satisfactory

[exotic frigate]

Is this every input and output for each step of your aluminum factory?

[reef basin]

why compress it if you can just hook it to machines directly?

[exotic frigate]

If so, Just focus on one step at a time

[lament wraith]

thats just the output

[exotic frigate]

Why is there.. so much? Is all that throughput entirely aluminum scrap???

[queen slate]

I don’t understand this

[exotic frigate]

If so- how?

[lament wraith]

thats just aluminum scrap

[exotic frigate]

Bro got the update with extra bauxite patches

[versed cosmos]

bro leave some aluminium for the rest of us god damn

[lament wraith]

im useing 12000 bauxite

[exotic frigate]

Like I said earlier, blueprints, trucks, or trains are your friend

[versed cosmos]

there are conveyor compressor designs online

[lament wraith]

i got it all to one place and prosessing just need to turn it into ingots

[dense violet]

use the belts as they are by clocking machines.
if you must over flow some belts to other sections.
I wouldn't bother with that though, just clock the outputs and you can have even belts in the next step if yo uwant

[exotic frigate]

Then make a huge factory for it, and process it one step at a time, or one section at a time

[reef basin]

if you hooked it directly, you'd have it by now 😛

[lament wraith]

manly bc i alredy have belts of 1k silka and the balance to the foundry's is 1k silka to 1.2k alumnum scrap

[exotic frigate]

If you go into these big projects expecting to do everything youll get overwhelmed

Honestly at this point, id go hard drive hunting and rolling for the pure aluminum ingots recpie

[dense violet]

so clock your machines and over flow as needed. I don't know w hat the issue is here

[exotic frigate]

You need it

[fickle axle]

where can i report bug

[dense violet]

other than a lesson in planning several steps together to get your clocking right

[exotic frigate]

Probably on the satisfactory website

[dense violet]

#faq

[fickle axle]

thank you

[fickle axle]

thank you

[lament wraith]

i alredy have brought in the 20k silica

[exotic frigate]

Yeah but your factory would be a millio. Times simpler with the pure recipe, i swear it. And youll get even more aluminum

[hard ivy]

Pure alu gives you less aluminium than default

[unkempt blade]

the key to satisfactory is to make it as unsimple as possible so you can flex on people

[dense violet]

so use the belts as they are, clock the machines as needed, overflow things to mesh together. It's easy

[lament wraith]

with silica i get 18k ingots without you get 12k

[gritty zealot]

this is a question for everyone here, how much modular frames per minute do you usually try to produce?

[versed cosmos]

usually make 10/min because the numbers just work out very cleanly

240 iron ore/min in

[dusk iris]

Man how to hypnotize ppl into playing satisfactory

[exotic frigate]

Really? Damn

[versed cosmos]

then i build my factory for heavy frames around this factory

use the encased frame alt recipe clocked to 133.33 repeating and the numbers again work out very cleanly

[unkempt blade]

show them an impressive pile of conveyor spaghetti and let it work its hypnotic magic

[reef basin]

if you ignore the fact that you can't do .33 repeating 🙂

[versed cosmos]

well i can do 3.75 heavy frames/min

that's 133.33% and it seems to work without issues

[reef basin]

the numbers in UI are rounded

[versed cosmos]

i assume any issues that would arise take so long to show up that theyre practically meaningless

[reef basin]

but the error is small, so it only happens e.g. once in a couple of hours

[unkempt blade]

I'm rounded too from all this ficsmas candy 🙁

[reef basin]

but some people just like to have 100% match on their numbers, not 99.99%

[versed cosmos]

and i run all the resources through a line of smart splitters before the manufacturer and i have an overflow going to sink

[spare cradle]

I think I need quick wire before I continue (so I can get smart splitters)

[exotic frigate]

Im one of those people, but my turbo fuel generators arent cooperating >:/

[versed cosmos]

smart splitters feel pretty essential tbh

[exotic frigate]

Wish they were a default setting

[versed cosmos]

100%

logistics mk2 or 3

[gritty zealot]

im around 600 hours in and ive never used one, what are they used for?

[versed cosmos]

you can filter items to go to specific outputs

[exotic frigate]

Its unlocked in the caterium tree

[gritty zealot]

i understand that, but WHAT are they used for

[versed cosmos]

sending overflow to sink

[exotic frigate]

You can also set outputs as overflow!

[unkempt blade]

mostly for overflowing stuff to sinks when storage is full, occasionally for sweatier conveyor stuff

[gritty zealot]

and where do you use THAT

[gritty zealot]

oh

[reef basin]

to... sink overflow

[hard ivy]

That's way more useful than the filtering tbh

[exotic frigate]

I use it in oil setups to get rid of excess residue by turning it into coke

Or sinking excess resin

[exotic frigate]

I used the filtering exactly once in my slug crusher 9000

[versed cosmos]

oh hey i just hit 800 hours

never finished phase 4 though!

yknow im on phase 4 now and that new game button is looking real tempting

[crisp barn]

how would you go about a big problematic fluid manifold?

[exotic frigate]

Dont! You have so much to live for!

[reef basin]

what's problematic?

[versed cosmos]

uuuugh but i dont wanna make radio control units

[exotic frigate]

Break it up into manageable chunks

[unkempt blade]

I'd make it less problematic but that's just me

[exotic frigate]

Like sections of 4-8 buildings at a time

[crisp barn]

Well, for some reason it doesnt fully use the input

[reef basin]

did you loop the pipe?

[crisp barn]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Here's my approach to tunnels and logistics #screenshots message , Figured I'd say something since @dense violet mentioned me 😛

[reef basin]

vertically?

[crisp barn]

I also prefilled everything

[exotic frigate]

Add on one more machine and underclock it

[unkempt blade]

are you using mk2 or mk1 pipes?

[crisp barn]

mk2

[unkempt blade]

I'd check for little stubs of mk1

[crisp barn]

I dont use mk1 pipes anywhere

[unkempt blade]

then it sounds like your math might be incorrect

[crisp barn]

basically, even tho it has 600/m, refineries in the middle are starving and the fuel input is overflowing

something in the manifold is being a bottleneck

[unkempt blade]

is there a solid output you're not clearing away fast enough?

or liquid too I guess

[crisp barn]

I suspected sloshing but I have prefilled it completely multiple times

[crisp barn]

no, everything is clearing in time

[exotic frigate]

Check the flow rates in all the pipes. Limit the flow rates to only whats necessary after junctions

Using valves*

[indigo pond]

when you first get the dimensional depot is its limit 200 stacks or 200 items

[exotic frigate]

1 stack of items

The stack size is determined per item

[indigo pond]

thats real shitty

[hard ivy]

Where did you even get 200?

[indigo pond]

i opened it and it said max 200

[hard ivy]

It refills itself so it doesn't really matter

[exotic frigate]

Probably iron plates

[exotic frigate]

You can upgrade it

[indigo pond]

i saw

but only by like 5 stacks

kinda shitty

[exotic frigate]

The real power is upload speed

[reef basin]

you don't really ever need more than 5 stacks of something at once

[stone fern]

devs did a good job optimizing the game

[indigo pond]

i realize that but i thought id be able to put like 1 stack of everything in

[exotic frigate]

Because once that baby hits 1/s the stack size becomes somewhat meaningless unless youre doing a monumental amount of work in a short burst

[indigo pond]

just incase

[reef basin]

you are able to put 5 stacks of everything

when upgraded

the limit is per item, not global

[indigo pond]

wait wait wait

so i can put 1 STACK of everyhting right now?

[reef basin]

yes

[exotic frigate]

Yeah

[indigo pond]

ok, i misunderstood

thats busted

[reef basin]

agreed

[white dawn]

(Slight caveat that you can accidentally create blueprints which can exceed Depot storage stack limits. Power Storage, for instance, eats through Wire like a monster)

[indigo pond]

i literally just unlocked it so i was confused

[exotic frigate]

If you unlock manual uploading, you can upload from your inventory and poof! Enderchest

[reef basin]

just another reason to never use power storage

[indigo pond]

i feel power storage is pretty dumb, just math right when you use gens and youll never need it

[indigo pond]

i did really like that feature

[exotic frigate]

I just make enough power, have supply lines for power separate from production. Easy

Power storage is useful if you need to turn your generators back on

*accidentally deletes the power tower that carries power to literally everything*

[white dawn]

I wouldn't go so far as to call it dumb; some folks just like having a backup for when they make silly mistakes. :D

[reef basin]

priority power switch 🙂

[white dawn]

I actually still like making "emergency" offline power-grid-kickstart power storages when I build out new power, even though I've never actually tripped a power grid since my first playthrough. :D

[odd remnant]

I haven't played since November and I forgot what I was doing lol I think I was trying to do a railroad across the map but idk

[white dawn]

Sometimes it's fun to build stuff just for the sake of it, of course. :P

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, although I've been avoiding those for awhile 'cause I got too annoyed by the hoverpack bug

[odd remnant]

I'm lost and confused lol

[wicked nacelle]

power in this game is incredibly simplified to the point of nearly being a joke. It's more of a chore than a challenge

[odd remnant]

Gotta have a degree to understand it

[white dawn]

Anyway, for sure kind of in the same boat as Central Storage, but they can be fun to build out anyway. :P

[wicked nacelle]

no?

[odd remnant]

Yes gotta have a PhD

[wicked nacelle]

k

[odd remnant]

What's with your attitude little bro

[white dawn]

I mean, power in this game is Just Another Production Line. Except instead of a physical resource you've got a "virtual" resource which makes everything else work.

[indigo pond]

bro fell for the ragebait

[wicked nacelle]

k

[odd remnant]

Rage bait is for kids who have nothing to do lol

[white dawn]

By the same token, all factories are more a chore than a challenge, if you think of 'em that way. :)

[odd remnant]

k

[exotic frigate]

This game is meant for newer players to the factory sim genre

[white dawn]

Power is just Moar Factory To Build™. Win/win, as far as I'm concerned.

[indigo pond]

i wont fall for such low tier rage bait

[exotic frigate]

People new to the genre get overwhelmed when thrown into factorio

[odd remnant]

I didn't know guess I'm mentally challenged to understand childs humor

[wicked nacelle]

that's clearly the approach they took when rebalancing 1.0, for sure

[odd remnant]

Factorio is harder ngl

At least starting off

[indigo pond]

im 24 🙁

[odd remnant]

Explains a lot

It's okay buddy

[indigo pond]

you must be unc

[white dawn]

I still don't buy that 1.0 made the game into "easy mode"

[odd remnant]

Idk bro idk even know what planet I'm on

[exotic frigate]

It is. Its the game you go to when youre comfortable with factory Sim games

[white dawn]

Depots solved one particular problem, but it was by some measures an unpopular problem for folks to solve anyway. I didn't mind not having Depots personally, but I've also found I don't actually miss solving those problems

APAs give you some free power, sure, but I don't think those are game changer, especially given the exploration you've got to do to get their resources

[wicked nacelle]

rocket fuel. simplified recipies. depot. sloops. basically the whole game was dumbified

[white dawn]

By tiny degrees though

[wicked nacelle]

to sell more copies. which I get... but still

[exotic frigate]

Factorio has more complex recipe chains, logistics, and mechanics. It doesnt screw you over, but its a jump in difficulty. Not to mention the biters being a ticking clock

[white dawn]

My 1.0 playthrough was still like 200+ hours; there is still plenty to do

Like, yeah, I'm not arguing that some things weren't made easier

But it's not like it's suddenly "oh, dumb mode."

I accept that there's folks who feel that way, but IMO they're just wrong. :)

[wicked nacelle]

the point was to give people that thought the game was too hard an easy to way "win". drone power, too. But the problem is most people play within the rules they are given and when you allow people to take shortcuts they do

[odd remnant]

It's challenging at first but if you pay atttention it gets easier as time goes on.

[white dawn]

And my point is that none of the "shortcuts" are at all game-breaking

[wicked nacelle]

honestly I'm shocked they didn't introduce fluid sinks

[indigo pond]

why dont you just play the way YOU want to play and let others enjoy the game how they want

[wicked nacelle]

if you read what I said you'd notice that I didn't say I couldn't

[white dawn]

Yes, they make some things easier, but whatever; there is still plenty of game that provides nice challenge and time/effort commitments

[exotic frigate]

For normal mode at least. Space age keeps the game complex with the planets and space platform challenges.

[white dawn]

I didn't feel "pandered to" at all during my 1.0 playthrough, and IMO most of the changes were neutral at worst

[indigo pond]

i read the message, you just sound bitter. making a very non-issue something bigger

[magic rune]

...how curious. purging most of my saved-but-inactive firefox tabs (in particular, tabs related to SCIM of all things) seems to have fully resolved the "watching a video in firefox makes SF lag like crap" problem i've been having.

[exotic frigate]

Satisfactory feels like a really nice, light snack to chew on.

[wicked nacelle]

no, that's just somthing youre projecting

[white dawn]

Most of my "complaints" were for stuff that kind of made logical sense previously but less so now, like removing Batteries from MFGs

Or HMFs from trains

[wicked nacelle]

I'm capable of discussing the situation objectively and still controlling my own playthroughs

[white dawn]

But eh, whatever -- having trains a bit earlier is handy, and didn't impact my enjoyment of the game

And MFGs were already easysauce, so no big loss there. :)

[exotic frigate]

Most of mine are with the building system. I wish there was true copy/paste mostly

[brazen coral]

Is it better to make ionized fuel through the converter with dark matter Crystal recipe or the normal recipe?

[odd remnant]

I haven't played Space Age yet but I will this year, I heard it's a bit more complex than the base game

[wicked nacelle]

whichever is better for you is better. I usually use default recipe but... ??

[exotic frigate]

Each planet is its own unique automation challenge that changes the way you approach your factory. Its very lovely game design.

[tranquil zinc]

for two input production like the assembler, If one materials backs up, does it stop production?? Even though there are two input areas?

[grim carbon]

how do i find an activated fracking satelitle node?

[versed cosmos]

alt recipes are almost never a clear case of one being better than the other. they're trade-offs

[wicked nacelle]

though sometimes the tradeoffs are drastically one sided in terms of what people usually want.

[odd remnant]

Can't wait to try it out due to that reason. But the only thing I don't like is the pricing of the DLC doesn't go down even on the biggest sales like on Steam. Overall its worth it though

[magic rune]

...except for cast screws, which literally just skips an entire step in the process with the same throughput

[wicked nacelle]

"uses more water" for example isn't a tradeoff most people care about

[tranquil zinc]

cause I don't understand why my 5 line of assemblers, sometimes the middle 2 and 3 stops producing

[reef basin]

and removes possibility to use rod alts

[wicked nacelle]

click on them and look -- either they're out of input or full of output

[brazen coral]

I mean making the dark energy. Crystal seems simpler because you use a lot more stuff just trying to get The synthetic power gems takes more materials, but even then you still have to set up something that produces the dark amount of residue

[exotic frigate]

Its worth it in my opinion. It basically quadrupled the size of the game

[tranquil zinc]

I did, it says one input iis full, the second input is empty (even though conveyer line shows items)

[wicked nacelle]

the amount of ionized fuel you need is tiny so whatever makes some is good enough 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

then you're looking at something wrong

[brazen coral]

I'm running purely off of fuel through part 5, haven't even set up nuclear power cuz it's just too much of a setup at the moment to get it in running order

[tranquil zinc]

its for the modular frame, I think its because the reinforced plate is backing up the input lane, even though there are 2 input lanes

[reef basin]

which means that I can't use e.g. steel rod -> base screw, which costs very small amount of resources (and is therefore "resource efficient")

[brazen coral]

I mean I'll get fixonium eventually but whenever I'm able to run through nuclear power to get to that part

[tranquil zinc]

so my question is, does the 2 input design is only just for show?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't understand what you're asking/saying

[tranquil zinc]

if one input is backup up, it can't take the second input?

[odd remnant]

I'm still thinking if I should get it on PC the DLC -- or just get both the game and DLC on the Switch 2 due to portability.

[wicked nacelle]

are you trying to do sushi belts? Items on a belt won't reorder themselves if that's what you're asking

the normal approach is each item type gets its own belt

[brazen coral]

Unless you want to deal with a fully overclocked turbo diamond then you kind of have to do sushi belts lol

[sterile blade]

Sounds like there's something blocking items from going into the machine. Probably am unexpected item right up the machine's input, hard to see.
Use your dismantle tool to ascertain the content of the belt

[tranquil zinc]

No. let me explain. I have a 5 row of assemblers to create modular frames. One conveyer is providing reinforced plates while the other is providing rods. #2 and #3 assembler is stuck and not doing anything

[wicked nacelle]

are you sure you didn't put the wrong thing on some belts and it's backed up? often you can't see it. Delete and rebuild the belts going into the machiens

[tranquil zinc]

if I just rechoose the recipe, will it remove "unwanted" items if there are?

[wicked nacelle]

I mean you can just grab the parts out of the machine, too. Yes, either will do it I think

[tranquil zinc]

or will it stay there and will back up again?

[sterile blade]

Not if they're on the belt as I theorized...

[wicked nacelle]

no, it will pull it in if you remove the items from the machine buffer

[lost oasis]

Guys i got 2 train stations and freight platforms all of them ale placed correctly all the rails also.It says station is unreachable. Im moving plastic and like 5freight cars whats the issue?

[wicked nacelle]

if the part that's backing it up is in the recipe, then just clearing the machine's internal buffer will ingest the blocking part. if it's NOT in the recipe, then it won't ingest it

[wicked nacelle]

your train station is probably backwards

[lost oasis]

No it actually isnt

[wicked nacelle]

well, it probably is

why don't you post a screenshot

[lost oasis]

Isnt it because the rails are too steep?

Im so far from it now

[wicked nacelle]

no that's not an error you'd get from that

[wicked nacelle]

well, when you get back there then post a screenshot 🙂

[green fiber]

How should we know.
Usually if rails are too steep you dont get an error, your train just starts driving and gets stuck because the locomotive isnt strong enough.

Just need another loc to fix that if it WERE the issue

But thats not the error

[wicked nacelle]

station is unreachable is a graph problem -- it means there's literally no path for thr train to take to dock correctly

[lost oasis]

Well it will take me some time, cant use hybertubes because i created some chernobyl shit on my save so the power is out

[tranquil zinc]

thanks, i rechose the recipe now and it worked.

[wicked nacelle]

throw down some bioburners

[lost oasis]

I will just slide n jump

Ur just barely slower than the train

[wicked nacelle]

are you playing a legit copy of the game?

[tranquil zinc]

yes, from steam. Why?

[lost oasis]

Yk for big hypertubes you need like a shit ton of power

[wicked nacelle]

sometimes people playing... less legit... versions are playing on 1.0.xxx versions that had a bug with belts

[zenith gazelle]

Does anyone have the Default HEX codes for Swatch 8 after 1.0 release? The wiki wasn't updated with the new defaults.

[wicked nacelle]

can't you just start a fresh save and look?

[brazen coral]

They should totally add a train lift, hills are stupid to make.

[versed cosmos]

#F9E000
#33AB9C

[wicked nacelle]

You can have a dropoff at the top of a cliff, then belt down, then pick up below

[zenith gazelle]

Yea and go through the whole tutorial section until i unlock the painting option

[wicked nacelle]

nah, AGS -- you can create a "creative mode" game

[zenith gazelle]

THANK YOU MY GOD...

[zenith gazelle]

Huh?

[wicked nacelle]

you can start a new game skipping the intro and everything unlocked

[brazen coral]

I mean that's what I already do right now. It'd be simpler to move the whole train than a bunch of belts up

[wicked nacelle]

IK usually use a helix

[zenith gazelle]

OhOh totally fair, had no idea. I looked everywhere online, and the wiki being out of date for something so simple was frustrating, but I guess that gets overruled when your solution was just simpler hahaha

[wicked nacelle]

it's useful to have a "creative mode" game for testing out a few different things... so I usually have one sitting around 🙂

[zenith gazelle]

Might look into it, right now my generators need water 🤽 🚱, thanks again.

[brazen coral]

And I actually did start my train up really high but the problem with being really high is blueprints don't go up vertically as much as I want them to

I mean I could continually put conveyor lifts with the conveyor holes and attach them to that to continue on but even so

Gets messed up after so long

[wicked nacelle]

to build my helixes I make a zooped stack of 4m foundations up as high as I need to go them I have an "arm" blueprint that I just keep rotating 90 degrees and go up ... I think 4x4M foundations each arm? it works pretty quick then just connect the rail sections on each "arm" ....

[magic rune]

the secret is vertical modularity, yeah

[wicked nacelle]

if you put a vertical splitter on them you can then delete the nub of the first lift and put another full height lift on it then repeat

[brazen coral]

I'm actually able to use the Mark 3 blueprint currently

[wicked nacelle]

you don't need any walls/holes to make an infinite height lift

[brazen coral]

That's the thing I unlocked last

For an infinite height lift, essentially you just need to put one hole either at the top or the bottom of the lift and connect the middle

[wicked nacelle]

yeah then you have a bunch of walls... so whichever works 🙂

neither is as nice as if they just made it so you could make them as tall as you wanted the 'normal' way

[magic rune]

well, ADA did say that complaints about the blueprint maker size are a #skillissue...

[wicked nacelle]

ada can screw off. it has no power over me

talks a big game and that's it

[odd remnant]

Is there a way to clear off items from the selection wheel? I have blueprints that got removed when I had to uninstall and reinstall

I'm assuming not

[green fiber]

Which selection wheel

Quickswitch when building blueprints ?

[odd remnant]

Yeah the quickswitch when building sorry I forgot what it was called

[green fiber]

Blueprints within the same subcategory get put on the same wheel

[brazen coral]

I think I'm currently running off of... 90 fuel generators, only 20 of those are ionized fuel at the moment until I can convert them all

[odd remnant]

Yeah but I had to restart my PC due to an issue and when I loaded the game after the reinstall my bluerprints got deleted

I wish they had the option to edit it

For all the stuff you add on the Quickswitch

[green fiber]

I dont get what the problem is. Does it show blueprints that no longer exist ?

[odd remnant]

Correct

All my blueprints went bye-bye

[green fiber]

Cant help there other than "go check your files directly "

It seems to still find some remainign files after all

[odd remnant]

Idk if I can I had to do a factory reset on my PC without backup cause of an Intel drivers update that ruined my PC and I had to do a reboot of Windows

[magic valley]

Anyone familiar with the steam Satisfactory Modeler? I'm a bit confused and need some help.

[green fiber]

You can try. Blueprint files are saved near the actual save file location

[odd remnant]

It's fine though, I will redo them again, I remember my designs I made

[green fiber]

Should be linked in #faq

[odd remnant]

I will check that out

Thanks

Ohh I found it, it was saved in my one drive file, I made a copy of it a while back ago

Thanks bro @green fiber

[hard ivy]

What's the issue?

[reef basin]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[magic valley]

I'm doing Singularity cells. Trying to get it to 50/min. When I type 50 in the box for cells. Nothing happens.

I posted screen caps in #design-and-architecture

[brazen coral]

I'm only just getting production of those ready, took a lot more materials than I was expecting.

Is there any alternate recipe to that or is that just it?

[lost oasis]

How to get time crystals?

[versed cosmos]

Got all the alts I need for aluminium so I can't keep delaying it 😭

[drowsy kelp]

Look at the recipe in the codex (press O)

Or you can use quick search by pressing N to open the codex page directly

[lost oasis]

Cant find them

[versed cosmos]

Then you don't have them unlocked yet

They're a late game resource

[rain hollow]

How many nobelisks is too many nobelisks?

[lost oasis]

Is it tier 9?

[whole drum]

That's actually pretty cool. 🙂

[versed cosmos]

think so

[lost oasis]

Damn im just on tier 8 getting those plutonium things

[rain hollow]

I think I just found the mother load of all power slugs

[grizzled lotus]

I think I might like manifolds just because it's less to think about

[versed cosmos]

You can do a load balancer or you can actually beat the game

Eventually you get to a point of complexity where load balancers become an enormous headache if you're actually going to commit to them

[fading whale]

I use them too (manifolds). Usually do my intended setup. But don't connect the outputs. Then let everything fill up as I'm doing other stuff. Come back and connect outputs. Off we go.

[spark sky]

Well, you can pre-load the machines, if you have the materials, that will reduce the wait time for all the machines to start producing. Personally, I like load balancers, now that I can make blueprints and vertical load balancers.

[fading whale]

A cave with blue slugs? 🙂

[rain hollow]

Seven of them

The map is the same for everyone isn't it

[fading whale]

Yup 🙂

[rain hollow]

Still good either way

[grizzled lotus]

part of my amazement of this game. the map is huge and well-designed. and huge.

[fading whale]

Yeah. Hannah is an artist.

[rain hollow]

One thing that annoys me is I'm constantly running out of space in my factory so I keep having to add more floors

It's gonna be in the sky by phase 3 at this rate

[fading whale]

Yeaaaaah. Join the club 😄

[grizzled lotus]

is there some trick to have a tractor load different items? want to make a complex part and thinking of using tractors

[rain hollow]

Maybe try just loading only the items you want in the tractor into the truck station and nothing else

[grizzled lotus]

the other choice is having 3 different tractors hauling items.

or have the one tractor load item 1, unload it at factory, load item 2, unload it at factory, etc

[fading whale]

Would be difficult. Probably easier to just have more trucks and stations.

[grizzled lotus]

yeah that's kind of the thing. want to make crystal oscillators, and thinking about how to get the 3 items together

[rain hollow]

Usually iron and copper aren't crazy far so if you built the setup there then you'd only need to transport quartz

And if you want everything in one place then you can transport the finished product to a storage warehouse

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you either have to load at exactly the right ratios or you have to have overflow to an awesome sink

[whole drum]

If you use the alt recipe, you only need access to oil and caterium

Well, and the quartz ofc

[grizzled lotus]

I'm just gonna use stupid long belts this time

[rain hollow]

That's what I usually do for everything

[whole drum]

I use belts for everything as I'm the most familiar with them thanks to my childhood

[grizzled lotus]

tractors are actually convenient for coal stuff such as steel. they also look cool and are very reliable. not as bad as I initially thought

[rain hollow]

I'mma go set up production for doing phase 2

[rain hollow]

Damn

[dense violet]

ask in their discord

[hazy void]

if it says i need 25 screws but below it it says 100 per minute would that mean i need 2500 screws per minute? (rotor recipe)

[drowsy kelp]

No

25 screws per craft, each craft takes some amount of time

That averages out to 100 screws a minute

[hazy void]

ohhhhhh

[fading whale]

You need 25 pr output cycle (1, 2, 5 or whatever it says). And the total is 100 pr minute.

[whole drum]

For the most part, you only really need to look at the parts per minute to know how to feed your machines

[hazy void]

i was not gonna make that many

[fading whale]

So it does 4 outputs cycles pr minute in this case.

[whole drum]

It shows on the machine what the cycle time is too

[hazy void]

ok thank you

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to see all my alt recipes?

[dense violet]

codex

[grizzled lotus]

I know I have to pick the part, can I see all of the alt recipes in one list?

[hard ivy]

The save editor has a list of all recipes with the ones you have marked as such

[zealous urchin]

@sterile blade u need medical treatment

[sterile blade]

More sushi is the only solution

[whole drum]

🍣

[zealous urchin]

honestly

mad work

realisticaly

👻

so

when sushi train?

[whole drum]

☕

[leaden turret]

-# if css wanted to support sushi belting, they wouldn't have removed all the fish

[unique pewter]

#off-topic-media message
Satisfactory ah experience

[whole drum]

Or they would give us pickers

[leaden turret]

looks at smart/programmable splitters

[whole drum]

Not quite the same, but the closest we have

[unique pewter]

Except we use some magnet thing instead of real zip lines

[sterile blade]

Not in this run... 😅

[primal obsidian]

whats the longest train you can make

[sterile blade]

There is no real limit on that

You'd probably run out of hardware juice before you ran out of map to fill with rails and trains

[grizzled lotus]

why is the alt recipe oil -> h.oil + polymer resin good? I heard it was really good but I Can't tell why

[sullen gull]

Because many other recipes run off of Heavy oil residue.

[grizzled lotus]

but I can produce plastic or rubber which will also produce hod

[sullen gull]

The amount of oil required for build like that, to produce enough HOR for other things, is WAY more than if using the HOR alt.

[hard ivy]

It's one of the recipes needed for the most efficient chains for fuel, plastic and rubber

[sullen gull]

For rubber and plastic, the recycled alts in a loop would be the more "efficient" way to create those items.

[zealous urchin]

u just get so much stuff

[dense violet]

oil to hor to dilute fuel to recycled plubber is about 450% the plubber output of base recipes

[grizzled lotus]

I'm looking at the recipes, the only thing that can be produced from HOR is fuel and petro cake

[sterile blade]

Satisfactory players be like: HOR durr, recycling is best cycling 🤓

[grizzled lotus]

soooo, I end up producing more plastic? I'll try to get it running

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch hor

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hor

[zealous urchin]

WE LOVE HOR RECYCLING PLUBBER

(let me out)

[grizzled lotus]

anything specific I should look at?

[dense violet]

about 4.5x more xD

[hard ivy]

I'm just saying there's a few more things that can be made from HOR

[odd remnant]

How do you delete blueprints?

Anyone know how

[dense violet]

change to blueprint mode when deleting.

[dense violet]

compare https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Q93pLtXR3wwpWfvNaXeZ

and https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=rAWQW3PnVOzTcitjycQm

[odd remnant]

Ohh okay I see it now, thanks. Yeah I accidently created two at the same time by accident

[grizzled lotus]

wow, didn't think things could get that complicated with alt recipes

eitherway, I don't have the recycled plubber recipes. I'm guessing plastic recipe produces more than residual plastic

is turbofuel worth making for power generation?

[hollow hemlock]

You may want to try out the satisfactory modeler (free on steam), then you can run the hypotheticals for any combo of alt recipes you feel like

[odd remnant]

Another question how do you name a category from the blueprints, I can't seem to edit it and change the name

[dense violet]

worth hunting
and turbo is fine? diluted fuel is easier and you stil get tons of power

[dense violet]

literally just game them tabs comparing hypotheticals

[odd remnant]

Could it be I'm on controller instead of keyboard and mouse?

[dense violet]

not sure sorry, maybe try #satisfactory-consoles ? might be more consoley people there

[odd remnant]

No PC bro

[dense violet]

ah right. Possibly? not familliar with controller support. Try plugging in the mnk

[odd remnant]

I probably need to change it back to mouse and keyboard to see if it let's me edit the subcategory I created in my blueprints

[sullen gull]

On PC, you click in the name area of the Sub category to change it.

[odd remnant]

Ohh okay that's what I figured thank you

[atomic shadow]

can somone help me i think i broke my brain on somthing really simple give me a dm

[dense violet]

just ask in here

[sullen gull]

Or you can just create a post in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

theres multiple sections on the server that convers essentially everythin

[real shale]

🟢

[grizzled lotus]

@dense violet how do I use the satisfactory tool to compare a line based on the platic recipe and a line based on the residual plastic recipe?

[dense violet]

make another tab. I shared you two links that would have generated 2 tabs

[dense violet]

for example https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=s5RLM7OYq1cO01nI94Z8

I turned off 'plastic' and left only the choice for residual plastic

[grizzled lotus]

I can choose a product, but how do I choose which recipe is used?

[dense violet]

recipe section on the left

[sullen gull]

Honestly, for what you're wanting to do, Satisfactory Modeler would be eaiser to understand and you can have every bit of info right in front of you and not on tabs.

[grizzled lotus]

I think I got it. just needed to make sure that there's more plastic in plastic than residual

[dense violet]

Well I linked you a link with just residual 🙂

you can compare it to the basic plastic tab I linked

[atomic shadow]

is there a website that shows me how to build things

[dense violet]

just doing the maths? a number of them

this is my prefered. Takes a bit of practice but is very powerful https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[sullen gull]

If you're referring to what/ how many machines, you can use Satisfatory Tools or Satisfactory modeler (PC app, free on steam)

[atomic shadow]

cool thank you mate

[lapis dome]

do lizard doggos just spawn even if you enclosed you own?

[sullen gull]

Elaberate?

[lapis dome]

well i secured my lizard doggo, there sohuld be nothing to harm him ,and yet i just found another one miles away

a wild one

[sullen gull]

Oh, There are a lot on the map

[rich current]

When Fiscmas ends, will the snowballs also disappear?

[sullen gull]

Though, I am not sure if you tame one and put it in a pen, if "that one" respawns in the area you grabbed it from.

[sterile blade]

Imagine a world with just one single lizard doggo

[sullen gull]

As far as I understand, you don't loose anything, just the ability to produce more.

[rich current]

Gotcha! Thanks for the prompt reply!

[zealous urchin]

i refuse

[sterile blade]

If it was Easter-event-sized and rideable, I could possibly approve it of it

[leaden turret]

I refer you all to Birk's doggo kaiju

[zealous urchin]

imagine a lizard dogo in a size of a world

[sullen gull]

I can imagine a Stinger that size 🤣 #screenshots message

[real shale]

Small stingers but they behave like the facehuggers from alien

[grizzled lotus]

is the number of somersloops slottable specified by the recipe?

[tall lantern]

by the machine

[grizzled lotus]

so constructors can only accept one somersloop?

[tall lantern]

right

[hard ivy]

Yes, but that's a good thing. You get double output with one sloop

[tall lantern]

though I'd say it's "need" rather than "accept" - the bigger machines need their full complement to get the full doubling

you don't get 16x or whatever for putting 4 in a Manufacturer

[grizzled lotus]

man, this train and factory planning is really stressing my brain

building another computer factory because I funneled the first into Adaptive Control Unit

after that I'm going to have to build all the stuff I unlocked just now, included Directory Assembly Unit

I'm starting to think I need a main hub for all my storage. I'm losing track of all the outlets and where they're produced

[tall lantern]

could always build independent factories, don't need to try and track and maintain connections and counts between factories if they don't siphon from each other

[fiery garden]

dont forget about signs

[rich current]

Signs are also fantastic reminders

[tall lantern]

that too yeah

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[fiery garden]

you can also leave notes in the todo list

[rich current]

When planning out my factory hub, I always give a bit of wiggle room. Typically I use 6x6 cells for the beginning stuff, intermediate on up goes wayyy bigger.

[grizzled lotus]

actually that's what I'm doing

unless I'm misunderstanding independancy

[fiery garden]

need some heavy modular frames? build a factory near some miners to gather iron, copper, limestone, coal and do all of it on site without bringing stuff in from another factory

[proud citrus]

My fuse keeps blowing and I don’t know where to check why it’s doing it. I’m new so I’m still trying to figure everything out. Any help?

[rich current]

There's also alt recipies to completely nix Screws.

[strong fiber]

I gotta make. 7.5 pressure conversion cubes a minute bruh

[rich current]

Go to power pole, and open the UI. Likely you're drawing too much with too many machines and not enough power producers.

[white dawn]

The root cause is always that your production machines are requesting more power than your power-generation-machines are supplying

[tall lantern]

(and possibly hoverpack)

[white dawn]

In the early game, that could mean that you ran out of bio material for one (or more) of your Bio Burners, so that you suddenly aren't producing enough

But in general it could just mean overbuilding relative to your power.

(yeah, saying "production buildings" is a bit reductive; stuff like hoverpack could do it too. Though given the green tag I'd been assuming they're probably still on biofuels. :)

[keen monolith]

Convince me to play statisfactory again

[fiery garden]

its because you have too much power consumption. disconnect a part of the power network and see if the power will stay on. if so, go build some more power production before you reconnect the part you disconnected earlier

also, don't forget you can use power shards in biomass burners

[white dawn]

Eh, someone still figuring out the ropes of basic power stuff doesn't need to complicate things with power shards

[proud citrus]

So connect some building to a different bio burner?

[fiery garden]

no just disconnect them completely from the power

[white dawn]

Your power poles will tell you the total capacity of your power generation, and all the current demand; check those out.

The individual machines will tell you exactly how much power they require (or produce)

[fiery garden]

overclocking production machines has an exponentially higher power cost than simply building more machines, likewise underclocking can save power so it may be useful to temporarily underclock when a machine is making more stuff than you are currently able to use

overclocking and underclocking bio burners, coal burners etc has a linear effect so the only upside/downside is the cost of building more or less of them. the amount of fuel used per MW of energy generated is the same at any amount of overclock/underclock

[rose steppe]

overclocking is good for mid-late game

[fiery garden]

i always overclock bio burners asap

[tall lantern]

I'd just build more

[fiery garden]

i build 9, automate solid biofuel production and overclock all the burners as soon as possible. thats enough to get me to coal power

[lapis dome]

im doing exacly this rn, i have 6, overclocked them enough to keep my factory up whilst i go and set up stuff halway throught the map

its not halfway throught but its 1000m which sucks

[whole drum]

OC'ing gens is usually not worth it. All the materials to make them are basically endless, but until very late game you have a fixed number of power shards to work with (even if it it's a generous amount). They do nothing for your actual power production vs resources used, so it's basically just sinking shards for a very poor reason.

[compact aspen]

I finally touched trains after almost 200hrs into my save (still on phase 4). They're fun to use. I made a raised train track playform blueprint with room on the sides for hypertubes. So far I've just made a simple push/pull train that brings copper sheets to 2 different factories. It's timetable goes like this: Copper Sheets -> Factory A -> Copper Sheets -> Factory B -> Copper Sheets (repeat).

[fiery garden]

i build 9 because splitting 3 ways is neat and tidy. i could do 6 but the materials are cheap and i like to expore so i have a lot of slugs and sloops

[tall lantern]

it can be nice if you're building a much bigger power setup, but for the sake of a dozen biomass burners? ehh

[lapis dome]

im making some steel and bum rushing power mk 2 so i can make coal power my main one and just move it to the main base

[whole drum]

Also, at the bioburner stage, I wouldnt' OC anything because the power cost goes up so sharply compared to the gains, and burners actually take a long time to get through solid fuel, so you don't need to clock the production of that either.

[lapis dome]

im just splitting 2 solid biuomass constructors to them in 2 plits one for each 3 pair, i just make biomass and them split half to it

[fiery garden]

OC the burners though!

they only use as much fuel as you need, so you have more headroom

[lapis dome]

less annoying than redoing your biomass set up, its temporary anyway

[whole drum]

You don't have to redo anything. Just build it right in the first place, and it's simple to do.

[fiery garden]

you can always dismantle the burners when you dont need them any more

batteries make them practically obsolet for the factory and they become an exporation tool

75MW per burner anywhere on the map while exploring is pretty nice tbh

[lapis dome]

i started the game this fucking week brother i cant make everything right, i know a few thigns but thats it, nobody is gonna do everything right much less in their first playthrought asshole, liked not even after a first few.

[soft marsh]

Finished my standalone aluminium factory finally

[fiery garden]

perfect response

i been playing thousands of hours and i still can't make everything right first time lmao

[soft marsh]

Shiiiit I've been playing for a few years and have almost 1000 hours and I'm still fucking things up lmao

[spare cradle]

I got Phase 2 automated with tractor stuff

[fiery garden]

btw ethan when you got your factory making the things you need like iron plates and rods or whatever, don't dismantle them to rebuild the factory for some other stuff because you will still need the basic stuff for the rest of the game. just go find more locations to mine and make the other things you need. the whole map is yours to exploit

[rich current]

Bruh, I almost always pop the breaker when going from Biomass to Coal.

[exotic frigate]

My time with factorio helped me greatly, and my method of tackling satisfactory helps me compartmentalize my tasks, so ive been able to progress pretty smoothly. However I imagine ill bump my head against the ceiling of phase 4. Ill take it slow like I always do, one step at a time

[soft marsh]

I pop the breaker all the time because of wire and track spaghetti lol

[lapis dome]

im thinking of doing that, for now im in the lake and im thinking of mkaing a small steel factory here, and then later making a tractor to make a proper steel factory near the main base

[spare cradle]

I have 4 tractors running the materials to make Phase 2 parts and is transporting the phase 2 parts to the connected truck station

[lapis dome]

im familiar enough with factory games to know that be a bad idea, i have a "builder's factory" with basic plates, rods, screw, wire and cable separate from the other advanced components

[golden nexus]

Theres various approaches to this from starter factories, at some point most people tend to lift the factory off the gorund and make them a bit better. One such option at that point in the same is also to move them to impure nodes when you get the mk2 miner for all the basics like plate, rod, screw, rebar, wire, cable, copper sheets etc.. etc.. this also free's up the nodes again when you need to scale things up

[grizzled lotus]

is there a guide that I can read on the logistics of trains? I mean different methods such as having one train pick up different items for a complex part, or having trains only pick up one part and distributing it, etc

what I'm doing is similar to independant factories, one train for each "result" or goal item

[exotic frigate]

Im thinking of maybe centralizing my bauxite collection. Bring it all to one central big train station.

[golden nexus]

Not really, Other than the fact they conceptually work as a belt extender.

[spare cradle]

I need to now make a better and scaled up kontcrete production bc there are 3 norm limestone nodes within close prox

[sullen gull]

Wet Concrete

[spare cradle]

No water near sadly

Well except for some ponds

[fiery garden]

you can use the limestone to augment other production with alt recipes

[exotic frigate]

Wet!

[spare cradle]

I have the wet concrete ready

[grizzled lotus]

any major differences in efficiency or convenience? for example, I have one train pick up all the different parts for Adaptive Control Units and put them somewhere to be manufactured, but I think other people might have 3-4 different trains, each picking up one item for ACUs

[fiery garden]

or you can dump it all on a train and take it to the water

[spare cradle]

But idk how to make it bc I have nothing that is solid + liquid

[lapis dome]

i need to get ladders man

[sullen gull]

In that case, you should also totally make a smol setup for some Liquid Bio Fuel 😏

[lapis dome]

my vertical ascend strategy is llookout tower > foundation > lookout tower

at least its cheap

[fiery garden]

ladder!

[rich current]

Can purchase from the AWESOME Shop

[spare cradle]

I simply did coal bc a vein was near the pit.

[fiery garden]

build ladder, climb ladder, stack one on top, climb up while dismantling the lower one, keep going up!

[sullen gull]

And then, for "experience" and a "reward", build a ladder up until you start getting hurt 😏

[fiery garden]

dont forget your parachute!

[golden nexus]

Like most logistics, they work best when you have less things to move. Generally you can figure out where the train limit is, it moves 32 stacks per truck. So if you have an item that is running at 600/min and it has a stack of 100. You get 3,200 of items.... So at 600/min that mean it has a max round trip time of 5.3 minutes (take off 32 seconds at end load/unload cycle as well) So 2mins travel time + 2 minutes travel time back. So if you split it across 2 carriages you get 300/min rate and a 10 minute round trip time

[exotic frigate]

Ill finish my updated power setup and then start on putting bauxite on trains :3

[lapis dome]

thank god i got the game whilst its still ficmans idk how to get parachute otherwise

[golden nexus]

mycelia tree in the mam

[spare cradle]

Watching tractors zoom by on a bridge is just... Fun.

The final of the Phase 2 project else than better Automated wiring production.

[rich current]

Automated Wiring is the least tedious to automate of the 2 new parts

[fiery garden]

factory cart can be automated too 🤭

[rich current]

1 stack per cart lol

[fiery garden]

good enough for delivering fuel in most cases

[lapis dome]

the fungus research, i didnt unlock it yet, dont know how, dont spoil tohught

[spare cradle]

... They can be?

[golden nexus]

Often you find mycelia in some types of tree. But often the blue plants in caves

[rich current]

The Mushrooms becon!

[tame frost]

I spent 5 hours in satisfactory when I said I would just make my 8 coal generators and get them running so it was only meant to take 40 minutes but now I have done a lot and I can’t sleep what do I do

[strong fiber]

How many coal gens u got

[tame frost]

8

[tame frost]

Why

[rich current]

Ok, How many water extractors?

[tame frost]

3

[fiery garden]

there is only 1 thing you can do now: accept it

[tame frost]

Accept what

[fiery garden]

time has no meaning when playing this game

[golden nexus]

ADA: The Ficsit contract doesn't permit sleeping on the job

[rich current]

Got work/school IRL tomorrow?

[tame frost]

Really

[tame frost]

Nope still on beak until Wednesday

[unique pewter]

Meowdy

[fiery garden]

sleep is one of the most important things you can do for your own self preservation and yet 40 minutes became 5 hours

[tame frost]

But I’m off

[unique pewter]

Sleep is for the weak or sum like that

[strong fiber]

Wednesday is the worst day to come back im sending prayers your way

[oak nymph]

How high can the jumping spider jump

[rich current]

Then give yourself some time to wind down, and get some proper rest. Pioneers cannot function properly with misfiring brains.

[fiery garden]

diabolical

[strong fiber]

One time two hours became 12

[tame frost]

I can’t sleep though all I can think of is what to build next

[strong fiber]

Stupid rocket fuel plant

[oak nymph]

???

[strong fiber]

Higher than u with blade runners

[fiery garden]

(insert meme) too damn high!

[oak nymph]

They scare me so bad

[rich current]

Setting achievable goals, and meeting them is going to be key here bro. It's also okay to put the game down. It will still be there to continue.

[fiery garden]

the fart spiders are the worst thing ever 😩

[strong fiber]

nuke nobelisk go boom

[strong fiber]

Why are you a nuclear pasta

[fiery garden]

why not

[oak nymph]

Me don't have nuke

Me early game

[strong fiber]

Im trying to automate 7.5 of you a minute right now

[fiery garden]

yay me

[strong fiber]

I already have all 1250 copper powder a minute

Just got build the stupid pressure conversion cubes which are difficult because fused modular frames

Because i have no nitrogen gas around

[fiery garden]

heat fused frame?

[strong fiber]

And i have to train in tons of aluminum casings from the swamp

[sullen gull]

Drone it in

[tame frost]

I know but my brain won’t let me sleep it’s screaming for more when I close my eyes all I see is satisfactory all I can hear is satisfactory like it’s 01:50 and I want to sleep but then my brain is like NO you need more satisfactory

[rich current]

I am glad Gasses aren't bound like liquids.

[oak nymph]

Should I rush the Spixder with xenobasher?

[strong fiber]

Wait i could just drone in the aluminum casings too

Instead of making a whole train bruh

[sullen gull]

Depending on qty/min, sure

[fiery garden]

only if you got blade runners and mad skills. otherwise rebar gun is safer

[oak nymph]

I got blade Runner but no skill I'm just gonna save

[rich current]

That's autism bro. Got it too. Think "I can come back to this later. I can take my time and make this awesome."

[strong fiber]

Is 615/min feasible to drone in

[fiery garden]

maybe you will dream of a better way to build the thing you were going to build 3 factories ago

[strong fiber]

From the swamp to dune desert

[golden nexus]

Its not, its just somebody who is over excited

[fiery garden]

yes

[tame frost]

I don’t have autism I have been tested 2 times and I have all ready tried that

[sullen gull]

With that distance, I don't see why not?

[strong fiber]

Wont i need 3 drone ports because it stacks in 200

[oak nymph]

Idk how but I killed it

[oak nymph]

Hope it won't respawn

[wild kindle]

do i need any motors for anything besides things like manufacturers past tier 8 or can i just make all my motors im getting from my farm into turbo motors

[fiery garden]

drone carries more than 1 stack at a time

[strong fiber]

U need motors for cooling systems

[strong fiber]

Doesn’t that depend on distance

[fiery garden]

turbomotors!

[rich current]

Alright then, do your usual routine for winding down, if you have one of course.

[sullen gull]

What's your max belt atm?

[strong fiber]

Mk5 so 780

[fiery garden]

the number you can put in a drone does not depend on distance. the number of items you can shove into a drone port by the time the drone comes back does depend on distance

[wild kindle]

no you need heatsinks and rubber + nitrogen gas and water

[sullen gull]

Should be good

[merry granite]

Looking at your phone and talking on discord is certainly working against you

[tame frost]

I don’t it’s usually 22:00 turn on my red leds and then normally around 00:00 I feel tied but this time around it said nope more satisfactory

[oak nymph]

Can the big spider respawn?

[strong fiber]

I forgot i used cooling device alternative to remove rubber and water with motors because i have alot of iron where i made cooling systems

[whole drum]

It's easy to understand, and I'd be happy to share, but you can't be crashing out like this just because you don't know yet. It's not an ego attack unless you make it one.

[strong fiber]

No

[oak nymph]

Nice I cleared my first SAM node I can finally get dimensional storage

[tame frost]

Meh I have been trying to sleep for the past 30 minutes

[fiery garden]

its a valid crashout tbh. i totally concur with his sentiment.

[strong fiber]

My dd is max

[golden nexus]

Go read a book on tax law.......

[oak nymph]

Your what?

[whole drum]

You can be wrong too. That's fine.

[tame frost]

Don’t have one

[fiery garden]

yes, i have the right to be wrong 🙂

[strong fiber]

Dimensional Depot

[oak nymph]

Oh ok

[strong fiber]

Took lots of exploration

[merry granite]

Youve been active for the past 15 minutes. Think of how you would make the best sleep factory.

[strong fiber]

But was NOT worth ut

[fiery garden]

how many sheep per minute?

[tame frost]

Where do you find the purple orbs

[strong fiber]

What

[strong fiber]

Around the map

[fiery garden]

sleep factory

[strong fiber]

Thats called my bed

[tame frost]

lol

[strong fiber]

My bed is overclocked and slooped

[fiery garden]

i'm not sleeping in your bed. don't ask again.

[lapis dome]

QUICK QUESTION CAN YOUR STUFF DESPAWN?

[merry granite]

Think about maximizing your REM sleep per minute

[lapis dome]

and if you die again will the other death crate disapper or no?

[tame frost]

I don’t think so

[strong fiber]

Its overclocked and slooped

[fiery garden]

i don't think so but i wouldnt risk it tbh

[merry granite]

So you can craft a dimensional sleepot

[tame frost]

No

[whole drum]

10-15m exercise. Hot shower. Cold sleeping space. No screens for 30m before bed. You'll find sleep will consistently be easier/better (but you'll still have those nights where it's difficult).

[fiery garden]

so there will be 2 of me when i wake up? 😱

[merry granite]

Go to sleep at the same time every night

[strong fiber]

You need somersloops to double your sleep output

[fiery garden]

can't afford it. not enough biomass in the kitchen

maybe i need a bigger fridge

[tame frost]

What are somersloops

[strong fiber]

60 sleep/min = 30 rested hours/minute

[fiery garden]

don't worry, youll find out after some exploration

[merry granite]

somersleeps*

[lunar python]

the s symbol you would draw in highschool

[whole drum]

Summersleeps are the best

[fiery garden]

i like it when it rains at night

[merry granite]

Greendog needs 52 red leds per minute to produce sleep

[tame frost]

I might have to get back on and find some they sound fun for factory’s

[strong fiber]

bro i need a drone port for fuel too

[craggy vector]

What do somersloops do

[tame frost]

I have more then 52 and it’s not working

[strong fiber]

Increase output of machines with no added resource cost but with added power cost

[tame frost]

Oh my

[merry granite]

Thats because you have a nuclear reactor in your face

[craggy vector]

Sounds good, do you know the extra cost? Is it a percent?

[tame frost]

I need that

[fiery garden]

i dunno but it's a lot

[dense sandal]

I eat dirt

[craggy vector]

One trillion mw

[tame frost]

Do I need to do any mam research for it

[strong fiber]

There is only limited somer sloops in the world so they are scarce

[strong fiber]

Yes

[merry granite]

You need to research the sleep tree

[strong fiber]

Alright bro

[tame frost]

Ok what bits in the mam

[tame frost]

Not working

[strong fiber]

Its in alien technology

[tame frost]

Ok

[fiery garden]

i think you need to find some sam ore first

[strong fiber]

You need to find sam and turn it into reanimated sam

[tame frost]

Is it over clocking

[strong fiber]

No but you do need that

[tame frost]

I have that

[tame frost]

Ok

[whole drum]

Clocking is in the Slug branch of the MAM

[dense sandal]

dirt is my favorite food

[tame frost]

Oh

[dense sandal]

the thing in the alien technology branch uses somersloops to make machines make more output but take the same amount of input. it just uses more power

so like a smelter with somersloops would take one iron ore to make 2 iron ingots, but use 4x the power

[tame frost]

Had to fight a massive spider for the sam ore and just around with poison gas but worth it

[whole drum]

Yeah, so put a miner on the SAM and make sure to connect power to it

[tame frost]

Yeah I have

I am getting 60 sam a minute

[whole drum]

You can overclock the miner if your belts can support more throughput

[tame frost]

Btw I have arachnophobia so it was horrible

[strong fiber]

Put that sam into a constructor and make reanimated sam after you have it unlocked and store it

[whole drum]

The best cure for arachnophobia is pyromania

[rich current]

There's a setting for that to turn them into cats

[tame frost]

I am

[tame frost]

But I don’t want to kill cats

[rich current]

Now it's a question... Which is greater, the fear of spiders, or love of cats?

[tame frost]

Love of cats

[strong fiber]

Love of cats

[tame frost]

I have 4 cats

1 of the cats I have has been with me since I was born

Yay I’m getting 120 quarts a minute

[fiery garden]

120 quarts of milk per minute for the cats?

[tame frost]

Haha

[jagged nymph]

@pastel ember you can get them in i think tier 1 or 2? i dont remember but you can just use a normal storage container rather than a personal storage box if you need extra storage

[strong fiber]

Also here https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Somersloop

[hasty stump]

it should be possible to build personal litter boxes for the cats

[tame frost]

I’m getting blade runners are they good?

[strong fiber]

What cats

[strong fiber]

Yes

[tame frost]

Ok

[pastel ember]

And how to get normal storage containers, in the hub?

[fiery garden]

once you put the blade runners on you will never take them off

[jagged nymph]

did you skip onboarding? or are you still building the hub

[strong fiber]

Literally you will wear them until the end lf the game

[pastel ember]

I finished tier 0

[jagged nymph]

yea'

[golden nexus]

Go finish Tier 1

[jagged nymph]

so then you can place one, its in organization on your build tool

[pastel ember]

Yh but I have to build containers just to use em as chests xd

[pastel ember]

Alr thx

[golden nexus]

You mean a personal one, or the large one? also it won't do much for you tbh 😉

[fiery garden]

i think the personal storage chest is in the exploration milestone

[tame frost]

That good?

[jagged nymph]

theyre life changing, and theres nothing else that goes in your feet slot

[golden nexus]

Its not unlocked until Tier 1 - Field Research btw

[fiery garden]

yes but also there is nothing else to go in that equipment slot lol

[atomic shadow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1456471144227147960

[pastel ember]

Alr then I'll just wait and upgrade the hub

[jagged nymph]

im talking about the storage container

[golden nexus]

Yes....

Oh the one that unlocked on upgrade 5?

[tame frost]

I made the blade runners

[fiery garden]

yay

make an extra one and put it in the awesome sink

[rich current]

Blade Runners literally double your speed and jump height in a single piece of equipment.

[tame frost]

Why

[tame frost]

Oh wow

[fiery garden]

its a lot of points

[unique pewter]

Yum (slide jump go brrr)

I have them, they make it much better

[rich current]

Make sure you've got a parachute for those really spicy jumps though!

[atomic shadow]

anyone able to help me out here https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1456471144227147960

[unique pewter]

I do from Christmas thingy (I use it to scale sloped mountains lel)

[rich current]

Same!

Also, Fungus MAM Tree for the regular unlock if ya don't know!

[tame frost]

I’m making an object scanner

[unique pewter]

Omg uhh so when I run outta nodes, the closest coal and such is gonna be VERY far away

Is there a better way than running a 1000 mile belt

I do not wanna make another 3000m belt 😭

[fiery garden]

yeah instead of bringing the stuff over here to use it, leave it there and use it

[rich current]

Trucks/Tractors, or if ya are more advanced, Trains.

[unique pewter]

I don’t have good navigation stuff

[unique pewter]

Sure that’s nice

[rich current]

M is your friend.

[unique pewter]

I like having stuff come to my main area where my mega storage is

[rich current]

After an area's explored, the "Fog of War" is gone.

[hazy void]

every time i get a coupon in the sink the amount for the next increases, will this stop eventually or will it just keep increasing permanently

[rich current]

Short answer, Yes, exponentially.

[unique pewter]

Oh I thought I was tweaking

[hazy void]

lovely

[rich current]

If you keep feeding the machine, the tickets will just keep popping out eventually.

[abstract heron]

@frank blaze

Dis is my hrs in game 18,044 hrs on record

[rich current]

Alien DNA packs are HUGE points in the early game, and they get tracked separate.

[hazy void]

yeah ik

[abstract heron]

btw this is TOTAL

[unique pewter]

0-0

Holy farts

[abstract heron]

what?

[unique pewter]

Hire this man to build a RAM factory 🙏

[rich current]

2697.7 hours

Accumulated to date

[abstract heron]

my main 1.0 or 1.1 world is over 4khr total

i have one thats 6800hr in it

[tame frost]

I have 2 somrsloop

And now I have 0

[unique pewter]

I have too many rotors augh

[rich current]

They will get consumed like everything else.

[tame frost]

I have a dimensional depot

With 0 upgrades

[hasty stump]

cool story

[mystic ibex]

if my Dimension Depot upload rate is 60 per minute, do I want to be making about 60 per minute of basic parts like iron plates and wire to keep the Depot full?

[indigo pond]

is there a way to automate power shards?

[oak nymph]

Have you been playing for 10h straight?

[abstract heron]

i sometimes play for 15hr to 19hr on good days

[rich current]

There are times when it's best to just let the factory process to clear a goal, or build the res to make a larger factory

[oak nymph]

Should I make this as my first steel operation and is it possible with only mk3 belt
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Daniel_calculator_Steel_production.png?136d0d=&format=original

[reef basin]

I'd make my guess and say that this is very outdated

[oak nymph]

Why?

[reef basin]

because the tool that was making these graphs was taken down like 3 years back

so it most definitely doesn't have 1.0 recipes

[oak nymph]

But it still works?

[reef basin]

hm, interesting. Though the "about" section says it uses Update 4 data 🙂

which is almost 5 years old

[hazy void]

is there a way to have someone be a color of my choice when i place it so i dont have to recolor it after?

[hasty stump]

if it's something you aren't using constantly, you can probably get away a slower production rate feeding into an industrial container or two, attached to one or more depots

as long as the connection from the storage to the depots is at least as fast as the combined depot upload speed, you should be good

[hasty stump]

should be possible, but the 300/min limestone requirement means you'll need to use at least two nodes, whereas if it was 270 you could use one

[unique pewter]

Is the basher customisable? I see the little wrench trinket thing and was wondering

[golden nexus]

No, It will suck. Non of the numbers fit the nodes/miners

[hasty stump]

808.75/270 = 2.99537, seems ok?

[golden nexus]

Yeah. So which comination of nodes do you need to get that?

[lyric basalt]

question to the all knowing :3 ... am i looking at this right ? we can now burn Uranium Rods - Plutonium rods > then recycle those in the the ficsonium rods ? then is there no by product from that ? just 3 nuclear fuels

[hasty stump]

three overclocked nodes with mk1 miners should do it, or three normal with mk2

[golden nexus]

Yeah, On 270/min belts.. its like 2.99537037037 nodes 🙁

[hasty stump]

i guess my point is that 2.99537 is better than 3.01

[golden nexus]

The whole setup is fractional thoughout... that means there something badly wrong with the maths

[hasty stump]

yea, personally i'd start with nice integer numbers for the miners (compatible with my belt restrictions) and let the output numbers be fractional, rather than vice versa

[oak nymph]

Idk how much of each part ( steel beam steel pipe encased industrial beam automated wiring and stator I would need in my playthrough) so I got random numbers what would I need during the playthrough?

[golden nexus]

Suggestion. You go max out 2 steel builds using solid steel, one for pipe and one for beam. You going to use them

[unique pewter]

Best early game item to sink?

Well idk if early game, it is early-mid

[golden nexus]

space elevator parts

[rich current]

AI limiters

[golden nexus]

motor / pet coke

[oak nymph]

What is max out how much per min

[hasty stump]

one thing to consider is whether you really need automated wiring permanently automated, afaik it's only needed for the space elevator

[whole drum]

People generally fall into one of two camps with regard to Project Parts:

• Just make temporary machines that you hand feed via storage boxes
• Automate everything, sink the excess

[lapis dome]

FINALLY! my first steel production line now ill just wait and hand craft what i can till i can bum rush power tier 2

[golden nexus]

So get a coal+iron ore @ 240/min for solid steel ingots. This is exactly 6 found tires they take 40/min each, they make 60/min ingots each. Which results in 6 constructors for beam taking 60/min each. This give you plenty of beam for encased beam and for vert framework. The reason to do 240/min is later you will double this factory capacity to 480/min

[upper gale]

I do quickwire or uranium if I find it

[unique pewter]

Ight, I have a BUNCH of quick

[golden nexus]

This is what my steel pipe factory looks like btw #screenshots message

[oak nymph]

Ok thanks

[golden nexus]

Cause when you max it out for pipe, you end up with a 1:2 ratio

[hasty stump]

tbh sink everything: splitter with one output to storage/depot and the other to a sink, replace with smart splitter as soon as available so only the overflow is sinked

[oak nymph]

I think I'm going to do mine flat and in the void

[golden nexus]

Yeah, I don't recommend flat, I recommend stacked like that, cause the pipe gos to stator / rotor which then goes to motor

[oak nymph]

I don't have staircase on anything to go up effectively

[golden nexus]

The subtle part of that design takes ingots in the middle and the foundries produce more output than input using the solid steel recipie so you need 2 output belts.

[glass pagoda]

Hello everyone

[golden nexus]

so the output belts feed upwards to either side to the next floors. For beam this means you have 2 rows of construtors facing towads each oehter which recombines the 2 seperare belts back into one belt of beam

[hasty stump]

can unlock with coupons, but even if you don't have those you can always just use the ramp foundations

[glass pagoda]

It's time to pay up

[oak nymph]

I could forget about making steel pipe cause I can get the iron pipe alternate recipe should I?

[golden nexus]

its not as fast

[grim carbon]

it seems the satisfactory calculator page is down

[oak nymph]

Ah ok

[glass pagoda]

Depends

[glass pagoda]

You have been calculating too much

[golden nexus]

Also these things "change" over time, like if you get encased pipe you switch half your beam to pipe etc...

[grim carbon]

LOL

[glass pagoda]

New niche meme biocoal

[hasty stump]

if you're in an area that is relatively iron rich and coal poor then hell yea

[oak nymph]

I got 2 pure coal node and that's it and a lot of iron

[grim carbon]

@glass pagoda I have a question just for you

[glass pagoda]

Hmm

[golden nexus]

Have a look at this #screenshots message

[grim carbon]

what exactly is Not Not Cyan? Cyan?

[hasty stump]

if you aren't at fuel generators yet then you may want to dedicate as much coal to power as possible, that would argue in favor of iron pipes etc

[oak nymph]

But my power set up is far away from my base closer to the desert

I think I'll do it the traditional way

[hasty stump]

ah well if you don't have a more urgent purpose for coal then i think the standard pipe recipe is fine

[versed cosmos]

man phase 4 feels so overwhelming

[golden nexus]

The reason i recommend floored based design is you push the beam up one level to where its used using a smart splitter. This means the building more "managable" long term #screenshots message

[glass pagoda]

My original name was cyan back when I used to play rec room in 2020 but after I had everyone in the server looking for me I changed my name to not cyan because they kept trying to ban me but my old name was gone then recently someone kept harassing me so I changed my name to not not cyan

[grim carbon]

That's cool

[glass pagoda]

Yaba daba

[grim carbon]

were you a corrupting influence? as to why they were trying to ban you?

[oak nymph]

I can't have them yet the AI limiter limite me

[glass pagoda]

I shot the highest member cuz it was funny

Got banned a year later

[grim carbon]

you shot him?

[golden nexus]

You don't need them initially....

[glass pagoda]

In game

Obviously

[grim carbon]

i would hope so

[hasty stump]

banned a year later?

[glass pagoda]

Ikr

[hasty stump]

that's a delayed reaction fr

[grim carbon]

they took their sweet time

[glass pagoda]

I didint even know it was cuz of that till awhile after cuz it was so random at the time

[oak nymph]

You need 10 ai limiter per smart splitter

[glass pagoda]

Anyways got to head to bed bye

[grim carbon]

buh bye

[whole drum]

Literally automate 1/m and you're set until later phases

[golden nexus]

i was saying, the smart splitter optional, it can be added later

What you do with the smart splitter... you add overflow to the container/dd and then you can supply an automated wiring building. So when you need automated wiring you just throw the switch on / off on demand

A steel factory like that btw is capable of producing in the region of 40/rotor + 30/stator .. you need these for motors. As you move forward i the game you want to be able to shift the priority of whats made....

[oak nymph]

Oh sorry I might be dumb

How much is a mk1 miner on pure node?

[hasty stump]

120 without shards

[golden nexus]

You start of with needing a lot of beam for mk3 belts, then suddenly you have excess beam and need mk4 belts which is encased beam which you need a ton of, then you suddently need a lot of stator, then a ton of motors.

[grim carbon]

i wish there was a mini map that would show on screen at all times

[golden nexus]

240/min

[oak nymph]

Perfect

[sullen gull]

There's a mod for that 😛

[golden nexus]

Overclocked to 200% of course

[grim carbon]

i don't want to play this game with mods

[golden nexus]

i assume your in the grass fields?

[oak nymph]

Yeah

[sullen gull]

Assumed that was going to be the response. Still, just sayin.

[golden nexus]

in which case you be using the same 2 coal nodes i am using

[oak nymph]

Probably

[golden nexus]

like these? #screenshots message

[oak nymph]

Exact

[golden nexus]

You also want copper and a ton of concrete. I use the 3 normal's in the crater... i have a factory over there that makes a belt of it. Bear in mind 270/45 is 6 constructors. Which give a full mk3 belts of concrete to go to encase beam + the building mats

[oak nymph]

Ok

[exotic frigate]

If im already automating the parts I need for other things. Why not do a bit extra and automate the project parts too

[oak nymph]

Do you use both the coal node?

[golden nexus]

btw the 2 steel buildings are next to each other cause sometimes things move between them later. Likewise it also has 2x240/wire going into it for the stator and steel rotor recipies

[hazy void]

is there a way to have someone be a color of my choice when i place it so i dont have to recolor it after?

[golden nexus]

Yes, I take 240/min from each. Something to note. If you take 270/min from each and use a smart splitter you can extract enough to make nobelisk on the side

[eager tusk]

Whats the hotkey to switch tabs

[sullen gull]

Like hotbars?

[eager tusk]

Yeah

[rich current]

Hold Alt

[eager tusk]

Thanks

[rich current]

Then scrollwheel

[sullen gull]

Alt+Scrollwheel

[golden nexus]

@oak nymph One of the other key things is the pure coal nodes will do 480/min when overclocked with a mk2 miner. and when you get a mk2 miners you can double the entire steel factory productino rates. This is extremly useful when you need to come back and do heavy mod frame

[oak nymph]

Ok I'm a bit confused but I'll understand

[sullen gull]

And a mk3 does 1200/min

When overclocked to 250

[golden nexus]

Yup, At that point you upgrade the factories to 600/min and split a coal node and recover the other node and make a whole new factory for late game items

In my case the factory cannot grow long enough....

[sullen gull]

Or, with alts, you can also remove the need for steel ingots completely 😏

[rich current]

Got me thinking though.... Is it actually possible to need/use all the nodes on the map?

[sullen gull]

Need, no.

Possible... 🤷‍♂️ . Most will say the computer will have a stroke first 😛

[golden nexus]

No need to... you can actually finish game on about 20 nodes in total

It depends how you manage the factory.... if you can build the factory in a way you can turn bits on / off and repurpose / restrucutre you can fly though the game very effectivly

[sullen gull]

Probably less than that if patient 😛

[golden nexus]

I mean in a reasonably timescale

[sullen gull]

No achievement for that. So, imo, You have all the time in the world 😏

[golden nexus]

I did this solution which is actually all part to T9 #1455008912666263684 message

There a turbo fuel plant and alu ingot on west coast

Few other remote things like nitrogen packer, and crystal oss factory outsourced as well

That was done in about 70-80 hours

[oak nymph]

@golden nexus do you use 240 coal for pipe and 240 coal for beam?

[golden nexus]

Yup, 2 factories

[oak nymph]

Do they need to be close to each other?

[golden nexus]

No, But it can be convient to be close cause they can end up sharing pipe with each other cause of alt recipies that come later. Like if you get encased pipe you switch from beam -> pipe

but you don't have to...

The beam factory tends to want concrete. The pipe factory tends to want copper.

[indigo pond]

is there a way to automate power shards? and do mercer spheres spawn infinitely or is there a set amount on the map?

[golden nexus]

Tier 9

[primal obsidian]

set amount of mercers but im pretty sure theres enough to upload every item in the game with a depot

[glass pagoda]

Hello everyone

[indigo pond]

thats the reason i was asking lol, thanks

[primal obsidian]

oh and you can get all upgrades and still have enough i think

[sullen gull]

And multiples for concrete 🙂