satisfactory

[reef basin]

man just go to #1038092680493801533 like I said 🙂

and share images of your stations

[zenith pecan]

Without seeing the track layout, we can't know.

[eternal swallow]

k

[shy mulch]

Hey guys my factory doesn't work. Please tell me how to fix

[eternal swallow]

satisfactory calculator is donw 😔

cant show the train line

[reef basin]

if only there was a printscreen button

you wouldn't have to do any of the uploading save shenanigans

and could just show ingame

[eternal swallow]

too big

oil feilds to dune desert

oil islands*

[reef basin]

I asked for images of stations

[eternal swallow]

oh yeah srry 😭

im stoopid

[scenic mirage]

4 manufacturers in a blueprint 😎
#screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Smashed it in there 🤔

[shy mulch]

I did similar but had 4 on the same level, 2x2 facing each other, so the 4 manifolds going down the middle could input to them all

[cunning siren]

Could probably smash more in with that idea

[scenic mirage]

i tried but it wouldnt rlly fit right

[cunning siren]

Maybe lifts needed to "go deep" to make it work?

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[scenic mirage]

did you use a mk2 or mk3 designer

[shy mulch]

mk3

[cunning siren]

OH, thats a Mk2

[scenic mirage]

ya no mk3 yet 😭

[cunning siren]

I've done so many playthroughs I import my old blueprints to new ones 🤷. Robocopy /E /XO can automate this so one can make blueprints in a "creative save" and have them show up in any other. There are silly things the game lets one get away with that I refuse to use though, ultra "cheaty" stuff. Like setting recipes one does not have yet in the blue print or items one has yet to unlock in the awesome shop

[scenic mirage]

Fatal error: [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectArray.cpp] [Line: 534] Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded when trying to add 1 object(s), make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings.

🙃

[leaden turret]

I think that's the error cited in yesterday's dev stream

[scenic mirage]

gonna increase that 100x now

[shy mulch]

Everyone has their own personal calibration on what they consider "cheating" and what they consider acceptable. I'm super harsh on myself in that respect, but I understand a lot of people are a lot more liberal in their use of "advantages" 🙂

[rotund pier]

what do u guys use trains for? carrying ores or carrying parts?

[shy mulch]

yes

low distance - belts
high distance low quantity - drones
high distance high quantity - trains

[hard ivy]

Mostly ores but also some plastic, rubber and aluminium ingots as well

[shy mulch]

You probably don't want to see my trains, I use them for pretty much everything lol

It's not as organised as it sounds either

[solemn crystal]

Why cant we drive drones or access drone inventory

[leaden turret]

drone has no seat

[solemn crystal]

Driving drones might be too op, ok, but why not inventories :(

[leaden turret]

Pioneer hands can't open drone hatch

[hard ivy]

Probably code reasons

[unkempt blade]

Of course we want to see your trains! Don't you know what server this is?

[visual elm]

i have nearly 200h in this game. i only just noticed what the tutorial is called

[reef basin]

the tutorial is called Satisfactory

[visual elm]

no i mean the onboarding bit

it's Pioneer Obligatory Onboarding Program

or POOP for short

[fiery pewter]

Wait what

Lmao

Devs be trolling

[visual elm]

#screenshots message

[fiery pewter]

LMAOO

[visual elm]

these are the goat sim guys remember

[fiery pewter]

True

They made Teardown too

[visual elm]

HUH did they

[fiery pewter]

Yeag

[visual elm]

steam says dev and publisher are tuxedo labs, not coffee stain?

[fiery pewter]

Booted it up a few minutes ago, saw the CS logo

[visual elm]

unless they published it on other consoles?

[fiery pewter]

I have Teardown on PS5

I want it on pc solely for the plane mod

[visual elm]

nope Saber Interactive on consoles

[fiery pewter]

Did my homework

Tuxedo Labs was aquired by the embracer group, which is from/owned by-ish Coffee Stain

[cunning siren]

I have power pole on my hotbar and I'm not sure why. When was the last time I used it? 😆

[hard ivy]

It's there by default but I don't know how you play without placing individual poles

Unless you only use wall and ceiling connectors

[visual elm]

or he's later game and means the mk1

[pulsar niche]

Interestingly there is a unique bit of ada dialogue for killing a lizard doggo with a riffle

[visual elm]

i vote we shun anderson for whatever series of events led up to that discovery

[hard ivy]

There's 11 different messages for killing a bean and 14 for killing a doggo

Though I don't think any of them are specific to a method

[pulsar niche]

Officer, it jumped between the riffle and the spider by themselves

[vivid hearth]

can you have more than 1 lizard doggo ?

[true mulch]

As many as you can find

[livid palm]

I somehow managed to have 30 ammo in my rifle last night, and couldn't reload until it dropped to under 15. Is this a feature or did I just encounter a rare issue?

[vivid hearth]

and they are all gather stuff for me ?

[leaden turret]

@grave burrow got a screenshot of your doggo pen?

[haughty pond]

Hey, was there VCs here before or no...

Also hello

[leaden turret]

if people can't be trusted with external emojis and embeds, what makes you think they can be trusted with voice chat? 😛

[grave burrow]

I do somewhere. All 4009 doggos

[solemn crystal]

i noticed that like instantly, glad someone found it out also 🤣

[visual elm]

i never got the onboarding cheevo i don't think so starting a new save i thought i might as well

[grave burrow]

Yeah each one will gather an item about every 3-5 minutes so even having 10 lizard doggos tamed will give you a crazy amount of items. I don't need to run an ammo factory as my 1.0 play through doggos supply all ammo and bombs I could ever use. Definitely worth taming some early on.

[visual elm]

do y'all process at source and then transport? or transport and process elsewhere?

[clever field]

is there a workaround for falling through the ground?

[crisp barn]

I just had a realization how little oil is actually on the map

(not including the resource wells)

I feel like the game jumps from 1 to 100 very quickly once you reach phase 4

[clever field]

restarting did the trick

[hard ivy]

There's plenty if you use the efficient recipes

And 4-4.5x less if you don't

[scenic mirage]

why do my number hotkeys not work? the actual numbers work but it wont place anything
(1234567890)

[crisp barn]

yeah, TIL plastic/rubber loop exists

my main concern tho is transporting so much rubber plastic from one spot

[shrewd palm]

I’m pretty sure that’s just a bug

I’ve fixed it by interacting with a machine

Just open the menu and close it and that should do it

[scenic mirage]

ya it seemed like that fixed it

still weird tho 😭

[haughty pond]

Idk, maybe because people are so braindead they cant even understand the most simplest of things and want to be a dumbass all the time, I dont even tolorate that crap.

But whatever, people wont ever change anyways.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah what's wrong with people? Don't they know factory carts bring you joy and are clearly the best vehicle? Imagine using drones... can't be me

[placid stirrup]

Don't you ever get tired of the bit? Like at some point you have to start questioning whether screaming a meme into the void is worth it or not

[visual elm]

hm

[unkempt blade]

What's there to get tired of? Cart life!

[leaden turret]

"old man yells at cloud" is just screaming into the void for boomers

[hard ivy]

Then don't build everything in one spot

[visual elm]

fuck carts i like my spaghetti conveyors

i say that, my actual lines in this new build are pretty okay, it's just interconnectivity i get spaghettified

[hard ivy]

That's why I have them blocked. It was funny the first 2 times, now it's just annoying

[unkempt blade]

It's ok if you use drones though. People should play the game however is fun for them even if their decisions are objectively wrong

[visual elm]

#screenshots message

[haughty pond]

Huh? What were they doing?

Should I block them or what?

[unkempt blade]

I'm just a hard working factory cart enthusiast 🙂

[placid stirrup]

Did you hear "commit to the bit" once and take it to heart? It's ok to be genuine every once in a while.

[haughty pond]

smh

[unkempt blade]

I love you. I hope you're feeling better later ❤️

[placid stirrup]

The meme of using factory carts for transportation in lieu of other transportation methods has been going on for... A long time now

[crisp barn]

well, the oil nodes stay in the same place, so you either transport oil everywhere or the output products everywhere

[unkempt blade]

There's also using biomass in lieu of other power and the alternative speed run formats. I am a person of great depth and variety

[placid stirrup]

Hey I love you too and I know you have a lot of experience in the game, which is why I'm just curious as a fellow amateur comedian

[unkempt blade]

I'm just the Borat of factory carts. It's a living

[crisp barn]

Nord Stream 3 😭

[placid stirrup]

And typically output products are less than the inputs haha

[crisp barn]

all I wanted is a supercomputer factory and now Im apparently building a massive oil refinement plant

[unkempt blade]

The fun answer is to move liquids by vehicle even though that's generally a higher effort path. Have you considered... ||trains||?

[placid stirrup]

How much plastic/rubber is your SC factory using? I don't recall it being crazy any way you slice it

[crisp barn]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-iliketrains-trains-gif-4905803

embed fail smh

[placid stirrup]

No embeds here

[crisp barn]

1560 plastic/m and 720 rubber/m

[unkempt blade]

depending on the recipes they use it could be a fair bit of plastic for sure doing circuits and computers and stuff like that

[placid stirrup]

Hot damn how many SC per min is that?

[crisp barn]

caterium computers are a life saver

[crisp barn]

15

it was initially 7.5 but then I realized I could double it and give it to the next person but the next person is also me so yeah

[placid stirrup]

Golly, mister. I think I landed somewhere similar but I only had a Mk5 and Mk4 for plastic and rubber, respectively

[crisp barn]

wdym

most plastic is for circuit boards

[placid stirrup]

The alts I used only required half the amount of plastic compared to your production line

I also used ckt boards and AI limiters, I don't remember which exact alts I used though

[crisp barn]

even if its more efficient, Im too far in the construction to change it

[unkempt blade]

there's plenty of other resources if you want to do more a different way later!

[placid stirrup]

Wouldn't be more efficient per se, just shifted inputs to something else I'm sure. If you've got the oil, might as well use it! I stay away from transporting oil myself though

[unkempt blade]

my 1.1 save has been "roll the dice to pick recipes" which has been a lot of fun

[crisp barn]

Ill move the plastic production outside of the factory

so I can optimize it

[placid stirrup]

Nice! I bet that'll feel easier to keep track of. Those refineries are honkin' chonkers

says the person who used a bunch of pure recipes on said build

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> ask Hannah for a literal d20 to decide on recipes?

get some BG3-style ADA narration going on

[unkempt blade]

Oh jeez then I could decide anything I do. I just use a D6 right now because mostly there are only like 3 options

[leaden turret]

rolls 1 [ada voice] screw-based recipe for you

rolls 20 bonus reroll on drive

[unkempt blade]

Screw recipes are fun because they want you to build a little differently if you're doing like node-consuming factory scale

[leaden turret]

2-10 = choice one, 11-19 = choice 2

[unkempt blade]

but in the spirit of DnD there's not a "bad" roll there's just a roll that tells the story differently 😄

[leaden turret]

alternatively, one could say that rolling 1 = "you have to choose, but you can't re-roll this drive"

[placid stirrup]

I've heard enough

You're invited to the cookout session 1

[crisp barn]

I posted a screenshot of the factory in #screenshots

[placid stirrup]

Off topic but I'm pretty sure Matt Mercer is now aware of the dream/nightmare I had with him in it

[leaden turret]

Matt Mercer is aware of the dream Hannah had with him in it.

cos

[placid stirrup]

Haha yes I love the Easter egg

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> mental image for you: ||Labrynth's david bowie crystal ball juggling, but Matt Mercer in the Jareth costume and juggling||

[placid stirrup]

But Matt and a bunch of other DnD titans did a charity event the other day and Ginny Di responded to my story about it

[crisp barn]

fun fact, both floors process the same amount of resources, because I decided to double it after building the first floor

somehow it all fit together

[placid stirrup]

I started taking that approach for really big builds I wanted to SCIM copy in (come at me, haters)

[crisp barn]

SCIM?

[placid stirrup]

Really clean though! Would love to see a fully enclosed factory by the end

[crisp barn]

will update whenever I finish it! (If I dont forget lmao)

[placid stirrup]

I'm shocked you aren't aware of it considering how nice your factories look! The online map editor/calculator

[crisp barn]

oh, that

I do know, just never seen people call it that

[tranquil maple]

IM pretty sure its an acronym

[placid stirrup]

SCIM is pretty much only ever called SCIM, you might be thinking of one of the other tools/planners out there

[crisp barn]

AM, I think therefore I am AM

[tranquil maple]

oh

...

[placid stirrup]

Satisfactory calculator and interactive map

[crisp barn]

I added the front view in #screenshots , tho its a little outdated

wait

its more than a little outdated

wrong screenshot

[leaden turret]

is pronounced "scheme" because french

[gloomy oriole]

so placing a splitter/merger on a lift belt that passes through 1m or 2m foundation won't let me put it flush with the floor but does so with 4m foundation, is that a bug or feature?

[versed mesa]

#screenshots message

[crisp barn]

#screenshots message
heres the more recent version

[versed mesa]

💪

[crisp barn]

it will probably be smaller that I expected since I can now fit more stuff in place of removed oil related refineries

still pretty chunky

its weird because it feels both big and small at the same time

[placid stirrup]

what about my anium?

[versed mesa]

Your what ?

[crisp barn]

I can feel the crunchiness of that screenshot xD

[versed mesa]

Lol

[placid stirrup]

You're talking about my anium in your photo

[versed mesa]

Uranium?

[placid stirrup]

Yeah why you talking about it like that

[versed mesa]

Because thats what you call it

Later ill be setting up some nukeclear gens and the water to feed them now not sure how many ill have built soon find out once done

[scenic mirage]

-1hp -1hp -1hp -1hp -1hp

[versed mesa]

Yeah slow lol

[scenic mirage]

i could be setting up nuclear rn but no i have to redo my factory bc i built everything randomly
then: #screenshots message
now: #screenshots message

[versed mesa]

Nice theys things have tobe done to make them look great

[scenic mirage]

im also tryna get trains setup too

but idk where imma have all that go

im kinda still winging it

[unkempt blade]

A good train network is like jazz. Don't let those boring civil engineers tell you otherwise!

[scenic mirage]

annoying? wdym 😭

[crisp barn]

do you make your factories scalable?

[pulsar niche]

If any innocent lizard doggos stumble upon me I may accidentally check this out

[unkempt blade]

"This bridge will collapse. Why does it have to be designed to look like a giant spider reaching across the river?" - they just don't understand true art

[unkempt blade]

not really, I design them with a known amount of input resources and when I need more of whatever they produce I build another factory

[small pebble]

When do trains unlock? T5?

[shrewd palm]

t6

i think you get trucks in t5 tho

[hard ivy]

But who would want those lol

Honestly, the only reason I unlock tractors is because they add 3 inv slots too
And tractors get unlocked against my will together with mk4 belts

[shrewd palm]

i think i might be at risk of trains crashing my power grid once my factory gets up and running but we ball

[shrewd palm]

true

[shrewd palm]

that is if my trains stop tweaking

the autopilot thinks the unloading station is unreachable but i can manually drive it there just fine

[hard ivy]

station wrong way probably

[shrewd palm]

indeed it was

[toxic spruce]

How big is the game on PC?

[placid stirrup]

25.49GB

[toxic spruce]

The pre-download on xbox is currently 10gb i guess their testing the game then

[placid stirrup]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning siren]

Mah FPS in Dune seem to be better than in other biomes, maybe cuz not much plant life 🤔

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
1200 wire and 1200 quickwire from one pure caterium node (itll be more once i get mk6 conveyors)

[placid stirrup]

35% more?

[scenic mirage]

dunno exactly how id do it yet

[placid stirrup]

I've planned factories for the eventual input capacity at time, so I would have designed it to handle the 1200/min resources from the planning stage

[scenic mirage]

thatd prob be smarter for me to do

but w blueprints it shouldnt be too hard to just quickly slap down a few more

[unkempt blade]

It's such a burden to have so many vehicles to choose from. This could be avoided by following The One True Path for vehicles

[cunning siren]

302 altitude sky train this run, why? Cuz F going up and down to avoid geography 😆

[zenith pecan]

The train.

[cunning siren]

OK... homing ammo just killed a doggo... big reason not to use it so far

[zenith pecan]

I've used nukes to clear doggo's, so why not homing ammo that got bored.

[shrewd palm]

i think i have reached peak productivity

[cunning siren]

Can elevator take me to space station 🤔

[shrewd palm]

3 days after starting the "move resources into my main base" phase of my main base i have finally moved the most important resources into my base

[unkempt blade]

rotors, reinforced plates, and iron rods?

[rustic pier]

Encased pipes seems like a good recipe. 5 steel i think and 3 concrete.

For 5 pipes

[feral geyser]

It is

[white dawn]

Yeah, that's one of the few alt recipes which have a pretty wide consensus of "this is good." :D

[unkempt blade]

which puts it in the rare company of recipes like cast screws

[cunning siren]

When you run a loooong train track and realize its off by 1 tile a the end of the track

[unkempt blade]

There are no mistakes just happy little accidents

[cunning siren]

It turns out track was straight, station was off so... 🤷 not so bad

[rustic pier]

Works for me because i have a building handling copper, aluminum, and concrete. And a stones throw away is a building for steel which is supplying beams to the first building.

[marble trellis]

why is my train T intersection not working

there is a signal thats jst not working

[feral geyser]

again, send screenshots of your setup in #1038092680493801533

[marble trellis]

ah ye

[feral geyser]

we can't help without seeing what's going on

[marble trellis]

done

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1430602227923292241

[shrewd palm]

Bunch of iron, limestone, and coal

Gonna get copper and caterium and sam and all that after I get the stuff for mk4 belts up and running

I only have like 1200 encased beams left

[valid bloom]

I wish I had recorded this, but I was on a spire coast pillar with a big boar charging me. My preferred method of fighting is nobelisk and jet pack so I was just hover around launch bombs at it, but then it was charging at me and ran over a nobelisk which I detonated at the perfect time to just... bump it up into the air, with full horizontal force and it flew off into the distance, destined to land to its death somewhere in the rocky coast

[rustic pier]

I must go my planet needs me!

[civic reef]

i hate screws tho

[cunning siren]

The best part of the game is making screws. ~ Snutt Treptow, August 15th, 2023

[unkempt blade]

then you need top tier recipes like cast screws even more than the rest of us!

[leaden turret]

Eat shit, chat!
~ Snutt Treptow, April 19th, 2022

[clever stone]

One of my least favorite things in the game I think has to be railway signal management

Which, for the record this is a skill issue on my part not the game. Having set up a train station with a complex intersection last night I can say it was one of the sloggiest experiences in a while

[storm swift]

how could i make my train fast its so slow

[clever stone]

Trains don’t go any faster

[storm swift]

so i just use drones

[unkempt blade]

I heard if you paint the train red it goes faster

[storm swift]

nah

[clever stone]

Yeah red makes you go faster

That’s why my whole factory is red

To speed up production

[clever stone]

I think if there was like, one thing the game could do better is tell me which specific signals are causing the issues for the whole track

Because I was going around looking for the problem and I didn’t even realize it was just a stray block signal that was by all other accounts working fine

So it would be nice to have something to show me which signals are erroring and what signals are causing others to error

[small pebble]

what exactly do alt recipes do? i just got iron pipes.. does that mean i can use iron pipes isntead of steel pipes in recipes?

[clever stone]

So alt recipes are

Exactly as they say. They are alternate recipes. Sidegrades

[unkempt blade]

yeah it's different ingredients and/or produced items sometimes produced by different buildings

[small pebble]

to what though lol.. so iro pipes are a substitute to steel pipes?

[clever stone]

Yeah

[small pebble]

okay thoguht so. perfect thanks

[unkempt blade]

they produce steel pipes, they just use different inputs in this case

[clever stone]

Basically with that you don’t need steel but you need a lot of iron so that’s the trade

So it saves factory space by requiring a little more resources

[small pebble]

awesome thank you

[clever stone]

And iron pipes are a really good recipe imo so good choice

[cunning siren]

Saves coal really at the cost of iron, I'll take that trade every time

[clever stone]

If you just started gathering alt recipes I have one other bit of advice

[small pebble]

i know dont pick them and ave em haha

[clever stone]

[unkempt blade]

and make sure to yell "big bucks no whammy" before you see what recipes it offers you

otherwise it's guaranteed biocoal

[clever stone]

I still think my least favorite alts are the ones that are for stuff like more ingots or alts for incredibly simple parts like wire or iron plates

[cunning siren]

Iron wire is pretty handy though 🤷

[unkempt blade]

a lot of that type of recipe are *really good for wringing every little bit of resources out of the nodes you're using so they're best when you have tons of extra power and you're scaling big

[clever stone]

Yeah I know but I’m already making enough wire with copper and iron goes into more versatile recipes

Copper like

Goes into three things directly and four if you count smelting it into aluminum

So that’s my view on my factory setup at least

[cunning siren]

Copper powder go Om nom nom on the copper

[unkempt blade]

I like iron wire a lot early game because I can build near iron without worrying about where the nearest copper is or how much effort it is to get it to the same place. There's waaaay more iron than any other resources

[clever stone]

I prefer the alts that simplify crafting chains, like OC supercomputer

Spares me from needing another manufacturer when I can just use an assembler

With that being said I’m now looking at the other alt for supercomputers

…..What exactly is the benefit for the superstate alt?

[fallow portal]

Hi there, is apple m-chip native support coming one day/planned please ?

[cunning siren]

Tools says Super-State Computer is the most efficient assuming all efficient alts used 🤷

[unkempt blade]

you might find this interesting, I think it should still be accurate for 1.1 https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[cunning siren]

Supercomputers are not used for sinking BWD so, not that important to me. Looks like for Space Elevator stuff mostly

[unkempt blade]

but really it comes down to what your preferences are for a lot of this stuff. Some recipes are "better" but if you don't want to build batteries or you have big plans for your sulfur or something like that you'd stay away from OC supercomputers

a lot of times it was just picking the recipes that have the most convenient resource nodes for me 🤷

[clever stone]

Yeah mood

For me it’s picking what works best for transportation

[unkempt blade]

there's way more resources on the map than a normal playthrough is going to use so there's room to pick recipes for whatever reason really

[clever stone]

So real

I’m on phase 4 and I’ve barely even touched the north half of the map

The farthest I’ve plundered is the swamp for uranium and the west oil beaches for, well, oil

I do have plans for stuff if I do end up expanding out north but for the most part that’ll be phase 5 or postgame goals

[cunning siren]

Ahhhh, just got hoverpack, let the lazy mode begin! 😆

[visual elm]

nooooo my laptop crashed meaning it reset my progress towards seeing all the "take a fucking break" messages

I'd just hit 8h

[versed light]

anyone actually think the game will stay locked 60 on console when theres a huge factory? i just dont see it happening

[unkempt blade]

depends at what graphics quality

[clever stone]

I still think hoverpack is much better than jeptpack

I’ve found myself placing down pylons just for the sake of having flight in a certain area

[visual elm]

it's 2 generators per pump right?

[white dawn]

1 Coal-Powered generator needs 45/min water, and 1 Water Extractor (not a pump! pumps are a different thing) provides 120/min

[clever stone]

I dunno about early game but certainly fits late game

[white dawn]

If you want to work in whole numbers, the ratio works out to 8 coal gens to 3 water extractors

If you underclock a water extractor to 75%, that'd be enough for exactly two coal gens. (Or just leave it at 100% and allow the extractor to be idle 25% of the time)

[visual elm]

i am pulling water directly up from source (not far, maybe 10m) so the idling would be useful to ensure the system is full

[white dawn]

It's two different usecases, really. Jetpack is more the exploration tool, whereas hoverpack is more the factory-building tool. They can certainly expand into either niche (I know that some folks even prefer factory-building with jetpacks), but IMO neither is strictly "better" than the other. They're just different

[white dawn]

Honestly wouldn't matter either way. So long as there's no piping problems and you have the rates set fine, an extractor at 75% would keep the coal gens perfectly full regardless

[visual elm]

i just like keeping pipes at 100% capacity/flow rate, i am not good at maths so i just use lots of buffers

either in game when i get them or just like, makeshift

something producing faster than the next thing can process? just whack a container in the chain

[white dawn]

In a best-case scenario, buffers don't cause problems but provide zero benefit. In a slightly-worse-case-scenario, they cause extra problems. I'd highly recommend NOT using buffers

[clever stone]

Yeah of course, everyone is gonna have a pref lol I think I’m just used to the hoverpack too much atp lmao

[white dawn]

If you do an extractor at 75% and hook it up to two coal gens (and otherwise have no piping mistakes), those pipes will run at 100% flow rate.

[visual elm]

explain?
cos like, with what i said with items, if a buffer is full in that way, just take the excess and put em in the sink

[white dawn]

Again, not trying to dissuade you from having your extractors go idle; just saying that underclocking so that the rates match can also result in a perfectly working system

[clever stone]

Can you elaborate? I use buffers as storage containers for rocket fuel drop offs and storage so there’s always some in the bank when I make canisters for it

[stoic falcon]

Is there something you can put on a pipeline with gas to prevent backflow, like a one way valve

[white dawn]

Two things:

1. Buffers just have a lot of unintuitive behavior which are extremely likely to unexpectedly bite you
2. Buffers can hide problems, so for instance if you have a piping problem in your system but a filled buffer is hiding it, you might walk away from the factory only to have things start failing hours later when you're doing something else entirely. Better to know about the problems ahead of time, when you're still in the process of watching your new factory to make sure it works

[visual elm]

this doesn't so much apply to like makeshift buffers for items (i.e. a storage container in the chain) right?

[white dawn]

If you have a storage container in the middle of a production line, that could absolutely have the same problem-hiding effect

(though you're right that storage containers by and large don't have the kind of unintuitive behavior that fluid buffers have. Pipes are complex; fluid buffers introduce more complexity)

(Except for the output behavior of the two ports for ISCs, when you have two belts attached, of course. :)

Anyway, as I say: nothing wrong with having your extractors provide more liquid than the machines are consuming. Having a machine go idle isn't going to hurt it.

But you can also tweak your clocking so that the input/output rates perfectly match, and you'll have a system that works perfectly too (so long as you don't have any other piping problems going on, anyway)

[clever stone]

Hrmmmm

So then what should I do with my excess residual water from Plutonium automation? What’s the best way to get rid of it? Just pump it into another refinery/blender?

[stoic falcon]

I do buffers in chains too
Pass steps through a container just because
It provides a single point p check and see if I'm producing enough for current production, or if I still have some wiggle room on this component and can make something else with the extra
Though I also send overflow of of stuff to sinks, so production lines are always moving

[white dawn]

Same thing you did with recycled/residual water in Aluminum, etc

ie: either loop it back to earlier steps in the process (personally I always recommend keeping fresh+recycled pipe systems totally separate, and underclock/overclock appropriately), or send the water to some other process (many folks like Wet Concrete, etc)

For nuclear processing in particular, the ratios involved with Sulfuric Acid tend to be particularly nice for recycling water

[clever stone]

Thanks for the advice I’ll look into it

[white dawn]

But then you've put yourself in a situation where it could take hours to notice that you've ended up, for instance, 1/min short

A buffer just very very slowly shrinking over time

Better to just be able to see if things are starving right away instead of walking away thinking things are fine, IMO

[charred sandal]

Are there any commonly recommended guides for understanding trains

[clever stone]

Google images

And also https://youtube.com/shorts/S6S7VMCM4bg?si=aqoG5HrtYV3gAaJB

[charred sandal]

Thanks

[stoic falcon]

Meh
That's why I prefer to see tune buffer full
If it is shrinking at a certain point, I know what step to start on
I'm not a huge stickler for 100% everything all the time

[shy zenith]

can you do two way tracks in satisfactory trains?

[clever stone]

yes but it’s a mild pain

But yes

[white dawn]

But then you're stuck waiting until the buffer is full. If you just Don't Have The Buffer, you'll be able to see it right away. :)

[clever stone]

My last question is a bit more open ended for you but how would you fix the buffer if you could change how it works?

[white dawn]

Fluid Buffers specifically, you mean? Honestly I just don't think they even have a niche that needs filling, apart from some very specific purposes. They're necessary for fluid freight platforms for trains, is their main niche.

And I can see value in them for the purposes of quickly flooding systems, if you're still building pipes but have some fluid generating behind them. (Though in that case, I'd recommend dismantling the buffers once that flooding has happened)

[clever stone]

Good points

[small pebble]

am i able to add trucks to a truck path or do i need to create a new path everytime

[white dawn]

But they're simply just Not Actually Needed for pipe systems. And our usual advice is to keep pipe systems as simple as possible. Buffers go against that, etc

[clever stone]

I think you can copy and paste paths

[small pebble]

how?

[white dawn]

As I say, you certainly can have working pipe systems which involve buffers. Many have done so! (I've done so myself, in the past!) Nowadays, I'm mostly just through with the effort of debugging pipe systems, so buffers are one thing I just always do without

[clever stone]

I appreciate the insight!

Thanks again

[white dawn]

Yes, when you interact with a vehicle to set a path, you can choose an existing path for it to join. I believe you've gotta be pretty near a node on the path, though

Though the paths are per-vehicle-type. You can't add a truck to a path that was made by a tractor, for instance

[stoic falcon]

Then I go do other things for a while
The buffer isn't my only troubleshooting method
I look at the lights, I look at the efficiency %, check how full the belts are
It's just one of many things to check
And sometimes it's easier to buzz over to 1 container for a general idea then check the lights on 32 refineries

[white dawn]

If you're looking for a path which is very similar to an existing one, where you've got a common "highway" area and the paths only diverge briefly, then you're going to have to re-record a whole new one; there's no copy+paste like that, if that's what you mean

[small pebble]

it isnt working lol. i have one path going, but the second truck wont pick up that path

[white dawn]

Hm, honestly not sure; I've always had it basically Just Work™ when I've done it in the past.

[small pebble]

well wtf

[white dawn]

Maybe try driving the vehicle so that it's literally touching one of the path nodes?

[small pebble]

i did hahaa

[white dawn]

Possibly it's gotta be right next to the start?

[visual elm]

three burners should be enough to kickstart my 4 extractors, and one miner, until the coal can sustain itself yeah?

[small pebble]

tried that too lol

[white dawn]

Heh, no clue, sorry! Sounds odd.

[small pebble]

the load path'

isnt pulling up even..

[shrewd hatch]

guys why does my game stutter when opening the build menu

[mighty kayak]

Is there a known bug with foundation placement snapping? My foundations will suddenly be offset by 45 degrees when snapping and the only thing that seems to fix it is restarting the session. I don't know what triggers it but sometimes I see it once every few hours sometimes I'll see it once every few minutes

[small pebble]

yeah i cant select a path

[shrewd hatch]

I found out a way to fly in the game

this game is way too buggy

[sick nest]

i can't seem to find any good blueprints for just basic factory stuff, eg; refinery x4 to the left, etc... can someone provide me with some basic but good blueprints?

[cunning siren]

As you mentioned they are so basic everybody expects posting them will be a waste as everybody will spend 5min to make their own basic ones 🤷

[sick nest]

that is true...

[charred sandal]

So if I have a large track spanning across my whole world that I intend to have all my trains using (dual lane ofc) I would need to add block signals every like, idk 10 foundations throughout to prevent stoppage?

[cunning siren]

Why do I automate gas and ion filters 😭 I do this every time and then realize how silly having even a box of them is much less fully automated 😆

[white dawn]

Automation game gotta automate?

I've never regretted automating them, personally. Not too difficult to do, especially at the scales you'd need/want to automate

[shy mulch]

Automators gonna automate. Potatoes gonna potate.

[shy mulch]

I even had automated miner automated though, makes 1/min and feeds into a storage, which feeds into a depot. Hard to argue there's a need for that, but meh, one more thing I'll never need to think about

[cunning siren]

Once depot is up, I auto craft those while I make some food and... by the time I get back I gotz phat stacks

Some stuff is simple like that like gas filters and ammo, can probably get away with hand feeding over fully automating, either one is fine I guess

[white dawn]

Stackable portable miners + Depot + revamped automation recipe remains one of my favorite 1.0 changes ever

[shy mulch]

I try to avoid any afk-stuff

[visual elm]

before i commit and build the entire wall, wiring them like this on one side means every outlet, on both sides, is connected, yeah? #screenshots message

[abstract heron]

i am thinking turning DD into refeinry base hub i just don't know how much iron ore copper ore and limestone ore and probbaly coal ore in total

[visual elm]

i always make a power wall, it makles shit so much easier, you need power? no need to worry about finding an open pole, just take from the wall

[hard junco]

hey can someone tell me about pipeline pumps, if i have a pipe coming from the bottom (the sea) up to the coal generator its a straight line upwards will a pump work normally here thats all i have to do? when placing the pump i can see the water going all the way up until it reaches the pipes going in the generators

i cant send screenshots here unfortunately but hopefully u get the idea

oh and the generators need 45m2 of water meaning 8 will need 360m2 of water but the mk1 pipes have a capacity of only 300m2 how do i solve this?

[fickle oriole]

when you enter a hypertube junction, how does the default exit direction get chosen? Seems pretty random...

[clever stone]

The left exit is always the default

It just seems random because you enter from different directions so the "left" exit is always different

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[reef basin]

same as if you needed 120/min items but only had mk1 belts

[placid stirrup]

Those are the most efficient starter layouts

[hard junco]

i never used this method of having 120/min items with mk1 belts i didnt even know this is possible lmao
but i did the second solution two water extractor at the beginning and one at the end, didnt know this was possible either its cool

[charred sandal]

Is there a way to make a long train track on an incline without it being wavy?

[abstract heron]

how manny?

[reef basin]

well the "method" is simple - build more belts

[cyan valve]

nitrogen gas dont need pumps right? since its gas?

[zenith pecan]

Correct.

[visual elm]

it;s so nice when you finish a line and then turn it all on, and it just comes to life

[haughty torrent]

I know this is far from an original idea but at this point the only thing that could make Satisfactory better would be if they added fishing for the downtime.

[hardy shard]

i wish that was the case with fluids, always seems to be something going wrong 😭

[stoic falcon]

Fishing for some foods/ inhaler ingredients
And the super rare... power eels?

[visual elm]

i guess you could say it's satisfactory

[haughty torrent]

I don't care if the fishing is ever useful for anything. Just full on Red Dead Redemption style fishing.

[cyan valve]

exploiting marine life = satisfactory

[stoic falcon]

I do feel it's a bit of a shame
The world, every single inch is beautiful
The water is beautiful
The lighting is beautiful
But underwater... there's nothing

[visual elm]

best part is i had concrete running on a seperate grid just churning away all the while, i have almost a full storage container

[urban fractal]

Hey i just have a Quick question abt satisfactory on console do they plan to have a pre order ?

[charred sandal]

when people say your dual tracks need to be atleast one foundation apart, do they mean centre from centre, or inside edge from inside edge?

[clever stone]

More reason to siphon it to save humanity

[reef basin]

no

get it on pc, don't need preorder

[urban fractal]

I'm on ps5 i'm poor lol

[reef basin]

PCs don't cost that much more

[spice spindle]

Do people tend to set up individual factories for each separate end product?

[reef basin]

yeah, often

[spice spindle]

Got it.

def gonna do that once I get trains set up. just gotta complete phase 2 :sob;

[reef basin]

but it's just one way to play obviously 🙂

[bronze atlas]

my factory is a mess, i do have a few of those type of factories, but its mostly starter spaghetti and power plants.

[visual elm]

i forget how BUSTED bladerunners are

[candid torrent]

yeah i have a giant cluster of factories all on slightly different foundation grids so its very ugly

[sullen gull]

It's not too difficult to connect different "grids" together.

[storm wagon]

how do i make upside down ramp foundations?

[candid torrent]

curve mode is my favorite hack for fixing that little oops

[feral geyser]

Inverted ramps in AWESOME shop

[storm wagon]

oh okay

[candid torrent]

how about we just do a nice wide curve instead of the 90 degree bend

[storm wagon]

@feral geyser tyvm

[sullen gull]

@feral geyser Haha, daaayum .... I looked 🙁

[frail sleet]

looked? 😄

[sullen gull]

Dumb "game" that's been around forever it seems.

[frail sleet]

what did you look at

[abstract heron]

is this correct 🙂

11400= 7600 concrete 10500= 26250 copper ingots 27000 iron ore 50140 iron ingots

[grim carbon]

am i doing something wrong?

every chance i get to look for iron deposits, these damn beasts attack me and i don't know how to defend myself

BTW, i've just downloaded the game after seeing it went on sale on steam

[sullen gull]

Dodge/hit in early game

[shrewd palm]

get a xeno zapper

[feral geyser]

The upside down A-OK symbol was referenced in an old episode of Malcolm in the Middle, and if you held it below your waist and someone looked at it, you would punch them.

[grim carbon]

i got the zapper thing in my hand

[shrewd palm]

and yeah for the hogs you can mostly just run circles around them

[frail sleet]

left click

[grim carbon]

how do i use it to shoot something?

[sullen gull]

It's origins are way before that

[shy zenith]

are path signals suppose to be red cancel sign even though my train still can go through it?

[shrewd palm]

its a melee weapon so you have to be pretty close to tem to use it

[sullen gull]

No, it's a melee weapon

[abstract heron]

i am thinking how to get 1567 Refeinrys in to the Dune Desert and then the water

[grim carbon]

what does that mean? melee?

[shrewd palm]

they usually stop after a few seconds of moving so thats your chance to zap them

[grim carbon]

they keep attacking until they kill me

[sullen gull]

Firstly, go find some slugs, sloop them, and overclock so there are less refineries 😏

[abstract heron]

i am thinking of doing all of dis 11400= 7600 concrete 10500= 26250 copper ingots 27000 iron ore 50140 iron ingots

[sullen gull]

If the "combat" aspect is not your "cup of tea", then you can put the fauna on passive or Retaliate (Though, the retaliate doesn't seem to bet working, so essentially same as passive))

[abstract heron]

i just want to make sure my math is correct

[feral geyser]

that's why i said it was referenced in there

[sullen gull]

Fair

[sullen gull]

Is that to total quantity of the ore in/around the dune desert?

[abstract heron]

i think so mk3 miner i could not find anyything for it so i want to make sure i am correct

[sullen gull]

Lol, just realized the name ... I'm just going to out out on the limb and say "Yup, sounds good" 😏

[abstract heron]

i am debating on doing it by hand no BP

[shrewd palm]

are you trying to hurt yourself

[sullen gull]

Oh, well, then some would probably question a diagnosis of autisim or something I'd guess 😏

[abstract heron]

no i just wannt know/maybe doing it

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[abstract heron]

huh

[sullen gull]

Probably not the best tact I'll admit. Point is, BPing it all would save a lot of time. Though I'm sure you're aware.

[abstract heron]

ik

[shrewd palm]

if you're playing satisfactory theres a pretty good chance you have the tism i think

[abstract heron]

i have over 17,369 hrs on record

[candid torrent]

have you ever closed the game ever

[shrewd palm]

ive been so desensitized by other games that doesnt even sound like that much

[candid torrent]

that’s a tiny bit under 2 years

[sullen gull]

Naaaaah. Like, for me personally, it scratches an itch of wanting to create something; While I have a [humble brag] pretty awesome shop to make just about anything. Main issue being is I seem to be better at helping others through their projects more than I am copming up with my own. When people ask me "Oh, what sorts of things do you make", it's hard to explain that I don't make much as my mind explodes with possibilities as soon as I step into my shop... Autisim? Idk, maybe, who knows. Either way, Satisfactory as been an awesome "sratching post" for sure 😏

[shrewd palm]

fair

also i think you referenced the awesome shop from the popular game satisfactory in there

[candid torrent]

your name is tinker i would be really scared if you weren’t into problem solving

[sullen gull]

Lol, ok, I c all a bit of BS lol... I mean, I know you've racked a lot for sure... but, 17k?

[abstract heron]

its legit 😄

[shrewd palm]

17k is a lot but compared to some people

[sullen gull]

Lol, to be fair, there is also an idiot in there 😏

[shrewd palm]

barely scratching the surface

[candid torrent]

i’m a huge idiot who appreciates problem solving

[shrewd palm]

just go to ark's steam page and check out the reviews

[sullen gull]

I mean, I am sitting at about 4300 ....but ..

[unborn nova]

does anyone prefer explorer vs the tractor for vehicles?

[sullen gull]

For me, the "production" part is simple. It's the "purty building" I want to get better at lol

[candid torrent]

i do not make pretty machine but i make big functional

i got big functionals 😔

[sullen gull]

I do. Only mostly due to I like exploring the map, and not hugely keen on using vehicles for logistics.

[dense violet]

to ride around in? I prefer blade runners and things like zip line and hyper tubes

[unborn nova]

ye ive never used tractor with the path thing

[unborn nova]

ya idk which i like for exploring where i havent been already

[sullen gull]

Currently working on 160+ power shards a minute. Though still depating if I want that much/want to use shards.

[dense violet]

so much of the terrain is terrible for any of the vehicles, imo much simpler to use the jet pack and blade runners to sprint slide jump around

[sullen gull]

Utilizing the tractor is nice for the cargo space if doing mass exploration

[unborn nova]

ye probably

[sullen gull]

I mean, if programming a route sure, But for manually driving around, it's not that horrid.

[abstract heron]

is this correct 🙂

[unborn nova]

being invincible on vehicles is lowk clutch sometimes

[dense violet]

use this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[unborn nova]

im like 24 hours deep into satisfactory so i probably would have died alot without it

[abstract heron]

i did cobalt but i want someone to make sure i am right

[sullen gull]

But, can't get out. Most collectable things are surrounded by fauna anyhow.

[shrewd palm]

but you can also run over the small fauna

[dense violet]

satisfactory tools gives you the right numbers

[unborn nova]

can you use nobelisk on the creatures like the nuclear ram guy?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[sullen gull]

So does modeler as well. 😏

[unborn nova]

ye lol lowk just observing

[shrewd palm]

i think the nuclear hogs detonate nuke nobelisks tho so be careful with that

[sullen gull]

Havn't seen this one yet lol. Though, I have seen the gas stingers put out a huge cloud of gas...

[shrewd palm]

there have been a couple times where i was piling nobelisks onto one for the funny and then they all went off without me detonating them

[unborn nova]

ima try it

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/go-do-it-yes-no-go-for-it-gif-17183104

[abstract heron]

If i am going to do it i need to make space etc etc

[unborn nova]

idk if it works i dont think they stick

if i slam into him at like 100kph i can knock him out for a lil but hes a a lil tougher

[sullen gull]

They do stick. Not sure how to get the "accidental discharge" though 😏

[shrewd palm]

in all fairness it has stopped in the last little bit

it has for sure happened to me before but not since 1.1

[unborn nova]

im using normal nobelisk so i dont think itll blow up

[shrewd palm]

maybe since 1.0 but i think i only used a couple nukes during the time i was playing in 1.0

so im not really sure

[spice spindle]

Is the moduular frame assembly supposed to take 60 secs to make 2? 💀

[shrewd palm]

yes

those are the first complicated thing you run in to

[spice spindle]

Oh boy

Overclocking can help this though, right?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[acoustic plaza]

Can anyone guide me in the right direction as a complete noob. I find myself deconstructing and starting from scratch a lot, only to find out ive still done it wrong and have to try again lol. any good guides or yt I can watch?

[shrewd palm]

first of all, rebuilding is going to be more or less pointless unless you're in the endgame or build it perfectly the second time around

[reef basin]

I'd give you two hints:

• do not deconstruct, even a bad factory is still better than no factory
• learn the game on your own, don't look up videos, because then you're essentially copying what that person did instead of learning. Ask here if you have concrete issues, but don't just copy a let's play, that often leads to people not knowing what to do in lategame because they didn't learn basic mechanisms in early game

[shrewd palm]

when you're just starting out if something not working properly is a big problem then worry about it, but you shouldnt let things being imperfect hold you back

i think gamingwithdoc (or something i along those lines i dont really watch him) has some pretty good guides for individual things (like trains and trucks and stuff like that)

[acoustic plaza]

so am IO jsut going to have shit everywhjere going in different directions coming from all the ores? shouild I make multiple smelters coming out of a mine or jsut one and branch?

[shrewd palm]

kibitz is doing a 1.0 playthrough rn and you might watch that or some of his older runs for inspiration for builds and stuff (i certainly have)

[reef basin]

multiple factories are perfectly fine. And yes, I'd recommend doing math to see how many smelters (or other machines) can you feed.

[shrewd palm]

and if you're looking for like architecture ideas and stuff there are a LOT of people both here and on youtube that have built some beautiful factories/saves

[abstract heron]

I need to think how to add 1567 Refeinrys into my DD

[acoustic plaza]

Seeing all those crazy builds is generallyt not good for me. Im terrrible at building things and get discouraged because I know nothing I make will ever look good lol

[shrewd palm]

planners like the satisfactory tools website and satisfactory modeler on steam can both really help if you're having a heard time getting your head around some factories

[acoustic plaza]

oh nice whats the site?

[shrewd palm]

and you might already be aware but if you press "N" in game it'll open up a text box that where you can search up parts or do some rudimentary math

[shrewd palm]

just
satisfactory tools

[acoustic plaza]

im in trouble if we need math lol. I havent tried to do any math nor do I know why Id do math lol

[shrewd palm]

you're gonna have to start counting machines and how many items they need and how many they produce pretty early on i think

at the very least its a good habit to get into because some of the later things are gonna be almost impossible to just guess

[acoustic plaza]

im cooked lol

[spark sky]

Okay, I thought I saw a light switch of some sort. I was looking at the description, it is a little confusing. If I have a building with lights in it, and I put in a light control panel, connecting the lights to the yellow connector, does this just control the lights in that building (assuming no other connections to the same grid, external to the building)? It says that other control panels and swtiches interrupt the connection. Is that only if they cut off the supply to the light control panel?

[shrewd palm]

i think so

it'll control whatever you hook up to the B side like with a power switch i think

honestly the real benefit of light switches over power switches for controlling lights is that they let you change the colour of the lights i think

[spark sky]

Really?

Well then, I'm not sure I need the light control panel if I just want to turn them on/off.

[tight crypt]

Color, intensity, whether they're on all the time or only at night...

[spark sky]

Ah, that last part might be useful.

I wish we had some smaller lights, for things like catwalks and small tunnels.

[eager siren]

That sloppy alumina recipe is still being elusive. Night 2, 2 dozen hd's in at least. No bueno.

[shrewd palm]

you can use signs with global illumination/lumen turned on

but at least in my experience that seems to only work best with billboards

[spark sky]

Yeah, so far smaller signs, no matter how bright, don't seem to light up even the floor very much (and you have to be able to see the front of the sign or they don't seem to light up anything).

[acoustic plaza]

So is this in order to get 100% efficiency. Have to do the math of how many things are being produceds at what rate?

[shrewd palm]

yes

at the very least you're gonna have to keep track of numbers

this is a factory game after all

[acoustic plaza]

Ive never played a factory game lol

[spark sky]

Well, Ficsit wants you to be efficient, but you don't absolutely have to be. You can play the game however it's fun for you.

[acoustic plaza]

I just dont know how to be lol

[spark sky]

I've wasted a year rebuilding just the same little area and biofuel power plant, but I'm having fun, I finally finished Phase 1.

[shrewd palm]

you'll figure things out

[acoustic plaza]

Im defintely enjoying it. Im glad I asked because now I kknow I have to do a little more thinking and not just build randomly

[spark sky]

Well, and last year I spent all my time on Ficsmas stuff, once I could.

[eager siren]

There's math for sure, but you don't have to achieve 100% efficiency. Just make stuff and have fun really.

[spark sky]

I wonder if there will be anything new this Ficsmas.

[shrewd palm]

maybe

[spark sky]

I still have personal storage full of snowballs.

[shrewd palm]

the devs will probably still be really busy with the console release tho

i historically have not paid very much attention to ficsmas so maybe i will this year

[dense violet]

this does al lthe maths for youhttps://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[spark sky]

Oh, I had a blast picking up the Ficsmas gifts and building machines to make all the parts.

[dense violet]

you can also just wing it as you learn how to place logistics and stuff. tiers 1-9 are a kind of tutorial to lear nthe basics

[white dawn]

I believe they've said it's going to be unchanged apart from a new advent calendar image

[spark sky]

You can do some of the simpler math in the game. I think you hit N and you can do multiplaction, division, addition and subtraction.

[white dawn]

Aha, yeah. Nothing new apart from the advent calendar updating: https://www.youtube.com/embed/HOM0z0AXzD0?autoplay=1&start=93&end=114 (via the video in #announcements message )

[spark sky]

Ah, well, perhaps I'll just set up a whole area that I can leave sitting there for show, once things shut down. Just leave everything as though it's waiting to be turned on.

[small pebble]

How much game time in your current save lol

[spark sky]

Not sure, I have two saves, one Creative and one Exploration. I know what Steam says, let me look.

[spark sky]

I guess my normal game I have 413 hours, 51 minutes. I have almost 196 hours in my creative game. Steam says I've played the game a total of 950 hours, though.

[small pebble]

Wow lol

[spark sky]

I think I started over in the desert, then ended up deleting that save and went back to the one that had the Ficsmas stuff.

I spent quite a bit of time collecting lizard doggos, I have 24 of them.

Good grief those ceiling lights are huge!

[white dawn]

Yeah, you've really got to plan ahead for the actual in-game lights

[abstract heron]

Do i be that person and do the 1567 Refeinrys roughly i need

[eager siren]

Yes.

[shrewd palm]

why stop at 1576

why not add more just for the hell of it

[abstract heron]

i need to make = to dis

11400= 7600 concrete 10500= 26250 copper ingots 27000 iron ore 50140 iron ingots if my math is right

[eager siren]

That's a lot of math

[abstract heron]

and making sure i have it right

[abstract heron]

All DD ore plus 2 1200 nodes and 1 copper node at 600

[coral dock]

just got the game who wants to play 18+

[shy zenith]

why does my train slow down before a path signal if it is clear

[shrewd palm]

in case a train has already claimed that path i think

even if there arent any trains they have to slow down enough to be able to stop in case one comes along last minute

although they can stop instantly so idk

[tame root]

Pls help it says Couldnt write file to disk my memory is good steam cloud is good.....................................

[plain gate]

ur blocks r too short

[shy zenith]

thank you

[abstract heron]

i am just thinking how can i fit 1567 refeinrys into my base

[whole herald]

any1 wanna start a multiplayer world?

[eager siren]

20 levels of 80 each? Lol

[abstract heron]

but then the water and each material

[eager siren]

Get them blueprints out

[abstract heron]

Nah

the only BP i use is for world highways or stuff thats hard

[eager siren]

I mean making 1567 refieries is kinda justifiable.....

[abstract heron]

i also made the highs of the floors 6 highh instead of 8 high

[rough rock]

guys im struggling a bit on something, how much do i have to make of anything in general? Should i make separate modular factories for "each" item or not? im confused honestly

[dense violet]

really up to you, no right way of going about it.
for going up the tiers I'll use 1 normal or pure node per basic item and smoosh things together as needed

and as for design of factories, you'll figure out how you like it as you try things 🙂

[eager siren]

Finally got that sloppy alumina recipe. The struggle was real on that one, didn't want to setup my alum production without it. Probably went through 3 dozen hard drives.

[abstract heron]

Do i make the referinys on 1 floor or 2

and on iron floor and copper or all on 1 mega floor

[flint grail]

So, I just found out that bees will attack you when you're in photo mode, regardless of passive or not

[feral geyser]

Strange

[abstract heron]

Thinking how to make this WORK and having the refinerys in

[feral geyser]

Multi-floor refinery factories get very tall very quickly.

Embrace the sprawl

[abstract heron]

Yes and how much work i have to do atm to make it 100% work and plus the other stuff that needs to happen

also thinking is 6 to low or 8 is good

and ground floor or 2nd floor where i use to have it all

[feral geyser]

Walls between floors? I always do 10 for refineries. The extra ceiling room can be logistics for the floor above.

[abstract heron]

actually i am going to probbaly have floor 2 as my starting area

[abstract heron]

atm is like bringing ore and such in ground floor and making it orginzed

[abstract heron]

and if i do this means i have to redo everything on my floors

[leaden turret]

build upside down pyramid, best of both worlds

[abstract heron]

i am just debating i am thinking starting on floor 2 of the base and i just need to think how big i need to make each floor etc etc

[leaden turret]

open back ziggurat = only need to worry about height of floor and available space to expand

[abstract heron]

i have them 6 high atm marv

the smoke thingy on the Refinerys clip

[leaden turret]

reminder of the time I had them 14+ high 😛

[abstract heron]

i am debating ripping out all my floors and adding them to 6 high to make them nice or just keeping it

[leaden turret]

also reminder of the time I was putting signs on then realised I had one too many floors so had to SCIM one of the middle floors out several times, not realising that if one selects where one is standing, one is moved along with the factory

[abstract heron]

i am thinking doing it ALL by hand

removing/adding

[abstract heron]

Will my save go to freak out if i add 1567 or 1568 refinerys at 100%

[leaden turret]

best ask blandrew 😛

[abstract heron]

i am debating on doing it i just don't want my game to freakout and LAG

[hard ivy]

Then overclock them

But also, it's probably gonna be fine as long as you place them all on one platform or split across multiple different spots

[abstract heron]

ya i just need to spend a few weeks building it then a other belting/piping/testing before i do anything More and probbaly cover the whole desert

[hard ivy]

Only stacking them compactly is likely to cause issues

[abstract heron]

i am thinking making 1 giant floor for each

and each row will have the stuff for 1200

[dense violet]

if you don't want that then don't make 50,000 ingots with no use

[shrewd hatch]

fearing lag is for losers

[abstract heron]

i will later

[abstract heron]

i think i have use for 50,000 ingots

[dim dock]

does the industrial walkway provide any unique features (compared to the catwalks)? or is it just mainly cosmetic?

[leaden turret]

• looks different
• spelled different

[dim dock]

that kind of a bummer.... i thought it would give like double speed to the factory cart or something

[silk rose]

Just got two factory copies money equivalent with new cs2 items update making all covert items +600% price overnight

So i have factories for some of my friends

[abstract heron]

How much stuff can I make with things I want to make

[leaden turret]

0 < stuff < ♾️

[abstract heron]

Like if I did hmf or something can I make a ton

[leaden turret]

if you want something that changes the speed of the factory cart, try a jump pad

[dim dock]

always thought that darker colored column on the industrial walkways was a rail for the factory cart ;-;

[abstract heron]

I don’t deco I say what ever works best to your taste

[dim dock]

that would... 'kick' me out of my comfort zone

[abstract heron]

Ria

[leaden turret]

factory cart macro golf

[abstract heron]

Try new things don’t play comfort mode

[leaden turret]

except gorgonzola.

don't try gorgonzola.

or grave of the fireflies.

or Surströmming

[dim dock]

now i'm curious.

[leaden turret]

• stinky cheese
• most depressing ghibli film ever
• stinky fish

[dim dock]

too late... my mind made up its mind. me, my mind, and my mind's mind are now super curious

[abstract heron]

Tmr is starting phase on 1567 refinery’s

Or today

[leaden turret]

to get it slightly back on-topic, css devs eat pizza with banana on

[thorny glen]

um

if you flip an explorer it just goes up?

[manic birch]

Hello, do you guys know if a 1.2 is planned in the future ?

[shy zenith]

does pipe throughput fall off over distance even if level?

[true mulch]

Shouldn't

[true mulch]

Nothing announced at the moment, but that doesn't mean it's not happening

[shy zenith]

I filled up my manifold full, and my crude oil drained when I should have 600, for some reason the pipe is giving like 500

[true mulch]

!wikisearch pipeline+manifold

Hnnghg the bot still doesn't work

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Pipeline_manifold

[shy zenith]

oh thats right I need a loop back don't i

[true mulch]

You have to loop the pipe when using a manifold

[shy zenith]

now they are all filling, thank you

[hard ivy]

You don't have to. I never do and everything still works fine

[leaden turret]

@manic birch nothing specific announced, but it is happening

[hard ivy]

Yeah, they did say that 1.2 is happening, but nothing beyond that

[manic birch]

if it's happening then it's still a great news

[leaden turret]

things teased / trolled / not confirmed:

• wall pieces
• no quarter foundations / half walls
• pipe changes
• difficulty settings

I'm taking the last two teases from @void gorge to mean there'll be an AGS / gameplay setting for "make fluid go sploosh instead of 🔨"

[manic birch]

wdym by fluid go sploosh instead of 🔨 ?

[hard ivy]

They also said they want to improve trains. No clue how soon that's gonna happen tho

[leaden turret]

October 21st, 2025 Livestream
Q&A: Could we see future changes to Fluid dynamics in Pipes?
https://youtu.be/HZpDqYySOPM

If you are at all interested in transporting fluids, do stay tuned for this week's video

[leaden turret]

cc @green fiber in case of pipe manual update needed on friday

[void gorge]

If my talks about wall pieces came off as teases then I'm starting to fail miserably at my job

[manic birch]

MK.3 pipes would be awesome

[leaden turret]

October 14th, 2025 Livestream
Q&A: We have more weapons than Wall materials, will we ever get more Wall materials?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frd-WNHb67c

all I can say now is there is a time and place for everything

would that time and place be 1.2/1.3? 😛

[worldly pelican]

!wikisearch pipeline+manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=pipeline+manifold

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch arachnophobia+mode

[worldly pelican]

Hm, I have an idea

Can a user without any roles try the command?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch balancer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=balancer

[worldly pelican]

Thanks!

@leaden turret can you try again?

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch arachnophobia+mode

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=arachnophobia+mode

[worldly pelican]

Yay

[leaden turret]

🎆

[reef basin]

ah, it's obvious, pioneers shouldn't need wiki command, they should know things from memory

[worldly pelican]

Blame me to not beeing able to recognize numbers 😛

[reef basin]

a classic problem 🙂

[true mulch]

You know what you're doing

That's not applicable advice

[dim dock]

did the devs mention anything about revisiting the idea of tree decorations?

[feral geyser]

Probably never 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

Someone else can correct me but from what I heard they are against a real tree model (because we are here to exploit, not make pretty things). However they thought "a weird fake tree to show corpo feeling" was an interesting idea.

Alas, they didn't confirm anything.

I am sure real tree deco not coming tho.

[dim dock]

yeah i'm perfectly fine with fake trees. but the issue is the map doesn't recover.. which also makes wood/leaves a finite resource... (i heard there was something about a map elements overflow mechanic which, when you left an area or did major changes to other areas, the foliage would just reset, but idk how true it is)

[limpid cairn]

So real but the devs refuse to add them😔

I know they can’t but

Pls🫠

[dim dock]

gameplaywise this kinda stops me from being able to use trucks freely

[mortal ginkgo]

biofuel is not a finite resource as you can turn animal proteins intol large amount of biomass

I immediately stopped tree leave farming after getting rebar gun

[manic birch]

they can't ? why

[dim dock]

yeah i do the same.. but the visuals also kinda become eh if the trees die from using a truck too much in a zone

[limpid cairn]

Engine doesn’t let them too or something

[dim dock]

greenery in general. not trees alone

[limpid cairn]

Someone explained it some time ago

[manic birch]

and why not Mk.2.5 then 😂

[mortal ginkgo]

This.. makes sense no?

[dim dock]

yeah but it would also make sense if from not using that place anymore, the foliage returns.. that mechanic isn't there in the game.

[mortal ginkgo]

I am unable to understand the problem. Trucks etc can be used in natural roads as well

[mortal ginkgo]

you know how little this matters in a game where we are here to exploit for an alien infested corpa?

also it can take months for things to regrow...

[dim dock]

obviously, but gameplaywise it's about freedom as well, so i'm not asking to turn this into a farming simulator, but being able to put trees around for visual appeal, means the pioneer will feel more motivated to work yada yada...

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, it seems you lost the plot. Literally. You are thinking too human. 😛

Anyway, there are mods that you can use to add trees around etc if it is bothering you too much.

[dim dock]

I like to adjust the plot to the way i want to experience it.

And yes, i know there are mods...

but vanilla option is always preferable

[limpid cairn]

Number needs to be an integer not a float

[mortal ginkgo]

Well, be prepared for your "plot" to contradict with games own plot and live with it I guess.

[dim dock]

i'm exploring options... i know games will always stick to their visions..

but if a feature can be justified within that vision, why not

there's always a narrative

[spark sky]

Hm. Wall mounted floodlights need to be adjustable up/down rotation after you connect them to power. This is very fiddly getting them to point where you want them to before you can see what area they light up.

I keep having to place them, light them, delete them, try again.

[dim dock]

yeah i stopped using floodlights entirely...

ceiling lights are somewhat ok...

[spark sky]

Yeah, but they need some ceiling lights 1/4 the size for some areas.

[dim dock]

if you're using RT, maybe use a display?

[spark sky]

RT?

[dim dock]

floodlights are kinda expensive on performance too afaik.

[dim dock]

Ray Tracing / Global Illumination

[spark sky]

I have Lumen turned on, but, not sure this graphics chip supports RT.

[dim dock]

Lumen is basically the UE software implementation of RT afaik

[spark sky]

BTW, I see ads for something called Lumen on YouTube, that's not the same thing, is it?

[dim dock]

Lumen is Unreal Engine's implementation of ray tracing. (not sure if RT hardware is used by default)

[spark sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6lwUF0skE&pp=ygUFTHVtZW4%3D

Some sort of breathalizer that tells what your metabolism is doing?

[dim dock]

not that lumen 😑

[spark sky]

That's what got me confused when people were talking about Lumen.

[dim dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc1PPYl2uxA

[spark sky]

Anyway, in the game, Lumen isn't mentioned, I had to look up what you had to do to turn it on, because I wanted signs to light smaller areas in my power plant. I don't think the smaller signs do a very good job of that, though, and they don't seem to be lit unless you're looking at the front of them (if you're behind them, there doesn't seem to be any light output).

[dense violet]

Use the save editor to re flora

[spark sky]

Is this an official app from Coffee Stain?

[spark sky]

I think I came up with a rather small but useful blueprint. I made a 1-block high piece of painted beam with a dual power outlet that's vertical (getting it centered, vertically, was a bit of a trick). Place it where a floor should be, delete the painted beam and you have a way of connecting power between floors without having to use wiring through the outside walls. Then just place your floors.

Deleting the beam can be a bit fidly, but it can be done (or you can just leave it in the floor).

[reef basin]

no

[spark sky]

That's too bad, it would have been nice if it were official.

[granite ether]

what does saturate mean

[reef basin]

in what context?

[granite ether]

"my first proper big-ish factory producing auto-wire from raw copper and steel pipes. its gonna take a while to saturate lol"

in #screenshots

[vivid hearth]

hi guys. starting at rockey desert or grassland ?

[reef basin]

fill belts

[granite ether]

???

[manic birch]

Conveyors full of items

[granite ether]

like it takes a long time to make a single portion of auto wires?

[reef basin]

no, just to fill belts for manifolds to work at 100%

[granite ether]

oh

k, thanks

[scenic mirage]

would yall run a train for 500m? i only have mk5 conveyors also

1 mk3 miner on normal sam node
2 mk3 miner on pure quartz node
1 mk3 miner on pure iron node
1 mk3 miner on normal limestone node
3 mk3 miner on normal coal node
1 mk3 miner on normal copper node

[wary magnet]

nah, make a small bus

anyone else having issues with rotating conveyer belts and pipes using scroll wheel?

[scenic mirage]

what kind of issues

[wary magnet]

they don't rotate

[scenic mirage]

i do that rn and tbh i could make it look better

[hard ivy]

These items would be 6 trains for me. At least. At 500 m, I wouldn't bother

[reef basin]

a bus? bus is pretty bad in SF, I wouldn't recommend

also I thought we're talking about transporting things?

[wary magnet]

better then using a long train for 500m

[reef basin]

a "bus" isn't a transportation method though? are you maybe talking about stacked belts or belt highway?

[weak shoal]

Yo should i make a computer factory?

[reef basin]

do you need computers? then yes

[weak shoal]

idk if I need them for future machines

[wary magnet]

yeah a belt highway
of maybe experiment with tractors

[reef basin]

build what you need now, don't try to future-proof

[weak shoal]

ok

[reef basin]

yeah, belt highway isn't a bus 🙂 that's why I got confused

[spark sky]

Okay, I just uploaded screenshots of the fuel production part of my latest biomass power plant. Now I have to buld the actual power plant blueprint, which will sit on top of this. #screenshots message (Yes, I'm obsessed with biomass power plants in towers.)

[wary magnet]

mb i got the wording wrong😅

[unkempt blade]

you need a bus lane if you build a belt highway so it can avoid other traffic and stay on schedule

[unkempt blade]

I like all the different colors and signs everywhere

[spark sky]

Thanks, the green will be the color of the biomass burners and the logistics going to them.

Blue is for power storage and red is for fuel production.

I didn't decide a color for the lighting, as there seems to be little that can be colored on the lights.

[coarse path]

can i send pics in this server

i need help with smthg

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I like factories using a lot of different colors like that. People build a lot of cool stuff but I just have more trouble getting into the builds that are like pure concrete or too much like gaming pc aesthetic 😆

[spark sky]

Not in this chat, send them in #screenshots and link them here.

[coarse path]

ill just say it without ss

cuz like

phase 2 of my space thingy is taking too long

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533 , you can get help there

[spark sky]

I wish we could color more of the concrete pieces, I like the textures but it would be nice to paint them.

[reef basin]

#screenshots isn't for getting help

[coarse path]

ive been crafting and staring at my factory for 12 hours now and its so boring

i lowk wanna speed up the process

[spark sky]

Ah, sorry.

[hard ivy]

Build faster factories

[coarse path]

i just build my new factory

and ims till new to the game

[reef basin]

basically it's always "build more if you want more"

[coarse path]

4 days ago i bought it and alr have 40 hours-

[coarse path]

thats gonna be hell for me tho cuz idk how to build good factories

[unkempt blade]

you're going to be building a lot of factories, it's the main game loop

[coarse path]

yeah but idk how to build others

[reef basin]

see, I didn't say "build more good" 🙂 I said "build more"

bad factory is still a factory

[coarse path]

i only know how to make the steel and copper and the black steel thingy

[coarse path]

automation for that

[reef basin]

time to learn 🙂 but the build loop is basically the same for any factories

[coarse path]

maybe someone could join me for 20 minutes?

[reef basin]

no, it's better if you learn on your own 😉

you're gonna need it later

[unkempt blade]

If you need a factory break have you done much exploration yet? You could go run around the map and collect stuff while your existing factory runs for a while

[coarse path]

bro after 2 hours of playing i only got 150 smart plates and 100 of the other thing for phase 2

ill send it in screnshots

[rustic pier]

Moooore production buildings! Lol insert kylo ren meme

[reef basin]

the game isn't supposed to be beaten in 5 hours. Slow progress is also a progress, and the game doesn't play fast. Usually people need hundreds of hours to unlock everything

[coarse path]

check screenshots channel

[reef basin]

what I said still applies

[coarse path]

yeah but i alr spend like 5 hours on ginding phase 2 of the space station

and im on 10% done with all 3 of the itms.

[reef basin]

sounds like you're on your way then

[sterile blade]

That's.... Normal? 😅

[spark sky]

There are a lot of other things to do to help you get faster: find lizard doggos and tame them, bring them home and gather stuff from them. Some of the stuff can be used to get advanced research in the MAM. Explore and find hard drives for better recipes (more research in the MAM). Gather power slugs, Somersloops and Mercer Spheres, these can help in various ways (double output, speed up machines, etc.) at the cost of more power needed. Once the Awesome Sink and Awesom Shop are unlocked, dump excess stuff in the Awesome Sink and get tickets to buy new recipes for buildables in the Awesome Shop (mostly quality of life stuff).

[reef basin]

if you want faster progress, build more machines

[hard ivy]

If it's slow, build more to make things faster

[coarse path]

i got a few slugs

[coarse path]

i just completed my factory tho😔

[rustic pier]

Also id add the output to a container so it doesn’t back up

[coarse path]

?

[unkempt blade]

yeah all the ways to end game is basically

1. automate more item production if you have extra power
2. add more power generators/power production if you're running low on extra power
3. explore the map when you need a break

[spark sky]

Once you do the research, you can turn them into power shards which can speed up production.

[reef basin]

the whole game is about constantly building more to feed the ever-growing needs

[coarse path]

i am planning to build the best coal generator

wait ill make ss

[reef basin]

see how better it would be if you opened a #1038092680493801533 thread like I said initially? 🙂 you wouldn't need to put screenshots in a different channel and could keep it all in a single place 😉

[coarse path]

send it

[coarse path]

oh i didnt notice that

in 30 minutes i got 50 more smart plates😔

[reef basin]

that's decent

[coarse path]

also chat i completed the hypertubes quest but didnt press the button yet

when should tubes be usefull

[reef basin]

when you need to travel to a place often 🙂

[coarse path]

because right now im focusing on making my base beatifull

[coarse path]

well i cant travel cuz i keep dying or the map doesnt expand

[spark sky]

@coarse path Things don't have to be fast, though, I made most stuff by hand up until now (next step is Phase 2). Just remember that you only have to tap the spacebar at the crafting bench, then you can go watch videos while that part is being made. Or you can automate the part with 20 machines in parallel.

[reef basin]

map is fixed, it indeed doesn't expand

[reef basin]

I would very much not recommend handcrafting. The whole game is about automation

time spent handcrafting is time not spent automating 🙂

[coarse path]

i am doing that rn, factory making stuff but the rest i gotta go afk in the bench, im just upset that its taking years that i cant focus on fun stuff instead of waiting

[reef basin]

yeah, don't do that. If you need something, automate it

[coarse path]

gonna be too hard for me

[reef basin]

the game isn't called handcrafting simulator 😉

[spark sky]

Yes, but, we can play the way we want, right? Someone did try to do a playthrough doing everything by hand, and where he couldn't, he hand fed and hand emptied the machines.

[coarse path]

im too bad for a good factory

[unkempt blade]

except for factory carts which the creators in their infinite wisdom only allow to be handcrafted so that we can feel greater accomplishment when our flock of logistical vehicles is driving around

[reef basin]

if you find basic automation too hard, maybe the game isn't for you?

[coarse path]

i love satisfactory and im made for it lol

[reef basin]

nobody said the factory needs to be good

[coarse path]

im talkign about the hard automation

[unkempt blade]

you get better by playing the game 😄

[coarse path]

and i just dont want to build another factory because i wanna make my base look good first

[reef basin]

sure, you can play however you want. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't give recommendations that handcrafting is pretty bad approach

[coarse path]

alr have 40 hours in 4 days

[reef basin]

I'd focus on making the factory work first

you can make it nice later, when you learn how to build it so that it makes things for you 🙂

[coarse path]

true

[unkempt blade]

as you unlock more stuff (Hub research, MAM, Awesome shop) it makes it a lot easier to make a good looking factory

[coarse path]

i alr have all that

look at screenshots

[spark sky]

@coarse path At any rate, experiment with stuff. Figure out what works, and along the way you might figure out something that looks nice, too.

[coarse path]

i know how the game works but the factory for the stuff i send in screnshots would just be too anoying

[spark sky]

How so?

[reef basin]

again, that's part of the game loop - if you find things too hard or too annoying, it may not be the game for you, because it only gets "harder" over time

[coarse path]

i wanna makee my base look good first-

[coarse path]

its easy to make it but i just wanna make fun stuff first

[unkempt blade]

what doesn't look good about the current one other than it's kind of half finished right now?

[spark sky]

You've been looking at the wrong screenshots/videos, That stuff that looks good takes months to perfect.

[reef basin]

then you're shooting yourself in a foot so to say

you're complaining how hard it is to make factory look nice, but ignore the suggestion to make it functional first 🙂 you have to decide if you want to do it the hard way yourself 🙂

[coarse path]

i got a good factory, just the phase 2 space station is halfly hand crafted rn

[unkempt blade]

I mean it sounds like you know how you want to play the game. Did you actually need help with anything?

[coarse path]

its functinal and fast, just dont wanna build something huge jsut to destroy it after i got my stuff

[reef basin]

you don't ever need to destroy things

and I wouldn't recommend it anyway

[coarse path]

i need 1000 smart plates then i just abonden my factory?

[reef basin]

you can just let it produce and sink the products

[unkempt blade]

you leave it running, you'll need more smart plates later 😄

[coarse path]

oh-

[reef basin]

even if you didn't need them later, it's still sink points

[coarse path]

guess ill start building that right now?

[spark sky]

I guess I'd recommend filling some industrial storage with them, then sinking the overflow.

[coarse path]

think im gonna make the best coal generator ever

before i start making new stuff that cost alot more power

[spark sky]

That's a big goal, there are a lot of designs out there.

[rustic pier]

ugh where are the screenshots! i can never find the folder

[reef basin]

#faq

[spark sky]

Do you mean on your computer?

[rustic pier]

yeah

[reef basin]

#faq ...

[mossy moon]

i pined it to quickaccess

i think thats the whole point of that feature which i used only for that

[visual harness]

Question, do you guys think fluid cars will ever get buffed, considering that you can carry a good amount more if you just package it.
Or is that by design to make you more likely to use packagers? Just seems a bit annoying that the dedicated carts for fluids is just a worse option to use.

[reef basin]

they are fine right now, since you need to carry empty canisters back, they are basically equal

[mossy moon]

is it bad to keep it pined to quick access and risks smth breaking, idk shit abt these things

[rustic pier]

Got it.. keep forgeting its under my profile 😄

[spark sky]

You don't need the folder if you take the screenshot and just paste it into #screenshots right away. You can do that with several screenshots, then type the description and send it.

[unkempt blade]

they're actually pretty decent if the train is long enough or you're using multiple trains

[visual harness]

I suppose, however I still think it would be better if they could carry a comparable amount

[reef basin]

they basically do

they carry half, but if you package you need double the cars

[visual harness]

ok, that's fair.
I just need to actually set up a network to make that work lol

[reef basin]

(obviously talking about liquids, not gasses)