satisfactory

[cursive phoenix]

400 refineries

[hard ivy]

why would you do that 😂

[plucky flower]

You aint allowed to stop

[amber heath]

how long has it taken u

[peak wasp]

hi all!

i have an overproduction of heavy oil residue , how can destroy it ? only trasform in packaged ? thanks

[cursive phoenix]

im boutta make it

[cursive phoenix]

why not

[hard ivy]

coke

[amber heath]

ah, how long do u expect it to take?

[hard ivy]

why turbofuel?

[dim harbor]

isn't that pretty much the entire map

[plucky flower]

Overclocking probably used

[amber heath]

10800

[hard ivy]

a little over half

[amber heath]

yeah

[pale dew]

Brother, the more things you do the more things are there to do.

[peak wasp]

ohh right!! thanks!

[cursive phoenix]

yeah thats what im scared of

[cunning siren]

IMO Steel is a "strange thing" in the game. It's similar to screws... with certain alternative recipes it can be "mostly avoided". Example: With Iron Pipe + Encased Industrial Pipe alternatives, steel becomes mostly "obsolete" end game as only space elevator parts use them mostly. This strange game mechanic seems to boggle me sometimes. Why introduce something to then offer a path to essentially, completely bypass it? 🤔

[cursive phoenix]

like atleast 30 hrs or smth

[amber heath]

nah u good, there 10800 in the map

[plucky flower]

What are the limiting factors. Boredom will not be an issue but its hard to prove except from watching videos

[cursive phoenix]

i dunno i heard it was better then normal fuel

[hard ivy]

then why are you doing this XD
especially turbo fuel

[cursive phoenix]

dunno what else to do

ngl

or should i just do diluted fuel?

[hard ivy]

wait for rocket fuel???

[cursive phoenix]

when do you unlock it

[hard ivy]

tier 8

[amber heath]

yeah that makes sense, and its a bit questionable. but then i wont do too many cuz i had decent patience

[last tartan]

Does Satisfactory support Nvidia Framegen?

[cursive phoenix]

wich milestone

[cunning siren]

It's got Turbo ™ in the name so... it's GOTTA' be good right!?!

[plucky flower]

Customization. Its somethinf not everyone will use but its handy. Steel is not optimal and dev team realised it

[dim harbor]

i hear you but i think that's a great part of the game, whole parts of it are optional if you don't want to bother with it

[cursive phoenix]

fr

[amber heath]

it aint optional cuz space elevator

[hard ivy]

it's a MAM unlock but you need advanced aluminium production to unlock it

[cursive phoenix]

i can actually already make it lol

[hard ivy]

[dim harbor]

not @ you

[abstract heron]

why so manny

[plucky flower]

Nooo poor dexta

🫤😭

[amber heath]

?

[cursive phoenix]

MAN IM NEW

[woeful kelp]

I like this thing so i will buy it

[pale dew]

Now thats the spirit

[plucky flower]

Yeah but poor you. Thats all

[plucky flower]

Go for it. If you ever need help this is a heartwelcoming community or something like that

😂

[pale dew]

i mean all factory games have pretty good communities

and some inside jokes

[plucky flower]

Wow my humour is so dead I laughed at this

[pale dew]

i remember i was playing industrialist on roblox (goated game)

[plucky flower]

🤔

[pale dew]

and the community is actually really good

[tropic sinew]

what are some of satisfactory's?

[amber heath]

do u think 20 steel pipes per min is good enough or should i do 40?

[plucky flower]

The factory must grow

[tropic sinew]

that's factorio

[pale dew]

cant you see the "Say hello im new here" badge

[plucky flower]

Not my problem

[pale dew]

thats every factory game joke

[tropic sinew]

MR. BEAN

[amber heath]

what do i do with my mercer's spheres?

i have 3

[polar leaf]

Eat

[tropic sinew]

you can't really do that in satis cause things take so long to build, but in factorio it's just ctrl+c ctrl+v

[amber heath]

i just might

[tropic sinew]

MAM

[dim harbor]

harvest the scripture and compose it into a blood song

[plucky flower]

Wtfym?

[amber heath]

like bluetooth inventory or something right?

[plucky flower]

Brain error

[tropic sinew]

excactly

[cunning siren]

Check this thing out: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Conveyor_Throughput_Monitor if you slap it on a output belt it can show you how much you are currently consuming and plan accordingly

[amber heath]

what should i get it on?

[cursive phoenix]

should i go for rocket fuel or ionized?>

[tropic sinew]

and to most efficiently make you put your hoverpack into the depot whenever you try quick swapping to it

[amber heath]

my guy i havent made a factory yet, im planning for it

[polar leaf]

For what

[hard ivy]

ionized is awful for power

[plucky flower]

Common resources you regularly use. Concrete steel plates etc

[cursive phoenix]

rocket fuel it is

[plucky flower]

Yes

[amber heath]

and i havent unlocked it yet

[tropic sinew]

plutonium fuel rods

[amber heath]

very well then

[plucky flower]

??

[amber heath]

should i get the iron pipe alternative recipe?

[tropic sinew]

factrio has a blueprint system

[cunning siren]

Well in that case asking chat vs. using one of the many planner apps may be more effective IMO 🤔

[pale dew]

you can do it in satis too?

[amber heath]

i am using that too, but i dont know how much of everything i need

[plucky flower]

So why cant a satisfactory factory grow

[tropic sinew]

in satisfactory: want more of a resource? spend 10 hours biulding it. in factorio: just copy the build bro

[plucky flower]

Yeah but the factory grows in both occasions

[pale dew]

The only thing that annoys me in satisfactory is that they dont have the subnautica hologram building placement

[tropic sinew]

it can, just about 100x slower then in factorio. maybe even 1000 x. and theres no point. a 1/min setupcan get you through the entire game if you just wait

[pale dew]

like yes please let me set the holllogram down and bring the items later

[amber heath]

wait where do i use the mercer's spheres? im in the MAM but cant find the category where they're at

[tropic sinew]

someone need to make a mod that allows for a 3d version of factorio's blueprint system

[tropic sinew]

under like alien something or whatever, near the top

[cursive phoenix]

aw man i cant make rocket fuel yet since i dont have the last tier 8 for it

[tropic sinew]

I think it's with SAM

[amber heath]

wait with the SAM

[cunning siren]

Depending on the app you use that can be a common issue. Some folk enjoy having "all the factors" "in front of them" and tend to prefer Satisfactory Modeler because of it's ability to do that IMO. It takes a while to learn how to use like most tools and it may be worth it 🤷

[amber heath]

oh yeah i think so too but then i cant unlock it

[plucky flower]

Thats why the phrase the favtory must grow sounds better for satisfactory IN MY EYES. because you have to do stuff manually and need effort. IN MY EYES the phrase says no excuses I need to continue building the factory. In Factorio you just copy paste and wait again. In Satisfactory manual input is required

[tropic sinew]

not just yet, but I rushed it early game and it's so useful.

[amber heath]

you dont understand what i mean. the website tells me how i can craft them and how to craft it and everything. but i dont know how much of each i should craft for use, since i havent played before and dont know how much of everything i use regularly or at all

[tropic sinew]

In my eyes then it's "the factory must take 40 hours to grow a little bit" while factorio is like: "INDUSTRY, BABY"

[cunning siren]

Ok, so it sounds like you have yet to play the game at all? 🤔

[plucky flower]

Different visions both fitting the phrase. Nice😆

[tropic sinew]

they have a calculator built in (in the website, not the game. it's called "production planner"). presonally, for the best experience, don't use any outside tools, figure it out yourself, and learn.

[amber heath]

i have like 15h

[amber heath]

i use the tools with calculators cuz i cant bother doing it myself, but i dont use one who gives blueprints or tells me how to make it look nice

thats what i find most fun

[humble bough]

Me and a friend had a world in 1.1 that we played in till we got to computers but now I am wondering if I should just play it myself (he quit) or just start a brand new world

[tropic sinew]

I don't even use those tools, I use a spreadsheet. Although I'm in the process of coding a tool myself rn.

[amber heath]

perhaps you find that fun and if you do, go for it. i dont tho

[cursive phoenix]

bro the amount of things i need to automate for phase 4 is overwhelming, where do i start??

[tropic sinew]

yep! do whatever you want! You can play with keepinventory on if that makes it better for you, too! (I personally do lol)

[cunning siren]

Well in that case I would absolutely recommend you check out Satisfactory Modeler, as it can teach you many "standard" aspects of the game rules while you learn the dependences and ratios for "all the things" that it can link together for you

[amber heath]

i havent thought of that actually

[amber heath]

thats what im doing, and its working very well for me

[tropic sinew]

I love that tool tbh. Forgot that I use it 🤣

[amber heath]

do u recommend keep inventory?

i havent died yet so i dont know if its annoying or not to get the stuff back

[cunning siren]

WOH, you love something AND forgot that you use it? How does that work?

[amber heath]

do you guys recommend me getting the iron pipe alternative recipe for my steel factory or keep it as is?

[dim harbor]

i started some new factories for parts and linked them together through rails instead of trying to scale up my spaghetti factory. i would definitely take it one part at a time

also fed all building parts into dimensional depots so I never had to go back to a base to pick up stuff

[amber heath]

that sounds awesome

[unkempt blade]

it's trading coal for iron basically, if that sounds like a good trade to you then maybe

[amber heath]

do you believe it is?

[cunning siren]

OH yea, strangely phase 4 has the most requirements from the player. I'm neurodivergent SO I benefit from using the in game "To do list" BIG TIME. Breaking things into tiny chunks and doing one thing at a time... "This is the way"

[unkempt blade]

I roll a dice to pick which recipes I use

[amber heath]

i have a pure coal node that i can use which i think makes it feel kinda useless

[amber heath]

bro what

[unkempt blade]

I've already beaten the game, min-maxing is too boring and sweaty so I get variety 😄

[amber heath]

thats really valid tbh

[real shale]

You haven't beaten the game....

There is no beating the game.......the factory must grow

[dim harbor]

the good ending is when you cover the map in Golden Nuts

[cunning siren]

I mean... we are still "stranded" on a planet (Spoilers) ||and eventually left behind to rot|| so, tough to call that a win? 🤷

[last tartan]

Does Satisfactory support Nvidia framegen?

[real shale]

Yes

It supports DLSS, Frame Gen and I think reflex(?)

[cunning siren]

It's "funny" how many terms a PC gamer needs to know these days to min max their gaming situation 😆

[grizzled ivy]

is quartz purification worth it?

[last tartan]

I build pcs for fun

I love flawless optimization

war thunder is a prime example

this game has pretty solid optimization too

[cunning siren]

I'm pretty 🤯 how well this game runs on my 🥔 hardware

[dim harbor]

i think only once you're starved for quartz and already mine from all nodes, it's too complex to bother at my level

[cunning siren]

The Upscaling video setting is a "life saver" 🛟 for my hardware situation. 4K display + 🥔 hardware usually = 💩 🤷 AND Upscaling "saves the day"

[reef basin]

if you like it, it's worth it

[unkempt blade]

unlimited food, tons of doggos, and no neighbors sounds like paradise

[hard ivy]

only if you need both outputs. but if you're gonna sink either, it's a waste of quartz

[unkempt blade]

plus if I get bored I can just play satisfactory on the hub's TV

[cunning siren]

Wait... wut?

[grizzled ivy]

im not sure if i need it yet. just future proofing so decided to build a factory to just mass produce it. just wanted to get advice on whether the echange of nitrogen gas for more quartz products is worth it or if i should save it for other projects

[unkempt blade]

it was on the console release trailer so it's confirmed as a feature

[hard ivy]

it is quite efficient, but only if you use all of its output. if you're sinking anything, it's just better to use pure quartz and/or cheap silica

[cunning siren]

A mini meta version of the game you are in within the game you are in is some interception level shit right der... 😆

[reef basin]

generally I'd recommend to not future-proof

[unkempt blade]

they could do all sorts of collabs for that if they didn't want just pure meta satis-in-satis

and it could make my computer cry more efficiently

[cunning siren]

Collabs you say?

[unkempt blade]

like I really should be able to play goat simulator inside the hub, that would be great too

[cunning siren]

I have yet to play that game AND I love the "Goat Music" though. Sometimes I seem to somehow be able to appreciate the value of "seemingly out of place" things. I recall Will Ferrell saying that he loves "unacceptable behavior" and I tend to agree with that statement as the concept of what is "acceptable" can be humorous

[dim harbor]

+1 for goat music, I have that running on a boombox in one base and Songs of Conquest in another

[unkempt blade]

goats destroying everything is clearly funny whether or not it's acceptable

[pale dew]

will 5 normal and 3 pure oil nodes be enough? im just starting oil production

[cunning siren]

OH is that what happens in the game 🤔

[untold escarp]

is it reliable save/load wise to feed the 15/min water from non fissile uranium back into input after creating acid with it?

[cunning siren]

🤷 one way to find out, SCIENCE! If the answer is no then... wet concrete

[untold escarp]

cant rly find out quickly without letting it run for hours and save/loading all the time

[cunning siren]

So it sounds like you wish to use wet concrete 🤣

[unkempt blade]

Are you also giving it water from an extractor? If so at worst I'd think you'd have a temporary slowdown

[untold escarp]

only to jumpstart it

then closed loop

[cursive phoenix]

#screenshots message

[untold escarp]

i know it deleted some fluids from pipes ages ago but that was "fixed", not sure how "fixed" it was tho

[humble bough]

Made it to computers with my friend, should I start a new world since he quit?

[unkempt blade]

yeah I haven't run into any recent pipe bugs like that but it doesn't mean they don't exist I guess 😆

[pale dew]

im producing 1560 crude per min

how much of plastic/rubber and fuel should i produce?

[polar leaf]

How does one produce crude oil

[pale dew]

extractors

[polar leaf]

Then you're extracting

[pale dew]

No im materialising it

[polar leaf]

🤓

[pale dew]

from pure energy

[cunning siren]

PUUUMPing it

[pale dew]

either way what ratio fuel to rubber to plastic should i build?

[cunning siren]

If this is your "first" go at it, I do something like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QebpThRaE4r5QhP9dnDq

[unkempt blade]

30% oil for each and leave 10% unused as a sacrifice to the ancient aliens

[polar leaf]

I do more rubber

[cunning siren]

I tend to use more plast 🤷

AND then switch to rubber later

[pale dew]

i still need fuel tho

and i got 1560 /min

[unkempt blade]

then adjust the numbers he put into the tool and make it how you want to make it

other people can't really tell you what resources you need, it's down to what recipes you use

[polar leaf]

Ok but you're not doing 240 insulated crystal oscillator /min

[cunning siren]

Basic AF fuel for power is 💩 so... I'm not sure how much time you want to invest in that plan 🤔

[pale dew]

i have 2700 MW on the line, i want it for cars and jetpack

[runic sage]

Do I need to place pipeline pumps before or after the pipe ultilt?

[pale dew]

around the begining

of the uptilt

like not before it

[runic sage]

Vehicles and jetpack don't consume much, also for jetpack you should probably get a better fuel like turbo or something

[pale dew]

Brother, i just unlocked oil

i have no idea what languages youre speaking to me

i aint got no turbo

i will burn dinosaurs

[cunning siren]

If you hit E on the pipe it will tell you the "length" of it AND that can give you some information on you what you can "get away with" as far as the first pump placement in relation to the output

10 m head lift is "free" with all outputs as far as I know

[pale dew]

i think ill just use 1:1:2 ratio plastic rubber fuel

wait

cant i produce fuel from just rubber and plastic byproducts?

damn man why did noone tell me directly

[cunning siren]

Bruh, did not you not click the link i sent?

[pale dew]

i did but my dumahh didnt see fuel

i just looked at fuel plastic rubber

[reef basin]

make what you need 🙂

[pale dew]

I DONT KNOW WHAT I NEED

[reef basin]

THEN WAIT UNTIL YOU KNOW

[cunning siren]

😆

[unkempt blade]

keep making stuff until it overwhelms your belts and/or pipes

[polar leaf]

Sevrahn would've blocked him LOL

[hard ivy]

I'd make plastic and rubber from fuel not the other way around but you do you

[pale dew]

huh

[polar leaf]

do I need crude oil for anything other than power and plastic/rubber

I'm not using the diamond recipe

[real shale]

POWER???

[polar leaf]

I might just turn all the oil in the world left into rubber / plastic

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch crude oil

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=crude+oil

[polar leaf]

which will take like a thousand refineries 😭

[pale dew]

ive come to the conclusion that 520 for each plastic and rubber is ideal for my 1560 opm (oilpermin)

[polar leaf]

yeah no

[pale dew]

hyuh

[reef basin]

do you need 520 of each? 🤔

[polar leaf]

I have like 3 projects in mind and they each use like at least 700 plastic /min

[cunning siren]

You are not using Turbo Diamonds ™ ?!!? 😲 🤯 😆

[polar leaf]

and there is one that uses 2k rubber

[real shale]

🤓

[polar leaf]

🤓

[hard ivy]

*2300. unless you're already using more thhan half the oil

[reef basin]

I mean since they are just starting oil, they will make stuff for storage, not stuff for future products

[polar leaf]

ah if they just got to oil it's fine

[pale dew]

i have 29 hours in the game, if i get to a point like that in the game im pretty sure ill have more then 5normal 3pure nodes.

[polar leaf]

I made an improvised oil plant too that I'll dismantle later that made like 200 of each

in like 30 minutes

[reef basin]

and it would be fine no matter what. Don't future-proof 😛

[jade frigate]

guys maybe I don't know something but, what is the point of connecting for example 2 fuel generator to themself if you can't connect more than 2 wires to it = so you can't also give energy to anything else.

[reef basin]

not really much point, why?

[polar leaf]

the only building where that is useful is batteries I think

[hard ivy]

because a connector is a connector and the game doesn't care what it's on

[polar leaf]

all the other ones can only connect to 1 power thingy

[reef basin]

battery isn't a building

[polar leaf]

whats the name

[reef basin]

power storage

[polar leaf]

yeah LOL

[jade frigate]

I was thinking, damn this can be a good idea for smooth cable management and then just connect all generators to one power pole, but I can't or I just don't know how

[cunning siren]

"The thing that looks and behaves EXACTLY like a battery is not called battery in this game" 🤣

[unkempt blade]

it's just tough to remember because they're roughly the same size as the D cells I put in my flashlight

[lyric thunder]

i dont want to actually use the calculator to completetly calculate through what i need.

is there like a good amount of Base Ressources to have?

[polar leaf]

technically it's a power storage too so it's not completely wrong

[reef basin]

*the thing that looks like a battery but behaves like a capacitor/accumulator is not called battery because there's an actual item called battery

[cunning siren]

Actually.... SIRE!

[reef basin]

no, since "good amount" depends on your production goal

[lyric thunder]

makes sense :c

i was thinking about 5k/ore

[polar leaf]

why not

[reef basin]

better start with how much you want to produce of what items and calculate backwards

[polar leaf]

honestly just play the game and find out

[real shale]

Battery storage my beloved

[cunning siren]

Yea, strange part of the game, and it does act more like a capacitor and I don't expect the average person to know what that is or that their is also an actual part that is called battery later on in the game so 🤷 hard to blame folk

[real shale]

It's a battery

It's shaped like a big battery for a reason

[reef basin]

there's many things shaped like a big battery

doesn't mean they are batteries

[real shale]

It is a battery

[reef basin]

quite literally not

[unkempt blade]

it needs a less-linear discharge if we want it to actually be a capacitor

[real shale]

Okay so explain that icon on your power grid when you have them then

[cunning siren]

I wish our battery tech was as good as this games "power storage" tech IRL 🤔 we would be SOOOOOOOoo "set" with solar then

[real shale]

It is?

BESS is a thing

[hard ivy]

find me an electrochemical cell in it then

[reef basin]

oh that generic icon that is used all around the world for power storage? 🙂

[real shale]

Easy let me leak the blueprints

[real shale]

Also this

[split cosmos]

can i mirror a building?

fuck

[zenith fractal]

ya know, this discord should have a train sticker or emoji

[reef basin]

[zenith fractal]

wait

[real shale]

If we want to apply real world situation to this, this would be a battery not a capacitor because those are used for completely different things on power grids

[zenith fractal]

how have I not seen this? I've been looking for it

[polar leaf]

use SCIM

[real shale]

Capacitors are used for reactive power compensation, batteries are used.....to store energy and release it when it's needed

[reef basin]

if we want to apply logic, it's "power storage" because it's called that way

[split cosmos]

huh?

[zenith fractal]

I may be stupid and blind I guess

[real shale]

It's a battery

[reef basin]

battery is an item

[real shale]

Yes.

[hard ivy]

It's quite literally not. it's kinetic power storage

[pale dew]

Ive just figured out that i got bamboozled by oil nodes cuz apparently to get 5 of them i need some well pressurizer that is in tier 8

[real shale]

What does that even mean

Kinetic power storage? This isn't a reservoir

Actually that would be potential energy anyway

[zenith fractal]

yeah the wells are different. you are forced to stick with the regular oil extractors

for the oil puddles

until tier 8

[pale dew]

after all the math i did...

[zenith fractal]

very common satisfactory mistake

[real shale]

These people and their thinking batteries are capacitors, heresy for the electrical engineer

[cunning siren]

Ackchyually 🤓 mode < < Intensifies > >

[real shale]

Yes.

[hard ivy]

the animation of power storage looks like it has a motor and a flywheel and the power is stored as rotational energy. so it's very much not a battery, which has no moving parts, a cathode, an annode and an electrolyte

[dim laurel]

bruh i thought satisfactory model maker was for custon 3D models, this is so useful

[polar leaf]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[real shale]

A battery does have moving parts, the fluid inside :D but yeah no I get what you mean, truthfully I've never seen the animation

[unkempt blade]

it's just good this game is soft sci fi so we don't need to worry about how power storage works and can just assume it's filled with handwavium

[hard ivy]

a battery doesn't have to have a fluid inside. the electrolyte can be solid

[real shale]

No it must be 100% accurate or else!!!

[cunning siren]

OH the animation is pretty cool, it happens on discharge is probably why you have yet to see it

[plucky flower]

Thats the mindset you need

[real shale]

For grid scale application it's typically got a liquid, it's either NiCad or lead acid

[plucky flower]

Too much logic breaks the game intention of being on a deserted planet

[real shale]

Very realistic scenario, got stranded on the moon once

[versed mesa]

👋

[leaden turret]

directx 12 for you, no vulkan allowed or game will break

[plucky flower]

Huh what

[real shale]

Vulkan......bad Omen

[leaden turret]

vulkan
vulcan

pointy eared logic peeps

[plucky flower]

I dont get the random comment

[real shale]

Erm actually Vulcan is a bird

[leaden turret]

🖖

[dim laurel]

compliance

[plucky flower]

Your reacting to something with the message not being even close to what I sai

[real shale]

LIVE. LAUGH. CONSUME.

[zenith fractal]

the orb

[leaden turret]

terrible pun

[plucky flower]

So im asking huh? What do you mean

Doesnt matter. You know left me interested

[dim laurel]

shit star trek joke (no offence marv)

[real shale]

for a capybara you seem awfully not chill about this

[leaden turret]

this implies there are good star trek jokes

[versed mesa]

Seeing people's cool looking builds destroys my head worried that I mite not beable to compete even though i want to do great as possible lol

[plucky flower]

Capy Tired

[leaden turret]

build giant box, paint it concrete = brutalism

[plucky flower]

No im autistic and I fail to communicate well. and recieve jokes and all

[charred sentinel]

Has anyone else ever had an issue with loading Foundries directly from the top of Conveyor Lifts going through a Floor Hole? I'm running into a really strange issue trying to build out a factory using the Alternate: Copper Alloy Ingot recipe. I've got a logistics floor set up, bringing Copper Ore and Iron Ore up through Floor Holes using dedicated Conveyor Lifts. In all cases, I've verified that the machine has power and the correct recipe:

1. Feed the Foundry directly from the top of a Conveyor Lift - the Foundry will not accept either Ore.
2. Put a short Belt between the top of the Lift and the Foundry - the Foundry accepts both Ores.
3. Feed a Smelter directly from the top of a Conveyor Lift - the Smelter will accept the Ore.

I'm stumped. Any ideas?

[plucky flower]

Im not mad at anyone

[amber heath]

how do i get my session id?

[zenith fractal]

ya know, a project of mine may just be making a personal train network to get around the map. I may also just procrastinate though.

[plucky flower]

Might aswell... both

[unkempt blade]

What's the most watched show on Bajor? || keeping up with the cardassians||

[versed mesa]

Lol like am on phase 5 now and now i really would like alot more production going on for the same thing and I cant think where to begin my head is feeling not great and tired

[crisp jetty]

Will I need versatile framework, smart wiring, and smart plating after phase 3

[cunning siren]

What term is used when no walls are ever used? 🤔 Minimalism?

[leaden turret]

what's the response given by someone asking for help with quirky object placement in #1038092680493801533 when someone from the islands in the north sea offers to show them how it's done?

beam me up, scotty 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[versed mesa]

I want some cool looking factories but not sure what to build like how i want it to look lol

[leaden turret]

open-plan ? 🤷‍♂️

[versed mesa]

I am mind blown lmao

[cunning siren]

I did the same thing AND ran into the same problem. Solution: Don't use floor holes 🤷

[unkempt blade]

This is for the best. Factory carts + ramps are just superior to floor holes in every way

[cunning siren]

#screenshots message as you can see in the screeshot I made the same mistake on one side with the floor hole and later fixed it 🤷

[versed mesa]

How are you all coping with the game and building designing interested to hear please

[unkempt blade]

I put rainbows everywhere and/or build giant emojis on the side of my buildings

[zenith pecan]

Well enough.

[versed mesa]

Yeah i got to have colour to stand out lol

[versed mesa]

Awesome

[pale dew]

should i overclock 12 rafineries or place 24?

[unkempt blade]

do you have more extra power or extra materials?

[pale dew]

im using 1200 MW out of 2700MW

sorry no, out of 2400

ihave 32 coal gens setup

[shy mulch]

in 95% of situations just place 24, very little reason not to
exceptions would be: if you're putting them in a pre-built factory and space is limited and you cba to alter it to fit, and/or you have tons of spare power so don't care about wasting some

[versed mesa]

Ive got a disability and recovering trying to get better from Depression and Anxiety and you can imagine how hard it can feel with me playing this game some day I can do well other days it down hill dead end

[shy mulch]

I went through some seriously bad times in the past, still have slip ups but I'm mostly a lot better now, sometimes time can be a good healer and you just need to keep talking to people about anything and everything, chit chat helps the day go by

[versed mesa]

Sorry to hear that glad to hear you doing way better now yeah i am lacking to talking to people my creative mind is not fully there

[plucky flower]

If you ever want to talk about it. My dms are always open. Ive experienced prob all kinds of things. Ive started to play this recently. At school I really got overstimulated bc of my autism and felt comfortable in no space. This is my weekly cooldown moment. Seeing this community having arms open to help me is awesome to see. The factory must grow and so does my mental health

[versed mesa]

I think a rest from the game is needed maybe for 1 day or more

[versed mesa]

Wow thanks really you have Autism me to High functioning

[cunning siren]

I know this statement is cliché these days, AND some folk "like me" find value in chatting with LLM's like claude.ai 🤷 the level of non-judgment is virtually impossible to find in a human IMO

[plucky flower]

Im high functioning now. But I feel and see its decreasing as my mental health is going down. Im trying to see some therapist but I need a good one if you know

[versed mesa]

@plucky flower tbh I am not much of a talker alot of the times

[plucky flower]

That's alright

[versed mesa]

Yoo

Where that message go

About stimulation lol

[plucky flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mnewbis-gif-3847346524400222998

[plucky flower]

Doesnt really fit into channel. If you want to continue chatting best is move to offtopic or dm

your choice

[versed mesa]

Sure idk about chatting more my brain currently tired feels like I need alot of rest for a reset

[cunning siren]

Oooof, finding a good therapist can be super rough. IMO it turns out there are not many of them out there 😆 as silly as such a statement is, it's likely true

[plucky flower]

Do what you need to do. Ill never judge you for that

[plucky flower]

Yep. They are there but where they are? No idea

[versed mesa]

@plucky flower I do appreciate it though

[plucky flower]

Anytime. Dm is always open.

[versed mesa]

Sweet ill keep it in mind

[crisp jetty]

its always the goddam screws and reinforced plates mane

[versed mesa]

Lol

I think am going back to bed again feeling tired today

Good night all

[plucky flower]

Night

😴😴

[cunning siren]

Last play through some Jedi level folk in chat showed me "the way" to turtle phase 1 hard drives and "early" yoink Stitched Iron Plate and Iron Wire recipes 🪄. Cast Screws + Copper Rotors can also help with the "Screwining ™ ". Part of the trick is to hold off on some MAM resarch as that "opens up" the possiblitys for hard drive results

[versed mesa]

Please keep enjoying Satisfactory on my behalf

[plucky flower]

Northen Forest is just too op

Wdym 3 pure iron nodes. 2 pure limestone nodes and a pure copper node and a normal limestone node and change

[cunning siren]

The NW area is my favorite recently, many nodes in such close proximity ❤️

[reef basin]

You can't really use those fully anyway, I'd rather have more nodes

[plucky flower]

I just use some lifts and do some space planning

2 floors

[reef basin]

Lifts don't help with not being able to use a node fully

[versed mesa]

Wondering what there future plans are with the game

[versed mesa]

Imagine having side ways lifts also lol

Lifts on conveyors

Going in all different directions

Like you see in films

[polar leaf]

When new map 🙏🏻

[versed mesa]

You mean new Map ?

Lol

[polar leaf]

That's what I said

[versed mesa]

Nope

[polar leaf]

????????

[versed mesa]

You said Nap lmfao

[polar leaf]

Proof?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[polar leaf]

🤓

@hardy wagon #screenshots message bro what the fuck

[versed mesa]

The edited is the proof lol

[polar leaf]

How did you manage so much spaghetti 😭😭😭

[versed mesa]

Lol

Wondering witch was 60hours in lol

@fringe carbon your work is cool

[fickle arch]

i just beat the game for the first time after 250h, what now? I there anything else aside the grind for the golden nut?

[cunning siren]

Nope, time for another playthrough! 😆 No... on a serious note, many folk play "sandbox mode" from that point on

[versed mesa]

Dude how you manage 250 hours ive just completed phase 4 and that took me under 409 hours lol

[pale dew]

He made the factory grow.

[hardy wagon]

its beautiful isnt it

[versed mesa]

Yeah with more production going on saves you time I aldis not think thus when I first started lol

[fickle arch]

wow. I though i was taking long. i do have a couple thousand hours on factorio so that might have helped from getting overwhelmed but im not much of a decoratore, an aspect satisfactory seems to be geared toward

[pale dew]

How dou you have those highlights on the map?

[versed mesa]

Nice not played that game as of yet

[fickle arch]

wdym by sandbox? Bc ive heard the "end game" is destroying ur entire factory once you hav reasearched everything and then building it again but making it look nice with decorations and building, which is very much not my strong suit

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive wondered this i think there a mod

[amber heath]

do u like factorio better than satisfactory or no?

[fickle arch]

depends, i think factorio is a better factory building game but i prefer the visuals and exporation element of satisfactory better

[cunning siren]

Sandbox mode = there is no objectives anymore. Like Minecraft for example

[amber heath]

hmm

how much does factorio cost?

[versed mesa]

Rip

[pale dew]

ive figured it out

[hard ivy]

like 30 EUR? plus another 30 EUR for the DLC

[silver mountain]

do you need assembly director systems in phase 5?

[amber heath]

damn

[pale dew]

interactive map has the ability to read your save file

so it can just show em

[fickle arch]

yes

[versed mesa]

What you figured out ?

[versed mesa]

Or that site lol

[fickle arch]

im not so sure. i have about 6x more hours in factorio than i do in satisfactory which leads me to belive i have not fully experience all the posibilities of satisfactory. Its just whenever i try to decorate a building in satisfactory, i always get stuck and no ideas come to mind, no style or anything helps me as i just cant imagine what the end product might look like. The only factory i decorated was this aluminum ingot one but it was given up midway

[fickle arch]

You need to be into the logistics part of a factory to really enjoy factorio

[versed mesa]

What i want to know why every time I load up i get difference save numbers from 0 to 1 and 2 each day it changes

[pale dew]

https://imgur.com/a/brujxMI it aint so bad lowkey, 30h of gametime

[fickle arch]

how do u get images like this?

[pale dew]

You need to copy your save file to the interactivbe map

[versed mesa]

I get you thus is how my brain is lol

[hardy wagon]

spaghetti is beautiful

[pale dew]

@hardy wagon Man wtf are you doing

thats not spaghetti

[versed mesa]

Blocked here lol

[pale dew]

thats far beyond

[hardy wagon]

too many hours playing the game properly, this save is my freedom

[fickle arch]

on the building aspect or the view of satisfactory

[silver mountain]

i keep my belts straight enough that its not spaghheti but ugly enough that my builds still look bad

[versed mesa]

Let's say both lol

[pale dew]

Look at this#screenshots message , its so peak

[ember moon]

Would it be normal for me to start a save but I can fly?

[silver mountain]

#screenshots message

[ember moon]

Because I dont really mind about tthe achievements i kinda want a better way to get around early game

[hardy wagon]

beautiful power solution

[fickle arch]

i would give factorio a try. you never know if you are more of the decorative person or the logistics person

[pale dew]

32 coal gens.

insanity

[versed mesa]

True

@fickle arch am going to look more at the game right now to see what it looks like

[hardy wagon]

ive got a few coal gens aswell #screenshots

[pale dew]

Im scared.

[cunning siren]

It's a video game... what is "normal" 🤷 and if there is such a thing, who cares what that is 😆

[pale dew]

omfg

[pale dew]

Youre not even trying tho

atleas put em coal gens in an order man

[hardy wagon]

the worst part is it all works perfectly 😭

[versed mesa]

Lucky

[ember moon]

My first coal generators did not work at all

That's when j quit my first save file

[pale dew]

my first coal gens were a mess

[ember moon]

But now I've learned how to build a powerplant for coal stuff

[pale dew]

i was suppling coal from 400 meters away and water from 100

[hardy wagon]

guys what would yous rate my factory so far, still a wip ofc

[pale dew]

10/10 it must grow

[hardy wagon]

indeed

also i dont wanna flood the screenshots channel but idk where else to send em 😭

[pale dew]

design and architecture

[hardy wagon]

o ye

[pale dew]

cuz thats goddamn brutalism to my eyes

[versed mesa]

Ive got like 13 0r 14 coal gen at my starting location and this more or less work fine with tiny issue witch is easy fix but the water spots ain't that big ive not using 2 water spots one got like 5 or 6 extractors and latest area has several there also lol

Hears a question how many power storage units should you hook up to Geyser pure ?

[hardy wagon]

ngl i never used geysers much

[versed mesa]

Lol

[hardy wagon]

just stuck to fuel gens lol

[zenith fractal]

geysers are never really that useful outside of skipping biofuel stage

at most they just supplement your power supply

but it is free power outside of the initial cost

can't complain

[versed mesa]

Am using a spot for cooling systems production

[clever stone]

Ngl I wonder if I can get away with just one nuclear power plant until the end of phase 5

[versed mesa]

Facts you can complain is pretty good just hook up alot of power storage units and your good

[true mulch]

1 NPP will likely result in a net loss if you use too many drones or trains

the real cost of nuclear is using many different resources, but not in large amounts

the least you should go for in any situation is 3 NPP, and even that is pushing it, you can easily make it 6 or 12 without much additional overhead

[clever stone]

True true

I think I’ll just set up a small Nuclear power plant for now with a few of those buildings and then make a proper large one once I expand out to the northeast

My current location for the plant I have found isn’t as ideal as I hoped it could be

[true mulch]

I recommend going for 3 NPP even if it's just temporary anyway

[pale dew]

God thank god i learned how to create hyper cannons

map exloration is so much easier

and traveling

to think ive been using the sugar cube to travel

[lime ermine]

Sugar cube?

[pale dew]

small truck

[clever stone]

Would one manufacturer for uranium fuel rods per plant be good enough?

[pale dew]

"tractor, aka "sugarcube""

[lime ermine]

Oh the tractor

[clever stone]

I.E 3 plants = three uranium fuel rod manufacturers

[lime ermine]

Why not explorer

[pale dew]

you mean the buggy?

[vale sorrel]

is there a dedicated channel to ask for help or just general chat?

[lime ermine]

Yeah

[lime ermine]

#1038092680493801533

[pale dew]

didnt have it

[lime ermine]

Ah

[pale dew]

i used it for a short while

[vale sorrel]

ok bet looking for help with a no clip balancer

[pale dew]

and then taught myself to use hyper cannons

using em is so much fun

[real shale]

e4

[pale dew]

none of my rafineries seem to take the heavy oil?

all have power all pipes have pressure and the recipies are set

[rose saffron]

given that this is the main channel for talking about the game, I really wish we could post screenshots here to assist in talking about general gameplay and what you're currently building

[pale dew]

use imgur

[white dawn]

You can post screenshots in #screenshots , #1038092680493801533 , #math-and-meta , #design-and-architecture , etc....

Image posting used to be allowed in here, apparently, but it was kind of a nightmare. Image embeds are off for a reason. But there's plenty of places to post images

[pale dew]

idk if i want to add a picture i generally use imgur

https://imgur.com/a/brujxMI

[smoky scaffold]

first msg i read here, ty

put a totally very good space elevator placement in screenshots 💀

[white dawn]

Sure, nothing stopping you from doing that. But a significantly higher percentage of people are gonna see it if you just post it in basically any channel other than this one

[pale dew]

i mean i mostly post for people involved in convo

if i want to show off smthn ill send it to screenshots

[white dawn]

In 99% of the cases where I've seen people who need to post images in re: something, it really should've been a #1038092680493801533 thread anyway

[pale dew]

#screenshots message

like this

[white dawn]

But anyway, not worth arguing about; obvs nothing's gonna stop you from posting imgur links if you want. :D

(I mean, unless imgur is taken off of the URL allowlist, but I assume it's on there on purpose. :)

[pale dew]

i mean i wish you could post gifs tho...

[pale dew]

theres prolly only a blacklist

for yk what

[white dawn]

Hah, I am personally ten thousand percent glad that is not possible. That is, in fact, one of the reasons image embedding got turned off in the first place

[white dawn]

No, it is an allowlist. There's only certain domains allowed

[pale dew]

i mean theres black and white list

on discord channel making

[white dawn]

Right, and this server makes use of the allowlist, not the denylist

[pale dew]

well thats idiotic

[hard ivy]

no u

[white dawn]

I mean, that's your opinion, but you also want to embed gifs, so....

[pale dew]

instead of putting a few of links into blacklist you go and put so many into white

[white dawn]

The allowlist is quite short. :)

[pale dew]

man leave gifs alone

[white dawn]

I guarantee you that the mods are not spending a ton of time maintaining the allowed-URL list

(In fact I'd wager that their average time spent maintaining said list is zero. It doesn't change much. As I said, it's quite small)

[tiny orbit]

Skibidifactory

[cosmic pawn]

i finally unlocked le truck

[crisp jetty]

would someone be willing to help me optimize this factory im trying to build in #screenshots

[cosmic pawn]

we drive

i accidently hit a bird

i am a monster

[white dawn]

It'll respawn. :D

[pale dew]

sugarcube :)

[pale dew]

sacrifices have to be made

for ficsit (and humanity)

[cosmic pawn]

oo i can drift it

kinda

[fierce granite]

unless your over clocking the iron plates, you would still need 3 machines for the iron plates, so instead of splitting the ore 30, 30, 7.5, and making 20, 20, 5, it split it evenly

[cosmic pawn]

do you think i could get away with having 2 factory bases at this stage?

[dense violet]

no sweat 🙂 it's probably the simplest way to put down tidy rail

[white dawn]

I always recommend the lots-of-smaller-factories approach

[cosmic pawn]

like having a smaller factory only for steel

[lethal scroll]

just finished my copper cable factory for my depot, now to pray it doesnt overload my grid lmao

I'm plugging the entire plant in at once

[cosmic pawn]

i should do that

i just have like 3 conveyors for copper at my main base

[lethal scroll]

I posted screenshots of it in screenshots

[rigid mist]

what's the building render distance

[lethal scroll]

#screenshots message the inside
and
#screenshots message the outside

[rigid mist]

specifically for power storage

[crisp jetty]

this game making meh brain hurt

if i lower a smelter's clock so it is only producing 10 ingots per minute will it only take 10 or per minute as well?

[dense violet]

yes

[lethal scroll]

yes, and power consumption will decrease proportionally as well

[crisp jetty]

so is that something i should be doing if i'm striving for max efficiency

[dense violet]

no, power is essentially free and it barely consumes less energy per item anyway

[hard ivy]

It'll only save you a small amount of power. Maybe useful if you're still running off biomass, but after that, the power savings are insignificant (unless you build several times more machines than you'd need if they were at 100%)

[civic blade]

Hello, I am somewhat new to Satisfactory and I can't find a comfortable area to say 'here I can flatten and build the factory'

[zenith fractal]

thing is

i'd do that, not because you have to. but the efficiency number must be 100% for me to not want to cry,

i do not know why I want every machine to display 100%

but I gotta

[hard ivy]

My machines are at whatever uptime % they wanna be

Anywhere from 0 to 100

[cunning siren]

Practice building "UP"... meaning if it's just "parts" (Not liquids) up and down is a matter of a ladder or ramp in the early phases 🤷. The "higher you go" the more flat foundations can extend in any direction without geographic limitations

[crisp jetty]

satisfactory modeler is taking forever to load my factory plan bruh

[dense violet]

every starter zone is pretty flat except the norther forest, and you can just build in multiple floors there

[dense violet]

use a less bad planner then

[dense violet]

have you unlocked foundations yet?

[hard ivy]

Better start using manual mode then

[civic blade]

yeah

[frail sleet]

we cannot flatten ground, but we can build over it 😄

More foundations more better

[dense violet]

just pick a spot and put some 4m foundations down

[crisp jetty]

is there a calculator where you can plug in what buildings you need for a factory and it tells you the exact amount of resources needed to build it

[dense violet]

this is basically the least flat part of the map and you can still totally build there easily https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1318079364377743471/image.png?ex=68ebddd1&is=68ea8c51&hm=b42a619cb42488b88021d482ccbf2fd3b0781aec7ca0735f197e5273d84e61da&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1628&height=1057

[frail sleet]

satisfactory tools

[civic blade]

wow

[dense violet]

doubtful. why would you calculate for anything other than automated production? parts are essentially free forever once you automate them

[dense violet]

if you make a plan in Satisfactory tools it show you the total cost in items for the buildings?

[hard ivy]

Doesn't modeler also do that or am I hallucinating?

[wary perch]

Satisfactory liquids other than coffee in my coffee cup

[civic blade]

I tried, but it's difficult, and I think I will start in another area since I began in the desert

[real shale]

I spiked my coffee with rocket fuel

[hushed canopy]

im doing the sane

its 4 AM, the factory must grow

the aluminum aint gonna figure itself out

[spark sky]

I find it interesting that I can make a blueprint in the blueprint designer that, when I try to place said blueprint in the same blueprint designer (to make 3 side-by-side into one blueprint), it says that it overlaps the blueprint designer (yet I can load it into the blueprint designer with no problem).

[hushed canopy]

XD

[frail sleet]

ain't gonna grow itself

(yet)

[hushed canopy]

found out i can slap splitter and mergers on vertical belt tops and bottoms

i wish i found this out sooner

[spark sky]

Hm, I wonder if we could get ChatGPT or (what's the new one? Gronk?) to play Satisfactory and see what it would make.

[shrewd gyro]

sigh, just spent 4 days (an hour or two on and off) redesigning and re building my steel factory to add an extra 50% output, using only to realize after I was don't even need that much steel pipes or beams...

[spark sky]

That was in 1.1, I believe. We can now make vertical load balancers that way.

[hushed canopy]

to the sink it goes

[spark sky]

(I have a couple blueprints of some that I use now.)

[shrewd gyro]

my old one was literally filling up my truck stops and being sunk anyway

[hushed canopy]

so far havent needed load balancers, although i did split a belt twice yesterday because i didnt setup another foundry for aluminum, so it takes the 90 and sinks he 270

[spark sky]

The process is a bit tricky, you have to make a top part and delete the bottom, and a bottom part and delete the top, then put a splitter between the two and link the splitter to the two pieces with vertical lifts.

[shrewd gyro]

but because I've turned them vertical, they also only take up 1/3 of the room despite having 60% more machines, my truck stops are too far so I have to move them, and that means i'll also have to redo the road as well

play on my steam deck so I can just stop and start whenever

[spark sky]

The vertical load balancer I used in my biofuel power plant: #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Mah 🧠 just 💩 it's 👖 looking at that

[spark sky]

The power plant I used them in: #screenshots message

It uses 2 of them.

[cunning siren]

I'll have to mess with that idea because I have no idea how any of that works 😆 I usually manually prime biofuel gens then the constructor does the rest 🤔

[spark sky]

I have 5 constructors in the base that turn various biomass sources into solid biofuel, which is then stored and fed up to 18 biomass burners.

I manually fill containers with leaves, wood, mycelia and alien protien. Each goes to a dedicated constructor, all of which go to storage for biomass, then to another constructor to make solid biofuel, which is then stored. All 5 have been somerslooped.

[rigid glen]

I have never used that much time or design for biofuel setups LOL I have two storage into two constructors into 1 constructor for solid biofuel, the last stage produces so much fuel my line of biogens get full and packed up very quickly while I'm doing my work

[rigid glen]

This is what I do, but 5 sources instead of 2 🙂

I've never once made it pretty 🙂

[spark sky]

You should see my old one, it had only 9 biomass burners....

[rigid glen]

9 gens to push through to coal is running lean for sure

[spark sky]

This was my first design: Note that the fuel distribution was external to the power plant. #screenshots message

[rigid glen]

I like it, looks great with the batteries

[spark sky]

And, that's a blueprint.

I love the Mk 3 blueprint designer in creative.

[rigid glen]

Does it take away the height limit?

[spark sky]

No, but it's taller as well as wider than the other two.

I can't stack 4 coal power plants in it, but I can make a blueprint with 2 stacked and markers for placing the other two.

[violet brook]

Is it possible to have a conveyor lift bring something down?

[rigid glen]

they are one way, so they go up or down,

If you want an item elevator you would need storage in and out at the top and bottom with their own conveyors

[spark sky]

The 4-high coal power plant I set up: #screenshots message

[rigid glen]

Looks awesome, but it messes with the golden coal power math - 120 coal plus 3 water extractors into 8 gens 🙂

[spark sky]

Attach it first at the top to the output of something, then attach the lower end to the input of something else.

If you attach it to a wall hole or belt mount, the first end you connect will be the input and the other end will be the output, so to bring things down, connect to the top first.

[spark sky]

Well, I wasn't going for meta here, I was just experimenting with how it could be made. BTW, there are plans to put another set there, so 4 on each side could, theoretically, work that way (just connect the bottom two ends of the pipes across the gap).

As for the coal, I'll have to see how much coal 4 normal coal nodes can produce.

With my being limited to Mk3 belts, not sure how that will work out.

[stray creek]

what is a good amount of super computers to make a min

[rigid glen]

4 x 240 = 64 generators

[spark sky]

I'm not sure I have room there for that many.

[rigid glen]

Are you at the lake with the waterfall and 4 nodes?

[spark sky]

Yes.

[rigid glen]

start with 2 assemblers at 100% and work back from there, then sloop those for double

[rigid glen]

then you should, I have almost that many there now

[spark sky]

I guess it depends on how I lay them out. Since I started with this setup, I'll have to see how it goes. I am still learning how far apart to put pumps.

[rigid glen]

There is always multiple methods

[spark sky]

One video I watched said that the buffer should be above the first generator, so, I've had to modify the starting blueprint.

That probably means one more pump, vertically.

(I keep wondering just how much useable power I will have after powering all these pumps.)

[shrewd gyro]

how do I make sure a doggo is safe?

[rigid glen]

Ya, verticality isn't ideal for liquid systems

[spark sky]

Get my kennel blueprint.

[rigid glen]

You can lure them to a safe area then cage them in

[shrewd gyro]

how high walls? 1m 2m?

[rigid glen]

is a regular wall 4? 1m probably works, 2 is good

[spark sky]

#screenshots message

[spark sky]

1m does not work, 2m does.

(If we count the short wall as 1m and the tall one as 4m.)

But, I think the short wall is more like 1/8m

Is one foundaton considered 1m x 1m?

If so, then the tall wall is 1/2m

[shrewd gyro]

put them in here #screenshots message

[spark sky]

I tried something like that made of beams, it looked tall enough, but they climbed out of it.

They jump and seemed to be able to get a perch on the lower beam.

[rigid glen]

it says right in the build menu, wall 1m and wall 4m

so you're saying the 1m didn't work

[spark sky]

No, they jump over 1m.

I made a grid of 1m walls, coaxed them into a "cell" and put another wall on top of the one they jumped over.

[rigid glen]

then the contruction fence, with or without tarp, and high barriers will work

but the railing and both low barriers are out

good to know i guess, I've never trapped them before

[spark sky]

I've got 24 of them, that's how I got geothermal before Phase 2.

[rigid glen]

crazy

[spark sky]

My doggo kennel will hold 40.

They are a great source of materials you can't currently manufacture.

[versed mesa]

Yoo just waken up not even been to sleep that long

👋

[stray creek]

english?

[versed mesa]

What you mean yes English nothing more lol

[spark sky]

Did you mean to say, "Yo! Just woke up, and I have not even been asleep that long,"?

[versed mesa]

Yeah yo as in hello lol

[spark sky]

Well, the words were "English" words, but the sentence wasn't "English" grammar.

I take it you normally speak a different language?

[versed mesa]

Am British i only speak English when am currently still unwell my head trying to speak un normal

[spark sky]

Okay, well, I'm off to watch some videos.

[versed mesa]

Enjoy watch something good for me

[hoary stratus]

Is there a channel that I can show an image of a bug?

[dense violet]

what are you trying to accomplish? if you're trying to fix it, just saying what is going on is probably enough

[hoary stratus]

I got stuck in a wall, and I don't think it's suposed to be like that

and the wall doesn't have an interior so it looks like I am X raying.
That's all, just so I can report this bug

[woven drum]

I have 3 of phase 4 complete on the first play through. I like this game

[lyric thunder]

is 1 Alien Energy Generator the max i should build?

or can i just abuse it for quick power?

[frail sleet]

they can be convenient to drop a few for instant +20% power if you are struggling before a new power station build, but generally not very good unless you already have an absurd amount of power

[lyric thunder]

kk ty ❤️

[woven drum]

I still haven't found 10 of the red things to build one

I'm already at 6000 MW anyways. I would at least build one for bragging rights

If you want to see my crazy spaghetti on my first playthrough. I put it in the screenshots

[civic reef]

how do you all get rid of z fighting?#screenshots message this z fights really badly whenever i walk

[thin sandal]

is there a way to have auto foundations on railroad tracks like there is for pipes and conveyors

[civic reef]

there is a mod for that, not sure if that's what you're looking for

[violet oyster]

Wheres everyones favorite megabase locations? I was thinking of the crater area in the centre of the map. Im at phase 4 with about 300k power to play with.

[frail sleet]

Yeah, there. Crater lakes

[dense violet]

better just suicide. or reload autsave

[dense violet]

auto foundations?

[hoary stratus]

oh, no, there is a hole to go in and out, but it's obviously a bug

go in #screenshots

[dense violet]

I mean I guess you can put it in #screenshots but likely it's been reported

[dense violet]

just looks like you got clipped in

[hoary stratus]

The backrooms are still following me

[hoary stratus]

But it's really easy to go in and out which is crazy

[woven drum]

I've been playing without watching videos. Eventually you would have to do the middle because you have to cover the whole map to make a gigafactory

I started it in the desert

I'm also on the last section of phase 4

Apparently each biodome has a strength so you have to draw from all of them to be that efficiency that you're looking for

To me I'm still just beginning this game because I don't really think it starts until you're done with all phases. I'm now in the beginning steps of doing nuclear

[polar leaf]

Water

I just bring everything with train

Being flat makes building a thousand times easier

[frail sleet]

Ye, the 5 phases of the tutorial

[woven drum]

Lol.

So you're agreeing that all five phases are the tutorial? That's funny

I mean I'm doing 170 hour tutorial

[thin sandal]

whats the mod called

[civic reef]

Auto Foundations Under Railways by Andre Aquila

i dont fully like Aquila because they use AI for a lot of their thumbnails, but they also make good mods so

[polar leaf]

@little nymph #screenshots message how many km of rails is that

[thin sandal]

is it used with that mod manager ive seen online or separate from that

[civic reef]

mod manager

[frail sleet]

i'd estimate a couple hundred

[dense violet]

eh, random bit of missing scenery

[hoary stratus]

But is there a way to tell it to the devs to patch it?

[dense violet]

qna site, link in #faq

[dense violet]

you're better off building foundations before rail so you can direct it in a very neat matter

[woven drum]

Yeah I've clipped into mountains before. You just got to move around so you can get out

If you can't then you got to revert to an early or save. That's why you should have save on a hotkey

[polar leaf]

I had 40 and thought it was a lot

Although I'm barely halfway done with my world grid

[white dawn]

That or set your settings to "keep inventory on death" and then hit the "respawn" buton

[thin sandal]

ive considered that but it just makes long railways seem annoying to build but i havent tried so idk

[white dawn]

(or don't do the inventory thing and just live with the inventory loss. :)

[woven drum]

Yeah I didn't think about that setting

[polar leaf]

One thing I know I'm the master of is having the most pillars

[hoary stratus]

Thanks!

[woven drum]

I'm glad there's some people on to talk about this

I've been playing the shit out of this game for weeks

I did a 15 hour stretch today

I'm actually still playing I'm letting it run

[polar leaf]

The factory must grow they said

[woven drum]

Sometimes you have to take a break though and just let it run

And then you'll eventually see all the faults

[polar leaf]

My factory doesn't have flaws

[woven drum]

I'm a beginner

[polar leaf]

I'm built different

[woven drum]

I'm doing it without no videos other than when I got stuck on the liquid pipes

I had the sloshing and some bugs

[polar leaf]

Ur cooked with liquid troubleshooting pal

[woven drum]

It's all fixed

At one time I had to turn back the clock four times

[polar leaf]

Good luck finding out why your 600 /min pipe isn't outputting 600 /min

🤓

[woven drum]

I've definitely seen the bugs in the game

If you ever play Star citizen then you're used to that

[dense violet]

it's the best way to plan and make them neat and tidy

make a blueprint of the pylons that hold the rail

zoop foundations the whole way. It lets you plan things out and maybe change the path if you encouter terrain issues, then put hte pylons on the leading foundations. Keeps everything oragnised and tidy

[woven drum]

What I was thinking, I'll use my tutorial spaghetti to feed the beginning of the train system

And then rebuild in the center since I'm already covered the whole left

[little nymph]

Well it's 90 miles

I plan to stack a rail line on top so not to mess with the numbers and through put for nuclear

I have like 20 trains for my nuclear plant

I had to get like 120,000 items for my nuclear plant

[little nymph]

Its 145 kilometers btw if my math is right

[turbid merlin]

That looks sick. Trains look daunting. Haven’t even gotten to that part of the game before. Half tempted to use the mega print track

[little nymph]

Well it work at with my nuclear plant

[polar leaf]

120k ?!

[little nymph]

Like I didn't make it just to make it

[polar leaf]

Damn I be using 12k bauxite thinking it's a lot

[little nymph]

Oh yes!!!

I'm useing like haft the world resources on my nuclear plant

[polar leaf]

How much power does it make

[little nymph]

Uhh

Easily over 1 million

Ans I'm makeing ion fuel at the nuclear plant aswell to get rid of power shards so

That's even more power

[polar leaf]

Ok but once you've used all the resources to make power what will be left to use the power

🤓

[polar leaf]

Also can you share screenshots on the build I'm curious

It's like 2am here I'll prob go sleep tho

Gotta keep being productive for ficsit tomorrow

[little nymph]

Haha same for me its 1:30

[little nymph]

I have it all planned out to make alot of pasta and space elevator parts

Biomes have died for the rise of the nuclear plant

I must be the most efficient!

[little nymph]

I can do it tomorrow its late for me aswell

[little nymph]

Just ping me tomorrow so I'll remmber to drop some pics

The place is a very wip but still very cool

[rose lintel]

Is using camera mode as a drone considered “cheating”?

[cunning siren]

If single player mode only one person can think that something is cheating, if multi then more than one 😆

Nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so

[cosmic adder]

What are good alternative recipes to look out for?

[cosmic adder]

If its in game function, you use it

[cunning siren]

Phase 1 Iron Wire and Stitched Iron Plate

[cosmic adder]

Wut

[cunning siren]

What phase are you in?

[cosmic adder]

Idk, i need 2.5k like long thing, and engine i think

So prob 3

[rose lintel]

I got the stitches iron plate. Sooooooo useful cause I got more copper wire then I know what to do with

[cunning siren]

If Space Elevator is built the Phase will be listed on the upper right hand corner of the screen

[cosmic adder]

Yeah it is 3

[cunning siren]

Iron Pipe, Encased Industrial Pipe, Heavy Encased Frame can be handy to minimize the need for make a big steel build AND they tend to be more efficent with resource over all so, why not?

Heavy Encased Frame is handy to reduce the need for screws too

[cosmic adder]

Okay, ama try getting them

[cunning siren]

Copper Rotor + Cast Screws is a good combo too

Some alts are handy for various situations so, difficult to say in general more than that

[sullen gull]

Did something change to where putting a machine in stanby doesn't allow the buffers to fill? (Refineries in this case, wiki already says it doesn't work for blenders)

[cunning siren]

I do not recall if that was ever diffrent than how it is now

[sullen gull]

I could have sworn that you could put machines, (coal gens, fuel gens, refineries, etc) in standby and allow the buffers to fill

[cunning siren]

🤷 maybe

[vivid moss]

hey y'all can i somehow put the icon of a sign on the right?

[dense violet]

Only generators ever filled on standby

[lyric moon]

This game has got me using my brain and making me more and more confused the more I think about it, My brain doesnt brain like that.

How do you go from humble beginnings up to building the space elevator and giving it the smart plating to building proper factories with platforms all over the place? at what point do you "right lets start flattening out with platforms, with connections back the raw material locations"

[cunning siren]

Some folk wait till MK.3 belts for obvi reasons AND you don't have to. This game tends to offer the player many options and the idea of "the proper way" is more of an opinion unless you are speedrunning

[surreal meteor]

If you need belt capacity, you can overlap lower tier belts. I did this in my starter factory and it worked okay.

[clever stone]

Nuclear power is actually pretty easy to manage once you have at least one plant running full time

I’ve got two rn and I definitely think I can expand it

[cunning siren]

I try to avoid running more than one belt for something AND sometimes it's not avoidable. Had to run two 1200 MK.6 yesterday because I can not reliably get 1200 out of it in my situation 🤷. Learning how to make and use manifolds is a big part of the game for most folk and can help some situations where more than one belt is "needed"

[cunning siren]

YOU can DO IT!

[edgy hedge]

Is it possible to remove a waypoint attached to a marker I deleted?

[cunning siren]

Sometimes it's buggy and you need to set a new one to remove the "pillar of light" from the previous

[edgy hedge]

Ahh, that makes sense. Forgot waypointing a new marker would remove the old waypoint. Thanks

[jagged bear]

is there any mod to enable ficsmas? all the current mods for that dont work

[hard ivy]

First check that you don't have seasonal events disabled. If you don't and the mods still don't work, setting your computer's time to December should activate ficsmas

[jagged bear]

tried that and nothing appeared in my MAM

might be cuz i have other mods ill check and come back to ya

[indigo latch]

Anyone wanna play no mods

Just look for few people to mess around with

[jagged bear]

still doesnt appear

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[frail sleet]

It's always locked the buffers

being unpowered doesn't lock them

being on a tripped grid doesn't either

[hard ivy]

*Doesn't apply to gens

But yeah, production machines don't accept ingredients if they can't run

[sullen gull]

I guess I never paid attention because I was never in a scenario yet to where I was needing wanting to put the production machines in standby. Always just been gens.

[cunning siren]

Fuel gens confuse me, not really sure (Besides manually opening and using the toggle on / off switch on each one) how to "prime" the system

[woeful kelp]

someone here play with a gtx 1660 super? i wanna buy this game but i hope my graphics card can play it at like 60 fps at all low

[cunning siren]

I use a GTX 1080 (Non-ti) and can get a solid 60 FPS with the upscaling turned on and screen percentage at 50 with low preset. What resolution is your display? If less than 4k you should be OK AND if not then refund 🤷 probably one of the reasons refund on steam is a thing

[strong crown]

can anyone hop on vc and help me figure out this coal plant?

[woeful kelp]

Is full hd

[reef basin]

share screenshot(s) and describe the issue in #1038092680493801533

[cunning siren]

1080P? You are super set, with 50% upscaling at 1080P, should be ez-mode on your GPU

[strong crown]

i have 8 water pumps and 16 coal plants but the coal plants keep shutting off for lack of water. how do i get flow rate up or what do i do?

[reef basin]

read my message again 🙂

[strong crown]

didnt read last part lol mb

[tight rover]

@violet oyster oh wow. That's amazing.
Me and a friend of mine started oil parts production there and then just started adding onto it and in the end it even made fused modular frames.
It's such a mess tho that I'm scared to touch it and break everything xD
I can send a picture when I'm home. Might have to redo that xD

[cunning siren]

I would run DirectX 11 and set a a shader cache size setting of 10 GB in Nvidia control panel too, older cards seem to not do as well with DX12

[lyric moon]

Is there a mod "starter pack" that are just the essential mods that make the game better?

[cunning siren]

Seems to run best in Fullscreen vs windowed 😭 not much we can do about that 🤷

[reef basin]

not really, because the game is already good

[cedar socket]

guys can anypnje give me feedback on my WIP super comp factory design#screenshots message

[spark ruin]

should work fine enough on medium ish settings (at native 1080p)

[reef basin]

better post it in some channel where we can talk about it then?

[cedar socket]

alr ill post on design and arcitetcur

[spark ruin]

DX11 breaks the graphics
and the 1660supah has enough VRAM to run DX12

[cunning siren]

I wish it were that simple

[cedar socket]

i cant copy msg😭 😭

[spark ruin]

50% upscaling will look like garbage at 1080p
especially with FSR 3.1, TSR or XeSS

[cunning siren]

Running it right now and it's fantastic IMO, it seems as if we disagree and I'm ok with that

[plucky flower]

When should you start searching hard drives

[reef basin]

asap

(well, "as soon as you want to get alt recipes")

[bright echo]

weather when?

[spark ruin]

also dunno why you'd need to do that on a 1080
even if its the non TI
that card certainly does not need to run 50% rez at 1080o with low settings to get 60fps in this game

[reef basin]

who knows

[cunning siren]

Maybe, I guess the "price" of what is lost for what is gained is subjective, there are situations where I prefer a solid frametime vs. quality my old eyes may not even be able to periceve 🤷

[spark ruin]

you do you i guess

i just feel i had to point that out for @woeful kelp

[weak shoal]

damn this game is so peak

do i have to make an automation for every item?

like, will i need steel pipes?

[leaden turret]

probably

[hard ivy]

Have to? No. Should? Probably

Unless you want to torture yourself with handcrafting

[weak shoal]

ok because so far i've made a farm for every item i needed

so i should continue doing this?

[reef basin]

We don't have farms, we have factories

[reef basin]

If you need something, make something. Usually automation is the way, because that saves time in a long run

[weak shoal]

ok ty

[tidal ivy]

Yes, and later on you'll get dimensional depots which will allow you to get every component you automated directly in your inventory, like a cloud

[weak shoal]

damn

[violet oyster]

You can get these earlier via the mam if you have found some certain talking spheres

[weak shoal]

i have

but i'm stuck on s.m.a

where do i get these

[tidal ivy]

There are a few nodes south of the map

[violet oyster]

It’s worth just setting up a small Sam refinery jus to progress the mam

[tidal ivy]

Maybe somewhere else i dont remember

[violet oyster]

Dimensional depots are probably the #1 upgrade from the mam.

[weak shoal]

first i should do a Encased Industrial Beam factory

i hate coal

[tidal ivy]

Same tbh

[weak shoal]

the nearest i have is 2km

[tidal ivy]

That's where the game gets fun

You can find some alternate recipes that replace steel with iron though

[cunning siren]

Ooof yea, coal is usually what gets folk to "do their first outpost"

[hard ivy]

With alts you don't even need coal for EIBs

[weak shoal]

yeah but idk where to get those disk

[tidal ivy]

There are crash sites all around the map with containers that need either materials or power to be opened

[hard ivy]

Explore

[tidal ivy]

Disks are inside

[weak shoal]

ok

btw i'm tier 3

[tidal ivy]

You might want to get jet-pack first tho as it will help you a lot with exploring

Ladder from ficsit shop also

[pale dew]

Yo is biofuel different frop packaged fuel for the jetpack?

i do not mean packaged liquid biofuel\

[cunning siren]

LBF is the goat

[cunning siren]

OH, yea I'm not sure what you are asking and the jetpack does respond to diffrent fuel very diffrently if that helps

[pale dew]

Is there a difference if you use Biofuel or the fuel you get from oil

cuz i cant feel the difference

[weak shoal]

how do i get past toxic gas

[pale dew]

neither does it feel like flying longer or faster

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Jetpack there are number for that here

[pale dew]

masks

[pale dew]

ty, liquid biofuel is op

[hard ivy]

There's very little difference between solid biofuel and packaged fuel. Both are absolutely garbage

[cunning siren]

There are a few "tricks" with jetpack too. Like, "slamming on the space bar" vs. tap tap tap every now and then can make a huge difference in distance and height

[pale dew]

i mean thats kinda obvious

[cunning siren]

There is also slide jumping

[tidal ivy]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Jetpack#Fuel

[cunning siren]

And slide jumping on belts

[pale dew]

rn i need to get a method of trensportation of fuel, rubber and plastic

[tidal ivy]

Oh mb someone already gave the link

[pale dew]

already seen it

[outer scarab]

is there a way to rotate a pipe junction so its pointing up without making a pipe to connect to it?

I cant seem to get it to line up with a pipe hole