satisfactory

[sturdy mural]

dont you need steel for bombs iirc?

[dim cradle]

Yeah you do, but not too hard to get to just steel tbh

just some pipes and away you go

[zenith fractal]

you need pipes, it's either you use steel or use the iron alt

[sturdy mural]

i mean, before having plates / concrete

[cosmic pawn]

now i got to think where i will put the oil extractors

[sturdy mural]

you need to explore for the drive :trollface:

[cunning siren]

Build gun is "best gun" early game vs. the environment 4 sure

[dim cradle]

Well no like I explored a bunch while having no offensive methods, I'd just wall off enemies. The steel and bombs you can get at your own pace

[dense violet]

use different recipes you collect with hard drives

[sturdy mural]

where you building rn?

[zenith fractal]

i mean, for oil extractors there's nodes marked for thhem

[dense violet]

figure out how much you're making

set up a system that consumes it

[zenith fractal]

you can prolly scan for crude oil now

[cosmic pawn]

i can

[dim cradle]

Not sure what you mean by this? 🤔

[zenith fractal]

oil extractors are like miners

they extract it on the node

you do not get a choice of where you place it

[cosmic pawn]

closest spot is near my steel factory

[grim carbon]

i just put a screenshot up on #screenshots i tried to find and got killed in the process

[zenith fractal]

then it is time for petroleum

[dense violet]

yup stop going through it w/o protection.

[grim carbon]

i didn't know what they were until it killed me

[zenith fractal]

they do that

[dense violet]

you get sound and notifications of yoru health dropping. Pay attention to that

[grim carbon]

i wasn't looking for toxic clouds, just those rings

[sturdy mural]

didnt you notice getting hurt?

[cosmic pawn]

the question will be is how i will get to that spot

[dense violet]

wdym?

[cosmic pawn]

for oil

[grim carbon]

yes, but it was too late

[zenith fractal]

I guess build ladders or bridges

[cosmic pawn]

the group of 4 near the rocky desert

[dense violet]

run over there ? foundations to help yo uget places? just like getting anywhere

[cosmic pawn]

true

[dim cradle]

Yeah that's why I said just make iron plates and concrete and you can get anywhere lol

Ugh yeah I think I'm only going to do this crazy load balancing for i/o for these smelters, you guys are right manifolds are probably a lot easier for everything else esp if they're hooked together automatically. Was a silly challenge quest lol

[sturdy mural]

why are you even trying to load balance them?

/genq

[dim cradle]

Basically wanted to have exactly that much going into up to 9 things, but could be 2 if I wanted I guess...? Just me taking usage efficiency to an extreme

[sturdy mural]

i mean
If its all the same item in the same quantities across the machines
then you're still good to use a manifold

its just that it will fill machines one after the other

[dim cradle]

Is there no autoconnect mode for splitters and mergers btw

seems pretty basic

[cunning siren]

Yea, gotta' perfectly measure belts and do all sorts of voodoo magic to make them the proper length to auto-connect 😆

Same with pipes

[dim cradle]

... Isn't this blueprint autoconnect supposed to auto connect adjacent track inlets/outlets between blueprints?

It isn't doing that...

[dense violet]

it connects belts up

[bronze atlas]

it doesnt work perfectly, but yes it does. It goes out a certain distance. Not sure offhand what that distance is, but as long as they are lined up when you put them side by side it should create the link icon to show them connected. It works for belts, pipes, train rails, and hypertubes in my experience, but it needs a valid item for it to know what kind type of item to use.

IE: for me 2 splitters will not connect because there is no belt to indicate what mk of belt to use. But if you put two open ended belts connected to splitters, then those two belts if they line up should connect if they are the same mk belt.

[clever stone]

How many instances of +6 inventory are there in the hard drive slots?

Does anyone know?

[cunning siren]

2

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Inventory

[flint grail]

Better idea, use the by-product to make other items. Efficent

How can I add markers in the Interactive map?

[silk ocean]

Just right or left click and add one, I forget which

New Map Marker button on the bar below the map in fact

and then click where you wan to place it

[rapid pond]

hello! first time satisfactory player. bout 5hrs in the game.... HOW TF DO YALL DO THIS GAME. my brain is hurting trynna do math and find effective ways to produce my iron and copper...

[spark sky]

Well, 2 hours and I've come up with this: #screenshots message

[spark sky]

Well, you can do all the math, you can go to the Satisfactory Calculator website and use that, or you can just not worry about the math that much while learning the game, and just have fun.

[silk ocean]

Usually just a case of logically working through each stage of production and how much you need. Manifolds are worth checking out when you have Splitters and Mergers. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[rapid pond]

well i been sitting here staring at my factory line trynna figure out how to get my metal sheets and nails to produce reinforced sheets. cuz when i put them together the metal sheets get backed up to a stalemate like a japanese subway on rush hour..

[spark sky]

Don't forget load balancers, as well, depending on what you are trying to do.

[silk ocean]

Often it's beneficial to work backwards - how much end product do I need? and then step backwards through the production chain

[spark sky]

Once you have containers that you can connect belts to, you can use a splitter to send some of that to the container for future needs.

(Don't worry about the backup at this point, you're still early in the game.)

[rapid pond]

uh.... my brain aint working... #screenshots

[silk ocean]

Build on foundations as soon as you have them, really helps as well

[rapid pond]

so destory everything and make a flat surface?

[limpid cairn]

EMBRACE SPAGHETTI

[silk ocean]

You'll probably find that after Tiers 1-3 your "starter factory" will get torn down anyway

[spark sky]

Remember, Ficsit hates waste, so most of the time you get all your materials back when you deconstruct things.

[rapid pond]

in screenshots, i have my stuff set up on the 3 ore deposits this way.. is this a effective way or can i get more out of production if i do sum else

[silk ocean]

Manifolds

[spark sky]

Load balancers!

[silk ocean]

lol

[rapid pond]

whats a load balancer?

[spark sky]

You use splitters to send the same ammount (or, depending on how you design it, different ammounts) to separate machines. I use load balancers to send the same ammount of fuel to all my power generators, for instance.

[rapid pond]

can u show me a image?

[silk ocean]

I'd honestly just do manifolds at your stage in the game, load balancers are just over complicating things

And basically at any stage in the game 😉

[spark sky]

Manifolds are fine as long as you remember that machines closest to the source will fill first while machines further down the line may have nothing for a while.

[silk ocean]

I linked the wiki article for Manifolds above

As long as there is sufficient supply they will all get the mats eventually

As their respective buffers fill up

If you're running a continual flow factory, it really doesn't matter if there is a short-term delay in spinning the entire manifold up imo

[spark sky]

Anyway, experiment with both.

[rapid pond]

o are you talking about making the first line 120, then splits to 60, then splits to 4 lines of 30. and the other is 120, 60 and each get halved to 30 and 15?

[silk ocean]

You can always have a fast belt on the manifold and slow belts into each machine which also accelerates the initial boot process, the slow belts act as a choke

[rapid pond]

my thing is my smelter is the first thing and it is slower then the level 1 mine so it chokes at the start

OOOO

do i do a split and make two smelters after the mining drill??

[silk ocean]

It's up to you how you want to design it, that's more of a load-balancer design, 120 split 2 ways to 60, split into 4 x 15

120 you can have a line of 8 smelters

[shy mulch]

There's no reason to complicate it at this stage.
Its a very common problem that people try to overthink and give up because they believe the game is more complicated than it really is

[silk ocean]

Which is why I personally suggest just do simple manifolds, they are easy to build, especially on foundations, and it doesn't overcomplicate the math or the build

[shy mulch]

@rapid pond jush place all the machines you want, stick a splitter in front of each one. Feed the input into the first splitter then that splits to the first machine and the next splitter. That's it, that's all you need to do

People worrying about the last machine in the manifold not getting resources straight away, need to stop worrying about that and have some patience, go do something else for a bit until they fill up. Yes there's ways to reduce the effect by using different speed belts, but again that's overcomplicating it for early game. Do stuff like that later once you fully understand what's going on, keep it as simple as possible for now

[spark sky]

@rapid pond Some load balancers, just so you get an idea of the difference. #screenshots message

[rapid pond]

my brain, ok ill slowly absorb this lol.

[bronze atlas]

only thing i will add is that if you really have a problem with the last machines being slow to get materials, you can cut down on the spin up time by preloading stacks of ingredients into all the machines in the manifold assembly. Just need to put a stack of each ingredient into each machine, and then the manifold will fill up much faster.

but if you dont have a problem with the spin up time, its a completely unnecessary step

[shy mulch]

Avoid the complex stuff. Your brain only seems overwhelmed because people are throwing all sorts of options at you and you don't know which to go with or why. I hate that. It's why I always say only the simplest option for new players and suggest they ignore everything else until later

Just do a basic manifold and don't try to do anything clever with it. It'll work fine

[scenic python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136070193257386088/1426879661979467836/caption.gif

[spark sky]

@Beep Unfortunately you cannot pick up nobelisks once you place them, so, all you can do is blow them up. If you do kill him, I think he will respawn, somewhere, eventually.

Um, that didn't work.

@jagged heron See previous message about #screenshots message

(It seems we can't post screenshots in here, and can't reply to screenshots in #screenshots )

[shrewd hatch]

guys why does it say signal loops into itself

[hollow hazel]

@fresh copper #fan-art

[hollow hazel]

Too close to the split. Move it back just a wee bit.

[spark sky]

What "signal" is he talking about?

Oh, a train signal?

[shrewd hatch]

oh thanks

[bronze atlas]

i have also had that happen when the rail between 2 block signals was too short, once i spaced it out farther it started working.

[hollow hazel]

Radio signals! Towers are too close. They gonna intertwine and broadcast a nuclear disaster. xD

[jagged heron]

do the explosive cartridges for rebar actually break rocks and stuff?

[spark sky]

Yes, and kill critters.

[bronze atlas]

another possibility is if rails are too close side by side. They need to be minimum 1 foundation width center to center to register as separate rails

[jagged heron]

ok then i guess ill run around with that and keep the nobelisk exploder as a "i'm bored" tool

[spark sky]

I have yet to try a Nuke Nobelisk. I'm afraid of what it will do.

[bronze atlas]

i use it mainly with cluster nobelisks to blow up packs of mobs. I hover above them and drop 20 cluster bombs and watch the fireworks

maybe not actually 20, but at least 8

[hollow hazel]

It gonna go boom, it gonna leave a half-life of 30 seconds, and deforestation will happen within a 4 foundation radius.

[dusk scroll]

ff

[spark sky]

Hm. I can't make them yet, but the doggos gave me some. I'll hang on to them for now.

[hollow hazel]

!wikisearch nuke nobelisk

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=nuke+nobelisk

[hollow hazel]

it silly...

[spark sky]

Wait, it can detonate a snowball?

[hollow hazel]

Manufactured snowballs are grenades, yes.

[spark sky]

I have 4 personal storage chests full of snowballs I made last Ficsmas.

[novel heath]

is the alternate solid steel ingot more efficent? having to make iron ingot first sounds a bit annoying but im not sure

[hollow hazel]

@fresh copper Please delete your #screenshots post.

[flint grail]

I just found out that in this world I'm playing with a friend, there's one Lizard Doggo that has apparently been killed...

[bronze atlas]

i believe that's what it says on the wiki. Its a lot faster to make steel if you can supply the input needs

[novel heath]

in my first save rn and i walked up to one believing it was a threat and killed it 😔

[flint grail]

I don't see this

[flint grail]

Death Penalty

[hollow hazel]

In my first playthrough I killed one of each animal to see what it might leave behind. You know, for research purposes.

[bronze atlas]

i havent had any luck with the doggos.. each one i succesfully tamed almost immediately vanished, assumably beneath the world geometry.

[spark sky]

@dim cradle Can't you float the floor above the blueprint designer to leave room for the input or is the blueprint too tall? #screenshots message You might still have to connect a belt or lift but might be a shorter connection.

[dim cradle]

I was thinking that, but not too sure tbh

not much vertical clearance left ...

I could probably at least leave an end point sticking up...

[spark sky]

Well, if using a lift, you could put a floor lift hole where the connection should be. Not sure if it would auto-connect.

[bronze atlas]

i tried that method myself, stuff LOOKED like it connected but when i fed mats in they didnt go up the lifts past the first floor

even when the auto connect made more lifts than were there

[spark sky]

I think it matters which end gets connected first. I've never actually tried auto-connect, I've just started making multi-blueprint vertical builds.

[dusky topaz]

how am i supposed to transfer stuff from the top of the mountain to the bottom

[spark sky]

In the videos I've seen, auto-connect looks like it's a bit janky.

[spark sky]

Somehow I'm seeing Let's Game It Out and his use of doggos....

[bronze atlas]

vertical lifts if its solid items, pipes if its liquid or gas, or a vehicle that moves stuff around the cliff

[dim cradle]

This one is at least pretty modular, only the vertically connected start points for each floor are different. It was kind of a silly setup, I just used 2 verticals and clipped the input into the area where the upper floor output would be lol, and it does autoconnect properly. The factory does feed it all the way up. I could make this like a 27 floor monstrosity with 12 per floor if I wanted to. Would be a pain connecting the floors tho

Doesn't wire it either which is stupid

[bronze atlas]

wires do not autoconnect, by design

[spark sky]

Yes, usually there are too many possible connections for wires.

[dim cradle]

I for one would not mind if all of the wires shotgunned everywhere nearby

[bronze atlas]

maybe at first but once your bluepriints get more complex it would become a nightmare.

[spark sky]

Well, I have a building with 3 different circuits in it, I don't wan't the light switch turning my machines on/off when it turns daylight or night.

[dim cradle]

I feel like it wouldn't be that complicated of an algorithm considering everything this game already does. Just when you build a blueprint, have an option for any poll to find the nearest circuit with the most wattage that I guess isn't connected to any logic, and only if unpowered?

Mostly just some boolean checks and some special ones, they already do that with the belts prolly

[bronze atlas]

personally i think it would be better if there were a special blueprint option where you could flag certain objects as auto connect positive, or custom snap and rotation points for the blueprints, and stuff like that. Could let you have an autoconnect thing that doesnt mess with the inner wiring of the blueprint.

[dense violet]

early on theres very little to do with the coke and byproduct power is silly

[spark sky]

Everybody has been so busy with everything else, I don't know if anyone saw this: #screenshots message

[flint grail]

Coke? I do resin

[dense violet]

from the waste HOR?

[bronze atlas]

yeah i do resin too, i think its an alt recipe

[orchid spire]

Prettyyy

[dense violet]

when people first start oil products they don't tend to have alts >.>

[bronze atlas]

though i have HOR as my main product, not as byproduct, with resin as the bypriduct

[dense violet]

which was the main premise of hte situation

[bronze atlas]

yeah i switched asap tho

i dont remember using coke myself though

i think i just turned resin into plastic/rubber/fabric

[dense violet]

you get HOR byproduct from initial plastic/rubber

[bronze atlas]

maybe i did get alts before i built one

Oh right i remember that now

i barely used that at all, i think i just sunk the coke and forgot about that factory because i never used it for much

[dim cradle]

I thiiiink that I will just use standard manifolds for everything else though. I remember swapping to it instead of using custom designs when I played years ago because it was just easier with the bp mod...

Making this custom stuff just takes too long.

[spark sky]

Hm, the elevator goes on that frame I made, too. I guess anything that fits on a foundation would work.

[shy mulch]

I like the petroleum coke + rubber = circuit boards for that purpose

[spark sky]

Thanks. I think I'd like to build one in a 3D printer.

[pearl summit]

Is here a blowtorch in the satisfactory?

[bronze atlas]

if you mean flamethrower weapon, no. Only fire i recall seeing is the explosions that nobelisk bombs make

[elfin vigil]

anyone know how i could get in touch with the coffee stain team? aka satisfactory tried emailing them but no response

[sterile blade]

While the premise is exaggerated, there are situations where a balancer can take less belts/splitters than a manifold... Sushi, on the other hand, is kind of "the way" to make logistics more compact (when possible), so I don't really understand why it shouldn't be considered space efficient

[pearl summit]

Ah sad
Imagine how fun would be go around woods with flame weapon

[dense violet]

eh, anywhere I'm making computer parts I'm going ot have options I like much better. Electrode CBs consumes just... a shocking amount of oil per board

I can see it probably has some niche uses? but I would much prefer to design around having to use it than use it

[reef basin]

depends, what do you want from them?

[elfin vigil]

transfer my game license from the Epic Games Store to Steam i know such a transfer isn’t supported due to platform policies or licensing restrictions but i wanted to reach out to them and find out if something could be possible since I’d prefer to have all my games consolidated in my Steam library

[reef basin]

it's not possible, since part of the "licence" cost is paying for server load of given service in terms of updates and such

you have to buy on steam or keep playing on epic, the game is the same on both platforms, so there's no difference between steam and epic version

[elfin vigil]

sucks really since i dont fancy rebuying the game i already own just to have it on steam lol

[reef basin]

then play it on epic 🤷 you can always add it as a non-steam game to steam

[hard ivy]

That's exactly what many people did (including me)

[elfin vigil]

yeahhhh lol

[reef basin]

I don't really see the reason for that but to each their own

[elfin vigil]

because steam is a better launcher overall most of the pc player base use steam over epic games etc etc

[reef basin]

I'd argue about the "better", but you can still play on epic even if majority uses steam, there's crossplay (which uses Epic Online Services anyway)

[hard ivy]

1. I much prefer steam over epic
2. I think the devs deserve more than 20 bucks (or whatever I paid in 2019) for their game

[reef basin]

well for the second one, if you buy on epic, devs get more money, so it's kinda weird to buy on steam if you just want to give devs money 😛

[dense violet]

I'm not sure what the difference would be accesing it from steam as an added game

[wintry carbon]

how do merge 16 lines into 4 balanced ?

[hard ivy]

A 16:4 balancer?

[wintry carbon]

i got 16 producta going into 4 lines to my central depot

i just want it to look neat

[dense violet]

are tey 16 different products?

[wintry carbon]

yes

[dense violet]

are they full belts?

[hard ivy]

It won't

[wintry carbon]

not all of them for now

[wintry carbon]

thats ok i can hide it

[dense violet]

honestly you probably want to sink most of it if it's for storage as you'll very quickly fill it up and have to sink it anyway

have only a few parts per min of everything going in

[wintry carbon]

all coming in on lk1 bands

[dense violet]

sink 3/4 of each belt, merge 4 belts together

do that 4 times

[wintry carbon]

but the 4 going in to the depot are lk4

[dense violet]

lk4?

[wintry carbon]

level 4 converters

[dense violet]

ah

then just merge 4 of each together

4x60 is far less than a mk4 can handle

[wintry carbon]

?

so 4 lines into 1 ?

[dense violet]

yeah

[wintry carbon]

that for times

[dense violet]

16/4 is 4 right?

so just choose 4 belts, merge into 1. do that 4 times

[wintry carbon]

the thing is it all comes from different directions

[hard ivy]

Yeah, merge 4 of the lines together, repeat 4 times to get 4 belts. Then balance them 4:4 and you have 4 belts each with all of your items

[dense violet]

you'll have to funnel them into 4 groups then

in general I'd probably advise you plan it out a bit more sounds like it's a bit of spag and you want it 'neat'

[wintry carbon]

actually its 19 of them

[wintry carbon]

first time player :/

[dense violet]

you can squeeze 5x mk1 belts into a mk4 if needed

[wintry carbon]

if you got time you can join my game to see

[dense violet]

and yeah, just advice for next time 🙂

Sorting through things atm, soz 🙂

[wintry carbon]

here are some screenshots

#screenshots message

[rustic quest]

I'm on the same camp, for me a game basically doesn't exist if it's not on Steam so I would have never considered Satisfacory when it was only on Epic

[shy mulch]

I can't work out what your goal is there

[wintry carbon]

ill find a way

[dim cradle]

Are you trying to create a sorting facility or something?

Since this game doesn't have any grabbers, there's no intelligent way to have multiple items on one belt until you get those splitters or whatever, but it's kind of a crapshoot even with them unless they made something better iirc

[wintry carbon]

i am still in the beginning of the game, just unlocked oil, builded a central storage for all basic material and dimensional depots to make sure i can start build freely on the map

[shy mulch]

Find a way to do what? We can help if you can explain what you're trying to achieve. Many new players massively over complicate things and get stuck, when there's much easier ways to do stuff

[shy mulch]

OK, so you have 1 depot per item, right? Why is there any mergers or splitters or anything involved? Just have a belt from where the thing is made to the depot. But then it raises the question of why have a 'central facility', just have the depot at the place the thing is made

[wintry carbon]

got depots for all facilities seperately, then overflow goes to the central depot to suply me with stuff to build freely, got 12 depots for 1 product in the central depot only

[dim cradle]

I think you can do this but you're probably going to need programmable splitters

A lot of them...

[wintry carbon]

dont have them yet, only got smart splitters

[dim cradle]

And it's not a good idea

[dense violet]

central depots arent super useful tbh. You'll spend more time making it than any time you save

hyper tubes hitting up a few places is a lot quicker

[hard ivy]

you never need programmable splitters

everything they can do can be done with smart splitters

[dim cradle]

If you wanna use a lot of them yeah...

[dense violet]

if you're doing a central depot you'll need the smart splitters untless you're storing multiple item typers for container. Not the best idea

[wintry carbon]

i dont mind a central depot, i got time on my hands to play every day. like to go forwards slowly, just wanted a central depot to provide me enough to build freely and unluck all to be able to create nice buildings

[dense violet]

A programable splitter would be useful say if you had 3 branches of sorting you were doing? but that's fairly niche

oh and ify ou're doing Sushi Load Balancing you need Progs

[dim cradle]

The other thing about a central depot if your idea is to take items post-creation and filter down to a certain box in the depot, you're going to run out of belt capacity probably, so you probably want to presplit by type or something

I've done sushi belt config in factorio, it was... an interesting time

[brazen grotto]

I found inside game files some weird gases named hydrogen gas, natural gas, volcanic gas and propane gas. Does anyone maybe know what was their purpose back then? It's very interesting :p

[wintry carbon]

i quess i get myself the progs

i got 2 suchi belts going in the depot for each items, all setup with smart splitters

[dense violet]

from your description it doesn't sound like progs are useful to you right now, but I'm not seeing the whole thing or exactly what you're doing

[rustic quest]

Oh would've been funny if they kept propane and have ADA make a reference about propane and propane accessories

[wintry carbon]

we dont have voice channels in here so i can share my screen ??

[dense violet]

nope.
but progs would only be useful if you're splitting a mixed line and needed multiple items going one way

you're doing hte opposite, merging a few into a mixed line to be sorted into containers

only need smart splitters for that

[wintry carbon]

tnx 4 all the help, i send some pics when i am done reorganizing the input belts ...

i just realized i should had start to build higher in the first place, quess its a beginners mistake 😄

[dense violet]

nah, just build multiple floors. No need for sky factories

[wintry carbon]

#screenshots message my first basic factory

[dense violet]

solid. tidy

[ruby iron]

helou
is ther anything to do with th fps drop caused by high volume conveyor belts?

[dense violet]

lots of anythign can drop it. But you may need to restart the game. Sometimes it slows down

also running tons of browser tabs can suck up your resources too

[ruby iron]

its really just the conveyor belts
as i have stable 60 when looking opposite to the area where they are (even in my factory its 50+) and when i turn towards the coal belts it drops to 25-30

[dense violet]

looking away from factories does help yes

[ruby iron]

but thats the thing
when looking towards my factory its 50+
these 3 mk3 belts (maybe like 400m long each) with coal from mk2 miners suck the resources like crazy. im talking ~30fps drop compared to the factory

i even dropped de conveyor settings to the min

[dense violet]

I mean it's a lot of objects, and your computer might not be great? But looking at a ton of foundations in a large factory will also do it

[ruby iron]

i wouldnt say the best but not the worst for sure. maybe equal to a 3060ti

[dense violet]

cpu is very important for this game

[ruby iron]

but i guess theres nothing to do?

[dense violet]

How long ago since you reformated your hard drive that your OS is on?

[ruby iron]

oof. like a year+ ago

[dense violet]

thats not toooo bad, unless you're downloading a lot of random crap and installing it

I do my best to not download bloatware but I'll still reformat every couple years

but windows does just kinda die slowly over time

[ruby iron]

true

do you get better means of transportation later on?

[dense violet]

like a 3060 is alright. But it might be a cpu bottle neck.
I don't know as much about ratings of various cpus off the top of my head though

[ruby iron]

as in, mts transport*

[dense violet]

You get trucks, trains, drones?

but also try not to centralise huge factories if you're computer isn't great

like is this 50 belts of coal?

[ruby iron]

i mean... anything that doesnt render the items is better than conveyors

[dense violet]

the items on the belts are 'virtual' so they aren't... a huuuge thing

[ruby iron]

thing is i started on the plains area and my dumb ass forgot that you need coal later on

[dense violet]

Sure but not 50 belts of it 😛

[ruby iron]

so while my steel prod is on high plains, my coal+energy is on sea lvl

[dense violet]

in any case if you're just going up the tiers just keep over clocking miners as you increase your belt speed. You can get away wit ha lot less materials to push forwards

[dim cradle]

I don't really find Windows dies over time much after 10, I keep my computers on 24/7 and haven't reformatted in a long time.

[dense violet]

you get a performance boostfrom a proper reformating

[ruby iron]

imo mk2 miners are better than oc'd mk1

[dense violet]

gives life to older computers

[dense violet]

whatever fills your belt

[long tangle]

I DID IT
Im running Satisfactory on Omarchy!!

[ruby iron]

cue the badumtss

[dense violet]

literally 😛
power is essentially a non issue in the game

[dim cradle]

I guess it depends on how old, the Win 10+ kernel is pretty stable. 8.1 was pretty stable too, but 10 doesn't really feel like it slows down much. Then again that's on my PCs which I built.

[dense violet]

you also get the frog in the boilong pot effect. It's so slow you don't notice it

[ruby iron]

unlike some that have ASS-US laptops

[dense violet]

I built my rig and win 11 definitely boots up slower now than it did two years ago for no particular reason. Time for a formating

[ruby iron]

like... i maybe have the last ok-ish one they made but its getting older lol

[dim cradle]

Well no I have like 3-5 active computers going mostly 24/7, and one of them is pretty fresh with a PCIE 5.0 drive and a 9800X3D. 11 might be a step backwards tbh lol

So much garbage in it...

But you need 11 in order to get some gpu features so forced to upgrade ugh.

[ruby iron]

why not the lite 11 clone?

[dense violet]

probably, but I've found formating windows drives has been helpful since win95.

[ruby iron]

i dont remember its name

[ruby iron]

oh god you're old

[dim cradle]

Oh in Win 7 and below, reformatting at set intervals was always helpful, yeah. Those slowed down big time over time.

[dense violet]

my mum was a programer so grew up with computers 😛

[tired comet]

Hi

[dim cradle]

Lol I was there for 95 too

[tired comet]

Wdym 95??

[dim cradle]

Idk of any win 11 clone, I know there are cut down installs of it

[rustic quest]

I don't miss the Windows 98 era...

Looked at it wrong and it fell apart

[dim cradle]

You didn't enjoy ME getting killed as soon as you started it up and it happened to be connected to your crappy dial up

[tired comet]

Y'all what goin on

[dim cradle]

Which was just fast enough to destroy it with malware?

[dense violet]

man, ME didn't have much of a life span

[ruby iron]

thats what im refering to. sorry

[tired comet]

67

[rustic quest]

At some point Windows 2000 and then Windows XP got obliterated soon after being put on the internet

[ruby iron]

xp is the goat

[dim cradle]

I think XP was kind of ok after patching and whatnot.

[ruby iron]

7 was nice too

[rustic quest]

Windows 7 was peak Windows, it all went downhill since

[dense violet]

I miss xp

[dim cradle]

Win 8 started out bad but 8.1 was actually remarkably stable, the kernel was more stable.

[rustic quest]

I miss more Windows 7

[ruby iron]

i tried 8. hated it. with everything in me. got too traumatised to try 8.1

[dense violet]

7 was fine? better than vista and 11

[dim cradle]

Eh I mean the UI doesn't matter much you can download stuff that'll fix it.

But 11 does certainly grind my gears with its constant, "let me re-enable that privacy setting for you hehehe"

[shrewd hatch]

How do I tell my train on which station platform to dock

[rustic quest]

I loved it because you could still disable all the fancy desktop theme stuff and bring it back to the 2000 look, after 7 this wasn't really possible anymore not as easily at least

[ruby iron]

tpm?

[dim cradle]

nah just like random telemetry crap that it'll re-enable every update

[dense violet]

all platforms dock if a car is there

[shrewd hatch]

2 trains go to the station and I have a train with one freight car instead of 2 and its only docking on the wrong platform

[dense violet]

You'd have to show your trains and station in a post in #1038092680493801533 or #math-and-meta

[shrewd hatch]

I added another freight car, which got one of the freight cars loaded

good enough for me

[rustic badge]

i was wondering, at what height is it good to a build a base so you dont get obstructed by a lot of obstacles, but for it not to be too high so you have to make massive belt elevators to get to the same level?
for any elevator thats a decent amount higher i was planning to build a separate platform but i dont want to do that for all the lower areas.

[dense violet]

make multiple floors - can start basically at the lowest elevation

[rustic badge]

i though of that first but id like to have 1 massive floor at a elevation for msot of my trains and belts. but if there isnt really one decent height for a massive platofmr then i guess i have to do a lot of elvels

[dense violet]

can build over the ocean if you want. But to me that's as much as a lose condition as building sky factories

[rustic badge]

yea, and its pretty far away.

ima just keep exloring and checking the Z levels to find a nice average

[dense violet]

mutiple floors over the worst terrain https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1428814062371864586/1428918029974241431/image.png?ex=68fecb1e&is=68fd799e&hm=8aa5e334f66ae69b9f2f35cfb1f5ee6e3cecafc24791f68833901749233d27dd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1508&height=832

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1318079364377743471/image.png?ex=68fefb91&is=68fdaa11&hm=52962e1a1e3abed57eec3a45bc0c68415614c2a2b293d7dbea4f587830d9c72a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1508&height=979

[dense violet]

except for the northern forest, all the starting areas start you out in pretty flat areas

[opaque shadow]

my impression was that there isn't, yeah
compare: grassfields, dune desert, red forest, swamp

[dim cradle]

Desert is kind of annoying in the beginning, the dunes are actually a little annoying for building and routing stuff

[random berry]

I am trying to understand how to configure the elevator with some signs and custom buttons. I have the electricity connected to the elevator floor. The elevator works. However, when I point my crosshair on elevator wall the crosshair changes from dot to gear but when I am pressing X on the controller nothing happens.

X button on the controller is interract and it works in other places

[ashen topaz]

Hello! 🙂 I’m new

[random berry]

hi, same here

[ashen topaz]

If I have a question about if the devs are going to add something in the future, or already have the idea and it’s in the works, where would I go to post?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[ashen topaz]

Thank you!!!

[leaden turret]

also to check if they've given a recent on-stream response, see:

• https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/requested-features/
• https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/possible-features/
• https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/unplanned-features/

[versed mesa]

👋

[ashen topaz]

Well that answered my question! Lol I was going to ask if we could plant vegetation and Mikael answered my question using more complex words to explain a simple concept than I’ve ever heard in one sitting lol

Thank you again!!

[versed mesa]

How are you all today

[mild stump]

If one output on a machine is making more than a belt/pipe can handle will it still output to the other outputs fine?

[leaden turret]

for a while, yes.

then the output buffer will get clogged and you'll be stuck with zero output.

[mild stump]

Thought so. I was just making sure. I've got a sloop on a bauxite refinery and it's making 1350 scrap/min. If I put down more foundries than I need(or maybe a sink) that should help, right?

[leaden turret]

you could also smart splitter overflow to sink if you're wanting a trickle of points

[mild stump]

I more so want to deal with the excess. I have everything I need from the shop.

[reef dirge]

Year 2150 still game has no usable copypaste

[shut karma]

mannnn, when are they gonna add copy pasting to fuel generators

[reef dirge]

Never because suffer and "trivialises"

[dim cradle]

I think some mods will do it though, think that I used one even back in the day when it was early access

[reef dirge]

the idea that we need mods for absolute basic thing is crying shame

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message You know what, I'm thinking about it but maybe this vertical forge array was a better idea than I thought.

Upgrading forging capacity in a busy factory normally kind of sucks but like this it would be pretty trivial...

I can just stack another set of 9 and double it any time I get a double in ore supply

[reef dirge]

it should be tirvial

[dim cradle]

I definitely did something really screwy with the clipping and the vertical track tho lol

To get it to auto snap input to input on the ore line

[reef dirge]

and the clipping is the only viable way to build somethin compact

and it sucks that devs swing with their "vision" right under thes nose

[dim cradle]

Does this game prevent achievements if you mod?

I don't think it had achievements last time I played it so no idea

[leaden turret]

nope.

spooder begone with ags: no achievements for you
spooder booba: whatever floats your boat

[dim cradle]

Then I don't really see any reason to not just mod this for the QoL stuff it's missing @reef dirge ... you still get everything you would without them shrug

[reef dirge]

I don't build same thing twice

[leaden turret]

looks at hub

so only one playthrough ever then?

[reef dirge]

No, but if i built something once, i don't want to build it twice. I have same blueprints in factorio from like 5 years and i still use them.

I can get to space by just building out my blueprints

[dim cradle]

I think when I "beat it" with a friend a couple of months ago we mainly had a mod that sort of duplicated blueprint functionality. Oh and one that gave us this power armor we could make which was honestly a freaking awesome mod

[reef dirge]

I can complete all planets by slapping blueprints

[dim cradle]

at least they put blueprints in the game officially I guess

[leaden turret]

so you've optimised the fun out of playing factorio

[proper thicket]

I swear, slipping off your build platform into water while trying to build with the build gun results in some of the most rage inducing shit I've ever seen. You are now stuck in a loop of leaving the water with a jump, only to have the build menu open on its own the millisecond you leave the water, cancelling the jump, landing you back in the water, closing the build menu.

[leaden turret]

foundation ramps bound to hotkeys ftw

[proper thicket]

doesn't solve the problem.

[leaden turret]

yes it does.

don't need to open the build menu in a split second if you can tap a hotkey in a split second.

[proper thicket]

it doesn't solve the problem.

[reef dirge]

I am software developer, I am having fun out of optimising fun out of stuff.

[leaden turret]

problem: being in water
solution: getting out of water

seems like it does.

[dim cradle]

I really wanna meet (and strangle) whoever didn't put crouch toggle in the game and then also made it so you have to press R+L to detonate a bomb on controller >_>

So far currently I think these are my main complaints

[proper thicket]

buddy isn't getting it

[dim cradle]

Like wtf no crouch toggle come on

[reef dirge]

Problem: I don't like that. Solution: go love yourself. That is what you said.

[cunning siren]

Catwalk Stairs are your friend, they are the steepest angled ramp in the game and they are much more forgiving to use than ladders pre-jetpack / hoverpack IMO. If you have not already, start learning to use Catwalk Stairs as much as possible. I would also suggest using this console command: ToggleDebugOverlay 1 . It can show you the player location on the Z axis wherever you are. This can help plan "how high" to build and where to build. My last Dune playthrough I did this sort of thing where I planed at what altitude "things" were going to be done in 12 m "floors" sections. The idea can help have enough room to expand on the X and Y axis while being on close on the same Z axis. It can also help with 🥔 GPU hardware as not everything is rendered at the same time as stuff is obscured by the foundations and walls can be added to further help with the FPS. As an example for the Dune playthrough, these where the Z locations I ended up going with: #screenshots message

• 57 Smelting
• 70 Processing
• 83 Storage / Transport
• 96 Main Production
• 281 Sky Train pluber
• 302 Sky Train aluminum

[leaden turret]

being a software developer doesn't make you wanna do that.
being you does 😛

[reef dirge]

Having first class honors in math and then becoming sw dev does.

[dim cradle]

Depends on whether you're like a brogrammer, the other side, or something in between lol

[leaden turret]

see previous statement, modified

[rustic badge]

thjanks but well that wasnt really the point of my question

[cunning siren]

Oh?

[reef dirge]

If you said something it doesn't become true because you think so

[cunning siren]

Can you help us understand more then?

[leaden turret]

🪞

[fiery rampart]

Am i tripping or did the pioneer get smaller? Haven´t played in awhile and the buildings seeem HUUUGE 😄

[dim cradle]

Honestly height doesn't seem to ever be an issue due to lifts for belts

you can just go straight up and it doesn't cost much

[leaden turret]

just high enough above the treeline that it doesn't make you go 😬 to look at the gap

[reef dirge]

Posting emotes doesn't make you more credible

[rustic badge]

its, at what height can i make a single big platform that will avoid most obstacles so i can get a big flat area,

[dim cradle]

And once you start getting steel plates and concrete piling into dimensional storage, you can just make skybridges out to resources for pretty cheap, at least I do

Well like... some of the biomes have really tall obstacles. Some don't like desert

[rustic badge]

but i dont want it at the highest point cause that jus tannoyign with the belt lifts things

[dim cradle]

are you going to Dyson Sphere the planet?

[rustic badge]

and fluids

[reef dirge]

~230 meters

[cunning siren]

Ok, so it sounds like there is a middle ground there then?

[leaden turret]

people build factories in spaceships & use drones to avoid the lifts https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaceship

[proper thicket]

The height to avoid every ground object is a little under 500 meters

500 meters will put you about 20 meters above the highest ground.

this leaves you 1500m to build before you start hitting the get baked zone.

[dim cradle]

kind of ridic though, you could just go out to the desert and you don't need much height to have an obscene amount of flat ground to work with I guess

With regards to oil stuff, you might wanna just work it where you find it tbh... that's what we did in the early access anyway

gonna probably be pipes and pumps otherwise

[proper thicket]

Oil is in 4 locations, and it is best to process it on site in all locations, as you have water and sulfur and coal nearby most of them.

[dim cradle]

or roll it back by train

train can carry a lot of stuff at once

[cunning siren]

Yea there is a "middle ground" so to say and I'm guessing that tends to vary like opinions do, from person to person

[cursive vessel]

Where do you make suggestions to the devs?

[proper thicket]

scream into the void

[reef dirge]

what is the point of the train if anything can be made by conveyours

[cursive vessel]

Oof

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[cursive vessel]

Best guess Cpu saving

[proper thicket]

this and don't underestimate it either.

[reef dirge]

If i have 13900K?

[proper thicket]

smells like regret's cooking

[rustic badge]

trains can be faster than belts for its space right?

or ease of use i better say,

[cursive vessel]

Bro I run a 2 processor beffy server and it's a lot 😅

[proper thicket]

trains are bulk throughput over long distances. 1 4 car train can replace 8 1200 belts.

[cursive vessel]

Belts = instant transmission imo

It's like the output is wherever the belt ends once it's full

[dim cradle]

Tbh trains are just cool in this, that's why I made a bunch of them. But for fluid transport especially they actually don't seem that bad? Like you get unlimited lift with them, and as much storage as you want to make cars.

[reef dirge]

can't even think about them after using cityblock

[dim cradle]

I haven't gotten them in this save tho

yet

really procrastinating lol

[proper thicket]

Trains cost electricity but will save you CPU in the mega-ist of mega builds if you use them properly.

For smaller builds or shorter distances, belts are still the win.

[cunning siren]

If you don't "megabuild" then you can do all belts or all trains or some of both 🤷 does not matter as CPU is fine

[proper thicket]

If you're not megabuilding, are you even playing satisfactory?

[cunning siren]

I hope this is a joke and sad if it is not

[proper thicket]

I hope you're joking, and if not, physical pain.

[deft wagon]

[cunning siren]

The more you speak the more I am confused on what exactly you are saying 😆

[proper thicket]

Don't worry about it then.

[cunning siren]

See... you did it again 😆

[dim cradle]

I mean really though if you want to process everything on a big sky platform, I think trains are pretty pog for fluid transport

solids, w/e but fluids seems pretty good unless they added something

[reef dirge]

worst game to do it, mega is as pita here as possible

[proper thicket]

Challenging circumstances breed the highest creativity levels.

It's the struggle that causes us to be clever. Find ways around it.

[dim cradle]

mmm... idk lol, this game isn't as creative as factorio can be just due to the belt limitations and no grabbers... but the new blueprint system does make you think

[reef dirge]

Both of us know that this is meaningless word salad without any semantic behind it yet you decided to put it up. Don't you have to say anything better?

[proper thicket]

Not to you I don't.

[reef dirge]

There's no creativity in routine, and there can't be

[dim cradle]

When you build up to drones just flying all over the place building and transporting things, it's pretty neat

[reef dirge]

routine is hard limited there by design and there are no clever ways to get around it like IRL. IRL you build tools to remove routine.

[leaden turret]

online you build routine to remove tools

would really like it if discord had shareable block lists

[reef dirge]

oh yes a good idea thank you for reminding

[proper thicket]

I would like it if the block feature didn't try to remind me that the annoyance exists.

I don't care that they're typing. It doesn't matter. Stop. XD

[hard ivy]

Not really. You cannot get a full 1200/min in/out of a single input/output of a platform

[proper thicket]

Uh... heh. If you say so buddy.

[hard ivy]

Try it then

[proper thicket]

I'm not here to argue with or educate you today. Try back tomorrow.

[spark sky]

Last night I climbed a radar tower as far as the ladders on it would take me. That's a long way up there.

[hard ivy]

Whatever you say that contradicts what I said is wrong so 🤷‍♂️

[proper thicket]

I don't know you. Whatever you say, bud. Pick a battle somewhere else.

[hard ivy]

Have fun being wrong ig

[proper thicket]

Have fun with this need to be right thing.

[leaden turret]

XKCD 386 time mean's it's blocking time 😛

[proper thicket]

Block the whole world if it makes you feel more comfortable.

[leaden turret]

has doors and blind closed all the time

seems legit

[proper thicket]

The sunlight is a different matter.

Outside has people, also. that's a different game.

[leaden turret]

don't need to go outside

[cursive vessel]

Can yall upvote this please I think some great ideas for qol are in here

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/68fe2c0fc4d2dc615d08221c

[proper thicket]

scim lets you edit quickslots. it's not an in game supported feature afaik but you can import / export with scim, pretty sure.

[dim cradle]

dayum this chat gets hot fast

[cursive vessel]

What's that?

[proper thicket]

satisfactory calculator interactive map

[cursive vessel]

?

[leaden turret]

linked in #welcome

[warm pendant]

manifolds are much better right? even tho they take quite a bit of time to clog the smelters

[leaden turret]

less math = more fun, unless you're into math

[digital holly]

SEE Screenshots, i am trying to find the entrance of that cave...

[proper thicket]

manifolds and load balancers... Essentially it's sequential or symmetrical. And no. Load balancers are "better" but also mostly unnecesary in a lot of cases.

[warm pendant]

i tried doing balancers but it seems ugly for me or im just bad placing them xD

[dim cradle]

I tried making balanced inputs and outputs and uh... it's expensive

[proper thicket]

I don't know how you take something symmetrical and make it ugly

[dim cradle]

at least if you want it super compact

[proper thicket]

You start with a 2-3 split, and just keep splitting those until you have exactly how many outputs you need.

this can be done in a logi layer, 2-3m high per product involved

[warm pendant]

well yeah maybe later ill try another balancer for coal farming

do you guys make a mega factory build or just simple big box?

[dim cradle]

well to be totally balanced it has to first get merged into one line before being fully split again which... i found out takes a lot of materials for a tower approach lol

[proper thicket]

there's dozens of approaches and method combinations people use at large scale. The simplest by far is the sky plane.

[digital holly]

I was always builing simple boxes, but i try to spice them up more and more with design

[warm pendant]

sky plane? what is that/

[dim cradle]

thing is this game doesn't have limited resources, you could just keep making mini factories for each thing and you'll eventually win if you just leave the game open while sleeping or something

[leaden turret]

like a water plane except it can't land on water so much as splash in it

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that idle crafting is paying microtransactions to your energy supplier

[proper thicket]

A plane, in geometry, is a flat 2d surface.

You build one in the sky. You build your factory on that.

[leaden turret]

(also I did that with surviving mars and it took all the fun out of the game)

[warm pendant]

ahhhh aight i understand that lol

my game is already opened for 24hrs just to craft and stock up for my t4 builds

[dim cradle]

my computers are on 24/7 anyway and a few of them are doing automated AI drawing all the time anyways XD

my energy provider eatin good

[warm pendant]

plus the internet consumptions xD

[dim cradle]

no really my electric bill for my house is... high...

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder majority of ai models are built on theft

[dim cradle]

my internet is cheap thankfully

[warm pendant]

fast and cheap?

[dim cradle]

I agree, I don't share anything I create

[dim cradle]

gigabit

[floral forum]

what are some good qol mods to start with?

[dim cradle]

any mod that lets me toggle crouch

[proper thicket]

none. game plays great without them.

there are some tools to use when you want to get more creative though. like scim.

[floral forum]

yeah i have nearly 600 hours tho and some things get a little stale

[leaden turret]

• there's a mod that lets you automate stuff with lua
• there's a mod that replaces the with the CMs
• there's a mod that gives you farming
• there's a mod that gives you different power options

[dim cradle]

Is that power suit mod still a thing? It was kind of OP when built up, but god it was fun

[leaden turret]

would assume that mod is rendered redundant now

[dim cradle]

oh do we get vanilla powersuits now?

[hard ivy]

I'm running Hoverpack configurator, no splash screens, SkyUI and my own rebalance mods

[dense violet]

there's in game settings to fly and do whatever

[leaden turret]

iirc main selling point of that mod was that you didn't have multiple equipment slots, but now you got leg/back etc.

[dim cradle]

I don't remember it very well tbh, was years ago, I just remember it giving you a lot of toys when built up, and combining the radioactive resistance and stuff

was very expensive to make though

like more than most milestones and phases

[hearty atlas]

how the hell do i connect my factories together lol

[proper thicket]

That is quite a puzzle. There's no easy answer. There are some guidelines though...

[hearty atlas]

i started off just having all resource nodes straight into a smelter, on a conveyor to my main base but now im overhauling that with no idea what i should do

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=bridge+OR+viaduct+OR+roads

[hearty atlas]

alot of them are too short to justify the resource and electric cost of a train so would trucks be the move? or just fast conveyors?

[dense violet]

Trucks
also power costs are essentially nothing in the game. Power is easy to build and infinite.

if you are worried about power your next goal is 'build another power station'

[proper thicket]

Most resources reduce in volume / items per minute until they become a part of some kind. Different parts combine to make different things, often from different raw resources. There are two ways of thinking about how to link up factories. 1: What goes where, and why? 2: HOW.

This doesn't answer anything yet, but bear with me.

When you reduce a resource down to a part, you decrease volume. This makes moving that thing easier, but the more specific a part, the fewer the locations it has relevance. So you're basically taking a resouce and making it complicated to have your next complication be what to do with it. And how you solve that is by distance to the next relevant point.

So let's say you're making computers.

There's a lot of alt recipes for this, including many with oil products.

You can basically decide how to make those computers by how the resources in the area you NEED them are allocated. OR you can go somewhere specially ideal for computers, and worry about how you get them somewhere else later.

Now... getting them places.

Belts, trains, and drones are basically it. Trucks are a headache, don't bother.

Short distance, few components? Belt. Duh. Ez. Long distance, lots of parts? train. Suck it up and build. Long distance, few parts? Yay, you can use a drone.

It's basically that simple.

[leaden turret]

belt all the things 😛

[hearty atlas]

thank you guys

[proper thicket]

Now... a note on trains... Yes I was wrong earlier when I said you can reduce 8 belts to 4 platforms. There's throughput lost when loading and unloading. Unavoidable. Slipped my mind, I haven't fw trains in a year. But more relevantly, you can easily saturate a train track (line) if you're used to dealing with things the way factorio players do. Train traffic is a big consideration, and I suggest you already have planned where and how to expand your train network to accommodate this inevitable problem. I suggest directional, typical, and vertical. Meaning trains going in one direction, using common material routing (A train for a factory line, or a train for a material type, or a train for a destination), and when you need to add more, go UP in the same footprint for tracks.

[warm pendant]

ayo server restart?

[vague beacon]

https://coder0xff.github.io/optifactory/

Hi everyone. I just finished a new website that I'm excited to share. Optifactory is a factory planning tool similar to existing Satisfactory planning tools, but it stands out thanks to its ability to produce optimal designs for your desired outputs. Based on the recipes enabled, the inputs available, and tuned to your personal preferences, Optifactory produces the provably best design, including balancer networks, alternate recipes, and power systems if desired. It uses the HiGHS mixed LP optimizer to accomplish this feat.

There are three main optimization controls that you can balance to your liking.

• Input Costs - Minimize raw material usage
• Machine Counts - Minimize the number of machines
• Power Usage - Minimize power consumption

The Input Cost is in the Economy tab. The default values of all parts are computed based on recipes, but they're individually customizable, providing precision control over the optimization. Check out the Documentation tab.

I hope you enjoy!

P.s. I've created a few GitHub issues with enhancements I considered. I invite you to thumbs up any that you want to vote for. https://github.com/coder0xff/optifactory/issues

I'm getting a bot message that I'm not allowed to share links.

[proper thicket]

The link seems to have been shared all the same...

But uh... call me when it generates blueprints that you can download. 😉

[warm pendant]

game says server restart in 60mins should i logout or still good to play till the timer run out?

[white dawn]

That'll be the GitHub.io links in there, btw. The server uses an allowlist. GitHub.com would be fine but GitHub.io subsomains wouldn't

Though yeah, a bit weird that the bot didn't actually remove the post; usually it would. Maybe something to do with editing the post quickly enough after posting?

Looks neat, though, will check it out later

[weak shoal]

is it normal that i have to make 100k cables for 500 item of phase 4 or i miscalculated?

[dense violet]

sounds like you made a mistake

[vague beacon]

I've made enhancement ticket with your suggestion https://github.com/coder0xff/optifactory/issues/5. From a math stand point, making a 3D layout in a confined space is even harder than optimally choosing which recipes to use.

[dense violet]

what part are you making?

[weak shoal]

assembly director system

[dense violet]

is there no way to not have it show a nightmare load balance layout?

[weak shoal]

i have to make 500 of it, and i need

wait

1k adaptive controll unit

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=XhiMqtwdLjSNFrkcGKDE

you could simplify that plan quite a bit with some alts

also reduce resource cost

[vague beacon]

I opened an enhancement ticket for your suggestion: https://github.com/coder0xff/optifactory/issues/6

[dense violet]

anything that breaks down a plan to actual belt layout is pure nightmare , soz

[weak shoal]

i have no intention to make a factory for that, i want to put the item in 3 manufacter and wait ig

i mean, it would be crazy

[dense violet]

you're hand feeding even the cables?

[weak shoal]

yeah

[dense violet]

sounds awful. Just use a smart splitter to overflow

[weak shoal]

overflow?

[dense violet]

don't sink everything and any excess cable you make will overflow to space parts

[spark sky]

Huh, I just realized that I can double the output of the power plant blueprint I'm currently working on, within the footprint of the current building.

[weak shoal]

mhm

[warm pendant]

this good link thanks for sharing

[weak shoal]

i'm actually thinking to build that factory, but if i do it like the link u send said, it's going to cost too much i mean 163 constructors??

[spark sky]

Nothing in this game costs too much, except the time it takes to make the parts.

[dense violet]

it takes a little bit of practice, but best planning tool

[dense violet]

change recipes around, that plan only uses BASE recipes

[weak shoal]

ah ok

[warm pendant]

yeah i get the gist of the website already since i hand written things to think properly xD

[weak shoal]

well i absolutely will use trains to transport the materials, i think there are no more nodes around me

i have to go to the opposite part of the map

[warm pendant]

are the quartz in rocky really underneath the mountains?

[weak shoal]

but when i'll finish it, i'll be satisfied with my life

[proper thicket]

well if you're the "I like to solve stupidly hard problems for fun" type, go nuts.

[vague beacon]

Believe me, this is something I've already talked about with the guys at work (similarly I like hard problems dudes)

[proper thicket]

Well, I'd probably use the shit out of that. and so would a lot of other lazy builders.

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that a public github repo with no license is unusual

[dense violet]

tweaked it a bit? but I'd overclock it a bunch https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=JwGPtlO0Ysu0FW3MivkH

[vague beacon]

There's two options. See if the sbp format would allow me to cram all the machines into the same position, because no validation. Super easy. Or try to make it all pretty and stuff which is where things become very hard.

[leaden turret]

wave function collapse, problem solved

[weak shoal]

i realized i already have the computers and heavy modular frames,

[dense violet]

put them in the 'input' tab then 🙂

that'll simplify it a lot

[weak shoal]

yes, i have to make supercomputers, circuit board and automated wiring

a factory for them

[dense violet]

sleep for me though! gl with it

[proper thicket]

Your first option is not an option. No one wants that. Yes you can do it. But you don't want to. It would defeat the purpose behind the intent and be a waste of resources to build. We all want pretty. You want hard problem. Go ham.

You can ignore the validation because you're cheating the thing into place, basically. The place tool does the validation when inside the blueprinter, doing bounds checking on both. Once the blueprint is saved, you're gold.

[vague beacon]

Would sane machine placement but non-pretty conveyors be acceptable?

[proper thicket]

are the splines that hard to make work like the build tool? That' what we want, ideally. To replicate the build tool in one mode or another, preferably the objectively cleanest in situation.

Or if not, just the cleanest.

So stick with smooth turns, or clean 90s, PCB like layering and laning.

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that mods once said extensive discussion about external tools is #math-and-meta

[proper thicket]

The problem with conveyors is for some reason they have the longest draw distance of basically anything.

The machines, nearly everything else will vanish and your conveyors will be all you can see

[vague beacon]

It's a problem of laying it out. If everything has to be pretty, then the challenge is that the machine placement affects where the conveyors go, and where the conveyors go affects where the machines can be placed. In computer science it's called a packing problem.

[proper thicket]

It's as simple as this, my friend: If you know how to, yourself, optimize a factory or layer layout, you can code a thing to do it too.

I believe in you.

You set up a few rules like... machines go in a line... not a scatter plot. You connect in the same direction. You make it flow linearly even when it doesn't want to.

Clean is symmetry and flow.

One, or both.

[vague beacon]

Your intuition is right, if you can do it yourself with only a simple set of rules then you can make a computer do it to.

[proper thicket]

And the but is it's a hard problem, and again, you like hard problems.

Make it a few dozen simple problems then.

You are limited basically by the dimensional depot storage capacity when full. If we have to go digging around in a box or our virtual pocket somewhere we're also falling out of principle.

So you don't have to solve for infinity.

[hollow hazel]

Discovery of the day: Did you know you can slide through/under Industrial Railing (not Modern Railing)?

[proper thicket]

Well, modern times call for modern methods. Industrials have OSHA to deal with.

[vague beacon]

The feature to disable balancer networks is live

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

[empty hill]

phase 3 is finally over 🧎‍♂️

[proper thicket]

The prints were designed on earth. We aren't bound by any rules here, but we also get what we get.

[warm pendant]

what tier can i unlock the boots where i can jump higher?

[proper thicket]

are you ready for the choo choo train?

[empty hill]

im certainly not ready for any of these project parts

[shrewd palm]

They’re in the quartz tree in the mam

[proper thicket]

Basically tier 1, but you need quartz research.

[warm pendant]

eh the quartz in rocky desert are underneath the mountains 1000m from the spawn

[shrewd palm]

As long as you can make modular frames and silica I think you should be good

[proper thicket]

do you have hypertube?

[warm pendant]

i can research them now yeah

[proper thicket]

hypertube + parachute = I can go anywhere.

[warm pendant]

but how to go back? xD

[shrewd palm]

Distances in this game are a lot smaller than you’d think they’d be

Just watch out for all the spiders and stuff in that cave

[proper thicket]

turn off drop on death, and hit esc > respawn > rmb

just ignore the little 'days since last incident' counter

this sends you back to the hub

[warm pendant]

isn't that disables my steam achievements?

[proper thicket]

No. this is a game option.

Just like creature aggression.

You can turn these off and play more or less the way you want.

It's things like infinite power, fly all the time, god mode, skip having to actually build the factories to 'beat the game' is where they say nah bro.

the game is about solving factory problems not being good at video games.

[lament niche]

who pinged

[pastel burrow]

When using blue prints, I'm trying to auto connect my bus, however the length of the auto connect is shorter than when manually placing belts. How do I auto connect to the maximum length?

[lament niche]

cheats aren't "being good at video games"

[proper thicket]

First, nobody pinged you. Second, nobody said that.

[proper thicket]

Uh... well you would have to build your bus in its entirity and add stubs everywhere you want it to auto connect, such that they're within range of the auto connect feature.

[lament niche]

First, somebody pinged me last night or this morning, but Discord didn't show me where or who in this channel pinged me. Second, I was explaining CSS's position

[lament niche]

ah, you're who pinged. Sushi literally requires an entire system to empty the belts of excess in order to not break

Also... "balancers take less belts than a manifold"... that's literally not how they work

[pastel burrow]

#screenshots message

so I can't extend the range? This is as far as I can go before it breaks.

[shrewd palm]

Belts themselves have a max length of 7 foundations and the auto connect should be the same

You just have to make sure you click to get all the belts connected and then you can do whatever you want

[warm pendant]

how do i destroy this rock thing that dmg me

[proper thicket]

I don't think the auto connect feature is useful for doing anything but directly connecting two blueprints of the similar type. Like let's say you use the mk3 blueprinter to make a machine group that is basically a complete assembly line in a box... except it fits in 2 or 3 boxes instead and they have to be lined up a certain way.

that is basically what it was designed for I think.

if you try to use it to make busses you're basically tripling your connection count for each time you use it, over long runs.

[proper thicket]

If it can be damaged, any a nobelisk like pulse, cluster, standard, or nuke should do the trick. You may also try the chainsaw. If neither works, you can't do anything about it.

[warm pendant]

tried chainsaw and died xd

[proper thicket]

oh is this a gas spewing rock thingy

[shrewd hatch]

do mods work on experimental satisfactory versions

[proper thicket]

you need a nobelisk. Unlock in the sulfur tree. You need to learn how to weaponize minerals.

Well its... a multiplying cpu problem.

Long belts? Less than ideal. Many segmented long belts? Not good. Many of this type as a building principle? Asking for scaling issues.

In reality this is only a problem for the most stupidly large of large mega builds.

[median relic]

hey there everyone, quick question, I'm looking for a mod that added nice looking power poles that didn't stop you when zipping on them. I cannot for the love of god remember the name of this mod, anyone maybe recognizes it?

[proper thicket]

Like a factory floor so large it looks like a tiling animated texture.

[random berry]

How to get alternative recipes for Heavy Modular Frame which are listed in the wiki?

[proper thicket]

Understanding engine limitations is key to megabuilding.

[azure reef]

anybody recommend any alt recipes for computers?

[hard ivy]

the same way you get any other alt recipe?

[azure reef]

and heavy modular frames

[random berry]

how?

[proper thicket]

go embrace smouldering wrecks for a few hours.

[hard ivy]

scan a hard drive in the MAM

[proper thicket]

wrong @ sry

[shrewd palm]

Find them, decrypt them, hold on To the recipes so that they stay out of the pool while you get more

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

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[median relic]

thanks

[proper thicket]

I find it is helpful to actively max out your current technology limits with crash recovered harddrive research at every possible tier, so I always have the most options.

[shrewd palm]

^^

[proper thicket]

Also you rely on RNG less come late game.

Sometimes you just really need that one recipe... and it certainly helps if it only has like 4 options left to roll from.

[warm pendant]

thanks

[proper thicket]

t4 is a lot of recipes at once, but you also have at that point a lot of mobility technology and a reason to expand, so its all very well paced tbh.

When I hit T4, it is definitely exploration time.

you got it. pack parachute too

bring plenty of ramping materials.

[dim cradle]

Some recipes are really nice, especially ones that simplify lines, and some just give more for less

[proper thicket]

Okay so basically parachutes are, when used to their maximum jank... actually more effective at ascending than a jet pack.

The fact that you retain velocity when ascending is... absurd, but so useful... you can slide upwards off a rock, gain momentum, hit another rock somewhere nearby and keep doing that, basically skiing on cliffs.

Best part, no fuel requirements. It will never nope out on you on the way up or down.

[ionic gate]

how big is the game studio?

[hard ivy]

https://coffeestain.com/studios/coffee-stain

[ionic gate]

no, like how many ppl

working on the game

thats cool, but what game engine is it made with?

[olive belfry]

Can I have two freight platforms at two different stations using the same freight car to load the same item?

or is one freight car limited to one cargo at a time?

like if I have 3 train stations and 1 freight platform for each of them. I want two of them to load plastic while unloading it at the end. Would it be possible?

or do I have to expand the train to have 2 freight cars and two platforms on each station to achieve it?

[hard ivy]

you can top up a wagon at a second station if it has space left

[olive belfry]

alright ic. thanks

[hard ivy]

you can also unload it a second time if it still has something in it

[olive belfry]

👍 good to know. Thanks

[hard ivy]

just set the trains to only depart when empty/full

[cursive vessel]

Does scim hook onto the client? I'm confused how that would save and load my quick bar?

[leaden turret]

upload save file.

find folder in #faq

[hard ivy]

because they aren't

[worthy cosmos]

crack

the steel recipe is the best apparently

[sullen gull]

Screws are not evil ... smh

[hard ivy]

I'd rather not waste an early-game drive on screws

[worthy cosmos]

it was the only option

[sullen gull]

You don't HAVE to accept recipies though. You can just leave them in the list and scan more (or re-roll)

[frail chasm]

So, Phase 4. Assembly director system: doable with some jiggery pokery. Mag field Gens likewise. However, Thermal Propulsion Rocket: what the actual f**k!? Loads of sub parts reused over other sub parts. No idea where to start

[worthy cosmos]

ok well imma just go around collecting drives tho so

[sullen gull]

Just know that if doing heavy scanning early on, you'll "run out of alt choices" until you unlock later milstones/phases

[cunning siren]

Had a power outage IRL 😆 Forgot to build power storage 🤷

[worthy cosmos]

i know what recipes I want.

[shy mulch]

Treat each of the ingredients as its own task, when you've automated all of those, it should be simple enough to bring them together into a single manufacturer

[worthy cosmos]

it's split among like 5 years

or more idk

yeah they are

[sullen gull]

Wait, so what's thay say about having 4.400 in a year? 😏

[frail chasm]

Well somehow, the only item I'm producing individually is fused modular frame. Mod engine, turbo motor and cooling system I haven't been. Should I make a factory for each going from base mats up or rob from other production lines?

Never got my head around that question

[hard ivy]

like 1500-2k? not sure cause over half are on epic and I can't see how many hours I have on there without installing it

[worthy cosmos]

i only have 16 hours 💔

most of the time I've just been goofing off though, so.

[sullen gull]

5

[abstract heron]

i am at dis hr now @unborn gyro

17,416 hrs

[small pebble]

So what does the elevator do when it’s complete lol. Can you build in Jupiter or what 😂

[unkempt blade]

and like 14k of that is just setting up factory carts like a true pioneer?

[abstract heron]

i am working on atm a big big refinerys set up for all DD and Desert cayons ore

[unkempt blade]

I went outside today so I wasted precious factory cart time 🙁

people would be getting in fights in the city park just like during the peak of pokemon go

buuuut it would help my step count if I had to walk around to place conveyors so I'm supportive

[hard ivy]

iirc I had 2.5k of them in my U6 save

[worthy cosmos]

if i have 6 impure iron nodes and i max overclock all of them, what does that get me for tier 2 belts?

[unkempt blade]

every single refinery more balanced than the next!

[dim cradle]

You know... you start out with all of these grand plans, these big blueprints... and then you end up just hooking up all of your iron to a max overclocked constructor making iron pipes because screw all of that...

[worthy cosmos]

with just the first tier of drills

[unkempt blade]

you know what would be fun? A balancer factory but you give each structure a tiny clock difference completely negating the balance over time

[kind oriole]

guys my turbofuel isnt going in the blender

[worthy cosmos]

ok i did math, too much iron for what i need.

at least for now

[hard ivy]

I don't really remember a time when it was. sad, really, maybe if they weren't shunned so much, maybe people would use them for what they're actually useful for, instead of trying to entirely replace manifolds with them and then getting roasted for it

[dim cradle]

Well the blueprint designer lends itself to manifolding, because that's one of the only ways to make megalines due to the way it auto connects between lines

Before, there wasn't such a thing

[worthy cosmos]

what's a manifold

[unkempt blade]

it's really good for cartifolds too because you don't have to worry about all the truck station (or packager) setup

[reef basin]

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

[worthy cosmos]

hey i did that for my coal plant

[dim cradle]

Like I didn't realize at first that it autoconnected between blueprint lines and then it kind of clicked, after I already wasted time making a crazy load balanced 9x smelter factory lol

[hard ivy]

oh, they very much are on the subreddit. here too, though not nearly as much

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message and by that I mean this monstrosity

[unkempt blade]

there's just not really a utility reason to use them outside of nuclear power and that became a lot less important with multiple equipment slots

[worthy cosmos]

I'd use balancers in this game because at least they aren't as horrid to make as in factorio.

[dim cradle]

Who needs balancers in factorio you know just like... use drones to fly things everywhere right lol

auto balancing system

[worthy cosmos]

no drones.

[dim cradle]

I'm just kidding yeah I know it's a pain

My first factory was a solar powered hyper efficient sushi belt setup with a tiny footprint

balancing I/O was hell

[worthy cosmos]

but you can

if you were to try to stop i bet you'd relapse in less than a week.

that's forced and that doesn't work nearly as much as just getting burnt out.

[scenic pasture]

Anyone else use drones for anything over belting distance because I don’t understand trains

[worthy cosmos]

i mean is it really a waste? can you lose the ability to get the one specific alternative recipe for each thing?

[reef basin]

they are more horrid than in Factorio and they are less useful 🙂

[worthy cosmos]

I'm talking visually

[reef basin]

it's a waste of drive in terms of "you could've picked other recipe"

[worthy cosmos]

i was just about to say something about how i would need a belt balancer and then i realised I won't.

Damn balancers are useless wth

[reef basin]

yeah, in this game you very rarely use them, and practically never need them

[hard ivy]

Useless? absolutely not. necessary? also absolutely not

[haughty patio]

Hi, does the auto-connect work in situations like these? #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

auto-connect won't connect 2 splitters together

you need a belt sticking out of the blueprint you're placing

[haughty patio]

I'll give it a try, thanks

Is the same true for mergers and if so, is it enough to place one at the output or should it be both output and input?

[hard ivy]

you need a free belt end on the blueprint you're placing for auto-connect to work. it'll connect to other existing belts, splitters, mergers, machines, etc.

[cursive vessel]

Is scim considered a mod? Making achievements ineligible?

[hard ivy]

mods don't disable achievements anyway

[cursive vessel]

Oh?

That's not what I was told thank you for that information

[cunning siren]

That would be nice, I guess there is a bigger blueprint mod though so 🤷 kinda' already is a thing?

[hard ivy]

learn how to write .sbp files by hand kekw

[haughty patio]

Thanks, got it to work now. Time to update more blueprints 🙃

also I assume there's still no way to connect power automatically, right?

[reef basin]

have each blueprint contain enough biogens with prefilled biomass

[ivory condor]

well you see the problem with connecting power automatically is, the game has to know somehow how you would want that to be done

[cursive vessel]

Automating the automating sounds ficit approved

[ivory condor]

have fun trying to solve that automatic problem🙃

proof or it didnt happen

[haughty patio]

I mean I can imagine, unless there's an implicit way to mark how a power outlet that is

meanwhile me debugging coal for 7h because pipes

yeah, bringing down resources instead of bringing water up sounds smarter

[slender hatch]

Woohoo just unlocked trains!!!!

Anyone have any goid videos or people to check out regarding trains

[haughty patio]

I just do the same rows of 8 plants, 3 water extractors all the time

it never works out first try ofc

[fallow vector]

You guys know what I'd like? a Descostruction upgrade that could delete by volume.
Simply because I built an abomination of a factory and I really wanna redo it T_T

[bronze atlas]

yeah that would be nice, being able to drag out a deconstuction cube or something like that

[fallow vector]

also just unlocked the blueprints, which prompted that thought

[haughty patio]

Ofc this would have been too easy #screenshots message

[bronze atlas]

are you zigzagging back and forth with that?

if so i would just make a connection blueprint or two that is just the belts to connect them

[fallow vector]

and I'm still trying to figure out pipes...

[cunning siren]

Upgrading coal gens in phase 4 cuz RIP virtual environment 🤷 fail to nuclear 😆

[haughty patio]

I guess that could work. but 90deg rotation works

So I had a crazy idea of making a spiraling tower

[bronze atlas]

yeah towers are fun if you can get them to work. I made a fuel gen tower recently

[cunning siren]

Adding "consequences" like "pollution factor" may be a motivation for Nuclear to become more incentivized vs. coal and oil 🤔

[haughty patio]

Yep, looks doable #screenshots message

[harsh thorn]

adding more tapes and more story

[cunning siren]

No solar wind and hydroelectric power is kind of silly in a game with such awesome power storage technology IMO

[harsh thorn]

I don't like just tapes spawning and we need more monsters

[mortal ginkgo]

they got a lore excuse but the issue is that space is too free in this game

sandbox nature, no danger, etc

[cunning siren]

OH? Do tell

[mortal ginkgo]

basically ||alien corruption gets to so much that the whole reason to exist for the company to exploit and consume||

also here is the most important spoiler about why: (beginners don't check) ||ur mom ||

[viscid bobcat]

jeez I just realized how many resources are on the mapo

why am I spending so long to exploit 4 iron nodes?

[cunning siren]

Yea, this game is crazy rich on resources

[abstract heron]

Today is 4 years since update 5 came to EXP if i remember

[viscid bobcat]

they did a q&a on that and the reason is FICSIT just does not care about clean energy

they want more energy production with less space used

[cunning siren]

That I can understand

[viscid bobcat]

so you would see that a solar panel network is not as efficient as a turbo fuel plant

I do kinda wish there was hydroelectric tho

[placid stirrup]

There'samodforthat

[sturdy mural]

guys didnt trains have like a button to center them on the station? i just spent like 3 minutes trying to dock a train that was not cooperating 😔

[hard ivy]

You have any cargo platforms and wagons to dock to? A single locomotive will just immediately undock when docked iirc

[sturdy mural]

yes i have

its just that i cant aim trains for the life of me

so i was going back and forth for 3 minutes

[hard ivy]

I'm not sure if I've ever manually docked a train. Not sure why you'd even want to

[sturdy mural]

im just grabbing a bit of resource onto a train so i can see what goes where etc

and i guess kind of an indicator for readiness

like lets say i have 3 wagons
1 with iron, 1 with copper, 1 with heat sinks
i get the station with iron going, so i dock on it, now i have only copper and heat sinks empty, so i know what i need to do next

[fleet star]

Is there a mod for making building better? I'm thinking of features like Ctrl+scroll for quarter rotations, bigger blueprint makers, horizontal/vertical flipping, etc.

[raven axle]

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[fallow vector]

I find Blueprint mk 3 already quite big

[fleet star]

I want mega prints

👍

[fallow vector]

Ah printing a whole factory?

[fleet star]

Maybe not like that, but just building out better wall/architecture design would be great. Also maybe more colors or materials would be nice

[fallow vector]

understandable.

[fleet star]

I tried being more architectural in creative mode to get some ideas for my next save game, but I feel like beams, billboards, and patterns only go so far

[fallow vector]

also keeps the advice a bit easier, since mods don't have to be taken into account

Might give them a shot when I finished my first playthrough

... so see you in a couple of years there XD

[fleet star]

Ong

[latent meadow]

my lizzarddog has not bough me something in a long time 🙁

[fallow vector]

he needs more pets

[latent meadow]

really ?

evertime i die

[fallow vector]

good to know

[fleet star]

I want to make the atlas station from no man's sky but there's no build options to get the right proportions. Specifically I can't build corners because the inner corners and inverted corners are only 4m or 8m, but I need a longer piece 😟

[latent meadow]

i never had to do that befor

i use to die a lot

i had another world where i had a couple them that i tamed

i use to die a lot i came back they still have somthing for me

[fleet star]

Get some nobelisks and a jetpack and just do thrower combat. Works great on every creature in the game

Forgot this was an option 😮

[latent meadow]

i dont think i want to be that cruel to my doggo

[fleet star]

I meant for the dangerous creatures x_x

[latent meadow]

oh

[fleet star]

Oh ☠️

[latent meadow]

nope he doest not want the palberry

[fleet star]

I remember in my first saw I explored titan forest with ladders, rebar gun, and the parachute only

Biggest mistake ever. Every time I died it felt like an extraction mission

[latent meadow]

why are you tagging me with that

i was talkinga bout the doggo

[fleet star]

Maybe instead of permadeath you could have death with consequences? Like lose all inventory or damage equipment

I think people would play that. I would

Build a sky factory to stay away from permadeath enemies 👀

[fallow vector]

isn't that the risk you're willing to take using that mode?

true

[fleet star]

I played no man's sky on permadeath, it's not too big of a deal. Just makes you play more aggressively/better next time🫠

Builds character, or rage

[reef basin]

skyfactory should be punishable by permadeath

[fleet star]

Noooooo 😔 sky factory is peak!!

I want to make one so much, but I'm delaying on starting a new file because I'm trying to focus on school rn

I want to either make a giant tower or a spaceship-style build, but I need to practice in creative first because I still want to get a good game completion time

I could've gotten such a good run time if I focused on expanding the factory faster. I completed the game once back in June and it took 90 hours

[fallow vector]

what's the current speedrun WR at the moment?

[fleet star]

I didn't even use most of the endgame alts. Also I didn't automate anything past HMF

[reef basin]

look it up at speedrun.com?

[fleet star]

7:44 for any% is WILD

[fallow vector]

oki ^^ Can't expect my laziness being rewarded in a Discord about building factories I guess 😛

[fallow vector]

DAMN

[fleet star]

No

Someone named koouu

Epiphane is second place with 10:55

[fallow vector]

then it hasn't been submitted

ah, never mind. Just found it.

[fleet star]

Well I'm no speed runner for sure, I was glad to get 90 hours because I also spent a good amount of time designing my factories and exploring (I got every sloop and mercer)

[fallow vector]

uh, cool. so they will be running the game there?

tho 7 hrs would be a pretty long stream

Would be in FICSIT's spirit tho 😛

[fleet star]

Are the speed runners allowed to use pre-downloaded blueprints or nah. If so I could see how someone would be able to play the game really quickly

Oh wait nvm I see a rule on the page saying you can't

That's crazy. I would never have imagined the difference would be that big from casual players to speedruns

[fallow vector]

Just imagine how quick you had to build Oo

[reef basin]

big part of it is the fact that you're speedrunning and not just chill building

also you only need to unlock smaller set of things

[fallow vector]

I'm a baby so that's kinda unfathomable for me XD

[fleet star]

True, and I imagine their usage of tickets would speed up a ton of the milestone progress

[charred sandal]

What do you guys consider the most efficient steel ingot recipe?

[fleet star]

The one that mixes iron ingots and coal (forgor the name)

[charred sandal]

solid steel

compacted not worth?

[fleet star]

Depends what stage if the game you're in

If you're able to substitute iron for aluminum, I would just use that to make all your steel

Also because at that point I would use all the local coal for diamonds

[charred sandal]

Wdym s ub iron for aluminum

[fleet star]

I haven't played the game in a while so I forgot what they are all called

[fleet star]

You can make steel beams and steel pipes from aluminum

[charred sandal]

Oh so dont even make steel at some point?

[fleet star]

I was able to beat the game by slooping sloppy aluminum and getting crazy amounts of aluminum bars, they were extremely disposable for the amount of pipes and beams I actually needed

[hard ivy]

I skip steel with iron pipe. aluminium is too precious to use on something that can be made out of iron

[charred sandal]

I dont see a recipe that uses alum for steel pipes

[feral portal]

how can i make tractors more consistent?

[fleet star]

Iirc both the pipes and beams are made at a ratio of 7:1 from aluminum ingots

[charred sandal]

I see 1:1 for beams and nothign for pipes

[fleet star]

Oh wait maybe it was just beams

[shrewd palm]

unless you make like pixel perfect paths and try to account for everything tractors and trucks are just like that

[charred sandal]

Im just about to start working on aluminum for my first time, but i dont understand what to do with the water

Is there a way to dump it back in the lake or something

[shrewd palm]

either send it off to more refineries or turn it into wet concrete and sink

[charred sandal]

rip

[latent meadow]

i guessing having the doggo on platforms dont affect it

and or covered