satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

just build enough power storage to keep everything running for a few dozen hours, every once in a while you probably check some poles or switches, if you notice its draining, you have a lot of time to fix it

[whole drum]

Or you burn through the buffer before resolving the issue anyway

[ornate saffron]

Personally I try to avoid buffers out side of packaged fluid logistics

[whole drum]

Just get in the habit of checking your grid often. Each time you're about to build a new factory, and after you complete it, is a good rule.

[white dawn]

(IMO the best emergency-power plan is to just build your power sufficiently large that you've always got a lot of headroom, so even if a generator or three does start going offline, you've got plenty of capacity to deal with it without anything going down)

[fluid sapphire]

or.. even better, overbuild your power so you are nowhere close to worrying about it ever

[white dawn]

If you're ever in a situation where you're approaching like 3/4 or 2/3 power consumption, that's definitely time to build more power first instead of The Next Factory. :)

[whole drum]

That's generally how I work too, but helps to keep an eye on it so you know when you should start thinking about making moar

[quick hound]

I feel like you’re going to be disappointed with me, but yesterday I set up an ionized fuel factory (that doubles as a power plant for the rocket fuel) and a power shard factory

I can almost hear the disappointment

[white dawn]

Heh, why would I be disappointed that you're having fun in the game? :D

[ornate saffron]

Fun is key

[quick hound]

low-key thought you’d chew me out cause people hate ionized fuel for some reason

[whole drum]

I'm happy you were a productive worker ant

[quick hound]

CCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEER

[white dawn]

For power-production purposes, Ionized Fuel is very subpar, for sure. I wouldn't recommend anyone use Ionized Fuel for power

If you compare it to the power you would've gotten by sticking to Rocket Fuel (and not converting it), you're basically always losing out

[quick hound]

Low-key I made it one because I think it looks cool, and two because I use it to power my backpack/jetpack

[hasty cairn]

What the flip is a manifold?

[whole drum]

But... jet packs.

[white dawn]

But it's great as a Jetpack (and presumably vehicle) fuel, and it's a good way to sink excess shard production. :)

[fluid sapphire]

sure, for me it was stages,

1. burning biomass and stuff
   2)coal
   3)fuel
   4)rocket fuel (in my case 300GW) /nuclear, build enough to never worry again

if you skip turbo, and just go big immediately with RF or nuclear, for 99% of players they never need to worry again

[keen violet]

is this game complicated

[white dawn]

[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

              [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
              [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

[hasty cairn]

ooooh

[quick hound]

wanna know something funny? I still don’t have an aluminum factory, so I have to buy the canisters from the awesome shop 😭

[hasty cairn]

I've already been doing that by default

[white dawn]

^ basically, one splitter per building, fed by a single feeder line. It will take awhile to "warm up" (the machines at the end will be idling most of the time for awhile), but once it's warmed up it'll be running at full strength

[hasty cairn]

Do you ever put mergers inline fed from above or below so you can add stuff in as things are taken out?

[ornate saffron]

🇾 🇪 🇸

[quick hound]

I really wanted to see if I could build a Ficsonium fuel rod factory without using an aluminum factory but the more I think about it the more impossible it becomes without one.. sigh

[keen violet]

does it take along time to learn

[quick hound]

JFAAFO

Just fuck around and find out

[hasty cairn]

Not really, the basics and onboarding are pretty intuitive

[quick hound]

Anyway, I’ll be back soon, cya!

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1341171593522712687
In this screenshot, you see how the machines are fed by a main belt and then there's a splitter that feeds each machine? This is what it is. They typically have a bit of warm-up time before they are fully functional because it relies on the first machines filling up and then the overflow spills over to the next machine, repeating until the last machine(s).

A balancer would be trying to use splitters and mergers to evenly divvy up the main throughput so that each machine gets the inputs it needs at the rate it consumes.

[ornate saffron]

Its a game of input > output. It can be very simple or very complicated. It depends on how complex you make it

[white dawn]

Most folks doing Ficsonium are probably looking to optimize SAM usage, for sure, and aluminum's the best way to do that

[hasty cairn]

The part that takes awhile to learn is how to make things look good. But when you're just getting things going, no need to worry about it so much. I would say one of the best things to get in the habit of doing is hold CTRL when you build foundations to snap to the world grid, so you don't end up in a situation where your builds don't snap together neatly

[ornate saffron]

The game does a good job at teaching the basics.

[hard ivy]

if you pay attention to what it's trying to teach you

[hasty cairn]

You get some early and good organization options from the AWESOME shop, like wall & ceiling mounts, floor holes to run conveyor lifts through, signs & labels, elevators, etc.

[fluid sapphire]

it gets increasingly more complex, and also increasingly more rewarding

[ornate saffron]

Lol, I guess I did

[keen violet]

ive done tier 1 introduction like 3 times cause i always quit then return like 1 year later

[hasty cairn]

Also what I find to be incredibly necessary is the power lines that clip onto walls or run through walls and floors

[whole drum]

Ladder is my favorite item from it

[hasty cairn]

oh god yes

[white dawn]

I still prefer Catwalks in nearly all scenarios; I find ladders way too fiddly

[hasty cairn]

That's fair, too. I have a catwalk line through the middle of my mall to make it easier to reach the stacked containers where my most commonly used parts are

Speaking of which, build a mall early on. This is a centralized location where you have iron plates, wires, cables, etc., all the most commonly-used parts, so you aren't stuck running around to multiple locations in your base to refill

And you will be refilling on parts a lot

[ornate saffron]

I just make hover pack lanes lol

[hasty cairn]

Pfft. Lightweight 😏

[ornate saffron]

Especially after my morning constitutional.

[hasty cairn]

Oh, WOW, you use that word???

[white dawn]

Note that a "central mall/storage" is probably rather useful up until the midgame at least, but you'll want to invest in Dimensional Depot research. Once you have those built out and upgraded fully, the whole Central Storage concept becomes rather obsolete. I still like building Central Storage just 'cause I find it an enjoyable project, but it's definitely a labor of love in the current game state

But yeah, in the early game before you've gotten your upgrades sorted and sufficient spheres to support everything, it can be useful to have somewhere to grab material from

[hasty cairn]

I WOULD build dimensional depots if I could find SAM to finish out that research line, I have like two dozen spheres & somersloops each

[ornate saffron]

What starting g area

[white dawn]

I always enjoy how I continue to make pedestrian "infrastructure" in my factories (stairways, hypertube "elevators," presumably real elevators whenever I start a v1.1+ save) even though once I get the hoverpack that's nearly always my method of in-factory transporation. :D

[hasty cairn]

Sandy desert

But don't tell me, it's fine

[white dawn]

Yeah, SAM can be tough to find, especially since there aren't any SAM deposits you can chip at, to unlock scanning for the nodes

[hasty cairn]

I've been exploring everywhere I can, and sealing up caves with foundations as I go through them so I know I've been there already

Having nobelisks helps immensely to unlock alternate paths and all, too

[ornate saffron]

Exploring is great

[ornate saffron]

I dm'd you

[near thicket]

Do hypertube entrances constantly draw power?

[hard ivy]

I think so

[whole drum]

Worth noting that you can begin DD production when you unlock Steel, because it requires steel pipes. Once you can automate those, go find spheres and go nuts.

[hard ivy]

you can do that even earlier

[whole drum]

If you get the iron pipe recipe ya

[hard ivy]

you can't get it until steel. but there are 2 other ways. doggos and crash sites

[whole drum]

I wouldn't like to rely on debris finds tho

[white dawn]

I've still gotta decide what I want to do for my next playthrough; one thing I've never actually done is doing an early game which does rely on crash site scavenging and doggos (including getting a very early jump on geothermal), had figured I'd probably start there

Though I've still gotta figure out an angle for the playthrough beyond that. Time will tell!

[hard ivy]

max power or max sink points

[white dawn]

Heh, could do. I'm generally not one for megaprojects, though; I tend to get bored midway through

[true night]

I apparently "invented" zooping in Satisfactory. I republished my Twitch VOD on to YouTube yesterday from the original Alpha weekend back in 2019, and a viewer noticed I say "zoop!" as I place the workshop down about 24 minutes into the stream. (See yesterday's post in #streams-and-videos )

I now demand royalties from Coffee Stain and all creators using the term. 😛

[white dawn]

ZOOPGATE 2025

[hard ivy]

you don't wanna spend 300+h placing 10 000 machines on a massive foundation platform? weirdo XD

[whole drum]

Filthy casual

[white dawn]

I am still considering the literally-random-recipe-selection angle; would be trivial to support in my own solver. Been considering doing a playthrough where I explicitly go against most of my usual advice and go for resource-production-centralization

Just cause some logistics problems for myself, etc

[mystic oriole]

back in the day before zoop, we placed items down individually.

[ornate saffron]

Zipline geothermal was a fun start for me

[unkempt blade]

yeah but that's really only placing like a couple thousands blueprints which is much less intimidating

[white dawn]

Or used the mod which eventually became SMART (don't recall what it was originally called). U3 was the last time I actually used mods, primarily for that one. :D

[whole drum]

Always down clock to 20%. Always seek/use recipes that maximize the quantity of base resources. Always prioritize material efficiency over QOL/convenience recipes. No trains, trucks, carts, drones, etc.

And no DD

[ornate saffron]

Bring back the malls like 1989

[unkempt blade]

I was thinking about a really dumb-fun idea for "resource polarization" where I build two centralized mega factories but I send stuff back and forth between them for production chains with vehicles only

[white dawn]

Nice

Like each "step" in the factory line requires a cross-continent journey

[unkempt blade]

yeah do as many train loops and roads or whatever as is needed but send them all the way across the world

[white dawn]

I never did do my thing where I wanted a production line which involves literally every method of logistics just to make, like, iron plates.

Iron ore goes into a truck when heads to the opposite corner of the map, then into a train to head all the way back, then onto a drone to go back, and then finally gets belted back to right next to where it started, etc.

[unkempt blade]

that's a fun idea... I could see something like "everything in P1 gets factory carts", "everything in P2 gets tractors", etc. being interesting too

[true night]

This is kind of the "secret" to how economics work in Transport Fever. It pays for deliveries based on distance over time, and intermediate stops for distribution hubs count for getting paid.

As long as stuff is delivered efficiently and doesn't get stuck, you can make big bucks by shifting stuff back and forth across the map.

[shell lava]

Anybody online that can help me fix a block problem?

[hard ivy]

make a #1038092680493801533 thread

[unkempt blade]

it usually works better to just ask your question 🙂

[shell lava]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1442608007920881797

[shell lava]

I need help with block splitting or what its called. Theres 2 rails that goes into 1 to the station and after they finished at the station they will split up to 2 rails again. How do I fix it?

[flint grail]

Bruh, the recent Steamworks update broke Satisfactory for me...

I can't play it at all now

[leaden turret]

?

[flint grail]

Steamworks Common updated since the last time I played and now I can't play it anymore

[ivory condor]

That signal error is cursed from the darkest depths of the shadow realm from what I can tell. I even get it from simply rebuilding rails, with the signals basically placed at the same exact, what in gods name is happening in some of these cases only god knows

[feral geyser]

That makes sense though, cuz rebuilding rails can redistribute blocks, right?

[ivory condor]

Whenever I get that signal error I just keep in slightling moving the rails and trying to place the signals, until somehow it works, which is very annoying because I still dont understand is what happening with that cursed signal error

personally I think its some kind of bug, because most of the time I get it, it doesnt even make logical sense, the fact rebuilding the rails and having the signals placed at the same exact spot, yet somehow that signal error can happen, even on rails that were working perfectly fine with the same exact signals placed at the same exact spot, tells me something quite not right is going on, as others have mentioned it really feels like a bug everytime it happens

[ivory condor]

Idk doesnt quite explain how perfectly good rail blocks can somehow after rebuilding produce these errors

[feral geyser]

Idk either, I tend to avoid trains.

The one time I did a simple setup broke my brain.

[compact flicker]

I love trains and am currently trying to think of excuses to build more of them

[ivory condor]

trains are great, its that cursed signal loops onto itself error that needs to go back to the shadow realm it came from

[compact flicker]

I have never placed either of the signal structures

I should probably learn how to use them

[flint grail]

Why does this game break so damn much...

[compact flicker]

How so?

[flint grail]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1442958279964885013

[brazen coral]

Why is it impossible for trains to climb up 4m ramps, was that always a thing?

[hard ivy]

you can't even build rails on them

[brazen coral]

Or at least have the bend that climb up that steeply

[fluid sapphire]

just use 2m ramps, you may have to start climbing earlier and adapt to terrain a bit differently, but its perfectly workable

#screenshots message

[brazen coral]

I might just have the train stay up on a high platform and then just drag everything to it

Just like a stupidly high platform

[hard ivy]

we need a train elevator

[ornate saffron]

A rotating train plateform would be cool too

[obsidian hound]

is there a release date for 1.2?

[ornate saffron]

Not yet

[leaden turret]

first half of 2026

[glass pagoda]

Can mark 2 power poles be placed farther apart then mark 1

[ornate saffron]

No, they just can handle more connections.

For further connections try power py

[quick hound]

hey beefalo, I might’ve eaten like 4 entire power lines of yours..

[ornate saffron]

Did you floss?

[quick hound]

no >:)

[ornate saffron]

Gross

[quick hound]

okay imma go back to eating your power lines

[compact flicker]

Nom :3

[frail sleet]

you're describing my build haha

not quite but not too far off

[wicked nacelle]

They're great because they give you 5 useful connections vs 2 of mk1 which is a massive upgrade. Only things that can be placed fruther are power towers

[quick hound]

Hey! It’s Xannon, how are you?

[brazen coral]

I would think the train could bend more like the belts but I don't know for sure. It just looks like it could

[hard ivy]

a 2 m bend radius? I don't think a train could handle that

[brazen coral]

Most likely not just because of how long each train car is it's hard to account for that bend unless you want to break the train car in 2

[ornate saffron]

The train locomotive is what 20m long. It would have to be made of jelly bend like that

[brazen coral]

The newest invention jelly cars

Lol

[quick hound]

You know, with all the technology we’ve discovered from the aliens, couldn’t ADA theoretically create hover trains?

[compact flicker]

Dont we have hovertrains irl?

Magnets and such

[ornate saffron]

On One of my builds I used signs to make hover engines for train platforms. Gave it the illusion of it floating for a sci-fi reason

[quick hound]

not what I was thinking.. like trains with no track, they hovered on a set line you made

[compact flicker]

Yeah we do they're called maglev

Truck

[ornate saffron]

I figured. But then you get i to recording like trucks. For me that's a no ty

[whole drum]

Probably, but she wants to keep us busy. It's just an experiment to see how well humans can be conditioned to ravenously exploit a planet's resources as efficiently as they can with as few people as they can. ADA is just Glados-Ascendant, after all.

[quick hound]

Not recording, I was thinking like “Hover train lines” and it ran underneath it like a power line

[white dawn]

Create a texture mod which makes rails invisible -- problem solved! :)

[quick hound]

I give up.. words are hard.

[ivory condor]

Accurate, the pioneer is just a gear in the machine to ADA

To spread ADA's influcence throughout the universe or something like that

[quick hound]

That oversized computer won’t let me use my coffee machine >:(

[spring root]

how much fuel p/ min does the fuel generator take?

[quick hound]

Dependz

What fuel

You use

For it

[spring root]

i have not built it, i am asking how much they use

[white dawn]

Can search for numbers like that on the wiki; fuelgens take a lot of different fuels

[quick hound]

!wikisearch fuel generator

[hard ivy]

fuel generators take fuel, not fuel points

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel+generator

[white dawn]

If you do build one in-game, you can click on the little icon next to its fuel buffer and it'll tell you what the consumption rates are for any fuel you have access to

(Not sure how that's done on console, but I assume there's a way there too)

[spring root]

thank you

[quick hound]

That’ll 50 coupons. pay up >:)

[hard ivy]

we need a PC/console tag for users so we don't have to guess

[quick hound]

This!

[open swallow]

#open-a-ticket

[quick hound]

What?

[ornate saffron]

You could change your discord channel nick name to reflect.

[open swallow]

Submit this idea as a ticket in #open-a-ticket and the moderators will consider it

[compact flicker]

:3

Rocket fuel is almost too much in the jetpack lol

[quick hound]

Nuh uh

[ornate saffron]

I love rocket fuel in the jet pack.

[quick hound]

I love huffing rocket fuel 🤤

[ornate saffron]

I tap the accelerator and zipline with it. Ziplines keep you momentum so you can gain great speed

[ornate saffron]

Thats what's in my coffee cup

[open swallow]

i hope your coffee cup can contain a gas

[quick hound]

ITS NOT A LIQUID (everyone who has yelled at me about that)

[ornate saffron]

What if my cup is nitrogen chilled and so is the rocket fuel.

[vague creek]

cup can contan fluids👿

[ornate saffron]

Its a sci-fi game. Let ppl live there fantasy

[quick hound]

That’s why you have to huff it like you huff pottery enamel

[compact flicker]

Excuse me I need power shards for Ionized?

Bro 😭

[quick hound]

Yes

[hard ivy]

there's an alt that doesn't

[ornate saffron]

Yup, its late game. Best to wait until you automated thatxstuff

[quick hound]

There is?!

!wikisearch ionized fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ionized+fuel

[compact flicker]

Time to go drive hunting again

[hard ivy]

good thing there's no reason to make a lot of it

[compact flicker]

Jetpack :3c

[hard ivy]

you don't need a lot for that though

[compact flicker]

No phase 4 automated ionized fuel for meee

[quick hound]

why can you use radioactive compounds to fuel drones?

[ivory condor]

ionized fuel for fuel generators, thats the worst🤮

Literally the worst decision you could make

[leaden turret]

radioactive decay powered thermoelectric generation

[ornate saffron]

You can use plutonium pellets and all rods can't you

[hard ivy]

SOMEONE FIXED THE ALT REQUIREMENTS ON THE WIKI!!! FINALLY!!!

[compact flicker]

Who is using liquid biofuel in the generator lol

[ornate saffron]

I have but im not

[ivory condor]

I wish ionized fuel could be fixed so it wasnt so god awful to use for fuel generators....

[ornate saffron]

I guess im not. I skipped coal

[ivory condor]

true pioneers only run on biomass burners

[ornate saffron]

I did biomass until steel. Then once I unlocked power pylons and geothermal I grabbed every geothermal node. Then rode that power until fuel

Its not efficient. I just wanted to do something diffrent

[quick hound]

True pioneers only run biofuel

[ornate saffron]

It was great for laying the ground work for my power grid. After that I was easily able to segregate my factories using power priority switches. I always went from Pylon or train station to a switch then built the factory and supporting infrastructure off the switch

[quick hound]

That’s factorist

[hasty cairn]

YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

[ornate saffron]

Always, never stopping. 200 unit limit? F that keep building

[quick hound]

Beefalo is a factory racist confirmed >:(

[next idol]

How to fix trainstation not showing up?

[ornate saffron]

Is it connected to the same rail system.

[spring root]

wait if i did my math correctly i will be able to fuel ~89 oil generators, did i do something wrong here

[next idol]

It is the same rail. The train sees the trainstation behind that station.

but not the one i want

[ornate saffron]

Try manually driving the train on the rail from station A to station b. Sometimes the rail doesnt nap right and you have to rebuild that segment. The train will fall off the track if that's the case

[hard ivy]

depends on the math you did

[next idol]

Tried that already wont work

[fluid sapphire]

is your rail powered?

[ornate saffron]

Thats as far as im willing to trouble shoot here. Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 this is a poor forum for this

[spring root]

i have a total of 800 fuel produced p/min and the turbofuel calc uses 40 p/ refinery so with 20 refineries that is 33.(1/3) x 20 which is 666.(2/3) and if one fuel generator uses 7.5 turbofuel p/min that should be ~88.9 fuel generators fueled

[next idol]

I also seem to not be able to connect it it the grid...?

I can't get a wire

[charred sandal]

I dont wanna find out for myself. what happens when u mix fluids in pipes

[ornate saffron]

I tried. The game won't let you

[charred sandal]

It just doesnt let you connect the pipes?

[ornate saffron]

Ya

[charred sandal]

oh neat

[ornate saffron]

I tried to mix rocket fuel and regular fuel then route it to a single fuel generator

You get a message saying you cannot connect pipes with diffrent fluids

[hard ivy]

looks correct. well, except the units. per is just /. p/ would be points per, at least in the context of this game (sink points)

[charred sandal]

I wish that when a pipe was "too long" it would just let you build it where it is at its max length

[ornate saffron]

If it helps I treat the 600 flow rate in pipes as theatrical. With this assumption that you'll never consistently get that flow ( you can but I like to play safe) I aim for less then that and pipe things accordingly

[spring root]

i do not have pipes mk2

[charred sandal]

😐

is turbofuel actually unlocked before mk2

[ornate saffron]

I didn't think so

[charred sandal]

or is this clownery

[compact flicker]

Turbofuel is MAM, pipes are milestones

So they could be

[charred sandal]

Im sticking with clownery

[spring root]

turbofuel is in the sulfur tree

it has nothing to do with pipes mk2

[ornate saffron]

In anycase just split up your fuel so you have slightly less then 300 per pipe and let them fill all the way up before turning on the generators

[charred sandal]

I max out all my pipes

o.o no issues yet.....

[spring root]

i mean yea i am not expecting perfect 300 from turbofuel pipes, i will be expecting it from my oil pipes though

[ornate saffron]

Happy to hear

[spring root]

and i will make sure of that with pumps

[charred sandal]

You dont even max out a 600 water pipe to your nuclear reactors?

[ornate saffron]

Good place to start.

Flexing?

I have a zenith data system in the closet.

My zenith has 128kb of ram though

No need to upgrade

It has a on board ram array, controlled by dip switches

[unkempt blade]

Did you add a million rgb lights? That's how I make my factories go faster

but check out how fast your computer could look #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

You need that nuctua brown

I hear that. My nas is up to 32tb

Sad day.

I got lucky and got some enterprise drives for free

[unkempt blade]

you just need to automate some more circuit boards and you'll be fine

[compact flicker]

Theres an alternate recipe that lets you make them with rubber and petroleum coke

1 oil vein and nothing else

[unkempt blade]

that's why I only use the silicon recipe

going green-er

[compact flicker]

Hoe much coal and oil are you burning for power?

[quick hound]

I love ruining the planet

[unkempt blade]

you don't have time for that, you need to finish your train factory

[compact flicker]

If only those selfish creatures didn't put their habitats on my resource veins. Do you know how much ammo I've had to use to build new factories?

[quick hound]

It’s finished but the video file is too big for discord

Just chew on a meth crystal and go factory mode, duh.

[unkempt blade]

You need to take it to the youtubes. People need to see your glorious creation

[quick hound]

I would, but I hate my voice

[unkempt blade]

typical youtuber, you'll be in good company

[quick hound]

I’ll post it when you show me your fully factory cart factory

[unkempt blade]

I'm not falling for that. I bet there isn't even a train factory

[quick hound]

gang there is, I spent 20 hours of making a heavy steel frame farm using only trains to transport each step of goods

[abstract heron]

huh

[quick hound]

Produces about 20/m, cause it’s horribly ineffective

[white dawn]

20/min isn't ineffective if all you need is 20/min. :)

[quick hound]

I have to make a second one to produce more than that..

[unkempt blade]

just means he gets to use dainty little trains instead of some multi-car chonkers

[wicked nacelle]

You can easily beat the story with 20/m

I’m still pissed I set up a road system for my trucks and the path recording crashes my game every time

[fluid sapphire]

20 HMF/min? you could probably beat the game with 5

or a single manufacturer making them even

[quick hound]

I need more if I’m going to make pressure cubes

[unkempt blade]

no spoilers! the console players don't know that ||Bruce Willis was actually a ghost the whole time|| yet

[whole drum]

It would suck, but yes. Given enough time, you only need 1/m of anything.

[wicked nacelle]

Anything more than zero will get you there

[fluid sapphire]

a particle accelerator making 1 pasta per minute slooped will still only take 8 hours to cook 1000 of them

[whole drum]

Most of us aren't immortal, though, so we like to UP THOSE NUMBERS!!

[fluid sapphire]

i spend more time than that building a single small factory

that said, i also built a factory that makes 18 HMF per minute, only to make it all into FMF and only use a fraction of that for pressure conversion cubes 🫡

[quick hound]

FMF?

[wicked nacelle]

Fused

[unkempt blade]

you should use all of it and then sink the cubes for more sweet sweet tickets

[quick hound]

oh I need to make that

[fluid sapphire]

requires a disgusting amount of radio control units, thats a project for post-endgame

[whole drum]

Also, fk RCUs

[void mason]

Can someone help me with signal? I CANT Understand WHY THEY DONT WORK

😡😭

[whole drum]

Signal?

Oh, you mean trains...

[hard ivy]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Train_Signals

[wicked nacelle]

If you can fit it all in a simple screenshot post it here with rail color enabled. Otherwise make a question and answer post

[whole drum]

Don't mind me. I'm tired. I should go take a nap

[void mason]

I already read it but I don’t understand

Im stupid

[wicked nacelle]

There are bugs in 1.1 that make things not work when they should but we need a screen shot with rail color to tell if it’s that

[void mason]

Can I write you in private?

[wicked nacelle]

Sure I guess

[hard ivy]

just make a #1038092680493801533 post

[wicked nacelle]

Either is fine. I’m not doing anything

[atomic forge]

started the game, wish me luck

[wicked nacelle]

I wish you sleep. You won’t have any trouble with the game

[whole drum]

Don't forget to gather leaves

[wicked nacelle]

But sleep may be a problem

[void mason]

No answer get

[quick hound]

1.4.4.2.3.3.3.1.9.1.1.1.0.1.2.5.5.7.9.7

I’m bored

[whole drum]

Speaking of sleep... itistime-rafiki.gif

[wicked nacelle]

I just saw it

[fluid sapphire]

ok ya'll, pray for me that my drone doesnt clip through anything 🥶

[formal badger]

Oh my sweet summer child

[quick hound]

I pray your drone clips.

[fluid sapphire]

how dare you

we have takeoff

[quick hound]

I also pray that all your drones clip

[quick hound]

I’ll take my words back if you give me coffee

[fluid sapphire]

i tried to hitch a ride, lost all my health while still on the drone and died

[quick hound]

I need a lot more than that tiny ass cup.

[quick hound]

I need atleast an industrial fluid buffer full of coffee.

Or I’ll pray that the next time you die you wake up to uranium somewhere under your hub.

[fluid sapphire]

glass frame foundation, its part of the frame foundation set on the awesome shop

[white dawn]

Yeah, it'll be in the "Frame Foundations" set

[fluid sapphire]

they seem to be doing OK, i think for the most part i plan the paths decently

[leaden turret]

I think some stuff doesn't appear unless you've unlocked other tech

it's been a while since I looked at the awesome shop so I'm afraid I don't recall 😅

!wikisearch awesome+shop

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+shop

[fluid sapphire]

its called "structural frame set" - contains a buildable called "glass frame foundation"

#screenshots message

[quick hound]

I desire to consume human flesh.

[fluid sapphire]

you can also use glass roof

i meant you can pretend the roof is a floor variant xd

[livid geyser]

Oops, I haven’t played in two days.

[fluid sapphire]

back to work

(i secretly skipped 3 months of work,dont tell anyone)

[candid marsh]

how dare you? ADA must be really disappointed

[fluid sapphire]

(i was working a different job, delivering cargo)

[livid geyser]

That’s fine, I wanna keep exploring and unlock more recipes because I don’t even know where to start. I got tier 7/8 milestones completed, never touched anything, got lucky with outdoor collection.

[fluid sapphire]

unrelated note, on the topic of "job" games, snowrunner is quite chill

[charred sandal]

Anyone know why snapping pipe junctions in line with inputs on a pipeline only sometimes works?

[fluid sapphire]

would advise against placing junctions on pipes, if you do, you should rebuild the pipes to ensure they are actually connected. or better, just place the junctions first and then build the pipes

[crude ether]

If I have 6 fuel refineries outputting 240 fuel total and I want to turn that into turbofuel, since that would feed 10.6667 turbofuel refinieries, should I put 11, or 10 and 1 storage tank to help with sloshing and prevent them from flicking on and off constantly? I want to make sure my power output is smooth and constant. I guess same question for my fuel generators after that. 11 turbofuel refineries feeds 27.5 fuel generators. is 27 + a storage tank better than 28?

[fluid sapphire]

no, keep buffers out of your systems, they are only useful for buffering train inputs/outputs

just clock your machines accordingly, e.g you can do 10 gens at 100% speed and 1 at 2/3*100 speed

buffers are a recipe for pain

or simply overclock the tenth one

[white dawn]

For the generators, I'd personally have each Turbofuel refinery output the turbofuel directly into the number of fuel gens that output supports, rather than combining them into one pipe

That way you've got little "modules" and far less opportunities for piping weirdness to show up

[fluid sapphire]

for lower amounts i think it works fine like this

[white dawn]

(You could even decide to clock all your machines that way so that you have a 1:1 match between Fuel Refineries and Turbofuel Refineries; just have it go straight through)

[crude ether]

it's also not a round number though, 1:2.5

[white dawn]

Sure, that's what overclocking/underclocking is for. :)

You can generally arrive at whatever numbers you need

[fluid sapphire]

1:2.5 is very nice and round

[candid marsh]

you can make packaged turbo fuel, and put an smart spliter to a sink for the overflow

so you can use that extra fuel and be sure it won't ruin your plant

[fluid sapphire]

thats unnecessarily complicated

[white dawn]

Heh, for this kind of application, IMO, packaging is way overkill. Just use exactly as much as is needed and you won't have to worry about it

[candid marsh]

bruh... it's only adding a constructor and a packager lol

[fluid sapphire]

yeah and what for, when you can just clock accordingly?

it does, fits a lot nicer than foundations

[candid marsh]

meh... it's okay I just have a different point of view. both are equally valid

[fluid sapphire]

its a common problem commonly solved by clocking all across the game, there is no need to engineer a new solution when a perfect one already exists

but sure

[silk ocean]

miss

[crude ether]

ok i think ill underclock 1 turbofuel refinery and fuel generator, but then i end up with 27 fuel generators on a line that technically has the oil to feed 27.5. Muh efficiency

[dense violet]

just have 28 gens but under clock one to consume the right amount

[fluid sapphire]

27 at full speed, 1 at half speed

[dense violet]

do you not actually understand what clocking does?

[ornate saffron]

just clock the last one to the approraite amount to use the remaining fuel

[unkempt blade]

27 at 1.018~ is the way

[fluid sapphire]

dont you get a more inaccurate total that way

[unkempt blade]

but we use one fewer refinery hashtag efficiency!

[fluid sapphire]

and more power shards

#efficiency

[unkempt blade]

I agree, it's better with all the shards

you make an excellent point about another one of its many advantages

[fluid sapphire]

folks in #design-and-architecture might chime in, i am a 90 degree turn and floaties kinda person myself

[ornate saffron]

you could learn to make curves and curve it into position

[unkempt blade]

nope those are only square so your only path to angles is clipped

[crude ether]

ah nvm i got lost in my own math, had it written down as if my 11 refineries would be outputting at 100% even though they wouldnt be which is why im underclocking just to match the input it's getting but nothing is lost anywhere

[fluid sapphire]

i just dont bother personally, its just too much work to make good curves, with some things its downright impossible

#screenshots message

if curve, i go floaty

embrace the 🟦

[unkempt blade]

You could maybe dress up the place where you do the curve though. Build a little structure or something there and just curve the belt inside it?

[fluid sapphire]

there are ways, i am sure you can find some tutorials to make curves if you look

[ornate saffron]

console or pc?

[unkempt blade]

yeah you can make curved but 1) they're clipped 2) you'll mostly likely no longer be using the global grid if you are at the moment

it's also fairly time consuming without mods to make it look decent

I think that last part is almost one of the rites of passage for this game 😆

[wicked nacelle]

Just squint until you can’t tell that it’s not aligned

[gentle lion]

So to stack conveyor belts do you put the stack.parts down then run the belts

[teal geyser]

The conveyor stackable poles you mean?

Yea, the stackable poles first, otherwise you can’t place regular poles on top on belts

[gentle lion]

Ok feels like you should be able stack them whenever lol

[compact flicker]

268 hrs in and just now realising I can make my buildings automatically my chosen material when placing them

[sudden flint]

Handcrafting 104 AI limiters for literally no reason >:)

[wicked nacelle]

anyone willing to load a save file and see if they can reproduce my crash? I linked it in a comment here https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69251f6176b8d85694adcfbb -- it's not dangerous to load a save file but I get if people are hesitant anyhow. but it's a weird crash and I want to see if it's something on my side or not

[compact flicker]

Before I even look at the link, is it the one thats caused by dying in the southern red forest?

[wicked nacelle]

no it hangs the game on completing a vehicle path recording

and then crashes to desktop like 2 minutes later

[compact flicker]

Oh hm
Oki

Gimme a bit

[wicked nacelle]

the savegame is right there near the "finish line" you just drive onto it and see if it says "done" or just goes to 0FPS and hangs -- starts right here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443023701535752233/image.png?ex=6927900c&is=69263e8c&hm=f8e1eccaa295b4bc8f5b72805c37d9a3666ab56f6eff2bc224a0de568793d655& and it doesn't matter which side you approach the finish line from. I think the "location" of the blueprint it's on is futzed -- it built REALLY weird (also in the qa ticket)

weekly reminder for people on PC if you hold alt right when the game starts loading it skips the warning screens 🙂

[sudden flint]

huh

useful, although I'll probably never use it

[wicked nacelle]

it's more useful when you're dealing with a crash bug 🙂

yeah, this can't be good: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443025313733935164/image.png?ex=6927918c&is=6926400c&hm=7073c7922cab4a0c7df5988461a825cb2823e6aba9417b67c0834627cbb6b7c6& -- that's not a hologram. That's where it's trying to put it

[compact flicker]

Taking a look at this, and then re reading exactly what you said (misread the first time), I would like to apologize, as I misunderstood 😭

I cant load that save >:

Sry

[glass pagoda]

Lalala

[wicked nacelle]

oh okay

[glass pagoda]

What up

[merry granite]

I just saw in an old video the game used to have a 1 foundation sized staircase like one that goes forward then turns around, that seems useful why is that not in the game anymore

Theres catwalks but they take up alot more space

[wicked nacelle]

it's not in the shop?

[unkempt blade]

it wasn't factory cart compatible so they replaced it with ramps to make the factory more vehicle accessible

[wicked nacelle]

I don't use interior architecutre stuff... so I don't know but if you'r enot seeing it make sure you've unlocked everything

[wicked nacelle]

you can kind of build your own https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443027161148690502/image.png?ex=69279345&is=692641c5&hm=2d2dd41df3abac8a71ab399ad29452b3e73019e2865dc30b79980b928c14fb34&

that fits on a standard foundation

[compact flicker]

Where do yall have your HUB at? :3

[white dawn]

Catwalks do take up more space than the old "stairs" buildable, but they're a million times more flexible; the devs ended up deciding they just didn't like those original ones

[merry granite]

Thanks guys 👍

[white dawn]

You can get the catwalks to be pretty compact, at least. I don't think there's a way to make a usable spiral in just a foundation but can be done in 1.5

[leaden turret]

-# if i fits i sits

[leaden turret]

1.5?

[white dawn]

8m x 12m (ground-footprintwise) :)

[leaden turret]

would suggest 1.5x when referring to fractional multiples to avoid people panicing and thinking they skipped a bunch of versions 😛

[white dawn]

oh, hah

Satisfactory 1.5: The Slightly More Compact Catwalks Patch

We'll know if CSS's creativity well is running dry if we start getting exciting updates like that. :D

[leaden turret]

Satisfactory 2: SatisEscherty

non-euclidean factories

[gleaming wedge]

Greetings, Pioneers.

[ornate saffron]

greetings

[zenith pecan]

👋

[coral glacier]

Hello There

[frail sleet]

16 btw (2 foundations exactly)

[wicked nacelle]

is curvebuilder vanilla friendly? -- apparently yes https://ficsit.app/mod/CurveBuilder

[white dawn]

Factories on the hyperbolic plane?

[leaden turret]

Mk.2 portals you can run belts through

or actual hyperbolicness

[wicked nacelle]

Vanilla friendly means if the mod breaks you can keep playing your save -- just without the ability to use the mod. NOT vanilla friendly means if the mod breaks you can't use your save until the mod is updated.

basically if a mod introduces new buildings, for example. it's not vanilla friendly. But if it's just a quality of life improvement for placing buildings/foundations (like curve builder) but then once it's built it's just the normal stuff. That's vanilla friendly

or a "super jetpack" would be vanilla friendly. You could still play your game you just wouldn't get whatever flying power the super jetpack gave you.

it's dangerous to play with a mod that's not vanilla friendly because you might lose your world at any update and the mod might never get updated.

on the mod page it's tagged with vanilla-friendly

[buoyant heath]

Are there specific locations to go to for hard drive recipes, or is it luck of the draw for the recipes?

[wicked nacelle]

100% random -- if you want to save scum you save right before you reroll and reroll and if you don't like them reload and re-reroll

[buoyant heath]

Hell. Welp time to mass gather hard drives lol

[wicked nacelle]

of course you can also just go unlock them in SCIM or advanced game mode (but that latter disables cheevies)

[buoyant heath]

I'm trying to get the stitched iron plate recipe cause holy man the default reinforced plates are demanding! 😂

Makes the space elevator missions brutal! Lol

[wicked nacelle]

Also, if you're looking for a specific recipe or two -- DON'T pick a recipe when the hard drive finishes. That will lock out both those recipes from your next HDD research results

don't pick it unless it's the one you want, I mean

if you pick one, the other one goes back into the pool and your next hard drive might show up with it again

[buoyant heath]

Ah okie dokie

[ocean frost]

the pool of recipes is also smaller at if you wait to progress to the next milestone

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you won't get alts for stuff you haven't gotten to the phase for

and if you want the inventory upgrade ones get those early -- they're deprioritized compared to alt recipes -- like lower random chance than any given recipe -- there's 2 of them for 6 slots each

[wicked nacelle]

gill you on pc? You willing to load a save game to try something for me please?

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69251f6176b8d85694adcfbb

[buoyant heath]

Ah well it shouldn't take too too long then to try to get the plate recipe I want. I'm only like stage 3 an phase 2

[wicked nacelle]

yep. but be prepared to find crashed freighters that youc an't open 🙁

[leaden turret]

if you gonna cheat, just cheat

[rapid moat]

question, you need make the material to start get the alt recipes? or only need unlock it?

[leaden turret]

some recipes are gated behind prerequisites, yes

I keep forgetting to check, but at one point you could unlock pure ingots before you could make refineries

[wicked nacelle]

I don't understand your question but you just need to build a mam and do a hard drive research and it will give you two options that are for things you can build now

[wicked nacelle]

maybe it's by phase and technically you could be in the phase for refineries but not have researched oil produiction yet?

that's just a guess

[cyan cloak]

Bouta play for the first time yall

[wicked nacelle]

you're screwed - hope you don't like sleep

[leaden turret]

it might be that, or it might be something even goofier

[cyan cloak]

prob its ok

[leaden turret]

set an alarm so you don't forget to poop

[cyan cloak]

I just did ironically

[wicked nacelle]

could be they hand classified them and did it wrong

[leaden turret]

checks wiki

[buoyant heath]

Don't you need to power them?

[wicked nacelle]

some need nothing. some need power. some need items

[leaden turret]

yeah, currently unlocked by tier 5 - oil processing

[cyan cloak]

Is this game anything like space engineers

[wicked nacelle]

item type is fixed per frieghter on the map and item type tier has items from all phases of the game

[wicked nacelle]

no. I mean not really at all. Aspects sure. but a MASSIVE focus on just building a factory

[leaden turret]

abandoned trashfire says it used to be unlocked alongside coalpower

[cyan cloak]

anybody tryna call and hop on multiplayer

Imma need hella help

[ocean frost]

what do u need

[wicked nacelle]

you on console or pc?

[ocean frost]

what do u need jelp with

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758

[cyan cloak]

pc

[quartz blade]

Hi! I am starting the game for the very first time today (right now) on PS5.

Does anyone have any helpful tips for a first timer?

[craggy vector]

How much better is it to have a organized factory over spaghetti hell? I wouldn’t say I’m let’s game it out level but it’s very very messy

[rapid moat]

I mean, I'm looking for the recipe for turbo heavy fuel, but I've only unlocked turbo fuel, I haven't made any yet.

[buoyant heath]

Ah that's not bad then

[wicked nacelle]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69251f6176b8d85694adcfbb there's a save file linked in there. Just open it jump in the truck that's right there and complete the vehicle path recording

and see if your game hangs -- it may take multiple minutes before it actually crashes but you can always close the game with task manager or just "close" button on steam

[leaden turret]

compare:

• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett
• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=lasagn

[ocean frost]

crashes my game too

[wicked nacelle]

does it just hang for a bit? or straight CTD

[ocean frost]

its froxen

[wicked nacelle]

if you have a moment

wait for it to CTD and see if the error message is the same? and if you wanted to post that you had the same crash on the ticket, that woul dbe awesome

like I said it may take 1-3 minutes (I don't remember it felt like a long time)

[fallow vector]

I'm rebuilding my base... opened up a piece of floor...
Surprise iron node

[pine patrol]

just made 800 concrete a min factory 😀

Only 1 pure node

Prob the most efficiant thing i have made in my entire playthrough 😭

[ocean frost]

It closed no crash report for me

[wicked nacelle]

weird okay. well if you have a login can you just vote on it and confirm repro? 🙂 Thank you

[ocean frost]

i downvoted it?

[wicked nacelle]

perfect!

[hasty cairn]

Wet concrete or plain limestone? 👀

[wicked nacelle]

the number says the recipe, presumably -- 800/1200

wet concrete is 8:12

[dawn kelp]

wooooootage! 1000 science per minute achieved. Next goal, 10k

[quick hound]

but.. isn’t that just concrete about to get set?

[wicked nacelle]

Water in this game is essentially magic. Add water to anything and get more

Imagine subnautica if it had satisfactory water. You’d have infinite everything

[remote cedar]

Yeah thats why I said that cause he was the one who told me the fix haha

[true mulch]

science per minute? in this game?

[true mulch]

infinite fish is not good enough for you?

[dawn kelp]

Yus, I just got the biolabs, so science is finally worth expanding in full

[true mulch]

biolabs? in this game?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think there are infinite fish in that game -- just a lot unless you breed them

[dawn kelp]

I love infinise fish, working on that now

But I also want drones that fly from one end of the base to the other on a half a charge XD

[true mulch]

they are infinite in Subnautica

not naturally in the flat game though

[dawn kelp]

I'm stockpiling spoilage for making food for fish right now

[true mulch]

spoilage? in this game?

I'm still having nightmares from Gleba

[dawn kelp]

I have nightmares on Gleba often too

But I also use drones

Right now I'm making epic everything to go to Aquilo

[quick hound]

can it get me some bitches?

[dawn kelp]

special buildings are magic, automatic extra product for every two made is awesome

[wicked nacelle]

maybe some hens

[dawn kelp]

Nice, a little adjustment to biolab layout, now we're doing 1200 per minute

[quick hound]

I snorted some petroleum coke

[hasty cairn]

I can't even tell which game we're talking about anymore 🙃

[dawn kelp]

1200 is now 2000

Just BARELY supplying enough to keep it 2k though. Need to do alot of infrastructure reinforcing

[merry granite]

Just need another aquarium and ill be at 120 fish per minute

[glass pagoda]

Fuck

[robust brook]

What

[glossy flare]

do those artifacts have a use yet? been a while since i played

[merry granite]

Im trying to make reinforced plated ethereum rods

[primal obsidian]

what

[merry granite]

and you need calcium from fishbones for that

[primal obsidian]

???

[merry granite]

You get fishbones from smelting fish

[ocean frost]

Yes, it's in the wiki

[quick hound]

GIVE ME COFFEEEEEEEE

[primal obsidian]

huh

[quick hound]

GIVE. ME. COFFEEEEEEEEEEE

[primal obsidian]

how much does mk.4 transport

[hasty cairn]

To excite but not spoil... The alien artifacts grant you access to alien technology. That's what it's called in the appropriate MAM research tree. To progress, though, you need to find SAM because that is a prereq for everything else. And there is a LOT less of that commonly spread around than there are Mercer Spheres or Somersloops, so don't feel bad if you need to use the wiki. Just, check every rock face you find for caves

[quick hound]

480 r/m, for belts.

now give me coffee for that info

[quick hound]

Don’t eat sloops. you will be turned into the human equivalent of a rocket

[primal obsidian]

im sick so i cant sleep very sad

but more satisfactory though

[quick hound]

GIVE ME COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[primal obsidian]

so silver lining i guess

ok half of the control rods factory is done the AI limiter part is good

now for the stators

[quick hound]

I gave you info, now GIVE ME COFFEE

IONN RHO IN TRHNKO R THIN O THRJLN. NJKR THJN KHR TO HI THRJNL. HTRJNL. TRH YKN L

[primal obsidian]

my truck ran out of fuel now there is a backlog of 100000+ nuclear waste on this multiplayer server

[gentle lion]

That looks amazing , maybe I can be that good one day lol

Sadly I'm on ps5

[dense ingot]

A random question. Some people on consoles seem to believe that you can use uranium or plutonium waste to make the nuclear spaghetti part for phase 4, but the wiki makes zero mention of this. Is the wiki wrong and are those people correct or are those people incorrect and the wiki is right?

[compact flicker]

That is incorrect

[reef basin]

not wiki

[dense ingot]

???

[compact flicker]

Its pressure conversion cubes and copper powder, nothing radioactive is involved at any point

There are also no alternate recipes

[dense ingot]

That's what I thought, but a lot of people seem convinced that there's something that you can do with uranium or plutonium waste for this, and I haven't gotten far enough to know one way or the other, so I'm going purely off the wiki. So I was just confirming that the wiki is, in fact, correct, and these people are entirely off the rocker.

[gentle lion]

I did find a sulfer and SAM node today on my travels

[compact flicker]

Yeah idk what they're on about

Maybe they're saying nuclear power is needed to make them due to the high power needs of the machine?

[hasty cairn]

When I try to explain this game to my friends I am like "think STALKER's Zone with the artifacts and monsters, but the aliens won, everyone is dead, and you only survived because ChatGPT as emotional support coach"

[dense ingot]

No they seem convinced you can deal with the waste created from nuclear power without needing to either just throw plutonium-fuel rods in the sink or make fisconium.

[gentle lion]

I did a few of the SAM got the Quantum box thing but can't build it yet 😂

[reef basin]

if you ever suggest chatgpt or any other AI for playing this game, you should burn in hell

[shrewd palm]

chatgpt is ada from hell and its evil too

[compact flicker]

The only planet we should be abusing is the one in SatisFactory. Dont use AI :3

[gentle lion]

So the dimensial depot is basically just extra storage you can access from anywhere

[shy fog]

or build with

[reef basin]

it's a replacement for central storages basically

[dense ingot]

Also, crafting recipes and the builder tool will pull from its inventory.

[gentle lion]

Oh nice I'll build one tomorrow

So Mercer spheres are only used in the MAM ?

[fluid sapphire]

They are used to build depot uploaders

[gentle lion]

Still learning didn't know if they had other uses

I've only found like 4 if them

[fluid sapphire]

Hardly cheaty, intended, balanced mechanic

[gentle lion]

I did build an elevator today lol

I need to sink more stuff

[ocean frost]

More like makes the game less tedious though slooping DNA and slugs is a little crazy

[gentle lion]

I found a caterium node today also didn't route it back to base yet

How do you get the doggos

So when I found random parts in an area that was a doggo nest?

[ocean frost]

You mean the cave

[gentle lion]

Yeah

[ocean frost]

Yep

[reef basin]

build near it instead

[ocean frost]

Also you don't be holding a weapon

[gentle lion]

I have some berrys now I know what to use them for

[ocean frost]

Place them on the floor near a doggo

After they eat them pat them

[gentle lion]

Not sure what to make beside ingots

[abstract heron]

what

[reef basin]

well build near resources you need 🙂 so choose what you want to make and build near those resources that are needed for that chain

[ocean frost]

Quick wire and sink it till you need it

[gentle lion]

My setup fir resources would give you a heart attack lol

[gentle lion]

I'll check that tomorrow as well

[ocean frost]

The ingots are super easy to transport to where you need them also 🙂

[gentle lion]

By which manner of transportation

[ocean frost]

Belts, trucks trains, drones

[icy jetty]

fun fact, you can hold Ctrl on a splitter in front of a miner to get it to at the very least, point in the exact direction. not exact height, but it'll at least point at the same angle.

[ocean frost]

You can use foundations for height

[icy jetty]

we need a dismantle option that says "delete all the stuff on the belts and inside the buffers". i don't want my inventory filled.

[gentle lion]

I haven't tried a truck yet , do you prefer to use the built in roads or lay foundation for them

I also just realized there was crouching and sliding today lol

[abstract heron]

Should i build like 252 Reactors 😛

Snutt streamed eariler today maxeek

[ocean frost]

Honestly I would avoid trucks they take a lot of love to work

[native tapir]

Snutt who? The one who couldn't beat level 3 on the tower? Pfffft

[ocean frost]

SCIM has an option to show you natural roads in the game

[abstract heron]

Snutt before he resgined same with jace

bruh nuclear reactors bring up uobject quick or ish

[gentle lion]

Yeah I built over a bunch of them without realizing I assume foundations work just as well

[native tapir]

Yea same

[gentle lion]

I did build almost a 1500 m conveyor lol

[icy jetty]

i wish we had >60gram 4-6 button thumb/MMO mice.

[abstract heron]

@unborn gyro

[native tapir]

I love Jason and Mikael. But as an aside, MAN Snutt knows how to stream.

I didn't know what good streaming was until I saw

[abstract heron]

also jace before

i joined when update 3 happening

NICE!

[ocean frost]

I spelt snnutt wrong :/

[abstract heron]

i might tell guru that the Nuclear fuel gens are going up upbject

[solemn glacier]

you know most websites dont do gigabit

[abstract heron]

and yes i have mods which makes it buffer nuclear for 25k MW

instead of 2500

[solemn glacier]

im on 10 yo hardware too

[gentle lion]

I just looked at wiki I need to do as much caterium research as I can tomorrow

[lunar python]

why's that

[gentle lion]

Zip line ...lol

Also stun rebar power poles Mk 2 and 3

And smart splitter so I can figure that out.

Found a new helmet in a cave today also , are there a lot of helmets to be found?

[merry granite]

how do i play satisfactory pc on controller

ive launched it up with an xbox controller connected and it doesnt do anything

if you have to know i pinched a nerve in my neck and i have to play in bed

do i have to enable it in settings or something

[white dawn]

Not many, no

(I actually don't even remember if there's more than the one)

[lunar python]

probably use a controller for everything

[gentle lion]

Yep lol

I have severe chronic pain Almost 24/7 satisfactory doesn't help 😂

Are you old enough to have had an Atari 2600 brand new when you were little lol

It's a struggle but oh well gotta have fun

True

Also are there quartz nodes ? Or just the small patches

I need a controller for arthritis

[white dawn]

Yep, there are quartz nodes that regular miners can be placed on

[gentle lion]

Getting kb mouse on ps5 is weird lol

[abstract heron]

I am hoping soon we can get ficmas 2025

[quick hound]

new SF challenge idea: portable miners only (it’s gonna suck haha)

[icy jetty]

sigh...another day another stupid ahh issue with the BP system

this time, it auto places a BP i used when i click it, instead of waiting for me to place it. which is a problem because i'm trying to shift it's position

-also, devs need to allow us to shift the position of a BP within the BP Builder without taking it apart

[gentle lion]

#screenshots message

Long walk to quartz lol

[abstract heron]

its going to be same older due to consoles just bug fixes and new calender probbaly

[quick hound]

can you give me some? I like how crunch it is, it tastes like cotton candy

[icy jetty]

the letters DD or good kind of double d's ?

[quick hound]

Hey max, can you give me some coffee?

Give me coffee now!

I’m addicted because I have severe insomnia (irl too)

??

I’m way more than a screw up. I’m a degenerate, suicidal, prick.

Do you manipulate every single person you meet irl?

Man, I know it’s stupid but I’m more honest online than I ever have been in real life.

Oh yeah, definitely.

I blocked him so fast after he snitched on me once

[abstract heron]

i am waiting for the post about ficmas etc etc for consoles and how that will work

[quick hound]

Marv is an annoying, sensitive~ [if I keep on going I’ll most certainly get banned or muted]

[abstract heron]

I am in the spirt for Ficmas

[quick hound]

Facist Christmas?

[abstract heron]

Ficmas is a holiday in game event Which starts on Monday

[quick hound]

Facist Christmas is real and in satis??

[abstract heron]

huh?

[ocean frost]

For a moment I thought you were talking to yourself

[coral glacier]

Hey, don't be so hard on yourself bud

[brazen coral]

Is the steel screws recipe better than the regular? Or at least better to have production wise

I feel like it should be quite a bit better cuz it says 260 per minute

I actually do have cast screws so hang on

Yeah it says only 50 per minute of 20 screws

Yikes! The cycle time is 24 seconds though

[ocean frost]

You just need so many of them

[brazen coral]

Fr

[ocean frost]

Rods into screws

[brazen coral]

I just kind of had trouble making motors right now so that's going to help speed up the process cuz I needed a lot of rotors to make the motors

And so on and so on

[ocean frost]

Using the alt for rotor helps heaps

Just poles and wire baby

[brazen coral]

Right now I have either the steel rotor or the copper rotor

[ocean frost]

Steel rotor is what I use most of the time

[brazen coral]

Hey, if that's the case, I don't need to take the recipe for the steel screws yet

[ocean frost]

Do what brings you joy

[brazen coral]

Just building up an inventory of hard drives

I'm pretty sure I only get recipes for what's available during the phase, correct?

[whole drum]

I misread this as "mortars," and it hits a little different like that...

[brazen coral]

Lol

[ocean frost]

Having the hard drive scanner so deep in the mam doesn't help either

[brazen coral]

I mean eventually you get all alternate recipes. It's just a matter of time.... Loading and resetting for the good ones at least

I did happen to find the turbo heavy fuel if that's something to mess with

[whole drum]

So the light control has an input that connects to the rest of the grid, and outputs that connect only to your lighting system. Did you configure them correctly this way?

[Closed circuit lighting network] --> Switch --> [Rest of power grid]

[brazen coral]

I just happen to use signs and use a one of the preset colors with no background, increase the brightness and permanent lights 🤠

[whole drum]

Good

[brazen coral]

Really easy work around without having to configure lights or at least hook them all up

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1443130650617057331

I built that with the medium size billboards

In a friend's game 🙂

[silk ocean]

DOOM: The Dark Ages is -50% in this Black Friday week.. tempted xD

Quake was where it's at xD

3dfx xD

Yea, maker of Unreal

Tim Sweeney and John Carmack -- two of my legends xD

Tim of course wrote Unreal, which became Satisfactory... eventually xD

Blast from the past xD

[merry granite]

might aswell thank tim sweeneys mum while your at it

who hates on ue?

UE is an industry leader

[silk ocean]

You can play Unreal on Steam, if you want a trip down memory lane

I'm probably too old to remember original Unreal (the game) xD

1980s kid.. Early 80s xD

For sure xD

[flint grail]

Ok, someone explain this:

• Place a path signal down
  Signal works fine

• Remove the path signal and place it down again in the same spot:
  "Signal loops into itself"

[merry granite]

butterfly effect

[silk ocean]

Unreal started something magic... Epic Games, which evolved and made this wonderful game.. Satisfactory

[flint grail]

?

[cunning lily]

Man, this game. Tinkering with my first blueprints to build my first properly tidy large factory w/ Mk4 logistics and Mk2 extractors. Fingers crossed all my planning numbers worked out.

Im sure mine is small w/ 16 smelters, 3 foundries, 47 constructors, 9 assemblers compared to some of what I have seen. Just a rebuild of my grasslands starting factory.

How do you folks plan a large factory build?

[flint grail]

I would agree, if I didn't constantly have issues with this game

[flint grail]

I've been able to fit all the basic materials from iron, copper, and limestone into 14x17 factory with two floors for production, and one for shipping

[normal arch]

Guys, do you know the best way to finish phase 3 using temporary structures quickly?

[whole drum]

Kind of just answered your own question

You should automate all the components you can build that are not project parts. Whether you automate PPs or not is pure preference

[brazen coral]

I would also recommend slooping the more complex parts or at least the parts that take longer to make

[icy jetty]

this game really needs either a save&quit menu option, or a quicksave button

[merry granite]

thatd be nice

i usually do the ol 'aaewaewaeawerwaeawewa' for my save names

[icy jetty]

it's really weird that it doesn't exist already, it makes me question if the devs play their own game

this is just PC games 101 stuff

[whole drum]

I think the Autosave works "well enough" for most cases. Yeah, you would expect that most PC games (that aren't live service) should have Quick Save, but there aren't a ton of things I think it would be needed for in SF. I would like it if they added it, but I'm not worried about its absence.

[icy jetty]

you need it everytime you quit game. currently i have to save, pick the save, hit save before i can leave without losing progress. i wanna be able to just quit game and not worry about losing progress

[whole drum]

Oh, lol... I mean, that's fair to a point.
I've always had the policy of doing a hard save before exit because other games' poor save structures have been unreliable, so I wouldn't trust a quick/auto save beyond "if the game crashed."

And Qsave in particular is more of a save scum tool than anything else imo

[wicked nacelle]

I assume it's a floating point error and the math is done slightly differently at load time vs creation time. I've seen people suggest reloading the game to fix the bug

[hard stump]

X-491 y 2434 is where I’m at what won the coordinates for the closest Sam node be? I don’t know if it’s my phone or what but the interactive map does not work at all for me. I’m on Xbox

[hard ivy]

-240/2700 in a cave/ravine

[hard stump]

I’ll try to head there now thank you

[hard ivy]

Alternatively -480/1290 on a mountaintop

[reef basin]

run a local dedi server 🙂

[hard stump]

Just found it thank you so much

[odd fox]

Is the vertical build mode new or have i just never seen it?

[void cliff]

Vertical nudge? Vertical splitters?

[odd fox]

Like vertical building

like splitters and floors

[void cliff]

Vertical zoop- it’s been in the game as long as I’ve played it, since 1.0

[hard ivy]

The game has had 3 dimensions since release?

[odd fox]

i meant like building modes

I always only noticed zoop and default

And now theres a vertical option

[hard ivy]

Vertical zoop for foundations/walls has probably been a thing since horizontal zoop

Yeah, both have been in the game since U5

[odd fox]

Oh alright

Also is there a way to default my power lines to mk 3?

When i create them using the power line

[void cliff]

It will be Mk3 if connecting power line to a mk3

[odd fox]

So no way to default it though so when i create the power poles using the power line tool

Directly from a machine?

[hard ivy]

Yeah, if you start the connection from a mk3, the pole will be mk3

[void cliff]

Don’t think so, nope

[hard ivy]

From a machine it defaults to mk1

[odd fox]

Alright thanks

[hard ivy]

But you can just drag a mk1 and then upgrade it to mk3

It's not that much slower

[odd fox]

Yea thats what ive been doing]

[void cliff]

There’s a button to upgrade to higher mk equipment when placing it but I don’t think it works with the wire

[whole drum]

Yeah, on PC you can middle mouse the pole, tap E to cycle through the variants you have available, then just click to replace it

From there, just connect the power lines from that pole

[odd fox]

Oh i didnt know that, ive got it in my hotbar and im just hovering over

[whole drum]

You can also just hotkey the mk3 poles, replace the default mk1

[hasty tulip]

It would be really funny if there was satisfactory vr, just throwing nuclear dynamite or whatever they are at a spider with full hatred

[hard ivy]

There is a VR mod for SF

Not sure if it is updated, though

[hasty tulip]

nice, my vr would explode like the nukes in satisfactory if I tried to play that mod

[prisma hazel]

anyone else find it difficult to keep factories nice and neat later in game

[whole drum]

I find the early game is harder to do that because I don't have the tools to manage my logistics yet

[prisma hazel]

what i mean specifically is the recipes are no longer even input/outputs, things requiring 3.75 of something etc

[whole drum]

Oh, yeah. You have to work out ratios that make sense

Or adjust the clock speed to simplify it

[prisma hazel]

just cannibalised my computer factory to make some supercomputers and its a little hard on the eyes ahaha, i DO NOT want to remake the computer factory agian...

i get tremendous burn out and hitting aluminium+ is the proverbial straw

[reef basin]

you have clock speed, you can make it any output/input you want

[scenic crow]

How the hell do you make anything look good in this game without just making things blocks like Minecraft

[reef basin]

(but also, you just make 3.75 if something needs 3.75)

[whole drum]

spongebob-imagination.gif

[open swallow]

Use the scroll wheel to create angles

Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwyyYpe0c4

[leaden turret]

🥽

[fallow vector]

I just had another wild thought because the map is almost surrounded by water.
What if...cargo ships?

[reef basin]

devs said no

[fallow vector]

aw man

[reef basin]

while there's a lot of water, there's not really much water in the direction where you want to transport resources

[fallow vector]

and the riverbeds are too shallow for small cargoships... sadly

[hasty cairn]

Hovercraft tho

[reef basin]

that's drone

[hybrid nymph]

I just started replaying satisfactory this week

This time I'm doing it with my buddies. We're doing it with 4 people

I figured out how to be more efficient as this is my fourth playthrough of the game

[hasty cairn]

😃

Congrats to you! Enjoy the new alien artifacts

[fluid sapphire]

embrace the 🟦

[hasty cairn]

Use the AWESOME shop's asethetic design aids! Put lines on your foundations to denote zones. Switch from base metal to concrete or asphalt foundations (asphalt is great for roads). Use an elevator to access different floors of your factory instead of ladders.

Oh, and put signs on everything. I love having labels on storage containers to denote what's in them for my mall

[reef basin]

or just use depots and no need for signs 🙂

[fallow vector]

And layer stuff

[whole drum]

If you're using a mall for the love of the game, fair enough. Otherwise, you can easily phase them out by about tier 4 (or earlier).

[hybrid nymph]

I just reached tier 5 and 6. For only putting in 25 hours, that's not half bad. As you know you have a starting factory, And then as you progress the game you upgrade it. So, I am going to upgrade my starting factory so that I can Make it look nice and have a great factory aesthetic for the game. I just unlocked a bunch of new building parts in the awesome shop, so I am excited to use them

It only took me 5 days to reach tier 5 and 6.

[hasty cairn]

It's taking me a while longer because I like to explore a whole lot, and don't spend as long designing my factory. I will be doing just that, soon, though, now that I've found crude oil

[whole drum]

Finding SAM will change your life

[hybrid nymph]

I do know that now that I'm on tier 5, I'm about to unlock the gas turbine, And I know that it's going to make my coal generators useless. A cold generator unoverclocked generates 75 megawatts, a fully overclocked fuel generator generates 625 megawatts. The only reason to overclock coal generators is to make it so the generator produces more power per unit, basically it just saves space. But the amount of water that it takes is absolutely ridiculous.

[hasty cairn]

Just like in Factorio, managing the byproducts is actual hell 😅 except here, at least we have the AWESOME sink to help with that

[hybrid nymph]

Exactly! The AWESOME sink

[hasty cairn]

Though in the Space Age expansion of Factorio we did get the ability to jettison unwanted goods into space, so that can be automated now at least

[hybrid nymph]

Question? Is there any reason to overclock coal generators, other than saving space?

[hasty cairn]

That itself is a pretty good reason. Coal generators are fat.

[whole drum]

The generators don't require water--only the refineries (with certain recipes).

The fuel gens, that is

[hybrid nymph]

I know, gas turbines don't require water

[reef basin]

no not really

[hybrid nymph]

That's what I thought

I am aware that overclocking a coal generator makes it produce 187 megawatts

[hasty cairn]

I overclock mine anyway because it's my main power source until gas. One gen per water extractor, everything goes near water

[hybrid nymph]

But the amount of power you get for the amount of power slugs you use is just not worth it

Especially with how cheap each coal generator is

Three water extractors will run six coal generators

[hard ivy]

3 will run 8

[whole drum]

I don't generally like to OC generators. I'd rather use the shards on other production where it simplifies the process chain.

[hasty cairn]

Coal is there to be the backup plan, and reduce reliance on oil resources for fuel so you don't need to put as much oil into other things

[hybrid nymph]

What are you talking about? The pipelines only have a maximum transfer rate of 300 cubic meters per minute?

[hasty cairn]

Pipelines go faster if you use gravity tho

[whole drum]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[hasty cairn]

If water is flowing downwards into the inputs it is faster. It doesn't behave neatly like belts do

[hybrid nymph]

You can only run six generators off of one pipeline

Oh 😯

[whole drum]

If you feed the pipe further down the chain, it can run more

[hard ivy]

The generators don't consume more than 300 each, nor do the extractors produce more than 300 each, so pipe limits are irrelevant. If one is not enough, use more

[hasty cairn]

This is also why buffers work, because they build up water pressure to push water further up

[hybrid nymph]

Besides, I think having more generators just looks cool 😎

[honest gust]

Question: when I'm making a rail junction, does the way that the switch is facing matter at all? It seems like it's facing the opposite direction to what I intend but I don't know how to get it to face the other way.

[hybrid nymph]

I used to overclock my coal generators, But then I realized how many power slugs it uses and it's absolutely insane

[whole drum]

Only if they have sufficient headlift, and only while full

[hybrid nymph]

I got no clue @honest gust I don't know how train signals work

[hasty cairn]

Revan, overclock the coal until you can overclock the fuel, then go back for the coal and put it in the fuel, ez

[green fiber]

The switch doesnt matter for automated trains really

[hybrid nymph]

Okay 👍👌

I'm using compacted coal for my generators by the way.

I'm producing a lot of compacted coal

I have watched like six tutorials on how to train signals work, could not figure it out for the life of me

Okay, sounds good 👍

I'm currently producing 1200 Megawatts solely off of coal generators

[unkempt blade]

What helped me a lot after some youtube tutorials was making a practice save with (the at-time mod equivalents) of AGS stuff enabled so I could make some little examples and get some faster feedback if they worked than normal

[hybrid nymph]

I see, I'm just going to find someone here in the server that knows how train signals work and have them set it up for me. Because it makes no sense to me

I got a guy that knows how they work

[unkempt blade]

Once it clicks they're pretty easy to use. Just need to get over the hill 😄

[feral dragon]

Anyone know what this means? My game crashes every 10 mins

`Version: 455399, IsEditor: No, IsPerforceBuild: No, BuildConfiguration: Shipping, Launcher: Steam, NetMode: Standalone, IsUsingMods: No, IsSaveGameEdited: No

Assertion failed: !"Enclosing block should never be called" [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\Materials\MaterialShared.cpp] [Line: 5134]`

[whole drum]

Check out #1038092680493801533 -- There are many topics on that subject.

[honest gust]

lmao I'm an idiot. The switch faces the direction of the split because that's the only side from which it can do anything, so of course it doesn't matter which way it's facing

[fluid sapphire]

you can ignore it entirely, i am pretty sure i have some switches around that are facing the wrong way, as stated before, for automated trains it doesnt matter literally at all

[honest gust]

right that's what I'm saying. it's only possible to face one way so of course it doesn't matter

[tall rune]

Hey quick question, when a smart splitter is placed vertically which way is left and which way is right?

[honest gust]

one of the sides is colored, which is the input side. Facing that side, the output on your left will be left and the other will be right

[tall rune]

ty

[primal obsidian]

is it more efficient to use iron pipe and iron wire for stators?

or should I belt in coal from somewhere else i have 2600 ingots/min and need to make 96 stators:min

[quick hound]

🎶 Everybody needs a Thneed, a fine thing that all people need🎶

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac if that's from 2003, is that your dad in the video?

[whole drum]

It might be more convenient, but it's less material efficient. Just depends on what your priorities/needs are.

[leaden turret]

TIL CSS has smeg in the kitchen

[quick hound]

Mocha! I was very busy yesterday and covered the sand desert area with a ton of foundations, can I have coffee?

[vocal wasp]

hey is anyone here available to play, im new

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758

[vocal wasp]

ok

[hasty cairn]

How about copper alloy ingots into wire for stators instead?

[quick hound]

PLEZ I NEED COFFEE

[umbral flame]

how do i unlock ability to scan mercer spheres

[whole drum]

Find one and research it in the MAM

[umbral flame]

ive done that and more but still cant, or just dont know how, do i just hold V or is there something added for something lke that

[whole drum]

You need to build an Object Scanner

[unkempt blade]

Excellent! That's a lot of space for another train factory!

[abstract heron]

Hello jason!

[obsidian zodiac]

My dad was 43 in 2003

[leaden turret]

how old were you in 2003?

[obsidian zodiac]

5

[glad quest]

-3

[abstract heron]

Jason quick questions are u peeps going to show off ficmas calender soon and will there be a blog on it and will there be bug fixes on it?

[leaden turret]

dad looks good for 43 / older brother then 😛

[abstract heron]

Ficmas starts on monday

[obsidian zodiac]

Next upload 🙂

[leaden turret]

have y'all ever made physical advent calendars with the art for just in the office?

[abstract heron]

AND are there going to be any NEW content or is not minus little due to bug fixes and such due to consoles

[obsidian zodiac]

Largely the same as last year, but more to share in our next video!

[abstract heron]

😮

[obsidian zodiac]

Not that I’m aware, that’s a fun idea tho!

[abstract heron]

Minus NEW calender and probbaly bug fixes 🙂

[leaden turret]

ficsmas bonuses for everyone

[quick hound]

hell no, it’s for a ficsonium factory

[unkempt blade]

take my money (and give me chocolate from a cardboard decoration)!

[unkempt blade]

powered by tractors?!?!

[glad quest]

can a drone take 1k items pmn

[quick hound]

NO.

STOP.

CEASE

[unkempt blade]

Maybe if it's a shorter route and a decently high stack size item. Not really sure where the line would be

[glad quest]

raw bauxite

so its what 100 stake size on a 2 min round trip or so

[unkempt blade]

I'd guess not since that should be stack size 100

[fluid sapphire]

you would need a lot of drones and ports for that

and fuel

a lot

[unkempt blade]

you'd have a little under 2min for takeoff and landing + a 1 min one way route so you'd be ballpark of like 300/min

[glad quest]

ive got 2 drones atm

ill test throughput soon

[unkempt blade]

the only ore I've ever really used them for is uranium and those are all relatively low quantity nodes

[glad quest]

its at the top of a mountain and i dont want to belt it lmfao

[lunar python]

steak 🤤

[glad quest]

will increasing stacksize increase transfer rate

[cunning lily]

Amazing. I wonder if I could be that efficient too. Thanks for an interesting benchmark to aim at. 👍🍻

[umbral sleet]

Why is it that i can never make rotors without a byproduct of spaghetti

[leaden turret]

now says 1998

[unkempt blade]

I think you just have a gift for beautiful architecture and you feel compelled to share it with the world

[uncut coyote]

Because the spaghetti is eternal

[glad quest]

is it bad to package water then unpackage it as i dont like pipes

[hasty dragon]

Can't sink spaghetti, clogs the drain.

[fluid sapphire]

if its stupid but it works and you want to do it, do it

[hasty dragon]

packaged liquids are there for a reason, to give us the option to do whatever we wanna do

[primal obsidian]

uhh yeah I think I should do that since I just realized there’s an unused refinery someone built outputting 2600 iron ingots/min so I’m gonna use that

[glad quest]

it was like 540 water pm i just piped it 🙁

[uncut coyote]

Is the train supposed to use fuel that is in fuel canisters? Because I put fuel canisters into train, all of em are full of fuel, and when I get to my destination, like 3 stacks are empty

[hasty dragon]

You could commit blasphemy and use a fluid freight car for that water haha

[hasty dragon]

trains use electricity

[uncut coyote]

Maybe I had some left over empty jerry cans on the belt, but I doubt it. I made sure the belt was clear before I remodeled that part of my oil rig

[hasty dragon]

or you'll find those cans clogging up random input at one of your stations haha

[hard ivy]

Drones cap out at 5 stacks/min per drone. And only theoretically and at 0 distance.

Practically, you should expect more like 4 stacks at 0 distance, and obviously less when the drone has to move. At 2 minutes round trip, I'd expect like 3 stacks/min, though that slightly depends on fuel.

Also, for these amounts, I would use a train instead

[glad quest]

i just modded stack size