satisfactory

[tall lantern]

!wikisearch dedicated server

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=dedicated+server

[tall lantern]

PC-only, if relevant

[unreal swan]

yes pc

and I read that and didnt understand

anyone hosts an actual server here that can help?

[tall lantern]

there's a whole channel for that

[jagged nymph]

i used to hoset a dedicated server

[tall lantern]

#dedicated-servers

[jagged nymph]

#dedicated-servers ill explain there

[unreal swan]

ok thanks

[cunning glade]

Okay so drones only go a-b

Right

I can't make it go too a second stop if I'm understanding it

Only thing that makes sense then is too just make a bigger factory for the acu

[tall lantern]

can always just have multiple drones

[normal orbit]

you can have one drone go a-b and a second go b-c

[tall lantern]

or even a-c and b-c

[cunning glade]

Hold up let me see what else even needs supercomputers

Looks like neural quantum processesors

So yeah I should just make the factory make them

Which sucks cuz I have all the refineries down already

[jagged nymph]

or even a-c and d-c

[spare prism]

another day another slay lets get to building

[cunning glade]

But I don't wanna

That's a lie I do I'm just lazy and don't wanna have too fix my computer factory

[spare prism]

I gotta tear everything down rn to rebuild

[normal orbit]

the factory must grow

[cunning glade]

I simply need too add in the fact I need too make I think it's 5 acu a min

And combine that with some supercomputers and boom phase 4 part 1 done

Or something idk just need too figure out that part

[spare prism]

I don’t have any reinforcements plates being made so I need to get some iron nodes to make some

[tall lantern]

you ~never need to tear down a working factory. there's more than enough nodes out there

[cunning glade]

I'm also gonna need too do aluminum next

That's gonna be a pain in the ass cuz I'll prolly make a lot

[spare prism]

You should see the starting area it’s chaos rn

No foundation down it’s just places here and there

[tall lantern]

but does it work?

[cunning glade]

Theoretically I need at least 5k plus another 3k so atleast 8k a min

[tall lantern]

everyone's first stuff is spaghet

[cunning glade]

But then I don't have much too spare Incase of other stuff so I kinda feel like we just make 15k which is the most I can make

[jagged nymph]

northern forrest is honestly such a goated spawn

you have multiple pure nodes for all the basic materials

and some caterium, quartz, and a perfect coal generator area nearby

so you can get a zipline and blade runners quick

[spare prism]

are trees able to regrow bc i just deforsted the entire place lols

before i got coal up lol

[jagged nymph]

i was wondering aswell

[tall lantern]

nope

[jagged nymph]

but there are PLENTY of trees on the map to last you until coal lol

[spare prism]

yes ik but i kinda wanna keep the forest look

[tall lantern]

then don't cut them down

[spare prism]

[jagged nymph]

thats not the ficsit way !

[cunning glade]

Northern Forest is the best

Fricking love northern Forest

[jagged nymph]

it is indeed

[hard veldt]

How can I decide how much is being put out on each output on a splitter for example I'm giving it 120 p/m and I want one output to be 60 p/m and the other two 30 p/m

[spare prism]

im in grass area rn

[cunning glade]

Hate the grass area

Rocky or northern for me

[jagged nymph]

you cant specifcally choose, but in that case you could split the 120 line into 2 60 lines and then split one of those 60 lines into two 30 lines

[spare prism]

dont we get computer splitters mid game?

[hard veldt]

When I'm using a calculator to automate something it just says to make it that way is it not something that is available in the game?

[jagged nymph]

yeah, those just let you ||choose what item comes out each side, or make one side an overflow. not choose specific numbers||

[jagged nymph]

huh?

[spare prism]

ohhh

[jagged nymph]

although 99.9 percent of the time you just use it as ||an overflow||

[hard veldt]

I'm using a site that calculates a factory for me and when it comes down to the splitters it says to make it so X amount goes for output A and Y amount goes out of output B

[jagged nymph]

yeah youre supposed to figure out how to set up splitters/mergers to have that result

[tall lantern]

for nice ratios like you can build a relatively simple splitting setup to get the exact numbers you want, but usually people go for one of two other options

1. don't mix them on one belt in the first place, have machines make the amounts you need separately. so one group'd make 60, one make 30, another 30
2. "manifold", rely on the fact that belt networks will eventually balance themselves out if given enough time (assuming sufficient input and belt speed)

[normal orbit]

you can also just leave it and it'll balance out with time, like having two manifolds of 90 and 30 each, inputting 120. splitting it two ways will send 60 in both, but the 30 one will fill up first and once full it will naturally do 90/30.

[tall lantern]

obviously "(assuming sufficient input and belt speed)" is a requirement for any production line, but you'd be surprised how often people forget that

[jagged nymph]

yeep

[cunning glade]

I fricking don't wanna work on this project now but I wanna progress

Frick why didn't I do 60 hmf

I really should start rounding up my numbers too belt max speeds cuz it looks better

[jagged nymph]

efficiency over looks

[tall lantern]

60 hmf is a massive amount for a standalone factory

[cunning glade]

It's my fear of running out

[jagged nymph]

foro?

[jagged nymph]

whats hmf

[tall lantern]

if you run out, just make another

[jagged nymph]

hit man factories?

[tall lantern]

sure

[cunning glade]

Cuz currently I make 50 a min I need 30 for pasta leaves me 20 left over which will hopefully be enough for whatever else needs them

[jagged nymph]

whats hmf 😭

[cunning glade]

Heavy modular frames

[jagged nymph]

ohh

[cunning glade]

Meh

Super cheap tbh

[jagged nymph]

then make is 1200

[cunning glade]

4k iron and only 281coal a min for 50hmf a min

[cunning glade]

See but that's like way overkill

[jagged nymph]

theres not even enough resources to do that lol

[cunning glade]

Sure there is

[jagged nymph]

the most you can make is 465/min

[cunning glade]

Only 92100 iron a min

43k limestone

[jagged nymph]

assuming satisfactorytools.com is correct, the maximum possible in 465

[cunning glade]

92178 water a min

[eager palm]

Did you enable all alts?

[cunning glade]

And then 1k oil

[jagged nymph]

no it just needs 10200 sam / minute and 92100 iron ore per minute for 465

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Sr5WgOlyqw39IxcqlajK

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=6GhYB81NQ81yoBpPIN6B

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

oh shit i didnt add all the alternates

[cunning glade]

Max amount is 3036.17

A min

[jagged nymph]

yeah i didnt realize i didnt have alternates enabled

[eager palm]

I’m seeing 3553.49 with all alts enabled

[cunning glade]

Didn't have converter and stuff on

[gleaming hearth]

quick question, should I skip Cast Screws and wait for Steel Screws?

[eager palm]

Yes.

[jagged nymph]

max im seeing is 3553.48

[cunning glade]

Both are peak

[jagged nymph]

it only uses 537 gigawatts!

[eager palm]

I’ll have a word with the manager Flips hair

[jagged nymph]

and only 12402 assemblers

[reef basin]

yeah, I wouldn't use cast

[jagged nymph]

and it uses every bit of the worlds bauxite, coal, copper, crude, iron, limestone, quartz, sam, sulfur, and 60 percent of the caterium

[eager palm]

Oh wait, I only use cast.

[cunning glade]

Why the hate on cast

It makes life easy

[reef basin]

it doesn't really save anything

[cunning glade]

Time

[jagged nymph]

dime

[reef basin]

not really

[eager palm]

Every time I set up a production line in tools and see Rods->Screws, I’m like HOLD UP

[cunning glade]

For a new player I think so

[eager palm]

saves a lot of space

[jagged nymph]

it saves a whole 2 reinforced plates on a constructor

[normal orbit]

cast screws just save one stop of not having to make rods

[jagged nymph]

lemme tell you, in satisfactory, space is not an issue

[reef basin]

that's the most resource efficient way to do it tho

[reef basin]

but you want to make rods to save resources

[cunning glade]

Yeah but it's more complicated so

[normal orbit]

i just go for no screws at all

[jagged nymph]

oh no one more whole contructor!!!

[eager palm]

Is it not the same screws per iron to just do cast?

[cunning glade]

Prolly not

[reef basin]

you use steel rod to save on resources

[eager palm]

Oh, I didn’t know about that trick. Never used steel rods before.

[tall lantern]

cast screws saves on space and power, the only tradeoff is the inability to use other rod types

which in the super early game is irrelevant, hence why people like them in P1

[jagged nymph]

𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚞𝚜𝚎 𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚎𝚕 𝚛𝚘𝚍 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚘𝚗 𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚘𝚞𝚛𝚌𝚎𝚜 🤖

[eager palm]

It is when I’m cramming things into a blueprint.

[tall lantern]

they do indeed fall off after that, but that doesn't make them useless

[cunning glade]

I infact do like them in early game

[tall lantern]

as we all know, alts are there to give options, so there's still times where you may want to make screws without steel or aluminium

and when that happens, cast screws ahoy

[reef basin]

well my reasoning is "why would I use a hard drive on something that I use for like two hours tops"

(but as I said above, it's my opinion)

[jagged nymph]

i am starving right now and i dont have food

[cunning glade]

Hard drives are easy too get

And u can get all of the alts so it doesn't matter

[reef basin]

sure, but I could just get a different recipe that I can use now

[eager palm]

Hard drive scarcity in 2026 💀

[tall lantern]

you're gonna unlock everything anyway, and you should take what you'd use right now, so if you would be able to make use of it, why not? 😛

[reef basin]

because I'd take stitched plates and I won't have to do screws that way

[cunning glade]

Normally cast is the first one I get like it what shows in the hard drive that or a reroll and it's there so me likes and then I queue the next hard drive and go out the screws too use

[eager palm]

Iron wire stitched plates are peak

[normal orbit]

stitched plates, steeled frames, steeled rotors, heavy encased frames. you can completly skip making screws

[crystal cedar]

Power?(Like a few MW but still)

[reef basin]

steel rotors
copper rotors

[reef basin]

stitched plates save same power and space, but also save resources 🙂

[jagged nymph]

concrete motors

[crystal cedar]

Ah

[normal orbit]

i prefer steeled since its pipe+wire, same as stators, you can just sum em up and make motors

[reef basin]

but it's very expensive

[normal orbit]

not really

[jagged nymph]

or you can turn your caterium into rotors with the coal

[crystal cedar]

Kinda forgot I'm talking to the satis tools guy

[reef basin]

yes, it costs more resources than normal rotor with steel screws, which costs more resources than copper rotor

[normal orbit]

my point was to remove screws from the factory fully. adding another recipe which uses them would be kinda the opposite of that

[jagged nymph]

whats wrong with screws?

why do people always say they want to get rid of screws

theyre just like any other item

[normal orbit]

cause when you need em (early on) you often dont have the belt capacity to fully use them, and you end up with one belt of screws per machine and its just annoying to deal with them

[jagged nymph]

ig but thats not for very long

[toxic lichen]

i eat my screws

[normal orbit]

you also dont need screws for any construction, so you dont really need to produce them for that either. the only thing is awesome shop and you can just manually upload some screws you find at crash site and have enough for that.

[reef basin]

there's not really a reason to do that (ofc "I want to" is a valid reason, but I'm not talking about that)

[ornate saffron]

The problems ppl have with screws is self inflicted. Ppl get it in there head they make 10000 screws then move them were needed and that causes issues

I make the screws where they are needed and direct feed them into the machine that uses them

[jagged nymph]

ig

[reef basin]

some keep repeating the U2 mantras from 2019
some repeat things that youtubers or other people say without knowing why they say it
some merge screws onto one belt and then complain it doesn't fit on the belt (then it's their fault, not the screws' fault)

basically no real reason

[lucid copper]

i have a thing that makes iron ingots into screws so there pretty easy for me

[ornate saffron]

Thats a favor of many ppl.

[reef basin]

yeah that's not a very good recipe imo

[spare prism]

why do my miner and splitter not line up? they like a cm apart

[lucid copper]

i got it very elary

[jagged nymph]

is this "thing" perhaps.. a constructor?

[lucid copper]

i cant spell

[normal orbit]

also in removing screws, you're also indirectly removing iron rods too. But you do need a few rods made for construction

[lucid copper]

idk

[reef basin]

I mean on paper in vacuum it looks good, but in the big picture it's below average

[lucid copper]

i got it from a hard drive

[reef basin]

I do no tunderstand the need to "remove" thing

[hard ivy]

the recipes that use them are all meh at best and complete doghsit at worst
the only half decent one is copper rotor

[normal orbit]

fewer items to bother building

[reef basin]

I mean... that hardly affects anything, as usually you have same or even bigger number of steps to make anyway

[toxic lichen]

how much turbo fuel/min does a fuel gen at 100% consume?

[normal orbit]

7.5

[reef basin]

build it and see

it will tell you

[toxic lichen]

i cant play rn
wanted to know beforehand ;-;

[reef basin]

wiki is a thing 🙂

[toxic lichen]

i like talking to people ;-;

[hard ivy]

and people generally don't like answering questions that are easily answered by the wiki

[toxic lichen]

forgive me for my sins holy

[ornate saffron]

We are happy to talk without being milked for information

[hybrid nymph]

Just ripped out my rotor factory to move it and make it look good

[jagged nymph]

when you have a question like that, first try google/the wiki. If you cant find it ask here

[ornate saffron]

@amber moss grats. I hope your coal journey went well

[hybrid nymph]

Once I finish tier 8 I am going to make a copy of my game and continue it with mods

[tall lantern]

why not finish T9 first

[ornate saffron]

Have you completed the game before?

[tall lantern]

or, use the mods now

t8 seems an arbitrary point to decide "i cba to do this properly"

[hybrid nymph]

This is my 6th playthrough, but I never made it past tier 8 before

I always stopped after I got nuclear

[ornate saffron]

Nuclear is optional.

[hybrid nymph]

I realize that 4 overclocked fuel generators do the same thing

[jagged nymph]

ive always just done fuel, but on this playthrough im gonna try nuclear

[hybrid nymph]

I have only used a nuclear reactor twice

But I've never actually processed the waste before

[jagged nymph]

i think im gonna lift it up into space and dump it into the sky

have like 500 containers up there

[hybrid nymph]

Plutonium waste is not that big of a deal

Or you can just awesome sink the plutonium fuel rods for a waste free nuclear setuo

There are mods that make it so the reactors produce no waste

[jagged nymph]

thats just cheating tho

i mean its a singleplayer game so you do you ig

but you may as well just add a mod where nothing costs power, it breaks the whole balancing'

[normal orbit]

thats an ags setting :p

[tall lantern]

it's easy enough to just build enough storage to make the waste no longer a concern

think I built around 7500 hours worth of storage for mine

[jagged nymph]

so you want to duplicate ingots? thats not possible

[tall lantern]

add 5 more

[spare prism]

sorry brain hit enter before done lol

[jagged nymph]

your edit makes even less sense 😭

[spare prism]

restart

I have 25 ingots being made the constructor is either 16.7 = 25.05 or oh wait i did 83.3% that will do 24.99 ingots will that back up at all or no

[jagged nymph]

on the constructor you can click the number at the bottom where it says how many it will produce and change that instead of the percentage

[hybrid nymph]

I just am using basic mods

[jagged nymph]

so it can be exactly 25

[normal orbit]

ingots are made in a smelter typically. 30 ore = 30 ingots

[spare prism]

the oly goes to how much is being made i have 25 ingots coming in not 30 so i have to adjust

[jagged nymph]

huh? you have 25 coming in and youre making what recipe

[spare prism]

plates i but a mark 1 miner at 250% making 75 ore, 3 smelters at 25 per smelt. then i have 3 constructers

[jagged nymph]

set the contructor to 83.33 percent

or you can just leave it at 100 percent

[spare prism]

thats 24.999

lol

[normal orbit]

use more decimals

83.33333333%

[jagged nymph]

then just leave it at 100 percent then

[spare prism]

oh guys

[jagged nymph]

?

[spare prism]

83.333% = 25

[jagged nymph]

no 83.333% = 0.83333

[spare prism]

bruh

im saying it does 25 ingots

[jagged nymph]

so you should say 83.333% * 30 = 24.999

ackshually

[spare prism]

no 24.999 was 83.33

[jagged nymph]

well the game is rounding

as you add more 3s it will just add more 9s

it will approach 25 as you add more 3s but you cant actually type an infinite amount of 3s

[spare prism]

bruh this to early for me

[reef basin]

you can only type 4

[jagged nymph]

last time i checked 4 is in fact finite

[reef basin]

yeah just saying that you can't add more 3s than 4

[reef basin]

can only use 4

[hard ivy]

unless you type in 250/3

then you might get more than 4

[reef basin]

last I chatted with devs, it gets rounded to 4 decimals

[hard ivy]

well, in the save file, it seems to be saved with full float precision

but idk if it gets rounded before being used

[reef basin]

is it in save file or in scim?

[jagged nymph]

i dont see why it would

[hard ivy]

in scim, but there's a difference between a machine with 83.3333% and 250/3 typed in

both of these show up in SCIM as their exact float representations

if 250/3 was rounded to 83.3333 before being saved, both would show up as 83.3333 in SCIM. but they don't

[reef basin]

computers suck at decimals tho

it wouldn't show 83.3333, but as 83.3333[semi-random digits]

unless SCIM is doing rounding

[hard ivy]

🤦‍♂️
I am saying 83.3333% shows up as the exact float representation of 0.833333

and 250/3 shows up as the exact float representation of 0.8(3)

if 250/3 was rounded before being saved, it would show the same as 83.3333, but it doesn't

actually, typing in a bunch of 3s makes it the same as typing in 250/3

same with typing in the target production rate

though it's all irrelevant if it gets rounded before being used in any calculations

[unkempt blade]

it just tells us who actually takes pride in their craft and who's a pioneer you can't trust to do good work

I won't actually tell you which one but I think we all know who is who

[fickle cypress]

Is this game cross play

[dense violet]

for consoles, yes

[fickle cypress]

🫩

[reef basin]

for PC as well

just not between PC and console

[quasi warren]

^

[sterile blade]

Huh... So effectively the game has higher precision in saving than calulating

[floral bronze]

Does making aluminum products cost a lot of power?

on average.

[reef basin]

that's super generic question lol

"does doing things cost money"

[floral bronze]

let me rephrase

[reef basin]

machines use power, the more machines you build, the more power you use. Without specific numbers we can't really tell you how much power will it use 😄

[floral bronze]

yeah im not gonna rephrase.

[spare prism]

how do i foind power slugs

[tall lantern]

go explore, and look into the object scanner

[spare prism]

Yea I researched them but they not popping up on the scanner

omg wait no i didnt yet lol

[tall lantern]

the object scanner (not to be confused with the ore scanning button) is like a hot-or-cold ping, closer you get to a slug the faster it'll beep. provided it's set to look for slugs

[spare prism]

i did the yellow one and the other thing but i never did the blue one

[unkempt blade]

the object scanner also has the added benefit of slowly driving you insane if you don't know where caves are

[ornate saffron]

I see them better at night.

With global illumination on you can see much while building anyways so I hubt for slugs

[spare prism]

yea your right i just found a power slug inside a cave im right on top of it so when i walk anywhere it disappers but i cant dig down this aint minecraft 🤣

[unkempt blade]

yeah you can kind of guess that there's a cave if you circle a spot it's beeping at but it's still rough if you don't know where entrances are

the ore scanner is at least mostly surface level

[ornate saffron]

the pink forest in the middle is the worst for that

@swift turret i have done this pain lol

[swift turret]

not pain

pretty easy compared to other factories

[spare prism]

whats better reinforced or bolted iron plates

[swift turret]

stitched iron

[ornate saffron]

which ever you like for your situation.

[unkempt blade]

bolted is better

[ornate saffron]

its frustrating but the truth is preference and what you have available is the key factors

as you can see from above you can only get our prefences in a vacuum

[tall lantern]

don't ask what's better, ask what the tradeoffs are.
... or do the comparison yourself

[spare prism]

i have like 250 nails being made but my belt is only 120

[tall lantern]

use more belts

[spare prism]

no thats complicates thing i just need to upgrade

[tall lantern]

the main lesson of screws

[ornate saffron]

its not hard. just monotonous

[tall lantern]

is not to try and jam everything onto one belt

unfortunately a lot of people don't seem to grasp that, hence the whole "screws are bad and I'm cutting them out ASAP"

[ornate saffron]

always feed screws directly intoi the machines trying to use them. making maniolds of high throughput items is always going to be a pain point

[spare prism]

yea i got the basics done im setting up assemblys now

[unkempt blade]

the main lesson of screws is to always choose the screw recipe when available

I'm glad you agree that cast screws is the best and most important recipe

[quasi warren]

Satisfactory + traumatized me with screws. Hell no

[unkempt blade]

I didn't know it was canonically the best recipe too but I always assumed it was

[unkempt blade]

do you need help with using screws better? 🙂

[quasi warren]

everything needed screws. I am not dealing with that in a non satisfactory + playthrough-

[quasi warren]

It keeps the same ratio. 30 ingots to 120 screws. 1 to 4

Overclock it to 240%

And it takes 30 ingots for 120 screws

[stoic nebula]

what are yalls top 5 emojis??? mine are these
🧂
🥀
😭
🏳️‍⚧️
🔥

[white dawn]

( #off-topic-general ?)

[quasi warren]

I like cast screws for early game. After..? I make sure to grab recipes that never use screws. Thats just my playstyle

[wet glacier]

how do u bind something to your hotbar?

[unkempt blade]

Those are the best ones! They have the highest screw content

[ornate saffron]

on pc hover over the thing you want to bind with your mouse and hit the associated button for example 2

with keys 1-0

[unkempt blade]

I use speech recognition and just yell what I want to build at the game like normal adults do

[spice osprey]

Can't you just put those other items on another hotbar?

[unkempt blade]

for actual MMOs I used to just use the back/forward buttons on a 5 button mouse like I would alt/ctrl + the left side of my keyboard for combos when I had lots of buttons

[spice osprey]

Speaking of controls, do you folks use C for crouch like its set to for default? That seems like an odd button for it to be on.

[tall lantern]

sure, no reason to change it

I find crouch isn't a particularly common thing to press, beyond early game slide-jumping

[spice osprey]

Slide jumping, and sliding under ground level belts

[tall lantern]

yeah, neither of those are something I do much of beyond the early

[spice osprey]

Fair. I'm sure that jetpacks make it unnecessary

[frank lynx]

Once I learned how to crouch slide, I don't think I ever stopped doing it

Is everyone in agreeance that the new gamemode will most likely be randomized nodes? I took a break from Satisfactory but wanted to start over, but now that I found out about 1.2 I'm debating waiting for that to come out before playing again. Can't make up my mind.

[versed mesa]

1.2 will come to experimental next month

[faint idol]

is the interative map from satisfactory calculator btw avaibale?

or out of data

[tall lantern]

still available

not like much has changed in the past year and a half map-wise

[faint idol]

y but i shows me oil nodes where non should be there

[frank lynx]

Yeah saw that they plan to announce specific date on 2/27, just wondering if there have been any other credible theories to the new gamemode. Don't want to start over just to start over again in a few weeks

[versed mesa]

Correct

[tall lantern]

make sure it's set to the right branch, and that you actually have the tech for the oil node in question

[frank lynx]

Without any added mechanics or teased major changes, I can't imagine a gamemode that isn't randomized nodes

[tall lantern]

(and that it's not just in a cave or something)

[tall lantern]

definitely the leading theory and Mikael did lean into it, so very likely I'd say

[versed mesa]

@frank lynx ill be returning when 1.2 drops

[frank lynx]

And if I remember correctly Mikael made sure to clarify the game will still be the same style game (ie, no major difference like Deep Rock Galactic going to a top down version)

[versed mesa]

Don't own it yet but its in my wishlist still

@frank lynx for 1 the update comes with New Ui

[frank lynx]

Ah I didn't know this. That will be interesting for sure

[versed mesa]

Yeah they needed to update to UE 5.6.2

They gotten hella money lately specially since it released on consoles

[unkempt blade]

unlike say Star Citizen who only has the money

[versed mesa]

Still hopefully more to buy the game

[ornate saffron]

ctrl is a hold over from quake. no mouse, numpad arrow keys where default right ctrl was crouch.

ya, thats what i mean by hold over.

it used to be the standard and some studios still use it.

i was there 30 years ago lol

i have yet to go full autism and get into Factorio

[acoustic bear]

I've played a few hours of factorio but it's not managed to hook me yet

[unkempt blade]

yeah it's hard to get invested in a game that doesn't even have screws as an item

[junior jolt]

advanced steel production before basic steel production 🙂

[ornate saffron]

i havent played it but from what i gather its just spreadsheets with A gui

[unkempt blade]

just like all the best games!

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

Hello dead chat

[west jackal]

oh i know, but im trying hard to make it pretty and its my first big build of the world, so i dont have the dim depots setup for all the resources, and i dont have much inventory room or vehicles to hold the stuff. its close ish to my hub, but still have to travel far to collect resources

[clear aspen]

How do people have the energy to build mega factories? I’ve only build relatively small stuff

Like where do yall find the motivation

[west jackal]

what do you consider mega

[unkempt blade]

I listen to "Eye of the Tiger" on a loop the entire time

[ornate saffron]

i find insperation in architexture and design.

Mind you i dont build mega factories. but my phase 3 factory is already pretty large and ive only done ore refining so far

[clear aspen]

Like 15 assemblers for motors and stuff like that

[west jackal]

15 total or 15 for the motors themself

[ornate saffron]

listen to Tiny tina's (borderlands 2) Training montage on repeat

[west jackal]

that is such a vibe lol

[clear aspen]

Like a lot of machines and stuff like that

[unkempt blade]

I don't know that one but if it gets you pumped for extensive conveyor construction it must be pretty good

[west jackal]

i mean i just built a small factory with 15 assembler 53 constructor 7 foundry and 5 smelter

[ornate saffron]

well, My Stator, Rotor and motor factory makes 10/min of each going to cloud storage. After the smelting floor the rest was just one blueprint slightly modified three times to make all of the actual parts

[clear aspen]

It’s hard to explain what I mean

[west jackal]

the only issue is i did it at 4am (6 hours ago) and ive already forgot why i made certain decisions

[ornate saffron]

i find planning over comes being overwhelmed

[spice osprey]

As someone that's played about 20 hours of both, I definitely enjoy Satisfactory WAY more, but Factorio does have some unique features that keep the game dynamic. The two biggest differences (other than the UI/Perspective) is that Factorio's resource nodes can run out, and Factorio has a pollution mechanic, and the more pollution your factory produces, the more that the monsters attack you. So there definitely are elements that make it more than just inputs -> outputs

[west jackal]

to be fair i get overwhelmed trying to make things like pretty lol

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[old sequoia]

random question, have the devs ever acknowledged anything related to hypertube launching? Is it an intended feature? Have they ever mentioned anything about removing it?

[ornate saffron]

I believe its a bug turned feature

[unkempt blade]

Are you sure you have enough sinks? I think a few more could really class the place up

[bitter crow]

should i try to automate EVERYTHING? even like gas mask filters and such

[west jackal]

i think i messed up belt limits because i havent started on oil production and i was trying to skirt belt limits with some smart splitters/priority mergers

[old sequoia]

yeah that's what I figured, wasn't sure if they ever mentioned maybe getting rid of it since it technically circumvents things

[ornate saffron]

the sight of all them belts working hard was inspiring

[west jackal]

low scale production of masks, would be my opinion

[normal orbit]

Hypertube stopped working when they shifted to ue5 in update 8. They put the functionality back in.

[bitter crow]

very well, thanks

[ornate saffron]

i feel like filters are unessacry to automate.

Iodine filters on the other hand is required if you go nuclear

[unkempt blade]

Depends how much you're using the consumables like mask filters. If you only need them irregularly you can just handcraft a couple stacks while refilling your coffee or whatever

[bitter crow]

and thats the hazmat suit one?

[ornate saffron]

you need the hazmat suit and the gas mask. then you need to make iodine filters for them to work

[bitter crow]

oh i see

im in phase two now and im lowkey nervous for trains

havent used them before

[ornate saffron]

to be clear nuclear is optional.... Actually all sulfer use is optional

[west jackal]

arent gask masks used to make iodine filters?

[ornate saffron]

yes sir

[acoustic bear]

you use the filters not the masks themselves I thought

[west jackal]

thats why i said that low scale production of them would be a good idea

[bitter crow]

why would someone not choose nuclear?

[ornate saffron]

but if you are not going nuclear they arent really needed. you can just blow up gas spewers

[west jackal]

complexity

[ornate saffron]

Nitro rocket fuel is easy. Just Consumes lots of space

[acoustic bear]

you can construct a large fuel complex that will power you into the ending credits

[ornate saffron]

for example #screenshots message

[acoustic bear]

so skipping nuclear is very possible if you invest into processing oil more

[bitter crow]

oh wow

[acoustic bear]

you can break one pure node of oil down into a huge amount of power

[unkempt blade]

you wear the mask and it consumes filters when you're in a spot with the poison clouds (or radiation for the hazmat + iodine filters)

[bitter crow]

it looks really simple to distribute

[bitter crow]

i might do both when i get there

[ornate saffron]

i think the loweest energy use i had while completing the game was around 100gw. very doable with diluted fuel alone

[bitter crow]

ill just fix encased industrial beams and some dimensional depots and then im set

[acoustic bear]

I've heard several people quote having 100-150gw in the end game.

and that's super easy with diluted fuel

[bitter crow]

my coal factory in my last playthru made 10gw, it was hell

[ornate saffron]

A 200gw nitro rocket fuel factory is two blueprints. One for making the fuel one for the generators

[unkempt blade]

that's more than I usually wind up using on phase 2 stuff but wouldn't be a crazy number if I were scaling more and exploring less while stuff ran

[acoustic bear]

coal is more of a tutorial than anything IMO

[bitter crow]

is the making of the fuel complicated?

[acoustic bear]

various petroleums can be pretty complex with the fluid physics at scale but not too bad

[unkempt blade]

Rocket fuel is pretty easy. Much simpler than nuclear

[acoustic bear]

all much easier than nuclear

[spare prism]

next challenge do 50gw

[glacial drum]

The most complicated part is bringing the damn materials there.

[bitter crow]

and is nitro rocket fuel an alternative blueprint?

[glacial drum]

Alt recipe yes

It removes the need for turbo fuel production beforehand

[bitter crow]

oh the horror

[bitter crow]

ah i see

[glacial drum]

In turn however it has a byproduct of compact coal

which you can turn into turbo fuel for more power! Or sink it..

Actually it makes compact either way.

Also the nitro recipe removes the need for nitric acid in turn for just nitrogen gas

[floral bronze]

is it possible to connect a junction directly into a fluid buffler?

[bitter crow]

this whole fluid system is complicated

[glacial drum]

Yes the fluid system is a bitch to learn

[acoustic bear]

Use a pipe support to help place your junction then delete it

[bitter crow]

im looking at the wiki page and there is SO many fuels omg

[cloud crown]

How do I search for my first SAM node? Trying my best but I don't find anything nobelisks unlocked

[glacial drum]

Reminds me I need to check on my rocket fuel
plant and make sure it’s working

[acoustic bear]

It's almost 100% about keeping the pipes full all the time

[west jackal]

how do you guys handle bumpy terrain (like the dune desert) for transportation of materials? like i want to use trucks and soon trains, but they are gonna look like a kiddie roller coaster

[glacial drum]

Go caving or go some high places.

[bitter crow]

build elevatied

elevated

[acoustic bear]

The online interactive map on the calculator

[glacial drum]

Using elevated buildings. Plus auto connect helps

[acoustic bear]

Sam is all in a cave or on a high plateau

[glacial drum]

A tip - Ionized fuel isn’t exactly worth the power it takes to make it

[bitter crow]

yeah i see how nitro rocket is alot easier

[junior jolt]

okay why are there radioactive hogs

[glacial drum]

There’s a sam node in the grasslands near the bottom

To the right by a couple hundred meters of the pure coal node on the bottom left

[bitter crow]

sadism

[west jackal]

i cant ever get auto connect to work, can you explain it

[glacial drum]

It’s under some breakable rocks.

[unkempt blade]

nature finds a way

[acoustic bear]

You can use lifts and clip right through the ceiling of the cave

[glacial drum]

You need to have a conveyer/pipe out of the end of what you’re trying to connect to

So set up blueprints with a bit sticking out of the final junction/splitter/merger

[west jackal]

splitters /mergers dont work, eh?

[bitter crow]

im seeing alot of things that fuel can be used for in alt recipes, are they worth it?

[junior jolt]

ayy finally zipline

[versed cosmos]

a lot of them are just different ways to make the higher tier fuels

i think there's 4 total recipes for turbo fuel and 2 for rocket fuel

then a bunch of alt recipes for diamonds are oil based

[bitter crow]

i see

ill start building a fuel generator today and ask in here if i have any questions

[versed cosmos]

first time doing fuel power?

[bitter crow]

yup

[unkempt blade]

and as with all questions I'll tell you to use more factory carts and put more colors on stuff while building

[versed cosmos]

just use the base fuel recipe to get it up and running

[bitter crow]

LMAO

[versed cosmos]

eventually youre gonna want to do the heavy oil residue and diluted fuel alt recipes but those are big projects

i would even save diluted fuel until you get blenders. ive never liked the packaged diluted fuel pathway

[glacial drum]

The best tip I can give you that everyone seems to make a mistake on (atleast most ppl first time) Fill all your generator pipes and the gens themselves fully before running at max power.

[versed cosmos]

you replace it later so i think its better to just wait for diluted fuel proper

[glacial drum]

Also if possible build your fuel systems above your generators so the liquid doesn’t have to go up.

Below or same lvl

[versed cosmos]

flat pipes are fine

if you want to raise them up pump the fuel all the way to the top first, then send it back down to connect to generators

and if you do want to stack generators blueprints are really, really good for that

[west jackal]

Anyone got ideas how to make this look nice? I need support under it, and i need a way to make the walls not just be flat. #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

pillars on the corners and then evenly spaced along the walls

[junior jolt]

is coal power sub 5h considered good

[versed cosmos]

yeah id say so

[floral bronze]

is it safe to assume that I will need a lot of aluminum

[versed cosmos]

yup

[floral bronze]

yikes

[versed cosmos]

swamp is a good place for aluminium

sloppy alumina + electrode scrap + pure ingots

[floral bronze]

I mean my current setup will be making 600 aluminum inguts per min

[versed cosmos]

that's good

mine just does double that

[floral bronze]

you have miner mk3 im guessing?

[versed cosmos]

yeah

had to buy some parts from the awesome shop for the milestone to get it

but i knew i wanted to do 1200 and didnt want to have to modify it to handle less than that temporarily

[floral bronze]

if you were on my world like 10 minutes ago

you could have saved me.

[west jackal]

dooes jetpack work with solid biofuel

[versed cosmos]

yes but its really, really bad

packaged liquid biofuel is the way to go

[west jackal]

i dont have packager yet

[versed cosmos]

get it

[west jackal]

havent started oil stuffs

[versed cosmos]

get oil then

[floral bronze]

would it be a better investment for me to carry on with the build or to reset and get double output

[west jackal]

well sure. but im taking my time

[unkempt blade]

this is really helpful advice

[west jackal]

ive rushed many playthroughs i want this one to be better

im trying to make factories look nicer and work better

[versed cosmos]

well how much have you built already

[patent hamlet]

Can I've some help with pipes, please? I just can't understand what I'm doing wrong

[west jackal]

whats going on

[floral bronze]

I was just about to start making the aluminum scraps go into foundries

[versed cosmos]

its up to you at that point

[balmy schooner]

Was there a new update for the ps5 today?

[versed cosmos]

are you stopping at ingots or processing them further into casings and sheets?

[floral bronze]

I will need casings and sheets too im guessing

I have like just about unlocked aluminum tier

[versed cosmos]

some here will tell you its better to ship ingots around to where theyre needed and process to casings and sheets on-site

and i can see the logic

you probably dont know exactly what youre gonna build with aluminium and how much

keeping it as ingots gives you more flexibility

[floral bronze]

alright

with that in mind should I boost the production?

[versed cosmos]

uhhh id say yes

[patent hamlet]

I've 2 symmetric pipelines doing exactly the same. One is working 100%, the other is just...dead at the half way

[versed cosmos]

although youre not doing pure ingots?

[floral bronze]

nope, original recipe

[versed cosmos]

quartz could be an issue

it is also just so much less of a headache to do pure ingots

just get quartz out completely

[patent hamlet]

But I just' dont understand what to do anymore. The fuel is flowing to a certain spot and then...just stops flowing

[floral bronze]

I dont have that much unlocked from hard drives I dont think at least

[patent hamlet]

And I've the pumps and everything

[floral bronze]

so it really is a huge time gamble

[versed cosmos]

go do a big hard drive hunt

[west jackal]

are pumps powered? where do they start from? Are they going up or level?

[versed cosmos]

fill your depot with packaged liquid biofuel and jetpack around the map

get the object scanner and just scan for hard drives

you should also have the radiation suit unlocked now

[floral bronze]

radiation suit is tier 8

[west jackal]

thats my plan once i get the packager, is plbf better than packaged fuel?

[floral bronze]

I think at least

[patent hamlet]

Yes, all of them powered, start from a blender, and they're going up, up, up

[versed cosmos]

i know i havent completed phase 4 and i have the radiation suit

you dont have to do the milestones in order

[west jackal]

how much up? it should show how far the headlift goes, are you sure there is enough headlift?

[versed cosmos]

you can do a tier 8 milestone before you do any tier 7 milestones

[floral bronze]

dont I need products from tier 7 to then get the radiation suit?

[patent hamlet]

I've 2 symmetric lines going the same height and circuit, and only one of them is not working

[versed cosmos]

i dont think you need many

maybe some aluminium products but youve got that already and you can find them around crash sites or buy from the shop

[west jackal]

the only thing if they truly are identical is to try replacing the pipes/pumps

can you send a picture

[west jackal]

how do you unlock scanning hard drives?

[versed cosmos]

the object scanner

check the workshop itll be in there

if you mean you already have a hard drive, you can scan them in the mam

[west jackal]

nono

is hard drive object scanner in quartz then?

[versed cosmos]

the object scanner should already be unlocked im pretty sure its just unlocked with milestones

!wikisearch object scanner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=object+scanner

[west jackal]

not the scanner! the ability to scan for hard drives

[versed cosmos]

oh yeah that's in the mam

[west jackal]

ive got sloops spheres slugs and nuts

[versed cosmos]

to scan for hard drives specifically is in the quartz tree

i forget you have to unlock the ability to scan for specific things lol

[clever sandal]

do you guys know that do train stations keep some materials (that if one train unloads plastic then another can pick it up while having another conveyor leads some stuff out)

[versed cosmos]

youre gonna have to explain that better chief

[tall lantern]

stations can either be configured to load or unload, not both

[toxic lichen]

im a bit lost

just have 2 stations
ez pz

[ornate saffron]

not at all

[bitter crow]

if you dont mind explaining, whats the process?

[ornate saffron]

can i dm you?

[bitter crow]

yeah sure!

[glacial drum]

Which fuel?

Meh beefy has it covered they’re the smarter one

Ok I send those msgs like 30 seconds ago my data died out for a min

@ornate saffron So you say I should use mk 2 pipes even if i’m only pumping/using 300 liquids? Just fill them fully beforehand yes?

[ornate saffron]

thats what i do

i only use mk2 pipes once unlocked

[glacial drum]

Do we have an explanation why pushing to max flow rate is bad?

[clever sandal]

question is that do items still go out (onto the conveyor belt) when train 1 brings and train 2 takes or do they keep some

for train 2

[west jackal]

you know, no one mentions how expensive circular factories are on concrete/plates

most foundations are doubled

[carmine ginkgo]

Hello y'all, quick question. I'm planning my first big project. A mega fuel generator plant running in turbo fuel. I unlocked MK2 pipes and j calculated that with the 600m3 I can fuel 80 generators. My question, can I safely supply the 80 gens with the 600 or should I make a few gens less so I have more supply then consumption?

[tall lantern]

why not just use 2 pipes

[versed cosmos]

make as many generators as you can support. use all of your fuel

[tall lantern]

while you can reach the full 600/min it's simpler to just not, but there's no need to limit youself to the throughput of a single pipe

[versed cosmos]

also skip turbofuel and go straight to rocket fuel with the nitro rocket fuel alt

[spare prism]

I like to use the pipe to the full potential

[granite olive]

Naw screw skipping it. Just use it until.you.get nitro

Then decommission the setup for the tf

Turbo fuel is a crazy leap past regular fuel

[west jackal]

this sam cave is gorgeoussssss

scary spiders though

[shrewd palm]

Can you? Theoretically
Safely? Split it into 2 300/min pipes

[shrewd palm]

I think something about the math they use starts to break down around the full 600/min

So unless you build perfectly you’ll have a lot of problems trying to get to 600/min

[tall lantern]

good for you, but you're not the one who asked the question

[versed cosmos]

the problem with getting full throughput is any drop in throughput cant be made up for later by going above the full throughput

that happens a few times and a machine turns off

pipes only really get their full throughput when theyre connected directly to a producer

[tall lantern]

it is doable, just, why give yourself the headache?

[unkempt blade]

I'm just excited for 1.2 to make liquid stuff even more perfect than it already is. Maybe people will finally stop complaining about pipes then

[unborn nova]

is fuel better than nuclear? i feel like it just makes so much less power for the amount of work

[tall lantern]

and by "even more perfect" you mean you can put it in trucks, woooo

[tall lantern]

depends who you ask and what tier of fuel you're talking about

[unborn nova]

like for endgame

[unkempt blade]

true greatness has finally been achieved in what was already a really awesome and mechanically sound system

[unborn nova]

so rocket or ionized i guess

[tall lantern]

rocket fuel and nuclear are somewhat comparable

[unborn nova]

can you even burn ionized? idek

[tall lantern]

you can but the energy cost to make it often isn't worth it

[unborn nova]

gotcha

[unkempt blade]

the main difference is rocket fuel is for people who like to play on easy mode

[unborn nova]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

from what i can gather it has to do with machine timing set to the games tic rate

this is best explained while watching other maching spit out parts. Sometimes it'll spit out a extra to make up for a timing. this happens with fluids too. so sometimes itll spit out more then a 600 max flow rate can handle.

watching a pipe only gives you a estamite over a period of time not exact numbers.

keep in mind im no expert this is just what i have experienced

[reef basin]

"better" how?

[unkempt blade]

I'm working on my thesis seeing if the screw-avoiders and the rocket-fuel-enjoyers are the same population

[unborn nova]

like if its easier to scale up, more reliable, and the amount of power it makes for how big the setup is

[clear aspen]

Yo yo what’s up

[reef basin]

that practically depends on recipe choices and such

[clear aspen]

How’s yalls day?

[west jackal]

is it still really an issue to max flow rate

[unkempt blade]

nuclear is a better project because it allows you to use more screws

[clear aspen]

Do yall have any good anime’s to watch while playing satisfying?

[ornate saffron]

A good topic for #off-topic-general

[clear aspen]

Your right

[unkempt blade]

sorry I only like media with factory carts in it

[spare prism]

great im on steel now 🙁

[heavy spear]

is there a way to give suggestion in the ame?

[spare prism]

I have to find iron and coal

[unkempt blade]

why is this frowny?

[heavy spear]

can i suggest something to get in the game?

[spare prism]

Bc I just got the iron factory done now I have to go do a whole NEW FACTORY

[unkempt blade]

if it's mk2 factory carts you're too late because I already suggested that

[heavy spear]

no i wanted planes

[fading whale]

Well... Yes ?! 😃

[spare prism]

Oh and my power is almost all used up so I have to make a new coal generator

[unkempt blade]

That's kind of the core gameplay loop. You should get out now if that makes you sad 🤣

[fading whale]

Fuel gens is the future. Get on that as soon as you have a stable steel setup.

[spare prism]

No I already have it but I only got 600mw

[heavy spear]

nuclears are the best

[heavy spear]

well put multiple down

[spare prism]

After I built my iron factory it’s taking like 400-600mw

[ornate saffron]

after that..... ther will be another factory ^-^ thats the joy. Its a factory building game ^-^

[heavy spear]

more generators more oil extractor more refinery a lot more of everything

[ornate saffron]

^^this is the way^^

[fading whale]

A single fuel generator makes 250MW. Find an oil pit near water you can dedicate to fuel. Then max out the fuel you can generate from that, and build fuel gens accordingly.

[spare prism]

I don’t have that yet

[ornate saffron]

soon

[fading whale]

You just said you already had it (fuel gens I assumed). So the suggestion is to go bigger. 🙂
It's not super complicated to get started with base recipes. And not much more work with alts.
Then you will have GWs in no time.

[spare prism]

No coal generators

[acoustic bear]

diluted fuel + turbofuel in the lower right hand crater is really OP

[ornate saffron]

nitro rocket fuel there is great too

[acoustic bear]

you have sulphur and coal in abundance to make serious GW

[west jackal]

@normal orbit how did you make the glass pane windows

[fading whale]

Well that's why I was suggesting fuel gens. As soon as you have steel up and running, fuel gens should be your focus.

[spare prism]

Yea

[tall lantern]

lol that's two whole tiers away

give them a chance

[normal orbit]

just made the shape with pillars then filled it in

[fading whale]

Those are normal windows (the ones with no frame) and then decorated with beams.

[spare prism]

[carmine ginkgo]

But my question still remains. If demand and supply are the same. Does it run good or does supply need to be more?

[west jackal]

okay i need more tickets then 🙂

[acoustic bear]

just setup a serious compacted coal setup that can max a mk6 conveyor output

[west jackal]

thank you for the suggestions sapphic! im going to try and make it look nice. just not sure how to suport under the factory since its in dune deserty

[unborn nova]

am i sleeping on reanimated sam turning into any ore

[tall lantern]

input=output is fine as long as your routing can handle it. But as noted, max-flow pipes can be a pain

[unborn nova]

i think im gonna try to use it to make stuff for golden nut

[clever sandal]

why doesn't my to do list show up when it should

[tall lantern]

uranium, if anything

usually easier to just bring in the actual ore you need though, it's just uranium's in relatively short supply

[unborn nova]

gotcha

for points should i go for something like the phase 5 parts or something like highspeed connectors

actually ill do the math on it later

ill figure iut whats better for my situation

[tall lantern]

all of the above

sink anything spare, and if you want to actively target points, some of the later stuff is good yes

[acoustic bear]

early game sink a uranium node directly

it's worth big points just for the ore

and can get you some serious early game points

[fiery pewter]

#math-and-meta message person with more common sense than me needed :3

[spare prism]

anyone run this game on a 4k monitor?

[spark ruin]

why ask ?

[spare prism]

I was thinking about getting one

[spark ruin]

oh

what GPU do you have ?

[spare prism]

RTX A4500

[ornate saffron]

I have a 6900xt. Seems fine on my 4k monitor. I play locked 60fps mind you

[torn lynx]

hey, anyone know a good way to connect blueprint to blue proints, its very finicky

[floral bronze]

locking at 60 is criminal

[spark ruin]

should be fine

[spare prism]

I’m doing 1080p rn ultra settings hovering 65FPS it says in game

[ornate saffron]

Or its a chill factory game. And I dont need huge frame rates

[zenith pecan]

Looking at my plan, the 4800 steel ingots from the blue crater isn't enough 🤣

[floral bronze]

yeah but 60fps is like visually displeasing

[spark ruin]

some like it
and i'd probably rather have quality upscaling locked to 60 than performance upscaling at 80 or somethin
and i can aways use FG if i want more

[spare prism]

When do I unlock lights in game my factory is dark bc I put a roof over it

[ornate saffron]

It really isn't.

If you need more go for it. I have 20/15 vision and I think it looks great

[ornate saffron]

In the awesome shop

[spare prism]

Yea but it’s selling me to unlock in The mam

[spark ruin]

should be fine, though you'll have to do a bunch of upscaling to get similar fps then

[spare prism]

I just did hardware test in settings it put my upscale to balance now I’m getting like 100fps lol

[spark ruin]

+maybe use optiscaler to get FSR/Xe-FG with DLSS
cuz the devs still dont have FSR FG decoupled (grrr 😡)

[spare prism]

Schematic unavailable
Unlock by researching
Quickwire - man
Basic steel production- tier 3

So I have to be stuck in the dark

[spice osprey]

Once you research Quickwire in the MAM then you can purchase the recipe for lights in the AWESOME Shop, but crafting lights requires steel

[spare prism]

God damn it I'm scared of the dark

[spark ruin]

well you are rendering 44% fewer pixels

[spice osprey]

that's kinda on you for building a roof before your factory was ready for it

[normal orbit]

You can use signs as a light source too

[spark ruin]

assuming you were at max rez scale before

[spark ruin]

wonky in the vanilla game though sadly
needs lumen (aka GI in settings)

[spare prism]

Noo

[spare prism]

Well I didn't put walls in so sunlight gets in but night time is dark lol

The machine has lights but there not very bright

[torn lynx]

ok, blueprint place is bull crap, im trying to connect my blueprints with catwalsk but they never line up

ok, thats it, im sjut gonna use the tubes

[spark ruin]

rez scale applies to both axis of rendering, so by setting "balanced" (75% rez scale) you go from 2 million~ pixels to 1.16 mil~

[spare prism]

Bruh there's a bolder on my coal mine

[spice osprey]

Make sure you're placing things on the world grid

[spare prism]

I found a new coal area and there's a rock in top of it

[spark ruin]

anyway i think you'd have a better balance with a 1440p monitor

[ornate saffron]

Youll need boom. Research sulfur in the mam

[jovial lance]

im unlocking phase 2 today for the first time!!!

[spare prism]

Good luck

[ornate saffron]

That seems to be the sweet spot

[ornate saffron]

Power go brrrrr

[jovial lance]

you know shits bad when they say good luck instead of congratulations 😭

[spare prism]

I’m on phase 2 and now I need whole new crap

[jovial lance]

getting to phase 2 was bad enough

[ornate saffron]

Naw you got this. Put what you have learned to use and you'll learn some new stuff ^-^

[spare prism]

I gotta go to work so I gotta stop playing it but once I get home I’m gunna have to make a new coal plant for my extra power

[jovial lance]

yeahh :D its just tearing everything down when i just built it is gonna be a nightmare 😭

[spark ruin]

will be better for other games too in the future IMO if he doesnt ever have to resort to ultra perf upscaling
i think UP at 4K looks worse than perf mode at 1440p

[spare prism]

Don’t tear down just find new nodes

[jovial lance]

alr, how do i transport stuff tho?

[ornate saffron]

Just dont do that.

Lots of resources. The map is huge lots of resources. Use your first build to supply you with what you need for the next ^-^

[spare prism]

You get vehicles in tier 3

[jovial lance]

i never used those but i thought about it

[ornate saffron]

Do you need to? Just build more

Need more reinforced plates build more

In the mean time you have belts

[floral olive]

Anyone want to start a world I'm looking for people to play with on a multiplayer word in VC hopefully for a while 🙂

[jovial lance]

982/1000 items :D

[ornate saffron]

Try #1201555265942724758

[quasi warren]

^

[ornate saffron]

^-*

[jovial lance]

oh right this game has multiplayer

4 more versatile frameworks left!!!

DONEE :D

[ornate saffron]

Apperently. Im at least 1000 hours in and im still a hobbit

[jovial lance]

time for delivery

[jovial lance]

LMAO i just get anxious in multiplayer in ALL games with new people ive never talked to before

[ornate saffron]

More reason to get your friends and family addicted. Draw them in and sell them the Crack known as satisfactory

[quasi warren]

I gifted my friend satisfactory. A few weeks ago. Its his most played game

[floral olive]

Classic

[ornate saffron]

I'm the only person in my friend network that has the autism flavour to enjoy this. They have other flavours lol.

[quasi warren]

I play satisfactory with him, hes the only friend I have that loves these games XD

[ornate saffron]

Thats cool.

I play darksouls and rust with my friends because they hate themselves

[quasi warren]

honestly same. I really only do multiplayer with someone i dont know when I get extremely lonely in a game

Unless im playing the first watch_dogs game. Then multiplayer becomes so fun

The constant pausing i learned in that game followed me into satisfactory- even tho I dont need to do that

[jovial lance]

yee

[jovial lance]

satisfactory seems like it would be way more fun with friends, unfortunately those seem to be in short supply in the awesome shop 😔

[quasi warren]

PFFT

I just checked my gifted games, ones I gifted out, My most gifted game is satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

For me its terraria. I dont need to check. When it was new a five pack was cheap

[jovial lance]

fellow terrarian spotted in the wild

i just finished an infernum playthough last week

[ornate saffron]

Oh I haven't played in forever. I dont recognize the current endgame lol

[jovial lance]

damn 😔 modded community is wild nowadays

calamity has a new update

[gloomy tusk]

What is the most iron an alt recipe can make

is it the wet one?

[quasi warren]

Just did the math, total i spent on satisfactory with gifts, buying myself satisfactory, and buying the soundtrack, came out to around $124.55 without taxes

Holy... its worth it

[quasi warren]

I think that one uses sulfur... not sure

Either pure or leeched I think its called?

[normal orbit]

leached and basic are both 1:2

[quasi warren]

Then what is even the point of leached

[normal orbit]

pure is like 1:1.85 or something

[quasi warren]

Then what is better?? Leached or pure??

[normal orbit]

leached makes more ingots, but costs more with sulfuric acid

while pure is just water

[stray patio]

isnt like 1 waterpump = 3 coal generators?

[quasi warren]

3 to 8. 3 extractors to 8 generators

Thats the common ratio

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[stray patio]

i have 1 Pump for 6 Coal gens. Pump has 2 overdrives (i forgot the name)

[quasi warren]

So then... why use pure when basic exists???

[quasi warren]

I recommend the setups shown here

[normal orbit]

mainly cause water is more readily available than limestone, which you might wanna turn to concrete for other recipes

[quasi warren]

So... default shouldn't be used, and when you can, use pure?

[normal orbit]

basic aint default

[stray patio]

nvm added one more i have 7 Gens with 1 pump T-T but it works!

[quasi warren]

Remember, 8 coal gens takes 360 water a min. 3 water extractors create 360 water a min

1 extractor can, when normal speed, supply 2 and VERY partial of a 3rd generator

[stray patio]

well uh

theyre all full with water

[quasi warren]

2 extractors, overclocked to 150. Can supply 4 gens each

Just giving options :>

[stray patio]

i overclocked it 3 times

[quasi warren]

It only makes 300 water a min when overclocked to 250%

You have 7 coal gens right?

You are 15 water a min short of full efficiency

[stray patio]

no worrys i know what you mean i did 1 pump per 3 gens on my other world but im playing with my gf and im min the grass land and i have that one small lake next to coal at the edge of the map T-T im trying to maximise it

yeah im destroying one again to less water for it

[cunning glade]

Uhhh if ur at motors and making a big factory for it u should have dd?

Atleast before I setup a motor factory I had everything I needed building wise on dd

[sinful talon]

I scan a hard drive and got only one upgrade on it and it says Pioneer upgrade. What is that?

[normal orbit]

inventory slots prob

[sinful talon]

nope

[stray patio]

hp upgrade?

[sinful talon]

it says Pioneer upgrade

[normal orbit]

inventory slots is the only upgrade to the pioneer thru harddrives

[stray patio]

In Satisfactory, a "Pioneer Upgrade" obtained from Hard Drives (via the MAM) refers to expanding your personal inventory space by +6 slots, or unlocking special, often vital, alternative recipes. These upgrades are crucial for optimizing production, reducing reliance on screws, and increasing carry capacity for exploration.

google says this

[sinful talon]

theres only 2 of those in the game and still on phase 2 so the 2nd never came in yet

[sinful talon]

it would stat invo upgrade but this does not

I took a screenshot to show what I mean since I think it got a glitch in it.

but can't share pics in here

[normal orbit]

#screenshots

[reef basin]

why do you even ask google, if you can check on wiki

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533

[normal orbit]

that looks like you're running some mod which doesnt work properly

[sinful talon]

because I havent unlocked the 2nd invo upgrade on it nor does it have a pic for the invo and it has a weird glitch on it

[sinful talon]

no mods

[bitter crow]

oh my god encased industrial beams are gonna be a hell

[sinful talon]

ya won't even let me select that upgrade either

shoot hard drives glitched guess I got to reload a previos data....

[fickle locust]

They're so slow with the normal recipe

You can power up a lot with the alts that use concrete to make more beams or pipes

[bitter crow]

is 15/minute sufficient tho???

[bitter crow]

i have a surplus of steel so that sounds good

[fickle locust]

The advantage is that encased beams are only relevant for heavy modular frames. Mk 4 conveyers are kind of bad (my personal opinion) so you don't need very many of them at unlock

[ornate saffron]

It can be. Put a industrial buffer at the end and feed it into cloud storage and your personal supply should be met

[fickle locust]

Expanding on the conveyers, you can make so many beams for mk 3, and then mk 5 is aluminum so it's a totally different chain. Mk 4 isn't so much better than mk 3s, whereas the mk 5 is a huge jump

[bitter crow]

yeah im scared

like wdym itll be like 3 steps from ore to ingot

[normal orbit]

not much better? mk4 is almost twice as fast as mk3

[bitter crow]

i see

[normal orbit]

270/min to 480/min

[fickle locust]

Aluminum is hard but it's not too bad to set up a little bit. It's only the big factories that are hard

[bitter crow]

we are talking about production

[bitter crow]

i have a feeling i will have to rebuild alot

[fickle locust]

It's a result-effort thing. Making mk 3 belts is so easy, whereas mk 4s are so much effort (and so slow to produce) for what feels like a more limited benefit. Mk 4 doesn't unlock a whole new size of factory, IMO

As a result, it's easier to make factories as big as mk 3s can support, then wait to make significant increases for mk 5s. Mk 4 is only going to be used in specific small merged segments

[fickle locust]

My recommendation is to do an initial build just to get the belts and casings being put into storage, then set up for the big aluminum build (which, yes, will require a lot of rebuilding)

[bitter crow]

steel screws r lowkey fire???

[ornate saffron]

Only if you want to.

Remember the map is huge and is the same for everyone regardless of your starting area.

[bitter crow]

260 a minute

[bitter crow]

hmm yeah

[ornate saffron]

Try build to max height. There is a achievement for it.

It'll give you a idea of the space you have ^-^

[bitter crow]

max height omg

[ornate saffron]

I just used 4m ramps to get there

Zooped

[fiery pewter]

and a bunch of concrete I suppose

[bitter crow]

oh yeah

[ornate saffron]

You can deconstruct as you go. Then just use a parachute to get home

[fiery pewter]

fair 'nuff

[ornate saffron]

No one other then extreme sport enthusiasts and factory cart enjoyed wana see a sky ramp anyways

[fiery pewter]

true

[ornate saffron]

@unkempt blade I mean you

[fiery pewter]

I once yeeted my friend using a factory cart and 50 pulse nobelisks

[lavish inlet]

Could anyone help me with some train signals in #math-and-meta ?

[stuck osprey]

am i gonna need the first project part after i complete phase 1?

[acoustic bear]

you can just ride the freighter when you dispatch it for a milestone

[quasi warren]

yes

[stuck osprey]

aww man

[acoustic bear]

send a milestone package and then run fast to get on top of the freighter and it'll take you to the ceiling

[covert quarry]

when is the new update coming out?

[ornate saffron]

But defeats the purpose of learning how high you can build. Im not trying to get ppl to speed run. ^-^ im trying to impart knowledge through actions

[fiery pewter]

soon

[fiery pewter]

need it again in phase 2, then for modular engines

[ornate saffron]

Stay tuned to Tuesdays dev stream for the 1.2 experimental release

[fiery pewter]

thus phase 3 and beyond

[stuck osprey]

ok

[fiery pewter]

beware

phase 1 is like 50 or something

[covert quarry]

whats there to do after completing the game...

[fiery pewter]

phase 2 is 1000 iirc

[fiery pewter]

automate more

[ornate saffron]

Whatever your mind desires.

Its a sandbox game.

I have 3000 hours in mine raft and I've never beat the dragon

[stoic nebula]

what are your top 5 emojis??? mine are these
🧂
🥀
😭
🏳️‍⚧️
🔥

[fiery pewter]

why is salt up there

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-general

This is day three of you asking in this channel

[stoic nebula]

wrong channel...?

[fiery pewter]

yes

[stoic nebula]

srry gang

[fiery pewter]

down below

i the depths of this discord server

we have the glorious off-topic section

[ornate saffron]

Its okay as long as you put this knowledge to use

[stoic nebula]

oki doki

srrryyyy

i put it in the other place

[zenith pecan]

Looks like particle acceleraters are cropping up all over the dunes haha.

[ornate saffron]

Like agave in bloom

[zenith pecan]

Its pretty much why I retired my redundant coal, I plan to run it all through the loops for mass diamonds.

The first two are running, found two normals while I was chasing an impure for steel due to the 4800 from the power station not being enough.

[left hearth]

I bought items from the awesome shop but they didnt go into my inventory?

[ornate saffron]

The awesome shop has a tab for bought items

[acoustic bear]

purchases tab

[left hearth]

Ahhhh

Thanks

[golden burrow]

Hello

I wish to learn

[ornate saffron]

[golden burrow]

hru?!

@fierce valley

[ornate saffron]

Alive. Stuck at work for another 30minutes. Then foods and factories

[golden burrow]

Oh good luck

[ornate saffron]

Hbu

Hows your factory growing?

[golden burrow]

Well in fact I know the Satisfactory from a friend , and I want to learn about it before starting. And I joined this server for talking with people and learn

[ornate saffron]

Ah gotcha.

Well its addictive if this is your flavour of autism lol

I mostly make plans in spreadsheets work out all the math then get overwhelmed

[golden burrow]

I have a question is this on PlayStation 4? Is it free ?

[ornate saffron]

No amd no.

Modern consoles and pc only

No switch 2 either

[golden burrow]

Okay tysm 🫶

[ornate saffron]

Np

[golden burrow]

When I got a pc I will immediately buy it

[sleek halo]

A game like this will never be free

[ornate saffron]

Lol. Goodluck.

On YouTube
Gaming with doc has lots of good shorts

And totalxclipse has great building guides

[sleek halo]

When u finish ur first automatised production line

Its a pure shot of dopamine

[golden burrow]

Okay tsym for teasing me !

[sleek halo]

Ull see the power of chilling but sweating at the same time

Its hard to describe

[golden burrow]

Its okay

[sleek halo]

Wait ur french?

Im french too!

[golden burrow]

Yep

[golden burrow]

Omgggg

[sleek halo]

Twin or i should say mon jumeauuuuuu

[golden burrow]

Tié un tigre !

[sleek halo]

Mdrrrr

[golden burrow]

J’etais obligée desolee

[ornate saffron]

Get that perverted language in #off-topic-general

😂

Im French Canadian lol

[golden burrow]

Sorry!!!

[sleek halo]

Holy moly guacamole hater

[pallid ridge]

Can i put space elevator part into cloud?

[ornate saffron]

Well building it does make it go through the clouds.

You can deconstruct it and move it where ever you wish

[pallid ridge]

No, i mean like uploading the components such as adaptive control unit

[ornate saffron]

Oh ya you can upload it into the cloud storage.

Then you have to manually remove it and place it in the elevator

[bitter crow]

should i sommersloop my EIB assembler?

its at 15/min and im NOT happy

[tall lantern]

I'd probably just make more, but you do you

if it's really just one assembler then that'll only cost 2 sloops (and 4x the power of that assembler)