satisfactory

[dim flint]

I have so many outposts.

Everything is an outpost.

Train stations, floors, rooms, everything.

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=outpost

[cyan leaf]

I have a semi full area of fuel generators running on turbo lol this is also including my normal factory as well connetected

[sullen gull]

The blueprint feature is really nice as well.

[dim flint]

I use that less TBH, but the fact you can just swap an outpost to a blueprint and visaversa is great.

I mostly use them for organization, not so much numbers.

I have my temporary nuclear as a blueprint though, since I've been slowly scaling it... but it's a mess and is going to be destroyed as soon as I complete this mess: #design-and-architecture message

But I need to do rocketfuel first unfortunately.

[sick falcon]

whys crater lake a good area for oil power? i saw someone say it was

[dim flint]

Lots of oil. Sulfer and Nitro right there too.

One of the best general spots in the game IMO.

(that's where I'm sitting rn actually)

I built an ionized fuel plant here, because I needed to burn shards.

It was also my first fuel plant.

[cyan leaf]

Oh god I just realised the guide im using has blenders 😭

[sick falcon]

where did you start to have your first plant so far south

[sick falcon]

they aren’t that bad

[cyan leaf]

I dont have it unlocked yet lol

[sick falcon]

ohhh

diluted fuel?

[cyan leaf]

I have the diluted fuel but I have to alter it to be suited for ref

[sick falcon]

how far off blenders are you

[cyan leaf]

Im on phase 4

But the beginning stages of it as in still researching barux(no aluminium yet(

[dim flint]

Grassy fields.

[dim flint]

I built a zipline highway over there which I took a fuck ton of times.

I made a small coal plant first obviously, but rushed oil pretty quick.

[last tartan]

I finished my FICSIT tree:)

[sick falcon]

where in the lake did you set up your plant?

[dim flint]

One sec I'll link a SS.

[last tartan]

HOLY cow the ficsmas stuff gives good points

[cyan leaf]

There is a spot not to far from spawn where it has like 2-3 normal/pure oil nodes and a lot of empty space like enough space to basically never needing nuclear power

[feral jay]

Sweet, after all my building today, consumption still equals max consumption, if sinks and trains are turned off

[fast summit]

#screenshots message im crapping myself rn

i never thought it would come

[leaden arch]

Train throughput is so tedious, are they even worth it?

[dim flint]

I mean, yes. But it is frustrating, I agree.

Right now I'd kill to be able to set load/unload full load on a per car basis.

[feral jay]

I'd love to have "Leave this station when ANY car is fully unloaded"

[dim flint]

Just let us configure cars. Problem solved.

You can even reuse the same UI basically.

[robust nova]

got a question about pumps if anyone would mind helpinghttps://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1453252682776186911

[dim crag]

Hey guys is steeled frame better than bolted frame ? For modular frames

[brittle dagger]

Hi guys, please tell me how long it will take a new player to complete the game solo, including AFK?

[pearl sparrow]

5,000 years

[feral jay]

A few hundred hours

howlongtobeat.com/game/65835

[cyan leaf]

Whays the best way to transport stuff like baruix easier? Is it worth using trains or use like drones

[cyan leaf]

Depends are u good with making complex stuff?

[feral jay]

Trains are good when you need to transport massive amounts of stuff, drones are good when you just need to transport a little bit; you don't need to run tracks

[cyan leaf]

Cause im stuck on how to deal with getting baruix and silica together cause of how fsr they sre

[feral jay]

Yup that's the game's basic challenge, moving stuff around the map

[brittle dagger]

kinda lame tbh

[cyan leaf]

Thej it will take over 100 hours 😭 cause after phase 2 u will be hauling ass keeping everything going

[cyan leaf]

Thays why im asking trains or drones😭 cause trucks are off the table completely

[feral jay]

I'd say for making aluminium, you're gonna need to move way more material than drones can realistically handle

But... I tend to make a lot of it

[cyan leaf]

For phase 4 and 5 is aluminium needed alot?

[feral jay]

You really start to need it when you use Mk.5 belts

Can't recall which tier that is

[cyan leaf]

Its phase 4 but in general is aluminium like a heavy requirement?

[feral jay]

yes

[cyan leaf]

Alr alr

[last tartan]

what're your guys' favorite way to lay out your smelters? I'm trying to think of a good space efficient design and thought I'd hear some ideas. If it helps I have a Mk2 blueprint designer.

[cyan leaf]

Could u just do like a manifold? Makes it easier to upgrade if u ever do

[trim sundial]

HOW do you guys deal with the large hog aliens? I have like 3 of them around my coal site i need gone and i just cant do enough damage to them before i get run over. All i have is a xeno basher

[bold wedge]

dodge

and keep hitting
you can respawn, they cant

[trim sundial]

I guess i need to get gud because it feels like they cant be dodged, they are two fast and seem to have a huge hit radius lol

I hope there is water near my coal site once i clear them out because the travel time between the coal site and my coal generators is turning out to be way to much.

[last tartan]

is there a wall mounted iteration of the mk3 power pole

I don't have it unlocked yet but I want it

[robust nova]

Filling the pipes now, but all upgraded to rocket fuel now, 96 fully OC generatorshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1453264373425373244/Screenshot_20251223-225314.png?ex=694cd16a&is=694b7fea&hm=6afbcc541b957af8b57e0284f76737964f8f82464081edf747f62a6a726437e9&

that didnt link right...

[zealous urchin]

yes, in the awesome shop

[ancient sphinx]

Why do my path signals only work on T junctions if they are placed further back but not where it snaps

Was pulling my hair out thinking i was doing it wrong but it just needed more of a gap

[robust nova]

Wooo 69.5GW of POWAHH!!

[mystic plank]

yooo i just started the game, how much splitting do i do on one ore miner?

[teal geyser]

What do you mean? How much is the miner producing?

[mystic plank]

like from one miner right, i connected it to 6 smelters idk if its faster than 3 or smth

if u know what i mean

[south idol]

..is there some way to set draw distance to unlimited, system resource cost be damned? I wanna take a screenshot of my reactors, but they dont all fit on screen, some always get rendered low poly

[compact flicker]

All of the numerical information can be found inside of the machine menu :3

[mystic plank]

oh didnt know that

[teal geyser]

Click on the miner, and check how much ore it is producing per minute

[compact flicker]

A standard smelter can handle .5 of a full mk1 belt though.

[mystic plank]

i started last week on a cracked satisfactory, now that its on sale i just bought it

so i wanna be organized as much as possible unlike my first start xd

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1453270292796543152 A simple design, I decided to use the integration of my floor to make it look cleaner. Not the best on space efficiency, considering it uses a 40x40 meter gridsquare for only 14 smelters, but it works for what I have.. for now.

[mystic plank]

are smelters upgradeable?

[compact flicker]

Power shards let you "overclock" machines up to 250% speed

[last tartan]

let us not forget beloved somersloops

[mystic plank]

oo

how should i do the miner? do i connect it instantly to a smelter or connect to a storage first?

[compact flicker]

Miner -> splitter -> smelters -> merger

[teal geyser]

Not really worth it to store ore or ingots. Only parts

[mystic plank]

o okok noted, ty guys 😄

[last tartan]

is there ways to undo entire blueprints?

I seriously hope so

[teal geyser]

Blueprint Dismantle mode

[last tartan]

how do I access such?

[compact flicker]

Bottom of your screen should show the button to switch dismantle mode with your build gun equipped

Build remote

The thing you use to build/dismantle things with

[teal geyser]

On PC, press R when on Dismantle tool

[compact flicker]

Specifically while in dismantle mode

[last tartan]

Im surpirsed there isnt a specification for that when holding the dismantling tool. thanks for the pointers!

uhh.. however so I didn't get my resources back.

nevermind

[mystic plank]

should i build one for copper impure? coz the others are 500m away from me ;-;

[teal geyser]

What happenned?

[last tartan]

For some reason upon dismantling the blueprint it sent it back to my designer? for some reason?

[teal geyser]

Impure nodes are better than no nodes

[teal geyser]

Was the blueprint on the designer?

[mystic plank]

ok thats true

[last tartan]

it was not, I placed the blueprint on factory grounds but did not orientate it properly

[teal geyser]

Thats weird

[compact flicker]

Impure = 50%
Normal = 100%
Pure = 200%

An impure should be fine for now for ya tho

[mystic plank]

aight ty

2 normal iron near it

[compact flicker]

By the arch?

[mystic plank]

no idea

[compact flicker]

Its quite large :p

[mystic plank]

okok sooo 1 miner 1 splitter 3 smelter right?

[compact flicker]

2 smelters for mk1 belt

A full mk1 belt

[mystic plank]

o so it depends on belts?

[drowsy kelp]

are there any shortcuts to a specific hand slot

scrolling through them on a server while trying to escape danger is a bit finicky

[teal geyser]

Yes...

Mk1 Belts = 60/min
Mk2 Belts = 120/min
Mk3 Belts = 270/min

Read the information it gives you in the build menu

[placid comet]

Ok hold on... I never looked into somersloops up until now. You can force higher productivity by cramming them into machines once researched?

[hybrid nymph]

Hello people 🤗

[teal geyser]

Yep. Doubles the output. It will increase power requirements just like shards though

[last tartan]

folks, I pulled up my blueprint and it sent it to the designer again.. with an unfinished new blueprint I was working on on it too!! what the heck is happening?

[placid comet]

Oh geez... Where 250 OC only increases by, what, 36%(?), these increase power cost TIMES 4. Ouch

[sour ledge]

to be fair.... doubling the output with no input beyond power increase is still incredibly powerful even at 4x the power cost lol. especially if you sloop your power production....

[placid comet]

I'm guessing that's what power augmentation is. Haven't unlocked that one yet

[sour ledge]

oh, no that's something different.

When i say sloop your power production, i mean just put the sloops into the machines producing your fuel and doubling their output. Double the fuel, double the power generation - it ends up coming waaaay ahead of the increased power cost

[last tartan]

why does blueprint dismantling just.. make cables disappear now?

[teal geyser]

Those blueprints are really kicking your butt, aren’t they?

[last tartan]

They sure don't like me tonight, I just don't want to set up 30 constructors individually in an ugly fashion 😭

i think it’s time for the factory to stop growing tonight

I’ve done a lot of work today

[kindred crater]

I did not anticipate making nuclear pasta to exceed my power production by 150%

[mystic plank]

should i straight craft my copper to wire then cable? or wire then storage then cable

[kindred crater]

I often find myself directly requiring both cable and wire. I split the copper bars, one makes copper wire, one make wire then cable

[hasty stump]

finally got around to making a snow cannon and pointed it at my tree, the result is quite underwhelming, just a small white patch on a couple of branches 😆

i guess you have to surround the tree with them

[placid comet]

Did I break something? I'm trying to do the curved foundation trick with the catwalks, but now the catwalks won't even even rotate

[mystic plank]

i see okok ty

[mystic plank]

just to be clear for mk2 i use 4 smelters? and mk3 would be 8 smelters?

[cyan leaf]

Fff I hate blenders so expensive

[cyan leaf]

Just do mk3 miner (whatever the purity of node) then divide it by how many a single smelter can do per minute and that should give a rough answer

[mystic plank]

well for mk1 miner for now coz im about to unlock the mk2 conveyor 🙂

[hybrid nymph]

hello my fellow Ficsit pioneers

I am just hunting somersloops

[cyan leaf]

Then divide how much a single mo1 miner can output by 30 i dont remember whats copper ratio

[hasty stump]

you should hunt spiders instead

[real shale]

Good morning everyone, Happy Christmas Eve pioneers! :)

[sinful imp]

For some reason I don't have encased industrial beams

[hybrid nymph]

now I just need the hazmat suit

just working on tier 7

[reef basin]

depends on recipes

[undone citrus]

Can I get advice on my pillar design lol

[placid comet]

#screenshots message
Is there a better way to do my windows?

Because of how the foundations are positioned, they intersect

[reef basin]

probably better to ask in #design-and-architecture, rather than spreading it over two channels

[placid comet]

I'll do that

[sterile blade]

People can't write replies to your messages in #screenshots in the same channel, but they can in #design-and-architecture

[undone citrus]

Yeah

Alright

[hollow current]

Who else gets possessed by the Texan oil tycoon and built a pipeline from the source to their base no matter the distance

[undone citrus]

My base the last two worlds has been set up on oil

So technically lol

[reef basin]

why would I do that if I can just process oil where it is?

[hollow current]

Mines is in tbe grass fields

[hollow current]

Not walking back and forth

[undone citrus]

You don't have too

Trucks and packaging are for that

And then later trains

[placid comet]

Who said anything about walking. Chugga chugga

[trim sundial]

The giant boars are really getting irriating, they are near impossible to dodge, they knock you in the air and by the time you land and can move they are already hitting you in the butt again lol. At this point im tempted to just temporary relocate my hub closer so i can respawn and get back to fighitng them faster lol

[hollow current]

I don't have the train yet

[undone citrus]

I actually went from my old base to make an oil base, and shipped all my stuff to the oil rather than my oil to my stuff lol

[reef basin]

why would I do that if I have dimensional depots?

[placid comet]

Do you have zip lines?

[hollow current]

Yes

[hollow current]

Im still looking for s.a.m

[placid comet]

Arguably just as good. Use the large power towers and build a path

[undone citrus]

Railgun

But you must make it look like a real rail gun

I started a world with 3 people where we worked together through phase 1 and 2 and now in phase 3 are going to our own starter biomes and basically starting from scratch again to build our own factories/business unaffected by the other two people

Minus casually nuking one another when we discovered nukes..

[reef basin]

map is assymetric so you're gonna have fun fighting over stuff

[undone citrus]

We won't be fighting, that was part of the idea actually

We're encouraging monopolizing products and product specialization to encourage trains and shipping routes

For example I'm specializing in steel production since I have an advantage over them in that department

Another friend is specializing in oil products

[placid comet]

Ah so a "This your job, this is your job, etc, so hop to it" sort of deal

[undone citrus]

Not entirely. They can do whatever, and it's still on us to ultimate produce what we need in the moment. More like the real world

[cyan leaf]

Is it worth using the silica alt?

[undone citrus]

Certain countries have more abundance of items, and make trade deals and contracts with other countries so everyone is supplied and happy

[cyan leaf]

😭 why tf we talking irl bs

[placid comet]

Which one?

[undone citrus]

Just using it to show what we're replicating in our world lol

Wanted to do the world with 4 people but couldn't find a final person

[real shale]

[hybrid nymph]

what tier are you on? I might want to join

[shy mulch]

That sort of thing will only really work if all people involved build at similar pace to each other

[undone citrus]

We split off as soon as we started tier 3, tiers 1 and 2 were preparation phase for the actual experiment so we worked together

[hybrid nymph]

so you're on tier 3?

[cyan leaf]

The one with limestone

[undone citrus]

That's why I personally intend to build everything I need and only take assistance from my friends

[undone citrus]

I mean phase 3. I just call it tier

So tier 4-5 I think? Idk what phase 3 is

[shy mulch]

My petty rage today is people on youtube pronouncing "mk 6" as "emkay six" instead of "mark six"

[undone citrus]

No 5-6

[hybrid nymph]

phase 3 is tiers 5 and 6

[undone citrus]

Oh

[hybrid nymph]

I just finished tier 6 yesterday and I finished phase 3

[undone citrus]

But the issue with getting people is platform, everyone interested is PC

[hybrid nymph]

oh you play on PS5?

[fiery pewter]

Who. Says. "Emkay". 6

[shy mulch]

a horrifyingly large proportion of youtubers

[undone citrus]

Xbox, but both PlayStation and Xbox can play together

[fiery pewter]

What

Well I do not watch those then

Kibitz doesn't do that

[undone citrus]

Thankfully

[placid comet]

Oh that... In a vast majority of situations, no not at all worth it. But if you have limited quartz to go around and limestone nodes, its AN option

[fiery pewter]

And he's about the only SF yt'er that I watch

[shy mulch]

I spend a lot of time scrolling youtube shorts, so I get a lot of random things from people I'm unfamiliar with, not just this game but other games too. And honestly the majority of them say it wrong, it boils my brain every time

[fiery pewter]

I get that

[hybrid nymph]

off Xbox, too abd PC can't play with console, but mods is the reason

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[fiery pewter]

I mean technically, the abbreviation is Mk.

So then it is also just lazyness or just being oblivious

[undone citrus]

I mean maybe they'll just disable mods in the future for worlds that have console cross play, but I doubt it

Cause it was in their "were not doing this" video

[undone citrus]

Mark is easier to say than MK 😭

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[undone citrus]

It's one less syllable

[hybrid nymph]

I don't see why they just couldn't have crossplay auto disable mods?

it would be totally doable

[undone citrus]

Doable yes, but not easy

They'd have to get a mod detection thing and a bunch of stuff I'm assuming

That isn't as easy as it would seem to us

[hybrid nymph]

or betteryet just have console supprt modding within the game

[fiery pewter]

Mod detection already exists

[fiery pewter]

Hah. Download SMM on a console

[hybrid nymph]

everyone knows the PC version is the best

[undone citrus]

Id use PC if I could afford one.

But with their original prices plus increases it's just not something I can do for another year or more

[hybrid nymph]

PCs are on sale at Costco right now for Christmas

[undone citrus]

Cause I'm not buying a PC that would barely function

[undone citrus]

I'm barely out of school. Even $100 is still a lot for me

[real shale]

The main issue with PCs right now is RAM prices and now lower consumer GPU production

[hybrid nymph]

you can get a Ryzen 7 9700X and RTX 5070 for $1500 USD

[undone citrus]

Not to mention you would need a Costco membership to begin with to access their deals

[undone citrus]

That's over 2k for me

[hybrid nymph]

or get a bestbuy credit card if you have good credit

oof

[undone citrus]

I don't have anything 😭

I've been in school for the last 18 years

[real shale]

Honestly, buying a PC right now isn't the play, the market is Wayyyyy too volatile at the moment

[hybrid nymph]

of you're still in highschool?

[fiery pewter]

Yup I feel this

[undone citrus]

I should be finished but covid messed it up

So I'm probably attending another 2 years to actually get my diploma

[hybrid nymph]

I am still in college, even though I graduated

I went back after I decided I wanted to do IT work

I have 4 degrees: AA in history and BS in Philosophy, economics, and political science

[fiery pewter]

I am working my way through school

[undone citrus]

My only income currently is a monthly $105 I get from the government from a program I'm in

And that's $105 cad. So like $80 USD

[hybrid nymph]

oof sorry to hear

[fiery pewter]

Most of which I do not need

[real shale]

I'm kinda glad I got my PC upgrade when I did, boy did I dodge a bullet with the AI market price hikes

[undone citrus]

Im trying my best to attend school but I moved to modular courses. So I dont go in much

Focused more on getting a job

[fiery pewter]

I'm glad I bought my pc at the start of 2025, when the prices were still semi-normal

[real shale]

That's when I did my upgrade

[sterile blade]

Some would call that a "console"

[real shale]

I got a 4070S and 5700X for a good price

[undone citrus]

Consoles have their purpose

[fiery pewter]

I got my entire pc for under 1600

[undone citrus]

Mainly that purpose being run better than a shit PC at the same price

[sterile blade]

I'm not trying to argue, just to make a pun :P

[undone citrus]

Yeah

[real shale]

My upgrade was like £1k

[fiery pewter]

Noice

[real shale]

I was upgrading that many parts I just went "you know what, just replace everything"

[fiery pewter]

Honestly, this whole AI thing has to stop

[undone citrus]

I like consoles and will always pick them over PC, just cause it's the gaming experience I've had all my life

Hate PS4 and older cause of their controllers, but I'm okay with ps5 cause they actually fixed the controller after who knows how many years

[real shale]

Fr, it's making PCs so much harder to get for normal people

[fiery pewter]

Not only that. It is also a big polluter, costs way too much power, is still too dumb, ruins school and I could go on

[real shale]

Yeah, but anyway, we are all here to build factories

[fiery pewter]

Do some pollution of our own

[undone citrus]

Coal power

I plan to have my own personal power grid making 4500 mw before my friends get on

And keeping it a secret

No way I'm risking them shutting it down lol

[zealous urchin]

😆

[fiery pewter]

My plan is to finish the starter base and prepare alot of coal plants before my friend(s) get on, so that they can experience the, idk, 4 2400 MW powerplants turning on

[undone citrus]

Lol

[fiery pewter]

Anyone here with ficsmas enabled?

[undone citrus]

Yeah but haven't done much

Haven't done anything on shared world

[fiery pewter]

Did you do the calandar

[undone citrus]

Only got iron ornaments on my main

[undone citrus]

Mostly

[real shale]

Yeah

[fiery pewter]

Did you also think that that weird thing on the cookie was the 18?

On the calandar?

[real shale]

No, I immediately found 18, it was 17 that gave me issues though.

Although I do like today's gift :), my favourite trinket to date

[fiery pewter]

Well I thought I had found 18, but it apparently wasn't. 14 was the hardest for me

I am also kinda sadge that there is no 26

[real shale]

That wouldn't make sense with a traditional advent calendar though

They usually go to 24 or 25

[fiery pewter]

Sadge

Next year's advent calandar should have a nobelisk detonator, if the are nobelisks in the calandar

I feel like I'm not spelling calandar right

[real shale]

You can get a nobelisk detonator with the event

Just in a very.....unconventional way

[fiery pewter]

How

Teeelllmeee

[real shale]

There is nobelisk gifts that drop

[fiery pewter]

Hm

[real shale]

They give 20 nobelisks and a nobelisk detonator, you should pick them up when you see them, very nice to get

[fiery pewter]

What do they look like

[real shale]

Just like a big nobelisk

You should see like a beam of light when they drop like regular Ficsmas gifts

[fiery pewter]

Huh

[fiery pewter]

A big regular nobelisk?

[real shale]

Yeah

[fiery pewter]

Then I only have to look for red things

Reason I want them is because there is a stupid rock blocking my caterium

[real shale]

It'll be called a "Totally Normal Ficsmas Gift" or something, when you pick it up you get 20 nobelisks and a detonator each time you pick it up

[fiery pewter]

And I want to automate alot, even though I don't even have the space elevator yet

And that alot includes quickwire and AI limiters

[fiery pewter]

Ah ok

[shy mulch]

Apologies if I make an incorrect assumption that you are American, right?
I want to ask a genuine question, from a European. Why are Americans seemingly so obsessed with qualifications like that, it doesn't seem to help much in the job market. I spent 3 years at university then left before completion and walked away with nothing on paper to show for my time, and it's really made no difference to my career

[cosmic adder]

Anyone knows if there is character refference (lined), that i could use for 3D moddeling our below FISCIT pioner?

[zealous urchin]

there are more and less useful degrees also

[cyan leaf]

Why doesnt a third freight car not getting loaded?

[placid comet]

When docked, you need to have a freight station that lines up with the cars. If you want a specific car loaded or unloaded, arrange your stations accordingly

If you intend to have a long line of trains, you're in for a long line of stations or empty lanes

[proven hornet]

Hi does anyone know if the hypertube rail cannon design where u place hypertubes and rotate still work, i cant place the third hypertube

[cosmic adder]

You mean entrances? For hypertube Cannon?

Oh nvm

[proven hornet]

yea i got a video, can i send it to u cause its kinda hard to explain the design

[cosmic adder]

Ik what ya mean, i never did these. So cannot tell

[proven hornet]

Oh kk algs

[shy mulch]

This sort of thing belongs in #1038092680493801533 you can post attachments to your question there

[proven hornet]

na mate dont wanna wait like 10 years

[hybrid nymph]

I am American yes. I am obsessed with my qualifications because I worked hard for them.

I am going back to college to get an IT degree

It took me 6 1/2 years to get those qualifications. I am planning to move to Germany in 2030 though

[shy mulch]

Of course you worked hard for them, and you should be very rightfully proud of your achievements. I was meaning more generally. It seems that America puts a lot more weight on such things, than the rest of the world does

[hybrid nymph]

Not enough people respect my qualificastions, espeically those with only highschool diplomas. The amount of times I've been told I'm stupid by people less intelligent than me I couldn't even tell you

[shy mulch]

I feel that we may have something in common there 🙂

[hybrid nymph]

I happen to be smarter than about 97% of Americans

[cosmic adder]

I do agree, why lot of people learn lot and to much in America. I took only what i will need for my job.

[cosmic adder]

Im sorry to tell, but all 99.9%. It seems like lot of Americas still think Europe is country. So you are smarter than 99.9% :)

[shy mulch]

I'm fairly confident I'm in the top 1% in terms of raw IQ, but my autism has made it quite challenging to turn that ability into real world results. I've spent my whole life being told I'm wasting my brain by working jobs that are beneath me, even though I do what most people would consider a fairly prestigious job, and I earn very well

[hybrid nymph]

I know Europe is a continent made up of 25+ countries

I'm not as stupid as most Americans are

I have autism too, high functioning, but I was treated like I was stupid my entire life growing up because of it

[cosmic adder]

[shy mulch]

The challenge is that the bottom 5% shout 100x louder than the top 5%, so from the outside it makes the country look a lot worse than it is

[hybrid nymph]

Prettymuch every person who voted for Trump is like that

I voted for Cornel West

[shy mulch]

While I agree with you, I think it would be wise to steer away from political opinioning on this channel

[cosmic adder]

So..anyone got refference image in could use to make 3D model of satisfactory pioner?

[hybrid nymph]

okay sounds good

[shy mulch]

That would be awesome to see! ❤️

[cosmic adder]

Yep, i think no server allows that in general ones

[hybrid nymph]

I want to show you guys my steel and oil plants

[cosmic adder]

Yeah, but i need refference image to know size and so on. So gotta see if anyone has anything

[ivory condor]

now im curious on what this job is

[shy mulch]

I read that as "steel and oil pants" and thought the conversation was going in a very different direction haha

[shy mulch]

I am a consultant in the finance industry, I know that's vague but don't really want to elaborate more on such a wide and public channel

[hybrid nymph]

thoughts on steel and oil?

just shared them in #screenshots

[ivory condor]

interesting, those jobs usually pay very well in either case

[shy mulch]

are you looking for suggestions, opinions, praise? happy to provide any or all of the above

[shy mulch]

it's the stability that's attractive for me, that might sound funny as that industry is not known for being stable, but as a former company director, I enjoy the peace of mind being able to have a 9-5 job and can fully switch off my mind in the weekends and evenings

[cosmic adder]

Steels seems to have spagethi

[hybrid nymph]

yeah it kind of does, I made steel fairly quickly, but I took my time with oil

[undone citrus]

Just surpassed the friend who recommend me satisfactory in the first place in play time

That's kinda funny lol

He's played since update 8, but not very much

I've played since December 4th lol

[hybrid nymph]

wow good for you

I have been playing since update 6 in July of 2023

I took a break for about 6 months in 2024, then came back after the 1.0 release, then took another break in January of 2025 then came back in August, then took another break and came back in December

I currently have 576 hours in the game

[native frost]

Ive play nearly 500hours in the past 2 months

[nimble karma]

Hi

[hybrid nymph]

I think that's all for tonight, it's nearly 3:30 in the morning

I can always play tomorrow

[native frost]

Tomorrow is now

[teal geyser]

Yes. Lazy made a good point, that being in which you need to do a bit of math when playing this game when determining how much machines can run off of how much resources you are producing in the first place

[versed mesa]

Hello all how's the game doing not played for a bit now

Was anything added for Christmas?

[grizzled lotus]

yes, the ficsmas event. don't know if it's still on

[versed mesa]

I just looked a video and believe its on until January sometime

What was added with it ?

[grizzled lotus]

I think there's some quest about collecting chrismasy event? Not sure, I opted out cause I wasn't interested

[versed mesa]

Far

I mite come back if they drop a good enough update

That will be 2026

[grizzled lotus]

still playing, the furthest I've reached was aluminum then I stopped for a good while. on a new run now

[versed mesa]

Great job

Ive stopped because am not fully sure where to go with my factories

[grizzled lotus]

I guess if you've unlocked every thing it becomes a question of aesthetics and design

at that point I'll probably just move on to another game

[versed mesa]

Theres so much thats kind of required and just knowing where to go woth them like Automating trucks and drones and what factory is producing what and which factory is needing it all this is mind boggling

[versed mesa]

I am on phase 5 with it I left off where I was building Nuclear setups then I stopped

[grizzled lotus]

yeah. that's kind of why I stopped at aluminum. It got kind of overwhelming.

[versed mesa]

Exactly

[grizzled lotus]

my thing now is just to enjoy the process. instead of trying hard to reach the next milestone (by buying stuff using coupons) I just slowly take a step-by-step process on automating components

[versed mesa]

Plus harder when you dealing with depression and anxiety

[grizzled lotus]

that's tough, sorry to hear that. but I think stuff like that can be a relief if you don't stress it

I remember I bought a lot of stuff using coupons and at one point I needed so much stuff, and I realized that if I automated all that before I wouldn't be backlogged with necessary tasks lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah i think this is the best ways to go and i think start with one location and making that factory look cool and produce what ever and then gradually move on to 2nd build and try plan it gradually or so

[grizzled lotus]

just don't visit #screenshots then you'll never be happy with what you've built lol

[versed mesa]

@grizzled lotus like the game is cool because you can build but setting up phases gets really hard and thats now phase 5 lol

[grizzled lotus]

what do you mean setting up phases?

[versed mesa]

I mean unlocking stuff in phases

1 to 5

[grizzled lotus]

ah. oh you definitely need to automate that once you unlock it

[versed mesa]

With 5 being hardest lol

[grizzled lotus]

I'm at the end of the current phase and I still haven't built a single one of one of the parts lol

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[grizzled lotus]

one thing I did which was fun was just move away to the other side of the map. like I left my base and everything as is and just used a hypertube cannon to shoot to another starting point

[versed mesa]

@grizzled lotus you not build nuclear gen ?

[versed mesa]

Yeah building in new location is really cool

Then you can try do better with your builds

Each build you improve

[grizzled lotus]

on the last run I had just unlocked detecting uranium, then I dropped the game. I'm on a new file now and I'm on the phase where I get trains and computers

[versed mesa]

Awesome

[grizzled lotus]

like, there are a few things I'm doing now that make the game more manageable; 1) take it easy. 2) automate every part the moment you unlock it. that's kind of it.

one thing I hated was crafting nobelisks, kind of stressful and inconvenient. but now I automated explosve rebars and hooked them up to a dimensional depot. I now have infinite ammo lol. which is nice cause I can kill stuff and blow stuff without needing to go back to my base

[versed mesa]

Take it easy is best to not sweat it lol

[grizzled lotus]

I got stuff to do now. nice chatting with you

[fluid sapphire]

Your progress in phase 5 heavily depends on how well you set up in phase 4

[versed mesa]

Even if I am trying to take it easy I still sweat it either way lmao

[fluid sapphire]

If you have done your homework, phase 5 is quite easy

[versed mesa]

Ok you to have fun

[versed mesa]

Damn

[fluid sapphire]

If you eat your veggies, that is, set up some level of production for every component in phase 4, it doesn't seem so bad

I haven't actually finished phase 4 myself yet, but after after everything I am setting up, phase 5 looks like cakewalk

[remote rock]

does someone know the best way to get 15k MW to jumpstart my power plant?

[hard ivy]

15 GW

[remote rock]

same thing

[hard ivy]

One is accepted by the SI, the other is not

[remote rock]

My current fuel power plant makes 42.5 GW. but im gonna replace it with one that makes 225 GW but i need 15 GW to get it started. what should i do to get it going?

how many power storages would i need to build?

[hard ivy]

Assuming it needs 15 GW more than you're currently making otherwise it wouldn't be an issue

The easiest solution would be to build a bunch of augmenters. Even temporary ones

As for power storage, I think 1 h of capacity is usually enough. Maybe 2 if it's a nuclear plant. So 15-30 GWh. So 150-300 power storage

[remote rock]

getting the new power plant started only uses 15GW. but im removing my current one and replacing it. so ill only have a 2.5GW from my old coal plant and geisers left

[remote rock]

im replacing my diluted fuel plant with a rocket fuel plant

so i wont be able to use the power output from my old one to start the new one

[limber mulch]

This year for Christmas, I'm going to complete Phase 4!

[zealous urchin]

and if u genuinly wanted help on this one why did u withdraw that information until now

[remote rock]

i literally said im gonna replace my current one

fine, ill just build like 300 power storages

thanks for the help

[queen slate]

Gl 😄

That wasn’t sarcastic if it came across as sarcasm

Is the Christmas event worth progressing I just unlocked steel if that helps you as to what stage of the game I am

[hard ivy]

Normally, you'd use your old power plant to start up the new one. Which is why completely replacing a power plant is generally a bad idea

But if you already did that, then yeah, power storage is the only option

[compact flicker]

The humble 200 biofuel generators on a separate grid:

[shy mulch]

It's easy enough to calculate exactly what's needed. How much time does it need 15GW for before the new plant will start producing it's own power?

[fluid sapphire]

I think using power storage is an equally valid option rather than a plan B

[deep bloom]

I've been wondering this, how much harder is it to play the game without alternate recipes. This is my first playthrough (although I have seen many others). I was wondering if anyone recommends to go straight into alternate recipes or get used to the normal ones first

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't say it's 'harder' atll, it'll just take longer

[fluid sapphire]

Recipes are completely arbitrary, it's not like the default recipes are somehow more correct to use

[deep bloom]

that's good to know, I like going slow, don't want to rush things

[fluid sapphire]

Use whatever you want

[shy mulch]

Don't think of alternate recipes as alternates, they are jus recipes. Collect them all and pick the best recipe for your use case

[deep bloom]

every playthrough I see, even new ones sometimes people go straight to getting hard drives

[grizzled lotus]

I'm at phase 3 and I feel like it's a "design check" thing. there are some complex parts and you need to set stuff up well

[dense violet]

just less options and probably a lot more trains and other logistics

[remote rock]

i dont know

[fluid sapphire]

Totally valid way to go

[remote rock]

i havent done it yet

[dense violet]

also you lose out on a lot of resource efficient recipes

[deep bloom]

I guess whatever fits the situation and mindset

[deep bloom]

yeah I'll probably go with the really really good ones just to save headaches and time

[shy mulch]

If you want accurate answers to your question that is necessary info. If you don't want to work that out that's fine, but you'll only get guesses which you were already able to do yourself

[fluid sapphire]

For sure, it can often also be helpful to overshoot production goals just a little

[dense violet]

they are all good - they all give you various options and different paths

[remote rock]

how would i work that out?

[dense violet]

and they mostly depend on which ones you combo together

[deep bloom]

yeah, I thought some sucked

[dense violet]

they do different things. If you don't want to use them in that path? that's fine. Doesn't mean they're bad

[fluid sapphire]

1 power storage can power a 100MW system for 1 hour

[deep bloom]

yeah That's important, good call

[fluid sapphire]

Math out how much power your new power plant uses

Or don't, and just build like 1000 power storage units and don't worry about the math

[deep bloom]

Depends on the situation I guess

[shy mulch]

Look at each step in your process and the speed it produces at and how much you need to fill your manifolds before you turn on your generators

[remote rock]

i can only do that after ive built it though

[dense violet]

for example, there's a set or recipes that you can make super computers from only caterium and oil

uses a fair bit of both - is that good? maybe.

[remote rock]

so probably 200-300 power storages

[shy mulch]

You were able to predict that it needs 15GW, so you must know exactly what machines there are

[remote rock]

yeah i guess so

[fluid sapphire]

Sure, I always advocate for some excess

[remote rock]

is building a 225GW rocket fuel power plant even worth it or should i just go nuclear?

[deep bloom]

I guess it also depends on how much of a resource you have available in the world. like all my oil could be used up on something. Ok, that makes sense now, the alternate recipes are - go figure - alternate ways to play the game. so that if you are struggling on a resource, you can get alternate recoipes to make stuff differently

thanks a lot, I know it was a simple question and probably a stupid one, but I understand now, haha. thanks

[fluid sapphire]

Sure it's worth it, you can also do both

[remote rock]

im not really ready for nuclear yet so maybe after

[dense violet]

Exactly, you could use groups of recipes that mean you only use a few drops of quartz

Or use quartz heavy recipes and drain the map dry

[hard ivy]

If you haven't started building the new plant or removing the old one, then the easiest solution would be just to build the rocket fuel plant somewhere else. Then you won't need any power storage

[dense violet]

No stress! The value of recipes are basically entirely dependent on your creativity 🙂

[remote rock]

i considered that but the place i have planned has all the resources nearby and all in the right amounts

[dense violet]

Also how you like to do things

[fluid sapphire]

I think for most people completely draining a given resource on a map is probably not an issue regardless of recipes

[dense violet]

You could drain caterium and sulfur pretty easily

[deep bloom]

Yeah, ig I still have to find out how valuable they are, still a bit early on in the game to properly find out

[zealous urchin]

its not that much harder but few are mandatory
heavy encased frame
solid steel
heavy oil residue
diluted fuel
recycled rubber/plastic
pure aluminum ingot
dark matter crystalization

now watch somebody disagree bcs of opinion 3, 2, 1....

[real shale]

I disagree, you forgot sloppy alumina

[fluid sapphire]

Sure, but the average player probably won't

[deep bloom]

I have heard recycled rubber/plastic is good

[dense violet]

Satisfactorytools,com is also great for it because you can swap out recipes and compare total resource used in a plan in seconds

[zealous urchin]

u can make a case that none of them are mandatory but they are big qol improvements

happy xmas everyone

[deep bloom]

yeah still getting my head around website, I will eventually though

[dense violet]

Probably not - but I kinda really want to make a massive electronic factory that uses all the crystal recipes and crumystal distillation 😄

[fluid sapphire]

So many great recipes for simplifying production, those are my favorites, even if they are not always "resource efficient"

[dense violet]

Super worth the effort. Probably the most powerful planning tool around

[deep bloom]

you can have two factories making the same resource using two different recipes can't you

[fluid sapphire]

Absolutely

[deep bloom]

hell yeah

[zealous urchin]

no, ur game save will be corrupted

[grizzled lotus]

I wish this game had a doggo picker-upper. so I can just carry the lizard wherever

[dense violet]

Not in the same tab.
But you can just make another tab and make it an ‘input’ in the other

[fluid sapphire]

Completely different recipe chains

Yess

[dense violet]

Unless you meant a factory not tools?

[deep bloom]

like I could have two screw factories each using different recipes

[dense violet]

Oh sure

[fluid sapphire]

Screws are not the best example probably

[dense violet]

I’ve done that a few times.

[shy mulch]

Recipe is set per machine

[deep bloom]

wet concrete then i guess

[deep bloom]

good to know unlcoking an alternate recipe doesn't replace the original one

[fluid sapphire]

Sure, those are pretty basic products, the possible chains get more varied as the products get more complex

There's already a lot of ways to make something like motors for example

And it only grows from there

[dense violet]

Oh god no xD

You basically can’t do anything in this game that locks you out if content

[deep bloom]

Yeah I can imagine

[deep bloom]

that's a great thing about this game, it is so open to different playstyles, that's why I love it

[fluid sapphire]

As an example, I think motors are great, you can make them entirely from iron

Using alternate recipes

[deep bloom]

hmm interesting I'll have to scavenge every drop pod to go find the good recipes

knowing my luck they would be the last ones I scan

[zealous urchin]

aluminum rotor

[dense violet]

So lots of options for how to use recipes, but I truly don’t understand the love of iron pipe

Coal and iron are so commonly next to each other abd iron pipe chews through so much iron

[deep bloom]

I'm too early to be worrying about this though, not even in phase 3 haha

[fluid sapphire]

The pool is limited by what you have unlocked, so if you unlock recipes early, you will probably have an easier time

[deep bloom]

good to know

[bright echo]

I am all alone on christmas eve. I am not a streamer but thinking of just casually streaming today christmas factory building. Would somebody care to join for chat later?

[deep bloom]

sure

[fluid sapphire]

Idk personally I like it because wherever iron pipe fits, I am already making iron ingots, and the cost in extra iron is whatever, iron is so abundant

[whole drum]

You can also scan a bunch without doing the rescan so you have like 8-10 banked, then save.

From there you can use the rescans to save scum the recipes you absolutely want.

[deep bloom]

I completely forgot about rescan

isnt rescan useless if you get every hard drive

or is thre more alternate recipes than hard drives

[fluid sapphire]

It's just a way to get what you want a bit quicker

[deep bloom]

Yeah I guess so

[whole drum]

I like the recipe for nodes where I need steel pipes, but coal isn't nearby.

[deep bloom]

I just realised there are no vc channels

[whole drum]

You didn't read the final rule in the list in invisible text: ||No fun allowed in the Discord.||

This is super serious business.

[deep bloom]

of utmost importance

[unkempt blade]

if you're not having fun you're just not using enough factory carts yet!

[remote rock]

what do the factory carts do?

[deep bloom]

what don't they do

[remote rock]

i dont know, i havent got them yet

[deep bloom]

oh. uh they are cool and drive around you factory

[unkempt blade]

they drive around and deliver stuff like tiny adorable trucks

[deep bloom]

just hope you aren't claustrophobic

[unkempt blade]

they're also the best vehicle in the game to build a skatepark for

[remote rock]

nice

[deep bloom]

ooh sounds interesting

I should try that

[remote rock]

doesnt seem super useful for my gameplay style but ok

[deep bloom]

fair enough

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, not everyone is a funmaxer

[deep bloom]

it is more on the whimsey side anyways

[remote rock]

i could do with some whimsey, im about to build 900 fuel generators

[unkempt blade]

they actually have pretty good throughput #screenshots message if you use enough on a route and they don't use fuel

[deep bloom]

oh, yeah with something that big, you always need some whimsey

[remote rock]

im building my 225GW rocket fuel power plant 😢

[deep bloom]

damn, goodluck.

[remote rock]

im having to use 300 power storages to jumpstart it

[deep bloom]

It must be good then

[remote rock]

the factory part makes 3,750m^3 of rocket fuel to power the gens, along with 340 packaged fuel and 300 packaged turbo fuel on the side

[deep bloom]

never thought of using them to actually carry stuff

[deep bloom]

Nice! This permanent I assume?

[remote rock]

yeah

[unkempt blade]

the reason mechanics-wise that it isn't just a meme is because load/unload time is based on the vehicle's inventory size so they carry less but load and unload VERY quickly

[remote rock]

it will suffice until i go nuclear (which is ages away)

[deep bloom]

That should do you for the rest of the game right ( I don't actually know, I haven't got there yet)

[remote rock]

i hope so

[deep bloom]

yeah, never thought there was that big of a gap between turbo fuel/rocket fuel and Nuclear

[remote rock]

there isnt really, but its more im not ready for nuclear and have run out of power

[hot mango]

i feel like i have been robbed, only 3 out of the 5 little nipples on my ficsmas snow dispenser gives out any snow, and i have made more and they are all like that ☹️

[remote rock]

so im building the biggest power plant i can without going nuclear

[deep bloom]

fair enough, your playthrough after all, hope the rocket fuel plant works out good

[deep bloom]

nuclear is dangerous so it is best to be ready and careful

got to have backups for backups and whatnot

[remote rock]

exactly

[deep bloom]

yeah makes sense now

[white dawn]

I mean, 225GW would be more than sufficient for most players' engame; don't actually need to do nuclear if you've already built out RF at that scale

[cosmic adder]

Anyone has pižner character lined sketches maybe? (For 3D moddeling)

[remote rock]

a nuclear plant that uses 100% uranium on the map only makes 459GW

[white dawn]

(also: nuclear's not dangerous. Radiation danger in the game has a fearsome reputation it doesn't really deserve)

[deep bloom]

nuclear is cool though would be awesome to get there eventually. only when the player is ready though

[deep bloom]

doesn't ficsonium make more power

[white dawn]

Max Nuclear is something like 13TW

[white dawn]

Nah, Ficsonium's just for folks who want to 1) Burn Plutonium, and 2) Have "Clean" Nuclear anyway. It doesn't add very much more power to the system

[deep bloom]

aah

[remote rock]

not from my calculations

[white dawn]

(and there's also not enough SAM on the map to fully process into Ficsonium, if you're doing really big nuclear buildouts)

[white dawn]

Your calculations are wrong.

[deep bloom]

yeah sam is hardly anywhere

[remote rock]

i assumed so, it always seemed like not much power

theres only 2,100/min uranium ore on the map

[white dawn]

sftools can't solve "through" each stage of nuclear power, since NPPs aren't actually "recipes" and the solver currently only uses real recipes, but here's 50.4/min Uranium Rods without introducing resource conversion (which is 630GW): https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=e7xwGbuASLoqSJVkotWS

And that's without even adding Plutonium on top

(Technically not being able to solve "through" NPPs means that a non-resource-conversion plant might not actually be producing that full 50.4/min Uranium Rods, since some of those resource might need to go over to Plutonium instead)

(I don't recall what exactly the pre-1.0 numbers were, in the end)

But with resource conversion the power ceiling for nuclear is incredibly high

[remote rock]

right

[white dawn]

KYO297's probably got the current numbers off the top of their head. :)

[neat galleon]

guys, i have a question about trains...i have a train station that has 5 freight platforms...the first three i have set up to load items for train A to take to another factory. The last two plaforms are for train B to bring in raw materials. However, Train B keeps getting loaded with the items only designated for train A. even though on the time table, I have train B set to only unload and not to load anything

[white dawn]

I think pre-1.0 "Max Nuclear" was something like 2-3TW

[neat galleon]

can anyone help me

ive just seen the option when adding on the load, to say nothing. should i use that option?

[remote rock]

interesting, see i only calcuated there to be enough uranium ore to make 21 fuel rods/ minute

[white dawn]

Honestly, IMO use two separate stations instead of one. Would require some redesign but would be much simpler

[neat galleon]

oh thats gonna suuuuuuuck omfal

[white dawn]

It's a complex chain for sure! Most folks end up using a solver like sftools to help out with big chains like that. :)

[neat galleon]

lfmao*

[remote rock]

yeah i was using sfcalculator. and i dont know where its gone wrong with it

[white dawn]

Didn't add in alt recipes maybe?

[remote rock]

thats what im thinking

there must be some alternates that are more uranium ore efficient

[white dawn]

Yes, basically all alts in the nuclear chain are there to improve Uranium efficiency

[remote rock]

this is exactly why im building a rocket fuel plant and not a nuclear one yet

[fluid sapphire]

It should work, yes

[unkempt blade]

omfal indeed

[white dawn]

There's one which is sort of a trap -- in the Plutonium chain, Fertile Uranium requires that you put more raw Uranium into the system, which does end up making you a lot more Plutonium Rods in the end. But if you work the numbers, you're better off just sending that Uranium into the first Uranium steps instead. (You end up with more power per Uranium in the end. Though IMO the difference isn't gigantic, so if someone had already committed to it, I wouldn't sweat it)

[unkempt blade]

uraniumaxing seems like a lot of work though

[remote rock]

luckily im not building the rocket fuel plant from scratch, im upgrading my regular fuel plant, so i already have the initial buildings done. its just the extra steps (and the 730 more fuel generators) i need to place

[mild glacier]

Hallo! Just wanted to quickly ask, would yall recommend the cast screws alternate recipe? Knowing screws are used a shit ton, it feels rlly good, but still wanted to make sure (5 iron ingots to 20 screws)

[fluid sapphire]

Got a game plan for the generators?

[fluid sapphire]

Skips a production step, so yeah it can be useful, but once you have some more recipes, it's possible to sidestep screws entirely

[remote rock]

nope

[fluid sapphire]

#1409497660662222888 message

[mild glacier]

Well, i could just not choose the alternate recipes that get rid of screws

(Or, not too many, atleast)

[fluid sapphire]

Up to you, just know that eventually screws are optional

[remote rock]

ive already got 160 built from the fuel plant, so i figured i would just copy what ive got too multiple floors

[fluid sapphire]

Sure

[mild glacier]

I’ll take them then, atleast during most of early and mid game it should be useful

[remote rock]

or maybe reduce it down to 100 per floor or something, idk yet

[fluid sapphire]

The way I did it is quick, is all I'm saying :p

About an hour to build 600 generators

[remote rock]

i completely forgot that blueprints were a thing

i think the most space efficient will be 3 floors with 300 gens per floor

[fluid sapphire]

Sure, maybe

It's a perfect candidate for vertical builds though hehhh

#screenshots message

[remote rock]

bro what the hell is that?

i was just gonna build a massive platform of regular foundations and copy that 3 times. no fancy stuff (im a really bad builder)

[fluid sapphire]

The red buildings are generators, each roughly 600

[remote rock]

thats crazy

[fluid sapphire]

The walls took longer than the generators lol

[remote rock]

and the raised train lines 🤩

[whole drum]

The game is plenty fun. ||It's the Discord that isn't allowed to be.||

[remote rock]

inspiring me to comepletly destroy and rebuild the plant (waste many more hours than i need too)

[fluid sapphire]

Aah, dont do that :p

[remote rock]

but mine looks to bad now

[fluid sapphire]

Nah, go your own path, I also feel bad about my builds when I look at other people's

You can always dress stuff up

I do the bare minimum, repetitive styling for my buildings

But it keeps me moving

[remote rock]

no like my world i really a mess compared to yours

and i see it now

[compact flicker]

CoffeeStain! Let me auto align all connected foundations to the same direction and my life is yours!!

[remote rock]

???

[whole drum]

No shot it's as bad as my first world. Still, I didn't rebuild it. You just add on, or try things differently in a new game. Embrace the history of your learning curve.

[compact flicker]

I want all my foundations to be oriented in the same direction >:

[unkempt blade]

global grid does that if you're using it already

[whole drum]

You're not going to build any of them offset or at 45 degree angles?

[sterile blade]

Have you tried rebuilding each in the correct orienteation?

[compact flicker]

It takes soooo lonnnngggf

[whole drum]

That's not the same. The foundations have a pattern on them, so you can have some that are faced horizontally while others vertically--all while being placed in a 'grid.'

[remote rock]

does that even matter?

[sterile blade]

Retroffitting is almost always painful

[remote rock]

but i hate it now

[unkempt blade]

asphalt doesn't have those issues

[compact flicker]

It looks better

[whole drum]

Not for me to say

[compact flicker]

Concrete doesnt. Asphalt does

:3c

[amber tangle]

theres a rock inside my coal node

[compact flicker]

I mean concrete does have a texture you can notice if you look at it long enough

And oh boy is that annoying

[amber tangle]

can u get rid of rocks in this game

like the big grey ones

[compact flicker]

Yes Riko

[unkempt blade]

yes, research stuff in the MAM

[amber tangle]

tragic

[deep bloom]

I wish there was a chimney that you could just place and create ambient smoke

[remote rock]

is there no pipe mk3?

aww man

[amber tangle]

how u do unlock the ability to use clocking on ur power

[compact flicker]

Research power slugs

[tame bobcat]

are hypertubes worth it? got some time to kill while i wait for my phase 2 materials to automate

[compact flicker]

Look up hypertube cannon

[amber tangle]

i need mah blue power slug

[vague burrow]

Are cluster nobelisks strictly better than the regular ones?

[whole drum]

They cost more, so not "strictly," and there's increased risk of self harm.

They are more powerful and can allow you to do things that regular nobs can't, though, so they are mostly better.

[vague burrow]

Okay, but it's not like they can't blow up something that a regular one can, right?

[whole drum]

Right

This game doesn't differentiate between exposives. It either is or isn't. Explosive Rebar can destroy anything nobs can.

[vague burrow]

Okay, I've been manually crafting the regular ones, but I think I am going to skip to the regular nobs in my production line. I mainly just use them to clear veg. at this point.

[sudden flint]

broke: panic because I'm not using my nodes to their greatest extent
woke: I'm overclocking them. By definition, they're already over 100% usage

[remote rock]

how does one delete blueprints?

[sudden flint]

f to dismantle mode. r to go to blueprint mode

hover over your buildable, hold and delete

[remote rock]

no i mean like remove them from the blueprints list

i accidentaly saved a blank blueprint and dont know how to remove it from the saved blueprints list

[amber tangle]

can u just remove it from ur files

[remote rock]

nevermind

[sudden flint]

I think you open the build gun and there should be a settings button somewhere to manage them. then delete?

[remote rock]

i figured it out

i feel stupid

[amber tangle]

can u save more than 1 custom color

[stark lily]

i dont think so
i just made a note of what the hex codes were

[sudden flint]

save em as presets in your color picker :)

[amber tangle]

oh in the default section?

i see thanks

[vague burrow]

What rifle ammo does everyone use as their default ammo?

[cunning lily]

Default ammo 👍

Got the rest stored in dimensional depot

[mortal ginkgo]

homming for now because of its 20 ammo count

and well, it is homming

[compact flicker]

I just use nobelisk >:3

[sudden flint]

Mmmmmmmm

76 tickets worth of pure decorational material

I love early-game crash sites

[hard ivy]

Not true, actually. I have found one plant in the swamp that couldn't be destroyed by explosive rebar, but a regular nobelisk worked just fine

[sudden flint]

and I love exploiting FICSMAS for early-game materials

[unkempt blade]

yeah but ficsmas presents get gifted not exploited

otherwise the spirits of ficsmas will visit you tonight and show you how you've lived your life wrong

[rugged shard]

Guys I’m few hours in game and my fuel is leaves, can I get something better early on?

Cuz they run out kinda fast

[unkempt blade]

wood 🙂

[rugged shard]

How do I get it

[unkempt blade]

the same ways as leaves

[white dawn]

You can turn leaves, wood, and alien remains into "Biomass," which is an upgrade. When you unlock the chainsaw, you can then further refine the Biomass into "Solid Biofuel," which is the "best" biofuel-tier thing to use in burners

[compact flicker]

Make biomass in the crafting bench

[rugged shard]

Uh I’m near tree but I can’t do anything whit it

[whole drum]

That is more likely a clipping issue than anything to do with the explosive type

[rugged shard]

Damn thanks

[thick burrow]

Burn the big weird creature for energy

[white dawn]

I'm not sure where exactly you are in the unlocks, but eventually it is very handy to set up a few storage containers where you can just dump either leaves, wood, or alien remains, which then get belted over to Constructors which turn that into biomass, and then another constructor to turn 'em into Solid Biofuel, and then get belted (via some splitters) directly into your Burners

[white dawn]

Do you have the chainsaw unlocked?

[rugged shard]

Nope

[white dawn]

There is wood available on the ground to pick up, depending on where you are

[rugged shard]

Also how do you turn it to biomass

[white dawn]

But the chainsaw tends to be your most effective way of getting it (and will let you chop down those trees, etc)

[unkempt blade]

they onboarding does explain how this stuff works if you've never played before you might want to listen to the voice stuff when you unlock research

[white dawn]

I honestly don't remember the very-early-game unlock process super well; it might be something you haven't unlocked yet. But, you can either hand-craft it in your HUB, or set up a Constructor to do it for you

But yeah, pay attention to ADA during this onboarding process. If you miss any messages, you can open up your Codex (key is o on PC) to re-play anything she's said to you. :)

[sudden flint]

I just opened the whole advent calendar, flushed the FICSMAS drives down the toilet, and disabled the event because it would be too distracting in the early stages

[rugged shard]

Oh wait I see on next upgrade I’ll unlock biomass

[white dawn]

Yeah, just follow the onboarding for awhile; it'll get you where you need to be

[unkempt blade]

truly Grinch behavior

[white dawn]

Once you're out of onboarding, I'd recommend prioritizing getting to that Chainsaw unlock; it really takes the pressure off of biomass collection

(Note that you do not necessarily have to unlock the milestones "in order" once you're through that initial Onboarding stage. You can pick and choose depending on what you've got available. :)

[unkempt blade]

my survival game muscle memory kicks in and I just mash the crap out of gather any time I'm running haha

[rugged shard]

Oh wait

I have 2 biomass burners, they came whit upgrade

And I put leaves inside

[hard ivy]

I tried several times from different angles and it refused to blow up when using rebar but exploded just fine when I threw a nobelisk where I shot a rebar before

Maybe nobelisks just have a slightly longer radius? The tree has wide roots and doesn't explode at all when the explosion is too high up the trunk. So maybe the hitbox is down by the roots and the rebar's explosion doesn't reach it

[whole drum]

I wonder if you could use a no-clip command to shoot it from under the map with the rebar?

[rugged shard]

What does like quality or something does, bc I see there’s one pure limestone place and one impure

[sudden flint]

pure gives double the default rate, impure gives half

[mortal ginkgo]

Impure Limestone Node is best node, yes.

[sudden flint]

for the first mark of miner, the default rate is 60/minute

[sudden flint]

nobody else thinks so.

[rugged shard]

😭

[mortal ginkgo]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sudden flint]

(Outside of the bit, I'm sure you're a wonderful person. Within the bit, however, I think differently)

[hard ivy]

Default node production (normal node, mk1 miner) is 60/min. Impure makes half that, pure makes double.

Each miner tier upgrade doubles production of all nodes

And miners can be overclocked to produce up to 2.5 times more than normal

And remember that you are also capped by the belt you're connect to the miner. A miner capable of making 480/min won't make any more than 270 when you connect a mk3 belt to it

[cobalt dagger]

Hello guys, I have a question: how long, on average, does it take a new player to complete ALL 5 stages of the game without turning it off or interrupting their play session? This assumes they know nothing about the game and don't use any guides.

[whole drum]

There is no average

[compact flicker]

60 to 600 hours

[hard ivy]

There is an average. It's just that the distribution is wide

[whole drum]

It all depends on how you learn, prior experience with automation games, comfortability with math, planning skills, distractibility, etc

[whole drum]

And we don't know what it is

[teal geyser]

You are going to be sitting in your gaming chair for a very, very long time then

[hard ivy]

howlongtobeat.com says ~100h

I'm inclined to believe that
At least for people who don't decorate much

[leaden turret]

sitting on toilet with gaming laptop, you mean

[unkempt blade]

My 1.0 save was a little longer than that but if the goal was just finishing content + achievements you could hit under 100 if you know what you're doing

[mortal ginkgo]

200 hours imho, if they do some exploring shenaningas for alien artifacts

[leaden turret]

-# ||when the shit hits the cpu fan||

[mortal ginkgo]

much much less if one knows what they are doing

[unkempt blade]

look at these casuals out here not even getting a poop bucket ready before a gaming binge

[teal geyser]

"You're going to the bathroom, you're not playing Battlefield. When you're shitting in a bucket, you're playing Battlefield." - Colonel 100

[rugged shard]

How do I make like that 3 conveyors go to 1

Is that possible

[hard ivy]

A merger

[rugged shard]

How does one achieve this

[fluid sapphire]

It's a buildable item

[hard ivy]

Unlocked in tier 1, milestone "logistics"

[unkempt blade]

going to respectfully suggest you pay attention during onboarding again

[hard ivy]

Merger are unlocked after onboarding

[rugged shard]

I’m at hub phase 6 rn

[hard ivy]

Right after

[hard ivy]

Need to finish it then

[rugged shard]

Okay ty

[hard ivy]

6 is the last stage of the onboarding

Then you get access to tier 1 and 2, and you can unlock mergers

[sudden flint]

stitched iron plates...

love them and Iron wire

what kinda ratios even are they???

[mortal ginkgo]

yes.

[hard ivy]

Normal

[sudden flint]

I'm not following...

[hard ivy]

Clock it to 80% if it bothers you so much

[sudden flint]

oh that's so much cleaner

ty

[hollow tangle]

anyway to light ceilings?

[sudden flint]

lighting in the awesome shop :)

[rugged shard]

Is biomass wood better than regular wood

Cuz for 4 wood you get 20 biomass wood

[hollow tangle]

no like i want to shed light on the ceillings not the floor

[sudden flint]

yes, always

[rugged shard]

Hmm okay

[sudden flint]

and solid biofuel is always better than raw biofuel

[hard ivy]

Unless you sloop

[sudden flint]

......?

sloop the biomass?

like it's a good idea but biomass is always better than raw wood

[hard ivy]

Yeah, then you get double the biomass per wood

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

brooo im so bored of biofuel

is there nuclear reactors in this game

[white dawn]

Yes, though that's one of the possible endgame fuels. You've got a few more tiers of power to get through first

Though take heart; once you're past biomass, all of them are 100% automatable

The early game is supposed to be a little bit of a slog

[stray summit]

oh my fckin god
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[white dawn]

(Remember to set up some storage containers where you can just dump things like leaves, wood, and maybe alien remains, which get belted through a series of constructors until the Solid Biofuel is belted directly into the Biomass Burners. You can automate basically everything except for the initial bio material acquisition)

[stray summit]

i cant wait to "accidentially" explode the entire planet

[white dawn]

Heh, Nuclear power itself can't do that, fwiw.

[stray summit]

(thats a good thing cause i neglect half of my friggin base)

[white dawn]

You can build some really big explosive devices later on in the game, though even those are fairly localized. :)

[stray summit]

all i can afford is one coal gen but the nearest coal is like 5 fricktillion miles away

[white dawn]

Coal is one of the first cases of the game encouraging you to expand. Embrace it! Build factories all over the place. :)

[stray summit]

when do i get drones
i heard those exist

[white dawn]

Much later on

[sudden flint]

slide jumping! always do it, you'll thank me later

[stray summit]

wait wh

[white dawn]

The first non-belt logistics method is vehicles (some hate them, but I love me my tractors), then Trains, and then drones

(Of those three, only vehicles + trains are really suitable for pioneer transport, fwiw. There's some shenanigans you can do to hitch a ride on drones but it's touchy, and they're not meant for that purpose)

[stray summit]

holy frigatoni pasta slide jumping is zoom

[sudden flint]

press shift to run. While running, press C to ground slide. Jump up from the ground slide, press C to land and start sliding again, and then jump right away

yes, slide jumping is holy frigatoni zoom

[stray summit]

wish i could do that irl

[sudden flint]

ikr

[stray summit]

"OH ____ IM LATE FOR CLASS!!"
slides into the distance

[mortal ginkgo]

you technically can, though you would hurt/tire your knees before noticing the speed increase

[stray summit]

w h a t k n e e s

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, something gotta make you go jump!

[stray summit]

lol

also this game is factorio on coke
its so awesome

i mean come on ITS 3D!! HEAVILY DETAILED!!! and the assembler has a FULL animation!!

❤️

[mortal ginkgo]

Yep. I love my logistic floors and verticality.

I dont play Factory but it is an interesting change from DSP

[versed cosmos]

Also the world is just so fucking pretty

[mortal ginkgo]

no ur mom LOL GOT'EM GUD KEK

[versed cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

epic embed fail

[stray summit]

ive played factorio demo as im poor af

[mortal ginkgo]

no worries, I clicked it, even when I knew what it was

[whole drum]

Now you're thinking with portals Dimensional Depots!

[stray summit]

the only sucky thing is that theres no anti animal paint all over my factorio

[versed cosmos]

wish we had something that would politely tell the tall guys to stay away

[sudden flint]

this is why nobody uses you.

[versed cosmos]

how do they even get stuck on belts

and inside buildings

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz 😭

[whole drum]

Like a flamethrower turret?

[mortal ginkgo]

its about their spawn point

[versed cosmos]

no just something that they wouldnt approach

[mortal ginkgo]

its not that they approach, they just spawn right what you built on their spawn point

[stray summit]

When life gives you~~ lemons ~~a nice world with a nice scenery, you chainsaw every living animal and plant on the entire planet alongide exploiting the resources it gives.

[versed cosmos]

tbh it is funny where i build my usual computer factory i can usually get a bean on top of a manufacturer

[whole drum]

You make FICS-aid

[versed cosmos]

and it can walk about on top isntead of being stuck like usual

[stray summit]

me when i make an iron factory look like rigatoni pasta

[versed cosmos]

tbh i actually try to preserve some of the nature of my world

ADA would be disappointed

[stray summit]

cant trees grow back

[versed cosmos]

no they cant

[stray summit]

who cares bout that C L A N K E R

[versed cosmos]

but i'm her favourite pioneer!

[languid marlin]

Woah woah woah

[stray summit]

cause youre the 3rd on your planet to survive

[languid marlin]

Calm down there

[stray summit]

naw if christmas ada says its worthless to get presents that they airdrop me..

[versed cosmos]

i found the nobelisk present earlier

was very nice to get some bombs early game

[languid marlin]

Top tier ragebait

[whole drum]

Enjoy all 20 of them

[stray summit]

lol yes

[versed cosmos]

spent them already breaking into the big rocky desert cave

[stray summit]

"MOM MOM I GOT 20 BOMBS!"
santa gave you WHAT?
"BOMBS!"
explodes

[versed cosmos]

also thank you coffee stain for not putting a big spider in that cave

absolutely could have given its size and the nodes u get in there

[stray summit]

they stained their coffee on that big ass spider

[whole drum]

That cave is amazing

[versed cosmos]

2 pure quartz and a normal sam is v nice

[amber tangle]

do u guys think 2 Normal coal nodes is fine for running 2 water extractors for now

[mortal ginkgo]

also one normal quartz more

[versed cosmos]

yea

[whole drum]

You don't actually have to blow up the rocks to get in, btw

[stray summit]

no
dig to the core and exploit the entire planet itself 😄

[versed cosmos]

i know

[whole drum]

It has two other exits

[versed cosmos]

three actually

2 to the north and one to the east

[languid marlin]

Just use the outer core for resources, you don't even need to melt them down

[versed cosmos]

i just build my coal plant on that western beach

[whole drum]

Don't the 2 north combine in one tunnel tho?

[deep bloom]

what does the checkmark do in the AWESOME Shop

[versed cosmos]

no

i mean technically they all do

[stray summit]

it makes an
AWESOME checkmark

[whole drum]

Either way, the west exit is the best exit--right next to your coal

[versed cosmos]

yes

[whole drum]

With FOUR pure irons nearby

[stray summit]

DAMN

[versed cosmos]

that's where i build my modular frames and later heavy frames

[whole drum]

That place was made for your SAM fluctuators

[deep bloom]

is it just an aesthetic thing

[mortal ginkgo]

Rocky Desert is most based starting zone and noone can say otherwise or I throw at dem limestone

[stray summit]

you mean this goober

[whole drum]

North Forest actually just as good (better locationally, but less in raw nearby resources)

[stray summit]

i spawned on the exact opposite side of it

[deep bloom]

** Awesome **

[mortal ginkgo]

its for vertical bros

[versed cosmos]

love rocky desert but it has like no good places for aluminium nearby

[whole drum]

I love verticality, so that's a positive

[versed cosmos]

i go all the way to the swamp for my aluminium

[whole drum]

Yeah, it does. Near your oil.

[mortal ginkgo]

Pink Forest is right beside it and pretty calm and peaceful to work on your factory

[stray summit]

i spawned in the bottom left side of the map
i DID like the nature till i chainsawed the genuine fuck out of it

[versed cosmos]

i aint bringing that node all the way down

[whole drum]

Also, crater lakes are near Rocky D, which is also good place for oil (when you can frack) and aluminum

[versed cosmos]

maybe ill try that

[whole drum]

I build a Super Computer factory up there on one save

[stray summit]

frack you, oil deposit!

i think i killed the chat

[whole drum]

Yup

[stray summit]

they got sucked into the oil refinery

[whole drum]

Nah, it got "appropriated" by US Navy

[versed cosmos]

i got Consumed.

the Window became a Door.

[whole drum]

Do not loop the vein organ

[stray summit]

cutely takes all of your blood vessels and makes alien protein

[versed cosmos]

Your song is harmonious.

[unkempt blade]

I already replaced it all with liquified SAM because ADA said I should

[stray summit]

NO WAI-

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-disintegration-meme-ai-meme-funny-gif-5585270952676380091

epic embed fail

[unkempt blade]

yeah that robot voice is always making helpful suggestions

[stray summit]

that clanker wants to kill all of humanity

[versed cosmos]

no no she's trying to Save The Day

[stray summit]

STD

[versed cosmos]

and the kittens and puppies

[whole drum]

It's Discord permissions fail

||No fun allowed.||

[stray summit]

oh

[versed cosmos]

it's statistically likely that you appreciate the continued existence of kittens and/or puppies

[stray summit]

thats the only thing im saving when i get back to earth
fuck my family
KITTY!!!

[versed cosmos]

man it kinda sucks how we get all the ada dialogue kinda early and we hear her less and less as we progress