satisfactory

[crisp jackal]

well im just wondering what has changed. i saw the patch notes talking about new cosmetics and optimisations, but is there anything else?

[undone kestrel]

Not really

[feral geyser]

The core of the game is the same, but if you enjoyed that, you will still enjoy it now.

[undone kestrel]

The whole point in 1.0 is that the game is complete

[spark sky]

What I'm trying to do is feed 3 stacks of coal power generators from 4 coal nodes, so I need to merge the coal nodes without slowing the flow to the rate of 1 belt.

[meager fern]

the updates are just optimizations, bug fixes, and some small additions like cosmetics

[feral geyser]

4 identical nodes?

[spark sky]

Yes, 4 normal nodes.

[crisp jackal]

i loved the game, but i would rather wait and see if they add any more content before i give it another go

[feral geyser]

Split one line, merge ⅓ with each of the other ones. Now each line has 1 ⅓ nodes

[shy mulch]

You don't need to merge them at all
Take one of the 4, split it into 3
Then each of those 3 splits, merge with 1 of the other nodes
Done

[feral geyser]

Jinx

[shy mulch]

😛

[spark sky]

Ah, okay, thanks to both of you.

[meager fern]

"you dont need to merge them at all" "merge with 1 of the other nodes"

[feral geyser]

Read it again

[meager fern]

there is still merging, when it was stated that merging wasnt needed at all

[spark sky]

The one in that video had so many mergers that it was confusing.

Plus belts going up and down.

[feral geyser]

Yeah, cuz to get 4 belts into one merger at the end, you need to add another layer and do a 2+2 merge

[shy mulch]

There will always be pedantry and I will continue to ignore it, the point was made and understood and it works, so who cares about the precise wording 🙂

[real shale]

#screenshots message

At least this thing now works somewhat

[spark sky]

Oh, he had stacks of 4 or 5 mergers with one splitter and belts going all over the place.

I think I have the idea now, though.

[shy mulch]

There was probably a good reason to do it the way he did it, but he either didn't explain what that reason was, or you missed it. Either way, it highlights the benefits of solving problems yourself (or with explanation) rather than blindly following a tutorial

[feral geyser]

Yeah, each of the 4 in belts splits into 3, so you have 12 belts inside of the system.
But if you want 3 outputs, 3 mergers only have 9 inputs total, so you gotta build another layer of mergers to handle that

[meager fern]

i havent really done that type of stuff yet, but im assuming that he was probably balancing different different purities of nodes or something similar

[spark sky]

Possibly, it was 5 years ago, too.

[leaden dome]

I’ve only made a few balancers in my time

[spark sky]

I have a blueprint for a vertical load balancer that I use in my biofuel power plant.

[leaden dome]

They seem really simple in theory, multiply out to lcm and divide to output but then I go to build one and I just stare at my monitor like a monkey

[spark sky]

Being able to put splitters and mergers on vertical lifts is great.

[real shale]

Next step is to exploit all the OIL in the north because I didn't realise just how much of it there was

[leaden dome]

YES THIS IS MY FAVORITE THING IM SO GLAD THEY ADDED IT

[shy mulch]

there are situations where it's more complicated than that
what you describe works for low volumes, but the intermediate steps can sometimes end up being throttled by belt throughput caps, that's why more complex systems exist, they account for that

[latent meadow]

does phase 4 bring any new resouces

[feral geyser]

Nitrogen

[latent meadow]

that phase 3

[feral geyser]

Oh

F

[leaden dome]

Bauxite

[latent meadow]

phase 3

[leaden dome]

fr?

[latent meadow]

yes

lol

[shy mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Milestones#Tier_7

[latent meadow]

ty wasist

[outer hatch]

No, Nitrogen is Phase 4 exclusive.

[leaden dome]

Uh no tf it ain’t

I’m lookin at the wiki right now

[latent meadow]

no it not beause i in phase 3 and i have it already

with bauixe

[leaden dome]

As in you walked over to a bauxite node and pulled bauxite from it?

[feral geyser]

Having it is different from "being able to use it"

[latent meadow]

i can use it

[leaden dome]

for what

[latent meadow]

i using it for fused frames

[outer hatch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Nitrogen_Gas :
Unlocked by
Tier 8 - Advanced Aluminum Production OR
Tier 9 - Matter Conversion

[leaden dome]

You’re in phase 4 bruv

Fused frames are phase 4

[feral geyser]

Bro is trying to gaslight us about the phases lmao

[leaden dome]

As is bauxite and aluminum lmao

Nitrogen*

[latent meadow]

Phase 3 t7 alumun

[outer hatch]

"Tier 7 milestones are available starting in Phase 4. "

[feral geyser]

Unless your question is "does completing phase 4 bring any new resouces"

[leaden dome]

dawg you’re trolling

[latent meadow]

that wat i was asking

[leaden dome]

Tier 7 milestones are available starting in Phase 4.

Requirements: Space Elevator Phase 3 completed

[latent meadow]

nyazul

[feral geyser]

Phase 3 finishes at T6. If you are at T7, you are in phase 4.

[feral geyser]

That's not what you said.

[outer hatch]

You guys are using English in a non-standard syntax.

[latent meadow]

when you talkinga bout phase 4

you tralinga bout unlocking it though the elevator

[shy mulch]

Now I don't even understand what was asked lol

[limpid cairn]

Can anyone help me please. I'm trying to walk to the toilet and I keep putting my left foot forwards and my right foot backwards and my body isn't moving. Helpppp I need to get to the toilet

[latent meadow]

it ok wasist

[crisp jackal]

install a hypertube in your home

[leaden dome]

If your objective marker says “complete phase x”, you are in phase x

[teal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/one-foot-in-front-of-the-other-santa-christmas-gif-11300771

[leaden dome]

The phase doesn’t start when it’s complete that would be dumb

[outer hatch]

To answer your question, completing Phase 4 and unlocking Phase 5 doesn't unlock any raw ressource node type, but unlocks new way to combines your ressources to create different building blocks.

[feral geyser]

When you say "does phase 4 bring any new resouces," English speakers are gonna read that to mean, "does (starting) phase 4 bring any new resouces"

[outer hatch]

(Namely, diamonds and Ficsite)

[latent meadow]

i guess when i look ati t

i though that t9 as biing unlocking phase4

[leaden dome]

It technically unlocks a new raw resource but you’re right there’s no new nodes

[latent meadow]

sorry if i miss understaod wat it was syaing

[shy mulch]

Can't believe you went to find that lol

[feral geyser]

No. You have to complete phase 4 to get it.

[outer hatch]

... most people will have unlocked it through the MAM, though.

[feral geyser]

You are all good, you are working outside your native language.

That makes you smarter than me in that way.

[leaden dome]

Excited photonic matter?

[silk ocean]

Belt contamination is the worst XD

[shy mulch]

English is my 2nd language, my 1st language was shitting myself and crying

[outer hatch]

It's not quite a raw ressource, if we're pedantic, but I'll give it you.

[latent meadow]

i just trying to plan for my belts

[leaden dome]

I’m trying to learn Japanese because America sucks balls and Im finna dip to the place where everyone likes the same food I do

[latent meadow]

i hve a main resouce belt and a secodary resouce belt

i didnt know if thre was gonna e a new reouce coming that i was really gonn have to main belt at this point

that wall i was trying to plan for

[shy mulch]

I'd love to learn Japanese, but it looks very difficult. I'll stick mostly to languages that use the same alphabet 😛

[feral geyser]

I know some Spanish, but I wouldn't wanna move to any Spanish speaking country right now.

[latent meadow]

it a beatiful lanuage

[leaden dome]

Yeah learning kanji is like 80% of the challenge

[feral geyser]

Hiragana and katakana aren't so bad

[latent meadow]

form the way i understand it the contex i guess is a lot difent in japanse lanuage

how to use words

[feral geyser]

But still, four different writing systems? Get it together, bro 😒

[outer hatch]

日本語 は ちょっと 難しい.

[leaden dome]

はう、僕わもがく(?)

[feral geyser]

(get a room, you two)

[leaden dome]

ew

[feral geyser]

(we're in a room!)

WELL THEN LOSE SOME WEIGHT

Sorry, my brain is full of pop culture references

[neat narwhal]

A rubber room

[cunning glade]

A rubber room with rats

[leaden dome]

shut

[cunning glade]

And rats

[feral geyser]

Okay, Molly

[cunning glade]

I want a pet rat

They're so cute

[feral geyser]

Yes

[cunning glade]

The 2 year lifespan I can't do tho

I'd get so attached

Same with like a jumping spider

[feral geyser]

Tameable stingers when?

[silk ocean]

Got 2 items in my inventory2depot slots and I keep deleting them but they just keep returning there, bug?

[white dawn]

I saw a video awhile back from someone advocating for having a pet jumping spider. They're in your house anyway, why not know exactly where 1 or 2 of them are? :D

[cunning glade]

Real there so cute just the lifespan I'd hate

[feral geyser]

Plus have you seen their cute little eyes and fangs?? 🥺 yes please 😍

[white dawn]

But yeah, lifespan is rough. Used to have hamsters 'cause they're adorable but it got to be a drag having 'em die relatively frequently

[cunning glade]

I think raccoons are the same

Yeah 2-3😭

[white dawn]

I've still got mild arachnophobia (used to have it pretty bad as a kid) but even I find little house jumping spiders pretty cute. :)

[cunning glade]

Same

Like I don't mind spiders

I have 2 rules as long as it isn't massive and on me I don't mind them

Def not a fan tho

But jumping spiders are so cute and smart tbh

[white dawn]

We're continuing to veer way offtopic here, but quite relatedly: Adrian Tchaikovsky's "Children of Time" is A+; much of the plot centers around a species of jumping spider which evolved into full sapience

[feral geyser]

I love spiders, but I stay away if I don't know what kind it is. And yes, I carry them outside in a cup.

[white dawn]

(sequels are good too but that first one is the best, IMO; it's self-contained so you can just read the one)

[leaden dome]

anyways satisfactory amirite

[real shale]

lovely weather we are having today

[cursive totem]

#screenshots message
why wont it let me place the signal on the right hand side?

[silk ocean]

Do it at the joints

[leaden dome]

Try looking at it from the other direction

[cursive totem]

oh it only works on joints lol

thats sucks kinda

[silk ocean]

Sometimes it works inbetween but it's very hit and miss

[solar hamlet]

I... have lost my rotor factory... my dim storage is refilling so I have a factory somewhere for it... I just have absolutely no idea where 😄

[leaden dome]

It be like that sometimes, especially when you come back after a break

[solar hamlet]

Ive been away for 4 days... and it should be much easier to find it... I have barely reached motors 😄

[silk ocean]

Retrace the production chain I guess XD

[solar hamlet]

I still only have outpost factories... as everything so far has been for my own usage... as I am in phase 1 😄

so its even more confusing how did I managed to lose it 😄

[cursive phoenix]

how do u extract raw oil

[silk ocean]

Maybe you dreamed making it, a hallucination xD

[green fiber]

by getting to Tier 5 and unlocking the Oil extractor

[cursive phoenix]

the dry oil

[green fiber]

What the hell is dry oil

[cursive phoenix]

its in my own language holkdup

[green fiber]

#screenshots for posting pictures

[outer hatch]

Crude Oil ?

[harsh valley]

I'm finished with 3 coal plants

[indigo laurel]

I see it says i see it says build mode right side. Try pressing r

[harsh valley]

I have to go back to the hub, get more cement and cables, build 3 more and connect everything to the second one

[green fiber]

Oh THAT Oil....

You wont be able to use that until you are in the next phase

[solar hamlet]

my rotors keep ticking up... so its being made somewhere 😄

[cursive phoenix]

aw man

whats it used for

[green fiber]

its still just oil

just needs a different extractor type

[cursive phoenix]

i got like 4 pure nodes right next to my factory, lol

[green fiber]

and you wont get that extractor until the next phase

[harsh valley]

Also another question

[cursive totem]

doesnt change. it only works on junctions between tracks, not on continuous ones

[harsh valley]

How do i get my conveyor splitter to divide resources amongst 6 places at once

And give the same amount of stuff

[leaden dome]

Any raw fluid resource can also come from a resource well that needs resource well pressurizer to use

[indigo laurel]

6 = 2 x 3

[cursive phoenix]

ahhh

[harsh valley]

But then the first two will get way more than the last two

[silk ocean]

Follow the trail XD

[indigo laurel]

No

Split in half and then split each half in 3

Also, you should always oversupply

[harsh valley]

Ohh ok

Sounds pretty annoying but no can do

I'll work on it tomorrow

[indigo laurel]

It’s 3 splitters tho. How is that annoying

[harsh valley]

Little space

And terrible planning

[indigo laurel]

Big map

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch balancer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=balancer

[indigo laurel]

Much vertical

[harsh valley]

I can try

After that I'm deleting my entire cement, iron and copper factory

And redesigning it

Because it's pure chaos

[atomic notch]

You must be new here

[white dawn]

Apologies if I missed someone else advocating "manifolds" at you, but: you could also not worry about "balancing" your resources, and just rely on manifolds instead. A basic manifold setup tends to look like this: ```
[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

          [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |
          [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |

[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

Can be extended however long you want

What happens is that at first, the first machine in the line is getting way more material than it needs, so its internal buffer fills up pretty quickly, and then it's the next one in line that's getting more than it needs

Eventually, the input buffers on all but the last two machines are totally full, and all of the machines in the manifold are getting exactly the rate they need

[feral geyser]

Text wrapping messing the whole diagram up

[harsh valley]

I'm going to have to study this because i don't understand anything

[white dawn]

(Assuming that you're feeding the source belt the correct rate of material)

[feral geyser]

A picture is better

[white dawn]

Ah, mobile screen? I suppose. But images also can't be embedded here, so ASCII art for me it remains. :)

[sullen gull]

Well, stop playing on your phone! 😏

[white dawn]

Yeah, since Satisfactory's a PC game, I don't feel bad about ASCII art. :)

[harsh valley]

Would you happen to have an image? Perhaps with actual buildings and not letters

[white dawn]

The wiki presumably does

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[jolly belfry]

This randomly popped into my head, but using the Minecraft Elytra would be SO fun in Satisfactory

[white dawn]

The wiki's also gonna include a lot of fancier variations which you can enjoy

But the point is: you basically never have to actually worry about splitting material "exactly"

The system is always going to self-level-out so long as you're feeding the source belt exactly what the machines are asking for (and so long as the belt tier you're using supports that rate)

[meager fern]

as long as you are willing to wait awhile for it to start working at full capacity, and if the system ever has a problem where you lose resources temporarily

[outer hatch]

But it's so much satifactory to do so!

[white dawn]

You can certainly build balancers anyway if you enjoy doing so. The one "downside" to manifolds is that you have to wait for them to "warm up" (ie: have their input buffers fill up)

Though you can avoid even that by pre-filling their buffers, assuming you have the material available

[sullen gull]

Or you can "speed it up" by "prefilling" by putting the machines on standby or at .1%

[white dawn]

The extreme benefit of manifolds is that they're extraordinarily flexible, though, and you can build them identically literally everywhere. Your belting/splitting/merging setups can be identical whether you're feeding 2, 3, 5, or 17 machines, etc. :)

[feral geyser]

I like balancers better for systems < 9-12 machines cuz i can use lower speed belts overall and get the same or better performance.

[meager fern]

having a machine not doing anything, or being at 1% is basically the same as it not working due to not having enough resources

[feral geyser]

But manifolds are way more expandable, as apoc mentioned

[meager fern]

if you cant expand your balancing, then you dont have enough splitters 😔

[teal geyser]

He said the name of the game!

[leaden dome]

It’s not that you can’t expand balancers it’s that it’s way more effort than expanding manifolds

[teal geyser]

Why do people like load balancers?

[feral geyser]

I never said you can't expand them

[meager fern]

but its so much less satisfying

[sullen gull]

Because of an Idea they need to feed machines exactly

[feral geyser]

I said manifolds are more expandable

[leaden dome]

I disagree

[meager fern]

i dont know how 2-3 machines at the end of a line barely working for 5-15 minutes is more satisfying than them all just working

[feral geyser]

I like them cuz they are more satisfying to watch, and I don't have to wait for "front" machines to fill before "back" ones get their share (faster startup overall)

[harsh valley]

I'm so stupid

I finally got how the manifold works

They will gradually all fill up

[leaden dome]

Yes

[outer hatch]

That, and the satisfaction of making the plan, mathing the maths, and making it actually work.

Manifolds are great, and nice, and solve many problems, but it's easy mode, sorta.

[feral geyser]

As long as input speed > consume speed, yes

[meager fern]

yeah it just takes awhile for the first few machines to completely fill up, so you arent dividing the resources in half so many times

[teal geyser]

Yea, but once the belt fills up in a bit of time, they should all run at 100% if the products are being away consistently

[feral geyser]

So if both result in 100%, why does it matter which one you use?

[teal geyser]

For the sake of argument 😂

[leaden dome]

Fucking preach man

[feral geyser]

It's either a preference, or an optimization.

[gilded chasm]

Hello fellow pioneers, I am trying to preemptively identify and fix my nuclear plant bottleneck and clogging. As a rule of thumb, is it enough to check any building that has 2 or more outputs (refineries, blenders...) as they are the one that can stop if one output isn't consummed? are there other sources of problems I should check ?

[outer hatch]

The eternal engineer vs designer debate.

[meager fern]

i only use manifolds when the numbers suck too much for me to bother. in 90% of cases i like having everything divided so it looks neat

[atomic notch]

Ok

[meager fern]

or with my coal power because it actually looks better with a manifold

[harsh valley]

Like 3 hours in i said this game wasn't as hard as i thought

Then i discovered 7 new recorces

[feral geyser]

Basically, if the number has any factors other than 2 or 3, I use manifolds cuz easier.

[leaden dome]

aluminum be like

[meager fern]

did you become a victim of the dunning krueger effect?

[harsh valley]

Don't even tell me bro

I'm still breaking my cranium over how to work out my steel factory

[feral geyser]

But even then, I always round machine counts up to the nearest threeven number anyway

[outer hatch]

Probably because the water piping often looks manifold-ish, so it fits well in looks.

[stoic fractal]

you can also prefill the machines manually so the manifold belts fill immediately

[leaden dome]

There’s I think 4 steps to making aluminum ingots lol

[meager fern]

bro told you not to tell him

[harsh valley]

I'm so Sorry

[feral geyser]

Brother -_-

[harsh valley]

Accidentally sent that to the wrong chat

[leaden dome]

No that was justified

[harsh valley]

😭

[leaden dome]

You right for that I don’t blame you

[atomic notch]

Idk i just build stuff yall got some messed up ideas

[harsh valley]

Allat just for ingots?

I'm guessing there's like 60 separate uses for those ingots too

[leaden dome]

It might be 3 steps I don’t remember off the top of my head

[meager fern]

bauxite to solution, solution to scrap, scrap to ingots

[leaden dome]

By proxy; those ingots make two things and those two things are used for 60 seperate things

[cunning siren]

I gots ingots

[harsh valley]

The usual

Also I'm gonna meed 1000 smart platings

Bro o struggled to make 50

[peak wasp]

multiple dimensional depot = multiple different item ?

[meager fern]

you just wait for it to do what it do while you do the other things

[leaden dome]

You can just sloop an assembler and attach some storage containers to its inputs

[harsh valley]

I'm currently producing rotors and reinforced iron plates separately

[leaden dome]

That works up until phase 4 for the most part

[harsh valley]

Since I'm building my coal power plant

Soon I'll connect the parts to an assembler and let it do it's job

But now stopping the fuse from blowing up every single minute because the thing is out of biomass is the priority

[cursive totem]

am i missing something or does this water just not exist actually?#screenshots message

[leaden dome]

Pre-automated power is my least favorite stage

[cursive totem]

coord: 1380,-960

[harsh valley]

Yea me too now

[white dawn]

At least we've got belt-fed burners now!

So your only tasks are "collect" and "dump in bin." :D

[meager fern]

personally i cant wait to do a run where i try to finish the entire space elevator off of just bio-burners

[harsh valley]

I'm halfway there to finally automating energy

[white dawn]

Takes quite a bit of the pressure off of Phase 1

[leaden dome]

True, it used to suck more

[harsh valley]

After that i can let the factory run for much longer

[cunning siren]

"Coal power gens" for when your to stingy to spend the coupons on early high speed connectors for geothermal power 😆 #SaveTheCoal!

[meager fern]

i need my coupons for foundations im never going to use, and materials i will also never use

[leaden dome]

Don’t geothermal only get like 800 per?

[silk ocean]

Not even that xD

[meager fern]

"The Geothermal Generator is a power generator building that generates 50-600 MW of power when built on top of a Geyser. It requires no additional input."

[rigid glen]

It varies and fluctuates, it's like a gimmick you add on top of a solid grid

it's not saving anyone anything, but I guess good in the start

[silk ocean]

A Pure averages 300 doesn't it? Peaks to 600

[leaden dome]

Yeah no I’m not taking every single geyser on the map just to dodge making a small coal plant

[meager fern]

you would need alot of batteries to try and stabilize the power

"Impure Geyser: 50-150 MW (100 MW average)
Normal Geyser: 100-300 MW (200 MW average)
Pure Geyser: 200-600 MW (400 MW average)"

[silk ocean]

Ah, 400, doesn't bottom-out

[real shale]

wait.... why is it 400MW average and not 300

[reef basin]

obviously your choice, but having independent power that never fails is decent

[silk ocean]

Swings between 200 and 600, so 400 average

[real shale]

oh because it starts at 200

[reef basin]

becuase 600 and 200 averages to 400

[meager fern]

yeah kekw

[real shale]

im stupid lol

[silk ocean]

Geothermal is a meme power xD

[real shale]

you cant even fully utilise it anyway

[leaden dome]

I am considering using a geothermal network for the water in my nuclear factory just because it’s really easy to set up off grid and stable

[rigid glen]

I just add them as I pass them, I like the little flutter it adds lol

especially so many on here hate it 😛

[cunning siren]

Do look out towers "count" for items that prevent spawns?

[real shale]

i find it interesting

[meager fern]

i think it has to be a powered production building

[leaden dome]

I don’t hate geothermal but fuck me if I’m trying to use it as a substitute for a coal plant

[harsh valley]

What's the next source of electricity after coal?

[leaden dome]

oil

[real shale]

fuel

[leaden dome]

Turbofuel then rocket fuel

[meager fern]

🦅

[harsh valley]

heck yeah

[rigid glen]

Oil/Fuel generators - 1st time you can use different fuels for different burn times

[harsh valley]

It's 'Murica time

(I'm European)

[limpid cairn]

actually its fuel then nuclear power

[real shale]

Coal has compacted coal and coke tho

[leaden dome]

Nuclear is optional atp because of rocket

[meager fern]

nuclear seems like a try hard power source

[limpid cairn]

(you unlock nuclear power earlier than rocket fuel btw)

[feral geyser]

Not if you do the MAM

[meager fern]

try hard not to make your factory into an irradiated mess that is

[silk ocean]

If you go as far as Uranium, reprocess the waste and sink the plutonium rods, it's not so bad, beyond that if you want to go down the Plutonium, Ficsonium route, it becomes very involved

[leaden dome]

No? You just need blenders and aluminum and some turbofuel

[real shale]

Nitrogen gas?

[feral geyser]

You don't even need blenders wait yeah you do

[solemn relic]

my power grid got blown but everytime i power it back on it blows again and i cant check the power output and the power consumption, what do i do?

[meager fern]

disconnect some stuff until it stops blowing

[real shale]

Black start time

Disconnect your power stations and slowly put stuff back online

[leaden dome]

Comes from advanced aluminum production which you can get before/at the same time as nuclear

[harsh valley]

Compacted coal?

How do i do that

[real shale]

Sulphur and coal

[limpid cairn]

mam under sulfur

[leaden dome]

Oh wait no you have to do advanced aluminum first because of cooling systems

[meager fern]

i always have my power on 1 seperate grid, and then a power switch at the start of each factory, and the start of each production line, so i can toggle sections on and off

[leaden dome]

So rocket fuel is just definitively before nuclear

[harsh valley]

How many unites does if use /min

[real shale]

I still want to make a substation

[rigid glen]

I have dreamed of this and never remember to add 🙂

[real shale]

Mesh substation would be interesting

[meager fern]

"Compacted Coal 8.4s burn time,7.142857 coal per minute"

[harsh valley]

How did you divide your sections

[meager fern]

!wikisearch power switch

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power+switch

[real shale]

Mmmmmm priority power switch my beloved

[harsh valley]

I mean like in what sections did you divide it in

And what use does it bring

[real shale]

Allows you to conduct load shedding to avoid black starts

[rigid glen]

Would a standard fuel depot be ok to fuel drones, small to mid sized network

[fresh copper]

what's 20mw

[meager fern]

i said how i divided it. 1 power switch per factory, 1 per production line

[harsh valley]

Shat are black starts

[harsh valley]

20 mega watts

[real shale]

Having to start your grid from nothing

[harsh valley]

20 million watts

[fresh copper]

what buildings are

[harsh valley]

Wdym

[meager fern]

and the use is what nerdmojer said. so you dont have to manually disconnect things

[harsh valley]

What wrong does it do?

[real shale]

Wdym

[harsh valley]

Does it like just take more time to boot up?

Why are black starts bad

[silk ocean]

Triple-clocked slooped particle accelerator is about 21.6 MW (peak) xD

[real shale]

It can become very tedious in certain circumstances to start back up

[meager fern]

you have to disconnect all your power cables and slowly start things up

[real shale]

Especially with the likes of fuel generators

[harsh valley]

Pardon me but wouldn't they all activate by turning the grid on as a whole?

[real shale]

No

[meager fern]

if your grid is overloaded you cant just turn it back on

you have to figure out where the power drain is coming from

[real shale]

They have priorities so they trip from last to first

[harsh valley]

Ohhh i see

And why is it bad in fuel generators?

[real shale]

Because you are relying on fluids to pump in, and fluids are a nightmare to get going sometimes

[harsh valley]

Because without fuel you won't be able to turn them on again?

[rigid glen]

Watch IAmKibits on Youtube, he has some great Power Grid Shut Downs and Crises

[real shale]

which also require power to turn on the refineries to produce the fuel in the first place

[harsh valley]

And without getting the power plants started you cannot produce fuel

[meager fern]

always remember the great nuclear crisis

[harsh valley]

I saw that vid too

Anyways i should go to sleep since i have a biology test tomorrow

Goodnight people

[real shale]

Actually it's one of the reasons I like geothermals

Because you can use them for microgriding

[surreal meteor]

Catwalks are the greatest thing to have ever been added into Satisfactory

I added catwalks to my Phase 3 factory and it immediately looked ten times better

[white dawn]

Yeah, catwalks are A+ for sure

[real shale]

God I love this games power mechanics, it makes me feel somewhat at home

[atomic notch]

Are those the ones that snap to platforms?

[meager fern]

do you live in a power plant?

[white dawn]

They're also my exploration buildable of choice (along with power towers, I suppose)

[real shale]

No I'm a power engineer

[rigid glen]

If you're building Fuel generators, use catwalks on the top section to arrange everything so the catwalks line up

it's disappointing when they don't

[real shale]

Priority power switch my beloved 🤤

[atomic notch]

Priority merger my beloved

[white dawn]

I continue to hope that CSS'll fix the hoverpack power-grid-switch bug so I can get back to using PPSes

[real shale]

What bug is that

[meager fern]

noooo high speed connectors. i didnt know that priority power switches existed before, but now i need them. it sounds like it makes life so much simpler

[white dawn]

I love building those out, even though I haven't legit tripped power since like U3, but if it's hoverpacks or PPSes, the PPSes have to go, alas

[real shale]

It really does

You can trip all the power switches remotely with it

[white dawn]

If you're using a hoverpack and it switches which grid it pulls power from (as in: from one side of a power switch to another), the machines on one side of the grid can temporarily pause

Which can be mystifying AF if you've forgotten about the bug or don't know about it in the first place

[real shale]

Oh....wait it has power flow mechanics?

[white dawn]

It's not supposed to, no

But there's something weird where when it switches grids it can cause brief idles on machines

Which can be annoying if you're trying to watch a factory to make sure that everything's good, or if you've got delicate loopbacks and such where you don't want things pausing

[meager fern]

i didnt know that hoverpack actually used power. i thought it was just a free flight thing for in your factory

[white dawn]

(though theoretically it shouldn't affect the loopbacks since everything in the loopback would likely be on the same grid)

[white dawn]

Yeah, it costs some amount of MW while it's active, and is only active when you're within range of powered equipment

[real shale]

Hmmmmmmm

[white dawn]

(100MW? 150? I forget exactly how much)

[meager fern]

it says 100. i knew about the "in range of power" thing but i thought that was just a gimmick so you couldnt free fly anywhere

[real shale]

although having power flow mechanics is wacky lmao, glad to see it causes as issues in the game as it does irl lmao

[white dawn]

As you fly around, pay attention to the little shafts of light as you move around; that's showing you which Thing the hoverpack is drawing power from. :)

[meager fern]

i also knew about the light shaft thing, but i thought that was just an animation to make the gimmick make sense

like "hey look, its showing that you can only fly because you are near power" instead of actually drawing from the power

[fresh copper]

not me producing 0.02 too many screws a minute and it screwing up the efficency of my entire project part factory

[white dawn]

In the end, that's probably all it's really meant to be; the machine-idle thing is almost certainly a bug

[real shale]

Interesting bug

[leaden dome]

How is overproducing messing up the rest of the line?

[meager fern]

the screws back up, which backs up the thing making the screws, which backs up the ingots, which backs up the ore

[limpid cairn]

[meager fern]

this is the way

[real shale]

0.02 seems like a small amount to cause all that though

[limpid cairn]

it causes all that tho xD

[leaden dome]

I was assuming they meant problems forward in the chain because they said “whole project part factory”

[meager fern]

i dont think theres any way that would happen. isnt over production only a problem with bi-products?

because the bi-products back up and stop the main product

[leaden dome]

Yeah I didn’t think that was a thing either that’s why I asked

[limpid cairn]

yes

[leaden dome]

But I figure if they’re just talking about backing up like the miner and the smelter then it wouldn’t be backing up the whole thing

[meager fern]

its just as awful 😔 i hate having that much stuff backed up

[leaden dome]

Maybe the screws are being produced off of a pure recipe from water byproduct in aluminum production, and since the screws are being underutilized it’s backing up the water which backs up the aluminum production idk

[meager fern]

i guess that could be a thing

[peak wasp]

standard oscillator or alternative? D:

[meager fern]

the alt recipe is faster, but it takes rubber

[peak wasp]

yup i see

[leaden dome]

I like it but I have a lot of excess rubber production

According to the tier list it’s pretty good

[atomic notch]

Was gonna be like which one🤓 but then i realized the other doesnt have an alt

[peak wasp]

XD

[leaden dome]

It blew my mind when I learned that they actually added superposition oscillators

[feral geyser]

This is why you should avoid interlinking waste water 😏

[leaden dome]

Wasn’t planning on it lol

[atomic notch]

Water is water

[feral geyser]

I did that at first, and everything kept stalling. As soon as I put things on their own loops, everything was working fine.

[real shale]

Waterrrrr

[shrewd wind]

Anyone have any information regarding extra hand slots not being added when researched in the MAM?

[atomic notch]

Maybe reload

[real shale]

I wish I had extra hands, FICSIT should invest in this idea, I'd be more productive then

[shrewd wind]

Tried saving and loading. Did not help. A post on reddit shows several people experiencing this

[feral geyser]

Doctor Octopus style

[cursive phoenix]

#screenshots message

[shrewd wind]

Not extra hands, hand slots 😉

[real shale]

Doctor octoganopus

[feral geyser]

Maybe submit a bug report.

[feral geyser]

Hell yeah, shards for days 😎

[real shale]

Shards for about two factories worth

[shrewd wind]

According to the reddit post, there are already many. But sure, I can make another.

[limpid cairn]

Its enough for 1 manifold of refineries 🤓☝️

[feral geyser]

Close and entirely reload the game maybe?

[shrewd wind]

I'll try that now

[leaden dome]

Upvote the existing ones then

Or like or whatever it is on the qna site

[cursive phoenix]

im in phase 3 lol, i have no clue what to do with so many shards

[real shale]

You've heard of manifolds, you've heard of load balancers but nobody is ready for the conversation of the manifold balancer yet....

[feral geyser]

You could expand fuel production capacity, then overclock gens

[cursive phoenix]

can you use nobelisks / ammo thru the alien storaghe

[feral geyser]

No,

[cursive phoenix]

i do that already XD

[cursive phoenix]

aww mann

[feral geyser]

But you can take them out and use them in your inventory

[cursive phoenix]

ooohhhh

[shrewd wind]

Didn't help

[feral geyser]

Get some uploading, pin it in the depot menu, have them whenever you want.

[atomic notch]

Would be hella cool to see a dd ammo reload animation but nah u gotta do it by hand which is funny bc adas always talkin about takin human error out of the equation

[cursive phoenix]

omg im so stupid, i never realised you can put multiple items through the same alien storage thingy

like different

[feral geyser]

You can but you shouldn't

[cursive phoenix]

ohhh

[limpid cairn]

Don’t sushi belt depots 🙏🙏🙏

[feral geyser]

Cuz if one item fills in storage, it will block anything else from going into it

[cursive phoenix]

fair

[feral geyser]

Even the most avid sushi enjoyers will tell you don't do that lol

[atomic notch]

Its bc it shows why sushi belts suck and they cant stand too accept that fact

[cursive phoenix]

guys im somehow over producing even though im using 600ml pipes and using 30 gasoline power thingies

[rigid glen]

Regular fuel?

[cursive phoenix]

yes

[feral geyser]

Pipes can have trouble flowing at max rate if the setup is off

[shrewd wind]

How many hand slots do a new pioneer start with?

[rigid glen]

300 oil feeds 5 refineries into 10 generators

[atomic notch]

I do sushi but ik its trash lol

[cursive phoenix]

ive got 900 oil

15 ref 30 gens

[rigid glen]

how are you over producing?

[shrewd wind]

Okay, so I started with 3 hand slots. That must be the bug, this is also reported on the bug forum

[limpid cairn]

@sterile blade can we sushi belt depots ?

[cursive phoenix]

ive got no clue

[shrewd wind]

Gonna try and see if I can research another hand slot

[atomic notch]

Started with three? And ur complaing?

[cursive phoenix]

bruh wtf im making 12k using 5k and my whole thing shut down

[rigid glen]

Are you over clocking? 30 generartors would make 7500MW normal

[cursive phoenix]

#screenshots message

[cursive phoenix]

i have coal

can you build multiple alien power augmenters?

[rigid glen]

yes, I believe so

[feral geyser]

Up to 10

[cursive phoenix]

So you could have 100% power boost?

😧

[feral geyser]

It doesn't work exactly like that

[cursive phoenix]

Sad

[feral geyser]

Aeryn posted a good calculation of it at some point

You actually get more than that?

Or I might've misunderstood

[cursive phoenix]

More???

[leaden dome]

Does it compound?

[sterile blade]

What's a "belt depot"?

[limpid cairn]

Sushi belt
Depots

[feral geyser]

#satisfactory message

[shrewd wind]

First off, not complaining. Second, I researched something and nothing was adding. Sorry, that confused me.
Researched a fourth hand slot and that worked fine. So yeah, starting with 3 hand slots is a thing.

[unkempt blade]

same issue as normal sushi belts, if an item jams the line (fills its spot up) all following items stop moving

[sterile blade]

Nope

[feral geyser]

I may have misspoke when I said 2, it's been a long time since I started fresh 🥴

[shrewd wind]

No, you were right. Or at least, I think you were 🙂

[cursive phoenix]

Ohh it makes sense, so essentially its:
base power 10k
1st 11k
Second 10% of that?

[frail sleet]

overflow smart splitter can take those items tho

[shrewd wind]

Makes sense, and it matches the bug report

[leaden dome]

Won’t take them out of the depot they’re clogging

[unkempt blade]

there's always going to be a little stub of conveyor between the depot and the splitter you can't overflow

[feral geyser]

@frail sleet can you help these guys understand APA boost stacking?

You can explain it better than me

[cursive phoenix]

How do factory carts work they look funny

[unkempt blade]

like normal vehicles with truck stops but they only have one item slot and don't require fuel

[frail sleet]

see #satisfactory message 😄

[sterile blade]

The incredible "balancefolds"?
Ie: machines' inputs matching belt speed

[cursive phoenix]

Instead of satisfactory they should cal it Masofactory

[frail sleet]

spreading manifold inputs is actively counterproductive. You get the best performance putting 100% of your belt into one machine, then the next, then the next

[cursive phoenix]

Ahh

[plain marten]

i love sushi belts. all my new factories have every single thing they make and require in a sushi belt

[leaden dome]

I think I’ve figured it out

[atomic notch]

Did they ban the nerd react emoji?

Lol weird

[leaden dome]

Doesn’t look like it

[unkempt blade]

the person might have you blocked or something

[plain marten]

i dont get why many people dont do sushi belts tbh it makes stuff so much easier

[feral geyser]

The person probably blocked you and you can't react to them

Oop

[atomic notch]

Oh that makes sense

[feral geyser]

Who, out of curiosity?

[atomic notch]

Aeryn

[feral geyser]

Damn bro

You fucked up bad if they blocked you

[atomic notch]

Im not surprised im pretty toxic sometimes

Probably before i started putting crashouts in ppls profile notes lol

[plain marten]

i love curve so much it makes my spaghetti look clean and smooth

it makes spaghetti look pleasant

[feral geyser]

I just had a spaghetti sandwich for lunch

[plain marten]

i have a long smooth flowing pasta strand of water pipes which go to my nuclear reactors

[feral geyser]

Curve mode was one of the best new things they gave us

[feral geyser]

Pics or gtfo

[plain marten]

its in screesnhots

[meager fern]

i think you mean straight mode 😔

[plain marten]

i love those curvy pipes

[feral geyser]

Curve for belts, straight for pipes

[sterile blade]

Not everyone finds them intuitive and people are often loud about their dislike for them, for some reason (this tends to disencourage experimenting with them)

[feral geyser]

That's sexy

[meager fern]

but on a serious note, those modes are kind of buggy. i will try to make a connection in straight or curve mode and it will give me an error about it "being too steep" and then do the exact same thing in default and it will be green

[feral geyser]

I just don't know the "best practices" for using them properly

[plain marten]

i find them so nice. it allows me to make a dense and compact factory and it allows me to just put every single thing on the sushi belt, and smart split whatever stuff is needed. then i just put the products of the machine back in to the sushi belt. repeat until i have the desired product that the factory makes. then just sink the rest

[unkempt blade]

The problem with "spaghetti" is that conveyors aren't round. With proper nomenclature we'd be calling it fettuccine or something flat but thin and long. Thank you for attending my pasta TED talk

[feral geyser]

He's out of line, but he's right

[sterile blade]

"Sushi must flow"
Ie: if a belt is carrying more than one item, it should end up in a sink eventually (or it's content should be completely consumed by other productions) to ensure that things will keep flowing indefinetly
Using smart splitters with "overflow" settings is the most common and straight forward approach

[plain marten]

also you should never use lower mark belt than the sushi belt is when feeding machines. it causes stuff to overflow

[feral geyser]

That also makes sense

[sterile blade]

There can be reasons to do that, but generally it's not advised ^^

[feral geyser]

I guess i would have to see a system running with it. It seems like a lot of splitters and mergers on one belt

[atomic notch]

You have to throw away half your resources

[shy mulch]

Wait until you see my nitrogen rigatoni

[sterile blade]

It's about the same number of splitters and mergers that you normally have, just on one belt instead of more than one xD (simple example: output of machines gets merged with their inputs' overflow right next to the machine, so the next machine in line can use it as input)

[sterile blade]

A pretty old example with a nuclear manifold taking little enough space to fit comfortably below the walkway between machines: #907847228188655676 message

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys listen. I want ALL of you to listen.

I got to Phase 2. Now I need coal. Send me your coals.

Like, all of them.

[manic topaz]

i am getting 60fps at 1080p on a gtx 1650
at ultra/cinematic settings

i have optimized everything

[leaden dome]

3 water extractors to 8 generators is all you need to know, just hook up coal to it and you’re golden

[mortal ginkgo]

I know what I need. I just want everyone else's.

[spark sky]

There, got my coal power plant working and spruced up a bit: #screenshots message

[leaden dome]

Oh I see

I’ll put some in the dimensional depot for you hope that helps

[mortal ginkgo]

ty, pls make haste. blz.

[cursive phoenix]

Guys how do i stop this game from taking over my life at this rate im gonna fail my exams😝😝

[leaden dome]

Adderall

[mortal ginkgo]

If you are asking this, it is already too late.

I got... 180 hour gameplay time in phase 1 because I wanted to finish decorating what I wanted.

Now imagine Phase 2.

At Phase 3 I think we will have Satisfactory 2 - Revenge of the Spheres released.

I will eventually catch up with you folk. Yes.

[cursive phoenix]

Youre saying, i might have adhd😭
I actually took a test. Ill let you know in a few weeks. This made me giggle

[cursive phoenix]

I thought i was slow with 80hrs in 2 weeks in phase 3 lol. Im
Future proofing atm. Setting
Up trains etc

[leaden dome]

Not necessarily. non adhd people get a buff from adderall too

[mortal ginkgo]

Technically I wasn't slow. I just wanted to decorate alot kek but gz.

[cursive phoenix]

Surely not

[leaden dome]

There’s like a big adderall ring at my college during exam season

[spark sky]

Hm, I have 3 water extractors, each is feeding 4 coal generators. The water extractors are overclocked at 250% and the generators are at 150%.

[mortal ginkgo]

everyone including my mom has adhd and autism if doctor really wanted to tell you. 😛

most of time people says "I cant focus on this job and I dislike it" and docs go "lol bro you got focus disorder".

No lil doc, he just doesn't like the job so he cant focus on it.

[real shale]

Consume.

[sullen gull]

@junior laurel

[cursive phoenix]

Satisfactory is like crack for me basically

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

Am I doing it correct senpai?

[cursive phoenix]

😧 i hope i dont have it

[leaden dome]

fuck you mean by this

[spark sky]

I don't know, I can spend all day just making new blueprints.

[cursive phoenix]

Why not

[cursive phoenix]

Im so confused

[junior laurel]

₵Ø₦₴Ʉ₥Ɇ ØɄⱤ ฿ⱠØØĐ

[mortal ginkgo]

"No, ADHD tests are not always accurate"

if you are unable to focus on something, doesn't mean you got ADHD. I got focus issues with my own personal project but not in my job etc

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

Senpai.

[junior laurel]

Neat timing to be summoned.
I can taste the neurodiversity in people

[leaden dome]

waiting on my autism test results rn I probably passed

[junior laurel]

I'm sure you'll pass with flying colours.
A spectrum of colours if you will

[sullen gull]

I do love how there now has to be a term to define that people don't "think" or act the same across the board 😒

[cursive phoenix]

Even one by a liscenced psychiatrist?

[cursive phoenix]

Same actually

[leaden dome]

I am not a licensed psychiatrist bruv

[mortal ginkgo]

what I mean is there are many many many things that need to be checked.

[cursive phoenix]

Not you, IRL😂😂

[mortal ginkgo]

He didn't ask you so its fine I think.

[leaden dome]

^

[cursive phoenix]

Yeah thats fair

[leaden dome]

he literally did??

[cursive phoenix]

Ohhh mb, dindt refer to that

Sorryy

[jade frigate]

How many alternative recipes are in game?

[mortal ginkgo]

you supposed to quote reply that or else it is confusing as he responded to "No, ADHD tests are not always accurate".

[junior laurel]

How did y'all get on this topic anyway?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, it was random. It is random. We just yolo.

[cursive phoenix]

" how do i stop playing so much satisfactory before i fail my exam year"

[leaden dome]

nah im joking, I know you weren’t serious

but you did technically ask me

[cursive phoenix]

[junior laurel]

113

[leaden dome]

that’s the joke I’m making

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, if you are able to focus on satisfactory so much, I would say you are good. 😛

[cursive phoenix]

I got it dw

[cursive phoenix]

Its not focus, its a dedication to FICSIT

[sullen gull]

Why does everyone just assume ADHD is just about "focus"? 🙄

[junior laurel]

Consume more :3

[mortal ginkgo]

See, you got reverse ADHD. You focus too good. Kek.

[leaden dome]

Attention deficit? Nah, attention de ficsit

[junior laurel]

That's because the default thing people know about it is just that

[cursive phoenix]

@junior laurel instead of satisfactory what if we called it, masofactory

[mortal ginkgo]

it is a main focus when you search interwebs.

thats why I stated "many many checks"

[real shale]

Sorry what did you say I wasn't paying attention

[leaden dome]

Same reason everyone assumes ocd is just perfectionism

[cursive phoenix]

😂

[junior laurel]

Like what is the default thing people think of when autism is brought up?
That one train guy with that camera angle?

[real shale]

Me

I think about myself

[cursive phoenix]

😭

I love this community ngl man its so great.

[sullen gull]

Yerah, and now, you MUST be autistic if you like trains ... smh

[leaden dome]

The guy from family guy I think

[cursive phoenix]

Ever since i quit FPS my life has been so much better ngl

[junior laurel]

"I like trains"

[mortal ginkgo]

One wanting things to be tidy, looking perfect sounds more like "an ok person" and not an "Surely OCD broh".

I mean it is a game with literally no time limit. Do we have to like "foundations flying on sky" factories?

[real shale]

Conductor there is a problem, conductor there is a problem

[cursive phoenix]

I like choo choow

[junior laurel]

I joke about liking trains for the bit. I don't care about trains but I will tell you whenever I get the chance to say "Holy shit there's a train choo choo mother fucker" I will.

[mortal ginkgo]

we luv u bak

[real shale]

Oh god the voice line when you unlock trains in this game is so out of pocket I love it

[mortal ginkgo]

ADA romance options when

[cursive phoenix]

I heard ada say that, i was laughing for a few minutes at that. Dindt expect it

[junior laurel]

I also joke about how I can "taste" neurodiversity but yeah that is how synesthesia be
Either you know what that is your you can google it :)

[sullen gull]

I did it yesterday after we swapped out a chain in a conveyor and started it back up 🤣

[real shale]

"Your curves are beautiful"

"how inappropriate, tell me more "

[junior laurel]

April First

[cursive phoenix]

Huh?

[junior laurel]

That's a cultural difference, they are not romantically inclined.... REeeeee

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, truth needs to be told.

[leaden dome]

That line really wants to make me see Ada’s curves

[cursive phoenix]

Ficsit should do a diagnostic and see how many % of the player base have adhd or autism😭😂

[cursive phoenix]

[cunning glade]

Hey chat how do I get satisfactory too take screenshots in PNG format

[junior laurel]

Hello I am FICSIT and I have personally done these tests

[real shale]

Get back to growing the factory, pioneers do not have time to dwindle on such inefficient thoughts

[cursive phoenix]

And?

[cunning glade]

Ayo

[real shale]

It seems the community managed to overclock the figures to 250%

[cursive phoenix]

Is that lil darkie?

[cursive phoenix]

Sounds abt right

[cunning glade]

Yes why?

[cursive phoenix]

Peak

[cunning glade]

Yes

[sullen gull]

Don't think you can?

[leaden dome]

I’m not horny for Ada but I want to know what about Ada is curved considering she’s an ai

[cunning glade]

It did before

[junior laurel]

Statistically speaking if you play this game you are most likely neurodivergent
The actual % is under NDA :)
But y'all taste autistic as fuck

[cursive phoenix]

Robot

[junior laurel]

Give me an ADA body pillow...

[cunning glade]

Well before I turned HDR on it would take them in PNG

[cursive phoenix]

Ada, google "meaning neurodivergent"

[cunning glade]

So ig just turn HDR off

But HDR is needed

[leaden dome]

I assume Adan’t hasn’t inspected Ada’s physical body so the curves probably mean something other than her circuits and I would be curious to know what it means

[real shale]

I didn't give you permission to taste

[junior laurel]

I can't even make a joke about it 🙃

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah nevermind, as usual, I'm an idiot and all mine were already in png 🤦‍♂️

[junior laurel]

The tastes of vibes round here at quite.... "train liking" vibes

[sullen gull]

And can't use HDR anyhow, so never knew there was a diff. My bad.

[cursive phoenix]

Last sentence might be true

[leaden dome]

Shockingly not the first time I’ve been told I taste autistic

[real shale]

Jokes on you I am of the power tower liking vibes

[cunning glade]

Lol all good

[cunning glade]

Yes u can it's a ue5 game

[cursive phoenix]

I mean u main xiao
Jk

[junior laurel]

👀 Oh my... anyways 😅

[sullen gull]

Monitors don't support HDR, so I can't seem to enable it

[leaden dome]

thems fighting words boy

[cunning glade]

Oh u can't use HDR u mean

[cursive phoenix]

😧

[cunning glade]

My bad

[sullen gull]

That's what I said 🤣

[cunning glade]

Yes some games change the file format

I didn't sleep okay💔

And I've been at work all day

[limpid cairn]

Xiao mains are ew I agree !!!

[sullen gull]

Makes sense. Like Canon and .CR* files.

[cunning glade]

Xbox changes it too jxr format

[junior laurel]

I sentence you to 6 hours of sleep

[cursive phoenix]

Hey man, that's a goodquestion

[atomic notch]

I just hit print screen thats prolly why a my ss suck

[cursive phoenix]

Cant force us

[leaden dome]

bruh

[cursive phoenix]

Thanks

[cunning glade]

I'm sentencing myself too 6 hours of factory building when I get home actually

[real shale]

I am FICS main myself

[leaden dome]

Guys what the fuck stop bullying my short king he’s already sad

[cunning glade]

I have a 3900 a min aluminum ingot factory im making

It's been planned it's time too start doing

[limpid cairn]

No problem man, always there to help a fella out

[junior laurel]

Welp we've drifted away from the ND stuff so I'mma go back to the backrooms minecraft pack <3

[mortal ginkgo]

make it 4k

[cursive phoenix]

Im sentencing you to 6hours of troubleshooting fluids

[limpid cairn]

Not sad enough 🙏🙏🙏

[cunning glade]

No

[cursive phoenix]

[mortal ginkgo]

bro really did'em dirty yo

[mortal ginkgo]

I didn't ask you to refuse.

[cunning glade]

3900 gives me perfect belts of 780

[cursive phoenix]

Valid

[cunning glade]

5 for the ore and 10 for the scrap

[limpid cairn]

Does this mean you need help with dogs driving trains?

[cursive phoenix]

Noooo

[mortal ginkgo]

You won the arguement this time. But I will be back. Stronger with stupidier suggestions!

[sullen gull]

I keep searching the innerwebs for more "helical style" pipes satisfactory videos.... anyone have any tips they wanna share? lol. I tried one that sonicweave sent, but coming out too square ...

[cunning glade]

Gives me 5 perfect belts of it or I would I was tempted

[junior laurel]

I have personally killed all the lizard doggos
noclips into the backrooms

[cunning glade]

Would need too do 4680

[cursive phoenix]

I need help with; do i either build a clean train track and make my brain happy but hate myself while building it, or spagetthi and then future me hates me

[leaden dome]

I just had to rebuild my entire train network because it was spaghetti don’t do it

[cunning glade]

Can doggos give coupons?

[limpid cairn]

Build spaghetti so your current you is happy, everything else isn’t your problem but future yours problem

[cursive phoenix]

But i need plastic in my main factory so i can advance ( computers )😫

[thorny beacon]

has ada gotten sassyer throughout the updates😭

[cursive phoenix]

Sounds about right

[cunning glade]

Make a separate factory and train them around

[leaden dome]

Then just build a good train network

[limpid cairn]

ficsit does not suggest to put lizard doggos into a awesome sink

[cunning glade]

Like I mean can they find them

[cursive phoenix]

Could do but i want to keep my oil stuff mostly oil ngl

[cunning glade]

Huh

I also train rubber and plastic everywhere

Same with hmf

[cursive phoenix]

Thsts what im gonna do

[cunning glade]

But they will be drones soon

[leaden dome]

but we can put other alien protein in there, why not doggo?

[cursive phoenix]

How much should i aim for?

[cunning glade]

I did 16.85

[cursive phoenix]

You recon its enough?

[cunning glade]

Gives me 6 machines was pretty easy

[limpid cairn]

Kill the doggo first and refine it into alien proteins

[cunning glade]

🤷

[cursive phoenix]

I make 810 steel rn, it could be 2-3 x more since i have 3x3 pure nodes (600 per min )
Is 810 enoighv

[junior laurel]

-# if anyone wants to talk about ND stuff my DMs open or so is the off topic channel and I can and will talk for hours about magical brain stuff

[cunning glade]

So far it is

[leaden dome]

Only you can answer that question

The amount of stuff automated you need is dependent on how big you build

[mortal ginkgo]

its enough if it is enough for your project.

[cursive phoenix]

I really dunno

[cunning glade]

But if I need more I can expand it

[cursive phoenix]

Same

[cunning glade]

I mean for hmf

[cursive phoenix]

Oh yeah

[cunning glade]

But fair

[cursive phoenix]

Ill try to aim for 20 cus why not right

[mortal ginkgo]

isnt 20 hmf... alot..?

[cursive phoenix]

I msgd u👀

[cursive phoenix]

The lion doesnt concern himself with how much he produces, he likes big factory.
The lion does concern himself with the fact he doesnt have the rescouces for it

[whole drift]

What’s the best mod to download that won’t break my game?

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=77dugsw4TFqQWAOS7V4C

[mortal ginkgo]

This is madness!

[leaden dome]

If you’re making enough to supply your consumption then it’s enough. I build really big so I build huge supply to keep up with huge demand

[cunning glade]

Don't worry u got this

[leaden dome]

I major fucked up recently with my big building when I automated 50 computers per minute and then realized I needed like six for the entire rest of the game

[cunning glade]

I have 15 a min for those

[real shale]

Im not making enough....

[thorny beacon]

coffe stain gladfully gave us the awesome sink

[cursive phoenix]

Ah yes 100 smelters needed
3k iron needed
1.8k concrete
1.8k coal

[cunning glade]

Pretty easy

[mortal ginkgo]

I thought it would be much mo- ye ok.

[cursive phoenix]

😩 😩

[mortal ginkgo]

He is like, "casually plops factory"

[cunning glade]

It's actually 4800 ore a min

[real shale]

55 computers 55 crystal oscillators 55 heavy modular frames 55 burgers 55 fries 55 pancakes 55 tater tots....wait....

[cursive phoenix]

Oops

[cunning glade]

U rounded wrong

1800 coal and limestone

[cursive phoenix]

Yeah tahts what i meant

[mortal ginkgo]

just sloop all HMFs kek

[cunning glade]

340 constructers lol

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop 340 constructors like you mean it

[cunning glade]

Tbh I don't use sloops that much

[cursive phoenix]

Im more concerned by how im
Gonna get 3800 iron

[cunning glade]

Simple

[cursive phoenix]

Nah im saving up for the power thing

[cunning glade]

If ur mk4 480/4800

10 full belts

[cursive phoenix]

Thats diabolical

Ngl

[cunning glade]

Not really

[cursive phoenix]

I need iron for other stuff too

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop the power sloop

[cunning glade]

And that's 3 miners

[atomic notch]

Yk whats diabolical? Copper powder

[cursive phoenix]

Can
You sloop miner?

[mortal ginkgo]

no

[cunning glade]

Well 4 ig

[cursive phoenix]

Sp ive heard

[cursive phoenix]

I have mk2 miners man

[leaden dome]

It’s just too much fucking copper

[mortal ginkgo]

sloop'em

[cunning glade]

Well aim for 16.85 much more reasonable

[cursive phoenix]

20mk3 miners....

[cursive phoenix]

How

[leaden dome]

or you know just don’t automate 20 hmfs per minute

[atomic notch]

They all in augmenters rn

And my stupid broken aluminum that i need to rebuild

[mortal ginkgo]

you need them for power in this day and ECONOMY?!

[cunning glade]

Ur not it's only 16

[cursive phoenix]

But..... big number

[cursive phoenix]

16,85*

[cunning glade]

My factory that makes that only needs 1800 ore

For iron

600 coal 900 limestone

[leaden dome]

yes but big number require bigger numbers and you do indeed have to face the bigger numbers (3000 iron or whatever) to get the big number

[cunning glade]

Was very easy with mk4 belts the annoying parts was 2400 screws a min

[cursive phoenix]

4800 iron✍️ 8 mk2 miners fully overclocked

[cursive phoenix]

😂😂😂 show ur factory

[cunning glade]

Well it wasn't that bad but Im not home

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%3A"16.85"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_BoltedFrame_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ReinforcedIronPlate_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Screw_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Computer_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CoatedCable_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Quickwire_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelPipe_Molded_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_IngotSteel_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_WetConcrete_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualPlastic_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualRubber_C"]}#goog_rewarded

The planner I used tho

[hard ivy]

ew

[cunning glade]

Ugly ass link damm

I don't wanna hear it

[hard ivy]

not just the link

[cunning glade]

No ik

[hard ivy]

what it leads to is much worse

[cunning glade]

I don't wanna hear it

They're both useful tool wise

And screws are cool

[cursive phoenix]

Huh

[mortal ginkgo]

OH NO THE UNHOLY WORD TO SUMMON THE UNSPEAKABLE FOLK!

WE CAN STILL SAVAGE THIS! HE DIDN'T SAY "CAST SCREWS ARE FINE YET!"

[atomic notch]

I love screws i love using recipes that use more screws

[cursive phoenix]

Screws arent thaaaaat bad

[hard ivy]

I'm not talking about screws. though they're not a good choice here

[cunning glade]

Cast screws are amazing

[atomic notch]

He said it

[cunning glade]

What's wrong with them

[mortal ginkgo]

steel screws are literally made for HMF regular recipe so that one can make them beside the big boi with a smol constructor

[cunning glade]

As this is my first play thru

[reef basin]

not really useful past T2

[cunning glade]

That's fair

Doesn't make them bad cuz they're amazing early game

[reef basin]

I wouldn't say that either

[atomic notch]

Maybe next time i shouldnt do that and just try to throw em all on belts and balance it

[mortal ginkgo]

Correct question is "whats wrong with those screw haters?"

Pre 1.0 Screws were really in big demand, messing up alot of belts and such. People got PTSD from that.

Now Screws are fine but they still have that PTSD.

Some people are just be like that sometimes.

Hello btw.

[cunning glade]

Wym

[unkempt blade]

I mean it never stops simplifying the build if someone wants to use a screw-inclusive recipe

[hard ivy]

the calculator itself. it's awful 😂

[atomic notch]

Prolly scim

Patter recognition😏

[cunning glade]

Okay so as someone who put 200 hours into satisfactory before 1.0 before never got that far for spoilers screws were fine I have always loved screws

[reef basin]

there are recipes that do practically everything better, depending on what you want from cast screws

[cunning glade]

It ain't that bad

Sure there's better

But they both work this one lets me import alts which I very much like

The other doesn't too my knowledge

[hard ivy]

then try to calculate how much oil you need for 300 plastic at minimum lmao

[cunning glade]

I have plastic and rubber made in a separate factory that gets trained so it doesn't matter?

Oh try

[atomic notch]

Scim makes you make extra items iirc

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, screws were always fine. sure it is good to get rid of something that uses tons of belt space but saying "get rid of it fully or you are wrong and its skill issue" is just stupid and annoying.

Steel Screws goes so well with HMF classic recipe its not even funny.

Yes, now I unwillingly summon "ATTTCCCHUUUAAALLLY USE ENCASED HMF ALT BRUUUUUH IT NEEDS TO SCREWS BROOOOOH LOLLLLLLLL 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 " but who cares.

[cunning glade]

Says I need 3600 a min for 900 rubber a min

No clue if that's right cuz I'm not home

[reef basin]

you need 300 only

[hard ivy]

lmao that's even worse than all defaults XDD

[limpid cairn]

225 oil NEXT QUESTION!!!

[reef basin]

100 is minimum

[cunning glade]

Well idk how them cuz idk my factory takes about 3 max MK2 pipes

Iirc

[limpid cairn]

Recipes ?

[chrome crypt]

is there a mod or thing i can add a spawn point instead of spawning in the hub, ima making a city build and i wanna spawn in a building

[reef basin]

alternate HOR, diluted (packaged) fuel, recycled rubber + plastic, residual rubber

[cursive phoenix]

Dont you need more? Isnt it 30 per 20 plastic

[cunning glade]

Tools tells me 1350

[cursive phoenix]

Wtf

[reef basin]

did you enable all alts?

[hard ivy]

that's all defaults

[limpid cairn]

Alt recipe

[cunning glade]

They should be unless it changes per tab

[leaden turret]

don't know about that, but if there's no hub you end up spawning at one of the spawn points in the biome

[cursive phoenix]

Wich alt recipe

[cunning glade]

Even tho idk if I have all of them

[limpid cairn]

Recycled plastic and diluted fuel

[reef basin]

^

[cursive phoenix]

Is diluted fuel good? I think i have it avaibke w a hard drive

[limpid cairn]

Will try that when I’m on my pc

[chrome crypt]

that sucks, thanks tho

[limpid cairn]

It’s the best recipe in the game!!!

[cursive phoenix]

Bruh ive just set up my whole oil farm
Fuck me

[reef basin]

any recipe is good if you like it

it's part of most oil efficient way to make fuel

[velvet nimbus]

ok I can'r figure out block signals

[cunning glade]

See but u also need blenders no?

[velvet nimbus]

anyone wanna help me? It's probably the least complex train layout you can build with 2 trains using the same track but I cannot figure out how to do it

[hard ivy]

the packaged version uses refineries and packagers instead. same oil efficiency

[reef basin]

make a thread in #1038092680493801533 , include images, if you have signals, include the segment colors

[limpid cairn]

You can cut out packagers no?

[hard ivy]

not with the packaged version

[reef basin]

not with DPF, only with DF

[limpid cairn]

Nvm I’m a dumbass

I thought the packaged version produces fuel and empty canisters as a byproduct

[real shale]

Aaaa

Oh there's my quadruple A batteries

[cunning siren]

NO more shall a slug or a remain be manually sorted and processed without sloopage! ONE Creature Eater 9000 ™ is all you'll ever need, DM for orders now!!! #screenshots message

[outer hatch]

After a quick jaunt through the modlist - apparently not.

[atomic notch]

Is there no way to just make it one train?

[leaden turret]

what if you built a hypertube connected to where you spawn in the hub, so you automatically poot out the tube when you respawn?

[chrome crypt]

that whould be a cool thing, ill figure that out

[atomic notch]

In my creative world i just put a portal there

[chrome crypt]

i am no where near the portal state yet

[atomic notch]

Oh

Yeh i was gonna add that and say it prolly woulndnt work any way since you wanna move the actual spawn point

[chrome crypt]

ill figure out something, thanks for the suggestions guys

[atomic notch]

Ive actually been wanting something like that for my creative builds too

But at that point i might as well just go build in a different game lol

Ags isnt even a real creative mode tho more just cheat mode

[real shale]

I really like that meme of the different types of satisfactory players

"spaghetti, spaghetti everywhere"

[mortal ginkgo]

guys just to clarify, for 8 coal gen bois, we need 360 water yes?

[white dawn]

Yep; if you look at the coal gen's control panel it'll show you it needs 45/min. (So 45*8 == 360)

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you very much for your knowledge, information and time my dear friend. Hope you stay safe and well watered. 🌊

[white dawn]

Press n for "nalculator" to get an ingame calculator for quick computations like that. :)

[lucid flicker]

hi

[mortal ginkgo]

hi cat on a carpet