satisfactory

[south sinew]

the main purpose of the bus is the extensible and flexible architecture, it's a design goal

[bitter dirge]

😭 what can i do if im stuck do i just have to die

[barren arch]

how am I supposed to get accurate calculations

[sullen gull]

Says Greyhound on the side? 🤣

[reef basin]

wdym?

[hard ivy]

no, it only works with floats

[glad quest]

build ladder sup

[barren arch]

i mean something like 325/3

[glad quest]

ramp up build storage boxes up

[barren arch]

around 108.33

[reef basin]

well, since in most cases you can't get that production ingame anyway, there's not really much point in this

[glad quest]

yh u can do that

[median geyser]

You have now defined a bus, at different times, as:

"A way for items to reach consumers"... thats moving items. #satisfactory message

"The thing that teleports from A to B"... thats moving items #satisfactory message

"The place items go after production and move along to the point at which they will be used"... that's moving items
#satisfactory message

"A place to put things and take them from later"... thats storing items, so now we are contradicting ourselves... #satisfactory message

"A centralized place to take things from and put things into"... that's storing again, actually. So we've 3/2 for moving items... #satisfactory message

"a centralised point to take ingredients from and put products onto"... here we have storing again, thats 3/3 ladies and gentlemen. But more importantly, in this example, you specifically discredit moving items with many belts as not being a bus, so now we have more layers of self contradiction... #satisfactory message

"...is for logistical distribution within a factory"... buddy I hate to break it to you, but that's moving items. I don't care if it's in a box, in house, by a car, by a mouse, I don't care if you're moving green eggs and ham, that's moving items. 4/3. #satisfactory message

and finally, because I can't be fucked scrolling back any further than this on a Saturday morning before my coffee, we have, what I think, is the closest we have come to a definition of a bus. #satisfactory message

[barren arch]

no you can, you can type fractions in game

[glad quest]

apart from that one heavy modular frame recipe that mnakes 2.18 frames pm

[merry granite]

I'm not sure, maybe your right, and I don't care enough to find out, that's that for me

[limpid hazel]

you can type them, but it doesn't work with them internally. it uses floats.

[reef basin]

and they get rounded, and clock speed is limited to 4 decimals

[hard ivy]

it makes 2.8125. which is exactly 45/16

[limpid hazel]

using real fractions would be way too slow, they have to use hw accelerated floating point

[reef basin]

I was talking about repeating decimals, not about finite ones

[glad quest]

yeah bumass licking recipe

[vague creek]

Better to not try with a website lol

[sullen gull]

Satisfactory Modeler handles fractions very well fyi

[median geyser]

So, after reviewing this entire debate, it seems most of it was redundant and the closest we ever came to defining a bus was "something central", as vague as that is 😂

[bitter dirge]

noo i fell 😭 ty though

[glad quest]

put keep inv on lol

[hard ivy]

my favourite from the entire game

[glad quest]

u must be the type person to scratch ur bum then sniff it

[bitter dirge]

wait i had keep equipment on but it deosnt keep equipment??

[novel heath]

quick question if i transport plutonium waste through drones will the drones be radioactive?

[wise junco]

yes

[glad quest]

it gives u a xenoszapper

[bitter dirge]

i dont get that either .. well.. i do but not in my inv

[median geyser]

How does radioactivity work in satisfactory anyway?

[reef basin]

and yet the definition that I talk about is still the same, I'm just replying to different points of yours.

again, I'm not saying busses aren't belts.

busses are quite literally belts. Built in a specific pattern. My point is that not all belts are busses

[ocean frost]

It's a building style like interdependency

[limpid hazel]

It kills you

[median geyser]

Obviously. And it comes off uranium and related byproducts. But how does it spread, how long does something stay irradiated, etc?

[wicked nacelle]

or you have a suit and it burns through suit consumables instead of damaging you

[glad quest]

u die

[merry granite]

the information i just got from chatgpt matches greeny for what its worth lmao

[ocean frost]

What was that

[wicked nacelle]

instantaneous only except for the nuke nobelisk which is just a few seconds

[reef basin]

doesn't spread, doesn't stay irradiated. It's calculated instantly every tick

[median geyser]

Ah cool cool

[glad quest]

like a 15 to 20m area that does damage to u

[south sinew]

nothing

[hard ivy]

the wiki has all the info you want

[sullen gull]

So long as radiation is in the machine, it's always irradiated. For the drones, it just has a small radius. For nuke spolsions, it sticks around for about 30 seconds or so.

[median geyser]

Why do you even bother bro, im gonna ask here for simple one-off curiosities like that 😂

[glad quest]

i only ask here for dumbass questions like should i use ionizing fuel to power 250 gens (their answer no (i did it anyway))

[dense violet]

then no point asking right?

[wise junco]

biomass burners until you save the day

[ocean frost]

We need lead walls that block radiation

[glad quest]

nah i learnt that choice is given to us by God so i can do what i want (without sinning)

[hard ivy]

just automate filters

[glad quest]

bro beta male just spam nuts

[reef basin]

well the answer then is:

• there's no "radius"
• there's no "spread"
• there's no "distance" 🙂

to calculate how much a given X/Y/Z place is radioactive, you calculate radiation intensity from every single radiation source on the map. The formula for this is a function of distance and falls of quickly. Then you sum all the intensities and if it's above 0.2, you get damaged, capped at 45 intensity (anything more damages you the same way as if it was 45)

[ocean frost]

I don't like wearing masks I have a medical condition

[median geyser]

Or... I automate filters and skip the math 😂 But I do appreciate the detailed explanation, and will likely reference it sometime in the near future when I get myself killed playing with spicy rocks

[reef basin]

that would be very computationally intense, almost not really possible. Maybe containers that shield radiation for items that are inside, but then again the radiation is a game mechanic, so I wouldn't want it removed

[reef basin]

I assumed you're asking about how it works, not how to bypass it 🤔

in most cases you can do a quick calculation for a "radius" around the place where you have things, but in the long run it's possible it won't be accurate. Generally just shove radioactive things at map edge (on top of the ocean, nuclear plants want water anyway) and don't go super near without the filters and hazmat suit and you're good

[median geyser]

Wait why do people unequip the haz suit?

[ocean frost]

It's more so the filters

[limpid hazel]

some people never got out of update 5

building a dangling plutonium waste vault in the big hole to hell in the middle of the map

[hard ivy]

i have literally never done that since they gave it its own slot

[white dawn]

Heh, as fedora rawhide hinted at, in earlier versions of the game you only had one "equipment" slot, and might have needed to swap out for other equipment. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now

[glad quest]

i do that still

[merry granite]

everyone seems to love that coffee cup

im at phase 4 and havent bothered buying it

[limpid hazel]

building infinite filters is trivial next to the nuclear production chain and you can just pull them out of the ether so idk why anyone cares anymore

filling a plutonium waste train and getting hit with radiation 1km away as it travels to the storage site is based

[sullen gull]

It's only one coupon!! How else can one expect to sit back and admire all their hard works?! 😏

[leaden turret]

don't think too much about what the brown liquid was in the cup before the toilet was added

[merry granite]

I just hold onto my trusty xenorod

[open swallow]

draw a line from the player to all radiation sources within 10m, then check for lead along that line

ez

[reef basin]

that's a very expensive check

[cyan leaf]

Is the coke steel recipe worth it?

[reef basin]

if you like it, it's worth

[open swallow]

blocks of lead can be a certain minimum size, just check every multiple of that

[wicked nacelle]

nah. the game already has lots of similar bounding boxes

[cyan leaf]

😭 idk if its better or worse then the base recipe tho

[reef basin]

it's neither. No recipe is "better" or "worse". It's always situational, depending on your preferences

[glad quest]

anyone else want them to add alloys

@satisfactorydevteam add alloys plz

[reef basin]

(also, recipes often change in what they can do when combined with other recipes, so it's not even about a single recipe being useful for something)

[hard ivy]

we already have steel

[wicked nacelle]

so much of the terrain of this game seems to exist only to punish people for trying to use vehicles

[open swallow]

[several people are typing]

[glad quest]

addd more

[unkempt blade]

except for cast screws which is the best recipe

[glad quest]

this is why we sky bridge

i want bronze

[cyan leaf]

Ohh is the alt recipe for plastic better then the original?

[wicked nacelle]

with trains it's no big deal. but with vehicles it's brutal

[leaden turret]

why you want 3rd place, dream bigger

[reef basin]

same answer as above, depends on your preferences

[glad quest]

oh yh SILVER ADD SILVER NOT SURE WHAT FOR BUT ADD IT PLZ

[wicked nacelle]

HOR -> diluted fuel -> recycled rubber/plastic is DRASTICALLY more oil efficient. And that's the only measure that really matters for plastic/rubber

[glad quest]

yh

[merry granite]

I dont like how alot of areas have such harsh differences in height, it makes it impossible to build big factories in those areas without being blocked by a big phallic rock going towards the sky, as well as being problematic for logistics

[white dawn]

Drake Expressing Dislike: Sky Bridge
Drake Giving Approval: Sick jumps off of the terrain

[leaden turret]

🏖️ 🏜️🌲🏜️🏖️

[glad quest]

this is why i find the highest point and build about 20m higher

[cyan leaf]

So recycled plastic and rubber i should be taking?

[leaden turret]

who needs drake, when we have Mikael #satisfactory-memes message

[white dawn]

Once you decide to use those kinds of situations as features for your factory, they become a lot more fun to work with

[wicked nacelle]

You build it like a cock ring 🙂 obviously 🙂

[unkempt blade]

yes unless cast screws is available then you should take that instead

[leaden turret]

#rules re: nsfw

[abstract heron]

Ewww

Hi Marv

[leaden turret]

just because there's ringless ones in the game doesn't mean we get to talk about ringed ones in the discord

[reef basin]

if you want more complex production, which makes more plubber from oil, then yes

[abstract heron]

Hiya greeny

[abstract heron]

As I say be nice in the discord

[white dawn]

Ah, right, I'm not actually very up on Satisfactory memes.

[glad quest]

omg they should add an cave system that i can actually build more than 5 assemblers in

[leaden turret]

scroll down from template, watch people get progressively annoyed 😛

[cyan leaf]

Is rubber and plastic used a lot after pahse 3?

[glad quest]

yes

[leaden turret]

I mean there is, but

[sullen gull]

Crystal/SAM cave in the rockey desert...

[unkempt blade]

there's a big one in the giant hole over the void in the middle of the map

[glad quest]

yeah noooo

[reef basin]

practically everything is used later. But generally you build the factories for "later" later, so it's not a problem for now

[leaden turret]

ooh, I have a terrible idea

[merry granite]

For me, i guess im a bit of a weird case, I dont want my factory to look bad but I dont want to spent 1 million years on aesthetics; at my aluminum factory I have to get a train down a massive cliff and I dont want to bother building 1 billion supports for it

[glad quest]

lowk i just make ts float

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[merry granite]

fair

[unkempt blade]

make a "hover support" blueprint with some pretty blue signs on bright mode imo

[merry granite]

thats a cool idea

got a picture?

[unkempt blade]

nope it just jumped out of my brain and into discord seconds ago

I'm just here to meme about factory carts and cast screws + stream of thought straight into chat

[sullen gull]

Use "infinite lifts"

[merry granite]

If satisfactory could have a new map, it would be cool to have a massive cave system, hollow knight esque. vertical constraints to restrict the player to enable creativity

[reef basin]

devs said new map is not happening 😉

[sullen gull]

I think they called that "Deep Rock Galactic" 🤣

[merry granite]

its just a cool idea

[glad quest]

oh wow

ts is well noice

[glad quest]

or add a moon we can mine and send shit down

[novel heath]

if they do i hope they redesign the particle accelerator

[glad quest]

i wanna taste moon rocks

[sullen gull]

I want a right and left variant 🤣

[glad quest]

we need more WIIIIIDE buildings less tall

[merry granite]

speak for yourself, i need more tall buildings

[glad quest]

refineries are about erm 203200000000000 km tall

[unkempt blade]

do they still make pop rock oreos? those were basically moon rocks

[glad quest]

dunno not american

[ocean frost]

I load my radiation into a truck and drive it into the void

[reef basin]

and both truck and radiation stay there, eating your fps and irradiating your world

[ocean frost]

Out of sight out of sight out of mind

[glad quest]

thats why u give it to the lizzard doggos then execute them

[sullen gull]

Only 31m ... #math-and-meta message (1200/1200 rubber/platsic)

[merry granite]

I havent gotten to power plants yet but do you's actually do that to get rid of nuclear waste

[wheat parcel]

@glad quest 🙏

[merry granite]

isnt that the whole challenge of nuclear power in the game

to have waste

[sullen gull]

Make plut rods and sink or use as drone fuel, or go all the way to ficsonim

[ocean frost]

You turn it into plutonium and sink it

[unkempt blade]

gotta ficsonium it just because you can

[merry granite]

you cant just sink the nuclear waste? or is it liquid?

[hard ivy]

You can get rid of waste permanently in several different ways

[glad quest]

yes

[hard ivy]

Neither

[merry granite]

ah okay, ill find out when i get there

[ocean frost]

Unsinkable

[merry granite]

soonish

[ocean frost]

Just like the Titanic

[glad quest]

yo

[merry granite]

@glad quest I laughed so hard seeing that hahaha

okay i see now

[unkempt blade]

I'm going to sing "My Heart Will Go On" to my factory carts for the rest of the night because of you

[limpid hazel]

my semi minmax whole map factory is storing plutonium waste bc reprocessing it would use too much sam ore

[glad quest]

0 nuclear waste (780 ore pm) not worth AT ALL

[limpid hazel]

i'm already planning on using >9000 with slooped constructors

[glad quest]

yh to make 780 uranium into nuclear fuel rods needs like 10,000 SAM ORE

[unkempt blade]

over 9000? that's unheard of!

[sullen gull]

Hax!

[merry granite]

well hopefully ill do this sulfur stuff, do nuclear power, and then beat the game pretty quick, i want to restart soon just so I can do a cleaner factory from the start

i havent gotten to the last phase yet so im sure it doesnt take too long :)

[unkempt blade]

I believe in you. Break the cycle of spaghetti abuse

[glad quest]

its exponential i sweart

[limpid hazel]

What's the point of doing it cleaner from the start if the production you get from the start is insufficient for the endgame anyway

[wicked nacelle]

if you shortcut the earlier phases then it absolutely is -- and I always shortcut the early stuff

[limpid hazel]

you may as well just nuke everything at tier 5

[glad quest]

like starts off rlly quick 2 hours u got coal and steel automated then u hit a fucking wall

[glad quest]

same

[unkempt blade]

personal satisfaction and/or bragging rights

[merry granite]

you get coal and steel automated in 2 hours? that took me like atleast 30 hours dawg

on my like 6th playthrough aswell where i never got to steel before*

[glad quest]

yeah lol

[wicked nacelle]

if you spend/waste time early game to fully automate each of the space elevator parts I bet the game is somewhat linear. but that doesn't mean it's faster. Just means it's more consistent

[glad quest]

i may have slightly more hours than you lol

[unkempt blade]

phase 1 goes a little quicker once you know how stuff works and you make a line straight for coal

[merry granite]

yeah okay

[shell lava]

Guys, I have played satisfactory a long time in the last weeks

[glad quest]

bro i handcraft till assemblers get them then do space lift

[mental raft]

can I run satisfactory smoothly in my computer with 64GB DDR4 RAM, Intel Core i5 14th Generation, ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 and a 6000mb/s 1TB SSD?

[merry granite]

I have 200, my current save is 100 and my last saves only ever got to coal I didnt progress much till now

[glad quest]

yes

[unkempt blade]

better get a 5090 from a black friday sale just to be safe

[glad quest]

and a 8tb nvme ssd with water cooling

[mental raft]

are you being serious

[glad quest]

no

[mental raft]

I have 600 hours

[mental raft]

okay

[leaden turret]

terrible idea made #satisfactory-memes message

[unkempt blade]

I'm a very serious person

[glad quest]

clearly need a 6090 xt overclocked water cooled

[limpid hazel]

if you want >60fps on 1440p+ with lumen

[merry granite]

i have a 3070ti that i underclock to 200mw and it runs it goodish i think on proton

[shell lava]

Bro wtf is that

[merry granite]

i think i get 150 on a fresh save or something like that

[leaden turret]

memetemplateception

[glad quest]

yh i have almost 800

[unkempt blade]

I have no idea what's going on but I love it

[leaden turret]

meme on which meme template to use

[sullen gull]

136 in this save. My longest save so far though is 2001 hrs 😛

Oh, wait, no, 2212 hrs

[merry granite]

how odo you even spend 2200 hours in a save

[leaden turret]

have you seen how much math is involved in the game?

[limpid hazel]

you can spend an arbitrary amount of time on aesthetics

[merry granite]

do you just rebuild the entire games progression again and again til it looks nice

[leaden turret]

also, 🧓 back in my day we couldn't zoop 👴

[limpid hazel]

i'm projecting my whole map project to end before the 1000 hour mark

but no aesthetics

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture message

[leaden turret]

minimalism/spaghett/brutalism are aesthetics

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[merry granite]

idek what blocks those are but looks lovely

[limpid hazel]

minimalist and brutalist in the sense that everything is an uncovered concrete platform with the decency to touch the ground in some way

[leaden turret]

modded is cheating

[limpid hazel]

someday I want to play other games

[unkempt blade]

I'm more of a rainbowcore kind of architect

[wicked nacelle]

I want a mk2 awesome sink that has 2 belt inputs

[sullen gull]

Andd by doing stuff like this : #design-and-architecture message

[merry granite]

I'd love to see it tinker, however im installing a game on steam and discord videos do not load :(

[glad quest]

I LOVE BREAKCORE RAHHHHH WTF IS SLOWDRUMMING I NEED TO BE OVERSTIMULATED AT ALL TIMES

[unkempt blade]

calm down and focus on this instead! #screenshots message

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/author/e9ca569a-c182-44d9-9ea5-4aeb01b4ca8c/

[unkempt blade]

jeez those are some fantastic uses of lights

[merry granite]

do you people have favourite phases of the game?

[unkempt blade]

the very second I unlock the hoverpack

[white dawn]

I've found I actually really love the early game after having finished a full thorough playthrough

[merry granite]

really? I unlocked it a bit ago and haven't used it yet over the jetpack, it seems kinda clunky but maybe i should give it a proper go

[white dawn]

So nice to just be able to kind of autopilot and not have complex problems to solve. :D

"Hey-oo, let's make some steel pipes. bam."

[wicked nacelle]

I've found I want to THINK that I loved the early game when instead it's just pure pain without being able to hover

[unkempt blade]

it's like the moment decorative building starts feeling noticeably smoother

[wicked nacelle]

but then I play it and it's awful

[unkempt blade]

before the hoverpack I have to use watch towers or ramps I build or whatever else if I want to do any sort of bigger decorative build then suddenly I can just hover

[glad quest]

2

[wicked nacelle]

if there were a new game plus mode where you get to keep your hoverpack then maybe I'd like early game again

[merry granite]

that sounds like what modding is for, so you can play the game the way you enjoy

[hard ivy]

3. I love oil and HMFs. And the jetpack. Can't forget the jetpack. I like it more than the hoverpack, at least in vanilla

[wicked nacelle]

I just enjoy redoing the early game stuff I rushed through once I get a hoverpack 🙂

[glad quest]

massive fan off smelters lol

and after phase 3 u dont tend to rlly use them anymore

[leaden turret]

looks at AGS

[mental raft]

dude you hate the hover pack evil person

[merry granite]

For me, I spent alot of time in the early game with designing a nice factory, except I KEEP changing my design and logistical philosophy so my factories keep getting outdated and need to be rebuilt with my current design methods

[hard ivy]

Twitter moment

[mental raft]

X*

[glad quest]

Twitter **

[unkempt blade]

ehh I get thinking the hoverpack is kind of meh if you're thinking about it mostly as an exploration tool like the jetpack but it shines as a building tool

[mental raft]

It’s officially named X.

[merry granite]

Ill make sure to actually properly try it next time im on then, thanks

[glad quest]

dont care its twitter elon is a poopy head

[wicked nacelle]

it's awesome as an exploration tool too

[leaden turret]

[obi-wan voice] retched hive of scum and villainy***

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no, that was a twitter moment. That is one too tbh

[wicked nacelle]

sustained climb rate of the hoverpack is amazing

[mental raft]

X moment*

[glad quest]

i want a mk2 hoverpack

[wicked nacelle]

if twitter.com still gets you there then it's twitter

[glad quest]

that has a battery

[unkempt blade]

I agree but I also get "clunky" like he said as a fair descriptor. Dragging power poles around and worrying about range from a power source is a different feeling than the jetpack

[merry granite]

actually i remember now that one of the reasons on first glance I dont*like the hoverpack is the power requirement, as when i build factories i typically build the power LAST

[glad quest]

same

[wicked nacelle]

dragging power poles with you is actually great because then when you build out somewhere you've explroed you already have power. or rail. or both

you can always swap to jetpack for a moment if it's beneficial of course

[glad quest]

anyone else a sigma like myself and just run?

[mental raft]

bro I’m so mad at this chat they just refuse to call things by their actual official name no matter what like X is a good name

[wicked nacelle]

but man fighting stuff on a hoverpack is cheating

[wicked nacelle]

twitter is better.

[hard ivy]

I modded mine to have 2x higher stats and it's actually good now. Maybe even too good, especially the speed. But idc, I have dealt with it enough in the past, I can't be bothered to deal with its inadequacies any more

[mental raft]

They’re the same thing.

[merry granite]

who cares

[leaden turret]

reminder that dunking on elon musk is #off-topic-general unless it's about the cyber wagon

[wicked nacelle]

then why did you bring it up?

[leaden turret]

also, if you find yourself XKCD-386ing, take a break

[mental raft]

Because you’re calling it the wrong name.

[glad quest]

x makes it sound like a porno sitew

[wicked nacelle]

it's twitter. You just said it's the same thing.

[hard ivy]

I mean that's exclusively what I use it for

[glad quest]

repent my guy lusting over women isnt worth it

[merry granite]

Who says they're lusting over women? this is offtopic btw, marv is about to jump in

[wicked nacelle]

I just found this crazy hidden cave thing.... and it had a blue slug in it 😭

[unkempt blade]

yeah people need to channel all their lust towards factory carts the way ADA intends for us to behave

[glad quest]

ppl who make slugs into powa shards r cruel

[reef basin]

they like to do that 🤷

[wicked nacelle]

I always stop when I get automated. I collect them and then docorate with the slugs 🙂

[dense violet]

fuel generator 🙂 first time it took 250~ hours

could replicate it much faster now though

[glad quest]

bro i get fuel by like 25 hours

[mental raft]

Efficiency first.

[hard ivy]

I won't stop until every single slug on the map is a power shard in my shard container

[dense violet]

oh sure, but this is fancy circle fuel 😛

[unkempt blade]

sorry 15+ years of effective branding worked I guess

[hard ivy]

Maybe they shouldn't've changed the name then

[glad quest]

i have over 350 tho

[mental raft]

X is a good name wdym

[glad quest]

no its NOT

ur legit tripping

[limpid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-capping-lying-liar-yeah-gif-24723670

[mental raft]

what’s not to like about it

[mental raft]

no gif perms?

[glad quest]

its a letter not a name

[limpid inlet]

its funnier without them

[glad quest]

like it tels u NOTHING about the company at all

[mental raft]

are you disrespecting X musk?

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> spray bottle needed for the xkcd-386ing

[glad quest]

yes

[wicked nacelle]

Off. Topic.

[mental raft]

oh true sorry

[unkempt blade]

switching back to satisfactory though I think the cyberwagon is going to be a really great vehicle once they work the bugs out

[limpid inlet]

For someone who isnt good at optimizations or planning, how often will I end up reworking my factory

[glad quest]

i dont

i just cope

[leaden turret]

what bugs? working as intended.

[dense violet]

never if you want, build new ones

[unkempt blade]

only turning left is a really iconic driving strategy just like Zoolander

[unkempt blade]

I threw a beryl nut at it and every single window shattered 🙁

[leaden turret]

it doesn't turn to the left, seems the steering is pretty far to the right it seems

[hard ivy]

Never, once you realise that "my factory" is not a good approach. Build multiple, all over the map. Once it's done and doing its job, you can never touch it again, and it'll continue doing its job just fine

[unkempt blade]

depends if you let some quirks bother you or just keep plowing ahead 😄

[limpid inlet]

That sounds kinda rough but I suppose that can work

[primal obsidian]

MASSAGE-3(A-B)b when?

[mortal ginkgo]

tomorrow

[primal obsidian]

no way

[worldly pelican]

[dense violet]

each time you'll get better 🙂 it's pretty much just practice and planning 🙂

[pliant prawn]

That joke is like an ogre, or an onion. It has layers

[stone python]

i dont see any layers, seems pretty on the nose

[pliant prawn]

Didn't say it wasn't accurate lol

[sonic verge]

im about to give up with pipes/coal generators.

[wicked nacelle]

you really have to figure it out because it gets harder later not easier

[pliant prawn]

No! You can do it! What're you running into?

[wicked nacelle]

what's the problem? find the one that's not staying on interact with it and see if it's out of water or out of coal - it's always one or the other

[sonic verge]

first 2 setups I made worked. now im using mk2 pipes and I have 10 water extractors for 12 generators. and no matter how I route the pipes, I get nothing in the middle of the line. makes 0 sense

[steel kelp]

This is rly true. I struggled a lot w fluids when i started, but i kept making them to learn, now theyre extremely easy

[pliant prawn]

Ohhhh. Water hammer effect. Gotta be.

[steel kelp]

This shouldnt be the case, you can power 16 gens with 6 water extractors

Your pipes probably arent full, which is causing sloshing

[pliant prawn]

Mk2. It's always the damn transition to mk2

[cyan leaf]

Whay is heavy oil used for?

[sonic verge]

yeah I know. i have 2 of those setups.

[wicked nacelle]

for 12 you only need 5 extractors and a single mk2 pipe can carry the whole thing - no fancy multi-injection needed. Sounds like you have a mk1 section still in the pipe somewhere

[sonic verge]

I know. I kept making them because I have no water in the middle 3. 3 hours messing with this. extremely frustrating.

[wicked nacelle]

are you on pc?

[sonic verge]

xbox

[wicked nacelle]

so you probably can't stream it anywhere easily?

[steel kelp]

On discord he can

Super easy to do

[sonic verge]

yeah I can on twitch.

[wicked nacelle]

if you know how to stream then we can do a screen share and I can help you out. I'm sure it's something simple -- but it's only simple when you know what to look for and how to track it backwards

[wicked nacelle]

I'll DM you

[pliant prawn]

When you say middle three, are they sharing a pipe network? Like do the group A and Group B sections have a common pipe or more?

Go go gadget Xaxxon tech support lol. Good on you lad

[cyan leaf]

Fff should I start making plastic first or rubber?

[wicked nacelle]

you'll want to make both but early on plastic is like 80/20 more used -- maybe more maybe 95/5

late game it's 50/50

[cyan leaf]

Alr alr and can I run both plastic and rubber off from 1 pure oil node to start or do i need to do 1 node each

[steel kelp]

Yea you can

[wicked nacelle]

You can absolutely split it

I would suggest you do then take another dedicated node just for fuel production

[steel kelp]

Does anyone have any cool blender bps? I need to make 30 and i wanna maximise space rather than just building rows of 10

[pliant prawn]

Ye, both. Easy to do 50/50 just to get started. I do recommend taking some time to get the Alt recipes around Heavy oil residue. Really good starter builds down that path

[cyan leaf]

Yeah I was already thinking about having another node just purely for fuel

[steel kelp]

More than enough crude to do this dont stress

[wicked nacelle]

and you'll get a bit of bonus plastic or rubber out of the resin from the fuel refineries

[pliant prawn]

What biome are you going to do oil in to start? Mind, you'll probably end up with two or three depending

[cyan leaf]

Im on the rocky desert one

[pliant prawn]

Okay cool, so like the North Coast? Top of the map? If your up for a walk, the West Coast is also a great spot to do starter oil

[bitter dirge]

Does the assmebly care if screws go in one input and rods in the same one?

[pliant prawn]

It will take both, but you MUST GUARANTEE it gets exactly the right ratio, or it could jam

[cyan leaf]

Yeah im using that one but im being hella cautious to not make it to big lol or overlapping with ither nodes

[median geyser]

😭 I think it's finally time to say goodbye to my old coal gene farm. You will be missed

[cyan leaf]

But my god its so annoying to get anything oil related from this machine 😭 i keep getting alt for all the early game stuff and rotors but no oil production stuff other then the 1 plastic alt i g9t

[quasi locust]

anyone playing rn?

[cyan leaf]

Nah broo keep it as ur backupp

[pliant prawn]

Didn't forget you can leave drives unpicked in the library to prevent them from showing up on your next roll.

[median geyser]

Its in the way of me expanding my oil field to make rocket fuel powered fuel genes. I still have a tiny one over at a lake near my starter area, but my main one must go.

Its also only my main coal generator line. It produces roughly 3GW out of like 35GW total

[bitter dirge]

like i cant do
1 screw 1 rod 1 screw
it needs to be exact ratio?

[cyan leaf]

Ohh shii nvmm

[pliant prawn]

If the recipe is exactly 1:1, then yeah I guess you could. But still running the risk of breaking down the line. If the belt ever tries to give it a rod, but that part is already at full, it'll stop and not give it the next screw. Just much safer to keep it separate

[buoyant heath]

So I'm already planning on it, but I'm going to guess the only way to meet mid and endgame crafting demands is to big or go home?

[wicked nacelle]

if one fills up while the other is starved it can never get the one it's starved for

[bitter dirge]

welp

[pliant prawn]

Not necessarily. In theory you could beat the whole game with one machine for each item, and only one of each node. It's definitely more crazy fun to go big though. Kind of a "why not" situation

[bitter dirge]

my conveyer belts gonna look like a mess 😭

[merry granite]

Is there a way to stop on a dime with the hoverpack?

[buoyant heath]

Fair enough! Mega modular factories here I come!

[pliant prawn]

Sadly no, I wish. But if it helps how do you have your sprint setting?

[merry granite]

Oh, you can sprint with these? dang!

If that tells you enough lol

thats alot faster

[merry granite]

I gotta be honest, you were totally right, hoverpack is amazing

[pliant prawn]

Yeah, 😂 In settings you can change sprint from holding the button to a toggle on or off. Once you're used to fast hover, slowing down tends to help lol. But I wish there was a hard brake feature.

[cyan leaf]

Boysss recycled rubber or reroll?

[pliant prawn]

Leave it in Library, lock it out.

[cyan leaf]

Really is recycled rubber bad?

[pliant prawn]

Not bad, actually can be really useful. I just think of it's not something you want, skip it

There's better out there

[steel kelp]

?????

[cyan leaf]

Okie but ffff imma hate my life trying ti find sulfur to start quartz

[steel kelp]

Recycled rubber and plastic are up there w the best recipes in the game lmao

[pliant prawn]

Yeah eventually. But for just getting off the ground not really

[steel kelp]

I forget the multiple but i think it triples your rubber/plastic prod compared to regular rubber and plastic recipes

[dense violet]

just pick whatever looks useful for your next factory

you're never locked out of having all the recipes and they all have their uses

[dense violet]

with all the alt recipes combined it's 450% production of the base recipe

[steel kelp]

Yeah thats it

[pliant prawn]

Sulfur? For quartz? Question mark?

[steel kelp]

Its crazy i use 1 crude node for each and i have more than rubber and plastic for whatever i need

[cyan leaf]

Oh there is a decent quartz nodes near my steel stuff but an easy entrance is blocked by the rocks

[pliant prawn]

Gotcha. You need the sulfur for the nobelisk then right?

[cyan leaf]

Yeep but I cemented the site thing and all sulfur nodes are so farrr 😭

[strong dirge]

Well I learned something as I revamped my power grid to run on 48 coal generators: when belt speed caps feed rates it's better to run separate lines. A mk3 belt can only keep 16 coal generators online so running one belt line from overclocked mk2 miner to generators worked while a single combined manifold did not.

[cyan leaf]

But the question is why u need 48 of em 😭

[median geyser]

Can I use a valve to effectively stop backflow from an industrial fluid buffer?

[strong dirge]

So I can maximize production and until I get fuel generators not have to worry about power production as I get set up to properly tackle the project assembly goals

[south canyon]

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

Not really

[dense violet]

easiest way to stop back flow from a buffer is to remove the buffer

[median geyser]

Unfortunately at this time I need a temporary liquid reserve of fuel, so Im not removing it. Also that doesn't solve the problem, that just avoids it, but anyway

[dense violet]

There's probably a simpler way around whatever you need the reserve for - what are you trying to do?

[median geyser]

I have about 725/750 turbofuel powering my system. Im starting the process of converting to rocket fuel. I will need the turbofuel to continue to power my entire operation throughout this process. So Im funneling off that 25/min into these buffers, to act as temporary resevoires, that will in turn be disconnected from the turbo fuel lines when full, and then fed into the rocket fuel stage to prime it, making sure I have rocket fuel ready to go before swapping everything around, resulting in no loss of power

[dense violet]

just build some power storage and let it power up

it'll maintain the process while the rocket fuel spins up

no fluid mess needed at all

[median geyser]

I have a 50GW battery bank, just in case. Ill be expanding it to 100GW after the swap over, but 🤷

The backflow is inconsequential, I was mostly just curious because when I misclicked on valve instead of somethjing else, I saw the arrow indicating flow, and assumed that implied single direction flow only

[dense violet]

then you don't need the temp reserve, you're already set. gl with buffer though

[median geyser]

imean the buffer is doing exactly what I want, and I wasnt here looking for advice on the change over. I just saw some arrows and wanted to know what they meant 🙁

[dense violet]

I honestly don't know what arrows you're talking about. If they are athing that exists it's not a thing I pay attention to

pumps have directional arrows I think when you're placing them?

[strong dirge]

I've seen people mention using unpowered pumps to control fluid direction but I am unsure how that works or if it still works

[median geyser]

I only saw it quickly, but it looked like a blue arrow or line, kind of like the ones indicating belt direction

[unkempt blade]

arrows belong on signs pointing in the wrong direction to confuse my friends where stuff is

[median geyser]

Its possible it wasnt an arrow at all

[dense violet]

use powered pumps. It kills headlift otherwise and basically costs nothing

[dense violet]

and it only helps in some situations

[strong dirge]

Good to know

[unkempt blade]

sometimes I just use unpowered pumps because they look cool

[strong dirge]

Are floor pipe connectors still killing headlift?

[dense violet]

not as far as I have heard

haven't seen anyone come around with that issue in ages

but clipping pipes through floor holes still saves you on total world objects so it's not a bad habit

[sullen gull]

Which is still an extremely rare worry.

[south canyon]

i have to automate heavy modular frames now

[strong dirge]

I was mainly curious because when I was troubleshooting the fluids on my fires coal power plant it came up but a lot of videos are a few patches behind

[past cargo]

I currently dispise truck stations

[dense violet]

a lot of youtube videos on fluids aren't great even when they were current

[dense violet]

there's probably a quick fix for your issue

[dusky root]

Hello guys, could someone please help me?

oh nvm, im just stupid af

i have to complete phase 2 elevator to move forward xDD

[past cargo]

Do go on..

[past cargo]

Well done, you have discovered the game! Lol

[dense violet]

welll what's the issue 🙂

there's usually a simple solution to truck problems

Unless you're doing super weird things

[dusky root]

I thought i was in tier 3 and i have to move onto tier 4 but i completed tier 4 and had to move to tier 5

i have 34 hours playtime in which is being afk like 15

so i am still in the process of discovering 🤓

[dense violet]

Its a fun process 🙂

[pliant prawn]

Discovery in this game is the best part! Have fun!

15afk hrs is low key diabolical though lol

[dusky root]

i play the game like a cookie clicker

i just let the farms run

[novel heath]

just to quickly clarify ficsonium fuel rods wont generate waste right

[dense violet]

eh, I would recommend you spend the time exploring and or building more thigns while you letfactories go

[dense violet]

otherwise ficsonium would be even worse than it is

[pliant prawn]

Honestly nothing wrong with that. I've done the same for some parts. It's just really funny at your early stage

[dusky root]

today was a first time i was exploring, i just finished tier 4 so now i have to make factories for all the things in phase 2 space elevator

[novel heath]

one more thing somerslooping plutonium fuel rods is efficent right

[dusky root]

and i think thats going to take me like 15 years

[dense violet]

I mean you get more rods? sure..
only a few plutnonium rods is enough for all your vehicles though, and I never burn it in generators

[strong dirge]

Fair. The headlift on the water extractors info sorted my issues though and let me get stable power online. Though my math seems a bit off. My power production is showing 3,700 and some change but I should only be making 3,600.

[dense violet]

bioburners?

[novel heath]

oh ok

[strong dirge]

None

[dense violet]

hmm I can't think of anything that would give you +100mw

[pliant prawn]

I started in like update 6? 7 maybe? I've never actually beat the game but am over 2k hrs. Not sure how much of that was afk. At least a hundred

[sleek kettle]

Any tips or advice on making plastic quicker? On phase 4 making the supercomputers and my plastics getting swallowed up on other stuff when it gets delivered via train - currently using the polymer & water but that’s so slow. 😩

[merry granite]

is the floor is lava achievement cumulative or consecutive 30 minutes without touching the ground? It must be cumulative

i just got it cumulatively i think

[dusky root]

what update is the game at now

[pliant prawn]

They had update 8 for like a year, then the 1.0 release. We're now in 1.1, 1.2 is coming probably early next year.

[wicked nacelle]

More oil and eventually you want heavy oil reside alt. Packaged diluted fuel alt. Recycled rubber and recycled plastic alt.

[dusky root]

oo, cool. I am enjoying the game for now but its getting a bit overwhelming at times

[wicked nacelle]

Those four alts drastically increase plastic and rubber production when combined

[pliant prawn]

Might just be time to get more. Tap some more oil nodes. I like making straight into plastic and then turning the HoR into fuel

[south canyon]

is there a way to more efficiently flush items down the toilet

[sleek kettle]

How do I unlock the plastic alt, hard dives?

[wicked nacelle]

yep

[pliant prawn]

Take your time with it. Enjoy the ride. I love this game because there's no "right" answer, and there's plenty to see in just exploring.

[dense violet]

ther tiers are basically a tutorial 🙂 just mess around and learn 🙂 practice and planning are the core things

[wicked nacelle]

but you really need all four of them before they're super useful. the first two are good for just making more fuel for generators but you need all four to increase plastic/rubber production

[dense violet]

invite players to your game so they can also flush

[pliant prawn]

Lol no. Ficsit doesn't waste

[sleek kettle]

Yeh I’m having to do that but it’s like 3 x refinery’s to produce the blue polymer to then power 1 refinery for 2 pieces of plastic. It’s endless 🤣

[south canyon]

also how do I avoid clopping into the ground using hypertubes

[lament niche]

@fading raft you have been busted by Fixit for playing World of Warcraft while on shift.

[dusky root]

i had a dillema if i want to figure stuff out by myself like factory layouts or to make some from youtube vids

[sleek kettle]

Thanks I’ll go hunting hardrives and try get the alts

[pliant prawn]

Both are perfectly valid. I've needed plenty of YouTube to figure some stuff out. stares at train signals

[pliant prawn]

The factory must grow.
The factory must grow.
The factory must grow.
The factory must grow.
Lol

[wicked nacelle]

When looking for specific alts if you don’t find them do NOT select anything from the list. It will lock out both those recipes from the next hard drive you research. The more you lock out the better the chance

You can still go back and pick them later of course. So you can refill and if you don’t get it just sit on it until you do get them

[sleek kettle]

Sound gotcha! Cheers mate.

[sleek kettle]

Oh it’s growing 🤣🤣

[dense violet]

build yourself - you'll learn a lot more and actually know what is going on

[dense violet]

just don't point them at the ground

or close into them

[wary perch]

THEY DONT LET ME PUT OTHER LIQUIDS IN THE COFFEE CUP ITS NOT FAIR

[south canyon]

hm, that gives me hope of finishing this game because I have nil planning skills lmao

[pliant prawn]

LMAO but why would you change it from whisk... coffee.

Right. . . Coffee..

[merry granite]

FICSIT does not allow pioneers to consume alcohol as it impedes their productivity.

[wary perch]

There’s a better world where you can put an old fashioned in there

[south canyon]

what about biofuel

[wary perch]

That to

[pliant prawn]

A little pale berry for a cherry floating in my totally ficsit approved "Manhattan". You see, if you call it a Manhattan, it's technically a building project.

[pliant prawn]

Coffee is technically a biofuel when you think about it LMAO

[south canyon]

😭

[dusky root]

okay ,will do

[south canyon]

what about water

[dense violet]

what about it?

[south canyon]

coffe cup ingredients

[pliant prawn]

Water is required for further production of materials, so it's allocated to the factory only. Please consume your provided petrochemicals based coffee substitute. For the puppies, and kittens.

[wary perch]

i want tea though

[south canyon]

#screenshots message

what's the name of these thingies, gross red plants

[wary perch]

That’s not tea I got excited

[south canyon]

that you can sometimess cut down with the chainsaw

[wary perch]

They are some kinda mushroom, you know like mushroom coffee another thing you should be allowed to put in your coffee cup

[pliant prawn]

Mega mycelium

[wary perch]

Dunno if they have a official name but I’m sure they’d make a nice tea which you should be allowed to have in game

[pliant prawn]

That requires biomass. Please fill out the appropriate paperwork for approval

[dusky root]

U CAN DISMANTLE CRASH SITES

[wary perch]

You can’t put eggnog in your coffee cup though

[dusky root]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-game-jeff-dance-squid-game-gif-23764377

[pliant prawn]

Aye! Once you get the drive. That was actually added in 1.0 so it's not well known. Doesn't come up a lot

[wary perch]

THERE IS NO PRINTER FOR ME TO PRINT OUT AN REQUEDT

Do you think if I @ ed a mod about this I’d get in trouble

[dusky root]

i just opened my third crash site and i wanted to destroy the cable and i could dismantle the crash site, thats cool

[pliant prawn]

... ficsit requires you to make a super quantum computer to research printers in the MAM.

[wary perch]

You should be able to have other liquids from hard drives

[dapper marten]

Any suggestions on a 3 stop railway, basically a triangle pattern

[strong dirge]

I think I need to go hard drive hunt for stitched plates and iron wire

[wary perch]

You should hunt for eggnog for your coffee cup

[south canyon]

stitched vs bolted plate?

[wary perch]

OH WAIT IT DOESNT EXIST

Idk can you drink either out your coffee cup

[sullen gull]

Bolted = ❤️ imo

[south canyon]

pretty sure they both have a rather similar ratio but bolted was faster iirc

[dapper marten]

I mean, I don't go around each one like a circle, I have to go in the middle and either go left or right, then back to the intersection to second stop, then back go start

[dusky root]

wdym

[wary perch]

I think I’d be faster if I could put other liquids in my coffee cup

[south canyon]

turbofuel coffe cup

[wary perch]

From the hard drive you should be able to research other liquids for the coffee cup

[pliant prawn]

Eggnog to be distributed to all surviving pioneers meeting quotas for Ficsmas only. Any unconsumed eggnog must be reprieved to corporate on the first of the New Year

[wary perch]

I WANT PEACH TEA

[dusky root]

idk man, u can try that and let me know how that went

[pliant prawn]

YOUR GETTING PALE BERRY NUT TEA! AND SLACKS!

[wary perch]

that’s better than just COFFEE

[strong dirge]

Screws are a massive bottleneck right now even with cast screws. Though the new factory set up should fix that a bit by maximizing the iron nodes. Three normal and like five impur nodes in the area to all tap into

[south canyon]

i used steeled screws

[pliant prawn]

Bold

[strong dirge]

I think I may put my steel production near my power plant since that has a pure iron node and an unused coal node

[wicked nacelle]

other than early game steel production should probably just be done where you're going to use it. There's iron and coal basically everywhere

[strong dirge]

I have lots of iron nodes but coal is really spread out on the grassy plains

I am currently trucking it into use to make steel

[wicked nacelle]

yeah early game that makes sense

[pliant prawn]

You don't. As long as it's kinda relevant or needed. Just don't be a D y'know

[wicked nacelle]

grassy plains are pretty brutal to try to stay in long term though

[pine patrol]

logic should exist in this game cant believe it doesnt already (this isnt me saying the game should be logical im referring to logic gates like xor, not, or. Etc)

[pliant prawn]

We'll you gotta move out of every biome eventually sooooo

[south canyon]

where's the plumber's manual?
(just curious if head lift affects max flow rate)

[pliant prawn]

You mean for belts? The smart, and priority splitter mergers can do that

[sullen gull]

It does not. But it can be found on the wiki

[strong dirge]

Yeah, which is why I want to center the iron production there and use the hill above that is to make the space elevator platform but I need a better central location for the hub once I unlock oil

[strong dirge]

We have illogical gates

[sullen gull]

Only thing that "affects" flow rates are pipes that are not full

[pine patrol]

more so for machines allowing for actions to auto turn off others such as if a belt is full it will temp put the machine making the stuff on those belts on standby

[pine patrol]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[sullen gull]

Well, and a valve, but we don't talk about those 😏

[strong dirge]

Well time for real life work while thinking about how I am going to make this mess i to something ADA won't sigh at in exasperation

[willow lotus]

What a good ratio to run for my first fuel set up? I plan to set up near the blue lake on the east side of the map with i believe 4 oil nodes.

[pliant prawn]

Okay I could see that, but the machine backlogged enough it shuts off anyway. It's not great but "if full" it's enough for most cases

[strong dirge]

Right now I just have a mess piled up all over the place and jumping over everything to reach the storage container holding the parts I need isn't working

[pine patrol]

right? Its a factory game and ada constantly bashes you about efficiancy why not make it MORE efficiant

[strong dirge]

Not in Ficsit's budget

[pine patrol]

it would also allow for stuff like nuclear power plants to be turned off (power sourcesbi dont think can be turned off without starving their fuel or removing their power line physically)

[pliant prawn]

Easy one for me, just to start, split the total into rubber and plastic 50/50 with HOR output, process all that to fuel

[pine patrol]

ficsit has inplied slaves (pioneers)

[pliant prawn]

Fortunately outside of time spent, there's no actual negative to inefficient. Just... Shame lol

[pine patrol]

still its a factory game like i said it just makes sense

[strong dirge]

Too busy taste testing Summersloop to make sense

[lament niche]

Let me introduce you to irish coffee

[strong dirge]

Or coffee liquor

[lament niche]

that's just pure alcohol

[strong dirge]

With coffee in it

[pliant prawn]

Vodka, Bailey's, Godiva liqueur, Kahlua. Equal parts, over ice. I call it Russian Winter.

Frangelico for the extra nutty

[south canyon]

how do I make the jetpack use packaged biofuel instead of solid biofuel

[pliant prawn]

PC? Right click in inventory. Iirc. It's been awhile

[dense violet]

... maybe hold R...? I know it's how yo uchange ammo. I can't recall honestly. I tend to just dump my solid biofuel out of my inventory

[south canyon]

Oh, there's a cog icon

In the top right of the item stack

[lament niche]

no. it's flavored alcohol. I literally make drinks with it my dude, I know what it is.

[pliant prawn]

There it is! All praise the cog

[south canyon]

autism icon...

[pine patrol]

hover over your jetpack with your curser look for the control “preferred fuel” then select one

[dense violet]

ah nice

[sullen gull]

Actually it's at the top right of the jetpack icon when it's equipped

[south canyon]

it's still in stack form

[pine patrol]

not for console

[sullen gull]

Oh, wasn't aware. My bad. Where is it on console?

[pine patrol]

bottom on inventory ill send a screenshot

[pine patrol]

#screenshots message

@sullen gull

[sullen gull]

Ahhhh. The gear icon is still there, just have a "direct access" to it 😛

Either way, if it gets asked in here, I automatically assume PC. Since there is a "console specific" channel 😏

[pine patrol]

you cant click it on console besides triangle or whatever the equivalent is on Xbox

[pine patrol]

i roam here bc its more active and this isnt pc specific

[eager pilot]

Where is the best spot to setup a nuclear plant?

[pine patrol]

thats subjective your going to need multiple uranium ore nodes most of the time anyways

[sullen gull]

Erm, given there is a "different" way to do that on PC vs Console, it's kind of specific 😏

[graceful basalt]

I'm having problems with my coal generators, I have 8 lined up in a row, with 3 water generators connected to them. My problem is that the flow rate tapers off at the end, basically leaving 0 water in the last 2 generators.

#screenshots message

[glass pagoda]

Go to #1038092680493801533

[pine patrol]

thats a flow rate issue whats your pipe

[ocean frost]

ocean.

[graceful basalt]

mk1

[dense violet]

just the genertors? anywhere with enough water erally

[graceful basalt]

but i thought the wiki had 8 generators/3 pumps/and mk1 pipes

[merry granite]

do people typically make turnaround spots after train stations so train routes can be alot shorter?

[sullen gull]

You need to distribute the flow coming from the three extractors. connect one to each end, and another to the middle of your pipe manifold

[pine patrol]

You need another water gen at the other end then use mk2 if you have them

[dense violet]

If it's the end of hte line? sure

[sullen gull]

A lot do dual rail setups. Some make turn arounds, some make single line "end to end" lines. All personal pref.

[dense violet]

you can also have the exit be the onramp going the right way pretty simply

[pine patrol]

and you can prob get rid of one of the water extractors from the other side i doubt their all able to put water in

[sullen gull]

No. 8 gens need 360 water. So unless overclocking one of the extractors, wouldn't work.

[pine patrol]

i personally do use that but i also only have 2 trains total with only 1 train on each line

[merry granite]

I've just realized that two train stations right next to eachother are the perfect distance for a turn-around, so that might be the way ill do it

[eager pilot]

Didn’t help

[pine patrol]

??

[sullen gull]

I have no advice either way. I have no delved into trains yet.

[eager pilot]

Everything I need, debating about going to the swamp but that was awful

[strong dirge]

"Liqueur coffee is a caffeinated alcoholic drink made by mixing a shot of liqueur with coffee"

Sounds like coffee to me (though I am former military so that might be a factor)

[pine patrol]

ocean then bc youll need to ship in most things i personally ship in uranium

[dense violet]

you don't have to burn the rods where you make them - you can easily drone them to where you want to burn them

also - assume you're going to drone/train in your sulfur and uranium to where you build the rods, they are generally not in convenient spots. Then look at the online map and see where most of the resources you need are

[pine patrol]

i also ship in sulfer i forgot

[south canyon]

never thought id get jumscpared in satifactor

[sullen gull]

In the early game, one only has mk1 pipes.. only 300m^3 max flow rate. The "cookie cutter" coal gen setup (8 gens and 3 water extractors) needs 360 water. So, unless they overclock one of the extractors, they will need 3. And, would still have to provdide fluid from multiple points in order to have the total of 360m^3 water needed across the manifold.

[pine patrol]

I mine the sulfer and uranium semi close together in the (i think) sourthern west part of the red forest

[sullen gull]

Havn't met the Stingers yet? 😏

[south canyon]

tier 3?

i've med the tier 5 hogs and spitters

in the swwamp rn afaik

[dense violet]

they're just so scattered about - much easier to sit on the rest of the stuff

[pine patrol]

my thing wasnt wrong putting on extra on the other end would work fine

[lament niche]

I'm looking at the back of my bottle, and it only mentions coffee flavoring for the coffee. Sorry, no dice

[strong dirge]

Sounds like the kind of stuff that comes in a plastic bottle

[gentle lion]

Mycelia is only found when walking around no way to get it any other way ?

[pine patrol]

sulfer is pretty common imo since you dont need a ton of it

[south canyon]

You can cut down cactus in Rocky Desert or the giant mushrooms nearby too

[pine patrol]

its just certain regions lack it

[sullen gull]

around/in caves, and most everything in rocky desert and blue crater give mycelia

[pine patrol]

Rocky desert is fine if you need a ton of space but for a first setup you shoudnt use it

[lament niche]

glass, but close enough.

[south canyon]

good, because this is my first playthrough of Satisfactory

[lament niche]

what did you just say about my main base location?

[gentle lion]

Ok im working on mycelia mam and then I saw yoh still need it for the gas mask and filters

Unless you get alternate recipe

[dense violet]

sure but the locations of it are not

[pine patrol]

yes but you can fully automate one of its products farther in that tree

[dense violet]

like you have an absolute ASS tons of nitrogen on the map, the yare generally in very awkward spots though

[lament niche]

@gentle lion tell GenerikB to go back to Hermitcraft

[pine patrol]

?

[lament niche]

I didn't ping you with that message, so it wasn't intended for you

[south canyon]

is there a way to build longer hypertubes

[lament niche]

yes, just build more

[south canyon]

h

[gentle lion]

Who

I'm just gonna get the parachute unlocked for now lol

I found a crash site with the green gas things and died tryijt to be quick lol

[lament niche]

*fart rocks

[pine patrol]

if you mean to build them faster than use hypertube cannons that return back to the line

[gentle lion]

It needed repairs but not electricity

[pine patrol]

fart pillars*

[gentle lion]

Wasn't sure what it needed cause dead lol

Also I tried to locate Mercer spheres but i guess they were in a cave? Thing was found of.Crazy but it was not in front of me or above me lol

I need sumersloops and spheres I need more quantum storage

[pine patrol]

radiotowers

[lament niche]

no, *fart rocks

[pine patrol]

They wont exactly locate them but they will let you know when you have fully cleared an area of them

[wicked nacelle]

if you do annoying stuff you can use two radars to figure out where the overlap is especially once you've cleared out most of them

[sullen gull]

Mercers are pretty abundant. some are in caves/hidden, but a lot are just out in the open.

[wicked nacelle]

and of course SCIM shows you where they all are and if you're on PC SCIM will show you the ones you haven't gotten yet

and it also shows cave entrances if you're stuck finding them

[gentle lion]

Ok thanks.

[gentle lion]

I need to setup oil stuff for that right ?I can't make computers yet.

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch radar

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=radar

[sullen gull]

Like the one in the blue crater that required jumping down into the abyss 🤣

[pine patrol]

only really useful if you already have the map covered imo i wouldnt setup radiotowers for that you wont know if your estmimations are accurate unless you have counted your used mercer spheres/ uploaded your save to the map calc at that point just look at the location

[eager pilot]

Ok guess I’ll set it up next to my oil base near the ocean on the west side

[sterile blade]

When you have few items remaining, it gets pretty easy to triangulate their location with radar towers.
Can be fun, if one likes that sort of minigames

[dense violet]

whatever works for you 🙂 you can also drone the waste away very easily so it can be completely split off from any production

[wicked nacelle]

yep, that's what I was saying. But you don't really need 3, 2 is fine

3 is required for 3 dimensions but that's not how radars work in this game -- 2 is fine for 2 dimensions

radars make a cylinder not a sphere

[sterile blade]

If you have 2 set up and move the third as you travel, you can get a pretty accurate measurement without having to worry much about placing the initial 2 "properly"
Ie: you can make a more sloppy setup for still accurate results

[gentle lion]

This all.keeps coming back to I just need to setup an oil refinery base.

Stupid game. Making me leave my comfort zone.

[dense violet]

oil products are very very useful yes

[dense violet]

make your base in the east swamp. Everything you need within like 400m

[gentle lion]

I ahve no idea where that is

[sullen gull]

The world design is awesome. Fun to explore in 🙂

[dense violet]

centre east of hte map 🙂 very easy to find. The welcoming committee will help you

they have many arms to do so

[sullen gull]

😏

[wise junco]

so many arms

[dense violet]

a multitude even

[merry granite]

that area is really dangerous if you dont have decent weapons or items though innit

[wise junco]

no

it's totally safe

[dense violet]

basic exploration gear 🙂

[south canyon]

pretty sure walls can be used to stop attacks from enemies

[gentle lion]

I'm the red line
#screenshots message

[wise junco]

I think even a xenozapper would be overkill

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-liar-liar-its-totally-fine-really-is-it-friday-yet-gif-11869168

[dense violet]

jet pack , guns, healing, you're good

[merry granite]

I went there once and I got completely chased down by multiple big spiders among other things and died

[wise junco]

you didn't sing them the welcome song

[dense violet]

yup, centre right of that image, where all the land is broken up by shallow water

every resource in teh game very close by

[gentle lion]

The looks like river area?

Lots of snaky water

[dense violet]

yeah that

[eager pilot]

What do you do with the waste?

[eager pilot]

I feel you there. There is a two normal and two pure nodes plus an oil geyser on the left side of the map. That’s where mine is making fuel and turbo fuel plus providing 2/3 of my power

[merry granite]

@loud holly how did you make that in #screenshots ?

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[gentle lion]

Yeah I almost went thst way

[wicked nacelle]

and there's bauxite right there too up on the cliff

[eager pilot]

I really struggle with getting everything in one spot and making it clean and making a straight monorail track

[eager pilot]

I just found those. I’m going to combine those with the one on top of the mountain and the two pure crystal nodes in the little cave water fall area. My oil plant might grow immensely

[south canyon]

Is this in rocky desert?

[wicked nacelle]

half way up the west coast whatever that is

[south canyon]

I remember seeing bauxite and a freighter on the same cliff, and it's near my oil deposit too.

[wicked nacelle]

south or "rockey desert"?

[south canyon]

south of rocky desert

[dense violet]

either turn it to plutonium rods and sink them or burn them in drones/trucks

but you can store it pretty easily too

[wicked nacelle]

I find the biome names ununinteresting unless they're obvious.. desert, swamp...

[limpid inlet]

Do manifolds still work with fluids?

Alrighty. Thank you.

[dense violet]

it is in fact very difficult to load balance fluids

[sullen gull]

In a way. Best to keep fluids in a loop though.

[dense violet]

difficult as in you have to build your entire design around it

[eager pilot]

How? Struggling keeping my aluminum plant going

[merry granite]

Has CSS considered adding natural disasters that destroy your entire factory and all your progress on occasion?

[wicked nacelle]

sometimes it works fine as a normal manifold. only need to loop if you're having problems

[wicked nacelle]

doubtful

[south canyon]

Very doubtful

[wicked nacelle]

some "fix this abandoned base" save games could be fun though

[south canyon]

iirc they said they "wanted the game to not be in the way unless you're exploring" or smth

[dense violet]

is this a manifold question? because generally the issue with that is mixing fresh and waste water

[sullen gull]

With the way the "pressure" and what people call "sloshings" happens, always putting fluid systems in a loop will always prevent this.

[merry granite]

yeah they did

[eager pilot]

Yes

[sullen gull]

You on PC or console?

[south canyon]

What's the appeal of sloppy alumina btw

[merry granite]

how would that work

[eager pilot]

Console

[dense violet]

I'll ping you in #math-and-meta

[wicked nacelle]

I mean just pre-destroyed builds where you have to figure out what was going on and then fix it. Dunno didn't really think it through

some city building gaves have similar things but.. doesn't really fit here. But like fixing a city with awful traffic or something.

[merry granite]

yeahh if it were me, id probably destroy the abandoned factory and build my own 😂

[wicked nacelle]

"complete the following production goals in the next 45 minutes" 🙂

but that would require new features in the game -- though I really do wish it had rate goals instead of count goals

[merry granite]

I havent gotten to phase 5 but isnt there a rate goal in that?

[sullen gull]

There is never any real "rate goal". The elevator take x amount of parts. However many you want to make per min to achieve that is up to you.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah there aren't any rate goals in the game. it's strange because the game is intrinsically all about dealing with rates

[merry granite]

yeah okay. some things would need to change to make it work anyway, as you could just set up a storage container and a conveyor into the space elevator and ignore production rates entirely until you have enough

But also, rate goals would make it so you need sufficiently good factories to advance to the next stage, instead of just precrafting to rush it

[wicked nacelle]

I think it would be neat if you could get perks for maintaining certain rates. but yeah, it definetly doesn't fit witht the current game mechanics

[merry granite]

Maybe it could be something continuous? The production needs to continue or you will lose access to what you unlocked with those rates

you need to produce it forever

sounds awesome honestly if someone made it work

only problem is if your losing access to buildings (they disable, or something, when resources are insufficient) it could snowball into something awful, especially with power

[wicked nacelle]

Just seems like they could throw post-story late game a goal to achieve for some "game breaking" stuff

things like "orbital laser shots" or "no-filter radiation suit and gas mask"...

[merry granite]

oh yeah that would be cool

[wicked nacelle]

faster hoverpack -- stuff that if you lost it you'd just lose it -- more like a mod got unloaded than factory breaking

[merry granite]

I havent gotten there but I imagine alot of people try to make super-high production factories after they've beaten the game for no reason but to see how many they can get

[wicked nacelle]

but it feels different when it's first party content

[wicked nacelle]

i have a save that sinks 80 BWD/m (40/m * sloops). So yeah.

[merry granite]

i dont know what that is lool

[wicked nacelle]

end game elevator part with 3M points each

[merry granite]

ah okay

[wicked nacelle]

my goal was a coupon per minute -- coupon price stops at around 250M/coupon

[merry granite]

so you didnt get it?

[wicked nacelle]

oh I have some other end game things too -- to use up the other resources I had being made

technically BWDs are like... 2.7M. but yeah I got to 250M/m

[merry granite]

nice

[wicked nacelle]

you can technically double that number... but hell no. Not for me.

[south canyon]

ballistic warp drive

[gentle lion]

Not sure to go east or north

[novel heath]

How the hell big is your factory

[strong dirge]

I just had a thought: it's probably a good thing I can't make a network of hypertubes to transport items between factories.

Mostly because I have a feeling that the required physics would cause my console catch fire

[wicked nacelle]

let me see if I can scim it from my lappy tappy

[south canyon]

Lappy tappy ❤️

[merry granite]

I thought about this bout a week ago, about transporting items by hypertube cannon across the map, which would be pretty cool, collision and most physics could be disabled for this

as in through the air

[wicked nacelle]

loading it into scim. takes about 90 seconds

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1444176674395652220/image.png?ex=692bc1d6&is=692a7056&hm=b1d1cb0aecf4cb5532300760ce40a9647683c6532e24c6aa039bbcd4009c32fa& - approximately that big 🙂

[merry granite]

733 trains?

[wicked nacelle]

that's engines+cars. But it's about 190 trains

[merry granite]

still alot

[wicked nacelle]

yes, enough that I had to go and optimize a lot of intersections because it would just back up terribly in dense spots

[merry granite]

how many hours in this save

[wicked nacelle]

all of them

[strong dirge]

No, collision should stay on so we can be killed by our poor aim

[junior tulip]

Anyone having multiplayer stuttering issues? Happened all of a sudden after hours of running fine

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think that would be something that would be shared between different people

[merry granite]

I know theres a memory leak and the game slows down after a few hours but i dont think thats special to multiplayer

or smomething like that

[wicked nacelle]

tell the host to stop downloading so many... uhhh "special videos"

[junior tulip]

Im in with multiple people and everyone is rubber-banding except the host

then itll stop for everyone at the same time and start again

[wicked nacelle]

yeah sounds like host internet issues.

i mean .. not necessarily something he did wrong but his ISP

or his computer is nearing CPU limitations and when other things run it lags

is potato?

[junior tulip]

Working on figuring these things out. Thank you

[wicked nacelle]

having host reboot computer and modem and router (or maybe the same thing) wouldn't be a bad choice

[south canyon]

Wow, there's only 1 sulfur node in Rocky Desert

[dense violet]

probably. There aren't many sulfur nodes on the map - though you also don't need much

[primal obsidian]

YES finally finished nuclear power plant waste managment and all

wait i forgot a sink

[solid grail]

Damn nuclear power i just finished my coal power plant 😂

[primal obsidian]

this took me my whole week like i spent 20 hours on this and it was only 48 reactors

[limpid inlet]

is there a way to get a coal miner to split materials in 2 without worrying about the output of the coal mine itself?

[solid grail]

Just place a splitter at the miner output

[limpid inlet]

yeah but then wont the miner output be affected by the coneyor belt speed for a split second?

[median rain]

How do you make the output of something be a recurring decimal

[merry granite]

yeah you cant solve that

[novel heath]

Nicee

[limpid inlet]

tragic

[solid grail]

No if you have a fast enough belt to handle the output

[solid grail]

20 hours for 48 reactors is good right?

[primal obsidian]

idk man

first time why are you asking me

[solid grail]

Idk you said only 48 reactors

[primal obsidian]

yeah cause some people do like 100+ and thats alot

[primal obsidian]

why?

just set the output to whatever you need

[dense violet]

machines will always round up the 4th decimal, so you technically can't

[primal obsidian]

if you setup the output to how much you need you can right?

[dense violet]

but if you feed the machine only enough parts for 23.33333333333 parts per min
and you clock it to 23.3334 , it'll over time on average produce the repeating decimal, it'll just occasionally stutter

[limpid hazel]

some people spend 20 hours on coal

[dense violet]

if you set up the input materials it'll average out over time yes

[solid grail]

Hmm thats a lot

[median geyser]

Are there any good videos that explain the basics of nuclear power and waste management? Ive found dozens showcasing either "my personal super cool build" or "how to make a blueprints that does it all for you, don't think, just click, trust me bro", but Id rather start by handling it myself and then turn to effecient stuff once I have a core understanding of whats happening

[primal obsidian]

yeah that is a lot

[limpid hazel]

the recipes are in the game, idk what other information you would expect to get

waste go into recipe or into box

[primal obsidian]

its just the same as any other production line

[dense violet]

it's honestly not any different from any other production line in the game

choose recipe paths for rods
burn them
choose recipe path for waste management

[median geyser]

Except this one kills you if you mismanage the waste 😂

[limpid hazel]

it is 2025 you can wear the rad suit 24/7

[little kettle]

Make the waste into plutonium rods and sink them, "cleanest" option

[primal obsidian]

i have a really rad suit that lets me avoid that

[dense violet]

don't 🙂 make a plan for it
here, a plan to manage 1000 uranium waste pm https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=kR3OBgLX04B0jDtt8kUz

[median geyser]

My worry is that I dont have access to waste management yet I don't think? Ive not yet complete phase 4, and Ive seen recipes up to plutonium, but my understanding was that I had to go a step beyond that to handle waste?

[primal obsidian]

or you could go insane and go all the way to ficsonium fuel rods

[limpid hazel]

you need more to handle plutonium waste, not uranium waste

[median geyser]

oooh

[dense violet]

you could either store waste until then, or jsut unlock it before you make nuclear power

[median geyser]

I misunderstood the production chain then

[limpid hazel]

you can sink plutonium rods, store waste, or wait until you can process it into the next fuel rod type

[dense violet]

that plan is using only base recipes - you could modify it to simplify it dow nand be more resource efficient

[median geyser]

I thought you had to go uraniuam -> waste -> plutonium -> waste -> whatever comes next -> safety

[primal obsidian]

me neither and i have a working plant so yeah you got something wrong

[dense violet]

you can choose just not to burn the plutonium 🙂

[median geyser]

Yeah didnt realize that, ty 🙏

[mortal arrow]

Hey so whenever I try to open the game my screen immediately goes all black and my fans go all crazy and I gotta hold the power button to turn it off. Any help?

[median geyser]

That simplifies this so much

[primal obsidian]

plutonium is a great fuel source

for drones and vehicles

[gritty sleet]

I can't pick these remains up :/
#screenshots message

[open swallow]

The first thing I'd look at is your power supply

Is it of sufficient capacity?

[limpid hazel]

it's true. you can't.

[median geyser]

Sounds like you either don't meet the minimum specs and your pc is capping out just launching the game, or something is critically wrong with one of your components

[mortal arrow]

Ive played before with no problems with the same PC

Actually been playing it for a couple years now

[median geyser]

Big worry

Bro's box is about to 🤯

[open swallow]

Next thing I'd check is RAM

[limpid hazel]

you don't have 13th or 14th gen intel, do you?

[mortal arrow]

no

[solid grail]

Do you have latest graphics drivers?

[primal obsidian]

i love to see my plutonium fuel rod plant being bottlenecked by waste cause it means i dont need to deal with waste backlog

[solid grail]

Hi

[gentle lion]

Looking at oil stuff , when I start extraction it goes to refinery , but we're does the heavy oil residue go?

[sullen gull]

Can open the codex to see

[median geyser]

At first, into a different refinery, turned into blue stuff, and then from there either part of another recipe or sunk

[south canyon]

Turn HOR into fuel

Later you can get the Diluted Fuel or Diluted Packaged Fuel (forgor which one)

[merry granite]

What is the longest length of train line can support a throughput of 315 plastic per minute?

[dense violet]

... what?

[south canyon]

I think they're talking about a single-line railway

[dense violet]

I don't think that's a good question for that throughput need

[merry granite]

well if the train storage fills up and cant bring it all over in time then its throughput is limited

[dense violet]

you can make a train return trip time as long as you like, just have more platforms

add more platforms then.

[merry granite]

I suppose that would suffice

although I guess i wonder what the longest return time for that throughput would be, with one platform

[south canyon]

Is there a way to quickly switch between the jetpack and parachuet?

[dense violet]

divide how much 1 car can hold by throughput you need

[merry granite]

how much can 1 car hold

[dense violet]

!wikisearch car

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=car

[dense violet]

hmm can't recall the actual name but should come up easily in the wiki

I think it's 32 stacks?

[merry granite]

yeah it is

i think its 20 minutes

ty

although i think thatd have to bbe both ways

[gentle lion]

Yeah I looked there then just kinda scratxhef6my head lol

[median geyser]

Why is the satisfactory production planner showing me a single orange input node of bauxite to caterium in a matter converter set to 0.000001% clock speed, using 0xConverters?

[dense violet]

total return trip time, including docking

[median geyser]

This does not tie into any crafting lines either

[gentle lion]

So extractor couple refinerys then a sink I've only unlocked the oil part of teir 5

[dense violet]

which one?

[median geyser]

Satisfactory Tools? I didnt know there were multiple

[dense violet]

share the link 🙂 I'll have a look.
sometimes it'll have a left over box though, yo ucan ignore it

[median geyser]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=MhzroAsnkzKsyGWIP3Ha

My plot for my first megafactory. No idea how its gonna work, but 🤷

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[dense violet]

yeah just ignore it. Sometimes that happens.

though I wouldn't bother including a bunch of ingots inthe plan, it's pointless to store them

[median geyser]

lmao I removed the ingot storage and now its showing 3 converter boxes

[dense violet]

it takes a bit of practice to learn properly, but imo it has the best user interface and options. Well worth it

[median geyser]

all the same way

[dense violet]

yeah. You have all the converter recipes checked but it's not using them. But creating boxes?
Best to turn off the conversion recipes anyway

they're rarely useful and you generally don't have SAM ore nearby

[median geyser]

Where are they? just in the basic recipes? Ive just been vibing with whatever settings the website had, besides adding my alt recipes

[dense violet]

type ( into the recipe list on the base recipe side

that will narrow the list down to mostly the conversion recipes

I just unchecked them and it removed the boxes on your plan

[novel heath]

Where have you found them useful?

[median geyser]

Amazing ty

[dense violet]

I haven't xD

SAM ore is basically never where you need it, so you might as well just import the actual ore you need

[median geyser]

Mother of god... 153 assemblers and 353 constructors... I might reconsider a megafactory 😂 I can't even begin to wrap my head around how to arrange that many of anything into a fuctional system

[sullen gull]

Try Satisfactory Modeler on steam.

Just search the Steam store. It's free.

[dense violet]

try this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=AriF74OQj6QKNcqmgZue

what is confusing about it?

[sullen gull]

Only thing is doesn't do is build production chains automatically. Everything else it does very well.

@rugged jasper

[median geyser]

That... is a link to the same production schematic i think?

Same number of buildings, I havent checked each individual input

[dense violet]

shooouldn't? 131 constructors on this one

[median geyser]

oooh it opened a new web page but defaulted to my original factory and not the shared one

[dense violet]

yeah tends to do that

[median geyser]

😂 You just split it with foundrys

[dense violet]

that's a totally normal plan. What do you feel is missing from it? it tells yo uall the steps you need for your production

well, you need all those steps for that particular item and recipes you're using shrug

adaptive control units are a bit beefy

[median geyser]

I cant speak for them, but I know for me the issue is wrapping my head around placing/organizing more than a dozen machines in a logical way 😂

[dense violet]

yes 🙂 with those recipes you need all those moving parts.

you can change the recipes ofc , it might simplify it

if you're makign 10pm with those recipes? yes

if you need it to be simpler you can break dow nteh plan into multiple parts by adding 'inputs' in the inputs tab

[wicked nacelle]

all you have to do to build anything is make the machines that build the end product then feed it. Build those machines then feed them. Repeat until done. Honestly everything just breaks down into that