satisfactory

[dim cradle]

but you don't really connect them directly per se

[shrewd palm]

but you dont really need any more than 2 or 3 launchers for hypertube cannons these days because of the new junctions

[steel kelp]

oh do u connect the support to the entrance?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[steel kelp]

like it goes support - entrance - support entrance

surely not

[cunning siren]

@stone mist I've had the inventory upgrades and hand slot upgrades "fail" to upgrade the slot AND I also edited the save file in those instances with SCIM so, maybe you did too? The good news is either way SCIM can also fix the issue with adding the missing slots 🤷

[shrewd palm]

entrance > tube > support(exit) > gap > entrance > tube > support

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch tutorial: hypertube cannon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=tutorial:+hypertube+cannon

[shrewd palm]

this picture is what you have to build

[formal hollow]

does anyone know how to split a conveyer belt on console editon?

[shrewd palm]

use a conveyor splitter

[formal hollow]

dont think ive unlocked those yet

but thanks

[shrewd palm]

you either get them in the tutorial or one of the first tiers

[hard ivy]

yeah, they need to be unlocked

but they're very early

tier 1 - logistics I think

[formal hollow]

hmm im now at hub upgrade 6

ah

[cosmic pawn]

how do i make freight car hold liquid?

[severe sun]

i honestly feel no motivation to continue my phase 2 save, should i just restart?

[hard ivy]

use a fluid freight platform to load it. or load packaged fluid

[cosmic pawn]

i have fluid freight platforms and they aren't loading the cars

[hard ivy]

well, it works the same as with items but with fluids

[steel kelp]

i got it to work ty, i was placing the hypertube entrance the wrong way lmao

now i can go mercer sphere hunting super easily

[dim cradle]

I've been using fluid platforms for my oil but people have told me that it's a lot less efficient than packaging

[shrewd palm]

yes but do you really want to set up a bunch of packagers and send the packages back or use a bunch of plastic or would you rather just have a bigger train

[hard ivy]

packaging can be made up to ~2x more "train efficient" with liquids, and up to 8x with nitrogen

but it costs extra power and more than double the footprint

[dim cradle]

hmm... I might just make one or two packaged carts and overclock one of my pure oil sources to 600 to see how bad it is

This Silicon circuit board seems like the best plan to me for circuits dunno tho

So many and so fast

[formal hollow]

im gonna cry, why do i need so much for space elevator 🙁

[dim cradle]

That's really nothing compared to later steps

Just take it easy

[shrewd palm]

less than pocket change

[hard ivy]

yeah, if you think that's a lot, you might want to upgrade your factories

[formal hollow]

i just started

[shrewd palm]

tbf when you're just starting out and going through the tutorial and everything the space elevator is expensive

[hard ivy]

you don't need the space elevator until you unlock most of the stuff in tier 1 and 2 fyi

[formal hollow]

ohhh

[shrewd palm]

but you can use that time waiting to build mroe stuff or go exploridng

[dim cradle]

dunno why some reddit threads are claiming that they need a lot of silica for aluminum production. I guess that recipe does exist but I prefer the pipeline I got rn...

[shrewd palm]

if you're using defaults you do need a lot

[dim cradle]

Not much silica being used atm

[hard ivy]

it can be entirely eliminated, but if you don't, it does use a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

While it asks for too much amount of items, you only need to build it once.

However, what it sneakily tells you is that, you NEED to expand to be prepared for other things that will eventually arrive.

Take it easy, and expand.

[shrewd palm]

gonna spend like an hour save scumming once i unlock aluminum to get sloppy and electrode

maybe pure if thats an alt

[dim cradle]

I'm using this atm:

Sloppy Alumina + Aluminum Scrap + Pure Aluminum Ingot

I really like it, very simple

It does waste a little Bauxite, but I really prefer it for the space and complexity savings

[hard ivy]

there's pure alu ingot, but it's not the same as the other "pure" recipes

[shrewd palm]

yeah

[dim cradle]

according to the wiki, it's about 0.9 bauxite per ingot which... to me still absolutely craps out ingots lol

[shrewd palm]

afterwards the question will become what impure node i want to sacrifice for my personal production

if i can even get away with an impure

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's enough bauxite on the map that most people aren't gonna care about the loss of bauxite efficiency

[hard ivy]

once you upgrade to a mk3 miner, absolutely

[shrewd palm]

12300 total and you're not gonna even need that much

[white dawn]

Though I do still use quartz if some happens to be nearby

[shrewd palm]

i just need enough to unlock rocket fuel and a couple other things

and also to ideally make a lot of alclad sheets

[dim cradle]

I dunno maybe the electrode one synergizes with later production better

But for now I just like how simple this one is in terms of ingredients.

[shrewd palm]

and then once i get mk3 miners i'll be making a 12000 aluminum/min factory

or maybe not quite that size

[dim cradle]

What are you even gonna do with that

[shrewd palm]

mainly sink points but most of the aluminum alts are nice so those too

[hard ivy]

a lot of ficsite lol

[shrewd palm]

^^^^

[dim cradle]

Ah I'll worry about ficsite when I got to it, that's the one part of the game I haven't experienced yet

I keep realizing over time that I am a... very lazy individual, and that my setups are put it kindly "minimalistic"

except for the stupid meme 10 sloop generators+all the geothermal that I did lol

[hard junco]

hey i need some advice because i dont want to screw this up lol, my first playthrough was maybe last year i stopped in phase 3 because i didnt plan my factories right and got overwhelmed by how many parts i need from diffrent factories tried to use the train and got stuck (couldnt make it look good and didnt even know how to use it properly)

now i am back i have everything organized and finished phase 1 and 2 faster and easier than last time, now in phase 3 and a lot of parts are easy to get thanks to how i setup the startup parts plus using the alt recipes, my question now since i never got to this point is, is it smarter to make more than i need in all the parts for example heavy modular frames i know i need more later but i need only 1 now so ill have 1 to save, and should i wait first to research all the new alt recipes ill get ( i have 17 hard drive to scan) i dont want to build a giga factory for the phase 3 parts only to discover i couldve made a better work or shouldve made more parts lmao

[dim cradle]

Personally if I'm making it, I always stockpile a little bit of it

Not just for personal use but for a jump start in later factories

but that's just me

[shrewd palm]

one thing that might be helpful would be to plan out what you want to do in the future and then play around that

i personally dont have things exactly planned out but i have a general idea of how much i need up until about phase 5 and im building things with that in mind

if you dont want to spoil yourself then (if possible) maybe try and do double what you wanted to?

[hard junco]

thats what i do too but it was easier to do with the first parts but now its kinda hard cuz youll need a lot more ( its already a lot lol) but i think its still worth to always have more

[shrewd palm]

or do what a lot of people do and rush up until phase 5 and then once you have mk6 belts unlocked work on really automating everything

[stray field]

How to check how many items each tier belt moves?

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch conveyor+belt

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=conveyor+belt

[shrewd palm]

check them out in the build menu

[leaden turret]

but also there's a thing for that

[hard ivy]

it's in the description in the build gun

[leaden turret]

I forget what it's called, belt countery wotsit doodad

[shrewd palm]

or just remember that they're all multiples of 60 except mk3

[sullen gull]

Love "technical terms" 😏

[shrewd palm]

mk2 is double mk1, we dont talk about mk3, mk4 is quadruple mk2, by the time you get to higher belts you'll have figured it out

[sullen gull]

Yet, the mk3 still scales on an exponential scale with all the rest 🙂

[shrewd palm]

hold on

[hard junco]

thats the thing you dont know what youll need in the future i did a loooot of adjustments to my current factory because i kept needing more of steel pipes and more of that and that you get the idea, so for phase 3 where u need a lot of parts to make one part its scary to start cuz if i need an adjustment that would take forever to do, but i guess thats part of the game ig

[shrewd palm]

did they do multiple of 30 instead or is it something exponential that i forgot how to figure out

[hard junco]

and yea i dont want to spoil anything about future parts or needs

[dim cradle]

bruh I skipped Mk2 and went to mk3 lol

then I mostly skipped Mk4 and did MK5

[shrewd palm]

you're always going to be needing more space elevator parts so i'd recommend making a decent amount of those at least because each tier "enhances" the last

[dim cradle]

I actually like Mk3 a lot. Many things come in multiples of 30 and I found it pretty neat to set up 9 manifold stacks which make exactly 270

[hard ivy]

it actually fits -1/2 t^5 + 10 t^4 -145/2 t^3 + 275 t^2 -392 t + 240 perfectly

[hard junco]

thats what ill do yea thank you

[shrewd palm]

generally how i play the game is set up basic materials production, rush space elevator to phase 4, set up aluminum and get all that good stuff, rush phase 5, and then its time to really play the game

[brave horizon]

When do I get access to the chainsaw?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch chainsaw

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=chainsaw

[sullen gull]

There was a reddit post that showed it. Can't find it now

[shrewd palm]

i dont really worry about adding more stuff because i'll have to use it in the future because imo thats kind of pointless because you;ll always be expanding

[hard ivy]

lol space elevator parts are the only items I don't automate. don't see a point at all

[dim cradle]

What don't you like about Mk3 anyway?

[shrewd palm]

instead i just set up a good base of building parts and then build everything needed on site or for things like plastic/rubber and modular frame related things i'll make satellite factories

[shrewd palm]

i think it should be 240 instead of 270 because thats a nicer number in my head

[hard junco]

never touched phase 4 let alont 5 lmao and rushing was never my thing and maybe thats my problem i tend to overkill with organization and setting up everything right which stopes me from doing anything thats how i quit the first time but ill try to do things diffrently now

[dim cradle]

That extra 30 comes in real handy though. Really handy.

I legit felt no pressure to move to mk4 from mk3, I was clearing phase 3 trivially with mk3's tbh

[hard ivy]

eh, could be 80 π for all I care

[shrewd palm]

mk4 might be the most useless belt ngl

or most forgettable i think

[hard ivy]

nah, that's mk2

I feel like I use mk4 the longest after mk6

[shrewd palm]

seems like most people get stuck on mk3 for a bit and then rush to mk5

[dim cradle]

Lots of my smelter blueprint stacks are 3x3 vertical grid of smelters, and a lot of early ores make 30/min so mk3 is basically perfect for it

mk5 is seriously just an insane value compared to mk4

It's so easy to make, esp with alt recipes, and has huge stack sizes

[shrewd palm]

mk5 is my favourite i think

[dim cradle]

Can basically fit enough to hook up the entire planet on a dimensional depot stack of aluminum

[shrewd palm]

sure mk6 allows you to basically not have to worry about belt issues but i dont think its looks very good

[dim cradle]

I'd basically rather just go slightly slower in ph3 and just not bother with mk4 just to replace everything with mk5 anyway

[shrewd palm]

exactly

[dim cradle]

ig you could make that argument for the last tier belt if you know how to get there quick tho too

[shrewd palm]

only reason im using mk4s so much in this run is because aluminum has not been a priority

[charred sandal]

Spent 2 hours lf hard drives because I wanted to unlock crystal computer

now I realize its not a manufacturer item

[winged bronze]

Is it me or placing pumps on pipes really buggy on console?

[steel kelp]

its pretty annoying yea

[dim cradle]

Is there a problem with it not being a manufacture item?

[charred sandal]

I already had the recipe

[shrewd palm]

pipes are honestly not that bad i dont know why i was struggling with these

[charred sandal]

I just didnt realize because I was looking in manufacturer for it lmaop

[shrewd palm]

they're just more picky than english teachers somehow

#screenshots message after like 4 hours of troubleshooting its finally flat

[hard ivy]

next time just use the codex lol

[charred sandal]

Yeah i never did figure out wherre that was

[hard ivy]

O or N on PC

[primal path]

Is this game possible to play on xbox cloud gaming?

[shrewd palm]

now i can finally get to work on hmfs and get aluminum going

[dim cradle]

I got like ... 20-30k crystal oscillators in a storage array

Probably going to turn over some of my manufacturing to just use those lol

[feral geyser]

Rigor Motor ftw

[dreamy nova]

If you mean gamepass, no it's not

!consolerelease

[raven axle]

Console Release FAQ

The Console Version was released on: <t:1762261200:F> - Thats <t:1762261200:R>
-# The above time shows in your local time.
XBox Store Link / PlayStation Store Link
More information will be found in #announcements

Will it allow crossplay? -> Between consoles: yes, between PC and console: no.
Can we download ahead of time? -> No.
What about Keyboard / Mouse support on consoles? -> This is not added at launch, but is work in progress and will be added in the future (no ETA available)
Is the game available via Gamepass? -> No

[cunning siren]

The entire time I've been upgrading a Quickwire build, the voice of Goldmember kept saying in my mind... "I love gooooooold!" over and over 😆 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr0gNJ090JA

[versed mesa]

Hi all am taking a little break again an wondering where to place particle accelerators and how many is a good number for producing pellets

[shrewd palm]

you'll want however much is enough to cover the pellets

[green fiber]

As many as you need to make the amount of pellets you need

[shrewd palm]

and as for where to place them, they take a lot of space so wherevers flat and next to the rest of the build

[green fiber]

there is no "ideal number of acclerators to make plutonium"

[versed mesa]

What you mean get rid of the pellets i need the pellets for plutonium

[shrewd palm]

you either have too much and waste materials or too little and have a problem

[shrewd palm]

misread the question

[versed mesa]

Or lmfao

[green fiber]

the machine count and the effective production capacity in % are different things

you could have a bunch of overclocked accelerators or a bunch of underclocked ones

and the actual number of accelerators is something you choose based on if you wanna overclock them or not

[shrewd palm]

yes

also thank you for the pipe manual

genuinely dont know what i would do without it

[green fiber]

wish it wasnt as needed

[versed mesa]

I know for one ill be adding more Plants also soon ish

But theys builds are just temp so I can get close to finish phase 5

[south canyon]

Do coal, sulfur and quartz resource nodes spawn? I've only found surface rocks.

[shrewd palm]

yes

sulphur and quartz can be a little hidden

[hard ivy]

unlock scanning and you'll find them no problem

[shrewd palm]

but coal is almost everywhere

[south canyon]

Found 4 iron nodes right next to each other

[versed mesa]

Then i can try more on focusing on my build layouts and make them better over time and also I can try setting up drones and auto truck stops and more train lines ect am just not currently sure where to bustard with it all like what places will get the deliveries ect lmao

[versed mesa]

Sam is really hidden lol

[versed mesa]

Are they all impure ?

[south canyon]

I think

[versed mesa]

Not to bad i suppose

[south canyon]

Close to my base too

[versed mesa]

Nice

[south canyon]

Iron ore nodes are just... clustered together

[versed mesa]

Maybe use them make n8ce home for them lol

[south canyon]

I'm an autist, I don't build (yet)

(as in, use platforms/walls/slopes)

[versed mesa]

Your Autistic ?

[south canyon]

isn't everyone who plays satisfactory autistic

[shrewd palm]

i think so

[versed mesa]

Idk but I have high functioning Autism

But let's put it this way currently it ain't that high when recovering from Depression and Anxiety

[shy mulch]

I'm undiagnosed but ask anyone who knows me irl and they'll confirm I have every mental health issue going, I'm a riot

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[south canyon]

what reactor type is in satisfactory?

I assume BWR?

[shy mulch]

is it relevant?
radioactive stuff and water goes in, waste and power goes out, don't think too deeply

[shrewd palm]

radiactive stuff comes out too

[south canyon]

radioactive stuff....

[shrewd palm]

wait i cant read

[shy mulch]

yes

[shrewd palm]

i think i should go for more than like 7 hours of sleep

[south canyon]

there are many fuels
in Nuclear Tech Mod, you have Thorium, Uranium and Plutonium fuel categories

and then you have enrichment levels and isotopes for Uranium and Plutonum

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so my Nana youngest brother had thought that there was more wrong with me from when I was little and I only heae this when am older lol

[shy mulch]

I thought mods were off topic here

[south canyon]

oh it's a minecraft mod

[shy mulch]

minecraft is definitely off topic

[south canyon]

idk I just want to know what's down the track for some reason

[shy mulch]

there's all the info you want on the wiki

[south canyon]

true,,,,

aw man

[versed mesa]

Ive got 2 plays with 4 extractors and I cant overclock to 150 % because it struggles for water which mean I would need to add more extractors or just make 1 plant have like 5 extractors

[south canyon]

the nuclear reactor makes electrical energy
(though the coal power plant makes electrical energy too)

[waxen robin]

Anyone know if satasfactory runs on the ps portal ?

[versed mesa]

But i think instead of trying to overclock just keep adding more plants that will have 4 extractors attached to ever 2 plants

And everything single one each will have 2.500 MW

[versed mesa]

I can't se why it would not

@waxen robin the portal mainly i think just displays what's playing on your PlayStation

[waxen robin]

Yea dk how the portals work tbh saw one for cheapish so its that or a steam deck when I get more cash

[versed mesa]

How mych is it for a portal ?

[waxen robin]

200 new buts saw one for 145

Gbp

[versed mesa]

Ok and what about steam deck

[waxen robin]

300+

[versed mesa]

Right

[wicked nacelle]

Steam deck is a full blown computer

[versed mesa]

@waxen robin well some will say get portal and try it and also they will say get steam deck so its in the middle lol

[south canyon]

so is Xbox and PS4/5

steam deck just isn't locked down

[waxen robin]

Yea it runs satasfactory well and alot of uther games but the portal can rn my ps games

[wicked nacelle]

You can USE it as a full blown computer

[south canyon]

I don't think the PS Portal can run any games at all

[versed mesa]

Rog Ally is way better than steam deck

[south canyon]

I'm pretty sure it's just a remote console, basically

[wicked nacelle]

Nope.

[versed mesa]

Yup

[waxen robin]

Yea i got a ps5 so it'll stream games of that

[south canyon]

Like the Wii U gamepad
So if it runs on your playstation, and you can connet the portal, then I don't see why it wouldn't wirk

[onyx yew]

for the miners what is the button to place it on the world grid

[waxen robin]

Also isnt the arora supost to go in the day ??

Put it in screen shots

[south canyon]

What is the world grid......

no, not what is it. How do I use it

[wicked nacelle]

Put a foundation down aligned then put it on that

[leaden turret]

on pc it's ctrl, don't know what it is on console

[waxen robin]

The world is split into a grid pattern thats what the foundations snap to when you trn on snapping

[brave horizon]

It's such a pain to find pure nodes

I've only found normal or impure 😞

[south canyon]

Do you actually need pure tho

Isn't it just a higher production rate

[shrewd palm]

much higher

normal is 2x impure and pure is 2x normal

[gray jungle]

Pure basically makes production a lot quicker

[south canyon]

I've only found impure nodes so far

[waxen robin]

Biome you in

[hard ivy]

then just use seveal normal and impure ones?

The ore's not any different

[tender quarry]

probably grassy fields

[grave burrow]

I was warned by the devs to stay away from the console version. Not only because I bugged and broke their console version last year when visiting CSS, but also because consoles would explode even trying to load my save files XD

[leaden turret]

what about a cut-down version of that one in the youtube video?

[wicked nacelle]

Two normals is same as a pure so don’t worry about it 🙂

[grave burrow]

That one should run on console and totally buildable XD It was a very small factory for sure. Only 1200 screws a minute.

[steel kelp]

I just got to phase 3, am i right in thinking i should prioritise fuel power first? Or is there smth that will make my life easier

[wicked nacelle]

Fuel power is great

[ionic gate]

how to add items to the quick wheel?

[wicked nacelle]

It will completely settle your power needs for quite a while off just a small farm

[steel kelp]

Should i go for depot expansion 2 or the 120 min upload speed

[wicked nacelle]

Just get more spheres and do both 🙂

[reef basin]

whichever you like/need more

[brazen wraith]

On that note, any tips for stingers? I try to go sphere hunting but always end up dying to stingers and losing my stuff

[wicked nacelle]

I always do rate first but then even out with stack size

Stay away until you have a jet pack?

Lots of parts of the game are soft locked by difficulty. You get the tools to do it easier later

[steel kelp]

Just hit phase 3 so wanna do some actual building lol! I went w stack size cuz i dont think most of my items benefit from the 120 p/min upload

[brazen wraith]

I have a jetpack, just a skull issue ig

[wicked nacelle]

You have rod gun thing?

[brazen wraith]

Yeah

[ornate saffron]

rebar for the win

[dim cradle]

I just had to make a tower of 25 refiners to process the caterium from one pure node with a mk2 miner...

[shrewd palm]

move sideways and not backwards unless you have a lot of distance on them

[dim cradle]

imagine if it was a mk3 miner...

[shrewd palm]

you're almost playing matador with them

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah at that point it’s a skill issue. And if you see the big green ones just run. Fly

[shrewd palm]

they're not any more dangerous ngl

they just have way too much health and sometimes fart

[wicked nacelle]

Once you have hover pack and rifle then there are no challenges in the game

[dim cradle]

tbh with just the exoskeleton thing I can dodge most anything from a spitter. The big boars and spiders are another thing though

Mainly spiders.

I'm also used to fighting with bombs, which is kind of slow as sin

[shrewd palm]

anything you cant dodge you can hide from

the rocks from hogs and spitter plasma are both pretty easy to dodge if you hover above them or use a foundation or rock or something to hide behind

[dim cradle]

the hog rocks do knock back though

if you don't have parachute and you're on a sky platform it can be pretty dangerous

[shrewd palm]

so dont get hit

[lyric shale]

you dont need pipeline pumps for nitrogen/gas right?

[shrewd palm]

correct, no headlift for gasses

[dim cradle]

Hard to know when they're attacking if I can't see them... but anyway it's mostly the spiders

spiders... I just build a shack for those

Unless it's an area with a lot of places for them to get stuck the lunge is just hard to dodge for me

The huge green ones especially, hit box the size of texas

Oh this stack makes like 1500 quickwire/min then, but I need 25 constructors...

Maybe 10 if I just OC all of them...

[charred sandal]

So how does blueprinting train tracks work?

Something about being able to zoop them? How do you make the BP?

[reef basin]

same as blueprinting anything else

and no, BPs cannot be zooped

[spice pulsar]

do you guys know when 1.2 drops?

[ionic gate]

is it a common practice to leave your game running overnight so u wake up and found ur factory made alot of items ?

[reef basin]

nobody does, will be in #announcements when known

[reef basin]

no, that's usually indicator of not having enough production

[spice pulsar]

@reef basin thx

[dim cradle]

sure, I do it all the time. Up to you and your preferences

[thorny pagoda]

I usually keep the game idle while I watch a show or movie

[dire pumice]

i need hellp finding sam

[thorny pagoda]

Where did Sam go?

[dire pumice]

bru

[charred sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-rivendell-sam-visits-frodo-gif-27392647

no fun allowed

[undone wind]

There's some sam under the large archway in the grassy fields. Well it was last time I watched @eternal spindle

[thorny pagoda]

Sorry I forgot fun is forbidden we are under contract

Don’t want ficsit to come in here and beat my a for violating that rule

[past axle]

Hey does anyone know how to change direction using hypertube junction on roller?

[dire pumice]

ok thanks\

[undone wind]

Its contractually mandated fun fun fun!

[dense violet]

Probably same as keyboard , hold opposite direction

[past axle]

If I hold backwards I just turn around and holding left or right doesn’t do anything

[shy zenith]

I can’t seem to find any documentation on actual most sink points ever achieved, you would think there would be a decent amount of gifted spectrum individuals who would push that limit and record it

[dire pumice]

on top or bottom bc on top is a purple power slug

[tough trellis]

soooo ive just made enough rocket fuel to fuel 600 generators

[dire pumice]

nice

[reef basin]

that could've been 60 nuclear plants

[dense violet]

oh you mean the spliter junctions, sorry no idea

[dense violet]

if you don't have that option on console I'd probably just have 3 hypter tube entrances in a triangle facing each other as a junction and lean toward the entrance you want

[sturdy mural]

holy slug?
||mk 6 belts so cheap????||

[wicked nacelle]

everything is cheap once you're making a bunch of the stuff they need

[limpid cairn]

Belts are always cheap

[dapper marten]

Guys halp, if I dismantle the hub, do I loose the upgrades and everything?
Or I can just place it again already built to the same step

[small pebble]

my train is showing station unreachable but yet, i can self drive it the entire way without issue....? any idea what this might be?

[wicked nacelle]

your train station is likely backwards -- can you actually dock at it?

[small pebble]

yes

[wicked nacelle]

is it "unreachable" or "unreachable due to signals"?

and is the train that you want to get there able to get there while driving forwards only from an engine at either either end of the train?

[small pebble]

shows station unreachable and also has a locomotive at both ends

i manually can drive it to both locations and dock at both locations lol

[wicked nacelle]

both facing away from the center of the train?

[small pebble]

yes

[sturdy mural]

ficsit does not waste. (you will place it back down the exact same as it was before you dismantled it)

[dapper marten]

Thanks

[wicked nacelle]

and you can drive it without changing directions? like you don't go forwards one way then stop then go forwards the other way?

[small pebble]

yeah just holding W the entire way

[eager pilot]

Hello, new to the discord and satisfactory in general. Currently struggling with coal power, debating about restarting my game

[small pebble]

im restarting my game and going to try and replace the train stations and try again

[wicked nacelle]

so here's what I'd do. drive a bit and then try to turn on self driving. if you get the error drive some more and try to turn it on again. eventually you'll get somewhere where it will turn on. so the problem is between there and the spot before where it wouldn't turn on

I know that kinda sucks but you'll figure out what's going on. it doesn't appear to be any of the usual things that people get wrong so I dunno without seeing it

[sturdy mural]

why restart it?

[eager pilot]

I learned you can multiply power shards plus I’m on the third redo of my first base

[sturdy mural]

multiply?

[ornate saffron]

Do you mean sloop power slugs>?

[sturdy mural]

i need to make turbo motors

[ornate saffron]

same

[dense violet]

there's enough slugs on the map for like 2500 shards, you really didn't need to restart because of that

that's UNslooped

[sturdy mural]

and synth

[dense violet]

spoilers

[eager pilot]

No, the 3 different power slugs you find. I’ve only found one sloop. I just bought it on psn yesterday so any tips are welcomed

[ornate saffron]

ah.... i sugest not ignoreing the mam or the awesome shop... beyond that feel free to ask if you need help. I love the early game discovery so i dont wana spoil anything

[dense violet]

you can't lock yourself out of any content

all the materials that are really useful to be infinite, are.

the tiers are a tutorial. Just play and learn

[reef basin]

I mean technically you can somehow get rid of sloops and spheres (e.g. toiled), or technically hard drives (yeah you can buy them for 100 tickets, but...)

but yeah, nobody's gonna do that 😄

[eager pilot]

I’ve watched a lot of videos so I’ve seen everything up to nuclear. What starting area is the best? I’m on the first map.

[reef basin]

there's no best (and personal recommendation is to not watch videos and instead learn on your own 🙂 )

[ornate saffron]

only one map and Greeny is right Its person preference

[dense violet]

sloops and spheres aren't really useful and you can buy hard drives

[reef basin]

well but not having them will lock you out of some content 🙂

[eager pilot]

How so? If it spoils something please don’t tell me

[dense violet]

you'd have to actively toss them in the void at that point. Multiple times. At that stage it's like pointing out shooting yourself in the face can cause injury

[dense violet]

just alien tech stuff

[reef basin]

well both of them have some content "locked" behind them

not really something you 100% need but it's useful stuff

[dense violet]

soft creative mode mechanics

[reef basin]

well yeah, hence why I said technically 🙂

[eager pilot]

The shards are useful, haven’t experienced using sloops yet since the mam consumed it

[charred sandal]

Can you reverse belts that are made?

[reef basin]

no

[hard junco]

hey i have a question about math, it might sound dumb but how does splitting work? if i have lets say 4 computers in my main belt i use a splitter to use 3 computers in a manufacturer so 1 computer is left if i take that to storage will this work normally? so no matter what numbers you have as long as you have the needed amount for the manufacturer the rest can go to storage?

[quartz tangle]

Hello, and... the 1.2?

[charred sandal]

You would need a smart splitter to do that

[reef basin]

splitters split in "round robin", a.k.a go around one exit at a time. If all exits are free, it splits 1/3 to each, otherwise it skips full exits until they are empty

[charred sandal]

Otherwise it half will go to storage first until the storage is full

[reef basin]

once we know, it'll be in #announcements , until then no reason to ask

[charred sandal]

If you want 3/4 to go without a smart splitter, you need to split it, then split 1 half again and merge that 1/4 back into the other 1/2 and send the other 1/4 to storage.

FWIW you typically dont want to have a lot of storage.

[reef basin]

or just hook 3/4 of machines to next step and remaining machines to storage

[dapper marten]

Guys, how do I remove the body of my offline friend from the world? I'm trying to build but he's in my way lol
In game ofc

[reef basin]

kill it

[charred sandal]

Phew thanks for clarifying

[hard junco]

ok but that takes a lot of space so using a smart splitter is better, and if not used the 4 will be split into 2/2 which wont work until the storage if full is that correct?

[dapper marten]

How lol

[sturdy mural]

violence

[charred sandal]

If you use a smart splitter, you set the stuff you dont need to "overflow". Then 100% will go into the machines you want until it backs up

[dapper marten]

It doesn't work

[reef basin]

Any way you use to kill things

[hard junco]

ok and that would work perfeclty fine right?

[barren arch]

making an oil factory is hell

[charred sandal]

Yep.

[sturdy mural]

wdym?

[reef basin]

Why so?

[sturdy mural]

just keep on hitting

or blow em up if you have the resources

[dapper marten]

Nvm he was one-shot, done
Now does the body disappear?
In game ofc

[barren arch]

everytime i need to go back to my main factory to get more resources cuz i keep forgeting, and its 2000m away 😭

[charred sandal]

Create a hypertube

[barren arch]

but i made a good progress today

[reef basin]

Have you built MAM yet? And scanned mercer spheres?

[barren arch]

ye

[dapper marten]

Nvm I revived him and disappeared
Thanks guys

[barren arch]

i mean

idk if i scanned mercer spheres yet

[charred sandal]

A hypertube cannon can get across the entire map in like 10 seconds

[barren arch]

ill check rq

[reef basin]

A dimensional depot is more legit and takes 0 seconds 🙂

[charred sandal]

And often not enough until You have 100+ mercer spheres found

[primal obsidian]

im trying to automate encased steel beams should i just split my production

or find a new node and make more steel

[reef basin]

You only need like 1 per item this early, so like 15-20

[primal obsidian]

(i have diemensional depot)

[barren arch]

i think i didnt

[reef basin]

I'd recommend to always make new production lines

[primal obsidian]

alright

[charred sandal]

You realize all the upgrade cost mercer spheres right

and starts at like 20 items per minute/max of one stack

[patent oracle]

Hey guys where to find good water source for coal generator?

Like do small lakes work? They tell me, deep water source but i dont find any and this lake is small, but i can build a pump on it (it literally touch the ground)

[charred sandal]

In the water

Yes small lakes work

[fickle tide]

does anyone want to play with me i need friends

[charred sandal]

The small lake in grasslands you can fit like 6 pumps in I think

[barren arch]

its enough, dw

[patent oracle]

Even if the pump touch the ground or is into the ground?

[charred sandal]

If you can place the pump down, it works

If it doesnt work itll tell you not deep enough

[patent oracle]

So if its blue, its good?

[charred sandal]

Yessir

[patent oracle]

Thx

[hollow wyvern]

are those green poison rocks nodes of a resource? can i destroy them?

[cunning siren]

Uranium deposits can not be destroyed by damage and can be harvested

[pastel hedge]

Anyone on Xbox wanna chill and talk?

[cunning siren]

You may be talking about the fart towers though 🤔

[hollow wyvern]

It doesn't say anything about radiation, just hurts, we are talking about the same thing?

[cunning siren]

Gas Pillars are a thing

[reef basin]

You realise you don't need the upgrades to refill your inventory/use the items

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Poison_Gas not a resource only a hazard

[hollow wyvern]

Oh so I can destroy them? They are just useless nuisances?

[shrewd palm]

they're usually hiding something or blocking off an area

[barren arch]

for today i made my first 4 refineries and made some progress, now ill only play this again on saturday 🙏

[hollow wyvern]

Nah 12 hours a day or nothing ✅

[barren arch]

thats what i did today

i left the game open while i was on school and working

[hollow wyvern]

I shit you not I played for 30 hours straight "yesterday"

Help me

[barren arch]

one day ill buy this game

for now ill still play it on steam family

[sturdy mural]

crappy setup that i need to hand feed for the win i got like 500

385* 🙁

[hollow wyvern]

we should be able to destroy the boulders

[cunning siren]

Some you can

[hollow wyvern]

Yea ik you can destroy the cracked ones

[cunning siren]

Ye

I recall some non-cracked ones in Rocky Desert that can be removed with explosives, that was a long time ago though, not sure now

[sturdy mural]

you can remove most of the gray non-terrain rocks with explosives

the deco ones

[hollow wyvern]

I hate when my math adds up to "impossible with a single mk6 conveyor belt"

and i only have mk4

[pine patrol]

WHY IS THE TRACTOR SO FUEL HUNGRY

I HAVE HAD IT FOR LESS THAN 45 SECONDS AND IT HAS EATEN 11 COAL

[shrewd palm]

use solid biofuel instead

its a bit better

[pine patrol]

a bit?

[patent oracle]

Im new to the game, is there a way to put a driller anywhere you want in the later game? Like to drill what you want where you want

[pine patrol]

it better last more than .5 seconds per unit

[shrewd palm]

well they're both bad but its better than coal

[shrewd palm]

only on pre existing resource nodes

theres more than enough resources for anything you could do and if some of them arent where you want them to be then thats just a fun little logistics challenge

[cunning siren]

Impossible? Maybe for a single non-injected manifold and that's easy work around 🤷

[patent oracle]

What do you mean? Sorry im not English so there are some expressions i dont know 😅

[shrewd palm]

no

[patent oracle]

Like to make an optimized factory without pipes and convoyers everywhere

[shrewd palm]

you can only put the miners on existing nodes and not anywhere

if you do them neatly the belts and stuff everywhere can look really good

[sturdy mural]

you cannot
||but you can "transform" ore in later game||

[patent oracle]

How i have nodes here and there so its just look like a mess

[sturdy mural]

"Cable Management" the belts
or use trains

[red thorn]

In the announcement thay say thay will try and have a fix by the morning but what time will thay put an announcement about that in the morning?? Does anyone think?

[sturdy mural]

morning local time?

idk its 2am for me so can't tell ya the exact hour

[patent oracle]

I feel like i should do my factory far away and regroup convoyers together to make them come to my base in one singe way

[shrewd palm]

you'll get better with experience but using straight build mode helps a lot

gets rid of the spaghetti

[sullen gull]

Curved over terrain, ewwry time, all the time!

[sturdy mural]

is there even a single reason to use regular alumina recipe and not sloppy

[patent oracle]

Straight build? Like the thing to make things stick together or do a straight line?

[sturdy mural]

cover the terrain 🗣️

[sullen gull]

Perhaps, for some.

[red thorn]

If thay were going to announcement anything it would be like 8 am or 10 am somthinglike that @sturdy mural

[sullen gull]

Thaaats with foundations... shhh

[sturdy mural]

there is a build setting that makes your belts go in a straight line

[pine patrol]

this is not any better man 😔

[sturdy mural]

automate actual fuel then (if you can)

[pine patrol]

what fuel tho

And i have coal and solid fuel automated

[sullen gull]

When building belts or pipes, you can use R (on pc, not sure for controller/console) to switch "build mode"

[pine patrol]

its just i dont wanna refuel every five seconds and im trying to automate and im concerned

[shrewd palm]

when you're building most things you can change the build mode which changes how the thing you're building behaves

a stack of solid biofuel lasts long enough for me

[sturdy mural]

oil?

[hollow wyvern]

Can solid biofuel melt steel beams

[shrewd palm]

build up a few over time and you've got infinite fuel

[sturdy mural]

what

[sullen gull]

You will need to automate fuel and the delivery of said fuel to the truck stations

And that could be something as simple as feeding coal to the stations, or other variants of liquid fuels later in the game.

[pine patrol]

🇺🇸

How far in is that

[pine patrol]

just realized i was trying to pipe rotors into the fuel input 😔

[patent oracle]

Is it the good way? To make my base far away from nods and then regroup convoyers together to do like 4 or 5 straight lines of convoyers coming directly to my base

[sullen gull]

Whoops

[sturdy mural]

right after steel?

its along with mk4 belts

[sullen gull]

The game is more designed (imo) for building different factories with different items, or practicing "independency"( search this ok wiki). Having a "main base" can become a logistics "nightmare" if you are a first timer.

[hollow wyvern]

Can I make a splitter that outputs a precise amount of items on a certain side

[shrewd palm]

no but manifolds do that

[sturdy mural]

splitter ratios / limiting w/ belts

[shrewd palm]

most of the time things will balance themselves out

[hollow wyvern]

Like my factory necessitates 315 iron per minute which leaves me with extra, and its not like the factory uses more than it is capable of but I don't like that it's being fed more than it needs even if its not actually wasting anything

[sturdy mural]

i mean you could over/underclock machines to make it non-extra

or sink excess

[white dawn]

Better IMO is to just have dedicated machines which make the exact rate you need. Can underclock or overclock to suit

[hollow wyvern]

Yes my factory uses exact amounts, but the original input belts stop and start instead of being a constant exact flow

[white dawn]

Though if you're talking raw ore and want to split it between neighboring factories, relying on self-balancing will generally do the trick (ie: manifold logic)

(can also use smart splitters to "prioritize" one over the other, in a scenario like that)

[sturdy mural]

if you want them in a constant flow, then you can just sink some excess along the line, making steady demand

[hollow wyvern]

Can I sink excess at the beginning and will it balance or only at the end?

[sturdy mural]

i personally sink stuff thats my final product

most points iirc

[pine patrol]

alr

[dense violet]

if you want? you can make multiple factories too

[unique wasp]

The points needed for tickets raises over time, to the point it becomes ludicrous down the road

[hollow wyvern]

Yea it's not even for points, I just don't like how my 480 iron per minute conveyor belt is leading into a factory that only uses 315, so that belt is starting and stopping constantly

[dense violet]

clock your miner down then?

[hollow wyvern]

Oh that's so simple how did I not think of that lol

[sturdy mural]

LMAO

[white dawn]

I always end up clocking my stuff so that they stay on all the time too, but it is worth pointing out that it doesn't actually hurt anything to have them going on/off like that. Things will still work just fine

[sturdy mural]

we are the smartest right here

[pine patrol]

if i set a tactor loading bay thingy to unload will it still load fuel?

[white dawn]

And the belt itself will still appear to stop/start because the belt speed is gonna be 480/min no matter how much is actually being sent down it

[dense violet]

it'll pick up fuel if it needs it yes

[white dawn]

Yep!

[hollow wyvern]

So what if we have 480 iron, one factory uses 315, and the next factory uses 165. Are the belts going to naturally balance out?

[sturdy mural]

yeah

[pine patrol]

epic

[white dawn]

They will, yes! Though if you just use a splitter or something right after the miner, that "new" factory consuming 165 might temporarily starve the original factory until all the machine's buffers fill up and such (since until the new factory "fills up," each side of the splitter would be getting 240/min, which is less than that 315/min that the original factory needs)

You can avoid that by using a Smart Splitter instead -- have the output to your original factory set to "Any," and the output to the new one set to "Overflow"

That way the original factory will be guaranteed to continue getting its 315/min even while the new factory spins up

[hollow wyvern]

Gotcha

[white dawn]

(The original factory temporarily starving while at 240/min might not actually cause problems, of course; the initial machines are likely to have a "full" buffer of 100 ore sitting there, which would take a little while to deplete. I'd bet that things would even out before that actually drops to 0)

[sturdy mural]

(you can always pause a machine or two until it fills up for a clean flow)

[next sequoia]

Bext way to reach height limit acheivement?

[feral geyser]

stand on the freighter when you turn in a milestone

make sure you have keep inventory on

or you will have to climb nearly 3 km and use inhalers to get it back

[next sequoia]

Already finished game

[feral geyser]

make a new save and do it again

or just make a mega ladder

[next sequoia]

Ladder it is

[shrewd palm]

hypertube

[next sequoia]

How(

[dense violet]

look up hyper tube cannon in youtube

find a recent version

[next sequoia]

But doesn't it have to be on a surfac?

[sullen gull]

Look up how to make a hypertube cannon and point it up

[dense violet]

... and?

[sullen gull]

Nah

[dense violet]

do you mean the achievement or the cannon?

[peak wasp]

Man this discord hates me lol

[sullen gull]

So long as you make it to the achievement point.

[next sequoia]

Kk ty

[peak wasp]

I find it kinda weird you can't link a article on any of the offtopic boards

[sullen gull]

But, My vote is always for doing it by ladder, pretty good "immersion" imo

[shrewd palm]

pioneer space program is pretty good too

[sullen gull]

Er, I was under the impression that the off-topic channels were a bit more lenient with links?

[tough trellis]

im not quite there yet

close, but not there, I did already start processing uranium though

I just happen to know not to do nuclear until I Can process the waste

[sturdy mural]

or load a save-

[tough trellis]

and for that I need the aprticle accelerator

[haughty torrent]

How and why are some people moving through the game so quick? I'm only on my first playthrough but I figure it's better to just take my time with it.

[sullen gull]

Different strokes for different folks honestly

[tough trellis]

everybody plays how they want to, sandbox games are like that. Im impatient and a minmaxer at heart, but Im not a speedrunner. So Ill hit it hard and fast until I hit a brick wall and then ill stop and smell the roses

[sullen gull]

If patience isn't an issue, a single machines worth of items is plenty to be able to progress.

[next sequoia]

I can't figure out how to use a hypertube exit thing. What hotkey will it be losted as in settings?

No it is e just doesn't work

Switched to diff key and now works

[sullen gull]

Not sure how you mean... with a hypertube, you have an entrance and now, sometimes junctions to take you different directions.... so long as you connect entrances to power, you just have to be "near" them to get "sucked in"

[next sequoia]

When it has a split kff

I died bc I went to high does that mean I got it lol

Yesss

[sullen gull]

Lol, yeah, I'd say if you got to that point, you should've gotten it.

[wicked nacelle]

The game punishes you for trying to do too much early. You don’t have the tools to do much more than what you need at each tier

[tough trellis]

that is true when you get to T5 and up but before that its whatever you wanna do within reason

but Im not really even talking about doing too much too early, you can focus on everything you need to do to progress the main objective and thats what Im referring to

[wicked nacelle]

No I meant the opposite. Overproducing early is a huge waste of effort.

[tough trellis]

without decorating etc

oh

[peak wasp]

Does this look right?
#screenshots message

[brave horizon]

Does anyone else on console have constant crashing issues on main menu

[shrewd palm]

theres on issue mainly on xbox with epic logins rn

[sturdy mural]

if those are input pipes then i'd rather not

[hollow wyvern]

Paralysis by analysis killing me

[gritty zealot]

Hi guys are your factories satisfying?

[hollow wyvern]

No

[sturdy mural]

no ❤️

[hollow wyvern]

Im playing Saddestfactory

[gritty zealot]

Unacceptable

[shrewd palm]

i'd dare say mine are satisfactory

[gritty zealot]

Fantastic

[hollow wyvern]

Satastfactory

[gritty zealot]

Sadistfactory

[hollow wyvern]

Yea that's what i meant lol

God I'm so lost

Let's say, theoretically, and yes I know this method sucks, shut up, i get it, i wanted to bring every raw material in the game to one spot. Obviously I don't want to use a shit ton of conveyor belts. Do I use trains? 'm about to unlock them

[dense violet]

sure. But your computer will explode before you can use it all

[delicate elk]

is there an ending to the game this is my first time playing since before 1.0

like storywise

[sturdy mural]

yes
finish phase 5

[spark sky]

Hm, ladders work nicely inside of H-Beams, as long as they aren't too close to something that you can't get past inside of the H-Beam.

[hollow wyvern]

I'm assuming this a CPU bottleneck?

[dense violet]

yes and no

the story is... very minimal.

it's mostly a sand box

[dense violet]

basically

[hollow wyvern]

Hm

[sturdy mural]

much stuff 1 spot
pc goes ow

[tough trellis]

the artifact conversations are pretty neat lol

[dense violet]

oh it's not bad , you just don't interact with it much.

[hollow wyvern]

So the factories that are out of render distance just say "how much can i produce in a minute * minutes passed" im assuming

[dense violet]

they dramatically cut the story for 1.0 sadly

[dense violet]

... whatever they do when they aren't around you specifically (and other giant factories) will overal impact things less

less than having everything in one spot anyway

even if you spread out the process all over the map evenly you wouldn't likely be able to use all the resources on the map to the end points

even with the best computer

commercially purchased anyway.

[hollow wyvern]

Okay what if I have for example 16 megafactories in a 4x4 on the map, assuming a perfect world where all the nodes are evenly scattered across the map

Could I then have a single train at each megafactory transporting all the resources to each

[dense violet]

you'd want multiple trains. Each platform doesn't have that much throughput

and you still wouldn't be able to process every resource pm available on the map to end tier products

[hollow wyvern]

I love this game but I cannot figure out how to perfect it and thus will be abandoning this life for one of peace and tranquility in the sprawling jungles of Thailand

[dense violet]

imo - treat all the tiers like a tutorial

unlock everything

then treat the game like a true sand box and create a world goal. Likely nothing you will have built will work 'perfectly' with your goals so you'll need to build dedicated final systems

which honestly is a lot easier to build than systems designed to change and grow

[delicate elk]

what do people do with materials past phase 5 or is that a spoiler

[peak wasp]

They input into a bunch of refineries that come back down into the resource floor

[hollow wyvern]

Should I play through the game until I unlock and understand everything and then create a new save file with everything unlocked at the beginning? Is that possible?

Probably be quicker to just delete everything I've built and keep the resources

[dense violet]

sink them?

[dense violet]

it's a sand box game.

[sturdy mural]

yeah i'd avoid doing that
don't have pipes pump up into machines

[dense violet]

easier to just stay on the same map

[peak wasp]

Why?

[dense violet]

keep the basic factories making all the parts you need for the new ones

though I've restarted maps several times.

[dense violet]

bottom feeding generally causes huge flow issues if not managed properly

[hollow wyvern]

It feels like a game designed for perfectionists with the problem being it can't be perfected

There's gotta be a way

[shrewd palm]

thats how it gets you

[dense violet]

it's a sand box. you can do what you want 🙂

you can complete phase 5 with the dirtiest and sloppiest systems set up.

[sturdy mural]

if 0.1m^3 missing from pipe then no fluid in machine for you

[peak wasp]

Okay so what I have is a single pipe that pumps 600m3 of water into that pipe system it then splits into 12 refineries that consume 20m3 worth of water

That's 240m3 of water

[dense violet]

fresh water and crude oil systems TEND to be more amenable to pipe shenanigans. But I wouldn't bet on it working

[hollow wyvern]

I think I've been playing for 2 hours today and done nothing in the game cause I want everything to be absolutely perfect

[ember gyro]

sup fellas

[dense violet]

also, just have them pump 240 water

[peak wasp]

So I could more then double that amount and be fine

[dense violet]

back flow stutters production. That's not a solution

[peak wasp]

Oh that's just iron, I still need to feed copper and and criterion

[dense violet]

I super wouldn't feed different systems on different branches from one source

have dedicated pipes from A to B, no splits or merges.

also avoid bottom feeding 😛

[peak wasp]

I mean I don't see why any of this would be a issue at all because all this water is coming into one factory

[dense violet]

branches in fluid manifolds can create back flow

are they possible to do? sure. You need to be careful about it though

I 100000% wouldn't add branched manifolds to a bottom feeding system

[peak wasp]

I mean all I did was have a main line and each one of the branches feeds a single machine

[dense violet]

I'd have to see the set up

[peak wasp]

I'll show it

[dense violet]

but if you're bottom feeding you need to dedicate teh whole system to helping it work properly

that means avoiding anything else that could possibly be a less than stable choice

[peak wasp]

okay behold my insanity

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

doesn't really show the branches? are they just on the same main line?

[peak wasp]

That's the entire system yes...each of those pipes going up enters a machine and that pipe on the ground is a main line

[hollow wyvern]

I can't do this I'm getting off

[spark sky]

Hm, I'm trying smart splitters for the first time. I have 4 constructors making alien protien from each of the 4 animal remains, with one input storage and a loopback so if any machine's input is full, the remains get recycled through until the machine can take them.

[hollow wyvern]

Differential equations was easier than this

[dense violet]

well that's something. And I mentioned fresh water is more amenable to pipe shenanigans. But I wouldn't gamble on it working just like that

[peak wasp]

I also had the pipe feeding the system do a U

[dense violet]

give it a try.

it's a challenge to make reliable working bottom feed systems

[hollow wyvern]

Is there perhaps a Youtuber that covers philosophy in this map, balancing a global hypertube/item transportation/power system

[peak wasp]

I mean I tested it plus used a U to feed it so the water is pushing down into the pump feeding the rest of the system...it works fine and has been for quite some time now about a hour now

[cunning siren]

Woh... that sounds way more complex than what I made for this idea

[dense violet]

Yeah, fresh water + lower flow needs. Just don't expect this work work all or even most of the time depending on which fluids and stages you're on

[dense violet]

not really, there's no single answer to things

what's your specific question?

[peak wasp]

Wait how would other fluids be a issue

[spark sky]

Well, I used to have just one constructor and the input container, but then I could only put one type of animal remains in the container, then make sure the constructor was set to use that animal remains.

[dense violet]

because fresh water and crude oil deal with pipe shenanigans better. as mentioned 4 or 5 times

[dense violet]

I suspect because their extractors have bigger internal buffers.

and fewer machines outputing the initial fulid

[peak wasp]

Oh I always like to use buffers inside of a system... Small ones because big ones just mask problems

[dense violet]

both will either do nothing or mask/cause problems

just don't include buffers with your manifolds.

[peak wasp]

But yeah I don't get how anyone has issues with fluids...I've never once had a fluid act strange

[cunning siren]

Right, I made a single input box and then split it off to seperate constructors for each type of remains and slug then dumped shards into another box and meat got sent to DNA constructor and then to sink 🤷 #screenshots message

[dense violet]

ime a lot of people are very bad at noticing stutters

basically every time someone has gone 'this system works perfectly' and sent me their save, I've found yellow lights in 30 seconds

[peak wasp]

Oh what I do is check in on a new system for the next hour

[dense violet]

oh sure but you can easily have stuttering that flicker on and off

[spark sky]

But, did you use smart splitters? If not, how did you get the right stuff to the right machine?

[cunning siren]

OH yea, 3 of them at the bottom of the screenshot

[peak wasp]

The only issue I am having right now is I'm not using enough of the iron bars for the machines to run 100% of the time but I intend to create a awesome sink

So question for you...awesome sink lines...I can merge as many random items as I want on a line as long as the belts can keep up yes?

[cunning siren]

What part are you not sure on?

[dense violet]

sure

[spark sky]

Um, you said mine sounded more complicated? Yours looks much more compicated.

[peak wasp]

So in this case it would feed excess iron ingots, copper ingots and criterion ingots into the awesome sink

[cunning siren]

It looks that way cuz I wanted it to be as compact as possible 🤷 It's much more simple than it looks

[peak wasp]

Therefore causing the system to run 100% of the time to test for any problems with the system

[dense violet]

can you just not have all the protein in one container, sorted to their own individual containers, and then fed to machines? removes the loop back

[dim cradle]

I just put belt rate monitors at the input and output. If it matches what I'm expecting, I'm fine.

[cunning siren]

I can send you the blueprint file if you want to check out the smart splitters on it

[dense violet]

there's no fluid monitors.
belt monitors are also not reliable

[peak wasp]

Basically I think the reason why I have such few issues in my factory is I stress test everything all the time all at once... I have so many items just going into awesome sinks just to make sure

[dim cradle]

Haven't actually had any issue with fluids tbh

pretty straightforward, just use up your output.

[dense violet]

As mentioned previously, most people are bad at noticing momentary yellow stutter flickers of their system

[peak wasp]

I just check for 100 efficiency percentages in my systems I am having issues with

[dim cradle]

I see it all the time in manifolds when it's getting up and running, esp towards the end branches.

[dense violet]

efficiency meters also not very reliable.

if they say 100% they are probably 100%
if the ysay 98%? they could also be 100%

[peak wasp]

Yeah the manifolds mean you have to wait longer to see if it's running right

[dim cradle]

I do try to balance all my inputs and outputs but lately the numbers have been getting really annoying so I just ballpark it.

[peak wasp]

In my case its always 100%

[spark sky]

I'm making this part of my revised biomass power plant, so don't have room for but one container. #screenshots message

[dim cradle]

like literally nothing lines up and I can't even set a clock value that will make them line up

[dense violet]

why not just make it an external component at the bottom of the tower?

[peak wasp]

Because certain points in my system I make sure hit 100% using awesome sinks

[dim cradle]

not without switching from controller to kb&m to put in decimal percentages.

[peak wasp]

Because some things need to be sure to work at 100%

[dim cradle]

I think sinks are a total last resort tho

wasted output

[peak wasp]

Not such thing as wasted output

[spark sky]

I'm trying not to have to rebuild the whole tower from scratch. I've already had to scrap 2 floors of biomass burners and rebuild them as a middle section to the building (due to some blueprint limitations).

[peak wasp]

In a game with infinite resource's I can afford to dump any kind of overflow

[dense violet]

thats why you have it as an external section doing it's own thing.

[candid torrent]

curse of water ‼️

[dim cradle]

Considering higher tier items are always worth more idk. Idc personally, I'm not super balancer person but strictly speaking I think it's wasted...

[peak wasp]

Sure I'll have a chest filled with a item in case I need it but there is no way I'm not using 100%

[dim cradle]

lol you should see my aluminum storage stack

I might have went overboard

[spark sky]

I would have no place to logically input the results to feed them into the solid biomass production (the power storage units are in the way). This way they are integrated, and I just have to have an output that I can switch (with another smart splitter) between solid biomass production (within the tower) and alien DNA production (external to the tower and feeding into the Awesome Sink). Of course, everything will be Somerslooped.

[dim cradle]

the sushi dude isn't here but I'm thinking about it and extra product disposal might be one place it makes sense

Assuming you're not tossing out more than a belt capacity worth of items, in which case what are you even doing lol

[vapid idol]

Hi all. I have 6 refineries all outputing 100 HOR each. I run a MKII pipe past them all and connect each to it with a T at each one. I then run the output into a pump and into a fluid buffer, which I make sure does not fill up. All the pipes are at the level of the output interface of the refineries, so there is no "uphill" involved. The first refinery (ie the one fartherest from the output) keeps backing up?

[dense violet]

buffers cause flow issues is why

process the HOR into something else and sink it

[spark sky]

Also, you don't need a pump if it's not going uphill.

[dense violet]

pump can, in some situations, help keep directionality in systems too

[vapid idol]

ok, if I remove the pump, and run the pipe into something that uses 600 HOR, same thing happens.

[dense violet]

it's a fairly niche use though

[dense violet]

the layout is likely off. Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images

[vapid idol]

Thanks, but the layout is simple as it gets, as described :))

[dense violet]

it's often impossible to diagnose pipe systems w/o actually seeing them. Often simple little things can bugger up a whole system if you don't know what you're doing

[spark sky]

Two things, just from what I saw in the videos. If Fluid Buffer is inline, you might try a T and putting it off to the side. Also, you might move the whole manifold (the pipe collecting the fluid from the refineries) below the level of the refineries to keep all the fluids flowing away from the refineries.

[limpid cairn]

I wonder when the devs add circuits to the game

[spark sky]

What kind of circuits? Are you talking about logic circuits, like in Minecraft?

[dense violet]

yeah most fluid videos don't have very good suggestions

[dense violet]

there's no dynamic production, no need for them

[spark sky]

They were ones from Doc.

[limpid cairn]

mainly like the average stuff most games have

[spark sky]

The only game I've played that had "circuits", as in logic circuits, is Minecraft.

[dense violet]

adding fluid buffers anywhere to fluid manifolds suggests a dubious content creator at best

they, at best, do nothing, at worst, cause or mask problems.

apart from train platforms where you need them and have to be managed properly

[spark sky]

I don't know, all I know is that he has used them, and made suggestions about how to use them. The ones I'm using for my coal generators are currently inline, not sure if I have room to place them off to the side. I'm going to try them as is, before I scrap them. That's a project for another day, right now I'm working on rebuilding this biofuel power plant, almost from scratch.

[dense violet]

"they, at best, do nothing,"

if you know how to manage them, then you can have them and they'll do nothing. The bad thing about them is if you don't know how to manage them, you'll have issues.
so why have a possible failure point with no benefit

[spark sky]

So, are there any other "nearly useless" pieces of infrastructure in the game?

[dense violet]

fluid buffers are critical to fluid transport for trains. So not useless
But valves also don't behave the way people expect them. People have created things using them but there's more reliable and simpler solutions w/o them

[spark sky]

I guess that I still have a question for the devs, then, "Why did you make these?"

[dense violet]

well buffers still have a clear use
valves make sense as a piping concept. And it's not impossible to create things that do work with them. But using them in a system like that is like the gymnastic meme of someone walking across the map vs jumpting through fiery hoops with a jet pack (working with valves)

for example peopel create water towers with valves. It's an exploit. Near pointless and extra work. But still a thing

and that's actually a reliable mechanism with a valve. But it has to be set to zero

[spark sky]

Oh yeah, I saw that, it provides head lift without any actual connection that flows (just a closed valve).

[dense violet]

yup
I hate them.
Extra dumb with dumb sauce and extra work
But I've never seen them actually cause issues with a system so, eh, whatever

I suppose the only real issue with them is some people advertise them as somehow solving flow issues when all they do is create headlift

[spark sky]

In a way, that seems kind of like cheating.

[dense violet]

that's just pipe superstition

[dense violet]

yeah an exploit. But... an exploit that takes more work than just slapping down a pump

[spark sky]

Well, considering you have to build a pipe system to fill it, first, then remove that pipe system... Yeah.

[dense violet]

It's one of the things that irks me about them xD

it's more work for basically no benefit as pumps are essentially free

I think some people just like to think they are getting away with something maybe?

or the thing I mentioned before about some peopel telling them it fixes flow issues

[spark sky]

Well, I'm going to get back to re-designing this blueprint. At least I don't have to rebuild all of the bottom of the power plant.

[plain gate]

factory carts

[dim cradle]

Those two valves I put in the aluminum plant seem to be doing just fine. Guess it mostly works ok

Just set them 239.99 just to create a tiny bit of shortage.

[spark sky]

I came up with this so I wouldn't accidentally climb the back side of the ladder and so I wouldn't climb over the top of the ladder. #screenshots message

You have to place the ladder first, though.

[dense violet]

nice 🙂

[spark sky]

Perhaps some day they will come up with a U-Channel we can use for this purpose.

[dense violet]

u channel?

[spark sky]

Yes, just a flat back and the two sides siticking out in one direction, like a U instead of an H.

[dense violet]

for the ladder? I can't really picture what you mean sorry

[spark sky]

Instead of the H-Beam.

[dim cradle]

If you do it right you can stand on top of the ladder and throw bombs though. It's pretty great

[spark sky]

I don't want to throw bombs in my power plant.

[dense violet]

I'd have to see a sketch :\

[dim cradle]

Why not, bombs are amazing for every day use

[spark sky]

Hold on...

[pine patrol]

Are worlds random? As in spanwn location and general world structure (cliffs water flals etc)

[dense violet]

it's one single static world

[pine patrol]

alr

[dim cradle]

idk about spawns being random or not tbh

[dense violet]

theres very little that's random.

[ivory condor]

Indeed i use bombs every day myself as well

[dense violet]

you know those little resource rocks you can mine and they disapear? Some of those are a bit random

[dim cradle]

Bombs are the way

Okay but say you choose a biome to spawn in, is the exact spawn location within that biome at least a little random or 100% static too

I'm guessing static because they kind of seem to have intended "starting areas"

[pine patrol]

the “single use” ores?

[dense violet]

the spawn location is within a certain radius of a point. But hte map itself is static

[dense violet]

yup. Some of those are a bit random

some will always appear in the same spot

[dim cradle]

Okay then yeah the spawn location is a little random. I usually wonder around a lot before placing the hub anyway tbh

[ivory condor]

Actually a really good question

[dim cradle]

In the desert I decided on that spot right beside the waterfalls, has been pretty good actually

near enough to a lot of major stuff, free water from above

[dense violet]

if you look at the SCIM map I think you can see the possible spawn areas as circles with the right layer?

its like... 1.5km wide or something? never really measured it

[dim cradle]

That's actually a pretty decent variance for early game

[dense violet]

you can run to any point within that circle pretty fast 🙂

[dim cradle]

I guess I can see why there are so many "pseudo starting areas" as I went out from my base, with like a cluster of iron

[dense violet]

the map is well designed for that

[pine patrol]

im sure theres like a map genie that would be interesting to look at

another question do power slugs respawn

[dense violet]

there's a good online interactive map - but it's a 100% map exploration spoiler

[dim cradle]

at the beginning my spot was actually kind of crap because I didn't actually park at any cluster of iron...

[feral salmon]

Anyone else play on Xbox?

[dense violet]

no but you can make like 5000 shards on the map, so you won't run out

[pine patrol]

figure

[pine patrol]

alr

[dense violet]

iron is the basic starter 😛

[dim cradle]

I feel like I kind of parked in between starting locations lol

They were all a certain distance out except one copper and some stuff

[dense violet]

if exploring is at all interesting I suggest avoiding it until you feel you've thoroughly explored stuff. I was glad I did, it's such a pretty interesting map to explore.

[dim cradle]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I have like 800 shards sitting around from when I gathered all of the sloops

took a lot of exploration, wasn't all bad. Screw spiders though

[subtle pewter]

My friend on Xbox can’t invite me to his (I’m on ps5). Both of us are logged into epic but both of us can only see other people on the same console types. What’s the issue?

[dense violet]

probably working out the kinks. it only landed like a day ago

[subtle pewter]

That doesn’t really answer my question. Is that an official answer or what’s the deal? Like is there a thread somewhere online to report this?

[feral salmon]

I can’t even log into epic without my game crashing

[spark sky]

A Channel or U-Beam (with just the part that is not embedded in the wall). #screenshots message

[dense violet]

I'm sure it's been reported through the webpage #faq but you can look at their site or google? doubt it'll be a fast solution

[dense violet]

ahh ok. I doubt we'll see that sort of option sadly. But at least there's a work around. Clipping things is a classic design solution

[spark sky]

Well, my intent was for something freestanding, taking up just the space needed to cover the back of the ladder.

[dense violet]

could you clip a basic beam behind it to fill the gap?

[spark sky]

Again, that takes up space that I can't walk through if I need that space.

I can put a piece of beam behind the ladder at head level, that I can walk under, but that won't let me climb the ladder, but that would loolk strange.

[pine patrol]

i wont 👍

Another another question

are there lakes so big you cant see the other side of or is that just endless ocean?

[spark sky]

I guess what I'd really like is something the width of a ladder, vertical, but with the thickness of the center part of the H-Beam (or at most, the thickness of a catwalk).

Sort of a vertical plating.

It could come in different patterns and materials, like the foundations, but be used mostly for decoration, similar to sign useage, but with these other materials/textures.

[rigid vessel]

#screenshots message any tips?

[dense violet]

just the ocean

[pine patrol]

okay then i am near an edge then

[dense violet]

seems like a fine spot? iirc theres iron nearby

[dense violet]

you could check out the structural solutiosn mod? might have what you're looking for

[rigid vessel]

yeah theres 3 pure iron 3 pure coal and 1 normal coal. is there anything i should as to how i should set it up though?

[spark sky]

There might, but I am hoping that, someday, a vanilla solution is added to the game.

[pine patrol]

there is a thingy i have been using as a ladder ill see what the exact name is

[dense violet]

you probably want muiltiple floors as it's a tight spot, maybe leave some space for expanding

[pine patrol]

stackable conveyor pole #screenshots message

[rigid vessel]

I mean i already have a 20x20 foundation down, is that nowhere near big enough? 😭

[dense violet]

yup, useful for that 🙂

[dense violet]

no idea 🙂 depends how much youre making
get used to multiple floors. Makes life easier

[pine patrol]

i use it to brute force tf outa slugs

[rigid vessel]

Well the best I have on this world is mk2 miners, and mk2 belts. I have mk3 unlocked but hand crafting steel beams takes too long for me to be bothered enough to use them

[spark sky]

You climb that instead of a ladder?

[latent ledge]

They have ladders on them

[pine patrol]

you can climb most ladder looking things

[pine patrol]

yup on both sides

[odd remnant]

I have a question, are we allowed to use elevators as transports for items?

Is that even possible to do

[south canyon]

how do I silence this popup

I'm playing on mac, which is likely the case

[pine patrol]

?

[rigid vessel]

What popup?

[latent ledge]

Haven't unlocked em yet but I assume it is with vehicles as the vehicles have inventories

[south canyon]

no image perms

[pine patrol]

ADA?

[south canyon]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[rigid vessel]

Oh you cant put images in this chat go to #screenshots

[odd remnant]

What do you mean unlocked?

[pine patrol]

#screenshots link a message from that to here

[south canyon]

it's complaining about AMD drivers having known bugs and asking me to upgrade

when I launch

[spark sky]

That wouldn't fit in my nice, (relatively) safe ladder hole. #screenshots message

[rigid vessel]

Update your drivers

[latent ledge]

I don't have access to elevators yet

[dense violet]

you'll get the mfast enough

[south canyon]

Can't

[ember gyro]

hi guys

[south canyon]

I want to silence the popup instead

[odd remnant]

Then why answer lol I was asking if someone who knew if that was possible

[cunning siren]

TIL: One can customize different parts of the hub individually

[rigid vessel]

You cant. The only way to silence it is by updating your drivers. If you cant then you needa deal with it, sorry

[odd remnant]

So again is it possible to transport items from a place to an elevator?

[south canyon]

Also my Satisfactory is launching in 4K, How can I change the resolution to 1080p

[latent ledge]

Seemed like you may have been getting ignored and it's better to give an idea than not address it at all

[south canyon]

I don't have any AMD drivers

[rigid vessel]

Options > video > resolution > lowest it can go is 1024x768

[south canyon]

Can't click the resolution option

[rigid vessel]

Then why is it asking you to update them?

[rigid vessel]

Bro

[south canyon]

Because that's what's being spoofed

[rigid vessel]

Wdym spoofed? What does spoofed mean?

[south canyon]

That's what the translation layer is spoofing

[rigid vessel]

What does spoofing mean dude 😭

[south canyon]

Faking

[rigid vessel]

So your faking specs to try and play the game?

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing you have a 4k display? If so instead of going down to butt ugly 1080p on a 4k display give the Upscaling Method: TSR setting a try. Works like magic for me, I also use Screen Percentage: 50 cuz I'm using a 1080 on a 4k display 😆 60 FPS 🤷

[dense violet]

the space elevator? sure.

[south canyon]

Yeah, kinda

[odd remnant]

No not that

Never did I mention that

[dense violet]

I'm not scrolling all the way up

other elevators move people not items per min

[south canyon]

Not sure if upscaling works on Apple GPUs

[dense violet]

you'd need players carrying items in the elevator

[south canyon]

Is there any way to pause the game

[cunning siren]

One way to find out 🤷

[rigid vessel]

Thats probably not a good idea dude. The game is made to run on specific specs, trying to fake those on a worse machine/different software, its going to either break or wont run
Properly at least

[south canyon]

This is better though

or rather, This machine is certainly more powerful than the recommended specs

[odd remnant]

So why does the main screen show an elevator open and look like something is transferring something

[rigid vessel]

But your running on Mac arent you?

[south canyon]

Also, is there freecam?

[dense violet]

no idea, never really paid attention to it. share an image?

[dense violet]

hit P for photomode

[south canyon]

waow thanks

[dense violet]

there's a bunch of photomode stuff, prob check the wiki

[rigid vessel]

#screenshots message the game specs specify windows. the hardware isnt the only thing you need to properly run a game

[odd remnant]

I will tag you in it on the #screenshots

[south canyon]

...........

[rigid vessel]

What?

Am I missing something?

[south canyon]

Yes

You can run Windows apps on macOS

There are several ways to do so

[rigid vessel]

Ok so you have Windows, your specs are fine

[odd remnant]

you see what I'm talking about?

@dense violet

[cunning siren]

TIL: One can unlock Nitro Rocket Fuel before unlocking Blender 🤔

[rigid vessel]

But the pop up keeps coming up because the spoofing your doing obviously has outdated drivers

[south canyon]

I'm not using Windows
I'm jsut asking if there's a way to silence the popup

[rigid vessel]

Not without updating the drivers no

[dense violet]

that just looks like a walk way? don't see items going through it

[odd remnant]

Load the game up and you will see

[south canyon]

again, I don't have any AMD drivers on my system

[rigid vessel]

Exactly. So the popup will keep coming up

[south canyon]

anyway... the popup occurs every time I launch and it blocks launch until I dismiss it

[odd remnant]

I don't think I can post clips on #screenshots

[latent ledge]

#screenshots message
That is what rides down the elevator

[cosmic pawn]

im confused on why the freight cars aren't being filled with fluid despite being at a fluid platform

did i possibly build it wrong

[rigid vessel]

Are they fluid cars?

[odd remnant]

So why does it look like something is being transferred?

[latent ledge]

And it has 1 inventory slot

[dense violet]

oh that' a factory cart. Probably driven.

[latent ledge]

Because it drives into the building?

[odd remnant]

Oh okay

[cosmic pawn]

they are freight but it says they can hold fluid in it's description

which is confusing me

[odd remnant]

I thought it was that you could transfer items from bottom to top

[rigid vessel]

I thought fluid could only be put in a fluid car....
Im not sure sorry

[cosmic pawn]

idk when i can get fluid cars

[dense violet]

they fill up the empty car with either fluid or solid containers as needed

[rigid vessel]

Ooooh ok mb