satisfactory

[tranquil zinc]

I saw this tip in a short video, guess it was wrong then

[dense violet]

videos on pipes often are

[feral jay]

You stole that from @dense violet . The watermark says so.

[grim plover]

i wish there was more sam in the world

[sullen gull]

The buffer "trick"?

[grim plover]

10.2k/min isnt enough

[tranquil zinc]

yes

[sullen gull]

Ahh

[feral jay]

Beware "tricks", the game is still developed, "tricks" may be fixed in future releases.

See: VIP junctions

[tranquil zinc]

I think I just have to change how the oil extractor pipes goes. Need to go down so that I can use the existing loop I showed in previous screen shot #screenshots message

[zealous urchin]

wish is a tier 9 spell that has consequences

[tranquil zinc]

do junctions throttle?

[dense violet]

you're also branching your pipes to multiple sections and effectively feeding from below

this is very unreliable so it's not surprising at all that one side might work and the other doesnt

[willow pond]

congratz to the devs for making the scariest damn enemies since D&D created Beholders

[feral jay]

VIP junctions work on black magic voodoo witchcraft and unicorn glitter

So nobody actually knows

[sullen gull]

You're referring to "junction hax" yeah?

That "one" reddit post?

[tranquil zinc]

At some point I will just look for a mod then lol

[feral jay]

I am specifically referring to Variable Input Priority juntions

[dense violet]

but if you have bad piping you can get back flow there

[dense violet]

in that last image you're basically doing everything you shouldn't with pipes if you want a reliable system :\

[feral jay]

That one reddit post that demonstrated why the very specific orientation of your pipe junctions is what makes or breaks your VIPs, yes

[tranquil zinc]

I thought I can just make one input pipe higher with pumps, like water tower trick. Or is that also patched out?

[feral jay]

Not patched out. It's an unintended behaviour that may be fixed in future releases, especially now that it's been demonmstrated exactly how junctions are "broken".

[dense violet]

the 'buffer' trick isn't patched out, it jsut was never a real thing
water towers also don't fix your situation

[tranquil zinc]

so if junctions are broken, I should not do a manifold system then for fluids?

[dense violet]

they are not broken...

[feral jay]

Maniflods work fine

Horizontal junctions aren't an issue, it's specifically vertical junctions that are bugged

[dense violet]

shape and layout of pipes are important - your layout for them doesn't make them reliable for flow. I'll ping you in #design-and-architecture

[charred plaza]

Does anyone know to recycle nuclear waste or am I just screwed

[feral jay]

You turn it into plutonium, and you can sink the plutonium rods

[charred plaza]

I’m atp of just running it through my entire factory all round my hub

[charred plaza]

Oh damn what phase?

[barren tulip]

uranium waste -> non-fissile uranium -> plutonium fuel cell -> plutonium fuel rod -> awesome sink

[feral jay]

But, you can not sink uranium waste

[grim plover]

you take uranium and turn into into non-fissile uranium, and then covert that to plutonium (you can sink this, or burn it and go through the extra steps to convert it into ficsonium to burn with zero waste, or store the plutonium if u want

[charred plaza]

I’m on phase 4 rn

[grim plover]

p4, tier8 iirc

[feral jay]

Yeah it's before tier 9

[barren tulip]

i'm in phase 3 i think

[charred plaza]

I finished tier 3 like th day before I went on leave back in Dec

[zealous urchin]

maturing is realizing that swamp + abyss cliffs is best ingame location

[grim plover]

i need to do so much infrastructure work

[charred plaza]

I’m in the grassy planes which is just all spaghetti

[feral jay]

I am so looking forward to "liberating" the swamp by nuking it from orbit, when I get there this save

[barren tulip]

why?

[grim carbon]

is it possible to make one of those lizard doggos a pet?

[barren tulip]

yes

[charred plaza]

I nuked the pink forest and my PS5 didn’t like it(I denoted 10 nukes)

[grim carbon]

how?

[feral jay]

The swamp has all the resources you'll ever need, but it's... hostile

[charred plaza]

The berrys

[dense violet]

!wikisearch doggo

[grim carbon]

I tried petting one but he just runs away

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=doggo

[charred plaza]

Not the nuts

[barren tulip]

go crouch nearby them until they approach you and drop berries

[dense violet]

the wiki link should have the info

[grim plover]

i think the gameplan is like
build 1/4 of my rocket fuel as a module, -> train/beltwork -> resource building and automating the stuff i need at rates for my nuclear -> finish rocket -> sned nuke

[charred plaza]

Careful mine brought my nuclear waste

[grim plover]

LOL ?

[charred plaza]

I had to send it off the edge of the map it made me mad

[barren tulip]

they are my primary supplier of turbo motors at this time

[feral jay]

Absolutely. There's gotta be a few videos out there on how. Generally, just feed them paleberries or beryl nuts, then pet them, and POOF they're tame.

[charred plaza]

I have max inventory and hand slots

[grim plover]

i have s.comps done at 4/min rn now ill need to fix that later

[feral jay]

Holy crap I just got the "server will restart in 60 minutes" message.

I've been playing this game since U5 and never got that

[barren tulip]

cool

[dusky hedge]

turbomotor factory, 5 penns of doggos 🙂

[feral jay]

I'm pushing to reach ten million stockpiled ficsmas gifts before the 18th so the game's been running 24/7 for a few days

[charred plaza]

I captured like 20 of the little ram sheep things

I just got bored waiting for a hard drive to be done and my coal to travel 2km so I just went on a killing spree

[feral jay]

*harvesting spree

[charred plaza]

I collected like 200 power chards

So I can’t really complain

[grim plover]

i need like

[charred plaza]

Too bad my power grid sucks

[barren tulip]

one time my friend was really unhappy about the drops from the local doggo pen and then he nuked it, lmao

[charred plaza]

Uh so my phase 4 factory is just straight spaghetti all over the map I have uranium crossing plastic and rubber with AI limits crossing copper, iron, steel, and reinforced steel beams. I have 18 coal gens, 6 fuel, 50 bio mass burners, I have way too much smokeless powder and Christmas stuff

That’s what I’m dealing with every time I log in

[charred plaza]

Lmaooo

[grim plover]

at least 2k shards

[charred plaza]

I just got access to nukes today it’s the most fun ever

[unkempt blade]

yum chard

[barren tulip]

why do you have bio burners at phase 4 😭

[charred plaza]

They was from phase 1 and have thousands of biomass in storage containers

I let them run till they die

[feral jay]

#screenshots message that was my last "Hobbit Adventure"

[charred plaza]

When water pump mark 2 and 3

[feral jay]

That was a good haul

[grim plover]

pump 2 is in like phase 3

[charred plaza]

Dayum

[grim plover]

pump mk3 doesnt exist

[charred plaza]

No no I’m talking about the extractors

[grim plover]

oh yeah idk good luck

[charred plaza]

Lmao

[feral jay]

I cheat though, I use SCIM to help me find the collectibles

[charred plaza]

At least this game will eat up my deployment time 🫩

[grim plover]

mm yummy 120 shards

[fluid crow]

less pumps would be too low impact on the environment

[charred plaza]

Makes sense

[barren tulip]

just add more extractors

[charred plaza]

That’s the thing I have like 6 in a tiny pond

[echo zinc]

welp i just unlocked oil

time to go find where it spawns

[charred plaza]

You can still turn back….

[barren tulip]

find a different pond and extract them from there

[charred plaza]

Good luck they are spread far

[feral jay]

Welcome to a fresh hell

[echo zinc]

hell!

[grim plover]

yippie oil

[echo zinc]

i just want ruber 😭

[charred plaza]

I have the giant body of water near my stuff

[barren tulip]

rubber is pain

[barren tulip]

yeah just extract that

[charred plaza]

Dude oil is a pain in the ass to get

[feral jay]

That's what SHE said!

[charred plaza]

The refinery’s draw so much power

Split oil to fuel and rubber

[feral jay]

*refineries

[grim plover]

alright

[echo zinc]

im cooked

[charred plaza]

Dawg I’m a engineer in the USN I don’t do college hell i barely passed hs lmao

[fluid crow]

refinerys make power

[charred plaza]

Didn’t*

[echo zinc]

mtime to venture away from my spawning area to find where it is and figure out how i wanna process it :kek

[barren tulip]

make a powerplant to support them

[charred plaza]

No no fuel power generators do

[sullen gull]

Take advantage and do it while you're in. Trust me.

[grim plover]

time to fix my chud rail lines

[charred plaza]

I am

[charred plaza]

I take it you’re prior enlisted

[feral jay]

I am also an engineer, I'm just gifted with near perfect spelling and grammar and it takes all my will to not be an intolerable pedant about it

[fluid crow]

the waste powers the processing

[charred plaza]

lol I can’t spell I jst choose not to

[feral jay]

But misplaced apostrophes... they're like a splinter in my brain

[barren tulip]

not a bad idea

[charred plaza]

Can*

[barren tulip]

i really need to work on my grammar but i just haven't done anything about it

[feral jay]

ok shit I just got your username. Username checks out.

[charred plaza]

What I do about phase 4 like should I jsut build a platform in the sky and hope

[charred plaza]

lol I can spell like I said I just don’t care unless it’s something important like for work or something

[feral jay]

I read dictionaries for fun. I'm horrible.

[charred plaza]

Holy hell

[barren tulip]

sounds like something i'd do when i was like 9 years old

[feral jay]

I did when I was 9 too, but now my dictionaries are thicker.

[charred plaza]

Awww man I can’t use my personal emotes

[barren tulip]

i just don't read books anymore

[feral jay]

My best Christmas gift ever was for my brother (also a language geek), a dictionary in six volumes

Plus, English is a great language, there's just so many words to describe everything. But now I'm getting #off-topic-general

[feral jay]

If I ever stop reading books, please kill me

[grim plover]

real shit

i love books

[echo zinc]

#screenshots message located

OIL TIME

[feral jay]

We all know where that is. Welcome to your new hell...

Beware the hatchers

[fluid crow]

black gold

[grim plover]

yummers

at least u can block hatcher spawns

[feral jay]

Yes, best way is with the candy cane basher

[grim plover]

i have ficsmas turned off

[echo zinc]

the WHAT

[grim plover]

ada loves me ‼️

[grim plover]

oh u just like build on the spawn point and it blocks it lol

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Flying_Crab_Hatcher there are many of them where you're going

[grim plover]

unsure if it works with other mobs, since i dont know the exact spawn point or if they even have a set specific spawn point of if its a spawn area

[feral jay]

Hostiles stop spawning when you've built enough "stuff" near their span point

How much and what that "stuff" is, they won't tell us

[grim plover]

i see

[echo zinc]

somebody dig into the games code and find out

[feral jay]

My power poles stop them from spawning

[grim plover]

huh, good to know

i just wanna block the spiders tbh i hate spiders so much

[feral jay]

...if I've strung power across them, but not if I haven't

[echo zinc]

this is going to bne fun, ima run power over

[fluid crow]

I know some animals once spawned where my factory is

[echo zinc]

oh i know hat to do, man cannon!

[feral jay]

By "my power poles" I mean I have power pole blueprints that I sting multiple circuits across, it's a lot of buildables

Not the game's default power pole

[grim plover]

ugh im such a bum bro i took down my normal computers for supercomps

time to leech out of machines ig

[barren tulip]

i'd suggest bringing a boombox to deal with the crabs

[feral jay]

And keeping it easily reachable via scrollwheel

[barren tulip]

overflow split the computers and wait a while for supercomps to max out

[barren tulip]

indeed, alternatively a nobelisk can do the job whether it be a normal, pulse, or even nuke (which would take care of the hatcher as well)

[grim plover]

i havent fully finished it since i havent taken cc over yet for turboammo (i should probably just package and sink the fuel but idk i like red ammo (: so i gotta manual flush pipes for rubber for circ boards

fully a player issue just annoying

[barren tulip]

cc?

[grim plover]

compacted coal

[barren tulip]

turbo ammo was underwhelming tbh

[barren tulip]

turbofuel for jetpack / turbofuel powerplant

[grim plover]

doing rf rn for that

[sullen gull]

LBF or bust! 🤣

(or maybe Ionized) 😏

[feral jay]

Kill a few beans with it, or a spider army

[barren tulip]

i'm not sure if that's able to be automated

[feral jay]

I do think they should reduce the spoolup time for turbo ammo

[sullen gull]

Not "fully" sure, But easy enough to make more than you would need with very little input

[barren tulip]

i switched over to nobelisks once i unlocked cluster nobes

[feral jay]

I just use snowballs

[barren tulip]

there's snowballs in ficsmas?

[feral jay]

indeed

[barren tulip]

i completely ignored that event

[feral jay]

They go boom

[sullen gull]

You got three days to stock up! Go! 😏

[feral jay]

Snowballs do a bit less damage than nobelisk, which is great if you're trying to preserve the map's beauty

[barren tulip]

i have a full industrial container of nuclear nobelisks

[feral jay]

I have 8 nuke nobs, all gifts from doggos

I haven't broken nuclear yet this save

[barren tulip]

i just have a nuke nob factory overflow split from the uranium fuel rod production

[feral jay]

I actually automated computers before heavy frames this time, and now I'm planning out a massive heavy frames factory before I go much further

[barren tulip]

i'm pretty sure the fuel rod factory is consuming more than it's being supplied but i'm working to fix that

[barren tulip]

my friend built those factories and they produce an adequate amount

[feral jay]

If you play like I do, you can figure that out by their power signatures #notsohumbleflex

[barren tulip]

i just check the blenders and they aren't getting enough uranium at supply gaps

[rose lintel]

Is there an in game to do list? Besides your current tier unlock.

[feral jay]

Yeah, just right click on basically anything and then add to to do list

[barren tulip]

you can click the right side of the screen in menus and put your todo list there

[feral jay]

!wikisearch to_do_list

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=to_do_list

[feral jay]

For real I think a lot of new players really have no idea how comprehensive and accurate this game's wiki is

God when I play ONI, yeah, it's got a wiki, but that wiki is... lacking

[barren tulip]

ONI?

[feral jay]

Oxygen Not Included

(If you like Satisfactory, chances are you'll like ONI)

[barren tulip]

noted, though i'd prefer to focus on this game as i want to beat it before i lose motivation and switch to a different game

-# also i do not have oxygen not included

[nova ridge]

is there an easy way to switch between jetpack and hover with keyboard

[sullen gull]

(If you like Satisfactory, and Terraria chances are you'll like ONI)

[feral jay]

"Beat" Satisfactory? You can finish the game. You can't beat it.

[grim plover]

how tall are trains ? 6meters minus rail height itself is enough right ?

[feral jay]

In communist Ficsit®, Satisfactory beats you!

[barren tulip]

close enough

[feral jay]

I mean, you can "beat" this game by doing something better than any other player has done before

[strong fiber]

Use all resource nodes

[charred plaza]

I’m back

[barren tulip]

i'll just play it until i lose motivation and come back a few months later

[nova ridge]

like a hot key i might be missing

[feral jay]

That's been done

[barren tulip]

i am not doing that

[strong fiber]

And only make one giant factory for everything

[feral jay]

No, and there really should be. There's a mod for it though.

[strong fiber]

No little factories

[sullen gull]

Completing All phases possible with nothing but the factory cart? 😏

[barren tulip]

that's basically what i'm doing this world, making everything in one place (except power)

[charred plaza]

Dude today was asssssssss I deadass used a grinder on rust and paint all today with no respirator causing me to cough up black stuff all day

[nova ridge]

ah.. so clicking is the only way without mods

[charred plaza]

Ooo wrong server

[nova ridge]

wish i could at least hotbar it or something

[strong fiber]

Imagine having your nuclear plant with every other factory in your world

[strong fiber]

W rust player

[charred plaza]

No no on my ship

[sullen gull]

When you hit tab, the "Equipment Shortcuts" are accessible by 1 thru x

[barren tulip]

75% sure they mean irl

[feral jay]

This save, I'm going for a perfectly flat power graph. I'm going to isolate all fluctuating power draws. People say it can't be done.

[charred plaza]

I don’t play Rust

[strong fiber]

Leave

[nova ridge]

when i press 1 it sends it to my dimensional depot

[charred plaza]

I did

[sullen gull]

Oh, damn, forgot that bug was still there 😒

[charred plaza]

Speed running cancer

[sullen gull]

my bad

[nova ridge]

its sort of a deadly bug

[charred plaza]

Jst play on console

[nova ridge]

hm

[barren tulip]

that was my world until the 80 nuclear powerplant project, now a bunch of production issues and spooling means the power is fluctuating between 190k MW to 230k MW

if the world stays online for like a day or two straight then i'll run out of waste storage

[charred plaza]

Tinker don’t slander me

Yk how military life is gotta make do somehow

[sullen gull]

More powwah to ya! 🤣

[charred plaza]

Lmao

[grim plover]

guhhh i cant nudge this light into this low barrier

[sullen gull]

Lol, one and only reason I bought an Xbox way back when was Korea 😛

[charred plaza]

Real

[feral jay]

I solved that problem in a previous game actually, it was a stupidly complex power setup, before priority power switches existed. I designed it mostly so I'd be able to restart power production in the case of a massive failure.

[nova ridge]

i think im abusing clipping too much

[fluid crow]

I'm abusing floating architecture but I'm planning on filling it in eventually

[gloomy tusk]

Striek

#screenshots my first ever factory

[feral jay]

Yes?

[barren tulip]

i did not account for that, i just hope the recycling setup spools up enough so it can take over from just shoving the waste to a faraway storage platform

[nova ridge]

why is it when i use somerslo pthe first unit doesnt get the bonus

[feral jay]

You are fired. WIth extreme prejudice.

[barren tulip]

my first world also looks like that

[dense violet]

doesn't work the first cycle

changes to a system typically don't

like if you change teh clocking on a machine it'll be applied next cycle

[nova ridge]

i see

so best to keep somerslop in there and not remove it

esp for pink

[coral marsh]

You cant sloop the inputs you can only sloop the outputs, the only thing that changes input values is over or under clocking

[dense violet]

there's enough sluggs on the map for more than 2000 shards w/o slooping. You'll be fine missing a cycle

[nova ridge]

they also seem to respawn

[coral marsh]

I think the more accurate value is 2120 without sloops, which is plenty

[dense violet]

only with major updates.

you can also just make them later

[nova ridge]

yeah i unlocked it but dont have quantum yet

[coral marsh]

You dont need a heck of a lot once you do start making synthetic power shards, 10k is a good maximum to have honestly (i went way overboard and I have 60 thousand lmao)

[nova ridge]

i've prob made 300 so far

[coral marsh]

Good start

[nova ridge]

just started somerslopping so i dont have to look as often

[coral marsh]

Yea

[gloomy tusk]

Is there a way to manufacture the weird ball things and somersloops

[coral marsh]

Just be wary of power consumption when using sloops, a particle accelerator will max out at 26.5~ Gw and a quantum encoder will top out at 28Gw

[surreal hull]

how come lumen on high only works when the light source is i my fov?

[coral marsh]

Not without a specific mod.

[gloomy tusk]

How many sommrrsloops are there

[nova ridge]

gw wow

[coral marsh]

Could be around 1 or 200

[gloomy tusk]

What do you mean

[coral marsh]

Yea Gw, 26-28 thousand Megawatts, but no ones going to max out 1 let alone 10

[coral marsh]

Only a couple hundred slopps on the whole map maybe less

[nova ridge]

yeah im working on urainium. at 20k mw atm

[coral marsh]

Im currently at 72Gw on fuel and coal atm

Working on production of ionized fuel for 6-700 fuel gens and also 250 nuclear reactors for as close to 7Tw as I can produce

[nova ridge]

need to make rocket fuel fo rme

but thats after i try oput nuclear

[coral marsh]

Easy, turbo fuel plus iron plates and nitric acid

[nova ridge]

yeah but decided on this first

[coral marsh]

I'd do rocket fuel before nuclear

Its less involved

[gloomy tusk]

I’m at tiers 5 and 6 and making 10,000 w of power (this is my first save) is that good?

[coral marsh]

Phase 3?

Yes, thats good

[gloomy tusk]

I’m working on phase 3

I haven’t finished it

[coral marsh]

10Gw is good for phase 3, im trying to complete 120Gw before I finish phase 3

[gloomy tusk]

Like I’m still putting the things I. The space elevator

[coral marsh]

Yea

[gloomy tusk]

I’m on phase 2

[nova ridge]

already started on ura so meh. not like ill use more power until im done

[coral marsh]

For my second world save, I wanna hit a really high number maybe 1 or 2Tw by end of the game

[nova ridge]

i should make some heyper cannons

i did upgrade from a 10700k to 9800x3d midgame and performance boost is insane

cant wait to try factorio and dyson later prob wont lag in late game as quickly anymore

[coral marsh]

10Gw is plenty for phase 2 and a decent amount for phase 3, wouldnt worry too much just keep an eye on the number of manufacturers you place down as they consume a base of 55Mw and can consume upto 650Mw

[coral marsh]

Im running a R5 5600G, Rx7600 and 16gb of ram, basically slightly over minimum specs lmao

[feral jay]

I'm running an RTX2070 with 32GB, even less over minimums, getting 45fps

[nova ridge]

fk spider still scares me

[feral jay]

You need more ram

But don't buy ram now lol

[nova ridge]

32gb right. i dont think 64 maakes a diff does it?

i hope not cuz im not spending 800$ for it

[feral jay]

Fuck dude the spiders scare my wife if she saunters into the office when I'm fighting them

[dusky hedge]

i went from a 4930k & 980ti hybrid to 9800x3d % 7900xt< yoiu can imagine the difference i saw 🤣

they were truly punching above their weight

[gloomy tusk]

You only need 8gb of ram

[nova ridge]

thats a new era

[feral jay]

640k ought to be enough for anybody

[gloomy tusk]

Someone should buy me a pc

Help

[abstract heron]

why

[dusky hedge]

i vote for you

[gloomy tusk]

I hopped out of the train

And now I’m out of the map

[abstract heron]

huh

[feral jay]

That's just a glitch in the Matrix

If you see multiple black cats, RUN

[gloomy tusk]

I’m stuck

[feral jay]

Options --> keep inventory --> respawn

This game needs an "unstuck" feature like Subnautica IMO

[dusky hedge]

i thought it did

[feral jay]

Not that I've seen

[gloomy tusk]

It’s called respawn

[surreal hull]

how did u even get stuck?

[gloomy tusk]

Hopped out of moving train

[surreal hull]

ok?

[gloomy tusk]

And I went under the map

[surreal hull]

i see

skill issiue

[coral marsh]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 youre funny, no you need more than 8gb, my pc runs satis on 12gb out of my 16.

I need 32

[gloomy tusk]

I have 8

I don’t need anymore then I have it runs fine

[surreal hull]

how??? my pc uses 10 without any games even being open

[gloomy tusk]

That’s not normal

How does it use 10gb with nothing open?

[tropic juniper]

sure it is. browser tabs. discord. media is the biggest ram eater

[dusky hedge]

your computer is a mess

[surreal hull]

firfox uses 1.1, discord and spotify uses ~1.2

i got steam open too

[gloomy tusk]

Where is the other 8

[surreal hull]

and my ebook reader

[tropic juniper]

other people use browsers and discord differently. some people got a lot of tabs open. some got a lot of meme servers open.

[surreal hull]

i have 2 tabs open

gmail and youtube

[tropic juniper]

if you been running around in the steam store, thats a buncha allocated memory too

[coral marsh]

If you have a more power cpu than the 5600g sure 8gb is fine, but I dont so I need more ram

[tropic juniper]

unallocated memory is wasted memory. if your pc needs it for a game when its' "used", it just pages it

[coral marsh]

Im running mods too so that consumes more than normal

[surreal hull]

just download more

ez fix fr

[coral marsh]

Nothing against you but I genuinely hate that joke, the only thing that downloading ram is actually good for, is if you want to run a virtual RAM setup which is unfathomably slow as shite. Its extea cache, but its slower than a 5400 or 7200Rpm hdd trying to run 300Mbp/s transfer speeds

[nova ridge]

somehow the cat is more terrifying than the spider

[coral marsh]

SAME I found that too

I genuinely thought the option would physically remove spiders from the game and add in a friendly swarm of cats but no, its just a giant Png and I hate that.

[surreal hull]

:(

[coral marsh]

So I leave the game on passive

[surreal hull]

i like the kittys

they meow and its cute :)

[coral marsh]

I love cats, a whole heap but I refuse to attack them because the devs decided to make it a sick joke by placing a giant ping over the spiders

Im glad the advanced game settings allows you to disable spiders in general

[surreal hull]

if u kill a lizard dogo ada says "bad human"

[coral marsh]

I would never

[surreal hull]

:D

[coral marsh]

Only friendlies ill kill are the giant beans

[surreal hull]

those guys are so tanky though

[coral marsh]

They get in my way

[coral marsh]

They really are, it can take like 10 nobelisks or 5 clusters

[surreal hull]

its annyoing

how many nukes?

[coral marsh]

Like, 2 or 3?

[surreal hull]

trash nukes

[coral marsh]

But those are also expensive

[surreal hull]

if im using a nuke i want everything in a 500M radius to die

[coral marsh]

The actual blast radius and damage radius of the nukes is genuinely fkin pathetic

[surreal hull]

fr

[coral marsh]

A nuke is a final weapon of mass destruction, even the smallest ones irl took out Hiroshima and Nagasaki and yet, in game, they cant even remove a sizeable boulder

A 30lb nuke fired from an atomic cannon will still have a blast radius of 3 miles

[surreal hull]

it is a really tiny nuke

but its not really better then a standard nob

[finite mirage]

wait so u can turn sam into anything?

[coral marsh]

For the cost of unlocking its crafting recipe and the amount of power it takes to make 1, they are very underwhelming

[coral marsh]

Yes

Even gasses

[dense violet]

Sam + other thing = other thing

[finite mirage]

so sam = 0?

[surreal hull]

drops paleberries

[coral marsh]

[surreal hull]

i wanted the other one :(

[coral marsh]

You can turn SAM and coal into quartz

[surreal hull]

come here zard lemme tame you

[coral marsh]

SAM and Bauxite into Uranium

[coral marsh]

Theyre so cute too

[finite mirage]

just basic resources or construction material too? like iron plate or smthn

[coral marsh]

No

Only from Sam and "ore" into another "ore" or gas

The converter has every recipe, have a look through if you have it unlocked

[surreal hull]

how usefull even is matter conversion?

[coral marsh]

If you're lacking on uranium, you can use bauxite and copper to make more (copper to bauxite)

[dense violet]

I'm not sure what you mean by that sorry

[dense violet]

in general? not

[coral marsh]

Its like a small extra bit of one to another creation for a decent boost

[surreal hull]

dosnt the matter converter use a fuff ton of powa?

[coral marsh]

Yup

[surreal hull]

iv never gotten pst phase 3 so idk anything

[dense violet]

sure but the main issue is SAM ore is never around other stuff you're likely to be building a factory.

so if you have to bring in SAM ore you might as well just import more of the thing you actually need

[finite mirage]

sam + other thing = other thing
or, sam = other thing - other thing [side-change]
or, sam = 0

[surreal hull]

phase 3 fully done even the mam is maxxed out xD

[narrow canyon]

All the high lvl stuff does.

[coral marsh]

If you wanna make uranium from bauxite, it requires 480 bauxite per minute plus reanimated SAM to make just 120 uranium ore

[surreal hull]

computer factory scares me

[coral marsh]

Its expensive as shit power wise as well

[dense violet]

well SAM is used in some other products, but you need SAM + other thing = convert to different thing.

[long beacon]

anybody got solution for moving ALOT of metal ingots around a factory fast

i got ab 36 smelters

[dense violet]

belts.

[finite mirage]

i see thanks

[narrow canyon]

Belts

[coral marsh]

Close by? Belts
Far away? Trains
Medium to long distance? Truck/drone

[surreal hull]

36*30=180+900=1080?

[surreal hull]

idk how to math tbh

[coral marsh]

36×30=1080

[surreal hull]

mental mathings hard

[narrow canyon]

So use in game calc :/

[dense violet]

moving things around a factory is entirely the reason belts exist xD

[long beacon]

by moving i mean i feel the belt is soooooooooooo slow

[surreal hull]

mk4 move 480

[coral marsh]

Press N on pc for the search and you can do math in that

[dense violet]

'slow' doesn't mater, only throughput

[narrow canyon]

Get better belts then

[long beacon]

i have mk4 across the whole shabang

[surreal hull]

my motor factory uses like 1200 iron ingots and i use like 1 mk4 belt

[dense violet]

sounds like you need probably 3 mk4 belts then

[coral marsh]

Mk4 moves 480, mk5 moves 780, mk6 moves 1200

[long beacon]

so mk6 would be needed for the belts to run efficiently

[coral marsh]

Nah

[dense violet]

just make multiple sections using your mk4 belt....

[coral marsh]

Mk6 is very late game and isn't always needed

[long beacon]

Fair

[coral marsh]

At 1080, you should only need 3 mk4 belts

[narrow canyon]

You can run everything on mk1.. save for machine connections if you wanted.. lol

[coral marsh]

Lol

[dense violet]

besides utilising miners to their most, you can do every system with mk1 belts tbh

[coral marsh]

Yup

[dense violet]

it might be annoying to use mk1s, but it's easily doable

[long beacon]

i have 4 mk4 elevators raising off the main belt of ingots and all the smelters are still backed up to the max so i jus assumed there was a faster way to move things

[dense violet]

you have to manage your outputs and inputs to what belts you have.

you can't put 1000 parts pm on a mk4 belt and expect it to flow right

you have to break up that 1000 ppm into multiple belts

[coral marsh]

Mk1's move items at 1 per second, slow as fuck but yea very doable

[long beacon]

tru tru

[surreal hull]

how come the iron pipe recipe is so painful? like 100 iron/min for only 25 steel pipes/min

[coral marsh]

No clue but the steel pipes using the coke steel ingots is far better.

[surreal hull]

the normal recipe is 30 iron + 30 coal for 20/min

[coral marsh]

Petroleum coke plus iron ore into coke steel ingots, then coke steel ingots plus concrete into molded steel beams or pipes.

[dense violet]

because it's a simplicity trade off.

[surreal hull]

i made my motor factory with only iron ore as an inoput xD

[coral marsh]

I have a blueprint that uses the coke steel ingot and molded pipe recipe

[surreal hull]

wwhy i can get away with 1 mk4 belt for the 1200 iron ingots i need

[dense violet]

I mean sure but coal and iron are the most common duos for nodes near each other. You spend 4 iron per 1 coal you save (assuming you're using solid steel ingots)

[narrow canyon]

You can't

[surreal hull]

i can cuz of the way im doing things

the constructors for the iron are directly above the smelters

[narrow canyon]

🍿

[surreal hull]

most of the iron is put into a constructer immeditly

so its not really 1200 ingots on the belt

[dense violet]

sounds like you're using more than 1 belt

[surreal hull]

im using 1 long belt that feeds a big manifold

but the ingot inputs onto diffrent parts of the same belt

[narrow canyon]

Also not really using 1200 ingots :/

[surreal hull]

its close enough

i need to make a reinforced beam factory

i have like 10 reinforced beams

iv been shivers hand crafting them

i think iusing iron pipes is inefficient

i only get 25 motors/min

iron pipes use so many irons

im using the steel rotor recipe 2

[dense violet]

so use not iron pipes?

[surreal hull]

no coal near the factory

to lazy for train

and its already been made and works fine

[dense violet]

sounds like poor location planning

[dusky hedge]

youre trying to bring logic where it doesnt belong

[surreal hull]

their was ALOT of poor planning involved

like idek what the fuff i was doing wheni started on it

was gonna make it with copper for wire

but was halfway done and was like "i should use iron wire for the funny"

it wasnt funny

ok i leave now

[narrow canyon]

Sanity maybe.. lol

[feral jay]

9.3 million ficsmas gifts stockpiled

I'm going for ten million before the 18th

[frosty nimbus]

I just got turbo fuel done for the first time :D

[feral jay]

Iz a huge power boost

Mix it up with diluted fuel and you're swimming in power

[robust frost]

Helo

Used to play satis a ton with my friends and I was wondering if anyone wanted to start a world

To get that experience again

[weary kestrel]

#1201555265942724758

[cunning glade]

So my gen says it used 10 rocket fuel a min at 600w is that true

It's not using some .-- number right

[queen slate]

Gj 😄

[weary kestrel]

Clock speed Burn time (sec) Fluid per minute Output MW

250% 36.0 10.425 m3 625

wiki seems to support that 👌

[reef basin]

At 240% clock, yes

Though at that point just clock it to 250%

[frosty nimbus]

unfortunately havent rolled that recipe yet. but I do have the heavy residue to turbo fuel recipe so that helped a ton

managed to get about 300 turbo fuel p/m

set 20 of it aside for packaging and sent the 280 into fuel gens

[cunning glade]

Allows me too do 60 a floor and blueprint it more easily

[heavy swift]

Hey guys, I have a question. Is it possible to make a line of 8 coal generators without the last ones running out of water using the same level 1 pipe?

Or do I need to run two lines of pipes, one for the first 4 and another for the remaining 4? The 8 generators are aligned.

[opaque wren]

You don't need 2 lines but you need to feed from both sides.

#screenshots message

[heavy swift]

cant do both sides, water is coming from the same side ill make a doble pipe, i supose the longest one will need a pump

[opaque wren]

Here is an example

MK2 pipes come a bit later. The pipe can hold 300 but you need 360

[heavy swift]

@opaque wren soo two line of pipe and for the second one a pump to push it?

[opaque wren]

Depends how high it is. If it is more than 10m (or 12?) then you need a pump

Also, if you want to be a bit cost effective, then it's enough to just have 1 pipe

1 pipe extra for both lines I mean

[heavy swift]

bearly 4 to 6 meters over the water

[opaque wren]

Water extractor can push 10m without needing a pump

you can use walls as reference

if the pipe that feeds the backline doesn't need more than 10m elevation, then you are fine

If you want to "test it" you can just add a pump on water extractor output

It will show how much it pushes

if it's less than 10, then you can simply remove it after.

[heavy swift]

will do thx for the advise

[opaque wren]

You might be able to get away with it depending on how high you have the pipe that feeds the backline

I would honestly just do it at the same level as the others

You can have a pipe in the middle that feeds the backline

2 water extractors on each pipe (3 pipes) - I posted a screenshot

[heavy swift]

will conect some water extractors and see how it performs

[opaque wren]

In my experience it's best to not have to many paths a liquid can take

Anyways, try and see.

[heavy swift]

in other set up of coal generator i was fighting the water mecanic for 8hrs

cuz the last 2 generators always ran out of water

long story short, i dont know how to count and had 1 extra generator that was doing all the problem

[opaque wren]

I also had my share of problems with liquids.

I am pretty much set to build on water now whenever I have to deal with refineries.

[heavy swift]

ill do the same then

[opaque wren]

I just go on the ocean and carpet the area with foundations - everything is at he same level

[heavy swift]

if it works it works

[opaque wren]

Depending on where you want your setup, oceans are premium for powerplants. (it's the same for oil)

Pumps eat quit a bit of power as well.

If you want to add a second floor, then sure.

But I think going on open water and make everything flat simplies things a lot.

Later when you unlock Mk2 pumps, and your power is GW levels then the cost of the pump becomes insignificant

but early, carpet on the ocean works the best for me

Train station is usually high elevation so I just use the conv. lifts if I have to exchange resources. It's better that way than to build the factory at elevation and deal with pipe problems.

[heavy swift]

look at the photo, whats ur guess

i hope it works

[opaque wren]

That won't work

because you have 300 max before split

so it won't help

You need to push 360 water for 8 refineries

one pipe can only manage 300

Basically you can't connect all water generators to one line.

[heavy swift]

all the pipes have water now, no?

[opaque wren]

@heavy swift I don't know how the intersection is being calculated. Technically it's still one pipe slot with max 300. Why do you connect them?

[heavy swift]

they arent

[opaque wren]

Just let them disconnected. The water extractors can push in both directions

[heavy swift]

they are clipping

[opaque wren]

Oh, my bad. I am not used with clipping 🙂

Yes, then it should be fine.

[heavy swift]

yey

will conect the coal and upd u about it

[olive badger]

does someone know if the harddrives you buy in the shop count towards the trophy?

[rose lintel]

I’m guessing I can’t use scanned hard drives for other MaM research?

[olive badger]

nope

[heavy swift]

@opaque wren so far so good, pipes are full and the generators are working

tho i did have to put a pump in the longest one just to keep the flow

yup 100% succes

[finite mirage]

is there a load balance calculator

i have 10 assemblers

and need a thousand smart plating

[barren tulip]

so 20/m just run the assemblers for 50 minutes

[dusky hedge]

what is the requirement?, words matter

[reef basin]

can also do this

--S--S--S--S--S--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |

[finite mirage]

but that woul take long no?

my whole thing is saving time rn

[reef basin]

you can pre-feed if you want

[fluid crow]

people say all recipes are good sometimes but what about alternate : charcoal 😬

[reef basin]

great for things like production of ammo

well "great" = some people use it that way

you dump your inventory into a chest, take ammo, come back later to have new ammo from the dumped items

[olive badger]

"gather 100 hard drives from crash sites" so most likely it wont work then thanks

[fluid crow]

not sure how long you could go with 0 coal to warrant that

[barren tulip]

500 assemblers run for 1m

[reef basin]

given you don't need that much ammo anyway, practically forever

[fluid crow]

think I'll keep turning my trees into a stash of bio fuel

[reef basin]

sure, as with all recipes, their usage is based on preference 😉

but people often confuse "I don't like/use a recipe" with "recipe is useless" 🙂

[fluid crow]

I can spare some of this 480/m coal belt outside for ammo 😂

[barren tulip]

nobe

[fluid crow]

I still don't need anymore coal

from trees

[reef basin]

the point was that you could build the ammo factory in a place that doesn't have coal 🙂

obviously if you have coal, just use that

[barren tulip]

not a bad idea

[fluid crow]

I'll take your word places like that exist

[reef basin]

they do, especially if you consider not just empty map, but map where players may have tapped some nodes already

[unkempt blade]

real pioneers of character know that all recipes are the best recipe, especially cast screws

each recipe more peak than the next

[fluid crow]

screws is the only thing I got

[reef basin]

cast screws would probably be the recipe I'd say I like the least if I was asked

[weary kestrel]

meanwhile I just have decision paralysis, I have like 10+ sitting in mam unselected

[unkempt blade]

flip a coin, live a little

[reef basin]

flip a coin

[finite mirage]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1461656806597071001
uhhh math not mathing guys

[unkempt blade]

but it's the best early game recipe, that's its situation 😄

[reef basin]

hard disagree

[unkempt blade]

what did the coin choose for you?

[weary kestrel]

nothing, I just stare at my failed fuel plant and consider ripping it up for turbo instead 🤣

[unkempt blade]

what caused it to fail?

[weary kestrel]

skill issues in the piping department/math
800 fuel output between 13.3 refineries means I can't get a clean split for the gens so there's always one which gets slightly underfed the required amount

[finite mirage]

hey not sure if this is already on the bug tracker but if the decoupled camera in camera mode is below a present is lands the present mid and it keep floating

could someone add it if not already there

[reef basin]

you can search it and/or add it yourself as well

[reef basin]

that doesn't matter though, you can't "clean split" pipes either

[barren tulip]

underclock that one gen?

or overclock refiner or something

[weary kestrel]

can't overclock refiner as it maths out perfectly with the oil input

I could underclock the gen I guess... makes more sense than ripping the entire thing down 🤣

[jaunty jewel]

making the setup was

[sinful goblet]

im tring to plan my factory using www.satisfactorytools.com and it tells me that i need to have more ore/min then i have atm, does it mean that i have to overclock my drills?

[reef basin]

or find more nodes 🙂

generally you should plan a place for your factory based on the requirements, not try to fit it in a place that doesn't have enough resources 😉

[sinful goblet]

okey, so basicly i can have more resources incomming to the capability of my current belt?

[reef basin]

you can have multiple belts 🙂

the arrows in SFTools don't represent belts, they represent logistical flow of resources

[sinful goblet]

yeah but in the end its gonna be "glogged" and at that point i have to match the math 🙂

[reef basin]

it's not gonna be clogged

each belt can go to different machines

[native tapir]

Always wished we could get some belts and layout tools in SF tools

Phenomenal planner either way

[reef basin]

it's a calculator, not a planner. And planning is best done in the game anyway

[green fiber]

Tools tells you numbers and where they go, the rest is up to the player

[native tapir]

I use the in-game calculator and plan in SF tools. I guess that's why none of my factories work

[ruby jay]

👆 This. The game itself is like CAD. So easy to revision the desing when only penalty is time

[sonic igloo]

is it normal to completely revamp ur factory from time to time

like delete everything and just make a whole new thing

[reef basin]

it's quite common, but usually not recommended

[sonic igloo]

figures, thanks tho !

[reef basin]

if you look at it that you're spending time to go backwards, it kinda doesn't make sense to dismantle 🙂

if you instead spend time building the new factory elsewhere, you'd have both new and old factories and you've spent less time doing that

[sonic igloo]

im still going into phase 2, im just trying to figure out how the new stuff works

and i kinda want to fix my whole setup cuz its kinda jagged

nothing like a few building videos cant fix

[reef basin]

well it's your save, but if you want my recommendation:

• don't go to youtube or other places to copy their builds, build your own mistakes factories
• don't touch old setups, let them work and produce what they are making, even a bad factory is better than no factory

even a jagged setup still makes things 🙂

[sonic igloo]

you make a good point honestly, thanks for that

and if anything i could just revamp the old ones when i unlock most of the decor

[golden nexus]

Better to build the new one before removing the old

[reef basin]

also I see many people burn out because they decide on exactly this - rebuild everything, tear down stuff and build new stuff instead. It's a gigantic projects and many times people have issues approaching it

[reef basin]

after you've built the new, there's practically no reason to remove the old 🙂

[sonic igloo]

yeah and tbh this is my 3rd save cuz i kept doing the same thing in my past saves

[golden nexus]

Yeah, Like i did a 600/min uranum factory last night in about 2 hours. Mostly because I already had large factories doing key parts

[sonic igloo]

i always get stuck halfway to phase 2

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency may be interesting read for you

[sonic igloo]

ill look into it

thanks again !!

[weary kestrel]

that overview hurts my soul so much cause that's exactly what I've done with my starter nodes 🤣

generating reinforced plates, rotors & modular frames all at once 🤣

[sonic igloo]

yeah i also felt embarrassed when i was reading through it haha

[severe pewter]

I had an iron setup that I tore down and rebuilt once. New setup was made super compact. Whole thing is still up and in use too, running on Mk.3 Belts. Works great too, but the belt input/output stacks are about 14 high

From the outside, it looks great. But anytime I go to tweak anything, it's a nightmare chasing lines to figure out where they go. 60 advanced plates, 270 iron plates, I forget how many rods (but it's enough), and something like 3000 screws all fed individually to industrial storages in a node, and back into the factory as needed.
-Whole factory is built like a zip file

[zenith shard]

how would that be possible? do crash sites respawn?

[severe pewter]

How many hard drives are there?
-It is nice that you can use crash site materials to feed the hard drive containers though.

[unkempt blade]

dozens!

[barren tulip]

somewhere between 20 and 600

[severe pewter]

I know it's at least 3

[ruby jay]

Think it was 118 crash sites and 108 alternate recipes

[strong fiber]

❌

118 hard drives

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[barren tulip]

that's definitely between 20 and 600

[finite mirage]

using satisfactory calculator, can i see eac building that uses a slug?

a power shard

[zenith sage]

I don't think it supports power shards 🤔 If you transfer it to Satisfactory Modeler (and it survives it) you can add overclocks there

Or just you know.. math it out by hand

[finite mirage]

i want to see where my slugs went

[gleaming flare]

Can anyone help me with a multiplayer issue? I'm on steam and trying to create a session with my friend who is on Epic. Does anyone know what to do?

[zenith sage]

Aah, you meant scim

Then yeah, you can look through each machine there and see if it uses them, not sure if there's a separate menu for it tho

[finite mirage]

is the save data readable like a json or smthn?

i wouldd write my own program

[zenith sage]

No clue about that

There's a mod for finding them inside buildings too if you prefer

[scenic mirage]

in my nuclear plant is it bad to over produce nitric acid? i make 900 nitric acid/min and i only need 873/min. but my pipes arent full and the blenders keep backing up and arent putting it out in the pipes, and my non fissile uranium production keeps idling. even when i was producing exactly 873/min, it was doing the same thing

[unkempt blade]

sorry this isn't really answering your question but if you're worried about running out you can make shards without using slugs later in the game so they're not a finite thing forever

[finite mirage]

slugs are finite right?

[scenic mirage]

mmm.... slugs 🤤

[scenic mirage]

slugs yes, shards no

[unkempt blade]

slugs are, shards are not

[finite mirage]

oh

wait how??

[scenic mirage]

phase 5 😄

[ornate saffron]

You must construct additional Power shards

[finite mirage]

How?

I thought slugs were the only recipe

[zenith sage]

Check MAM, there's one more research there

[ornate saffron]

atm you cant make nuclear Nobolisk either. time changes things

[scenic mirage]

wait what i swear you could??

[zenith sage]

Why do all my blueprints eat 300 concrete each (I mean I do know why, but still...)

[ornate saffron]

i mwent spicificly in their play through

[ornate saffron]

you love @mortal ginkgo

[finite mirage]

whaaa? i dont understand a single thing

[ornate saffron]

Have you researched anything in the MAM?

[finite mirage]

how else would i have gotten overclocking? -_-

[zenith sage]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

keep researching the Slug tree and you will understand

[finite mirage]

alrighht

[vague plume]

Guys! HELP GIVE MY TRAINS NAMES

I have Bob and Bill

[spare cradle]

Tim and tom

[leaden turret]

trainy mc trainface

[ornate saffron]

Look up characters names in Bill and teds Excellent Adventure. atm you are still missing ted

[vague plume]

YES

[near siren]

how can i place signals on monorail tracks?

[ornate saffron]

do you have more then one train?

[near siren]

i did but i didnt want to risk having a headache

so got rid of one

[green fiber]

you just aim at the track

but if you only have one train you dont need signals

[barren tulip]

what happened to nuke nobs?

[ornate saffron]

Okay, Signals break the track into colored blocks. A singnal wiil check the block ahead to see if a train is there. If there is not the oncoming train gets approval to move forward. the signal direction matters as they are NOT bi directional.

most people build a two track one direction system. "In my case a train moving forward is always on the right track.

you cannot just signal a small section of the track. its a all or nothing system

[unkempt blade]

only one train? do you know what server you're on?

[ornate saffron]

context of conversation. the player i was talking to had not unlocked them or power shards

[barren tulip]

oh

[ornate saffron]

your weapons of doggo destruction are safe

[barren tulip]

i do NOT nuke doggos with them i swear

[ornate saffron]

[near siren]

i wish we could get curved arches for monorails as they go through/past/in complexes or bases

[barren tulip]

those green bird thingies are fair game but doggos are to be kept

[ornate saffron]

you can its just a lot of work

[near siren]

yea i was thinking of making one via the blue print thing if it was even possible

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message when a belt of a splitter is clogged, isn't the rest supposed to focus on another belt like how smart splitters do overflow?

the left belt isn't entirely clogged, but the right belt won't fill no matter what

[ornate saffron]

i wish you could drop nuts into the green birds maw as it opens it to the sky

[barren tulip]

i don't think they can eat those

[ornate saffron]

delete emtpy belt and replace. sometimes things are wierd

[ornate saffron]

hence the wish

[barren tulip]

lmao

[near nacelle]

I had the same issue yesterday, I had to delete things multiple times before it started working I had to put things on any setting and then switch it to the product and overflow and then back to any

[ornate saffron]

possible yes, a bit of a pian TotalXplise has a good how to video on it though

[leaden turret]

that's a roundabout way to be asking for a male character model

-# teabagging joke

[ornate saffron]

lol it was not, my Autism rattled brain didnt make that connection

[grizzled lotus]

I have unlocked nuclear power, reachign the furthest part of the game I have ever reached

man, these little tiers take up a lot of time and planning

[barren tulip]

me too, don't build 80 nuclear powerplants please, it's suffering to keep up

[ornate saffron]

praise be. ive been on the cusp of phase 4 all week. I just havent made the ACU needed yet

[ornate saffron]

build a even 100

1:100 ratio is sexy

[barren tulip]

i SHOULD be making turbo motors right now but i have to do troubleshooting on the fuel, nuclear plant, and recycling facility since there's issues on all of them atm

[grizzled lotus]

oh man, building for the ACU made me enter a phase where I just incessantly complained about how this game needed so many damn computers

[ornate saffron]

my brain wont let me move onto the next projecty until the previous one is having no issues. I harddrive hunt for a hour or so between projects to make sure there is no issues

[ornate saffron]

this will be my 8th completed run if i get to credits. sometimes life happens and i dont play for months and i start a new

[barren tulip]

same, but making changes to this flawed chain requires like an hour to properly spool so i have to do something in the meantime

[grizzled lotus]

Oh. I used to play up till August, having unlocked aluminum and the entire bauxite headache made me stop playing entirely

[ornate saffron]

ya thats why i harddrive hunt, mercer spheres, sloops, Distribute Democracy

[barren tulip]

fair, i should try that

[ornate saffron]

Aluminimum is a bit of a step up in complexity. But i find not mixinf fluids eleminates a lot of issues

[grizzled lotus]

you mean alt recipes that remove fluids? Haven't found any so far

[ornate saffron]

no I mean using the Water bi-product for other recipies such as any pure recipie or wet concrete

[zenith sage]

There's no shortcut to go straight to blueprint build menu, right? Or am I blind?

[ornate saffron]

as far as i can tell no.

BUT you can go to dissassemble mode set it to blue print and middle click to copy a blueprint already placed

[grizzled lotus]

I don't think so. Just add the blueprint to your hotbar like any building.

[ornate saffron]

you alsao can put Blueprints on your hot bar

[grizzled lotus]

that is helpful. I didn't know that.

[zenith sage]

Yeah, I did learn about that like 80h in 😅

I was watching some yt vid and had to rewind like 5 times cause I couldn't believe how I missed that

[ornate saffron]

You can scroll through your hotbars by holding alt and mouse wheeling

[leaden turret]

alternate take:

the birbs eat gnats not nuts

[ornate saffron]

completely possible.

[grizzled lotus]

is there some easy way I do not know about regarding finding a good spot for a factory with different items? That is, I want to make a high speed connector factory, and I'm just scanning for caterium and quartz (since I need those along with copper) and trying to find a good spot

[leaden turret]

you can build a factory wherever you want so long as you bring the resources to it

[mortal ginkgo]

All those 3 ores are mostly scattered around, especially caterium and quartz is ultra yolo when it comes to places.

You need to have a place (if you prefer, middle as possible) that you can get them via trains or drones.

[near nacelle]

Do you have dimensional depots? I have been using that and research the speed of uploading also the size of dimentional

[ornate saffron]

I started in Grassy fields this play through. I'm debating making the factory for those in thee purple forest above the Quartz, or move it to blue crater and do it there.

[mortal ginkgo]

I think you really goofed on what the question is 😛

[ornate saffron]

Im pretty sure the whole point of that production line is to get you used to long range logistics

[grizzled lotus]

dimensional depots don't help with managing inputs for factories. great for filling your inventory though

[grizzled lotus]

that's the thing, I hate long range logistics more the longer I play

[finite mirage]

is it better to create a giant factory for one primary thing and processing it as necessary or using specific nodes for specific things as necessary?

[grizzled lotus]

example?

[grizzled lotus]

the purple forst is the elevated one with a lot of leaves and the long river. but what's blue crater?

[finite mirage]

i need to make motors, i have a small steel factory, should i make a giant steel factory or make a dedicated small steel factory for motors

[ruby jay]

Nothern forest spawn had Quartz and Caterium at really nice distance

[near nacelle]

Steel is used for a decent amount of products so I would make a big factory

[barren tulip]

wet concrete is a great recipe fr

[white dawn]

IMO just make more steel wherever it's needed

[ornate saffron]

its preference. I personally rather Plan pout what i need and build specifically for that use. the more i plan in advance the more quanties of items i need. For example i currently need 15computers/min. But it i extend my planning into pahse 4 i may need 40 computers a minute. It depends of far ahead i plan. Once ive settle on a plan and what resources and parts needed i execute. building factories for that purpose where the resourcese are then move the parts to where they are needed

[white dawn]

(which tends to be my advice in general, not just for steel :)

[barren tulip]

something i found surprisingly useful is making a train loop that goes around the map, put a station on the corners and you can use the train for long range transport

[grizzled lotus]

generally it's better and easier in the long run if you make a dedicated motor factory, instead of using your existing steel factory. Your existing steel factory should fill up storages so you can pick them up whenever you need. Hope this answers your question.

[coral marsh]

Gotta love making too many dark matter crystals lol, I recently setup a production line to make singularity cells and because the "dark matter crystallization" alt recipe is such a quick cycle, I have some overflow going to an idle drone port and the rest going to an industrial storage container.

[barren tulip]

can't relate, i'm not that far yet 😭

[ornate saffron]

I find myself falling into the same building patterns as my previous runs. So i started giving myself restriction or goals. Last save i Only built a train station hub once per biome. no runs between nodes and factories. I had to find other ways to transport. This really changed my thoughts on truck's and drones. Having one train hub pre biome made me build out truck networks and rethink how i did things.

[finite mirage]

how much motor would one need in the long run?

[barren tulip]

interesting, the only restriction on this run of my game is that everything non-power related must be produced in the immediate vicinity of the HUB, it's supposed to be a megafactory but it's more like a big city of production atm

[neat lichen]

uhh guys, i made a hypertube launcher as one would for portable to-base transport but the problem is, it sends me at the exact angle which makes it so i cannot use the parachute to burn speed and so fast that the physics engine gives up and stops recognising that i'm falling because technically, i'm not losing altitude and i'm gaining it so fast that a 15 second trip is already fatal for me due to height limits, how do i burn speed mid flight?

[ornate saffron]

lots, build some for personal use then build what ever you need when you need it. For example when you need turbo motors make more regular motors then

[finite mirage]

i see

[ornate saffron]

Change the angle is use less hypertube entrances for less speed

[barren tulip]

fire at a higher angle?

[ornate saffron]

or just dont use the man cannon, I prefer Zipe lining along power towers

[neat lichen]

but if i change the angle i hit trees

[barren tulip]

chainsaw

[neat lichen]

you want me to chainsaw through like 500 trees?

[zenith sage]

Now I'm regretting forgetting a storage in my copper sheet depo production...

[barren tulip]

don't shoot through the trees, just fire a high arc

you do have a parachute, just use that so you don't die due to fall damage

[neat lichen]

if i fire at a higher arc then i go through the atmosphere before i die to heigh limits

[barren tulip]

i've got hypercannons that go across the map and they don't hit height limit

[neat lichen]

thats what i was doing before too but the needed velocity+minimum angle to clear trees makes it so that i go foooooo and clear the atmosphere

[neat lichen]

wait... i'll just place a lower arc high speed cannon above the trees

thanks

[barren tulip]

hmm, maybe make a platform to put it on?

[ornate saffron]

you could lower the angle and raise the foundations the cannon sits on

[neat lichen]

i just said that but thank you

anyways, time to clear the atmosphere one last time

[zenith sage]

It's starting to look pretty neat, I think my hatred towards refineries is slowly fading
#screenshots message

[neat lichen]

oh and i have a power tower route but i can't be bothered to take it

[neat lichen]

does the last refinery in the loop even get any liquids

or anything at all

that source-to-endpoint latency must be like 15 minutes

[barren tulip]

nice

[neat lichen]

i'm planning to do something similar and i was just going to suspend multiple source-lines above head and drop it down

but otherwise pretty good

[barren tulip]

hypercannons do basically take over zipline routes due to how fast and versatile they are

[ornate saffron]

I like deciding on a theme for a build then making a BP of refineries already decorated. FOundations clipping through the refineries and such to make them look completely diffrent, I hate looking at refineries lol

[ornate saffron]

the game has lots of possible down time. Im okay with taking it slow along power routes

[neat lichen]

i'm not, EFFICIENCY 100

[barren tulip]

that's... fair enough actually, maybe i'm taking it too fast then

[neat lichen]

SPEED IS REQUIRED

[zenith sage]

Hm? Elaborate...
I just made it like this cause each loop requires exactly 600 m3 of oil...

[neat lichen]

wait... i'm thinking of conveyer manifolds

dw

don't mind my dumbass

[zenith sage]

Thank god

But still.. what? It's a thing for belts?

[ornate saffron]

often you are waiting for Manifolds to wind up, pipes to fill, fluids to settle. Its okay to take it slow. Stretch, find some collectables, Look at architecture insperation while things happen.

[barren tulip]

i tend to just watch a youtube video or something to pass the time, or perhaps work on something else

[neat lichen]

i mean i try to keep it as low as possible so that if i have downtime, the wind up time is as low as possible

it happens quite often in my power gens

i literally need 3GW of power just to run basic aluminium production and everything before it

[primal obsidian]

rookie numbers

[neat lichen]

tf you mean rookie numbers

[barren tulip]

3GW??? 300k MW??

[primal obsidian]

once I had one machine using 20 GW

[neat lichen]

isn't 1GW 1000MW?

[primal obsidian]

yes

[barren tulip]

oh

in that case, 3GW is acceptable

[neat lichen]

i... dont think that possible unless its literally a particle accelerator

i have 2.75GW production capacity INCLUDING MY COAL GENS

[ornate saffron]

I usually finish the game with a TW of power

[neat lichen]

WHAT

1000000MW?

i'm still on fuel gen

[barren tulip]

i'm only like 20% there rn

[ornate saffron]

🙂‍↕️

[neat lichen]

i don't know where i'm at

i'm at alumina production startup

[ornate saffron]

im on packaged deliuted fuel atm with 22gw lol but im still real early

[neat lichen]

oh yeah, i forgot about that

[barren tulip]

i'm at factory spool hell rn, nuclear fuel production, consumption, and recycling

[neat lichen]

doesn't diluted fuel just literally duplicate fuel?

[ornate saffron]

I hear doggos like Nuclear

[neat lichen]

anyways i still need to find the space to increase fuel gen numbers

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, its a trick that doctors doesn't want you to know!

[golden nexus]

kinda

[neat lichen]

i need to get water for that shit

[mortal ginkgo]

water.. ugh..

[neat lichen]

which is saddening because i need to get another line of resource

[primal obsidian]

I beat the game with 240-300 GW depending on how the grid feels

[mortal ginkgo]

why dont we got impure limestone node + fuel recipes?

[neat lichen]

ok zealot, take a seat

[ornate saffron]

you can Over clock for more density. I tend to do that but not this time. Imma make a city ontop of my fuel gens and have the smoke from the stacks come out of ground vents into the streets

[golden nexus]

I make rocket fuel from limestone 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

#nobias

[neat lichen]

i do not have unlimited shards

[primal obsidian]

soon

[ornate saffron]

Impure thoughts must be purified

[neat lichen]

tf you mean soon

[primal obsidian]

dw

[mortal ginkgo]

and make fuels!

[unkempt blade]

rock[et?] fuel

[neat lichen]

i know about arti shards

[ornate saffron]

me niether But i do have 500plus. I sloop all my slugs

[neat lichen]

.....

[golden nexus]

yes

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop them purple slugs bru

[neat lichen]

quite loitering, back to ficsit initiatives

[mortal ginkgo]

REEEEEEEE

[golden nexus]

i use limestone to make more sulphur cause i ran out

[neat lichen]

YOU CAN DO THAT?

[mortal ginkgo]

Converters

[golden nexus]

In T9 you can 🙂

[zenith sage]

Oh come on, it's perfectly in the middle, allow that at least hah
#screenshots message

[neat lichen]

..... i'm on T8 i think

[mortal ginkgo]

oh wait, dem spoilers

[unkempt blade]

don't sloop them! let them ride the conveyor carousel around your hub!

[ornate saffron]

end game tech allows you to convert sam plus a resource into another resource

[neat lichen]

..... fuckin hell

[barren tulip]

those things love to get in the way of building for absolutely no reason

[mortal ginkgo]

ok bro, go jail pls

[golden nexus]

its not cheap btw....

[unkempt blade]

don't hate on the carousel it really classes the place up

[ornate saffron]

carousals can really make a build pop

[barren tulip]

cam confirm, i have a nuclear pasta in a conveyor loop right outside my HAB

[ornate saffron]

We need a Ficsit and the Technicolored Slug event

[barren tulip]

also carousel for nuclear fuel rods go really hard

[mortal ginkgo]

what classed my base up was having carts going around delivr stuff. I still hate that the Stations are extremely chungus and carts still wait for delivery-animation...

[primal obsidian]

good idea

I have like a backlog of 3 containers worth of plutonium rods

[golden nexus]

thats a lot of points

[golden nexus]

FYI: Its 7,650,000 points per stack

[neat lichen]

ok...

[unkempt blade]

time to use it all as drone fuel!

[ornate saffron]

point are worthless at that point i thinks

[golden nexus]

Depends if you want a nut or not

[primal obsidian]

I’ve been doing that

[ornate saffron]

or how many nuts forsure, I got the nut in update 8 i no longer need again

[barren tulip]

i am looking to do that sometime, probably alongside the procrastination project of all time

[primal obsidian]

but I have too much train infrastructure for me to resist just using those for everything

[unkempt blade]

trains, drones, and nuclear power? you're living the dream!

[ornate saffron]

Im at work alt tabbing to scan harddrives and chatting with you folks..... Im paid to sit here today

i still need to be able to get up at a momnets notice. but it will be a long shift

[primal obsidian]

I also have a factory for alien power augmenter thingamajig

[barren tulip]

how much MW of boost?

[primal obsidian]

although o think it’s broken because of a missed train

[barren tulip]

aww

[primal obsidian]

uhh like 70-80 or something and less if it’s not working

70-80 GW

[barren tulip]

pretty good

[primal obsidian]

cant take all the credit though it was me and 2 other people on the world mainly

nuclear was all me though

well igreous helped me with one minor train issue

[ornate saffron]

someone needs to be sacrificed to the excited Electron god

[primal obsidian]

wth does this mean

[barren tulip]

me too, my friend did a LOT
i did most of the fuel rod production and placed most of the nuclear plants, while he did all of the water and uranium transport

[primal obsidian]

well the 1st and 2nd stage of nuclear were all me igreous did the singularity cells for the ficsonium fuel rods

[barren tulip]

i am not yet that far, i haven't unlocked phase 4
-# he did 100% of the materials up to this point

[primal obsidian]

it’s phase 5 but ok

[ornate saffron]

Im still on phase 3 project parts. ill get there after work.

[mortal ginkgo]

You could be faster if you believed in impure limestone node supremacy

but alas 😔

[primal obsidian]

pure limestone node better

[mortal ginkgo]

Your folly is only your UNDOING.

[ornate saffron]

you know i do. Ive only tapped to nodes both are impure lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Oi. Mods. Here is the heretic.

[mortal ginkgo]

You didn't tap them hard enough! Tap them like you MEAN it!

[primal obsidian]

impure limestone node killed my early game encased beam production