

[tall lantern]

you don't though. you can either just make it all there and leave it there, or move the finished product

[dense violet]

again - belts - or make a factory at the nodes

[wind sentinel]

thanks

[tall lantern]

(when you've done some specific MAM research it's even more of an idea to leave them be, but before then it's up to you if you want to ship them somewhere more easily accessible, or just take a trip out every so often)

[glacial drum]

Try to build near the ores you need. If you must transport items for any reason try to transport the densest version of that item. For example, iron ingots make rods then screws. Screws are a lot more space taking than ingots/rods. Transport the ingots/ore first then convert it right before use in another machine.

[unkempt blade]

Sometimes you just have to move stuff. For belts you'd want to try to move it as the lowest number of items and for vehicles you'd want to move it as the fewest number of stacks. If you can combine stuff locally to make this easier that's normally the goal

[glacial drum]

Wonder what I should do next. I’m really not sure tbh. Not much I can think of past completing the game

Maybe restart or improve my encased beams factory finally

[tall lantern]

get the rest of the achievements and statues if you haven't already

take a break til 1.2 is also valid

[unkempt blade]

1. Global train network
2. biggest factory skatepark ever
3. giant rainbow spanning an entire biome

[jagged nymph]

all i have left to automate for this phase is ai limiters, high speed connectors, crystal ocilators, and heavy frames. Then the elevator parts ofc

[glacial drum]

Yea I’ve got every achievement on this file. Might just take a break like I’ve been doing. That or just making other factories more efficient.

Probably make some iron factory that finally makes every iron item instead of two separate for “simple” and “advanced” items

[unkempt blade]

It sounds like you're ready to do a save on hardcore mode then. One death, no disassembling what you build, roll dice to pick the recipes you use

[proven snow]

I’m a big fan of challenges. No disassembly doesn’t sound fun to me though, and no death is fine but kinda inconsequential in a game like satisfactory

[feral jay]

Man I wish blueprints had an "upgrade all belts" option...

[weak bloom]

Question about fluids - so I saw the trick to having one pipe up a water tower and then hook it into every other pipe down below to give them all the same head lift as the right of the water tower.
But I'm a bit confused how this works if the entire network is technically connected to one pipe.

Say I have 10 extractors at 120/sec each, if they're all connected together like this does that mean I can technically take up to 1200 water out of the pipe network from anywhere? Just limited to the flow rate of the pipes?

[reef basin]

water towers are just pumps with extra steps
but feeding from above is indeed a pretty reliable way to do fluids

[leaden turret]

headlift is shared, throughput is capped by pipe

[reef basin]

wouldn't recommend the towers, just pump the main pipe slightly above the level of machines and hook it to (preferably looped) manifold

[dense violet]

as others have said, water towers are just pumps with many steps

it also breaks the rule of 'keep pipes simple' as you're interconnecting a ton of pipe systems you don't need to

it also means that if you have 1 problem along ANY of the systems connected, you have to check every single connected system

[feral jay]

I've almost never been able to sustain max pipe flow rates if there's a buffer in the pipeline

[dense violet]

it's very doable - but ... it's just not worth it

pumps are basically free

[feral jay]

(which would include a water tower)

[dense violet]

powered pump directly before and after the water tower buffer should do the trick.

[weak bloom]

Ok so basically anything downstream of a 600 pipe can only support 600, even if there's a pipe connecting a bunch of 600 pipes upstream of that?
I think the idea of pipe manifold is confusing me since you're basically limited at 600 right, why would you loop that?

[reef basin]

you loop it to prevent backflow from hurting your flow

[dense violet]

you just loop the manifold bit at the machine inputs.
it's to manage back flow in high flow pipes

[dense violet]

like so, but with mk2 pipes https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1399363719460556861/image.png?ex=699ee705&is=699d9585&hm=40bd62a7eea20747f5cfd98fc441340e8e01b87f98087c72ca204d6d2867905b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=385&height=300

[feral jay]

In a nutshell, water bounces off the ends of pipes and fucks up your flow, creating a sloshing effect. If you loop the pipes, there's no "end" to "bounce" off.

(sort of, anyway, it's more complicated than that)

[weak bloom]

Ohh interesting

[reef basin]

it still bounces from the machines as it's a dead end as well, but the "backflow" doesn't matter since the fluid can go the other way around in the loop

[feral jay]

👆 and that

[weak bloom]

Does that matter at the producing end? And do I want a fluid buffer anywhere in general? Still on mk1 pipes so just getting started with oil and stuff

[feral jay]

It's important to realize that the game actually attempts to model fluids as liquids, and not just packets of water (a la Oxygen Not Included)

[reef basin]

you never want buffers
and for production you may not need the loop, but if you do, it should be inverted (output pipe at bottom)

[feral jay]

It matters at the producing end, but less so, as the producers have internal buffers, so if their collective production momentarily exceeds 600/min, it's stored for when the pipe flow otherwise drops just a bit. For consumers, if their collective consumption ever exceeds 600/min, you will never average 600/min on that manifold.

Ah there we go https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66f41a74772a987f4a8d0701

upvoted

[dull hollow]

anyone know a good steel factory? having a rough time with having to use coal and iron i aint good at math

[feral jay]

Use a planner. I personally use @reef basin's at https://www.satisfactorytools.com/ all the time, it's become an essential tool for me not because I'm bad at math but because it's just faster to plan things out with something like that. There's a few others, too.

[dull hollow]

shoot i didnt know anything was out and i was able to do that

sweet thank you

[feral jay]

I think there's a pin somewhere with a bunch of tools popular with the community but I can't recall where

[leaden turret]

#welcome message

[feral jay]

@dull hollow some good links there for ya

[jagged nymph]

i always forget how big the map is until i go searching for mercer spheres

[river marsh]

if i attach an mk1 and mk2 converyor belt to a splitter which has an input of 180 units, will the mk2 transfer 120 units and 60 for mk1?

[feral jay]

Splitters don't care what you connect to them, they output in a round robin mode as long as there's room on the belt

[versed cosmos]

yes, that will work

[feral jay]

So if none of the belts are full, it splits evenly. When one belt fills up, it starts putting more on the belts that aren't full

[leaden turret]

mathmathically speaking, it'd try to shove 90 into both, intermittently fail 1/6th of the time and overflow it to the other

[versed cosmos]

"as long as there's room on the belt" is the important part here for what you're trying ti do

[river marsh]

ok thanks

[versed cosmos]

it'll try to put 90/m on the mk1 belt, not be able to, and send the 30/min overflow down the mk2 belt

[river marsh]

ty

[versed cosmos]

which adds to the 90/min it's already sending that way and gets your 120

[jagged nymph]

i wonder how much time went into making the map cause its fucking massive

[river marsh]

alright

[versed cosmos]

lots

coffee stain spent years handcrafting this beautiful map, placing every tree, bush, and blade of grass

[feral jay]

Approximately seven years of woman-hours

[versed cosmos]

now put a huge concrete slab over it all

[weak bloom]

I was getting irrationally annoyed at the default ratios for a while until I realized that under and over clocking is how I should make them make sense lol. Stuff like 45 not working with 240 🙃
But I'm hoarding these power slugs until I get the double somersloop thingy....

[jagged nymph]

im not sure about every blade of grass lol

[leaden turret]

6-8 years

[jagged nymph]

but yeah im soo glad they handmade it

[leaden turret]

don't forget all the hand-crafted 🍆

[feral jay]

Just about, yes. It's a meticulously designed, handcrafted map.

[versed cosmos]

45 works with 90 which is divisible by 30

[weak bloom]

Nice lake you've got there. Would be a shame if someone turned it into a power plant.

[versed cosmos]

just increase the machines until the number its asking for lines up with a multiple of the number you want to work with

[weak bloom]

But it doesn't work with 240 which is the output of a pure node on mk2, that's the issue. Stuff like caterium ingot and concrete. But I just underclocked each machine to take 40 input and it made it easy

[versed cosmos]

change the clockspeed on the miner

my quickwire factory uses 180 caterium ore/min

4 smelters and 5 constructors all on 100%

[sudden moss]

There are Italian Players here?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> <t:1771945242:t> stream today or later / postponed?

[feral jay]

I was just wondering that, I think I have time to actually tune in today

[void gorge]

Yaah was just about to link stuff

[leaden turret]

-# cough don't forget the thread cough

[void gorge]

Oh opted out of making them intentionally, seemed either completely unused or for echo chambering the same tech issues I was always aware of (and no longer have? woo!)

Can bring 'em back if ya want

[leaden turret]

not fussed either way, was mostly just to have somewhere to post the archive link when the clips get indexed (cos community highlights goes in #streams-and-videos ) 😅

[leaden turret]

also since your post silksong stream had you going trobioooooo several times during the stream, will this week's stream have you going pikachuuuuu ?

[glacial drum]

Alright someone lmk if this is accurate. All of these are the products I can make purely using iron and it’s alt recipes. Iron plate, rod, screws, reinplate, mod frame, rotor, stator, and motor

Excluding wire which I am gonna make just not as an output for this factory

Idk if I’m missin anything

[reef basin]

can? yes
should? I would say no

[tall lantern]

steel pipe

[glacial drum]

Meh I’m gonna make an all in one iron factory

Should’ve mentioned that too yea. I’m making that just not as an output

Tryin to figure out how I can use an iron node fully purified

Just for fun

[feral jay]

yep https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=02fflbu9ffyW4xyeBEKI I think all you need is Stitched Plates and Iron Wire

[glacial drum]

Iron pipe aswell. For the stators

[void gorge]

Ehehheh

[glacial drum]

But yea that’s also included in my plans

[void gorge]

I'm silly excited

[glacial drum]

Making 10 of each of those a minute uses 611.652 iron ore/min

I can near double my production.

Perhaps completely double it if I decide to eliminate screws hold on

Nope..

I think I’ll remove screws and iron rods either way. Purely as outputs obv because I’ll need them for inputs but I’ll just make em in the factory

[feral jay]

Actually, you don't need stitched plates if the goal is just to only use iron

[leaden turret]

Ash Ketchum costome on amazon sweden for 563.91kr

[glacial drum]

Ah yes that’s right innit. The normal plate is more iron efficient

No it is not

Holy

Let’s see

I think stitched is the most iron efficient

Time to run the numbers and see what I can do with this. Maybe I’ll use two pure nodes instead who knows..

I’m gonna put these plans in the back burner actually. I want to fix up my older factories to be more efficient first.

[coral marsh]

Theres a mod that adds in "heat-infused" recipes, its for the reinforced plate, modular frame, heavy frame and fused modular frame. It is extremely handy and it uses Fuel in the recipe, blender for all 3

[glacial drum]

Man I just want some dumb project to work on but idk what

[coral marsh]

Dumb huh?, how about, 80 modular frames per minute

[glacial drum]

Perhaps I can try it out when I have a pc.

[coral marsh]

Yee

[glacial drum]

Think I’m making 30 unslooped /min already. Would help my power storage project too

No Im making 62.959/min

[coral marsh]

1 heavy modular frame per minute, using 5 manufacturers set to 0.2 each

[glacial drum]

I said dumb not suicide inducing

[coral marsh]

Thats, not that inducing

[glacial drum]

Although I do need to improve my old heavy factory

Could finally put together one that makes all mod frames plus the hell cube

[coral marsh]

That, inducing would be more like 25 ballistic warp drives per minute without power shards and sloops or 5000 super computers per minute with only 50 shards

[glacial drum]

Oh damn that’s another thing

I remember I have an old supercomputer factory out in the rocky desert somewhere making less than 2/min

1.875

[coral marsh]

Im making 50 per minute

[glacial drum]

I need to improve my power storage tenfold. Perhaps a factory for that.

I’ve already 108GWh in storage

[coral marsh]

Fun, I have 586Gwhr, or, 0.586TwHr's

My goal is 20TwHr's

[glacial drum]

Perhaps with improvement of it I can change it from a big modular blueprint to instead be a large framed building

Although I’d still want blueprints for the placing the storages part itself.. I’m not sure placing that many by hand and connecting them would be sanity inducing

[coral marsh]

You can fit about 56 of them in a mk2 maker

[night birch]

No it’s place it on a pipe , click and hold, use mouse scroll to turn it then once happy release it

[coral marsh]

My auntie has a cat named gizmo

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message This is the most recent ss I have of my current storage. You may be able to see what I mean by modular blueprints

[coral marsh]

Yup

[glacial drum]

That’s from a. mk2 so I’m going to make it on a mk3 either in a similar shape or just differently to fit into a big building I make

[glacial drum]

Counting vertically?

I believe my mk 2 print has 108

[coral marsh]

I have a mk2 blueprint with 56 power storage units and I cant fit anymore

[jagged nymph]

are you stacking them vertically though

[coral marsh]

Why wouldn't I

Its 3 layers tall

[glacial drum]

Huh

Maybe I’m thinking of how much MWh it has

[coral marsh]

Im gonna re do it in the mk3 though at some point

[glacial drum]

Wait I know how I can figure this out.

There’s 6 storage cells visible on the front of each row

Considering the even amount of meters in the print, 6x6=36. 36x3=108

[river marsh]

how do i change direction while moving through a hypertube junction?

[mortal ginkgo]

E

[glacial drum]

E while inside the junction. Or square on playstation.

[unkempt blade]

make sure it's pretty too! #screenshots message

[glacial drum]

I may design a special building for my power storage. I’m not good at building in general so it won’t be something as special as a massive power storage cell to encase it all.. But I’ll think of something

Another thing I could do is just make a proper base. My hub has been sitting in the same biome near the same spot it’s always been. I’ve not any special home just a couple storage bins chucked nearby eachother

I only ever moved it when I did the big move of all my factories 230 hours ago

[coral marsh]

Honestly im usually asleep by now, im just waiting on a response from my Bf who's heavily invested in a new server one of his friends made.

I have no complaints about it. Im just waiting on a yes or no about us going out for dinner in about 14 hours

[coral marsh]

Im gonna try, its gonna be 20 Terawatts so it will need to look cool

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac just leaked the male character model coming in 1.2 (dares you to post it in discord)

[glacial drum]

Man I’m gonna have to check the stream out after I’m off. Gotta get back to working for now

[coral marsh]

Anyone else a huge fan of the bagpipes? Or just, Scotland in general?

Reply in #off-topic-general

[jagged nymph]

batteries need sooo much wire

[coral marsh]

If we ever get Mk2 power storage units, I really hope they use quickwire and heavy modular frames
Mk3 should use quickwire, high speed connectors and fused modular frames

[sinful roost]

I was so excited to unlock mk 6 belts... until I saw them

[glacial drum]

Yea I made a 200/min factory 100 hours ago it’s been crazy to use for drones

[jagged nymph]

what about em

[coral marsh]

Wdym, they're easy to make

Expensive on power, but easy to make

Seriously, we got any Scots here?

[ionic cipher]

hi ! once i unlock petrol should i directly change coal to petrol or wait a bit ?

[fluid sapphire]

You don't need to demolish your coal power plant, just build a new plant using oil and use both

[ionic cipher]

but my actual factory is like a war so i want to start from zero

[fluid sapphire]

Spread out, don't try to jam everything into one location

[ionic cipher]

but idk if changing like i did from biomass to coal is possible

[weak bloom]

Man the building sizes get real big starting with oil.... Needing 2 refineries for turbo fuel is gonna take up SO much space lol

[fluid sapphire]

You have literally the whole map, embrace the space

[leaden turret]

build up

this aint factorio, you can do that now

[coral marsh]

Dude, once you unlock coal you forget about biomass, once you unlock oil, you dont leave your coal behind, instead you build fuel gens as your main source of power and keep your coal gens as back up

[mortal ginkgo]

yes it is, fuel gens tons of power. just keep them around for now

[fluid sapphire]

ADA is not joking about verticality

[weak bloom]

Stacking refineries vertically feels like the pipe lift is gonna be a nightmare, I might just expand out into the void instead lol

[ionic cipher]

ty that was my question

[fluid sapphire]

You don't need to stack them vertically, you build your factories across several floors

Lift is handled by pumps, it's very simple

[weak bloom]

Well yeah but I gotta get the oil and fuel up and down several floors. Which probably isn't as bad as I think it is lol. Wish there was an easy way to see exact height

[fluid sapphire]

I tend to keep my floors like 12 foundations in height (4m variant), that leaves enough room for refineries and their smoke stack and some to spare

[ionic cipher]

and is there a better way than modeler to try some factories ?

[fluid sapphire]

Depends on how much you value all the bells and whistles of modeler

[normal orbit]

Refinery is 8 4m foundations in height

[fluid sapphire]

If you want something more barebones that doesn't bother with implementation details like amount of machines, clock speeds etc, there is satisfactorytools

[ionic cipher]

yeah thats what i meant

ty

[fluid sapphire]

I guess, I just don't like smoke clipping into my ceilings

[normal orbit]

It's happens less on max settings. A 4m foundation above and I see no smoke

[ionic cipher]

im at de beggining of stage 3 what are the h/gamplay needed to end the game ?

[fluid sapphire]

Not bad at all, just a couple pipes here and there #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

What do you mean

[ionic cipher]

in how many hours u finish the game sorry for the english

[fluid sapphire]

Anywhere between 100 and a couple thousand

[unkempt blade]

depends how distractable you are 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

I have about 1100 hours in my save that's close to the end of phase 4

[weak bloom]

And you can just put like 2 pumps next to each other (with a little space between) and it'll work additively, right? Like I don't need the second pump to actually be 20m above the first, I just put 2 and it'll give me 40m of head lift?

[ionic cipher]

it took me 20 hours to complete pahse 1_2

[fluid sapphire]

No, they do not stack, you have to space them out

[full escarp]

Build in void or far over the open ocean. Stack things. You have way more space than you know.

[ionic cipher]

u are distractable

[unkempt blade]

My 1.0 save was something like 110 hours for the elevator objectives but I've also beaten the game a few times before that and I did a lot of optional projects so... it varies

[full escarp]

Reality right there. I have 1900 total.

[fluid sapphire]

I guess you could say that, I build something like this, at a very leisurely pace #screenshots message

[ionic cipher]

WTH

id love to build just 1% of that

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[ionic cipher]

thats called autism man

[fluid sapphire]

You can, no problem

Embrace blueprints

Things get large quickly

[ionic cipher]

so now the closest oil is 2k km far so i have to let coal for the moment

[full escarp]

I hate to agree but yeah blueprints are the key dude.

[unkempt blade]

1. that looks awesome
2. my brain really wants the diagonal to wrap around the building and not start over at each corner 😆

[ionic cipher]

dont understand blueprint yet

[full escarp]

What do you not understand? You put things in -> save -> use at your own leisure.

[fluid sapphire]

Haha yeah, thanks, I guess that would've looked better

It took forever to do those walls fr

[ionic cipher]

But I dont understand the utility for me at the moment

[full escarp]

What stage are you at.

[unkempt blade]

I like doing BPs for that sort of thing now. Saves a lot of time for decorative stuff like that

[fluid sapphire]

Well, I did and it still took forever haha

[full escarp]

Exactly !

[ionic cipher]

Just unlocked fuel

[full escarp]

Oh yeah perfect time to start learning to.use blueprints.

Like for instance...everything machine requires a splitter and a merger...right ?

[ionic cipher]

My actual factory look trash

[fluid sapphire]

I have blocks of machines with belts and wiring attached, they can be built with auto connect and each print has a single power connector so I can daisy chain them. Building something like 40 constructors for example with all the belts and wiring basically already done takes about 1 minute

[ionic cipher]

Ye kinda

[full escarp]

Lol whay

Yes they do

So you could cut that time wayyyy back on all those machines placements

[unkempt blade]

Yeah if something feels like you're doing it over and over you kind of just go "Could this be a BP and save me some time?"

[ionic cipher]

So blueprints are made to do for you all the building

[normal orbit]

You can put 40 constructors in one blueprint :p

[unkempt blade]

I think some people make BPs just to make BPs which as long as they're having fun is perfectly fine but I'd guess they wind up not using a lot of what they make ahead of time

[fluid sapphire]

If you have some kind of construction that you build a lot of, like a block of machines, it's the perfect candidate for a blueprint, it's not limited to how I use it ofc

[full escarp]

Once you start making biome factories.. .youre gunna wanna make blueprints.

[fluid sapphire]

I tend to build mine like lego pieces that snap together

[ionic cipher]

And do I need to build again all the basics as : screws, metal plate and bars etc or I Will not need them

[unkempt blade]

In general early game stuff gets used to make later game recipes. Some of this will depend on what recipes you choose to use

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, you use most of the early game stuff in some fashion to make more advanced parts

[ionic cipher]

This game takes me wayyy tooo much Time fr

[full escarp]

Lmao

[fluid sapphire]

Enjoy the ride, don't think about the finish line

[ionic cipher]

30hrs in 4 days

[fluid sapphire]

It's a sandbox

[jagged nymph]

yeah, most other items in the game need iron products somewhere in their crafting tree

[unkempt blade]

yeah this is accurate 🤣

[full escarp]

Its meant to take thousands bro

[fluid sapphire]

1000 hours in 1 year

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message I like my big stacks :3

[full escarp]

1900 hrs in two

[ionic cipher]

I cant play a thousan in a day unfortunetly

[fluid sapphire]

Pretty slick and dense

[full escarp]

....lol uh yeah could use imagine warping spacetime to play a game

[fluid sapphire]

Polar opposite to how I build hehhheh

[ionic cipher]

Is that hell ?

There is no light 😂

[unkempt blade]

it's clearly Earth from outside of the matrix

[fluid sapphire]

Blueprints save you hundreds of hours of repeatedly building the same stuff

You can spaghetti your way through the game in 100-150 hours no problem (kidding, you will most likely experience a bunch xd)

[ionic cipher]

Spaghetti ?

[fluid sapphire]

Like this but progressively worse as you go #screenshots message

[weak bloom]

I've not really been doing much with blueprints for factory chunks so far because I feel like the moment I've set up a print that works for a particular input rate, I'll unlock mk3 miners a couple hours later and have to redo it all. So I'm kinda shelving that problem until I get mk3 miners.
It's been super useful for infrastructure templates though, I made a tower blueprint with a bunch of conveyor floor holes that just lets me belt like 8+ conveyors down a cliff whenever I want in like 2 minutes flat

[ionic cipher]

Oh yeah thats me

[fluid sapphire]

I don't see how miners play into how a block of machines is set up, you just build more blocks to handle the extra volume

[ionic cipher]

I hate that thats why I want to moove to fuel and get out of my old factory

[weak bloom]

Tbh I'm probably overthinking a lot of it. I keep starting with the final product and work backwards to make the whole line fully efficient when it would probably be better to just throw down blocks of machines for all the intermediate components and let them overflow

[twin parcel]

Does anyone have a bus version for pipes ? I couldn't find any blueprints online for that .

[normal orbit]

its not that hard to make modular blueprints where you can make them in sizes of like 300/min, 600/min, 1200/min and just build more of em as you get better belts and miners

[fluid sapphire]

I also work backwards, but I don't often do it manually, sftools handles the math, I handle the implementation

[weak bloom]

Yeah there's a part of my mind that's like "why would you do that if you're not gonna use the ingots" and I need to tell that part of my mind to shut up

[normal orbit]

or 240, 480, 780, 1200 whatever

the limit is you :p

you can also build factories with the t6 belts in mind even if you dont have em, then as you get the t6 belts and mk3 miners, you just upgrade those and then the t6 comes in it splits off into what you've built

[bold heron]

Sad i hoped for a new coffee stain announvment regarding 1.2 today.

[normal orbit]

did that with my aluminium plant, was designed to use all bauxite, but i only had t5 belts, so the whole thing operated on 300 or 600/min, then as i got t6 belts, i just split them into 2 600/min train terminals as designed and then whole factory ran

[mortal ginkgo]

stated previously Friday will be

[weak bloom]

While I still have limited power shards I assume it's generally worth overclocking resource nodes rather than production machines? Since I can just build into the void or sky and deal with the extra machines

[maiden dock]

hello all! I just joined and am happy to be around fellow satisfactory enjoyers

[twin parcel]

Well I suggest u spilt ur factory to compartments and expand its production capacity vertically, for example , just stack more smelters vertically.

[normal orbit]

overclocking resource nodes will provide more resources yes. overclocking factories just reduce the amount of machines you need at cost of power

[west jackal]

Sapphic, would you recommend something like processing all aluminum into ingots in one place, then transporting that to other factories?

And also, if I did do that, can I have one train with multiple cars to do different stops? Or should I have individual trains for each destination

[normal orbit]

well i trained in all bauxite and other materials needed to one big aluminium factory which made 12300 ingots/min. then i had production there of casings, sheets, flasks, trigons etc

[bold heron]

You build a new factory but it only runs at 99%.
What do u do ?

1. Ignore it and move on.
2. Spend hours try to find out why its not 100% and fix it.
3. Tear it all down and build again ?

[twin parcel]

Or go to a save point where u didn't build it yet .

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message never did fully finish it, but it ran at 100% :p

[weak bloom]

2, get frustrated, give up, then 3 🙃

[spice patio]

@void gorge You stopped YouTube stream...

[west jackal]

do you have a mirror on the right there?

[spice patio]

Ok, seems both went down.

[west jackal]

absolutely number 2. spend longer fixing the issue you made at 3am because you didnt upgrade 1 belt or place 1 pipe

[normal orbit]

mirror on the right?

[west jackal]

yeah it looks highly reflective

shit that may just be a hole in the wall...

[normal orbit]

its just a hole :p

[west jackal]

whoops

[normal orbit]

its before i belted and piped the blenders

[west jackal]

how much bauxite are you bringing in? Where did you base that, how many trains and how did you manage the logistics

[normal orbit]

so nothing there

[west jackal]

what are the blenders for

[normal orbit]

instant scrap

[west jackal]

is that worth using sulfur on?

[normal orbit]

i had 4 stations up top with 8 trains, each trains 2 engines 8 cars, then another two trains below taking in resources from swamp, which was same size

if you want max production, no. if you're dead sick of building a billion refineries? very worth it imo

[west jackal]

well i dont have blenders, should i wait till i get them to do something that cool? 🙂

i am not going to copy your build, but maybe something similiar

[normal orbit]

its 12300/min bauxite to 24600 scrap/min back to 12300 ingots/min

[west jackal]

is that all the bauxite?

[normal orbit]

yes

[glacial drum]

To make my 1 TWh storage I’ll need 69 of my 147 cell blueprints. Not even counting framing if I do some I’ll need 50,715 encased beams, 101,430 mod frames, and 1,014,300 wire. Holy hell

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> stream dead?

[glacial drum]

That’s not even counting the wire/cable to connect all the power storages to eachother

[tall lantern]

that sounds like an excessive amount of storage

[west jackal]

i assume you made a small aluminum factory before that to get the rcu for the blenders right?

[glacial drum]

I don’t know the exact number for the blueprints considering I only calculated for the cost of the power storages

[serene rose]

Yes (I think)

[tall lantern]

are you expecting to even need that much?
on a ps5 I expect your device'll keel over before you get anywhere near actually using that much power lol

[glacial drum]

Yes. It’s 10x~ what I have now.

[normal orbit]

prob gonna take months to charge up :p

[glacial drum]

No Im not. Its just to have fun

[west jackal]

and what other alts did you use sapphic

other than instant

[glacial drum]

I’m making 162GW rn (from just RF) so yea it’ll take a bit

[normal orbit]

instant scrap and pure aluminium ingot. dont think i used other alts

[glacial drum]

I plan to have some charge while I setup others

First I must plan factories for the making of this obscene amount of items needed

[west jackal]

do you build rcu there or just sheets casings etc then shipping them out to other factories>

[glacial drum]

I suspect my ps5 will keel over from just the animation of them charging if I’m nearby.

[normal orbit]

i had rcus there

[west jackal]

and what are your thoughts on drones over trains for smaller scale transport

[normal orbit]

i may have used the heatsink alt with rubber

[west jackal]

sorry if this is a lot, im in class rn so i dont want to boot up the game and i enjoy your input bc youre a much better builder than me

[glacial drum]

It pays that I have atleast 5 indy bins of each material already stored lol

[coral marsh]

One of the best and most fun machines in the game, for multiple recipes, mostly advanced machining including nuclear material production.

[west jackal]

im also still t6 lol

[normal orbit]

drones are pretty good up to ~300/min, if you need more, train it imo

[feral jay]

Or add more drones

[west jackal]

okay, well either way id need to make some batteries with some of the aluminum

are you also doing that in the aluminum build?

would that be considered a mega factory 😛

[misty saddle]

the drones are pretty cool but quite limited yeah

[normal orbit]

batteries? naw, i dont use em, i bottle rocketfuel, then just do dark ion to make ionized fuel for drones

[misty saddle]

i only use them at my nuclear facility at the moment

[west jackal]

sapphic idk wtf dark ion is lol

[normal orbit]

alt recipe for ionized fuel, uses bottled rocket fuel, so it just kinda clips on the production chain :p

[west jackal]

i havent beat the game after 1.0 so there is a lot of "new to me" content

[coral marsh]

Ionized rocket fuel, a very late game fuel type

[west jackal]

like ive never seen t9, although i know the broad things you can do in it

[coral marsh]

t9 is mainly matter conversion and matter encoding

You get access to Ficsonium fuel rod producfion which has zero waste

Teleporters as well

[normal orbit]

t9 is dark matter residue the byproduct :p

[coral marsh]

Mk3 blueprint designer

Synthetic power shards as well

[west jackal]

also shi, ionized fuel takes power shards?? ||ill have to figure out how to automate them||

[normal orbit]

base recipe does yes, the dark ion alt doesnt

[coral marsh]

Tier 9 is when they become craftable after you unlock it in the MAM

[west jackal]

as a side note, for turbo fuel, is turbo heavy a good alt if i have hor alt?

or should i suck it up and haul in sulfur

(more sulfur)

[coral marsh]

I always go for crude to fuel fuel to turbo

[normal orbit]

havnt used turbo fuel since 1.0 :o

turbo heavy fuels seems most costly on the compacted coal

[glacial drum]

I wonder should I use the copper alloy recipe or the pure copper ingot..

[normal orbit]

pure copper if you have the sippy

[coral marsh]

Pure copper if near water

Copper alloy of you dont have the sippy

[normal orbit]

best ratio of all

[glacial drum]

Yea pure copper makes more I just checked

Def gonna use that

[coral marsh]

In vanilla

[west jackal]

it might but i can do it with just refiner, and is more effecient than the standard tfuel right?

[glacial drum]

Considering there’s specifically a modding discord I’d assume anything stated here to be default vanilla

[coral marsh]

I can have my fun

[west jackal]

yes. this is supposed to be spoiler free and generally vanilla on this channel

[glacial drum]

So it seems without using any other alts besides the pure copper ingot I can make 6k wire off one pure copper node.

[normal orbit]

depends what you base efficiency of. you will use more coal and sulfur for slightly more turbo fuel. on the other hand, you can make a crap load of fuel with the hor/diluted fuel recipe so you can use even more coal and sulfur for even more turbo fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

make wire from iron 😄

[glacial drum]

That would take 333.333 minutes to store the million I need

[mortal ginkgo]

wait.. I am lacking context.. why are we needing a million wire?

[glacial drum]

This is why

So more than a million but I have the extra needed already stored atp

[west jackal]

i want the diluted fuel alt, but i dont have blenders, so ill have to use dpf, itll make it a ...messy factory

[glacial drum]

I’ll have to double check how much modular frames I have stored at my 62/min factory

after lunch, that is.

[west jackal]

i also dont know what a good ammount of crude/turbofuel i should be using/making

[normal orbit]

yea, also, and this is just my opinion. i dont bother with turbo fuel or packaged diluted fuel, i get to phase 4, slap up a dirty aluminium plant to make bare minimum to unlock blenders. then make diluted fuel into rocket fuel

[west jackal]

do you make a small fuel power plant?

[normal orbit]

yea

[mortal ginkgo]

w.. why.. why do we need 1 TW power storage?! Are you trying to have enough power until Satisfactory 2 is released? 😄

[west jackal]

because im maxing my power grid with just computer and motor being my most "advanced" productions

[weak bloom]

I just unlocked trains, bit confused on throughput. I think I get how you can calculate number of cars based on round trip time and time to load the train, but since it's basically impossible to exactly match throughput, what happens when the train inevitably overflows at the destination? Will it just wait until it's fully unloaded to go back to the resource node, and then the system is saturated and will operate at whatever throughput is being consumed by the factory?

[tall lantern]

then just make more power

[tall lantern]

it's basically impossible to exactly match throughput
eh?

[normal orbit]

300 crude into 400 HOR into 266.66 fuel makes like 3.3gw, double that up and it usually is enough power with the coal from before to sustain to phase 4

[tall lantern]

just put in the right amount in the loading station, and that amount'll come out in the unloading station, it won't vanish into the aether

so there's no "inevitable" overflowing

[glacial drum]

For fun. I’ve got the platinum already and nothing else to do

[tall lantern]

if you don't do that then it'll just act as an oversize manifold, which is still fine. You can IIRC configure the train to not leave until fully unloaded, but don't have to

[normal orbit]

if it can't unload everything, it will keep the stuff left over in the car, and then load less to fill the car again

[weak bloom]

Ahh ok so just think of it as a manifold and as long as I have enough cars to carry enough per trip that the destination won't empty out before the next train arrives, I'm good

[normal orbit]

protip is to place industrial storages on the in and out and connect both belts so you can load into terminal and empty from terminal faster. and just have a single belt feeding/extracting

[fluid sapphire]

It depends though, doesn't it, if you set it to leave only when empty/full, it will just wait until it meets that condition, which let's be honest, is more efficient as it doesn't cause unnecessary traffic

[normal orbit]

sure, if you dont use the same station for other trains

otherwise you can create other bottlenecks

[fluid sapphire]

If it's only carrying a single type of product, no problem

[glacial drum]

Unfortunately 80 refineries will be needed for 3k ingots.. meaning more staring at em for hours

[normal orbit]

like i often use smaller trains, but multiple to same station. like train 1 uses terminal 1 and 2, and another train from another place will unload at 3 and 4 etc

[misty saddle]

you can limit the loading sites input with belt systems/clock speed etc

or you can just set the train (pretty sure this is default, [might have the wrong time here so someone correct if wrong] to 15s unload.) it’ll just loop the pickup>dropoff route and continue to dock with a full freighter, it won’t sit still at the drop off.

another thing that would work could be an overflow system with a smart splitter that sinks excess if throughput isn’t matched from station to station

i hope that makes sense im very tired 😂

[fluid sapphire]

I opt for a stupid simple design myself, separate station for every product

[west jackal]

i may just do a dpf plant with 300 crude in? i normally do 1800 crude for dpf and use that till nuclear

[normal orbit]

gets kinda large foorprint doign that :p

[west jackal]

should be around 6gw?

[fluid sapphire]

No problem whatsoever, the map is very large

[west jackal]

wait that number is wrong.

how much f/m do gens take

[normal orbit]

300 crude is 800 fuel with diluted packaged fuel

[west jackal]

yeah, how much power is 800 fuel

[normal orbit]

20/gen would be 10gw

[misty saddle]

i do a mix, for example when i ship in caterium, coal, iron and copper into my nuclear plant, i use 4 freight carts as they’re all similar input and come from the same spot. but to ship in the quartz and nitrogen, i use single cart trains

[west jackal]

oh they made 250 each

[normal orbit]

yea at 100%

[west jackal]

idk why i thought that they made 150 each

[normal orbit]

30 -> 75 -> 250 -> 2500 is the power progression per generator :p

[west jackal]

that should be easy its only like 24 refineries

shi i could fit all the HOR into one pipe

[jagged nymph]

anyone here know anything about creating mods?

[fluid sapphire]

Almost all of mine are either 4 or 8 cars, carry 600-1800 raw material, just chill a few minutes at the station, I never have to worry about trip times or throughput problems with so much headroom #screenshots message

[west jackal]

as another side note, how do you manage when youre building a mega factory to have enough parts? like im making 10+/min for most things, but people on here were saying having more than 1 industrial container was excessive, if im making 200 gens or something, would i need more than 1 crate? (this is assuming i go pick stuff up manually and not use dim)

[normal orbit]

would not recommend using both belts out or in to a train terminal, can get super fun inconsistencies

[misty saddle]

yeah that’s crazy work requires a lot of logistics and troubleshooting

i have dedicated import and export stations

[fluid sapphire]

If you use both to load/unload containers, it's fine if the containers themselves are hooked up to the outside system with a single belt

You can still use 2 belts to speed up the loading/unloading of the platforms

[normal orbit]

yea, thats how to do it, but you're capped at 1200/min then, to get more you have to use both inputs/outputs and the game just kinda willy nilly puts stuff on either with no sense of consistency

[weak bloom]

Hmmm sorry about the repeated train questions.
So if I have, say, 2400 resource/min going into a train and I'm using all 2400/min at the factory at the other end. I need to calculate (capacity) / (loading time + round trip time) and add as many cars as needed to make this number greater than 2400, then after the first trip is done, I'm good?

[fluid sapphire]

Honestly, just have headroom, headroom for everything, a normal amount of containers for me #screenshots message

Like do I need that much? Probably not. Is it easy to build though? Super easy so who cares

[normal orbit]

or make more trains. like split the 2400 into two or four cars, check thruput with one train, if they not 1200/min or 600/min at desination add another train

[weak bloom]

What's the benefits to more trains vs more cars other than smaller stations?

[west jackal]

okay fair enough

[normal orbit]

slap a sink on each terminal at destination, and let it run for at least 4-5 round trips and you should have a fairly accurate reading

[west jackal]

more cars is slower

more trains cost more power/blocking issues?

[normal orbit]

cuz with more cars you need more engines and trains get long and will occupy intersections for a longer time blockigng other traffic

[fluid sapphire]

Not true if you stick to a 1:4 ratio of locomotive to freight car

[full escarp]

...maybe just me but I prefer miles of belts lol

[normal orbit]

also the train station get very big very fast

[full escarp]

But tbh I haven't played to high tier completion yet

[west jackal]

hey man didnt you say you arent past t4?

you focus on super cool builds instead

[full escarp]

Nope I've played up to 7 in past builds

But that was like hmmm 2 years ago

Its very different now

[west jackal]

yeah my highest was t8 but that was like u8 i think

[full escarp]

Yeah i have tried using trains and I just find them...too complicated lmao

Im a bit derpy

[normal orbit]

they're really not hard, the biggest mistake people make is just laying a single track and then they limited to just one train going back and forth

the glory of trains is if you have two or more tracks to create an actual highway, then you can just branch off it, make a station, build factory and the logistics are there

and making the highway is super easy with blueprints

[full escarp]

Yes. I agree. I do have a world im doing in creative which has a path im laying out for a global train around the world.

[west jackal]

how many tracks should i really make? do you have a picture of your trains somewhere?

[normal orbit]

like make a 5 length, a 1 length (to curve) and an incline and you're more or less set

[west jackal]

like intersections/cross overs or just the bridges you build it on?

do you run power rails with the train or just use stations for power

[full escarp]

What's good bridgessss 😎

[normal orbit]

rails are powered

[tall lantern]

the important thing is that tracks should only allow trains to travel one way. That usually means having two lanes, but if you don't need that for any individual section, then one is fine.

[west jackal]

do you have room for personal transport? (man cannons or otherwise)

[west jackal]

i know they are, but you cant access the power without a train station (other than hp) right

[weak bloom]

Is it weird that I actually like running between my factories lol
ive also been too lazy to figure out how to build a hyper tube cannon, but that's besides the point

[full escarp]

Running and slide jumping is most efficient indeeeeed

[ornate saffron]

This PLUS zipline on power towers as the zipline preserve momentum

[ornate saffron]

You can also unleash democracy on the local fauna while you travel

[west jackal]

do you guys bother with automating iodine filters?

[west jackal]

helldivers reference?

[full escarp]

I just breathe in and adapt, brother.

[weak bloom]

I really should build a democracy dispenser instead of using nobelisks for everything

[ornate saffron]

Only if i build nuclear power

[west jackal]

do you not do nuclear?

i think im doing max nuclear

[full escarp]

Just become one with the radiation

Become ghoul

[west jackal]

would be an interesting modpack

[ornate saffron]

You can easily beat the game with regular fuel

Big power is usually nitro rocket fuel or nuclear

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message thee diffrent designs i've done. first was a failed experiment, 2nd (purple) worked well, but ran into thruput issues after like 100 trains. 3rd (green) is my current design using two separate lines so i can move high priority items on one line and keep mundane things on the other

[west jackal]

what do i need sam for other than ficsonium rods? how much should i save? for instance, if i use half the available sam for ficsonium rods will that be enough leftover for power shards and whatever else i need

[normal orbit]

need it for ficsite trigons, dark matter, dimensional depots and ore conversion

[ornate saffron]

Ya, when I went big on trains I did a two track one direction railway. And a identical one stacked on top.

I used the lower track for ore and ingots and the top system for parts

[weak bloom]

Do you need the mk3 blueprint designer to start doing stuff at that scale? Lol

[normal orbit]

no, used mk2 for it all

[west jackal]

right, but how much would be a good ammount to reserve for that stuff

[tall lantern]

you never need blueprints tbh

we survived just fine without 'em pre-1.0 😛

[weak bloom]

Oh nice, I'll finish out tier 5 and then start looking at real train infrastructure then

[normal orbit]

i make one blueprint which is 5 foundations long, then a section 1 foundation long (for curving) and an incline which is 3-4 foundations

[full escarp]

Alright grand persons

[weak bloom]

I'm totally fine building factories without blueprints honestly, but infrastructure is a WHOLE 'NOTHER ISSUE

[west jackal]

also @normal orbit does autoconnect actually work when you build that?

[glacial drum]

I think for my 1TW storage plan I’m going to setup some basic factories instead of these big plans I’ve made first. Then after I setup nuclear power so I can actually charge the damn TW I’m gonna improve them if needed

[normal orbit]

not when curving, but otherwise yes

[weak bloom]

So what you're saying is, build blueprints for 30, 45, 60, and 90 degree curves 🙃

[west jackal]

how do you do the curves? i saw you said a 1 foundation long platform, but how do you make curves look nice?

[normal orbit]

i mean if you want to, but theres easier ways

i think i have screenshots showing my method, gimme a min

[west jackal]

in addition to that, when do you decide between 2 or 4 rails?

[ornate saffron]

I like hugging the landscape, cliffs and such. So I just keep it simple and make curves as needed.

[west jackal]

and lastly, do you just put a block signal on every blueprint so you never have blocking issues?

[glacial drum]

I setup a few hand fed manufactures with sloops and make a few hundred of them which lasts me for a while. Even now I still haven’t ran out 200 hours later.

[west jackal]

oh and what are path signals for

[gritty igloo]

Finishing the game ....makes me feel hopeless in life what do y'all do afterwards. I still have the collectable achievement and the Golden Nut but still what would i build for

[full escarp]

What do your building designs look like

[ornate saffron]

Nugget as you mentioned

Then achievements.

The you are free to play like a true sandbox.

Ive cleared the game 7 times over 10 worlds.

I play like Minecraft. Its not about finishing the phases but rather setting personal goals and building cool things

[full escarp]

You'd be a lot of fun to play a creative world with.

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message heres how i curve train highway support

[ornate saffron]

Maybe, although I dont saclve edit or play creative lol

[full escarp]

Creative is good for getting new designs

[ornate saffron]

absolutely. i have a creative save. its just three blueprinters though

[ornate saffron]

current project

#design-and-architecture message

[normal orbit]

path signals are for trains to reserve paths thru intersections with multiple options. it lets multiple trains occupy a block as long as block can have multiple paths thru it without crossing

[weak bloom]

I feel like my goal when I finish the space elevator will be "pick a resource, get the ENTIRE WORLD'S SUPPLY to one location, and uh, use it, somehow" repeat as I feel like 🙃

[full escarp]

You'd really like the stuff.i do

[weak bloom]

But that's also like 1k hours off at the rate I'm going soooo

[ornate saffron]

i like the stuff everyone does. Its why im here

live stream active on twitch. go for 1.2 info lol

[full escarp]

I meant the architecture in the building I put in screenshots but cool

[west jackal]

Ig I need to figure those out instead of spamming blocks?

[coral marsh]

to all the people who are emoting "slug" on my fuel gens, do y'all really want me to shard all 1440 fuel gens? (please say no), i'll need 4,320 shards and like, 3-4times as many blenders

[spare prism]

#screenshots

[normal orbit]

depends on your intersections. some intersection dont have crossing tracks, and wouldnt need to be path signaled. other simple ones just have a path signal on each track going in, and a block going out. then you can make more advanced intersections with multiple path signals and they get chained together

[coral marsh]

i honestly don't think there is enough oil in the game, i may need to sloop alot of the blenders

[spare prism]

hi

[wanton cloud]

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[ornate saffron]

600 oil gives you 2400 rocket fuel. There is easily enough resources inb Blue crater for 4800 rocket fuel

[coral marsh]

i'm making 6 thousand atm

6, thousand, rocket fuel

[normal orbit]

rookie numbers tbh :p

[ornate saffron]

thats 400gw (roughly) how much power do you need?

or is it I WANT more power.

Power over whelming even

[coral marsh]

i don't want to power shard 1440 fuel gens, but the number of people emoting "slug" on my screenshot of just 700 fuel gens implies the people want me to do just that

i'm aiming for 360Gw from fuel gens and 6.25Tw from nuclear power

and maybe, maybe 30-50 from coal

[normal orbit]

nuclear using all 2100 uranium in a full chain to ficsonium makes just shy of 1.5TW

[coral marsh]

i use mods

[west jackal]

sapphic, full chain with all 2100, dosnt that use all the sam?

[coral marsh]

no it doesn't

[normal orbit]

more than all sam, you have to sloop one sam step

[coral marsh]

2100 is raw uranium

[west jackal]

so sapphic do you not use sam anywhere else?

[coral marsh]

if you use sam, then you can have more than 2100 uranium

[normal orbit]

you need more ficsite trigons then you can make with all the sam on the map

to process the plutonium waste to ficsonium fuel rods

[west jackal]

So, do you not use sam outside of ficsonium?

[normal orbit]

theres 10300 sam i think? and it would take 12000 or so to do it without sloops, but slooping brings it down to 6000 which is more than manageable

[west jackal]

how many sloops?

[normal orbit]

you need a little to make dark matter crystals

[tall lantern]

wouldn't be too many, constructors only need 1

[normal orbit]

I wanna say 14 converters making the ficsite, so 56, but i could be off

you can sloop constructors for less, but then the amount of aluminium or caterium becomes... yes

[west jackal]

so probably better to sloops the converters then

thats a lottt of sloops tho

[normal orbit]

theres 108 i think on the map

[west jackal]

still a lot

[normal orbit]

106*

[west jackal]

do you sloop the nucleaar manufactures?

[normal orbit]

god no