satisfactory

[indigo kiln]

I regret where I put them

Unlocking steel has made me regret a lot of choices I've made

[barren wraith]

Real

[whole drum]

Yeah, you can move them without worrying about much. Only concern would be is if you're relying on the attached burners for anything.

[tender ferry]

Ah great, So I am guessing I have a common problem and its that my mind is not able to grasp everything in this game lol. I just reached T4. Understand more or less the "process". Have read and watched tons of videos and guides etc but I keep coming back to 1 issue. Progress. I have been following the Milestones/Tiers and am now producing modular frames and smart plating, I only have a "unoptimized" factory for this running. Apart from that, I have a copper site and coal site, waiting to be also set into production lines, but I am going about this completely wrong as in trying to achieve an end goal while only just scratching the surface. I have difficulties with setting up something, optimize in, because I am wondering what when I unlock part x and Y next and all precious is not sufficient anymore 😄 Dont know how to really put it but I am like trying to find at least some kind of approach in like: setup factory x which does this, setup factory y which does this. Or: (mega style) bring everything to this spot setup this many smelters etc.. I know thats kind of against the sandbox but without it it feels Im locked.. Dont know if Im putting it out clear

[jagged fjord]

i aint reading allat

[green fiber]

I read allat and i still dont get it

[tender ferry]

I guess Im just looking for a certain approach lol and Im not finding it haha

[whole drum]

Do not attempt a megafactory until you have a very firm grasp of the game.

[green fiber]

You can do it however you want really, everyone has their own playstyle

But yes megafactories are not that simple

[unkempt blade]

I spaced out before finishing but the answer is probably that you're not using enough factory carts

[green fiber]

Without a clear plan it will end in chaos

[leaden turret]

🌈 line breaks and paragaphs ftw 🌈

[frosty bloom]

@tender ferry Just make one item at time. Start from that. Increase to the production if needed. If your problem is "what to do".

[green fiber]

Better to make something poorly then to not make it at all

You can make a new, better factory next time

[whole drum]

This. Just start by automating everything you can and sending it to a storage box you can easily access (ideally near other boxes). When you unlock DDs, you won't need to continue storing them this way, but early on it's helpful.

[feral jay]

w00t just finished up my heavy frames factory, 20/min

[tender ferry]

And when doing the 1 item approach. Do you just like drop the end item in the storage container and later when required moved it to the next factory where its required?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah progress > perfect while you're learning stuff. Also use more factory carts

[covert quarry]

i'm ar around your level and advice i can give is, don't rush do the opposite. Now i have overkilled so much that i built like 100 industrial storage containers for 1 factory which i don't even need that much. But now i never run into the problem of running out of something. And if i do, 10 seconds and i have what i need. I also recommend try finding multiple nodes next to each other or building on atleast normal nodes. This way you can easily craft everything that requires iron or copper etc. all on 1 big factory

[prime jasper]

I eventually gathered the last wonder star to finish my FICSMAS tree. Adn it seems the research is gone today? Do i actually need to finish the ficsmas tech tree for the ficsmas achievement "..Satisfactory brought it back - Complete all MAM research trees."?

[frosty bloom]

To this, yes use containers, if your production lines aint fully 1:1, and are more than that, you get to some spare items. You can bring new items to your main base if you so choose to, or you can bring raw materials to your base. Up to you.

[covert quarry]

does jetpack only run on biofuel?

[tender ferry]

Thanks all, this is exactly what I was looking for

[whole drum]

Any packaged fuel

Including Solid BF

[covert quarry]

which is better right?

[feral jay]

It runs on all the fuels, if you look on the player configuration screen (tab screen), there's a little gear icon you can click to change the preferred fuel

[covert quarry]

fr? thanksss

[frosty mirage]

The point is not to worry too much. Im at T4 too, my factories are a mess. I set up a factory with kinda good efficiemncy but then i realized i have to build more to it.. because of the progress. So yea, take it easy, knowledge will come

[whole drum]

Early on, many players prefer Liquid Biofuel due to it's very long burn time.

[covert quarry]

is it smth that needs to be unlocked?

[whole drum]

Yeah

[covert quarry]

great thanks

[solid lotus]

Guys i finally figured out how to use satisfactory tools💪

Also is it normal to wanna completely destroy your factory?😭

[whole drum]

Probably, but it's polite to only destroy your own.

[solid lotus]

I am STRESSING rn. I just got to steel production and currently only have resource lines. Ive spent 10 hours building a factory and now I dont like the design🫩

[white dawn]

Liquid Biofuel and Turbofuel are both in Phase 3 (Tiers 5+6); they're both quite good in the jetpack. I tend to keep a stack of both around and switch depending on what I'm doing. LBF is the undisputed king for long-range horizontal gliding, but I personally find Turbofuel a bit nicer while building factories -- the ascent is quite a bit faster (though LBF can technically get higher on a single "charge"). Regardless of fuel, make sure you're tapping the thrust button instead of holding it down. That'll make the fuel charge last a lot longer no matter what fuel you're using

[white dawn]

It's very common for people to feel like tearing down and redoing their original factories. Remember that you don't actually need to -- you could just leave that stuff as it is and build new factories elsewhere, instead

It's often quite handy to have your previous factories still there and producing stuff, even if you've "abandoned" them

[whole drum]

This is why it's not generally advised to bring all the resources to a base and then build. Just build what you want near the resources it requires.

!wikisearch independancy

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independancy

[white dawn]

Remember that it's a huge map with a lot more resources on it than people realize. Expansion is highly recommended (and encouraged by the game!) so building smaller factories all over the map is often a great way to play regardless

[covert quarry]

tbh further is more important than higher, thank you 🙂

[solid lotus]

That leads to me having to move further away and I dont feel like having conveyors going over 1000m away🙄

[covert quarry]

are all the nodes on the same locations for everyone,

[white dawn]

Yeah, personally I don't like belting any more than like 200m. :D Anything longer and I tend to use vehicles or other logistics options

[solid lotus]

Would trucks be worth it? I heard there to buggy.

[white dawn]

Yep, the only thing randomized on the map is some of the resource deposits (ie: the ones you hand-chip away at which disappear)

[whole drum]

The map is static, yes

[soft marsh]

Easiest way for me was to set little goals. Build little factories that do X. As i started building all these little factories, it got easier to build the bigger ones

[white dawn]

I personally use tractors all the time, though I admit I don't use trucks much. They're not buggy per se, but a lot of folks don't take the time to learn how to use them "properly"

Once you know how to work with them they're 100% reliable. I generally have quite extensive tractor networks by the time I'm through with Phase 2

[soft marsh]

Also - modules.

[white dawn]

But there's definitely a learning curve. I think a lot of folks run into problems and just don't want to take the time to figure out how the system works, so vehicles end up with a bad name

[solid lotus]

Tractors i meant. Sorry the ones in tier 3

[white dawn]

(Much earlier on in the game's Early Access period there were some occasionally-severe vehicle pathing problems which could frequently lead to deadlocks, but those have been sorted for years now)

[solid lotus]

Is it worth making roads for them or just having them drive on the natural terrain?

[covert quarry]

well what i did is 3 minors connected to 3 foundry's then i used 2 truck stations and connected them to each other to get an equivelant amount of coal, made the routes and then i used 6 constructors, 3 for beams and 3 for rods and i also have another route for regular steel ingots, now it's just getting somersloops for them. It's not that hard and stell is something you will need a lot of

[white dawn]

My own vehicle advice, fwiw (big paste incoming!) --

1. Use the map's "natural" roads! Vehicles work great on them. That limits your route selection, but it's worth it. Only build your own roads if you really want to.
2. Recording "good" routes takes practice! Drive slowly if you need to, make wider turns than you think you need to, stick to "lanes" with your traffic, and try to avoid head-on collisions with routes
3. Don't bother manually loading/unloading while recording. When a vehicle arrives at a station, the station will do whatever it's configured to do.
4. Don't try and reverse while recording; vehicles don't handle it well. "Drive through" stations are ideal.
5. Vehicles will stop at any station they pass through! Make sure your stations are separated enough.
6. Stations transfer at 2 stacks per minute; you can edit the yellow pause node to adjust how long vehicles stay there.
7. After recording a route, check it for blue pause nodes and delete them if you see them. There's a bug related to those.

[white dawn]

see ^ 😄

(the blue "pause" nodes on recorded routes are buggy, yeah, so I suppose there's at least one legit bug with them. :D)

[covert quarry]

is ther like a website or anything with a view of the map? been trying to find the perfect location for a nobelisk factory an other essential weapons

[zenith sage]

Huh.. I have 12 000 pillars in my save 👀

[white dawn]

SCIM - https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map (full map spoiler, so beware if you don't want that!)

[covert quarry]

ps: when using vehicles, don't have 2 routes close to each other to avoid deadlocking it's really annoying

[solid lotus]

Thank you so much!

[covert quarry]

appreciate it 🙂

[solid lotus]

Would you guys suggest having small factories by certain resource nodes?

[white dawn]

So long as you path carefully so that you don't have more than 90° intersections, I've literally never seen deadlocks in a long time. I frequently have pretty busy "highways" since I like building Central Storage still, and I've never had problems with it since the vehicle revamps in Update 5 or 6 or whenever that was

If vehicles do get stuck at any point, they should automatically just magically teleport to the next node before too long

[white dawn]

That's my usual advice, yeah, though it's just one way to play

[zenith sage]

If it cuts down on the amount of stuff you need to transport, absolutely

[violet brook]

how do I set a keybind to multiple inputs? I want to bind hotbar switch to M4 + scroll up/scroll down

[white dawn]

I think it was linked-to just recently, but my general advice tends to be "Independency" -- https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency. Basically, each factory goes from ore->product right near the nodes that are convenient, and once the factory's done, it's done. If you ever need more of that resource, you just make more right inside the new factory you're building

As you get later in the game your "factories" will often end up needing to be somewhat geographically dispersed. Like you might have a sub-factory making oil products near the oil nodes, which gets shipped off to the rest of the factory. But if you stick to Independency, those would sort of be dedicated sub-factories. You could still think of it as being one big "isolated" factory since it doesn't share products with any other factory

Again, just one way to play, of course, and won't be everyone's cup of tea. IMO it solves a lot of problems that newer players frequently run into, though

[zenith sage]

It's funny how early game I thought I'm gonna be expanding factories all the time... I haven't once expanded an existing factory in 160h

[solid lotus]

My idea is having basic resources made into certain things (iron into rods/plates, copper into wire/sheets) then have it transported to a bigger factory to make more advance stuff (rotors/smartplating/ reinforced iron plates) would that be a smart idea?

[covert quarry]

yea i redid my routes like 10 times, trains work the same way right?

[covert quarry]

fr its so nice that they do

[white dawn]

I wouldn't recommend doing that, no. But feel free to do it if you want! For me, as I say, I tend to stick to Independency. Any factory which needs rods/plates/wire/sheets just makes it right there right inside the new factory. My own "Wire" factory only actually exports to my personal storage (for my own build-gun use)

So you end up making the same material potentially dozens of times across the map, but that way you're making exactly what you need, you've got far fewer logistics to worry about, and you've got the opportunity to make use of a ton of different alt recipes depending on where the factories are put

[solid lotus]

Ohhhh so having specific resources made in specific factories?

[white dawn]

Yeah, that was one of the big improvements in the big Vehicle Update (I forget which update it was). Prior to that, they'd just get stuck forever

[unkempt blade]

an excellent excuse for a global train network

[white dawn]

That link I sent to the wiki about Independency probably explains it better than I am, but yeah, basically each of my factories only exports to my own "personal" storage. Each goes from ore->final product and then it's done; I never touch it again. If any other factory needs that resource, it just gets made right inside the new factory. :)

[white dawn]

I'm surprised to see you advocating for trains!

[unkempt blade]

all vehicles are beautiful some are just more beautiful than others 😄

[frosty bloom]

Well trains are the best, and coolest thing in the game.

[white dawn]

Honestly the mindset of Independency's "once a factory is built it's done forever and you never touch it" is one of the biggest "wins." A lot of folks get stuck in endless expansion/revamp loops, and it can be a recipe for burnout IMO. You end up having to spend so much effort just to retrofit stuff you've already built, otherwise

Although as usual: if you're enjoying expanding/revamping/rebuilding factories then absolutely go for it! I think a lot of folks just don't realize that it's a choice, not a necessity. :)

[torn void]

Oh man, my kid is an hour away from finishingh FICSMAS and presents stopped being producted already. What a bummer. Thought today was the last day, not yesterday.

[white dawn]

As a bandaid, you can just set your PC's clock back a few days. The event's based on your local time

[frosty bloom]

If i remember correctly, it ends at 00:00 at your time local time

[white dawn]

I believe there's also a mod which just lets you keep the event active whenever you want, if you're willing to use mods

[torn void]

It's 1500 on 1/18 here. I thought we had the day. I sent him to bed instead of finishing it last night. Meltdown.

[unkempt blade]

I think there are several at this point. I've used the mod route to keep it enabled

[white dawn]

Well, regardless, some quick fiddling with your PC's date/time or mods should be able to re-enable it for ya. :)

[torn void]

Ok, great tips. Trying to triage the situation. Dude put so much work into this. He's only 4.

[frosty bloom]

Geez if i´d had this game when i was 4...

[torn void]

We didn't "leave it to the last day", this is just how long it's taken him. 😄

I don't exactly understand why presents have already stopped though, since it's 15:00 on 1/18. End should be more clear.

[green fiber]

At least it teaches math so thats something positive

[torn void]

It teaches quite a lot of things, actually. I'm surprised he took to it.

[whole drum]

I would have loved this game at his age. I was huge on Legos as a kid.

[covert quarry]

i'm currently using coal power plants (phase 2), will future power sources also require water?

[frosty bloom]

My point exactly. Would have loved more games like these, Satisfactory, Shapez, etc. The "most" educating, or so was Transport Tycoon. I did enjoy Diablo 1 for english skills, and some social on internet.

[unkempt blade]

It's pretty forgiving as far as factory games go but that's still impressive he's making it through progression stuff at that age

[whole drum]

Ye

[torn void]

We're just struggling through fluids now... oil is upon us. Not very kid friendly. I co-op into the game to keep the lights on from far away.

[green fiber]

Teaching a 4 year old fluid dynamics.... yeah thats gonna be hard

Especially SF fluid dynamics

Where even adults sometimes throw tantrums

[whole drum]

[torn void]

Yea, even figuring out a few "ground rules" to keep it working is hard with this, but building out over the ocean / void seems to work. He got a single fuel plant up.

[cunning glade]

How do y'all go about like doing the outside and decorating ur factorys like rn I just have the floors and machines but no walls really

Just kinda curious people's process as I'm gonna need too start doing that

[green fiber]

I slap together more and more decorations and see what works.

[torn void]

Hilarious. Setting the date back on the computer 2 days worked. He'll never notice. You guys saved FICSMAS.

[green fiber]

I tend to vary materials and see which combo i like

[jagged fjord]

ficsmas seems to still be avalible on console

[green fiber]

You can always use CTRL and replace a wall with another wall type, like windows

[fluid crow]

I'm sure everything on your computer will like that

[whole drum]

Just make them all into perfect concrete cubes with no discernable features from the exterior and no way to enter without deconstruction.

[cunning glade]

I see

Cuz like I'm probs gonna beat the game this way and then go back and make the factorys look good

[proud gorge]

I just took 6 hours to get 4 smart-plating/m into my space elevator. Am I cooked?

[cunning glade]

I do kinda wanna do this for computers but make it computer shaped and colored

[whole drum]

The next 4/m will only take half hour

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message how do I get this ?

[cunning glade]

As in like since u started the game or since u started working on smart plating

[whole drum]

You progress your milestones/phase more and unlock it

[proud gorge]

Since I started this save

[cunning glade]

That ain't bad

Everyone works at a different pace

[rugged jasper]

okay 🙂 thank you

[keen vault]

after 2 days… finally on 800/100 smart plating and 600/1000 vers framework 😭

[fluid crow]

the framework may be worth spending some time

[oak nymph]

I had like 1/min

[indigo kiln]

Is there a way to place the railing that is on the industrial walkways?

Never mind I didn't scroll far enough in the shop

Mmmmm

Too long

[void cliff]

do you guys ever just pull elevator part components from the DD, put them in containers feeding machines that make the elevator parts? Seems like the quickest, laziest way to get through like phase 3-5 anyway

[jagged fjord]

all the time

[indigo kiln]

I have slow as balls spaghetti feeding my elevator right now

[jagged fjord]

just dont try to do it for the nuclear pasta's copper powder

[void cliff]

I made a dedicated copper plant for that, pretty simple, actually, lol

[jagged fjord]

yeah its really easy

its just a lot

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[frosty mirage]

The tool calculator doesnt account for miner power, right?

[drowsy kelp]

Going into detached camera mode to get a look around for enemies only to turn around and see your pioneer flying away from where you were due to a hog throwing a rock at you is definitely an experience

In other news i almost died

[fluid crow]

I deliver them with a factory cart

[void cliff]

single pure copper node @ 780 ore making pure copper bars makes 1950 bars, still plenty of bars left over after making powder

[covert quarry]

at what phase do you unlock time crystals?

[jagged fjord]

tier 9

[heavy pine]

OK, that appears to be all the FICSMAS gift-generating trees taken down.

[lament aspen]

hi

[peak wasp]

just remembered they have a help channel here, my bad, carry on

[barren tulip]

any projectile enemy is extra dangerous to fight with nob

[whole ermine]

did they change the sound of the oil extractor in 1.1?? or maybe ive just never heard it over the sound of the refineries

[drowsy kelp]

i didn't know the hog was even there

[barren tulip]

it do be like that sometimes

[drowsy kelp]

i was rifling the hatchers before looking around for other stuff to shoot

then i notice my pioneer flying away from the power tower i was on

i had to quickly react to avoid landing on more enemies

jetpack is amazing

[grizzled lotus]

for those who've crunched numbers, can normal packaged fuel work for drones regardless of distance?

[frosty mirage]

How do i use the awesome sink?

[drowsy kelp]

plug in power and anything you toss in it, no matter how fast, will be shredded

the belt input's on the front

[near siren]

how do you get blue prints for the desighner i have the mile stone completed for mk2 blueprints

[drowsy kelp]

you make them

[kind spade]

how can i get my death chest from the void im in early game

[drowsy kelp]

are you sure the death chest is actually down in the void

[kind spade]

right at the edge

i died due to the void

[near siren]

yea i have been trying to figure it out but im either thick asf or.... well actually just thick i think

[grizzled lotus]

the blueprint designer doesn't actually give you blueprints. it's actually a space where you can build stuff, then save the blueprint, so that whenever you need it it's only one button away, so it cuts down time for building factories. A good example of this is building a splitter attached to 3 smelters connected to a constructor. If you do this a lot, it can get annoying. If you build it in the blueprint designer, you can then save the blueprint, and build it anywhere as long as you ahve the materials. With a button.

[tranquil zinc]

how many drone ports I need to roughly equal the throughput of a train?

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[nova ridge]

#screenshots message im having a lot of tr0ouble with this. it keeps trying to connect from the bottom even tho theres already a pipe there

[drowsy kelp]

depends on the distance and how many train cars/drones there are per station/port

[tranquil zinc]

just need a rough estimate, cause I just spent this week designing my first train network and failing (aesthetic purposes). Trying to see if its worth it to just skip to drones

[near siren]

omg

lol i feel like such an idiot lol i was looking for blue prints

[grizzled lotus]

lol don't worry, some of the stuff in this game is vague so it's natural not to know what they do

[frosty nimbus]

hey guys Im having an issue with my game. My friends cannot join my world and I was looking at my account info and it says <missing array entry> under platform

is there any way to fix this?

[whole drum]

I made a 10/m RIP build that is fully enclosed in its own building with just an input for iron ore and an output to collect the plates

[whole drum]

Are you on the same platform?

[frosty nimbus]

yes

we are running a mod to extend the player limit on singleplayer worlds

but I dont think that would cause this much of an issue

[whole drum]

Everyone has the mod?

[frosty nimbus]

yes

[zenith sage]

Is the swamp really fully infested with spiders? I kinda avoided it fully till now 😅

[frosty nimbus]

yes

Its really bad

[whole drum]

It's infested with everything, but the Pioneer has the technology to dominate all manner of flora and fauna.

[zenith sage]

I'm really tempted to just wait until I can nuke the place before going in

[feral jay]

Too many cats

[whole drum]

It looks like you'll need to Google it. I'm not finding anything definitive, so you'll have to play around with fixes that worked for others.

Make sure everyone is fully up to date with game and mod versions as well

[spare cradle]

#screenshots message Just vibing for some motors to produce.

[whole ermine]

why do you need 201 power tower mk1

208*

[unkempt blade]

to move power around

[spare cradle]

For a lovely ~1.0million MWH :3

[whole ermine]

you use power towers in your power plants?

[spare cradle]

I was going to use it as a bootstrap for my turbofuel gen, but am using it as a buffer and excess for my ~22/min Motor factory. The closest/easiest other coal gen spot is across the map.

[unkempt blade]

doesn't everyone?

[whole ermine]

are you talking about power towers. power poles, or power storage?

[spare cradle]

It's power storage

[unkempt blade]

yes

[whole ermine]

it says power towers in your screenshot

[spare cradle]

It's just a blueprint I have called Power towers

[whole ermine]

confusing for my peanut brain

[spare cradle]

Has 6 power storages per layer, and has 2 layers rn

[unkempt blade]

I have one of those too #screenshots message

[spare cradle]

Nice

[whole ermine]

most of my blueprints are named something along the lines of "adssda" or "thing"

[clear mesa]

time to place the adsssa next to the waddasad so my daduiofhgsf will finally work

[whole ermine]

true

[spare cradle]

I have a naming scheme for my blueprints

[whole drum]

Mine are just descriptions of what they do, lol

• RIP 10-m (because you can't use '/' in names)
• Mk3 x3
• Mk4 x2
  etc

[spare cradle]

It is either [Input]--[Output] or xIxO. Otherwise it's just what it is

[clear mesa]

As long as I can tell what it is 🤷‍♂️

[zenith sage]

I've killed like 50 nuke hogs today...

[unkempt blade]

yeah I use too many BPs to not actually name them something sane

[spare cradle]

I have an entire location for blueprints

Aka where I design them. Guess that it's called.

[clear mesa]

The blueprint location....

[stray creek]

anyone notice that the nucular power plants use 600000 liters of water a minute

[spare cradle]

"Designery"

[clear mesa]

I like your name better I guess 🤔

[zenith sage]

Ngl, I actually do like how camo spitters actually actively try to blend in with the environment

[clear mesa]

camo spitters?

[spare cradle]

Comes with a lil Ficsit shopping and ticket retrieval. + More later

[spare cradle]

I would probably say red forest critters

[clear mesa]

huuuuh

oh

no they mean the forest variant

nvm there's a red one too

my favourite one's probably the blue one

[clear mesa]

I need to make my world have more cute little areas like these 😞

[feral jay]

A real world plant draws about 10,000,000 a minute and evaporates about 100,000, if my calculations are correct. Since we can't actually return the water to the ocean, that number is pretty close to real world numbers

We just pretend we're returning it

[zenith sage]

Those green buggers

[feral jay]

Elite gas stingers

[spare cradle]

Ew, smack em 6 times with the swatter

[feral jay]

psht I just use guided bullets, because the entire concept is frreaking awesome

Spray and pray baby

[spare cradle]

I have the rifle ... But I'm out of ammo :p

[native crown]

I finally got nuclear power up and running!

[feral jay]

They take 3 clips or so

[whole drum]

I honestly prefer regular rifle ammo for most targets. Homing is great for tougher things like rad hogs and green spiders.

[spare cradle]

My plan is to maybe stock on the turbo ammo one. Haven't tested em but am ok at aiming

[whole drum]

But once I have hover pack, cluster nobs are king.

[unkempt blade]

I like the turbo ammo if you just flutter the trigger. It's way too inaccurate when you hold it

[feral jay]

Turbo ammo is great for killing beans

[clear mesa]

i'd prefer regular ammo at that point

[spare cradle]

Like why would you?

[whole drum]

Turbo Ammo isn't that amazing. The spray gets too wide with sustained fire and it doesn't seem like it even accurately registers each shot on full-auto.

[unkempt blade]

bigger clip 🙂

[spare cradle]

... It does have a bigger one? That just means you don't have to reload longer.

[whole drum]

Even at super close range, at max fire rate it doesn't seem to hit that often.

[near nacelle]

is there a guide on building nuclear either with a blueprint maker or a webite explaining how to build it

[whole drum]

Honestly, Turbo Ammo is best against hatchers since it can stun-lock them and you only need slow, paced fire to kill them. The large magazine is nice for killing many in succession.

Nothing beats one-shotting rad hogs or green spiders with a well-placed cluster nob, though.

[unkempt blade]

what about booping them off a cliff with the boombox?

[whole drum]

That is cool, but I usually don't even get the boombox.

[frosty mirage]

Anyone know how to save a blueprint? Just unlocked blueprints but idk how to save one

[unkempt blade]

sacrilege!

[feral jay]

The interface kinda sucks tbh

[whole drum]

Use the BP designer console

[frosty mirage]

How do I do that and what is it?

[feral jay]

!wikisearch blueprint_designer start with that

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=blueprint_designer+start+with+that

[feral jay]

wtf

[clear mesa]

lmfao tracks everything past that

[feral jay]

!wikisearch blueprint_designer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=blueprint_designer

[feral jay]

bad bot

[frosty mirage]

Oh so i gotta build it

Lol

[clear mesa]

ye, anything u build within the confines of the designer you can then save as a blueprint

[feral jay]

Yeah blueprints in this game are made "in the lab", so to speak

[near siren]

thanks alot for clearing that up i finally made my new train bridge

[frosty mirage]

Okay, this clears it up

[covert quarry]

i have a stupid question, i produce 150 iron ingots a minute but i need an input of 250. if i remove some power slugs, would my produtcion be faster?

[frosty mirage]

I thought i just copy an already done design and save it as a blueprint

[frosty mirage]

Would have been awesome

[clear mesa]

nope, has to be built within, as you progress you'll unlock higher tiers of the designer which will be bigger and allow you to build bigger bleprints

[feral jay]

No, your production would be slower without the slugs/shards

(assuming you overvlocked the machines they're in)

[covert quarry]

even if i underproduce? thx

[covert quarry]

i did

[frosty mirage]

Damn, just built the designer, takes up a shitload of space

[feral jay]

Yeah then removing the shards will reset the clock rate to 100%

[clear mesa]

haha yeah it does

[unkempt blade]

and they get bigger later

[heavy pine]

What does the game do if you try to place a blueprint that contains buildables that you don't have unlocked, e.g. Mk.6 belts?

[unkempt blade]

unless something changed you just don't see those BPs until you have all the components unlocked

[feral jay]

Turns the hologram red and bitches at you becuase you don't have enough materials

[heavy pine]

Good to know. I should've made some of my FICSMAS blueprints with lower-tier belts in case I decide to start over next time.

[frosty mirage]

4x4 foundation for now... i guess it can help like this also

[feral jay]

If you can move some files around, you can open them in creative mode and replace the belts and resave them

[heavy pine]

I'd probably have to use a FICSMAS-all-year mod too.

[clear mesa]

correct me if im wrong but cant you just change the date on your pc

[feral jay]

I have a few belt balancers I recently did that with that used Mk.6 belts from a previous save

[feral jay]

You can but that will also break HTTPS, which basically breaks the Internet

[heavy pine]

Or maybe not, the game does let me place blueprints with the FICSMAS recipes set.

[clear mesa]

ye but you'd only keep it that way long enough to replace a few belts :p

[zenith sage]

I'm soooo done with poison cats...

[unkempt blade]

just pet them with your basher

[lone echo]

I love how cinematic this game is

[feral jay]

Dammit I need to kill ANOTHER bean

This one didn't deserve it

[tired cypress]

I had to kill one because it didn't know how to get out of the way

[feral jay]

That last one made eleven this save

They keep getting int the way

[barren badger]

haiyo!!!

[frosty mirage]

Manual crafting can be so helpful, lol. Found a sulfur node but it has a rock on it and I didnt het the nobelisk detonator yet, so i built a mam, craft bench and equipment shop, dropped a few portables on the node and did the sulfur research in mam up until the zipline 🤷🏾‍♂️

[barren badger]

zipline...?

sulfur node with a rock..?

[frosty mirage]

Oh sorry

[barren badger]

i think you mean caterium

[frosty mirage]

Meant caterium

Been running between caterium and sulfur for the past 2 hours and mixed them up

[drowsy kelp]

why does the explorer still interact funky with exploded rocks now

it just got shoved off into the void and almost took me with it

[frosty mirage]

Is the game crossplatform? Can i play with people on pc if im on ps5?

[drowsy kelp]

uh i left and re-joined, hoping to fix the funky collision, and now i am on a random surface in the void in the second explorer i made after the first one went under

how do i get out

[fluid crow]

load auto save

[drowsy kelp]

server, no can do

i don't think i'm in the void, i think i'm underground inside a wall

i am

walls are double-sided so i couldn't just walk out but i was able to place foundations and a vehicle on the other side to get out

i also found my original explorer glitching around in a random crevice through the fog so got its resources back

[chrome kettle]

whats the best way to make a mall? i have production lines set up to create items but i dont want them to make 20+ stacks of wires. it doesn't seem possible to limit the number of spaces that a storage container can use, is there a different way?

[clear mesa]

storage containers are fairly cheap though

why would it be an issue?

[fervent dust]

hello folks, may i ask for help on how to obtain this one mercer sphere?

[hexed radish]

which one?

[fervent dust]

i posted a screenie in the screenshots channel

[chrome kettle]

i mean, i want the storage container to only contain at most 5 stacks of wires then stop producing so the resources can go to producing other items

[hexed radish]

can you not just swim and collect it?

[fervent dust]

no, it appears to be underground?

unless i'm blind

[clear mesa]

I mean I only see three work arounds

1. you wait until it fully fills up and does that anyways, just takes a while longer
2. you fill the other spots with 1 of another item
3. you hook it up to a dimensional depot instead of a storage container

[hexed radish]

hmmmm im not sure then, unless its in a cave below. if your using a map look at the altitude when you hover over it

[fervent dust]

indeed it says -45m, but i can't find any cave entrance nearby. i was hoping somebody would recognise the location from the screenshot

[clear mesa]

you'll be wanting wire pretty much all game...so i wouldn't do 2

[hexed radish]

you can filter the map to show cave locations

[fervent dust]

ah! didn't know that

[hexed radish]

hope that helps you out! some caves require certain things that go boom

[chrome kettle]

i see, yeah the DD seemed like it would work but is quite a bit into the tech tree so wanted a solution until then. i think #2 workaround will have to do, thanks

[fervent dust]

it did! thanks :3

[chrome kettle]

oh really? hmm, will have to let that one produce a full containers worth

[clear mesa]

yeah it's virtually something youll never stop needing

both for building and space elevator parts

[drowsy kelp]

Unless i’m seeing things i literally just collected that mercer sphere, it was on that quartz deposit in the center

[fervent dust]

there is indeed one there, although i had already collected it :>

[dusky panther]

ive been looking ast some factory designs and most of them use manifolds for splitters. I dont understand why these are efficient if you have 4 smelters, all needing 30 of an item. you have an input of 120 items. in a manifold, where each splitter halves the items the first smelter would get 60/ minute, the second would get 30/ minute and so on so the last one would always need items. Am i missing something?

[clear mesa]

First one receives 120/min, second receives 90/min, 60/min then 30/min

They do half yes but since it's always more than needed, it eventually clogs up and evens out

[fluid crow]

only until the first ones are full

[dusky panther]

oh that makes sense, sorry

[clear mesa]

Manifolds take a while to start up fully since the last one will initially receives less, but once the earlier machines fill up it will run as normal

saves you all the hassle of dividing annoying numbers though :p

[bleak hill]

hey quick question, how does one do the blueprint auto-connect thing?

[drowsy kelp]

It’s one of the build modes

[clear mesa]

r

[bleak hill]

ah, thanks

[bleak hill]

do i need to do something specific in the design of the blueprint? when i go to blueprint auto connect it still... wont

[clear mesa]

What're you trying to connect exactly

[bleak hill]

trying to have my constructor stacks auto-belt together

[frosty mirage]

I just unlocked dimensional depots. Does this mean i can access anything from them wherever i am?

[drowsy kelp]

Yes

[frosty mirage]

Damn thats awesome then

[clear mesa]

Make sure you have a belt or pipe coming out of the last splitter/merger for it to work

[drowsy kelp]

Conveyors can’t connect directly to splitters

[bleak hill]

ahhhh that's what im missing. Thanks!

[clear mesa]

There's a later upgrade where you can even deposit from anywhere :p

[drowsy kelp]

Figured that out the hard way, still haven’t re-built the repeatable building blueprints i made

[frosty mirage]

Even accessing is helpful, no need to run around the whole map for a frickin iron rod

[clear mesa]

just place them in your blueprint designer and u wont have to

[clear mesa]

yeah haha i rush the dimensional depot

[drowsy kelp]

The hardest part early on is your limited supply of mercer spheres

[bleak hill]

dimesnional depot is always my first bumrush unlock chain personally, maxing it out is highest priority for me

[clear mesa]

that and somersloops so i can get to doubling my power slug production

[bleak hill]

no better feeling than having all your construction materials on supply at all times

[clear mesa]

you have no idea how true this rings

[drowsy kelp]

Your inventory looks so much cleaner once you can stop carrying around piles of the essentials

[bleak hill]

i do. im doing my first megabuild lmao

[clear mesa]

no better feeling than putting every single building material on a depot

and running around like youre in creative

[clear mesa]

good luck, send pics when done!

[bleak hill]

i always build a factory dedicated just to feeding into the depot

[drowsy kelp]

That’s a good idea

I just tack on uploaders to whatever i can

[bleak hill]

well, "megabuild"

first build beyond my starter slab lmao, dedicated factory for space elevator parts (at phase 2 rn)

[clear mesa]

i just set them up to overflows honestly

[clear mesa]

it'll only get bigger from there

i assume it's not your first time anyways considering you rushed the mercer spheres

[bleak hill]

uhhh playing for the first time since 1.0, started playing at update 6, took a break until release at update 8, and now im here. 130 hours right now

[clear mesa]

I'd love to continue on my world but im swamped with assignments 😞

havent actually played in weeks

[frosty mirage]

Im also on my way to finish phase 2, need the frameworks and wiring still

[bleak hill]

one good thing about being unemployed is being able to spend all my time at my fake job pioneering lmao

(while doomscrolling indeed on monitor 3)

[clear mesa]

I miss the simplicity of phase 2

[outer musk]

Im getting into the late game and I wanna up my production line and stuff because currently its pretty inefficient. How should I go about getting materials arround the map? I havent unlocked drones yet But I was thinking maybe a massive ring of foundations circleing the map with trains going across it might work? Is that a bad idea?

[drowsy kelp]

Why a ring

[clear mesa]

I too miss the days of running that game into the 12 hour warning mark dont worry

[gloomy tusk]

Working on phase 4 (pre nuclear) and just hit 18 590 mw

[unkempt blade]

If you learned anything from Satisfactory it should be that you always automate your boring repetitive tasks. Just have AI do your assignments

[clear mesa]

nope that's a perfectly acceptable idea

[rain hollow]

I have finally gotten my power well above what I need to allow myself to have plenty of wiggle room for the time being

[bleak hill]

satiscracktory

[frosty mirage]

I rushed through tiers a bit, im only 42 hours into the game and im on hypertubes already

[clear mesa]

If I let AI handle my coding I'd end up with slop

[bleak hill]

artificial intellligence is for those who lack their own :p

[unkempt blade]

The MBAs of the world don't care if it's bad code. This is valuable knowledge to take into your work life

[clear mesa]

hehe...wait until you realise you can make hypercannons with those

[clear mesa]

Unfortunately I do 😞
I take pride in my work

[outer musk]

nvm cant send pictures lol

[clear mesa]

#screenshots

[unkempt blade]

that's your first mistake, it's just a way to put doritos and mountain dew on the table so you have energy for satisfactory

[clear mesa]

You're right...it's the equivalent to automating portable miners

Wasting valuable energy

[drowsy kelp]

If you have gigawatts to spare why not put a few megawatts into automating them

[outer musk]

I sent a ss of an area. Would that be a decent spot for a base so the rings could loop back? I dont know the map super well so idk

[clear mesa]

Honestly you could put your base anywhere and as long as you theoretically had enough trains it wouldn't even make a difference

[quasi warren]

i do that :P i upload em to the DD. makes my life easier

[rain hollow]

Is 2,000 megawatts enough for tiers 5 and 6?

[drowsy kelp]

2 gigawatts sounds a bit low

If it’s enough for you then it’s enough

[rain hollow]

Understood, I'll make more fuel generators

[gloomy tusk]

No

[clear mesa]

However that is in a corner of the map, I would put it a further in so things dont have to loop that far around and you wont have to compensate with a larger amount of trains

[gloomy tusk]

I needed roughly 10 giga watts

[rain hollow]

Cause I have 4 running at the max efficiency for 200% clock speed

[swift turret]

add 2 more 0's and it will be

[clear mesa]

I compared it to taking pride in your work so I suppose it's meant to be more of a good thing :p

[gloomy tusk]

You don’t need 200 gigs watts for tiers 5 and 6

[swift turret]

you're right you need more but its not feasible then

[rain hollow]

How many fuel gens should I have going at the max efficiency for 200% clock speed?

[quasi warren]

currently going HD hunting. made a new save

[gloomy tusk]

Oil or coal?

[rain hollow]

Oil, you can't make fuel with coal as far as I know

[gloomy tusk]

Wait I don’t understand what you are asking

[clear mesa]

biocoal and charcoal coming right up

[swift turret]

if you're going for T5 and T6 you should have turbo fuel making about 50k

[rain hollow]

Still trying to unlock turbo fuel in the MAM

[quasi warren]

I hope not T-T

[gloomy tusk]

This is not accurate

[rain hollow]

Need another hard drive

[gloomy tusk]

You barely need 10,000 mw to make it through

[swift turret]

that is accurate T5 and T6 is oil which you can unlock turbo pretty quickly

[gloomy tusk]

You don’t need 50k though

[quasi warren]

the world is beautiful. well, not untill i explode the trees LOL

[clear mesa]

Realistically you could beat the game on a whole lot less if youre patient enough....there's no set number

[swift turret]

yes you do

[rain hollow]

So I need twenty of them at 200% clock speed

[rain hollow]

Technically, yes.

[swift turret]

unless you're going for the bare minimum automation making 50k will last you until nuclear

[rain hollow]

Also does turbo fuel make more power or just last longer?

[clear mesa]

more power

[gloomy tusk]

I have 18k and am at nuclear?

[rain hollow]

Okay good

[swift turret]

so you're going for bare minimum automation. Good for you. not everyone plays like you

[rain hollow]

Luckily there's a spot with plenty of oil nodes I can use for power

[gloomy tusk]

No I’m not? I have every item currently automated

[clear mesa]

Im ngl 50k is crazy anyways, you can automate plenty with half that (at t5/t6)

[drowsy kelp]

A cliff hog was standing on my explorer’s wheel… and was still on it as the wheel was spinning

[rain hollow]

Is an impure oil node worth extracting for power? I assume so since without any over clocking on the refinery or extractor you can make a max of 500MWs just by increasing the clock speed of the fuel generator to 200%

[zenith sage]

Do trains go backwards? 🤔

[swift turret]

they can

[clear mesa]

if you're manually driving yes, if it's on autopilot you need to have another engine connected at the opposite end

[drowsy kelp]

That engine needs to be pointing the other way too

[clear mesa]

It automatically points the other way when you try to place the engine

[bleak hill]

i have a controversial opinion.

i can, and WILL kill the strange alien tick things at all opportunities

get the FUCK off my belts!!!!!!!!

[clear mesa]

If they're unlucky enough to get themselves stuck completely then yes 😞

[rain hollow]

They are annoying, especially for automated delivery via tractors when they get in the path

[zenith sage]

Ah, that's what I needed to know

[fluid crow]

you know what this game needs.. Train Kills!

[rain hollow]

What phase do I unlock uranium?

[indigo kiln]

Fell into a fucking hole, ore I've never seen before massive ass fucking spider, fucker was fast took 50 nuts but I'm alive and it's dead and I have my first Sam deposit lmao

[swift turret]

dont do that

hope that helps!

[indigo kiln]

Mmmm

Maybe next time

But now I have a goddamn mother or to get prepared I was getting my soul for line over to base lol

[fluid crow]

I know that hole

[zenith sage]

It's funny how SAM, hole and big ass spider make it totally obvious where exactly you are

[indigo kiln]

Lol

That was my first spider too lmao

I only have the basher that was a fun fight

[clear mesa]

It's natural progression to fall victim to it

Even better when you still dont know they can jump right out of it

[indigo kiln]

Oh Jesus the tiny spiders are fast

[zenith sage]

At this point I enjoy those basic big spiders cats, I only get heart attacks when green ones pop up

[indigo kiln]

I'll take your word for it I'm going to spend the next 30 minutes noodling my way up the wall

[fluid crow]

there should be another exit

[leaden matrix]

What do you guys do about conveyer limits?

I just built a small screw factory and the only thjng that seems to be limiting its output to 480 is my conveyors😭

[clear mesa]

you just route more than 1 output conveyor

[dense violet]

you always design around them, usually by making smaller sections that need fewer parts per min

[dense violet]

and with screws and wire, thign sthat typically need lots of ppm, build them right before they are consumed

[clear mesa]

yeah...a whole dedicated screw factory sounds like a logistics nightmare

[fluid crow]

2 screw belts

[near siren]

i finally got that blue print done 😄 yipppee #screenshots

[fluid crow]

you could move some of the screws by factory cart

[leaden matrix]

That makes sense, but building screws for everything (especially when i need a large amount like 120ppm) gets annoying so I decided to make a small dedicated factory for things in costal area :>

[zenith sage]

You could eliminate screws entirely too...

[unkempt blade]

where's the fun in that?

[zenith sage]

Some might consider keeping their sanity fun

[dense violet]

it's far less annoying just sending a few iron ingots to a handful of machines in the spot you need it than have tons of belts moving screws everywhere

you need like 4x the belt throughput to move the screws than the base items

[unkempt blade]

Screw recipes are so easy though. Especially if you use BPs

[brittle torrent]

wait did they disable the option to crossplay?? because in 1.0 when i played you could join the world of your friend via the session id

[indigo kiln]

Ooo sexy

[brittle torrent]

and it didnt matter ps5 to pc to xbox whatever

[indigo kiln]

I finally conquered that goddamn hole

[quasi warren]

i dont think console was out during 1.0

[clear mesa]

Yeah this game has never had cross play

[quasi warren]

i think controller support was, but not consoles itself

[brittle torrent]

maby im just tripping

maby i didnt play with a console palyer ever

lmao

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh i remember it was the drama how to crossplay from epic games to steam i remember

[leaden matrix]

Yeah that sounds about right ToT

I probably should've asked about this stuff before I did it but im like already like an hour into this, and it looks pretty with the moving parts and such😭

[unkempt blade]

PC games? In this RAMconomy?!?!

[quasi warren]

playing modded satis is so fun, currently farming wheat to turn into bread

[clear mesa]

It's made so much worse when you only ever need screws for one time craftables like equipment...not even useful for buildings

[brittle torrent]

what does that mean

[clear mesa]

Except like the shop I think?

[brittle torrent]

i should have bought ram in 2020

[leaden matrix]

IKKKKK, im working on phase 3 rn and its such a struggle

[swift turret]

2020 was 6 years ago

[dense violet]

treat the milestones as a tutorial 😉 you're just learning. Things will be terrible the first time yo udo it.

[fluid crow]

better go back to ddr4

[brittle torrent]

i should have bought the moon before it was discovered so i could build a mcdonalds drive through for the man on the moon

[clear mesa]

You can do it

[swift turret]

ddr4 is still vaid. Get 64gb and you got enough to last you a few years

[leaden matrix]

I like to think the whole games a tutorial, in the same way you should be a student of life, you should be a open minded factory worker :>

[clear mesa]

It's a tutorial until u unlock everything in a way really

[zenith sage]

I spent like 120h in that phase

[swift turret]

nah put a walmart. its better for the profit margins

[dense violet]

it also slowly drips you different things you need to manage later - Then when everything is unlocked you can just do your own projects rather than 'make X number of Y item for elevator'

[brittle torrent]

your profile picture tells me that your favorite time is 25:61

[leaden matrix]

I got here at 33 hours
Im at 60 smth starting on the last part soon

[swift turret]

why are you looking at my profile picture? THats breaking hippa

[brittle torrent]

i'm a stalker ||(stands for shit-talker)||

[swift turret]

im sure thats what you'll tell the judge

[brittle torrent]

thats actually a good wordplay

i made that up rn

lol

[brittle torrent]

im gonna invite the judge to a mc flurry on the moon drive through

[barren tulip]

maybe don't put hippa breaking info in publicly accessable places

[swift turret]

owning a mcdonalds actually sucks because you have to prove you have a million dollars and go to hamburger university

[brittle torrent]

did you watch rick and morty?

[unkempt blade]

what's that?

[swift turret]

sounds like you're breaking hippa

[brittle torrent]

in the series theres also a man on the moon and he steals kids

[zenith sage]

I think I spent like 30h just building the modular engine and the other thingy factories, but at least they were ready in 15 minutes after that

[swift turret]

thats the satisfactory way

[fluid crow]

totally all that time building stuff then it's prretty much over as soon as it's done

oh well use the parts later or throw them in the sink

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

YALL LFG

[tranquil zinc]

Do I need two train stations per location? Cause this train is giving me "station is unreachable" even though I can drive to there

[fluid crow]

make sure train stations facing the correct direction

[tranquil zinc]

they are

[plain hemlock]

What's the train's configuration

Unless the track loops it needs to be push-pull

[dense violet]

overhead images of your rail and stations in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

[leaden matrix]

The modular engine was one of the easier parts of me because I just resurrected my Smart plate factory

Then I already had rubber and motors so I just moved those over ^^

The adaptive control unit however

[trail falcon]

should i buy captain of industry or dyson sphere program

[warm finch]

To add to this, the game doesn't "truly" start until ttier 9/phase 5. Everything before that is a tutorial leading up to that point

[quasi warren]

Like how coal power is a introduction to fluids

[warm finch]

and how oil is an introduction to solid byproducts. and aluminum is an introduction to liquid byproducts

anyone have examples of using priority mergers effectively? or are they use case only?

[dense violet]

there's no system in the game that needs them. That's why they were such a recent addition with , from what I heard, someone in CSS actually saying there's no real reason to have them except people screaming about them

any example I've seen of people using them have been more complex hoop jumping design than not using them.

[unkempt blade]

they make more sense in factory games with finite resource nodes

[dense violet]

or even just inconsistent resource/production.
like factorio? yeah sure, I get it

[whole drum]

I've actually found a niche use for them

[dense violet]

if it's gonna be 'filling empty cannisters in a system'
that's a finite need and yo ucan just hand fill them

if it's bauxite waste water that's just an example of jumping through 10x the hoops as a non pmerg system

[warm finch]

Ok cool, I can't think of a use case scenario and my buddy asked about (new player). Figured I would ask here.

[dense violet]

you can always create situations and designs that need them - but all the ones I've seen more more complicated and more work. If that's something you like? sure. go for it

[feral jay]

I've used them once or twice. THey're not at all encessary, but they can make things a bit easier in very specific scenarios

[warm finch]

yeah I was thinking the same. Not worth trying to figure out a use case with a new player learning the game.

And I've learned the hard way in this game if you make something more complicated than it needs to be, it ends up breaking your production at some point lol

[unkempt blade]

I've mostly heard about them being used for feedback loop stuff but I never had problem doing those loops before priority merger was in the game either so 🤷‍♂️

[warm finch]

same

[dense violet]

people use them as a VIP replacement ... but there's simpler things yo ucan do that work reliably

[dense violet]

oh you can make complicated work just find. There's people who do single input sushi belts - but that's specifically going out and doing the hardest things you can

[whole drum]

They can be a tool for belt balancing that doesn't require you to do as much math about it. You can just have belts B and C flood belt A until it caps, with the prio-merger on A->A, while the splitter that floods from B->A or C->A is a smart splitter set to Overflow. You can repeat this until you have the minimum number of belts.

There are ways to design that you don't need to do this, but for the people who are mass producing ingots and trying to run them through their factories, it can help simplify it.

[quasi warren]

i still do not know how fluid pipes work.

[dense violet]

damn. if only you could clock machines and merge them as you needed
you wouldn't need to prio merge shit >.>

[warm finch]

Full pipes are happy pipes! Have you read the pipe manual?

[quasi warren]

there is a MANUAL?!

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images and what you're trying to do 🙂 theres almost always a very simple solution

[whole drum]

I did say it was a niche use, and your alternative assumes a lot about factory layout.

[warm finch]

my dear blessed child. head over to #math-and-meta and check pins.

[dense violet]

the manual has some good technical info but isn't a handbook you can easily use to fix systems

[warm finch]

While that is the case, it's a GREAT introductary explanation on how pipes work

[feral jay]

The manual is also out of date in some places

[whole drum]

The Manual still gets you a lot further than mere guesswork alone 😉

[feral jay]

Oh, for sure

[whole drum]

I do tend to caveat that the "advanced" stuff in the back of it isn't usually necessary for anything.

[dense violet]

I think a failing it has is that it has a bunch of examples of 'possible' mechanics you can try with buffers, junctions and such while not explicitly talking about simpler more reliable methods.
it's more a record of effects in that area

[quasi warren]

like, ik what headlift does and is used for, but sloshing? and EVERYTHING else? no clue.

[unkempt blade]

the manual doesn't even mention the fluid cartifold so I really question its usefulness

[dense violet]

again, make a post in #1038092680493801533 I can help take you through the basics 🙂

[quasi warren]

made a new save- so itll be a bit-

i wana stick to a save for once, instead of making a new one every month

[dense violet]

no stress, when you get to coal power main thing is to keep in mind pipe limits. Those are very easy though

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

some handy coal layouts for both beginners and experts

[whole drum]

Without going into too much detail about it, sloshing is a consequence of the fact that pipes flow both ways, so where there are inequalities between pipe segments, the liquids try to balance this out incrementally, and this disrupts flow rate.

[warm finch]

most basic explanation is - slosh=bad. Full pipes=no slosh.

[whole drum]

Technically, no. Practically, close enough.

[warm finch]

hence the words "most basic".

[whole drum]

But there are other ways to combat sloshing than just full pipes

[nocturne agate]

did a search to see if anyone had a solution here, but does anybody know what I can do to use a blueprint in a blueprint without getting the "Buildables in a designer cannot be connected" error?

[quasi warren]

so its like heat going to where there is no heat? tries to fill the lesser side

[feral jay]

Excexpt heat doesn't have momentum, and this game does model liquid momentum

[quasi warren]

oh no

[whole drum]

What people call "pressure"

[dense violet]

it's not as bad as all that. liquids just move to the most empty pipe section next to it

[worthy hatch]

oh no not thermodynamics class again

[whole drum]

It does tend to rule the universe, lol

[worthy hatch]

no, god does

[whole drum]

Everyone start praying to thermodynamics, I guess

[worthy hatch]

indeed

[warm finch]

I absolutely love 1.1. Some EXCELLENT additions to the game

[whole drum]

Conveyor lift splitters/mergers are definitely cool

[warm finch]

And wall belt holes! FINALLY! lol

[whole drum]

For sure

[quasi warren]

Steel is hell for me T-T i just do basic automation and i leave it be

[dense violet]

whats hard about it?

[quasi warren]

oil is just.. what

[whole drum]

Why is steel hard? It's just 1 + 1 = Steel

[quasi warren]

the Decimals

[zenith sage]

Wait till aluminum

[warm finch]

and the alt recipe for steel is even better

[quasi warren]

i use the iron ingot + coal = steel recipe

[warm finch]

NGL aluminum is my favorite

[whole drum]

Use better ratios

[warm finch]

that's even easier. It's STILL 1:1

[dense violet]

decimals are a figment of your imagination - they go away if you change the time unit you measure in and can completely go away with clocking

[quasi warren]

... i deadass forgot about overclocking

[stoic nebula]

can console and pc pc crossplay?

[native tapir]

No unfortunately

[dense violet]

just clockign in general, over or under. Makes ratios and decimals completely meaningless 🙂

[sweet light]

nope

[stoic nebula]

nooooooo

[native tapir]

Uhhhhh

[dense violet]

if something makes 3.24 parts per minute, it makes 324 parts per 100 minutes.

it's completely meaningless.

[warm finch]

example: you need 12.66 assemblers. Just put down 13 assemblers and underclock the last one to 66%. boom done.

[dense violet]

also if you measure by CYCLE I don't think any item is output with a decimal

[whole drum]

How are you getting decimals with this? It's 40 ingots + 40 coal = 60 ingots

[quasi warren]

making the steel itself isnt challenging. its the recipes after

steel beams, pipes, etc

[whole drum]

You either turn raw ingots into beams/pipes, or you add concrete and get beams/pipes...

[quasi warren]

... that makes my life so much easier

[quasi warren]

whats cycle-?

[warm finch]

streamline production chains after steel ingots. For example you can do encased beams with pipes instead

[whole drum]

Each completion of the recipe is a "cycle"

[dense violet]

I'll ping you in #math-and-meta

[warm finch]

prepare for a lecture. grab food and drinks

[quasi warren]

aight-\

[whole drum]

And recreationals...

[dense violet]

literally just 3 lines and an image xD

very straight forward but very clear xD

[warm finch]

boooo! I was having my fun lol

I know it's been a while, but we liked poking fun at each other

[quasi warren]

i have almost 500 hrs and i still know nothing apparently LOL

[warm finch]

1200+ and I'm STILL learning new stuff

[feral jay]

I already knew everything at 5 hours, speak for yourselves

Now I just know more of everything

[tranquil zinc]

I need to transfer coal (A) and copper (B) to my aluminum prod (c). Do I need two train stations in C? Cause I don't want to mix the materials in the freight platform

[dense violet]

there's benefit to being the straight man in jokes

[warm finch]

BTW @dense violet it's Math, not maths... 😝

[dense violet]

there's many maths subjects. So maths 😛

[warm finch]

Ok euro...

[dense violet]

No americanisms here

Australia atm actually

took me a bit to get used to maths too

[quasi warren]

huh-

i feel like im having a stroke reading all this XD

[tranquil zinc]

or do I need smart splitter?

[whole drum]

We don't need to know about your fantasies

[zenith sage]

I'm making my first sushi belt... weird feeling

[dense violet]

in Australia they just say Maths plural 🙂 that's it

[indigo kiln]

I hate steel

[dense violet]

you could have 2 platforms and work it out?

you could do it to the 1 platform if you have enough throughput

and you sort it after

[tranquil zinc]

so there is no way to like add more freight stations and have specific freight to unload there?

[warm finch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1462625833565814816

[feral jay]

My ficsmas trees stopped producing gifts! LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!

[warm finch]

what is it about steel tha tyou hate?

[warm finch]

uninstall game and leave discord server. bye.

[whole drum]

This would be the preferred method, imo. Each car gets dedicated resources that don't mix with other resources. Make sure the load/unload stations match on the other end if you want consistency (though this step is technically not required).

[feral jay]

I also demand a refund!

[whole drum]

I'm only at 800 hours. I should still be within the refund window, right?

[warm finch]

easier to have trains dedicated to moving specific products between stations

[tranquil zinc]

problem is two different locations, A will bring in coal, B will bring in Copper, all to place C

[whole drum]

Are A and B far enough apart that you can't just join them?

[tranquil zinc]

yes

[warm finch]

are you moving the raw material?

[whole drum]

Then just use block signals to ensure only one train at a time goes into the station, and let them alternate.

[tranquil zinc]

yes, problem is they will mix their goods on the freight/storage.

So better have 2 platforms then?

[whole drum]

That's what Smart Splitters are for

[tranquil zinc]

will there be throughput issues for the smart splitter?

[warm finch]

your cap will be belt speed

[whole drum]

Unload platform -> Smart Splitter to sort -> Smart Splitter to fill a box and Overflow into Sink. Done.

[mystic crag]

I took the picture finally

[whole drum]

The Sink overflow helps to ensure that you aren't getting too much of a bias of one material over the other that ends up blocking the other from unloading.

The beauty is that you can place the boxes on either side of the sink so they can both overflow into the same one, saving space.

[native tapir]

I would also like a refund as my game seems to be broken

[mystic crag]

You can see a huge difference between my current and first base

[indigo kiln]

The fact that my stockpile of reinforced plates isn't enough

I have zero left I need 300 more

[fluid crow]

omg there's a Easter egg tape with hunt down music, didn't know anyone had heard of that game

[quasi warren]

oh fr?

[gloomy tusk]

what picture?

no fucking way thats you only 80 hours in

[fluid crow]

called hunt down and the music sounds like it's from that game

[gloomy tusk]

im so bad in comparison and im 200+ hours into 1 save

[fluid crow]

is totally huntdown the game music

[quasi warren]

SAME

[mystic crag]

about 20 hours is just me on tiktok

[quasi warren]

AND U CAN BUILD THAT?

how.

[mystic crag]

Its gonna take 250 minutes to be done with this phase

how great

[gloomy tusk]

i have everything autmated but im playing like a factorio player 😅

[fluid crow]

oh Huntdown is from coffee stain that explains some stuff

[quasi warren]

.... im envious.

[gloomy tusk]

just leave it up while you sleep

[quasi warren]

i play factorio like i play satisfactory-

were swapped XD

[mystic crag]

Im gonna be playing marvel rivals in the meantime

But one video I liked when making these bases was how to make my splitters and ore elevators compact

[vale perch]

just take a nap lol

[whole drum]

Go farm spheres/drives

[vale perch]

what video?

[mystic crag]

I put it in #streams-and-videos

[indigo kiln]

My factory has four lines of 120 per minute iron ore going into it and I still feel like I'm not making enough reinforce plates

[wispy osprey]

I use compact stretched because it also matches building heights like industrial storage and conveyor wall holes

[warm finch]

have you tried using an alt recipe for reinforced plate?

[wispy osprey]

Overall yeah, mergers have been my new way of turning items around in a compact way

[mystic crag]

Down side to that new base though, I have no dimensional depot connecting to any of the items being transported there

[indigo kiln]

Oh yeah that reminds me I had a hard drive going

[wispy osprey]

You can actually see your mam progress on the mam itself

It's nice to see little things get added to it

[indigo kiln]

Well basic iron ingot or bolted frame

[wispy osprey]

Reroll

[warm finch]

what do you need more of?

[indigo kiln]

Yes

[warm finch]

good answer

[mystic crag]

Well Now I have time to explore the other 3/4 of the map I ignored

[indigo kiln]

I got iron ingot to screws and that has been a godsend

[warm finch]

cast screws is great

[indigo kiln]

Steel cast plate or automated Miner

Why would you want a different recipe for the automated miner?

[warm finch]

meh, leave it

[wispy osprey]

Iron wire and wire+plates let's you skip screws entirely

[warm finch]

so they don't go back into the recipe pool

[dusky hedge]

the more bad ones you keep the less bad ones you can get in the future, ie choosing one adds one bad one to the pool

[indigo kiln]

Ah makes sense

Is it possible to get all of them eventually?

[lapis shadow]

What is the best combination of recipes to get the most turbo fuel possible out of your crude? In other words how do I use the least possible crude to get the most turbofuel?

[warm finch]

HOR and diluted fuel alt recipes

[wispy osprey]

There are enough hard drives on the map for all good and bad recipes

And all inventory slots

[warm finch]

by far the most OP alt recipes in the game. they are ESSENTIAL

[warm finch]

There are more hdds than there are alt recipes.

[wispy osprey]

Heavy turbo fuel is not good, get alternate blend turbo fuel

Or just skip turbo and get nitro rocket fuel

Most people here actually skip turbo

[dusky hedge]

skip turbo go nitro rocket

[quasi warren]

why skip turbo?

[indigo kiln]

||Me struggling to feed the phase 2 elevator pretending I know what y'all are talking about||

[wispy osprey]

Rebuilding plants is why

It saves you a ton of time on rebuilding power plants

[solid lotus]

Hey guys. Is the steel screw recipe good?

[wispy osprey]

Nitro rocket is exponentially better than it

[quasi warren]

ew- screws-

[wispy osprey]

Skip screws entirely if you can

[warm finch]

it can be, depending on your production chain set up

[dusky hedge]

not for newbies

[warm finch]

screws are easy via injection manifold

[solid lotus]

Whats considered newbie?😭

[feral jay]

No screw recipe is good. All screw recipes are evil. Screws are a gateway to quickwire.

[lapis shadow]

Less than 100000 hours in game time

[dusky hedge]

somebody who doesnt know why steel screws can be preferable to the easiest ones

[wispy osprey]

You can skip screws when you unlock assemblers i think, since you have the ingredients for iron wire and alt stitched plate

[wispy osprey]

Rookie numbers

[solid lotus]

Idk where to find hard drives😭

[wispy osprey]

A lot of those 100k are spent idle

[dusky hedge]

99k hours figring out path signals and 1k hours watching youtube 😄

[solid lotus]

Is there any other way to find them other than the ruined pods?

[warm finch]

nope

[wispy osprey]

I actually do hate pathing out of a train station back to a rail, so much that I kept stations on that exact path rail and made roundabouts after stations to turn around

[solid lotus]

This game is making my brain hurt😭

[indigo kiln]

Why isn't my Sam node being mined?

[indigo kiln]

This shit making me smell numbers

[solid lotus]

I SMELL EFFICIENCY

[wispy osprey]

The factory must grow

[warm finch]

???? you dont put your stations off of your rail lines?

[solid lotus]

The factory is nothing without me and I am nothing without the factory

[dusky hedge]

im leaning towards over under intersections rather than junctions, i figure it will save a lot of time in the end

merge vs intersect

[wispy osprey]

Junction-less train stations are possible

[quasi warren]

you dont understand how hard this made me laugh

[wispy osprey]

Just involves my current copout, roundabouts

It's just a super easy way to turn around

[warm finch]

Sure, but doing a loop of 1 way rails is much easier. then put your stations off of the 1 way rail so trains only pull off of the main loop to go to the station, and then merges back onto the rail from the station. no pathing needed. Just block signals

[wispy osprey]

My rail system can't gain any height because of my car amount, but i can stack systems

[warm finch]

just add more engines

[dusky hedge]

one rail goes down 5 m the other goes up 5 m

[warm finch]

and split up your car system to multiple trains

[wispy osprey]

I've already designed around a flat layout

[warm finch]

How many trains do you have running?

[wispy osprey]

2, the trip is a 10 minute time, enough for my refinery to fill. Iron is my fastest to fill

[warm finch]

do they share the same track? 1 direction or bi-directional?

[wispy osprey]

2 rail loops, bidirectional

[warm finch]

will be much easier to make them 1 direction only.

[wispy osprey]

I don't care how easy it is, i already think it's easy to design a 2 rail system

I've designed an 8 path roundabout and 8 path transfer U turn intersection

[warm finch]

Ok, help me understand what the complaint/issue is then?

[wispy osprey]

There was no complaint???

[warm finch]

my bad

[wispy osprey]

When did I complain

[wispy osprey]

It's alright

[warm finch]

man finally getting Hoverpack is SOOOO NICE.

always take it for granted lol

[feral jay]

Debugging mah power grid, so happy I built these express tubes

[warm finch]

yeah those are nice. are you using priority power switches?

[feral jay]

yep

[warm finch]

awesome, what's the issue with the power grid?

[feral jay]

There's a sink hooked up to my hypertube circuit somewhere, I'm tracking it down

[warm finch]

lol! that's annoying

how do you know it's a sink?'

[feral jay]

Power checker mod

[warm finch]

ah nice

[feral jay]

A little buildable you can hook up the tells you all the producers and consumers on the circuit you put it on

[quasi warren]

i have the mod

[feral jay]

And how far away they are, but not in what direction, annoyingly

[quasi warren]

so useful

[warm finch]

sounds like a neat mod. I'm still strictly a vanilla player lol

[quasi warren]

im a modded player, i have over 100 mods running rn-

[feral jay]

So I know there's a sink hooked up to my tube circuit, and it's 549m away

But whether that's northeast or south-by-southwest, it doesn't say

[quasi warren]

but atleast you have the radius of how far it is

[feral jay]

Yeah, now if only I could get SCIM to show me only sinks

[spare cradle]

How fast is the hypertubes compared to the movement method

[warm finch]

Wow sounds like mods have come a LOOOOONG way. that's awesome!

[quasi warren]

i have modded hypercannons. i keep crashing by accident XD

cause i fly so fast i cant see the world anymore

[warm finch]

You can make them so fast you shoot through objects lol. IDK how fast the hypertube is specifically compared to walking, but you gain speed going downhill and lose speed going uphill. you can stack multiple hypertube entrances to boost your speed

[spare cradle]

Do you continue the speed in the tube?

[warm finch]

in a straight line/elevation, yes.

[quasi warren]

refined power, ficsit farming, are among of the few mods i always have installed

[spare cradle]

noice

[feral jay]

I figured out how to filter sinks on SCIM, that was a huge help

Had to ask over on AnthorNet to figure it out

[quasi warren]

SCIM?

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com Satisfactory Calculator and Interactive Map

sorry

AnthorNet being the author's discord server

[quasi warren]

OHH that

i had to use that when foundations fully clipped into a piece of terrain

had to delete em

[feral jay]

I've had to use it becuase my doggos keep escaping my farm and then getting stuck in the adjacent foundations

Their pathfinding sucks ballz unfortunately

Well, I use it all the time, but that's the reason I've had to actually edit my save recently

[warm finch]

ugh, trying to fit 480/min worth of raw mat production into a 40x40x40 mk2 blue print is a major pain in the ass

[dense heron]

These refineries consume less than 600 oil/m but several of them aren't filling up and operating at 15-20%. I have 3 mk2 pumps in line here, as an attempt to troubleshoot. what else could be wrong?

(the outputs/byproducts are not backed up)

[warm finch]

take out your pumps, turn off refineries and let your pipes fill up 100%, then turn your refineries back on

[dense heron]

https://imgur.com/a/gQWQ2Ot

the extractor is running at 98%

[warm finch]

I recommend using mk2 pipes for everything

[dense heron]

okay, i'll give it a go. what's the reason for this, the pipes need to be full?

[warm finch]

gives you more internal buffer

[feral jay]

In a nutshell, pipes being full eliminates sloshing as a potential cause.

[warm finch]

when pipes are not full, it allows sloshing to happen which causes a cascade effect. also have to remember that oil extractors pulses, not a continuous stream.

[dense heron]

i did not realize sloshing was a thing
so i should not need any pumps in this setup?

[zenith sage]

Crap.. just remembered the biggest flaw of sushi belts... I can leave it alone while the storages are full... ehh guess it's time for a sink

[feral jay]

What is the output of that extractor, and what is the total consumption of all those refineries?

[warm finch]

definitely have a pump right after the oil extractor output

[dense violet]

you're feeding machines from below, it'll create sloshing

[feral jay]

Also, put something in #1038092680493801533 so the thread won't get lost

[dense violet]

you can also post images in server

[warm finch]

but it can be an mk1

[dense heron]

both 600

[dense violet]

but yeah your'e going to need a bit of a redesign. Make a post in #1038092680493801533

[native tapir]

What if the machines are upside down? Now I have to check. Damn

[feral jay]

ohhhh, that's not gonna work with that pipe layout. That layout will work with an average pipe flow of 600, but Mk.2 pipes have an *absolute maximum of 600. So when they fluctuate, they can never, ever catch up.

[dense violet]

even if the machines are upside down, bottom feeding = bad 😛

[dense heron]

damn. many videos i have seen have shown this kind of layout. didn't realize it was no good

[dense violet]

most videos people make about pipes are bad.

[dense heron]

so should i go straight up out of the extractor and have the main pipe level with the refineries?

[dense violet]

please make a post in #1038092680493801533 xD then you can share images, and we can share images AND talk

[warm finch]

have you read the pipe manual?

[feral jay]

But like cobalt said, this question is a bit beyond what can be answered well in this channel, you should post some screenshots and a question in #1038092680493801533

[tranquil zinc]

omg, I hate water extractor, so hard to incorporate them to a build aestheticall y

[dense violet]

build over them and hide them

[feral jay]

Meanwhile, my entire power grid just failed because I forgot I had trains shut down, which supply the compacted coal for my turbofuel refineries

[warm finch]

build around the water extractors, not the other way around. or exclude them by hiding them

[feral jay]

I really, really want container/buffer alarms

[whole drum]

wym?

[feral jay]

Set an alarm on containers or fluid buffers that would pop up a warning like the "one of your power storages is draining" or the blown fuse warning

[tranquil zinc]

yup, I think I need to put them on the first floor with logistics

[whole drum]

Set an overflow splitter before the buffer that only overflows when the box is full

[feral jay]

So if I have a container of compacted coal feeding a turbofuel refinery, I can set an alarm on it that would alert me of that container drops below a set threshold - i.e. before the refinery farm runs out of coal

[whole drum]

This basically creates a priority on keeping the box full while still letting you use that line for other production

[feral jay]

That's not the problem I'm trying to solve with container level alarms

It's more "Your turbofuel refinery is running out of coal"

[whole drum]

I think for what you're trying to do, you just have to be more precise with your inputs/outputs

[tranquil zinc]

also hard to snap in deep water

[feral jay]

Oh no, they all work fine. I forgot had trains shut down, so the refineries weren't being supplied with coal.

Granted, that was a dumbass mistake on my part

[thorn cave]

200+ hours and i just now found out you could swap hotbars.

[stoic laurel]

should i overclock refinerys creating fuel?

[feral jay]

It's just a matter of personal preference. A lot of people do it just so they can build fewer refineries, but myself, I just build more refineries.

There's no resource benefit to overclocking generators, they overclock linearly

[lapis shadow]

Maybe, maybe not. All depends on the supply/demand of your assembly lines

[dense violet]

if you want. OCing reg machiens jsut saves space for the most part. which can be useful

[feral jay]

They'll still burn the same volume of fuel to produce the same power output

[native tapir]

Underwater building??? 😁😁 My favorite

[feral jay]

Heh I haven't built underwater or underground yet this save

I do kinda like the idea of an underground train network

[whole drum]

With regular/Tfuel, I just build the extra gens. With Rfuel I OC the gens because the quantity gets out of hands so easily otherwise--and I tend to have a deep excess of power shards as it is.

[winter helm]

quick question which alternate recipe is best Cast screws or Steel Screws...

[dense violet]

totally dependent on what you ahve and what you want to do

[lapis shadow]

Are the train "buffer stops" kinda just cosmetic? Like why would you ever need a buffer stop if you have your stations/junctions/signals setup correctly?

[feral jay]

As always, the answer is "it depends", but given that choice, I personally go with cast screws first; it eliminates a step in a lot of production chains

[whole drum]

They achieve very different goals, but both are good.

[feral jay]

You wouldn't. They exist becuase otherwise your trains will fly off the end of a rail.

[whole drum]

They are mostly so you don't manually drive off the rail

[feral jay]

Trains used to just stop dead at the end of a track, and that was rather immersion breaking imo, I'm happy they added the buffer stops

[lapis shadow]

So they're useless basically

[dense violet]

I think basically everyone designs trains so they never have to fly off the end to get where they're going? I don't know what situation you'd ever make trains that way

[feral jay]

"Useless" is a subjective term.

[dense violet]

maybe ifyou're driving manually and don't break?

[whole drum]

"Not required" would be more accurate

[feral jay]

yeah that makes more sense to me

[whole drum]

Similar to the discussion earlier about Prio-Mergers. Not Required, but you can find uses for them if you want to.

The thing is, this game gives you a lot of build options and flexibility with its tools. Many things become "optional" once you have the right things unlocked and a good design plan.

[lapis shadow]

I was adding those buffers onto push/pull systems because those actually have dead ends on either end of the system but the train never goes past the station so I was really just wasting time 🤷‍♂️

Or making it look more realistic I guess

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
this is what my fuel area looks like

[whole drum]

They do make the station look more "official," though. Very weird for a rail to just abruptly stop, lol.

[zealous urchin]

just came off biggest hola hop ive ever had in this game

[feral jay]

You can always just build up if you're running out of room, it's a 3D game after all

[stoic laurel]

its less the room, more i have 6 of my 15 fuel gens that are now fiending for fuel for some reason. thats the biggest reason i was asking if i should just power shard my 12 refineries

[lapis shadow]

Do yall like to snap things like belt highways/railways to the world grid or do you just stretch them around the world willy nilly? The pillars used to suspend them into the air is mostly what I'm talking about rather, than the rails/belts themselves.

[feral jay]

ohh, it looks to me you've got plenty of room for more refineries, I'd just build more myself

[whole drum]

If it's a piping issues, OCing the working gens may help. If it's an output/throughput issue, that probably won't solve it.

[stoic laurel]

can the 900 crude oil im processing handle more refineries?

[feral jay]

Or are you talking about slooping them instead of sharding?

[whole drum]

W🤮 rld Grid...

[stoic laurel]

power shard, to create the fuel faster

[feral jay]

yeah it won't make much difference - whether you build more or shard the ones you have, it'll still require more oil

[stoic laurel]

i dont have enough sloops to sloop 12 fue lrefineries

[lapis shadow]

Why the barfing? You only build spaghetti factories?

[stoic laurel]

okay

[whole drum]

Just use local grids

[warm finch]

yes

[lapis shadow]

Wdym local grid? Like free placing a foundation and then snapping everything else off of that so it's on the same (local) grid?

[whole drum]

Usually I align this grid with the features in the area, like cliff faces, bodies of water, resource access, etc

Try to imagine what a giant cube with this foundation's orientation would look like within this space.

[nova ridge]

#screenshots message

anyone know how to prevent this from hpappening

[wispy osprey]

Placing 32 copper refineries isn't fun

[white dawn]

(Or even a factory which has multiple grids! Can be nice having non-90° bends and such, though admittedly that poses more difficulty for decoration and such)

[wispy osprey]

It takes up so much space

[feral jay]

Refineries - refineries everywhere! /buzz lightyear hand motion

[whole drum]

You are hooking to the wrong side of the floor hole

[hard stump]

Ok on Xbox can you delete blueprints?!

[wispy osprey]

Yes

[nova ridge]

i hooked the other side already

from a top of one to the bottom of the one you se

[hard stump]

How?

[nova ridge]

but when i try to select it it tries to connect it from the bottom agian

which is what you're seeing

[whole drum]

The game thinks you are trying to hook both segments from the same side of the hole

[nova ridge]

known bug?

[lapis shadow]

Is there a mod that lets my trains do a loopty loop? I need it because it would greatly improve the efficiency of my factory of course. nothing else.