satisfactory

[fathom shuttle]

But I meant fighting off hostile animals lol

[waxen robin]

Ohh that's pve my guy but killing me mates when I con them to bye it sertanly on the boom list

[feral geyser]

I love blasting around with ionized fuel and bullying wildlife.

[fathom shuttle]

I personally like finding families of lizard doggos or wild hogs

Then nuke them

[feral geyser]

Excuse me, what do you do to the doggos??

[fathom shuttle]

One second

[feral geyser]

@mods

Ban this sociopath

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

You're a monster

I accidentally roadkilled one, and I made a display case with a statue to honor him... and here you are genociding whole families.

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t wanna know what happened to the wild life that lived under my nuclear power plant build

[feral geyser]

I couldn't give a shit less about the hostile ones, but the doggos??

[fathom shuttle]

It was just too good pass on yk

How often do you see a family of them walking around together

[vapid idol]

What is the equivalent to a smart splitter with overflow for pipes/fluids please? I need to make sure that any blocked refinery outputs get overflowed to a sinking solution, but not anymore than what is the varyin overflow requirements.

[fathom shuttle]

Ahh pipes

You’re gonna have a bad time

One minute

[reef basin]

there are some semi-reliable solutions, but they usually depend on some weird behaviors

honestly I'd just sink solid products instead so that you don't have to deal with them

[feral geyser]

You can use a headlift trap

[fathom shuttle]

Variable input priority pipes are one of the solutions

[vapid idol]

it is a rubber/plastic factory that has HOR and Fuel backup issues that are screwing the circular process

[leaden turret]

@grave burrow remind me how many lizard doggos you have on that one save, and have you tried setting off nukes on all of them?

[fathom shuttle]

How are your pipes set up right now?

[feral geyser]

Untag me right now

[reef basin]

seems like your math is off somewhere then?

[leaden turret]

✂️
🏷️

[fathom shuttle]

True

It’s pretty easy to mess up the math

[vapid idol]

Satsifactory calculator with a show resources on the factory shows everythign as spot on

[reef basin]

satisfactory calculator is known to have issues, especially around oil

[fathom shuttle]

Are you doing 600 pipes?

[feral geyser]

Maybe you've just manifolded things incorrectly.

[dapper marten]

Let me guess guys, the thing to divide the flow of conveyor belts slow down the general transportation speed right?

[reef basin]

and the resource view very often lies to you

[fathom shuttle]

Bro developed a chopped tool 💔 🥀

[hard ivy]

The statistics page assumes all machines are running at 100% uptime
So if they're not, it's wrong

[vapid idol]

I have also found even with correct math, inefficiencies end up causing something to backup so I need an exit somewhere.

[fathom shuttle]

Hi kyo

[vapid idol]

I think I bit of more than I can chew with the rubber/plastic process that uses the maximum production recipes

[reef basin]

should be able to build it in a way where such a thing doesn't happen

[vapid idol]

Yes, not with maximum alt recipes hehe

[reef basin]

yes, even with them

[hard ivy]

It's easy to do if you do it right

[fathom shuttle]

I’d build it in a way so that each refinery group does a 600 belt

[vapid idol]

Yeah I did my aluminium that way and it worked better

[fathom shuttle]

Also just save yourself the headache and do 450 pipes

[vapid idol]

I might try this "headlift trap" just to get everythign running smoothly, so I can beter find out what i did wrong

then once it is fixed, nothing should go out the overflow

[reef basin]

honestly a vertical junction already prioritises lower over higher

[fathom shuttle]

Raising the junction by 2 meters works pretty well

I did my set up with 600 and it ran smoothly that way

[vapid idol]

thats right bottom of a junction is higher than top right?

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

The lowest junction should go into the input of the machine

[vapid idol]

I will just use a fluid sink mod fore the time being to troubleshoot this, thanks all

[fathom shuttle]

Np

[vapid idol]

I might also re arrange all the floors so fluids run down rather than needing pumping up

[fathom shuttle]

Pumps are fine

[wide nacelle]

why is there no way to pause the game? D: Google says there is a console command, but when I try to use it says it isn't recognized. feels weird that the save menu doesnt even pause the game

[leaden turret]

multiplayer-first game, no reliable way to pause.

waiting for that to come to explicit singleplayer

[wide nacelle]

I see

[dense violet]

It sounds like you’ve made a giant mess of things from the chat. You’d need to show overhead images of what you’ve done

[vapid idol]

I am good, thanks

[hard ivy]

Hmm maybe that's the "unspecified game mode" they teased? More reliable singleplayer

[shy mulch]

Why would you want/need to pause?

[cunning siren]

In game combat situations and IRL emergency situations

[hard ivy]

When I need to step away for a few minutes, don't want to quit the game and don't want to come back to my pioneer laying dead on the floor

[somber monolith]

Anyone know how I’m supposed to make a steel factory using molded steel recipes using Mk 3 I keep getting really annoying numbers

[wise violet]

Exit to main menu

[crimson lantern]

Don't add the space elevator to short cuts on console, it crashes your game

[cunning siren]

Space elevator so hungry and thicc

[reef basin]

what's "annoying" about the numbers?

[hard ivy]

Back in u6, my save took several minutes to save and load. I often left the game (and save) open even if I knew I'd be gone for an hour because saving and loading was such a pain.

Granted, both are much faster now, but still. Tapping esc is much faster than doing that, plus save, plus load when I come back

[hard ivy]

Better get used to it

[somber monolith]

I can’t get them to full numbers or ones divisible by the belts

[reef basin]

why do you need that? the game allows you to clock machines to any number you want

[wise violet]

There is always the trusty method,
Box yourself in with walls and foundations

[somber monolith]

Ik but I’m still wanting round numbers

[reef basin]

any number is round if you pick some specific time unit 🙂

[sturdy mural]

hello lads

[hard ivy]

That ain't gonna save me from a uranium train/drone passing by and draining all my filters and then killing me
Or a radioactive hog

Both have happened to me or my friend at least once

[wise violet]

Touche
But my saves take like 10 seconds to load. IDK how yours take 10 minutes?

[hard ivy]

I did say "back in u6"

And regardless of how fast saving and loading is, pausing is much faster and easier

[leaden turret]

🚽

[wide nacelle]

if im not actively playing, id rather the game be paused than running on its own 🤷

quick breaks

[somber monolith]

Is it even worth using molded steel recipes until I have higher teir belts I have Mk 3 rn should I just use reg steel recipes until then

[cold knoll]

is there a bug report section on this server? or a better place to report bugs?

[shut quiver]

So are we going to get the patch today? Just curious and hoping

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[dense violet]

pick different recipes then.

[reef basin]

worth is subjective to the individual

[leaden turret]

they're asleep.

probably not gonna get a patch today

[dense violet]

you trade limestone cost for less steel cost - is that worth it for you?

[dense violet]

but as greeny mentioned 'round numbers' is a fignment of your imagination.

make the recipe in terms per 1000 minutes and everything is round.
also if decimals are going to give you a stroke this may not be a game for you

[grizzled vault]

Is it just me or the build menu is quite laggy on console?

[somber monolith]

I’m fine with it idk why I can’t figure out this stuff in this play through

[dense violet]

have you unlocked clocking yet?

[somber monolith]

Yeah first thing I went for

It’s more belts that I hate

[dense violet]

then you can set your machines to hwatever numbers you need. No slug clost

whats wrong with belts?

[olive aurora]

On PS5 Pro everything flawless

[somber monolith]

Restart it happens after a few hours

[lost quartz]

I know I'm late but I'm sorta sad to hear there's no PC - console crossplay options available since I'd been hyping the game up to a console friend of mine for a while

[olive aurora]

They told that in the Q&A before the release

[lost quartz]

Yeah and I missed that, hence why I said I'm late on it. Still sucks though

[dense violet]

I am curious about your belt issue though. There's almost a very simple solution

[olive aurora]

Yeah they sad its because the mods that can ruin a console save and so on

[lost quartz]

Yeah thats whats annoying me, not all of us use mods and I never have so its sorta grating

[leaden turret]

no mechanism in multiplayer to alert connecting users to "host will crash your console"

[somber monolith]

Idk how to split my belt im making 172 and need to split into 100 and 72

[shy mulch]

with a splitter

[reef basin]

single splitter

[dense violet]

well you could make 2 groups of machines that make 100 and 72 each

or just one splitter, it'll self balance over time

[olive aurora]

I think they dont even try to find a Solution

[shy mulch]

it'll split 50/50 at first, then when the one that only needs 72 fills up, it'll start only using 72, and the rest will go to the other side

[lost quartz]

couldn't it just be setup like, using mods automatically disables crossplay?

[leaden turret]

don't have to be using mods to have a save that can crash consoles

[crimson lantern]

Alternate cast screws or alternate bolted iron plate?

[feral geyser]

Cast screws for early game

[reef basin]

see #math-and-meta message

[lost quartz]

How so?

[grizzled vault]

Been playing for 8hours straight now icl, my £11 ps5 eBay fan is struggling rn

[somber monolith]

What about before that aswell cause I need 516 limestone to make that concrete but I only have 270 through put

[feral geyser]

Bolted plate uses more screws/plate, which means it's more effective with better screw recipes, but it's nice for higher output per machine.

[leaden turret]

xbox doesn't have enough memory to run huge saves

[dense violet]

you'll need more than 1 miner for that and use multiple sections of processing

[kindred hinge]

Me and my friend just got coal power up and running, and we are the the point where we are starting to do basical steel stuff. My question is should we make an assembly line just dedicated to things like modular frames, or should we do what we have been doing and just made modular frames and similar items from our stockpile of iron plates, rods, screws etc…

[lost quartz]

Then how is the console expected to run end-game saves anyways?

[leaden turret]

end-game saves are fine.

crazy saves are not.

[lost quartz]

So it's an optimisation issue?

[somber monolith]

Do you know how I could show that in satisfactory modeler?

[leaden turret]

... no, it's a "consoles are potatoes" issue

[reef basin]

multiple belts

[lost quartz]

So yes

[shut quiver]

Ok. I really hope the patch arrives soon. I'm about to complete phase 2

[dense violet]

no, modeler is terrible

but also, it's very easy.

you have to have 2 belts of limestone because of throughput right? just make 2 groups making concrete from 2 belts

with whatever numbers are convenient for you at the time

[somber monolith]

Is there a better tool than modeler?

[leaden turret]

console release has an optimisation patch that takes 60gb ram saves down to 30gb ram.

consoles are still potatoes.

[dense violet]

a better calculator? almost every calculator

but modeler is a layout tool.
the best layout tool is building it in game and practicing

because when you're done, you have something built.

do some quite notes about what groups you want to break down your total resources into

for example like you said you have max 270 belt speed right now right?
if you had a plan that needed 600 ore pm you'd need to at least start off with 3 groups

you could break that down however you like within your belt limits

like 2x 270 and 1x 60 belt

or 3x 200 belts

[lost quartz]

You'd like to think before releasing it to console they'd ensure it can handle everything fully

Much as its funny to be a pc master race type person in the year of our lord 2025, modern consoles are not in fact, potatoes

But this is purely stemming from frustration and being a touch upset because I'd hyped the game up to my friend, alas

[crimson lantern]

Sorry for all my questions, I'm sure you guys are getting fed up of me

[leaden turret]

it can handle the game as it's intended to be played.

it's all the weird people on pc that play it weirdly that's the problem 😛

[dense violet]

assuming console people are also not going to be weird is an issue

[karmic elm]

Beer

[lost quartz]

PC players ruining things for everyone as usual 😛

[crimson lantern]

Is delicious

[karmic elm]

I don't really like beer honestly

[dense violet]

dw bout it

[leaden turret]

console people can't:

• mod
• change uobject limit
• have more than 4 players on a session
• load external blueprints
• load modified save files

[leaden turret]

cider is the superior beverage.

[karmic elm]

Ew

[dense violet]

ehhh I don't feel those are the worst things for the game.

1 billion signs though? that's a paddlin

[leaden turret]

I built an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time

[dense violet]

beer is rotted wheat water and tastes like it

cidre is rotted (fruit preference) and tasts like spring (sometimes autumn)

[crimson lantern]

PUNISHMENT MUST BE CARRIED OUT

[lost quartz]

I've yet to find a beer I like

[dense violet]

that's because beer is the stalkholm syndrome beverage

[karmic elm]

I have the right to like what i like

[lost quartz]

Which was an issue on my holiday to Japan earlier this year so the next step up made my default drink be whiskey

[karmic elm]

Both taste so bad

[lost quartz]

I do like cider myself

gimme a crisp glass of Koppaberg on any day of the week

[leaden turret]

March 19th, 2024 Livestream
Snutt & Mikael Talk: Stockholm Syndrome
https://youtu.be/MUBz17Rg0fY

[crimson lantern]

How do I unlock a better power source? Bio fuel is hard to maintain after a bit

[karmic elm]

Coal

[lost quartz]

Story prog

[crimson lantern]

Okie dokie

Ta

This slowmode is killing me, there's like 5 of us here lol

[somber monolith]

Any good sources of mycelia near green feilds other than the cave right next to spawn I cleared it already

[turbid merlin]

Is there any way to fix not being able to get achievements if you use advanced game settings

[feral geyser]

I think the forest out to the east has a good amount, but tbh, start working toward refineries and stop using mycelia

[leaden turret]

oh how terrible, having to wait 5 seconds to type 😛

[karmic elm]

You can chainsaw those big mushrooms

[crimson lantern]

It ruins my gravitas, my drama, my flamboyance

[karmic elm]

Like the ones in caves

[somber monolith]

I’m just starting steel just getting gas mask unlocked real quick

[surreal linden]

Eh it's okay you dont need that

[somber monolith]

Yeah but where I already cleared the closest Ik of

[reef basin]

I mean... you didn't "achieve" them legit, so that's completely fair to not get it 🙂

[crimson lantern]

Without it, thwre is no "me"

[surreal linden]

Apparently when you reach oil nodes there is only like 3 of them

[crimson lantern]

I'll stop now...

[hard stump]

So there’s at least a small chance the update may happen tomorrow right? Even like 1%?

[somber monolith]

3 of what?

[surreal linden]

3 oil nodes

[somber monolith]

Man I’m not new

[surreal linden]

Im mildly shocked

[somber monolith]

Why

[surreal linden]

That there is only 3 of them

[somber monolith]

There is like 15 or smth

[surreal linden]

Everything else has like 5-6 nodes

[somber monolith]

Are you new?

[surreal linden]

Im newer to it ive played off and on

[somber monolith]

There’s like 50 nodes of each type the scanner only shows closest couple

Search satisfactory interactive map and u can see them all

[surreal linden]

Interesting okay

Gotcha ty for the tip

[somber monolith]

It’s all just far out

[reef basin]

we don't know

[cunning siren]

One thing I learned about Grass Fields is resources are spread out in comparison to other starts 🤔. Some starts have massive amounts of mycelia and others not so much. At least the Jungle Spires biome has some pure nodes in one spot near Grass Fields 🤷

[somber monolith]

Kinda the point I think so u can build big and wide and source stuff from big train lines

[dense violet]

if it makes you feel any better there's always a small chance of almost anything happening.
every atom in your body could accidentally slip past the couloumb and fuse into gold

[cunning siren]

Yea, maybe that is what the Devs though with that specific start 🤷 who knows

[somber monolith]

Trees drop silica?

[dense violet]

some

[cunning siren]

Coral drops silica too, if you happen to find some

Just hold down LMB for chainsaw and walk around 😆

[somber monolith]

When should you make a silica factory

[cunning siren]

Something will get hit

[reef basin]

when you need silica

[karmic elm]

When you want glass

[somber monolith]

True

Is there any other uses other than nuclear stuff

[reef basin]

other uses for what?

[cunning siren]

Oh yea, some alts use Silica are super handy like the Circuit Board one is baller

[sturdy mural]

silica im guessing
*reply to Greeny

[karmic elm]

I'm vibing

[void tartan]

so guys whats gonna be added in 1.2?

[reef basin]

silica is used in 7 recipes, in some buildables (windows), and two schematics

[reef basin]

fluid trucks

[sturdy mural]

schematics??

[void tartan]

hell yeah

[reef basin]

the things you unlock. Sometimes called milestones

[sturdy mural]

OOH MILESTONES

[karmic elm]

Might save my life

[reef basin]

but not all schematics are milestones 🙂

[somber monolith]

How many computers will I need later on do I need a ton for late game?

[sturdy mural]

oh wait
schematics are the MAM ones?

[reef basin]

don't think about future, think about what you need now. Leave future problems to future you, don't try to guess what you'll need later (you'll practically always underproduce or overproduce)

[reef basin]

schematic can be anything you unlock. Milestone, MAM research, alt recipe, etc.

[sturdy mural]

oooh

[dense violet]

dont try to future proof, you'll waste your time

anything you build now won't fit with whatever sandbox goals you set for yourself later anyway

[cunning siren]

No, computers are not needed much "end game" IMO. But I suppose "anything goes" in end game, it's basicly sandbox mode gameplay so the question of what one needs is rather specific to the player

[sonic verge]

please fix EOS on xbox so I can play with my friends, ill do anything 😔 🙏

[somber monolith]

I’m not future proofing I’m just wondering how much I’d have to make later down the line

[somber monolith]

What about for space elevator parts

[cunning siren]

Nope, one and done kind of situaiton for those

[somber monolith]

Wdym one and done

[cunning siren]

I suppose besides Nuclear pasta 🤔 that is useful and a elevator part for phase 4

[dense violet]

make a handful now and keep pushing forward 🙂

[cunning siren]

Like, you build them for the elevator and that is all they are used for 🤷

[somber monolith]

Well it’ll be a long time before I build computers just started steel

[somber monolith]

What’s nuclear pasta make

[pine patrol]

How do i access photo mode on console?

[dense violet]

sure 🙂 just get there, decide on a few pm, tool around with recipes, try it out

[sturdy mural]

you need computers for turbo motors.

[cunning siren]

Pasta is a part that is used in other things that are common end game goals like sinking Ballistic Warp Drives for coupons ect...

[dense violet]

doesn't say in keybindings?

[reef basin]

heavily depends on your future choices

[pine patrol]

i dont think so ill look again

i found the controls for photo mode not how to get to it

I found it

im blind

[dense violet]

it happens 🙂

[cunning siren]

Yea, like 3.75 /min to sink 10 BWD with sloopage 🤷 it's not really a fact to try to state anyway as the game turns into sandbox mode and anybody can "need" anything at that point

[pine patrol]

wanted it for this #screenshots message

[somber monolith]

What’s better nobelisk or gas mask

[feral geyser]

They do different things

[somber monolith]

For like gas areas

[feral geyser]

But I personally like keeping gas pillars

[somber monolith]

Is it better to blow it up or just breath it

[somber monolith]

They respawn

[feral geyser]

They do not

[somber monolith]

Yeah they do my steel factory in my last playthrough had gas growing out of it cause they respawned

[feral geyser]

Then that is a bug.

And if they do respawn for you, then that should answer your question: gas mask.

[kindred hinge]

How many coal plants can I run off 1 water pump?

[feral geyser]

120/45 = 2.(6)

For whole numbers, 3 water extractors @ 100% can run 8 coal gens @ 100%

Which will require exactly one Mk 2 belt full of coal.

[somber monolith]

I’m stuck in a hole how do I get out

[feral geyser]

Ladder, or foundations

[somber monolith]

It’s 27 4m high and I have no ladders

[feral geyser]

You can build ramps and dismantle them as you go.

[somber monolith]

No concrete

[kindred fulcrum]

You be alittle skrewed

[cunning siren]

ESC key respawn 4 teh win

[somber monolith]

I got a somersloop tho

[feral geyser]

Bro, you MUST carry concrete and plates at all times

[feral geyser]

Turn on keep inventory, then do it

It is not an AGS, you can do it and keep achievements

[somber monolith]

I did I ran out of it building a spider proof platform

[feral geyser]

It will reset your counter though.

[somber monolith]

If I did that I’d end up like in Minecraft keep inv killing myself to get back to base every time I get lost

[feral geyser]

I mean... 🤷‍♂️ no one here would judge you except ADA

[somber monolith]

I want my yearly bonus tho

[feral geyser]

Then it looks like you gotta figure it out.

Send a #screenshots and I can maybe tell you if there is a way out

[somber monolith]

I made it out

[feral geyser]

Niiiice

[somber monolith]

I just deleted my wall and had to fight off spiders

Then I just built out with the concrete from the wall

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message Tf is wrong with my straight mode

[feral geyser]

You have earned your first F.E.E.T. badge: "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE"

[feral geyser]

Try building the support first

[charred sandal]

sure, but it still doesnt work at all anywhere. Is there a way to fix the straight mode so that I dont have to do twice as much work?

it hasnt done this before now

[feral geyser]

I'm not sure, this sometimes happens when things are built off grid

[charred sandal]

Off grid as in not snapped to the world grid, or literally off the map?

If its #2 then thats prob it /cry

[plush moat]

Honestly just need to see that as a QoL feature and you're golden. This is a game about factory building. Not survival.

[quasi warren]

I completely forgot satisfactory for consoles released

[somber monolith]

Makes it boring if there’s no risk

[plush moat]

True risk is a clogged resource sink stopping production due to a backed belt, death is reversible

[charred sandal]

Beautiful

[quasi warren]

Resource sinks can get clogged???

[charred sandal]

If you accidentally put something that isnt sinkable in it somehow

[plush moat]

Yes if an unsinkable item ends up on the belt

[charred sandal]

Ive never had an item end up on a belt that wasnt supposed to be so idk how that happens tbh

[quasi warren]

I forgot what items were unsinkable tbh

[plush moat]

Apparently hog remains

[feral geyser]

Power shards

[plush moat]

Guess how I found that out

[feral geyser]

Remains, protein

Sloops and spheres and hard drives

[white dawn]

There's actually a fair bit that isn't sinkable, though in general it's stuff you wouldn't be trying to sink in the first place

[feral geyser]

Nuclear waste

Slugs

[white dawn]

It'd be nice if they allowed power shards to be sunk once you unlock power shard automation

[tough trellis]

wonder if there is a way to tell exactly how much raw resources I need, like say iron ingots, to make everything that involves iron parts. like something that will tell me "in order to craft everything up to the most complex parts you will need x iron being made"

[plush moat]

Smart Splitter's "overflow" setting sent my stuff down the wrong line. I now use "any undefined" for sushi belts

[feral geyser]

I just made a blueprint with a programmable splitter that sorts all that shit to the side, so I can place it in front of any all-purpose sink

[leaden turret]

ficsit does not waste
-# efficiency gains on coupons

[civic reef]

why is leached copper less efficient than pure copper

[white dawn]

At the moment the only way to overflow-to-sink on power shards is by converting to Ionized Fuel (or, I suppose, Alien Power Matrixes)

[plush moat]

Satisfactory Calculator is your friend

[dense violet]

plug in what yo uwant to make here. Easy https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[quasi warren]

I have never actually set up an aluminum factory before. Ive gotten to its tier. But never actually did anything with it before

[feral geyser]

Depends what you mean. It uses a fuckload less water and fewer machines, even considering the need to make sulfuric.

[civic reef]

in terms of copper made. water is pretty much infinite

[white dawn]

Remember that you do want an Overflow output as well, btw. (And "Overflow" implicitly includes "Any Undefined")

[feral geyser]

Yeah, but less piping means simpler setups

[plush moat]

No no no, this sushi belt was for sloop'd DNA

[tough trellis]

well see Im building a mega factory to make literally everything, and I dont know how Im gonna be able to calculate how much iron I need to smelt for all of it

[white dawn]

Just if you're putting something unsinkable onto a sushi belt, now that you know that that's a thing, you'll want to divert that to a storage which isn't likely to overflow itself. :)

[civic reef]

it's such a small amount but it's mildly annoying to me that the other leached recipes make more than the pure amounts... except for copper

[quasi warren]

Usually for situations like that, i use programmable splitters

[feral geyser]

Pure iron is also "better" than leached

Cat is the only one that has a higher conversion ratio

[white dawn]

While you are free to do so, of course (and would not be the first or last to attempt it!) keep in mind that you are setting yourself up for whole classes of problems which are unique to megafactories. It's possibly a lot harder than you think it's gonna be. :)

[dense violet]

if you don't knwo what you're going to make it's impossibe to know what you're building

one of the reasons megafactories are not a good idea if:

1. you don't have much experience building/planning
2. you don't start from the end point

[white dawn]

Planning out resource requirements is pretty trivial compared to the kinds of logistical challenges you're going to run into. :)

(Again, feel free to do it anyway, of course, but beware etc. :)

[quartz kelp]

who is good w turbo powered generators?

[civic reef]

my life is shattered after this statement

[feral geyser]

Just make rocket fuel

[dense violet]

if you want a clean smooth neat megafactory? yeah plan from the end every single step

you can't have that and a factory that grows

[quartz kelp]

dont have that

[feral geyser]

Then get it

[quartz kelp]

🐟

[white dawn]

Also, if you're going to do a megafactory, make sure you PC is Very Good, and expect to see slowdowns eventually anyway

[tough trellis]

I did watch a video on how to make it as neat as possible using converyor walls so theres that

Ill have the first floor be smelting, then 1st stage crafting, then 2nd, all up one floor

[quasi warren]

I usually do modular. I never use trains, or any vehicles for that matter. Never tried using em. I always use belts-

[tough trellis]

so each floor will be different stages

[dense violet]

sure - but you still need to plan every step. And that means having a set end point

[tough trellis]

hmm, well how many crafting stages are there to make the most complex parts I wonder...

[dense violet]

you can either have

a) a megafactory with a planned end point that is efficient and tidy

or

b) a messy growing mega that isn't efficient but will produce stuff

[tough trellis]

the goal is to be as efficient aspossible

thats why Im building this

[dense violet]

then don't build a growing mega factory. That's the opposite

[quasi warren]

Are modular factories good?? I use them often

[tough trellis]

I made this floor plan roughly 64 by 64

so thats what I Have being built

[dense violet]

to do what you want AND be efficient would take so much rebuilding and calculating that you'll burn out

it would be more work than just building new facotories elsewhere

[sturdy mural]

holy crap
Is it me or is ||Dark Matter Crystalization|| recipe (||200 dark matter residue to 20 crystals||) rather Very good

[feral geyser]

It is a nice way to handle byproduct DMR

You don't need to spoiler mark that btw

[tough trellis]

theres got to be a way to make large factories and centralize everything and be efficient otherwise why do people do it

[ivory condor]

I sure hope they are planning with all end goals calculated, otherwise suffering awaits with a mega factory

[dense violet]

because either they don't care if it's not efficient or they plan it form the end point

as mentioned 6 times

[tough trellis]

Im on phase 4 so I do have access to most every recipe

[ivory condor]

People do insane things, it doesnt mean its the best decision

[white dawn]

Of course! Anything's possible. But IMO it's literally an order of magnitude more complex / harder than Not Doing That. :)

[tough trellis]

I just want to be able to bring everything to one place to process it all

[white dawn]

Again, I'm not trying to dissuade you from doing it. People who try to build megafactories can still have a lot of fun with it. Just, y'know, giving out the warning, because people often don't realize how bad it can get.

[dense violet]

then rebuild your mega factory every time you want to change it

[quasi warren]

I learned that the hard way T-T

[unique wasp]

Also you have to keep alternate recipes in mind, build it right and you won't need screws

[white dawn]

Even if you do that, btw, I'd personally recommend having individual isolated factories for things regardless

[tough trellis]

well thats currently what I have, I just dont want to keep running around the map

[white dawn]

You can still try to process everything "onsite" if you want to (though you're almost certainly going to run into some noticeable framerate hits eventually), but keeping things isolated to subfactories will be a lot easier

[tough trellis]

I have to combat the spaghetti guys xD

[feral geyser]

Screw hate is for weaklings.

[tough trellis]

Oh Im already way ahead of you 🙂

[dense violet]

hyper tubes, trains, ect

[quasi warren]

I do it often. I have hypertubes set up for that very reason

[unique wasp]

I am weak and screws make me fearful

[tough trellis]

doesnt keep me from needing ro run nitrogen half way across the map for a new craft

[quasi warren]

Hypertube canons at the entrance of the tube. And I fly to my destination

[dense violet]

drones?

[sturdy mural]

aight

[tough trellis]

how efficient even are those

[white dawn]

Define "efficient." :)

[quasi warren]

Good from getting A to B

[dense violet]

beat me to it xD

[white dawn]

Any of the logistics methods (drones included) can be built out to support any throughput of material you need. :)

[tough trellis]

how does it compare to just belting everything in

[dense violet]

so many peopel just throw out the word 'efficient' with no meaning

[dense violet]

you don't haev to have a world spanning belt. Is that better or worse for you? up to you

[ivory condor]

Bad idea that design isnt flexible

[sturdy mural]

"is it efficient"? my brother in Mercer. FICSIT is designed for efficiency. everything is efficient if you use it correctly
-# /ref

[tough trellis]

thats why Im building this factory, because the belts I have going every which way are confusing and not conducive to changing the flow of raw ingredients

Ok yall arent really helping me

[ivory condor]

Sure you can have belts going across the map if you want, but thats a inflexible design and much worse if you need to change anything compared to trains

[white dawn]

Belting is, of course, one of those logistics methods which can be built out as far as you want. As CobaltOfDoom said, one major downside to belts is needing to run the damn belts. And then if you realize you need something else from over there, you've got to do the exact same work all over again -- belts have essentially zero innate expandability. Drones, on the other hand, require effectively no infrastructure apart from a fuel depot somewhere on your map. Plop down the ports, assign some drones, and Björn Stronginthearm's your uncle

[tough trellis]

Yeah I know, I ALREADY have belts spanning acrossthe world

[ivory condor]

I see

[dense violet]

we're just telling you the issues - if yo uwant to do what yo uwant? sure do it. It'll require you rebuilding your factory to a large degree every time you want to change it

[white dawn]

Trains require a very nontrivial amount of rail-network-building work (and have a somewhat nontrivial learning curve), but their advantage is that a single section of rail has near-infinite throughput expandability. The more you use your rail network, the "better" it gets

[tough trellis]

Why would I need to rebuild? I have ample space and once I bring everything here all I have to do is route it to a different floor

[dense violet]

it's like telling a random suburbanite why they can't have a helipad on top of their duplex to commute to work

is it possible? sure. But way more work than any other option

[white dawn]

Vehicles have a very nontrivial learning curve, but once you know how to use 'em properly, they're also a nearly-infrastructure-free method of doing things, with decent throughput expansion as well

[dense violet]

because you said you wanted it efficient.
if you don't know what the next step is going to be how are you going to build the previous step?

[ivory condor]

You wont if you have all end goal products planned already, but that means planning the entire mega factory before you start it

[tough trellis]

There is a certain amount of planning you can do without starting atteh end point, such as when youre making basic things like wire or reinforced iron plates

[ivory condor]

Otherwise as others have said, have fun rebuilding

[dense violet]

and when you need more than you expect?

[tough trellis]

ill have enough raw resource belts to expand

[cunning siren]

I'm on a belt only run right now brother! If you enjoy it... ignore the haters 🤷 It's not like anybody else can tell you how to enjoy yourself

[tough trellis]

I honestly jsut came here to ask about the most modular designs there are for arrays but all I got was talked down :/

[dense violet]

and it's going to bea giant mess. Because you'll need to interconnect a ton of places that have spare units pm of X , and maybe get a bit of the Y.

it's a nightmare.
there's no easy way to do this
people would have told you if there was

megafactory is the opposite of modular...

anyway you've been given all the info there is - good luck

[ivory condor]

Well im just sharing my person experience of suffering with mega factories

[cosmic pawn]

idk why my pipes are getting no oil despite me having 3 extractors going

[tough trellis]

does it have enough head lift?

[dense violet]

for example this could be considered a 'mega' - but it is NOT efficient. It backs up fully and sends parts as needed https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425813458892361728/image.png?ex=690e8682&is=690d3502&hm=dada667e61b5713009a63bd2723a792d24e8e451f690921520ff6dc72324ffa4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1882&height=956

[cosmic pawn]

they are mostly flat

[ivory condor]

Mega factory is really for very experienced players, and even then its hard to suggest to do it

[cosmic pawn]

like the ones coming from the extracters have max flow

or well max fluid in the pipes

[ivory condor]

And i say that having pazed the map many times in my quest to make mega factories

[tough trellis]

if you put a random pump on it and then try to place another, if there is a blue stationary bubble farther up your pipe, it is telling you you dont have enough headlift, so try that

[cosmic pawn]

it's at 0 headlift

maybe some of the pipes aren't connected for some reason

[tough trellis]

extractors automatically give 10

that could be it

[ivory condor]

That blue bubble is lies, dont follow it

I once listened to the blue bubble, regretted all my decisions

[dense violet]

do some overhead images of your set up in #math-and-meta it's almost impossible to diagnose pipes w/o seeing thigns and you can't put images in this channel

[charred sandal]

Theres no way to replace an inplace splitter with a smart one, hey?

reconnecting all the belts will make me sad

[cunning siren]

There is

Hold CTRL while mousing over with smart splitter and BOOM!

Swapped

[charred sandal]

Sick.

thanks. 🙂

[cunning siren]

OH yea, it requires a LMB click on the end there then BOOM

[wind kernel]

is it safe to assume that the game is not cross-play

[dense violet]

not between console pc

[wind kernel]

figured that would be the case; has anything been said at all about plans for it to be in the future?

[dense violet]

seems unlikely

[wind kernel]

also figured that would be the case, thanks anyway

[dense violet]

to be specific - they simply have not announced anything about doing it. But thats normal, they don't announce anything that isn't basically a done deal and set in stone

but the way the game works it seems unlikely there'll be cross play.

[sturdy mural]

any1 knows if one can report map issues?

[dense violet]

#faq for bug reports

[sturdy mural]

not really a bug
but an oversight when building the map itself

thats still for the QnA ?

[quartz kelp]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1436142134079258626

[sturdy mural]

the forum*

[spark sky]

Hm, floodlights work oddly. I placed 4 floodlights diagonal from the corners of a concrete pillar. I got above the pillar and, looking down, they do not evenly illuminate the area around the pillar. Not only that, but as I increase my height, the bright area they illuminate does not disappear evenly, either, the last one I placed illuminates the least area but is the last to stop reflecting light as I increase altitude.

I don't know if I have to try this with a square area, placing the pillar in the center of that area, to see if the number of illuminated foundations makes a difference.

Or, perhaps it's something about the diagonals to the cardinal directions being a factor.

(The last one losing it's illumination happens almost twice the height of the one before it.)

[somber monolith]

When I’m building and I only need 305 of a ore but can make 480 from a single miner what should I do with the rest? Dump it or just under clock

[charred sandal]

Can you ever sloop inhalers

or is it always manual crafting

[sullen gull]

Build to use 480?

[sullen gull]

Inhalers, like most equipment, is handcrafted only.

The ammo and filters can be automated though.

[cosmic sorrel]

anyone tryna play dm me

[somber monolith]

Then the other mines get the same issue?

[sullen gull]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[cosmic sorrel]

thank you

[sullen gull]

No idea of how you're building. For my styles, I build with maxing the nodes I am using.. When I have appropriate belt speeds of course.

[somber monolith]

That’s what I do but sometimes for stuff such as steel 480 coal and iron is fine but then I need 1,108 for concrete and to make the concrete whole I would need to increase the coal and iron which would then make then odd

[dense violet]

make what odd?

[sullen gull]

Encased industrial beams?

[somber monolith]

That and stuff like steel beams and pipes

Also are the number better if I make Steel beams steel pipes and encased steel pipes speratly or in one factory all from one node

[dense violet]

how are the numbers 'better' ?

[dense violet]

molded pipes with 1107 limestone, easy peasy https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=1UYwrJffTu0j80f6y3wz

[sullen gull]

👆

[somber monolith]

I was asking if I use like 40% of a node should I be just under clocking, dumping into a grinder or trying to make smth out of it even if I don’t want or need it

[dense violet]

up to you. Over clocking and dumping in a grinder is a few points for not much work or power.

[sullen gull]

If sinking. Best to make something else and sink that.. better ROI

[dense violet]

like 99% of choices in the game, it mostly depends on you, very few black and white answers

[sullen gull]

💯

[somber monolith]

Is there a way to always use 100% of nodes?

[cosmic sorrel]

yea no one reasponed

me sad

[charred sandal]

Sinks

[dense violet]

make plans that use them - but you'll genearlly need multiple resource types and ratios being the way they are it's very unlikely you'll have combos that uses every node 100%

[charred sandal]

Is there a way to set a splitter to prioritize overflow?

Like, Left > right > centre

[dense violet]

unless you sink the excess I guess

[somber monolith]

🙁

[cosmic sorrel]

anyone got a mega factory i can check out ??

[dense violet]

why sad? it's effectively impossible to use every resource on the map

so every second you aren't using all the nodes you're also 'wasting' them too

[sullen gull]

There may be a few, but most are not too keen to play with strangers from the intertubes. But you may get a response, patience is key 😏

[somber monolith]

It’s more that I’ll have to go really far to get all the nodes I’ll need

I hate travelling far and making big lines

[dense violet]

the game forces you to expand.

it's a logistics planning game

[cosmic sorrel]

im just looking for new friends, my little brother quit gaming and my old group was just mean

[dense violet]

make curvy rail then https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425104545020641300/1425108241725001738/image.png?ex=690e98ba&is=690d473a&hm=6d45417ece9cfb061814b6e29d7a9a4920617981e3cf8b8c129261926a81e153&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=191

[sullen gull]

The game is meant for one to spread out. Mega bases can be a pain

[dense violet]

#1201555265942724758 but yeah it can take a long while to never

why don't you respond to existing posts?

[cosmic sorrel]

i did brother

[dense violet]

gotta keep trying

but SF is a very solo game imo

most don't want others in their world

[cosmic sorrel]

understandable

imma pass out yall have a good one

[somber monolith]

I am kinda spread out im just sorta early game in my new playthrough and im new to going a distance to source the items as I’ve been playing on the desert before so I never had to travel more than a couple thousand meters for anything other than oil and coal

[sullen gull]

I wouldn't say it's VERY solo, but does require some strong cooperation, which given the different styles of play though possible, can be difficult

[dense violet]

the game forces you to 🙂

though if you really want, go to the east swamp. Everything you need for the whole game within 500m from the central point

[somber monolith]

I’ll prob just have to learn but do you have any tips for when I build long lines of conveyors?

[dense violet]

... so early on just learning? I'll have a few external hubs I just link up with a couple sloppy belts

I don't worry about prettiness going up the tiers

but after I've unlocked everything:? I plan factories to spots where I can link up rail and things

[sullen gull]

Curved mode over terrain. Or make frame pillar scaffolding.... many different ways.

[dense violet]

but as I said, the East Swamp has everything you'll need

... except maybe SAM. Not sure on that one

could just drone that in if it's not there I guess

[sullen gull]

Take a look through #screenshots and #design-and-architecture

[somber monolith]

Isn’t it extremely dangerous there I went once and got bullied by like 10 spiders and there is same on the border of the swamp

Sam*

[sullen gull]

Eh, there is one right on top of the waterfall there... so not "too far".. but yeah, more than 500m for sure.

[dense violet]

you do need to go there armed, once you place powered buildings though they stop spawning

[somber monolith]

Does that stop all enemy’s from spawning in an area like a cave when I place a miner down?

[dense violet]

yup!

[sullen gull]

Within a radius. Though, not sure what that radius is

[dense violet]

a smelter, constructor, miner, as long as it's powered, you're good. Can't recall the radius it blocks but it's a reasonable distance

it's not hard to black out all the spawn points

[somber monolith]

Nice atleast I can uncover my sam area now

[dense violet]

but yeah if you want to avoid basically all spreading out, east swamp is for you

northern forest you can get away with a coiuple extra hubs plus a central spot

[hard junco]

hey i have a question about smart splitters, if i have 2.5 computers and want to use only 2 to feed a manufacturer and send the rest to storage is that doable with smart splitter? if yes do i set centre output to any and right output to overflow is that correct?

really thats it? ive been melting my brain the past hour to get a perfet 2 computers or 4 computers or 6 computers any even number that could be split correctly my god

[sturdy mural]

guys i need to automate superpositoin oscillators and turbo motors
which one do i do?

[dense violet]

you could also have 2 manufacturers , 1 making 2pm 1 making 0.5 a minute?

[sturdy mural]

(the answer is i rebuild the basic iron factory for the 4th time)

[hard junco]

4 cables 8 plastic bad numebrs lol i like 20 40 60 10 these are good numbers

[sturdy mural]

front - any
side - overflow

it will output the 2.5 to the front a first, but when it gets saturated with the +0.5, that will start going to the side

[dense violet]

I mean, there's no good or bad numbers, just numbers , but you do you.
manifolds self balance so you wouldn't even have to change anything but the clocking

[white dawn]

Oh, four's been a very bad number. It knows what it did

[rose saffron]

I need 800 packaged water per minute

[primal obsidian]

why?

[rose saffron]

oils

[primal obsidian]

that doesent make any sense

[rose saffron]

yes it does

[dense violet]

packaged diluted fuel?

[primal obsidian]

what oils? fuel? residual fuel? crude oil? turbofuel?

[rose saffron]

yeah

[dense violet]

I highly recommend making sections that go packager > refinery > unpackager > loop back

makes life a lot easier

you can make a BP of it easily

[hard junco]

u know what i feel stupid now lol i didnt get the first time u said use two manufactureres 2 and 0.5 would complete each other (32 plastic per minute is bad but adding 8 per minute for 0.5 computers is perfect ill just have two merge two refineries making plastic aghh how did i miss that)

but using smart splitters is better cuz less space right?

[dense violet]

it happens 🙂

I mean 'better' is subjective, and for what you're doing it sounds like it'll work and save space

so if that's better? sure 🙂

[dense violet]

I mostly mentioned it because selectively clocking and splitting up production like that can be really handy in a lot of situations

In this situation though I'd also just use one smart splitter though

[sturdy mural]

guys i just used up ALL my mercer spheres to upgrade it in the MAM 💪

[hard junco]

haha yea i think for now smart splitters works but its good to know i can just overclock and underclock maybe use the 0.5 in another project....this changes a lot even tho its so obvious yet i never thought about it

[sturdy mural]

now i need 50 ||singularity cells|| and i finished the MAM

[dense violet]

it happens.

most people don't realise they can keep waste and fresh water split when doing bauxite either, but it's super simple and reliable

SUPER obvious when you're shown it

[ionic gate]

why can't i see my buildings on the map?

[dim cradle]

Alright, I made exactly one nuclear pasta maker...

and then shoved a sloop in it, praying that my geothermal and sloop energy can somehow support this thing...

Gonna be 2 hours of waiting I guess

[dense violet]

the map doesn't show buildings

[dim cradle]

actually I guess it's not using as much as I thought...

weird

[ionic gate]

i saw ppl in yt have buildings shown in map, anyways how can i tell where my factories are? thete is no mark for that

[dim cradle]

Unless the estimate is delayed till it actually completes...

Lol it uses 6GW...

welp w/e all of the pasta

[south idol]

prime time to go go hunt The Loops

[dim cradle]

I have all 103 sloops

[south idol]

.. i guess youve been waiting before.

[dense violet]

that's a map editor

[dense violet]

place down markers yourself 🙂

[dim cradle]

I enjoyed the exploring, but yeah I usually leave the game going overnight too

not really even necessary, some objs did take a few hours but that's within normal playtime parameters

[ionic gate]

ik but there is no icon for it, what do ppl commonly do for this problem?

[dense violet]

I never use any icons for anything - but use whatever icon seems appropriate?

[dim cradle]

I'm honestly not sure what to do after I do get to the last phase. Like yeah sure I'll play around with the new stuff but...

I'm not that addicted to this?

[dense violet]

create projects aroudn mechanics you think are interesting

game is more like minecraft. Make stuff that is interesting. If you dont have that.. well.. maybe you're not 🙂

[hard junco]

@dense violet ok sorry to ask a lot but i am curious to know how do u deal with this cuz for me this is something i always skip, for example crystal computer u get 3.333 per minute how is that helpful u need 1.667 crystal oscillator these numbers are annoying lmao unless u overclock to 4 computers per minute in that case u use 6 circuit board and 2 crystals is it better for using less parts maybe ? or maybe ill figure that out in the future

[dense violet]

never go by the recipe needs

figure out your goal and how many Crystal computers you need.

for example if you need 12.56 computers per min and using crystal comps?

(12.56/3.333) x100 = total % clocking you need of that recipe

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-there-is-no-spoon-talking-kid-gif-17690655

essentially just completely ignore anything that looks like a 'bad number' as clocking makes it all irrelevant

"there is no spoon"

[hard junco]

i love it and i get it now thank you so much man i appreciate it

[south idol]

eh, see how many points you can make? build the most asthetically pleasing factory you can? Whatever feels good - and if nothing does, congrats, you completed satisfactory 🙂

[dense violet]

no sweat.
Clocking is your single most powerful logistics tool you ahve the whole game. Treat it as your best friend

[hard junco]

thats what ill do got excited to keep building now lol

[dense violet]

for example I make things like this 😛 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1318079364377743471/image.png?ex=690e24d1&is=690cd351&hm=5a1fdc74735fe74481487391ca9adadfe80169542a7010ce0ceac1acfc3a68ee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1496&height=972

[dim cradle]

I overclock literally everything now...

Just to save space.

[south idol]

space is the one thing you have almost infinite of

[dense violet]

sure , I OC a lot to oafter the end, saves space and huuuuuge factories are much harder to make look good imo

that image I linked jsut now has everything clocked 200-250%

[dim cradle]

Hmm... I'm not interested in traditional building projects tbh, I want weird degen stuff 🤔

[dense violet]

do it then 🙂

[dim cradle]

So I guess my next project and maybe last will be creating truck death squad with non intersecting loops and a hypertube for spawning purposes so that I can create a meat farm for no reason

[dense violet]

you could, with only pig meat and sam ore, create the whole nuclear chain too

[south idol]

im currently playing in a way where the factory needs to look in some way human operatable - I'm allowed to do physics defying things, but only if you can't see it - eg, the flying concrete gets walls, and the mines underneath are entombed and only accessible through concrete tubes.. so it looks from the factory perspective like your going deep underground to get to them

[dim cradle]

That would take too long for me lol

if most people saw my current factory they might have an aneurysm on the spot

[dense violet]

get what yo uwant out of the game 🙂
hell I spent 250hrs on a fuel plant once

[south idol]

i like the planning aspect of it

[dim cradle]

well you know like... someone told me that it would be hard to get through phase 4 with nothing but geothermal and sloop energy

but... no it's not really, I'm having no problems at all

I could def go faster with a bit more headroom but who cares

[spark sky]

I was talking about uneven lighting from floodlights (earlier). Here is what I was talking about. #screenshots message

[dim cradle]

My max consumption is 3GW above what I'm making, but not really a big deal when I'm producing like 14GW above what I'm actually consuming.

[spark sky]

Heh, I did most everything through Phase 1 by hand.

[dim cradle]

I don't blame you, bio power sucks

I tried but I did set up a small factory at the end because it would have taken longer

kind of weird how you can just sit in the particle accelerator with no damage

[south idol]

you just wont have any children

[spark sky]

No it doesn't. Embrace it! I'm still working on a biofuel power plant, just because I can, and I'm at the start of Phase 2 and had Geothermal before Phase 1.

[dim cradle]

maybe they'll be extra special children

Super powers

or born in another dimension

[dense violet]

the alien tech really dumbed things down in 1.0 yeah

[south idol]

heh, my early game was:

1. The concrete dungeon, for 1600 concrete a min (I want to be able to pave over anything at any time)
2. The TurboFuel plant, paved over the oil bowl in the bottom right and build a 100GW of TurboPower

[spark sky]

Hey, they put eggs on the Challenger to try to get super chickens.

[dense violet]

basically soft creative mode things

[south idol]

i turned the red forest into the red floating parking lot, still gotta build the side walls, but it felt great not being able to spend concrete as fast as I was making it 😅 fly around at max speed placing down 5x5 blueprints of foundation

[dim cradle]

the sloops are pretty OP towards the last few objs

being able to just do double with no factory to speak of makes things pretty easy

[south idol]

this is my second playthrough, and it occurred to me that what I think might be missing for me, is that the space elevator shouldnt need quantities of items, but rates

[dim cradle]

Although the particle collider using 6gw not even overclocked did make me sweat a bit

[south idol]

if you need to make all items at a certain speed to progress, and keep making them in the next phase, that would really focus the factory construction

[dim cradle]

It would certainly make the game a lot slower though

you'd need a hella large factory

[south idol]

...yeah, but it kinda feels like that's the point.

[dim cradle]

depends on who you are

[south idol]

i practically hand crafted phase 4 in a shoebox

[buoyant charm]

how to build a miner in blueprint

[dim cradle]

what would be very sadistic is if they made it so that you have to maintain the rates for all previous phases while doing the new rates for the new phases

imagine that

[dense violet]

people have suggested that before. Like it locks you out if you go under the rates? but a lot of people don't realise the tiers are basically a tutorial to get you to sand box mode

[rose saffron]

that's just Factorio

[dense violet]

you don't

[buoyant charm]

ok

[sturdy mural]

real

[south idol]

yes, exactly... that encourages modular factory construction, saving blueprints, and making specialised blueprints for certain components.

[rose saffron]

but Factorio focuses on working with far larger item amounts per second

so it's not really an issue

[dim cradle]

I've made a lot of blueprints, wasted a lot of time on it one day

only to realize sleep deprivation doesn't lend itself well to blueprint making

[sturdy mural]

i made like 5 diffirent blueprints for smelting for example

never used em except once

[dim cradle]

I use my blueprints all the time

[sturdy mural]

what do you have in them

[dim cradle]

refinery manifold is really putting in work

[south idol]

ive got a pretty good basic blueprint down at the momement - manifold inputs with smart splitters, frame pilliars in the corners with beams inbetwen them, power gets fed to the beams, blueprints tile and connect left and right easily, and you bake the recipe in for a certain use case.

[dim cradle]

I also made a vertical smelter and vertical refinery manifold though uh...

[sturdy mural]

i double slooped leaves and wood i gathered on my adventures
i have 2 full big containers

[dim cradle]

that was... not the best... of ideas....

[sturdy mural]

oh hey there's still 800 wood left

[rose saffron]

#screenshots message

[south idol]

mm, ive not had joy with vertical factories tbh

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message

they called it spaghetti, it's just pasta though

[south idol]

use a faster belt so you cant see it 😅

[loud anchor]

hey Im playing on the deck with the official satisfactory controller (consoles) Does anyone know how to do the copy paste on control?

[dim cradle]

The funny thing about my vertical refinery manifold... is that I made the input and output at the top on accident

[rose saffron]

I absolutely hate your factory

[dim cradle]

Thanks, I feel vindicated

I need to show you what it looks like now, I guess after I finish p4

[south idol]

#screenshots message
going for the steel frame asthetic 😅

[dim cradle]

frankly I also don't think I could ever clean this up

I know where everything is at, but it's a lost cause

[small kernel]

I been trying to play but it keeps crashing and Idky

[shrewd palm]

theres an issue with epic logins crashing the game on xbox rn

devs are working on a fix, should hopefully be out soon

[small kernel]

My mate is playing playing rn but mine isn’t

[sturdy mural]

🤔 i may or may not have accidentally got rid of 6 mercer spheres into MAM while rebuilding a factory that output 6 things for the depots

[rose saffron]

well they definitely went somewhere, they don't just disappear

[sturdy mural]

they went into 120/m -> 240/m upload

but now i dont have them for the depots

Dude

[rose saffron]

that's crazy

[shrewd palm]

<@&387163995947270144>

[sturdy mural]

can we get a mod on the message

[rose saffron]

he got auto banned

[sturdy mural]

thank you Bill

[sturdy mural]

the message stayed tho

[rose saffron]

yep

[sturdy mural]

heck was this guys deal anyway

[shrewd palm]

probably thinks its cool

[sturdy mural]

yeah snooping in the msg history confirms it

[lucid pagoda]

can i still get achievements with mods?

[rose saffron]

no

[lucid pagoda]

oh, damn

[shrewd palm]

you should be able to

im using infinite nudge and still get them

only advanced game settings should disable them

[lucid pagoda]

oh, okay, i just wanna have infinite nudge and zoop for the most part, maybe thorium cus its neat

[dense violet]

you can yes

[rose saffron]

#screenshots message

designed a repeatable setup for my packaged diluted fuel

[charred sandal]

How do you angle pipe supports?

Like, when you place a hypertube support, it gives you a chance to tilt it

but I cant figure it out for pipes

[rose saffron]

scroll wheel

[shrewd palm]

should be the same thing

[charred sandal]

Oh

it just doesnt work for wall supports

🙁

[shrewd palm]

yeah you cant angle those

[kindred fulcrum]

Splitters and mergers. I dont get em. I just unlocked them and I get what they do. I just dont know how to implement them into my factory. I am told there fundamental to factories. I just cant see how

[rose saffron]

make a line of buildings

try using them to feed those buildings

[shrewd palm]

splitters are how you split belts into multiple machines

[rose saffron]

say smelters

[shrewd palm]

mergers are how you put multiple machines on to one belt

and you can also use them on other belts too

[dense violet]

a row of smelters being evenly fed with a manifold of splitters https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1407002332239237210/1407004901015294013/image.png?ex=690ea7ad&is=690d562d&hm=97a87dabcc3aa491e9042156cf384fafd24f379e37e5aa76b927771664a30d43&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

feel free to ask questions 🙂

[spark sky]

Hm, why "diluted" fuel? (Does this imply that you started with "concentrated" fuel and somehow watered it down?)

[rose saffron]

because water is magical in this game and doesn't destroy combustion engines

[kindred fulcrum]

Ohhh that makes sense now. I dont have manifolds unlocked tho. Just normal mergers and splitters

[rose saffron]

manifolds aren't a building

a manifold is just a row of splitters or mergers feeding a row of buildings

[spark sky]

Well, under the right conditions, it doesn't in real life, either. People have used water injection to increase ccmpression in internal combustion engines. I think its something that not a lot of people understand, though, and probably not a thing where your engine could freeze in the winter.

[kindred fulcrum]

Oh

[dense violet]

what meme said 🙂

[dense violet]

they're called 'manifolds' because they over flow to the next machine down the line, and eventually balance out

[abstract heron]

@charred sandal Did u up the u ojbect stuff?

[charred sandal]

no

[rose saffron]

#screenshots message
#screenshots message
take these two examples, the first one feeds the assemblers evenly, this isn't really necessary but can be very useful for something like semi-automating biomass burners, the second one (lets assume it's also an input instead of an output) lets the machine's buffer fill up before sending the remaining belt capacity to the next machine, and so on

by filling up the internal buffer of the machine the production line will eventually even out for all buildings to produce at your designed capacity

it'll just take a while

[kindred fulcrum]

Gotcha. So basically they just sort things evenly when you have multiple say smelters and such. So what i should do is build more then one smelter and assembler and so on to maximize both how much I produce and the variety

[charred sandal]

Gas doesnt require pumps right?

Like nitrogen just goes up

[abstract heron]

i am in my main world now

[abstract heron]

if i remember no

[rose saffron]

yeah, I made an area where I'm producing 480 iron a second, so using four mk2 belts which transport at 120 items a second, each belt feeds into four smelters, and then a new belt takes over

so it's just one line of 16 smelters and manifolds feeding into those

[dense violet]

build the number of machines you need 🙂 as long as your belt is fast enough, and you have at least enough parts per min on it for the system? it'll self balance

[rose saffron]

what you need or what you want to produce

you could overbuild a smelting area, knowing that you don't need everything from it yet

[cosmic pawn]

how hard will it be to get to the dune desert from the grass fields?

i will to put a iron factory there due to the abundance of iron

[rose saffron]

it's a very long distance with dangerous terrain and tall mountains

[cosmic pawn]

ah

guess i should just settle for the rocky desert instead

[dense violet]

I'd probably make a dedicated factory there if you wanted? good place for heavy modular frames

[rose saffron]

grass fields is in the bottom left, dune desert is in the top right

[dense violet]

but iron is everywhere, I wouldn't go all that way to bring it in

[rose saffron]

unless you have trains to build over terrain, the safest path is to go around the left side of the map and through the rocky desert

[cosmic pawn]

i have trains

[kindred fulcrum]

Im on 2 pure iron nodes. Could those two fuel four smelters with manifolds feeding to constructors and such

[cosmic pawn]

i want to build a new iron factory since where my current one is there is like 4 nodes and thats it

and none are pure

[rose saffron]

you could make 120/s from one node, each smelter does 30/s

[dense violet]

good habit: work with the numbers you get from the miners - avoid counting by machines because you won't be able to do that much the further you go

[kindred fulcrum]

Got it

[dense violet]

usually you can over clock most nodes to the max throughput of your belt early on so it'll depend how fast your belts are how muc you can mine

[kindred fulcrum]

Now im just hoping this game will click in my brain lol

[dense violet]

you'll get there 🙂

[cosmic pawn]

i had the same thought

i have to use a planner for everything now

which saves me like 30 mins of thinking

[obsidian patio]

Helloooooo I’m new

[dense violet]

most everyone does at some point 🙂 even if you start having to use them early than others doesn't mean you're bad

[dense violet]

hi New, I'm dad.

[kindred fulcrum]

Thinking is hard. Im autistic so this game is like reading algebra backwards at times

[obsidian patio]

😭

[cosmic pawn]

least i am not the only one

[kindred fulcrum]

Oh your autistic!. Hello!

[dense violet]

I think it depends on the kind of tism

to some its snorting cocaine

[kindred fulcrum]

High functioning autism. Most people don't know i have it unless I tell em

[cosmic pawn]

idk what kind i have

[dense violet]

mask on

but really depends on the person. It just clicks my brain

[kindred fulcrum]

Let's go to dms if ya want. Im sure I can figure you out lol

[cosmic pawn]

probably not

[dense violet]

ah so you have the problem solving tism 😛

[kindred fulcrum]

Yep:3

[cosmic pawn]

i just take a while to figure crap out

and hyper fixate on one thing

[kindred fulcrum]

Thats easily high functioning. You definently arnt low cause low dont speak usually and rarely socialize.

[bitter sparrow]

Anyone want to roast my factory? #screenshots just tell me what you think I’m doing wrong

[kindred fulcrum]

Mine looks worse

[bitter sparrow]

Haven’t played satisfactory in a few years tbh. Had to buy it on ps5

Actually my third time buying it since I had it on EGS

[kindred fulcrum]

There's alot of new things. My first time playing on xbox series x. Ive restarted 3 times now

[bitter sparrow]

Yeah it almost feels less grindy?

Since I last played (before the big update)

[sullen locust]

https://youtu.be/kp-KDk4R6Sk?si=4YbrkPD78apzvWdb the ship at the end of the scene has arrived

[bitter sparrow]

Prob before 1.0

[kindred fulcrum]

In the early game they definently lowered requirements abit

[bitter sparrow]

Ah yeah for sure.

[rose saffron]

I have one refinery linked up to two packagers unpacking the diluted fuel and then repackaging the container with water

it's a closed loop system, so how many containers should I give it?

60?

[bitter sparrow]

So are power slugs still good?

I just finished researching them and unlocked the overlocking

Only thing I changed was making the animals passive. Those used to be so annoying just attacking me

lol

[kindred fulcrum]

I made em passive aswell just for the sake of i have enough making me rage. To heck with manifolds

[bitter sparrow]

I really hope this game is successful on console. There isn’t much like it.

[tough trellis]

SO I was making a power line to this pure sulfur node I found to take it back to my factory and I placed a power tower by a SAM node and I was like "Oh how convenient!" But then I checked what rarity it was and its PURE so now I have power there too 😄

Pretty sure SAM is used in end game crafts so Im glad I found it

[bitter sparrow]

Also how do I take my coffee out on PS5? Is it an emote

[limpid cairn]

Foundations.

[limpid cairn]

Need to buy it from awesome shop

[bitter sparrow]

Ohh alright.

[bitter sparrow]

Yeah need to do that lol 😂

[tough trellis]

oh I also finished my fuel generator array of 600 generators from 600 crude oil to rocket fuel and it makes roughly 140k

Technically I could do it a second time but meh

[kindred fulcrum]

We need the caffeine

Also. Your using splitters and such right in those pics. Impressive. Ive yet to learn them

[edgy swift]

I wish I had a experienced player to help me..

[tough trellis]

Ive almost beaten the game, whats up?

[edgy swift]

Nah, Just a speedrun playthrough

[tough trellis]

oh yeah im not best suited for advising that

[edgy swift]

Or to help me with maximising my full factory

[tough trellis]

splitters and mergers are easy! If you want I can teach you the most efficient way to use them

[bold ice]

Spaghetti is the key.

[edgy swift]

I am up to T8 But I need more

[tough trellis]

Oh thats where Im at!

Im currently not working towards phase 4 though, I need to centralize, expand, and neaten up my factory so Im gathering pure nodes from around the map

[edgy swift]

Sorry, I need like someone to help me make my factory better and bigger

[kindred fulcrum]

Id love to learn. Im autistic so sorry if I dont catch on quick

[tough trellis]

thats fine! I can show you what I have so far in a call if youd like

[edgy swift]

I am a bit tired

I stayed up all night last night

[tough trellis]

Oh sorry meantto reply to rage

[edgy swift]

No No, I know. Just saying. The wrong words always come out :)

[odd remnant]

Does anyone know when you get the jetpack that allows you go farther than the original one is that early on in the game??

[bold ice]

Jetpack efficiency depends on the fuel used.

[edgy swift]

Wdym? Theres only the Hoverpack and Jetpack.

The best fuels are the turbofuel ones

[odd remnant]

That's what it is? Hoverpack?

Yeah that

[charred sandal]

If you set two outputs to overflow on a smart splitter, does it just split them in half? Is there anyway to get one to be a prio?

[odd remnant]

When can you unlock the hoverpack?

[bold ice]

No, just make 2nd overflow in the belt thats overflowing.

[cunning siren]

Yea build another one and use that

[charred sandal]

was afraid ud say that 🙁

[odd remnant]

Anyone know?

[edgy swift]

T8

[bitter sparrow]

Jeez

[cunning siren]

There also is the priority merger if that helps

[odd remnant]

Dang that far?? I'm not even there yet lol I'm still on T3

[bitter sparrow]

What another the other jet pack

[charred sandal]

Whats the priority merger do

[odd remnant]

Wait there's a second one?

I thought it was the hoverpack

[bitter sparrow]

The early game one?

Someone just mentioned it

[cunning siren]

Gives a way to control what input out of 3 gets priority

[charred sandal]

ah i see

[odd remnant]

I mean the one I saw in the game

Someone mentioned the Hoverpack for T8

[bitter sparrow]

T8 seems far lol but it makes sense since you’re building higher structures

[cunning siren]

I used a priority merger for ez-mode maxed out turbo diamonds

Thats about it though 🤷

[edgy swift]

Anyone wanna help me with my mega base

[odd remnant]

Yeah it does lol I'm not even there yet lol

[edgy swift]

22 floors for basic products, I need a designer, Resource collecter and another builder :)

[odd remnant]

Bro I'm struggling to do a mega base, and I'm 275 hours

[bitter sparrow]

Sounds like you need someone to do all the work

Lol

[odd remnant]

I managed to change my base at least 5 times

[eternal shale]

Jetpack is T5. Used fuel and as limited it how long you can be in a jump before you have to land based on your fuel. The Hoverpack is T8, runs on MW from nearby structures and has unlimited air time as long as you are close enough to power

[edgy swift]

I mean, "ANOTHER BUILDER"

[edgy swift]

750 Hours combined?
Yeah by the end I'll have 2500 Hours

[odd remnant]

That's what I'm looking for but that seems far way off, I'm not even there on T4 lol I know about the fuel but I haven't made enough. Havne't gotten to that part yet and made enough supplies

[odd remnant]

Yeah 275 hours, I'm almost at 300 hours lol

[rose saffron]

I have unlocked turbofuel

[odd remnant]

Same but I haven't made any

[rose saffron]

now with the diluted packaged fuel plant I'm building, I could take 800 fuel and produce 2400 turbofuel

[edgy swift]

Better start

[odd remnant]

I'm trying but I get so distracted lol

[rose saffron]

I think that could produce 80,000MW of power?

or did I do the math wrong

[south canyon]

how to find quartz

[edgy swift]

What you need sir is a friend group

[south canyon]

scanner keeps pointing me to a spot "only 95m away"

[edgy swift]

In ur timezone

[south canyon]

and when I walk towards it, the waypoint rapidly moves left/right

[odd remnant]

I know right lol that would make things easy for me and faster for my build in my base

[edgy swift]

In a cave

Yeah

I mean I had one but they became inactive. I am going to go work on my mega base. I have to start from scratch. If anyone wants to help, Just DM me

[odd remnant]

Question can you set limits if you invite someone where they can do certain things?

Sort of like Minecraft online settings where you can limit what they can do

[edgy swift]

Well, in what way? Like building or changing settings.

Building - No.
Settings - Yes

[odd remnant]

Both

[odd remnant]

That seems like a risk to me

[dense violet]

you cannot make things unchangelble to others

don't invite maniacs to yoru server is the best defense

[edgy swift]

Thats what world backup is for.

[odd remnant]

Good point, I always make backups

[edgy swift]

I just take the risk. I make whole new saves

I'M GETTING OFF TOPIC!

[odd remnant]

That's like I refuse to play with anyone lol

[edgy swift]

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

I have a whole file dedicated to factory planner

[odd remnant]

I need to be like you, I'm unorganzied sometimes

[edgy swift]

I play with people just for the company and help.

Single-Player is boring for long amounts of time.

[odd remnant]

I know how you feel, it feels lonely but I listen to music it helps

[edgy swift]

Yeah, but even music can be hard sometimes

[odd remnant]

Maybe.....i will be open to have random ppl to come to my world lol maybe in 25 years lol

[edgy swift]

Anyways. Imma js create a whole new world

My first ever vanilla world, It was created in U1 now it's 1.1

[odd remnant]

that seems long, might as well and start a new one

[edgy swift]

Are you the type of guy to play with 1200 Limestone PM, 4800 Iron Ore PM and 2400 Copper Ore PM with 2400M3 of water? I need to smelt all of this then produce everything that I can get outta it.

[dim cradle]

I have set up a lot of pure smelting refineries.

They do get massive.

[odd remnant]

Idk tbh, I struggle with all of them cause I don't know how to manage the massive productions. I'm still learning tbh

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message This entire tower was nothing but for smelting some pure caterium on a mk2 miner...

In hindsight it's better to just overclock and lower the number down by a lot, it gets ridiculous.

[odd remnant]

I'm just trying to survive here and make an actual practical factory.

[dense violet]

liar 😛
you dont have to

[dim cradle]

Whuh?

Either you misread that or it's now flying over my head instead

[edgy swift]

anyone got any tips to get a 4 people friend group fast? vanilla and australia

or anywhere near aus

[hushed basin]

If I put keep everything when I die will that mess with getting achievements

[dense violet]

If it's not under Advanced Game Settings? no

only AGS specific things do that

[edgy swift]

Did anyone know that there is a 4 pure iron, 1 pure limestone, 2 pure copper and a pure caterium nearby?

[hushed basin]

Where this

[feral geyser]

northwest edge of the northern forests, near the canyon?

[somber monolith]

Do mods disable acheivments in steam?

[feral geyser]

no

maybe certain ones, but not any of the ones i have used

[delicate elk]

why is concrete foundation like that

[grave burrow]

4002 lizard doggos and bombs are prohibited anywhere near that platform XD

[delicate elk]

not symmetrical

[dense violet]

news to me

[abstract heron]

u have that manny?

[grave burrow]

Yeah it was a celebration stream hitting 4k followers and took 18hrs to spawn one at a time and tame each one. The framerate was under 1fp back when I finished it but now runs a nice 13fps. It was featured on the 1.0 release dev stream XD They are still there to this day.

[abstract heron]

i am building big refeinrys i am very much thinking moving my uobject limt up a big wack

like doing all Refeinrys with Dune Desert ore and Cayon ore

all by hand

[grave burrow]

oh nice! That game can easily handle upwards of 3-5 million UObjects before the framerate drops to the 40-50fps range (Hardware depending of course). Everything youll find online about increasing it shows to do 100 million but Im telling you ten million will be plenty. Ive only ever hit 55 million UObjects and the save was rendered absolutely unplayable (And unable to load in unreal 5 due to it surpassed the 2gb save file size limit)

[abstract heron]

i have a beast beast gaming PC atm

5080 ti 32gb of ram i7k 7800x3d

[somber monolith]

Why is the conveyor progression so dumb mk3 is 10x easier than mk2

[abstract heron]

i just don't want crap if i uobject limlt increase andrew

[grave burrow]

There is a point where the engine becomes the bottleneck though. Shouldnt see any dip with the best hardware until hitting 4-5 million UObjects mainly because thats where the engine just isnt designed to handle that much data processing. At that point, your CPU and GPU will be hitting very low percentages while still dropping. The performance drop seems to slow a good bit as you approach 10 million UObjects so by then expect no less than 20fps.

[abstract heron]

Ya i have big 14k gb or mb when i boot my world its giant then it cools off

[grave burrow]

I always just skip to mk3 XD

[dense violet]

you need a bunch of RIP for other things it's not like it's a massive ask to make a few more

[abstract heron]

Still debating on upping the uobject limlt and if i remove the line of code will it go down

[somber monolith]

Anyone know of hard drives with circuit boards near green feilds I’m tryna get production amplifier early

[dense violet]

wiki prob has info

[novel heath]

do gas have weird physics like liquid do or no? all i know is that they dont have headlift

[bronze atlas]

you could also check SCIM

[elder apex]

Central Lake has good number of circuit board crash sites

[somber monolith]

That only tells u where they are not what’s around it or what u get from scraping

[dense violet]

they have physics, yes

[somber monolith]

Central lake?

[novel heath]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2661233686

[elder apex]

Sorry, the big lake south of the Northern Forest

[somber monolith]

Ik where they are but idk what’s around it and I don’t feel like a couple hr run rn

[grave burrow]

The engine treats it all as liquids exept gases just dont have a gravity factor. I can say approaching the 600^3 max in mk 2, I didnt have any issue with installing a buffer system. Without buffers, it suffered immensly.

[somber monolith]

Wish I could go there I’m so underprepared rn still phase 2

[novel heath]

if you scroll down they list the materials in the crash sites

[somber monolith]

Thx I wasn’t paying that much attention to what it said

[novel heath]

buffer system?

[elder apex]

Shouldn't be a problem, I go there even when in phase 1 before getting the rebar gun. Even easier if you pick up the blade runners in the doggo cave first

[somber monolith]

I’m also in green feilds itd be faster to just run around to a closer biome

[grave burrow]

Industrial buffers with a valve on the output (So once fluids/gases leave the buffer on to the nex stage, they cant get back into the buffer causing a "sloshing". A pump will work too but just not needed for gases.

[abstract heron]

my uobject counter is probbaly at 129k in EA when i join andrew

my world 😛

[somber monolith]

W I just found a site with boards

Going there now

[novel heath]

alright thanks

[somber monolith]

Is blue crater dangerous in anyway I’ve never been there