satisfactory

[compact flicker]

Do 8 gens and 3 pumps. One full mk2 belt can supply all 8

[silk ocean]

Scaling up nuclear pasta is going to sicken me

[hard ivy]

then it should be in the codex

[frigid meteor]

#screenshots

[hard ivy]

and your MAM tree?

... you don't have all the branches unlocked

[frigid meteor]

oh yeah mb, i thought they werent connected

[remote pasture]

I got 15 coal power generstors. How many water extracktors is that?

[tall lantern]

how much does one coal gen use, vs how much does one extractor provide?

the game's gonna need a lot of simple math like that, so I'd recommend getting used to solving these yourself soon enough
(though planner tools can reduce some of that need)

this was an invitation for the person who asked the question to solve it 😛

that's nice dear

[hard ivy]

Bro just calculate it yourself. It's all basic math

[silk ocean]

On a scale of 1 to "this sux"... transporting dark matter residue by train? xD

[green fiber]

very questionable

its a gas

you know what would be more reasonable? bringing in diamonds or time crystals and turn it directly into dark matter crystals

[hard ivy]

This is so cursed that it hasn't even once occurred to me that this is something you can do

[silk ocean]

It is an abomination of an idea

[green fiber]

This is just one step higher than "transporting photonic matter by train" on the list of questionable ideas

[silk ocean]

True true, all true

Definitely a cursed idea

[green fiber]

"Lemme load up the old train with the LIGHT OF CREATION"

[silk ocean]

lol

Signal priority - coming through - LIGHT OF CREATION here..

It's so cursed I think I'm going to roll with it

[spark sky]

Preparation for an epic snowball fight? #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

extra water goes thru packagers right

never used them

[silk ocean]

Extra water from? Alu?

[reef basin]

there's not really any setup that makes "extra water" afaik

[cunning glade]

no im packaging water for fuel

[silk ocean]

Well, residual water

[dense violet]

reuse it

[cunning glade]

if i connect a pipe with 600 water going thru one packager theres an output on it for pipes

will the rest of the water go thru it

[silk ocean]

Errr xD

[cunning glade]

id assume so

[silk ocean]

Surely like any machine it will just take what it needs

[dense violet]

... if the packager can package 600 a min ? I guess?

[reef basin]

packager is like any other machine - it has recipes, inputs, outputs

[cunning glade]

no like will it passthrough

[silk ocean]

Don't think so

[reef basin]

only if the recipe has fluid output (which it doesn't)

[fluid sapphire]

if you give extra coal to a foundry that makes steel, does the extra coal come out along with the steel on the other end?

[cunning glade]

okay but this has the water output either way so i wasnt sure

[dense violet]

oh THATS what you meant

[reef basin]

foundry also has solid output

[fluid sapphire]

thats because it can operate both ways

both packaging and unpackaging

its not an "output" both ways, its like any other machine, inputs on one end, outputs on the other

[mortal ginkgo]

because it can unpackage. It is not a "go through" thing and not only related to water too. Its just an output.

I think Packager word is confusing when machine can also unpackage

[cunning glade]

hey i wasnt sure so i asked

i didnt wanna think it was and have too re do 80 of them

[silk ocean]

Always worth checking yep

[cunning glade]

it would have worked very well for my setup tho so i wish it worked like that

[dense violet]

just clock teh right amount of water to the packagers, and have a different pipe going elsewhere

[fluid sapphire]

thats a rather unintuitive way for it to work

[fallow vector]

anyone else having a bug where the number keys don't work until you save and reload the save?

or more precise the hotkeys don't work

I don't even know what triggers it. just happens randomly

[golden nexus]

yup , theres a way to unlock it, like build something and delete it or smoething

[fallow vector]

huh

[silk ocean]

Have you ever belted stuff underwater like it feels like peasantry

[mortal ginkgo]

My current make-shift train rail wants to introduce themselves.

[round shell]

Reeeee ||radioactive super spiders reee||

That Biome™️ never again

[silk ocean]

Sounds like a TV series.... That Biome

Not a trekkie as such but like star trek for sure

What like a Stargate... There are portals xD

Endgame? For a while

Maybe expansion... 2nd world

Procedurally generate it XD

[mortal ginkgo]

That REALLY makes it meh tho'. A certain game suffered heavily from that. 10% of the map you discovered means you discovered it all because there wasn't anything else.

[silk ocean]

Yea it's a can of worms

Yellowstone, Slow Horses, Rings of Power, Star Wars Andor/Mandalorian, that sort of stuff xD

[glad quest]

rings of powa .... the amazon lotr show .....

it descetrated the lore

[silk ocean]

Yea.. I don't worry too much about that xD

[glad quest]

fair enough

if it brings u joy im not gonna complain

[silk ocean]

Friend won't watch it tho, because of the lore

[glad quest]

im the same massive fan of hobbit and lotr but i just cannot face watching it

[silk ocean]

Yea you have to kinda detach it from mainline LOTR and just treat it as a spin-off I guess

Yep

[glad quest]

i need to watch them again

theres 5 now right

[silk ocean]

There is a Narnia (2026) coming

[fluid sapphire]

i got the lotr anniversary edition as a gift a few years ago and read it, great series indeed

[mortal ginkgo]

Dear me.

[fluid sapphire]

chonker with like 1100 pages

[silk ocean]

Yea the Peter Jackson movies are fairly faithful to the books... skips a few things like the Barrow Downs, but it's mostly in-line

But but... Aslan xD

[fluid sapphire]

changing things for film adaptations is an inevitability, not everything translates or fits

[silk ocean]

True

[fluid sapphire]

the lotr film series is an incredible time capsule though, we will truly never, ever get anything like that again

true lightning in a bottle

harry potter is chock full of nonsensical inconsistencies that are hard to ignore once you notice them

[mortal ginkgo]

But he is a wizard!

That "sports" they do is a literal madness to exist. 😄

[silk ocean]

Potter Legacy is free on Epic at atm, until 18th

[fluid sapphire]

the world is kind of a vibe for sure, the films are well done, if you can look past the nonsense its good fun

[mortal ginkgo]

One should not download Epic Launcher even if it provided free hot anime girls as lovers.

Saying this as a Unreal Engine user. That thing is a nightmare and will always be.

[glad quest]

they are ok

[silk ocean]

Well don't have to install UE on Epic 😉

[glad quest]

compared to 20,000 leagues under the sea tho they are rubish

[silk ocean]

Also..... REVELIO!

When?

2029 xD

[glad quest]

how do we get the christmas star that u need 500 off

z?

none....

[silk ocean]

Started burning Plutonium Rods... no turning back now... road to Ficsonium here we come

[heavy pine]

Wreath assembly is up and running. 180 machines producing 360/min.

Of course it's gonna take a while to saturate the manifolds.

[glad quest]

ive got 4 lmfao pm

[heavy pine]

Yeah, I'm thinking big this year. Shooting for at least 60/min for everything FICSMAS, including the Wonder Stars.

[glad quest]

how do i make the wonder stars

[heavy pine]

Once you unlock them, it's just Wreaths and Candy Canes into Assemblers.

[celest umbra]

guys how do i open the gift case on the ficmas?

[strong fiber]

Then you can burn ficsonium fuel rods

[glad quest]

thats over 600 trees dam

[heavy pine]

Already Saved the Day, gotta have something to do right? 😄

[silk ocean]

Yea that's the next step xD

[strong fiber]

with no waste

[surreal orbit]

Hit it with rocks idk man

[silk ocean]

Yea once burning the Plutonium Rods, kinda have to go the whole hog

[strong fiber]

then u gotta hope you didn’t do something wrong

[silk ocean]

Yup xD

[strong fiber]

Thats why im not very excited for nuclear because if one thing goes wrong the whole factory is radioactive and its a big production chain

im probably gonna do like 30 reactors for my first power plant

[silk ocean]

Nuclear is pretty involved, my plant is enormous in area now

[strong fiber]

i think im gonna build it in the spire coast

big area for nuclear

[silk ocean]

Yea I built north-west corner

[strong fiber]

im gonna need tons of power to start it though because of the particle accelerators

I only produce 13000 Mws right now

gonna need 10x that to get to nuclear

Probably gonna make a big oil plant with the diluted fuel once i get to tier 7

[glad quest]

use turbo

[hard ivy]

use rocket

[silk ocean]

The particle accelies use a lot of power yea

[mortal ginkgo]

make rocket fuel with it, you hardly need any oil

[silk ocean]

Don't sloop them 😈

[strong fiber]

yeah i will make a large rocket fuel plant in place of it just gotta belt over sulfur and coal

I can make a ton of power off one pure node

whats the burn rate of rocket fuel

[heavy pine]

I started small with my nuclear. Only using up a single Impure Uranium node.

[hard ivy]

25/6 per min

[strong fiber]

6/min?

[hard ivy]

no, 25 divided by 6 per minute

[strong fiber]

ok

[hard ivy]

4.1(6)

[strong fiber]

4.16

[hard ivy]

6 repeating

[fierce holly]

Hi everyone

[hard ivy]

4.16666666666666...

[strong fiber]

yeah

[silk ocean]

It's the support factories for nuclear dotted around the world that you don't see, including them nuclear is a huge amount of the factory

[strong fiber]

lemme see how much rocket fuel im gonna need to make for around. 150k Mws

[glad quest]

wagwan

whats crackalacking

[fierce holly]

Nothing much

It's 3:10 here in Australia

[silk ocean]

West Coast?

[strong fiber]

I gotta make 2500 rocket fuel/min

[fierce holly]

East. I'm in Victoria

[silk ocean]

Nice

[fierce holly]

😭

[strong fiber]

just gonna half that bro im not doing allat

[versed cosmos]

clock your fuel gens to burn like 10/min to make the math of how many you need to place easier

[strong fiber]

1200 seems good it can still make Alot of power

Around 80000 mws

[fierce holly]

I'm thinking about recording my next Satisfactory playthrough. I've been wanting to start a channel for a while.

[strong fiber]

I gonna do two full mk2 belts of oil

Just to make it easier

But i gotta build a train for the sulfur

And coal

The train gonna need to be big for a high enough throughput rate tho

[hard ivy]

1200 oil for 1200 RF is very expensive

what kinda trash recipes are you using

[strong fiber]

im calculator says it takes 642 crude oil/min to make 1200 rocket fuel

i want it to be 600 fuel

[hard ivy]

that's not 2 full pipes, but still expensive

[strong fiber]

what alternates do i need to add

i only added diluted fuel

[hard ivy]

I'd do this
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=28gX67NrvNgrV8SfQBFa
or this
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=oUX2FAqbSqufF5W8vs3j

[versed cosmos]

heavy oil residue

nitro rocket fuel

[strong fiber]

shii i forgot to add that

[hard ivy]

also, don't use https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production if you are

[strong fiber]

thank u for the planner

This looks alot better than what i had

[limpid cairn]

isnt it better to just say 4.2 ?

[hard ivy]

No? It's not 4.2

[limpid cairn]

well its not 4.1 either

[hard ivy]

it's 4.1(6) exactly

[limpid cairn]

but its closer to 4.2

[hard ivy]

no reason to round it in either direction

[limpid cairn]

[grizzled lotus]

huh, TIL tractors can accept stuff other than coal. even the fuel produced by refineries (though I think it needs to be packaged)

[feral geyser]

They can use alien remains

[hard ivy]

pretty sure they can use anything solid with an energy value

[feral geyser]

Idk why you'd do that, but they can

[grizzled lotus]

man, this is kind of an eye opener. this whole time I thought it only accepted coal

now I can do tractor stations from wherever there's oil, since I can turn heavy oil residue intro petroleum coke

[feral geyser]

You could do that, but diluting it to fuel and packaging it might be better

[versed cosmos]

much easier to do pet coke

[grizzled lotus]

diluting? not that far yet

[feral geyser]

Hard drive scan for the alt recipe

You can do packaged diluted fuel, which doesn't require a blender

[versed cosmos]

diluted fuel is so sunny when you think about it for a second lol

just add water and you get more fuel

[feral geyser]

Easier, but you get more oomph from fuel than from coke.

4× the runtime, and you get only slight less from diluting, so it balances in its favor

20:40 for diluting from HOR, as opposed to 20:60 pet coke

The only issue really is dedicating some plastic for containers, which 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled lotus]

I'm at the point where trying to minmax stuff will make my head explode lol trying to keep things simple

[feral geyser]

Fair

[heavy pine]

And the Wonder Star production is online. Again gonna take a while for manifolds to fill and ramp up to full production, but I should end up with 60/min.

Still have a few miscellaneous things to set up, like snowballs.

[fathom shuttle]

When’s next update

[versed cosmos]

i don't think a date has been given

[heavy pine]

And my FICSMAS facility is currently capable of consuming 23.46GW of juice.

[clear mesa]

do they sink for a lot or something?

[heavy pine]

A decent amount I think. And you need 500 of them to finish the FICSMAS research tree in the MAM.

[clear mesa]

the second part im aware of but im just letting them accumulate slowly at 2/min lol

was just wondering why youd go as far as to make 60/min lol

im at 433/500 now

[heavy pine]

Also a bit of a "because I can" 😄

[clear mesa]

yes i assumed after you mentioned they werent for sinking

[heavy pine]

Wiki says they're 6540 points per star.

[clear mesa]

ooo

[heavy pine]

So not insignificant, especially since you only need iron and copper (and lots of power) to produce them.

[clear mesa]

yeah definitely not

a nice litle bonus for sure

good to know

[heavy pine]

OIf course, if you're feeling silly you can make a bajillion gift trees and sink all those presents, free points.

[clear mesa]

that is true also yes, although i bet they've adjusted their point value to be no more than 1 though

[heavy pine]

They're only 1 point each, yeah.

[clear mesa]

yup, otherwise would be a tad bit broken

[rigid mist]

great something happened and now all my blueprints are gone

does reinstalling do that?

[clear mesa]

I believe that since the blueprint folder is seperate that it most likely does get wiped on a fresh reinstall yes

(seperate to saves)

Not sure because I've never firsthand experienced this though

[rigid mist]

damn

i had 200 hours of blueprints

[gentle lion]

Do the freight platforms and freight carts on trains have to align to work

[clear mesa]

Yes

[clear mesa]

Ouch yeah thats a real bummer ngl

[white dawn]

Prior to 1.0, all FICSMAS items were 1-point sinks, btw, even Wonder Stars

[white dawn]

Are you playing on the same computer where you created them? Save save profile too?

[rigid mist]

yes

[obtuse pine]

can anyone recommend a good way to make smart playing with about 120 iron per min? i just recently got into satisfactory and im trying to make smart playing but there is a lot of decimals involved which i dont know how to split equally or wtv

[white dawn]

Huh, odd. Blueprints are indeed saved outside of the savegame itself, and aren't backed up by Steam Cloud (and they're tied to the save slot; to move them over to a new save you've got to manually copy the files)

[green fiber]

devs talked about that once before

they didnt wanna sync blueprints with the cloud due to a number of reasons.
I think interfacing was one of them?

[fiery epoch]

hola

hi

[white dawn]

But if you're on the same comp + save slot, they should still be there, even after an uninstall + reinstall (unless you're on Linux with Proton, though - uninstalling on Linux can end up wiping your saves dirs and such)

[rigid mist]

i'm on linux

[rigid mist]

and i've been using proton

[strong fiber]

In terms of space elevator parts would i be fine not automating them and just hand feeding all of them in except if i need one for other production chain

[white dawn]

Ah, k, had you done an uninstall at some point, then?

[rigid mist]

yes

also i just threw a nuke at a basic spitter and it lived

[median rain]

You guys think using a train to transport 15 rubber and 30 plastic a minute is a bit overkill?

[tall lantern]

depends how far it's travelling

[strong fiber]

You will barely be able to make any smart plating i suggest going for 5/smart plating min

[median rain]

I'm bringing it to the west beach to the South plains biome

[tall lantern]

probably, but if the infrastructure's there, or you just like trains, sure why not

[strong fiber]

Train

Train is life

[median rain]

Cuz I do NOT want to put conveyors all the way over there

[strong fiber]

Train solve problem

[median rain]

I barely use trains for anything at the point I'm at, but I still made a track all the way from the Northwest part of the map to the crater

Cuz train is life

[strong fiber]

If you have a track blue print then it doesn’t take long especially if you let it float

[small siren]

Guys, really fast question.

Does the Epic Games version of the game experience a delay compared to the Steam version in case of an update?

[median rain]

I don't wanna put my tracks in the sky since it looks ugly

[strong fiber]

i think they all get updated at the same time on all platforms but i don’t know

[median rain]

I like it to go through the terrain, even if its slightly slower

[small siren]

ok, thx

[strong fiber]

took me 30 mins to build a track from my power plant to my base to bring me rubber and plastic im never building in terrain again

[median rain]

How far is it

[strong fiber]

From the green area to oil fields

The greenfields or wtv

[median rain]

I understand your POV, but I Don want to see floating concrete lines all across my world every time I go in a hypertube cannon

[versed cosmos]

yeah this is find especially for phase 1-3 parts

[strong fiber]

Then build blueprints and make em look more interesting and you can build a blueprint for supports if u want

[strong fiber]

What abt phase 4

[south sinew]

people usually just add supports to the print

[versed cosmos]

idk ive never beat phase 4 lol

[strong fiber]

dang

i might be cooked then bru

[south sinew]

Don't do that

[versed cosmos]

if theyre all solid inputs it would still work

[south sinew]

all the project parts you need in phase 1-3 are used in further production chains

also the later project parts are very chunky and you will not be able to handfeed them simply due to scale

[strong fiber]

What production chains

[south sinew]

of the future project parts

the P4 project parts are used in P5 parts too I think

[strong fiber]

but thats it

Can’t i just stock up on phase 3 parts

And phase 4

[south sinew]

you can calculate exactly how many you will ever need in advance and stockpile exactly that many and then remove production if you want

[strong fiber]

Thats what i did for the phase 3 parts

[south sinew]

but the numbers of them you need are not really amenable to handfeeding and also you're just wasting time sitting waiting for the stockpile to build up

[wind siren]

or simply keep making them and sink the rest after the updates

i always thought they made the best sinking items

[strong fiber]

I can do other things plus i got time

Plus i can sloop them

[south sinew]

you can sloop em if you're automating them as well

[fiery epoch]

Can someone tell me if there will be another update in the future with more content for the game?

[heavy pine]

One thing I've seen done is a blueprint that produces the exact number of items you need for each phase, with storage containers to provide the right amount of components for it.

[strong fiber]

Maybe in another play through i will automate them

[south sinew]

there will be more updates but who knows what new content will be added

[white dawn]

Yes: https://youtu.be/XGX4HqoypQg

tldr: Update v1.2 is coming first half of next year, further "minor" updates are likely to continue for awhile, and CSS have plans for the game beyond that

[fiery epoch]

Can you summarize it for me? I don't know much English.
XD

[versed cosmos]

we are getting fluid trucks

[white dawn]

@remote pasture (re: #screenshots message ) -- First of, btw, for any question which requires an image, #1038092680493801533 is far better than in #screenshots

One note: pumps are just there to provide "head lift," which is the ability for liquids to reach higher

They serve no purpose on horizontal pipes like that (or at least no useful purpose); you can get rid of basically all those pumps. (Maybe you need a pump at some point prior to delivering to the coal gens, if the coal gens are higher than the water extractors)

But regardless, as usual you've got to keep the various limitations in mind. It looks like you're trying to feed 16 coal gens out of a single mk2 pipe

[leaden arch]

Anyone else realize with aluminum beam and iron pipe alternates you can just skip steel and use all your coal for other stuff

[white dawn]

Each coal gen requires 45/min water, so for 16 of them, that's 720/min water total.

mk2 pipes can carry a maximum of 600/min fluid, though.

So if you're only feeding via a single pipe, you're 120/min short (which, yeah, is gonna mean some coal gens starving)

You can get around that with some creative piping, just like you'd have to do for an 8:3 ratio when using mk1 pipes

Although if you're at the stage of the game where you've got mk2 pipes available, you'll probably be much happier building out Fuel power instead of Coal power

Fuel scales out much more nicely than Coal

[south sinew]

yes

although I'd generally say that Aluminium is a more valuable resource than Coal so I'd just stick to using steel

especially as you can cut coal use heavily with various alts

[slow sparrow]

Guys idk if yall know about this

entering camera mode then decoupling and exiting camera mode resets your velocity. This can also save you from fall damage

[white dawn]

Yeah, coal's the third-most available resource in the game, so minimizing its usage usually isn't super important

[leaden arch]

So can a parachute lol

[white dawn]

Though of course some Tier 9 materials can use a lot. :)

[leaden arch]

Yeah and that's where I am. Thinking about maximizing diamonds and simplifying the megafactory, it just makes sense to skip steel.

[slow sparrow]

I lowk haven't been using the parachute ever since I found this out Hahahaha! Though a parachute might be a tad bit more convenient

[white dawn]

Parachute is A+; it's a shame so many people pass it by. :D

[leaden arch]

I stan the parachute, it's way better than the jetpack. I use it all early game and keep it in my inventory and swap it with the hoverpack as needed

[slow sparrow]

Oh really, then I really should invest in it. Also are ziplines any good?

[white dawn]

There's also a ton of fun Diamond alts out there; don't need to use coal for 'em

[white dawn]

Yeah, ziplines are super handy for (IMO) nearly the majority of your playthrough

My usual first Pioneer-transit system, prior to having a rail network built out

[leaden arch]

But you can hoverpack anywhere you can zipline

[white dawn]

Ziplining is faster, and hoverpack range isn't good enough for going between maximally-spaced Power Towers

[slow sparrow]

Still haven't unlocked the hoverpack though, I still use a jetpack to go around

[white dawn]

And, of course, you unlock access to ziplining long before you have access to hoverpack. :)

Hence the "nearly the majority" in my statement. :)

[leaden arch]

Parachute plus ramps plus bug(?) that lets you ascend when flying into slopes makes the parachute better than the jetpack by a mile imo

[white dawn]

I mean, they all have their optimal use cases

[remote pasture]

Atleast i can rebuild the coal power into a coal transport to base thing.

[slow sparrow]

Ohh rlly, I actually never done that ever. Well thank you, another method in my book then. Thanks!

[white dawn]

I wouldn't say that any of zipline/parachute/jetpack/hoverpack is objectively better than any of the others. There's situations where they shine, and situations where they're less ideal

Mostly I'd just say that you're missing out if you're not playing with all of 'em. :)

[leaden arch]

Also the jetpack is the only one of the three you have to restock all the time and feels impotent until at least turbofuel so I just skip it

[fiery epoch]

@white dawn Can you give me a summary of the video and what's coming up?

[remote pasture]

@white dawn which i will do when i get acsses to drones

[leaden arch]

Also if you just pop a hypertube cannon (about ten entrances boost launched at 45 degrees to hit the vertical damage plane) you can go up in the sky and just chill in your parachute for a LONG time to survey the map

[visual cosmos]

Talking about hypertube canons, you can also aim 45 degree up at the end and fly across the map, while keeping your momentum and height with a jetpack

Really convenient to go to far away bases

[novel fog]

So does anyone have an issue with water fluxing back and forth with your nuclear generators? Ive placed double the amount of pumps needed, do they just burn through so much where I need to give each nuclear generators its own water supply?

Or is it because I’m using a mk1 water sucker thing?

[sinful pasture]

Sup, guys!

[green fiber]

theres no mk 2 water extractor

and nukes use 240/min water by default

it IS preferable to have a single pipe supply per nuke

[leaden turret]

-# packager extracts water from bottles

[sinful pasture]

Trying to figure out how to organize my goals. Not really experienced in the game yet lol

[wind siren]

thats ok, it doesnt get any easier even after years of playing 😄

[sinful pasture]

Just feeling ADD af cause now I just deconstructed my power to make a neater power depot but I gotta figure out how I wanna do it.

[strong fiber]

What do i need coupons for because i dont see anything i could use with them

I dont want the golden nut

[glacial kestrel]

Anyone know why my fluid could be stuck at the beginning of the array? I am producing 600 heavy oil residue but a lot is stuck at the opposite side of where the fluid is leaving

[strong fiber]

Try to use a pump

[vague burrow]

Use the coupons to get parts early. I always use them to get a sizeable amount of Smokeless Powder, and then research the rifle and ammo. Then I sloop the assembler to make a metric ton of rifle ammo. This is really nice because it can be done rather early. You just need to find some plastic at a crash site.

[strong fiber]

maybe its sloshing

[glacial kestrel]

How far would you suggest to put that? It's a 20 pipe array

[strong fiber]

All the pipes combine into 1 mk2 right

[glacial kestrel]

Yes

[knotty ledge]

valves can be useful to prevent backflow if thats what your seeing

[strong fiber]

Put it where they combine

[strong fiber]

Forgot about those things

[glacial kestrel]

Would you put this between every new line?

[strong fiber]

valve is probably better for backflow

[knotty ledge]

i usually use a higher elevation tank that feeds the line. and a valve on both sides of the tank

beyond that it usually works itself out

[glacial kestrel]

I'm not entirely sure I follow

[knotty ledge]

a buffer tank of fluid. gravity pulls it from the tank into the line so its slightly raiseda few meters.
and a valve on both the input and output of the tank

pumps put it into the tank from wherever the source is.

[glacial kestrel]

That makes sense. I will try cooking something up

[knotty ledge]

if the source is lower... you wouldnt want your tank to empty itself on the backflow if there was a problem.

thus the one on the input as well

[plain gate]

yeah but no one does that... thats a lot of big footprint to place, normally just 2:1

[green fiber]

people who overclock their nukes dont have much of a choice

600/min

[knotty ledge]

1 pipe: 1 nuke is for overclockers ya

[vague burrow]

I will sometimes create a loop of pipes. That will work for me, depending upon the setup.

[plain gate]

no its 2 per

[knotty ledge]

doesnt lose efficciency when used on a power generator... and consumes a full pipe worth

[green fiber]

its 5 per 250% nuke
2 is only for a 100% nuke

[knotty ledge]

referring to number of nukes per pipe apologies if not clear

[plain gate]

? extractors make 300/

[green fiber]

but anyway, no matter what you do with 250% nukes...
there is currently a bug in the game where the pipes lag behind and 250% nukes WILL stall out occasionally

[plain gate]

100% pump is kinda stupid

[green fiber]

only at 250% overclock

[knotty ledge]

2 pumps per pipe, 1 pipe per nuke.. if everything is overclocked.

really though.. fill the pipe based on whatever % you have. it tells you what your making... you need 600 for a pipe

[green fiber]

also: when i say "single pipe supply per nuke" that doesnt mean one extractor or one pipeline per nuke

it just means you dont share the pipe for this nuke with other nukes

each nuke gets its own extractors. no sharing

[knotty ledge]

^ this

[unkempt blade]

sharing is caring 🙁

[green fiber]

sharing is treachery

simple is better and not sharing is simpler

[unkempt blade]

maybe they could just share a pipe that's been raised higher than headlift so it's just there for vibes and not a functional reason

[knotty ledge]

you can* though if you dont want to overclock... not really an advantage to avoiding it at the reactor.

you could avoid it on the water pumps though if you dont mind a ton of pumps for the same pipes

theres a QoL advantage to getting all your pipes from less rows of pumps though

[unkempt blade]

more pipes is more awesome though

[charred thistle]

floob jr. jr. gave me a pocket nuke-

[strong fiber]

Gotta make a ton of aluminum stuff

For everything in phase 4

[glacial kestrel]

When you put a conveyor throughput and see 380 instead of 400

🙁

[opaque garden]

When i played this game pre 1.0 there were a lot of bugs with multiplayer such as belts not working properly and having to be replaced... - have these issues now been fixed or am i wasting my time trying again? cheers

[strong fiber]

I unlocked the hoverpack

[leaden arch]

One good practice is never delete anything until you have its replacement built or at least blueprinted. Also blueprint EVERYTHING

[unkempt blade]

the game is perfect except for the absence of mk2 factory carts

[leaden arch]

It's a golf cart for you and your buddies

[leaden turret]

only blueprint that which is tedious to regularly build

[unkempt blade]

what's golf?

[leaden turret]

where rich people wander about manicured fields and play with their balls

[leaden arch]

Sorry, I mean an outdoor even terrain sporting transport vehicle

[unkempt blade]

oh you mean soccer?

[leaden turret]

no, that's the one where overpaid people wander about manicured fields and play with their balls

[dry carbon]

whats the input for the alien power augmentor

is it somersloops?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch apm

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=apm

[dry carbon]

oh

[mortal tree]

Is pillar good in the game?

[urban token]

I am using no energy and alternative recipes advanced settings, I will be executed?

[white dawn]

I already did, right after posting the video link. :)

[white dawn]

Like, the decorative architectural item? Like all other decorative elements, they have no bearing on your actual factory functionality

But if you want to use them for aesthetics, then go for it

[white dawn]

It's your game, who would care? So long as you're having fun, you're doing it right. :)

[urban token]

I can't find good biome

for start\

I start my 3 aptemt

I last time reached second half of tier 2

[cyan prism]

Which have you tried?
They all have upsides and downsides

[white dawn]

All the starting areas are good, and all will eventually require you to start expanding out

Rocky Desert is often considered the meta for new-player starts. Not plentiful nodes than Grass Fields, relatively easy mobs, lots of flat building area

I'm personally quite fond of Grass Fields as a start; the less-dense node placements don't bother me and IMO sets you up well for starting to expand

[cyan prism]

Yeah, I like the area near the coast
There's a big grouping of iron nodes, a few crash sites, and coal right next to the beach for easy power
So it's easy to get to the point where things are automated enough to explore
(also the cave with SAM and quartz is very close)

[mortal tree]

whats the first important thing to buy in awsome shop?

[cyan prism]

coffee cup 100%

(for serious, though, ladders are a game-changer for exploring)

[jolly flax]

Why do i constantly procrastinate now that I need to start building the factories
(Im tier 3)

[grizzled lotus]

ladders, concrete foundations because you can then build foundations using concrete instead of iron plates, catwalks/stairways if you want to build vertical factories which can be helpful

[grizzled lotus]

tbh it can get overwhelming or stressful. I recommend focusing on one material at a time

[versed cosmos]

the elevator if youre building vertical helps you move power between floors too

[grizzled lotus]

the thing I noticed that can get easier is to try to automate every new material you get. saves you time and effort down the road

[glacial kestrel]

I've posted the pictures in #1038092680493801533 , would you have a moment to look?

[fading whale]

@edgy trail Consider it a badge of honor. Your first blown fuse is an access requirement to join the CkC. Cool Kids Club 🙂
#design-and-architecture message

[silk ocean]

Two trains managed to collide in a path intersection

[fading whale]

And you had path signals?

[silk ocean]

Yeah that intersection has been operating for over 1000 hours

Suddenly I get a notification of a collision xD

[fading whale]

Nice. Task failed successfully 😂

[silk ocean]

xD

[edgy trail]

[zealous urchin]

tuca tuca tuca tuca

hello chat

what are we automating today

what is the design vision

[silk ocean]

More Ficsite Trigons for nuclear xD

[zealous urchin]

forgor u need that shhhhhh for Fixonium

[silk ocean]

Yar

[fading whale]

Making nice power lines for my soon-to-be rocket fuel plant.

[zealous urchin]

gonna be worth it

[grizzled lotus]

can I edit the markers for the docking stations? want to shrink their radius

[jolly flax]

Uranium power plants

[zealous urchin]

that moment when u realize there are 4 different ways of making plutonium fuel rod

and imo turns out that the simplest one is the best one

[charred thistle]

100 biofuel reactors >:3

[sly heart]

I may have been overambitous with my smart plates, versitile framework, and automated wiring factory

I think I doubled my power requirements

time to make more coal power

[rare mantle]

fixit

[grizzled lotus]

can I kill the big sky manta?

man, the bullest I wasted

[fading whale]

You can ride it though.

[grizzled lotus]

I have. I was shot out of a hypertube cannon and accidentally landed on it, which was kind of surprising. And I pet it!

[fading whale]

Way back I found out by chance too.
Had built "something" up high. Was working there. Just happen to be in the flight path. All of a sudden I just started moving away from my spot.

[ivory condor]

I think they should have gave the manta some kind of reaction when you pet it, as a funny little easter egg

[wicked nacelle]

There’s a cheevie

[ivory condor]

cheevie?

[wicked nacelle]

Achievement

[ivory condor]

oh that I forgot about that

[grizzled lotus]

I found an alt recipe where I can make packaged fuel out of packaged water and heavy oil residue. I think this is one of the really good ones

[dense violet]

it's one of the alt recipes to maximise oil products from oil, yes

[wicked nacelle]

There’s another one later that does it in fewer machines but the ratios are the same.

Make sure you’re looking for the other alt that maximizes HOR per oil

[lilac bear]

@sly heart That's just a player collapsing, right? #satisfactory-memes message

[sly heart]

Using photo mode yeah they just found it funny that those poses were next to each other

I've never rly posted anything here other than normal messages so I didn't know where to put it

[grizzled lotus]

I finally finished building a far off motor factory so I can eventually set up something for modular engine. my head feels full

[nocturne orbit]

is there crossplay with steam and PS?

very very very VERY sad

[ivory condor]

its understandable but might still happen at some point, just isnt a thing atm

[glass pagoda]

Hello

If any one is reading this how are you?

[cursive crane]

clips channel just released the vod of their answer to this,
tldr would require a bunch of work and changing the backend that they arent up to at this time.

[strong fiber]

I dont even got aluminum factory started yet

[neat galleon]

im having an issue with trains. for some reason, my train gets on an endless cycle of repeated docking at my loading station when on auto drive. it unloads just fine. but gets stuck on the load cycle. if have manually driven the line multiple times, everything is connected and powered. im at a loss

[sinful pasture]

Was gonna try using this satisfactory planner but it won't let me choose which level tech I'm at, it's going straight to mk 3 D:

[jolly flax]

The emperor has deemed you unworthy of your service and has decided to turn you into a servitor

[grizzled lotus]

I'm okay. how are you?

[buoyant token]

Hi is the cybertruck when you sink a coupon is real ?

[broken quarry]

is the key to save space or to have formality?

[jolly flax]

Yes

[dense violet]

formality? you mean... organised?

[broken quarry]

I guess? I mean more like everything in a perfect snap

[dense violet]

use foudnations , plan things out, use multiple floors. 3d game after all

[charred thistle]

Not again :c
Tell the adeptus mechanicus to at least inject me with coffee

[broken quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1449886226898358403/image.png?ex=69408746&is=693f35c6&hm=310eca7975cd0dd68cd1ccbc544487556c65e7e724bcb18ceeb18e0a32771826&

thats my factory

Im tier 1 sooo not to far in

[normal dagger]

why does my console open when i try to use the 6th shortcut slot i have azerty keyboard so 6 is §

but i can't see a keybind i can rebind to not open the console

[jolly flax]

Sure

I will make my factory as acurate as I can to a forge world

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-warhammer-tech-priest-gif-14919800332216808310

[jolly flax]

Looks good

[charred thistle]

:D

[oblique hound]

how do people finish the game in 40 hours...

[hard ivy]

speedrunners finish even faster

[oblique hound]

i know 😭

i have over 2000 and still havent gotten to nuclear power :(

[normal dagger]

bruh how, i'm at almost 8 hours and i don't even have coal power yet

[normal dagger]

anyone who knows?

[white dawn]

That's not uncommon, btw. I'd say you're still well within the bell curve with that timing. :)

[oblique hound]

well technically everything is within a bell curve...

[dim flint]

Finally pulling the trigger on a 60GW ionized fuel plant to sink extra power shards into.

I probably could have designed my singularity cell factory differently... but I can always rework the fuel to rocket fuel later if I want.

[charred thistle]

I'm at 62 hours :C

[dim flint]

What are you building now?

[charred thistle]

the mam is pulling a schizo moment im trying to get the alien power augmenter but i haven't unlocked computers, rn im still phase 2 improving my power grid with batteries

[dim flint]

Oh nice. I put off making a proper electronics factory for way too long.

[charred thistle]

building 100 power storages for the funny

[charred thistle]

i don't have an electronics factory im using basic stuff

[dim flint]

You should make a decent circuits setup when you invest in some fuel power.

[limpid orchid]

I just got the Geothermic Energy Thing and it's my opinion ass. But I also wanna get others Opinions. What would you rate it from 1/10?

[dim flint]

I rushed power and completely neglected plastic/rubber and regretted it and had to rebuild a lot of things due to space.

[dim flint]

It's basically just free power that makes you think a bit about batteries when you might not have been yet. But yea, it's minimal power.

[charred thistle]

oh I'm sticking with biofuel until i see a better form of power, coal iisn't it for me and deforestation is fun

[dim flint]

That's insane! I like to afk in my factory way too much to go around collecting power grass.

Coal power was a game changer for me.

[limpid orchid]

Yeah, when I build them I thought about battery's but I got like 15 Biomass Generators if the power should increase to abnormal. Do these count as Batteries?

[dim flint]

The only reason geo needs batteries is because they vary in power over time. So you need batteries to cover when they are low.

[charred thistle]

i have 2 storage containters full of solid biofuel so it'll be aight for a few days if i leave my pc on

[limpid orchid]

Can I solve the ups and downs with the Geo when I use batteries? I really don't want to see that in my stats.

[dim flint]

I mean, if it makes you happy. But that seems crazy to me. I get satisfaction from knowing my factory is self sufficient.

[dim flint]

I mean the stats will show them going up and down, but if the down phase crosses below your usage, then the batteries can take over.

So with a few batteries, you can assume the geo is the same as the average output, instead of it's min.

[limpid orchid]

For that I Use way to much energy.

I mean I make to much

[dim flint]

I feel like you're misunderstanding me.

[limpid orchid]

I make to much energy

Yeah, I think kinda

[dim flint]

All I'm saying is that batteries give you the ability to treat your power production as the average instead of the min, because instead of tripping a breaker when it drops too low, it will take from the batteries.

Geo is the best example of variable power.

[limpid orchid]

For what should you go AFK in the Factory? My Factory runs by itself. The only thing that happens when I go AFK that my machine 1 turn off bc the Upload is full or it get into tickets.

[charred thistle]

my factory is called the Ball Crushing Factory it's an entire meme at this point

[dim flint]

.<

[limpid orchid]

There is not really a reason to go AFK or am I too early in game?

I mean im at the End of Phase 3 and I could upgrade to Phase 4 whenever I want put i build rn more machine to Upload more things and upgrade in the MaM

[dim flint]

sometimes going afk while your limited production builds up what you need to build the next big thing is a good idea. Even manually building you can press space and go afk.

Also going afk for a while to let belts/buffers fill up and test your system is stable is a smart idea.

Sometimes at first it looks good, but then a later stage kicks in and staves an earlier phase.

[limpid orchid]

If you are Limited. There is always a way to make it more Efficient

[limpid orchid]

Yeah but these are only short terme. I don't really go A F K for that. I don't leave my PC

[dim flint]

Not if you're currently too lazy to build more manufacturers and just need a handful of turbo motors to build Mk.3 extractors.

Or afk in modeler and plan new sections of your build.

[limpid orchid]

MK3 EXTRACTOR? I didn't know there where were MK on extractor. Only on the ... that that pulls iron, copper all that stuff out. I forgot the name

[dim flint]

Wait, what do you think extractors are?

[limpid orchid]

That pull fluids out of the ground

[dim flint]

Oh yea I'm mixed up

I mean Miner Mk.3

[limpid orchid]

Am I little behind?🥹

Okay

[dim flint]

No higher level extractor.

I just call them all extraction so I misspoke.

[limpid orchid]

But is it Smart to build Mashines on Phase 3 to unlock more in thr mam and then upgrade to phase 4?

[dim flint]

I feel like building expandable setups while you're upgrading miners is a good idea, but automate everything and unlock as much as you can in the MAM as possible.

[limpid orchid]

Like thr next machine i will build will be Automated AI Limiter. And I also think of doing the Sam thingy. The last thing is it Automatic but idk if that's smart

[dim flint]

I honestly wish I put all my space elevator builds in a separate area and moved them with trucks/trains.

[feral jay]

I just hand bomb the project parts into the elevator

[dim flint]

And I still don't use SAM as much as I should.

[dim flint]

That's also an option.

[limpid orchid]

But you use it for Upload right? Like I almost have all Upload expansions and these help SOOO mich

[dim flint]

Dimensional upload?

[limpid orchid]

I think there is no other Uploads in the game

So yeah

[dim flint]

Yea. That's smart. In general upgrading the depot is great, both rate and stacks.

I basically build everything from there alone unless I know I'm building a big thing which will run out.

[limpid orchid]

Yeah, I almost got everything but firstly I need thr Mercers Spheres to upload things again before I Upgrade. But I think and hope not will slowly run out imof spots where I can find Mercers Spheres.

[limpid orchid]

I can upload like 4 Stacks of everything. So I never had that

Or there i AFK for a Short terme

[dim flint]

Get turbo ammo and a decent rocket pack (like rocker fuel) and go hunting in the north.

[dim flint]

100 fuel power plants in a Mk.3 blueprint will suck that dry pretty quick.

Or like 50 converters.

[limpid orchid]

Rn I still got normal Fuel as Rocket Power but I upload these too so I have infinity

[dim flint]

I enjoy mercer sphere hunting.

[limpid orchid]

I just got Today or yesterday MK2 Blueprints but I literlly never use Blueprints

[dim flint]

And power slug... but I have unlimited power shards now.

[dim flint]

Yea... I didn't use them enough early on.

[limpid orchid]

In the Christmas thing was 20 Overclock thingys. That was cool

[dim flint]

But if you get a little practice they are faster even for temporary custom prints.

[limpid orchid]

The only Blueprint I got is for Train railway. And this is MK1 blueprint

[dim flint]

I just built my interim singularity setup, which produces about 80 power shards / min.

Now I need to convert them to ionized fuel and make my new PP. About 66GW.

[soft marsh]

Think now that I have drones I might start doing the modular outposts again 🤔

[dim flint]

If only they could make multi hop routes.

I just deleted basically my whole drone network.

[limpid orchid]

Produces power shards?

[dim flint]

Yep!

[limpid orchid]

I run around and find these Creatures

[dim flint]

T9 part

[limpid orchid]

Oh. Im on T6

[dim flint]

Yea.

[limpid orchid]

But I think I saw something of it in the MaM

[soft marsh]

I've been using it for out of the way resources that running a train to would be a pain for

[dim flint]

The north area has sooooo many slugs.

[soft marsh]

I hate dealing with trains

[limpid orchid]

The Desert?

[dim flint]

Same. But I recently consolidated my factory so I didn't need them.

[ivory condor]

But trains are awesome

[limpid orchid]

I LOVR TRAINS. I look at theme and look at the Block Lights when trains go there and you hear the Click and you see them Drive through and it runs so perfectly I LOVE IT

[dim flint]

"spire coast"

[soft marsh]

Ive been doing a semi consolidation but its getting a bit too crazy now lol

I cant stand trains lol theyre such a pain in the ass to make.

[limpid orchid]

What is consolidation?

[dim flint]

Just west of the desert on in the shroom area. INSANE slugs.

[limpid orchid]

Are these Download thingy with Mercers Spheres?

[limpid orchid]

Never been there

[soft marsh]

Putting the base in one location instead of spread out throughout the map

[dim flint]

I stole a blueprint which helps me a lot. It has a guide blueprint for laying out the next pillar.

[dim flint]

Highly recommend.

[soft marsh]

for me its less of the pillars and more the circuit

pretty much all my trains are point to point

[limpid orchid]

I like having Mashines on Diffrent areas and then I can connect them with Train stations and have Names on the Map what machines there is.

[dim flint]

I still use trains for a lot of material shipping, but my main couple factories are in like 3 places at the moment.

[soft marsh]

I thinka bout 90% of my factory is in one location now. I have a bunch of trains and drones going to and from

[dim flint]

I built one factory for like 30 items into the depot. Basically everything before T9.

[soft marsh]

Im working on completing P4 rn

[limpid orchid]

I got like 2 Main Factory but I really got 1 Main but I kinda Left it and go the to second one more but this is Spreading more and More into little more Diffrent parts

[limpid orchid]

I would loose where I am then

Bc it's then a whole city you got

[soft marsh]

Yeah it gets pretty wild and theres been a few times where instead of pulling a part off the line it was just easier to make that part again

I moved away from modules for awhile because Id spend more time making them than using them but recently Ive starting moving back to modules again

[limpid orchid]

Im thinking of Uploading Screws but idk if I should. I got a Storage if I need it and I really don't need it as often. But I needed it like once in 2 Months now. Maybe I should or not.

[soft marsh]

I have one dimensional depot for every item

[ivory condor]

as a general rule i put everything into the depots

there is basically no reason not to store anything you can make into it, it has no downsides

[limpid orchid]

Okay, then I will do it prob

[ivory condor]

i would recommend it, there isnt any reason against it

[limpid orchid]

Yeah I thought about limitations of how many Mercers Spheres there are on the map

[ivory condor]

there is still alot of spheres, enough to make many many depots with

[white dawn]

Yeah, build as many Depots as you want. There's about 300 total on the map, you need about 100 for all upgrades, which leaves you with around 200 total Depots you can build

So long as you're willing to explore for the spheres, there's effectively unlimited

[ivory condor]

there is infact so many spheres you can really spam them almost as much as you want everywhere

[dim flint]

I don't store ore and stuff like thst

[limpid orchid]

I already did use surely a 100

[white dawn]

(I acknowledge that the process of collecting, say, 200 spheres, is a not-insignificant task which will take you some time, but in the end there's no reason to be stingy with Depots)

[limpid orchid]

Or my calculations are wrong

I just saw i think in the MaM a recipe to build Hard Drives. I will literlly love this. I love to get Get more Recipes and Options

Or it was scanning i think

One or the other

[raw dust]

how do i turn off gifts #design-and-architecture

[white dawn]

No need to post in two places, btw. (This channel would be technically more appropriate, but still. If you've asked over there, no need to crosspost in here)

[limpid orchid]

Why turning it off? 😭

[raw dust]

i just wanted asap help soz

[limpid orchid]

It gives you gifts and Presents and all cute things

[hollow hedge]

Next FICSMAS, what happens for saves where we already completed the MAM tree? Do we keep everything unlocked, or do we have to start all over again? If progress is preserved, then are the FICSMAS Day X cartridges just scrap on those calendar days, or is the game smart enough to give out a random other reward besides unique rewards already given in past years?

[raw dust]

it fills my inventory, it sucks for me

[limpid orchid]

No need to pick it up

[raw dust]

even the beam is annyoing

[limpid orchid]

WHAT

[raw dust]

xD

[limpid orchid]

But it's cute...

[hollow hedge]

if you really hate it then you can turn FICSMAS off in settings

[raw dust]

is this like the first christmas event ever?

[hollow hedge]

otherwise make > 10 gift trees and they stop spawning

[limpid orchid]

Presents that come from the Air is super cute

[raw dust]

how do i do that, i dont even have research stuff researched yet

[feral jay]

I do love how Coffee Stain trolls the Christmas haters in-game with ADA dialogue

[limpid orchid]

I LOVE ALL ADA DIALOGUE I even stop my Music when she speaks. But I don't really like thr Mercers Spheres dialogue. There fr kinda scary

[hollow hedge]

You have to research them in the MAM tree. It is unlocked after the 2nd one down and is on the right side

[raw dust]

oh right, alr ty bro idk how ill do it but ill get it done

[hollow hedge]

the research costs are just a few gifts. You already have enough probably

[raw dust]

im lazy to automate it

[hollow hedge]

you can unlock the FICSMAS Day cartridges by interacting with the calendar in the HUB next to the HUB terminal

you have to find the number for each day of December hidden in the picture and click it to unlock the cartridges

[white dawn]

Heh, no, been around for quite a few years now

[hollow hedge]

I think it's 1 and 4 you need for the tree

[raw dust]

i unlocked like all the numbers, i couldnt help myself so yeah

i want it all unlocked but i cant D:

im the same way with chocolate calenders, i just eat them all

[glacial mountain]

hey i'm like, pretty new-ish to satisfactory but i don't understand how people mass produce something specific if you can only place a single miner on a source.. Could someone explain real quick so I don't have to feel stupid anymore?

[raw dust]

you unlock better equipment like mk2 mk3 over time, more items more production

[glacial mountain]

yeah but is that it? like i've seen huge factories moving at insane speeds on youtube and stuff and i don't get how it's so compact

[raw dust]

im not sure my self but i guess you just have to progress and find out naturally, thats what im doing

[glacial mountain]

alright then, thank you anyway

[unkempt blade]

the compact builds are built by fools who aren't using nearly enough space-consuming vehicles

[ivory condor]

Don't worry we'll never stop mewing even if baine finds us

[zealous urchin]

mewing streak

[hollow hedge]

1. You can pull in resources from across multiple nodes and merge them together into one belt once you unlock higher tier belts that can fit multiple miners
2. There is a way to get the miners to output even more (try researching the slugs if you haven't already)
3. Later you will unlock various sorts of vehicles which can transport resources. For instance, I can mine 8 different nodes (or more) in the desert and then transport them to my factory in a different biome, and this cleans up the transport rather than having 8+ belts all coming in
4. You can use tricks to hide belts/pipes under the ground or go through mountains

[ivory condor]

Everyone knows mews are the best

[raw dust]

jeez thats lots of info to take in XD

[glacial mountain]

i see, thank you

[ivory condor]

@unborn gyro I see you show yourself

[zealous urchin]

Elsewyr desert sand burns the hottest

[dense violet]

for almost the entire way through the tiers your miners will be belt limited - it's generally not a good idea to merge nodes
even with hte highest tier belt you could merge 2 normal nodes together but about it

[ivory condor]

But I didnt ping the mods to find you, not yet anyways

[zealous urchin]

chat, turbo ammo or homing ammo?

[ivory condor]

Anyways I need to go find my delta flyers

[hollow hedge]

nobelisk

[hard ivy]

Cluster or nuke nobelisks

[unkempt blade]

however, you SHOULD merge 2 into a truck station and then move them with factory carts and then unmerge at the destination

[ivory condor]

nukes of course

[dense violet]

only factory carts though

[zealous urchin]

cluster

[hollow hedge]

WAIT

[zealous urchin]

boom boom boom boom boom

[hollow hedge]

can factory carts actually move items over short distances?

[dense violet]

over long distances too

[hollow hedge]

oh my god

[ivory condor]

somebody should make a factory cart only play through, for the only logistics that are allowed

[unkempt blade]

they can move them over long distances too you just need more carts 😄

[zealous urchin]

seriously tho

turbo or homing ammo

[hollow hedge]

my alien protein factory can be a lot cooler

[compact flicker]

Apperently lizard doggos are stronger than the small spitters

[ivory condor]

Can you imagine seeing how many factory carts you would see everywhere, that would pretty cool

[white dawn]

¿Por qué no los dos?

[unkempt blade]

is the best weapon

[ivory condor]

and when anybody asks how many factory carts there are, you just say you lost count after a few thousand factory carts

[zealous urchin]

im wondering which should i go first

[white dawn]

Your framerate would probably remember. :D

[unkempt blade]

if you ever ask "do I have too many factory carts" the answer is no you need more computer

[hollow hedge]

what is mewing

[white dawn]

As nearly always in this game, "should" is in the eye of the beholder. Do whatever feels most useful to you! And then do the other one just in case! :)

Anecdotally, I suspect there are more folks who prefer Homing than there are folks who prefer Turbo, but that doesn't mean you'll feel the same way

[ivory condor]

mew =

anyways never stop mewing

[hollow hedge]

so is it a furry thing

when people do it on discord

[unkempt blade]

Turbo can be nice if you just flutter it. Holding it down makes it too inaccurate

[ivory condor]

yes if i have been doing furry references all along and nobody caught on

actually its pokemon jokes but who can say

[feral jay]

Turbo is the best for killing beans

But that makes me sad

[hollow hedge]

that one had a family you know

[zealous urchin]

mewing streak broken? aura loss?!

[unkempt blade]

as it should you psychopath!

[zealous urchin]

well i will get both eventualy but that high speed connectocor requirement rn is just 💀

[cunning pulsar]

if I have a quick short question about resources, should I post it here or in one of the thread channels?

[hollow hedge]

You don't necessarily have to make a lot of them. You can underclock the machine and then end up only needing a tiny bit of copper/caterium and plastic or silica. Even though the volume isn't that high, you can stockpile them over time in a container and never run out of ammo

[zealous urchin]

its just the pain of making HSC at all

[compact flicker]

Someone call me?

[hollow hedge]

go back to your cage

[zealous urchin]

aura gain

[compact flicker]

😭

:3

[wanton zealot]

hey yall, im new here, im just looking for some feedback on something. I have just unlocked phase 4 and i basically took a substantial break because my factory is just pain. honest feedback, is there a point where its just not worth it to continue and i should reset. or should i pick myself up by my bootstraps and solve this thing

i sent a picture in design and architecture just to illuminate what im working with here

[plush dawn]

can someone link me to the "where is all my copper ingots" meme

[compact flicker]

The world grid is your friend

When I first got to phase 5 I restarted for the same reason, but tearing everything down and building new is just as good a choice, or you could build elsewhere so you still have the production from your old factory and you keep all of your mobility items.

I restarted, but the other 2 choices are just as valid too.

[zealous urchin]

u can wipe all map but not restart

just stock items u want to keep

imo better to destroy 50 objects per one click than start anew
especialy when u got that far

[wanton zealot]

Yeah what ive done for now is gotten the item teleporter mod and just teleported all the items over but thats starting to not feel great. I think i am going to just rebuild in the desert

[compact flicker]

Whatever works best for you :3

[dim flint]

I have beed demoing like all my starter factories. It feels both really good and really sad.

I'm trying to decide what parts to leave as a memorial.

Like the original high power lines I used to get from my first to second base over a hundred times is staying, even if it's not optimal.

[south idol]

unless youve used the majority of the resources on the map, you can always just move to a new area and build there

[ivory condor]

you'll feel better in the long term, from not having the mental stress of looing at the mess

demoing starting factories is thankfully only short term pain for long term relief

because trying to deal with the beginning spaghetti, sometimes you just have to demo it all and rebuild for sanity sakes

[dim flint]

It was't horrible spagetti. It's more just a bunch of wasted power now.

The bigger thing are my 20 random power grids I need to go find and delete

My goal is to have each factory on it's own breaker switch, but everything connected to two main grids. 1 is the primary power and supply, and 2 is the extended and advanced supply.

[zealous urchin]

automated belts mk6
obelisks
cluster obs
ammo
turbo ammo

[neon basalt]

Where the hell can I find sam?

[compact flicker]

Its usually in caves

Sometimes on the surface, but mostly in caves

Closed loop recycling is so hard -w-

[strong fiber]

I gotta make an aluminum factory

What alternates should i get

[dim flint]

Scan for it, no?

[strong fiber]

To make the most aluminum

[strong fiber]

He probably cant

You gotta learn it to scan it

[dim flint]

I forget when you unlock that

[compact flicker]

Sloppy alumina and pure scrap

[strong fiber]

Thank you

[compact flicker]

Need to research it in the mam to unlock the scan

[dim flint]

Yea. I rushed a lot of the MAM pretty early.

[strong fiber]

im probably gonna collect a ton of bauxite to make a ton of aluminum cause you need it for alot of tier 4 items correct?

[compact flicker]

I need to supply 2,400 packed water to my 16 refineries per min

My best belt is 480 😭

[glass pagoda]

Surly automating heavy frames won't be hard

[strong fiber]

5 belts

[strong fiber]

Get heavy incased frame and ur life is much easier

[compact flicker]

Ik

The issue is 16 isn't divisible by 5 and I'm blanking on how to math that lol

[glass pagoda]

Oh hey I have that

[dim flint]

Iron pipe and iron wire feels so wrong but is so good.

[strong fiber]

It replaces screws with concrete which is a life saver

[strong fiber]

Underclock or over clock maybe

[compact flicker]

Iron pipe, encased pipes, and heavy encased frames let you make heavy frames with just iron and limestone

[strong fiber]

I built next to coal nodes so i didn’t use iron pipe

[compact flicker]

All 16 are at 250 :p

I cant fit more where I'm at either :p

I'll figure it out

[neon basalt]

Yea I can't yet. Just need the initial bit and then I can for it.

[strong fiber]

Could try to get to 20

[compact flicker]

I am as cramed in as I can be >w<

[zealous urchin]

instant scrap

and tbf it depends

[strong fiber]

fuh u mean

[zealous urchin]

pure alu ingot imo is a must
pet coke scrap is what i go to
sloppy alumina imo is optional but better

[dim flint]

Yea, check caves if you don't want to cheat.

[hasty stump]

caves = opportunities to meet spiders, win win situation

[compact flicker]

The answer was 8 belts

[neon basalt]

Couldn't cheat if I wanted to. On console

[compact flicker]

There are cheat settings

[dim flint]

I mean, it's the same map on console

[lunar python]

How do people get 1TW without nuclear?

[zealous urchin]

spam RF

[hasty stump]

with biomass, of course: see #satisfactory message

[lunar python]

Im 150 in running at 192% for 72,000 MW 😭

[zealous urchin]

okay

i mean SPAM

but like why would u

[lunar python]

Obviously cause i need to power 1000 particle accelerators 🙄

[zealous urchin]

i think u need to check ur math since its still not enough

and what i meant is that why torture urself with fuel gens

[grim carbon]

i just went to have a look at the SCIM

why does it assume that you already have a maxed out miner?

I don't

I can't see how you can change it

[stoic steeple]

Use Satisfactory Tools instead. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[compact flicker]

Question for PC players, when fine tuning overclock %, how many decimals can you edit?

[lunar python]

I believe it takes up to 4 decimals

Any inaccuracies are negligible at that point

[compact flicker]

Jealous of yall
We can only do 2

[feral jay]

4 decimals, after that it rounds off

[compact flicker]

Not a single number that is a factor of 600 is able to be entered on a standard recipe turbofuel refinery

[lunar python]

Accidentally puttjng the clock speed on the target rate box

[grim carbon]

thanks for the suggestion. took a look around, don't understand it like i do the wiki

[charred thistle]

phase 2 complete :D

[charred thistle]

I have been summoned

[normal dagger]

Eeey I'm 10 hours in. Finally have a 8 coal gen power plant running and have screws, plates and tubes automated in a decent factory.... Planning on redoing copper, reinforced plates and rotors tommorow. But then I look at YouTube and I am like tf how even. Some factories look insane...

Also I have a alternative recipe for screws. Iron ingots directly to screws is there any reason to use it now that I have a factory running anyway +

[willow pond]

i keep waiting to run across the special present. nothing yet

[feral jay]

It's a totally normal present

[wicked nacelle]

you're going to likely make a LOT more screws -- and screws from a central location don't work well because you saturate your belts really quickly

with cast screws you can easily just belt in ingots and make screws right by the machines that use them

[feral jay]

Screw screws

And quickwire

[willow pond]

oh right, how silly of me

[wicked nacelle]

neither is a problem if you make it where you use it

[ivory condor]

using trains to move screws around sounds like such a terrible terrible idea

[limpid cairn]

Can’t you do math to get more decimal numbers in the input field?

[normal dagger]

Wait I have to do more iron work???

I thought I'd finally move to steel...

[placid comet]

Were node placements changed? Oil nodes in the area I'm in aren't lining up with the interactive map

[compact flicker]

We cant manually edit those >:

I could try editing the 7 digit number with a joystick, but that doesn't sound that fun

[normal dagger]

So my iron factory with 4 smelters and 5 constructors won't be enough?

[feral jay]

Oh my sweet summer child...

[ivory condor]

just remember you barely have a starting factory

[normal dagger]

Well atleast I have enough power for awhile...

[ivory condor]

4 smelters and 5 constructors is basically nothing

[normal dagger]

No more messing about collecting wood and leaves

600MW of sweet power

[uneven path]

The game is large, and your factory's needs will scale as you go through the phases

[uneven path]

That should comfortably get you through Phase 2

[feral jay]

You will eventually be making millions of screws

[normal dagger]

😮

[compact flicker]

Ehhhh

[placid comet]

Hold strong. There will be a constant progression in what you need to make, as well as what you have available to you. The bioreactors are a temporary thing

[normal dagger]

Why can I not use my nitro emoji's 🙁

[zealous urchin]

watch me 500% quarter of that and make endgame items with it

[normal dagger]

Yea fuck those

Glad I'm done with those

Wish walking around wouldn't take 3 years.

I walked around more then I actually spend building my generators

[placid comet]

Though on that note, don't dismantle your coal generators once you unlock the next big thing. You will need a back up, just in case

[normal dagger]

I mean it's a build and forget setup so I don't plan on doing anything with it. Takes exactly one coal node

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Qw2Rxd6meBfQ402KnLFj want make over 2million screws

[placid comet]

Especially when you realize generators need power just to get going. The coal generators can be used as a jumpstart

[normal dagger]

Empty for me

[ivory condor]

actually this production line breaks the calculator @reef basin sorry I break your calculator again, sorry in advance

[normal dagger]

I kinda want switches so I can turn of parts of a factory. I think there is a mod for that right?

[ivory condor]

well it was only a matter of time before i broke the calculator once more somehow, and i guess this production line is giving the calculator I bad day for some reason

[placid comet]

It's a legit unlockable later on

[normal dagger]

Oh neat

[ivory condor]

it add a new production tab, look for a screw icon tab

[normal dagger]

So I can make a control room?

[feral jay]

Nope, it's somethign the game is really lacking

[placid comet]

I haven't used it yet, so I'm not sure of the specifics on how it works

[ivory condor]

so strange though this production line is breaking the calculator for some reason hmmm

[feral jay]

The closest we get to a control room is the priority power switch screen

[ivory condor]

very strange indeed

[placid comet]

Does the line have more than the belts can hold?

[normal dagger]

So modded it is

[ivory condor]

the calculator doesnt care about logistics, so that cant be it

something else internally is screwing up the solver for some reason it looks like

you can tell because the max is 2084030 but if you put in that value for items/min you want to produce to try to find the most efficient production path for that value, it just breaks and it cant find any result now for some reason, idk whats going on to be honest

[normal dagger]

I'm half debating on adding the alternative recipes mod. Cus much nicer to play. But I'd have to do the math myself. While now I can use a calculator / planner or follow a YouTube setup

[zealous urchin]

u can also set up lights control room but i dont envision any1 doing it and messing wit hcables that much

[zealous urchin]

are u an aspiring min maxer?

[normal dagger]

You'd need some sort of data cable for that

[normal dagger]

A what?

Oh getting exactly all the ratios right?

Nah fuck that. As long as no big bottle necks I'm more then happy

Surplus anyday

[leaden turret]

SCIM has mod support

[lunar garnet]

Hey folks, quick question, coming back to the game having not played since mid 2023 and it says that my save file was modded, but I never used mods. Any ideas what's up and if that will cause problems?

I know that a lot has changed, and maybe it's better off to start a fresh run, but I'd hate to throw away a couple hundred hours of work if I don't have to.

[blazing kiln]

Uhhhh I'm getting a weird issue when trying to connect two conveyor floor holes together. https://imgur.com/DvFxUpo

Are these actually connected? Playing on a dedicated server FWIW

[limpid cairn]

Will you do a x1k run here too? 🤔

[leaden turret]

reminder that imgur is blocked in the uk and we have #1038092680493801533 + #screenshots for image sharing

[queen quiver]

Do elevators have power passthrough? Like if it's powered on the ground floor, can I extend off of my 2nd floor to provide a power conduit?

[tiny sigil]

yes

[blazing kiln]

Thank you!

[lunar garnet]

That is going soooo slowly. I was watching some content, then Dosh popped up playing Satisfactory and I felt like firing it up. Big changes!

[queen quiver]

Perfect, thank you!

[glass pagoda]

hello how is everyone

[compact flicker]

Am good

Workin on a turbofuel power plant

You?

[glass pagoda]

just trying to get the motivation to set up my train station and all the factorys it needs to stop by to set up the space elevator parts as well as waiting for my ordaments to produce so i can upgrade to the final ficsmas tier

[compact flicker]

Trains are cool

[glass pagoda]

agreed

[compact flicker]

I didn't expect to need like 70 refineries for 900 oil/min

[glass pagoda]

true. where are you building your turbo fual factory

[compact flicker]

SE crater

[glass pagoda]

i perfer building in gold coast as even though blue crater is a lot better Im planning to use it to exploit it greatly via making rocket fual

[compact flicker]

Im gonna turn this into a rocket fuel plant in the future.

[glass pagoda]

where is your base

[compact flicker]

Plains

[glass pagoda]

my base is near gold coast as well as a catirum node and 4 pure iron as well as 2 pure copper with 1 pure limestone all in about 1000m of each other. it also overlooks great canyons and if you go back you have accsess to the northern forest. if you cant tell i spent days looking for the perfict spot

[dim flint]

How do y'all connect floors power without making holes? wall outlets on the outside?

[compact flicker]

I had a lot goin on on the gold coast on my last save

[glass pagoda]

you dont, even though it seems messy if you put one wire through the wall then you can build the rest inside

[glass pagoda]

you can also make a room designated to power poles just make it small

[teal geyser]

True

[dim flint]

I just mean, connecting up through floors.

IDK how to do it nicely.

[glass pagoda]

sorry i ment the spire coast

[leaden turret]

power cable can go straight down through the ceiling to a ceiling-mounted power connector, doesn't look weird if you connect it to a power pole first

[dim flint]

hmmmmmm, wires through the floor sounds like a fire hazard.

[glass pagoda]

find your own playstyle and try fiddiling around with designs in god mode and seeing what you like that you can afford

[dim flint]

I need conduits.

[glass pagoda]

also ask sign post marv about the world grid. he loves it

[leaden turret]

I generally run power up the side of a staggered building via power poles through a hole in the floor on the exterior (protected by railings so I don't go splat), then run a cable up a floor, down a floor, and to a wall connector to the inside of the building for the current floor

[leaden turret]

[glass pagoda]

tell us how much you love the world grid

acctuly nvm

i dont want you pulling up

anywayyyyyyyyyyyy

what area on the map do you guys visit the least

[silk ocean]

Someone pinged me overnight but good old Discord - how to find it? xD

[zealous urchin]

Dune Desert's coast

[white dawn]

search for mentions: Zatie -- on desktop that should automatically select the appropriate filters and such as you type. If on mobile you might have to do an extra tap to select the proper filter

[silk ocean]

Perfect thanks xD

That works

[white dawn]

Note that if whatever message pinged you got deleted afterwards then Discord won't show it to you, so it's not impossible to get a Mystery Ping™. On other servers with less good bots you can sometimes get that when spammers make their way in (I don't think I've ever seen that happen here, at least to my account)

[silk ocean]

It can't load the message that the reply was to but I think that's just Discord being Discord

It feels a bit like a mystery ping yea XD

lol

Not so much of a problem when Discord is open @zealous urchin xD

[zealous urchin]

idk what u mean bro

[gritty zealot]

whos up factorising

[feral jay]

FICSMAS®™izing

[gritty zealot]

amen

[silk ocean]

I saw it 😛

[zealous urchin]

saw what?

[silk ocean]

Stealth ping xD

[zealous urchin]

stealth what now

u must be trippin man

[silk ocean]

You wrote @silk ocean and then it disappeared real quick XD