satisfactory

[shadow crown]

does anybody know how many meters does one entrance launch you with a hypertube cannon

[nocturne orbit]

is it usable as meme template?

[nocturne orbit]

kinda depends on angle

[unkempt blade]

it would be pretty easy to check just building one and counting how many foundations it moves you

[cunning siren]

❤️ the "branch hypertube loop", pretty easy to make, compact AND 20 mw to get you as fast as any hypertube can take you there 🤷. In youtube, the "how to make clip" is titled "hypertube cannon final design in satisfactory 1.1"

[pale dew]

i just make long tubes lol

[bronze atlas]

i did something wrong when i made my loop, i got stuck in it and no matter how many times i pressed E it wouldnt launch me out of the loop.

[pale dew]

like 10 entrances and im launching myself across the map

[bronze atlas]

from what ive read 17 entrances will get you across the map, and any more will shoot you hard enough to fly OFF the map. 1 entrance will just get you, i think 4-8M from the end of the pipe depending on height from the ground and angle

[cosmic pawn]

i am now in phase 2

[dusky lance]

Hi!

[cunning siren]

If you have the power to spare and you don't want to hit E or wait a few seconds to loop then, why not 🤷

[pale dew]

lowkey i just didnt know you could do that

[pale dew]

congrats

[bronze atlas]

hypertube accellerators really change the game for getting around the map. Even if you just make a really fast hypertube network instead of cannons, i think the only thing faster (as long as you use accelerators in the network) is the end game teleporters.

[cunning siren]

Nice thing about the low power is you can put a single biofuel gen in the blueprint and boom... now you can hypertube from "Off Grid" locations... not so easy with a long one

[pale dew]

i mean

im more of a "lets runn the powerlines thru half the map cuz why tf not"

[bronze atlas]

i think the reason why people think about power with these is i believe each entrance takes 10mw if i recall correctly, so a string of 16 is 160mw that is just constantly draining if you leave it connected. If you design a self contained powered blueprint for a cannon then it wont affect your overall network to just leave it be

[gritty narwhal]

i just fuckin spend 3 hours fixing a single rail system to making a part of it where the most concentraded junctions are - double rail, finally it works, is all of satisfactory going to be like that, is that true satisfaction or is it just torture and misery for getting little satisfaction at the end that it works

[bronze atlas]

another way i have heard of but not tried yet is to have a power switch and a battery in the blueprint, switch it on for a few seconds for the battery to get some juice, then shut it off before you launch yourself and the batter will keep the cannon powered for a little bit so you can launch

then you can have it connected to your network without constant drain

[shy fog]

I may have made a boo boo... Introduced hyciz to LGIO videos

[bronze atlas]

best i can say is yes there will occasionally be stuff like that that happens, especially if you are changing the design of something.

Blueprints are your friend, if you can create a design you like and make sure the blueprints work, then you will be better off in the end for things working the first time you put them down

[manic panther]

i need help dealing with trains they are giving me a headache

[gritty narwhal]

i have over 3k hours on factorio

problem with satisfactory is

[bronze atlas]

i think im at 2.4k in factorio

[bronze atlas]

what is the problem?

[gritty narwhal]

i just am mindblown how much of micro adjusting do these shitty rails want, i made a bp just for the straight rails, the rails cannot be made modular in this game in my opinion

especially the entrances and exits of junctions

the path signals aint exactly the same as the chain signal in factorio

[manic panther]

i have two trains that i want going through the same track without colliding and i used block signals but it doesnt matter how i arrange it, they are yellow

[bronze atlas]

depends how you design them. Mine are completely modular.

[cunning siren]

"Fun" is an illusive metric and can come in many forms, maybe the more important question is: Are you enjoying yourself doing what you are doing now? AND if the answer is no, then stop

[bronze atlas]

this for sure bothers me yeah, but i think ive gotten used to it

[gritty narwhal]

i got so glitched trying to understand it, thats why u always get high before u start playing satisfactory, that way it is easy to continue suffering

[gritty narwhal]

fun is something many experience, not many understand why or for what. with satisfactoy you have to ask yourself does the factory need to grow

[bronze atlas]

i think the signals have to be exactly side by side facing in either direction to make a track 2 way

[gritty narwhal]

so the answer obviously is yes

[gritty narwhal]

the way i did it was just to trial and error, thats the key, until u fully understand the signals and rails you are fucked

fuckin game, made over 40 hours on it in the past 3 days, factorio phase in a different universe

[halcyon kite]

Hold on wait, is Diluted Fuel actually a T7 Hard Drive recipe now? I wasn't getting it and thought my luck was really bad, so I checked the wiki, GG Version, and it says that the alternate is from T7 Control Systems now? I thought it was T5 with Turbofuel?

[bronze atlas]

i think you get packaged diluted fuel a lot earlier than diluted fuel

[cunning siren]

My solution to the train issues is, avoid using trains 😆 I understand this may not work for everybodys play style 🤷

[unkempt blade]

through the same track as in 2 track crossing each other?

[gritty narwhal]

since im playing it for the 3rd time

and thinking im gonna finish it this time

[bronze atlas]

the big difference seems to be that you need path signals only on the entrances to a junction, no matter how much the rails cross within the junction, and then block signals on all the exits

[gritty narwhal]

i want to use every part of transportation in my factory, currently i have to research the drones

[bronze atlas]

for the most part signals WITHIN the junction seem to be unnecessary

[manic panther]

two trains going through one and then diviving

[gritty narwhal]

and thats gonna make my life easier, but i spent so much time on the trains that i cant give up on them

[halcyon kite]

Yeah but the unlock for Diluted Fuel got moved to T7 now. I wanted to setup my Turbofuel Factory by doubling Heavy Oil into Fuel through the alternate, but it's so much later now. Sad...

[gritty narwhal]

i read that in the wiki

path in block out

[viscid bobcat]

im tryna get a manifold and underclock all the smelters to take up 40 caterium ore, but I can only make it 40.05, will it make a noticeable detriment to my production?

[halcyon kite]

Oh, it got moved to the Blender... That explains it.

[gritty narwhal]

that still made me bug out a bit, but after some real trial and error and fixing all of my signals i made it work and its gonna work till the end of the save i hope

[bronze atlas]

over long term yeah, but i don't think you will notice it. Might just want to build in a sink as an overflow protection

[cunning siren]

They seem like a lot of work to "get going", I use a train in the crystal cavern and thats about it 🤷

[unkempt blade]

Sounds like you might just need a block signal before the fork (not ON the fork) and then 2 block signals one for each branch after the fork? If I'm not understanding you might want to add a post in #1038092680493801533 and include a screenshot or two and I bet someone can help you

[halcyon kite]

No wait, you're right. Diluted Packaged should be T5, I'm just having bad luck.

[bronze atlas]

yeah the packaged version is defintely there, im using it in my factory

[halcyon kite]

My brain is thinking like six factories ahead of where I'm at in this playthrough and I don't know why.

[gritty narwhal]

i dont even know what tf is that, suppose its a biome, havent done much exploring, im more of a efficiency guy, make everything work and when u wait for things to get done, do something else in the meantime

[bronze atlas]

probably because it isnt your first playthrough so you know what to expect

[halcyon kite]

I'm actually going to finish Stage 5 this time and then spend forever building this map into a pretty base. ...Maybe.

[cunning siren]

Oh ok, it sounded like you have had a few playthroughs and none that reached the end of the objectives 🤔

I guessed you explored some

[unkempt blade]

yeah but they look so cool zooming around 😆

[gritty narwhal]

the beuty abt the first playthtough is the same as the beuty when you start the second one with more knowledge and more correct ways to plan and build ahead

[halcyon kite]

Unless they release another massive update that changes the game and causes me to start over because I can't be bothered to retrofit mega factories.

[cunning siren]

Yea, they do have a sort of charm to them especally in the dark

[gritty narwhal]

i had 2 but none of them reached trains

i just didnt want to bother cuz i know how much time it was going to cost me learning new trains, considering the time it did in factorio

[bronze atlas]

i regularly spend time just running around the map with my HD scanner open. I actually got to no recipes available at one point before i got into the last phase.

[gritty narwhal]

so i completed phase 2 and stopped playing after both of the playthroughs

this one is my 3rd and im pretty proud of my factory, been using calculator and everything

[unkempt blade]

They're really not that complicated. Just create a godmode save and screw around with them a little if you want to learn faster

[halcyon kite]

Trains in Satisfactory are really fun once you learn their setup. They make having mega factories around the map so useful.

[zenith fractal]

the factory must grow

[bronze atlas]

in factorio i almost never play without one of the train scheduling mods. i forget what its called though.

[gritty narwhal]

trains goin on different depots and shit

[zenith fractal]

train networks are so cool

style points

[gritty narwhal]

they arent ye, now that i finally understand them

[gritty narwhal]

always

[halcyon kite]

Plus you don't have to setup power highways for the giant power poles, since they are a power highway. lol

[gritty narwhal]

i just got the hoverboard and started bothering more with the train network, before i fixed it now was just 1 monorail and 4 trains goin somehow not colliding with eachother

[bronze atlas]

i recently saw a video with some relatively easy ways to get access below ground level, i think i may end up building a subway system.

[unkempt blade]

just don't mod certain tracks if you don't have a second way power gets to some place, that way lies chaos 😆

[halcyon kite]

I haven't blown up a factory yet, so I'm doing okay. Although I do cheese every Mega Factory by setting up massive battery banks in their basements, in case I ever do break a line somewhere.

[bronze atlas]

One thing i really wish the base game had is a small power attachment for the rails to create power connections outside of the train stations

[manic panther]

done

[unkempt blade]

yeah I play a MP save mostly so I do a lot more power storage than I strictly need to friend-proof the power grid 😆

[pale dew]

yk what i dont think the roundabout launchers are for me

[halcyon kite]

Hypertube Launchers? But they're so fun.

[bronze atlas]

try a regular cannon launcher instead of a loop

[pale dew]

I mean the circle ones

[pale dew]

Regulars are a blast

[bronze atlas]

literally

[pale dew]

but its hard to know when to let go in a loop

[halcyon kite]

I've never played Satisfactory on a server before, I think I'd be sad if I wasn't there to see progression, ya know?

[pale dew]

i just put a few entrances and pray it works

even tho theyr much more power consuming i think they are better

i might use the loop ones for much further tho

whats the limit of acceleration in entrances?

[bronze atlas]

17 before you go so fast you shoot off the map is what ive read, but i havent actually tried it yet

[shy fog]

cannon?? see josh

[halcyon kite]

I've gone through 17 HDs so far today just looking for Diluted Packaged Fuel... I think I'm going to have to save scum my final two because I just don't want to go find more. lol

[bronze atlas]

have you done the rescan thing on them all too?

[shy fog]

if the recipes are not ones you want, reroll, and if they still aren't DO NOT SELECT EITHER as it takes it off the rolls

[bronze atlas]

yeah that can help, storing unwanted recipes to remove from the random pool

[unkempt blade]

We did a couple EA saves too so I've seen stuff happen at some point. I like seeing how other people build stuff though even though some of them are a little uhh... creative

[gritty narwhal]

hey since u seem more knowledgable than me in satsifactory, any suggestions of factories i should for phase 4, like factory for plates, rods and so on

[halcyon kite]

Yeah, I've got 23 rerolled already in my library. It's like staring at a wall of junk.

[bronze atlas]

im still on my first playthrough i just watch a lot of videos detailing how stuff works. If you're going to setup trains to supply sattelite factories i would say just start with the base resources (so all the ingots, coal, sulphur, quartz etc) and then if you get to the point where you don't want to build an intermediate part factory on site, start building supply factories for those (like computers or hi speed connectors etc)

[gritty narwhal]

so i set ingot factories instead of rods and plate factories

or is it just prefferrence

[bronze atlas]

thats what im doing yeah

no reason not to build what you said though if you think it will be useful for you

[gritty narwhal]

hm aight, i was thinking to save more space for the actual factory doing phase 4 to build independent factory for rods plates and screws, after that one more factory for wires and cables

[bronze atlas]

screws are better to build on site because you need so many .

[gritty narwhal]

cuz of throughput?

[bronze atlas]

yeah

[gritty narwhal]

aight, so ill do that then, rods and plates, copper stuff and the other stuff too

and all of that comes into trains or wahtever and the actual factory

its gonna take a bit of time hahaha

[bronze atlas]

generally if you bring a train load of steel to a place for steel screws vs a train load of screws to the same place, you will get an order of magnitude more screws from the train load of steel for example

depending on the recipe you use

[unkempt blade]

the standard logic for that is if something is lower quantity (for belts) or fewer stacks (for vehicles) after you manufacture something with it then it's easier to transport the manufactured item instead of the ingredient

and vice versa for stuff like screws or wires that can make it harder to transport

[halcyon kite]

Or just be weird like me and get alternate recipes for everything so you can never build screws outside of a single setup in your starter base that is putting them into the DD for building things. lol

[unkempt blade]

it's fun to summon the screw haters by saying something like "I think cast screws is a really great recipe"

[halcyon kite]

I forgot Xclipse did a video on the Diluted Packaged Fuel to Turbofuel layout. Yes! I don't have to think for my blueprints.

[bronze atlas]

my friend is a spaghetti builder, and introduced me to satisfactory. our starter base is such an unorganized pile of conveyors but it all works so i cant really fault it.

[halcyon kite]

I mean, Cast Screws is a great recipe for the early game. Steel screws is great if you have lots of spare Steel and don't mind not using alts. I just hate Screws because you need so many. lol

[unkempt blade]

yeah they want you to build differently than one huge manifold for all the screws

[halcyon kite]

Plus there are like two Steel Screw alts, aren't there? One for Ingots and one for Beams?

[bronze atlas]

i only know of the steel one that makes like 260 screws output, if theres another i havent seen it yet

[wintry wharf]

is there a command to speed the game up?
i need some belts to backfill a bit for a thumbnail

[halcyon kite]

Oh, no, just the Beams one. I don't know why I thought there was one for ingots.

[cunning siren]

Screws can be avoided mostly with alts, that is "how I roll" mostly with Stitched Iron Plate and Heavy Encased Frame. I DO use copper rotors though and have found a solution to the manifold issues with a Cast Screws combo build that looks like this: #screenshots message

[halcyon kite]

Game is trolling me right now... I've reloaded this save about twenty times but it keeps giving me the same five recipes. Now give me my Packaged Fuel!

[spare ice]

I just posted a pic on screenshots guys, it says station is unreachable and its a single track? Any ideas what im doing wrong ?

[halcyon kite]

Mmm... Sphagets.

[cunning siren]

With blueprints it's a one time hassle then ez-mode afterwards

[flat zinc]

@spare ice one of your stations are likely backwards

i had the same problem

[wary perch]

I wanna order a train full of different liquids for my coffee cup

[unkempt blade]

I like how that looks with the vertical splitters and stuff now. Has good lines

[gritty narwhal]

logistic train networks, the best mod in factorio

[cunning siren]

OH yea this would not be a thing without those

[gritty narwhal]

takes some time to learn, but its worth it

[halcyon kite]

I'm really really hoping that they decide that the infinite Lifts are a feature and not a bug.

[spare ice]

Should the bendy part be infront or back 😛 ?

[flat zinc]

huh?

[spare ice]

Of the station:P theres a bendy part top part and the straight one

how do you ven know which part is the front lmao

[flat zinc]

the end that has the sign hanging from the top

that says the name of the station

is the front

[bronze atlas]

the curved portion is the front that the train should exit from

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing I would enjoy trains with more control aspects 🤔

[bronze atlas]

yeah it bothers me that there doesnt seem to be a way to make a train "wait here until the station has x product remaining" or "park in waiting yard" or anything

[ivory condor]

you can essentially use stations as yards of sorts, depending what your trying to go with

[bronze atlas]

maybe i just havent figured out how to do so then, i just mean like "wait here until station has a full load available" or "until station requires x resources" or whatever. I suppose thats kind of how it works by default with "wait until fully loaded/unloaded" except that the train will be blocking the station while it does that, so it prevents using 1 station to supply multiple products with different trains. Unless i simply havent thought of the way to do that.

[unkempt blade]

You can do a long side track with multiple block chunks leading up to the station if you want to queue multiple trains up

[echo spoke]

does the chainsaw only use biofuel? if not how can i change the fuel type

[bronze atlas]

right but it still doesnt work if a train is blocking the station waiting for the fully loaded/unloaded flag to wave. All the queing trains will just be waiting for it to leave

[bronze atlas]

upgrade to explosives is the only way to get away from biofuel chainsaw.

but i think you lose the harvestables that way maybe, cant recall the last time i tried to harvest any bio fuel ingredients

[bronze atlas]

what i want to be able to build is 1 station with a freight car for each type of item it requires for the connected factory, then different trains bring said items so the slower use items don't need to be refilled as often. Only way i can see to do that without causing trains to be in the way of other trains is just have one long train that picks up every needed item, but that then defeats the purpose of having some trains that come often for high use items and some that come much less frequently for low use items. I think its just beyond the logic satisfactory has built in the train system to be able to do.

Might be a mod that does it but i havent explored that yet.

[unkempt blade]

Ahh I see. I use very few trains that have more than a single pickup stop and a dropoff stop so the queue mostly works for me

[bronze atlas]

other option is to build multiple train stations so each material has its own target, that might be the only way to do what im describing within the current game functionality

[bronze atlas]

that makes sense. i guess my train brain is still stuck in the way i built stuff in factorio

[primal flax]

Are trains really worth the hassle, I've completed the game with only 1 train (because I wanted the achievement) but now onto my second playthrough I want to use them more but belts are so much easier to deal with

[bronze atlas]

i think the main advantage to trains over belts is that you can build networks that interconnect different factories, and you don't have the belt speed limit getting resources from one factory to the next. I would suspect that running belts across the map probably takes a lot more game resources for calculation than transporting them via train does, so im guessing it will make the game run smoother too when you get up into the more advanced stages of the game with a lot of machines

also, i think trains just look more interesting, so it would depend how much value you put on the appearance of what you build vs its performance.

[winter hill]

Hello! :D

[zenith fractal]

hi

[winter hill]

Ya! I also only use trains because they're pretty to look at - Though I'd recommend designing a train track in the blueprinter first so you can build tracks easier :D

[zenith fractal]

personally trains are so much easier to set up if the route is long

and besides you can make an intersection if you need to connect more factories to thhe route

[supple bane]

is there still a experimental version? if so is it on epic still?

[winter hill]

I mean...I think if you don't care about aesthetics, there's nothing stopping you from building 3 mk6 belt accross the entire map

It might just not be too pretty to look at :p

[rare orbit]

is posting screenshots of builds made with mods allowed?

(in #screenshots ofc)

[winter hill]

Why wouldn't it be allowed?

[rare orbit]

just wanted to make sure first 🙂

[placid stirrup]

Imagine how many times Cobalt and MrFun would have been banned by now

[outer scarab]

with the addition of autoconnect blueprints, making a long bus is actually really easy.

[zenith fractal]

but not very flexible

[outer scarab]

what do you mean flexible?

[viscid bobcat]

bruh im tired of these factory building games on roblox I keep seeing

like ill be scrolling cuz im bored and I see a direct copy of satisfactory

[outer scarab]

then stop playing roblox

[viscid bobcat]

im not

[winter hill]

Exactly

[viscid bobcat]

I just have the page open

[winter hill]

that game is full of pedophiles anyway

[outer scarab]

why?

[placid stirrup]

Imitation is the highest form of flattery

[viscid bobcat]

honestly I dont even know man

[outer scarab]

if something bothers you, just avoid it, it's not even hard

[viscid bobcat]

I play like one game on there that I find interesting

[outer scarab]

you literally said you didnt play it

[zenith fractal]

the way I set things up is making gigantic producers then ship the materials to many different places. the amount of splitters I would need on a belt for my type of playstyle won't be very fun

[placid stirrup]

Terrible advice if applied to anything outside the current topic

[viscid bobcat]

not really

[winter hill]

agree.

[viscid bobcat]

I dont really play it

[outer scarab]

ignored

you dont really play it, but you play it... k sounds like a self inflicting problem

[zenith fractal]

why play roblox when factorio and satisfactory exists

[viscid bobcat]

I play one game on it

thats why I said not really

[outer scarab]

and yet, here you are, complaining

[viscid bobcat]

whatever im not here to argue just wanted to point out that its weird that this game making bank even tho its a copy

[winter hill]

Yes, we're not here to argue

[outer scarab]

fairly sure Roblocks is free

how would they be making money?

[winter hill]

ingame shop.

[outer scarab]

roblocks existed back as a minecraft clone in like 2005

[viscid bobcat]

🤦‍♂️

[winter hill]

They're making a shit ton of money from little kids who steal their parents credit cards to buy ingame upgrades and emo skins

[viscid bobcat]

ragebait of this level doesnt work on me anymore

[outer scarab]

ok sounds like a problem that doesn't effect me in anyway, so i'm going to ignore it

[winter hill]

very healthy mindset

[viscid bobcat]

damn now I want to play satisfactory

but I cant take it anymore

ive played too much today

[outer scarab]

thats not a thing

there is always more factory to build

[placid stirrup]

Started going cross eyed yet?

[viscid bobcat]

no

does that mean I didnt play enough?

[zenith fractal]

you will know if you played enough, something along the lines of collapsing due to exhaustion

[outer scarab]

I listen to audio books when playing, I get a lot of reading done that way

[viscid bobcat]

not operating at 100% satisfactory efficiency tho

that'll get you a ticket

[outer scarab]

giving 100% of 50% is still 100%

it's not named "good enough for government work factory"

[winter hill]

I also listen to music a lot while playing :)

sometimes I even watch youtube videos

especially when I'm just copy pasting constructors

[zenith fractal]

the amazing cacophony of the different machines of the factory is the only music I need

[placid stirrup]

It's the 80s synth playlists for me

[zenith fractal]

i hear refineries in my sleep

pure recipes my beloved

[winter hill]

this is the playlist youtube created for my session today :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYT9wVwQ8A&list=RDQNYT9wVwQ8A&start_radio=1

Has lots of 80s in it too

I love Miki

[outer scarab]

I played the game where every end game item was made in a refinery

honestly they could have made like 1 more building to split the load in refineries

[bleak wraith]

quick question, anyone rember when they put UE5 in the game. that was 23' right

[outer scarab]

what is ue5

[zenith fractal]

Unreal engine 5

[bleak wraith]

the game engine

[outer scarab]

oh was that when they made us change to directx 12?

[bleak wraith]

Satisfactory started off on UE4 but went to Ue5 patch 9??

[outer scarab]

Honestly I dont remember

[bleak wraith]

im just writing a quick thing about Unreal Engine 5, because i remember as soon as that dropped on satisfactory my game was LAGGY

[outer scarab]

I remember when they changed the number of objects you could have on screen

the game was so laggy back then

[bleak wraith]

yeah but at least later in dev when it was on UE4 my RX6600 wasnt screaming.

its a near consistant problem on almost every UE5 game

okay it was update 8, so my GPU had just turned 3.

sorry to bug, i ws just writing up something about the... quirks, of UE5 and Satisfactories move from UE4 - 5 stuck out like a sore thumb in my memory

[rose lintel]

So are they planning on more updates for this game?

[bleak wraith]

mhm, they are still putting out experimental builds, they dropped one 3 days ago

i still love the game and wanna come back at some point but my adhd has my mind elsewhere

[winter hill]

What are you playing now? :3

[outer scarab]

I just noticed, there is no undo button... that's annoying

[bleak wraith]

a lot, and i mean a LOT of the finals, that runs on UE5 also. has a lot less issues mostly because the game is in smaller areas.

that game just has such high replay value with dynamic distruction

[cunning glade]

I want weather

[rose lintel]

Oh can’t put photos here. Was gonna show the random wheel I use to choose what game I’m gonna play

[cunning glade]

#screenshots

[outer scarab]

correct put them in screen shots

[rose lintel]

Ok put it there

[cunning glade]

Okay I have 7 floors of fuel gens time too place the last 2 and then make sure my numbers are right cuz I need too be consuming 5212.12 rocket fuel a min

Fuck whoever made gens do .416

It could've just been 10 or 11 and would've been so much nicer

Especially since we don't get mk3 pipes for gas

[outer scarab]

mk2 pipes use to break the game

just fyi

the only thing that still bothers me playing this game is you will line up something and as you hit Mouse1 to place it, you move 1 pixel and now the game thinks you want to connect a belt to itself by wrapping it through the 4th dimension

[bronze atlas]

if your factories can manipulate the 4th dimension i think you have a lot less to worry about than you're implying

or perhaps a lot more to worry about depending on your point of view.

[outer scarab]

have you ever seen a 3D shadow?

[bronze atlas]

i dont think so but im not positive

[white dawn]

Heh, I'm often annoyed by that general class of problem in UI

See also: lining up the cursor to make a text edit on a phone keyboard; lifting your finger will often nudge the cursor one way or the other

[bronze atlas]

it does suck when the mouse moves slightly when you press a button, i kinda wish there was a keyboard "place/confirm" button to avoid the mouse movement

[white dawn]

Gotta take a cue from photographers and have your button presses physically separate from the analog input

Hook up some mouse-click foot buttons or something

[bronze atlas]

you mean like how cameras have a button in a seperate handheld attachment?

[white dawn]

Yeah

[bronze atlas]

yeah that might be good.

kinda what i meant by the keyboard hotkey

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I suppose that is less effort than hooking foot pedals up to your PC. :D

[outer scarab]

you know you can remap your keys

[white dawn]

Still, think of how much more efficiently you could factory-build with extra buttons at your feet!

[bronze atlas]

possibly yeah. maybe you could get one of those keyboard extension things and put it on the floor for your toes

[outer scarab]

my friend uses a 14 button mouse

[white dawn]

(We've got controller support now; how about driving-sim gear?)

[outer scarab]

why not get a mouse that has a button per finger

you are limiting yourself to 2

[bronze atlas]

i had one of those mice a decade ago, i never got used to having so many buttons for my thumb

hit the wrong button all the time

[white dawn]

Heh, well the conversation was started via trying to isolate button clicks from mouse movements; more mouse buttons wouldn't help with that. :)

Though I've clearly passed into blatant absurdity at this point. :)

[viscid bobcat]

apparently you need like pointer on the front side button and the thumb on the back side button

[bronze atlas]

oh that would give me arthritis shudder

[outer scarab]

use a light pen

draw your factory

[bronze atlas]

i have a tablet, id use that but the display is low res so im not sure i could even play satisfactory on it without it looking like minecraft.

[halcyon kite]

God I feel like HD Alts are weighted but I can't prove it.

[bronze atlas]

you mean in the random gen of what recipes you get?

[halcyon kite]

Yeah. Because I know there are at least six or seven alts currently available to me, and ya know what I haven't seen? Packaged Diluted Fuel. But the other five? Every load.

[bronze atlas]

are you doing the thing where you keep unwanted recipes in the list without choosing an option?

[halcyon kite]

Wait.... Do you know why I couldn't find it?

Because I had it... But I was looking at the Packager instead of the Refiner... God I'm tired.

[white dawn]

The solution is to stop savescumming and just find some more drives. :)

[bronze atlas]

i was going to suggest that you may have already had it without realizing

sorry man thats rough, ive done the same thing myself, when i was looking for pure iron

[white dawn]

(also, RNG gonna RNG. Try to glean patterns from them at your own sanity's peril. :)

[halcyon kite]

Well whatever, my wall of saved recipes is so big at this point. I'll wait until never to just start picking them. Although I should unlock them all for the heck of it...

[white dawn]

I have been convinced of weird RNG biases too often in the past and have always been wrong, in the end.

[outer scarab]

i'm watching Hit Monkey while building my factory

[halcyon kite]

Okay, time to setup some BPs to build out a new Turbofuel Factory... I just want to be lazy this time.

[earnest oak]

Is 720 aluminum/min too much

[shrewd palm]

if anything that will not be enough

[dense violet]

if fine for going up the tiers.

[white dawn]

It'll be enough for awhile! Then later on you can make more. :)

Planning for the future in the game generally isn't worth it (unless you're willing to literally plan out future factory requirements)

[earnest oak]

I just unlocked aluminuum

[white dawn]

Aluminum is (IMO) often easiest to make in big chunks, but just resign yourself to the fact that you'll almost certainly want more later

[earnest oak]

I mean it's just 1 MK2 miner fully oc

[limber plaza]

should be good for now if u just unlocked it

[earnest oak]

Just seems like a lot and it'll be offline for 90% of the yime

[abstract heron]

hi chat 🙂

[earnest oak]

Same as my catering wire factory

[limber plaza]

its not alot at all youll see later

[abstract heron]

How much u making

[earnest oak]

Idk a full MK2 miner fully oc

[abstract heron]

idk how much i am going to do but it will be a ton

[clever stone]

Do you guys like to use your plutonium fuel or sink it

[abstract heron]

can u make ficsioum?

[clever stone]

Not at the current moment

[abstract heron]

so better than just sink it

cause then u will get poloutium waste

[clever stone]

True, though as far as I’m aware it does build up less than uranium waste

But yeah free points and zero trash is pretty good

[abstract heron]

when i build factorys i often do the side effects like i am doing turbofuel instead of not using fuel i am making it into power

Turbofuel into drones power

[abstract heron]

Until u have the power to make ficsoium

[clever stone]

Oh right turbo fuel

I keep forgetting to research that tree because I keep spending my drives on alts

[limber plaza]

rocket fuel 💪

[clever stone]

Is that line of research required for phase 5 shenanigans

If so I should probably hop to it

[limber plaza]

what do u mean as in line?

the RF and ionized ?

[versed mesa]

Hi all

[lime ermine]

Hi

[versed mesa]

Its odd that I was able to do great with oil factory pipes and it not as high as the Alumina factory and yet I am getting my problems with the pipes there and struggling to solve it ts mad insane

[wicked nacelle]

aluminum is more complicated than oil - that's why it's the next tier

the game progression increases complexity

[cunning flicker]

i have now begun to rebuild my factories, and i dont know if i should export the ingots or the products themselves. My main dillema right now is rebuilding iron, should i produce every item at the node (plates, rods, etc) and then export? Or just export the ingots and each more advanced factory can create what is needed?

[versed mesa]

Damn

[wicked nacelle]

don't rebuild factories just build new somewhere else and use the old ones to build hte new ones

[lime ermine]

Aluminum has always harassed me, mostly because I decided to pipe water halfway across the dunes to where I was building

[wicked nacelle]

trivial items (like everything from iron) should be built where you use it not exported

[cunning flicker]

ah ok

[versed mesa]

Yeah oil and biofuels and water and heavy oil ive not really had issue with at my oil factory

[wicked nacelle]

I mean, play how you want, but the most straightforward way is to just build it where you need it since there's iron everywhere

[versed mesa]

Sucks

[wicked nacelle]

iron/copper/coal/limestone is essentially everywhere, so there's no need to do anything fancy to make those in special places

[cunning flicker]

hmm thats true

[wicked nacelle]

aluminum and oil stuff, no the other hand does great with making it and exporting it (via trains)

[versed mesa]

@lime ermine How's NMS doing ?

[cunning flicker]

i had only considered rebuilding it because its kinda temporarily in the way of my rails, so i was going to build a new one at the 8 impure iron nodes in the south

[lime ermine]

Great, you built a corvette yet?

I can't stop 🤣

[cunning flicker]

so i guess simpler parts are easier to just mine and build on site (even if the iron node is a bit farther away), and more complex things like aluminum have dedicated factories that actually export

[lime ermine]

Yes

[cunning flicker]

yea that would simplify train logistics and bottlenecking

that was my main concern lmao

having a ton of trains and limited throughput

[wicked nacelle]

I admit I usually end up with a steel factory that's on my train line and if I need more steel stuff somewhere I can just spawn a train real quick... but it's really not necessary

[cunning flicker]

yea i already did that...

but i get iron not being on the trains

alr thanks then

[lime ermine]

I'm working on a single factory to produce all the ingots from iron to fixite that are then shipped by train to wherever they need to go just because I thought it would be fun

[cunning flicker]

ive just been a bit scared to actually commit to trains because of the infrastructral building, so i want to do it right the first time

[versed mesa]

Well i tried to when I last played but I took step back from it because the issues and needed a break so I got Satisfactory to try out and I play this none stop since the day I bought it ive got roughly 400 hours in now

[cunning flicker]

lmao

[wicked nacelle]

just make sure you're building 2-rail system (highway system) and then you just incrementally build it out as you build new factories -- if you do highway system you get full access to everything else for small incremental effort

[lime ermine]

Holy moly I thought me getting 200 hours in my first couple months was crazy

[cunning flicker]

mhm thats what i did

[versed mesa]

Lol

[wicked nacelle]

hundreds of hours... what a cute little measurement 😄

[versed mesa]

@lime ermine Am onto phase 5 lol

[lime ermine]

Dang I've hardly gotten there myself and I got satisfactory in February 🤣

[versed mesa]

Wtf thats crazy maybe its because you have a life i don't lol

[lime ermine]

Yeah I have a life

And I still play nms obsessively

[versed mesa]

Great

Lol

@lime ermine Check DM

@lime ermine How you getting on in Satisfactory?

[lime ermine]

Pretty good, I have a bunch of big factories up and been working on decorating them

[limber plaza]

anybody else got all aluminum being made in one place

[candid torrent]

the factory of despair and sorrow

[white dawn]

It's not uncommon; definitely been done plenty of times. Personally I tend to have a lot of different aluminum factories which just process a close bauxite node or two. More biomes to build in, more recipe chains to use, etc. :)

[dense violet]

it isn't really. Ionized is nice for jet packs though?

[wicked nacelle]

I have nearly that - except for some in the swamp. I need 4 train pickup spots in my main factory to keep up

[versed mesa]

Nice what phase you on ?

[wicked nacelle]

I ship in a lot of quartz, too. and some sulfur

I'm glad I didn't ship the swamp ore out - it's handy to have some there

[limber plaza]

ahh ok thought most didnt i have it all in one place which is also making up to nuclear pasta

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think most people do. Most of my saves I haven't done that

[versed mesa]

Theres a mod that adds 1k MW energy storage units like a battery

Id prefer 1k over 100 lol

[wicked nacelle]

power management in this game is overrated. they've made the system so simplisitic that you don't need anything fancy

transmission losses would add SO much intrigue to the power system in this game

[limber plaza]

i dont like mods that interfere with the main parts of the game all i have is architectural stuff

[wicked nacelle]

I just have enough offline storage so that I can recover if my trains get stuck... fix it, turn on the offline storage til power comes back then turn it back off once it's charged back up.

[versed mesa]

Yeah i do get you am interested in stuff that adds more variety also to building

[limber plaza]

yeah thats all i have to make thing look nice or get creative and i also have infinite nudge to align building perfectly

[versed mesa]

@limber plaza ive also got Architecture and other stuff mods but I cant see those tabs the mods hides tabs and apparently its downtown new controller UI or something

[versed mesa]

Facts am withit

[limber plaza]

wym u cant see them

i see all of mine

[versed mesa]

Yeah because your using keyboard and mouse

Theres current issue todo with Using controllers and scrolling down further to the the tabs

But i can do a search and get stuff that way but its really baggy slow when typing recently my game crashed when I went i was typing Foundation

[limber plaza]

ohh ur one of those lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah lol

@limber plaza somethings you can do with controller like you can with keyboard and mouse like for example i think with mouse you can scroll up or down to move item up or down and nudge in place

If you can do it with controller ive not dont it yet part from moving joystick lol

[limber plaza]

yeah i only use controller for certain games but i imagine u can somehow change binds to do everything a MnK does

[cunning siren]

If I build a 4 x 4 room with no windows and I turn the flashlight off... where does the light come from? 🤔

[versed mesa]

Yeah i guess so idk fully

[versed mesa]

You lol

[cunning siren]

How? Flashlight is off, what else produces light on the pioneer? 🤔

[rain ivy]

does anyone have any ideas for how to make a room of quantum encoders look cool? This room in my factory needs 19 of them but it's looking kind of lame so far

[versed mesa]

Idk its something todo with you and camera view i think its like a globe with light lol

@cunning siren share a pic please

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing anybody can reproduce it, seems like a strange game choice to not need a light source to have light

[viscid bobcat]

idk I really like open factories

everyone who builds megafactories always builds it enclosed

but open factories feel really nice

its like a giant circuit board

[worthy valley]

So I'm picking the game back up and I'm running into the issue I had last time with junctions. I've made these really nice blueprints for straights, curves, ramps, but now that I'm trying to split my track off its looking like a pain to get it nice. Anyone have any advice from their own experience?

[viscid bobcat]

but enclosed factories look super cool on the inside

but I cant get them to look nice on the outside

[simple mango]

Are train depots still a bad idea? Eg: Bringing in all the Iron Ore to a central location with Supply trains, and then a set of stations for Demand trains?

[viscid bobcat]

anyone got tips on how to make your factories look nice outside?

[rigid glen]

points to #design-and-architecture

[worthy valley]

For me it was a matter of leaving room for depth. I like to use concrete foundations and then highlights with architecture pieces and signs.

[rigid glen]

Nothing is really a bad idea if it works for you, and you want to do the work to get it. I believe that train makers on a large scale will ofrten have a circle of 2 or 4 tracks that circle the world and demand is syphoned off at multiple points off that circle

[viscid bobcat]

im hiring a professional satisfactory designer

[cunning siren]

IMO "moving ore anywhere" Is almost always more "work" than processing at the node

[viscid bobcat]

ah whatever i dont need sleep for tomorrow, time to work on my mess of a world

[rigid glen]

You do need sleep, pls sleep

[cunning siren]

I think maybe raw quarts may be an exception AND even then I don't change anything 😆

[rigid glen]

im begging you lol

[versed mesa]

Who going to sleep at 4.14am

[rigid glen]

I know for belting quartz is good because you get two different materials from the one ore

easier than belting for two materials fromt he source

[versed mesa]

Whos watching Dev Live stream later

[ruby spire]

are there any half width walls?

[outer scarab]

no but you can clip them if you want a 1.5 or more

[dense violet]

another good reason to use foundations as walls. Half foundations

[versed mesa]

Where's our snowy frozen map

[simple mango]

I guess that this makes a bit more sense to me if I move from my "car X unloads at station Y" mindset to "all cars unload at every station" and then I only have to think about the fullness of the train itself and not trying to min/max every car in the network.

[cunning siren]

Since walls boost my FPS is some situations I may start to use them on playthrough #8 😆

I've only really used foundations up to this point

Walls also have a sort of cozy vibe too? 🤔 hard to place it

[leaden turret]

Hannah doesn't want to add snow unless the snow will look good

[mighty fossil]

Hello! Am new to the server, read the rules and sutff, am I allowed to talk about an issue am having with the game here? Because I used the Q&A couple'a days ago, and my issue has not been solved yet 🙁

[leaden turret]

here if simple, #1038092680493801533 if wall of text / screenshots/ crash reports etc.

[mighty fossil]

Thank you so much!

[candid torrent]

i <3 phase 3 factory slop

lets get this aluminum!!!

[viscid bobcat]

your profile looks familiar

wait a minute ur in the zomboid server too

[zenith pecan]

Aluminium isn't too bad provided you don't overcomplicate the setup.

[viscid bobcat]

nothing in this game is too bad its just do you want this to look good or not

[candid torrent]

i love zombies and factories

[viscid bobcat]

some guy said he got to phase 5 with only 800 mw of power

just manually loading up all his factories

[candid torrent]

im fighting for my life with 20gw :(

[viscid bobcat]

is phase 3 aluminum?

[candid torrent]

aye aye capn

[zenith pecan]

I'm doing alright with 1.1tw 😁

[limber plaza]

anybody here know the server for satisfactory mods i wanna know if theres any other architectural ones i dont have yet that dont mess up achievements?

[viscid bobcat]

just waiting till I tech rocket fuel

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @zenith pecan

[viscid bobcat]

not one oil node will see freedom after that

[candid torrent]

i should use rocket fuel but sulfur urrrgh

[viscid bobcat]

im already producing 15 gw without turbofuel

just gota overclock ur oil extractors

[candid torrent]

i just have the age old 600 oil -> 20gw dilute fuel plant

[viscid bobcat]

diluted fuel?

what is that

[candid torrent]

water and heavy oil residue to make more of that good orange goop

[viscid bobcat]

how havent i heard of this??

[candid torrent]

idk but its really helpful

heavy oil residue alt + dilute fuel alt = double fuel

[viscid bobcat]

600 oil to 80 fuel gens?

[candid torrent]

ye

[viscid bobcat]

jesus man imagine how much 1400 can get me

omg

wait

[candid torrent]

i'll post my beloved son in screenshots

[viscid bobcat]

I have turbofuel

[shell mulch]

whoops.

Thats a whole lotta somethin vivonian

[viscid bobcat]

how do I go about starting a big factory

like

I want to blot out the sun under this cliff

I want the space elevator to be on this factory

[zenith pecan]

Turbofuel is one step away from rocket fuel, then you can go nuts with a place like this one #satisfactory-experimental message

[candid torrent]

idk i just kind of forget what im doing until all of the sudden the entire coast is factory sprawl

[viscid bobcat]

I want to ecumenopolis this planet

How do I begin

[limber plaza]

how many fuel gens u got or are u also using nuclear power?

[viscid bobcat]

440 should be

[zenith pecan]

No nuclear power, just three towers full of fuel generators and a support tower with multiple power augmentors.

[viscid bobcat]

should I make this an open factory or a closed factory

[limber plaza]

ohh ok are u feeding the augmentors?

[candid torrent]

ugh ugh ugh this factory is ruined

who on gods green earth wants to build 13 smelters :(

[zenith pecan]

Not full time due to incomplete factory setup.

[limber plaza]

got it ok cuz i have 208 fuel gens running RF that im about to double with 3 Augmentors that im not feeding i just finished phase 4 how much does feeding the augmentors boost ur power? ik its 10% non feeding

[zenith pecan]

Feeding ups the boost to 30%

[limber plaza]

got it ok thats a good amount

[zenith pecan]

Hence this lovely amount of electric #satisfactory-experimental message

[candid torrent]

13 smelters has me personally offended actually why is 780/60 13

[leaden turret]

because 780/30 = 26

[abstract heron]

i am HOPING for a stream tmr on twitch

or Today for me

[limber plaza]

13 smelters is nothing if u use a blueprint btw

[candid torrent]

yeah i know but im just mad about it being an odd number

[abstract heron]

Hello to u

[limber plaza]

i always power shard everything btw less machines and u can make them even if u want to

[candid torrent]

i feel guilty using power shards on tiny machines like smelters tho

[leaden turret]

reminder:
mk.1 belt = 2 x 30
mk.2 belt = 4 x 30
mk.3 belt = 9 x 30
mk.4 belt = 16 x 30
mk.5 belt = 26 x 30
mk.6 belt = 40 x 30

[candid torrent]

at least rn since all i have is sluggos

[viscid bobcat]

I had to use 24 power shards to make all my smelters produce 49.95 instead of 45

that took alot of courage

[candid torrent]

i respect the commitment

[limber plaza]

#screenshots all aluminum in one place

[viscid bobcat]

but you know what ficsit says

efficiency > everything

[candid torrent]

ficsit would love the hard hard work my boy vancouver is putting into this factory

vancouver flies so i can run

[viscid bobcat]

how should I go about my main center factory

open like a circuit or closed like a warehosue

I have infinite space basically

I was thinking like open so it can be like a cpu

my world is gonna be a big motherboard

[limber plaza]

depends how u want it

[viscid bobcat]

wow

thats really

wow man

you gotta be an advisor one day

[candid torrent]

i dont put my machines inside because i feel like it would be so so so SO hot in those rooms where stuff runs

[limber plaza]

lol i mean depends what u want it to look like going by what u said id say leave it open like a circuit

[viscid bobcat]

I would make my factories enclosed if I knew how to build the outside without making it look dumb or like a shoebox

[candid torrent]

"check out my factory" yeah whatever man its 193 degrees celcius in there

[viscid bobcat]

ye but remember the satisfactory trailer

when he was walking in the catwalk in between the machinery

[zenith pecan]

I did something similar, #screenshots message , converts 12300 ore into 12300 ingots.

[viscid bobcat]

that looks sick honestly

[candid torrent]

if i can look upon my factory and immediately tell what im looking at i messed up

[outer scarab]

i mean, they make lables

[viscid bobcat]

the scariest part of that video is mouse 4 to configure smelters

[candid torrent]

the confusion adds to the productivity

[zenith pecan]

Why?

[limber plaza]

oh shit nice i still have to build around mines here but im making 13000 alu ingot

[outer scarab]

so you basically just put a box around a factory?

[viscid bobcat]

oh yea how do I get hanging lights in this game

[outer scarab]

like how do you make them with the lights available?

or how do you unlock them

[viscid bobcat]

are there other variations of indoor lighting apart from the weird 5 lined one

oh theres flood lights I guess

other than flood lights

[outer scarab]

you can make lights out of pannels

thats about it without mods

[zenith pecan]

Very reductive but whatever 🤷‍♂️

[limber plaza]

the only one i designed is my Rocket fuel as of rn #screenshots

[outer scarab]

that poor power slug

[viscid bobcat]

panels?

[outer scarab]

signs

[zenith pecan]

I used billboards mounted horizontally, embedded inside glass foundations for lighting, you can actually embed them into a roof/floor etc.

[viscid bobcat]

ohh

[versed mesa]

Who is Hannah ?

[zenith pecan]

Here's a multicoloured example of turning signs (embedded into glass) into lights #design-and-architecture message

[leaden turret]

world designer

[versed mesa]

Really or wow so she a Dev

[viscid bobcat]

OMFG THE SIGNS GLOW?

[outer scarab]

very disco

yah the signs are just light

[viscid bobcat]

how do you make them glow like that

[outer scarab]

they dont cast light though

[zenith pecan]

21 blueprints total, 7 floor, ceiling & double arrays.

[versed mesa]

@leaden turret do you know how many work on Satisfactory?

[outer scarab]

you set the brightness to max

[viscid bobcat]

oh my god

[leaden turret]

about 25-30

[versed mesa]

For real no way

[outer scarab]

you could look at the credits

[viscid bobcat]

ok this is the greatest thing ive seen

[versed mesa]

Who's credits

[outer scarab]

dude.... loon... you need to watch a video

[viscid bobcat]

the awesome shop is awesome

ok I need to start sinking stuff

[versed mesa]

Lol

[viscid bobcat]

I havent watched a tutorial on satisfactory yet

ever

[outer scarab]

thats not what i mean

[viscid bobcat]

wdym

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[viscid bobcat]

I figured it out

im a genius man i figured out how to change the sign color

I figured out that when you do the clap emote next to the lights you turn them on or off

try it

[outer scarab]

i sent you a link loon go watch that

[versed mesa]

You just paint them right

[viscid bobcat]

no I just change my monitor color

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[viscid bobcat]

idc about rocket fuel, ill make it to nuclear before I get rocket fuel

[outer scarab]

thats not about rocket fuel its about how to use lights

[viscid bobcat]

i dont watch tutorials

[outer scarab]

its not a tutorial you walnut

[versed mesa]

@outer scarab send me it please

[viscid bobcat]

I will go in this like a knight in golden armor riding in a white stallion

ill stand up against the tutorial menace

im the last bulwark against the tutorial epidemic

[outer scarab]

sent

[versed mesa]

Am the only one thats not walnut lmfao

[viscid bobcat]

no thank you I dont eat walnuts

i gotta go to sleep man

[outer scarab]

loon i'm blocking you for my sanity

[viscid bobcat]

i dont do blocks like that

[outer scarab]

yah i dont care

[viscid bobcat]

we defeated the tutorial menace

ok goodnight guys

goodnight sleep tight dont let those tutorials bite

[versed mesa]

@outer scarab omg the work that went into that is insanely great

[outer scarab]

yah you can tell he did it in free build, but its a good video to get ideas

[exotic pilot]

What’s up chat

[versed mesa]

Yeah is crazy am not sure if i can ever be as good like it idk where my factories are heading lol

[versed mesa]

Hello good morning

[exotic pilot]

For me it’s 3:50pm

I’m in Australia

Wya

[versed mesa]

@outer scarab am jealous because I dont have anything as good yet no where near lmfao

[versed mesa]

Nice me UK

[outer scarab]

well i'm doing a city. Trying for a cyber punk look

[exotic pilot]

Dang

[versed mesa]

Nice you have any ideas for me please

[versed mesa]

Yup Dang it lol

[outer scarab]

depends on what you want to do? I am making buildings per item

[exotic pilot]

Probably better than living next to every deadliest animal

[versed mesa]

Yeah i mite started to work on that then have another building create something else and what ever that building needs from the other bring it over on conveyors

[versed mesa]

Sucks lol

[outer scarab]

here are some screenshots from my last build before the 1.0

[versed mesa]

@outer scarab am eating in bed and am starting to think on something

[versed mesa]

Ok

[outer scarab]

posted in screenshots

#screenshots

[exotic pilot]

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[versed mesa]

@outer scarab wow so cool and I like that big waterfall

[zenith pecan]

Part of that reminds me of my old nuclear installation over the falls.

[violet brook]

So uh- how common is the experience where you design a factory that barely meets the milestone (makes whatever you need in like 10-15 minutes), then what you need to make next is ten times more expensive, so you just gut the factory you spent hours working on.

[stone python]

common early on

[limber plaza]

common early before u get alternate recipes

[outer scarab]

every time

IMO you are better off not ripping it up and just feed it into storage then make a new base

[limber plaza]

where do u have ur aluminum factory on the map?

[outer scarab]

I put it in the middle by the red forest

[zenith pecan]

East coast at the southern end of the dunes.

[limber plaza]

ohh shit ok never seen it build there before

[violet brook]

Ah. I’m at tier 3.

[limber plaza]

i built mine crater lake

[zenith pecan]

Unless you're sending all the materials via subsurface tunnels, that location is a bit ill advised.

[versed mesa]

Mine is up in the mountains from green land and the forest looks kind of red and has little waterfalls

[limber plaza]

ohh ok gotcha

[violet brook]

Energy right now is the biggest hurdle, managing 10 biofuel burners is starting to get irritating.

But coal.

[limber plaza]

setup a small factory for bio burners with two constructors one for grass and one for wood

[zenith pecan]

Example of some subsuface building #screenshots message

[versed mesa]

But currently I'd say its slightly dog 💩 since ive done extra for creating batteries now so we working and we are not properly lol

[limber plaza]

by subsurface u mean clipped underground?

[zenith pecan]

Not too hard to get down there.

[violet brook]

Prolly makes the most sense

Although I can’t get enough solid biomass to make a manifold

[limber plaza]

i still have my shitty starter one up i can show u real quick one sec

[cunning siren]

It seems Infinite lift floor hole bug can let one connect to a floor hole in strange 1/2 locations AND 🤔 I can't seem to replicate it without it AND MK.3 blueprint desinger is not tall enough for infinite floor hole 😭

[versed mesa]

Today's words are Dog 💩 lmfao

[versed mesa]

Hmm this sounds like my issues lol

[limber plaza]

dmed you pictures

[crisp jetty]

im assuming 99% efficiency is not even noticeable compared to 100% efficiency?

[outer scarab]

is it really a bug?

[violet brook]

Right, I had something like that but had it connected to my main grid, so it’d keep going off.

[outer scarab]

or is it a feature

[versed mesa]

Try 20 to 30 efficiency lmfao

[violet brook]

that and it didn’t auto craft into solid.

Yeah I’ll remake that tomorrow

[dense violet]

if you're just seeing that on the readers of the machines ? I wouldn't care, they aren't super reliable. See if machines are actually stuttering

[cunning siren]

Some of the mount point alignment issues with floor holes can be fixed with snapping the floor hole down one notch from the floor. If one needs to "feed" from the adjacent sides though it seems to move the snap points according to the position of the center thingy on the lift AND that shifts stuff on the next floor over one notch 😭

[outer scarab]

You can run an entire base off of bio fuel if you set everything to 1%

[violet brook]

What does that mean?

[limber plaza]

u probably didnt have enough bio burners running

[cunning siren]

AFK strats

[outer scarab]

i afk already idk what you mean

[crisp jetty]

i built a plan on satisfactory modeler and copied it 1 to 1 so im assuming its just gonna work... well see though

[violet brook]

Actually I’m probably being dramatic. I had like 2000 leaves compacting and didn’t want to touch the compost until I had all of the leaves crafted so I could just switch it to solid

[dense violet]

i mean that assumes you made the plan on modeler right >.>

[violet brook]

When I could have just- extended it to automate solid and give its own burners.

[limber plaza]

yeah u need solid it burns wayy slower u can setup 6 per floor for now

[crisp jetty]

yep, im producing 270 iron per minute and using 269 insane luck and bad planning but it somehow worked out

[versed mesa]

Has anyone tried the pools mod yet

[limber plaza]

if you look at mine it first turns into biomass then solid thats why i have constructors back to back

[violet brook]

Also, should I approach progression by prioritizing what I want to produce for a milestone at the moment? (Either pump advanced parts into the space elevator or switch it up to just output lower parts like reinforced plates, rotors, and foundations) Or design it to be slower but both feed a supply chain for everything and output a surplus I can take, all of which make it slower?

[dense violet]

up to you really.

[dense violet]

I create new systems to feed off the old ones with buffered storage. So everything gets made pretty easily

at least for tier progression. I build completely differently after I unlock everything

[limber plaza]

i personally power shard everything

[versed mesa]

When do we think the update fixes will drop to public ?

[outer scarab]

This game has been in update fix mode fore what 6 years?

[violet brook]

I do feel like the latter is a bit futile (trying to make a factory that makes the needed parts for space elevator whilst also diverging some output to removable surplus) if I have to keep redesigning my factory.

[limber plaza]

still waiting on the rain here lol

[outer scarab]

I think they dont have rain on this planet

[dense violet]

make the basic parts and over flow them to space parts once buffers get full

[violet brook]

How do I set up that condition?

Or is that a loaded question.

[outer scarab]

if you ever played factorio, your base has 2 goals. Build the parts to expand your base, and advance tech

[limber plaza]

u need smart splitters

unlocked in the mam

[dense violet]

make factories that make basic parts that feed into storage, not sinks
use smart splitters to send over flow to space parts

very straight forward

[violet brook]

Ah. Haven’t touched mam a lot.

[outer scarab]

or just normal splitters with lots of factory that doesnt turn on unless it's stopped

[dense violet]

The mam is probably yoru most important building

research it asap

[limber plaza]

mam is ur bestfriend at start

[dense violet]

stays your best friend xD

[outer scarab]

blade runners are your BFF

[dense violet]

all the gifts keep on giving

[limber plaza]

id go out and find hardrives there are alot of recources u can get around them u cant craft yet and use them in the mam

[outer scarab]

xmas is coming soon, so you are going to need to build a bomb shelter for the gifts

[limber plaza]

@violet brook

[outer scarab]

Just remember, ADA loves you and would never leave you alone after you acomplish your goals of building her a nuke

[versed mesa]

What gifts ?

[austere forum]

Don't know if anyone else knows this, but I've learned with the jetpack you can get pseudo-"infinite" usage out of a single piece of fuel.

When a jetpack is burning fuel, it's performance is based on whatever selected preferred fuel you have, and even swapping fuels mid-air will change the jetpacks performance.

However, the jetpack only actually consumes fuel out of the inventory when you land to recharge, and will only recharge from whatever is your preferred fuel type when it's charging.

This is kinda obvious, but this means that even if you have a single container of lets say packaged ionized fuel, you can "re-use" it infinitely by just switching fuel types just before landing.

So you can have a jetpack with ionized fuel performance but only recharges from like solid bio-fuel

[charred hollow]

Real Fixit behavior is abusing the local laws of physics for maximum profit.

[outer scarab]

you will see

[cunning siren]

YES, in the end: (Spoilers) ||You will not be stranded on this planet as everybody else takes off in a nice spaceship you built for them 😆 ||

[frail sleet]

hide while you still can

[hard ivy]

ICBG
||Intercontinental Ballistic Gifts|| XD

[wild lotus]

Guys, I have a small question. I got a drone port, two drones coming to that port. One has to only take parts to a location, and the other has to get parts from another location. Is this possible to set up, considering I need to make sure one drone does not take any parts from the port?

[limber plaza]

question a lil confusing but it is possible they have theyre own input an outputs

[green fiber]

You cant make one drone only pick up stuff from that port and the other only drop off if thats your question

[wild lotus]

Yup that was exactly my question lol. Thankss

[green fiber]

Need 2 ports minimum for that

[limber plaza]

i seen he said 2 ports thats why it confused me im just stupid ig lol

two drones ohh ok ma b

[wild lotus]

Yea no probs

[granite ether]

guys i ned guide to liquids please

[hushed inlet]

Ok

[leaden turret]

pinned in #math-and-meta

[hushed inlet]

@granite ether

Fluid buffer wait no

[granite ether]

pipeline plumbing manual?

[hushed inlet]

Pump

If pump not work go under a piper a bit and put the pump there
It’s a riddle?

[pallid ridge]

Is there any plan for dev on adding new power source?

[cunning siren]

TIL: One can slide straight through a wall of industrial railing as if it was not there 🤣 Ooooooof! Who do I sue over this defective railing liability?

[limber plaza]

is oil based diamonds a good recipe?

[leaden turret]

• no plans have been announced
• there's a dev stream today
• there's mods that add different power sources

[hard ivy]

If you want to spend oil on diamonds, yes

Certainly much better than petroleum diamonds

[limber plaza]

yeah id prefer cuz im using almost all my oil for RF

well plan to

[zenith pecan]

I only used petro diamonds because I produced way too much coke for processing bauxite.

[limber plaza]

i should use impure oil for that or is diamonds high demand?

[reef basin]

purity of node is irrelevant, use as much oil as you need for your goal

[hard ivy]

I'd've just disconnected the extra coke and used the oil to get more diamonds but you do you

[limber plaza]

ahh ok i was told to use impure nodes for certain things

and pure for massive factories

[reef basin]

nah that's bs

use what you need

[cunning siren]

Turbo Diamonds is pretty OP and it requires one to package a bunch of Turbofuel ™ 🤷 and if you want to use it a 250% OC, have to use a priority merger and a fancy set of splitters and mergers to get 100 Turbofuel ™. I do it because by contract I have to use all things Turbo ™ 😆

[limber plaza]

ok cuz im trying to get mk6 belts for factories that im using many belts for this is my first time passing phase 4

[shy mulch]

Priority merger isn't needed if you have the exact amounts on the input

[cunning siren]

Maybe, I did not find that to be true for my situaiton

Who would buy power shards from the awesome shop? I mean... what a rip off, maybe thats part of the reason it takes 200 screws to build the shop, cuz they're screwing you over! 😆

[hard ivy]

Didn't even know you can tbh

[cunning siren]

YES, I learned just now too

[hard ivy]

Only a coupon apiece XD

[cunning siren]

WUT? Naw, should be a stack like everything else

So that's 10 per coupon

For something a doggo can give you!

[hard ivy]

The wiki claims you get 10

[cunning siren]

Maybe

[hard ivy]

Not to mention you only get access to buying them after being able to automate them. Or at least that's what the wiki kinda suggests

[cunning siren]

Just tested it in a creative save, it's only 10! Dayum... you were right one per ticket

#Scam

[cunning glade]

Chat I think I fucked up my math

[limber plaza]

hate when that happens lol

[cunning glade]

Well I thought a fuel gen used 10.416 but

Its 10.42 actually

Fuck me man

Actually I think if I just underclock the 58th one a tad and it should be fine

[limber plaza]

what fuel

RF?

[cunning glade]

Ye

I'm making 5212.12

I have 8 pipes of 600

That need too be fully used then the 9th that's 412.12

[tribal pelican]

aw hell nah theres a satisfactory ripoff in the next fest thing on steam

[cunning glade]

I have 58 gens a floor which I think still may be fine

[limber plaza]

ohh ok i had to split mine similar

[cunning glade]

I just need too figure out the percentage

[tribal pelican]

guys is it possible to report a game for being a ripoff on steam

[reef basin]

which one?

[tribal pelican]

its called exofactory and its a blatent ripoff of my fav game satisfactory ❤️

litterly looks like it

same color scheme too 💀

[limber plaza]

yeah i have 3 floors on mine fogot how many on each floor but 208 in total

[reef basin]

you can't copyright game ideas tho

[tribal pelican]

i mean bro same structure same colors an ai

even same hologram default color

[cunning glade]

Have 501 in total

[reef basin]

looks fine

[limber plaza]

yeah ur making more RF than me as well im making 2222.22

[cunning glade]

57.581573896353 this is how many I can fit per floor Soo the 58th one just needs too be 58.15%

[limber plaza]

lol

[cunning glade]

I think

[tribal pelican]

we all know if it doesnt look exactly like satisfactory its extremly similar and proly gonna be a cashgrab

if it costs like exactly like satisfactory

[reef basin]

which is nothing against law or anything

they didn't steal assets, code or anything like that, so it's perfectly valid

[tribal pelican]

yea but...

we all know they stealin off satisfactory

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message this is mine

[tribal pelican]

the developer is a alt acc too

i think

[reef basin]

and Satisfactory was stealing from Factorio and Factorio was stealing from modded minecraft

[cunning glade]

Not done yet but

[reef basin]

game ideas aren't copyrightable 🙂

[cunning glade]

Tbh even if they're who cares

[cunning siren]

I recall what the location of the DRG tape looks like from an image in my head but I forgot the exact location 😭 (NO SPOILERS)

[cunning glade]

Real

Never found it but I wanna find it on my own

[tribal pelican]

factorio is a 2d game
and also LOOK AT EXOFACTORY FOR A SECOND THE COLOR SCHEME THE BUILD TYPE EVERYTHING CALLS SATISFACTORY

i swear if its gonna cost more then satisfactory 🙏

[reef basin]

and yet factorio was inspiration for SF

[tribal pelican]

sf?

[reef basin]

satisfactory

[tribal pelican]

oh

[cunning glade]

Wym sf?

[tribal pelican]

yea insperation
THERES A DIFFRENCE BETWEEN INSPERATION AND BLATENT RIPOFF

[reef basin]

legally there's not

[cunning glade]

Just cuz they rip off the game doesn't mean it's gonna do good who cares bro

[tribal pelican]

factorio and satisfactory look diffrent but with a similar gameplay concept and
but exofactory is litterly low quality satisfactory ripoff u can see it gng

[cunning glade]

We don't need more copyright bullshit for video games

We already have patents which ruin the gaming industry

[tribal pelican]

no the problem its on the 1st section on steam nextfest

[reef basin]

if what you were saying was punishable legally, we'd have to scrap like 95% of games

[tribal pelican]

1ST SECTION

[reef basin]

and?

[cunning glade]

Yeah and

[tribal pelican]

bro u want a ripoff to get more players then the original 😔

anyways guys why when i change elevator names and put brackets any text in the brackets turns black

[reef basin]

if it's a better game, what's wrong with it?

[cunning glade]

Is this right cuz I don't wanna mess up my numbers again

[tribal pelican]

vro exofactory is NOT better
rn its just a ripoff if it changes then its fine

[reef basin]

then how would it get more players if it isn't better?

[tribal pelican]

true tho..

[tribal pelican]

anyways whats the answer to tis

[reef basin]

like there's nothing wrong with what they are doing

[tribal pelican]

yea

but can yall answer my question 🙏

[reef basin]

either they make a really good game, at which point great, we have another great game to play
or they make shit game, at which point they wasted their time for not much
or (most likely) something in between

there's no legal issue, no copyright breakage, nothing.

[tribal pelican]

i get it

but WHY WHEN I PUT IN A ELEVATOR FLOOR NAME BRACKETS EVERYTHING IN THE BRACKETS TURNS BLACK

what reason 💔

[reef basin]

isn't really a question (and maybe, just maybe, if I'm not responding to that, I don't know the answer) (and if you want to ask a question that doesn't go unnoticed, #1038092680493801533 is a better place to do so)

(also, please calm down with that caps lock)

[tribal pelican]

oh didnt know there was an offical satisfactory wiki jus checked]

most of the time when i seurch smt on satisfactory i get the fandom wiki

[leaden turret]

fandom wiki is abandonned ad-laden trash fire

[cunning glade]

Chat if there's no fuel in my blenders and none of my fuel gens drop below 50 I technically did my numbers right yes

I think I did it

Only time will tell if something runs out

[junior laurel]

Me with adblock be like

I have no idea what you're talking about, it's just the first half :3

[hard ivy]

It's not. It's 10.41(6)

[cunning glade]

It legit shows 10.42 in game

[hard ivy]

10 + 5/12

Because it's rounded

[cunning glade]

Well this game can die

[reef basin]

game rounds every number in UI

[tribal pelican]

im adding smt to the personal elevator trivia section on the wiki

[cunning glade]

So my math was right😭

[tribal pelican]

def needed ✅

[cunning glade]

Fuck whichever dev decided that shit

We're gonna round numbers like bro

Too sober for this shit

[cunning siren]

Ahhhh, DRG tape is MINE! Looked around the map for an area that matched what I recall in my head 🧠

[cunning glade]

Rock and stone

[hard ivy]

Fuck whoever decided the default burn time that results in repeating decimals in the burn rate. Could've made it 4.5/min or something

[cunning glade]

So real

[hard ivy]

But no, f u 4⅙

[cunning glade]

So real

Okay so how many can I fit on a pipe of 600

[hard ivy]

600/(4+1/6)/2.5 = 57.6

Assuming they're at 250%

[frail sleet]

It's just 1 per 14.4 seconds

anything "per min" is an abstraction

[junior laurel]

The balance just wants to watch the world burn
Because fuel burning was never enough

[hard ivy]

It's not even that. It's 3600 MJ/m³ and a fuel gen burns 250 MJ worth of fuel per second

[leaden turret]

time is an abstraction

[limber plaza]

how much time crystal do yall make per min?

[hard ivy]

Like 120/min for personal use

[cunning glade]

Ugh after I finish this I can start making progress again

300gw should last me a while I'd hope

I think power has been my least favorite big project

[frail sleet]

nvm 😄

[cunning glade]

My save is 15 hours from 200

Id estimate phase 4 won't be done till prolly close too 400

Ehh maybe I'm over estimating

[frail sleet]

i spent more time in p4 than every other phase combined

[cunning glade]

My issue is I'm so overwhelmed idk where too start first

I unlocked everything at once cuz aluminum was all I needed

I'll prolly figure it out but power first

[frail sleet]

yeah and it's awkward with turbomotors and RCU's gating critical tech

[cunning glade]

I have 10 rcus a min

It goes into a depot and then a sink for overflow

[frail sleet]

go get mk.3 miners then

[cunning glade]

I have them unlocked

[frail sleet]

but they use turbomotors

[cunning glade]

And I have a fair amount of them left over still from drop pods

[frail sleet]

unlock is the easy part

[cunning glade]

I got like 70 from drop pods

[frail sleet]

sounds like you already did most of p4

[cunning glade]

Milestone yes

[frail sleet]

it's aluminum, turbomotors, rcu's and cubes

[cunning glade]

I need too automate them now and stuff

I have alum and rcu

So cubes and turbo motors

I also need too make this power plant package some fuel for drones

[dense violet]

whats your issue?

[cunning siren]

Figure out the ratios and go from there 🤷

Can configure radar tower directly, not sure If that was always a thing 🤔

[cunning glade]

I will but power time

[heady breach]

how do you get the thing for hazmat that is not wire or aluminam

[cunning glade]

Fabric?

[heady breach]

no

[cunning glade]

I'm confused tbh

[heady breach]

lol

gas filter

how you get that

[cunning glade]

U make them in the equipment bench

Coal fabric and sheets

[silver bobcat]

Did they take the "kathunk" sound away when upgrading the Hab?

[cunning glade]

If u hit o

And search them it tells u if ur in game

[heady breach]

im not seing it

[cunning glade]

Search filter

Pops up for me

Or iodine

[heady breach]

im not seing it

[hard ivy]

Because you haven't unlocked it yet

[heady breach]

i will look one more time

[cunning glade]

Unlock In mam iirc idk what path

[heady breach]

oh it is in the mam

[hard ivy]

The gas mask filters are in the mam. Iodine should be unlocked together with the hazmat

[cunning glade]

Always check the mam

[pallid ridge]

Is there a teaser for what's next?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> two truths and a lie time

[heady breach]

ty btw

[pallid ridge]

Sorry, what?

[pale dew]

When do i get anything that will allow me to use uranium or just be safe near it?

[dense violet]

Tier 7

[reef basin]

Most likely not

[void gorge]

Most definitely not

[cunning siren]

Riding the sky whale thing is a good way to scan for treasure 🤔

I recall pre 1.0 when you would pet sky whale it would make a whale noise forever at that point in it's "loop"

Was a funny way to troll multiplayer games 😆

TIL: There are two flying Manta things 🤔

[pallid ridge]

Alr, thanks

[hard ivy]

In 2.0? 🙏

[cunning glade]

Why would we need one

[pallid ridge]

Variation and stuff