satisfactory

[dim lagoon]

no binder called saved

[junior arch]

Whats the ratio of freight cars to locomotives? Like if I need to do 10 freight cars how many locomotives should I use so it moves quickly

[drowsy kelp]

4:1 is a common one

[junior arch]

Thank you

Mind checking my post in #1038092680493801533
Its the one about factory train import

[sturdy pivot]

wrong link, here's a thing about freight weight
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Freight_Car#Weight

[junior arch]

Thanks ill save it

[white dawn]

In the end there's a fair bit of "is it good enough for you" to that question. 4:1 isn't a bad starting place (and I believe should allow your trains to go up any incline that the game lets you place down) but how quickly you're accelerating and going up hills will depend on how exactly you've built your inclines and how full the freight cars are, etc. So basically just be prepared to add more (or subtract some!) once your cargo's fully going, if need be

On a perfectly-flat rail you technically only ever need a single locomotive so long as you don't mind the slow starts. :)

[sturdy pivot]

somersloop trains when 😏

more like dual production manufacturers when. i'd rather build 12 manufacturers to do the job of 24 assemblers, or literally anything besides having to build dozens of clunky refineries for anything past p3

[white dawn]

-# sounds like you have yet to submit to the glory of blueprints...

[sturdy pivot]

am i blind or is your text smaller than normal? yeah i have blueprints for 4x2 constructors and whatnot, but when i want to map out a medium sized factory for 40 computers, and requires 150 buildings... alternate recipes and blueprints only go so far

a blender has twice the inputs and 1x the outputs as a refinery, why can't it take one material/one fluid input for one output, and if you make 2 then it gives an auto semi sloop or something?

[wispy osprey]

I want devs to add all buildings showing up on the world map as an official feature to all editions

It's so convenient I'm surprised it isn't already in the game

[sturdy pivot]

like what you can see when you upload your save to satisfactory-calculator.com?

[wispy osprey]

Yeah

[white dawn]

Available via mods, if you want it. Cartograph or Cartographer or whatever.

I agree it'd be a nice feature in vanilla, though

[junior arch]

You can sloop trains?

[wispy osprey]

Can't mod at all on console because devs hate poor people

[sturdy pivot]

no lol, just joking

[wispy osprey]

(Jk)

[blissful pasture]

I'm not too positive how it all works but maybe overwolf?

[junior arch]

Its going to be a flat push pull train. I just want it to haul ass

[white dawn]

I dunno, sounds overly complex to me for very little benefit. Could be something better suited to mods, in the end. :)

[junior arch]

Ooh lol

[blissful pasture]

Oh jk it doesnt have buildings

[wispy osprey]

Buildings foundations and rails

[white dawn]

"because devs didn't want to spend what would probably be multiple years of development time to implement what community modders had already done" is more accurate

Features gotta be prioritized. Yeah, it's a shame that console folks don't have access to mods, but "[hating] poor people" has nothing to do with it

[wispy osprey]

That's the joke, yes

[white dawn]

"joke," right.

Tone modifiers would help for "jokes" like that. :)

[wispy osprey]

Don't cop an attitude with me lol

[junior arch]

Mods would be so fun on console lol

[wispy osprey]

It isn't Twitter in 2021 unfortunately

[junior arch]

Alright I have to go build like idk how many train stations and a bunch of pure ingot factories. Ill catch yall later.
Oh apocalyptech I get you some screenshots when im done

[wispy osprey]

Just remember anything above 2km should be sent via train!

Or I think it was that much

[junior arch]

Thought so. I have to move 10.8k iron ingots and 7.8k copper ingots from the coast of the Dune dester to the middle. Someone told me to use a bus and move it

[wispy osprey]

It's still not a bad idea, some people have train systems all throughout the map anyway

Just requires more planning and a decent level of smart

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that "bus" has a pretty specific meaning, which isn't just "a bunch of conveyors taking stuff from point A to point B. That'd just be a Conveyor Highway or something.

[junior arch]

Whats the difference? Cause they were saying do a "conveyor bus" of like 6 or 8 belts @ 1200 per min

[white dawn]

Folks' threshholds for when they want to flip over to vehicles/trains/drones/etc can vary, of course -- 2km is hardly a rule that's set in stone. Personally I'll nearly always set up something other than belts when I've gotta move things more than like 400m or so (be it vehicle/train/drone)

[white dawn]

Let's see if the Factorio wiki can be linked-to: https://wiki.factorio.com/tutorial:main_bus

Aha, it can! Anyway, basically that: ^

The bus is something that gets fed into and taken from at essentially random points to support factory productions around it

[wispy osprey]

Isn't a conveyor bus an intake line

Ah that's a better explanation

[white dawn]

If you're just moving material from A->B it's not a bus, it's just conveyors. :)

(I don't think there's really an established term for "a bunch of belts all grouped together moving a bunch of stuff from A->B" but "conveyor highway" or the like probably comes closer)

[wispy osprey]

If you're like me and don't mind long stretches of conveyors in some situations then highways aren't bad

[white dawn]

It's true that popular usage of the term "conveyor bus" often drifts towards "a bunch of belts," of course. Time will tell if the descriptivists or prescriptivists win out, in the end

[wispy osprey]

It's a similar type of vs situation of "conveyor everything" vs any train logistics

You still get product somewhere technically, even if it doesn't look pretty

[versed mesa]

Hello all

[regal citrus]

hey guys! how many versatile frameworks per minute do you think is enough for project assembly 2?

[white dawn]

Decide how quickly you want to "complete" the delivery, take a look at the required quantity, and then do some math. That'll give you how quickly you'll have to produce them to hit that target

[regal citrus]

im making 5 per minute so that's gonna take like 3 hours. i guess that's good?

that rate leaves me with no modular frames for "personal use" though

[white dawn]

What I generally do is have, for instance, a Modular Frame factory that's just for personal use. No other exports. Whenever something else needs more MFs, I just make more right inside that new factory

(And I do that for basically everything, not just MFs)

Basically every factory is ore -> product

[regal citrus]

i guess i should've done that, but it was so easy to just connect it to my already existing MF factory lmao

[regal citrus]

I kind of did that with smart plating, i produced the screws on the spot

I'll go make another MF factory i guess lol

[stone horizon]

Trains seem way too complicated for me atm, so conveyers work for now

[amber scroll]

Cheese

[winged herald]

what would yall say is an ok amount of reinforced iron plates, modular frames and rotors for long term sustainability?

rn i have my factory planned to produce 5/min of each, is that enough?

[swift turret]

10 RIPs, 8 rotors, 10 modular frames to start and expand as you go

[winged herald]

bet. i have enough iron ore coming in for that

[swift turret]

if you have more you can always make more

based on how much you have incoming and your belt speed

[winged herald]

ehh i have about 200 more iron ore a minute coming in

[versed cosmos]

also 10 frames/min can easily be converted to heavy frames when you get them

[swift turret]

could probably get away with 15 modular frames and turning the 10 into heavy

[winged herald]

how much smart plating is a good amount to carry me on also

[versed cosmos]

honestly just make them as you need them

[swift turret]

unless you have alt recipes that require it you dont need them

[versed cosmos]

have an assembler and containers attached that you just feed plates and rotors by hand

[winged herald]

lmao i put 10 heavy modular frames into the factory tool and it went from 524 iron input to needing 2024 iron input

[versed cosmos]

its not 1 to 1

10 frames becomes 3.75 with the encased frame alt

[swift turret]

well you wouldnt make it in the same area. you'd ship off by truck or train

or you'd import more ore

[winged herald]

oh i did it backwards i put the 10 on the heavy modular frames as in 10 a min 🤣

[versed cosmos]

i build my modular frame factory to have my heavy frame factory attached to it

[swift turret]

you'll probably also want the heavy encased frame if you dont wanna deal with screws

iron pipe is easier to manage

[swift turret]

thats fine if you have the resources necessary but he may not

I built mine near some oil nodes so I could also make computers

[versed cosmos]

iron pipe, encased industrial pipe, and encased heavy frames

just iron and limestone

[swift turret]

also basic iron ingot is useful

or pure iron if you have refinarys and water

okay back to making aluminum

[dim mist]

finally my trains are working again

i had to do a massive resource transfer thing

2x8 train facility

[hazy topaz]

Do you guys have any tips for verticality within production lines?

[swift turret]

build up

hope that helps!

[dim mist]

use holes

[gloomy tusk]

i have given up

😔

[swift turret]

I usually divide them into sections. like all smeting goes on in 1 section then move the ingots up, then craft as much then move uo

[gloomy tusk]

i reached the point of the game being literally unplayable on my computer

[viral relic]

Got expanded toolbelt from the sulfur mam tree but it didn't actually increase it, not sure why

Had 5 before, still have 5

[dim mist]

i did a downward sulfur/coal -> compacted coal -> turbo fuel refinery (thats vertically down flowing
with oil flowing in from ground level, producing fuel which is pumped vertically and distributed down to the turbo fuel producing refineries with the compacted coal from above

[hazy topaz]

appreciate it, I definitely need to learn how to plan better

[silent comet]

Is the jump from turbo to rocket worth fully rebuilding my turbo fact over or nah

I'm in need of power but the production and processing of js uranium is a thorn in my brain

[lost oak]

I don't have access to blenders yet. Is it better to make Turbo Fuel or Turbo Heavy Fuel? I have the Alt Recipe to produce HOR straight from Oil.

[hidden pebble]

And 💦

[toxic lichen]

id say go for the Turbo Heavy using the ALT or taking from refineries making plastic or some shit

[lost oak]

Making plastic and rubber isn't that useful for me right now since I already have tons being made from my fuel power plant
Thankies

[toxic lichen]

then id go for the HOR alt -> turbo heavy imo (me no expert, just feels pretty efficient)

[quasi warren]

The converter is awesome

[gloomy tusk]

yo

how your factory doing

[toxic lichen]

ola me amor

not good not good
im still phase 3

decided to hand feed my machines to get ACUs so i can unlock phase 4 ;-;

[gloomy tusk]

acus?

[toxic lichen]

adaptive control units ;-;

[gloomy tusk]

those are easy compared to whats next

[toxic lichen]

idc ;-;

theyre a pain in my ass and i no wanna automate that bs rn

[gloomy tusk]

id highly recommend automating them now

[toxic lichen]

no >:(

[gloomy tusk]

also you have vencord?

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
how can you tell ;-;

[gloomy tusk]

what letters is your name

is it bwoggie

[toxic lichen]

that doesnt need vencord
js silly font websites

its Fwoggie

[gloomy tusk]

not that

i just needed to know that

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
what are you up to ;-;

[gloomy tusk]

it doesnt pop up with "fwoggie is typing"

and i needed to know how to write your name

[toxic lichen]

oh i forgot i have silent typing on

[gloomy tusk]

otherwise it wouldnt be accurate

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'

[gloomy tusk]

i cant play any satisfactroy

[toxic lichen]

oh e'-e'
that no good

[gloomy tusk]

i might buy this thingy but it only has 12gb ram

[toxic lichen]

download some ram off google
Ez pz

[gloomy tusk]

download more storage

new method?

[toxic lichen]

hasnt been patched yet

[swift turret]

I just screwed up bad

I was making aluminum factory and i forgot to smelt the copper before sending it to the aluminum

so now I have like 300 copper all mixed in like 20 assemblers

[winged herald]

factory go brrr

[winged herald]

sounds like something id do 😭

[swift turret]

yeah got it fixed but that was hella annoying

[gloomy tusk]

mb guys this isn't exctly satisfactory related

bro people keep getting hacked and sending stuff in screenshots

[zealous urchin]

theory of screenshot internet

[short fiber]

Mk 2 electric pole...oh how i live u. It's like the game version off getting an airfryer. It just makes you feel good

[tranquil saffron]

laughs in mk 3 with 10 power connections

[plain knoll]

when they add a cross play to the game ?

[reef basin]

Not between pc and console

Other crossplays are already there

[plain knoll]

why is that they won't add between consoles and pc

[scenic timber]

Anyone know of a good tutorial on blueprint auto-connection? Can't work out the rhyme or reason of belt auto-connection when it comes to splitters/mergers.

[blazing verge]

Hi what is the main goal of the game?

[tender knoll]

yo guys im trying to build my first nuclear power plant but idk where to build it anyone have tips?

[sterile blade]

Having a piece of belt going in/out of splitters/mergers can help autoconnect as they work as a "snapping point" for the input/output belts of autoconnecting blueprints (better than just splitters' and mergers' empty inputs/outputs)

[sterile blade]

Close to the item they need in the biggest quantities: water

[sterile blade]

Imo, lots of work for relatively little payoff

[reef basin]

because they are different versions of the game

[wintry carbon]

Anyone out there that could help me guide in vc to fix a problem.
i got 32 refineries melting iron, provided with unpacked water, but it seems the unpacked canisters keep bothering the water production.
each refinery uses 46,1541 water/min so i conected 6 of them to 1 mk1 pipe.
every 4 refineries put out 600 iron ingots/min.
that part works fine

[reef basin]

not in vc. And ideally use #1038092680493801533 and add screenshots

(why are you packaging water anyway?)

[wintry carbon]

prefer vc thought

[wintry carbon]

im in the desert

[reef basin]

yeah vc is terrible for problem solving here

[reef basin]

I mean you can still build near water or move it with pipes or fluid trains

[tender knoll]

so like in the edge of the map?

[wintry carbon]

you still can do private vc

[reef basin]

I know, but that's terrible

• other people can't join in
• if the person helping cannot help, you have to repeat the whole cycle
• the resolution isn't public and can't help other people

all that is not possible in #1038092680493801533, people can join, it's public and stays there for others to help you

[wintry carbon]

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

I mean... I said #1038092680493801533 🙂

with #screenshots you have to switch channels all the time, and #screenshots is generally just for showing off anyway

(and yeah, why not fluid trains?)

[wintry carbon]

could so that too ... but it needs more space

[reef basin]

no, it needs less space

you don't have any packagers

[sterile blade]

Wherever there is water and is convenient to you 🤷‍♂️

[wintry carbon]

posted in help

[gilded cloak]

why this calculator doesnt let me calculate a turbofuel power plant?
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[dense violet]

in the alt recipe tab, check mark compacted coal and turbo fuel

[gilded cloak]

i already did

oh, i have to mark turbofuel too?

didnt know, ty

[reef basin]

you have to mark all alts

it only assumes non-alts by default

[ionic tundra]

Sorry weird question, if my steam cloud is off, can saves be recovered?
I loaded the game up and it said there were no saves. I checked my pc for the save games and I don't have any
Am I going to have to start over?

[dense violet]

did you do something to delete saves?

[ionic tundra]

No not at all

[dense violet]

if your steam cloud is off it should ahve been saving things locally?

[ionic tundra]

Yeah they should have been, I checked AppData - Local and the save games folder and 2 files, one is the server manager and the other is a steam cloud VDF File

[dense violet]

you could try posting in #1038092680493801533 but don't like your luck :\ not sure why your files should have been deleted if you've been saving them

[ionic tundra]

Yeah I think I might just start again, I triple checked in game and It's not there

[unkempt blade]

this probably doesn't help with your current problem but you can use google drive or dropbox or something and have it back your saves up periodically

I use drive for my server saves and then the other players can mess with them in SCIM or whatever if they want to

[ionic tundra]

To be honest I normally keep backups on there but only for another game. Space Engineers, lost all of my blueprints, world saves. Literally everything. I'll do it for Satisfactory too, cheers guys

[sudden pilot]

i have 6 480 pipes and 2 160 pipes and i need to balance it between 5 600 pipes and 1 200 pipe but idk how to do that

[dense violet]

you don't.

process each pipe independently then clock and merge the next step as needed

[sudden pilot]

ok

thx

[dense violet]

Doing massive split merges with multiple fluid systems is a recipe for pain. Keep pipes simple and you'll be happy 🙂

[sudden pilot]

yay time to hook up my 32 blenders :)

[sweet arch]

playing in the desert got me constantly looking over my shoulder, what even is this ambient sound?!

[scenic mirage]

bruh why isnt my lizard doggo following me? it kinda does then after a certain point it literally just runs backwards??

[leaden turret]

did you tame it?

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

and ye its tamed

[leaden turret]

that looks like a bug. dedicated server?

[scenic mirage]

singleplayer

reload fixed it

[leaden turret]

check #1038092680493801533 to see if anyone else has had the issue & if not, check if anyone else has posted it on https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/, posting it yourself if not

[scenic mirage]

its weird asf tho lmao

literally runs backwards

didnt even turn around 😆

[leaden turret]

rubber banding forgetting where it should be 🤷‍♂️

[pine bough]

im at the point in teir 5 and 6 where i ahve stock piled up rubber and plastic and encased industrial beams etc and im struggling with a coal power plant of 2000MW of capacity (with an alien power augmenter) and i need help for what i should do for power, should i unlock petroleum power?

[rugged fiber]

not sure if anyone else figured this out but i just did lol , i just figured out use the lift hole hologram with H to raise it to the ceiling to align it then drop it to the floor :
even better u cn pop it to the ceiling first then H it into place :>

[scenic mirage]

yep petroleum power is next, you can build up some more coal gens to get it up and running or power storages

[dense violet]

typically I just do 64 coal gens and that gets me to tier 7 pretty comfortably

[pine bough]

just put in the resources needed to unlock petroleum power, do you have a thing that says like how to lay it out?

[blazing verge]

Hi how much fun will I have by playing this game

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[dense violet]

do you like sand box games?
designing your own projects?
automation?

if yes, lots
if no, not much

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[scenic mirage]

i used 2 pure coal nodes w max mk2 miners and mk3 conveyors

forget how many gens that was

[pine bough]

like with coal power there is like a diagram for the best way to lay it out, im wondering if there is one for the fuel powered power

[dense violet]

pure nodes don't really put out that much more considering the belt limitations

[blazing verge]

Yes I like that

But I like elden ring nightreign too

[dense violet]

those diagrams are just convenient layouts. Not 'best'

and not really for fuel

[pine bough]

ok

[scenic mirage]

i mean yeah i just grabbed them bc it was close and bc it gave a little extra for pure

[pine bough]

is fuel powered generator just biomass burners older brother?

[blazing verge]

@dense violet

[pine bough]

i have been sinking all my heavy oil residue cus like i had nuthin to do with it... RESIDUAL FUEL?!!!

[dense violet]

ok? You like two things. I didn't describe this game as elden rings

[pine bough]

cus the closest oil is 2200M away from me i just train the heavy oil residue back to base (i had to use oil for stuff to research train so i already made a conveyore belt for plastic/rubber)

[blazing verge]

So satisfactory is better?

[dense violet]

are trees or houses better?

it's not a question you can really ask

[blazing verge]

I want to buy one game 😭

[dense violet]

figure out if you want a sand box game or a souls like game

[leaden turret]

trees better, cos you can make houses with them, but you can't make trees with houses

[pine bough]

satisfactory is more long term

is a game you have to actually aside time for

and play it ALOT to reach the endgame stuff

[blazing verge]

Is variety guaranteed??

[pine bough]

wait for the steam sale friend, and get both 😎

spring sale is 1m away

[blazing verge]

I can't wait that much lol

I just bought 40 Dollar steam gift card

[pine bough]

are you american?

[blazing verge]

German

[pine bough]

k

[blazing verge]

You too?

[pine bough]

Euros?

[pine bough]

nah im aussy

[blazing verge]

Yes

40 euros

[pine bough]

$40 makes sense then,

game would be 36.56 for you

[blazing verge]

Yes

But I want to play a game rn not in one month

[pine bough]

wouldnt elden ring be $56 tho

[blazing verge]

I own elden ring. It is elden ring nightreign

[pine bough]

ohh

[blazing verge]

40 euros

[pine bough]

makes sense then

well like just get whatever one you want and like play that for a month and get the other one when its on sale

satisfactory is 30% off on spring sale and that elden ring nightreign things ahs 25% off for its lowest recorded price so if your looking to save money it looks like it would be better to get the elden ring game now as satisfactory has a deeper sale from the looks of things

[blazing verge]

Yeah satisfactory is more like a new game. And elden ring nightreign feels like the same as I already own

So I may want to test satisfactory out

If it is that good

Maybe satisfactory is also better for streaming

[pine bough]

@blazing verge

[blazing verge]

?

[pine bough]

when you said how much fun you would have someone replied "yes" and that perfectly encapsulates this game

[blazing verge]

Alr then I ma buy it for the full price

[ionic tundra]

So I have a feeling I already know the answer. I got a new save going, up to T2 already
Should I build a nice vertical starter factory
Copper Wire
Iron Plates
Iron Rods
Screws
Concrete

Or should I build a factory for each

[versed mesa]

Tbh depends what you want like you could do one huge factory for all or you could have multiple medium factories like going around one of another maybe in a square but maybe they should be a distance away from one another just incase you mite want to add in a trains and Drones and trucks

[ionic tundra]

I'm thinking of like an industrial estate. So there are these 4x4 factories
the first one I said, the second is 10 Reinforced Iron Plates per minute
last one is 10 Rotors per minute
so all 3 of those on a massive foundation with a collective storage area, have space for trucks

[versed mesa]

Or yeah maybe have it all in one building and have each rooms for them and label the rooms with whats producing what there many things to try its like me I really need to rethink my save

[ionic tundra]

Yeah I found the perfect spot for it, just need to get the sink program going for the conveyor bits and beams, and walls

[versed mesa]

Yeah do that maybe in middle make around about and space to add railway and Drone depot

[ionic tundra]

I'm only T2 for now but I defo will
do trains pass through a station or will they reverse?

[versed mesa]

Ok yeah that good then taje you time work on your first factory then progress later

[reef basin]

then do 🤷

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

basically ore -> factory -> storage

but you don't really need screws in big amounts, practically only for shop and some equipment and unlocks

[cloud crown]

Nothing like being jump scared by a big spider

[versed mesa]

Mods will no longer work when 1.2 drops they will need to get updated and would probably take weeks

😭

[leaden turret]

[insert "first time?" meme here]

[topaz talon]

hii

[peak wasp]

is there a pc mod that lets you play with consoles 😭

[jade parcel]

Hello all i think satis will be expandet the map with new ressources i think thats the easy way to make a addon

[crystal cedar]

U shouldn't really ask the satis dc if satis is good OFC THEY LL SAY IT IS(and yes its a game worthy of ur soul)

[high blaze]

what are the best alt's for alumina

[wanton cloud]

so much that when you look at the clock when you are finished with playing you will have gone back in time by a minute compared to when you started playing
(it has actually been 23 hours 59 mins)

[high blaze]

also just found a rocket hog

[wanton cloud]

a what hog now?

[unkempt blade]

Depends if you choose to turn it into a job or enjoy the game

[high blaze]

rocket hog

easter egg

[wanton cloud]

is it in possesion of a rocket

[wanton cloud]

how to trigger

[high blaze]

ill send u a private dm

[reef basin]

it's random

[unkempt blade]

Do a lot of exploring. It's a low chance spawn

[wanton cloud]

damn alright then

guys

im about to make some of more complex parts for phase 3

[high blaze]

only problem its on my pure bauxite node

[wanton cloud]

any tips

[high blaze]

just finished tier 3 today

[wanton cloud]

lure it away and contain it

[reef basin]

yeah, ignore discord and youtube and play on your own

game teaches you plenty

[high blaze]

just have fun I automated every part

[wanton cloud]

okay. i should start with some circboards

this mad easy to make ngl

[glacial drum]

Taking my cats home from the vet then I shall progress my RF plant!

[wanton cloud]

i think it's easy to make cause of the AWFUL proportions it has to computers and adaptive units

[high blaze]

yea and autemate heavy modular frames

[blazing verge]

thanks I bought it

[wanton cloud]

oh man they require screws. good thing i have the screw-less alt recipe stored in the hd library

[high blaze]

try the heavy encased alt

scrapes screws completly

[unkempt blade]

you're not screwmaxing very efficiently 🙁

[wanton cloud]

is swearing alowed?
fuck screws

[high blaze]

agreed

[wanton cloud]

yes that's the one i have stored

screw the screws

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in your ability to learn how to build for recipes that use screws

[sweet arch]

whats a good way to stack belts? the stackable conveyor thing works, but if you have 2 layers tall, any splitter will clip into the belt above....

[glacial drum]

Use nudge to raise it just enough maybe

[wanton cloud]

no i chose to be stubborn about screws a long time ago

since reinforced plates, actually

[glacial drum]

What foundations do yall use for your factories mostly?

[high blaze]

concrete

[glacial drum]

I had a 5x5 4m patterned one but I changed it to be a 6x6 grip since I thought it was better

[unkempt blade]

That's fine if it's fun for you. Not everyone is good at using the blueprinter

[wanton cloud]

concrete the most, as of lately coated concrete

[ivory condor]

Coated concrete is my preference

Sadly 4mm coated concrete walls arent a thing

[wanton cloud]

your manipulation tactics will not convince me to use screws

[glacial drum]

Screws aren’t the worst when you have high tier belts but originally they’re a pain.

[unkempt blade]

Totally ok. I understand you're proud of not playing part of the game because it benefits from a different build pattern

Some people choose not to move past "one big manifold for all of [item]" and that's ok

[vapid zinc]

I really dislike the wall options in this game, they're so ugly

And building the 1/2m walls just adds a billion objects which will end up dropping your fps probably

[glacial drum]

Do yall think if I used a conveyer lift and threw a splitter on it for the first floor (of three) and then threw a merger onto it halfway to merge a 2nd belt onto it that I could evenly split 1800 sulfur to 3 floors

One belt has 1200 one has 600. Each floor needs 600.

It makes sense to me that it would work.. But I’m not sure

[unkempt blade]

maybe I'm missing something from your intent but why not just split the 1200 and then send 600 to each floor?

[vapid zinc]

Yes but as far as I know, the 600 belt should use mk6 belt too

If you use mk5 belt to merge onto mk6 it just won't feed to a full 1200

[glacial drum]

I’d like it all to be done on the same lift to each floor if possible

[vapid zinc]

^ as I said above, make the 600 belt a mk6 belt and it should be fine

[glacial drum]

Yea they’re all gonna be mk 6 belts I no longer use any lower

[unkempt blade]

I'd assume your plan would work as long as at least 600 is consumed from the belt before the merger is added

[glacial drum]

Each floor uses 600/min so logically it should be perfect yes

[vapid zinc]

To test it I would just toss some sinks down first

But 1200 split into 2 belts and then one belt having 600 added again should be 1x 1200 belt and 1x 600 belt just fine

[glacial drum]

That’s my thoughts yea. I’ll definitely see if it works when I’m home from the vet.

Then I’ve just gotta setup the coal input.. And I’m done with the factories inputs.. Then on to 270 generators

[tall lantern]

it does seem a lot simpler to just send the 600 into the bottom floor then the 1200 to the middle... either way you've gotta send those belts in, and simpler setups are usually better than more complex ones for the same result

[viscid grove]

finally got my nobelisk factory set up, 30/min

and I hooked it up to my first dimensional depot of this save

[unkempt blade]

planning on using one every 2 seconds?

[viscid grove]

occasionally I use a particularly large batch of em

not sure why, I always make larger nobelisk factories. just for fun I guess

[unkempt blade]

fun is the important part!

[mortal ginkgo]

No.

[viscid grove]

and to have an already existing factory for when I start making all the other types of nobelisk

[viscid grove]

I will not waste my power shards on you, impure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

How DARE you!

[viscid grove]

my whopping zero shards

[mortal ginkgo]

Devs still didn't fix that MaM research for shards don't ask for limestone nodes. Smh furiously as we speak.

[unkempt blade]

you should write them a strongly worded feature suggestion!

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, and make sure signature name is Karen so they know it is URGENT!

[unkempt blade]

you need to see their manager right now about a very important MAM update!

[night sail]

I just unlocked heavy modular frame recently and setting it up has been a pain then I looked up the recipe for fused modular frame that thing Is a nightmare lol

[mortal ginkgo]

"But wait, it gets worse!" moment is indeed kekworthy. Kek. 😄

[drowsy kelp]

HMFs are annoying but not hard

[unkempt blade]

I like them because they really help me improve my screwmaxing stats

[acoustic bear]

whats the best alt recipes for coming up with lots of encased industrial beams?

[night sail]

Yeah I know what will happen when I unlock supercomputer that will be the death of me lol

[acoustic bear]

I'm mostly debating iron vs steel vs aluminum for the metal used

[unkempt blade]

there's only one alt

[acoustic bear]

yeah I should clarify, I'm looking for the beams that go inside

so the steel pipe vs beams etc

[jolly sierra]

Finally finished my trans- continental railroad (Grassy plateau to desert) on my non- advanced game settings save

[acoustic bear]

I have a bunch of concrete mixed up but I'm trying to decide how to make the steel pipe or beams

[unkempt blade]

encased pipes is usually considered a top tier recipe

[acoustic bear]

ok, so then when making the pipe should I do steel pipe or iron pipe. I need to consult the calcs

[jolly sierra]

I do steel, but iron can be good if you do it right

[ornate saffron]

Manually on a crafting bench 😂

Try to make ada cry

[jolly sierra]

Lol

[acoustic bear]

that's the pioneer way

[unkempt blade]

think it just depends what resources you want to use for the pipes. The alts are trading extra iron or concrete for coal in the vanilla recipe

[jolly sierra]

Is 240 KM/H normal on a tractor?

[acoustic bear]

if it's falling from a plane, yeah

[jolly sierra]

What about a train

[ornate saffron]

Ra ra, fight the powa

[unkempt blade]

you can find vehicle speeds on the wiki 🙂

[jolly sierra]

Power poles? Who needs em! We got

[acoustic bear]

I think I'm going to try to brute force some iron pipe here. I got way too much iron anyways

[jolly sierra]

It's like 110 normally but my track can go up to 240 on specific sections of the trans continental railroad both ways

[pliant prawn]

So with this randomizer mode, how do you suppose they deal with groups of nodes? You think it keeps like clusters consistent? Like where there might be three iron nodes in a clump it will still change all of them to one other type as a whole group?

[glacial drum]

I’m not gonna name names but someone forgot to handle the byproduct of compact coal in their RF plant

[pliant prawn]

Add water and burn for power?

Also, noted, RF is on my to do list and I hadn't thought about that

[bitter crow]

for the more complicated parts like supercomputers and such, do you all build them in a singular factory or is the production spread out from multiple smaller ones?

[glacial drum]

I usually start with a factory that makes just a more advanced item and then after I have a good supply of them I tend to later make a factory including them and related parts.

[acoustic bear]

singular factory is what I did

It's pretty easy to belt most stuff to a single area and then move it up and down vertically

[tall lantern]

single factory for that medium-grade stuff, but for the larger stuff later on I did have subfactories for some stages

[acoustic bear]

right around the supercomputer point drones start to make a lot of sense

you can move the high grade stuff around easily in smaller batches

[jaunty drum]

It’s not perfect but I made a space elevator factory
Is it fast.?
Not even close
The fastest thing it makes is versatile frames
But it’s quick enough for if I go start on something else that there should be a stockpile by the time you get back

[spark escarp]

#screenshots please help 😄

[pliant prawn]

Can you use nudge to bump it over? Not sure I understand the question sorry but I'll try.

[spark escarp]

I tried yes but the more I make it go left or right the less conveyors it grabs (in the second screenshot I tried to move it right and it only auto connects 1 line)

[pliant prawn]

Hmmmm. Weird. Because of the off set you might just have to do it manually for the connection. I don't use this feature that often so I could be wrong, but it might just be faster to do it the hard way in the end so you can keep going

[pine bough]

Just finished Phase 3 of the space elevator lets see what i need for Phase fou- FYM I NEED NUCLEAR PASTA TF EVEN IS THAT

[spark escarp]

yeahhh, im doing it the hard way right now 🤣 even tho I dont need 9 belts but ya know, looks better

im using 4 belts of the 9

welp 🤣

[pliant prawn]

Funny story, it's an actual theoretical thing. But uhhhhhh... Good luck? Lol I believe in you!

[stone quiver]

Nuke pasta ain't so bad. You'll get there

[pine bough]

ima stay at the oil level for a couple thousand hours worth of playtime and after that i MIGHT decide to start researching the section 7/8 upgrades

[stone quiver]

Everything is just steps

[pliant prawn]

Totally fair. I'm at like 2k+hours myself and have yet to "beat" the game lol.. I'm still having too much fun... Disguised as work lol

I haven't even turned on my nuclear plant. It should(tm) work... In theory.

[spark escarp]

#screenshots check this out 🤣

[brittle seal]

is there a map with all spider spawn locations somewhere?

[spark escarp]

Why doesnt it automatically use like straight or curve to build the conveyors 😭

[pliant prawn]

Try the wiki. Are you just trying to avoid them?

[warm finch]

Is this satire or is there actually an issue with the Mam research for shards?

[rustic urchin]

Is there a blueprint I can follow to build a automatic 100% efficient factory that crafts everything until phase 3

[brittle seal]

yea 🙏

[warm finch]

Streamlining pipe manufacturing let's you pump out crazy amounts of pipes to be used for stators, encased beams, HMF, etc.

[warm finch]

My personal record so far is 289. Reaching 300 was elusive for me. This was pre 1.0 lol

[pliant prawn]

If you like, there is the Arachnophobia move in the settings. You can make them all cats pics to make them less scary. also there's a passive mode. Unfortunately I didn't know how good a map would do. Some spawn in weird places. And night time also triggers some spawns. Generally, avoid caves for now.

[jolly sierra]

Now can't they go like 400 if you do it right

[pliant prawn]

Might try asking in #math-and-meta . I don't really approach it that way myself. There's no penalties for not being 100% efficient so it's not a deal breaker for me personally.

[brittle seal]

yea ik that, thanks for ur help bro
its just that i played this game so long that my brain finds those cat pictures as freaky as spiders gng 🙏

[mortal ginkgo]

joke

[warm finch]

You're better off making more than you need and sinking the excess for tickets.

[warm finch]

Relief! I'ma be upset if it actually was broken and I'm trying to get there lol

[mortal ginkgo]

well fundimentally everything is borked if they are not asking for limestone so there is that my dear brotherman of century

[pliant prawn]

Fair. The meowing was almost as scary as the spiders. If it helps, once you do find a spawn location, you can place some useless machines with power applied, and then save and reload.. Spawns turn off of there's actual stuff for the player in the area. You could even just place some lights, that'll scare em off. There's info in the wiki about the spawn rules

[brittle seal]

aig thanks

[nocturne nebula]

hey guys, how do I use sumersloops to double production pls? I cannot find the unlock

[pliant prawn]

Research in the MAM. Alien tech

!wikisearch sommersloops

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sommersloops

[nocturne nebula]

do I have to find SAM ore first? I have already unlocked the first for scanning of the sloops and the spheres

[warm finch]

Yes you do

[west sluice]

is there anywhere i can get mycelia where there aren't spiders?

[pliant prawn]

Yeah, I don't have my game in front of me ATM

[pliant prawn]

Yes! Several plants on the surface produce it when cut down. Your chainsaw will come in handy

[west sluice]

Thank you! Which plants?

[nocturne nebula]

np, I will try to find a map ... many thanks

[pliant prawn]

Look for anything mushroom like, or stuff that looks like rocks or coral. Black nodules near water, pink spikes, that sorta thing. Where are you close to right now?

[west sluice]

Ooooh I see, that makes sense. I'm currently near the Grass Fields.

[pliant prawn]

To your North East there's a purple forest, that has a lot. Dead North near a giant pit you can find some weird white rocky spheres that might be useful.

[west sluice]

Thank you very much! And once more for helping me avoid spiders 😭

[storm topaz]

Can someone point me to where to go to connect from epic to a steam hosted satisfactory game. Still frustrated at the whole platform situation but the fact the crossplay seems arcane is really disappointing :c

[toxic lichen]

why did i find an impure copper node up some stupid mountain

;-;

gimme a normal at least

[pliant prawn]

I don't know much about the cross platform stuff I'm afraid. I don't think you can, but I could be wrong? It's a major bummer if that's what's blocking you from playing and I feel for ya man. Try asking maybe in #off-topic-tech ? I really don't know bro, sorry

[pliant prawn]

It be like that sometimes. I just found a bunch of weird iron that is like really why would I bother?

[toxic lichen]

its a bit silly to see at times

[pliant prawn]

I do wonder if randomizer will make that a totally different experience haha

[warm finch]

Should be able to play between steam and epic. Cross play on different platforms do not work (yet) due to it being a recent port).

Have you tried using the session ID to join the game?

[warm finch]

I would love a satisfactory 2.0 with random map generator. They do it for valheim and it's great! Would make maps varied and very interesting. Would also allow for even more customizations to make it easier or harder.

[pliant prawn]

I think we need a pin for this steam to epic play. It sounds like an important one to have at quick reference. Let me look, maybe there's already one... Please standby lol

[versed mesa]

You mean 1.2 lol

[warm finch]

I do not

[versed mesa]

Well you got a long wait 😂

Imagine Satisfactory in NMS galaxy maps

[warm finch]

Nah. I waited for 1.0 so waiting for a new iteration of the game doesn't bother me. I'm at 1400 hours and STILL enjoying it.

Just hate my life right now because I can't speed run through desert dunes lol. So shit is progressing much slower than I would like

[versed mesa]

Awesome mate

[jolly sierra]

yall wanna play lol

[pliant prawn]

Does this help? https://youtu.be/MBM1sjw8UrE?si=pitgvyEH3O1sxKEi

[jolly sierra]

#1472292809145847972

[warm finch]

#1201555265942724758

[jolly sierra]

uhhhh see above

[spiral summit]

is it possible for the 1.2 game mode to include a new/diff map

[versed mesa]

Whats your thoughts on this ?

[warm finch]

Currently not in the plans

[jolly sierra]

don think so

[spiral summit]

aw

[jolly sierra]

its a handcrafted map so it would take a WHILE

[warm finch]

Unless they did RMG lol.

[pliant prawn]

It's coming with a node randomizer. So same map, but resources will scatter.. The current map took literally like six years to build as it's all handcrafted.

[gentle sigil]

hey guys. I made an album that is a sort of homage to Satisfactory's soundtrack. Am I allowed to post a link to spotify for you guys to hear it?

[jolly sierra]

#off-topic-media

[pliant prawn]

Afaik yes, but in #fan-art

[gentle sigil]

ok thanks!

[versed mesa]

Just go to AI with help on map creation

[pliant prawn]

Naaahhh. I don't think that's the move chief

[jolly sierra]

:banhammer:

oh my nitro expired

[versed mesa]

I bet AI would come up with great designs

[storm topaz]

Managed to get it working, they hasd to start the server and have a steam player join first, mby to 'force' it onlinbe

[spiral summit]

so it looks like the new game modes just going to be a bit different and nothing worth spending an extra 1000 hours on

[versed mesa]

Go to AI and ask it to Design a map for Satisfactory and see what it creates lol

[pliant prawn]

AI can't grasp the mechanics of a world the way a person can. You'd need an entire LLM just dedicated to that. You give me the choice between Hannah, or someone like them, and an AI,... I'm going with the humans. It's way more fun

[acoustic bear]

That's exactly what I'm trying to tackle now. They're used in so many of those mid tier items

[versed mesa]

😂

[warm finch]

You're entitled to your wrong opinion

[pliant prawn]

I'm quite certain of a standard playthrough of the base map can go for 1k, then a randomizer will repeat that to a good enough level. I'll lol forward to the YouTubers losing their minds

[nocturne nebula]

do the alternate recipes give higher AWESOME points?

[warm finch]

Yah I love streamlining pipe production for big logistical chains. More so when you have excess iron nodes and want to use steel for other stuff

[warm finch]

They do not. Each item has a fixed value of how many points they are worth

[pliant prawn]

Not per the item, but if you're making more of the item thanks to the alternate than you still net gains

[versed mesa]

Bye all am heading back to sleep

[frosty mirage]

fixed my pc and got the game on it as well, curious of the difference compared to ps5

[reef basin]

They said hard no for new maps

[nocturne nebula]

cool

[reef basin]

Recipes don't give any points

And afaik all recipes give more points than their ingredients

Except maybe some unpackagers or something

[frosty mirage]

i was thinking about starting in rocky dessert instead of grass fields this time, thoughts?

[ornate saffron]

all the starting areas has there merits

[nocturne nebula]

is there any SAM near the Dune Deserts starting area?

[ornate saffron]

yes, i think you need nobs to get to it though

[nocturne nebula]

I have those 🙂

[ornate saffron]

check the SCIM pinned in #math-and-meta for exact location

[nocturne nebula]

I am near the river north of it

I looked on that, still can't find it, lol

[ornate saffron]

turn on caves

[pliant prawn]

There's some atop the cliffs

[nocturne nebula]

thought I found one on top of the clifs, its cat instead, lol

[frosty mirage]

do i miss anything if i skip onboarding?

[pliant prawn]

Keep looking, it's up there.

[ornate saffron]

a trophy

[warm finch]

If you haven't done it yet, do it. If you already have, you miss nothing by skipping it

[pliant prawn]

Not really. Some cute dialogue, some practice with basics. Nothing to really worry about if you want to get right to it

[ornate saffron]

switching from console to pc they are

[warm finch]

Same answer, lol. If they haven't done it on PC, worth doing it

[pliant prawn]

Do you have it on the scanner yet?

[nocturne nebula]

nope, need my first 10 to spend

[pliant prawn]

Ohhhhhh gotcha yeah

[nocturne nebula]

found lots of slugs though!

[warm finch]

There's an impure node in a cave with a small entrance you have to blow up but otherwise easily reachable

[nocturne nebula]

aaah, haven't spotted any caves yet

[warm finch]

It's literally tiny

Covered with some bushes. Best to look at the scim map to help navigate to it

It's on a rock outcropping with 2 large pillars and an arch near the water

[nocturne nebula]

got wrecked, lol

those green hogs are TOUGH!

[pliant prawn]

Nuke hog? Lol

[nocturne nebula]

yep

[pliant prawn]

Fun fact, they have more energy per object than uranium

[warm finch]

The radiation spiders are the absolute worst

[ornate saffron]

its not in a cave its up high. got my locals mixed

[waxen locust]

VERY very dumb Idea I'm throwing at the wall to see if it sticks.

What if- after you unlocked. E V E R Y achievement in the game. You gain the ability to automate sommersloop production-

[warm finch]

There's 1 up high in the far top left corner of dune desert

[pliant prawn]

I'd be okay with this. If nothing else just to keep my PC from being for mercy LMAO

[ornate saffron]

or just turn on advacned options and put them in your inventory as you donmt care about achiements anymore

[warm finch]

I can't remember if it's a normal or pure. There's only 2 sam nodes in dune desert area

[waxen locust]

thats fair XD i just figured it'd be funny

[ornate saffron]

but if you are on pc i am sure there is a mode for what you seek

[pliant prawn]

I hope 1.3 is either a story expansion, or just a straight up DLC. I'd pay for that

[waxen locust]

I hope I'm on a PC XD been playing since U1 XD

[warm finch]

I'd prefer a 2.0, I'd pay for a whole new satisfactory in a heart beat

[ornate saffron]

apperently the studio has hired more staff. this means they are starting a new project or major content

[nocturne nebula]

yeay, found one, surrounded by radiation, lol

but I can build there atleast! 😄

[pliant prawn]

Like...I get that... But here I am 2k hours deep and haven't even "beat" the main quest. Let them cook, but also like don't burn them out y'know? I want a Satisfactory 2, but only when they want to make one.

[nocturne nebula]

the most northern I have ever been

[warm finch]

Yeah that's what I'm saying: I'd rather they put the effort into a new satisfactory game and rake in the dough than a dlc or version update

[pliant prawn]

They have whispered about a DLC in passing. I'm here for them. Hell I've bought the have twice lol

[waxen locust]

same here

[warm finch]

More power to them. They've done a great job. Love to see satisfactory and Valheim continue to grow

[waxen locust]

granted, the first time i bought it. I got it for like. $7, cause ebic had given me a $10 card, and satisfactory was half off. so I nabbed it at a S T E A L of a price

[nocturne nebula]

noice

and its a marvelous game ... my fav ever actually

[waxen locust]

agreed.

[pliant prawn]

Heck yeah! I got valheim AND song of conquest through Satisfactory. Great fun all around.

[waxen locust]

I think i've even bought it for a friend. so technically. I bought it 3 times?

My nostalgia is also craving to play older updates, like back before U3. I'm aware the game wont have half the amount of polish. but. N O S T A L G I A.

[pliant prawn]

Lol that's fair. Challenge modes from older updates would be kinda a neat feature. Like "belts only" mode and stuff

[nocturne nebula]

these radiation nuggets on the floor hurt a LOT less than they used to

[ornate saffron]

thats the long term effects of them on your brain

[waxen locust]

ye that'd be fun. I also hope we get a gamemode where the world is random gen. It allows them to keep the base world, and have that be the story "mode" and thena, RNG world that has no story. but you get major replayability from that. even just as an option.

[ornate saffron]

more details at the end of the month

[delicate sage]

Why aluminum struggles even when numbers add up for production? It still hesitates to take in silica for some reason ?

[waxen locust]

I'm patient :3 just wishful

[nocturne nebula]

I have ADHD ... I need more more adverse affects on mah brain! 😄

[waxen locust]

I also hope they fix the "jitteryness" of B-Hopping in mulitplayer. its nigh impossible

[nocturne nebula]

does anybody here find arachnophobia mode scarier than the spiders even though they love cats?

[waxen locust]

I'm impartial to it. funnily enough I do have arachniphobia tho. but for me, it doesn't effect video games. Like I can walk around skyrim caves, satisfactory caves and grounded just fine. not trigger anything. but the moment I see even a spec of a spider IRL. IM OUTTA THERE.

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[drowsy kelp]

Spiders irl don’t bother me but stingers, both with and without cat mode, are terrifying

[nocturne nebula]

I struggle with slugs

[drowsy kelp]

Stingers and spore flowers fsr both bother me

[brave violet]

i am so happy i bought this game because i always wanted it but today is my birthday and i got money to buy this game

[waxen locust]

god im so envious

[drowsy kelp]

Nice

[waxen locust]

enjoy it. don't google anything. just go by the wind

[drowsy kelp]

And don’t skip onboarding

[waxen locust]

that too XD

[drowsy kelp]

There was something i wanted to say but i forgot it

[brave violet]

well for now it is just crafting simulator

[waxen locust]

mood

[drowsy kelp]

If you tap the space bar once you don’t have to hold the button

[brave violet]

i actually knew that

i am just impatient because i have ADHD

[drowsy kelp]

I think it was be careful of the big spiders, they can jump over 50 meters (6 and a bit foundations) in any direction (including up)

Alt+left click is great for getting the distance to a thing

[waxen locust]

yea, setup those smelters and constructors right away XD.

The only tip I shall give you, that the game doesn't tell you but you gotta be really aware of.
|| The biomass burners on your HUB are 10MW weaker than the biomass burners you can make yourself. ||

[waxen locust]

I rebound my ping button to Z XD one cause that the time I was playing siege, and two. it's not a combo key XD

[drowsy kelp]

You can ride the space elevator platform when you launch it if you want to

The hitbox sucks so use pinging to find the actual hitbox

And don’t forget to put all your stuff in a chest because you will die

[waxen locust]

I find riding the milestone drone is funnier

[reef basin]

I mean it's not supposed to be "less scary mode", it's "less spidery mode"

[drowsy kelp]

Leaving your stuff is a requirement for that

[waxen locust]

or just turn on keep inventory in the settings

[drowsy kelp]

Because of how death crates spawn on the last solid ground you stood on and the hub thing counts as ground your death crate will be miles in the sky

[ashen tangle]

this is my first time playing but I'm a bit confused, I'm on hub upgrade 4 and I was supposed to unlock portable miners in upgrade 1, but when I go into the q menu they're not there?

[drowsy kelp]

They’re not there

You hand-craft them in the equipment workshop

[waxen locust]

in the equipment workshop. its a placeable building. then you place them in your hand and click/trigger on the ore

[ashen tangle]

whats the equipment workshop?

[drowsy kelp]

It’s in the special category of the build menu

Next to the crafting table

[ashen tangle]

ahhhhh thanks

[drowsy kelp]

Did you skip onboarding or something

[waxen locust]

I feel like, they should make it so that. if the game can't find any saves in the game, then you CAN'T skip onboarding.

[ashen tangle]

no im still in the onboarding

I made sure it was on

[waxen locust]

something funny with experimental righ tnow, is that. If you arn't looking at the space elevator directly and the bottom portion. The animation for sending of a shipment will just keep looping XD. which I know is fixed in main. just a funny bug XD

[rustic urchin]

How many smelters to one T2 iron miner that’s on a pure vein

[quasi warren]

Depends. Do you want to overclock? If so, to what speed?

[rustic urchin]

I just want it to where the smelters are never at 100 raw iron they’re cooking too slow which means production is too slow

[quasi warren]

Im confused by that

[rustic urchin]

X4 smelters at 150% overclock isn’t fast enough for the T2 miner Pure iron vein should I overclock them to 200% or add more smelters at 150% its iron ingot production rate isn’t where I’d like it to be

[quasi warren]

Overclock all miners to 250

Thats my rule of thumb

What's the best ur belts can handle

[rustic urchin]

Is it true that mergers and splitters slow down the speed of stuff on the belt going from point A-B

[quasi warren]

Not slow. The merger and splitter is infinite throughput. Based on the belts you used, it changes

[unkempt blade]

If you're using a manifold the stuff near the entry side needs to fill up before the stuff at the far end of the conveyor runs full speed. It's not a sign of stuff running slow by itself

[rustic urchin]

Would u perchance know anything about coal gens?

[unkempt blade]

what about them?

[rustic urchin]

Coal Generators: 12
Water extractor: 6
With 2 normal coal veins both with Miner Mk.2

What would I have to do in order to fully overclock all of the generators

I’m struggling with power to be able to power a refiner + my entire base

[unkempt blade]

if you're just figuring stuff out it might be easier to just do 8 gens to 3 extractors as many timess needed rather than to overclock them

[spring walrus]

do the developers frequent this discord? Or is sending feedback only possible through the website?

[unkempt blade]

then you take your total coal input, divide by 120 to figure out how many sets your need

[rustic urchin]

Coal & water isn’t a issue I just need more MW but u don’t wanna build more gens

[dull grail]

will there ever be a new content update?

[unkempt blade]

better do the math for your overclock then 🙂

[rustic urchin]

Idk how to but I can try I’m still new to the game

[unkempt blade]

It's just a multiplier. Normal = 1 and max overclock = 2.5 so your input needs to be multiplied and your power output will increase at the same multiple

[elfin smelt]

if you want more power you need to build more

[unkempt blade]

you're probably also using mk1 pipes so you'd need to also not try to shove more than 300/min water through a single pipe

[stone quiver]

Just look at the miner output. Match the smelter input

[elfin smelt]

theres no escape, overclocking can only go so far

[unkempt blade]

people will do anything but read the conversation before trying to respond

[warm finch]

There's been content updates for quite a while. They're working on 1.2 right now.

[warm finch]

You could slow down the miner as an alternative. Or use a mk1 miner

[stone quiver]

Slowing down miner serves no purpose

I guess saving 1 MW

I think cat should just make more smelters. And match the in/out

[warm finch]

They have their purpose, it's their game. I offered an alternative solution to their question.

That's the thing I love about this game, so many different ways to view this game and determine priorities

[stone quiver]

I just mean that a conveyer from the miner being full can never cause a process to stop or have problems because it's the first step and has no byproduct

[spring walrus]

The #satisfactory-memes contributions are hilarious btw

Have they mentioned anything like a building drone akin to StarRupture by the way? Does anyone know?

[stiff dock]

hi

i'm new

do i have to keep running around at the beginning to get resources to build things ?

i know i'll probably be able to automate it eventually but it's kinda tedious is this normal or am i missing a way to get resources easy

i'm trying to complete hub upgrade 4

[spring walrus]

resources to build what?

[stiff dock]

just getting iron and copper and limestone and stuff

[spring walrus]

you mean you're using portable miners and running to the nodes?

[stiff dock]

no i have a hub set up in the middle and im running to each node to get the materials

should i put portable miners there ?

idek what that is

[spring walrus]

did you skip the onboarding perhaps?

[stiff dock]

no i didn't

[spring walrus]

no you shouldnt use them past the tutorial

[stiff dock]

i'm on onboarding objective 8

[wanton cloud]

and you missed the entire portable miners thing?

im literally insulted.

[stiff dock]

no it never gave me an option to make one

[spring walrus]

You should have Miners MK1 at some point, and then you route those ores into smelters, and the smelters into the factories.

[stiff dock]

yeah i'm
not there yet

so for right now i just manually get the ores and materials?

[wanton cloud]

make the equipment workshop and build some porta miners for gods sake

how could you forget me

[spring walrus]

xD

[wanton cloud]

my entire larp thing

big insult

can we send him to the red forest please

he needs some discipline

[stone quiver]

You only manually get ore out for the first 1 minute or so. Then auto miners, then miners mk1 and conveyers . Follow that progression. Tutorial should walk you pretty far through tier 1

[wind trellis]

hi im italian

[stiff dock]

it says i have a missing material for the porto miner whag do i need to make it

[stone quiver]

Iron plate iron rod

[stiff dock]

sorry i'm slow

[wanton cloud]

well, you see next to the pictore of the miner in the center screen, it says how much of each material you need

[stiff dock]

i have heard about this game for a while and i want to get into it but it seems complicated

[wanton cloud]

if it seems complicated and you're not even in phase 1 i'm genuinely concerned about how you'll do in phase 5

though, it might be just that you need to catch on all the features the game offers

[stiff dock]

how do i build the auto miner

like what button , cuz it's different that like a building

[wanton cloud]

equipment workshop

equipment workshop is in the same menu as the HUB

[hazy topaz]

if i’ve got 120 iron ingots being produced, i’d need 8 constructors to use them all to produce iron rods in a manifolds system yeah?

[wanton cloud]

probably

[stiff dock]

also copper is so far from iron

like far away

[hazy topaz]

Belt highways my friend

[wanton cloud]

how far?

[pastel surge]

You know whats the real nuclear pasta?

My nuclear fuel factory

[wanton cloud]

invalid on distances over 1km

[pastel surge]

My world is a MESS

[wanton cloud]

as in not feasible

[wanton cloud]

you shoulda seen my first save, im genuinely thinking tf was wrong w me then

[stone quiver]

Excuse my entire world. I guess I'll just build over the void pit

[stiff dock]

an iron node is like 400m from a copper node which is like 100m from a limestone node

and i don't have conveyers yet

[hazy topaz]

Then use auto miners to get the resources and work towards getting conveyors

[wanton cloud]

with each phase the distance you can cover in a set amount of time becomes bigger and bigger, in phase 2 500m is gonna be really short

[stiff dock]

i think i'm gonna start over and start everything again , im like 30 min in anyways

[wanton cloud]

sure, if thats what you want. atleast now you got some valuable experience

good luck in the future pioneer

[stiff dock]

does it matter where i put the hub btw

[hazy topaz]

You can always deconstruct and move it

[stiff dock]

but like what's an ideal place to or it

put

[hazy topaz]

I like to place it so it doesn’t get in the way of my production lines but also is close for milestones

[stone quiver]

Next to the first iron you find

[wanton cloud]

meh, it only matters in the first 1-2 phases. after that resources are too spread out anyways

[stone quiver]

You'll move soon after

[stiff dock]

okay, thx for the help everyone , i'm a bit stupid sometimes and im sorry, i hope to enjoy this game !

[hazy topaz]

trust me, feeling stupid with that at the beginning will only continue lmao

[wanton cloud]

lmao i feel you, i was so frustrated that i couldnt place a mk1 miner then i realized i had to mine the central node

[stiff dock]

i knew this would happen that's why i joined

the server

[hazy topaz]

Just you wait till you learn about manifolds, splitting and by god a lot of math.

[pastel surge]

I'm on my first save

I'm on the last teir at about 55hrs in this save

[stone quiver]

Phase 5 in 50hr is fast at

You spaghetti monster? Semi-auto manufacturers for parts?

[hazy topaz]

that’s impressive i’ve got like 35 hours and ive made like 5 saves and the highest i’ve gotten is the first space elevator milestone

[stone quiver]

How do you live with mk1 conveyers for 35h . Bless

[pastel surge]

I didnt

[brittle seal]

does someone know what the best recipes for supercomputers & fused modular frames are?

[pastel surge]

I moved on pretty quick, by using the awesome shop I could use tickets to buy materials to progress instead of spending a ton of time to automate them

[hazy topaz]

I didn’t for my latest save LMAO, I hand crafted everything till I could get Mk2 belts

[pastel surge]

Then with the new tech I could automate stuff faster

[stone quiver]

Super computer is two separate ways uhh depends where you wanna build. Caterium and plastic heavy or you want aluminum and rcu path. There's no best

[pastel surge]

I went aluminum and rcu

[stone quiver]

Ahh yes , I forgot awesome store purchases and crash scavenging can skill a huge chunk of automation for a while

Some people hate aluminum processing . And building around oil is fairly easy

[hazy topaz]

Did you go the manifold or splitting the resources evenly approach for your factory approach?

[pastel surge]

Manifold

[autumn viper]

does anyone know why roofs dont unlock for me in the awsome shop i checked all the boxes to unlock them but they are still locked (let me know if i am in the wrong channel for this or not)

[fathom shuttle]

Would you guys buy a new DLC if it drops?

[hazy topaz]

yes

[brittle seal]

the second it drops bro

does someone know what the best alternate recipes for supercomputers & fused modular frames are

[unkempt blade]

I don't think so. That sounds like a lot of work

[hollow hemlock]

the best alt is whatever you have your factory setup for

[unkempt blade]

That's a common misconception. The actual best alt recipe is cast screws

[brittle seal]

im building a new factory for it anyways

[hollow hemlock]

well then look around at your environment, then look at the available options, and decide what is best given the materials on hand, the space you have, and the coolness factor

its not like there's hundreds of options for those particular recipes

[brittle seal]

i see the whole environment as my own 🔥
was just asking objectively but aig

[stone quiver]

I answered you. Build on aluminum or don't. There's only two options. So take your pick on what you want to try to balance. Full auto aluminum without a bunch of dumps is a decent challenge

[hollow hemlock]

there isn';t an objective best

[unkempt blade]

the super computer recipe doesn't matter but you definitely want to use crystal computers for that part of it

[hollow hemlock]

(except perhaps cast screws, as stated earlier)

[stone quiver]

Requires crystals . They're not accessible everywhere

[unkempt blade]

Better set up a conveyor then

[brittle seal]

ah bruh didnt see it, thanks

[unkempt blade]

and then for FMF either recipe is good but you want to use the vanilla HMF recipe or heavy flexible frames and bolted frames in the chain

[stone quiver]

Caterium computers build faster . Quartz computer pairs better with aluminum path than non but just my humble thoughts

[pastel surge]

What do we think of this master piece

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

needs more colors and more factory carts

[brittle seal]

ill prob do the state supercomputer with the quartz computer

thanks for the help

[stone quiver]

Float it higher

[pastel surge]

Why

[wanton cloud]

do you mean phase 5?

or tier in phase 1

[pastel surge]

Uhhh

[wanton cloud]

genuinely

[stone quiver]

You can always go higher

[wanton cloud]

im almost 200hr in and i don't even got circuit boards automated

[pastel surge]

Phase 5

[wanton cloud]

fahh

can we see how your world looks? is it organized or pure spaghetti chaos

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, circuit boards aren't really important

[pastel surge]

Chaos

[unkempt blade]

no screws so what's the point

[wanton cloud]

ye but u need em for computers and adaptive units

[pastel surge]

Im currently starting phase 5

[wanton cloud]

still

nevermind

im actually only 150 h in

[reef basin]

Those will make their own CBs

[wanton cloud]

CBs?

[pastel surge]

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

Circuit boards

[pastel surge]

I'm mainly in uhhhhhhhy the desert

[wanton cloud]

no wonder ur 50h in

[pastel surge]

I just belt resources over

[wanton cloud]

well that's partly what i meant but alr

[pastel surge]

Like caterium, uranium, aluminum

And oil

[pastel surge]

Cuz the desert is easier?

[wanton cloud]

im talking about your entire organisation of buildings and belts

[stone quiver]

Desert is fine. Nothing is really a difficult start

[reef basin]

Thats subjective tbh

All the locations are designed to start in, so they aren't particularly hard

[pastel surge]

Ore purity

[wanton cloud]

on that matter only the grassy start is hard

[pastel surge]

Better nodes in some places

[pastel surge]

Yep

[pastel surge]

Some places are organized, some aren't

[reef basin]

You can't really use pure fully until mk6 belts

[pastel surge]

I don't need to

[pastel surge]

Wait, yes you can

Mk5 belts are 780

[reef basin]

Point is that early game purity doesn't change anything for early game

[pastel surge]

Oh wait

[stone quiver]

And you need 1200

[reef basin]

Pure is 1200

[pastel surge]

Mk3 miner

I forgot, I haven't used it yet

[reef basin]

So for early game even impure nodes give practically same amount of resources

[pastel surge]

Early game it's double

[reef basin]

Only difference is slightly more power consumption, but that's irrelevant once you hit coal gens

[pastel surge]

Mk2 miner doubles it

[reef basin]

But you're still limited by belts

Mk1 pure is already 120

[pastel surge]

And when do you get mk2 belts

[reef basin]

You also get mk2 miners and need 240

Or 600 when clocked

[pastel surge]

Your probably right

[reef basin]

Impure clocked to max does 75/150 depending on miner

Mk2 miner on impure already needs mk3 belts

[stone quiver]

Biggest annoyance to me is water limits

[pastel surge]

I wish we got mk3 pipes

[stone quiver]

And water pump. Covering the ocean with them lol

[reef basin]

People alelready struggle with mk2

[pastel surge]

And nuclear needs 600 water per minute

That's 2 fully clocked pumps

[reef basin]

Which is 2 extractors

[glass basalt]

quick question, is there anything known about sudden fps drops after about 5 min of playing? im running at a wopping 4 fps

[reef basin]

And it conveniently fits in front of the NPPs

[pastel surge]

I put it under

So my NPP is on the wayer

[wanton cloud]

never happened to me. possible hardware issue

[reef basin]

Well fluids like to be flat or go down 🤷

[pastel surge]

So just use a pump

[glass basalt]

never had issues before tho, just today for some reason

[warm finch]

Don't mention pipes.....

[wanton cloud]

idrk, im not an experienced person

[pastel surge]

Using satisfactory modeler helps

[stone quiver]

Manifolds don't affect the throughput

[wanton cloud]

try restarting the game/PC

[glass basalt]

tried that, but ill manage. just wanted to know if it was maybe a recent patch or anything

thank you anyway

[stone quiver]

Optimizing 100% throughput from start to finish is a challenge, but there's lots of materials where matching throughput has no impact. Like you can overproduce ingots and it'll just level load itself to the demands after itself

[pastel surge]

"UNABLE TO SCAN HARD DRIVE (NO REWARDS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE" does this mean I've scanned everything

[reef basin]

No reason to do that if you build flat 🤷

[reef basin]

Everything you currently have access to

[pastel surge]

Less space efficient?

[pastel surge]

Oh okay

[reef basin]

Space is practically infinite

[warm finch]

I'd buy the sequel at full price the second it dropped

[pastel surge]

Oh

[reef basin]

Also it uses more 3D space

[pastel surge]

That's fine

[stone quiver]

Building vertical is the way. It's fun to route pipes up 200m

[warm finch]

Wrong. It's biocoal.

[pastel surge]

I only have 6 NPP rn anyway

[reef basin]

There's no "best" or "worst" recipe

[wanton cloud]

it has not and will not ever cross my mind to build vertically with pipes in question

[stone quiver]

Anything you build horizontal you can do vertical

[wanton cloud]

oh there sure are. some recipes objectively suck

[reef basin]

Nope

[pastel surge]

There is

[stone quiver]

Pumps work

[reef basin]

You're confusing "I don't like recipe/I don't have use for it" with "objectively bad"

[wanton cloud]

tell that to biocoal and charcoal. never seen anyone use it unironically and as an actual part of their factory design

[reef basin]

I did. Ammo factory, don't need coal

[wanton cloud]

except you, mr. alt recipe lover

[reef basin]

Many people did lol

[pastel surge]

As soon as I got coal I stopped using biofuel

[wanton cloud]

many who

[stone quiver]

Those two recipes are doodoo. But everything else is good

[glacial drum]

Once the manifolds fill fully #screenshots message I’ll have 162k capacity just from my RF plant

[crude canyon]

I used it once
But it was actually ironically
I was doing a playthrough where power had to come from biomass

[reef basin]

The fact you didn't see it means nothing with 2m+ players lol

[wanton cloud]

see. this is what i mean, that is the only context where those 2 recipes are not bad

[pastel surge]

So your torturing yourself

[stone quiver]

Looks like rocket fuel gens.

[unkempt blade]

biocoal is in the top 5 but cast screws is definitely best

[stone quiver]

It's bc those recipes can't automated, and they're so early game it's like when would you use them reasonably

[warm finch]

Quiet, let us have fun lol

[wanton cloud]

im saying just cause you're using them, doesnt mean they're good recipes.
Also they cannot possibly be automated. not permanently atleast

[glacial drum]

Y’all think a 5 tall indy cargo converted into packaged ionized fuel would last me till the end of phase 5?

[stone quiver]

Best recipe is screws and diamond and dark matter alts. I wont hear otherwise

[unkempt blade]

He's fighting the good fight whereas I just make stuff up to answer questions about "best" stuff now

[reef basin]

You don't need to permanently automate ammo. You come, drop off farmed stuff, take ammo, the dropped stuff gets processed to more ammo for next visit 🤷

[crude canyon]

i just use coupons for those

[glacial drum]

Meh I’ve got everything I need to make it might as well

[warm finch]

Never mind, I missed the stuff after, carry on with the good fight, I was being snarky

[pastel surge]

That's what I do

I don't even use that much ammo so it's fine

[glacial drum]

My old RF plant left a good 1-2 m^3 of RF per min over so I packaged it and nowadays I have 5+ indy cargos full

[unkempt blade]

all recipes are equally best except for cast screws (and biocoal and some others) that are bester than others

[glacial drum]

With my new plant I don’t make excess. I think converting the old excess whenever I need some jetpack fuel could work for the rest of my run

[wanton cloud]

why am i even arguing on which recipe should be used or not

its not like i can get money outta that

[unkempt blade]

The answer is always the one that uses the most screws. It's not rocket science

[reef basin]

I'm not arguing about "should be used", but about "has a use"

Whether or not you ise it is up to you, but if you don't use a recipe, it doesn't make it objectively useless

[wanton cloud]

so it is not a one side argument, but both sides are arguing on another thing?
a 4d 2 sided argument, paradoxical

[wanton cloud]

i said im NOT gonna argue

[unkempt blade]

What's there to argue about? It's just facts

[warm finch]

They're messing with you.

[reef basin]

My only problem is with the word "objective" used to describe your opinion

[reef basin]

Me? Not at all

[wanton cloud]

i don't see any issue there

[warm finch]

I'm referring to factory cart.

[unkempt blade]

I would never joke about alt recipes. This game is serious business

[wanton cloud]

oh yeah they can go "screw" themselves.
see what i did there

[crude canyon]

I think some times we gotta pull our inner sun tsu and give specific advice for certain people
"Yes, newbie, try getting rid of screws as much as you can"

[unkempt blade]

I just might

[warm finch]

Do something about your spaghetto first please

[hollow hemlock]

I wish we had more parts like screws that cause disproportional aggravation

[crude canyon]

yeah, he really deserves a crown doesn't he

[crude canyon]

quickwire

[wanton cloud]

didn't get to that yet

[unkempt blade]

you shouldn't use quickwire because you need those cat ingots to make more gold factory carts

[warm finch]

But seriously @wanton cloud, @reef basin is extremely knowledgeable and well versed on the game. Greeny has tons of game knowledge to drop, it's always worth listening to what they're sharing.

[crude canyon]

caterium saves you from using up a lot of resources
However, the quickwire amount you need is pretty big

[warm finch]

Just add water

[jaunty jewel]

tell that to the 47 constructors of screws i built for rotors and reinforced plates

[warm finch]

Only 47? Those are rookie numbers lol

[crude canyon]

are those using iron or steel rods? or steel beams

[hollow hemlock]

time for steel screws to save the day there

[jaunty jewel]

for my initial rip and rotor production mind you

[wanton cloud]

i know i just have an irrational bias against those 2 recipes because i was told that they should fuck themselves when i first asked about them

[crude canyon]

steel rods are so much more efficient, but it's a shame there's very little reason to use them

[jaunty jewel]

my save is an absolute mess atm i have caterium oil and coal power down but i havent finished iron yet

[warm finch]

I made a dedicated screw factory on my first save. I made something like 3200 screws/min lol

[jaunty jewel]

i have 2 trains down too

[jaunty jewel]

i see no need to make more screws than i currently am thankfully

any other possible need for them will be negated through alts

[warm finch]

Depends on what your goals are

[crude canyon]

man, I wish I had more uses for factory carts

[jaunty jewel]

trust me i will not need them

actually theres a small chance i use them when i start nuclear nvm

[warm finch]

For example if you want high HMF/min production, screws it is!

[reef basin]

Yeah that's a bad advice for newbies

[feral jay]

Nope I always use stiched plates

[jaunty jewel]

no, its heavy encased frames

[feral jay]

yes that

[pastel surge]

Bro I just looked at phase 5 recipes

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[jaunty jewel]

heavy encased frames is one of the only recipes in the game that i can say with full confidence is the best avialable recipe for it (shut up with your "needs" you are coping)

[feral jay]

Phases 1-4 are basically the tutorial

[warm finch]

Only if you're close to oil and have strong rubber production along with a power grid to support it.

[jaunty jewel]

why would i waste rubber like that

[reef basin]

Flexible ftw

[crude canyon]

i tried the flexible one
but it still needs copious amounts of modular frames

[pastel surge]

Ikr

[reef basin]

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