satisfactory

[prime rampart]

Why wont u help me

[limpid cairn]

because I’m off to bed now

Good night

[prime rampart]

oh ok goodnight

[noble timber]

I cant use my hand tools (chainsaw, explosif ect). the same problem they never resolve since version 1.0. I thought they resolve it with update 1.1 but its not.

[limber plaza]

wym u cant use it u got fuel on u

[noble timber]

Its not the fuel. I cant saw it on my hand.

So I cant do nothing.

[limber plaza]

can u place items down? as in constructors n stuff

[meager fern]

did you press the button "h" that hides your hand tools?

[noble timber]

When I push H its only small square with the tool inside them but I cant have my tools in my hand to use it.

[limber plaza]

how far u get last night bro

[meager fern]

i cant remember when you last popped in, but i got phase 2 done, and then basically nothing for 12 hours, besides getting packaged biofuel and 1 plastic+1 rubber

[limber plaza]

never seen that before ask in questions pretty sure somebody can figure it out or has a solution for you bro

[limber plaza]

fuhh lol

im just finished a factory for reinforced frames

[meager fern]

i've been procrastinating, and now i've ripped up all my stuff to make it look like a real factory, and make things neater

[limber plaza]

heavily modular frames i mean

mine looks horrible rn its somewhat organized but kind hard to with all this stuff needed to make the frames

[meager fern]

thankfully phase 3 actually looks fairly easy. i can obviously automate the veristile framework(even though i waited long enough to get 1k of them off 1 assembler) the motors dont look too bad, and i just have to get the last one figured out

[limber plaza]

i usually just sloop all that stuff

[meager fern]

i dont have any of the slooping stuff unlocked, basically all i've picked up are mercer spheres

even though i've been flying around killing irradiated hogs

[limber plaza]

want help? can help collect stuff for mam rq

[meager fern]

nah i'm fine, im just trying to take it easy so i dont get burnt out focusing on numbers

40h(technically 30) in and i basically just got to oil processing 😔 i think i'm on pace for a world record

[limber plaza]

gotcha ima build aluminum factory rn easiest factory imo

[limber plaza]

yeah crazy because to get started takes a while then it gets faster and the end just takes twice as long

actually i need power ima build a diluted fuel factory and rocket fuel factory

[bleak dust]

Is there a section here on discord to report bugs?

[limber plaza]

create a ticket

[meager fern]

". Game related issues should be directed to https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/"

[reef basin]

QA site, not on this discord

[cursive totem]

dealing with trains, is it possible to have trains unload mulitple different items without having the train carts arranged in the exact same order as well?

[limber plaza]

stupid question does compacted coal give more power in a coal gen as to reg coal

[meager fern]

i think it just lasts longer? but im not sure

[bronze atlas]

I have a question about a bug ive experienced. Has anyone else come across the game not saving colors correctly? Like when im editing colors in a swatch theres a little save color button beside the various colors. I have run into issues where i set the values and then save it, and it doesn't save all the numbers correctly so i often get a completely different color.

Is this a common bug?

[meager fern]

" the burn time is more than doubled (from 4 seconds to 8.4 seconds), meaning a given amount of Compacted Coal per minute can run over twice as many Coal Generators."

[limber plaza]

yeah cuz one says 300mj and the other says 630mj just confused

ahh ok

[meager fern]

so its a way to get more bang for your buck from coal in exchange for sulfur

[bronze atlas]

as you progress further through the fuel burning power generation it is the same idea for each consecutive fuel pretty much

[hard ivy]

All generators produce the same amount of power, regardless of fuel. Different fuels just burn slower/faster

[limber plaza]

ahh gotcha thanks

[bronze atlas]

and the slower burning ones can be used to power more generators thus producing more power

[limber plaza]

ohh ok what is best for oil gens?

[white dawn]

Depends what you mean by "best," but Rocket Fuel is the endgame oil-power solution. :)

[hard ivy]

that just depends on the amount you make. you can power way more gens with 240 coal than 60 compacted coal

[limber plaza]

i only have reg fuel rn somone said diluted fuel was one of the best?

[hard ivy]

that's an alt recipe for fuel

[white dawn]

Diluted Fuel is just an alternate recipe which lets you make more fuel out of the same amount of oil. It's still just Fuel in the end (technically you also pair that recipe with the "Heavy Oil Recipe" recipe)

[limber plaza]

yeah i have one coal factory with 32 coal gens and 2 pure nodes

[white dawn]

But yes, Diluted Fuel is A+. It's more work, but most folks find it worth it

In Phase 3, you've only got access to the Packaged version, which is slightly more work but it's identical to the non-Packaged version in terms of resource ratios

[bronze atlas]

of course but 240 compacted coal will power way more generators than 240 coal is my point. Of course if you make less of a stronger fuel it will power less generators

[white dawn]

(ie: have to package water, make the packaged diluted fuel, and then unpackage the fuel. You can do that in nice little closed loops inside a blueprint, though)

[limber plaza]

ive got rocket fuel unlocked already just not sure how to go about making a factory for it

[bronze atlas]

if you've already built a turbo fuel factory you basically just add steps

[limber plaza]

somebody in here gave me a nice blueprint for diluted fuel to packed and unpacked

[bronze atlas]

or you can at least, sometimes there are alt recipes that change how you build it

[limber plaza]

yeah i have the recipe for the blender for rocket fuel using coal and sulfur

[safe rose]

Hey if anyone was wanting pre Install satisfactory on Xbox the pre load is up now. Have it nice and ready on release day.

[plucky flower]

Lets goo I finally set up coal power

im free 😀

[limber plaza]

i gotta find oil near sulfur to make this turbo fuel into rocket fuel correct?

[cursive totem]

is there a known bug that signales placed right on a junction never work? it always says it loops on itself, but when i place the signal a few meters ahead of the exact same junction it works fine

[white dawn]

Yeah, that often seems to cause problems. Though it doesn't seem to hit everyone; I'm not actually sure what triggers it, in the end

I just got used to placing the signals a bit further back from the junction itself

[cursive totem]

yeah me to. it was driving me crazy before

[mystic oriole]

Has anyone attempted to make the look of solar panels using vanilla items?

[lunar warren]

prob

[noble timber]

I am tired to reopen my game to use my hand tools.

They never resolved that bug.

[solemn crystal]

guys all factory games that i know of are on sale rn

dyson shpere, shapez, shapez 2, and satisfactory

[reef basin]

that will never happen to me 🙂

[hard ivy]

well, I'm going to ruin that for you

Factorio

[solemn crystal]

GRRR

technically factorio is free because of the demo

[meager fern]

demos dont really count

[silk ocean]

It's a Steam Sale - a lot of stuff is on discount

[solemn crystal]

true but he ruined it ;c

[solemn crystal]

yea but like factory games

[silk ocean]

Not just Factory games.. a lot of stuff xD

[meager fern]

wow, even the g.o.t.y "chocolate factory" is on sale

satisfactory, but with candy

[solemn crystal]

aint that just ficsmas

[meager fern]

no its all candy

[solemn crystal]

ok

[meager fern]

every single resource

[solemn crystal]

i wanna eat it 🤤

[silk ocean]

Get Factorio then, but WUBE never go on discount, company policy xD

[meager fern]

WUBE?

oh

[silk ocean]

Studio behind Factorio

[meager fern]

well i dont agree with that company policy, so im going to remove it from my account with no refund 😔

[solemn crystal]

its lowest recorded price was %50 off

so i dont think its getting any cheaper

its kinda old tho ngl

[silk ocean]

Satisfactory and Factorio are twins imo, they are both worth playing

[solemn crystal]

i wont be buying it till it goes on discount

i bought satisfactory for like 43 aed back in the early access days

[meager fern]

i was waiting for space age to go on sale, because i need all the content to play a game, but if it doesnt go on discount then i will never actually play through it

[silk ocean]

Factorio never has been and probably never will be on "discount"

[solemn crystal]

(9.97 euros)

[solemn crystal]

reminds me of beatsaber

[hard ivy]

factorio never goes on sale. it only goes up in price every few years

[solemn crystal]

ight i gotta go sleep now

[meager fern]

yeah thats been established, thats why im removing it

[silk ocean]

You're missing out on an epic factory builder, also an illogical decision

[plucky flower]

Microsoft to do discussing what to do is ironically

[meager fern]

not really. im not going to pay 45 dollars for some space dlc, and if its never going on sale then im never getting it, so i'll never have access to all the content

[silk ocean]

Wat? It's like 30 for the entire shooter match? Let me check Steam

[meager fern]

factorio 45 dollars. factorio space age 45 dollars

[silk ocean]

You only need to start with the base for 30 quid or whatever bucks it is 35

Get the DLC later

[meager fern]

like i said im not going to pay that much for a dlc that costs as much as the base game

[hard ivy]

they're both 35?

[meager fern]

do people forget that currencies exist 🤔

[silk ocean]

What is your currency good Sir/Madam

[hard ivy]

do you live in switzerland or something?

[meager fern]

canadian, and its 45 dollars canadian for each of them

[silk ocean]

For each? Define each

As in 45 each, or 45 same for either

[cunning siren]

Heeeey y'all ❤️

[meager fern]

i have already defined each "factorio 45 dollars. factorio space age 45 dollars"

[hard ivy]

maybe you should've specified CAD? because that's not the dollars people default to

[silk ocean]

Factorio Space Age includes the whole base

[hard ivy]

it's a DLC

[silk ocean]

You can't run Space Age without the base

[silk ocean]

It is yea

[meager fern]

yeah its a dlc, it says that it requires the base game to run, it doesnt include it

[hard ivy]

so you need to buy both...

[silk ocean]

Wait.... Canada is charging ANOTHER 45 bucks for Space Age?

[meager fern]

no, steam is

[hard ivy]

everone's gotta buy both to play both? you can't even buy just SA

[meager fern]

kekw

[silk ocean]

I guess, I'm kinda old skool. I had the base game and paid about 25 for Space Age

[plucky flower]

Whats the website to plan your factorys out

[silk ocean]

Let me check my Steam client xD

[cunning siren]

Factorio is a fantastic game, one of the most optimized games in existence too. Kind of crazy what kind of 🥔 hardware will run it

[plucky flower]

factories* mb guys

[hard ivy]

I mean I did too, but if you're buying now, it's 70 bucks

[silk ocean]

Yea seems things have changed

Man Factorio was cheaper when I got it

Yea so in the UK it seems like it's £30 for the base game and £30 for the Space Age DLC

[hard ivy]

I paid 20 EUR in 2016 lol

[silk ocean]

Gonna check my purchase history lol

[hazy bison]

For a sec I thought I was on the wrong discord, but mfs are actually arguing about another game's price on here...

[cunning siren]

SOOOO... how those doggos doin'?

[silk ocean]

In 2016 / July 29, I paid £15

[solemn relic]

im moving into a large factory im making far from my current factory, whats the best way to move all my resoruces from factory A to factory B, or do i just remove factory A and produce everything in factory B?

[hazy bison]

Leave factory A, start over without breaking it

[cunning siren]

Don't move, use the depot uploaders to support you as you make the new base

[silk ocean]

Which I think was about 20 EUR at that exchange rate

[cunning siren]

Once the new base "is up" THEN do whatever to existing production

[solemn relic]

okay thanks

[silk ocean]

Consider yourself lucky --> Google --> "convert 30 GBP to CAD" --> 56.15 Canadian Dollar. If they are 45 bucks.. yea well enough said

It will never go on sale so the longer you leave it, the more you seemingly pay as so far these are far above inflationary rises

Future might change ofc

[peak kelp]

I just realized… I have two monitors. I can play satisfactory and factorio simultaneously..

[meager fern]

well all the better for me that i plan to leave it for the rest of my life

[silk ocean]

I doubt that but it's a cool story

[meager fern]

you doubt that i wont ever want to play it?

[cunning siren]

Dayum... I thought I was a degenerate gamer 😆 <joke>

[peak kelp]

Not degenerate. Efficient. 🤣

[cunning siren]

Yea, my bad

[silk ocean]

If you have a taste for epic factory builders then yes

[meager fern]

i play satisfactory very casually thats about as far as i go. i've never claimed to be a factory enthusiast

[cunning siren]

I'm also jelly your hardware is that beefy

[frozen shoal]

GIVE ME SOLAR POWER NOAW

[silk ocean]

You might spiral into more love in the future, who knows

[frozen shoal]

PERV.

[cunning siren]

My CPU would 💩 it's 👖 if I tried to run two games at once

[peak kelp]

You see, it’s probably not. But I’m still going to do it. And when I get to a point where I need to AFK resources in both I play Helldivers. Why? Because I want to cook

[meager fern]

seeing as how i've had satisfactory since near the beginning of the games life, and never gotten past oil because i dont like dealing with the numbers, i doubt it

[frozen shoal]

no it would. just dedicate cores to each game.

[cunning siren]

I've only got 4x at 4.2GHz though so... not much to split up

[silk ocean]

Would tend to agree, then why are you playing it at all. Find a genre that you like, clearly this isn't it

[frozen shoal]

that can run 2 games easily. fuck in the early 00s I ran dual wow. you're over thinking.

if ppl can figure out how to stream youtube on 56K modems. you can figure out how to dual game on ur pc.

[cunning siren]

Wow is a joke for requirements though, I have to do "backflips" to make Satisfactory run 60 FPS

[frozen shoal]

nah end game is jsut tedious and requires more parts/machines than really needed.

[cunning glade]

Chat I'm thinking about the game at work and after I get my aluminum plant what do I do prolly just unlock most of the milestones that need it and see what they give?

[frozen shoal]

not iin early 00s it wasn't. in todays age yes. what's your gpu?

[silk ocean]

End-game in a Factory Builder is always about scale and optimization

[peak kelp]

Oh yeah I’m in early coal/steel phase, how much am I gonna wanna die once I get to aluminum? That’s when a friend of mine quit

[cunning siren]

GTX 1080 (Non-TI)

[cunning glade]

0 aluminum is easy

[frozen shoal]

that's your issue right there, not the cpu. you're bottlenecking your system with a 2352529385-238 year old GPU

[cunning glade]

I'm just making 3900/min

So it's a tad harder

[meager fern]

well i was starting to kind of enjoy it, but now i have nothing but a sour taste in my mouth. so i guess i'll take your advice

[cunning siren]

I'm ultra poor so... 🤷 preaching to the quire

[silk ocean]

A year with a hypen in it does not compute correctly in our current calendar system

[cunning glade]

The question is what do with the aluminum and thats what I need too figure out

[peak kelp]

Oh good. I also hear things about nuclear pasta or smth?

[cunning glade]

Are u there yet?

If not then don't worry about it

[silk ocean]

Don't eat sour things then. This makes no sense.

[peak kelp]

Ok

[cunning glade]

Play the game have fun

Explore always explore

Automate things

[white dawn]

Nuclear Pasta's just a resource like everything else. It's a pretty involved process from start->finish (as are many other later-game resources), and the final step is extremely copper-hungry, but in the end it's just another production line

[cunning glade]

Everything will seem overwhelming rn

Cuz u don't know what stuff is focus on making what u have unlocked

[frozen shoal]

why no matter how much one makes, one still feels poor? (just a question in general)

[cunning glade]

The way the world works

[cunning siren]

With satisfactory yes GPU is eaten almost all the time and Factorio is single threaded CPU bound so it may work 🤷

[white dawn]

If you are still enjoying the game to some degree, it's possible you can enable Advanced Game Settings to bypass some things which could be annoying you

Like you can turn on "no power required" and "no build cost" and such; just focus on building some factories and the like

Though yeah, if you don't like building up the later-game-part factories then it's possible the lategame just isn't your cup o' tea

[silk ocean]

I haven't seen so much evidence of this in 1.1 on the workstation or the local server

[frozen shoal]

facts.

[cunning siren]

It sounds like you are saying in your situation the results you receive with your specific hardware are different 🤔

[silk ocean]

I'll post some SS of my "mega" fac

[frozen shoal]

I hope an update is in the works that makes more use of uranium stuff and waste. im having a hard time staying focus with any endgame part making. needing 40000000 machines for one end game part is a bit much. I just hit 300K+MW of power I wonder if I can hit 1GW

[frozen shoal]

my mega factory tuurned into a drone port basically

[cunning siren]

It sounds like you are running a megafactory and assume I am as well so my CPU "should" be the issue vs. GPU... I don't megafactory so... 🤷

[white dawn]

Updates to production lines/recipes are extraordinarily unlikely at this point, btw

[frozen shoal]

unless they have stopped development I don't see this being true. I can totally see them adding things.

[silk ocean]

No I don't use drones xD

[silk ocean]

in #screenshots server and client, nothing is contrained, even in this megafac. Admittedly some fast hardware on the client and server

[frozen shoal]

I have almost 80 of them

[silk ocean]

Embrace the train XD

[frozen shoal]

I tried and said, nope drones easier

[cunning siren]

24x cores at 4.9GHz vs.... 4x cores a 4.2GHz 😆 your computer is like 7x of my computers

[silk ocean]

Which one, the server or client?

[white dawn]

They've explicitly said they don't want to touch recipe/resource/map balance again, and that they have basically zero interest in adding new tiers/phases

[silk ocean]

Client I guess xD

[cunning siren]

13900K

[white dawn]

I mean, time will tell, of course, but they've reiterated that a few times. I'd expect future updates are far more likely to be the sort of QOL-focused stuff that we saw in v1.1

[silk ocean]

Oh the client, yeah that chews through it, but the server is key - it does a huge amount of compute work

[white dawn]

Remember that if they do touch production chains and recipes and such the entire map's resources would have to get balanced properly to account for the new/changed stuff, which could have knock-on effects for other seemingly-unrelated recipes, and game flow, and all that

They spent a lot of time finalizing the map/resources/etc for v1.0, and they don't want to have to break compatibility on folks' factories now that the game's out of EA

(Again, time will tell! They've changed their minds in the past)

[cunning siren]

You could probably run the server on the 13900K while you game 😆

[silk ocean]

Probably but I shutdown my workstation when I sleep, I never shutdown servers and they run the fac, besides the server is a 12600K and pretty fast too

I've learned that a client<-->server compliment, even if playing single player, is the best solution. Offload shared compute to the server, don't suffer from primary game thread pauses during autosaves (all that is offloaded to the server), it just works better as a pair

But you do need two good systems

[cunning glade]

How needed are radio control units

Should I just automate one for the milestone or is making alot of them and train worth

[white dawn]

You can see what recipes+buildables require 'em at the wiki, of course

!wikisearch radio+control+unit

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=radio+control+unit

[cunning glade]

Ah very useful

Ight I'll automate them and actually drone them around more than likely

[cursive totem]

aw man im slowly getting the hang of signals

if you get around the quirks they really are awsome

[cunning siren]

Share with us the quirks

[cursive totem]

i still suck at laying down tracks tho lol

[cursive totem]

cant place them on the right side sometimes, you have to manually split the track first to then place them. also, if using path signals, all entries to a junction need to have them, you cant combine them with block signals.
also, you cant place them on splits sometimes, so you have to place them a bit ahead of them

those are the ones that mostly bothered me

[cunning siren]

I'm surprised there is not some "Train guide.pdf" like there is for liquids

[reef basin]

given how trains are easy 🤷

[cunning siren]

Easy is relative, walking was hard for every baby until we learned how

[cursive totem]

btw rails transport power for the hoverpack, but is there a way to get it into a power pole as well?

[cunning siren]

Not that I know of besides building a station maybe?

It would be handy to allow power poles to be linked off the tracks IMO 🤔

[prime crane]

hi

[outer hatch]

Hi 👋

[jade frigate]

Do someone know a youtuber named Gursoy? And if so does he have some ready blueprints?

Just to copy and paste

[prime crane]

it is sad day for me😔 i might have reached my cpu's limit with my factories. my fps keeps lowering😭

[cunning siren]

Ooooof

[prime crane]

the fps are the biggest reason i took a 3 months break from satisfactory. 1 week ago i just loaded in, deleted the last factory i did and regained 30fps lol. but looks like i reached max buildings in my main factory

[cunning siren]

It sounds like the FPS issue is CPU bound related? Not much you can do about that besides build small with lots of sloopage 🤷

[prime crane]

no idea what was the cause but i just started a second base next (like 300m) to the main one and things are going better

[cursive totem]

any clue why the bottom path signal doesnt split the block?#screenshots message

[cunning siren]

OH, so it may be GPU then? If that is the case you can do lots of stuff to change that

[prime crane]

my cpu is worse than gpu. ryzen 5 5600x and a nvidia 3060. so the cpu was 100% being overwhelmed

[cunning siren]

Well, dang you have some great looking hardware so... very strange you are experince such issues

[prime crane]

hopefully we will get some optimization updates in the future. and the max item on belt graphic setting will be fixed to actually be able to set it

i mean the game is already greatly optimized but still

[cunning siren]

No idea what the issue may be AND there is a good chance you have other things going on that you can troubleshoot

[junior laurel]

I haven't experienced my holo belts failing to get to 1200 but if they ever do I will write a strongly worded letter . . .

[cunning siren]

Yea, now we got the bandwidth belt measuring device, pretty cool IMO

[white dawn]

There does seem to be the possibility of performance-related issues w/ speeds that get that high

[junior laurel]

Things will burn

[white dawn]

If I megaprint a 100% working 1200/min setup from a fresh AGS save into my 1.0 save (where things are a bit "heavy" for my PC) it starts lagging

[cunning siren]

Pre 1.0 there was a few performance related issues with MK.6 belts that got patched

[white dawn]

Not by a lot, but definitely stops being able to keep up with the 1200/min

[prime crane]

guys what is your avg fps in-game?

[junior laurel]

If my 10200 SAM doesn't get to their <[ⱤɆ₳₦ł₥₳₮łØ₦]> I will kill several more lizard doggos

[white dawn]

(And it's definitely performance-related, so if you're not playing on a potato like me, you may never run into it. :)

[junior laurel]

10199 SAM will result in a genocide

[cunning siren]

~60 FPS mostly, I have to run DX11 cuz GTX 1080 AND use the following setting and procedures to get that: Upscaling Method: TSR | Screen Percentage: 50. THEN set all settings to low besides texture quality: Ultra, and view distance: Far. THEN on every client start I must switch the Fullscreen mode to the "other" full screen mode. And only then will i get 60 FPS 😆. Some bullshit and thats ok with me 🤷

The screen percentage also changes to 75 on every client start 😢 I have to set it to 50 every time

[rugged fjord]

first hard drive of the save, i havent finished the phase one of the elevator and i already found the bolted iron plate recipe, should i take it ?

[prime crane]

okay. thanks. ill check youtube. maybe there might be some ways to get rid of lag. i have also tried vulkan but honestly it works bad. directX12 has to be the best one available. and directX11 has stretched geometry when loaded in😂

[cunning siren]

Oh yea DX11 gets funky mountains in the distance and what not and I gain a lot of FPS for that too

[versed mesa]

The Game is much harder now for me it dont help when something dont flow well

[cunning siren]

OH yea! There was also a Nvidia driver tweak that I did, in Nvidia control panel > Manage 3D Settings > Shader Cache Size: 10 GB

[mortal ginkgo]

no. its just a bit more screws to make faster plates which you dont need.

your very first drives can be as suggested below:

Iron Wire: lets you make wire from iron instead of copper.

Stitched Iron Plate: Asks for wire instead of screws, goes good with above.

Cast Screws: Gets rid of the Rods part of screw making. Great for saving space and power until mid game.

6 inventory slots: Really good.

My mom: She is precious. She will increaee your factory's efficiency alot.

[versed mesa]

How's everyone day been

[mortal ginkgo]

You can also rescan the drive or keep it in library. You dont need to use them.

[junior laurel]

Appointment cancelled same day, gotta wait until the 20th. So could be better :/

[versed mesa]

That sucks

@junior laurel yeah just play some games lol

[prime crane]

ah thanks. ill keep this in mind but ill research abit before trying to change anything. i do not want to ruin something😁

[junior laurel]

Easier said.

[versed mesa]

Yeah you mite have family

[junior laurel]

not what I meant 😅

[cunning siren]

Good on you to do your own looking and finding, I'm not sure you can "break" anything by trying stuff. Most of this can be undone

[reef basin]

it's your choice. Do you like it? Use it.

[versed mesa]

Well a job also lol

[junior laurel]

I was leaning towards being too upset from said appointment to really find enjoyment.
Like I have factorio open right now but I'm only planning things for a multiplayer game I'm waiting for the host to get on

[versed mesa]

Just listen some music

[junior laurel]

Already on it :)

[prime crane]

i have also posted in screenshots the factory that was causing my cpu to melt😂

[versed mesa]

And have some drinks lol

[junior laurel]

🔥 🏀

[versed mesa]

@junior laurel actually ill throw small can of cold beer your way and some wine lol

[junior laurel]

I was saying fireball whisky but sure why not 💀

[versed mesa]

Or gosh I had some fireball few months back

[junior laurel]

Cinnamon and factory baaaybe

[static spruce]

20 minutes to wait and I'll have finished the game

[versed mesa]

What phase 5 ?

[static spruce]

Yup

[versed mesa]

Woah congrats

[static spruce]

90h total to finish the game

[versed mesa]

I dont think it goes further than phase 5 Rip

[junior laurel]

Cinnamon and Saving the day? Much better!
Thank you Pioneer for contributing to Project Assembly™

[versed mesa]

You been playing 90 hours

[static spruce]

Just waiting on the ballistic warp drive to finish, making 5/min rn

[static spruce]

Nah I'd played before in early access

I had around 270h

[versed mesa]

Nice so a new save

[static spruce]

Never went further than phase 3 in those saves though

[versed mesa]

Lol

[static spruce]

Furthest I'd went was doing Fused Modular Frames

[versed mesa]

Ah yes

[static spruce]

In hindsight I might have went overkill on some factories lol....

I'm making like 700 circuit boards/min

[junior laurel]

"Overkill is underrated"

[static spruce]

You can also forego plastic and computers entirely

I only make like 20 computers/min and 900 plastic/min

though my rubber usage is quite high with all the alternate recipes

[junior laurel]

Challenge run:
Zero alt recipes

[static spruce]

Yeah no

No thanks, screw the screws

[cunning siren]

I've done it, not that bad

[junior laurel]

Challenge run:
Bio burners only

[cunning siren]

Ooof

[static spruce]

Good luck using a single particle accel

[cunning siren]

Underclock and lots of sloops

[static spruce]

And that ain't even the first problem

first problem would be manufactures and refineries,

[junior laurel]

Challenge walk:
Never click the sprint button, never put on blade runners

[cunning siren]

Single factory per part with max sloopage would help that challenge

[junior laurel]

Challenge run:
Manual crafting only

[cunning siren]

Ooooof

Can't go very far with that one

[sullen gull]

I mean, that's is pretty hard to do ...

[junior laurel]

I did that one in the alpha when we only had 2 tiers and zero space elevator :)

[sullen gull]

Damn, scroll wins again 🤦‍♂️

[static spruce]

I remember the early access phase where you had to use a loooooooot more crystal oscillator and make them much earlier on

Now you don't have to touch them until phase 4?

[cunning siren]

My doggos give me all I need 😆

For now

[peak wasp]

wtf is wrong with this stupid train

[sullen gull]

Kick it

[cunning siren]

Pull it

[static spruce]

bop it

[steady glade]

you dont have to, but im pretty sure some alts use them in phase 3

[candid ingot]

Why the FUCK can’t I shred Ficsonium fuel rods

[peak wasp]

next stop is unreachable

[candid ingot]

I NEED points

[steady glade]

they're perfect

[peak wasp]

wtf does that mean I have been doing the dumb thing

[candid ingot]

What

[junior laurel]

If anyone needs "factory building music", try the Opus Magnum OST

[sullen gull]

Er ... why not burn them?

[placid stirrup]

Turn it the correct way

[static spruce]

Hmmmm only for crystal computers AFAIR

[candid ingot]

I. NEED. POINTS.

[steady glade]

they are the culmination of FICSIT™ technology

[static spruce]

And you don't need that many at that point, I just automated them at phase 4

[junior laurel]

You don't make ficsonium for points, you make them to get rid of plut waste, if you want points you sink plut rods

[static spruce]

I made like 93 crystal oscillators/min

[candid ingot]

But I want plut plants

But no fic plants

[junior laurel]

That's too damn bad

[sullen gull]

something about cake and eating or something

[candid ingot]

Bro 😭😭😭

[steady glade]

ADA has expressed disdain at the idea of shreding it pretty early on iirc

[candid ingot]

Bro

[static spruce]

I think the biggest bottleneck in my entire factory is my RCU production, I'm only making 36/min

[candid ingot]

They alr plaster their brand on the space elevator after you launch it

[static spruce]

Those things eat aluminium casings like no tomorrow

[sullen gull]

Just burn the ficsonium rods, and make a BWD factory just for sinking 😏

[junior laurel]

I'm only planning for Fic rods because I want to build a banger factory, I care not for points, I care not for power. I only care for big dick energy builds

[placid stirrup]

36 is very respectable but if you need more then you need more

[candid ingot]

What’s BWD?

WAIT

[static spruce]

Well I'm using the OC Supercomputer recipe

[sullen gull]

Ballistic Warp Drives

[static spruce]

Add to that the turbomotors and pressure cubes....

[candid ingot]

Brain wave, I’m gonna turn EVERYTHING into BWD

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[candid ingot]

Unlimited points

[peak wasp]

I keep doing the switch it around bs and it keeps breaking every damn time

[static spruce]

Any pics of what you're trying to achieve?

[sullen gull]

Nooooo, that's to easy ... use the mindforce!

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

OK, so are we having troubles with signals? or just a single train on that track?

[junior laurel]

I need to get back to building my build but I'm scared I'm not fully ... un burnt out... that's a thing that makes sense to say right?

[static spruce]

Just spaghetti TM

[sullen gull]

I feel that.

[unkempt blade]

you should take a break and make a factory cart skate park until you feel ready

[junior laurel]

Like if I load up the game and it feels ew did I just reset my burn out timer?

The only thing I have planned for the factory cart is a 40k reference

[unkempt blade]

games should be fun, don't force it 😄

there's lots of other stuff to do gaming or otherwise if they're not fun

[peak wasp]

a single train on that track

[static spruce]

I didn't care to make the phase 4 & 5 stuff, the rest is more organized lol#screenshots message

[peak wasp]

just keeps spamming oh the next station is unreachable

[sullen gull]

OK, so my first guess would be station direction?

[peak wasp]

I have been playing this stupid station direction game 3 times now

where I fix it...it goes to the next station then complains how it can't get to the next one

[junior laurel]

Well I want to continue the project, but it's a daunting behemoth

[unkempt blade]

can you break it down into smaller projects?

[junior laurel]

I already have 💀

[unkempt blade]

what are you trying to build?

[cunning siren]

Maybe pay attention to if you are enjoying what you are doing, if not, stop

[sullen gull]

zoom in on where the stations are, and then show the time table.

[junior laurel]

#screenshots message

[static spruce]

#screenshots message Finally done GG

[junior laurel]

That's the fucking issue.
I have never finished any project because of this.

So that appointment that was cancelled today was to looking in ADHD.... 🙃

[unkempt blade]

is there a reason it needs to be 40 all at once? Why not make it a smaller goal and repeat when you decide you want to?

doing something that needs like 27k water feels like a self inflicted issue lol

[sullen gull]

Naaaaahh, mass water prod is easy peasy. Especially with autoconnect lol

[junior laurel]

I am using all of the Sloops on the map for this... and later realised I might need to cheat some in to my dismay but I had already started so eccch, I had some left over from when they respawned from updates so technically not cheating

[sullen gull]

Just wish you could blueprint extractors 🤣

[junior laurel]

I... I'mma just throw some things in screenshots

[unkempt blade]

I'm more suggesting if someone is feeling overwhelmed and describing their own project as a behemoth a good way out of the rut is adjusting the goal down a bit

[cunning siren]

Ooof, ok, that sounds rough. Sounds like that appointment reschedule is on your mind too 🤔

[sullen gull]

Ahh, ok, yeah that's fair.

[hardy thistle]

Hello everyone, I have a question I've researched and haven't found an answer for yet. I'm looking for an alternative iron recipe for steel pipes. How can I get them?

[sullen gull]

Go hard drive huntin

Then research them in the MAM

[hardy thistle]

Try until it appears?

Ok ty ☺️

[sullen gull]

Also, it's "best practice" to just leave them in the list.

[peak wasp]

there is literally nothing wrong with this stupid thing wtf

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

This way they don't come up again on next scan

[nocturne condor]

so i got a warning that an animal was getting aggressive, im in a stinger cave so that is to be expected. i turned to fight and.. nothing, the warning was still there but the attack never came, i searched the area as the warning went away and the stinger just.. was gone? i never even saw it

[junior laurel]

#screenshots message
I am putting soo much planning into this build

[placid stirrup]

Could've been above or below you

[sullen gull]

It's backwards. Unless is maybe doing some push system, though wasn't aware that was possible.

[junior laurel]

At this point I can't not have all if those

[peak wasp]

Wait how is it backwards

[cunning siren]

To unlock Diluted Fuel... that alt does not have any MAM requirements like the turbo and rocket fuel alts right? SO maybe I can save up hard drives till phase 4 without unlocking the turbo and rocket MAMs and that will give me a better chance at Diluted Fuel 🤔

[sullen gull]

It should be -----(}[][] ----- where (] is the station, and [] are platforms

[peak wasp]

yeah that's what it's doing

[sullen gull]

Then, it should be loco in front (again, not sure if you can do a push config with a setup like that) and train cars in back

[junior laurel]

I mean I've posted those screenshots back when I first made them back in July... soo

[nocturne condor]

#screenshots message you were correct

[sullen gull]

what, pushing? or setup as i decribed? because it's not... you have [](]

[junior laurel]

"The council will judge you"

[sullen gull]

Ohh, I know THAT cave 😏

[placid stirrup]

Nailed it

[junior laurel]

I love that cave, unironically sentimantal as that is where I first started my project

[nocturne condor]

The council is dead

[cunning siren]

OH this sounds like you may be saying pipes autoconnect as well? 🤔

[sullen gull]

You betcha

[peak wasp]

what do you mean I am confused you put the station that the freight areas

[placid stirrup]

||Rocky desert with the SAM and quartz?||

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

That tree is pretty remarkable for sure

[junior laurel]

While I'm in my screenshots folder.
I bet no one can figure out what all these numbers mean #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

You're a real big Lost fan?

[cunning siren]

I've seen folk saying that every pipe connection between a junction needs to be re-built cuz it will save the pipe length, is that "needed" or just kind of like "when you can". On mouse over with a pipe I can see what they are saying, the pipe is longer than it is on rebuild

[junior laurel]

Womp womp, nah it's all Satis related.. tho those screenshots don't show the full number of the second easter egg ... oops

[sullen gull]

Propaganda imo

[sullen gull]

The round part of the station is the front.

[shy mulch]

it's people who are weird and place things in a strange way then need to replace it with the way normal people did the first time so that it works

[sullen gull]

The freightplat form needs to be BEHIND it..

[junior laurel]

And then there is me

I'mma close my screenshots folder now

[cunning siren]

HOLY shiznat, that must save so much time

And WTF, the size of that bulid is silly

[hardy thistle]

There are some small islands with oil that look like a crater in the ground, but I can't get any machinery to extract it. Do you know why? Do I need to do something?

[sullen gull]

Not my build, that is the wonderful genius of @frail sleet 🙂. I just did the plumbing for the reactors.

[mystic oriole]

first off... just have fun. Understand that there are shenanigans in the game, and you don't have to if you don't want to, to participate in making everything efficient.

[cunning siren]

It's so far in the sky, does that help with performance?

[junior laurel]

It's been a while since I saw Aeryn's name, but I also haven't really talked here for months

[sullen gull]

Heh, the platform spreads from one side of the map to the other 🤣

[junior laurel]

In like 3 years when I'm building reactors can I summon you to help me plumb? 🙃

[cunning siren]

WOh! Trying to block out the sun Dyson sphere style

[sullen gull]

Sure!

[junior laurel]

It will be... interesting plumbing I will say that gestures to the 3 crowns of my converters

[peak wasp]

...I hate trains

[placid stirrup]

My pipe grid going to nuclear
#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

@peak wasp Do those make sense?

[peak wasp]

now it works...fucking thing

[nocturne condor]

blade runner time! finally!

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I don't remember the numbers, but i'm pretty sure it's over 100 reactors

[peak wasp]

now I can finally get to doing my base stuff since all my base stuff works via train

[sullen gull]

And a smathering of other things going on as well

[shy mulch]

My biomass bonanza save continues. Tonight I shall be.... collecting biomass 😄

[frail sleet]

448

[peak wasp]

everything is train based in my base because I hate myself

[cunning siren]

Is there some "advantage" with building so high in the sky?

[frail sleet]

no, it's just very difficult to work around terrain on this scale and easier to tackle a limited set of problems at once

[sullen gull]

#math-and-meta message

[sullen gull]

Nah, just a couple learning curves. You'll get it!

[cunning siren]

Looks clean AF! What is the "goal" in this?

[junior laurel]

In ma plan I have
105 Uran at 240%
224 Plut at 224%
50 Fic at 224%
Hope that won't be a problem :)

[sullen gull]

Lol, talk with @frail sleet 🤣

I was just showing that pipes can autoconnect 🤣

[sullen gull]

You just tell me how much water total for each section, I gotchu 😏

[junior laurel]

60,480
53,760
26,880

[cunning siren]

I'm not sure I can "streach" the auto-connect that far when I try, is there some trick to extending the default max distance?

[frail sleet]

You can autoconnect a 36m pipe onto a ~50m pipe, if your autoconnect bp has a larger pipe in it

[sullen gull]

That's standard distance. Though, and I don't think, but that was when 1.1 was in expiremental, so it could have changed. Also, belts and pipes have different lengths iirc. So, if trying to do a BP with both, you are limited to belt length for AC

[peak wasp]

Lol this is my second train system...I only fucked up this one xD

[sullen gull]

Hey, but now ya know! .. and they say ... Knowing is just half the battle 😏

[nocturne condor]

lets cut down this mushroom.. WHY DID IT GIVE ME WOOD?!

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-guy-thats-crazy-woozy-crazy-scientist-gif-8609893263374809391

[cunning siren]

I'm not sure I'll ever "get into" megabuilds AND I do enjoy watching them on a stream though 🤔. I watched BigBeaverTV do some of that back in the day

[peak wasp]

I thought half the battle was creating a base

[sullen gull]

More like ... 1/3 of it? 🤣

[peak wasp]

Because I ended up making this cool facility and having to renovate it so many times

[sullen gull]

Lol, I feel that one

[junior laurel]

That is a lignum fungus

[frail sleet]

lugnu balls haha

[junior laurel]

Mother fuck lignum is wood in Latin >:(

[cunning siren]

got em

[junior laurel]

ligma lignum >:/

[sullen gull]

@junior laurel , so, that's 470 extractors @250 and one underclocked. Or, you could "over feed" a tad and just do 471 @250 for 141,300m^3/min

And basically, 236 mk2 pipes at the end of the day 🤣

[stoic flicker]

chad

[junior laurel]

Each flavour of reactor will likely be in different locations 👀

[sullen gull]

That's fine. Can divvy it up. Just let me know when you gotta plan Stan.

Now time to mess with some python and see if I can't figure out how to transfer the color preset table between saves 🤣

[junior laurel]

I was planning the Fic reactor at the top right of the map were the void is. . . so hugging the OOB death wall, but that's just a broad idea

[sullen gull]

Lol, I run pipes all across the map 🤣 . So, shouldn't be an issue to get them where they need to go "cleanly"

And, I'm assuming you'll want to mesh the ongoing "theme" ?

[junior laurel]

Si

[limpid cairn]

is anyone using drones to transport uranium?

[sullen gull]

That one will be your bag mostly 🤣

[sullen gull]

Yep

[junior laurel]

Wait what do you mean by "ongoing" ?

Cuz I have the SAM theme and, everything else will be it's own thing

[limpid cairn]

How many drones do you use for normal and impure nodes ?

[junior laurel]

I will also being using drones to fly uran to my reactors :)

[candid ingot]

Does overclocking scale power output exponentially for generator buildings?

[sullen gull]

Ahhhh ok my bad, I was under the impression that was the theme for the whole map. My bad

[limpid cairn]

since atm, one normal node gives me 316 uranium per minute with one drone

[junior laurel]

I've namely been working on the SAM stuff so I can see where you got that from 😅

[limpid cairn]

And every impure one gives me 256 uranium per minute

[candid ingot]

Or is it liniarly?

[junior laurel]

I need to find an actual theme for the reactors, FIC might lean into gothic to go with the 40k reference ;3

[sullen gull]

Then that should give your answer. It all depends on your build. Mine was only using 300/min, so one was enough for me.

[limpid cairn]

I’m using 2100 per minute 🙏🙏🙏

If the drone port isn’t full I shouldn’t place more drones right ?

Ah wait nvm the drone port is completely full on the other side

[sullen gull]

You can also adjust how the drone loads as well I believe. But, from things that I have read/seen, it's just much more "stable" when not using drones to move ore, especially in large quantities.

[limpid cairn]

Someone told me to use drones for uranium instead of trains because you only have impure / normal nodes

That’s why I’m using drones

[sullen gull]

Another thing, always factor in the 102 second load time for the drone (docking, loading, takeoff), And, the efficiency is supposed to increase with distance.

[cunning siren]

One of mah doggos got out somehow? 🤔

[sullen gull]

I'm convinced they're diggers... I mean, they gotta be, how else do they "sneak off" to go find things and bring em eh?

[limpid cairn]

Why are drones such a nightmare

[feral geyser]

Drones are cute 🥺 look like little owls

[white dawn]

Any of the available logistics options would work. A train carrying radiation will temporarily irradiate areas as it drives by, but that's honestly not that big of a deal

(That said, at that stage of the game it's difficult to argue with the nearly-infrastructure-free benefits of drones, even if you have to use a few ports)

[limpid cairn]

I’m using 35 ports atm

for 2k ish resources

[cunning siren]

I know it's somewhat pointless in some situations AND I seem to enjoy hoarding massive amounts of stuff in boxes sometimes 😆. It's not like without good reason though. Only with plast and rubber right now as I'm not using them so, why not bulk up 🤷

I also seem to enjoy learning how to be as "lazy" as possible in this game. Like ADA is all: "Sacrifice yourself!" and I'm like "NAH bruh!" 😆

[placid stirrup]

The single-use nature is indeed the biggest drawback. You're either planning for a wide area to accommodate them (which nearly always just comes from hindsight) or being ok with hilarious clipping.

[limpid cairn]

I somehow managed to split 2100 uranium into 3 800 belts lol

[ebon marten]

doubt that, wait till the backlog stops

[limpid cairn]

The backlog goes through the entire map 😆

also idk why I have backlog since the belts were always attached to a awesome sink

[ebon marten]

800*3 is 2400 not 2100

[limpid cairn]

Im aware that’s why it’s funny

[cunning glade]

Chat

If I'm making aluminum should I just make the ingots and train them around

[ebon marten]

i really need to make a better factories. just got to computers and only got some basic stuff semi automated. havent even got fuel automated yet which ill need to make a more permanent factory that i can rip down later in the game

[cunning glade]

Or turn it into the casing or whatever there called

[ebon marten]

whats the conversion rate?

[limpid cairn]

Make casings and sheets in the factory directly

Unless you don’t want to import copper

[limber plaza]

u dont need copper with the alt recipe or am i wrong?

[limpid cairn]

Wrong, the alt recipes add copper (at least for casings)

[limber plaza]

nvm its quarts right?

[limpid cairn]

!wikisearch aluminium ingot

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=aluminium+ingot

[limpid cairn]

You can cut out silica with alts if you meant that

[limber plaza]

it removes needing silica so yeah quarts for ingot but produces less

[limber plaza]

yes thats what i meant

forgot what it cut off ma b

im stuck trying to make this rocket fuel factory

not sure what im doing never done it before

turbo fuel into rocket fuel correct? in a blender

[limpid cairn]

Yes

[limber plaza]

trying to figure out how much i need i have 4 nodes of oil here 2 pure 2 normal

isnt there an alt that uses turbo fuel in the blender to produce more

[placid stirrup]

You need very little oil to get a metric frickton of R fuel

[limpid cairn]

Satisfactory tools

[feral geyser]

There is an alt that let's you make rocket fuel directly in a blender

[placid stirrup]

Just for regular fuel (diluted recipes)

[feral geyser]

Fuel, coal, sulfur, and nitrogen gas to make Nitro Rocket Fuel

[limber plaza]

was waiting for u for the diluted fuel for help lol

[feral geyser]

Oh shit lol

[limber plaza]

the blueprint u gave me confusing me

[limpid cairn]

That bad!!!

[limber plaza]

i dont have nitrogen unlocked yet so i cant use that recipe yet

[limpid cairn]

You need nitrogen for rocket fuel lol

[cunning siren]

I like lazy rocket fuel at the cost of more sulfur that I'll never use 🤷

[limber plaza]

thought u needed sulf acid

well im stupid

[feral geyser]

Nitric acid

[limber plaza]

nitric yeah

i dont need nitrogen

[limpid cairn]

That needs nitrogen

Water + iron plates + nitrogen = nitric acid 🤔

[limber plaza]

what where im confused

[limpid cairn]

Tier 8

Particle enrichment or something

[limber plaza]

ahhh ok i read the recipe wrong ma b

[shy mulch]

Got everything set up to fully automate phase 2, just need to collect about 10k wood then I can turn it all on and watch the magic happen

[limber plaza]

ive never gotten to make this my b its soo much im confused

[limpid cairn]

it’s not really confusing you just add nitric acid to the turbo fuel

[limber plaza]

so i should just setup turbo fuel and add nitric later for better power

[shy mulch]

What you trying to make? Rocket fuel?

[limber plaza]

yes that was the plan

need power before i make aluminum factory

[shy mulch]

I find nitro rocket fuel alt to be really nice

It skips the turbo fuel step

[limber plaza]

ohhh ok ima use it then ill wait till i unlock that ima make a diluted fuel factory instead for now

[shy mulch]

Check it out on the wiki

[fossil fern]

anyone down to start a world with me? I'm new

[limpid cairn]

#1201555265942724758

[feral geyser]

there is a spot in the corner where there are two pipes, a blue one and a black one. hook water up to the blue one, and crude up to the black one

[shy mulch]

!wikisearch rocket+fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[shy mulch]

@limber plaza

[limber plaza]

should i use mk1 or 2

[dense violet]

Of?

[limpid cairn]

Pipes

[feral geyser]

mk1, it's all slow input

[dense violet]

Oh someone else’s bp

[limber plaza]

no i meant like the blueprint but i noticed one is packaged the other is unpackaged

[feral geyser]

the mk1 blueprint uses refinery and packager, and the mk2 uses blender. Mk2 is also faster for more output

[limber plaza]

ohh ok ima try the blender one

[feral geyser]

i also reclocked it for a slower, non-powersharded version

[limber plaza]

didnt notice how tall it was wondering if i shouldve put it lower to the ground also where do i put the water again? i dont see a blue pipe or black

found it

[feral geyser]

this one is meant as like a stand-alone depot, but if you want one that is more tileable in a factory, let me know

[limber plaza]

gonna have to replace it lower to the ground thats hella high to pipe all the way up lol

nah its good ima place down 3 of em rn

gonna try ot make it organized

[feral geyser]

you can adjust the input pipes all you like

everyone has their own style

everything else is all tuned though, and if you do move machines, make sure to copy thier clocks

[timid wraith]

Does anyone know of the top of thier head what I should automate as "building resources"? Like quarts for signs and stuff

Because im quickly in a situation where most of the stuff I use needs to be part of a larger factory, so I dont have stuff for building

[cunning siren]

Flower birds just chillin'

[feral geyser]

leave the stuff you ahve for your building mats and make another bigger factory for the new parts

damn straight its not

[limber plaza]

whoops cant sent that link

[feral geyser]

@limber plaza never mention fandom wiki in here

[limber plaza]

wrong website lol i was on the tools

there a list on there for building items but it all depends on what ur building

[cunning siren]

SO quick search seems > codex as I can instantly type what I want AND can not in codex 🤔

[limpid cairn]

I managed to make drone spaghetti

😄

[limber plaza]

how? thats possible

[white dawn]

I do think that the codex itself would do well to focus the search bar when you first open it

[cunning siren]

Many other menus with a search bar becomes active when space bar is hit AND not with codec!?!?!

[limpid cairn]

I have no clue but EVERYTHING is so confusing and messed up

Someone save me 🙏🙏🙏

[cunning siren]

Game be quirky AF sometimes

[cunning glade]

So I'll need copper too?

Uhhhh I see

[feral geyser]

yeah, alclad casings is a good recipe too

same copper and aluminum can get you hella sheets and casings

[cunning glade]

Well aluminum rod doesn't use those it uses ingots

[feral geyser]

correct

[cunning glade]

Right so I'd still want some ingots?

[feral geyser]

i thought we were talking about just casingsa and plates

[limpid cairn]

No, turn everything into casings and sheets

[feral geyser]

you could also do aluminum beams and stuff

[limpid cairn]

Mainly casing tho

[cunning glade]

Well yes but I'm making a big aluminum factory

[feral geyser]

make FMF all the way out of aluminum

[cunning glade]

So trying too figure out if I should just train the ingots or not

Cuz it's 3900 a min

So I'd need prolly alot of copper

Iirc Rocky desert has a good amount of pure copper nodes

[limber plaza]

i always build that factory -800,-330 everything u need is nearby

[frail sleet]

train ore to aluminum+water, make it into pure copper onsite

[sleek peak]

should i get Stitched iron plate or bolted iron plate?

[limpid cairn]

You don’t if you use pure cooper

[feral geyser]

pure copper is cool, but it's so water hungry

[limpid cairn]

STITCHED IRON PLATESSSS

[feral geyser]

i like leached a lot better

[limpid cairn]

???

400 Water to convert 600 copper ore into ingot

[sleek peak]

oky thx

[feral geyser]

i guess the difference isn't as stark for copper, but for iron, it's a massive difference in water cons between leached and pure

[limber plaza]

i can add packagers to the ends and branch it out to gens right?

[feral geyser]

Iron+water(+sulfur):ingots
35+20:65 for pure
35+7(+7):70 for leached

Copper+water(+sulfur):ingots
18+12:45 for pure
18+10(+10):44 for leached

[feral geyser]

sure, why not

but then you gotta sink the containers

if you want something for use with fuel, i have one better

[limber plaza]

thats what i thought it was for lol ma b

[feral geyser]

nah, this one is just for making packaged fuel with no excess of byproduct

if you want fuel to burn, i have a different one

[limber plaza]

ahh ok still nice ima add this one elsewhere with an impure node or normal node i have it on a pure one i rather use to burn for power

[feral geyser]

yeah, it's decent if you just wanna package fuel for a truck station or drones or somethings

[limpid cairn]

Show me your ways of using a lot of water for pure iron, I’m using like 60 refineries to process my water byproduct

[limber plaza]

yeah ima use it for drones and trucks

[feral geyser]

water byproduct gets looped and never goes to anything else

[limber plaza]

i have 4 trucks going rn with quickwire and frames

[limpid cairn]

It’s hard to loop water back into nitric acid production when it’s 5km away

[feral geyser]

what porduct?

[limpid cairn]

Dissolved silica

basically

[feral geyser]

yeah, so you loop the waste water from the silica back into the blenders using the water

they consume 100/min and output 80/min, so you feed them with 20/min

[ionic forge]

Is 10 Versatile frames per minute a big goal or small goal

[feral geyser]

that's pretty solid

[ionic forge]

Oh okay, im kinda sinking all of my steel

[limpid cairn]

I either did the math wrong or something in my factory isn’t working properly, I need 225 water per minute to create nitric acid while I get 1250 waste water 💀

[cunning glade]

I'm making mine rocky desert no clue those cords without being home

[limpid cairn]

Well, I’m 100% producing more than 900 waste water that’s for sure

[cunning glade]

I see

Water is so easy too deal with recipes being water hungry don't really matter imo

[limber plaza]

ahh ok i always spawn north ive never played in desert or built anything there lol

[cunning glade]

Not talking the dune one yk that right

North is right next too rocky

[limber plaza]

wait where

[cunning glade]

#screenshots

[limber plaza]

ohh yeah i build my aluminum in crater lakes everythings close by somewhat

[limpid cairn]

The best place for alumina is imo the swamp

[cunning glade]

Fuck the swamp

[limpid cairn]

There’s basically nothing there but bauxite, oil and copper

[limber plaza]

hate that place

getting chased down by stingers the whole time i hate it there loll

[limpid cairn]

thats why you put the factory above ground level and off shore

[limber plaza]

true

[limpid cairn]

GUYSS why are there cows dancing outside of my factory

[feral geyser]

You make the nitric offsite, it sounds like?

[limpid cairn]

Yup

[feral geyser]

Then the nitric goes into refineries with quartz, and you get crystals and dissolved silica.

Then you put water, limestone, and DS into a blender

And silica and water comes out.

[limpid cairn]

yup

[feral geyser]

So you loop the water that comes out back into the input of the same silica blender.

[limpid cairn]

Oh I forgot the silica recipe also needs water 😭

Mb

[feral geyser]

Yeah, if you do it right, waste gets recycled, and you only need to supply the difference (100-80 = 20/min / machine)

[limpid cairn]

Or you use the waste water efficiently and create 4000 ish iron ingots per minute

[cunning siren]

What inhaler to y'all toke on most these days? Nutritional seems like the best deal 🤷

[limpid cairn]

Im pretty sure im sinking like half of it atm

[limpid cairn]

Proud to still not have the inhaler recipe 😁

[cunning siren]

Oh? Tell us more plz

I mean... bacon and shrooms don't grow back so 🤷 limited supply on those recipes

So maybe protein inhaler 4 teh win

But that costs coupons essentially 🤔

[limber plaza]

is there alternate recipe for heavy oil?

that produces more

[feral geyser]

Yes

There is Polymer Resin recipe and Heavy Oil Residue recipe.

[limber plaza]

the one that produces 40? is that max output?

[feral geyser]

Yes, 3:4 is the best output for HOR

[limpid cairn]

No you can sloop it 😄

[feral geyser]

I mean, yeah...

[limber plaza]

obviously lol

trying not to sloop anything i tend to sloop everything

im trying to make a factory with the diluted fuel in blender

[limpid cairn]

HOR -> FUEL -> BURN

[limber plaza]

yeah ik that was just seeing if there was something to produce more heavy oil

[limpid cairn]

If you don’t want to use the polymer resin sink it or turn it into plastic and rubber for personal use

[limber plaza]

ima sink it i have a factory for packaged already

[limpid cairn]

sadly there isn’t, but that’s why we should buff refineries

[feral geyser]

The actual best option for Poly Res, if you aren't gonna use it, is to pump water and turn it into fabric, then sink it. Gives a massive boost to point value.

[limber plaza]

ill try to add it to what im building rn somewhere

[feral geyser]

Source: math

#satisfactory message

[cunning siren]

It's handy that SCIM lets you roll back the nutritional researches so they don't show up on object scanner. Makes it faster to cycle through the menu 🤔

[limber plaza]

i was wondering how u made those clear floors but i figured it out i be trying to make things look nice at the same time but ive never used any of the architectural stuff

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, I love glass frame foundations

[cunning siren]

They do look pretty, they eat crystal though right? I don't have enough spheres for that

[feral geyser]

No, they are steel beams and concrete

[cunning siren]

OH they do not

Welll, in that case

[feral geyser]

You'd think they would cost silica, but no

[cunning siren]

Oooof 10 coupons... worth it

I use the framed floors in my panic room, may as well pay for it. It's the only roof and floor that allows me to shoot through it

[wicked minnow]

how do you get a ratio of 36 concrete perfect for the encased industrial beam?

per minute

like you can get 30 and 60 etc but how do you get 36 per minute

[limpid cairn]

Overclocking and underclockinh

[limber plaza]

i overclocked my assembler because im making 45 beams per minute with alt recipe

[cunning siren]

OH is the "goal" to get a ratio where there is no over or underclocking here? 🤔

[limber plaza]

i used a smart splitter and used the overflow for something else

[outer hatch]

Option 1: You don't, and use a manifold.
Option 2: There is a 1:5 balancer pattern that exists, I think it involves loops though.

[plain gate]

one loop, you split into 2x3=6 and loop the 6th back

[feral geyser]

It's basically just a 1:6 with one output looped back through a priority merger at the front

[outer hatch]

Do note however, that means you have to have one part of the belt system - namely, the belt after the merger between the 1/6 feedback and the original full input, and the first splitter - that will be at 120% of the capacity of your input.

Thus, you can't 1:5 a full Mk6. (Which isn't your use case, I know).

(You can technically 1:5 a full Mk6, by either splitting it in two, 1:5 both haves and merging each output - or by not looping the 6th 1/6th, but instead pushing it through its own 1:5, and, again, merging the outputs.)

[timid wraith]

Hey guys, Im using 60 per min and giving 60 per min, yet last machine is not filling up? im using splitters for each machine, so im not really sure whats going on

[outer hatch]

The recipe is selected, the power is on?

[timid wraith]

Yeah, its just not getting the resources nessasary

like, it gets enough, then uses it, waits about 1 second, and then starts again

never going past the needed amount for 1 of the product

[outer hatch]

... I suggest opening a post on #1038092680493801533 , because I think we're going to need screenshots.

[timid wraith]

Gotcha man! thank you

[shrewd palm]

probably just the manifold taking a little bit to fill up

[outer hatch]

My understanding is that there is a full belt to be processed.

[shrewd palm]

yeah full belts will always take a while

could throw a stack of the input item into each machine and that should fix it

or some overflow stuff with smart splitters

[nocturne condor]

so what exactly does the dimensional depot do? I put an item in and hten i have access to that item from anywhere? is it like one item at a time input or can i do stacks at a time for the 15 minutes?

[shrewd palm]

it holds one stack of an item inside the cloud and then one inside the depots personal inventory (the size of the cloud depot can be increased by research in the MAM)

[nocturne condor]

OH wait it says 15 per minute, i thought it was one item per 15 minutes

[shrewd palm]

and it uploads at a certain rate (fairly slow, although it can be upgraded by both research in the MAM and placing down more depots for that item)

max i think is 240/min/depot

[nocturne condor]

yeah i already did research to increase it to 30 a minute

[limber plaza]

is satisfactory tools outdated i dont see 1.1 update its giving me a wrong production output

[shrewd palm]

iirc no recipes or anything were changed with 1.1, so no need to update it

[limber plaza]

ahh ok

[shrewd palm]

just some building stuff and apparently a bunch of bugs

[arctic timber]

is your name.. ||grass||..

[shrewd palm]

i know its terrible

[arctic timber]

that name jump scared me

[shrewd palm]

i touched it once and now its my life mission to give therapy to anyone else that touches it and make sure that they never do it again

[limber plaza]

either im wrong or maybe calculator is using power shards im not sure

i have 6 refineries down turning into HOR recipe but on the website its telling me i need 3.75 refineries

im making 300 diluted fuel

[real shale]

Scim assumes 100% and underclocking unless you tell it otherwise

[shrewd palm]

same with all other calculators

[limber plaza]

do i have to change the limit or? im confused on how to use the calculator tbh

i input the recipes that worked just the rest isnt working correctly

[shrewd palm]

you could try something else like modeler

tbh i think modeler is better for more complicated things because you understand whats happening a lot more

[peak wasp]

So I ran hyper tubes under my train route...didn't finish the project yet...but ATM it tosses you into the abyss

I like to use hyper tubes as emergency transportation networks

[feral geyser]

transportation straight into an emergency

[cunning siren]

Spiderbros on you tail? Find some hogs 😆

[sullen gull]

Have you play with the blueprint designer at all to make a rail/hypertube setup perhaps? 😏

[limber plaza]

i see what u mean helped alot more i got the blueprint now

thanks bro

[languid marlin]

Modeler is honestly fun on its own imo

[shrewd palm]

no problem

[languid marlin]

I have almost as much fun there as ingame

[limber plaza]

nah yeah it is lol i was just confused on how to connect em but i got it

[shrewd palm]

i think the difference between tools and modeler is following instructions vs making your own

[sullen gull]

Couple things to note, You CAN rearrange inputs and outputs, and outposts/blueprints are 🤌

[shrewd palm]

make sure you go up into the settings cog (top right corner) and turn on manual mode

otherwise loops can get a little bit broken

[sullen gull]

Prioity splitters/mergers hellp with that. Also, loops tend to freak when then don't have an outside source I've noticed.

[shrewd palm]

although with manual mode it can give you negative numbers, but thats just it saying that you're not making enough

[languid marlin]

Anything like a 1:3 oil:product setup is really finicky to show in the modeler but I find it works well if you have overflow worked out

[shrewd palm]

adding another source and the aforementioned priority splitters/mergers should fix them tho

[sullen gull]

I just keep mind on the default, stop it when i open, and then go to where I want, delete and renter a number on a miner or something and poof, all calc'd

[nocturne condor]

Uh i just found a crashed pod, it wanted biofuel but it was already loaded up with biofuel enough to open the door? im sorry what?

[limber plaza]

i dont see the manual mode

[sullen gull]

You shouldn't have to load anything, just so long as it's in your inventory.

[shrewd palm]

top right corner>settings>general>should be right there

[languid marlin]

It's always funny when early game droppods have their requirements on the ground by them

[sullen gull]

You will see 117/4, and the 4 is how much it needs, and the 117 would in what's in inventory.

[shrewd palm]

i think i am almost at the point where i have more hours on modeler than satisfactory

[nocturne condor]

this is the weird thing, the amount loaded in was 198, i only have 188 at the time. this is very confusing

[rigid glen]

This means you had the requirment in your invenotry, just 9open it

[limber plaza]

not there accidentally hit the light mode thoe shit blinded me lol

[shrewd palm]

the wonders of leaving it open 24/7

rip

[sullen gull]

Yeah, It's pretty much open 23/7 and I am at 3738 on steam 🤣 🤷‍♂️

[shrewd palm]

the dropdown next to the "calculator" option

default i think is full

[terse kindle]

Can miners be slooped?

[shrewd palm]

nope

[terse kindle]

dang

[shrewd palm]

2400 off a pure node might be a bit much

[sullen gull]

lol, yet I keep seeing the strange blueprints on SCIM 🤣

[limber plaza]

got it and it also fixed my factory lol numbers were all different

[nocturne condor]

I just got wombo comboed to death, i got hit by one of the little flying things the hatchers make and fell off a cliff, i landed on another cliff just to before i can react be headbutted to fall damage level death (with blade runners on) down another cliff

[limber plaza]

3 boxes are read thoe

[shrewd palm]

also as tinker mentioned outposts are VERY useful with modeler, with them you can plan out entire save files by treating them as sort of pocket factories

[limber plaza]

yeah im saving everything i build here now lol

[shrewd palm]

modeler will probably take a little bit to figure out, although for red machines i think thats just because there isnt enough or something

[limber plaza]

only factory i have memorized is the one i build for aluminum

[shrewd palm]

if you build from the bottom up there wont really be any problems with red boxes/negative numbers

[sullen gull]

Lol, I always build top down 😏

[limber plaza]

ohh i build top to bottom smh

only one red box now thoe

[shrewd palm]

you can do whatever its just a little weird sometimes

[limber plaza]

too much heavy oil going into blenders thats why

[cunning siren]

Panic room works well for crafting while AFK too 🤔

[limber plaza]

fixed it i didnt connect water to one blender and couldnt see it smh

time to build 15 fuel gens

what would be the best way to organize 15 fuel gens?

[rigid glen]

In groups of 5, assuming your source pipe is split into three for balance

[limber plaza]

makes sense slip em evenly

[sullen gull]

In a pentadecagon 😏

[limber plaza]

im trynna get creative thats what i was thinking lol

[rigid glen]

my current fuel gen build runs 10 gens from 5 refineries, keeping the fuel source split into 2 was the only way to keep all 10 gens full

[feral geyser]

I have a 3-gen blueprint if you want that too.

[rigid glen]

I assume it's sort of the same with 15

[feral geyser]

Fits in a 5×5

Build 5 of those.

[sullen gull]

Don't feel that was meant for me? 🤔

[feral geyser]

Oh I meant to tag @limber plaza 😭

Listen, anyone can have any of my blueprints if they want them, it's fine.

[sullen gull]

You so niiiice

[limber plaza]

send em all brotha lol

i added two fuel gens so im making 500 fuel per minute idk how im gonna get all of it out lol for power

[granite lark]

so I unlocked quickwire, is it not in a constructor or crafting bench?

nvm that was stupid

[white dawn]

If you're ever not sure about a resource, remember that you can look up all its recipes (that you have unlocked) in the codex

Hit o to open the codex itself, or n for a search bar that's also a calculator. :)

[granite lark]

yeah I figured that out
for whatever reason I had electronics minimized
thank you

[peak wasp]

Nope not yet I tend not to use blueprints

[feral geyser]

you really should

they make a lot of repetitive building tasks much more streamlined

like refineries, i have a blueprint that places 3 at a time, with a splitter/merger and belts in and out, and pipe manifolds in and out

then i can just remove whichever parts are not needed for the recipe, upgrade belts to speed, and bang, building is three times faster

and if you really want, you can make the same thing, but with the recipes already queued up in the machine and the right in/outs immediately

[sullen gull]

I do the same, but with just one machine 😛

[feral geyser]

gotta up those numbers

[limber plaza]

ill take all the recipes you have lol

[sullen gull]

With autoconnect too though ... so, when I am done, I just connect power, inputs/outputs, to the whole bank and go 😛

[limber plaza]

they are good just wanna beat the game for once n ill experiment making my own after

[carmine pier]

This game peak factory ❤️

[feral geyser]

lmao, i am not gonna send my whole blueprint library, but if you have some specific ones, i can check if i have them

[silver fog]

Hi everyone, I have a question. I'm about to receive the components for my very first gaming PC and I'd like to know if a 5060 ti 16gb is enough to play without lag.

This is a real question, it's a first for me on PC.

[feral geyser]

yes

should be anyway\

[sullen gull]

It's going to be horrible. Can just send it to me, I'll use for for the Cat's Tv ... 😏

[limber plaza]

i build pcs as a hobby its a great gpu for a first pc 👍

[limber plaza]

was joking ill take certain ones i made basic ones for constructors and assemblers n stuff

[silver fog]

okay thanks everyone 🙂

[limber plaza]

do u guys just put refinerys side by side i place them opposite of each other but forget the holes dont line up looks kinda wierd when i added the piping

[feral geyser]

I usually do them all in a row facing the same direction.

The exception is for recycling plastic/rubber, where i do alternating blocks of plastic, rubber, plastic, rubber, etc. In opposite directions, so that it's easier to feed output rubber into the inputs of the plastic machines adjacent.

[sullen gull]

Or side by side and back to back 🙂

[limber plaza]

this guy lol

does anybody use clean piping

[feral geyser]

Yes

[sullen gull]

Lol, I was being serious though. Sometimes I would run the inputs behind two rows of refineries that are "back to back"

[feral geyser]

Mainly for shortish runs that are long enough to get a gauge, but where it wouldn't look good.

[sullen gull]

I've also done then front facing each other in rows.

I personally always use clean until I actuallly want to "see" the flow.

[limber plaza]

i feel like seeing the flow makes it look better but i like clean mk2 alot

[opaque shadow]

🤔 possibly deranged idea:
Add a fluid input to the foundry, move all "Leached" / "Pure" recipes to it

[feral geyser]

Why?

[opaque shadow]

main issue I want to solve is having too many recipes on refinery

[feral geyser]

...

[opaque shadow]

though ig pure recipes are balanced with the refinery in mind

[sullen gull]

Noone "likes" trying to fit refineries into builds 🤷‍♂️

[limpid cairn]

Buff refineries!!!

[feral geyser]

Speak for yourself 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Oh, you can search through my posts, I use the heck outta some refineries!

I was merely speaking out of turn "for" others 😏

[limpid cairn]

Ngl refineries were perfect if they didn’t have that long chimney 🙏🙏🙏

[opaque shadow]

I don't like having to spam refineries when I want to use pure ingots, I already have 100 of it in my oil plant

[limpid cairn]

100% clock rate?

[sullen gull]

Bloooooprints 🤣

[opaque shadow]

on last playthrough it was 240%

[sullen gull]

3k copper ingots and 6k plus iron 🤣 #screenshots message

[limpid cairn]

why do you need 6500+ iron ingots for your oil plant?

[limpid cairn]

Not enough

[sullen gull]

That's just my "starter area" rebuild 😉 😏

[limpid cairn]

Why did you rebuild it?🤔

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm thinking

Cuz I have all of the alts I currently can

[sullen gull]

This was my third time doing a full though. My initial starter area was a bit of a 'hodge podge' just to get started, and am Going for a "purty" run 🤣

[cunning glade]

So would it be worth leaving just a tad of the ingots for whatever

[limpid cairn]

Make fuel fused heavy modular frames with spare ingots or craft them into tanks for transporting gasses or highly dangerous liquids

[cunning glade]

See the thing is if I don't leave spare I get 2 full belts of casings and sheets

I think I'll just use more aluminum somewhere else for it

There's still a full 600 node I'm not using it can always be trained around

[limpid cairn]

Mk 4 or 5 belts?

[cunning glade]

Mk5

[limpid cairn]

so 1560 casings per minute ?

good luck

Using it

[cunning glade]

Why u say that

Ah fair enough

[limber plaza]

@feral geyser dont think ima be able to use that bp u gave me for gens cuz i need to split them in groups of 5 or actuall i can its 15 so 5 groups of 3

[feral geyser]

yeah 3x5 = 5x3

oop

forgot asterisks do italics

[limber plaza]

if im pushing 300 fuel out mk1 pipe should still be fine right

[feral geyser]

yes, but also risky

[limber plaza]

should i use mk2 so it doesnt clog up

i shouldve built this in a blueprint designer it all fits

refinerys up top blenders under

[feral geyser]

i would